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Blue-collar Hayward

By pbekesy
Thursday, April 12th, 2007 at 10:40 am in General.

When the superintendent was quoted last week on KPIX describing Hayward as a “blue-collar school district,” it set off a round of debate here over what that means.

Last week a HayWord commenter wrote: “He said that we are a blue collar town. What does that mean, exactly? The tone of this comment, which aired on the local news, was one of elitism and arrogance.”

So what does it mean? Is it derogatory, factual, neutral? And does it matter? In my few years working here, I’ve heard some politicians take pains to say Hayward is not just a blue-collar town anymore and others who do the exact opposite.

I’ll be writing about this (blue collardom, not Vigil’s specific sound byte) and hope to hear your comments or suggestions. You can call me today or Friday at (510) 293-2473.

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  • 9 year HUSD teacher

    The term “blue-collar” is not derogatory or offensive in and of itself. The way Dr. Vigil used it was quite offensive. The implication was that Hayward teachers do not deserve the same salary increases as Pleasanton BECAUSE we are blue-collar. Our test scores are being compared to Pleasanton’s test scores, why shouldn’t our salaries be comparable? This question has been posed by many Hayward teachers since the comment was made. Dr. Vigil is pulling in a salary that is 15.9% higher than the salary of the Pleasanton superintendent. His logic seems flawed.

  • another angry parent

    Vigil’s comment makes no sense. All schools receive the same amount of money now despite surrounding home value, and despite residents’ occupation. Hello, Prop. 13. Actually, doesn’t Hayward have more English Language Learners and low income students, thus receiving more Title I and other funds for ESL’s, therefore HUSD would have more money than Pleasanton. Shouldn’t the teachers here have higher salaries than Pleasanton since they actually deal with a wider variety of issues than the teachers there do? Just asking. And no, “blue collar” in and of itself is not offensive, but the way Vigil used it is. He is the worst kind of “carpet bagger”. Now to find out that he RENTS a place in Hayward and that his family doesn’t even LIVE here makes it all worse. Hayward isn’t good enough for his family to live here, and attend school?! Someone please tell me, why did the school board hire this man? Why does the district keep getting robbed by these out of town fast talkers who have no committment to Hayward?

  • J. W. Kyle

    Blue “collar” occupations, in the ‘good old days’ was used to describe occupations
    which were superior then and now to opportunity for gainful employment in banks,
    insurance or newspapers frequently thought of as ‘white collar’ jobs.

    As an example, men (at that time only they were described as blue collar types,) who were employed as as skilled machinests, capable of machine tool use in manufacture of
    precision instruments, as examples, in medical or photographic use, tooled forged metal
    parts down to tolerances of 5/1,000 ths of an inch, or even finer, could not do so when faced with need for use of machine oil as coolant in metal work.

    There were many opportunities for employment as ‘blue collar’ workers. whose annual
    remuneration, then as now, were well in excess of salaries in the white collar category.
    Teachers were often described in the white collar category, since in those days, white chalk dust and ubruly students were their only clothing hazard.

    Unfortunately, a great number of jobs once sought after for their higher than typical sal;aries, have been shipped overseas. So ‘blue collar’ might easily be seen as derogatory by
    types such as Dr. Vigil, the guy with the manicured nails, fresh white shirt, fashionable
    tie, well oiled hair and ‘attitude.’

    Now we see blue shirts worn, and hopefully continued to be worn by those who do not qualify to teach in communities where the turnout on election day is so low, that we elect folks who choose to hire ‘the slick talkers’ who seem able to bamboozle big salaries when dealing with Hayward Board of Trustees unable to demand results in return for unwarranted pay.

    Until we see infusion of knowledgeable voters in Hayward, we will continue to earn the
    smirk of thoes ‘living out of town’.

  • 16 year HUSD teacher & former student

    Once again Dr. Vigil proved that just because you have a doctrate degree doesn’t mean you have a brain! Anyone who was at the Dec. 22nd inservice @ Hayward High should not be surprised by Vigil comment or lack of respect towards the teachers and the union. Unfortunately he’s a retread (dismissed from two previous districts) and our board once again screwed up in the higher process when it came to hiring a superintendent. Remember the wicked witch from Florida and her flying monkeys? Those losers are still getting paid, big money I must remind you. I don’t see any spokesperson from the district bring up that fact when they state they don’t have the money to pay us a proper raise.
    We’re not talking about the town of Hayward being “blue collar.” The subject should be the teachers. And the last time I checked we were “professionals.” Many of us with Masters degrees. Wouldn’t that make us “white collar?”
    Come to think of it, I’m glad Vigil isn’t a homeowner in Hayward. We have enough “trash” to bring our property values down. He won’t be around very long. I was here before him and I plan on staying here after him. Don’t let the door hit you in the brain on your way out, Vigil!!

  • SMBinford

    Vigil’s comments, much like HUSD’s salary negotiations, denigrates both students and their teachers. As a teacher, I am quite offended by his assumption that teachers in a “blue collar town” somehow deserve less. If indeed, Hayward is a “blue collar town”, don’t the students deserve the best teachers they can get to help them build better a better future? What HUSD fails to recognize is that teachers help shape the future in how we teach the children.

    Teachers are merely asking for a wage that will allow us to remain in Hayward, rather than be forced to seek jobs in other districts that pay us more. Most of us love what we do, we love our kids, and we want to stay here. But we have to be able to pay our bills, too. We’ve gotten quite a bit of education to do the job we do, and we deserve fair compensation. Our students deserve the best teachers they can get, and that means that HUSD needs to pay salaries that will attract and retain the highest quality teachers. Somehow, HUSD wants to paint us as greedy or concerned only for ourselves – not true! We’re not asking for anything outrageous. Our medical costs have gone up over 400% in the past 5 years, and during that time, we haven’t even gotten cost of living increases. Now, come on, HUSD – fair is fair!

    I’m glad that members of our community are so supportive. It’s just too bad that the School Board doesn’t value us. But the, they are ELECTED officials and things can change…

  • http://www.MarkWelch.com/ Mark Welch

    Mr. Peterson: In your letter to the newspaper (http://www.insidebayarea.com/argus/oped/ci_5667795), you wrote:

    “Once again, the HEA leadership is cooking with HEA-math, and this time your HUSD Board of Education is not buying it. The time has come for the HEA leadership to stop peddling their smoke, mirrors and snake oil. It is not the Board of Education that is the problem here.”

    I am astonished at your blatant effort to dump all blame on the union leadership (and specifically Ms. Crummey) for the impasse. You insult the intelligence of the community with your absurd claim that HEA, and not HUSD, is engaged in financial “smoke and mirrors.”

    I sat through the bizarre “financial update” during the March 14 board meeting, which the district (in its more recent offers) now concedes was nothing but smoke and mirrors — a “sham” presentation intended solely to mislead the community. That “show” added fuel to the teachers’ growing distrust of HUSD’s financial claims. (Even the county superintendent acknowledged in a recent interview that she could not understand the district’s smoke-and-mirrors bookkeeping.)

    For you to turn around and blame the union, for the distrust that arose from Dr. Vigil’s and Mr. Schimmel’s lies and disrespect, is an insult to the entire community. You are paying a premium to administrators whose disrespect and dishonesty are costing HUSD millions of dollars; employees will only work for a dishonest, disrespectful employer if a premium salary is paid.

    The Hayward Unified School district has consistently taken direct and deliberate steps to encourage a strike, and to build and maintain a relationship of distrust and disrespect would continue between HUSD and its community partners (teachers, parents, students, and taxpayers/voters). Since you acknowledge that the Board has met nightly to advise the administration, I must now place the blame for this distrust and disrespect on your shoulders, since you have sat by and allowed Dr. Vigil and Mr. Schimmel to continue to insult teachers with their lies and disrespect.

