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		<title>By: qodrn</title>
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		<dc:creator>qodrn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that the Hayward district has so many problems that the pay of the board members is way down on the list.  If that was all that was wrong, wouldn&#039;t it be great?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the Hayward district has so many problems that the pay of the board members is way down on the list.  If that was all that was wrong, wouldn&#8217;t it be great?</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy's Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy's Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! My girl is still young, I was not around then. Hopefully with 3 new members on the board,  we could experience what you relate above. Oh, how I long for transparency, and plain all nice decorum!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! My girl is still young, I was not around then. Hopefully with 3 new members on the board,  we could experience what you relate above. Oh, how I long for transparency, and plain all nice decorum!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi Booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathi Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No I have never been an employee of HUSD or any other school district.  I have been an advocate for children and families with special needs for over 25 years, working mostly in Hayward.  I have been a &quot;board/district watch dog&quot; since the late 1970s.  In those early years there were a group of people who were determined to make the district do what was right and follow the law, for the benefit of ALL students in the district.

For many years we spent one to two days a week at the district offices going over each and every bill warrant (expenses that they pay out) to see just where the money was going.  During that time we exposed questionable spending on travel and conferences by the district administration; questionable purchases and then use of vehicles purchased by the district; inequities regarding students from low income families; exclusionary practices for cheerleadeing and other &quot;extra curricular&quot; activities.  All of which were changed or corrected.  

During that time, while the Board of Education and administration was not happy with our constant &quot;calling them on the carpet&quot;, we were treated in a respectful manner.  No attempt were made to shut us down.  There were board members who took the administration to task and NEVER  were there attempts to change the way meetings were conducted or to essentially shut up and outspoken board member.  

People from the community were allowed to make corrections to the minutes, board members were allowed to make corrections to the minutes, and those corrections were duly recorded and appeared in the minutes that were published.  NO ATTEMPTS TO KEEP THE MINUTES FROM ACCURATELY REPRESENTING WHAT WAS SAID EVER HAPPENED. 

Until Dale Vigil, the superintendent and their staff, sat to the side of the Board of Education.  At no time was there an attempt to place the superintendent in the middle of the Board of Education.  The line between Board and District was well drawn and there was mutual respect for each of their positions.

The decorum of meetings was not always calm and polite, but disagreement and raised voices, were not ridiculed in public.

I have seen HUSD go through many valleys and peaks, however never have I seen such open ugliness, on a regular basis, directed at colleagues or for that matter at the general public.

