The Dublin Raiders?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, January 11th, 2008 at 3:17 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Update: A Raiders spokesman called to say the club was continuing to negotiate in good faith with Oakland and Alameda County regarding a stadium lease extension and that the Dublin visit was purely educational in nature.
In a revised version of the story in the East Bay Business Times, director of finance and technology Tom Blanda said his comments regarding Dublin were “hypothetical and not based on any desire to move the club.”
Dublin Mayor Janet Lockhart told the East Bay Business Times Friday that the Raiders are interested in building a stadium on the 180 acres of Camp Parks, currently by the U.S. Army Reserve and NASA.
Mark Davis, the son of Al Davis, and Tom Blanda, the Raiders director of finance and technology, made the pitch Thursday.
To say Lockhart isn’t interested is an understatement.
“My personal opinion is it would destroy the city of Dublin if we even considered it,” Lockhart told the Times.
According to Lockhart, Davis and Blanda said:
“‘We think the Raiders belong out here. We think we should put a stadium on this land.”
On the bright side, it presents a scenario where the Raiders are looking to stay in the East Bay when their lease expires in 2010.
(On a purely selfish note, being a Dublin resident, it would make it possible for me to ride my bike to work on game day).
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January 11th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
“(On a purely selfish note, being a Dublin resident, it would make it possible for me to ride my bike to work on game day).”
Then you would officially have my dream job.
Raiders for Life…I’m In!
January 11th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
aren’t you guys glad I didn’t pull that 1st crap! I wasn’t even tempted
Raiders for Life…I’m In!
January 11th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
The classic rule of political spin: When you’re in deep trouble, create a meaningless distraction, a pathetic smokescreen to hide the real mess.
Shame on you, Jerry.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
I was thing the same thing Scottish, I smell something in the timing. Clever way to get Mark’s name in the paper, as though he’s grooming somebody.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Pull this nonsense, Jerry. Let’s get back to the real issues. Mark Davis has never taken a decision in his life without asking Castro’s (sorry, Al’s) permission.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
LoL! It would make my drive to the game very short.
Ignoring history and all, it would be a nice location for a team. Dublin has I-680 and I-580 going right through it with highway 84 being near by.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
oh yeah scottish raider because this stadium idea is burning up espn right now. totally made everyone forget about the ryan deal. SMH
lol that would be nice Jerry! and you could probably use some time on that bike!! just joking of course.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
When Davis introduced Kiffin last year, I really had great feelings about all he has done for the team over the years. for some reason, the sight of him at the\at presser and thenthe walsh thing really made me feel that appreciation.
But with the Ryan thing, whatever the story is, I really appreciate that I want him to get the hell out of the way so our team can win. the only time we have won of late is when Gruden pushed him out of the way.
I hope Kiffin can do the same.
Last, I am not totally convinced that ryan is coming back. Nothing from he or kiffin and there was nothing in that release that talked about him having the job next year, more of a just stop talking about it thing. Whatever the case, if he does end up going, that is good because it means Kiffin is gettin to pushin.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
http://eastbay.bizjournals.com/eastbay/stories/2008/01/07/daily63.html?surround=lfn
January 11th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
“I was thing the same thing Scottish, I smell something in the timing. Clever way to get Mark’s name in the paper, as though he’s grooming somebody.”
KK -
So let me get this straight, conspiracy theories exist in the media only when YOU think they do? Sounds like a contradiction to me. Can’t have it both ways my friend.
Raiders for Life…I’m In!
January 11th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Don’t go messing with my seats now … I like my seats.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Don’t look know but it looks like Raiderdogg just Marley’d KoolKell! I guess that’s not a hard thing to do but its still funny to me.
Right on Dogg!
January 11th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Not sure if that actually qualifies as being “Marley’d” but I’m glad you got a kick out of it.
Raiders for Life…I’m In!
January 11th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
I didn’t know it was your sister -
Thanks for the link.
Raiders for Life…I’m In!
January 11th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
RDogg -
Looks like you scared off Kool Kell. Once again nice work. He’ll be back when he knows you aren’t around any more and I’m sure he’ll have plenty to say. If I am here and you are not I will direct all comers to post #10!
January 11th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
I think this whole Rob Ryan fiasco is just a bunch of nonsense until they are able to work out a deal with whoever it is that they are planning on bringing in as the new DC.
January 11th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Scottish Raider and KoolKell,
Thanks for your insight. This whole thing smells like 7 day-old skunk road kill.
Hafa Adai.
January 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
This would be a good ideae… too bad the Dublin Mayor doesn’t like it…
January 11th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Jerry do you think Dublin is a good idea?
January 11th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
The Raiders absolutely need a new state of the art stadium! I don’t want them to change the name however…it was bad enough when they went to LA….at least they stayed in California. I live in-between LA and Oakland…and have been a Raider fan my whole life….I would find it hard to continue being a fan if they moved away like the Rams did. It is hard enough to be loyal with the state of the team as it is!
January 11th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Is there any site in “Oakland” to really build a stadium? The BART is key…
January 11th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
That would be SWEEEET!!
I live in San Ramon, directly next to Camp Parks. Jerry, maybe we could bikepool together??
There are SO MANY Raider fans in the TriValley…
January 11th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
AceyDeucy,
You seem to be obsessed with me, what’s the matter, did I show up naked at your bar mitzvah?
January 11th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
It make sense that The Raiders would be putting out feeler on a new stadium. The Collisium is old and outdated, especially when you look at some of the newer stadiums that other teams are playing in. The Raiders team value is toward the bottom of the league, and why? It has nothing to do with winning or loosing. It sure didn’t hurt the Cowboys or Redskins value when they went through some down times on the field. It is why the A’s are working so hard on a stadium deal. I love the A’s, and I eat, breath and sleep Raiders, but it has not been good for either of them to share an antiquated stadium. I think The Raiders accepted the fact a few years ago that they are locked into their lease with the colosium until 2011, but after that they need to get somewhere, hopefully in the Bay Area, where they can thrive off the field. When you go anywhere in the country you see people wearing Raiders gear. They have fans all over. (So do the Cowboys.) The support for them has held up even through four horrible years on the field, and yet they are still rated as one of the lower value teams in the league? That is why they need to get into a situation where their value can grow to what it should be.
January 11th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Oh, a new stadium story, huh? Will Rob Ryan be in this new stadium as defensive coordinator? Will Greg Knapp (AKA Joenorv Callabugelshell) be Kiffin’s replacement when he inevitably walks after this season? That’s what most fans are wondering.
January 11th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Don’t blame Knapp! It’s the players that aren’t getting it done! The players!!! I tell ya….
January 11th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
A’s move to Fremont, the Whiners will go to Santa Clara or possibly even L.A. and the Raiders can stay in Oakland at a refurbished and 100% all football stadium. OK, I’m dreaming a bit, but you have to start somewhere.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
“AceyDeucy,
You seem to be obsessed with me, what’s the matter, did I show up naked at your bar mitzvah?”
I knew that you seemed familiar. That was you? You caused quite the commotion. How about giving back all of those gifts that you stole from me?
January 11th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Jerry, thanks for the time and for sharing your opinion.
I know a lot of people are very dissapointed because they were anxiously waiting for you to come out and lynch Al Davis. God knows they already have…..nice to see some perspective for a change.
But don´t worry, a lot of them are soon gonna act like they always believed in the Raiders and had no doubt we were in the right track and you´ll have the full house as usual.
And thanks also for your honesty when it comes to stating the fact that Raiders information is a tricky business. As you can tell, some people will believe anything.
Keep up the good work, Raiders info may be tricky but I think you manage to do the best job with it.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
LOL…..Oh man, really…..do I really need to say anything?????.
MaddenRaider Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Jerry, what a waste of time!!! And usually on I’m your side.
You were peppered with hard ball questions from pissed off Raider fans, and you just gave one softball answer after another. Your answers were borderline team representative, even going so far as to downplay Davis’s meddling. What a time for such downplaying, right in the thick of a situation in Alameda where everyone with a 4th grade reading level knows good and well Davis and Kiffin are clashing over D coordinators, and where Davis is evidently winning out.
What a waste of time, Jerry. Scrap the chat and just blog, because that’s where you’re at your best. My guess is that some type of corporate/Raiders sponsoring bulls’t has you holding back in the chat sessions. It’s not you. It honestly read like a chat with Al Locosalle or Artie Giagintino.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Oh yeah right! like that’s going to happen, Dublin wouldn’t want me introducing them to sideshows, their Police Force isn’t big enough to handle them.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Dublin Raiders ?
Hahaha
Seriously? I bet Amy Trask is behind this!
January 11th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
MaddenRaider
So, Jerry answers direct questions for the first time and when he fails to meet your Hate-Al guidelines you accuse him of selling out?….pathethic.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Jerry answered those questions the best he could. Sure they were softballs but Jerry doesn’t know whats being said inside that Raider building anymore than Carl Steward, Monte Poole, Kawamami, or Ralph Barbieri….lmao @ Ralph!
How was Jerry supposed to answer those hard questions he doesn’t have answer for ?
January 11th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Mista…
He was supposed to blame Al for destroying Kiffin and making sure the Raiders will suck for the next decade, just like the other guys.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Hey Bob,
Did you read what he said about the prospects of the Raiders winning with Al in the Captains Chair. C’mon man. Dude.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
KK…
Of course I did, the man is entitled to an opinion. Just becaue I don´t agree does not mean I´m going for his credibility.
It´s obviuos Jerry is no big fan of Al, but at least he has a little perspective.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
I think everyone at this point is at least a bit skeptical, I´m not gonna lie to you. Time will tell.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Maddenraider: Espousing your guessing as fact and then getting upset with others that see your guessing not as a fact but as only one of many possible truths is a clear indication of narcissism coupled with a strong Oedipus complex . . .but hey I am sure you are a good boy and love your mother.
January 11th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Amen Bob & Dr Phil.
Raiders for Life…I’m In!
January 11th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Alright Bob, I’ll leave you with this gem:
KoolKell: Does the Oakland Tribune or you, or Carl Steward, or Monte Poole have a bone to pick will Al Davis? Would you make up stuff to make him look bad?
Jerry McDonald: I’m assuming the second part of that question was tongue-in-cheek. (If it’s not, you’re wasting your time reading this site). It was a lot more fun to cover the Raiders when they were winning three straight division titles than in going 19-61 the past five years. Ideally, the coverage should reflect the team. The bottom line is this _ the Raiders have been back in Oakland for 13 years and have had three good teams. The last five years they’ve been the worst in the history of the franchise, not to mention the NFL. Exactly what has Davis been doing for the last half-decade that deserves hearts and flowers?
January 11th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Bland and davis had child??? Get that mofo on the field!!!
January 11th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
“You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make em drink” Someone said.
January 11th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
or you can get Marley’d like you did earlier KoolKell!
That was hilarious!
January 11th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
KK…
What was that gem supposed to prove?.
January 11th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
wait for it…
January 11th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
POSTED 6:24 p.m. EST, January 11, 2008
YET ANOTHER BRONCO GETS BUSTED
Well, it’s time to reset the “days without an arrest” meter. Again.
Media reports out of Denver indicate that Broncos tight end Daniel Graham, to whom the team paid big money on the 2007 free-agent market, has been busted on charges of “suspicion of criminal mischief and harassment.”
The arrest arises from an incident between Graham and his girlfriend. After an argument on Thursday resulted in a call to police by Graham’s girlfriend, she told them about an incident from Sunday during which Graham allegedly entered her house without permission, refused to leave, and damaged a bed.
Coincidentally, Broncos owner Pat Bowlen spoke out on Friday about the team’s troubles with the law. “I’ve never had a lot of tolerance for stuff like that, especially in this community.”
But yet Bowlen continues to tolerate the decisions of coach and de facto G.M. Mike Shanahan to spend Bowlen’s money on guys who engage in “stuff like that.”
looks like the Raiders aren’t the only dysfunctional organization in the NFL after all.
January 11th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Warning *** Warning the statement that you are about to read are sensitive in nature and not suitable to all readers!!
