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	<title>Comments on: New HUSD Board President: Lisa Brunner</title>
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		<title>By: John W. Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W. Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ALL

A GREAT CHRISTMAS CAROL that baffles many, needs a bit of explanation.

What in the world do Leaping lords, French hens, swimming swans and especially the partridge that refuses to come out of the pear tree, have to do with Chtistmas?

Well, from 1558 until 1829, Roman Catholics in England were not permitted to practice their faith openly. Deuring that era, someone wrote this carol as a catechism ( a summary of religious doctrine,) in song form for young Catholics. There are two levels of meaning, the surface meaning plus a hidden meaning known only to members of the faith. Each element in the carol gas a ccode word for a religiois reality which children could remember.

The partridge in the pear tree was … Jesus Christ.

Two turtle doves were the old and the new testament.

Three French hens stood for faith hope and love.

Four calling birds were the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke &amp; John

Five golden rings recalled the Torah or law, the first five books of the Old Testament.

Six geese a-laying stood for the six days of creation.

Seven swans a-swimming represented the sevenfold gifts of the Holy Spirit ..  Prophesy, Serving, Teaching, Exhortation, Contribution, Leadership and Mercy.

The eight maids a-milking were the eight beatitudes.

Nine ladies dancing. Were the nine fruits of the Holy Spirit… Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness and Self Control.

Ten lord’s a leaping were the Ten Commandments.

The eleven pipers piping stood for the eleven faithful disciples.

The twelve drummers drumming symbolized the twelve points of belief in the Apostles Creed.

MAY THE PEACE OF CHRIST SETTLE ON ALL, ESPECIALLY UPON CHILDREN OF THE WORLD WHO LACK EDUCATION! ( AS WELL AS FOOD, CLOTHING, A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS AND ATTENTIVE GUIDANCE BY EMPLOYED PAREHNTS!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL</p>
<p>A GREAT CHRISTMAS CAROL that baffles many, needs a bit of explanation.</p>
<p>What in the world do Leaping lords, French hens, swimming swans and especially the partridge that refuses to come out of the pear tree, have to do with Chtistmas?</p>
<p>Well, from 1558 until 1829, Roman Catholics in England were not permitted to practice their faith openly. Deuring that era, someone wrote this carol as a catechism ( a summary of religious doctrine,) in song form for young Catholics. There are two levels of meaning, the surface meaning plus a hidden meaning known only to members of the faith. Each element in the carol gas a ccode word for a religiois reality which children could remember.</p>
<p>The partridge in the pear tree was … Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>Two turtle doves were the old and the new testament.</p>
<p>Three French hens stood for faith hope and love.</p>
<p>Four calling birds were the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke &amp; John</p>
<p>Five golden rings recalled the Torah or law, the first five books of the Old Testament.</p>
<p>Six geese a-laying stood for the six days of creation.</p>
<p>Seven swans a-swimming represented the sevenfold gifts of the Holy Spirit ..  Prophesy, Serving, Teaching, Exhortation, Contribution, Leadership and Mercy.</p>
<p>The eight maids a-milking were the eight beatitudes.</p>
<p>Nine ladies dancing. Were the nine fruits of the Holy Spirit… Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness and Self Control.</p>
<p>Ten lord’s a leaping were the Ten Commandments.</p>
<p>The eleven pipers piping stood for the eleven faithful disciples.</p>
<p>The twelve drummers drumming symbolized the twelve points of belief in the Apostles Creed.</p>
<p>MAY THE PEACE OF CHRIST SETTLE ON ALL, ESPECIALLY UPON CHILDREN OF THE WORLD WHO LACK EDUCATION! ( AS WELL AS FOOD, CLOTHING, A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS AND ATTENTIVE GUIDANCE BY EMPLOYED PAREHNTS!)</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2010/12/08/new-husd-board-president-lisa-brunner/comment-page-2/#comment-6656</link>
		<dc:creator>John W. Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Booth;

Atta girl.... always jumping in with an inane comment.

larn to schpell hatred ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booth;</p>
<p>Atta girl&#8230;. always jumping in with an inane comment.</p>
<p>larn to schpell hatred ?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi Booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathi Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr.Kyle,
Please review your own comments before you accuse someone of living a life filled with hatered. This really smacks of the pot calling the kettle black.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.Kyle,<br />
Please review your own comments before you accuse someone of living a life filled with hatered. This really smacks of the pot calling the kettle black.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2010/12/08/new-husd-board-president-lisa-brunner/comment-page-2/#comment-6653</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, may you live long and prosper and all the blessings of the Lord upon you and your family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, may you live long and prosper and all the blessings of the Lord upon you and your family.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2010/12/08/new-husd-board-president-lisa-brunner/comment-page-2/#comment-6652</link>
		<dc:creator>John W. Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boor Moore

Life is tough. You remain, despite your puffery, a shallow individual!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boor Moore</p>
<p>Life is tough. You remain, despite your puffery, a shallow individual!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2010/12/08/new-husd-board-president-lisa-brunner/comment-page-2/#comment-6651</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Qodrn, the actions of Pius, both when he was the Papal legate to Germany before and during the rise of the Nazi&#039;s, as well as his time as Pope during the war is shameful.  He never condemned the Nazi party, the priests who continued to act as priest-Nazi&#039;s and provided the escape support for Nazi&#039;s who fled at the end of the war.  He did not do the right thing.  For the church to have elevated him to the papacy is flat out wrong.  He never spoke out about the camps, the genocide, the euthanasia of children and the mentally ill.  He allowed and supported evil throughout Europe.  The church has done too little to atone for these sins.  

