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So, did you see the meeting?

By Eric Kurhi
Wednesday, September 22nd, 2010 at 11:51 pm in Crime, Hayward, Odds & Ends, Schools.

UPDATE: Here’s the story.

Started like a work of friction. Less than 10 minutes in, Board President Frumkin called a recess because Trustee Reynoso wanted to rebut Frumkin’s statement from district lawyers refuting Reynoso’s legal findings from the last meeting regarding the matter of Trustee Armas’ relatives working for the district. Get all that?

When they returned and Reynoso kept talking, they had HUSD security kinda awkwardly escort Reynoso out of the council chamber. Just outside the doors, neither HUSD security nor a uniformed HPD officer knew what to do about the situation. It was like “So someone’s breaking Roberts Rules of Order? Who, exactly, is supposed to do what about that?” At one point there was some question of whether the security guard who sits at the desk downstairs should be brought into the situation.

In the meantime, Reynoso went back to his seat. Then a sergeant and another officer arrived. During another recess, they met with the board behind closed doors and then the officers left and Reynoso again took his seat, this time for the duration of the meeting. He also was allowed to make his rebuttal statement without interruption.

I hit the officers up on their way out, they said Reynoso simply wasn’t committing an arrestable offense. I asked them if they’d ever had to respond to a call like that before and they said no, tonight was a first. So I guess they won’t be bringing the paddy wagon around for Roberts Rules violations or anything like that.

Public commenter Doug Ligebel struck a chord with the audience and garnered applause when he said, “I don’t want to see three uniformed police officers at a school board meeting when there have been 13 murders in Hayward this year.”

So I will be working on a story on the whole deal, but I figured I’d offer up a HayWord entry to comment on for those of you who saw the meeting. They also reviewed the final budget numbers for the past school year and heard a presentation on how Measure I projects are going, and they’re going very well.

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  • Sherry Blair

    Yes, I saw it. Thank you for creating a space for us to talk about it. Now let’s see if we can comment civilly enough so noone sends in the blog police!

  • qodrn

    Two comments.

    First, I am glad the police can’t arrest Mr. Reynoso or anyone else for speaking out during a meeting of which they are an elected representative.

    Secondly, I think this might go down as a win for Mr. Reynoso.

    Thirdly, we need some NEW board members.

  • qodrn

    If you go to http://www.microsite.smithsonianmag.com/museumday/ you can arrange to have a ticket emailed to you that will grant you two free tickets to a number of museums this Saturday. Just about every major museum is participating in this yearly event sponsored by the Smithsonian.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    What Eric didn’t report was what Mr. Liggabill said regarding how the board president was not conducting the meeting under the guidlines of Robert’s Rules of Order or Parliamentary procedure.

    He set Mr.Frumpkin straight about how to handle the aspect of a motion. He pointed out that the method currently used by Frumpkin was incorrect. According to the “rules” a motion is made, it is seconded and then the presiding officer asks for discussion, after all discussion is complete then and only then does the presiding officer “call for the question” and move to the vote.

    The HUSD board has used a “streamlined” method, skipping the call for discussion and moving directly to the vote. Thus eleminating the opportunity for thier nemisis, Reynoso, to comment/discuss the motion. The majority’s way of silencing the squeeky wheel.

    Surprisingly enough, Mr. Frumpkin listened and returned to his presiding duties from that point on and followed the rules. It’s amazing what a voice from the public can do. How sad that it took this gentleman to make Frumpkin do his job.

    Additionally, Mr. Ligabill went on to encourage Mr. Reynoso to continue to represent the “minority” view as was his right and duty.

    Nobody has to like what Mr. Reynoso has to say, but he has a right to say it; and if he speaks for only one other person out in the public, then he has done his duty as an elected official to represent ALL of the people.

    What happened to that part of Eric’s reporting?

  • Eric Kurhi

    I haven’t written a story yet, Kathi. Please hold your criticism about what is and isn’t in the story until said story exists. After that, have at it!

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Qodrn,

    Thank you for that information. It’s nice to see that the public can take advantage of such a wonderful offer. Some young people I know were just commenting on how expensive it was to visit some of the museums in our area. They will certainly take advantage of this opportunity.

  • Michael Moore

    The meltdown of civility that the HUSD has become will move to another act tonight as the bevy of challengers flock on the pond of public opinion and are joined by the two swans: Liz and Nadia. At the risk of being too operatic, there is real tragedy here that at least calls for a couple of arias, if not a full telemundo serial.

