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		<title>By: john s</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2012/03/16/more-info-on-hayward-city-council-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-12463</link>
		<dc:creator>john s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i won&#039;t say i&#039;ll never vote for an incumbent, but in this year&#039;s council election i feel it&#039;s time for a change.

hayward has a reputation as being unfriendly to business and merchants.  i&#039;ll go further than that.  hayward is unfriendly to local developers, it&#039;s own residents, it&#039;s own youth, and UC students. 

i blame the incumbents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i won&#8217;t say i&#8217;ll never vote for an incumbent, but in this year&#8217;s council election i feel it&#8217;s time for a change.</p>
<p>hayward has a reputation as being unfriendly to business and merchants.  i&#8217;ll go further than that.  hayward is unfriendly to local developers, it&#8217;s own residents, it&#8217;s own youth, and UC students. </p>
<p>i blame the incumbents.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2012/03/16/more-info-on-hayward-city-council-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-12096</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Moore;


Kurhi has possession of thwe color coded map I sent him for your benefit.

That map shades the zip code areas for each zip in the county..... color shading indicates approximate density,Place of residence) of parollees and probationers existent as of mid year 2010
 It gives strong indication of the treason why ABAG sued Pleasanton for failing to meet goals for low income housing distributionj..... and why as a result of Pleasanton&#039;s failure to &#039;go along&#039;, their loss of ADA money due to truancy is quite minimal.

One would thoink that the teachers union, with it&#039;s problems over salaries in Hayward, would bring pressure upon their state organuization for a better method of distributing ADA money..... as between Hayward or Oakland against Pleasanton.

Frankly, I believe the best way to effect change in the disparity of distribution of ADA money aas between Pleasanton and Hayward/Oakland is to excercise the &#039;cure&#039; available in SB 1317 ! If that is controversial then the resultant uproar would effect the needed change!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Moore;</p>
<p>Kurhi has possession of thwe color coded map I sent him for your benefit.</p>
<p>That map shades the zip code areas for each zip in the county&#8230;.. color shading indicates approximate density,Place of residence) of parollees and probationers existent as of mid year 2010<br />
 It gives strong indication of the treason why ABAG sued Pleasanton for failing to meet goals for low income housing distributionj&#8230;.. and why as a result of Pleasanton&#8217;s failure to &#8216;go along&#8217;, their loss of ADA money due to truancy is quite minimal.</p>
<p>One would thoink that the teachers union, with it&#8217;s problems over salaries in Hayward, would bring pressure upon their state organuization for a better method of distributing ADA money&#8230;.. as between Hayward or Oakland against Pleasanton.</p>
<p>Frankly, I believe the best way to effect change in the disparity of distribution of ADA money aas between Pleasanton and Hayward/Oakland is to excercise the &#8216;cure&#8217; available in SB 1317 ! If that is controversial then the resultant uproar would effect the needed change!</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry Blair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael, I guess I am more of a futurist than you. What I am saying is that with an informed electorate, the vote counts more than the money that corrupts. That is what we the people have - the power to change the system. If we aren&#039;t falling for how moneyed interests tell us to vote, we can elect candidates who have ethics and integrity. If we follow the issues, we can know when to throw them out of office and will know how to do it quickly. It is a systematic flaw. An informed citenzenry is the solution. And if we can just learn to read,write and compute, the rest can be learned on the internet. It won&#039;t be long now before we won&#039;t even need to read and write to communicate online. 

Your idea does nothing for changing the system. It would further remove citizens from having to use their critical thinking to discriminate between those with integrity and those who are good with propaganda. We could lose the ability to know the difference. 

Look at how people are letting themselves be manipulated into believing stupid stuff about national candidates! As long as that happens, we cannot trust our fellow citizens to be the citizens that are required to have a democracy. 

John - yours is an interesting story. That&#039;s what we were talking about when we said you needed to get that down for the historical record! Someone should just copy and paste the stories you&#039;ve put on this blog for posterity. 

