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	<title>Comments on: HUSD&#8217;s Jeff Cook on Proposition 8</title>
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		<title>By: monica ruiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>monica ruiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vigil&#039;s hiring date: May 2005 according to this article:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vigil&#8217;s hiring date: May 2005 according to this article:<br />
<a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_/ai_n15828148" rel="nofollow">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_/ai_n15828148</a></p>
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		<title>By: J. W. Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2008/10/31/husds-jeff-cook-on-proposition-8/comment-page-1/#comment-2138</link>
		<dc:creator>J. W. Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[aAt # 25 above Dylanmom makes a contribution which saddens me a great deal.

If ever there was a confused scribble, in effect a confession of confusion, hers ov Nov. 4th cries out for charitable treatment. In Charity I attempt thoughtful input when I challenge her thitd sentence. I surmise she really meant what she implied that anyone having an affiliation with religion is not qualified for public service.

My thoughts also turn to her son. He is apparently being taught religious bigotry.

My Father died when I was seven and the oldest of three. My Mother passed away 12 years later. I was internally exhilarated with the thought that she died on Christams Day and thus given an opportunity to join a Bi8rthday Party that we muight someday all enjoy....

I missed both my parents but would not have &#039;made it&#039; without my Mother. Only a firm, well founded belief in God did I find real support. That continues today in a marriage into it&#039;s 56th year that has been founded upon shared religious belief.

Now my thoughts turn toward Dylanmom&#039;s son. How would he survive and what woould he become if she passed away without conveying some understanding of what others find in Faith? In sufficient awareness to aid assistance toward maturation?