Lately the term &quot;Power corrupts&quot; is being shown on a regular basis by the superintendent&#039;s conduct as well as certain board members.  How sad, that personal differences and one upping someonee with whom you do not agree has become the norm among our Board of Education and the HUSD administration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I have never been an employee of HUSD or any other school district.  I have been an advocate for children and families with special needs for over 25 years, working mostly in Hayward.  I have been a &#8220;board/district watch dog&#8221; since the late 1970s.  In those early years there were a group of people who were determined to make the district do what was right and follow the law, for the benefit of ALL students in the district.</p>
<p>For many years we spent one to two days a week at the district offices going over each and every bill warrant (expenses that they pay out) to see just where the money was going.  During that time we exposed questionable spending on travel and conferences by the district administration; questionable purchases and then use of vehicles purchased by the district; inequities regarding students from low income families; exclusionary practices for cheerleadeing and other &#8220;extra curricular&#8221; activities.  All of which were changed or corrected.  </p>
<p>During that time, while the Board of Education and administration was not happy with our constant &#8220;calling them on the carpet&#8221;, we were treated in a respectful manner.  No attempt were made to shut us down.  There were board members who took the administration to task and NEVER  were there attempts to change the way meetings were conducted or to essentially shut up and outspoken board member.  </p>
<p>People from the community were allowed to make corrections to the minutes, board members were allowed to make corrections to the minutes, and those corrections were duly recorded and appeared in the minutes that were published.  NO ATTEMPTS TO KEEP THE MINUTES FROM ACCURATELY REPRESENTING WHAT WAS SAID EVER HAPPENED. </p>
<p>Until Dale Vigil, the superintendent and their staff, sat to the side of the Board of Education.  At no time was there an attempt to place the superintendent in the middle of the Board of Education.  The line between Board and District was well drawn and there was mutual respect for each of their positions.</p>
<p>The decorum of meetings was not always calm and polite, but disagreement and raised voices, were not ridiculed in public.</p>
<p>I have seen HUSD go through many valleys and peaks, however never have I seen such open ugliness, on a regular basis, directed at colleagues or for that matter at the general public.</p>
<p>Lately the term &#8220;Power corrupts&#8221; is being shown on a regular basis by the superintendent&#8217;s conduct as well as certain board members.  How sad, that personal differences and one upping someonee with whom you do not agree has become the norm among our Board of Education and the HUSD administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi Booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathi Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Kyle, the Education Codes may be read on line.  Yes I agree that HUSD should do much more to combat truancy, however HUSD has or had what is called the School Attendance and Review Board, SARB, to deal with truancy.  At one time it was a very strong and powerful board, I have no idea if it even exists or is being used to its fullest during recent years.  For your informaton, there have been numerous instances when students, for whatever reason, have been absent for extended periods,and the district administration has simply &quot;disenrolled&quot; them.  I represented a family that had medical problems, the district assigned a home teacher that was not reporting his visits or the students progress, therefore the student was considered a habitual truant.  The parent was not equipped to understand district communications, tried her level best to see to it that her child was educated and received ABSOLUTELY no support from HUSD.  The district is broken and has been for many years!!  I could cite numerous instances of misuse of funds, that were documented, numerous instances of administrative misconduct, that were documented and for a while the conduct of HUSD business was set on the right path.  The problem now is that parents and community members that attempt to be &quot;watch dogs&quot; are treated in such a disgusting and dreadful manner that they simply give up; often for the sake of their children escaping retalliation.  Someday I will enumerate just a few of the times that HUSD has been &quot;caught in the act&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Kyle, the Education Codes may be read on line.  Yes I agree that HUSD should do much more to combat truancy, however HUSD has or had what is called the School Attendance and Review Board, SARB, to deal with truancy.  At one time it was a very strong and powerful board, I have no idea if it even exists or is being used to its fullest during recent years.  For your informaton, there have been numerous instances when students, for whatever reason, have been absent for extended periods,and the district administration has simply &#8220;disenrolled&#8221; them.  I represented a family that had medical problems, the district assigned a home teacher that was not reporting his visits or the students progress, therefore the student was considered a habitual truant.  The parent was not equipped to understand district communications, tried her level best to see to it that her child was educated and received ABSOLUTELY no support from HUSD.  The district is broken and has been for many years!!  I could cite numerous instances of misuse of funds, that were documented, numerous instances of administrative misconduct, that were documented and for a while the conduct of HUSD business was set on the right path.  The problem now is that parents and community members that attempt to be &#8220;watch dogs&#8221; are treated in such a disgusting and dreadful manner that they simply give up; often for the sake of their children escaping retalliation.  Someday I will enumerate just a few of the times that HUSD has been &#8220;caught in the act&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi Booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathi Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Kyle, state law provides for board members to submit expenses for district business as long as they have receipts to substantiate their claims.  It is then up to the district financial office to determine if such expenses are to be repaid.  I am not suggesting that they bring bag lunches, while that may not be a bad idea given the state of HUSD finances.  What I am saying is they are entitled to $420.00 maximum per month accordidng to state law.  If you and others think that this is not nearly enough, then I suggest that you attempt to get a proposition on the ballot that would provide BOE members with more compensation for their duties.  To suggest that perhaps I am being, in my words, &quot;silly or nit-picking&quot; is a stretch. I believe that I agreed that what the law mandates is tooooooo little, but until such time as it is changed, it is incumbent upon HUSD leadership and the BOE to follow the law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Kyle, state law provides for board members to submit expenses for district business as long as they have receipts to substantiate their claims.  It is then up to the district financial office to determine if such expenses are to be repaid.  I am not suggesting that they bring bag lunches, while that may not be a bad idea given the state of HUSD finances.  What I am saying is they are entitled to $420.00 maximum per month accordidng to state law.  If you and others think that this is not nearly enough, then I suggest that you attempt to get a proposition on the ballot that would provide BOE members with more compensation for their duties.  To suggest that perhaps I am being, in my words, &#8220;silly or nit-picking&#8221; is a stretch. I believe that I agreed that what the law mandates is tooooooo little, but until such time as it is changed, it is incumbent upon HUSD leadership and the BOE to follow the law.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W. Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ns. NBooth:

May I ask you to explore your copy of the ed code and advise the following:

If the law requires parents to provide a child with an education.... it implies the existence of a law which invokes penalty for failure for not assuring a child&#039;s presence in the classroom.

The question has been bothersome since I have asked for clarifaction of the fact that in year 2007-2008
 the loss of ada money was reputed to refelct a 92.5 % daily attendence &#039;acheivement&#039;.

