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Threat of state takeover subsides, for now, for HUSD

Here’s our story on HUSD’s latest budget report.

Side note: Wednesday night’s special meeting went very smooth.

And in addition to the new board lineup, there’s a new county fiscal adviser,  (oops, fixed this online and ran a correx but didn’t fix it here) Damon Smith, the new assistant superintendent of business services of ALCOE, who seems to be a pretty straight-forward kinda guy. Even dialog about the district having to pay for such an adviser was a very fact-oriented exchange.

Eric Kurhi

  • Michael Moore

    Eric, terrific column. Well written and incisive. The present trustees have a great deal of work that they need to do if the district is to remain free of state receivership. You have stated the issues well. I believe that short of a fiscal miracle, the end of local control of the HUSD is about to end. Given the history, that may not be so bad.

  • qodrn

    In your paper I believe our new governor just told schools to expect some mid year adjustments. The state is supposedly way in the hole. I would suggest in the future all state entitlement programs be for a specific period of time and have limits on the amount of people that can apply. You can’t finance anything with out limits.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    I am a bit confused by the information contained in this article; not because of Eric’s reporting, but because the circumstances seem to be always changing in HUSD.
    First: It was my understanding that HUSD already had two fiscal advisors assigned by the County Superintendent. Is Mr. Damon Smith a new one replacing the other two, is he an addition, what is his fuction as opposed to the two others? Is his fee for service in additon to the current fiscal advisors, does it replace them? How is it that we must pay additional “salary/fees” when our financial circumstances are so dire? Does this not defeat the purpose and add to our financial woes? Why doesn’t the county pick up the cost?
    ***//ERIC IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS PLEASE PROVIDE THEM. IF YOU DON’T THEN PLEASE GET THE ANSWERS. I cannot believe that I am the only person who wonders such things.

    Second: If we are in a shortfall, how do we, once again, miraculously have a surplus? It seems that each year there seems to be a sudden finding of extra/surplus money…Yet we are still in crisis mode.

    I do have a novel suggestion for perhaps saving/creating some money…Since HUSD is looking into selling or leasing surplus property, why not relocate the district offices to the Adult School campus and sell the current building and site? There is adequate space, certainly adequate parking to accommodate staff and visitors on the Adult School site. It seems to me that the HUSD headquarters’ piece of land and its building is prime real estate since it is so close to the county court house, and other county, state and federal offices. Just a thought.

  • Duane

    Kathi — I have many of the same questions that you do. However, if I am not mistaken, the building in which the district offices are housed are rented and not owned by the district. Even so, it would be a significant savings, you are right. I myself have suggested to the district the same idea of moving into the adult school during previous budget “crisis”.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Duane,
    I believe that the district owns the land and the building. The annex was the original district offices and then they built the new structure to expand their office/service area.

  • Eric Kurhi

    Thanks for reading the print edition of the Review, Kathi! Smith’s name was dropped from the online version because I had to revise that graf and put a correction in today’s paper. He is not a fiscal adviser, rather the assistant superintendent of business services for the Alameda County Office of Education, and was at the meeting speaking on behalf of Sheila Jordan. As for why the district has to pay for the advisers, the answer is pretty much, “because that’s the way it works.” If a district fails to balance the books and the county comes in to help, the school district has to pay for that help even if it is imposed. The county is not in the business of providing pro bono fiscal advice.

    To expand on the story, the shortfall was predicted based on what the district thought would be given by the state, mainly in terms of ADA funds. When the state provided more ADA funds than expected in its final budget, the current shortfall was eliminated. There were other factors, too — I’m not at my desk and don’t carry my notes home — but the ADA was the main one. The current budget is balanced with the aid of ARRA funds and use of money that’s supposed to go elsewhere, neither of which can be used to balance the budget indefinitely. So troubles continue.

  • Sherry Blair

    I think you are right about the district owning its building. I was wondering though what they use the board room for if they don’t meet there. How much space is available?

    I sm not so sure about moving them to the adult school. I think the next few years are going to bring training programs for new green jobs. I am hoping that the adult center will take advantage of new funds.

    Maybe some way can be found to train all those kids that dropped (or were pushed) out of school.

    I have been thinking about an urban farm incubator program there too.

    About the surprise surplus. Boy does that remind me of old times. The money is never there unless the district suddenly finds it. I remember them finding $1M they didn’t know they had, or so they said. In fact that was when I spent a lot of time trying to make the budget transparent. Why not put it online so we can all add and subtract?

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    The board room at the DO is used for non-televised meetings and for training of employees, for principal’s council and various and sundry other things.

    I think that the adult school camupus could very well handle the district administration as well as classes.
    I am afraid that Ms. Solomon is not in favor of “green classes” unless they bring in oodles of money for whatever it is she wants the money for. She has virtually phased out classes that help the community unless the community memebers have deep pockets to pay for classes offerred by Boston Reed College that start at $2500. Who here has that kind of money??? classes for diploma prep, GED, older adults, community learning are gone by the wayside.

