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Pot club policy on year’s agenda in Hayward

2/17 UPDATE: Not going to happen this year.

2/12 UPDATE: Setting a cannabis club policy is coming back before Council on Tuesday, when they will vote on priorities. City manager is strongly urging them to rethink the direction they are going, and opponents (and probably proponents, too) are expected to show up in force. Story about it in Monday’s paper, but consider this a heads up.

It certainly isn’t the city’s only priority, but Hayward added looking into creating an official policy on medical marijuana clubs to its goals for the coming year.

medpotMost of the Council wanted it to be a priority, with Bill Quirk and Olden Henson being the most vocal proponents of setting a policy. However, City Manager Greg Jones and Mayor Michael Sweeney both said NIMBY aspects of such clubs will make it a tough sell to put it in any given neighborhood.

It should garner its fair share of attention when it comes before council later this year — after a dozen proponents showed up last week, a number of residents spoke out against dispensaries at Tuesday’s Council meeting —  but feel free to weigh in here and now.

Other city priorities included working on issues involving the homeless, and the core values held over from last year: Crime/public safety, cleanliness, organizational health, land use and sustainability and fiscal stability.

The full City Manager’s review of 2009 is available here, with a list of accomplishments here. The proposed goals are available here. Council accepted them for the most part, with the exception of the item regarding the rental inspection program and the study of surrounding areas that could be annexed into the city. Those were dropped so the medical marijuana and homeless items could be added to the year’s agenda.

Eric Kurhi

  • Cheryl

    I used to be very supportive of medical marijuana. But after driving past a pot club here daily for several years I’ve changed my mind. The only people I ever see patronizing the club are healthy looking young men. It seems that the pot clubs are a sham. If we just want to sell pot to people then we should legalize, regulate and tax it but not pretend that it is for ill people.

  • John Kyle

    If it is truly medicinal, then let it be disoensed from pha5rmacies within Hospitals where the parking area is sufficient to provide parking; and would it then be considered part of medicaid or medicare, if the pharmacy is run by an HMO ? Of course the prescribing doctor would need to bew affiliated with the hospital.

    Prescriptions woukd need to be refilled every 10 days, two refill limi and they to whom the prescrpition is intended would be given only enough for two smokes a day….. no sense cauising lung illness with larger doses. Right?

    No refills unless a re-visit to Doctor’s office has occurred so that Doctor would monitor patient properly.

    ‘proper’ identification would be required before pharrmacy releases original or refills.

    Verstahen zie?

  • qodrn

    Pot clubs are a sham. Marinol, marijuana, has been available by prescription form for years. Has some effect on increasing appetite, although there are more meds available now for this purpose. Same as morphine, etc. it is distributed as a controlled substance. Medical marijuana is NOT necessary. What dose do you get by smoking this stuff? The dose enters the body immediately and there is no antidote. You can overdose on MJ just like water or anything else. Who made this stuff? Do you know? The usual pills and stuff are bad enough with product shortcuts; you have no idea where the mj came from; is it really mj? And it is VERY expensive. The only thing that explains the stupidity of the people is they are damaged from MJ.

  • Fernando Hernandez

    Dr. Qodrn:

    So let me get this straight:

    You state folks “don’t have any idea where MJ comes from” and that it is very expensive”

    The only reason these two points are true is because of the federal government’s insists on classifying marijuana in the same category as heroine or cocaine, which it should not be.

    I can tell you of lots of instances of people dying from alcohol overdoses, as we have read recently in cases of youth in the bay area. I can even tell you of a case of a woman who died from water poisoning during a contest held by a radio station a couple of years ago, but…

    When was the last time you heard of a marijuana overdose related death?

    Those folks who need MJ for medicinal purposes ought to be able to grow their own medicine. This would not only assure them access to MJ free of pesticides and chemicals, but would keep both the big pharmaceutical companies and the drug cartels off their pockets.