    While I remain hopeful that a financial settlement will be reached between HUSD and HEA this year, it seems clear to me that the district’s latest offers, even if accepted, are designed deliberately to encourage further financial manipulation over the next 18 months, which nearly guarantees that the next contract negotiation with HEA will be even less pleasant.

    And even if the district somehow pulled a rabbit out of its hat and granted teachers every penny they’ve requested, the distrust and disrespect will remain — long after Dr. Vigil and Mr. Schimmel have followed their predecessors away from Hayward, and probably long after all five current board members are replaced. More good teachers will leave Hayward; more parents (like my wife and I) will accept the board’s message and move their children away from Hayward’s schools; and taxpayers will continue to laugh (with justifiable contempt) at the suggestion that HUSD issue bonds to repair and upgrade its decaying schools.

    I do not question the district’s need to remain financially responsible and solvent — yet I can’t trust the district’s claims about its financial condition. But the district’s is not moving toward financial solvency if it continues its persistent strategy of insulting, deceiving, and disrespecting teachers.

    Your letter, Mr. Peterson, is an insult that further demonstrates HUSD’s disrespect toward its community. You should apologize, and you should work diligently to improve, not worsen, the relationships within the Hayward educational community.

  • another tired teacher

    Mr. Peterson is not taking responsibility for the fact that he was on the school board already when the district was in financial chaos and when the previous Superintendent Joan Kowal was hired. What is he talking about? He is not a new member, and neither are Truehill,
    Frumkin! Cook is the devil in disguise as far as I am concerned. Gonzalez has not stood up for one thing. And Peterson makes no mention of tha fact that the teachers have gone without a cost of living increase for at least 5 years while they cried poor so that the district could get their finances in order, as we watched while other district employees have received SUBSTANTIAL raises including sustitute teachers at $25 more a day! Not to mention all the administrators and their now infamous 16.84% increase to an already huge salary. And Vigil and Schimmel are no master money wizards! The fact is, the district received cost of living increases for the teachers and they withheld them from us! Are these people retarded or what? It does not take rocket scientists to figure this stuff out! I cannot believe Hayward elected these people. I left Oakland Unified for this madness? With 100% health benefits paid for you and your dependents Oakland Unified is looking really good right now! I NEVER thought I would say that. People of Hayward, PLEASE DEMAND THAT THE BOOKS BE OPENED AND THAT THE DISTRICT BE REASONABLE AND HONEST ABOUT THEIR FINANCES. They HID MONEY from the “fact finder” and they have not given teachers the cost of living allowance that the state allocated to teachers. Maybe a state take over would be better than these nincompoops bumbling around with their thumbs up their bums. Vigil doesn’t care anyway. He is outta here as soon as his contract is up.

  • Shannon Moon, Hayward High 9 Year Veteran

    Dale’s “blue collar” comment smacks of the classism I spent the first 8 years of my schooling being subjected to. In my small town, there was only one high school, two junior highs, and four elementary schools. Students were tracked based upon the kind of work their parents did–white collar students in the upper track, blue collar students in the lower. These lines were never crossed, never bent, never blurred. The insidious implication of Dale’s comment, that our students are not white collar enough to deserve a high-class education, that our teachers are not white collar enough to deserve a professional wage for their work, reflects a deep seated classist mentality on his part. This mentality will ensure that HUSD continues to operate in such as way as to provide substandard support for teachers who are trying, against the odds the district has so diligently stacked against us, to provide a high-class education for Hayward’s children. This district has dealt, albeit superficially, with discrimination based on race, gender, and sexual orientation–when will it address the deeply prejudiced and discriminatory attitudes that Dale’s blue collar comment reveals?

  • PH

    I haven’t heard the term “blue-”, “white-”, or “pink-”collar in a long time. One can no longer define people or neighborhoods by these categories, especially in the Bay Area, where housing, education and living costs make them irrelevant. So does the fact that electricians, plumbers, machinists, and other “blue-collar” workers get paid more than teachers or librarians. Maybe DV was trying to pay them a compliment….(not)!

  • http://SCHOOLS carol

    TO THE PARENTS OF HAYWARD UNIFIED TEACHERS STRIKE: (FROM ONE PARENT TO
    ANOTHER)

    I understand that we all share emotions on what is currently taking place with our
    children’s education. I too would like to get annual pay raises to accommodate the cost
    of living that we all are faced with living in one of the highest cost of living areas in the
    U.S. But, I too worry about the things that my kids have learned. Not only in the
    classroom, but with the friends they keep and the street smart tactics that take place
    even without the teachers walking the line.

    But, supporting our teachers by keeping your children at home or permitting them to
    “WALK THE LINE” with their teacher is doing the opposite of what I have tried to teach
    my own children over the past years.

    As parents, we try:
    · to teach them to respect others
    · obey their elders
    · do your homework
    · stay out of trouble
    · look both ways to cross the street
    · don’t cause damage to other people’s property
    · don’t LIE, steal, do drugs or drink
    · work hard to get good grades
    · and graduate to get a better job

    As parents, keeping our children out of school is doing what?
    · Preventing our children from receiving an education that they will need.
    · Supporting teachers that have caused property damage to employee’s
    vehicles, or personal belongings just because they have reported to work to support
    the children in our community to give them the education they need.

    Activism is a good trait to teach our kids, but at what cost?

    Many teachers have joined the picket line, which is their right. What they are doing is
    not right. Have you asked yourself whether you have been given all the facts before emotionally keeping your children out of school? Has the union disclosed the fight they
    truly are fighting? Yes it is true that some teachers are making $47,000 to $70,000.
    But ask the teachers: Is this their total pay? Or is it the base pay? Teachers in
    Hayward have incentive pay added. Several of teachers with the minimal pay of
    $47,000 are actually paid in excess of $60,000 with “incentives” added. How many of
    you that are supporting your teacher can say that you make $5000 a month? Majority
    of you are working for minimum wage or slightly higher. Are you not? I know for a
    fact that several teachers claiming to make $70,000 after 20+ years in the district are
    actually making over $110,000 with “incentive pay” added. Don’t get me wrong; I too
    want to support my children’s teachers. But not by keeping mine from attending school
    when I know that their teachers should be in the classroom. Not when I know that the
    union is playing on sympathy from the community by feeding them partial information
    to get further support. Not when I know that teachers have caused numerous problems
    that have involved the police to be called and having their own union president say that
    it is not the issue since the police have not arrested anyone. I asked a union official
    about the problems caused by the teachers during the strike. Their comment was that
    for every report made against a teacher on the strike line, the union would get a dozen
    people to say that it did not take place. So again, we are supporting the teacher’s —
    WHY??? To teach our children it is ok to lie when in their best interest? Are these
    teachers going to stand by your child when they go in front of administrators for a
    suspension or possible expulsion? Especially if they are being processed for an action
    that they learned was appropriate behavior on the strike line? I think not.

    So again, have teachers been up front with facts…? As a parent, I know they have not.
    Police have responded to many reports of our striking teachers causing problems in
    our community. They have shoved substitute teachers reporting for work to teach the
    students that our own teachers walked out on. They have encouraged students
    supporting them to place food items in tailpipes of school employee’s reporting to work. Employee’s vehicles are being damaged. Parent’s vehicles are being damaged. They
    have refused to remain civil throughout the strike. Civil? Maybe civil disorder! Our
    teachers have taken on the position that they can do what they wish, when they want to. They have blocked traffic. They have stepped out in front of moving vehicles that have not
    honked their horns to support the strikers. Our children are watching. Just because
    they are on the line, their ethics are out the window? So what are they teaching our
    children? Once the strike is over, these are the same teachers that will be putting your
    own child on report and recommending that they be suspended for shoving a fellow
    student. The very thing that their teacher showed was ok to do while participating in a
    strike. This is what you are keeping your students out of school for? Since when, do
    teachers feel, they are above the law and get away with it simply because of a strike?

