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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s time to BAN lead bullets throughout California &amp; the U.S.</title>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 22:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t embrace this lead ban.  The lead ban for hunting is based on Junk Science. All it takes to forward the liberal agenda is Junk Science.  This baloney with the environmentalists, along with the outrageous DMV fees, Illegal Immigration, extreme cost of building permits, required teaching of acceptance of homosexuals to our children, taxes out the ying-yang,  75 Billion dollar debt, stupid gun laws like the 50 BMG ban, so on and so on is why people are leaving California in droves.  Businesses are leaving in droves, (mine just left for Colorado).  When we have all left this once great state to you Loons, don&#039;t come looking to us to bail you out.  You can live in the misery you are creating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t embrace this lead ban.  The lead ban for hunting is based on Junk Science. All it takes to forward the liberal agenda is Junk Science.  This baloney with the environmentalists, along with the outrageous DMV fees, Illegal Immigration, extreme cost of building permits, required teaching of acceptance of homosexuals to our children, taxes out the ying-yang,  75 Billion dollar debt, stupid gun laws like the 50 BMG ban, so on and so on is why people are leaving California in droves.  Businesses are leaving in droves, (mine just left for Colorado).  When we have all left this once great state to you Loons, don&#8217;t come looking to us to bail you out.  You can live in the misery you are creating.</p>
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		<title>By: Scota4570</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scota4570</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 02:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Lead poisoning from ingesting lead fragments in carcasses has been the leading cause of death for reintroduced condors in California and Arizona.&quot;

Then how come, even with the ban in place for some time, they keep getting lead poisoning?  Amazing!  Could it be the whole thing is a farce.  Could it be that they are stupid birds that eat garbage and bits of metal.  Could it be that the enviornmental zealots poisoned condors on purpose to maintain funding?  I would not put it past them to do so.

I am tired of making &quot;reasonable&quot; consessions to the leftists and marxists.  The enviornmental movement is a thinly veiled way to get ignorant people to accept world socialism.  The whole lead thing is a way to make hunting less appealing and thin the ranks.  Couple these stupid laws with restricting public access to hunting and fishing and you get population of sheeple that have forgotten about the outdoors. That makes them less independant and more likley to go with the program.  

Lead is not as toxic as it is made out to be.  Look it up!  The original studies that started the ball rooling on the anti lead bandwagon were misrepresented.  The safe levels were cut by orders of magnitude in leglislation that was drafted based on moving a decimal point and not understanding the science  Look it up!!