    I wonder if there will ever be transparancy regarding where the dollars go or where they are squirreled away. Given my past experiences with HUSD, I doubt that they will ever be forth coming. It might mean they have to justify positions that should not be on the payroll. Positions that were created while they pink slipped teachers and classified staff..you know the ones that actually effect student success.

  • Eric Kurhi

    On the topic of who owns HUSD central: There’s a useful link on the http://www.hayward-ca.gov website, scroll down to Maps & GIS. Click on that, then click on GIS-Interactive Map. You can punch in an addy and find out who owns it. 24411 Amador St. is indeed owned by Hayward Unified.

  • John W. Kyle

    All;

    Under this new topic, I wish to advise that it presents a great subject which will eventually answer much of the HUSD money problem.

    Amusingly the subject of ‘selling assets’ in the submission by Ms. Booth at item # 3 above, other than the fact that she spells the word ‘function’ in an embarrassing fashion, the lady hits on a topic close to my advice to Dr. Vigil some four ( + ) years ago.
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    I had gone to Sacramento, to look at a property that I had appraised 35+ years earlier and which was a well remembered experience both as to the quality of the structure, as much as the fact that the land upon which it is located, had been the subject of near despair for that City’s Redevelopment Agency.

    Located within former boundaries of the defunct Sacramento Northern rail yard, (as was the Crocker Mansion), the area was not attractive for developers. After abandonment of the site by the railroad it had become habitat for denizens of the night. Not one square inch of that land was sold in the several years it had been on the market, despite location within two blocks of both the River and K Street’s present business and governmental facilities.

    In a rare instance of ingenuity, City Fathers suggested to Redevelopment agency that two blocks be unified ( by a street closure) and then the five (5) acre site be offered at a ridiculous $2.00 per sq, ft. to the developer who presented the best design for a residential rental structure without impositions or conditions relative to low income tenants.

    A hugely respected developer, Bob Powell, handed $75,000 to a respected Architectural firm with the instruction “win the contest”! Which he did! It is now known as ‘Governor’s Square’!

    Immediately, those who had heard of that transaction, apparently accepted the idea that if it was ‘good enough for Powell‘, the contest winner, then I too wish to invest….. Big success at which the City gained immensely, including the differential in price offered and the ’price run up’ during quick absorption of land .

    Built not to a condominium standard and still in use as a successful rental property today, long since sold by the deceased developer, the structure is astoundingly well located in relation to the Crocker Museums, K street Offices etc.

    I gathered details from my long held personal file on that property, combined it with recent photos and had the temerity to suggest to Dr. Vigil that it be enlarged upon, redesigned only to the point that it be upgraded to condominium standards and the higher unit count possible on the much larger Darwin Site which has about 9 + acres as opposed to the 5 acre, (200 units) in Sacramento. 260 units for HUSD!

    Darwin site had been held off the market for the simple reason that the multi-purpose space was being used for the kitchen. The kitchen relocation was being kept until the day that a ‘money saving’ new construction was to be built sometime in the bye and bye when it could share a new kitchen facility with the County’s ‘meals on wheels’ program. Commendable but short sighted as ever, Vigil thanked me for the effort and put what I had presented on a shelf somewhere. Another $250 of personal funding, lost as result of need to overnight in Sacramento with meal and fuel, photo development expense etc…(other than teachers buying school supplies), how many volunteer that to HUSD?

    That land could have been developed to high quality condominium standards, used as a rental for 10 years as is the common practice used to shake out any defect used by ‘ambulance chasers’ to frighten Condominium HOA Directors, with thoughts of personal liability due to a ‘directors negligence’.

    Thus it has become the practice to build condominiums for use as apartment rentals for an initial period before a sales program is effected. With HUSD that would have brought $500,000 per year lease money to HUSD and then, a slice of the sale proceeds after the initial ten years, based on then current land value, as well as $500,000 per year in ‘land rent’ for each of the interim years.

    Proximity to those professionally employed at nearby Kaiser Hospital, whose skills extend into facility with language other than English, combined with the incredible amenity appeal of the 14+ acre park separating the two facilities, Mt. Eden Park at Corner of Hesperian and Tennyson, as aid to amenity appeal, would command high rent on multi story buildings within which are space saving flats, possessing nine differing floor plans and room counts….. Would have induced huge rent inuring to the land! Like $500,000 per annum rather than the $40,000 from the present lease.

    What did HUSD do? It had shelved the idea until a better idea came along.. Just as if the Fairy God Mother would eventually arrive to aid both School District and Meals on Wheels program?

    In early 2010, HUSD leased the Darwin school and an irregular portion of the land to a Charter School for 10 years, ( probably with options.) That irregularity in the land partition used to satisfy the need of a charter school, with little thought given to the long view of HUSD Budget matters, is a serious detriment to any interim use of the remainder of the Darwin site.

    I brought the matter to the attention of Mr. Armas shortly after the lease contract was signed. He called back to advise that I had brought forward a serious defect at HUSD…. It seems that TEACHERS know very little once outside the classroom and that those who choose TO ’move up’ to employment in School Administration have a thing or two to learn.

    In our phone call, during which we discussed the Darwin site, Mr. Armas went on to relate how he had been reviewing asset management, especially that which relates to real estate. The man is quick, he had not yet been on the Board of Trustees but two or three months. We ought damn well listen to him!