    I ask that you support your child’s teacher some other way. Participate in fundraisers,
    school trips, evening events, school programs or volunteer to provide hands on in your
    child’s school. Do not give in to the support that teachers are asking at this time. Send
    your child back to school. Show the teachers that they need to stop behaving in a way
    that will demonstrate bad behavior to your child. Tell them that what they are teaching
    the students outside of the classroom is not acceptable behavior. If they wish to
    continue behaving in this manner, tell them to go to a district that will accept the way
    they act over the way they teach. Tell them to get back to work and stop acting like
    the age of students they teach. And to practice what they teach. How much longer are
    you willing to support someone that is actually making $60,000-$120,000? At what cost
    are we willing to continue supporting our teachers? Are we willing to put our district
    back in a financial crisis that student programs will be cut to put a 16% raise in your
    teachers bank account? Paying two employees the 16% to retain consistency and
    avoidance of management turnovers once again equates to approximately $75,000
    annually. Paying 1,300 teachers 16% equated to over $15 million. It is not as if the
    district is saying that your teacher is getting 0% pay raise. The district has more than
    doubled their offer to bring this to an end. What ever happened to meeting half way…? Hayward teachers… please go back to work and stop teaching my own kids that your
    actions are acceptable. Teach them what you are doing was not your intention. You
    are willing to work through things while doing the job that you love to do. For my kids,
    they will continue to receive an education by those that show they care. Teaching a
    classroom full of students is a stronger message than disorder on the streets of
    Hayward.

  • Fernando Hernandez

    I would like to comment on Carol’s posting:

    Yes, some teachers do get incentive pay added to their base salary, but this is for additional work performed, this is NOT free money.

    I know my wife, who teaches for the district, has in the past offered special after school programs, she has taught summer school, or performed other tasks that are not part of her regular teaching duties. These programs are performed IN ADDITION to her regular teaching and prep time.

    I know many parents have appreciated these programs and the benefit their children get for the added schooling and special programs. We should be thankfull that there are some teachers willing to step up tp the plate and provide these additional programs for the benefit of our students We should not demonize them for being proactive and willing to give up their family time to provide these services.

    I agree the district has more than doubled their offer, but this is only because they started with an insulting and unrealistic offer, given how little past pay raises have been and how much more expensive it is to live in the bay area.

    The distrcit has received over 20% Cost Of Living Allowance over the past few (5?) years, buy most of this money has not been passed on to the district’s employees. Where is the COLA money going? The distrcit received this monies and then chose to direct them elsewhere. Well, the cost of living affects everyone, and for the district to simply redirect this money who knows where, might not be illegal, but it is certainly immoral.

    I know the strike is hard on everyone. We are hurting, believe me! The teachcers also have morgages to pay, and children to feed.

    The HUSD and HEA have been trying to figure this out for many months, and I just don’t see how going back to work is going to furter the negotioations. After all, they were working up to 4 working days ago, and we were getting nowhere.

    I’m beginning to wonder how much money is the district making while the strike goes on? After all, it is much cheaper to hire 150 subs. than to get all the teachers back to work. It is my understaning (and I could be wrong, somebody correct me if this is the case!) that the money the district receives from the state for student attendance is actually based on the everage of a few days, rather than the actual daily attendace count. If this is the case, maybe the district will make enough money from the strike to give the top administrators yet another “merit” pay raise.

    I found Mr. Vigil’s second attempt at putting all the blame for the current situation on HEA offensive. Mr. Vigil’s and Mr. Schimmel’s slash and burn adminstartive style is certainly a part of the problem. We got a glimpse, through Mr. Schimmel’s “private” communication with Mr. Vigil, of their true attitude towards their employees.

    I believe their 17% “merit” pay raise should be taken away. As a Hayward tax payer, I believe it was undeserved.

  • PH

    I’m keeping my child out of school, mainly because I sent her to school the first day and after she told me what kind of “work” they did, I decided she would learn more in day care (which she goes to in the afternoons anyway). I also decided not to send her to school because she’s only 5 years old, bright and observant, and I don’t think she should be subjected to the difficulties, let alone the conflicts, that arise during this kind of situation.

    I know not everyone has my choices, and I feel blessed to have them. But whether I support teachers or not, my child’s well-being is my #1 job here. I’ll bring her back after the dust has settled.

  • Gary Duran

    Dear Carol,
    I am a teacher at Mt. Eden High School and I will honestly let you know my incentive pay as you put it. I coach football and get 800.00 dollars for this. That requires an additional 2 hours everyday plus time at home preparing. I coach Badminton with 85 student-athletes and get paid 900.00 ( I split the stipend with my assistant coach). I again put in 10+ hours a week. I am the athletic director and get a stipend or 1527.00 and an extra prep. The AD job, is really a full time job in and of itself. I have to keep track of 18 sports, 23 teams, 400-500 studdent-athletes. I coordiante busing, schedules, field prep and maintainance, student grades, student residential eligilibility, 20 budgets, protective equipemnt, officials, and overseeing and evaluating the coaches an Mt. Eden. I have to pay roughly (1500.00 a month in health and dental care for my family of 5). I help with campus security during lunch, often spending my time watching potential trouble spots, and when things go I respnd to aid our security staff (along with 5-7 other teachers). I have had my clothes torn, been hit, twisted my knee, strained my back, and have had to trhow away my clothes when they got covered in blood —all of which I never get paid for. I do all this because I love my school and my students! I haven’t even mentioned the homework I have during the night. I worked in the private sector for 10 years before becoming a teacher and can say that teaching is not as easy as many people think. I understand you have a right to send your child to school, it is your right, but I would challenge if real teaching is going on. At Mt.Eden the past four days the students who have shown up (20-60/per day) have been place in the gym and given a magazine, article or newspaper to read and toald to read it and write a paper on what they read. They are not get science, math, art, foreign language…etc. As a fellow parent, I support any decision you make on your childs behalf. As a teacher I would hope parents would start asking our district hard questions about why are the bathrooms at most of our schools are shameful, and why do teachers budgets stay the same for 7 years, although cost of living goes up and the district gets the COLA from the state. I know the strike has been hard on the families of Hayward, because I live in Hayward, but I am afraid that if the distrcit is not held accountable to where the money is going we will continue to see the money stay in the District Office and never reach our children in the classroom.

  • Hayward Teacher

    Carol:

    In your posting this morning you said that as parents you want your child to graduate
    and get a better job…

    Well, I completed 4 years of college to receive my BA and an additional 16 months of credential school during which I could not work and accured student loans… all to become a teacher. Why shouldn’t
    I be compensated and paid like a professional? My friends who have all put in 5 + years
    of higher education like myself all make around $85,000/year – not including their company paid benefits. I should be paid like the professional that I am because I put in the time
    and sacraficed my early adulthood to educate myself. Don’t you want your children to go
    to college so they too can make more money as adults?

  • http://SCHOOLS carol

    To teachers: My comments above were for the majority of teachers that have not behaved as role models for children that are out on the line supporting their teachers during this difficult time. As previously stated, I have seen where teachers have deliberately caused damage to others and/or their personal property. I too wish to receive monetary compensation for all my hard work. Currently, that is not possible.