Hello nation, as I was running on the treadmill, keeping with my daily routine. I was watching The patriots pursuit of perfection on the NFL channel. I have become enraged to say the least, as I watched Brady and belicheik prosper and scheme in regards to Randy moss. I’m stating it loud and clear with, all due respect. F*CK, al davis this mother *u*ker has let petty things get in the way of the oakland raiders being a franchise that’s regarded as one of the elite’s. I know and read all the loyal AD guys out there but be straight for second, who the fu!k would have Marcus Allen sit the pine in his prime, too prove a point * Who the hell would alienate a coach, (Gruden) that put in countless hours rebuilding a team that did’nt do shit, forever * Who in their right mind drafts a #1 and goes cheap * Finally who the f*ck almighty lets rumors fester in the public’s mind, like were experiencing with KIff. I’m certain their are many, many, more examples of bullsh*t things, this stupid fu*k has done. I understand he has done some great stuff as well but we got royaly f*cked with moss. Hey Davis you caved in too that dudes bullsh*t and now their rubbing it your face!!! The reason I’m coming out with such strong language isn’t only for me but as I was watching that special and they showed moss with Oakland. I could’nt help but notice the Raider APE guy, in the black hole, all happy go f**king lucky, not knowing that he’s getting f*cked every sunday. Why, because AL either wont give up control or sell the team to some Raider lover’s that have serious money and are’nt afraid to spend it. For gods sake, Al needs to stop holding on to petty grievences. Fuc* you Al, their are people in your stands that deserve better, mother f*cker!
January 11th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
don’t hold back bro, let it all out!
January 11th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Moss is the one that quit on his team and the Raider organization. Al Davis or no Al Davis Moss is should be sued for stealing money from the Raiders organization. Boo hoo suck it up and be a man.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
And on that jolly note…later fellas.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
A civilization which leaves so large a number of its participants unsatisfied and drives them into revolt neither has nor deserves the prospect of a lasting existence.
Sigmund Freud
January 11th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Have a good one Bob
January 11th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
right back at ya Deuce…
January 11th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
The Raiders Belong in Oakland, Bottom line!!!!
We too hardcore for Dublin. What would that sound like,? The Dublin Raiders. It has to be a conspiracy, cuz there is no way Al is going to ruin our Tradition with a city like Dublin. The Raiders are a urban team, therefore we need a Urban city. Hell L.A. sounds better than Dublin.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
SO selfish. Can i move in with you?
January 11th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
The name won’t change, it’ll remain Oakland as long as they’re in the area.
As for Al, I trust the man who worked for everything he has in Oakland. To go from Brooklyn to owner of the Raiders is awesome.
I wouldn’t be a fan if it weren’t for Al. Considering our history and that only 5 years ago we were in the Super Bowl, I can’t bitch at all.
Imagine being a Cincinnati Bungals fan, Cardinals, Falcons, etc. They deal with a lot of change too, but don’t have any rings to show for it.
For all the bad Al’s done, it was all done in trying to do everything he knows how to for his team. He’s done a lot of good too.
Regardless of what happens, I won’t be out, I’ll always be in.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
As I’ve said, the Chargers just won their first playoff game in 13 years. The Dalls Cowboys haven’t won one in 11 years. The Whiners haven’t been to a Super Bowl in 14 years. What are some of you whining about???? Sigtn up for Maddenraider’s Whine Train and I’ll buy you a tom Brady or Peyton Manning jersey and you can root for whatever team you whiners want tomorrow.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. – Rita Mae Brown
It’s funny how many of these apply to this team.
I’m not a big Al hater. But I do get tired of having new coaches all the time and getting my hopes up every year. I do wish he would cut the cord and let Kiff take total control for a few years and see where we end up. Couldn’t be any worse. But I here ya Oak and Jeremy.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
actually HR if Davis left Art Shell as head coach I would agree with the insanity quote for sure. This team has bottomed out and is heading in the right direction RR or no RR. I think the neglect the team has paid toward the defensive line along with lack of continuity are the number one reasons this team has sunk down. With an overall number one we drafted offense, a need position (QB) and did well. Now with another high pick, let’s go D, DL (another position of need), and I have faith this team will right itself fairly quickly
January 11th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
You mention Art Shell. He lives here in Reno. I use to see him at leased once a week. He never said that he did. But I really and truly feel he took the job to bail Al out. I don’t think Al was close to getting anyone and Art took one for the team.
And yes I do think the ship turned around this year. But I really hope none of this has any truth to it. I really wish Kiff had the power to do what he sees fit as far as any on field decisions.
Plus a good friend of Al’s a real hands on owner. But as of late he seems to be doing it better then Al. (Noted Oak 11 years and counting)
January 11th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Plus I’m not a RR hater either. I think it was as much him as the players. But I will admit I’m not as keen on the D side of the ball as some in here.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Mcfadden finally declared for the draft…
January 11th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
I want the Jags to beat the Cheaters soooo bad tomorrow!!!! Smug A$$ mo fo’s!
January 11th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
sacramento raiders
January 11th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
So this is what we’ve come to…5 years of frickin’ HELL. 19 paltry wins, and 61 freakin’ losses. I don’t blame ANYBODY for damning the soul of our franchise, and heck, even jumping ship.
But stay together, Raider Nation! We have already bottomed out! Ryan or not, we now have Lane Kiffin and JaMarcus Russell. Just like Star Wars, Episode IV, there IS A New Hope. Just hang in there a little bit longer….
January 11th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
If the Raiders move they may cease to exist as the Raiders. Remember, the NFL allowed Cleveland to retain the rights to the Browns name. Oakland would probably have that same right. The difference is is that Oakland would never qualify for another NFL team since the NFL has twice failed there. Too bad. Bye Bye Raiders. I guess we will have to become Dublin Donkey fans.
Lakers rule.
Draft McFadden!
January 11th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
South Dakota needs a team. How does the Rapid City Raiders sound? Or the Sioux Falls Raiders? Our stadiums are better than Oakland’s, but that does not take much does it?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Wow, Oakglenn…I didn’t even see your post #60 till just now. That’s kinda creepy…
Obviously, I know where you’re coming from.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Dublin should be HONORED the Raiders would even consider them!!
We’d also have another source for recruiting talent, with Santa Rita Jail right next door to Camp Parks!!
January 12th, 2008 at 12:00 am
There is a big difference between those who just hate the Raiders and those of us who are critical of Al Davis. This team, this franchise is in serious trouble and needs sorting out. That requires strong and effective leadership. Something Al Davis is not displaying at the moment.
Anthony Carroll is the moderator on realfootball365.com and is usually a very careful and considered commentator. But I think you might be interested in what he had to say yesterday:
“There is something about the way Davis does business. The longtime owner controls one of just 32 NFL head coaching jobs in the world, and he still has had trouble finding and keeping candidates in recent history. And when it seems like things are finally going well, he does something to ruin the relationship. Think: Jon Gruden, Bill Callahan and, now, Kiffin.
There have now been a over a dozen near-identical reports all laying out the same storyline this offseason: Kiffin wasn’t happy with the job Ryan did in 2007; as a result, he was intending on firing the D-coordinator; Ryan, then, was planning on taking a position with the New York Jets; then, Kiffin would hire a new coordinator, preferably one familiar with the Tampa 2 defense.
It was simple enough, until Davis did what he’s been criticized harshly for since Oakland lost the Super Bowl back in 2002: meddle in day-to-day team operations. Now, Kiffin has remained rather quiet since then, likely choosing that route instead of making matters worse than they already are now.
Davis, who first began his stint as the Raiders’ general manager 45 years ago, seems to grow more determined, but he’s also more involved with each passing year. Unfortunately, as hard as it may be for team loyalists to face this fact, the game has passed Davis by.
It’s a harsh reality, but until Davis steps down from his dominant role, every offseason in Oakland will take the form of this one: confusing, controversial and utterly unnecessary.”
Al Davis ain’t listening and nobody inside the Davis Family or Alameda seems to have the guts to tell him the truth.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:09 am
OK what would be so wrong with the Raiders keeping the name “Oakland Raiders” AND having a new stadium built in Dublin. Let’s see the “New York” Giants play in New Jersey as do the “New York” Jets. The “New England” Patriots play in Foxboro etc. I love the Raiders and I love them being in Oakland but the Coliseum-love it for the memories but it is run down. The bathrooms are in shambles, with the A’s being in there the turf is a joke. What would be so wrong with the Raiders getting a new stadium. I could tell you that with a new stadium and making the game experience a little more friendly for the casual fan we would never have problems selling out.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:35 am
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=oak
Marcus Allen on whether his Raiders would beat the Pats.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:27 am
Thanks for the link Aussie… That Raiders team would crush the spy-patsies!
January 12th, 2008 at 1:28 am
No way a new stadium goes up anywhere in the Bay Area, Raiders or 49′ers.
Publicly financed stadiums (ballot approved bond initiatives), are dead in the water anymore. Joe Sixpack isn’t that dumb.
Thankfully Candlestick makes The Coliseum look like the Taj Mahal.
Given the broader state of our economy, I think we’ll all be fine with the current site, even Al.
Let’s just start winning more F’ing games!
Cheers & In For Life!,
Ian
January 12th, 2008 at 1:31 am
Jerry, and anyone else.. Are the A’s also looking at Dublin or was it Pleasanton??
January 12th, 2008 at 1:51 am
Why don’t the Raiders move back to LA?
The NFL want them to go back.
The City of LA are encouraging and supportive.
The financial arguement is an absolute no-brainer.
This franchise needs a new start.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:59 am
This story is a Wag The Dog diversion of sorts.
But it also just fuels the flames of chaos in the “Organization”.
1)Head coach on thin ice.
2)Power struggle.
3)No place to play.
The quote by Blanda was interesting.
“That just helps us to continue to negotiate in good faith and to continue to negotiate with the highest level of … not options, but knowing as much as we can know going into negotiations,” Blanda said.
Good faith my ass. It’s the typical Raider way of dealing with things. Blackmail and playing hard ball. We seem to use this strategy with our own coaches, players and now home town.
Maybe we should try to do it with the teams we make deals with, instead of getting fleeced like we did by the Patriots in the Randy Moss deal.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:39 am
# Aussie Raider Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 12:35 am
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=oak
Marcus Allen on whether his Raiders would beat the Pats.
………..
What a breath of fresh air. And, of course he says “yes”. And, those Raiders would have. That Raider team was managed by people that really did want to win more badly than any other executives, and didn’t just say so and have their brain dead followers repeat it like parrots, like we have today.
When she brought up Moss, Marcus said they had Lester Hayes at one end and Mike Haynes at the other. That was his answer. No more words were needed. What a great clip, and it’s good to see Marcus. A Ron Wolf prodigy, our all time leading rusher and as much of a Raider as anyone who’s ever worn the silver and black, as Howie Long said in his introduction in Marcus’s book.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:45 am
Copenhagen, that’s an excellent point, and something I haven’t given much thought. If Al Davis played as much hardball with other franchises as he plays with the very people that work underneath him, he might really be one of the best GM’s in the game. Maybe that’s it, right there. Back when the Raiders were good, is it possible it’s because then Al Davis held more contempt for the league’s other franchises than he did for the people working underneath him? What an interesting prospect.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:52 am
I loved it when he said no matter what happened during the week come sunday they were all prepared and focused on the game
January 12th, 2008 at 3:12 am
Al Davis should keep right on rollin’ down the highway…all the way to L.A. He can take the players (who mostly stink anyway) but the Raiders name,logo, colors, history, etc. stay with Oakland. We’ll get a new team and be well rid of him. He can put his 82 year old (in 2011)”genius” mind to use designingpass plays for the “L.A. Gangstuhs.” Would we really have been any worse off watching an expansionteam the last five Years?
January 12th, 2008 at 4:07 am
Hey kk or BHP ,its about time you “lifers” put guys
straight about this whole “how they look coming off the bus” thing,too many people in here think its about
looking athletic.Really some people need to check history and facts.
heres a link, http://www.raidershistory.net.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:12 am
OH i think AL hired lane due to the fact that he could deliver monte “the lynchpin of tampabay” kiffin from bruce allen & jon gruden!at tampa bay!
so hopefully this happens @ end of month!
if not then that means that kiffin had/has no clue about just how bad of coach this ryan is,
and anything he tries just simply will not work! put our def numbers on indys’/pats/chargers etc strong playoff teams! and are they 11-13-& 16 win teams??? no of course not ! other then colts in 06 (cause they have manning)no team can go to playoffs as a strong team& win!!!wo/ a defense that does at least 1 thing well!!! we dont do any one aspect of defense well!!! not a one!!!!
if we ranked #1 in rush off! we would still be 32nd & dead last vs run & still be 4-12 !!!! ya know if ryan had merryman,where would he play ??? well obviously rite where burgess is now@@ sde!!! so you cant give this guy talent!! he will only RUIN THERE CAREERS!! LIKE HES BEEN DOING!! SO YOU PEOPLE THINK IF HES’ COACH 1 MORE YEAR ! IS O.K. WELL YOU ARE ALL NUTS !!! AND YOU LIKE BEING 4-12 EVERY YEAR !!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 5:24 am
hey soul you forgot that in 06 teams were running right side @ 5+yds carry! and left @under 1 yd carry!!!
mainly due to brayton/sapp/howard triangle on left! in 06!and right side he had/has burgess@250lb,wiliams(softvsrun)& a 195 lb fluid longstriding free safety playin strong saftey named mike huff!!
so all teams will go run right!off tackle vs that!like they did!
so what does this idiot ryan do for 07 ? he adresses this with benching brayton?? , and putting in john richardson? a guy who is not strong vs run,& not fast enuff to pass rush!we had 1 sack from brayton in 06 & we have 1 sack from richardson!so no improvement there!
and we dont have a better run def !! due to richrdson being to soft vs run!teams were taking turns running left end running right end! look at the playbyplays!! in every game! this is the fact!!truth! so the only change he made in 2007 to adress the poor run def!was bench the guy that made the run def better, tyler brayton
!and replace him w/ a 5th rd draft choice (jrichrdson) who was just as shocked as is was that he wasnt cut!other then that every year he seems to create problems for this team being able to pass rush & run defend!
you left this part out !!! KINDA LIKE HE IS DOING IT ON PURPOSE!!!! OH I AM SORRY THATS RIGHT ! AL DAVIS MADE HIM DO IT!!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 5:29 am
Here’s an idea; if the Fremont stadium deal works out for the A’s, just rip down the existing Coliseum and rebuild in the same place. The Raiders could play at Stanford and/or Berkeley until it’s finished…?