Have you personally known anyone who got sick from lead?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lead poisoning from ingesting lead fragments in carcasses has been the leading cause of death for reintroduced condors in California and Arizona.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then how come, even with the ban in place for some time, they keep getting lead poisoning?  Amazing!  Could it be the whole thing is a farce.  Could it be that they are stupid birds that eat garbage and bits of metal.  Could it be that the enviornmental zealots poisoned condors on purpose to maintain funding?  I would not put it past them to do so.</p>
<p>I am tired of making &#8220;reasonable&#8221; consessions to the leftists and marxists.  The enviornmental movement is a thinly veiled way to get ignorant people to accept world socialism.  The whole lead thing is a way to make hunting less appealing and thin the ranks.  Couple these stupid laws with restricting public access to hunting and fishing and you get population of sheeple that have forgotten about the outdoors. That makes them less independant and more likley to go with the program.  </p>
<p>Lead is not as toxic as it is made out to be.  Look it up!  The original studies that started the ball rooling on the anti lead bandwagon were misrepresented.  The safe levels were cut by orders of magnitude in leglislation that was drafted based on moving a decimal point and not understanding the science  Look it up!!</p>
<p>Have you personally known anyone who got sick from lead?</p>
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		<title>By: edgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 02:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[good idea:lets embrace the lead ammo ban then AFTER they ban it use the non lead ammo shoot all but two condors and leave the samn hippies guessing wtf happened!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good idea:lets embrace the lead ammo ban then AFTER they ban it use the non lead ammo shoot all but two condors and leave the samn hippies guessing wtf happened!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m talking about hunting mule deer and especially elk in Colorado that are alot larger than the deer in Califorina. People this lead bullet talk in nothing but a bunch of lies and propaganda to try and hurt hunting in this country. These people that are making these claims about lead core bullets know that most people will buy into there lies because they don&#039;t know any different. In my world going to court and lie under outh is committing purgerey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m talking about hunting mule deer and especially elk in Colorado that are alot larger than the deer in Califorina. People this lead bullet talk in nothing but a bunch of lies and propaganda to try and hurt hunting in this country. These people that are making these claims about lead core bullets know that most people will buy into there lies because they don&#8217;t know any different. In my world going to court and lie under outh is committing purgerey.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 16:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I to have been hunting now for a little over 50 years, and eating wild game.all my life. It&#039;s true that a bullet nearly allways passes through an animal, if not it usally just under the hide on the off side of the animal. I&#039;ve got small box full of bullets that I have recovered from game shot with lead core bullets, same thing with a muzzle loader with lead slugs or round balls. I have got to agree that this is just another anti-hunting attack. One more lets go and get our blood checked for lead, I know I&#039;m good I&#039;ve talked with my doctor abuot this one I&#039;m good how about you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I to have been hunting now for a little over 50 years, and eating wild game.all my life. It&#8217;s true that a bullet nearly allways passes through an animal, if not it usally just under the hide on the off side of the animal. I&#8217;ve got small box full of bullets that I have recovered from game shot with lead core bullets, same thing with a muzzle loader with lead slugs or round balls. I have got to agree that this is just another anti-hunting attack. One more lets go and get our blood checked for lead, I know I&#8217;m good I&#8217;ve talked with my doctor abuot this one I&#8217;m good how about you?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellen, Lead is not banned in Texas. There is a federal ban on lead shot used for water fowl in shotguns, this was enacted years ago. Lead bullets are legal in Texas. Get your facts straight comrade and stay in California; we don’t need your kind around here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen, Lead is not banned in Texas. There is a federal ban on lead shot used for water fowl in shotguns, this was enacted years ago. Lead bullets are legal in Texas. Get your facts straight comrade and stay in California; we don’t need your kind around here.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The same corrupt &quot;research&quot; that was done to trump up &quot;global warming&quot; was used to get this &quot;lead ban&quot; passed.
Ironic how after a dozen years of &quot;research&quot; they banned lead in the condor zone, and then one year later claimed research proved the lead ban to be effective and tried to ban lead in the whole state. You boiled the frog too quick, and now your agenda is obvious.
This hair-brained scheme to make the projectiles of the guns you hate so much created the necessity of the invention of lead free bullets. Now if your lies about condors hurt by eating gut-piles filled with lead fool the ignorant sheep and pass into statewide law, we will simply use the lead free ammo and continue to hunt the animals you love so much, YUM YUM..
Also hunters bullets are designed to &quot;pass through&quot; the animals so that they die quickly. The bullets, no matter what they are made of, don&#039;t end up in the gut piles that the condors eat.........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same corrupt &#8220;research&#8221; that was done to trump up &#8220;global warming&#8221; was used to get this &#8220;lead ban&#8221; passed.<br />
Ironic how after a dozen years of &#8220;research&#8221; they banned lead in the condor zone, and then one year later claimed research proved the lead ban to be effective and tried to ban lead in the whole state. You boiled the frog too quick, and now your agenda is obvious.<br />
This hair-brained scheme to make the projectiles of the guns you hate so much created the necessity of the invention of lead free bullets. Now if your lies about condors hurt by eating gut-piles filled with lead fool the ignorant sheep and pass into statewide law, we will simply use the lead free ammo and continue to hunt the animals you love so much, YUM YUM..<br />
Also hunters bullets are designed to &#8220;pass through&#8221; the animals so that they die quickly. The bullets, no matter what they are made of, don&#8217;t end up in the gut piles that the condors eat&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bcten22</title>
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		<dc:creator>bcten22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 22:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If hunters all did their part by shooting condors on the spot in an attempt to eradicate them all, this B.S. lead ban will go extinct with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If hunters all did their part by shooting condors on the spot in an attempt to eradicate them all, this B.S. lead ban will go extinct with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Clinton administration&#039;s EPA looked into the issue and found no cause for concern. The claim that &quot;lead based ammunition is hazardous is in error,&quot; EPA senior science adviser William Marcus wrote in a Dec. 25, 1999, letter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Clinton administration&#8217;s EPA looked into the issue and found no cause for concern. The claim that &#8220;lead based ammunition is hazardous is in error,&#8221; EPA senior science adviser William Marcus wrote in a Dec. 25, 1999, letter.</p>
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		<title>By: Cary McDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cary McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, &#039;getting the lead out&#039; is important for the water fowl, fish etc. primarily as it is used IN SHOT GUNS. Don&#039;t me misled in thinking that non-lead bullets do not injure, pre-maturely age rifle and pistol barrels that are not smooth bore. Copper is a weak substitute for lead in this regard. Gun manufacturer&#039;s support it (they sell more guns), as does do the &#039;get the gun&#039;s out&#039; lobbies which feel better about hobbling anything to do with guns. 
  Lead bullets and lead shot are NOT even close to being the limiting factor regarding Condors and other large birds. HIGH VOLTAGE POWER LINES, that EASILY electrocute birds with large wing spans are the culprit (good luck in taking THAT issue on)... as are wind turbines on migratory fly-ways. I&#039;ve seen Ravens turned to crispy critters by power lines, which are much much smaller than Condors. But hey, &#039;Save the Condors, Lose (ruin) the Guns&#039; has a nice wholesome (simple minded) ring to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, &#8216;getting the lead out&#8217; is important for the water fowl, fish etc. primarily as it is used IN SHOT GUNS. Don&#8217;t me misled in thinking that non-lead bullets do not injure, pre-maturely age rifle and pistol barrels that are not smooth bore. Copper is a weak substitute for lead in this regard. Gun manufacturer&#8217;s support it (they sell more guns), as does do the &#8216;get the gun&#8217;s out&#8217; lobbies which feel better about hobbling anything to do with guns.<br />
  Lead bullets and lead shot are NOT even close to being the limiting factor regarding Condors and other large birds. HIGH VOLTAGE POWER LINES, that EASILY electrocute birds with large wing spans are the culprit (good luck in taking THAT issue on)&#8230; as are wind turbines on migratory fly-ways. I&#8217;ve seen Ravens turned to crispy critters by power lines, which are much much smaller than Condors. But hey, &#8216;Save the Condors, Lose (ruin) the Guns&#8217; has a nice wholesome (simple minded) ring to it.</p>
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