Big hit in latest ideas for cuts: Faith Ringgold
By Eric Kurhi
Thursday, May 12th, 2011 at 4:23 pm in Hayward, Schools.
UPDATE 5/16: Here’s the story that ran today.
Faith Ringgold School of Arts and Science supporters were out in force last night, and for no small reason. The superintendent is recommending closing the school to save more than $700,000. That’s the single largest source of $1.5 million in cuts that Supt. Janis Duran said need to be made regardless of what news comes from the state next week. Duran’s not alone in her recommendation — 60 percent of the the Fiscal Integrity and Transparency Advisory Group recommend its closure, 27 percent voted “yes, but modify” the plan, no members voted against it and 13 percent were undecided.
Trustee Jesus Armas said the board “needs a philosophical concurrence” in making decisions such as this one, because without that, “it’s just numbers, dollars and cents.”
That’s what the board’s special meeting earlier this afternoon was aimed at, a discussion of goals and the like.
We’ll have a story on Faith Ringgold in the next couple of days. Board will decide at the May 25 meeting.
Also, item H.6, the one about forming a community interview panel for the superintendent search, passed. Details to be ironed out.
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May 12th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
I was a part of the Charquin community when we had to move from Markham to the Laurel site..The only thing that the district had to move was the tables and two district owned tv/vcrs. The community moved everything else. At the new site, we painted,and then the district waxed the floors and positioned the tables. We did all of the rest of the set up. At last night’s meeting the Faith Ringgold community committed to do it just the same way…
The original figure for the “cost savings” was in the 500 thousand dollar range…just a few months ago. The Faith Ringgold community volunteered to fundraise to help offset the costs; suggested that they would gladly share a site as they have done in the past, at Laurel, at Markham, at Tennyson. WE ADAPT, AND ACCOMMODATE! We are also an asset to any campus we are assigned. We are an example of positive energy, compassionate caring, holistic learning and can be role models and mentors to our fellow students. We just need a home.
May 13th, 2011 at 10:40 am
You also need the school district to support one alternative school. How about closing the alternative school and keeping Faith Ringgold?
There is no way the district will save $770,000 by closing this school and really the rest of the cuts are mostly fluff. It looks like the district is not going to be cut that much, and heck the parents are willing to help offset costs.
The district is nuts.
May 13th, 2011 at 11:39 am
All: On the subject of closing Faith Ringgold
and an associated matter!
It is about time! Closure will ‘LEVEL THE PLAY FIELD’ ! Since so many enrollees are residents of other districts, ( which do not have similar activities), those children will have to return to the district which serves the ’ordinary’ children of their home districts. A large number of Faith Ringgold students reside in areas of deprivation, that it is only fair that they return so to relieve Hayward
My source? Check the tapes of the HUSD meeting EARLIER THIS YEAR, when the group of parents were pleading to keep this ‘very important educational opportunity’ open.
Scroll through the agenda pages ( found on the website), for each of the HUSD meetings occurring in the first quarter of the calendar year. I confess to loss of memory as to the date at which the parents were pleading a weak case for keeping that program alive.
I agree it should be kept open but do it at the expense of those school districts in which so many of those students reside! The expense of acquiring the land and erecting a building ought be done at the expense of the Alameda County School Board, at a more convenient location to the whole of the County than is the case in Hayward.
City of Hayward bears great expense on a direct or indirect basis of need, in such large sums, that it ought be the basis of another writing. One example; we have a disproportionate percentage of parolees living in Hayward and if we consider the recidivism rate of those on parole and assume that many have children living in Hayward’s low income areas … well, let your mind dwell for a short period on the question of parenting skills possessed by parents with a criminal record.
Again I suggest to community leaders and their constituents, to think about relieving HUSD of some burdens it bears as result of attempting to educate children within the boundaries of the community now seen in many minds, including my own, as the ’doormat of the bay’.
Do not think about selling off the Markham School site, Rather, think about moving the Helen Turner Day Care facility to the Markham site. Consider; The Helen Turner site utilizes but half of it’s land area…. The balance lies fallow and is a maintenance problem.
Having accomplished the move of the Helen Turner operation consider moving that Charter school, presently utilizing only a portion of the Darwin site, to the Helen Turner site.
In the 30 years of my real estate appraisal employment, I am unable to recall reading a lease so detrimental to a property owner as is seen in the land leased by HUSD to the operator of the Charter school on the Darwin site.
( We also have an ugly industrial use on that site…. HUSD uses the old multi-purpose room as a kitchen and has placed some other structures on that site much to the detriment of residential property owners in the immediate vicinity of the Darwin site.)
The lease of the Darwin site to the Charter school has what I believe to be a highly irregular, poorly conceived, affected area that the remainder unused Dawrin site is severely handicapped in it’s ability to accommodate effective use of the ‘remainder parcel!.
Several years ago I made an educated guess that the parcel, if leased to a single user woyld genearte and income stream of about $500,000 per year. The 10 year lease at $40,000 per year, having the disastrous affect upon the remainder reflects incompetence in HUSD administration attributable largely to the last Supt.!
So, now it is time to play a bit of tactful negotiation with the Charter School…..then move it to the Helen Turner site and commence a bona fide marketing effort on the Darwin site which I personally belief would generate around $500,000 per year with a sale ten years later, at around $30 million in present day terms.
As an aside; Did you know that in the five zip codes covering the City of Hayward and involving County areas served by the School District we enjoy the presence, as of April 2010, 514 parollees, in those same zip code areas, as of an earlier date (April 2009) we enjoyed the presence of 1,552 folks described as probationers. Sorry, more recent data on that subject is not yet available to me!
Now compare that with poor Pleasanton which avoids creation of low income housing fo fear of attracting ‘undesirables’.
Pleasanton, as of April 2010 had 5 paroled persons which showed a statistical reduction of 54.55% over the previous year. It’s share of probationers was down 8.70% in 2009 to just 50 in year 2009
Is it any wonder then, that Pleasanton students do better and that truancy is not the big problem in Pleasanton as it is in Hayward?
Pewrhaps a law is needed on the subject of equalization of low income housijng within each County of the SDtate? What says HEA….. any influence in Sacramento?
May 13th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
FAITH RINGGOLD IS OPEN TO ANY AND ALL STUDENTS IN HUSD. IT DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE NOR DOES IT PLACE A BURDEN ON THE STUDENTS OF HUSD. By sending those “outsiders” back to their home districts, HUSD loses ADA money…its not a gigantic amount but I thought every little bit counts. Faith Ringgold is not the “dumping” ground for “low income” surrounding districts. Faith Ringgold or any other school for that matter, should not be a “cost cutting” solution for a district that is top heavy in salaries for administrators, consultants, and attorneys. If they just fired the legal firm and put out a request for bids for legal services, they could save 1,000,000 dollars. Oh my isn’t that a novel idea; not paying plane fair, housing and Lord knows what else for attorneys to defend unfair labor practices, special education mistakes, finding ways to silence the public and anybody else HUSD’s administration chooses.
Let’s get real…student needs, student education comes first…at least I think it does.
May 13th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
All including Ms, Booth
reply to # 3 above..
Oh!
Well, taht’s one opinion and my reply. Is there anyone else who sees a potential pot of Gold in making the moves I suggested at # 2 ? Perhaps a teacher struggling with 28 kids in a class at HUSD?
I recall attending a graduation of my granddaughter at the parochial school in Castro Valley. 35 kids in the class when at first grade of which 33 graduated
together at 8th grade. Something must of gone wrong… she only teaches calculus at a public school near San Luis Obispo.
Then too,her mom and dad were simply unable to bring tv programming into theuir home…. the five youngsters in that class has to watch discs inserted into a dumb machine if they wanted to watch anything on the device some families refere to as a tee vee.
My gosh how thiose grand kids have suffered !!!
May 13th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Whatever you say Mr. Kyle. My immediate concern is for a program that has 30+years of success, despite being ignored by the administration, except for when it becomes convenient to “save money”. The ideology that is built into the Faith Ringgold program is worth saving, no matter what. If HUSD really understood the program then they would encourage families to enroll in Faith Ringgold, they would honor what is called “choice” in enrollment.
May 13th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
So why did’nt the masterminds of H.U.S.D and Measure I ever consider moving FaithRingold to the Laurel site and puting Fairview @ the Markham site? Politics, and the money shell game. Comment on this one Mr. Kyle.
May 13th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Question Eric. Why is the food fight at Leadership High such a big deal? The school has reporters from channel 11 and 2 still on hand even after yesterday.
I don’t get it. The same school had 99% of its sophomores pass the high school grad test but that didn’t get reported on. I can’t believe reporters are spending two days at a school with all the other stuff going on.
May 13th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
the Markham site is difficult for parking and has a tilted playground. But it is suitable to a small school like Faith Ringgold. Would serve the district right if they closed it and a charter school wound up using the site for free.
May 13th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Mystery writer aka ‘Watchdog’
Get your Map book out…The Thomas guide would be a good one simce the scale is large enough fopr the typical Haywarditr to grasp the distance probloem between the Fairview site and the Markham site.