    Mr. Duran, I personally know of your hard work. My daughter was a student of yours and your efforts are apparent with her achievements. That is not nor was it my contention with the comments. I do feel that resolution to this strike can be achieved without teachers showing the ugly side of strike tactics and feel that ethics don’t come into play just because they are participating in a strike.

    I could put a months paycheck up for grabs that within the first few weeks of resolving this pay issue that at least one teacher puts in a recommendation for suspension on a student that did exactly what teachers have shown on the strike line. You talk of accountability. Account for actions by several teachers at schools that have elected to misbehave while protesting latest offer placed on the table by district officials. Account for the fact that students repeat what they have been encouraged to do. Account for the multiple days that everyone chooses to stay out at the expense of our children.

    Or am I forgetting…. Do as I say and not as I do rule?!

    I full heartedly believe that if the district was in a financial situation to pay teachers what they ask, that would be considered. I have been through several episodes in Hayward prior to this one. This round of actions by teachers have more than gotten ugly.

    How can we as parents trust the teachers as role models for our children if they themselves behave in an adolescent manner? This is only directed toward those who are not conducting themselves in a profesional manner that exhibits role model behavior in a learning environment!

    Peaceful demonstrations are possible yet have not been displayed during this strike… Please use the example of two major history figures in paving the way for demonstrations and civility during such times.

    No one is saying that more money is not well deserved. After all, we do live in the SF Bay area. All you at HUSD can all be considered educators-teach our kids how to behave properly and professional ON and OFF the picket lines…otherwise don’t place a double standard when your own students perform the same unrespectful deeds you have just demonstrated in front of them.

    For those paying for their medical/dental benefits, it is my understanding that the employees elected to have nearly $4200 added to their annual salary to supplement benefits and was at that time desired to be done. Now that employees are using the benefit card to get more money, prior commitments made by employees are no longer a factor?

    What about the recent elimination of several classified positions to put more money on the table for teachers pay????? Where do you think the money is going to come from??? Have employees considered that there are ramifications for choices made?

    The money is not there. When the budget was presented back in January and update in March, I got a copy to review. I do not see where there is money “Hiding” as it is being said. It is not there. The financial info is on the district website. It contains the same info as the printed version does. Look at the figures for yourself. The district does not have it. Anyone in Hayward, who pays attention, knows that HUSD does NOT need tobecome the next ENRON.

  • Hayward Teacher

    I am curious of this behavior that you are saying that teachers are displaying that would in your opinion warrant a suspension.

    Are you saying that HEA (the teachers union) is lying and manipulating the budget? I am sure that there are plenty of qualified people on the bargaining team with math skills. I also believe that it all depends on where you are getting your information. It seems that it is being interpreted differently by anyone who looks at it. It is my understanding that healthcare increased by 25% and when Hayward teachers decided to “work with the district” to get them out of the financial mess that they were in, they were told “you work with us now, we’ll work with you later.” Well it is now later, and nothing. As far as the elimination of the classified positions – you can personally that Mr. Barry Schimmel for that one. I am personally connected someone effected by that board decision. These are the same people who want the cafeteria workers to pick up and deliver their own food (all student lunches) everyday. This district is making some very poor decisions in every department. Do some research andtalk to some other classified employees in the school lunch program and see how the district is trying to cut their hours and flip their system upside down. The district: Vigil, Schimmel and the board members are trying to short change EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Including the students of this community!

  • another tired teacher

    Carol,
    It is very unfortunate that you feel the need to bash teachers. We are all frustrated but attacking the teachers is unfair. Teachers are not just striking for themselves, we are striking so that there will not be more teacher turnover and teacher flight in Hayward which will have a very negative impact on the children. Hayward is going to be very sorry if they do not treat teachers as the professionals that they are. Believe me; teacher turnover is much more damaging to students than administrator turnover. Teachers are already leaving Hayward in huge numbers for better paying districts or better paying positions such as administrative positions. What is going to happen is that Hayward is going to resemble Oakland and other neglected districts which serve as training grounds for new, uncredentialed teachers wishing to gain experience at the expense of students. They will come, spend a few years here, and move on. Your children will suffer as a result. We have Masters Degrees, and have taken and passed several costly exams (which we pay for). Many of us are fluent in several languages. You should not compare us to people working in minimum wage jobs, because we are highly educated professionals who are qualified to earn high salaries.

    As far as your comment about having had a $4200 increase towards health care a year; for a single person health insurance through the district costs $550 a month. For a family of 4 insurance is $1550 a month. I have 11 years experience, a Masters; I am a bilingual teacher with the maximum units
    allowed and my
    husband still has to work two jobs. It is killing us both. I am seriously considering leaving teaching. It is only my love of the children that has kept me in education this long. I need to tell you though, the disrespect from people like you, the press, Vigil, the district, having to spend so much of my own money on my classroom and students rather than my own children is really making me think about leaving teaching. This strike is going to cause Hayward to lose its best and brightest teachers. Your comments are so hurtful and frankly ridiculous.

    I am grateful to the parents at my school site for supporting us in this strike and teaching their kids to respect unions and teachers. If it weren’t for unions we would still have child labor, and we would still work seven days a week. Schools would still only be for the rich. You really need to read some real history books. I don’t think that you are very well informed. Do you even know who the administrators are in Hayward Unified, and where they come from? The teachers are committed to Hayward. The teachers have been living in Hayward and the surrounding areas for years. The teachers have children in the Hayward schoolsVigil and Schimmel do not. These administrators come and go every few years. I think you really need to educate yourself on what is really going on before you start posting rants and raves about things you really don’t understand. Do you really think that the District is going to post their actual budget on the Internet? Do you even understand how the Cost of Living Allowance works for teachers in this state? Did you go to college?

    Finally, I am sorry, but it is just not true that the majority of teachers are vandalizing private property and attacking substitutes. That is slander and an outright lie.

    Luckily the majority of the Hayward community knows this, that is why most parents are keeping their kids home. Not to mention the fact that the substitutes are having the children draw, watch movies and play all day.

  • Hayward Teacher

    Very well said, Another Tired Teacher! You have my full support and I sincerely thank
    you for your time, effort, and dedication to your students and your school.

  • Angela Hayward mother and alumni

    to another tired teacher, to comment on your remarks carol made…about not publishing the budget on the internet- well, apparently you didn’t go to college as you imply simply that someone else didn’t because if you did you would know that all school district budgets are public accessible documents. they don’t have to be on the web to read them…however if you pay attention, the budget was passed out at the board meetings to include maintenance, wages, benefits and workers comp., supplies, etc. and even that budget was only a projected number. With any leeway there still wouldn’t be enough money. And you can NOT base someone’s level of intelligence on whether or not they earned a degree…life experience is what really counts!!! you can be the smartest person in the world and make the most money with your degrees and the one thing that would matter would be your actual intelligence not how much money you paid for your doctorates. so if you have a degree than you would know this, as per your implications!

  • Another High School Teacher

    I want to thank the parents who have been supporting Hayward’s teachers–your efforts will never be forgotten! Regarding some of the vitrol being directed towards striking teachers, I think that people have forgotten what it means to be unionized, what it means to strike. More jobs should be unionized, but this country has allowed the drive for profit to overshadow the rights of workers of all stripes, which is hugely unfortunate.

    We have been denied the Cost of Living Adjustment given to HUSD by the State of California since 2001. We did not push the COLA issue in an effort to help the district become financially solvent during the post-Kowal era.

    All we are asking for is the COLA that the State gives to the district to give to us. Other school districts give teachers the appropriate annual COLA each year without a huge fight (I know because I’ve worked elsewhere). It’s been very frustrating to work in HUSD and to be denied money that is earmarked for TEACHERS, not administrators or any other purpose.