    You also state that Marinol has been available for years and question “What dose do you get by smoking this stuff? The dose enters the body immediately and there is no antidote”

    If you read what is available with an open mind, you would know that patients that use medical marijuana don’t like marinol precisely because being ingested, it takes a long time to take effect, which makes it hard to regulate the dose. When folks smoke, they know exactly how much they have taken and whether or not they need a little more.

    Antidote? I guess in case you get sleepy from one too many puffs?

    Maybe some day we will be enlightened enough to TAX weed and use some of those revenues to treat addiction and health care, like we do with alcohol.

    Did we learn nothing from the alcohol prohibition “experiment”?
    We tried prohibition then and it didn’t work, but it sure spurred crime, and mayhem, didn’t it?

    We are trying prohibition now with MJ and it is not working either, to the benefit of drug cartels both here and south of the border.

    Just recently it was in the newspaper that it is easier now for teens to get marijuana than alcohol, because alcohol is regulated!

    Finally you ask ” is it really marijuana”
    What an absolutely ridiculous statement!
    If I fed you baking powder instead of sugar you would know, wouldn’t you?

  • qodrn

    Sorry, just a lowly retired RN, no Dr. Yes, there are mj od’s, and related deaths. How do I know? My sisters both work in critical care, and other reasons. Self dosing is not reliable, because your body learns responses and keeps needing higher doses to achieve the same effect. Also, nerves need time to recover from stimuli. Example, ever tested the temp of a shower, and then stepped in to a too hot bath? If you tested the water several times with the same hand, you are a victim of over stimulated nerves. This is why if you test the heat of a baby bottle, they tell you to rotate arms when testing. Of course, if you buy the mj, are you getting the same dose? Anyway, with the prevelence of MJ at schools, etc. (and boy is it prevelent) I don’t think we need more by legalizing it.
    I do agree that growing your own is probably safter though. Probably way cheaper too.

  • qodrn

    I forgot, if you grow your own, what tax revenues? Why would you want to pay more for weed?
    Do I think alcohol should be more regulated? Yes I do. I think you should be limited in the amount one person can purchase. But that’s just me. I would like to decrease the number of under the influence drivers.

  • Dan

    “Yes, there are mj od’s, and related deaths.”

    Thank you for demonstrating that you know nothing about marijuana, and that you are most likely lying your pants off.

    In order for a human to consume enough marijuana to be fatal, they would have to consume nearly 40,000 times the amount of THC required to intoxicate them. In contrast, it only requires about 5 to 10 times the amount of alcohol required to intoxicate, to be fatal. For example, if it requires 3 beers to intoxicate you, it only requires 15 to 30 beers to kill you. However, if it takes you 3 ‘hits’ of marijuana to intoxicate you, it would require 120,000 hits to kill you.

    Further, there is NO peer reviewed scientific evidence that shows that marijuana causes brain damage. There is NO peer reviewed scientific evidence that shows that marijuana damages the reproductive system. There is NO peer reviewed scientific evidence that shows that marijuana is a gateway drug. There is NO peer reviewed scientific evidence that shows that marijuana suppresses the immune system.

    Thanks for playing, now move along.

  • Fernando Hernandez

    Thanks Dan:

    I do believe it was in the newspaper just a few days ago that a state funded study found MJ does work. The doctor(s) quoted on the story mentioned health reasons not to use it on account of the effects of smoking, but he did not mention overdoses or related deaths.

    The focus of the latest article had to do with the increase of use of medical MJ by older patients…

    I take qoudrn’s statement that he or she is a retired nurse and his sisters are acute care nurses with a grain of salt as well. So long as folks hide behind pen names, we just won’t know…
    Maybe this individual is one of those folks brainwashed by the “reefer madness” tactics of years past…

    I do find it curious that this news paper has not updated or made mention of the recent articles as they relate to this conversation the same way they have updated other stories, such as the one regarding the school board and the retirement of Dr. Gonzalez…

    Fernando