Fairview is shown as located in map grid 7c on page 692 of the 23rd editio of Thomas guide as published by Rand McNaly. is located at 6th and Ward Street where for a period of time, those happy campers wandering around town newar the Library… camped out at night….more simply put, it is but a brisk 6 or 7 minute walk from the library.
Now, having referred to tyhe map and in that process gained an ap[preciation of the distance between the two sites…. ask your self which kid from Kelley hill area can walk the distance… or pay a ‘small fee; for usde of the yellow bus???
Some of the kids fro Kelley hill are traveling quite a distance from Fairview to attend HUSD…. where/ Surely not the famous succssful location in ‘the old Hayward Hills Area…… you know the one that was sio successful that HAPA WANTED TO KEEP IT OPEN AND ABANDON THOUGHTS OF DEVEKLOPIN YTHAT BASTY sTONEBRAE DEVELOPMEN WHICH DONATED A FREE SCGOOL TO FAIRVIEW SCHOO0L WAS A WORN OUT PIECE OF CRAP, JUST AS IS lONGWOOD SCHOOL. …. BUT lONGWOOD WILL ONLY BE ‘REFURBISHED’ DURING THE LAST PHASE OF YTHE bOND SUPPORTED SERIES OF PROJECTS……GUESS WHY ?
May 13th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Watchdog,
You have it exactly right.
May 13th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
aLL:
I AM IGNORING #8
THIS WRITING IS AN APOLOGY FOR THE SPELLING ERROTS ETC OF MY LAST EFFORT…. SHOUKLD HAVE PROCESSED IT THROUGH THE WORD PROGRAM AND USED SPELL CHECK…
I GUESS I WAS BEI9NG DISMISSIVE OF THE WRITER’S APPARRENT FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND THE DISTANCE PROBLEM.;
YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE WRITER AT # 8 WHO HAS LIVED HER LIFE ENTIRELY IN hAYWARD WGILE FAILING TO GAIN AN UNDERSTANDING OF HER HOME TOWN’S GEOGRAPHY.
May 13th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Mr. Kyle,
Your’re spelling is so bad that it does’nt make sense.
May 13th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
I’m sorry I don’t understand what is wrong with the posting at #8..How is it that Mr. Kyle knows this particular person has lived all their life in Hayward? I don’t see that in either 8 or 9.
Ms.Conti,
You have some very good points. I hope that you continue to add to this blog.
May 13th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
pOOR mRS. wATCHDOG,,,,
nO CHARITY IN HER HEART. PERHAPS WATCH DOG REFUSES AN EXPLANATION OF WHY IT IS NOT POSSIBLE NOR PRACTICAL TO mOVE THE kIDS AT fAUIRVIEWW TO mARKHAM SITEtHE HAVING REFUSED MY EXPLANATION ON THE BASIS OF SPELLIN ERRORS SHE 5REFUSES ACCEPTANCE OF THE FACT THAT SHE FAILED TOP RECOGNIZE THE TRAVEL DISTANCE BEWTEEEN THE OLD fAIRVIEW SITE UOIN WHICH A NEW BUILDING IS NEARING COMPLETION.
DEAR READERS OF THE BLOG, DO YOU THINK SHE AND MRS. BOOTH ARE THE TYPES WHO REFUSE ACCEPTANCE OF SIMPLE FACT?
jOIM UN ON THIS WEIGHTY DISCUSSION CAUSED BY MY SCRIBBLES AT ITEMS LISTED IN THIRD AND FIFTH POSITION ABOVE.
gOOD NIGHT ALL! HAVE FUN !
May 15th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Here’s something for you Mr. Kyle…
My husband, you know that evil man, who, according to you, all on his own fired Marlin Foxworth, hired Joan Kowal, sent the district into financial ruin and was the cause for every other problem in HUSD…well he ‘s going to Stanford this week to be an inpatient while he waits for his double lung transplant. Why don’t you see if you can conjour up something witty or sarcastic to post.
Maybe you could find some way to blame me too. Have an nice week Mr. Kyle. I will be checking to see what words of wit and wisdom you proffer.
May 15th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Eric,
Since you rarely find a reason to eliminate a posting please have the decency to leave #16 as it is. Thank you.
May 15th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
I want to give the benefit of the doubt. But it seems odd for the Superintendent to say she’s backed by FITAG reccommendations if FITAG relied on the district office for estimates. Plus I still don’t understand how initially the cost of Faith Ringgold to the district was estimated at $300,000, then later at $700,000.
Semi disclosure, I am a first year parent at Faith Ringgold. And yes, I’ve made arrangements to take my child outside of Hayward Unified if F.R. is cut. With our oldest child, our family’s been part of Hayward Unified since 1999. We’ve met great families, teachers, and yes even some administrators. But Faith is our last effort to stay in HUSD.
May 15th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Kathi, our prayers and good wishes are with you and your husband this day and forever.
May 16th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Teresa: Some things grab the attention of viewers more than others. Notice that the last two stories out of Hayward schools that television really went after both had amateur YouTube clips attached: The food fight at Leadership and physical fight near Hayward High. There are other reasons — when there’s talk of taking senior functions away from everyone, there’s a fairness factor that comes into play, and parents will disagree on whether punishment is just or too severe for a “prank.” When I was at Faith Ringgold that morning talking with the principal, someone came into the office and was going off about how the media was blowing up nothing at Leadership and how those kids had the punishment coming, etc., but he sorta proved the point that people will talk about that story.
Kathi: I wish your husband a seamless operation and speedy recovery.
May 16th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Dear Mrs. Booth,
Our prayers are with you, your husband and your loving family. We hope Mr. Booth gets well soon.
May 16th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Hope everything goes well for Mr. Booth. I will remember him in my prayers. This surgery certainly sounds very scary, but goes susprisingly well these days. Does he have a pair of lungs ready for him or is he waiting for a donor? That is another hard part lungs have to be found from someone. Good Luck.
May 16th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
He has been waiting for 6 months and it is too stressful for his “sick lungs” so now he waits in the hospital. Yep it is really hard to pray for lungs when it means someone else has to lose their life to donate them. Thank you all for your kind words and wishes.
May 16th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
All:
Poor beleaguered Kathy Booth. She attacks me rather unfairly to say the least then raises her husband’s health problem to gather sympathetic support. I question the tactic.
At # 3 above I contributed a logical thought that if accepted and acted upon might eventuate to as much as a $30 million dollar infusion into HUSD’s reserve account at a future date but in the near future would see an annual income stream of something near AT A FUTURE DATE\, BUT IN THE NEAR FUTURE WOULD SEE AN ANNUAL INCOME STREAM OF SOMETHING NEAR A very conservative estimate of $300,000 PER YEAR. This is not the venue to explain a highly plausible real estate transaction which has found acceptance in the SF Bay Area.
The point is that contributors continue submitting banal thoughts such as the idea of moving the Fairview School onto the Markham ( Faith Ringgold) site. Or was Booth whom I had in mind when I spoke of the life long resident who failed understanding of the plight that Fairview students would have a terrible trip to school, to say nothing of the fact that their new school is nearing completion on the old site while students are temporarily attending classes at the re-opened school in the Old Highland hills area on Highland Blvd near Campus Drive..
Ms. Booth’s tirade in her most recent above contribution is nothing less than rant in it’s definition in use as noun as well as verb. She has the audacity to assert that I hold her husband responsible for all of HUSD‘s problems starting with his dismissal of Marlin Foxworth…
Recall the occasion that ms. Booth was inciting readers with her demands that trustees return all the money that was paod them as a stipend for attending the many meetings required of a trustee! The kady fell silent when I calculated what her Husband’s sum would be if he were included in her insistence that the ‘overpayments’ be returned.
Be advised that I did mention Larry‘s name when he was part of the ‘troop of 3 trustees‘ who made a trip to Florida for the purpose of ‘vetting‘ the candidate who was hired to replace Foxworth. Ms. Booth let‘s her imagination run wild when presenting scurrilous personal attacks upon me. Then, after her tirade in the most recent of her contributions, she turns to revelation of her husband‘s medical and physical condition. I interpret that as blatant appeal for empathy for her self as well as for her attack upon me. The lady obviously has an altitudinal problem. I hope it does not affect Larry’s recovery! For my part I will make no further attempts to defend myself where Ms. Booth is concerned. Frankly she is not worth further thought.
Let me make this comment about Mr. Booth. He has, in his history as a citizen been a volunteer with that group concerned with Hayward’s shoreline. He has to his credit undertaken the monetary risk of running for a seat on the Board of Trustees at which he succeeded. I never questioned his votes on any subject. On the other hand Mrs. Booth was quite vocal in her opposition to the appointment of Mr. Armas and his subsequent victory in the vote which soon followed his appointment. That was the period in which Ms. Booth b=egan to submit what she thinks of as being contributions to community in her opposition to Mr. Armas. She even supported a nasty contributor who used a nom de plume so as to avoid personal identity with scurrility in her contribution as Obam New Age! Ms. Booth made no attempt to winnow out the scurrility of the contribution by that unbalanced character using the name Obama New Age. In that support for the scurrilous remarks of the gutless sniper, Booth failed to respond to my requests for her interpretation of the difference between free speech and ‘license’ thus explaining why, as a Graduate of Law School. she passed over the opportunity to take the Bar Exam.