    I believe that you get what you pay for. Many of us (myself included) came to this district 6-7 years ago because it was offering a competitive wage. I have watched has my talented colleagues have “bled away” in the last 4-5 years in search of better paying teaching positions so that they can afford to purchase homes, start a family, or finance a graduate degree. Each year I grapple with the choice to stay at Hayward High, a school I have grown to love, or leave for a teaching position that offers better pay in a district that offers me more respect and support. So far, my love for my students has won. I do not know how much longer that love will sustain me.

    It’s a shame that this district has such a low level of respect for its teachers. Having watched how the district treats teachers, I’d say you parents have a lot more to worry about than this strike. My department has lost 25 good teachers in the last five years. That makes it very hard to provide the level of consistent, collaborative education that Angela and the pissed Markham parent want for their children. When will you wake up and realize that this district’s policies drive the best, most dedicated professionals away to other districts and schools that know how to show their teachers that they are loved and appreciated for their efforts and sacrifice?

    Teaching is the hardest, most rewarding job I have ever done. I had many misconceptions about what it means to walk in a teacher’s shoes before I taught, but being a student for 17 years prior to my first teaching assignment did nothing to prepare me for standing on the other side of the teacher’s desk. As a stranger told me once at the grocery store: “God bless the teachers–they are his angels here on Earth.”

  • Angela Hayward mother and alumni

    Dear Another High School Teacher,

    I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else when I say this but do not manipulate my statements made to fit your agenda. My child WILL NOT BE ATTENDING SCHOOL SO LONG AS THE TEACHERS KEEP DAMAGING MY VEHICLE AND JUMPING IN FRONT OF MY CAR WHILE IN MOTION…It just happened again this morning approximately 10 a.m. while at the intersection of jackson and amador. They need to stop! you think I want my child to be taught behavior such as this…no way is my child going to attend these schools after witnessing what any one of the teachers can be capable of now.

    AND…

    in the last five years the district was in great peril financially and this administration is still trying to keep us from ending back in the hole. Personally I feel that if anyone has felt so displeased with HUSD for as long as they say they have, these exact people should have found a district mor to their liking and not bring it up 5 years after the fact. If you chose to stay 5 yrs ago then you knew the predicament this district was in and how much needed to be done to remove all the problems. Anyone who chose to leave when they were unhappy good for them. You chose to stay…you knew exactly what you were in for.

    And…you’re right about one thing…we have more to worry about now than just the strike…

    Now we have to worry about the credibility and respectability of the teachers we are suppose to be entrusting our children’s education to…moral fiber right now is NOT THERE!!!!

    And…

  • hayward teacher too

    To Angela Howard,

    As a person who was on the corner of Amador and Jackson today I am amazed at what happened to you. I never saw anything like what you described anywhere…thus I question your credibility. Every parent, student, and teacher that I saw was behaving in a manner that all citizens of Hayward could be proud of. If you noticed almost every car was honking and waving except for one or two, which must have been you. Either you imagined it or need help!

  • elm. teacher

    I have taught for 11 years, this is my 10 in Hayward. I did not like my one year in a nearby district. I live in Hayward, I wanted to make a difference where I live. Everyone who I know that is a teacher, said, do not teach in Hayward its awful, the students are horrible, disrespectful. I did not listen, and what I found when I got to my site was wonderful. My students, my families, my co-workers are amazing, caring people. They are what keep me in Hayward, not the administration. Sure I could leave, and many a time I have said I would, however, I cant leave my families, my students or my co-workers.
    I personally could earn 5,000 to 10,000 more in another district, but I choose to stay.
    I stay because I am invited to birthday parties, baptisms, first communions, soccer games, and other events. Who do my “parents” come to when they have a problem? its me. It makes me very proud to see my students progress. I cry when they are hurt. I have visited the hospital three times, and I hope I never have to go again, but I will if one of my students is there. Once one of my former students had surgery, I went to the hospital to see her, the grandma asked “Who is this?” My student said, ” She was my first grade teacher grandma.” The grandma looked at me in surprise, My student was now in the eighth grade. I know I am not alone in how I feel about Hayward students and their families. It breaks my heart to know that someday I may have to leave in order to provide for my family. It can not be next year. I now teach second grade, and I looked a couple of weeks ago at the first grades, and there are too many of my families there, and I can’t dissapoint them.

  • Another High School Teacher

    Dear Angela,

    You say you want a consistent, quality education for your children–that means you need a consistent body of educators who stay at schools, building collaborative relationships with one another so that they can build a curriculum to meet each of their students’ needs. HUSD’s policies do no foster the kind of teacher community that allows for the level of collaboration a school needs to give you the education you want for your children. That’s the bottom line.

    Perhaps we should all take your suggestion and leave–perhaps all workers of the past should have taken your suggestion and simply left bad situations instead of fighting for justice and truth.

    Without the union and labor action of today and yesterday, today’s workers would not have minimum wage guarantees, there would still be child labor, we’d have no weekends, the 40-hour work week would not be the “gold standard”.

    We’d appreciate your support, but if you don’t want to support us, we’ll rely on the many courageous parents and students who stand beside us fighting for truth and justice. We thank them for their support and sacrifice.

    Finally, you’re posting this response at 9:45 am, yet you say the teacher jumped out in front of your car around 10 am this morning. I’m a little confused about the timing of that? How can you post something BEFORE the event occurs???

  • angela

    just a little remark about the postings// they seem to be at least 1 hour behind or am i the only one that has noticed that right now it is 4:54 pm

  • Ms. Teacher

    This is in response to Carol:

    I’m trying to figure out what incentives you’re talking about? While I do know some teachers who do extra duties (such as coaching, department chair, yearbook) that require several hours per week beyond their normal duties who do get paid a little extra, I don’t know any teacher who makes 6 figures doing these. The most I’ve ever heard is $2000 for people who chair very large departments and have to do a lot of mentoring of their department members.

    I have NEVER heard of ANY teacher in Hayward making $110,000 as a salary. Where did you get this information? If you are going to make such claims, I’d love to know what source of information you are refering to.

    Teachers do not get overtime. We get our “base” salary and that is all unless we take on extra duties as defined by our contract. If you want to know what those duties are and how much money we can get by doing those duties, I recommend that you go to the HEA office and request that information. You will find that no teacher is making $110,000 in this district.

    And, further, what about the lessons that the district is teaching us? Refusing to negotiate while we WERE in the classroom? They’ve had 8 months to negotiate our contract while we were teaching–believe me, striking is the last resort! Calling all of the students and insinuating that the regular teachers would be back in the classrooms because a settlement was reached is another lie that has confused many parents and students. Further, the district and school administrators are telling students that they can give grades (which is a lie) and credits (another lie) for the work students do. The “standards” based curriculum being offered is scandalous–the high school students are being given 7th grade level math work to complete! Students leave my school every day in a panic, asking us what will happen if they fail the work being given during the strike. Only teachers can give grades in this district.

    And, finally, district administrators have “gagged” the high school student government leaders, pulling them out of class back in March to basically try to strong arm the students into silence. You can speak with these students (whose names I won’t mention, as they’re minors) and they will confirm this fact for you. Their education was disrupted so that they could basically be told they could not exercise their right to free speech.

    All in all, things are pretty tame up at my school. We stop parents to give out fliers of information, we’ve set up an information booth for parents and students, we picket, and we try to talk to the strikebreakers and convince them not to undermine our cause. We want to be back in the classroom, but we also want labor peace so that we’re not back out here again next year.

  • Angela Hayward mother and alumni

    Angela: I too have followed that. But I guess it goes with the name. Thanks for the comment.