January 12th, 2008 at 5:39 am
Towsend, I think you are a bit tough on Jay Richardson. I think he showed a lot of heart and some potential.
However, you are right about Ryan’s inability to find and maintain the right combinations: Sapp and Sands never worked. Williams/Thomas and Burgess never worked. Huff and Morrison never worked. Huff and Schweigert never worked. These failings raise two fundamental questions about Rob Ryan’s capability:
1) Why was Ryan unable to fix the problems that were evident in the first four games?
2) What is it about Ryan’s schemes and/or coaching that makes so many college stars (Grove, Gallery, Brayton, Washington, Huff, etc.) so disappointing in the pros?
Rob Ryan’s brother Rex is a hard-nosed disciplinarian who has established a high standards, high accountability culture in Baltimore. Rex has managed some big personalities and some even bigger egos, but he has always put out a driven, highly motivated and smart defense. The sad truth is that Rob Ryan is a pale, pale shadow of his brother.
We have the runt of the Ryan litter.
January 12th, 2008 at 6:04 am
Many of the Raider fan base who live in the Dublin/Tri-valley area came from the Oakland area. The Tri-Valley would be great. Can you imagine a night game in the valley. Check out the NFL and see who has a city name but are not located in the city of its name. You can start with New York and Dallas. However, don’t get to worried about the Raiders moving to the valley, most of the city councils are to liberal to want a sport franchise located in the city. They would perfer a civic light opera, not football. I bet Mayor Lockhart would okay an opera house in the center of her city. She probably never heard of the Raiders or American Football. It tells you how close minded she is when she immediately said “no”. However, if you saw the apartment/condo complexes she has authorized in Dublin you would understand her priorities, and the traffic congestion she has created. No to football, but yes to human density. Hey Mayor Lockhart, instead of saying no, why not try and look at a way it could enhance Dublin, but I’m sure that would never be considered. Typical Politician, its the traffic stupid.
condos condos condos on the new land…
January 12th, 2008 at 6:05 am
The main reason Rex Ryan’s defenses have been hard-nosed and accountable is Ray Lewis. Until we have someone on defense that commands respect and kicks a** when the situation calls for it we will not have the same success. Coaching is one thing, but if the players don’t hold themselves accountable it all falls apart on the field. Can you imagine RayRay putting up with some of the lack of focus and discipline we displayed out there this year? He would have hurt somebody by the third quarter of week #1…
January 12th, 2008 at 6:56 am
Most fans keep discussing the importance of a new DC to help boost the now struggling defensive unit of our team. To me it matters little who they are as long as they’re successful and can bond with the players. Ryan had the bond but not necessarily the success. For everyone who would like to see Monte Kiffin as the new DC, per ESPN.com Insider one day ago, it’s rumored that Carroll would bring him on in Atlanta if he’s hired because they’re long-time friends. If Carroll decides not to join Atlanta they may hire Kiffin anyway.
January 12th, 2008 at 7:38 am
raiderfrom birth, good point
January 12th, 2008 at 8:01 am
http://beta.profootballtalk.com/2008/01/12/mcfadden-going-pro-sun-rising-in-east/
Mcfadden is in play…
January 12th, 2008 at 8:17 am
For my own selfish reasons I would love the Raiders to move to Sacramento, where I beleive they could sell out luxury boxes and premium seats to fat cat politicians the way the pricey “Kings Row” seats sell out at Arco Arena for Kings games regardless of a winning season.
I currently take a chartered Rooter Bus from Sacramento to Oakland for home games and tailgate festivities, which is fun too.
I like Koolkell’s posts, and look forward to reading them. I usually skip through a blur of boring chatter boxes until I find some of his posts (assume it’s a him.) You guys sure give him a lot of grief. Keep it up Koolkell, you add a lot of color to this blog, I want to see you post more!
I’m both frustrated and nostalgic about Al Davis. I know becuase of his age and health his time at the Raider helm is growing short. He reminds me of my own father who is in his 80’s, who keeps a tighter nad tighter grip on the only things he thinks he knows and can control, as things around him become unmanageable and foggy, he clings to what he thinks he knows and defends it without using clear logic or reason.
“To do the same thing over and over and expect new reslults, is the defintion of crazy.”
NorCal Raiders, playing in the Al Davis Stadium, Sacramento, California, 2011.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Has anyone heard any rumors about Huff being traded? If you look at RaiderImage, the Huff jerseys are all on sale along with the Porter, Jordan and Sweigart jerseys. Interesting. The same thing happened to the Philip Buchanon jerseys a couple months before he was traded for picks. Of course, it could just be that they have too much inventory of Huff jerseys b/c everyone’s buying Russell jersey’s now and they anticipate large sales on our new pick’s jersey this summer. Still, if Huff gets trade the RaiderImage will be my new source for who is staying and who is going.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:05 am
Sacrement fella
I know luxury boxes is important to a stadium, but hopefully not too many, sports is for the brutes…
Bucs’, Malcolm Glazer has almost ruined the atmosphere in Man U games, by brown-nosing the guys in suits. The ticket prize has risen, the old ordinary fan doesn’t have that kind of money,(~$80) and Man U got a $481m turnover for 07/08 season, a 27% rise.
well I bet you guys thing the prize in alamede is too steep
just my 2 cents…
January 12th, 2008 at 9:06 am
nice post sacramento raider.they should move to sac. as for the crazy davis, i totally agree.i really think its going to get ugly and embarising for fanz when it gets to the point that he’s so crazy that he’ll be forced out by the league or family.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:08 am
I also live in the tri-valley and would love to have the Raiders here. The mayor of Dublin isn’t too bright. How would 10 games a year (on the weekend no less) ruin the city? She needs to think before she speaks.
Also, I have a friend who went to high school with Mark Davis. She has one word to describe him:
LOSER
January 12th, 2008 at 9:39 am
the last thing we residents of Dublin want is rowdy Raider fans pissing all over the place on game day or better yet blood spilled over someone wearing another teams shirt to the game
January 12th, 2008 at 9:49 am
just kidding I am just busting your chops, I don’t live there. i think the mayor is right though, why would you want to put a stadium in the middle of a small city? Maybe to get out of Oakland, high murder rates and violence may scare some familes off and believe me, teams want businesses and families at their games. That is money in the bank
January 12th, 2008 at 9:51 am
When they were in LA, where was in that they were trying to build a stadium, irwin? Does it fit the Dublin profile?
January 12th, 2008 at 9:57 am
HEY scott notice the other postrs’ always find a un-definable problem with the talent!!! as opposed to the actual problem!1 COACH & 1 COACH ONLY!!!ROBRYAN!!
” AW WE NEED SOEMONE THAT KICKS SOME ASS, thats why ravens are good they have raylewis!”
they werent shit till rex showed up & put thomas & suggs on map!
& they play them where they belong! if RObryan had the same talent ,he would have
ed reed wasting away
@ s.s,or lbr?
ray lewis wasting away @SDE!as a “run plugger cause thats a mismatch” DAAHHH!!!
he wouldve cut nagata because he dont get any sacks! and he’d have chris mcalister a big physical cb paying vs the other teams smallest fastest wideout like he does now nahamdi!why not? it is what he does now!
total contrast to what REX does!
MY raiders!! have better talent then those ravens! AND IT IS ALL GOING TO WASTE FOR LAST 4 YEARS NOW CAUSE OF THIS BUM!! ROBRYAN!!! THE ONLY problem with raiders has been ROBRYAN and anyone that has gone along with him!!! and as much as i admire/respect al davis if he is the on that has facilitated robryan , then hes’ gotta go too unfortunatley!!!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Don’t assume I’m a fella!!
If the Raiders relocated to Sacramento they could better accomodate fans from not only a rapidly growing Sacramento but Roseville, Rockin, Davis, Woodland, Stockton, Modesto, Lodi, Fresno, Marysville, etc.
Fans from Oakland could take a sponsored Rooter bus to the games like I currently do from Sacramento to Oakland. For $50 I get a ride to and from Sacramento to the front door of the Coliseum on a luxury bus with a clean bathroom. It includes a free adult beverage on the bus served by the president of the club and a catered tailgate spread at the Coliseum with tri-tip steak, BBQ ribs, raffle prizes of Raider gear, and a t.v. to watch the morning games. No traffic to fight, no parking fees, no DUI, and I can bring my own ice chest of cold beer for the tailgate. Valley fans should check it out: http://www.raiderrooters.com/
January 12th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Hey KoolKell,
Look at post #93. Someone from Suckramento likes you and thinks you add COLOR to the blog…
Now THAT’S FUNNY!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 10:02 am
oh p.s. DARNELL BING IS NOW A JET!!! we’ll see how bad he is now with for the first time he’ll actually have a full mini camp & preseason!! gee i wonder if the jets will play him @ mlbr! like that rat ryan did!!!
he was exactly what we need a big physical STRONG SAFETY that supports the run!! him & HUFF couldve brought back the 70’s “SOULPATROL” w/ tatum/atkins/davis!! well if ryan caoched then hed have tatum @ mlbr! & sistrunk playin olbr!!no question!
and my raiders wouldve never had ripped off 7 div titles 1 super bowl! and madden wouldve been fired after a couple of years !!! kinda like what is goin on now!!! cause of that “STUMBLEBUM RYAN” all you robryan people dont deserve the raiders! you should follow him wherever he goes !!! I’LL SEE TO IT!!!! LOOSERRSS!!!ALL OF YOU!! make me sick!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 10:12 am
I live in the valley and the raider rooters suck big time, big rip off
January 12th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Since the Raiders have a national (and beyond) following … as this blog shows, can someone clue me in on where the hell Dublin is? Is this anywhere near Oakland? East coasters want to know …
January 12th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Dublin is approximately 30 – 35 miles east of Oakland
January 12th, 2008 at 11:29 am
The MdFadden news is great. I do not think the Raiders need a RB, but the more top talent available, the more other teams would be willing to give up to move up in the draft. Here is to all the top talent kicking a$$ at the combine.
January 12th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Sacatomato Raider Fan = KoolKell
It’s the only explanation, because there is no way that someone would actually think that FoolKell adds anything but crap to this blog.
Way to pat yourself on the back FoolKell
January 12th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Sac would be great for one reason…I would save 2 hrs driving time. I would rather see them rebuilt on the current site. For those of you in the Bay whats the likely hood of that happening?
January 12th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Yeah…..what are the chances of the coliseum being imploded and a new stadium erected right there?!?! Meanwhile playing their games at Cal or Stanford or even San Jose? Not real familiar ….but aren’t those sites old and run down too?
January 12th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Dublin is in the middle of the Pleasanton corridor and could mean more luxury box sales. It has BART access and could pull from the Stockton / Tracy area. It is all still more likely a negotiating tactic since Dublin lacks the tax base to provide ANY sort of funding or infrastructure help.
As for the Al / Kiffin / Ryan issue, I just have one question: Given the secretive nature of all the people involved, there likely aren’t more than 5 people on the planet who know what’s really going on. Why listen to people who have no clue? EVERY one of the reports I’ve read or heard has been SPECULATION. I can speculate, anybody can. ESPN speculated Mike Vick wouldn’t be charged. Nancy Gay speculated Sapp would be cut pre 2007. About a million people speculated Russell would start the Denver game.
We’ll see what happens but even Al has to see that of the ROOKIE head coaches in 2007, Kiffin is one of the best. More heralded Cameron and Patrino are gone. Tomlin and Whisenhunt did less with more. Kiffin’s not going anywhere soon.