I have engaged Mr. Booth in conversation while shopping at his place of employment. I admire the man for his continued appearance at his job despite the distressful condition of his health. I think his physical expenditures of strength and willpower, to assure medical coverage was a incredible, positive statement about the man’s character. He has difficulty breathing due to lung damage and needs a replacement‘
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Can you imagine the degree of difficulty he encountered dragging a heavy oxygen generating machine to work. Oxygen bottles represent a great risk in public spaces. Where passers-by might be smoking or taking some action causing a spark… thus the need to drag oxygen generating machine, a heavy device which extracts oxygen from air. Dragging that device to work each day that he was on the job was heroic.. I have one in my home ( but am about to return the device which met my wife’s needs but now is no longer necessary.)
Poor Ms. Booth. She has been a heavy smoker for some time and must now give that up for her husband’s sake. I fear her disposition will grow worse; I hope not, for Larry’s sake if not my own.
May 17th, 2011 at 6:05 am
You rose to the challenge Mr. kyle…
Aren’t you proud that once again you couldn’t avoid your snide remarks. You know nothing once again of my husband’s health nor his eventual outcome in this matter. You are such a vile man…and everyone who ever reads or comments on this blog has now been given another opportunity to see you for what you are.
Have you been driving by the house again to check to see if I am smoking???? Gas costs are high, it would seem to me that you should save the money and apply it to a retirement home somewhere far away from this area. Just think how healthy it would be for you and your wife.
This is really the first time that I have enjoyed reading your idiotic ramblings…because it proved that you could not be a MAN and simply let my posting go unanswered.
And just how is it that you would in any way be affected by any decisions I have made?
May 17th, 2011 at 6:30 am
Booth;
Venom drips from your pen ! You are ill!
May 17th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Look who’s talking. You have spewed your garbage since last August…Speaking half truths and untruths about me and mine and you accuse me of venom????
You just can’t stand being called for what you do. You must always go back on the attack. I am so happy that I give you reason to use your minute vocabulary.
Have a wonderful day Mr. Kyle. You made mine when you rose to the bait!
May 17th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Kathy & John you are both scarey people.
May 17th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Ms. Ruiz,
So sorry you feel that way. Glad he has never attacked you or disclosed personal information about you or your family… I doubt that you would feel the same way if he did.
I am an honest person who simply gives factual information when I have it and supports others sharing their ideas. Too bad your exposure came at such a time as to color your views on me.
May 18th, 2011 at 7:39 am
MR. KURHI
I WRITE TO SUGGEST AN ARTICLE BY YOU, IN WHICH THE SUBJECT IS FOUND AT THE EXCELLAENT STATISTICAL DATA PRODUCED BY THE “URBAN STRATEGIES COUNCIL” WHICH IS LOCATED AT 672 13TH STREET IN OAKLAND.
THEY HAVE PRODUCED AN 8.5” X 11” MAP, ON WHICH IS SEEN EACH ZIP CODE AREA, THROUGHUT ALAMEDA COUNTY, DEPICTING WITHIN THAT LAND AREA. AS OF JULY 2010, THE COUNT OF PAROLLEES AND PROBATIONERS,WITHIN EACH OF THOSE ZIP CODES.
EACH ZIP CODE AREA IS SEEN AS A SOLID, OOLOR CODED RELATED TO A GRAPH SUGGESTING THE PRESENCE, IN A BROAD RANGE, THE COUNT OF INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THE POST OFFICE CODE, WHILE UNDER SUPERVISION OF PAROLE OFFICERS,
EACH ZIP CODE AREA IS SHADED AND RELATED BY THE COLOR TO A CHART DISPLAYING THE ‘RANGE’ OF SUPERERVISED PAROLED OFFENDERS,FROM LOW TO HIGH. THUS.REVEALING A SKETCHY UNDERSTANDING OF THE COUNTS OF ‘PROBATIONERS’ AS WELL AS ‘PAROLLEES’ RESIDING IN EACH ZIP CODE. AS OF JULY 2010.
IT IS MY CONTENTION THAT THE TRUANCY AND TRANSIENCE PROBLEM AT OUR HAYWARD SCHOOLS IS RELATED TO THE VERY HIGH COUNTS OF OFFENBDERS IN ‘FLATLAND HAYWARD’ AREA 94541, WHICH INCLUDES PORTIONS OF UNINCOPORATED SAN LORENZO AND FAIRVIEW AND IS SEEN AS THE MOST AGGRIEVED AREA OF HAYWARD
RIGHT UP THERE WITH EAST OAKLAND. WHEN GAINING APPRECIATION OF THE OFF CAMPUS ACTIVITIES OF OUR TRUANTS….. I SUSPECT THAT SINCE MANY ON PAROLE ARE PARENTS, THAT THERE IS A CORRELATION TO BE MADE……BETTER UNDERSTOOD WHEN YOU REALIZE THAT PLEASANTON HAS CONSISTENTLY REFUSED TO PERMIT CONSTUCTION OF LOW INCOPME HOUSING IN THAT CITY…. THEY HAVE BUT TEN (10) PAROLED INDIVCIDUALS IN PLEASANTON AS OF JULY 2010
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THUS THE INCREDIBLE BURDEN ON HAYWARD AND OAKLAND WHEN YOU REALIZE THAT 40% OF PAROLLEES GO BACK TO THE SLAMMER IN THEIR FIRST YEAR OF RELEASE WHILE UNDER SUPERVISON OF A PAROLE OFFICER. THEIR SUPERVISION ENDS AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE THIRD YEAR AT WHICH TIME APPRECIABLY MORE THAN HALF HAVE ALREADY BEEN SENT BACK TO PRISON ON CHARGES OF PAROLE VIOLATION. THUS DO I SUSPECT THAT DISRUPTION TO THEIR CHILDREN’S TEST SCORES ETC…
I THINK A CORRELATION CAN BE MADE WITH TRUANCY AND TRANSIENCE FACTORS AS WELL AS HUSD’S POOR POSITION ON THE LIST OF SCHOOLS WITH POOR ATTENDENCE AS WELL AS LOW TEST SCORES…
YOU, FOR YOUR PART MIGHT ASK TO SPEAK WITH THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE URBAN STRATEGIES COUNCIL, HIS NAME IS: MR. JUNIOUS WILLIAMS JR AND THE OFFICES OF THE URBAN STRATEGIES COUNCIL IS; 672 13TH SREET, OAKLAND, CA. 94612.
I THINK TO UNDERTAKE AN EXAMINATION OF DATA PERTINENT TO SCHOOLS IN FLATLAND hAYWARD ZIP CODE ATREAS WITH EMOHASIS ON 94541 TO SEE HOW THE PRESENCE OF HIGH NUMBERS OF PAROLEES AND PROBATIONERS ARE AFFECTING ATTENDENCE AT SCHOOLS IN OUR ZIP CODE AREA..IiHAVE BEGUN AN ATTEMPT TO GATHER CENSUS DATA AND ATTEWNDENCE DATA, AS AN AID TO UNDERSTANDING OF HUSD’S PROBLEM WITH PARENTS, PARTICULARLY SINCE SENATE BILL 1317 HAS YET TO BE UTILIZED.
I STRONGLY SUSPECT THAT REVIEW OF PAROLE DATA WHEN COMPARED WITH TRUANCY AND TRANSIENCY WILL REVEAL A STRONG AFFECT UPON KIDS AND THAT THIS MAY BE ASSOCIATION WITH HIGH RATES OF TRUANCY AS WELL AS POOR TEST SCORES.
MAKE THE CALL TODAY OR SPEND SOME TIME SEARCHING THE WBSITE OF ‘UBAN SRATEGIES CUNCIL.’S WEBSITE… TREAV=CHED THROUGH GOOGLE WILL AID A STORY THAT YOU MIGHT WRITE PRIOR TO RE-OPENING OF SCHOOL IN LATE SUMMER.
IT’ IS WORTH A STORY OF ABOUT 1,000 WORDS AND THE COLOR CHART DESCRIBED ABOVE OUGHT SURPRISE HELL OUT OF OUR SLEEPY HAYWARD COMMUNITY. ESPECIALLY IF UPDATED FROM THE 2010 DATA REVEALED ON THE AFOREMENTIOED MAP. ABDREW KEVY OF HUSD ADMIN. OUGHT BE ABLE TO SOON SUPPLY ME WITH STATISTICAL DATA RELATING TO ABSENTEEISM FOR 2010 / 2011 PERIOD
May 18th, 2011 at 10:40 am
I understand that parollees return to their place of origin. Also, since a person in prison leaves a one parent family I can see them living in Hayward since it is one of the least expensive areas in Alameda County at least in some areas. I was surprised to find out that rental for a three bedroom apartment was $1700 a month. I suppose section 8 might help some of these people out. So maybe rents are not that cheap.