    And to Hayward Teacher too: I guess the HPD and $1900 damage to the paint and dents caused by wood sticks from your picket signs is all in my mind as well. My daughter was in the vehicle – on the very side that the picketers attacked. Who was there to support me in consoling my daughter and getting her calm so that I could continue driving to my destination. Who should I send the bill to? The teachers union???? Those who picket in their name, HEA is also responsible for. I myself cannot afford deductible at this time as I am a SINGLE mother here in Hayward. This goes back to some of my original comments last week on teachers behaving themself while participating in this strike. But I guess everyone else that has made several comments similar to mine on hitting passing vehicles is all in their mind as well.

    Fortunately it is the weekend. Maybe my travels this weekend will not encounter more signs or bodies being thrown in front of my moving vehicle just to get me to honk and support those that cause damage.

    Go back to work! I can’t afford any more repairs to my vehicle that are being made by strikers!

  • Pissed markham parent

    you tell them ang…

    i have had the same problem at markham and i have almost ran somebody over and i saw a teachers all on 6th street yelling at a parent infront of her kids what about those kids long term emotional damage lets be real teachers you messed up !!! really is that not considered emotional abuse

  • Fernando Hernandez

    Angela Howard:

    I can’t speak about your incident at the school site, as I wasn’t there, but…

    I was at the rally today, in fact went past the intersection you mentioned about 10:30 and I too find you statement hard to believe. There were a lot of people indeed, on the sidewalk and ceratinly not bothering anyone driving by. I find it hard to believe anyone would “throw themselves in front of your moving car” and damage your car this morning. I won’t call it a lie, as I was not there at 10 am, but I don’t believe this happened.

  • Winton Parent

    I’ve been following along on these blogs and I’m beginning to wonder if Pissed Markham parent and the Angelas are misrepresenting who they are. I’ve been at all of the rallies, I met the parent march at Amador and Jackson today (I couldn’t walk all the way, just the last part), and what I saw were teachers who genuinely appreciated our support. I didn’t see any of the teachers throw themselves in front of moving cars or try to hit cars with picket signs or anything like that. Are you really parents? What are your motives? You don’t seem to have anything else to do but attack teachers! Certainly 98% of teachers being out on strike should say something about their cause–and if the only “good” teachers, as you both say, are those who are not on the picket lines, that doesn’t leave us with many “good” teachers at the end of this strike.

    Teachers — I support you and your cause. The Winton teachers are AMAZING people who care about my kids and I am PROUD of the example you are showing them in standing up for yourselves. Heck, if Dolores Huerta has your back, you know the cause must be right.

  • A SCAB

    well i am a hayward teacher i have been for a few years and i love my kids with all my heart (i teach the fourth grade) that is why i chose to cross the lines. Now really i buy my supplies that i want or feel is needed , I also come to school early and stay late . I pay my own health care and dental and also my kids parents have my cel phone number so if there is a problem with homework i can guide them through it. I am not rich have fancy clothes, drive a bmw or anything like that but i knew from the get go that this job was about the love for it not the money!

    Do i deserve to be called a scab? No i do not ? Is it right for the people i called my friends to now shun me ? Is it okay for a teacher to slash my back tire? (that was caught on tape only you could not see the face and the strikers said they saw nothing)No it is not? I did not vote for this strike ! For it is not fair to my kids ? When i say my kids i say that because i love them as my own and i would never abandon my own kids so why would i abandon my school ones?

    Every body has a heart and mine was directed towards my kids. I have already basically givin up the right to a raise if one is achived . I will not take something that i have not worked for!

    So all my fellow teachers leave us alone no more violence towards property, or people.
    You right now are giving the hea a bad name as well as the husd!

  • Angela Hayward mother and alumni

    Fernando: Bliss is ignorance. Unfortunately, there are MANY MANY people that are active in this strike that are not behaving appropriately or acting as role models for the children and very students that they teach. I forgot, they are teaching…… how to misbehave…… how to use a double standard of not doing as I do, but only to do what I say?!! Students are repeating their own teachers actions. I have gone to HPD. They (Police) have said that citizens in this community have been making complaints on actions of teachers and of those supporting the strike. This is not a first time incident. Believe it or not.

    Someone is going to have to take responsibility for this. They were striking. They were not civil. I cannot afford this. Someone will be getting a bill. All of you are responsible for the actions of the few that behave this way. No one amongst the ranks have come out and directly told them to STOP the behavior… Stop the destruction…. Stop the graffiti along one of the overpasses that reads: Support our teachers…. Not only is this classified as vandalism, it is considered defacement of public property.

    So, after all this is done and over with, how much of the city’s resources and funding are going to be wasted in clean up? Or are the Hayward Teachers and their supporters going to volunteer to participate in the Annual Spring Clean Up Days around the Bay Area and clean up their own back yard from the mess they made?

    I am seeing more police around during hours…. Don’t get me wrong, we do need to see more police patroling the areas with the increase… But, I wonder if that shift of personnel would have been necessary had the teachers and supporters carried out this strike without the additional tactics of crimes committed. Yes – crimes. Causing damage to someone’s property is a crime.

  • Fernando hernandez

    Angela Hayward mother and alumni:

    I think you mean, Ignorance is bliss…

    I do not deny the fact that there have been some incidents. Luckily they have been relatively few. The way you describe it people would think there are riots going on on the streets.

    I certainly don’t condone some of the behaviour that has happened on some picket lines. I will bring this up with Mrs. Crummey whey the oportunity arises. I do feel there were aspects of the organization and execution of this strike that could have been better planned and excecuted.

    I for one, made a point to drive by as many schools as possible during my daily routine (what little of it is left during this time!) and at every school I went to drive through and honk in support, I never saw anything but a group of well behaved teachers, parents and students on the picket line.

    I really don’t think it is fair to try to make us ALL responsible for the acts of a FEW

    By the way, yesterday, my daughters and I gave 7 volunteer hours at an event on Prospect Hill, down town, cleaning up and helping further the building of a community garden on Main st. and Hazel Ave. We have been volunteering for this particular project and others causes for years now. So yes, when the time comes, I’m sure teachers and their supporters will help with the clean up.

  • another tired teacher

    Angelas,
    The HPD drive by my school every day all day long and smile, honk, and wave at our picket line! The HUSD security also come by and chat with us all day long and have nothing negative to report about any school site. In fact the only negative report we have got from HUSD security was about many angry PARENTS surrounding the district office the day after Vigil sent out the false message about the strike being over, and security having to calm them down (which was completely understandable).

    The teachers at my school smile, and say “hello”,”good morning” and “good afternoon” politely to all of the children and parents who must cross our line. We give the parents who cross updates and speak to them cordially. We understand that some families have no choice, and obviously we are all going to be together again soon, why would we antagonize our own students and parents? I can only speak for our school, and neighboring schools, but I don’t believe you, nor understand your “reports” and dramatic “stories”. I was also at the parents march today and all of the teachers were standing motionless on the inside of the sidewalk with signs that said “Gracias” and “Thank You”. No one was moving until the parents had passed by completely. Then we walked behind them to the district office on the sidewalk. There were all kinds of monitors to make sure that no one was in the street and that everyone obeyed traffic and safetey rules. I do not understand what you are talking about, nor why you feel the need to bash teachers daily in this blog.

  • Angela Hayward mother and alumni

    Thank you Angela.

    Fernando: “Bliss is ignorance” is exactly how it was meant to read. Not to imply that ignorance is the only way to experience bliss as it would imply in saying that ignorance is bliss. For you, when I made that comment, you seemed very defensive and unwilling to hear what has happened to many people. Being ignorant with this, allowed you to be pleased with things as they were and be at their defense. However, you have made a valid point in saying that not all teachers have been conducting themselves in a proper manner and that things about this strike could have been done differently. I totally agree. I appreciate the fact that you are willing to speak to Kathy regarding teachers actions. Kathy has repeatedly stated since the police have not arrested anyone, that acts like this are not happening.