    Those of us with practical experience with Robert’s Rules understand that they are complex and organized for both the abridged version and then there is the tried and true which actually works.

    Kathi, your temperate comments on Doug’s offer to Trustee Frumkin and the other fourt are accurate and appropos. The key issue is not that Trustee Reynoso has a right to speak, the nexus is that no one has effectively spoken up to support the rule of order and of law until last night.

    This is exactly what is wrong with the HUSD. The focus is not on doing the job well. Listening to the drama on all sides has been painful. The threat to all is that none of the institutions that are here to protect our liberties played out until Police were summoned and acted and that a citizen with more than a bit of smarts stood up and said, grow up, act like adults and follow the rules.

    In my opinion, support for any of those in place today is foolish. The result will be the same. Let us hope that the debate tonight focuses on this potential for seminal change.

  • Sherry Blair

    Eric, I think Kathi was referring to your blog, not to your pending article.

    I’m with you all. I made myself watch it all (all that we could see from home.) The board is disfunctional and they have identified Reynoso as the identified patient. The problem belongs to alll of them, each with their own point of view. Yes, even the quiet ones. Each has a part to play, not just the president.

    This is a great lesson for Hayward and especially the kids. They see this kind of behavior on cable TV, on the internet, in their families and at school. If the board would accept it’s full responsibility both indivudally and collectively, they would solve one of our biggest problems in the world today. If we don’t learn the lesson of civility, rules and laws their is only violence left. If it involves all of us, so be it.

    People are in flight from HUSD now. Parents are fleeing with their children to other districts, the board president is fleeing off the board, and citizens are looking to the next election for the solution.

    The solution is here and now, folks.

    I didn’t plan to get involved with the schools again, but I hear the call now, loud and clear. If we don’t take care of this problem it won’t matter what the city does. Every neighborhood partnership should start with the schools.

    The first thing the board must do is tell us who they are. They can begin by taking the superintendent off the board, out of the board’s chair in their midst, off their voting list. She is an employee of theirs, not part of the board.

  • Sherry Blair

    Is there a way to preview comments so we can correct our own errors before they are made public?

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Welcome back Sherry Blair! You are correct, I was referring to Mr. Kuhri’s blog posting regarding the meeting last night. Since many of us out there use his postings to get the report rather than paying for the newspaper’s daily delivery.

    In numerous postings I have attempted to portray all aspects of board conduct. I have consistently commented on Mr. Reynoso’s mannerisms and agreed that they are not the best choice for delivering a message. Additonally, I have commented on the more “quiet” yet just as inappropriate actions of the rest of the board. All of them are conducting themselves in a disgusting manner. Unfortunately, just like the poor kid in school who cannot control outbursts, it is the squeeky wheel that gets all of the negative attention.

    Mr. Reynoso reminds me of the many students I have had the pleasure to represent as a Special Education advocate, mislabeled, misunderstood and maligned simply becdause they did not fit into the little box that some “authority” had insisted they must climb into. They, as he, have been ostracized, pointed at and shamed because they do not fit the norm.

    How boring life would be if all of us just adopted the phrase, “seen but not heard”. No more rebels, no more differing viewpoints, no more calls to action. No more change.

  • Sherry Blair

    Thanks Kathi. Mr Reynoso reminds me of us back in the day. We cared about our children,knew enough to know things weren’t right,knew that the schools were governed by law,took the time and effort to do the research, discovered that we were right and then charged in not realizing the full extent of the power held by those defending the status quo. I even thought they cared about the law. They were teaching our children weren’t they? They have rules in school don’t they? We were met by the same opposition and antagonism that Reynoso is meeting today. We parents had to get elected to the board (become the board) to even get them to listen at all. The superintendent violated the Brown act before every meeting “training the board” by telling irresponsible board members that we were wrong. We had to file grievances,call for state investigations and file law suits. Still board members didn’t do their homework and relied on County Council for answers to trick questions designed by the superintendent to get his way. The electorate was uninformed. Not much has changed.

    These times are more urgent than those. Violence and revolution are closer, you can hear the screaming. It’s all about bottom up change now. Scary stuff. We have discussions about whether or not we will survive. Old systems no longer work. People await 2012. Fear is everywhere. People brandish arms and misbehave and blame it on other people.

