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Centennial Hall update, and Hayward’s letter to Arizona governor

There’s some significant items of interest on the agenda for tonight’s City Council meeting. It looks like the Mika group has lost interest in turning Centennial Hall and Tower into a office tower/convention center/hotel/ housing development. The city is poised to break out of the exclusive negotiating agreement and start the process to demolish the current convention center. The tower, well, that’s another story. It’s estimated that it would cost about $1,870,000 to tear it down, and it’s owned by Mika.

Another item on the consent calendar has created a buzz. It’s a resolution to send a letter to the Arizona governor regarding the recent immigration law passed by that state. Had some e-mails in the inbox this morning about it — here’s an excerpt from one addressed to the mayor and council:

Are you OUT OF YOUR MINDS?  How DARE you take it upon yourselves to speak on my behalf regarding Arizona’s new and WISE immigration law!  Face it, folks.  The fed’s aren’t fixing the problem (obama is hoping to grant amnesty for the ILLEGAL aliens just in time for the November 2 election – prove me wrong) so therefore, Jan Brewer did the State of Arizona a FAVOR by passing this law.  I’d like a show of hands on just HOW MANY OF YOU ACTUALLY READ THE ENTIRE BILL!  Probably just as many as have read the health care monstrosity, right? …
 

What you SHOULD be focusing on, instead, are the issues that concern the City of Hayward – NOT Arizona!  Eleven murders this year?  Rampant burglaries?  How about balancing the school budget?  THESE issues are what you should be focusing on – not Arizona’s issues!  What a waste of your time!

Eric Kurhi

  • qodrn

    Why does the city want to tear down Centennial Hall? I think Hayward could use a site to rent for events and such Seems like making money would be better than simply tearing it down. Hayward is already too empty. This is goofy. The hall looked pretty nice at the events there that I went to…

  • Fernando Hernandez

    It is my understanding that the hall has been loosing money for years, as the rentals do not generate enough money to even brake even, let alone actually make money.

    The city has been subsidizing the enterprise for years.

    Too bad the tower will not be developed. I wonder how many more years before something happens there.

  • qodrn

    Still, I wonder if it really HAS to lose money. Also the shows attract folks to Hayward, who maybe spend money here on gas, food, etc. Some of those shows were a great learning experience for school kids.

  • Eric Kurhi

    Qodrn — My wife and I had our wedding reception at Centennial Hall back in 2006. It was fine. I mean, nothing fancy — we had one of the subrooms, not the main hall — but everyone had a blast. The price was right, that’s why we had it there. Could they have started to charge more to break even? I don’t know.

    But the reason for the deconstruction, according to the staff report: “One, to prevent it from becoming an attractive nuisance as has the eleven-story building; and two, to begin preparing the ‘campus’ site to attract future development.”

  • Cheryl

    I caught part of this meeting on tv tonight. It doesn’t make any sense to tear down Centennial Hall. I thought it was a fine venue for the many events I attended there. The reasoning given by some council members supporting the deconstruction of the building was that it was not nice enough for Hayward. My take on that is that it functioned well and brought many interesting events to Hayward. An actual functioning site sure beats the pants off a pipe dream of a “nice” building that will probably never be built. What a shame.

  • qodrn

    A pity they didn’t at least wait for the new city council to take office. You can’t tell me it doesn’t cost money to tear the thing down. I really wonder what it wrong with Hayward City Council. They seem to be turning Hayward into vacant lots and closed buildings. I sure miss the skating rink, the bowling alleys and other stuff.

  • obama.newage

    Too bad they want to tear Centennial Hall down they need to let the new city council decide what to do with it and not the one going out.

  • John W. Kyle

    O’bama old age;

    As a resident of Oakland….. what do you care whether the decision is made by the new or the old council? If the new members are opposed to the idea they would need to convince one of the other five to cakll the matter back. Certainlym, there is no impetus to do that on the say so of an Oakland Resident.

    Seems to me you have plenty to do in Oakland. By the way, when did the Mayor of Oakland involve himself in Oakland Public Schools….or did you not know that Coty and Chool District are separated by the same legalities whioc separate the City of Hayward from the Hayward School District.

    Go Home, start boarding up the busines stores operating in Fruitvale Districy and the Central City Areas…….. no matter what the verdict, there will be attempts t5o create a riot…. which ought be your imediare focus point.

  • John W. Kyle

    The best thing that happened to ‘Central Business District’ of ‘down town’ Hayward was the removal of the Doggie Diner which stood AT THE cORNER OF c STREET AND mISSION….. NEXT TO THE pOST oFFICE AND OPPOSITE THE lIBRARY pARK….. THOSE UGLY FIBER GLASS HEADS AND THE BODY OF THE LUMBER jACK…. ARE UGLEY, ‘DECLASSE’ (FALLEN,) LOW IN CLASS TYPE ADVERTISING ART WHICH SPOKE OR SPEAK POORLY OF OUR CITY.

    gATHER THEM UP….. TAKE ‘EM TO oAKLAND!