    To: A Scab: strongly suggest that you submit a report to school security and ask to get reimbursed for the damage to your tire since you were working on school property at the time that the damage was done. After all, I would rather have money go to a person that is willing to continue to educate our children than in the pockets of a few on the line.

    You are a prime example of a person that is willing to put their students as a priority rather than the money. We thank you and you do have our support. And NO you should not be called a SCAB!!! But the Pissed Markham parents #1 and #2 (Angela) are right about one thing, the scabs in the classrooms are the ones that will heal our children’s troubles. Where do we send the box of bandaids?

    Ms Teacher: If I am not mistaken, Carol stated that there are several teachers that do in fact get that amount in their pay. Of course, not to start out as they need to earn their increase with the years in. Of course, interns are not going to receive the same as teachers. But once I heard the salary levels, I started to research this myself. Please go to your own source – HEA – and ask for a chart of salaries of all teachers throughout the district. They have it. Then go to the district and request a computer printout of salaries, years, base pay, and additional pay. That information should be public information as long as no names, ssn’s or other private info is given. Why don’t we all send in a request to Vigil and ask that this info be given out on the website exactly as extracted from the computer printout. Easy report. It could be scanned in to the website on a PDF so that we all can personally see the report and not something that can be misconstrued as deliberate falsifying to justify their cause. Better yet, Kim Santos – please see request below. And to clarify…if you have paid attention to ALL of my posts, you would see I have NOT BASHED all teachers. In fact only those that have “misbehaved” have been commented on, and to those who condone this or make excuses, they are just responsible for the actions of others. And that goes for the union board as well, since they have gone on arguing that none of these incidents have ever happened. I guess we will see in court for the injunction what all has happened to the Hayward constituents as well as the District itself.

    Several teachers have commented that the district waited 7 months to even start to negotiate. Please refer to http://www.husd.us/negotiation_updates.htm for how many times the district did negotiate. This website provides many dates througout this school year that took place.

    Kim Santos: You put out a request for yes/no questions to be presented to both Vigil and Crummey: Please ask: Can the district put a copy of a salary report on the HUSD website that contains only the Salaries of teachers/interns being paid with years of service to include additional pay above “Base Salary” for additional duties assigned? And can they please post this on their website where all their community members can easily access it by a front liin on their main page? Also, for those that do not have web access, to provide copies available for pickup at the front reception area of the district offices. And for Crummey: Can HEA provide a copy of what has been provided to the teachers to rally support? Researchers should not have to enter the picket lines to get this info from Crummey. Will HEA have copies available outside the next Board meeting?

    Editor’s note: Actually, I was discouraging yes-and-no questions…they tend to not get any real information. But I have received your questions. -Kim

  • HAYWARD RESIDENT AND HUSD EMPLOYEE

    TEACHERS: PLEASE DO NOT HIDE THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN VIOLENCE ON THE PICKET LINES. THE DISTRICT LAWYER HAS BEEN TAKING REPORTS, NAMES, AND ETC; TO RECORD ALL THE INCIDENTS OF VIOLENCE ON THE PICKET LINES. EVEN MRS. CRUMMIE SAID ON THE NEWS THAT SHE HAD GOTTEN REPORTS AND WAS GOING TO LOOK INTO IT. ON THE NEWSPAPER SHE SAID SOMETHING LIKE – IT’S NATURAL FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. FOR ALL OF US WHO WORK AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE, WE HEAR THE WALKIE TALKIES CONSTANTLY AS THE SUPERINTENDENTS WALK BY OUR DEPARTMENTS. HOW MANY MORE COMPLAINTS ARE WE GOING TO GET OF SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS HAVING THEIR WINDOWS HIT AND NOT LETTING THEM LEAVE THE SCHOOLS? WHAT ABOUT THE PALMA CEIA INCIDENT? THAT WAS ON THE NEWS! YOU CAN’T HIDE THAT! WHAT ABOUT THE SUB TEACHER THAT WAS FOLLOWED HOME AND SHE SPRAYED THE TEACHERS WITH THE WATER HOSE? WHAT ABOUT THE BLOGSPOT WEBSITE FAIRVIEW AND OTHER SCHOOLS HAVE CREATED TO INSULT THE SUB TEACHERS? WHAT ABOUT ALL THE THREATS THAT THE SUBS WILL NEVER WORK FOR HUSD? FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE NOT THEIR BOSSES AND THERE ARE 30+ SCHOOLS WHERE THEY CAN SUB. DO YOU KNOW THAT YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH HAS CROSSED THE LINE AND YOU CAN BE SUED FOR THOSE WEBSITES? I AM AWARE THAT IT IS ONLY CERTAIN TEACHERS AND SCHOOLS THAT ARE BEING MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHERS. SO NOT EVERY TEACHER IS BEHAVING THIS WAY. PLEASE DO NOT FORGET YOUR ROLES AS EDUCATORS AND THAT YOU CAN LOSE YOUR CREDENTIALS. THERE ARE PICTURES, REPORTS, QUOTES, AND ETC; THE PARENT COMPLAINTS HAVE ALSO BEEN POURING IN AND NOTE THAT THERE WAS ONLY ABOUT 90% OF PARENTS WALKING THE LINE ON FRIDAY. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ALL OF THE DISTRICT PARENTS. PARENTS ARE ONLY GOING BY WHAT THEY HEAR FROM YOU. OF COURSE DRG. VIGIL HAS BEEN IGNORING SOME OF THEM TOO. WE THE EMPLOYEES AT THE OFFICE SEE WHEN HE DOES THIS WHEN WE GO TO LUNCH OR TAKE OUR BREAKS. OH, WHAT ABOUT AN INCIDENT AT TENNYSON HIGH SCHOOL WHERE ONE OF OUR DISTRICT EMPLOYEES WHO IS NOT A SECURITY GUARD, BUT DUE TO YOUR BEHAVIOR – HAD TO SERVE AS ONE … WHAT ABOUT ONE OF THE PRESIDENTS FROM THE CTA TELLING HIM SOMETHING LIKE THIS, “YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A CHAIN SO TIGHT AROUND YOUR NECK ….” WHAT ABOUT THAT? YOU DO NOT CALL THAT A THREAT? I WILL NOT RELEASE HIS NAME BECAUSE HE ALREADY FILED A POLICE REPORT. WHAT DID THE POLICE TELL HIM? THAT THERE WOULDN’T MUCH HE CAN DO BECAUSE BLA BLA BLA!!!!! BASICALLY, A BUNCH OF BS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO UNION. WHAT ABOUT THE MEETING THAT WAS HELD LAST WEEK – IF I’M CORRECT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON MONDAY WHEN THE PRINCIPALS MEET EACH DAY AT 4:00 P.M. – WELL THE POLICE WAS ASKED TO COME. THEY ARE VERY EASY TO COME WHEN TEACHERS CALL THEM, BUT NOT WHEN THE PRINCIPALS CALL FOR HARASSMENT. WHY DID THE TEACHERS CALL THE POLICE? BECAUSE TWO TEACHERS HAVE BEEN HIT BY TWO SUBSTITUTES. THESE TEACHERS ARE BASICALLY GETTING IN FRONT OF THE CARS. WHO’S THE INTELLIGENT ONE TO GET IN FRONT OF A CAR? IS THAT WHAT YOU TEACH YOUR CHILDREN? I HOPE NOT! AGAIN, NOT ALL TEACHERS ARE BEHAVING THIS WAY, BUT PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD TO PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH! DO NOT SHOW YOUR TRUE COLORS IN FRONT OF YOUR STUDENTS. YOU ARE ROLE MODELS!!!!! DO NOT WHINE IN CLASS WHEN A STUDENT IS MODELING YOUR BEHAVIOR ON THE PICKET LINES. THANK YOU!!!!! I’VE NOTICED THAT A LOT OF TEACHERS ON THESE BLOGS NEVER SEEM TO HAVE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS. PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF WHAT YOUR CO-WORKERS ARE DOING ON THE PICKET LINES. PLEASE INFORM THE FAIRVIEW TEACHERS THAT THEY HAVE PUT THEIR FACES ON http://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO CREATED ONE OF THE BLOG SPOTS – NOW WE HAVE A FACE/ PICTURE!!! THERE ARE TEACHERS ON THESE BLOGS WHO GET OFFENDED QUICKLY AND CHANGE THE SUBJECT INSTEAD OF ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS – YOU KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON! WHY TRY TO HIDE IT? PLEASE FIRE KATHY CRUMMIE AND GET A NEW PRESIDENT. MAYBE YOU WOULD HAVE A SETTLEMENT BY NOW. SHE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO MUCH FOR YOU HAS SHE? FOR ONCE, PLEASE SIT AND BREATHE IN AND OUT AND TRY TO ANALYZE THE SITUATION. THERE ARE MANY OF US AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE THAT SUPPORT THE TEACHERS, BUT WE ARE GETTING TIRED OF THIS BEHAVIOR BECAUSE MANY OF US ARE PARENTS AND ARE NOT BLIND TO THE TRUTH. WE FEEL THAT YOU DO NEED TO GET FAIR PAY AND WE ARE ALSO WONDERING – “WHERE IS OUR COLA?” IT BETTER NOT BE ON SCHIMMELS WALLET! WE ALSO WANT VIGIL AND SCHIMMEL OUT BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO BE HEARTLESS. YOU CAN SEE THE SARCASM ON SCHIMMELS FACE. AGAIN, DO NOT FORGET TEACHERS ARE “ROLE MODELS!” STRIKE FOR WHAT YOU DESERVE, BUT NO VIOLENCE!