I think the problem relates to parolees but more to one parent families. Also, many parents are not educated enough to help their kids out with homework and the right type of support beyond economics. Not every parent wants to or has the time or can help out nightly with Algebra II problems. I have to agree that if the state spread parolees around they might have better sucess at not contacting their old buds and the effect would be far less a burden on a community like Oakland or Hayward.
May 18th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Ms. Conti,
For some reason, Mr. Kyle seems to be focused on the zip code in which he lives. I know that there are re-entry people,(I hate the connotation parolee)who are relocated throughout Hayward. I am sure their families are often disfunctional and in need of many supportive services, however I also know that there are just as many disfunctional families in Hayward who do not struggle with the stigma and circumstances surrounding incarceration. If we are to focus on truancy, then we need to find out what the cause is first, and the people to speak with are the students who aren’t showing up to ascertain what is going on at home…if they have one.
My experience with HUSD currently and in the past is that they do not follow up on truancy problems in a consistant way. Oh yes, now they have another of their stay in school drives, just like the bizillion others through out the years. It will produce an increase in attendance and then the focus will diminish and the problem will just come back. There is no long-term follow through.
Until recently, I was an active volunteer helping families with special needs and circumstances and my experience was that the upper administration in HUSD simply didn’t respond in an effective way. My many families depended upon me to find services and support to help them become more efficient, cohesive, caring and educated…to benefit their children. HUSD talks the talk but they certainly do not walk the walk. This is not opinion, it is fact with respect to the many children and families that I have worked with.
May 18th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
The decision to where to place parolees is solely with the State Department of Corrections. Nate Miley is the right person to talk to about this. His previous efforts to get the DOC to answer questions about the parolees has met with indifference. Sheriff Ahearn when queried will tell you the same.
The Unincorporated Committee, chaired by Miley and Wilma Chan, and Alice Lai-Bitker earlier have raised these issues many times. They have also noted the extraordinary numbers of child abusers who are nominally in violation of Megan’s Law because of the proximity to schools.
Our representatives have truly represented everyone to the best of their ability and to maximum amount of influence that campaign contributions can offer. Alameda County continues to reduce its parole officers in light of budget constraints.
The state places the folks in the unincorporated areas because the re-entry housing is there, churches and support groups are well entrenched, housing is inexpensive, zoning constraints are few, Churches are actively in outreach, detox centers are there, political opposition is largely absent or ineffective and the law enforcement officials, county department heads, staff, elected county and city officials and voters win the NIMBY argument and all agree that they would rather have parolees in the unincorporated areas than in the cities of the county.
One has only to visit the monthly Sheriff’s Monday update meetings at the San Lorenzo Homes Association to ask the questions and get straight answers. All of this is unlikely to change given the economy and current voter patterns.
May 18th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Once again, I am not surprised at Mr. kyle. For any who care: I organized the clean-up of South Garden, with the help of Councilmembers Olden Henson and Kevin Dowling, long before the Clean and Green Committee ever thought of coming down this way. If you have any doubts just call or email either of them and ask who was it that blew up their phones, sent them pictures via email, they will be happy to tell you.
I have had families with children at Longwood school who have needed my assistance, throughout the years of my VOLUNTEER efforts; providing respite care for the families of teens.
I have worked voter registration drives.
I don’t need to continuously list my contributions to my community or the greater city of Hayward..I do not need accolades on my behalf, nor do I need to be noticed.
I am not ashamed of my neighborhood or its inhabitants, I do not blame them for past mistakes, I do not judge them on past mistakes, I offer assistance whenever I see people in need. I don’t think I need a sign on my car or house or stapled to my forehead that says LOOK WHAT I DO FOR MY COMMUNITY. I simply reach out.
May 18th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Eric,
Glad to see that you have some courage and compassion and removed that vile posting from Mr. Kyle. While you never found it important to pay me the same courtesy, at least I can appreciate your efforts in this case. It really is time for you and the powers that be at your newspaper to begin to remove hateful, tasteless, personal attacks from Mr. Kyle. It is a shame that he cannot step back and see how his postings affect those people whom he chooses to sling his arrows of venom at. Again, thank you for your actions in this matter.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Mr. Moore;
Gotcha! Your research is found wanting and you would do well to reach out to Urban strategies Council which is located at 673 13th Street, Oakland Ca. 94512 or, of you are n really interested, I would deliver it to Mr. Kurhi at Daily Review offices in Hayward. Since you are not listed in phone book or Hayward’s GPS system of property owners even though you have much to say, I will hand deliver it rather than pay the postage of $1.08 demanded of those using overstuffed business envelopes. That might not occur until Monday or Tuesday of next week. Keep in touch with that gent.
To enlighten those who read the blog with open mind and capable of accepting fact, I offer the following:
1st.) Oakland has no area within the boundaries of that City which are directly administered by the County of Alameda.
Oakland shares some zip code areas with the City of Piedmont which, as you might guess, lacks low income housing. Another zip code is shared with Emeryville but here again the count of parollees is thought largely attributable to Oakland.
The report from Urban Strategies indicates that Oakland ‘share of parollees was just 2,035 and Hayward Got awat with having just 514 while on the eastern portion of Alameda County, Citu=y of Pleasanton was heavily burdened with 5; Dublin labored under a load 37 and Livermore staggered with the burden of 47. Fremont’s share was 24 Newark was crushed with 51 and Union City writhed under they an exceedingly heavy load of 63 and Subol weeped about the curse of 2..
Well, Oakland and Hayward’s politicos have no right to complain. Hayward remains cool and silent while all those whine for Oakland should have no complaint ! Right?
I wonder if it was the whiners who brought and suvveeded with the law suit against Pleasanton over it’s refusal to accept ABAG’s pleadings about quotas and other such nonsense. Well, Pleasanton is not presently seen cursed with that burden in their schools which I think might be the case with Oakland and Hayward SCHOOLS given the FAMILY disruptions OCCURRING with recidivism, occurring in the first year of release at around 40% and at 52% at end of third year when supervision of the remainder is no longer necessary. There seems to be a note of dissidence in a Southern Calif University but who cares what they think…. Their estimate of 65^ to 70% at the end of 5th year, if accepted, is useless against a budget problem anyhow! Ewe just do not have money for more parole officers… besides it might have negative affect upon recruitment of more Tea Party Members.
You will love this bit….the combined count of parolees living in Oakland and Hayward on April 1, 2010 Ws 2,549 or just 66.5% of the total burden placed upon the entire county. Well, since our schools are so bad it must be assumed that we are at fault here in Oakland and Hayward for not having been more successful in our educational system….. Otherwise, who do we blame? Our brand of Booze? Do we foist the problem off to our teachers?
Now I have only related data pertinent to the accopunting records of April 6, 2020. Some more data was released showing the count in July 2010 which was pertinent to that classification of law breakers known as “Probationers” That group saw a count increase from April 2009 at 10,840 to 12,369 as of July 2010.
Where thje count of parollees totaled 3,534 on Apriln 6, 2010.. The countof parolees as of Oactober 4th was 4,332 but only 4,293 had zip code identity. I do not think that the39 parollees who have not reported a zip code skews the Color coded zip code areas on the Map published by Urban Strategies Council If rhere is a deficiency blame it on the California Dept of Corrections whom we all know is shorthanded in it’s count of parole officers.
I say that HUSD’s problem is deep rooted in density of parolees in the two oldest Cities while Pleasanton seems to have deep roots in fallacious thought about supplying a share of low income housing. Then too those thoughts are alive and well In Union City, Fremont and Newark that are each well below that seen In Hayward. I am told but do not think it too much to consider as a factor in future ‘sharing’ of responsibility that there is a similar imbalance in distribution of Section 8 monies. Perhaps redevelopment money ought be used to aid a leveling of the playfield?
Ar one time parolees were released to the City in which they lived at the time they committed their offense. Perhaps we ought revise that since we now release them to the County in which they resided. I wonder how many felons lived in Pleasanton when they committed their offense?
Of course Ms. Booth will take issue with the facts as I present them to you. What say you to the fact that Schools such as Longwood have been affected by low income housing such as is seen in South Garden Area. Longwood is just one of several which are harmed by very high rates of transience as well as truancy. The identity of zip 94541 as being the very worst in Hayward, must have similar affect upon the other schools with the possible exception of Burbank which I suspect is experiencing an influx of students from nearby new housing development.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
John,you are simply just wrong. I live in Hayward, and have for some 25 years. That you cannot find me is OK with me. We have met and sat next to each other, though you did not evidence even the slightest recognition. By the way by right next to each other I would suggest you recall the last meeting at Longwood High.
Because of your lack of skill in typing, I cannot follow your presentation. As near as I can tell you continue along alone. It will be sad when you realize at last how alone you really are.
