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		<title>By: J. W. Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. W. Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the problems with the blog is that in many instances contributors take a stand on erroneous
information which I know to be faulty, I am compelled, when possible, to make an attempt to shed light on the subject if for no other reason than to assist in aiding the readers to understand and eventually make proper judgements when addressing concerns at vote time or what ever the need is perceived to be.

Due to life experience, education. job knowledege developed over many years prior to my retitrement 17 years ago this momth, as well as participation in 18 task force groups, ad hoc committees, when appointed by City Council or HUSD administration. I thus claim a wide knowl;edge of the trends and fractors which affect us all.

I agree with the gentleman who argues that the property tax system is unfair. I voted against prop 13 even though I owned a home and was involved, in partnerships, with residential property. I agree that those who have residency in a home over a long period of time, are not payiing taxes as high as the younger folk involved with more recent purchases.

That condition is unfair as was the California tax on parochial schools imposed for the purpose of  support- ing public schools. California was the last state in the Union to discard that unfair tax. It took three votes to repeal that unfair tax. The campaign expense was heavy too ! The most redicuulous part was the effort to re-ikmpose the tax after the third, successful attempt at repeal.

I think myself intelligent enough to recognize that nothing will change the attitude, including that of those who bought homes much more recemntly than I did.
When that attitude changes and Prop 13 is rescinded, we might all see a change in the confusion and distress caused by the current California budget crisis.

I do not accept the idea that I have been &#039;ragging on people&#039; for months. I have a long history of speaking out when people are mouthing known errors. I regard it as a duty if I have the time and knowledge of detail that I regard as &#039;truth of the matter at hand&#039;. If I failed torecopbnize that, then why did I volunteer for the draft into military service?

I once had publicly contributed a response to a speaker at a shipboard meeting of Marine Cooks and Stewards. The meeting went on &#039;till the wee hours when most had gone to bunk down before the Lurline&#039;s passengers presented themselves for still another meal.
The attractive stewardess, who eventuated to become the mother-in-law of a well known &#039;black panther&#039; had risen to speak, in 1948 when I was 17 years of age, her subject was the interferance of the Pope in the Italian elections of 1948. She thought it was an awful transgression by The Roman Catholic Pontiff to state that those who voted for the communist party were in danger of ex-communication from the RC Church.

After the meeting, I pulled her aside and pointed out that Pope was not perforning the act of excommunica- tion but that those who voted for an avowed atheistic political program were to be seen as exmmunicating themselves. To put it simply, you are unable to vote for atheistic communism and remain Christian. The light bulb lit up in her mind&#039;s eye.

The lady recognized the point and came to my rescue a few days later, when in the act of defending myself by a white man&#039;s homosexual attack, I had developed a swollen . blavk eye. During the periodic tour conducted through galley areas for shipboard passengers, I was instructed to turn my back. The stewardess,a young African American, then arranged for me to enter the voluntatily segregated crew&#039;s quarters. The African Americans were &#039;straight&#039; and I had no more trouble from gay crew. It was an eye opener for a young white kid who, at that time had absolutely no idea, not even a clue, of what the African American experience was like. It provided material for elocution class when I returned to finish high school at the end of that 1948 summer season.