    Editor’s note: We’ll be further checking out these claims of violence. -Kim

  • elm. teacher

    Angela Hayward Mother and Alum,
    You can get the teachers salary schedule in two places, on the HUSD web site, and the HEA web site.

    On the HUSD site, on the left go to “employment” then to “certificated” then to “183 day” or “186 day.”

    On the Hea site also on the left “contracts and documents” then “barganing agreements…” It is the whole contract. On Appendix A page i, it shows payment schedules for extra duty, and several pages later it has the salary schedules (same as the district, but on the hea site it has the “extra duty salaries”

  • Angela Hayward mother and alumni

    elm. teacher: The question regarding salaries was not to indicate the salaries for hiring now but how many with what seniority are actually getting what $$$…The website does not address the actual question. SO to your response…no point in saying it because I’ve already done that. Actual numbers and what teachers are getting is not there; Only hiring numbers with payscales are…not actual figures with additional pay etc. So please do not jump the gun on that response because your answer….applied to a different question, not mine!

  • Angela Hayward mother and alumni

    Also can we all get over the hype about vigil saying hayward is a blue collar city. Get over it. Hayward is. How many hispanics, guatemalans, and other latinos do you see in this city. Many who hold 1-3 full time jobs to pay the bills. some get paid pretty descent money but for the most part, Hayward remains a poor city. So yes…blue collar hayward. IT’S TRUE!!!

  • Hayward Teacher

    Wow, I have not looked at this particular strand for several days and I am shocked by some of its content.

    As Kim Santos pointed out, there have been no charges filed against teachers, and no substantiated incidents of violence. If by “graffiti on the overpass” you mean the bed sheets that were spray painted and temporarily displayed then tidily removed, then that is something that happened. As teachers, we understand respect for private and public property, and we responsibly clean up all our areas before we leave.

  • Response to Hayward Teacher

    This message is for Ms. Kim Santos too:

    Please review the injunction provided online on the HUSD website. There’s about three pages of complaints filed by the district lawyer.

    Thank you,

  • Rob Kuipers

    Maybe if the average GPA of students were to have increased by 16%, the school board would have an easier time increasing teachers pay. Why should the board pay more money for lower quality product (meaning lower GPA and higher dropouts) If the teachers don’t like it, then please, move on to greener pastures and free up more salary money to pay for teachers who will work for the money. I would rather pay a teacher to teach the bare minimum (reading, writing & math) than to have a bunch of people cry about how their BOSS gets paid more than them. Do the taxpayers a favor and get back to the job that we are paying you to do.

  • hayward teacher

    Rob Kuipers,

    Are children a product? Are test scores a product?

    Your thoughtless analysis is exactly the kind of misdirected reasoning that has lead education in this country so far astray. Is education really a business?

    Businesses provide products and services. Children are most certainly not products, not bricks being molded in a brick factory, but individuals being guided towards self-realization. If education is a business, then it is most certainly a service, and parents are the customers who should be able to judge the quality of service on their own. Likewise they should be able to request the kind of service they would like. But Rob, it is not that simple. The state mandates what service shall be provided, and if the customers (parents) don’t like it, then tough cookies for them. THIS IS NOT A BUSINESS IT IS A PUBLIC SERIVE THAT SHOULD BE A MAJOR PART OF PUBLIC DISCOURSE!

    Did you know that vast pools of research show that physical activity and music are incredible contributors to children’s performance in math and language arts (the subject that you suggest should be taught in a vacuum by automatons)? Based on your callous comments, you have no concept or value for what real education is.

    You suggest that results are the only impetus for increases in teacher pay. Should the tests results of a community be the basis for the funding of a district? If you knew the factors that contribute to higher test scores, maybe you would understand that communities with fewer college graduates need MORE capital to increase their opportunity, not just a judgmental numeric value that undermines their actual level of intelligence.

    Rob your comments make me sick in so many ways. The boss ALREADY gets paid more, he is just received a raise to reward him for withholding money that belongs to the working people. You are the most despicable poster yet.

  • http://none Hayward Parent/Resident

    I’m astonished by the level of hyperbole flying back and forth in this strand of comments. Some of the statements made have been measured and reasonable, seems like the teacher’s responses mostly, while the accusations against striking teachers have appeared to be angry and overstated. I’ve seen some inappropriate behavior out “on the line”, but it was by overzealous parents rather than teachers. As to the accusations made by some, if there isn’t a police report or documentation/evidence showing what occurred then it’s just hearsay and rumor. I understand that a strike can cause emotions to run high but let’s remember who we’re talking about here, teachers, the people who care for the children of Hayward parents on a weekly basis, not anarchists or rioters looking for trouble.

  • Rob Kuipers

    Education is a business. No children are not product, but an education is and the taxpayers demand results. No, it is not tough cookies for a parent who doesn’t like what is being taught because the parent can move to a better district or pay for private school. Yes, test scores should be a factor in district pay, which is why I love the idea of property tax paying for the education system. The property values reflect the economic achievment of the parent and therefore the level of education their child receives because of their parents’ success. This whole topic should focus more about the outcome of these students and how well they have been taught the basic necessities of a high school diploma and not how greedy the evil district manager is. I believe that you, nameless Hayward teacher, are jealous that another person has achieved a higher position and gave himself a raise. That is why America has an open marketplace. If you don’t want to work for someone like that, move on to a better paying position with better managers. Don’t waste time our time and money that could be spent on children.