  • Alex Harmon

    it sucks that the tower wont be reopened soon. :( i was looking forward to seeing it…

  • cwbyht

    Looks like the council smugly ignored the majority of Hayward citizens and bought into the hysteria and lies about racial profiling.

    Personally, I’m tired of what illegal immigration has done to Hayward. How many murders, how much drug and gang activity in the last 40 years can be attributed to illegal aliens?

    The voters know council. Don’t expect we’ll forget come election time.

  • teachermama

    Cwbyht: “How many murders, how much drug and gang activity . . . can be attributed to illegal aliens?”

    Probably very little. The HPD might have that data, or maybe not, since you would only count those convicted, not arrested. Legal status is a complicated thing. 2/3 of “illegal immigrant” families have one or more members that are in fact U.S. citizens. “Illegal” immigrants live, work, study, parent, pray and play side-by-side with legal residents. There is no way to tell them apart. In just one household, you can find people with no legal status, with full legal status and partial legal status. These family members share the same values and goals. Having papers does not make someone more or less prone to violent crime.

    There is much to appreciate about living in an area with a long history and a current flow of immigration. We can thank immigrants for revitalizing dormant areas of our communities, participating in the labor force, keeping our schools open, providing revenue, and making vibrant intellectual and artistic contributions to our local culture.

    Studies show that immigrants from Mexico have BETTER social indicators (for example, lower obesity/diabetes levels, more preventative care) upon arrival in the U.S. than they have after several years here. In other words, immigrants come with relatively healthy lifestyles, but the longer they live in poverty in the U.S., the worse off they become. Would this not hold true for most of the other countries represented by immigrants here in Hayward? Instead of targetting a certain class of people, state and local governments should implement reforms to alleviate poverty and better support all community members. This would put a large dent in the very real social problems that we struggle with in Hayward.

  • John W. Kyle

    Recently saw the Netflix documentary of the History of Chicago….. had some interesting stuff about the Irish ‘pick and shovel; guys who dug the Erie Canal.

    Irelands potato famine was an incredigble disaster…. folks in Ireland had cuktivated potatoes to the extent that their diet consisted of potatoes to theextent that it was the major portion of their diet…. in excess of 75% of meals eaten dailyy….. the disease whioc cost so many lives saw thwn rfleeing the old country in huge numbers.

    British tyranny on the subject of religion together with the fact that as tenants they were unable to pay the rent on their rocky land….forbidden to practice religion except when the prriest made the ’rounds’ and held Mass in tyhe fields behind the rocks which had been poled up as a means of cultivatinbg the soils, lousy as they were….. saw then dying or fleeing, lacking ability in =Engklish Languiagew,denieed education…. they came her in droves and were relgated to ditch digging.

    After finishing the Eriew canal…; using only hand tools and carts…. another canbal was started to drain the Marsh lands then existing where the major buidings are ni=opw locatted

    So, gicen lousy livuing conditions, pooe health, illegal presence here and no jobs other than digging, a large number of men, without wives or family, in astrannge land, lacking good health….. they were looked down uopon and the Afro/American ‘emancipated’ had better jobs…. they moved away fron the neighborhoods in which the irish were packjed ….

    They were the for runners of the immigration poroblem we see in Arizona today……

    I say, it is timew that we accept the fact that the large majority are hard working healthy people, without whose help the agricultural combines of Central valley would not compete with much of the fruit we see being imported from Central and south America.

    Gey over it folks…. some of thos folks are being persecuted in Mexico….. another priest arrested about a week ago! His crine? Speaking out ABOUT SOME ILLOGICAL AABUSE OF NATURAL RESOURCES……… iN oCT OBTOBER OF 1928.aq PRIEST WAS LINED UP AGAINST THEWALL AND SHOT….. HIS CRIME…. SAYING mASS IN THE OPEN AIR WERE ALL COULD SEE HIM VIOLATINBG THE LAW AGAINST SUCH HEINIOUS ACTIVITY….. THAT IS WHY lEON tROTSKY ESCAPED TO LIVE iN mEXICO BEFORE jOE sTALIN HAD HIM ASSAINATED….. ASSAIAIN RELAEASED ASN DSENT BACK TO rUSSIS IN EARLY 1950′S…( OR THER ABOUT).

    hONEST PEOPLE ARE BEING SLAUGHTERD IN DRUG GANG WARS…….. FOLKS IN GOOD OLD usa OUGHT STOP USING DRUGS……. PEACE JUST MIGHT RETURN TO mEXICO IF WE STOPPED BUYING DRUGS OR SELLING ASSAULY=T RIFLES…. HELL SOME OF OUR us cITIZENS ARE BEING SHOT FROM POSITIONS ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE RIVER….. SO WHEN WE SEE THAT THE DEATH RATE DUE TO GAND WAR IS ESCALATING… aRIZONA PASSES A LAW TO SEND SOME HONEST PEOPLE ON MERE SUSPICIONS…… JSU AS HAD HAPPENED WITH THE iRISH!