You did not refute what I said. I know you cannot do that since it is a fact. The Bureau of Corrections decides where they want to parole people and where they stick them is up to them. The majority for Alameda County go where in to 94541 which is mostly unincorplorated Alameda County.
Nate Miley knows this. Just ask him or Seth. Also there is not much any of us will ever be able to do about it. Get used to it.
May 19th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Mr. Moore,
You are right on so many points, but as you say he will never be able to admit that someone other than he is factually correct. What he does with his typing and rambling is that old ploy of diversion…confuse and baffle the reader so that they forget what the point was or wasn’t in the first place. Correct me if I am wrong, but transciency is not solely the cause of the recently released offenders.
I have lived in Hayward my entire life and even when I was a child there were people moving in and out of my neighborhood schools; families who would take extended vacations in the middle of the school year; families who went where the harvesting was happening or where the canneries were up and running. Did we have recent offender releases, probably but they were just one of many causes in the equation.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:23 am
Mr. Moore;
I am fully cognizant of the size of 94541 and the fact that a portion of 94541 finds two schools of San Lorenzo District as well as two schools of HUSD North of West A and west of Foothill.
Fairview and Strobridge are also in the District as is Markham
Right off hand, with out going through what might laughingly be called a file system. I know what I am about and will use \the Fiscal year 2010- 2011 data when school district closes and their enrollments, transfers and Hooky data and unreported transience is collated.
Fairview as an example is a nearly finished totally new school not yet opened. Will probably open after next Christmas Holidays. That school serves the unincorporated area involving Kelly Hill.
Unfortunately it too had a high count of truancy as well as enrollment.
Cherryland has a high count and related problems in very old construction as does Longwood. It also has a very high concentration of not only parolees but an even higher count of Probationers. 94541 suffers the very highest count of parolees and probationers…. over all the other zip codes of Hayward !.
I do not accept your statement about how the Dept of Correction sends those released hither and thither. I read the law on that subject two years ago and I found an interpretation differing from what you describe but I will use computer access to that data and if I am correct I will send you a copy for your perusal. If I am wrong and you are right I will advise that also. At this writing I am confident of ability to recall those factors.
Now, if I choose to ‘waste my time’ doing an analysis of the affect of recidivism upon school attendance and ADA payments…. What do you care? I have lived in Hayward since early in first quarter of 1961. I first took my home on a lease basis and bought it two years later when my children were accepted at St. Joachim’s. That Parish school, a class C masonry building, which met all the requirements of the Riley Act was built entirely by Volunteers one of whom was a practicing member of the Jewish Faith whose grandchildren aspired to be enrolled. in early 1950’s. Most male parents were former Military service guys who had gone to College on Vet entitlements. One successful member was executive officer of SF Bay Conservation District He had once held the U.S. Navy equivalent of the Army‘s ‘field grade’ officers. I found the ‘spirit of volunteerism’ most attracting after becoming familiar with Hayward as a Real Estate Appraiser. Previously I had been a loan officer at the Bank’s Castro Valley office.
As an appraiser with recognition of skills by employers it became even more challenging assignments took me throughout the Bay Area and south along Highway I-5 and over the Hill along I-80 or up to Eureka and the Sacramento area of influence. Since retirement on disability basis at age 60 in 1991 I have volunteered service to the community outside of the Parochial school involvement The count of that sort of activity includes nothing less than 24 ad hoc groups or ‘task forces‘ as they are sometimes described.. Up until about a year and a half ago I frequently attended meetings of both City Council and Board of Trustees. I have frequently made a point of running my eyes over the City’s website to observe the terrific spirit of the numbers of ‘Commissions’ established by the City. When all the seats are filled there are over a hundred volunteers involved with those ten ’commissions’
Now you advise that you have lived in Hayward for 25 years and I do not recall ever, not even once, observing you as a participant at City and School opportunities for volunteerism.
Perhaps you can enlighten me on that subject with a recitation of your experience as a volunteer in community or possibly your talents as an employee of City or HUSD.
Would you care to chirp a bit on that subject?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:27 am
Ms. Booth.
Which of my submissions were yanked by Mr. Kurhi ?
I do not notice any recently submitted items by me as being missing.
Than k you for your concern on that subject.
May 20th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Mr. Kyle,
I refer you to your diatribe on Oscar GrantIII. Check see if you can find that sick piece of writing…It is gone. Check my posting at #35, I immediately responded to your viscious spew..Since there remains no posting mentioning the Grant family, why on God’s earth would I post #35? Oh, I forgot, it must be my unstable mental state that you constantly refer to. I must have been hallucinating. You will someday have to answer for your ugliness.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Moore;
You recognized me but how was I to recognize you if at last meeting no one was siting at my right side. Perhaps you are the chap who was in the wheel Chair sitting more closely to the middle of the isle and slightly forward of my seat.
Apparently, if that was you, and you recognized me, you might have gained a friend. While I would have, in all honesty reserved that classification of acquatences, until some point later in time.
You took the opportrunity to state that I have no friends. If Friends are limited to the blog, you are absolutely correct. I make no bones about the fact that most (but not all) contributors to the blog are seen by me as being inane.
Whatever it was that you spoke abour, if indeed you are the chap in the wheelchair, has escaped me. If that was not you… let it pass,
By the way Longwood is not Longwood Hi; it is a k-6 shcool largely conducted in portables and which suffered a loss when the Leroy Green funds were not properly applied to that school where the guys involved failed to recognize that the electrical; contractor, based in San Joaquin Valley won the bid based on the Union wage prevailing in San JoAQUIN cOUNTY … THE STUFF HIT THE FAN WHEN THE FIRST PAYCHECKS WEER HANDED OUT ON THAT JOB…. SHUT IT DOWN FOR WEEKS AND THE REPLACEMENT WINDIOWS DEAL WAS ABANDNNED. i SUSPECT THAT A RECENT GRANT WAS USED TO REPLACE THE WINDOWS AT FRONT ELEVATION TO REMOVE THE STIGMA OF BENIGN NEGLECT ALONG lONGWOOD aVE.
have fun carping over the volunteer efforts I offer HUSD. It costs them nothing and who knows, they have accewpted my suggestions in the past about which I offer you no description for the obvious reasons.
I shall undetrtake to do what I intend to do when the report for school year absences and truancy is concluded fOr FISCAL YEAR 2010 – 2011.
Thanks for Your crticAl interst ! You are right about one thing I have lost a few friendS but then since I am closer to my 81st Birthday than I am tO 80.I continue on with those who are left as well as the many acquaitences at church who compliment me for the scribbles I frquently see published on the editorial page.
Good luck in all your valuable contributions as a volunteer in City and HUSD matters.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Mr. Kyle,
I see that you decided to ignore my last posting that answered your question. Not to worry, I printed a copy of your vengeful, vile, nasty diatribe about Oscar GrantIII and his family. I am only hoping that someone will ask to see it to confirm just how hateful and demented you truly are.
You know and I know that it was posted at approximately 1:00pm yesterday and was suddenly gone at 4:30. I have it and I will keep it until such time as it is needed for confirmation of the posting.
You won’t escape this time. Someone, maybe God, will make you answer for your actions.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Sorry for the misinformation Mr. Kyle, you posted that garbage on May 18,2011 at approximately 1pm. Not that you need a reminder.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Booth;
Thank you! I know that of which I spoke. The lad’s home was on Longwood’s south side, 4th from corner of Teakwood. My rear Property line fence corner is only 50 feet awat from the right rear corner of the home which was occupied by the lad and his dead by suicide brother; both left to the mother by the father who remains in the slammer for a major felonious crime…… no parole in sight but he, the Dad was also announced that he too was suing because he is now without visitors i.e. his two dead sons. Home was a rental and left in a real shambles when they moved out…. major water damage in bath, broken windows, major dammage to bedroom walls and windows and front doors left hanging on one hinge, sheetrock damage done by heavy blows and of course scribbles all over some of the interior walls.
When * 3 diws hw was on parole… at age 22. He had not married his child’s mother per newd account…
But # 3 had good intentions he had planned to take the child to an amusement park.
Of course it is our fault that society let these kids down. EWspecially the older one who shot himself in the mouth. Poor kid… not as violent as # 3 but often semn in bling staggers, without full clothin, shirtless early and I mean early in the morning while dragging a filthy blanket and carrying a pillow. Principal at Longwood advised another segment lived in South Garden vicinity and that a female from the second household was known to go door to door seeking donations so that she could purchase disposable diapers for her young child… did she ever knock on your door?
Too bad if they had been your neighbors you would have aided resolution of their plight. Right? Were not your neighbors?
# 3′s child was awarded a One Million dollar payout by BART and Mom wants another……such sum.
Your highly charitable attitude serves you well !
Good night…. Good.bys! Good luck !
May 21st, 2011 at 8:27 am
Smart move this time you left out the actual name. I will save this document also for future use by anyone who may need it to pursue action against you. You are a vile man, and everyday you display it. Some Christian you are John Kyle.