The present Pope should have declined the honor as atonement for the actions of the church in the past.  He should have never been allowed to rise in the Holy See as he has.  The church should have purged all remnants of the Nazi state a long time ago.  That has happened now, by virtue of the fact that the Pope is part of the last vestiges of those originals.  The Hitlerjugend was youth outreach of the Nazi party.  Its leaders were both executed by the authorities and imprisoned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Qodrn, the actions of Pius, both when he was the Papal legate to Germany before and during the rise of the Nazi&#8217;s, as well as his time as Pope during the war is shameful.  He never condemned the Nazi party, the priests who continued to act as priest-Nazi&#8217;s and provided the escape support for Nazi&#8217;s who fled at the end of the war.  He did not do the right thing.  For the church to have elevated him to the papacy is flat out wrong.  He never spoke out about the camps, the genocide, the euthanasia of children and the mentally ill.  He allowed and supported evil throughout Europe.  The church has done too little to atone for these sins.  </p>
<p>The present Pope should have declined the honor as atonement for the actions of the church in the past.  He should have never been allowed to rise in the Holy See as he has.  The church should have purged all remnants of the Nazi state a long time ago.  That has happened now, by virtue of the fact that the Pope is part of the last vestiges of those originals.  The Hitlerjugend was youth outreach of the Nazi party.  Its leaders were both executed by the authorities and imprisoned.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2010/12/08/new-husd-board-president-lisa-brunner/comment-page-2/#comment-6649</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prester John, I take offense to your painting me as a Paisleyite.  I am an unrepentant Republican, a supporter of 32 counties and an avowed IRB supporter and a venerator of the Sixteen.  Shame on you.  Peace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prester John, I take offense to your painting me as a Paisleyite.  I am an unrepentant Republican, a supporter of 32 counties and an avowed IRB supporter and a venerator of the Sixteen.  Shame on you.  Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prester John, the US government provided sanctuary and jobs to hundreds, perhaps thousands of Nazi&#039;s after the War.  The actions of the government are shameful and were hidden or at least disguised for a long time.  The contributions of Werner von Braun and his team to the development of the NASA are hardly outweighed by von Braun&#039;s reliance and support of Slave Labor at Peenemunde.  If Fred was Hitler Youth I would have hoped that America would have refused his family a visa.  If he was not Hitlerjugend, then I am pleased with his service to America and his adopted country.  

You know nothing of me or my work as a volunteer.  Nor will I share it with you.   Your comments on your solutions to Haywards problems are yours and unique.  Good for you.  Your zeal and enthusiasm is admirable, I guess.  I am sure your outreach in to the community is of great notice and is well respected by all.  

Perhaps it is true, as you said, that Hayword in your opinion is of no purpose to the community.  But, this is America, and both you and I may speak.  Merry Christmas.

Peace unto you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prester John, the US government provided sanctuary and jobs to hundreds, perhaps thousands of Nazi&#8217;s after the War.  The actions of the government are shameful and were hidden or at least disguised for a long time.  The contributions of Werner von Braun and his team to the development of the NASA are hardly outweighed by von Braun&#8217;s reliance and support of Slave Labor at Peenemunde.  If Fred was Hitler Youth I would have hoped that America would have refused his family a visa.  If he was not Hitlerjugend, then I am pleased with his service to America and his adopted country.  </p>
<p>You know nothing of me or my work as a volunteer.  Nor will I share it with you.   Your comments on your solutions to Haywards problems are yours and unique.  Good for you.  Your zeal and enthusiasm is admirable, I guess.  I am sure your outreach in to the community is of great notice and is well respected by all.  </p>
<p>Perhaps it is true, as you said, that Hayword in your opinion is of no purpose to the community.  But, this is America, and both you and I may speak.  Merry Christmas.</p>
<p>Peace unto you.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2010/12/08/new-husd-board-president-lisa-brunner/comment-page-2/#comment-6640</link>
		<dc:creator>John W. Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 05:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boor Moore;

Are you related by blood or narriage to the Rev Paisley the Presbyterian Minister who never refered to the pope as old slipper foot! That gentleman sent his  drun bangers and orange flags into Catholic areas of Ulster for the simple reason of antagonizing or  Terrorizing Catholic populatiohn as part of celebrating the battle of the Boyne, which had occurred hundreds of years earlier.  Good old King Henry knocked off Cromwell as well as wives...... and is fondly remembered. Right?

Hitler Youth was a prewar organization which trapped young men into wehrmact on a supposedly volunteer basis.

