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		<title>By: Stephen Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/garybogue/2006/08/29/dont-kill-the-messenger/comment-page-1/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a very large population of deniers in this country.  They like things the way they fantasize that they should be, and get rabid when they are presented with factual evidence to the contrary.

Note the bitter attacks upon Al Gore, who has presented incontrovertible evidence of extensive global warming; or upon scientists, who actually KNOW SOMETHING factually, when they present the enormous evidence for evolution, which contradicts the know-nothings&#039; established prejudices.

The same people who condemn the reporters are the ones who don&#039;t bother to spay and neuter, the ones who discard their animals in the middle of the night, telling themselves that the dumped creatures will very happily live the wild, free life hunting for non-existent game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a very large population of deniers in this country.  They like things the way they fantasize that they should be, and get rabid when they are presented with factual evidence to the contrary.</p>
<p>Note the bitter attacks upon Al Gore, who has presented incontrovertible evidence of extensive global warming; or upon scientists, who actually KNOW SOMETHING factually, when they present the enormous evidence for evolution, which contradicts the know-nothings&#8217; established prejudices.</p>
<p>The same people who condemn the reporters are the ones who don&#8217;t bother to spay and neuter, the ones who discard their animals in the middle of the night, telling themselves that the dumped creatures will very happily live the wild, free life hunting for non-existent game.</p>
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		<title>By: pat in antioch</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/garybogue/2006/08/29/dont-kill-the-messenger/comment-page-1/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>pat in antioch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Mike...forget about spaying the tarantula.....but I would have LOVED to see you hugging her!!  :-)

Pat]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike&#8230;forget about spaying the tarantula&#8230;..but I would have LOVED to see you hugging her!!  <img src='http://www.ibabuzz.com/garybogue/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Pat</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/garybogue/2006/08/29/dont-kill-the-messenger/comment-page-1/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we could spay and neuter everyone&#039;s companion animals and the stray and feral cat population, it would make a huge impact.  But many people think of animals as discardable, as though they were inanimate objects.  And these discarded animals will still end up at the shelter regardless of the number animals that are spayed and neutered.  To end the problem, people need to realize the value of each of these precious lives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we could spay and neuter everyone&#8217;s companion animals and the stray and feral cat population, it would make a huge impact.  But many people think of animals as discardable, as though they were inanimate objects.  And these discarded animals will still end up at the shelter regardless of the number animals that are spayed and neutered.  To end the problem, people need to realize the value of each of these precious lives.</p>
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		<title>By: John Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link. Actually, we got about equal numbers of pro and con responses to our story. The value, if nothing else, was in getting people to talk about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link. Actually, we got about equal numbers of pro and con responses to our story. The value, if nothing else, was in getting people to talk about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t count the number of times I have argued with people about breeding their &quot;purebred&quot; dog so they can sell puppies.  I am very passionate about educating these folks about all the poor pups in the shelters who need homes, and how the community does not need yet another litter of puppies just because they happened to be pure boxer/shephard/rottie or whatever.  I have had many different breeds of dogs over the years, but my mixed breed german shephard/border collie/german shorthair pointer is the best pet one could hope for. (And handsome, too)  I encourage anyone looking for a pet to start at the local shelter, where they will most likely find a best friend - and save a life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t count the number of times I have argued with people about breeding their &#8220;purebred&#8221; dog so they can sell puppies.  I am very passionate about educating these folks about all the poor pups in the shelters who need homes, and how the community does not need yet another litter of puppies just because they happened to be pure boxer/shephard/rottie or whatever.  I have had many different breeds of dogs over the years, but my mixed breed german shephard/border collie/german shorthair pointer is the best pet one could hope for. (And handsome, too)  I encourage anyone looking for a pet to start at the local shelter, where they will most likely find a best friend &#8211; and save a life.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike "troll" Dame</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/garybogue/2006/08/29/dont-kill-the-messenger/comment-page-1/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike "troll" Dame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey Pat i just hugged my pets but i dont think you can spay a tarantula:)