May 21st, 2011 at 11:10 am
Booth;
# 48 just drools with evidence of your own problem !THE THINLY VEILED THREAT REVEALS THE TURMOIL within your mind.
Take that Baptismal certificate, in your possession as you stated last summer, carry it to your Pastor as you described him to be…. seek out the basis of your problem…. especially the auggestioon that you would use my contributions as a threat of violence if mailed to that poor mother whose boys were sadlt neglected when society failed her sons.
sOME WOULD INTERPRET TOUR REMARK AS AN ATTEMPT AT SOME FORM OR VARIATION OF BLACKMAIL,.
On your way to your pastor’s door… stop at some of the churches and chapels along the way…. seek some guidance …SOON!
ETERNITY IS A LONG TIME TO SUFFER THE CONSTANT, ETERNAL ANGUISH OF REGRET!
May 21st, 2011 at 11:54 am
oh My God John Kyle,
I have not threatened you in any manner. I would not mail anything to Mrs. Grant or anybody else. You are the person who sends unsolicited mail. You are the one who needs guidance, I have no regrets Mr. Kyle, except that I could find no legal way to stop your constant attacks on innocent people who choose to communicate with fellow residents about that which is important…children.
Keep it up. Someday maybe the powers that be at this blog will see that you do nothing but cause pain to others.
May 21st, 2011 at 12:05 pm
John, do you prefer the Salesians or the Christian Brothers for your model of education?
May 21st, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I prefer the Dominicans or the Sisters of Charity founded by Juaquina da Verna.
All groups of people have those that we need to be protected from.
May 21st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
bOOTH;
aS EXPECTED… DENIAL !
mOORE;
wHAT IS YOUR NEED TO KNOW?
May 21st, 2011 at 2:51 pm
I have been reading the latest on why priests abuse children. Knowing well John’s intimate contact with the children at St Joachims I was wondering if he was more a Salesian follower or a Christian Brother/Franciscan. Given his efforts at exposition I am certain he is no Jesuit fan.
May 21st, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Moore.
To begin’ let me state that I am in truth a fan of the jesuits. I graduated from BELLARNINE PREP IN SAN JOSE.
MY MOTHER-IN LAW’S ONLY BROTHER Was a Jesuit who was ordained in the year 1930, ABOUT 4 MONTHS PRIOR TO MY BIRTN AND 8 MONTHS PRIOR TO MY WIFE’S BIRTH and who died two weeks after celebrating Mass at his Mother’s Funeral IN 1946 OR THERE ABOUT.
My Father-in-law’s nephhew was also a Jesuit who entered the ordrer on August 1, 1939 AT at the minimum age precisely set at 17.5 years In early 1957 JUST BEFORE NY TWO YEARS OBLIGATORY SERVICE WAS COMPLETED, I visited him him in Rome while in the Army… he gave me the grand tour of Rome, the City, not the Vatican but did take me to The office of the Jesuit Genaral who I belive was celebrating Mass in Nagsaki Japan at the very instant that he was celebrating Mass. the A bomb went off and tHE CHURCH WAS barely BELOW A RIDGE LINE AND HE SURVIVED.
My wife’s cousin was teaching Theology at the Gregorian University and had mentiod to one of the priests that I was in town AND HAD had attended Bellarnine. That Priest re-membered me and saked the cousin to bring him by the Jesuit HQ where he was Secretary to the Boss. Fr. John excused himself while we from Bellarmnine went over some old memories….as Fr John H. Wright left the room my old Geometry Teacher says to me… ‘ do you know who HE is…. startled me.. hesitated a bit as he says that is one of the very bright ones, he just published a book in Latin entitled, “The order of the Universe according to The theology taught by Thomas Acquinas” Your cousin is bright … when he returns I will pull his leg a bit.. watch the re-action! So when Cousin returns to the room forner teacher says to him..” you are in trouble iwth the boss”… which shocked the cousin who mumbled something about Imprimator from Cardinal so & so as well as ‘Nihil obstat’ From Cardinal watz ‘is name….. Jansens, the Jesuit Genaral was strictly business so we heard Fr Cousin say, rather nervously “What is the problem? …. pregnant pause….You forgot to autograph his copy,,,, it is on the desk… do it now!
They are serious men the Jesuits and I never put the knock on any of them!
Now the response to your last post follows..
read it carefully !. good night!
Moore:
This is not the first time that you have raised the issue of molestation of children by R.C Priests. I suspect ulterior motive, now that you again turn to the subject, especially since you expressed yourself extensively on the matter, quite soon after you commenced making contributions to the blog.
The bitterness that I initially read emanating from your several contributions, suggested to me that you were probably one of those types who express deep seated animus toward the R.C. Church. At the time it completely escaped me.
I had put you into that particular compartment of my mind that is filled with those instances, which I personally experienced, privately as well as with others of the faith, where the animus originated with the results of actions taken by Martin Luther and/or Henry VIII. As with conditions in Ulster, that part of Ireland’s island still under the thumb of the English. My paternal great grandfather, a protestant, married a Catholic woman, making it impossible to stay since his ’traitorous act’ caused immediate dismissal from his job.
That you may have been one of the victims of an unfortunate priest completely escaped me. I use the word ‘unfortunate‘ because they have at least momentarily, but possibly in the ‘perpetual’ sense, placed themselves beyond the pale of the Church. I do not take on the role of castigating them… my sense of justice in those particular matters is abandoned by me in the sincere belief that I am not qualified to deal with those offenders. I believe that it is between that offender and our creator; which is to say, judge not lest you be judged.
As for the other types of individuals who express animus by word or action, I have that defect which is common among those of Irish descent, to express on occasion rather vehemently, my disgust with their attitude. Fortunately I have never resorted to physical violence. Possibly because of the fact that until entering my marriage when I stood at 6’ 2” I did not weigh more than 150 lbs. However I ‘had a mouth’ and in one instance I wound up with a black and blue area that closed my right eye for several days.
On that occasion, when working as a summer hire as a scullion on the Matson Company’s passenger vessel, ‘Lurline’ which operated between two California ports and Honolulu, I was groped by another, while bending down over some broken dishes in the galley. At 17 while still in High School, and unaware of the fact ‘Lurline’ was known on the waterfront as ‘queerline’. I let out an expletive bit of advice that there would be major trouble if that occurred again. I was not prepared for what happened next.
Passing along a narrow ship’s passage way seeking a well deserved rest, a door opened and I was yanked into a room, crowded with spectators, where the offender struck me across the ear. Having been on the boxing team a year earlier, I fought back with closed fist but took a pounding on my right side of my face before being thrust out the door with the advice to ’watch my mouth’ and submit when needed.
The next day a young, highly attractive mulatto woman, working as a stewardess, noticing my closed and blackened right eye, she said nothing, but little did I know that she held a strong office in the Marine Cooks and Stewards Union. Another scullion, a giant of a man, who happened to be Negro, approached with the remark that my problem would not re-occur if I cared to bunk with the black guys; the invitation was followed with the remark that all were ‘straight’ in the voluntarily segregated ‘colored’ quarters. I learned a lot from that experience. Nearing ‘lights out the ‘giant’ and another tall slim fellow entered the foc’sle holding the much shorter offender each by an arm with feet dangling above the deck, I was advised to take a swing. I refused where upon the advice was do you want the other eye ‘closed‘? Unsports-man like but aware of my good fortune I popped the guy lightly, where upon the two tall protectors offered the advice that ‘white boys never chopped no cotton’! The next thing that happened was that the attacker was told, in no uncertain terms, that guys like you are unwelcome on this ship so when we reach L.A. you are to be seen as the first down crew’s gangway. … and he was ! No more trouble for me!
The stewardess later became a realtor with offices on Telegraph Ave near Berkley. An activist seeking to aid paroled felons find work, she was shot dead in the doorway of her home by an ex-con that she had been trying to aid. Her daughter had married Huey Newton but that had nothing to do with the death. Thinking back to the persecutions in Rome, I recall thinking that this lady too was a martyr in the true meaning of that word.
I think you might find it interesting to know that those who are most anguished over the molestation of children are those priests who labor on while remaining true to their vows of chastity.
I recall having submitted some data on the blog that you may have missed or if you did read them you ignored the facts found in that data which was published in a newspaper in a state adjacent Kentucky where my daughter now lives. Louisville Ky was the scene of a prolonged attack by anti-catholic forces who lynched over 140 Catholics who were snatched off the streets after attending Sunday Mass, or dragged from their homes. They were lynched in the finest tradition of bigots and when suspects were questioned, they gave birth to the idea that the region was the birthplace of the ‘know nothing party’.
Not too many years ago a Jewish business owner published the results of an independent study that he had commissioned with his own money. In that article he offered advice to Catholics that they hold their head up and reminded readers that the great many R. C. Church sponsored Elementary and High Schools had saved taxpayers across the nation, a great many millions of dollars that relieved advocates of public schools who in the absence of Catholicism, would have had to construct and pay teachers, for something in the neighborhood of 700,000 students at pre-college facilities existent in the U.S.