    We must all become the change now. The very thing that makes us different is what is needed now. But we must have structure in order to keep united while expressing our differences.

    Change is slow, except when it’s fast.

  • Sherry Blair

    Sorry for using up so much space. I was out walking in the garden after my last post and realized how glad I am that my children are not available anymore for the payback from the district and my grandchildren are out of the district and safe.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    For Sherry,

    Amen to your last paragraph in #12.

  • John W. Kyle

    All:

    On wonders why KB passes over the appropriate comment by Mr. Atmas dealing with Reynoso’s reliance on the writings of the California Attorny General.

    Had she turned up the volume rather than turning it down when Aramas speaks, even she might have appreciated the critique of Reynoso’s reliance on the Attorny generals ‘opinions’ as being “the law”!

    Again, Reynose ought take his speech to the District Attorny and file an attenbdent complaint!

    The stinger from the mouth of Reynos is that he maintains Mrs Armas was hired only seven months before the appointment of Jesus to the Board of Trustees.

    The fact is that Mrs. Armas was fully enployed with HUSD for something in excess of 17 or 18 years prior to the appointment about which Reynoso is so bitter.

    Reynoso’s revelation about the pay Mrs. Armas receieves has no merit. In Fact that is information he dug up from HUSD files and that is a probable violation of the Lady’s right to confidentiality.

    He went on to speculate about Mr. Armas’ Pension payment from the City….

    Is Reynoso bitter about the pittance he receives….??

    When Reynoso ‘s term is up and assumimng he has earned anb advanced degree, who will hire a person with his reputation for disputation?

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Mr. Kyle,

    The Attorney General of California is charged to render opinions regarding a variety of issues. His opinions are cited in many court cases involving many matters. The Attorney General’s opinion is considered to have standing, for you that means authority, until such time as a court of law rules it to be otherwise.

    Again, you missed the point. Mr. Reynoso was very clear that he knew that Mrs. Armas was a long term employee of the district. The issue for him was the fact that she had been promoted to a new and more “authoritative” position only 7 months prior to her husband being appointed. While it may be a technicality to you, it is in fact an area that needs to be questioned.

    I am so vey glad that you and Mr. Armas are on a first name basis. However, Mr. Armas was incorrect by stating that somehow the opinions rendered by the attorneys who work for the district have any more standing than that of the Attorney General. He is mistaken. Their opinion has no standing until and if a legal action is taken by someone else. Then, guess what? The presiding judge determines which opinion has standing and will prevail.

    So sorry that you needed this little lesson. Perhaps you ought stop speaking as if you have facts.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    If you are interested, look under the story announcing a candidates’ night tonight for my perspective of the evening. Please plan to attend one of the upcoming ones. It will help you to decide who you want to represent you and the children of Hayward.

  • John W. Kyle

    Miz Booth;

    Well, if your opinion of the Arrorney Generals ‘opinions’ are correct and if Reynoso is devoted to the point of idolation of Atty General, then he (Reynoso) ought easily be able to take his “itz da law attiude” down to the District Attorny’s office… file his complaint and use that to ride his chariot into the hall of legaleeze fame!

    Being such an expert why have you not urged him to do the right thing and take his case before the courts?

    He deserves your support! However.try explaing to your pal that Mrs. Armas was not hired just 7 months prior to Armas’ appointrment… that she had been steadily enployed from a time prior to your service on Persionnel Commission and that the promotion does not constitute a hire. Even if it did, a year has already passed, thus Aremas can not be denied election if he obtains election. so why try banging your head on that issue!

    Mr. RFitzpatrick, (retnoso’s pal ) bungled his way through the program. Reynoso won because election two years ago because his name was first on the ballot above all others. You kno3w, as well as anyone in this town that is why he was ewlected. Otherwise his ‘joint campaign with Fitzpatrick would have seen him lose in year 2008.

  • Sherry Blair

    I have been enjoying this blog a lot. I can see, though, that there is a problem here. It is very much like the problem the school district has. I don’t think I need to tell you that. If you look at the remarks that have been made, it looks to me like Kyle is the identified patient here. (Look up the term as it applies to dysfunctional families) In the case of the board, it is Reynoso. I might add that in the case of nations it is Ahmadinejad.

    There is a way to overcome this, but everyone has to respect each other including Kyle. The word respect is interesting. It actually means to take a new look. I have. I think, now that Kyle isn’t using caps the way he used to, that he is making more sense. But he is still personally attacking Booth. The rest of us are out here trying to figure out what to do.