The lady described above,in later life became very active in assisting African American parollees in their search for a second chance. Unfortunately she was shot dead in her residential doorway that she had just opened to a man she had been helping.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems with the blog is that in many instances contributors take a stand on erroneous<br />
information which I know to be faulty, I am compelled, when possible, to make an attempt to shed light on the subject if for no other reason than to assist in aiding the readers to understand and eventually make proper judgements when addressing concerns at vote time or what ever the need is perceived to be.</p>
<p>Due to life experience, education. job knowledege developed over many years prior to my retitrement 17 years ago this momth, as well as participation in 18 task force groups, ad hoc committees, when appointed by City Council or HUSD administration. I thus claim a wide knowl;edge of the trends and fractors which affect us all.</p>
<p>I agree with the gentleman who argues that the property tax system is unfair. I voted against prop 13 even though I owned a home and was involved, in partnerships, with residential property. I agree that those who have residency in a home over a long period of time, are not payiing taxes as high as the younger folk involved with more recent purchases.</p>
<p>That condition is unfair as was the California tax on parochial schools imposed for the purpose of  support- ing public schools. California was the last state in the Union to discard that unfair tax. It took three votes to repeal that unfair tax. The campaign expense was heavy too ! The most redicuulous part was the effort to re-ikmpose the tax after the third, successful attempt at repeal.</p>
<p>I think myself intelligent enough to recognize that nothing will change the attitude, including that of those who bought homes much more recemntly than I did.<br />
When that attitude changes and Prop 13 is rescinded, we might all see a change in the confusion and distress caused by the current California budget crisis.</p>
<p>I do not accept the idea that I have been &#8216;ragging on people&#8217; for months. I have a long history of speaking out when people are mouthing known errors. I regard it as a duty if I have the time and knowledge of detail that I regard as &#8216;truth of the matter at hand&#8217;. If I failed torecopbnize that, then why did I volunteer for the draft into military service?</p>
<p>I once had publicly contributed a response to a speaker at a shipboard meeting of Marine Cooks and Stewards. The meeting went on &#8217;till the wee hours when most had gone to bunk down before the Lurline&#8217;s passengers presented themselves for still another meal.<br />
The attractive stewardess, who eventuated to become the mother-in-law of a well known &#8216;black panther&#8217; had risen to speak, in 1948 when I was 17 years of age, her subject was the interferance of the Pope in the Italian elections of 1948. She thought it was an awful transgression by The Roman Catholic Pontiff to state that those who voted for the communist party were in danger of ex-communication from the RC Church.</p>
<p>After the meeting, I pulled her aside and pointed out that Pope was not perforning the act of excommunica- tion but that those who voted for an avowed atheistic political program were to be seen as exmmunicating themselves. To put it simply, you are unable to vote for atheistic communism and remain Christian. The light bulb lit up in her mind&#8217;s eye.</p>
<p>The lady recognized the point and came to my rescue a few days later, when in the act of defending myself by a white man&#8217;s homosexual attack, I had developed a swollen . blavk eye. During the periodic tour conducted through galley areas for shipboard passengers, I was instructed to turn my back. The stewardess,a young African American, then arranged for me to enter the voluntatily segregated crew&#8217;s quarters. The African Americans were &#8216;straight&#8217; and I had no more trouble from gay crew. It was an eye opener for a young white kid who, at that time had absolutely no idea, not even a clue, of what the African American experience was like. It provided material for elocution class when I returned to finish high school at the end of that 1948 summer season.</p>
<p>The lady described above,in later life became very active in assisting African American parollees in their search for a second chance. Unfortunately she was shot dead in her residential doorway that she had just opened to a man she had been helping.</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all do respect, JW&#039;s been ragging on people for months. No one got upset about it until , I made my cooment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all do respect, JW&#8217;s been ragging on people for months. No one got upset about it until , I made my cooment.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Santos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Santos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s be adults, please. This isn&#039;t helping anyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be adults, please. This isn&#8217;t helping anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone runs a rant for several paragrphs attacking me ,I respond calling the person is sick.
Maybe you should include more national and statewide news and the pool of comments and bloggers might increase.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone runs a rant for several paragrphs attacking me ,I respond calling the person is sick.<br />
Maybe you should include more national and statewide news and the pool of comments and bloggers might increase.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2008/03/20/the-age-old-question/comment-page-1/#comment-1721</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The blog welcomes criticism of elected officials, groups, political parties, organizations, journalists, and the ideas and opinions of fellow commenters.