The study went on to remind of the large count of Catholic Hospitals who ‘took in’ many indigent and other uninsured patients to provide a savings of $100’s of millions in expense to taxpayers for construction and operation of those facilities. He went on to reveal the surprising numbers of Colleges and Universities sponsored by the R.C Church and it’s considerable numbers of those involved with the many existent religious orders of nuns, brothers and priests.
In conclusion he advised Catholics to ‘hold up their heads, weather the storm, and be loyal to the faith, which inspires the sacrifices of wealth, which the public would not be able to meet if Bishops closed all the above described facilities. Note too that it was not until the early 1960’s that the ‘ad valoren property taxes’ upon Catholic Schools facilities was lifted off the backs of Catholics. California was the very last to do this; it took three attempts, ( between 1932 and 1962), at the ballot, to achieve that property tax relief and in the last vote, the successful vote, found Masonic Order still contributing, from it’s eastern lodge HQ, a large amount in it’s attempt to continue that tax. For purposes of fairness, be reminded that rectories and convents continue to be taxed as residential properties.
He ,our Jewish benefactor, did not suggest that we cease prayers for the offenders who in the final analysis, are to be judged by God and not by mere opinions of the broad American public who fail understanding of the embarrassment experienced by those fellow citizens described as Catholics.
During the course of the dialogue published by that businessman of the Hebrew Faith he suggested that the statistics he had gathered caused him to wonder why the sexual activities of Protestant and Hebrew clergymen had not been given equal attention in the press. His statistics, in his opinion, were worthy of publication He also provided them in his article, but he wisely suggested that attention had been drawn to R.C Church, in the belief that it had deeper pockets resulting from the number of Hospitals, Universities, Colleges and K- 12 schools which are commonly seen as an indication of deep pockets. I can only imagine he was fearful of broken glass at his store windows.
Judging by my memory of your earlier submissions to the blog involving this topic, especially that singular moment, when I recall that you had predicted the dissolution of the Catholic Church within 20 years. I reacted negatively. Reminding that the Faith had been around 2,000 years! I should have just shrugged my shoulders and offered an ‘aspiration‘, ( a short prayer) for your own mental health. Perhaps: “God, forgive him, he does not realize what he is saying.”) Perhaps you are one of the victims to be remembered when I attend Mass tomorrow morning. In fairness, you in your turn can ‘get off my back’ !
If you are motivated by a negative relationship with a ‘spoiled priest’ I offer regrets and a prayer now and then to the effect that your personal relationship with our common Creator, is not entirely in a state of disconnect.
Good night !
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:25 am
John, what a fine story to share with young people. Look how far we have grown. The world will miss these inspiring vignettes. I hope your grandchildren have rendered these to oral history and that you have offered these to the Hayward Historical Society. These are of such value. You evince such love for God’s creation.
May 22nd, 2011 at 11:26 pm
All,
It’s a grand thing that was announced on Channel 5 Kpixnews cast at 11:00 pm. on Sunday May 22.
O’Bama’s mother had a great grandparent who emmigrated from Count Donnegal in Ireland!
Will that toss the tea leafs in the tea pot of the tea party in next year’s election!
Now I no longer need to refer to him as O’Bama of County Kenya !
May 24th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
In reviewing the Agenda for tomorrow night, I came across the information on Mapping the Road to Fiscal Recovery. In the documentation there are additional considerations listed eliminating 2 High School Assistant Principals ($260,000), 5 Elementary Counselors ($445,000) and a Parcel Tax Survey ($30,000). I’m not certain, but following this, it seems these reductions would balance out to roughly the same amount as closing Faith Ringgold. I’m not sure if these are additional reductions being proposed or if they are looking to swap these two items out. As a member of FITAG, I can assure you that no members of this group wanted to see any school closed. However, I can also tell you that I am ABSOLUTELY opposed to any further reductions in student services district-wide. If we again turn to making cuts impacting thousands of students, we have lost our focus. The objective of FITAG was to look at the big picture. The big picture here are the kids. What services and programs benefit the most number of students, impacting their every day learning experience. If anyone knows why these new reductions are appearing, please let me know. Thanks!
May 24th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Ms. Rocchio,
While I understand your reasoning and arguments for closing FR..I still must insist that you also look at the big picture from another angle. The reason that Charter schools have taken hold in districts, including HUSD, is that there were no options for parents or students..They must fit into those one size fits all boxes or risk academic and personal failure. I am here to tell you that my Gifted grandson’s experiences at the Charquin Program are what saved him once he was forced into the “box” in Milpitas, a district that consistantly outscores HUSD.
His understanding of himself, his courage to challenge, his determination to succeed inspite of the “box” was developed and nurtured in the Charquin/Faith Ringgold philosophy. If HUSD had studied and implemented only half of what this methodology contains, many of the woes HUSD now experiences may have been eliminated. Budgetary slashes do not impede success. FR students and parents don’t recognize “can’ts” they constantly make lemonade out of the bitterest lemons.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:41 am
Booth;
One wonders why FR was an idea not adopted by Castro Calley, San Lorenzeo, San Leandro, Dublin, Pleasanton, Livermore, Fremont, Union City or, Newark.
Could it be that Hayward was the patsy for those students who arrived here, at Markham, from other districts. Why hasn’t Almreda County Supt. of Schools ‘instructed’ HUSD to continue the great effort?
May 25th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Ms. Booth,
I don’t mean to commend one service over another. I agree that, for those students that thrive under the programs offered at Faith Ringgold, this school is priceless. I definitely appreciate the value of charters and what they offer out community.
My question is not whether or not FR offers a valid program, but why are we now looking at cutting yet another invaluable service from our students? Why elementary counselors? Is this to quiet the storm of parents and teachers? Is it to make additional savings should the tax extension not work out?
The very advantages your grandson reaped from Charquin are the same things I am concerned about on a grand scale. Elementary school is a critical time in the development of our children. They are constantly facing challenges and circumstances often beyond their control. There are thousands of our students that do not fit into the “box” created in HUSD. These counselors are trained professionals that help our students deal with so many issues. I know you are aware of that the diversity of our community plays host to issues ranging from serious emotional to the most basic of physical needs. The counselors are there to help these students develop the skills to grow positive attitudes and offer crisis intervention. They foster a healthy learning environment in the most difficult situations. They offer resources that would often be unattainable to so many of our children. These children ALL deserve to know that they are OK and learn to have a healthy view of who they are and what they can be. The character development of these kids plays a key role in our academic environment and should not be under-valued. Counselors are an important part of a team of professionals serving our students.
After many hours of meetings, I am aware that the reductions must come from somewhere. My main objective is to make sure that the needs of our students are the first thought when considering where these cuts hit. Like I said before, I am deeply opposed to any cuts that will affect this number of students on such an important level. I would hope that the parents of any student served by this program would be made aware that this consideration was before the Board. They too should have the opportunity to express their feelings on this reduction. I worry about last minute “substitutions” not allowing the community to voice their concerns equally. That is a problem for me. I know the whole squeaky wheel theory, so I guess I am just trying to squeak for those who may not have all of the information.
May 25th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Ms.Rocchio,
I truly appreciate your thoughts and concerns and they are ones that I have held for probably more years than you have been alive. Throughout the years I have advocated for the rights of all students to be afforded opportunities to thrive academically and socially. I hope that you did not think that I am a supporter of Charter Schools, for that is far from where I stand. Charter schools take from our students and do not enhance the welfare of our district.
I think that the “new” proposed cuts are a smoke screen of some sort. I do not believe that the BOE will cut districtwide services that benefit students to save one small school, and I would not want that to happen. I simply was expressing why I believe that Faith Ringgold is an option that should be saved. I would never advocate saving the few at the expense of the many.
Mr. Kyle,
Your questions are as usual simply designed for you to attack and belittle any answer I might offer. Sorry but you will have to argue with yourself.
May 25th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Booth;
As usual, you dodge the thought! You sp[eaqk of attacks against you……personally, or against yout argument?
Or, are you guided that it must be the thought that mi response and enwuiry, is personal …. after all, how could you possibly be on the wrong side of an uissue ?
Or, once again, is denial a substitue for logic?
May 25th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Mr.kyle,
Perhaps if you could find a typist to assist you it would be easier for readers to understand what it is you are trying to post.
If you could simply argue against an opinion that would be acceptable. However, in my case you cannot resist throwing in your little personal jibes. I truly think that is because in many instances you cannot provide a logical, factual basis for your responses…so the best way to continue your discourse is to resort to innuendo, mis-statement of fact, misinformation, lies, name callling etc.