    I will not go into detail, preferring instead to state that I had good reason to defend the man while observing the virtually uninformed, nay, nearly illiterate attacks upon the man made by some blog contributors who were defended by those equally ignorant contributors who objected to my defense of the man.

    As to relocation of HUSD Administration to Sunset site… Forget it! There is a better idea presently locked up in the mind of Jesus Armas who is the single most broadly, experienced individual on the Board of Trustees. No one will ever need to instruct the board from the rear of the Council Chambers with anything at which he becomes involved.

    In our personal discussion and exchange of viewpoints, he exposed a train of thought which is not limited to Darwin, the Admin Building, nor the often overlooked misplacement of an industrial use at the present M & O location. The M&O land use at that location is horrendous oversight of higher and better use potential as is the ‘special parking lot at corner of Amador and Elmhurst.

    The single best improvement brought to HUSD Board of Trustees, in a very long time, (including recent events,) is the creative mind of Mr. Armas.

  • John W. Kyle

    Booth et al:

    Separate but allied subject.

    Yes, some of the names appearing upon the land titles are outdated. Probably pure oversight by overworked emoployees, but no apparent endangerment to the budget.

    Some, such as the Helen Turner site, which might have been better adapted to the needs of the Charter school presently using Darwinn, and another at Ochoa MS are using Mt Eden School district name as owner of record.
    Ywo school districts merged together thus the name Hayward UNIFIED ! Get it?

    Helen Turner? Yes that might easily be re-located to Sunset Ms. Booth! Think about it ! Better parking, less traffic in the neighborhood…. much of which annoys Mr. Gilbertson, your friend, and his small minded followers of now defunct LANGIA group.

    Langia opposed moving placment of the Traffic light at Marin and followed the ‘old’ out dated plan. The Marin Ave location would have affiorded access by A/C TrANSIT SO THAT YOUNGSTERS IN OUR AREA, especially BETWEEN lONGWOOD Ave and W. A Street would not need to walk over 3/4 mile and acroos Hesperian, in inclement weather to catch a lightly serviced AC Transit line in order to attend Mr. Eden. or better yet Ochoa MS where truancy reached 75% but Longwood school where many had attended was at fairly low 35% last year. Why tthe difference at Ochoa?

    I attribute the High rate of truancy at Ochoa to kids must walk from South Garden, Victory Drive area, across Hesperian to ride a nus that gord nearer Ochoa then Hesp-erian, p0resenting another walk down depot Road to Ochoa. Walk to scuyhool and get clipped or die of peemoan? Parents unable to pay health care premiums ?????

    I had all the teachers at Longwood sign a pettition but Gilbertson had walked the neighborhood, not for the benefit of anyone but his irrational attempt to even the score over his loss at the 1994 recall failure!

    But, oddly the present location brings more traffic past his home rather than less. Have you noticed the incredible traffic jam at Longwood, especially during inclememnt weather, when the parents drive the kids to school. With an enrollment above 700…. do you really imagine they all live in this neighborhood?

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Is there nothing that some poster will not take credit for thinking of first? By the way, Mr. Gilbertson does not access any computer information. So making jabs at him will get no rise.

  • Michael Moore

    Kathi, I thought you were going to ignore he who was there first, stayed longer, spent more, saved more, wrote first, photographed best, left first, saw more people, had a better time and had the land named after him.

    Selling real estate may not now be a great move. Keeping it or at least moving into what we own instead of lease makes lots of sense. Let us hope the trustees can explore and move quickly with unanimity.

  • John W. Kyle

    Ms. Bootyh’
    Just what seems to be your problem with ideas which are obvviously more rational while being contrary to your own?

  • John W. Kyle

    Moore

    As the blogs greatest legal beagle second only to Ms. Booth….. note that in my above recebt submission, I made no suggestion that we sell anything at this moment in time aklthough I do suggest that putting forward belated recommendastions for action such as the move of Helen Turner to Sunset and be replaced at it’s present location by that which is at Darwin, might open up opportunity to at least accept deposits on the Darwin site by speculatigve builders, who when recognizeing the incredible amenity appeal of a property immediately adjacen to a 14 acre park as well as a potential success of marketing a project towards professional tenants employed at Kaiser is a possibility!

    Often engaged in conversation with chats involvied with my own as well as wife’s helth vcare, I am aware that many commute excessive distances after a long, intense day and that housing inb close proximity to work is an advantage. If not aware be adbised that some work 12 hours on and twelve off…. it can be a strain and commutes to Pleasanton or San Ramon areas, or evebn further, can be a strain they do not need.

    Move away from your cheap shots at the Church…. there is no benefit to anyone in those episodic remarks posted by you…. it does nothing to aid HUSD !

    Entreprenuership and good business management skills are now present at HUSD. Cheer up!

    Just where is your law office and what is your special interest in law practice? I once was involved with jury duty for a period of 99 days, about 40 of which were spent seated on a jury, at Alameda County Superior Court house in Oakland…. great fun watching the incredible variation in skills practiced by prosecutors and defense attornies; although I imagine you are not the type to engage in prosecution of criminal cases. Defense? Perhaps just divorce, evictions and such like…. given the volume of your expressed research occuring with school matters you do not seem overly active at actual lawyer work.