    My suggestion is to avoid comments about each other and especially sarcasm. I know it’s hard to resist sometimes, but do it anyway because there is a higher purpose in communicating with each other. We all have feelings.

    Now I am not a therapist or mediator, but this is my best shot. If we don’t do this, things can escalate again and Eric’s going to have to be the blog police.

    No response needed. Just think about it. Thanks.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Mr.Kuhri,

    Thank you for the exteded article on the board meeting of September 21, 2010. I must advise you though that you referred to the meeting betwen Mr. Frumpkin, Mr.Reynoso and HPD as a closed session. It was not.

    If either of the two trustees told you it was then they were violating the Brown Act. According to the Brown Act a closed session may not take place unless and until the following happens:

    1. If it occurs during or after a regular meeting of the Board of Education the Presiding officer must announce that the Board is retiring to closed session.

    2. There must be a quarum of the Board of Education present for the meeting.

    3. Upon returning from closed session the presiding office must report any action taken.

    In the case of this meeting, Mr. Frumpkin announced a recess so that HE may meet with the HPD. A majority of the board did not join him and Mr. Reynoso. If by some chance a quarum did join them, then they violated the Brown Act by meeting “secretly”.

    While the above may seem to be a technicality, it is encumbent upon you to know and understand the Brown Act so that when you are present at a meeting you may report to the community any violations. It is your duty as the representative news group to help to keep the public informed and to keep the elected officials honest.

    I post this because above all else I believe in process and the law. When either is bent, I am bound by my own standards to point it out.

  • obama newage

    I am very happy that we have at least one elected official that is willing go get arrested just so our voices can be heard against corruption Mr. Reynoso you rock.

    Why does the district always cutoff the video when they goes to reses I was told that during the video cut Mr. Reynoso was stil talking and the NAACP was very rude on interrupting and not listening to what the law is when MR. Reynoso was trying to read it. Is the NACCP corrupt too? I stopped going to their meeting long ago cause of my suspicions. Finally we get someone to stand up against all this zest pool of clubhouse corrupt politics. Mr. Reynoso rocks.

    Mr. Kyle my congregation voted and helped Mr. Reynoso on his campaign like many other people not because he was the first on the ballot but because he was and still is the best sounding profesional educated board member on that board. Yes he is loud yes he is assertive yes he is all that, but he fights the corruption. Finally we get a breath of fresh air, yes to me it is a God send that give me hope to improve Hayward and he speaks exactly what he is going to do.. no fork tongue or words that say nothing finally we get someone that will not cave in to the corrupt people.

    Is a shame that so much of Armas family works for the district and some people think that is ok..shame shame I guess that those are the benefits of not following the law of the attorney general.

    Mr. Armas is over his head I heard him speak many times and he says nothing. Mr. Armas is incompetent for the board. He needs to join the other Ms. Simms that is over head too and both need to leave you know what I mean. We need to change that board make up and get people that follow the law. I wish Ms. Heredia was up for election too so we can get her out..she is way way way over her head I wonder did she go to college or get any training to be on that board I wish someone will train her on how to speak.

    I agree with you Ms. Booth the attorney general is highest legal opinion and like Mr. Reynoso is saying just because the board is breaking the law and the board attorney says is ok then is just like the city of Bell.

  • qodrn

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I am still amazed by the fact HUSD hired Mr. Aramas’ two kids. You would think the fact that HUSD contributes two salaries to the household would be enough. I think I would have been too embarrassed to get my kids hired as well.

    I am also growing concerned about the amounts HUSD is spending to hire outside contractors to teach. Doesn’t the HUSD employ teachers? How about hiring some of these to give extra help to students?

  • Eric Kurhi

    Kathi –

    What I originally wrote and submitted was, “After a closed meeting between school officials and police…” but that was changed somewhere along the editing line to “After a closed-session meeting between school officials and police …”

    One word, but it makes a difference. Sigh.

  • Lucy’s Mom

    Welcome Back Obama Newage!

    To All:
    This is an absolute shame. Voters, please take this into consideration on November 2nd.
    I would advise you to read Mrs. Booth comment on last night’s forum.
    I find Mr. Armas’s attitude regarding his children being employed for summer work very arrogant. It’s like he is telling us Haywardians: See, I can do no wrong!