I am so glad that you are in your senior years. God forbid if you were a teen and used the tactics that you employ on this blog, some unsuspecting young person would be the victim of your cyber-bullying. Instead you choose to strike at the adult world. You are a cyber-bully Mr. Kyle, who thinks that he will be forever protected by his 1st Amendment. I do not believe the tactics you, and others of your type, employ will escape legislation. Maybe not in your time, but your kind will be stopped.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Kathi, America will not be better off if the public is protected by legislation from reading what he says. That his scribblings appear to be bullying, hateful, racist, sexist, ageist, spiteful, unpleasant, ungrammatical, indifferently written, generally petulant and pedantic is no reason to look for and encourage censorship of his point of view, which is that of simply being a troll. We should celebrate the diversity of his speech and repudiate his speech when required. The thread of life that maintains his thread has a destiny that is already known.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Mr. moore,
I am sorry but I completely disagree with you. No one has the right to proffer up personal information regarding another individual. No one has the right to step onto another’s property for the purpose of harassment. Whether you wish to accept it or not, the very same cyber-bullying acts that are done by teens to other teens are no different than what Mr. Kyle does on a regular basis to those he presumes to be adults…and they can have the very same devistating consequences.
While I am still able to hold my own with this bully, there are others who may not be. They are prohibited from joining a blog about their city and mutual interests because they cannot tolerate the attacks of a John Kyle. They may very well be vunerable, shut ins who rely upon the internet to reach outside the confines of their homes. Fear of men like John Kyle and his vile postings results in their not participating. Is it a choice? I suppose it is, but is the bullying of a John Kyle something that should be sanctioned under the guise of free speech? I don’t think so and there are others who share my views.
For every time he offers up something that may be considered as being worthwhile for thought, there are countless other postings that are designed to allow him to be all powerful over the timid, the weak and the fearful. There is no excuse for him…I and others do not wish to wait until he meets his maker for John Kyle to have his “Come to Jesus” moment.
Mr. Kyle cannot silence me…to offer up silence is to condone what he does.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Ms, Booth;
Had you taken the time to read #3 ABOVE you might have come to a better understanding of the possibly lost opportunity to resolve the budget problem in it’s entirety. It is however not to late to take effective actions.
When it really matters that I get a point across I lay a foundation and construct the matter from bottom up.
Closure of FR provides opportunity to partially resolve our budget problem in the immediate future and see that solution aid resolve of the greater problem about 10 years distant from present time, assuming that action is immediate after the closure of Faith Ringold. If the students enjoying what ever is good about FR, then it becomes the responsibility of the County Supt. Of Schools and the board members of that institution to take the needed actions.
In the meantime read the well written submission, painfully written at night, ( to the distress of the glaucoma condition etc,) and with use of spell check corrected to a grammatically correct, detailed submission of some directions or steps to be taken by HUSD Trustees. It is important to note that last year after the painfully poor quality of the lease to that Charter School lease involving the Darwin site was brought to the attention of the Trustees, Supt Duran publicly spoke to the need for closer management skill application to of the Districts properties.
I had conversation with Mr. Armas shortly after the lease was signed and he agreed that HUSD sort of ‘blew it’ in that transaction. The previous team of Vigil and watz ‘is name
had received copies and plans as well as recent site photos taken from a long ago, appraisal undertaken by me and involving a multi-unit residential structure which I though thought might well work… on the Darwin site. They refused to list the property, for purpose solely intended to attract ’offers’ since it might have meant inability to meet Mayor Sweeney’s thought that they combine their separate needs for a new kitchen. HUSD for the current lunch program and Sweeney for his envisioned construction of a new kitchen dedicated to the Meals on Wheels program. Both of which were good but involved procrastination on the part of the County which created Meals on Wheels.
Mr. Armas, went on to describe some of his thoughts on future management of HUSD’s real estate holdings. The man’s mind is a jewel quite shiny on the present HUSD Board of Trustees.
I did not disclose that to you when you went on one of your trips of fantasy to suggest moving administration from it’s present quarters to Sunset High. Nobody attacked you on that suggestion although I recall making an attempt to address your suggestion on the basis of the fact that such a move would not only be economically unfeasible but impose logistical problems, even if there was space at Sunset…. Which is not the case.
Well read readers of the blog, know your reaction to what was a logical reply by myself. Zip ! Zero! You do not accept reason if it is contrary to what you think, even in matters about which you know nothing.
I again urge upon you a read of # 3 above. Further I challenge you to tell me why it ( # 3 ) is unacceptable, using logic rather than your obvious emotional input, which never solves anything.
Now, I have taken the time to use a word program to soften your next, (highly improbable,) response) ! I do not expect that # 3 will change your mind on the closure of FR. Hopefully, others might see it as decent attempt to dispel, at least to some extent, your personal but rather venial attacks upon my motives, character or intentions. In final analysis those poor aspersions directed to me in your scribbles, harm yourself rather than me.
On the subject of Oh Gee # 3… do what you will with it! Another $1,000,000 settlement by BART to Momma G. comes out of BART Fares to which expense I do not expose myself. The feet on the seat or ‘Picnic’ on the seat, attitude by many riders, turns me off however. my wife uses it on rare occasions to meet her sister and sister in law when visiting in Walnut Creek or Pleasanton for their sporadic shopping trips to sites well away from central Alameda County retail areas.
Be good, give all a report on your husband’s desired recovery and pass regards to members of LANGIA who are part of your local circle.
Finally, I am not a trespasser except in that one instance when THAT family vacated the home which they rented. In that instance, had you been able to read and discern factots whih seriously affect your home’s value as well as my own, the front edoor was hanging by a loose hinge, Yes I wnet in! It waqs done foe the purpose of alerting the indicated owner that his propety was in dire straits abd that neighborgood values were being seriously affected,,,,, which includes your own domicile lady! You might thank me for that effort.
Oh, Why would I attempt to silennce you…. I do not conciously indulge in ‘mental masturbation’ ….. although your silence would be appreciated…. it is beyond my poor talents or even nmy desire. Giving you enough rope to do the job yourself is as simple as letting time pass.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Once a bully always a bully John Kyle. I have no local circle and I do not know who or what LANGIA is. Once again you assume and presume to know so much about me and mine. There is room for disagreement on this blog, there is not room for your nasty swipes at people.
The only thanks you will ever get from me will be when you admit that you have over-stepped the bounds of decency in your efforts to discredit people who do not follow you lock step. Unlike you it is not important to me to control the actions or thoughts of others. I simply express my opinion, provide facts when possible, offer suggestions and as politely as possible disagree when I am moved to do so.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Ms. Booth,
Thank you for your respectful exchange regarding my post. These are the reasons I still occasionally visit this blog. I enjoy being able to share my concerns as well as get the viewpoint of others in a courteous and well spoken venue. While we may not always agree, I value your experiences and insight into these types of situations. It is always beneficial to hear someone share their perspective. Thanks!
May 25th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Ms. Rocchio,
I appreciate your passion for children, education, and equal opportunity for all. I think it is something that we have in common, regardless of whether we agree on every subject or not.
If fate is in our corner tonight, we will see Faith Ringgold saved without any “take aways” from student services for students. I will keep my fingers crossed.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Kathi, the law provides you with a vast array of legal remedies for the behavior that you have noted. You need only retain the counsel and you will find that he will be adequately restrained, or broken financially. Greater laws protecting you are not needed, in my opinion. Providence has already prepared a spot in any event that awaits those folks, regardless of your actions. Providence does not care about the belief system as Purgatory awaits under all circumstances. In his case he cannot type or talk his way out.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
legal representation is a costly choice…I thank you for your suggestion. If it is the case that legislation should not be an answer to the John Kyles of the world then would you say that teens do not need protection from cyber-bullies? Or is it that adults aren’t vunerable??
May 25th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
Mrs, Booth;
Since you refuse to read abd logically rebutt item # 3 sbove but instead resort to cheap shots which are lack-ing in logic and which are seen by some as a self inflicted wounds upon your own reputation, I dismiss you from further personal thought,
You simply are not worth offering further ideas, suggestions nor thoughts by me!
Suggest you spend more if yourself in dealing with Larry’s illness. It is quite serious as he himself described it to me when I found him at his job using oxygenduring the course of his workday.
May 26th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Kathi, the civil courts and existing law provide generous remedies that will work to your advantage to eliminate the pain inflicted by such as he. There are many fine attorneys that would be happy to encumber his estate and restrict him. You should consider such.
As for cyber bullies for the young, I suspect that the parental responsibilities are not as engaged as they should be. Being a teenager, while some time ago for me, is recalled vividly and without fondness. I was not bullied, nor was I a bully. It is just a miserable time of life.
Vulnerable people are vulnerable. They need professional help and should be encouraged to seek it out. The world does not need more and restrictive laws. IMHO if you are being cyberbullied, do not log on to the web, gain a new id, and start all over. Drop the bullies like a hot rock.
May 26th, 2011 at 8:40 am
All:
Now there is a pair… Moore and Booth’
Moore Incites Booth who is under mental stress….
Moore will hold her coat while she attacks the bully with wild figments of her imagination as the weapon of choice.
Do I detect moral bankruptcy permeating the blog?
!
May 26th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Mr. Moore,
So he wins.
May 27th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Kathi, you can either use the courts or not fight. Both are victories.