January 12th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Darnell Bing lives on like a bad rash. Yes, we’ll see and when he goes nowhere we won’t hear anybody pop up and admit they were wrong.
Yep, a fan who has never seen the guy in practice or on film or in person is soooooo much smarter than the 3 head coaches, 3 defensive coordinators and 32 scouting departments that said he isn’t worth squat.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
COW
WEll said
We’ll see what happens but even Al has to see that of the ROOKIE head coaches in 2007, Kiffin is one of the best. More heralded Cameron and Patrino are gone. Tomlin and Whisenhunt did less with more. Kiffin’s not going anywhere soon.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
T Rackett Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Sacatomato Raider Fan = KoolKell
It’s the only explanation, because there is no way that someone would actually think that FoolKell adds anything but crap to this blog.
Way to pat yourself on the back FoolKell
I don’t think that’s kk he can’t write that well. and to much thought as well.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
“JayP Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
T Rackett Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Sacatomato Raider Fan = KoolKell
It’s the only explanation, because there is no way that someone would actually think that FoolKell adds anything but crap to this blog.
Way to pat yourself on the back FoolKell
I don’t think that’s kk he can’t write that well. and to much thought as well.”
Nice try FoolKell, we all know this is you as well. Stop frontin on everyone on this blog!
January 12th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
After researching Rex Ryan to see how he compares to his brother I found out the Baltimore defense in points scored (the only D stat that matters) was 22nd this year giving up 24 points a game, meanwhile our D gave up 24.9.
In ‘04 their D was ranked 6th in D points scored, in ‘05 when Ryan became DC they dropped to 22nd, ‘06 drafted Ngata and become #1, only to fall all the way down to 22 in ‘07.
However, the one positive stat for Rex has been his rush D. In ‘04 they gave up 105 yards a game and now it’s 79.
I have twin daughters and it’s amazing to see the difference in the two, however one doesn’t blow the another one away in intelligence.
It’s like Rob was the party animal and fried his brain and Rex plays smart. Pops was obviously an assh*le, but knew his defense. He led some of the most infamous D’s to ever play the game. His Chicago & Philly D’s were effin awesome.
Rex obviously fell close to the tree but somehow Rob must’ve rolled further down the slope.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
This is related to post #48
This is what Al has caused and In too deep is right.
http://www.bizjournals.com/eastbay/othercities/sacramento/stories/2007/11/19/daily13.html
January 12th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
In Too Deep is nothing but a crybaby. Careful Big Ern not to get lumped in with him as a whining little girl
January 12th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Far up in the postings, In Too Deep went ballistic on AD. Many of the points were speculative, since nobody really knows what the real conversations are. But one thing does need to be addressed in that what he claims is a knock that I see as a positive.
He smacked Al for not giving Jamarcus’s agent his demands and creating a hold out situation. But I can bet that every other owner in the league was silently applauding Al for this. He showed the ballz to do what no others would and that’s to stop this insane escalation of guaranteed long term money to unproven top picks. By not caving in as others have, he not only helped to slow this yearly increase — and we’ll see the fruits of that in the ‘08 first pick negotiations — but he also mitigated current and future damage against the Raiders salary cap.
For those of you screaming to sign the top FA at every position this year, just where do you think that cap space is going to come from? For every single major signing, there’s a long term cap impact that plays into the ability to sign the next big player years down the road. Building a championship team is not a sprint and it takes careful long term planning, both in terms of talent and in managing the cap. Don’t overlok how much better the Raiders are than most other teams at the latter.
What this shows is that Al is going to stick to his principals no matter what. Many claim the NFL has passed him by. In some ways yes, but in other ways it shows that he knows that it’s moved in the wrong direction and that he’s going to be the first to stand up and do something about it. This is how he earns that unheralded respect amongst the other owners that turns into clout when discussing new rulings, financial policy, etc. that ultimately make the whole league better for all.
And even if such actions come at the price of short term success for the Raiders, I applaud him for this and am a prouder Raider fan because of it! I’ll take the level of integrity — yes, integrity does happen in Raiders circles — over win at all costs approaches like Patriots illegal taping schemes or Whiner cap abuse tactics any day.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Or how about the Broncos and the Super Bowls they won? They were and completely knew they were over the salary cap each year and were later fined.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Dakota and others like me who like DMac:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sec/2007-06-28-mcfadden-sw-feature_N.htm
Article written prior to -’07 season about DMac. Obviously we’ve heard about the character concerns, but this is an interesting article. He’s a big goof ball.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Thanks Sacto Fan,
But I like the Dublin Idea better, really the home of the early season ticket holders. It’s definitely Raider territory. He won’t be able to pull an Irvindale there.
Troll,…..
January 12th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Zymurge…..It will be interesting to see if any of this years top draft picks sign with the agents JR used.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
People love me.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Beach,
It’s sad, that this country continues to produce people like you.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Beach Boy, You’re weak!
January 12th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
KoolKell,..people love you?…you consider these faceless typists in here people?…..hardly,..just a bunch of “shut-ins” who since the invention of the internet no longer are people,..they dont leave the house unless they have to for work,…they get everything they need in life from the internet,..shopping, entertainment,…sex,…people?…lol,..not even close.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
So the Raiders are moving to Ireland? That makes for a short commute for Scottish Raider…….( O.K. bad joke) But seriously, everyone is going off half cocked about what’s going on internally with the Raiders. No one but the insiders knows for sure. I would think that Al Davis and Kiffin are very excited about coaching the Senior bowl, so they can get a superior look at all of the college talent AND schmooze with everyone else in the league in order to possibly poach a DC from some other team. They don’t want to send Ryan on his way without having someone else in there to replace him first.
Also, although I am no fan of Rob Ryan, I think he plays much too soft and does not require nearly enough discipline, he is not completely to blame for the defense’s failure. Football is an incredibly emotional game and the defense CAN’T play at their best if they know the offense is just going to putz around.
Between a new offensive system, Josh McCown’s extreme incompetence, and Kiffin’s pathetic playcalling, the defense has little reason to get psyched up for battle. I know some people will say that they are getting paid millions to play regardless of the circumstances on the field. Those people are right ……….but only to a degree. Players want to see results for all of their hard work, so when our defense gets a three and out, it’s depressing to see the offense choke and give the ball right back again. One hand washes the other. Improvement on offense will also help the defense.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Packers are off to a good start
January 12th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I second that
January 12th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
When you talk about moving the Oakland Raiders, the demise of the Raiders began immediately upon their arrival in LA. They won a Super Bowl their first year there and after all their Oakland momemtum left a couple of years later, they went straight downhill. All the ridiculous makeup and getups that people wear to games began with LA Raider fan.
It has been a tough road to hoe here in Oakland building back up a winning attitude and tradition. We did get to a Super Bowl here. Without the 1990 LA Raider team that went to the AFC Championship game only to lose 51-3,when the LA Raiders were .500 or slightly above, it was a good year for them. Think about that when you think of moving the team, especially back to LA.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
that hit gave new meaning to the term Rastaman Vibration!
January 12th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
man we need someone like bigby
January 12th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Dmac’s daddy says he didnt send in the draft papers
http://www.nbcsports.com/portal/site/nbcsports/menuitem.6f806e473b4cb158fb00ec22493c2d04/?vgnextoid=0dd3388af7f67110VgnVCM10000075c1d240RCRD&vgnextchannel=9f23d5e59df02110VgnVCM100000dc032c03RCRD&vgnextfmt=default
January 12th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
#129
I wasnt always this way. I had some fond memories of what its like to actually have a life.
January 12th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Dakota and Jeremy are probaly still out celebrating Dmac entering the draft.
“I hate to be saying anything because all these false stories and everything are floating around,” Graylon McFadden told The Associated Press on Saturday. “But no I didn’t — and that’s all I’ve got to say.”
January 12th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Bigby just made another highlight film play.
The Packers may have the best shot of beating the hated patsies if Bigby and Woodson bring their A game.
January 12th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I think someone is posting stupid crap under a bunch of different “regulars” names just to try and ruin this site. Ain’t gonna happen.
January 12th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I second that again
January 12th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
oakglenn, you’re so tough, man I wish I was like you, heheheheh
January 12th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
El Tato…
Congrats… Sevilla was nowhere to be found..
January 12th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
BoJax… yeah, the Stanford and Berkeley sites are old, but they would be temporary housing for the team until the new stadium is built. Something definitely needs to be done, though; the Mausoleum is old old old, and it’s not like we’re talking Wrigley or Fenway here…
January 12th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Taking the “high” road on this one
January 12th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Check this mock out – very interesting to say the least and well opined on. Bottom line – of major notation – they believe Long will go 1st (I sorta concur) – Ellis will go before Dorsey (wow – shocker! – but like I’ve said before some believe Ellis is just as good if not Better than Dorsey) – and Dorsey will fall to us (I really wouldn’t be that upset with this outcome).
http://www.nflfans.com/x/view.php?pg=officialmock1_2008
What I did notice was that for all the commentary I read the reasoning for the picks were sound. They have us picking Adarius Bowman in 2nd.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I would love to see Chris Long in S&B b/c I believe he is For Real, but I think there’s a very good chance he’s gonna go #1 to Miami. If Tuna finds the D-Coord to institute a 3-4 scheme Long may end up being a better fit than Dorsey. If they stay with the 4-3 then Dorsey has a better chance at #1. Either way Long/Dorsey/or Ellis – who can complain?
January 12th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Terrapin, that is an awesome mock. Just imagine Dorsey and Bowman….that would be sweet. I was thinking either Dorsey and Lawrence Jackson or Ali Highsmith!!! Raider Defense???? Problem SOLVED!
January 12th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Go Jaguars!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Dorsey would really be nice. We’ll see. I never paid much attention to Ali during the bowl game.
I noticed that the commentary was headed “Raider War Room Discussiion” or some other team war rooom discussion. So the picks may actually be concensus picks amoungst fans who know their team best – thus much more reliable imo – at least 1st round. The deeper you go in rounds the less likely you are to get it right.
Rebuilding the Oakland Raiders through LSU? Why not they are arguably the best team in the country…
January 12th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Hey Mr. settle down, you little puss, you only came out with that name immediately after I went on a posting rampage #48. You can’t even use your original post name, OK whatever.
Bottom line I’m sick of seeing fans like ape man, shoulder pad spike man, darth vader man, Hey, call them what you will, Oakland fan’s are in a whole different league of loyalty, they, we, deserve better already, than the run of the mill franchise fan’s and I’m sick of AD messing things up!
Zymurge, I respect the hell out of the way your able too argue your point, your just behind Jedi in that regard but Integrety is’nt Al’s motovation, it’s hardheaded greed, the man’s petty and cheap.
All of you, straight up, live and die for ad guys, check it, uncle sam’s been around for over 200 years but I hate it when he come’s knocking on my door every april!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
and let’s not forget National Champions!!! Raul, that was a bit trippy, you know great minds think alike.
January 12th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Do you guys see how big the Jaguars Defensive line is? Our team needs to take some notes.
January 12th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Of course…Brady still sliced through that defense in the same way that offenses slice through ours. The Jags only seem to be rushing 4 each time. The only problem I see with the big defensive line is they don’t have as much speed as ours but they stop the run. I still think you have to start with that.
January 12th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Actually notice the Joke-sonville Defensive Inside Tackles. When was the last time our tackles made plays like that.
No big deal. the Idiots obviously scripted their first 15 plays and ran them well. It happens.
January 12th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Jacksonville rushes 3 men on 4 and 4 and Brady beats it easily. The 3 man rush NEVER works.
The only way to beat Brady is to blitz him and beat him up.
January 12th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
The only thing scarier than Al Davis running the Raiders is the thought of Mark Davis running the Raiders. Our glory days are probably over boys.
January 12th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Green Bay ran for 235 yards on the vaunted Seattle D today. They only put a buck seventy eight on us and we thought the world had ended.
January 12th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Actually, Townsend, Baltimore’s defense was dominant way before Rex Ryan. Guy by the name of Marvin Lewis was the coordinator there, and Suggs and Adalius Thomas (who plays for the Patriots now, by the way) were not on the team. Nor, for that matter, was Ed Reed. The constant on that defense is, and has been for a long time, Ray Lewis. He is the one that has kept the tradition alive on defense in Baltimore, and guys have to answer to him if they screw up. We need someone like that, and our D will be a lot better if and when we can get an on-field and locker room leader like Ray. I think Warren Sapp tried, but he was basically a cartoon character his last few years on the job and didn’t carry the big stick like Ray does.
January 12th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
why move to dublin when they’ll have the Coliseum all to themselves when the A’s move?
January 12th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
how do like them apples, the patriot fans booing their team, bunch of jack asses, they have no idea how bad It could get!!