    Perhaps the attendee that called Mr. Reynoso an “anarchist”, can comment next time about the passive aggressiveness displayed by other people that sit near Mr. Reynoso.

    I noticed some of the people that spoke against Mr. Reynoso had an item for approval on the agenda; I hope they were not trying to ingratiate with the other side of the board.

    Be discerning Hayward voters. Do we want more of the same? Simms and Armas should not be on that board.
    I do not see that Ms. Heredia has grown professionally with her position, I hope she moves on and finds her true calling. Advocating for academic achievement for all students is obviously not.
    Change is coming, I hope!
    Have a good weekend everyone.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Thank you Mr. Kuhri,

    While I now understand that error was made by the editing staff, if you haven’t already spoken with them about the absolute need to watch what they print, especially if it may give the impression that the Public Meeting Law was violated is a serious oversight.

    It should not be your job or my job to “catch” such errors. If they don’t know the Brown Act then I suggest that your manager(s) send them to a workshop so that they may become familiar with it.

    Again Thank you for the explanation. I told you I would be watching…and I did.

  • Hayward teacher

    Any comments on the district’s ending balance of over $11.5 million which is in addition to the required reserve of $7 million? What’s going on? Why were so many teachers laid off, rehired, and yet, class sizes are still astronomical?

  • ME Grad.

    To all of you who support Reynoso. You need your head examened. He is the cause of all the problems on the board. if you think he is not you dont know/understand the job of the board and should learn what it is about and learn why he is so terrible to Hayward kids, and Hayward schools. Thanks to him HUSD is a laughing stock, and I am thinking of starting a petition of recall for him! And I know I can get the signautres!

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Are you aware of how much a recall election would cost HUSD? I believe if it is in a non-election cycle that it would be an unjustified expense. Remember whether it is Reynoso or any other member of the board, they have but one vote. So at this point I don’t believe that anything Reynoso has put forth has resulted in a formal action of the board that has directly impacted students or the budget.

  • John W. Kyle

    All

    Suddenly, Obama Newage in item 20 above, becomes articulate. Uses no errors in spelling, uses the ‘king’s englich quite well and above all else, modifies the ‘nom de plume’ in a change 0f appearance and style. !

    A ghost writer ? If the original user of that ‘nom de pluime is not careful, one or two more slips, might aid true identification …… about which I am close to revealing!

    I suspect the individual to be a daughter!

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    YAWN….WHO THE H… CARES WHO OBAMA NEWAGE IS BESIDES YOU…YAWN.

  • John W. Kyle

    Ms.K.B Yawn;

    Am flatered by the fact that my presence ANNOYS YOU.

    BE SURE TO ATTEND TONIGHT’S OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR CANDIDATES. wE WAIT DESPERATELY FOR YOUR OPINION ON WHO IS FLOUNDERING ETC, ETC.

    BE SURE YOU TAKE ACCURATE NOTES AND WORK THE INFORMATION INTO WHAT YOU HAVE DETERMINED, IN YOUR OWN MIND, JUST WHAT CAN BE WOVEN INTO YOUR OWN HISTORIC VERSION OF husd h I -ST…RY zzz z.z..z

  • Norm D. Plume

    I for one am glad Kathi Booth and others are able to attend the forums and form their opinions based on the candidates themselves and what they have to say. That’s more than can be said for other members of the community who follow the rubber stampers like sheep and never question their actions. Or make decisions based on knowledge of facts unrelated to a person’s ability to contribute to the improvement of HUSD.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    To All,
    Took the night off from candidates’ nights, but I am planning on attending the one at Westminster Hills. These groups actually allow more than one or two questions from the audience. Their candidates’ nights are very interesting and enjoyable. If anyone goes tonight please leave your impressions for the rest of us.