You refuse acceptance of my tale of &#039;Fred&#039; the natuarlized citizen, who as a boy in his native Germany in the early period of 1945, enjoyed the experience similar to that of the Pope. He, as a naturalized US citizen was &#039;drafted&#039; from Oakland into the same Armored unit with me. Fred took a hard time at Ft Knox, from that vast pool of intellect enamaniting from East Ky, (in exchange for three hots and a cot), for just being German. In truth the man had escaped a reign of terror near the end of the war when trapped into the equivalent of the &#039;presed man&#039; from days of English navy history. Fred escaped and hid out, shedding his uniform as he went from one home to another until reaching his own &#039;village&#039; Had he been caughr he would have died on the spot. The pope was pressed into an anti-aircraft battery and had no such opportunity. You Foolish man! You have failed your direct benefactors, parents, teachers etc!

You behave precisely as did that dreadful Presbyterian Minister Ian Paisly in Ulster back in the 50&#039;s through 80&#039;s. That man could never use a descrpition of the Pope save by that which he frequently used ...&#039;old slipper foot&#039;.

I urge you to consider your position..... you have absolutely nothing to gain by living a life dedicated to hatred. Fella, hatred drips off your remarks.

Review your contributions to the blog.... when did you contribute at least a &#039;trial balloon&#039; i.e. a pro-active thought in which the thread of an idea was contained and in which thougt and contribution from the group, might have been picked up, developed and found usheful as at least part of a solution.

You abjure volunteerism which has been one of the great strengths of this country. Which raises this question.... how would your worth to the School District, the City or any larger part of the community ever be measured and accepted as a matter drawing admiration?

You obviously have had benefit of education but you abuse it! Worse yet, you dishonor those who made it possible for you to gain access to education.

Ergo, you have no value to yourself! Think about that, if possible!

Fortunately your viewpoint is not widespread.

The letter probably goes in the mail to ANG Corpotrate HQ. tommorrow! Perhaps it will conclude that the Hayword blog serves no purpose in the community!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boor Moore;</p>
<p>Are you related by blood or narriage to the Rev Paisley the Presbyterian Minister who never refered to the pope as old slipper foot! That gentleman sent his  drun bangers and orange flags into Catholic areas of Ulster for the simple reason of antagonizing or  Terrorizing Catholic populatiohn as part of celebrating the battle of the Boyne, which had occurred hundreds of years earlier.  Good old King Henry knocked off Cromwell as well as wives&#8230;&#8230; and is fondly remembered. Right?</p>
<p>Hitler Youth was a prewar organization which trapped young men into wehrmact on a supposedly volunteer basis.</p>
<p>You refuse acceptance of my tale of &#8216;Fred&#8217; the natuarlized citizen, who as a boy in his native Germany in the early period of 1945, enjoyed the experience similar to that of the Pope. He, as a naturalized US citizen was &#8216;drafted&#8217; from Oakland into the same Armored unit with me. Fred took a hard time at Ft Knox, from that vast pool of intellect enamaniting from East Ky, (in exchange for three hots and a cot), for just being German. In truth the man had escaped a reign of terror near the end of the war when trapped into the equivalent of the &#8216;presed man&#8217; from days of English navy history. Fred escaped and hid out, shedding his uniform as he went from one home to another until reaching his own &#8216;village&#8217; Had he been caughr he would have died on the spot. The pope was pressed into an anti-aircraft battery and had no such opportunity. You Foolish man! You have failed your direct benefactors, parents, teachers etc!</p>
<p>You behave precisely as did that dreadful Presbyterian Minister Ian Paisly in Ulster back in the 50&#8242;s through 80&#8242;s. That man could never use a descrpition of the Pope save by that which he frequently used &#8230;&#8217;old slipper foot&#8217;.</p>
<p>I urge you to consider your position&#8230;.. you have absolutely nothing to gain by living a life dedicated to hatred. Fella, hatred drips off your remarks.</p>
<p>Review your contributions to the blog&#8230;. when did you contribute at least a &#8216;trial balloon&#8217; i.e. a pro-active thought in which the thread of an idea was contained and in which thougt and contribution from the group, might have been picked up, developed and found usheful as at least part of a solution.</p>
<p>You abjure volunteerism which has been one of the great strengths of this country. Which raises this question&#8230;. how would your worth to the School District, the City or any larger part of the community ever be measured and accepted as a matter drawing admiration?</p>
<p>You obviously have had benefit of education but you abuse it! Worse yet, you dishonor those who made it possible for you to gain access to education.</p>
<p>Ergo, you have no value to yourself! Think about that, if possible!</p>
<p>Fortunately your viewpoint is not widespread.</p>
<p>The letter probably goes in the mail to ANG Corpotrate HQ. tommorrow! Perhaps it will conclude that the Hayword blog serves no purpose in the community!</p>
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		<title>By: qodrn</title>
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		<dc:creator>qodrn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 03:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Out of curiosity, Mr. Moore, what exactly would you have had either Pope Pius or the current pope do differently than they did?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity, Mr. Moore, what exactly would you have had either Pope Pius or the current pope do differently than they did?</p>
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