  • teachermama

    I thought the reason behind the perpetual surprise surpluses is to force concessions from the unions while crying poverty, only to later find out the money is actually there. Repeat as necessary.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    You got that right Teachermama.

  • K Rocchio

    As I understand it, the shortfall prediction was based on what we expected to get from the state and the budget was set. Some of the factors creating the change are the increase from the state by $5.3M and the Jobs Bill amount of $3.5M one-time monies. When asked why this money did not bring back jobs the answer was because we are using these funds as a direct offset to existing personnel costs. The bill allows directing the funds to current salaries and benefits as an “avoided cut”. The ARRA funds added $2.9M in unrestricted and $1.1M in special ed funds that must be spent by 9/30/11. These are just some of the reasons these amounts are changing.

    It is very frustrating that we have to set a budget based on assumptions and cut jobs and increase class sizes, only to have funding slip in after these cuts have been made. More frustrating to me is that after years of missteps concerning finances, HUSD needs to keep our fingers crossed that surprise funds will come available to fund the bare minimum in our classrooms. These one-time funds offer a short reprieve.

  • qodrn

    That map site Eric mentioned is totally fun to play with. It tells you who owns (probably) the property, if they are in a flood zone, or earthquake zone, the size of the lot and other cool stuff. Now if I forget the last name of my neighbors, I can look them up. I will have to check if other cities do this.

  • John W. Kyle

    All:

    Ms. Roccio appears to have a handle on the current problem. But does she?

    Now, given the condition of the budget at State as well as National levels and, if you missed the 60 minutes program of last evening, be aware that there are an incredible number of State County and Municipalities ‘living on the economic brink’. We are in very, repeat very, serious trouble as a nation.

    The Governor of New Jersey is correct…. we as a nation are living on the brink of economic disaster! That gentlemen exposed a huge problem when he pulled his state out of a BIG rail project from N.J. into New York. He explained how, among other things, he has no funding available to pay the current retired employees let alone those still working……

    N.J. is broke and he as well as that financial expert, a highly talented woman, also appearing on 60 minutes, who is an expert on Municipal / State retirement benefits And together recited how Cities, Counties and States are stressed out — to the extreme!.

    Those of us living on personal; savings without a retirement benefit are at a loss to understand why additional taxes are the answer, for which we who are without pensions, will have an unjustified share placed on us. Have we not noticed HWD police officers ‘retiring’ after 20 or 25 years and then re-hired to the County Sheriff’s Dept… for a ‘double dip’ into the money trough?

    If Calpers investments fell short of the desired future worth, why ask us for a parcel tax as well as an anticipated increase of income tax.

    Ms. Duran, ( Supt of HUSD) has frequently mentioned the need for a $200 parcel tax…. on top of MAD Assessment and the school’s Measure I bond assessment which is needed to pay off the bonds and which assessments will increase every four years and last for what? 25 years of payback for each group of Bond sales ?

    As a member of the “Strategic Change Group”, (just one of my early involvements with HUSD,) I had advocated for a school bond. Failing to vote in only a single instance since age 21, (Overseas Army Post Office failed timely delivery of my absentee ballot), I had never in my life voted against a school bond until HUSD’s Measure I appeared on my ballot.

    I voted against HUSD’s recent bond measure for the simple reason that HUSD had ignored the fault line problem at Treeview School. I was vocal in pre-election discussions on that issue!

    That school was omitted from the list of schools needing replacement. Personal observations of that site during an inspection tour of other sites, relative to possible disposition of Peixoto School, saw an exposed sewer line under repair, due to lateral displacement and damage caused by the periodic horizontal movement along Hayward Fault.

    In July 2009 a geologic analysis of the TreeView site was published in a written and graphic / mapped form of report, addressed to HUSD. That was a ‘study’ performed well after my out cry leading up to the bond vote. That July 2009 report places the presently active slip joint within the proposed replacement site but at a marginal location near the east end of a generally rectangular location of an intended new school.

    What the report does not discuss is the previous two or three geological reports, ( treated to annotation only and lines drawn upon the afforded site map,) which place the fault line nearer the middle and western end of the proposed Treeview Replacement… which is apparently not yet funded.

    I maintain that the folks in SACRAMENTO who are responsible for ‘signing off ‘ on any proposed school construction within areas discussed in the Alquist-Priolo act, that they will, in protection of their own reputations, avoid signing off on any detailed plan for re-construction of TreeBView.

    Folks, HUSD problems are at the moment, just minor compared to that which is just around the ‘next corner’,

    Grandson of a man who was not only without education, but put to work in a very deep English coal mine, extending out under the sea, he at age 7, extracted coal from seams too shallow for an adult. At age eleven he was fired, his fault ? Too large! He never earned more than a schilling per week for 12 hours per day, 6 days per week.

    Needless to say. I was fully inculcated with the first rational response to Karl Marx’s ‘Das Kapital’, as found in the Encyclical of Pope Leo XIII, “On the condition of labor” dated May 15, 1891, That writing caused major support for the Union activity of many in Europe as well as the Americas.