    For KILW,
    YAWN IS ALL I CAN SAY….YAWN

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    fOR kILLE,
    When did I say that your presence annoys me????? I don’t recall posting that at all. Your presence or lack thereof at any public meeting means absolutely nothing to me. I focus on the topic, the presenters, the candidates or whatever. YAWN

  • John W. Kyle

    mS. BOOTH;

    WHEN YOU BEGAN YOUR ASSERTIONS THAT ALL WOULD BE WELL IN HAYWARD, IF HAYWARD JUST CAST IT SELF UPON YOUR EVERY UTTERENCE, YOU SIDED WITH THAT WOMAN WHO DESCRIBED HERSELF WITH THE NOM DE PLUME “oBAMA NEW AGE, SIDED WITH HER AS SHE SPEWED VENOM UPON THE REPUTATIONS OF MR. ARMAS’

    QUICKLY YOU DESCRIBED ME AS A ‘BULLY’ WENT ON TO WRITE HOW IWAS INTERFERING WITH YOUR FAMILY, PUT YOURSELF UP AS THE EXPERT ON MUCH WHEN DISCUSSIONG OR MAKING REPRESENTATIONS ABOUT SOME GOOD PEOPLE WITHIN THE husd ADMINISTRATIO0N.
    ETC ETTC ETC,

    BUT IF MY PRESENCE DOES NOT ANNOY YOU….. WHY DO YOU YAWN SO MUCH….?????? DELIBERATE YAWNS IN PUBLIC IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE DESCRIBED AS INDICATION THAT YOU ARE IN POSSESSION OF GOOD MANNERS.

    THAT YAWN BIT DOES NOT ANNOY ME…. WHAT ANNOYS ME ABOUT YOU IS THAT DESPITE YOUR SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE COURSES REQUIRED FOR YOUR LAW DEGREE……yOU DID NOT TAKEW THE BAR EXAM….. WHICH io FREELY INTERPRET AS ADMISSION THAT YOU LACKED CONFIDENCE….
    BUT NOW REPERSENT YOURSELF AS AN EXPAERT ON SO MUCH….. WHAT SET ME ON THAT THOUGHT WAS YOUR REFUSAL TO EXPRESS UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FREEDOMM OF SPEECH AND LICENSE. YOU BUDDIED UO TO OBAMA NEW AGE…. WHO BY TTHE WAY DID NOT WRITE THE LAST ENTRY ATTRIBUTED TO HER!
    FRANKLY I DISMISS YOU AND JUST ABOUT YOUR EVERY UTTERANCE.

    YOU YAWN SO MUCH IN PUBLIC…. ILL MANNERED YOU ARE little Lady.

    As to your ‘friend’ O’bama new age’ who was it that taught her that littlE trick of lending out your coded access to the blog. if not you?
    tHE LAST ENTRY ATTRIBUTED TO O’BAMA NEW AGE WAS NOT THAT OF THE ORIGINAL. THE ORIGINAL LACKED OPPORTUNITY FOR A DECENT EDUXCATION WHICH SHE ATTRIBUTED TO HER BEING RAISED ON A ‘CROP SGARING FARM’ IN THE SOUTH. i HAD A GOOD FRIEND IN THE aRMY WHO SHARED HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN THE STATE OF LOUISIANA. wHAT i COULD HNOT ACCEPT ABOUT oO’BAMA NEW AGE’ WAS HER CONSTANT HARANGUE IN WHICH SHE ATTEMPTED O ROB OTHERS OF THEIR HARD EARNED REPUTATION NOR RECOGNIOZE ANYTHING GOOD IN mR. aRMAS PARTICULARLY. o’BAMA NEW age did not write that last entry!

    Good night… yawn often!!

  • observer

    Enough already….the horse is long dead. Back to the business of taking care of the children instead of acting like them. Please!!

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Kile:

    You are so filled with venom and assumptions. Where in the world would you get the idea of my “teaching” Obama newage anything. If you are referring to my husband’s posting to you, then you clearly didn’t understand his comments. Why on God’s earth would he create a personal “access code” for this or any other blog when he had and has no intentions of continuing any postings. The fact that I allowed him to identify himself and his purpose for using my “code” was sufficient. Stop with your blathering.
    Only you and whatever supernatural powers you think you have, has decided that someone else used her “coded access”. Furthermore who cares if Obama newage did. Only you.

    Thank you for dismissing me…I do not care one bit if you find my postings informative or interesting or anything else. Your opinion of me matters not. You pompous old fool.

  • John W. Kyle

    Mrs. Booth;

    Ancient adage…..” when guity of something, accuse the other guy !” That pretty well sums up your effort here!

  • John W. Kyle

    To all setious Blog readers and contributors;

    One of my concerns, expressed here in recent past, was the HUSD report on truancy. Recall that the report indicated a major jump in the rate of truancy from school year 2007 – 2008 at approximately 25% which now sees an ASTOUNDING 49% in school year 2009 – 2010 !