I see something troubling in that. Don&#039;t you? Please check it out.... and since you apparently have a copy available to you , are you able to advise current cost of the publication on a single issue basis? Is your copy up to date and how does one obtain updates without buying a whole new issue?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ns. NBooth:</p>
<p>May I ask you to explore your copy of the ed code and advise the following:</p>
<p>If the law requires parents to provide a child with an education&#8230;. it implies the existence of a law which invokes penalty for failure for not assuring a child&#8217;s presence in the classroom.</p>
<p>The question has been bothersome since I have asked for clarifaction of the fact that in year 2007-2008<br />
 the loss of ada money was reputed to refelct a 92.5 % daily attendence &#8216;acheivement&#8217;.</p>
<p>I see something troubling in that. Don&#8217;t you? Please check it out&#8230;. and since you apparently have a copy available to you , are you able to advise current cost of the publication on a single issue basis? Is your copy up to date and how does one obtain updates without buying a whole new issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi Booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathi Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes the Board members also have the option of medical benefits.  In most cases, I think, if there is already a plan in place for the family through full time work of one or both spouses, they opt to not take the benefit plan.  If it is a case of no medical insurance for the board member or their family then I believe that they would, and should, accept the benefit.  Let&#039;s be clear, the &quot;job&quot; of a truly dedicated board member requires them to put huge amounts of hours in district business and in answering/helping students and families that call for assistance.  I just find it difficult to watch board meetings and listen to certain members talk about taking a 10% cut, $75.00 under their current stipend, as a show of good faith.  The fact that board members don&#039;t have enough interest to learn about being a board member just fries me.  If you are truly interested in representing students, employees and families then I believe it is incumbent upon you to become educated, read the education codes and make sure that your administrative staff are doing what is right and just for HUSD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the Board members also have the option of medical benefits.  In most cases, I think, if there is already a plan in place for the family through full time work of one or both spouses, they opt to not take the benefit plan.  If it is a case of no medical insurance for the board member or their family then I believe that they would, and should, accept the benefit.  Let&#8217;s be clear, the &#8220;job&#8221; of a truly dedicated board member requires them to put huge amounts of hours in district business and in answering/helping students and families that call for assistance.  I just find it difficult to watch board meetings and listen to certain members talk about taking a 10% cut, $75.00 under their current stipend, as a show of good faith.  The fact that board members don&#8217;t have enough interest to learn about being a board member just fries me.  If you are truly interested in representing students, employees and families then I believe it is incumbent upon you to become educated, read the education codes and make sure that your administrative staff are doing what is right and just for HUSD.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W. Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 00:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the subject of the recompense for Trustees...... do theyt also have ab expense account that we moght ask them to forgo?Heck, when I was working mileage on persoanl carf was based on portal to portal coverage.

I suppose it unfair to aske them to forget mileage when on HUSD Business, such as might be interpreted when they are compelled to attend Graduat=ions, and other school events. We could carry that a few steps further and eliminate meals that professional;ly carried in yo facilitate lengthy meetings etc..... Let &#039;em bring a bag lunch or dinner?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of the recompense for Trustees&#8230;&#8230; do theyt also have ab expense account that we moght ask them to forgo?Heck, when I was working mileage on persoanl carf was based on portal to portal coverage.</p>
<p>I suppose it unfair to aske them to forget mileage when on HUSD Business, such as might be interpreted when they are compelled to attend Graduat=ions, and other school events. We could carry that a few steps further and eliminate meals that professional;ly carried in yo facilitate lengthy meetings etc&#8230;.. Let &#8216;em bring a bag lunch or dinner?</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy's Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy's Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 00:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ms. Booth, you are a blessing! Please keep us informed. How true is that in addition to the stipend, board members have full health benefits? If so, how much money costs the district to pay for it? And, from what funds do they take this money to pay for such benefits? 
Mr. Kurhi, keep an eye on the bullies, or is it just one?
Thank you,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Booth, you are a blessing! Please keep us informed. How true is that in addition to the stipend, board members have full health benefits? If so, how much money costs the district to pay for it? And, from what funds do they take this money to pay for such benefits?<br />
Mr. Kurhi, keep an eye on the bullies, or is it just one?<br />
Thank you,</p>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 23:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And that&#039;s where it should have started.  There should always, in my opinion, be administrative cuts LONG before there are cuts that directly affect the education of the children.  After all, the classroom is the bottom line (without them there is no need for all the administration) and should be the last place where cuts are felt.  Everyone in the administration should take a hefty pay cut and all frills should be cut to the bone.  And if the current board members are being paid a stipend that is more than allowable by the code based on the number of children enrolled then that cut should be a no brainer and effective immediately.  Thanks to Kathi for bringing that to the attention of all.  

And while I&#039;m at it, thanks to Mr. Kurhi for mediating the personal attacks that keep so many people from posting their thoughts related to subjects posted ... just to avoid Mr. Kyle and his attacks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s where it should have started.  There should always, in my opinion, be administrative cuts LONG before there are cuts that directly affect the education of the children.  After all, the classroom is the bottom line (without them there is no need for all the administration) and should be the last place where cuts are felt.  Everyone in the administration should take a hefty pay cut and all frills should be cut to the bone.  And if the current board members are being paid a stipend that is more than allowable by the code based on the number of children enrolled then that cut should be a no brainer and effective immediately.  Thanks to Kathi for bringing that to the attention of all.  </p>
<p>And while I&#8217;m at it, thanks to Mr. Kurhi for mediating the personal attacks that keep so many people from posting their thoughts related to subjects posted &#8230; just to avoid Mr. Kyle and his attacks.</p>
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