anyways discount and free spaying neutering is great but it doesnt work well if people dont know about it. over the years we have told many clueless pet owners about thiese services and im allways amazed they had never heard of such things, specially when they are obviously concerned about over population problems. i dunno maybe its because they were mainly low income people or maybe its just because they dont have the brains to think about checking into this sort of thing but if you ask me the word doesnt get out well enough to the masses]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Pat i just hugged my pets but i dont think you can spay a tarantula:)</p>
<p>anyways discount and free spaying neutering is great but it doesnt work well if people dont know about it. over the years we have told many clueless pet owners about thiese services and im allways amazed they had never heard of such things, specially when they are obviously concerned about over population problems. i dunno maybe its because they were mainly low income people or maybe its just because they dont have the brains to think about checking into this sort of thing but if you ask me the word doesnt get out well enough to the masses</p>
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		<title>By: Pat in Antioch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat in Antioch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I once worked at a vet where (as with all vets) animals were euthanized out of love, for medical reasons.  I assisted at more than a few of these, and it never got easier.  I always treated the pet and the owners with all the love &amp; respect I could muster, and I admit to shedding more than a few tears.  Looking into those trusting eyes was heart wrenching even when we knew it was for the best.

Could I be part this same thing done at shelters just because an animals time has run out?  An animal whose owner didn&#039;t care to offer even the most basic care?  NO WAY!!
I have no doubt that some of these shelter workers offer a loving touch in the final moments of a animals life; I&#039;ve even known some to cry at the end of a day only to have to get up &amp; do it all again the next day.  Is it their fault?  NO!!  It&#039;s the fault of the irresponsible owner who didn&#039;t spay or neuter.

There are organizations that will help or pay for spays &amp; neuters-you just have to look for them, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s up to the city&#039;s to take responsibility for it.  Sadly, there are still people who wouldn&#039;t take advantage of it.

To print basically the same story 17 years later, makes a sad statement-we haven&#039;t learned anything and those animals who give their constant love &amp; devotion are the ones who pay the price.  Shooting the messenger isn&#039;t the answer---LISTENING to the messenger and LEARNING from him is.

Go hug your pets, and then, if they&#039;re not spayed or neutered, DO IT!!!!

Pat in Antioch]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once worked at a vet where (as with all vets) animals were euthanized out of love, for medical reasons.  I assisted at more than a few of these, and it never got easier.  I always treated the pet and the owners with all the love &#038; respect I could muster, and I admit to shedding more than a few tears.  Looking into those trusting eyes was heart wrenching even when we knew it was for the best.</p>
<p>Could I be part this same thing done at shelters just because an animals time has run out?  An animal whose owner didn&#8217;t care to offer even the most basic care?  NO WAY!!<br />
I have no doubt that some of these shelter workers offer a loving touch in the final moments of a animals life; I&#8217;ve even known some to cry at the end of a day only to have to get up &#038; do it all again the next day.  Is it their fault?  NO!!  It&#8217;s the fault of the irresponsible owner who didn&#8217;t spay or neuter.</p>
<p>There are organizations that will help or pay for spays &#038; neuters-you just have to look for them, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s up to the city&#8217;s to take responsibility for it.  Sadly, there are still people who wouldn&#8217;t take advantage of it.</p>
<p>To print basically the same story 17 years later, makes a sad statement-we haven&#8217;t learned anything and those animals who give their constant love &#038; devotion are the ones who pay the price.  Shooting the messenger isn&#8217;t the answer&#8212;LISTENING to the messenger and LEARNING from him is.</p>
<p>Go hug your pets, and then, if they&#8217;re not spayed or neutered, DO IT!!!!</p>
<p>Pat in Antioch</p>
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		<title>By: Cassie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why doesn&#039;t everyone get this upset about babies being aborted?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#8217;t everyone get this upset about babies being aborted?</p>
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		<title>By: GG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If EVERYONE spayed and neutered their pets, we wouldn’t have all these surplus animals to be killed.&quot;

... AND if everyone in the community made it a priority to make sure free spaying and neutering, paid for by the city, was available, and worked to make sure their elected officials were funneling plenty of money into public shelters so that animals could be kept alive longer and could be displayed for adoption at more outreach sites, and so the shelters could keep their doors open longer and on weekends so they are accessible to more potential adopters.

This problem is everyone&#039;s problem, and everyone needs to take responsibility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If EVERYONE spayed and neutered their pets, we wouldn’t have all these surplus animals to be killed.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; AND if everyone in the community made it a priority to make sure free spaying and neutering, paid for by the city, was available, and worked to make sure their elected officials were funneling plenty of money into public shelters so that animals could be kept alive longer and could be displayed for adoption at more outreach sites, and so the shelters could keep their doors open longer and on weekends so they are accessible to more potential adopters.</p>
<p>This problem is everyone&#8217;s problem, and everyone needs to take responsibility.</p>
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