    When placing that statistic on the blog, I went further and posted the truancy data on a school by school basis. What grabbed my eye was that in the elementary grades, the overall rate was approximately 35% with some schools reaching a number nearing – 45%)

    I also posted some data obtained from the California Department of Corrections which revealed that of those released on parole in year 2005, that their rate of recidivism, in the first calendar year after their release, was reputed to be 40% and by the end of the third year 59% had been sent back! That release of information apparently was an effort to refute information released but undertaken by a private research firm in Southern California, to the effect that the recidivism rate exceeded 65% and might have reached 70%.

    The State released the figures for just one group released and monitored over three years, However since the State Parole system does not monitor any parolee after completion of the third year of release, the private research sponsors might be in possession of a more accurate rate of recidivism.

    What has that to do with HUSD ?

    Consider that since great bulk of those released into Alameda County, on parole live in Oakland, with the second highest number occurring in Hayward and having made the assumption that a large number of paroled individuals are married with youngsters or supporting children from a failed marriage, that the school system is involved in some fashion with students guided ( or unguided ) by a paroled parent.

    Should the Town Hall meeting concept come to fruition, it might be possible to find men and women presently uninvolved with HUSD, whose life experiences lead them to become active in some sort of guidance /counseling with students not presently attending school on a regular basis. Would at least a few retired police officers guide such a group?

    Of course, we could go the other way, and let HUSD create a contract with experts, who after earning a substantial sum, might not think of anything other than permanent hiring of others on a salaried basis and who would not approach it with the zeal of a person possessed of the simple guiding factors of Hope and Charity as well as Love of kids. Are we totally inhibited by the lack of money?

    Since the money isn’t there, we need serious thought given to installation of ‘enthusiasm’ which ought develop with a Town Hall Meeting. That would require effort to ensure creation of a meeting attended by those whose attitude is basically directed to creative solutions, supported by desire for involvement!

    There are other ideas which need a find of positive expression by intelligent observers of the HUSD problem.

    Readers of the Hayward Blog, are you or are you not possessed of a creative mind or are you limited to negative criticism?

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    YAWN

  • John W. Kyle

    mS. yAWN!

    your liteary effort of October 1st at 8.55 am brought back a mental image of the stage actress Shirley Booth…. sitting at the kitchen table, coffee cup at hand with coffee spilled into the saucer chenille robe over men’s pajama’s…. her excellence in acting included a yawn……

    YAWN FOR JOHN ? AT 8:55a.m. OR WAS THAT THE NORDIC- SWEDUSH PRONUNICTUION FOR THE IRISH VERSION OF JOHN…. SEAN…. PRONOUNED SHa-awn

    It was your ‘yawn’ that called to mined shirley Booth, sitting at the kitcen table in her shenile robe, drawing on another cigarette that your yawn brought forth of that Movie….’come back little Sheba’

    All the wotld awaits your next yanw, oh princees, of the pro;opmged delay at the kitchen table… with coffee in the saucer as wll as the cup, cigarette in hand, smoke wafting through the kitchen….

    yawn on, yawn on oh princess of chain smokers!

    Perhaps today you will YET write sometging proactive on behalf of kids at HUSD ????? after another smoke?

  • Monica Ruiz

    Have the new guidelines taken affect yet?

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Guess those new guidelines haven’t started. Oh well.

    Went to the candidates’ night at Westminster Hills. Ms. Bruenner did a very good job, she addressed the lack of staffing and lack of compliance currently in the Special Education Department; Mr. McGee was very good, particularly when he stressed the fact that there is really no need to use outside consultants, who know nothing of our student population. He was very strong on tapping the talent that exists right here in the teaching staff. Ms. Sims was a no show. Annette Walker was impressive. Mr. Armas was his old self. All of the above is just my observation and opinion of course.

  • John W. Kyle

    Booth.

    Nothing ‘pro-active’ ? What path to recovery, using volunteer assistance outside the parent group,do you advise which would lead to HUSD recovery? How woukld you advise seeking volunteers ?

    Yawning ain’t enuff !

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Like you would support anything I may suggest. What do you take me for a complete fool??? Ask someone whom you admire, oops that would only be you or Jesus Armas. Just speak to the issues John Kyle. You waste time and space with your little snipes. Here’s a big YAWN for your morning.

  • Lancer

    When a question is asked, it is not always answered. I noticed that at many of the forums. Some of these candidates are not answering the questions they are being asked! And there are some staged questions. Ex. “What is one thing you have researched in the district and what is your solution to it?”