    I would like to suggest, even without personal knowledge of the apparent disagreement, that HEA consider backing off from it’s current demands. Given the apparent validity of the discussion occurring on last evening’s “60 minutes” program, you are in a poor position, along with the rest of us!

  • Michael Moore

    I am pleased that the end of the HUSD will not be June 2011. That being said the unavoidable, and I think incontrovertible fact is that unless concessions over benefits and salary occur in 2011-2012 and forward from there, the district is going to go broke.

    If I am wrong on this, please tell me that the health of the district has changed for the beter.

    HUSD will not be able to show a budget in the black through 2012 and perhaps longer. Let us hope that the spirit of negotiation and reconciliation that evidenced themselves amongst the trustees that the March meetings will promulgate the successful budgets needed to put the district into the black.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Again I ask is there nothing that someone posts on this site that a certain “contributor” doesn’t lay claim to having suggested it already, having more factual knowledge, having an inside link to the real workings of land mangagement in HUSD, having a direct line to the powers that be both in HUSD and the world?

    I hope if there is a Santa that he takes this “contributor” some very special hard earned gifts of appreciation.

  • John W. Kyle

    Booth … and Moore

    Booth: You sound bitter. Perhaps you ought to ‘tune in’ to the world around you… outside your own narrow view of HUSD.

    When dear lady did ‘some contributor’ attempt to gain your attention on anything, let alone on the content of last night’s 60 minute program?

    Within your scribbles there is a strong tendency ‘to go off’’ on a tangent on a particular submission of a contributor who challenges not you, but some area of general interest, especially on subjects involving a needed control on use of license as opposed to free speech, which annoys you.

    As to the budget problems even Mr. Moore suggests that ‘bargaining units’ become tuned in to realities of the present economy!

    May I assume that you are indifferent to the problem at Treeview? Where the only concern for that problem was expressed by myself but where, as a result of some possible need to play the CYA game, someone caused a study to be done directly addressing my open comments as well as those placed to paper. Where do you think HUSD intends to go with that problem which would ruin the reputation of all directly in the decision making process if just one child was injured at that site during a quake?

    Dear Ms. Booth… you make your attacks personal rather than on thought content! It suggests that yours is a re-action, lomited to the presence of an author about whom you disapprove, rather than the actual content of a scribble.

    Moore; You are nearly correct. Without concessions by the ‘bargaining units’ HUSD will go broke! Are you absolutely assured that Booth’s declaration to the effect that ‘volunteers’ are not going to come forward? The matter grows even worse. if you accept Booth’s highly negative ideas, Then, may I ask, how is HUSD to survive under any conditions?

    Volunteers built the School at St. Joachim’s church in the early 1950’s… in it’s entirety… it met the standards of the California’s Riley Act. IS A LOW MAINTENANCE STRUCTURE AND IN GOOD CONDITION.

    Note that I do not espouse volunteers to act in the place of a bargaining unit member. I mention that so to avoid angering the woman, addressed above, further than her present condition. It is a simple fact that the count of attendance clerks at HUSD have been halved at HUSD and word addressed to me, by a relative of Ms. Brunner is that the relative’s daughter, an attendance clerk presently is also reduced to a half day. Are attendance clerks members of an HUSD bargaining unit? Are attendance clerks able to correct the truancy problem without assistance from volunteers?

    In today’S ANG news paper there is a foreclosure notice describing a home, near the St Joachim’s church, built in 1950′s, as having a loan balance of slightly more than $450 K for a low quality structure, in a suffering neighborhood, one story, concrete slab floor, cold heat loss type stucco exterior walls, THREE bedrooms one bath and possible addition at rear to the original. of similar quality that might have boosted size to 1500 sq, ft….. another Bank loss of astounding magnitude! How much ‘bank bailing’ activity will we be able to afford or how many ‘parcel taxes’ can Hayward sustain.

    Why on earth do you or anyone else rely on the idea that Gov. Jerry Brown can work miracles? I voted for the man but I do not expect ‘miracles’. It was a simple case of avoiding Ms. Whitman being seen on the scene. That would have been a disaster of calamitous proportions.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Oh please forgive me for whatever you think I do or don’t do when I post on this blog. You won’t be happy until I am dead and gone

    Happy Holidays to you Mr. Kyle. Perhaps you could just not constantly criticize and comment on someone’s postings, or indicate that they are an afterthought because you seem to have publicly spoken or written about the same view point or suggestion. Nobody really likes to have their suggestions or comments constantly belittled. Some are just more able than I to ignore you. I don’t give a rat’s behind whether you choose to differentiate between license and free speach, nor do I have to defend what I say to you.

    Again have a happy holiday….

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Oh please forgive me for whatever you think I do or don’t do when I post on this blog. You won’t be happy until I am dead and gone

    Happy Holidays to you Mr. Kyle. Perhaps you could just not constantly criticize and comment on someone’s postings, or indicate that they are an afterthought because you seem to have publicly spoken or written about the same view point or suggestion. Nobody really likes to have their suggestions or comments constantly belittled. Some are just more able than I to ignore you. I don’t give a rat’s behind whether you choose to differentiate between license and free speach, nor do I have to defend what I say to you.