  • obama.newage

    Every time anyone uses drugs they are promoting all the killing of people all over the world over drugs so you all report any drugs dealing or buying no matter what to the police so that we clean up our neighborhoods.

  • Craig Jones

    Dear Mayor,

    As a resident of Hayward since 1957 I am appalled that you would take it upon yourself to speak for your constituents. I for one applaud Arizona for taking a stance when our government would not. I agree with numerous others in this city that your attention would be best served by solving the issues that face Hayward. The Hayward of 1957 is a far cry from the Hayward of 2010.

  • John W. Kyle

    Craig Jones;

    I sure hope that those who read your entry above do not confuse you with Greg Jones who is an inteneded candidate for HUSd Trustee.

    What do you think of the drug gang wars in Mexico and the recent story that gang meembers have been temporarily released from prison in order to do a “HIT” on a rival gang ……

    Shucks, you want to ease that problem just get the regular good old USA Citizens to stop buying the damn drugs that fuel the problem within M4exico…… If I were a Latino living in Mexico, I’s sure as hell be looking for a way out….. get it????

  • Jeff

    I concur with Craig Jones.

    The current immigration policy/enforcement is like having your front door unlocked at your own house and anyone can come in and stay. They sleep and eat the food in the fridg and even watch TV. They might even contribute a little to the rent. However in end you can’t even kick them out of the house if you want to.

  • John W. Kyle

    Jeff;

    That seems a bit narrow. Somewhere in this blog I natrrated the World War II time experience watching the ‘Bracero Program’ We invited Mexicans during the war with the promise of good wages and added that Social Security payroll deducts would be sent to Mtxico so that a nest egg would await them on retirment./…. we screwed ‘em…. the money ‘done got losted’. Yet without the bracereo program we might well have lost the war since all those ‘okies’ etc as well as others low on social acceptance lists were being paid incredible wages in the Ship yards and factories preoducing war materials needed by ships at sea as well as trops in the fox holes.

    Drug dealess must be dealt with by more serious puniyive lawas of punishment, which are enforced.

    Privacy between drug addicted patients and hospitals, doctors etc., ought be abandoned unlees the addicted reveal the sources of their ‘suppply’ Do not for a moment think that the drug addicted are limited to low income folk……

    We have so called movie “STARS” being hauled into court for alcohol and drug addiction….. 30 or 90 days in the clink does not work….. Hold them up for public ridcule before and after they ‘get out’ of their ‘programs’

    Same with the “Truants’ at HUSD! Have you seen the latest reports on Truancy? Do you think it possible they have been recruited to stand on a corner to make .big bucks’ at the expense of their future condition in life?

    I say… hold ‘em up for ridicule’ especially when they turn 21…. their truancy history ought be exposed!

    As to illegal immigration…. if the truth were known half the Irish in the USA probably owe their
    presemnce and enjoyment of citizenship to the illegal great grand parent or grandparents…. yet we manage to steal a City Hall, somewhere in the USA on a regular basis.

  • http://Hayward Lisa Brunner

    Centennial Hall is a beautiful well-built building that should be be in use by the citizens of Hayward. Since the hotel and convention center idea has fallen through–I think some consideration should be given to turning it over to either Hayward Area recreational Department, East Bay Regional Parks, or a private company to use as an indoor “Sports Facility” with indoor soccer(right now you have to go to Pleasanton or Alameda for indoor soccer; we have a much more central location), basketball tournaments,conventional sports and maybe Rock Climbing ; modeled after City Beach in Fremont, it could also host Civic Events.

    Hayward needs to reuse it’s historical buildings. Hayward needs things for it’s citizens to do in town, especially it’s young people…

  • John W. Kyle

    Lisa…. yes and perhaps another fitting use would be as a site for a Town Hall meeting IF and this is a big IF, there are enough people interested in doing somethig for HUSD through a Town Hall meeting site!

  • Alex

    Lisa, that sounds like a good idea. better than just sitting there. it could give us youth something else to do downtown…

  • qodrn

    Some of us old broken down folks also used to enjoy bowling, skating and other such stuff. Good idea Lisa.