January 12th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
for me the I’m living voraciously thru the jags, well at least they have black pants?….
January 12th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Interesting, hearing the comments from Cowher and Marino at halftime. Talking about short passing game and controlling the clock on offense, and not a lot of blitzing with a (basically) four-man front and keeping everything in front of the defense as being the way to win this game.
Sounds familiar somehow. Maybe now Kiffin will get a little credit for having an idea about what he’s doing. It’s the players, folks. We get some better ones and instill a little more discipline to the defense we’ll be a much improved team.
January 12th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Dummy
January 12th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
jags playing the “bend, don’t break” defense? sounds familiar….looks like that bitch-made Raider defense I had to watch for the last couple of years!!!! What? A touchdown after a nice 6 minute drive? What a surprise!!!!, why not do a two man rush and have more stumbling coverage to watch welker stand untouched and uncovered!!?!?!
January 12th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Mr. Sinister… based on the pass protection he’s getting, what would you differently? I’m just curious, because guys like Brady eat the blitz for breakfast. The idea here is simple; the more plays you make them run, the more opportunities you have to take the ball away and you are less likely to get burned by the big play. Which they’ve had some success with this year, I think.
January 12th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
I’d have to look at the Baltimore defense of being aggressive with the wide outs allowing little to no rhythm, accompanied by smart blizting. just a thought
January 12th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
I think that’s a big reason why New England is so much better than they were last year; they upgraded the wideout position(s) bigtime. If you are aggressive with those guys you’d better have safety support because if you miss (and you could, because these guys are good) you’ll get burned for sure.
It would be fun to see Randy get smacked in the face a couple of times, though.
January 12th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
And as we’ve just seen, safety support on the wideouts opens up the middle…
It’s just real hard to beat a team that executes as well as they do.
January 12th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
jack del rio will be saying, “if you wanna go ahead and crown em, then crown thier ass!” here comes the turnover
January 12th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
jags played not to lose, that’s why they’ll lose
January 12th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
All the Jags were lacking was a pass rush. They just don’t have a potent pass rush. Can’t keep giving Brady all day.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Into Deep…
”Integrety is’nt Al’s motovation, it’s hardheaded greed, the man’s petty and cheap.”
Yeah, I´m sure all the support and money Davis has devoted througout the years to help former players, employees and coaches in trouble or sickness tipped you off uh?…
Way off on that one dude.
Also…on the field…
Jerry McDonald: The Raiders have proved in the past that where they are against the cap bears no relation to their ability to sign a player they want. It’s one of their best attributes _ they don’t get into the whole “salary cap hell’’ myth which most every other team uses as an excuse when they let someone go or don’t sign a free agent.
You can blame Davis for a lot of stuff, cheapness or pettyness ain´t one.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
They’re going to lose because New England is a better team than they are. The Patriots can afford to take more chances on defense because they have better matchups than Jacksonville does, and Brady’s pass protection has been really, really good. Jacksonville doesn’t have the secondary to stop New England and they don’t have the recievers to beat the Patriots’ cover guys one on one. New England, by virtue of their superiority in that area, was able to be much more creative and aggressive on defense than the Jags, thus putting pressure on Garrard and forcing mistakes. It’s how they beat the Colts so many times, except in those days they were allowed to beat the crap out of Indy’s wideouts as they came off the line, thereby disrupting Manning’s timing and accuracy.
Anyone can run these schemes, but if your matchups suck you’re going to get beat…
January 12th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
By the way, Corey Williams had a good game today, hope the price doesn´t get too high, he´s a fit and a sound investment.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
No pass rush and they played vanilla all day – barely any blitzing. If you don’t have a pass rush you simply can’t do that against a passing team w/ a QB like Brady. Thats why they couldn’t stop them.
Another week of listening to Patriot ass kissing. Comon’ Manning, if there were ever a better time?
But what did I tell you guys many weeks before the playoffs started – The Patriots defense is waaay overrated. They couldn’t stop Jax pretty much all day. Its that freakin’ O that wins them the games.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Wait a minute – I don’t think the Jags were that much outmatched at all. They proved they weren’t. The Pats really couldn’t stop their O. They damn near scored on every possesion. They just lacked a pass rush to get to Brady – thats it.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Pats look unstoppable without any pressure on Brady. I hope the Raiders find another good pass rusher to complement Burgess else it will be ugly when they come here in 2008
January 12th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
I can’t stand the media ass kissing on Pats, Giants and the Cowboys. Hope Manning kicks Pats’ ass in the championship game and they have a good shot with Harrison back.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
I hear what you’re saying, Terrapin. I just think if they’d have blitzed more they would have gotten beat earlier and more often. In my opinion they knew what their weakness was and tried to keep it close as long as they could by keeping everything in front of them. When your secondary is overmatched it’s hard to take guys out of coverage to rush the quarterback without risking getting toasted, and God knows there’s enough examples of that on film this year for them to look at.
I do agree with you though, that the way to beat them is to outscore them. If Harrison plays, the Colts have a shot.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
As I remember, Manning almost beat them in the Reg season. He just made 1 costly error at the end of the game – very un-Manninglike – and thats the only reason why they lost the game. But thats how I remember it.
Indy’s D plays the Patriots a lot better than the Jags did today. I’ll say that B’More’s D played them the best all season. Them and Philly. Gotta mix things up and get to Brady.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Raiderfrom Birth – thats an interesting take.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
That 4th and 5 play in the Pats 1st series where Jax rushed only 3 guys was all you needed to see.
Jimmy Johnson said it best, every team in the league will try to beat you with what they do best, only Belichick adjusts his gameplans from weekly to add new stuff aimed to stop the opponents best weapon.
Yeah the D may not be dominant, but they take away the one thing you can´t win without….tonight, Jones-Drew and Taylor combined managed 116 total yards, gameball.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
I’ll say, and I hope, the Colts have more than a shot at beatig the pattsies. Harrison didn’t play when they lost ot NE in reg season. That could’ve been the difference maker – you never know.
They lost 24-20 fyi at the very end of the game.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
That´s why Indy has the best shot, when on their game.. they are equally good at running and passing.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
I wish Jimmie Johnson was our GM. That guy knows players like no one else. His drafts were unbelievable, and Jerry Jones wouldn’t know jack if it wasn’t for him.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Thats our problem man – which has been stated over and over and over again. We just can’t stop the run. Remember how well we matched up with Indy? How we stimied(sp?) them? Thats all because we stopped their running game.
When we can stop the run, thats when we’ll be able to take advantage of our superior speed – our superior pass rush. Damn its so frustrating just thinking about it. All that speed and talent we have on D goes to waste b/c we can’t stop the run.
I’m sure we would’ve matched up damn well with NE just as we did vs Indy. That is if we could’ve stopped NE run game (like Indy) and they start passing. Damn its so frustating. All I want for the New Year is discipline and DTs.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Well maybe a legit SS too and throw in a everydown DE while your at it LOL>
January 12th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Yeah, Terp, we’re not exactly a year away, are we? At least we’re making progress…
January 12th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
One thing I got out of this little exercise is that maybe I’ve judged Jerry a little harsh at times.
His opinions aren’t much different than the most objective and fair reporters I’ve talked to. Some of these dumbells say some of the stupidest crap you ever want to hear but Jerry you actually surprised me.
Although if you think thesde guy’s have that much of a better idea than the average fan you’re really giving them too much credit. But that depends on your vantage point. Most here still have the opinion they already had, because they want to believe certain things and they will no matter wha.
Jerry it was a better read than I thought it would be.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
I second that Priest. I never credited Jerry, but was about to come with a sarcastic joke ..something like:
“Jerry, you’re not so dumb afterall huh ..you actually got some brains and logic behind those words” …hahaha
But whatever, just my having fun attitude. It was good stuff though. I won’t agree with everything, but I understand more of where he’s coming from.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
The jag’s did what they had to do. They weren’t good enough when it really counted. Jag’s had excellent opportunities and came up short, alligator armsm bad throws. You can’t beat the Pat’s like that.
Our last 5years in a nutshell are due to lack of stability at the QB position. If we had good play at QB we would’ve had a different year…………period.
You can go back and look at every game and see that it was a major factor in the outcome. I know it sounds too simplistic but when Russell is ready to lead then this team will start to win and win big.
B4 and after Gannon is no mistake. You’ll see what I mean as soon as he’s ready.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Raiderfrom birth…
I love Jimmy Johnson…even if his latest input with Al contributed to the Norval era….
“When I sensed there might be a coaching change, I just said to Al, ‘Don’t forget about Norv Turner, because I think he’s the best there is,’” Johnson said in a phone interview. “I just felt like Norv was going to be the perfect fit.”
Yeah, that went well…
January 12th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Agree with you completely, BHP. The offense is going to be something to watch. Gotta get better on D, although a better offense will help that side of the ball, too.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
But I know to those of you whom are Mr. davis addicts nothing makes sense outside of DAVIS IS MEDDLING.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Bob… yeah, maybe he should have stuck to evaluating players… lol.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
I hope JR is competitive enough, remember stella beer is the bomb! the movie lake placid is pretty funny!
January 12th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
# Blackholepriest Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
But I know to those of you whom are Mr. davis addicts nothing makes sense outside of DAVIS IS MEDDLING.
…………
Does Davis not meddle?
January 12th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Two things I want during this post season and in the NFL draft!!
1. Patriots LOSE the Super Bowl or AFC championship.
2. The Raiders select Darren McFadden!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Hi there MaddenRaider
January 12th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Terrapin Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Thats our problem man – which has been stated over and over and over again. We just can’t stop the run. Remember how well we matched up with Indy? How we stimied(sp?) them? Thats all because we stopped their running game.
………
Stymied Indy? So, we won?
January 12th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
No stupid, he does his damn job fool.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Evening, Marley.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
# Blackholepriest Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
No stupid, he does his damn job fool.
……..
Your personal insults are weak and ineffective. Regarding Al, if he doesn’t meddle, then why did he say a couple of years ago that Rob Ryan does not have the final say on defense?
January 12th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Got anything my way?…cause I´m about ready to lay down and catch a flick or something..
January 12th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Davis’s job is to hire competent people to work for him and hold those people accountable. We may not like what and how he does it. But it’s HIS business. You or the media may not understand or agree but he knows what he’s doing and how to get it done.
Sometimes he makes bad decisions and has to dig out of them but it’s not something encapable. What Jerry’s been covering this team for twelve years and he’s an expert on Mr. Davis, what a joke!! When Jerry’s done 1/10 th in his profession as Big Al has done in his. I might listen to him but until then he’s just another writer. Who’s trying to get another story.
The only people that know what he does are the peolple that work there.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
The writers had to make it look legit and keep it close for the first half.Can you imagine Harrison (roid) and Seau were playing for the Raiders…they would make Williams and Stu look like all pros! Storylines get ratings ratings = $$$$$$$ .
January 12th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
MRaider – Lets be clear, I never said we won the game. Just pointing out how well we played – i.e. in the pass rush dept vs the ‘hard to sack’ Peyton Manning. Man you really are a damn idiot. I skip 99.9% of all your post and reading that one just reminded me why.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Priest, spoke it like a true supporter of Al. But he does meddle, doesn’t he?
January 12th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Is this something you heard him say? And if so in what context was he saying it. And if that’s what he said did he say that he had the last say?.
Just because Jerry tells you something doesn’t make it ironclad true. I’ve never personally heard of Mr. Davis telling a coach that he couldn’t ru a particular defense and if your precious Jerry has then why wont he say it.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Terrapin, you said we “stymied” them. We did stop their run. But they didn’t need it.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
BHP….
You don´t need to worry about MaddenRaider going to Jerry, he already called him a sellout for being too soft and not telling the ”truth” about Al on his chat yesterday.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Uh Blackholepriest :
Do you remember Jerry Rice In Seatle then trying to hang on with the Donkeys before mercifully being let go?? Well thats the situation with AL, except he’s the boss .
January 12th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
And I’ve been personaly following this team for 38 years. And have talked to the most effective coaches that ever coached here. Like I said B4 he will hld a guy accountable if he feels in a particular game that the defense him empolyed was faulty. But that doesn’t ahve much to do with the scheme but the circumstance.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
How many GM’s would still have their job if in the last FIVE years they only won 19 games(aside from Matt Millen)!?
January 12th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Priest, I’ve been under the belief that Al meddles before the internet was even a part of our culture, let alone before I’ve ever read any columns by McDonald.