At the risk of offending Dylanmom, I shall attempt a prayer now and then, for the son as well as for her!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aAt # 25 above Dylanmom makes a contribution which saddens me a great deal.</p>
<p>If ever there was a confused scribble, in effect a confession of confusion, hers ov Nov. 4th cries out for charitable treatment. In Charity I attempt thoughtful input when I challenge her thitd sentence. I surmise she really meant what she implied that anyone having an affiliation with religion is not qualified for public service.</p>
<p>My thoughts also turn to her son. He is apparently being taught religious bigotry.</p>
<p>My Father died when I was seven and the oldest of three. My Mother passed away 12 years later. I was internally exhilarated with the thought that she died on Christams Day and thus given an opportunity to join a Bi8rthday Party that we muight someday all enjoy&#8230;.</p>
<p>I missed both my parents but would not have &#8216;made it&#8217; without my Mother. Only a firm, well founded belief in God did I find real support. That continues today in a marriage into it&#8217;s 56th year that has been founded upon shared religious belief.</p>
<p>Now my thoughts turn toward Dylanmom&#8217;s son. How would he survive and what woould he become if she passed away without conveying some understanding of what others find in Faith? In sufficient awareness to aid assistance toward maturation?</p>
<p>At the risk of offending Dylanmom, I shall attempt a prayer now and then, for the son as well as for her!</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Fitzpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Cook;
  Your answer to all who criticized you shows how little attention you paid to what was written, if you had actually spent time reading what I wrote you would see I also voted yes. I criticized your reasons for your vote not its necessity, and if you would consider if it fails it is people such as yourself who are unwilling to see both sides of the issue and only their view has any meaning that have caused this to happen. Listen to what is said. I did not write a letter of hate, or perhaps you have so much in your own heart you can not understand when someone else does not
Lawrence m. Fitzpatrick]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Cook;<br />
  Your answer to all who criticized you shows how little attention you paid to what was written, if you had actually spent time reading what I wrote you would see I also voted yes. I criticized your reasons for your vote not its necessity, and if you would consider if it fails it is people such as yourself who are unwilling to see both sides of the issue and only their view has any meaning that have caused this to happen. Listen to what is said. I did not write a letter of hate, or perhaps you have so much in your own heart you can not understand when someone else does not<br />
Lawrence m. Fitzpatrick</p>
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		<title>By: Hayward Voter</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2008/10/31/husds-jeff-cook-on-proposition-8/comment-page-1/#comment-2136</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayward Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with DylanMom. I think that, if re-elected, Jeff Cook should be recalled. There is no place in HUSD for a tustee that advocates for a constitutional change that strips people of their rights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with DylanMom. I think that, if re-elected, Jeff Cook should be recalled. There is no place in HUSD for a tustee that advocates for a constitutional change that strips people of their rights.</p>
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		<title>By: J. W. Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2008/10/31/husds-jeff-cook-on-proposition-8/comment-page-1/#comment-2137</link>
		<dc:creator>J. W. Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[who among the blog readers is able to identify the date of hire of HUSD Supt Vigil&#039;s hire?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who among the blog readers is able to identify the date of hire of HUSD Supt Vigil&#8217;s hire?</p>
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		<title>By: Hayward339</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hayward339</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Changing a document such as the Constitution (Federal or State) to restrict freedoms is a very serious action. As stated by many previously, it took many years to add basic freedoms to those that should have been afforded them from the beginning. In the face of our history and future, why should we limit freedoms due to our fear of the unknown, uncertain or unfamiliar? We should have a much higher standard in our considerations and deliberations for removing rights to a certain class or category of persons. I hope we follow the tenet of &quot;first do no harm&quot; when it comes to changing the fundamental laws of our land. Who do we hurt if Prop 8 passes? Who do we hurt if it doesn&#039;t? The argument that we hurt our children is a slippery slope because for some that means we may need to limit discussions about other controversial topics such as sex education (remember that battle) and evolution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Changing a document such as the Constitution (Federal or State) to restrict freedoms is a very serious action. As stated by many previously, it took many years to add basic freedoms to those that should have been afforded them from the beginning. In the face of our history and future, why should we limit freedoms due to our fear of the unknown, uncertain or unfamiliar? We should have a much higher standard in our considerations and deliberations for removing rights to a certain class or category of persons. I hope we follow the tenet of &#8220;first do no harm&#8221; when it comes to changing the fundamental laws of our land. Who do we hurt if Prop 8 passes? Who do we hurt if it doesn&#8217;t? The argument that we hurt our children is a slippery slope because for some that means we may need to limit discussions about other controversial topics such as sex education (remember that battle) and evolution.</p>
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		<title>By: DylanMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>DylanMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With liberty and justice for all!  Unless your gay.  Or unless your another race.  Or unless your poor.  Why is it that elected religious public officials are the biggest hypocrites of all?  What&#039;s all this judge ye not yet ye be judged yourself?  I myself am not religious and I am so tired of having all of your views encroaching on my rights!  I leave you all to your views, don&#039;t force your views on me.  I just don&#039;t think it is appropriate that a school board member would preach such hate and inequality.  I am a single parent with a &quot;Bastard&quot; child who just doesn&#039;t believe in marriage period.  Maybe I should go on a crusade and do away with all marriage?  Why should your view be anymore valid than mine.  Churches won&#039;t be required to perform gay marriage.  You can still go to your church and spew forth your hate messages and not allow gays to get married in your church.  But if church and state are supposed to be seperate, what basis do you have for denying others equal rights?  If you are elected to school board, I am for having you recalled.  For a mother of a &quot;Bastard&quot; child born out of wedlock, I teach my son about tolerance.  I like the fact that I can explain that there are all kinds of different family dynamics out there from single parents, to two mothers or two fathers, divorced parents, etc.  I&#039;d like to say that my son and I have more of a chance of getting into your so called Heaven then do you and your religious hypocrites.  I teach my son to love and respect all.  To help those that need it.  You spread hate and cast stones?  What would your god say to that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With liberty and justice for all!  Unless your gay.  Or unless your another race.  Or unless your poor.  Why is it that elected religious public officials are the biggest hypocrites of all?  What&#8217;s all this judge ye not yet ye be judged yourself?  I myself am not religious and I am so tired of having all of your views encroaching on my rights!  I leave you all to your views, don&#8217;t force your views on me.  I just don&#8217;t think it is appropriate that a school board member would preach such hate and inequality.  I am a single parent with a &#8220;Bastard&#8221; child who just doesn&#8217;t believe in marriage period.  Maybe I should go on a crusade and do away with all marriage?  Why should your view be anymore valid than mine.  Churches won&#8217;t be required to perform gay marriage.  You can still go to your church and spew forth your hate messages and not allow gays to get married in your church.  But if church and state are supposed to be seperate, what basis do you have for denying others equal rights?  If you are elected to school board, I am for having you recalled.  For a mother of a &#8220;Bastard&#8221; child born out of wedlock, I teach my son about tolerance.  I like the fact that I can explain that there are all kinds of different family dynamics out there from single parents, to two mothers or two fathers, divorced parents, etc.  I&#8217;d like to say that my son and I have more of a chance of getting into your so called Heaven then do you and your religious hypocrites.  I teach my son to love and respect all.  To help those that need it.  You spread hate and cast stones?  What would your god say to that?</p>
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		<title>By: Hayward Voter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hayward Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff Cook as the martyr:

&quot;I could not lay low until after the election, even though local political experts told me I was sure to be re-elected if I did not raise this issue. I really would rather lose the election than expose our children to more emboldened, inappropriate indoctrination. This is not a stunt.&quot;

Of course it&#039;s a stunt. Your actions speak to your cowardice. You waited until four days before the election to make your position public. You didn&#039;t raise the issue when it would have made a difference and you know it. You waited until the absentee ballots were in. Why didn&#039;t you make your position known sooner?

Mr. Cook’s logic:

“How logical is it for less than 3% of a population to demand that the rest of society accept a fundamental change in the definition of the basic building block of their society and societies since recorded time?”

The U.S. Constitution was designed to protect the minority from the majority. The U.S. is a constitutional democracy. A majority rules, with protection of minority rights. The framers of the Constitution knew that an unrestricted majority had the potential to take the rights away from people they simply didn’t like or agree with.


Traditional Values:

Is tradition always good? It was traditional to not permit interracial marriage until 1967. It was tradition to not allow women to vote until 1920. It was tradition in the Mormon Church to not allow black members to be ordained into priesthood until 1978. They were considered Canaanites and were not allowed to participate fully in the Mormon religion. It was tradition to only elect white male presidents when they may not have been the best choice. Things change, Mr. Cook. Thank God for that.

Mr. Cook, you can believe whatever you want. You can vote however you want. You can worship however you want. The problem here is that you are using your position as a trustee to lobby for legislation that takes away the rights of others. Lobbying for your own religious and &quot;traditional&quot; beliefs has no place on the HUSD school board.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Cook as the martyr:</p>
<p>&#8220;I could not lay low until after the election, even though local political experts told me I was sure to be re-elected if I did not raise this issue. I really would rather lose the election than expose our children to more emboldened, inappropriate indoctrination. This is not a stunt.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s a stunt. Your actions speak to your cowardice. You waited until four days before the election to make your position public. You didn&#8217;t raise the issue when it would have made a difference and you know it. You waited until the absentee ballots were in. Why didn&#8217;t you make your position known sooner?</p>
<p>Mr. Cook’s logic:</p>
<p>“How logical is it for less than 3% of a population to demand that the rest of society accept a fundamental change in the definition of the basic building block of their society and societies since recorded time?”</p>
<p>The U.S. Constitution was designed to protect the minority from the majority. The U.S. is a constitutional democracy. A majority rules, with protection of minority rights. The framers of the Constitution knew that an unrestricted majority had the potential to take the rights away from people they simply didn’t like or agree with.</p>
<p>Traditional Values:</p>
<p>Is tradition always good? It was traditional to not permit interracial marriage until 1967. It was tradition to not allow women to vote until 1920. It was tradition in the Mormon Church to not allow black members to be ordained into priesthood until 1978. They were considered Canaanites and were not allowed to participate fully in the Mormon religion. It was tradition to only elect white male presidents when they may not have been the best choice. Things change, Mr. Cook. Thank God for that.</p>
<p>Mr. Cook, you can believe whatever you want. You can vote however you want. You can worship however you want. The problem here is that you are using your position as a trustee to lobby for legislation that takes away the rights of others. Lobbying for your own religious and &#8220;traditional&#8221; beliefs has no place on the HUSD school board.</p>
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		<title>By: ponee007</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponee007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not like I was voting for him anyway, but I guess my NO on PROP 8 will cancel him out. Nice to know we have discrimination on the HUSD board.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not like I was voting for him anyway, but I guess my NO on PROP 8 will cancel him out. Nice to know we have discrimination on the HUSD board.</p>
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		<title>By: J. W. Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2008/10/31/husds-jeff-cook-on-proposition-8/comment-page-1/#comment-2110</link>
		<dc:creator>J. W. Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Observer..... #5 above wuz writ by Qodrn.

Snipers hide from view too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Observer&#8230;.. #5 above wuz writ by Qodrn.</p>
<p>Snipers hide from view too!</p>
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