    Yes attendance clerks are part of a barganing unit, they are classified employees with a contract that is negotiated just like HEA and by the was so are all the Administrators a part of a bargaining unit. If you doubt my information then ask your favorite board member Mr. Armas
    Again have a happy holiday….

  • Michael Moore

    Happy Holildays to all on this very special winter solstice. I hope that all of you are able to gather outside tonight and gain a view of the eclipse between 10:33 PM and 12:53 AM. Ameratsu will emerge shortly and save all sentient beings from the promise of eternal darkness and cold.

  • John W. Kyle

    Booth;
    Are you dliberate in being obtuse? Perhaps you are unaware of the condition of your mind’s eye!

    You seem compulsive by seeking the last word.
    The attendence clerk of whom I spoke is a cousin of Ms, Brunner. Perhaps she might advise the bargaining uniot of the situation. The young lady involved is consi9dering a resignation but her problem is that should she do so, she loses credit for previous time served. Wgat iwas trying to put across was the fact that with reduction to a half day’s labor she is also reduced to just two hours a day in a further action.

    Your antipathetical remark about Mr. Armas only reveals resentment over the fact that I pointed out why it is impractical to move Administration to Sunset High School. You realoloy ought to think about dispalying resentment over contra-indication by any who see the obvious in that suggestion. Hells bells lady, the moving exopense alone would be very costly abd then consider that the remodel costs involved with another use of the admin building affects the ability to do as you suggest. There are plenty of office building vacancies in Alameda County… your idea ignores the fact that the Admin building is not competitive in the marketing of that structure. as an office. Lady, think befiore you make unsound ideas but also do not take offense when you fail understanding of the objections to that idea.

    Making snide remarks about Armas because I supported him is beneath you. There were plenty of well established citizens and business folk who aided Mr. Armas as did former City Council members and Fornmer Trustees who made themselves present at his campaign’s gatherings. If you feal left out… reflect on your problem!

    What I presented aboveat #23, are some pretty serious thoughts that went out on the the CBS 60 minutes progran. I did not slam Roccio for her ‘report’. Moore added a point. yet you avoid the topics about which I wrote and revert back to harrangue directed to me.

    Not that I care for the specifics of what you say, especially since you do not seem able to specifically refute any of the details put forward in # 23 above..
    You lack logic.. pure and simply, a serious condition of the mind. But then I am not a psychiatrist! Just an ordinary guy keeping his mind active in current affairs.

    I am quite experienced in land value analysis, it was that effort which supported my family. Quite capable at identifying the problem at Treeview. Construction proposals brought to the Bank had to be predicated upon value of proposed construction on hillside land. were frequently part of my dat to day labors. As the agricultural; lands wwere absorbed, those with money seeking a home of their own design often chose view lots on difficult hillside lots which required analysis by a qualified, professional engineer, licensed for geotechical subjects. I have read many of their reports; I had also taken a course in geomorphology at Cal Berkley’s ‘Extensio division’.
    and was quite conversant with many engineers whose sole purpose was to advise architects on the techniques and designs to be employed on relatively high risk lots. High risk because of hil side topograhical mobvments in proximity to the subject lot.

    My above discourse on Treeview is well founded and my criticism of the recent report will need response by another engineer. So Ms. Booth… why complain ? The answer is that you do not know how to respond except by a gathering of obtuse remarks…. which does nothing for appreciation of anything else that you contribute to the blog.

    Get smart! Confine your self to putting forward valid, innvative ideas that might aid solution of HUSD’s problem!

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Merry Christmas Joshn Kyle. Can you find fault with that posting? Is it too negative?

  • John W. Kyle

    Ms. Booth;

    After what might pass as a period of deep contemplation for Kathy, the lady comes up with “Merry Christmas”.

    I do not quarrel with the thought. On the contrary, I recognize it as a possible measure of progress in her outlook.

    May the Peace of Christ be with you Kathy. Happy New Year!

  • Michael Moore

    May we all have a piece of Christ as well as a drink.

  • John W. Kyle

    MOORE AND ALL POSSIBLY INTERESTED.

    AGAIN WITH THE MOCKERY FROM THE DISTURBED. !

    FOR THE UN-INITIATED’, THE MAN IS REFERING TO THE BODY AND BLOOD OF CHRIST AS REPRESENTED IN THE BREAD AND WINE OF THE CATHOLIC MASS.

    Moore is tormented by thoughts of sexual abuse of children by Priests. As are many priests who have remained true to vows.

    Moore ignores the fact that many Ministers and Rabbis are also involved. Much to the Chagrin of Ministers and Rabbis.

    One might, in Charity, say a short prayer for the offenders…… whose obsessions caused much alienation from Christ. Frankly I knew two of those types wearing Priestly garb, prior to charges against them…. both have died prematurely Believe me, asuch as they are (were) tormented men….. who realized the peril in which they have placed their eternal souls.

    Kiesle was another, whose life has become a disaster! Too bad, his Mother was a person of tremendou faith and whose premmature death was probably an act of mercy by our creator..