Al has alluded to meddling more than once. Numerous people that have worked for him, including players, have said outright that he meddles. Physical proof or self admission is not necessary to make this a reasonable theory. Heck, in a court of law physical evidence isn’t always needed. If twenty people say they saw someone do something, at the same time and at the same place, he’s guilty. Beyond Reasonable Doubt. And, it’s beyond any student of the NFL’s reasonable doubt that Al Davis certainly meddles. Again, he admitted he does on defense when he hired Ryan. He made it clear Ryan would not have the final word. As to what? Who knows? But judging by the fact that we’re using the bump and run that Al “favors” (thank you, Marley), I’d have to guess that Ryan gets the final word on absolutely nothing.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Well I get a little excercised when peolple act as if some damn writer knows more about football than a lifetime football man. Who’s biult some of the most dominant teams in history but they think some writer has a better idea. freakin’ nuts!!
January 12th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
# Bob Marley Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
BHP….
You don´t need to worry about MaddenRaider going to Jerry, he already called him a sellout for being too soft and not telling the ”truth” about Al on his chat yesterday.
…..
Indeed I did. It’s called having principles. I like Jerry but I’m not going to shake my pom poms every time he hits the enter button. His chat was weak. As I said yesterday, it may as well have been Artie Giagintino or Al LoCosalle sitting in his spot. He knows good and well Kiffin and Davis are in a huge power struggle right now and his answer to a fan’s question on meddling was something along the lines of Al being no worse of a meddler than other owners? Give me a break. He’s contradicted that this past week alone, let alone dozens of times since starting this blog.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Native..on your ”GM” question…
I´d say after the previous 4 not many, but after the last one he´d get an extension, after all..he managed to put the team in a good cap situation, found a nice young coach and a nice young QB…didn´t he? that´s where we stand right now, everything else is speculation.
Allright, I´m out…have fun you guys…catch up later fellas.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Al Davis is like hiring a family member thats old and cant do the job but he’s family and at 1 time a great guy ! The facts are the RAiders have fallen off the Face the earth and the old fool only medles in the wrong way when a young coach is trying to turn things around!Why the hell won’t anyone else take the head coaching job BECAUSE they don’t want to deal with some1 that would be consired a danger to himself at the Dublin Senior Living! GIVE IT UP ALREADY.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Maddenraider if he knows what he wants and how it should be done and he’s the boss. It’s not meddling, he’sdoing what he knows best. He hires the pelple he wants to work for him to get the job done. when they don’t succeed he gets involved. You call it meddling, I call it doing his job.
It’s just a matter of points of view. I prefer mine if you don’t mind.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
And, “sellout” is a harsh way of putting it, but I did suggest that maybe Jerry had some kind of corporate thing with the Raiders going on with the live chat. So, yes. I said what I said. You know, he is a sellout. He doesn’t exactly blog for NPR. He receives paychecks from a commercial media outlet. I’ve believed Jerry is a sellout from day one, but it doesn’t mean he’s not a damned good columnist. He is. But his chat yesterday was a low point. He was protecting the team, in a time where the team needs to be scrutinized.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
MaddenRaider…
Allright..principles,good for you…I´d love to stay and chat but I gotta put the little one to bed and then myself.
Good night people, let´s watch Indy crap on SD and the NYG take down the Cowboys tomorrow.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Native you don’t know neither does anyone else in here including myself know exactly WHAT THE HELL he does so what you’re saying is PURE speculation.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Priest, listen to yourself. It’s meddling. Stop splitting hairs over something that is common knowledge in the sports world.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Thanks Bob..I have to disagree with you on the cap issue! Al gave a whopping 17 mil to Turdel while not resining Burgess and theres already talks of Franchising #21! We all know how well it worked before with Woodsoon who’s team is still in the playoffs! Woodson and #21 ..Why did C. Wood change his #?
January 12th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Hey BHP
How would you like it if your boss hired you to do a job in managing people but in so many words told the people you were going to manage huh this dude has no final say!
January 12th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Any wonder why the defense was so UNDISCIPLINED???
January 12th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Native you are absolutely clueless. And I no longer am the least bit motivated to continue senseless babble.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Yes BHP
Jerry and I along with most everyone in here spend our days clueless. Hey maybe your Willie Browns cab driver or something I believe he’s host to players now getting them accommodated and stuff vs holding a title only to DB’s coach! So that’s where you get your inside stuff, you drive Willie around and get to say HI to whoever willie is helping out(mostly clueless rookies)!
p.s. a fan is a fan and your 38 years of speculation are just as much of a FAN speculation as mine!
January 12th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Shut dummy
January 12th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
If even you gave serious thought to what you said you might even agree that it doesn’t make sense. But that wont help would it because you think the coaches are stupid enough to go for that and you think Al Davis is stupid enough to do it. As well as the players going through that stupid crap and wanting to play here.
Huh the entire idea is assinine.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
The defense is undisciplined because of Mr. Davis, NOW I”VE HEARD IT ALL!!
January 12th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Naive native, that fits her
January 12th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
like it has been posted on here before “ASSININE” that couple years back Davis in so many words said that RR wouldn’t have the final say.. Hence my comment about the defense being undisciplined because they do not have to answer to their D-coordinator and the OLD fart keeps them around on scholarships like Kiffin correctly said it early on in the season!
January 12th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Soon enough SAPP will start talking and it will be interesting to hear what he has to say about it all.
BHP will dismiss him as a former disgruntled employee who never took a ride on BHP/Willie cab!
January 12th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
NO the majority of the coaches DO NOT even accept the offer to interview for the job.
What does that tell you!?
January 12th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Native I don’t like to be condescending in any way. But why would Sapp call Mr. Davis when he retired? Was it out of respect or something else you can come up with?. Youmay not agree with this but Mr davis thinks very highly of Rob-O as a Dcoord. Anyone that would undermine him would have to answer to Mr. Davis. There is very little that I have heard from that camp and trust me I’ve asked. That would lead me to believe that the players on that defense feel any different than Davis does about Rob-O. I’ve personally talked to Keith Milliard and Rob-O they love it here. Buddy Ryan has the utmost respect for Mr. Davis and has always wanted to coach for him. These are facts that I am well aware of. Big Al wants to help Rob-O become a head coach and has been nurturing him partly due to the relationship with his father.
Now do you see why what you say doesn’t fit with that scenario. These are very proud extremely confident men. Stuff like what you’re talking about just wouldn’t fly. The relationship between Big Al and Kiffin is nothing like what you’ve been reading about. That’s not to say that everything peachie keen but they are trying very hard to do the best job they can to win next year. And they are looking at everything and considering what needs to be done to get there. What that will ultimately be who knows I don’t think they know at this point. But they are working very hard as we speak. I can’t even get a return phone call, they are locked down and taking apart evrything to see if they can make it better. That’s all I know.
But your opinion as to Ryan not having the last say asto who does what on that defense I would say is way off. If you know anything about the Ryans.
January 12th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Name one cach that refused to interview that they even wanted, name one.
January 12th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
And I would lve to hear anything that Warren Sapp has to say good or bad. Listen I have a cousin that played here for 6 years. And was the most disgruntled of the disgruntled that you’d ever want to meet. Chester McGlockton hated Big Al and we talk sometimes I’ve never heard anything like what you guy’s say in here. As well as Tim Brown as a matter of fact Chester tried to come back home and work for Mr Davis. What does that tell ya’
Listen that’s it, I’m getting into business that’s not mine. Believe what you will. I couldn’t care less
c ya
January 12th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
damn…….
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28053729@N00/388479275/
January 13th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Do the Pats have a Punter ? Anybody seen this guy, whats his #
January 13th, 2008 at 12:14 am
I think Al Saunders declined while he was still with KC.
Blackholepriest Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Name one cach that refused to interview that they even wanted, name one
January 13th, 2008 at 1:09 am
Here’s my ranking of our greatest offseason needs by position:
1. Run stuffing DT (Dorsey or Haynesworth would work!)
2. #1 WR (Porter is NOT a bonafide #1)
3. Run stuffing SS (we need to move Huff to FS)
4. KR/PR (Higgins & Carr are NOT the answers)
5. Legit LT (Sims is so done)
6. Legit CB opposite Nnamdi (Fabian sucks, and I’m not sure if Routt will pan out. They’re both going into their 4th year)
7. Run stuffing LB (I like Morrison at OLB, but he sees himself as a MLB)
January 13th, 2008 at 1:46 am
OR831,
I guess JR’s metabolism has slowed a bit since then…
I hope he’s living at Raiders HQ like Kiffin was hoping. Jeff Fish needs to monitor the heck out of his diet and workouts. Watching his this year, his rear end was large and his upper body could be more defined.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:19 am
Here’s my take on the Al debate:
1) It’s not meddling when you’re the boss. I would perhaps call it “mirco managing” ha ha. But Al was the Man for many years, and has the experience. It’s his team and he does what all other involved owners do and should do.
2) When Al went wacky and spent too much of his time on luxury box seats, lawsuits, moving the team etc. it was obvious that he failed to be involved in the football aspects of the team and WE WENT DOWN because of it.
3) Because Al was so involved in all the external issues and not focusing on FOOTBALL, the game passed him by.
4) For Al to continue to play the role of the involved owner, is a mistake because he was occupied with external issues and lost his feel for the modern game, and the modern player.
5) He should stick to managing the business of the Raiders and back off with on the field decisions and personel evaluations.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:23 am
By the way, Brett Favre was great yesterday in the snow. He looks and plays like he’s 30. The way he moves and the power in his body is evident. He’s still got it.
Brian Grant showed that he’s no flash in the pan.
The packers have two shut down corners and an enforcer at safety. They also have a good D-Line and run stuffing LB’s.
I think that the Pack is going to beat Dallas.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:48 am
Al wants his legacy and his family to control the Raiders forever and that would be difficult at best since the family has only the Raiders as a source of income, if I am correct? Maybe he has been skimming off the top for years to set his family up? It takes money to put a winning product on the field. With the exception of the high salary cap years of Allen and Gruden, who are both gone and produced the only winning seasons in a very long time, the Raiders are set up pretty good financially dispite being one of the lower teams in worth. I can see where Al has spent his passion, and it wasn’t on a winning product.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:53 am
bhp, who much do the Raiders pay you for representing them on this site?
January 13th, 2008 at 3:54 am
you spend more time defending Al then you do talking football, makes me wonder.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:55 am
Jerry has to work with the Raiders, do you think he is going to alienate his bread and butter? You catch more flies with honey then vinegar
January 13th, 2008 at 4:02 am
BHP
“There is very little that I have heard from that camp and trust me I’ve asked. That would lead me to believe that the players on that defense feel any different than Davis does about Rob-O. I’ve personally talked to Keith Milliard and Rob-O they love it here.”
Do you work for the Raiders? If not, why would a real Raider employee tell you any different than the company line? What they are just gonna tell a fan the crap that lies in their house? One should always assume what they hear maybe garbage and look to what is being done as absolute.
January 13th, 2008 at 6:01 am
oh yeah & another thing if ryans d is telegraphing the s.s.HUFF goin man all day vs a te ,
(we have had a defense that is playing w/ only 9 or 10 guys vs run!huff gets dragged out of paly w/ any te motion!and STU is playing so deep b4 snap@15yds , that he cant be blamed for missing so many open field tackles!!!) this is all on the “ROBRYAN”
then how can he ever have the S.S. offering any kind of RUN SUPPORT?????
this is the a real problem !!!it is ridiculous!!!like anyhting ryan puts in!!!!
ryan is installing by design a run defense wo/ s.s. support??? and all th teams every week know this!!all they have to do is put te in motion keep the fb opposite & they will have either 3 on 3 or 4 on 4 blocking assignment all day!!!
what the f” is that!ive ovrlooked this,
he gets lauded for huffs’play vs tes’ 2 years in row now! well you cant defend run wo/ eventually discouraging the attempt w/ a S.S.@ 5yd off line look!
so vs the the run to off right, they have burgess@250lbs,williams @265lbs,& fabian @185lbs to defend the run off tackle!! and yu ryan dopes blame the talent !!!! burgess,williams-fabian/routt were not & are not run stoppers!!!! you idiot!!!
this is where i really question whether ryan is this stupid,
or if he is UNDERMINING/RUINING any chance oak has of a strong run defense.(requsite to a winning team),either he wants to head coach so gets the h.c.’s fired ,
or he is really this stupid!!!
or he is on the pats/nfls’ payroll to f’ up al davis & the raiders !!!no , the nfl/pats wouldnt do that!!(ya know bellichecks’ fav book is “art of war”
any of these shouldve got him anihilated 2 years ago1!
but it is never to late !!!! get him out now!!
so you ryan dopes keep blaming the talent,
when we get a real def cord this year , and are ranked in top 3 in
every catgeory , and ar goin to the playoffs every year! dont come back here!! i will be watching!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 7:19 am
hey any one of you ryan people, why dont you explain to us the finer points of “the robryan” run defense!
step by step ,
who& how they stop & discourage teams from runnig the ball?
then how he orchestrates his pass rush?
then how this reidually wll create turnovers!and win games! i’ ll be waiting,
this outta be good! cause ive been outiming this for years to people like you! and it dont seem to be sinking in ! maybe i’m wrong !!!! there always is a first time !!!!
i looked at pats & jags last nite and i saw about 7 spots on each team that we are better suited at w/ talent! and i just simply cant understand how teams run & pass ruff shod on my raiders!!!! please i need to be educated on this , i need to be STRAIGHTENED OUT!