Times have changed a lot since those days.  I had an uncle who was in  the merchant Marines and he had great stories I enjoyed even as a child.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I guess I am more of a futurist than you. What I am saying is that with an informed electorate, the vote counts more than the money that corrupts. That is what we the people have &#8211; the power to change the system. If we aren&#8217;t falling for how moneyed interests tell us to vote, we can elect candidates who have ethics and integrity. If we follow the issues, we can know when to throw them out of office and will know how to do it quickly. It is a systematic flaw. An informed citenzenry is the solution. And if we can just learn to read,write and compute, the rest can be learned on the internet. It won&#8217;t be long now before we won&#8217;t even need to read and write to communicate online. </p>
<p>Your idea does nothing for changing the system. It would further remove citizens from having to use their critical thinking to discriminate between those with integrity and those who are good with propaganda. We could lose the ability to know the difference. </p>
<p>Look at how people are letting themselves be manipulated into believing stupid stuff about national candidates! As long as that happens, we cannot trust our fellow citizens to be the citizens that are required to have a democracy. </p>
<p>John &#8211; yours is an interesting story. That&#8217;s what we were talking about when we said you needed to get that down for the historical record! Someone should just copy and paste the stories you&#8217;ve put on this blog for posterity. </p>
<p>Times have changed a lot since those days.  I had an uncle who was in  the merchant Marines and he had great stories I enjoyed even as a child.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2012/03/16/more-info-on-hayward-city-council-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-12091</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 06:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ms. Blair;

The rate of residivism at end of first year of release is generally accepted as being 40% and AT end of 5th year use the number 50% ... some studies suggest that 65% TO 70% EVENTUALLY REPEAT A CRIME WHICH PUTS &#039;EM BACK IN THE CLINK.

aS A 17 YEAR OLD i FOUND A BETTER SUMMER JOB WHICH PAID BETTER MONEY AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT ROOM BOARD AND LAUNDRY SERVICE WAS INCLUDED.... IT ALSO ASSURED THAT i EARNED OVER TIME PAY AT RATE OF 1.5 X HORLY RATE AND SIMNJCE IT WAS ON A SHIP P-LYING BACK AND FORTH BWETWEEN cALIFORNIA AND hONOLULU, THT sATURDAYS AND Sundays at Sea were at ti,me and a half while work perforkmed while at California port was double time. That work was abord the KMJatson Liner &#039;Lurline&#039; and I was 6taken into protection from homosexuals by the black crew members who aqlso worked in the food pantries and galley.... living among the Black guys was an experience workedwhich I enjoyed since they protected me from the,many homosexuals working on the &#039;queerline&#039; as the ship was known along the waterf5r4ont.... hell I was just 17 AND NOT TOO &#039;STREET SMART&#039;  BUT THE BLACK GUYS EDUCATED ME TO THE REAL WORLD CONDITYIONS WHILE PROVIDING PROTECTION .... i WAS THE ONLY WHITE GUY IN THE SELF SEGREGATED BLACK SLEEPING QUARTERS.... AND IT WAS AN EDUCATONAL EXPERIENCE THAT STOOD ME WELL IN A JESUIT SCHOOL ELECUTION CLASSES WHERE ABOUT TWO OR THREE PER REPORT CARD PERIOD.... i CHOSE TO RELATE SOME OF THE STORIES I HAD HEARD, ABOUT HOW bLACK FOLKS CONTENDED WITH HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT PROBLEMS WHICH about when they first arrived in the Bay area.mY GRADES IMPROVED IN THAT SITUATION... AND MY ATTIUDE SERVED ME WELL WHEN DRAFTED INTO THE Army later in life.