    In Charity, pray for them. Let God be their ultimate judge!

    In today’s world where sexual content in the form of magazines, movies and TV shows as well as the many news racks dispensing the latest topics asociated with Hollywood scandals, … is it no wonder that obsession with sex occurs…. much to the detriment of social order. Muslims may have a point for their disdain of the US. The moral consequences of using freedom as license is undermining our nation.

    In the vernacular form of expression, Men who place canaries in the wrong cages, soon discover that costs associated with those cages are overwhelming!

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Mr/ Kyle please stop with your religious preaching. The last time I checked, this blog is mainly discussing the city and HUSD. Both of which are supposed to be keeping church and state separated. Please do us all a favor and try to do the same.

    Do not pray for me or ask suggest that peace be with me. It is not appreciated nor is it asked for by me.

  • Duane

    Kathi — It appears as though the district does own the building after all! I think your thought of moving the district offices to the old Sunset campus is a brilliant one. If it will keep us from making any more cuts to the school sites and classrooms as well as course offerings for the students, I say go for it. By the way, doesn’t this sort of go along with Mr. Armas’s idea of selling some district-owned land to get us through this mess?

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Duane,
    While Mr. Armas has suggested this tactic, it is not new. The moving of the district offices to the Adult School Campus is not a new idea. This was suggested several years ago as a cost saving measure. Unfortunately for whatever reason the suggestion(s) fell on deaf ears. Many in this community have felt that the current site for the district offices should have been liquidated it was and still is a prime location.

  • John W. Kyle

    Booth,

    Rread # 30 above.

    Direct your poor advice to Moore.

    Then consider: Of what use are your preachments against the logic used to rebut youtr inane suggestions?

    Ih your contemplations, you fail to think through to a logical conclusion, all factors confronted with a move of Administration to Sunset.

    Despite Duane and others…. it might have been better had your thoughts been centered on houghts for removal of M & O to a site where the land value differential would support the move. Assuming of coutrse that there is a market for the M & O site in these days of economis uncertainty and investor hesitancy.

    Your advice is best limited to subjects such as crossing guards… or such concerns and activities in which you might have some personal thought derived by education and/or expeerience…, you know, the simple stuff!

    Examine Mr.Moore’s # 30 above then try to convince me it was not a slam against the Catholic Mass.

    Your perceptibve abilities are in decl;ine too… or are they? Let your next scribble be a bit more perceptive and fair! If that talent is still available to you! Lady, you do ‘go off’ on some tangents which are perceived or seen only by yourself. Calm down, watch “Oprah” a bit more before she closes down her program! Better yet, take up some activity spomnsored by your ‘out of toewn’ Church and ministry! There is plenty there to keep your mind occupied… or so one would think if it is one of the myriad of seasonally active churches.?
    May I suggest that you use Google to reach “Cristo Rey Schools, Chicago Illinois ? When reaching ythat website scroll down the center of tyhe page and click on the 12 minute ’60 minute’ segment which ought be interesting to amnyone interested in Education. You might prove to be of great use in organizing a Protestant version of that activity!

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    I AM A ROMAN CATHOLIC YOU FOOL. MY MINISTER/PRIEST RESIDES IN ROME YOU FOOL. ONCE AGAIN YOU MAKE ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE BASED UPON YOUR IGNORANT SELFISH NEED TO PUT PEOPLE DOWN. OF COURSE I AM SURE THAT FOR YOU TO BELIEVE MY STATEMENT I WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH MY BAPTISMAL PAPERS.

  • Michael Moore

    Prester John, go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence.
    As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant, they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
    Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love, for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is perennial as the grass.
    Take kindly to the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world.
    Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

  • Sherry Blair

    Very nice, Michael! Good advice for the Winter Solstice which, thankfully, keeps arriving year after year.

  • Michael Moore

    Sherry, were you able to bathe in the Lunar Bath last night. It really was quite lovely. I had hoped that someone would notice Ameratsu as well. The nice thing is that it is all as predictable as things can be in this transitory time we call Life. Good hearing from you.

  • John W. Kyle

    MOORE / BOOTH

    FOLLOW YOUR OWN ADVICE !

  • John W. Kyle

    Booth and Moore:

    Here are some excerpts taken from a published ’open letter’ addressed to Catholics and written by Mr. Sam Miller. The date is lost to me but it occurred about five, possibly six years ago, in a Cleveland newspaper.

    Mr. Miller is not Catholic, he is Jewish but he sees in much of our American Society, a bias against the Catholic Church. As we hear about sexual abuse, more often because of the lawsuits, be aware that much of everything you read is not only incorrect but slanted.

    Mr. Miller published his article within an advertisement for his business, What that cost, or rewarded him, for his courage in identifying the article as part and parcel of his usual advertisement is not known. I strongly suspect that God holds the man in esteem.

    The Church has made mistakes and must continue to be an accountable institution and we who are Catholic must continue to put the truth and children’s safety above all else.

    BE PROUD TO BE CATHOLIC. (by Sam Miller) read the story lead!