January 13th, 2008 at 8:10 am
That pick of Russell was as a teenager,…think he was 16,…Im 7 rows from the field at the coliseum,..he doesnt look overweight to me,..just big!!….and no chance of a Dublin move,..the A`s are leaving,..Oakland will give them whatever they want to stay,…maybe even a total renovation,..implode the thing and rebuild, and the supposed riff between Kiffin, Davis,..Ryan,..all lies,..you guys still believe what the media writes?…why?,..all liars…metal rules.
January 13th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Soulpatrol,…you sure get up early in the morning fired up about this stuff,…chill out bud,..have a nice cup of java with some cognac in it,..take a couple tokes…lay back Holmes…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……
January 13th, 2008 at 9:02 am
the raiders should go to the 3-4 and take advantage of the speed at line backer.SS is a huge need via the draft or FA an impact player like bob sanders or Pittsburg s’ saftey.
January 13th, 2008 at 9:12 am
What was the difference between Lorenzo oneals broken leg and Michael Bush’s? Lorenzo is on the field jogging exactly one month after breaking his leg.
January 13th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Assuming the clubs’ interest was purely hypothetical in nature, it is reasonable to assume that the Raiders might be more interested in the former site of Alameda Naval Base. The location is more attractive from an aesthetic point of view; however, traffic issues would have to be overcome.
January 13th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Didn´t they say there was a second part of the chat to be posted on the weekend?…
January 13th, 2008 at 9:46 am
post 243 Nice list Raider Raul
1. Got to take Dorsey if there at 4, Haynesworth is going to get the tag. If Dorsey is off the board and McFadden is still on we should trade down to Dallas for both their firsts 22 & 30 I beleive. With the 22,30 and 34 pick we can cover DT,WR and SS
1. Frank Okam?(if above scenario unfolds, 30th pick from Dallas)
2. Early Doucet (34th pick)
3. Kenny Phillips (22nd from Dallas)
4. KR/PR (throw rout or washington into it)
5. Legit LT (Free agency Faneca, if he is willing to visit)
6. Legit CB opposite Nnamdi (I think we should make a play for Samuel if Moss get’s the tag in NE)
7. Run stuffing LB (I’d liek to see Danny Clark back in Silver and Black)
Just some quick thoughts and all highly unlikely but whats the fun in being realistic at this point. Hopefully Dorsey is there for the taking
January 13th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Also wouldn’t mind taking McFadden if there and Dorsey is off, but I don’t see Atlanta passing on McFadden. They need a new franchise player after Vic and there’s no QB in this draft that I can see filling that void.
January 13th, 2008 at 10:11 am
Bob Marley…Yes they did say that but why bother answering when so many in here have gleaned such absolute information concerning the Raiders by reading rumors? In fact many in this very room can evaluate talent better than AD or any of his scouts or coaches . . . Some have redefined math by letting it out of the bag that AD is cheap and does not pay his players well….I still can’t figure out how year after year (this year being the exception of course) the team is at the cap limit and has to find ways to get room under the cap to sign free agents and players selected in the draft…I guess I don’t know math because dumb a$$ me figured if the team has the same number of players as every other team and are at the cap limit how could they be not be paying players what other teams are…..so why bother with a Q and A ? It is fine to disagree but the visceral nature of some posts and insisting to wallow in dogma is moronic.
January 13th, 2008 at 10:13 am
hello robryan fan club !!! where are you!!!
i am still waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BILL COWHER,just was quoted on cbs nfl
” without a GOOD/PHYSICAL S.S.that can give run support , youre lost at stoppin the run”
you see this is a deterant!!! ryan has led nfl history in rush atts against!!!!!!!!!!btw!!!!why pass when you can pound !!!!!!!!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 10:15 am
Gooooo Colts!!!!
Raider Raul & AZ Raider…
I agree it’s a great list…BUT!
Why on earth does people keep talking about Heynesworth??
He is lazy, he’ll become even more lazy when he receives a big salary like Shaun Alexander. Marcus Stroud or Henderson are good, and Stroud isn’t lazy. We need a playmaker, not a big name! Look at Heynesworths stats…
The guy never played a 16 game season!!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 10:17 am
I think that some people in their draft hopes or projections are forgetting that The Raiders still have a coin flip chance of getting the third pick and not having to worry about what The Falcons pick. If so then we know that between Dorsey, C Long and McFadden at least one of them will still be on the board, maybe even two of them, although I do think Dorsey will be gone. As for trading down with the Cowboys, I think they would have to give up more than just the 22nd and 30th pick for Dallas to move up that far. Throw in their 2nd round pick and a player like maybe Roy Williams and The Raiders might think about it.
January 13th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Guys give me a charger blog site. I’m going to punish them for believing they had a chance to win.
January 13th, 2008 at 10:19 am
La Milicia….That’s what scares me about Haynesworth and it seems that we have that already with Sands….He was looking like an up and coming player in 2006….Gets his money and back to being like he was all the years before.
January 13th, 2008 at 10:21 am
Sick’em please not =)
the result will be thye’ll join this one, we have enough problems with the charger fans here already =)
January 13th, 2008 at 10:22 am
Sick Em… I have always avoided talking crap about other teams to their fans in the past but as it seems so many feel free to come to our site and kick us while we are down….I would love to see the Chargers lose and then see a silver and black attack on their blog sites.
January 13th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Sick’em please not =)
the result will be thye’ll join this one, we have enough problems with the charger fans here already
That’s our problem now. Other teams fight with their furnace and we fight with a match. Not enough fire!
January 13th, 2008 at 10:32 am
If the Chargers win count on them being here….They vanish when things don’t go well for their team….fair weather fans are like that
January 13th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Jh, You catch my drift. Thats why I want to attack.
January 13th, 2008 at 10:43 am
oh yeah rite al davis really told robryan
“you must
have a bad defense vs the run”
‘you musnt’have a pass rush on this team!”
oh yeah rite!
you ryan guys just better give up ,
your mans GONE !!!!!he’ll never go this far ever again!
his def is like goin up against 11 with 9 vs the run , no STRONG SAFTEY, FREESAFTY @15YDS DEEP!EVERY DOWN! AND VS THE PASS IT RESEMBLES 7 ON 7 DRILLS IN PRACTICE, DUE TO HIS
“NO PASS RUSH POLICY”
YEAH RITE AL DAVIS TOLD HIM TO HAVE A BAD DEFENSE!!
YOURE A BUNCH OF IDIOTS!!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 10:46 am
LMN
I agree, it was never really supporting Haynesworth to begin with as he will be tagged. Even if he was a worthy prospect he won’t be available.
Raiderkoolaid
Haven’t forgotten, just being conservative and assuming the worst case.
Best case we draft 4th and Dorsey is there
January 13th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Philip Rivers, looks like the Charger mascot when he starts whinning. What a deush bag, I can’t stand Rivers
January 13th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Just a guess not knowing specifics on Oneal but did he have a rod inserted or was it just a break and heal ?
Bush had a steel rod but TO had a plate screwed into his bone and played in the SB soon after so who knows..
# Andrews mom Says:
January 13th, 2008 at 9:12 am
What was the difference between Lorenzo oneals broken leg and Michael Bush’s? Lorenzo is on the field jogging exactly one month after breaking his leg.
January 13th, 2008 at 10:57 am
The should mix up 3/4 and 4/3 and a cover 2 on different downs to give the Offense different looks IMO.
# r8r4fer Says:
January 13th, 2008 at 9:02 am
the raiders should go to the 3-4 and take advantage of the speed at line backer.SS is a huge need via the draft or FA an impact player like bob sanders or Pittsburg s’ saftey.
January 13th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Native asks:
“Hey BHP
How would you like it if your boss hired you to do a job in managing people but in so many words told the people you were going to manage huh this dude has no final say!”
Apparently you’ve never been in a middle management position. That is exactly what a coordinator, or even a head coach position is. You are NOT the top man in the oganization, which means that you do answer to higher power that gives you your matching orders. The level of detail within those marching orders whether at the macro or micro level will lead to talk of “meddling”. Copenhagen hit the nail on the head there.
What it comes down to is that the guy on top is ultimately accountable for the overall success and thus he does have the final say in everything. To what degree he’s able to put in place people under him that he trusts and to what degree influences at what level that he gets involved in managing them (i.e. macro or micro level managing). Obviously, the best recipe is to put very strong middle managers in place that are as self-reliant as possible, thus needing less input from above. Short of that, the goal is to get people with great potential and then to manage them at a level that is low enough to help them get the right thing done and to learn along the way to make thos right calls themslves.
Of course “right” is purely an interpretation of what the guy on top ultimately wants. And I think that is what the fans here are arguing against. Each and every move that the organization makes is ultimately approved by Al, either expliitly or implicilty through his empowerment of the person making that decision.
So Al technically is not meddling. He is seeing his vision achieved through his staff. And that’s why Ryan knows, as does every coordinator or any middle manager in any business, that he never has the last say on anything. He may be given the ability to make his own calls up to some level, but if those culminate in enough of a mismatch with what the boss deems as success, then the boss will make the one call that is aways above that manager’s head: to fire them!
January 13th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Bush may have had a compound fracture. That may be the difference. I might look it up in a minute
Norm thinks the WWNFL wants a colts-pats matchup.
He is about to pop a blood vessel.
January 13th, 2008 at 11:36 am
On Bush vs ONeal, I think that there’s more to it than just the injury. Bush said several times that he felt he was ready.
My guess is that there is something more strategic to holding him back. Maybe because he’s not in the shape that they wanted to see (the rest of his body, not the injured leg) and they didn’t want to expose that to the world. Maybe because they had too many valuable RBs on the roster that they didn’t want to cut and give up for free to another team and the PUP status gave them a legit excuse to keep them all. Or maybe because the see something very special in Bush and by keeping him from putting up numbers this year it would help to lock him up to a longer term contract down the road.
We probably will never know the whole truth, but it’s probably some combination of some of the above along with some that isn’t mentioned. But I’m pretty sure it’s a lot less about his injury than they are claiming.
January 13th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Pasttime!!!!…. For you to grow up!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
chargers keep believing, so you can get let down
January 13th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
chargers are looking good!! Sproles is an animal!
January 13th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
The City of Oakland really needs a solid urban renewal plan, and the best way to start that is around a new state-of-the-art stadium facility that is close to the Jack London Square. The Oakland Raiders should remain the OAKLAND Raiders…There’s plently of distressed property in the area to make that work, and that’s what they should focus on. I can’t imagine a stadium in Dublin – it would stick out like a sore thumb. The city of Oakland needs to step up and recognize that it’s time to build a new stadium because the HOT is almost 50 years old. The Raiders deserve their own stadium, not that funky multi-purpose my seats are facing the wrong way deal we have now. I lived in San Diego for a few years and personally watched the entire downtown area turn from ghetto shacks to multi-million dollar high rise condos and all if it was around the new stadium for the Padres. Oakland could do the same thing because the city is bordered by water, so you clean up the trash and push it east away from the water and the rest of the city will do the same. It’s too nice of an area to be that bad.
From the Raiders standpoint, I don’t blame them for 1. Wanting a New Stadium (it’s just time), and 2. moving to a new location if they can’t get one in Oakland. The Raiders could split games at Berkley or another location up here while the stadium is being built. They may be able to salvage the HOT in 2 years or less or build a new one in three.
One way or another, the NFL isn’t going to allow the Raiders to move anywhere else but L.A. (which couldn’t produce a stadium for him after 10 years of promises) or the bay area (where they belong), and our Senators are already jacked up about the 9′ers moving 20 miles south, so expect some major opposition this time if Davis tries to move the team anywhere, especially farther away…he’s not going to be able to sneak the team out this time.
Anyway, a nice new stadium is just what Oakland needs…they were stupid to let the A’s walk, because baseball has 81 home games to the NFL’s 8, which obviously means the economic advantages to the local community are greater with a baseball team. The City of Oakland officials needs to be slapped for their mismanagement of such an excellent geographic location. Hopefully they step up and actually put together a long term city-planning vision.
January 13th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
I’m still looking for a good example of a cover 2 defense. So far, it hasn’t looked too good in the playoffs, and I think the teams that have been using it expect to score 21 pts or more. I don’t think we will be seeing that in Oakland next year.