The blog prohibits name-calling and personal attacks. One of a couple recent examples being: &quot;You&#039;re a sick person.&quot;

I think this is common sense and pretty straightforward and so this is my final comment on this topic. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blog welcomes criticism of elected officials, groups, political parties, organizations, journalists, and the ideas and opinions of fellow commenters.</p>
<p>The blog prohibits name-calling and personal attacks. One of a couple recent examples being: &#8220;You&#8217;re a sick person.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is common sense and pretty straightforward and so this is my final comment on this topic. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt
I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s a conspiracy, just that the American Prospect published an article rersearching the MO.On bigger blogs, (in the article)the attackers were traced to being Republican operatives.I don&#039;t think they&#039;re targetting your blog given the comment rate. I didn&#039;t attack anyone personally, I responded to an attack. Are you suggesting that we not criticize elected officials , groups, political parties or organizations, either?The latter are fair game I would think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt<br />
I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s a conspiracy, just that the American Prospect published an article rersearching the MO.On bigger blogs, (in the article)the attackers were traced to being Republican operatives.I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re targetting your blog given the comment rate. I didn&#8217;t attack anyone personally, I responded to an attack. Are you suggesting that we not criticize elected officials , groups, political parties or organizations, either?The latter are fair game I would think.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No Craig, I don&#039;t see any &quot;systematic&quot; right-wing or left-wing conspiracy behind the comments, including yours, that we consider to be personal attacks on other readers and against the rules we have established for guests and contributors to the blog.

Blog policy: While The HayWord welcomes lively discussion and tough criticism, personal attacks on writers or other readers are not allowed. Spam, obscene language, personal attacks or abusive hate speech are not allowed. You may not pose as another person when posting. Violators are subject to a ban. We recommend that posters to The HayWord use their full names when posting, to keep this forum reliable and encourage constructive discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Craig, I don&#8217;t see any &#8220;systematic&#8221; right-wing or left-wing conspiracy behind the comments, including yours, that we consider to be personal attacks on other readers and against the rules we have established for guests and contributors to the blog.</p>
<p>Blog policy: While The HayWord welcomes lively discussion and tough criticism, personal attacks on writers or other readers are not allowed. Spam, obscene language, personal attacks or abusive hate speech are not allowed. You may not pose as another person when posting. Violators are subject to a ban. We recommend that posters to The HayWord use their full names when posting, to keep this forum reliable and encourage constructive discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt,

Blogs are meant to be broken. Or thats what the research has shown in an article last year in the American Prospect. Right wingers systematically attack fellow bloggers and try to poison the air, driving people from the blog. Does the M.O. look familar?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Blogs are meant to be broken. Or thats what the research has shown in an article last year in the American Prospect. Right wingers systematically attack fellow bloggers and try to poison the air, driving people from the blog. Does the M.O. look familar?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2008/03/20/the-age-old-question/comment-page-1/#comment-1718</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I invite you all to help make The HayWord a place where commenters feel comfortable sharing and debating opinions about important local issues. That means avoiding the name-calling, one-upmanship and personal disputes that cause threads like this one to devolve into something that no one else cares to join.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I invite you all to help make The HayWord a place where commenters feel comfortable sharing and debating opinions about important local issues. That means avoiding the name-calling, one-upmanship and personal disputes that cause threads like this one to devolve into something that no one else cares to join.</p>
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		<title>By: J. W. Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. W. Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 05:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monica Ruiz,

Paul Frumkin sent me an E-Nail this evening...... I knew he had been a long time resident ! He states that he has lived in Hayward constantly from the year 1952 when his parents moved here from San Francisco.

Drop him a line and apologize! Suggest also that you confront your source of information. &#039;tis the right thing to do !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica Ruiz,</p>
<p>Paul Frumkin sent me an E-Nail this evening&#8230;&#8230; I knew he had been a long time resident ! He states that he has lived in Hayward constantly from the year 1952 when his parents moved here from San Francisco.</p>
<p>Drop him a line and apologize! Suggest also that you confront your source of information. &#8217;tis the right thing to do !</p>
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