 Yes it is derogatory! In that experience it was seen (heard) used to put down another....more often in a humorous way!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Blair;</p>
<p>The rate of residivism at end of first year of release is generally accepted as being 40% and AT end of 5th year use the number 50% &#8230; some studies suggest that 65% TO 70% EVENTUALLY REPEAT A CRIME WHICH PUTS &#8216;EM BACK IN THE CLINK.</p>
<p>aS A 17 YEAR OLD i FOUND A BETTER SUMMER JOB WHICH PAID BETTER MONEY AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT ROOM BOARD AND LAUNDRY SERVICE WAS INCLUDED&#8230;. IT ALSO ASSURED THAT i EARNED OVER TIME PAY AT RATE OF 1.5 X HORLY RATE AND SIMNJCE IT WAS ON A SHIP P-LYING BACK AND FORTH BWETWEEN cALIFORNIA AND hONOLULU, THT sATURDAYS AND Sundays at Sea were at ti,me and a half while work perforkmed while at California port was double time. That work was abord the KMJatson Liner &#8216;Lurline&#8217; and I was 6taken into protection from homosexuals by the black crew members who aqlso worked in the food pantries and galley&#8230;. living among the Black guys was an experience workedwhich I enjoyed since they protected me from the,many homosexuals working on the &#8216;queerline&#8217; as the ship was known along the waterf5r4ont&#8230;. hell I was just 17 AND NOT TOO &#8216;STREET SMART&#8217;  BUT THE BLACK GUYS EDUCATED ME TO THE REAL WORLD CONDITYIONS WHILE PROVIDING PROTECTION &#8230;. i WAS THE ONLY WHITE GUY IN THE SELF SEGREGATED BLACK SLEEPING QUARTERS&#8230;. AND IT WAS AN EDUCATONAL EXPERIENCE THAT STOOD ME WELL IN A JESUIT SCHOOL ELECUTION CLASSES WHERE ABOUT TWO OR THREE PER REPORT CARD PERIOD&#8230;. i CHOSE TO RELATE SOME OF THE STORIES I HAD HEARD, ABOUT HOW bLACK FOLKS CONTENDED WITH HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT PROBLEMS WHICH about when they first arrived in the Bay area.mY GRADES IMPROVED IN THAT SITUATION&#8230; AND MY ATTIUDE SERVED ME WELL WHEN DRAFTED INTO THE Army later in life.</p>
<p> Yes it is derogatory! In that experience it was seen (heard) used to put down another&#8230;.more often in a humorous way!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2012/03/16/more-info-on-hayward-city-council-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-12090</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 05:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sherry, you may disagree with the idea of not voting for incumbents.  My point is that after the first term in office, the focus is on getting elected and getting money for that election.  In short incumbency is about being bought by the special interests, unions, pacs and now super pacs.  We are so much well served by real citizen elected representatives that are here for just a single term.  This is the only way that these folks will begin to demand performance and transparency from staff and from the government.  After two years in office, the goal of the elected official is to sell him/herself to the special interest.  Just look at the support of individual politicians.  They are all corrupt in one way or another.  Vote the Rascals out.  

I think Bill Quirk is a smart guy.  He is not my first choice as a candidate and he has spent a great deal of time currying the favor and cash of his supporters.  Is Bill corrupt.  He is getting there.  He is supported by CalPers organizations.  He has not bucked them yet and for real change to happen he will have to.  My guess is he will not.  He is not an incumbent yet.  He could offer some service.  I personally would rather start with newbies that are not yet corrupted.  Let them try to make change.  And then work with a new one.  Quirk is the best candidate for the office he is running for.  After this present term he should leave or be voted out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sherry, you may disagree with the idea of not voting for incumbents.  My point is that after the first term in office, the focus is on getting elected and getting money for that election.  In short incumbency is about being bought by the special interests, unions, pacs and now super pacs.  We are so much well served by real citizen elected representatives that are here for just a single term.  This is the only way that these folks will begin to demand performance and transparency from staff and from the government.  After two years in office, the goal of the elected official is to sell him/herself to the special interest.  Just look at the support of individual politicians.  They are all corrupt in one way or another.  Vote the Rascals out.  </p>
<p>I think Bill Quirk is a smart guy.  He is not my first choice as a candidate and he has spent a great deal of time currying the favor and cash of his supporters.  Is Bill corrupt.  He is getting there.  He is supported by CalPers organizations.  He has not bucked them yet and for real change to happen he will have to.  My guess is he will not.  He is not an incumbent yet.  He could offer some service.  I personally would rather start with newbies that are not yet corrupted.  Let them try to make change.  And then work with a new one.  Quirk is the best candidate for the office he is running for.  After this present term he should leave or be voted out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi Booth</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2012/03/16/more-info-on-hayward-city-council-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-12089</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathi Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 01:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr.kyle you may disagree but that in fact is how I have had it explained to me.  Rather than set aside a certain number of units/parcels/homes whatever you wish to call them in the actual development; the city has agreed to allow a developer to designate equivalent money to be used in another project that is specifically targeted for low income housing.  Usually these projects are handled by Eden Housing.

Throwing out the &quot;good old guys&quot; does not seem to work.  I think it may be because when the newly elected settle in they are overtaken by the same mentality that was there befor the election...then we essentially have a new set of &quot;good old guys&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.kyle you may disagree but that in fact is how I have had it explained to me.  Rather than set aside a certain number of units/parcels/homes whatever you wish to call them in the actual development; the city has agreed to allow a developer to designate equivalent money to be used in another project that is specifically targeted for low income housing.  Usually these projects are handled by Eden Housing.</p>
<p>Throwing out the &#8220;good old guys&#8221; does not seem to work.  I think it may be because when the newly elected settle in they are overtaken by the same mentality that was there befor the election&#8230;then we essentially have a new set of &#8220;good old guys&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry Blair</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2012/03/16/more-info-on-hayward-city-council-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-12088</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t like the Saklin Rd idea either. We need to treat low income families the same as others and not relegate them to some distant corner. It&#039;s time to stop dividing people into gated communities and gettos, especially if we are going to continue to underpay young people on the bottom of the corporate ladder. Why should developers get to divide us to make a profit. 