    Why would newspapers carry on a vendetta on one of the most important institutions that we have in the United States, namely the Catholic Church? Do you know, that the Catholic Church educates over 2.6 million students everyday at the cost to your Church of 10 billion dollars, and a savings on the other hand, to the American Taxpayer, of 18 billion dollar?. Your graduates go on to graduate studies art the rate of 92%, all at a cost to you. To the rest of the Americans it is free.

    The Church has 230 colleges and universities in the U.S. with an enrollment of 700,000 students. The Catholic Church has a non-profit hospital system of 637 hospitals, which account for hospital treatment of 1 out of every 5 people… not just Catholics in the United States today.

    But the press is vindictive and trying to totally denigrate in every way, the Catholic Church in this country. They have blamed the disease of pedophilia on the Catholic Church, which is as irresponsible as blaming adultery on the institution of marriage.

    Let me give you some figures that you as Catholics should know and remember. For example, 12% of the 300 Protestant clergy surveyed admitted to sexual intercourse with a parishioner; 38% ACKNOWLEDGED OTHER INAPPROPRIATE SEXUAL CONTACT IN A STUDY BY United Methodist Church, 41.8% of clergywomen reported unwanted sexual behavior; 17% of laywomen have been sexually harassed. Meanwhile 1.7% of the Catholic clergy has been found guilty of pedophilia. 10% of the Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia. ( This figure is not correct. Studies show that Protestant figures are similar or slightly higher than Catholic numbers.) This is not a Catholic Problem.

    A study of American priests showed that most are happy in the priesthood and find it even better than they had expected, and that most, if given the choice, would choose to be priests again in face of all this obnoxious PR the church has been receiving.

    The Catholic Church is bleeding from self inflicted wounds. The agony that Catholics have felt and suffered is not necessarily the fault of the church. You have been hurt by a small number of wayward priests that have probably been totally weeded out by now.

    Walk with your shoulders high and your head higher. Be a proud member of the most important non-governmental agency in the United States. Then remember what Jeremiah said: ‘Stand by the roads and look. and ask for the ancient paths, where the good way is and walk in it, and find rest for your souls‘. Be proud to speak up for your faith with pride and reverence and learn what your Church does for all other religions. Be proud that you are Catholic.
    ——
    The following is by J.W. Kyle directed to readers as well as Mr. Moore whose finger pointing at the church has gone beyond the standards which are only loosely, if ever, applied by ANG.

    Skeptic readers might use Google to locate the newspaper in Cleveland which printed the item, by Mr. Miller A copy of the full article was sent me by a daughter living in Louisville Ky. Mine was sent to All Saints Church administration which published the above excerpts.

    All this is in rebuttal to Mr. Michael Moore’s contributions which are periodically devoted to his prejudicial ‘opinions‘, contributed to the blog, just since his original contribution printed here in late August.( 2010). I particularly draw attention to his item numbered at position above.

    In another at an earlier date, he predicted that the church would not last another 20 years….. Small minded fellow, he ignores the 2000 year existence of the Church. See his contribution # 30 above… the man mocks the Eucharistic Sacrament which is the focal point of the Catholic Mass.

  • John W. Kyle

    Moore’s is at positiohn # 30 above and is dated quite recently7….. ‘a piece of Christ and a d5rink…. rferes directly to the bread and wine consecrated as the body and blood of Christ.

  • Michael Moore

    Prester John, my issue is with the Pope (actually all Popes). His actions of protection of the Holy See of his priests from secular legal action is repugnant to me. Other groups priests and laiety are not protected by the Holy See and actions do proceed against these criminal. Any religion that continues to shield these abusers will fail. My point is that at the rate the church is paying for this defense of pedophile priests, many if not all dioceses will fail financially. The Pope should render up his criminal priests to civil authorities and quit shielding them, paying for their defense and get out of the business of supporting those who damage our children and families. I feel incidentally the same about all religions and political entities that protect these vermin.

  • http://None Kathi Booth

    Preaching again, Mr. Kyle? I don’t need you to instruct, inform or preach to me about the Catholic Church. Please stop directing such commentary to me.

  • Michael Moore

    Prester John, all I ask the Pope to do is to surrender his priests who have done wrong to civil authorities. I also would like for him to instruct the church to excommunicate these folks.

  • John W. Kyle

    Moore

    Take your request to Top of the pecking order at ANG.

  • Michael Moore

    Prester John, what does ANG have to do with any of these issues?

  • Lancer Pride T Romijo

    Fuel keeps the fire going. Appears the saying, “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me,” is incorrect based on reading this site.

    I check into this blog time-to-time and see the same silliness going on. Why? What is the focus? Not education! Just adults bickering. Ignore things, if things are ignored, they eventually go away.

  • John W. Kyle

    Moore:

    They control it’s existence! Your issues are the mark of your character…. I do not see any contributor pickung up ans supporting the viciousmess that you display toward the R.C. Church!

    I do not understand why the folks ar the top find any good emanating from the blog, especioally given your hate filled expressions that drip from your mind..

    I will print out a few and mail it to the top as an example of the pronblem. Your mind brings nothing of value to HUSD or the City.

  • Michael Moore

    John, rejoice, a new day is born.