    At the next forum it would be nice for the candidates who have not been answering the questions, to answer them.

  • John W. Kyle

    Ms. Booth;

    In all your submissions I do not recall a single, pro-active idea originating with you. Nor do I recall any btag by you rexcept for your service on Personnel Commission.

    Is there not a single new idea that you espouse for improving HUSD’s condition ….??

    You disdain seeking volunteers to respond to student ‘no shows’ due to no shows because of truancy and the unreported transence……

    You oppose Town Hall Meetings, that just might bring in some new interest in HUSD Schools…… You oppose.
    the proposal for ‘Parents Performancew bonds which would catch parental attention and serve to effectively reduce the horrific loss of ADA money…

    Are you at all able to contribute pro-active ideas which would lead to noticeable change in API scores any any other of the complexities facing the School district’s needs…..

    You obviously have a grievance against Mr. Armas yet on one occasion you suiggested that he be made Superintendent….

    I begin to think that you are a secret fan and supporter of Audie Bock……. whom some think to be more interested in ‘running for office’… any office as long as it satisfies her need for attention.

    Has you any zeal for facts, you might have paid attention to the great good Aremas acheived by his involvment with the creation of Burbank School.

    Mr. Armas is astute…. I took the time to point out the financial flaw in the recent lease of a portion of the Darwin site which due to irrgeularity in shape (Perimeter) of the leased area of thea 9 + Acres. That transaction effectively negates the opportunity to sell/lease of the remaider site….. he phoned to advise appreciatuion of that analysis by me… then went on to recite for or five other items he has stuck his nose intio….. which when brought to atten of other Trustees and Supt. Duran brought forth an annoouncement that ‘real estate’ assets will be provided better management…. beklieve ne the man has some greta ideas which had they been in place as result of more acuteness in the past management ‘team’ would have place HUSD beyond the reach of State Take over.

    You harp on the hire of Armas’ children ! The two jobs were highly limited in terms of duration… dis you not hear Ms. Benson’s explanation of the p[redicament faced by HUSD in terms of time as well as brevity of the jobs?

    If you continue to ‘car’ about what you believe are Mr. Armas’ faults may I suggest that you become a bit more introspective ?

    Continuance of your jibes is beneath you as well as an asault upon the memory of those who aided your education…. parents, teachers etc. You bring disdain rather than admiration with your ‘Yawn’

    Pick up the Bible and do a bit of reading now and then…. or perhaps a Theological treatise that aids understanding such as Hope, Charity etc….

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Mr. Kyle,

    When you have given as much volunteer time to HUSD as I have you may then be able to criticize my efforts in volunteerism. Again, let me remind you that you know nothing about me or my endeavors regarding HUSD, except for those your jaded imagination seem to
    conjure up. The fact that I don’t choose to recite them on this blog is my decision. I am content to know that many parents, teachers and students in HUSD are proud to call me friend and advocate.

    Again let me remind you that I do not have to defend my criticism of Mr. Armas. While he may be a very astute gentlelman, astuteness does not prepare one to serve on the board of education, nor does it command respect or admiration. As I have stated many times before he is but one vote and like it or not Mr. Kyle , if the dynamic of the board changes, he may find himself in the minority. That sir is just how life happens. No one person has that much power on a board of education. Any member of this community that places all their apples in one trustee’s pocket is foolish.

    Now take a deep breath and begin your attack on this entry.

  • Cheryl

    Dear Ms. Kathi Booth and Mr. John Kyle,

    Your personal dislike of each other is taking up way too much space on this blog. I am finally losing interest in seeing what has been posted here. Can you please stop arguing and start acting like adults, as many people have already asked. Ms. Booth, perhaps you can use this as an opportunity to practice not always having to have the last word.

    Thank you.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    To Cheryl,

    So sorry to have been so much of a space taker. I have attempted to provide information and answers to questions from others who post on this blog. Unfortunately, try as I might it is difficult to ignore constantly being denegraded by someone who truly knows nothing about me. I will make every effort to follow your advice. I hope if I slip that you will understand. I would not like to have you stop reading or contributing to the blog. Every person has something to offer. Again thank you for the advice. I hope this is not interpreted as being my attempt to have the last word. It certainly is not intended to be.

  • Monica Ruiz

    Cheryl I agree with your blog.