I didn&#039;t get your &quot;uppity&quot; remark either, John.  

There&#039;s a new book out - Going Solo. The author found that the trend is going toward living alone - more than 1 in 7 people! Do we have enough housing for them? Do we relegate them to some other corner too? 

Also, maybe the paroles are in 94541 but so is the police department! Also, in my neighborhood in 94541, crime is committed by young people, who are lowest on the low income scale if you compare by age groups. Does anyone know what the crime rate is among paroles? 

I do agree with John Kyle about Michael&#039;s solution being too draconian. I don&#039;t want to pay for the time it takes to bring new people up to speed and hope they will be different than their predicessors. Let candidates be educated on their own time. 

Further, I think the problem is that democracy requires citizen&#039;s taking responsibility and participating. That is how we get good people in office.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t like the Saklin Rd idea either. We need to treat low income families the same as others and not relegate them to some distant corner. It&#8217;s time to stop dividing people into gated communities and gettos, especially if we are going to continue to underpay young people on the bottom of the corporate ladder. Why should developers get to divide us to make a profit. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get your &#8220;uppity&#8221; remark either, John.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a new book out &#8211; Going Solo. The author found that the trend is going toward living alone &#8211; more than 1 in 7 people! Do we have enough housing for them? Do we relegate them to some other corner too? </p>
<p>Also, maybe the paroles are in 94541 but so is the police department! Also, in my neighborhood in 94541, crime is committed by young people, who are lowest on the low income scale if you compare by age groups. Does anyone know what the crime rate is among paroles? </p>
<p>I do agree with John Kyle about Michael&#8217;s solution being too draconian. I don&#8217;t want to pay for the time it takes to bring new people up to speed and hope they will be different than their predicessors. Let candidates be educated on their own time. </p>
<p>Further, I think the problem is that democracy requires citizen&#8217;s taking responsibility and participating. That is how we get good people in office.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2012/03/16/more-info-on-hayward-city-council-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-12084</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Booth;

I disagree....to satisfy a fee charge you let &#039;em build a low income project  in lieu of building low income needs at another location (or another project....??? )  In effect you compound the fee load
 at a seconde site........the construction lender would have some questions about that !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booth;</p>
<p>I disagree&#8230;.to satisfy a fee charge you let &#8216;em build a low income project  in lieu of building low income needs at another location (or another project&#8230;.??? )  In effect you compound the fee load<br />
 at a seconde site&#8230;&#8230;..the construction lender would have some questions about that !</p>
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		<title>By: John Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/hayword/2012/03/16/more-info-on-hayward-city-council-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-12078</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moore;

At # 49 above, your advice is draconian!!

Too severe! Wipe &#039;em out?

Then replace them with others who have no undserstanding of the functions of governement at differing levels from City To County  and then National offices?

Come on! Get real!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moore;</p>
<p>At # 49 above, your advice is draconian!!</p>
<p>Too severe! Wipe &#8216;em out?</p>
<p>Then replace them with others who have no undserstanding of the functions of governement at differing levels from City To County  and then National offices?</p>
<p>Come on! Get real!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi Booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathi Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr.Kyle,
The Saklin Rd. project was used to satisfy developer&#039;s fees for low income housing.  I checked with an ex city council member and the developer did not wish to include low income units in their development.  I have no idea what you are speaking of when you say low income folks have become uppity.  They go where the housing is located; perhaps it is the developers of mid and high income housing that are the uppity ones.

I have lived all my life with people from all backgrounds, yes even parolees...their parenting skills fall into the same range as those of most children.  Some parents, yes even wealthy educated parents, simply do not provide the best of role modeling nor the best guidance for the lives of their children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.Kyle,<br />
The Saklin Rd. project was used to satisfy developer&#8217;s fees for low income housing.  I checked with an ex city council member and the developer did not wish to include low income units in their development.  I have no idea what you are speaking of when you say low income folks have become uppity.  They go where the housing is located; perhaps it is the developers of mid and high income housing that are the uppity ones.</p>
<p>I have lived all my life with people from all backgrounds, yes even parolees&#8230;their parenting skills fall into the same range as those of most children.  Some parents, yes even wealthy educated parents, simply do not provide the best of role modeling nor the best guidance for the lives of their children.</p>
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