January 13th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
I can’t believe the Colts are f’n this up. I just can’t stand the Dolts and Rivers pompous ass. Thats one of the most stuck up teams I’ve ever seen. Just can’t stand them. I think they rank higher than Denver on the hated list now – 1notch under KC.
One thing I’m noticing about the Cover 2 is that it doesn’t stop much of anything. If you don’t have a front line pass rush, then its toohard to stop anyone.
January 13th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Agreed Jhill – If the Cover 2 is suppose to be the Holy Grale of Defenses then I’m just not seeing it.
Interesting note though: SD started the game trying to muscle the Cover 2 running straight at it much like we did vs Indy. But we were a LOT more successful at it. Thats a very positive note for us. We have a better run game than SD.
January 13th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
I will say though, that the problem I think we are seeing in the playoffs with these defenses is the pass rush is pretty non-existent. These QBs are having all day. That why stops are few and far between.
January 13th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
I don’t think you are going to find many D lines that are going to be able to consistently bring it alone for a whole game. So why even bother? You HAVE to blitz playing a zone.
January 13th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Volek, Sproles, Turner, Jackson ????
Cover 2 is a disaster!
January 13th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
I agree that a move anywhere other than LA or someplace in the bay area is unlikely, but as for The NFL not allowing it, we have already seen how much authority The NFL has when it come to allowing teams to move. The great answer would be for Oakland to step up and help with a new state of the art stadium near Jack London Square, but I don’t see Oakland or any other bay area intity stepping up to help finance such a thing. Bay area sports fans are just that, fanatic, but most of the population has little more than casual interest in sports, and anytime someone talks about putting money into sports teams or facilities, the voters have a fit. They don’t see the bigger picture of what it brings them financially in the long run. That is why Ron Wolfe is planning on financing the new A’s stadium privately, and only wants public help with some of the infrastructure around the stadium and tax advantages, but he is still running into a lot of opposition. Unless The Raiders find a major corporate sponser like The A’s did, I don’t see it happening in the bay area. Los Angeles did not want to step up either, wich is why The Raiders came back to Oakland to begin with, but with The NFL and the networks pushing hard for a team in LA, it is possible that something could be done now. I wouldn’t be surprised if The Raiders head back to LA in a couple of years, but I would be surprised if they stay in the collisium much past the end of their current lease unless it is just to wait untill constuction is finished on their new home. The city officials in Oakland have had their head in the sand thinking that they could keep the A’s or the Raiders without new facilities.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
chargers just choked
January 13th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
damn i can’t stand those bitches. looks like that Harrison fumble really cost the Colts big time.
absolutely zero pass rush can’t help either. ok we cannot trade Burgess. its out of the question.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Pay Burgess now. Without a pass rush the game just turns into a shooting match. Nobody can stop anybody.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Chargers choked,huh?
Wow…that must make the Raiders REAL gaggers….
January 13th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
I never thought anybody would rival Brady for the player I cant stand the most but Rivers is really making a push, what a piece of krap!
January 13th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Dude Rivers is a beyond belief asshole. What professional athlete you know constantly gets into shouting matches with fans? That dude needs to mature. A complete ass wipe.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Chargers – Patriots
Pats roll to another Super Bowl.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Well that was disappointing.
I guess NE was going to play a completely injured Indy or a totally injured SD, what’s the diff?
SD certainly gets better pressure on the QB but next week will most likely be a blow out!! CRAP!!! For the next 3 weeks I will be a HUGE Packer fan.
Oh yeah, draft Chris Long already!
January 13th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
I guess the only good thing about the Chargers winning is that Marty has to wonder about his playoff record and think maybe I am the problem.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
jh…lol yeah, I guess it´s a win-win situation for us, Marty must be cursing and punching walls while Norv just bought himself at least the next 2 years at the helm of the whale vaginas.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Giants up by 7
January 13th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Can the Chargers and Patriots kill each other?
January 13th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
are you kidding me!!!!! like they have any chance to get after the cheaters. my god. im sooooo disapointed in payton.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
i haye them both but i hate the cheaters way more. i hate to say this. but go diego
January 13th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Well played the Bolts.
A nice result for the division, and me…at odds of 7:4.
The bookmakers here are offering 100:30 against the Bolts beating the Pats. Not too bad.
Remind me, why did Al ‘Castro’ Davis sack Norv?
January 13th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
because norv sucks. he just inherited a good team. give him a couple years and he’ll destroy em
January 13th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
I don´t hate the Pats, I hate their fans and the whole circus around them. San Diego ”fans” are like an annoying little cousin demmanding attention from the grown ups by uhm….being annoying, no one takes him seriously and you know you can just slap him upside the head if he gets too annoying.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
i hate Tom Brady is why i hate em.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Scottish…
I knew it was coming, I just did not know that it would be you…I thought you were smarter than that.
But hey..knock yourself out with that nugget.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Changing the subject. Have you noticed a consistent change in most of the credible mock drafts? Many of the serious ‘mockers’ now have the Chiefs taking Ryan Clady, the OT from Boise State. Too much of a co-incidence to be mere guesswork – perhaps some leaks from inside KC.
Anyway, that means the top four now looks pretty fixed, irrespective of who goes 3rd or 4th:
Miami: Glenn Dorsey
St Louis: Jake Long
KC: Ryan Clady
Raiders: Chris Long
McFadden is falling in most drafts. He may go to the Jets, but he might even do a Quinn and fall into the teens.
The smart money is on the Pats taking James Laurinaitis at 7. That would be so unfair. I still say that Laurinaitis is in our top three – along with Dorsey and Howie Jr.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
KC can´t pick ahead of us.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
KC has the 4th or 5th pic not the third.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Am I right?..
January 13th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Allright then.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Bob,
It was a great bet. My thinking was that the Chargers had the better roster depth, they could cope with the injuries better than the Colts and they had more momentum.
I still hate the Bolts but money ain’t sentimental.
Stretch,
I think you are being too harsh. Norv is a decent guy but he is perhaps a polisher of talent rather than a roster builder. He just might have found the right home in San Diego.
And isn’t Smith a very smart GM. We could do with him in Alameda.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Ooops. Sorry about the counting error.
Falcons will take Matt Ryan at 3 or 4. KC will take Clady at 5.
Chris Long is a lock. It just depends what position we play him in.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Scottish..
Congrats on the wager…but I wasn´t talking about that.
I meant the Turner firing comment…
January 13th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Have you had one too many tonight scottish?
January 13th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Nope. I’m as steady as Al’s pacemaker.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
No offense…Scottish…
But it seemed like you were fondly reminiscing about the Norv era…which would be odd since the hire was the mistake, not the firing…oh but wait, let´s just blame Al for both hiring him and firing him, I mean that´s what it´s all about isn´t it?.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
At the moment, or until he fires Rob Ryan, I am blaming Al for:
1) Global warming
2) The Palestinian crisis
3) The financial credit crunch
4) Britney Spears’ missing lingerie
January 13th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
5) Stu ‘Mr Waft’ Schweigert
January 13th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Okay Spinal, I really blame Al for:
1) 2003: 4-12
2) 2004: 5-11
3) 2005: 4-12
4) 2006: 2-14
5) 2007: 4-12
Is that enough ‘life’ for you?
January 13th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Scottish what mocks? Have any links? I really don’t see Atlanta passing on McFadden
January 13th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
AZ:
The best links to the mock drafts can be found on hailredskins.com;
http://www.hailredskins.com/MockDraft.htm
January 13th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Don´t go messin’ with Britney now..
January 13th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
and Atlanta must take a QB in the first. Unless they are going to gamble that Colt Brennan falls to the 2nd round, they must take either Ryan, Brohm or Woodson in the 1st.
I think Brohm’s star is falling fast – in truth he had a disappointing 2007. Atlanta will take Ryan, Ravens will take Woodson and I think Chicago will take Brennan.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
oh i see you ryan dopes are now convincing your delusional little PEA BRAINS!that indys’ COVER 2 defense isnt any good cause they were loosing to the chargers! oh isee that must mean rorbyan is smart, and he knows what hes’doing ,cause if indy is loosing to the chargers,that must mean our defense cant be that bad!!
lsiten up , the chagers have detsroyed the rorbyan “34″,his 4-1-6,his 4-2-5 “wolverine” ,his present “no passrush,no rundefense”4-3 ,that obviously is intened to wear out OUR OWN OFFENSE,BY LULLING THEM TO SLEEP BY THE HALF!!
!L.T. HAS MADE A CAREER OUT OF PLAYING JUST ROBRYAN TWICE A YEAR!!! SO HAS ALL THE OTHER TEAMS IN THE AFC!!!!!!!!!!
!so hate to burst your bubbles, but indys’defense was ranked 3RD OVERALL !!!!NOT 31ST LIKE YOUR BOY ROBRYAN!!! you see indy WAS 13-3 THIS YEAR & LAST YEAR THEY WON THE SUPE BOWL, CAUSE THEY played tuff def in their last 6 games!!postseason included!!!
robryans def has never had a
SINGLE DOMINATING GAME,EVER IN HIS 4YEARS!WHERE THEY COULD LITERALLY GO INTO CRUISE CONTROL TO FINSIH THE GAME! and the reaSON for that is HE DONT DO ANY ONE THING WELL!!! HIS defeNSE DOES NOT HAVE
ONE REDEEMING QUALITY!!!
TODAY you saw the chargers who on paper give up alot of pass yards!but get 30ints/ & rank 2nd w/ 42 sacks!
you see thats a PASS DEFENSE!SACKS INTS!!THATS REALLY WHAT COUNTS NOT JUST YARSD YOU IDIOTS!!!!
now you folk still are delusional from last years # 1 ranked pass def based on yards!!! oooh wow!!!
well that would be good if we had more then 30 sacks & 12 ints!!! like chargers had 30 inst & 42 sacks!!now thats good!!!
oh yeah ,three top defenses in NFL this year again all run the cover 2,or 3-deep zonecover out of the 34,
indy-tampa-pats!
piTT &RAVENS USE
34 attack style defense! that can yield same end result!!!all 5 though have same thing in coomon THEY ARE STRONG VS THE RUN!! HAVE A GOOD DEF CORD!!!!!
WE DONT HAVE EITHER !!!!
YOU SEE WHAT YOU ARE SUFERING FROM IS ACUTE
” RYANITIS”
FIRST COMES THE BALMING A QB, FOR THE SHORTCOMINGS OF YOUR DEFENSE!!!
THEN THE EXCUSES,
THEN THE DENIAL,
THEN HARDCORE SELF LOATHING!!!
YOU ALL HATE YOURSELVES BECAUSE OF THIS GUY!!!
THE SELF LOATHING HAS TO STOP!!!
NO WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED BE HOME WATCHINMG THE OTHERS IN THE POST SEASON , MY RAIDERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE , AND AS SOON AS AL FIRES THIS SYMBOL OF ALL THATS WRONG IN RAIDERLAND!ROBRAYN,WE WILL BE ON OUR WAY TO DOMINANCE!!!!
SO NO , THE INDY DEF & CHARGER DEF ARE MUCH BETTER COACHED THEN OUR RAIDER DEFENSE IS!!!! JUST THERE THOUGH! EVEYWHERE ELSE WE ARE FAR SUPERIOR!!!!IN EVERY WAY!!! EVEN W/ MCOWN & KIFFIN BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!
January 13th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Well, this mock actually has Atlanta taking McFadden and I must say that it is one of the most informative mocks out there. Its very knowledgable of the teams picking and their needs vs talent available – because its developed by the fans of those respective teams -who I would assume knows more than we do about their teams. And they likely know more than a single person who mock picks for all teams.
http://www.nflfans.com/x/view.php?pg=officialmock1_2008
January 13th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
If Miami doesn’t grab Ryan 1st over
January 13th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Great links thanks!
January 13th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Congrats Tony Dungy,
I haven’t seen a coach that expressionless since Art Shell, and in your own backyard after a bye your defense goes into the tank against Volek & Turner!
You made Norvell Turner look a legitimate NFL coach…On that not just retire Tony.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
OH & P.S. THANK GOD!!!!!!
ROBRYAN GOT NORV TURNER FIRED,
AND RANDY MOSS TRADED!!!
GEEZ CAUSE IF HE DIDNT WE HAVED TO TRAVEL TO INDY TODAY TO WATCH OUR TEAM BEAT THE COLTS ON THE ROAD!!! IN THAT COLD !!! NO WAY !!
AND THEN NEXT I’D HAVE TO TRAVEL TO NEW ENGLAND TO WATCH MY RAIDERS BITCH SLAP!THE PATS IN THE COLD!!OH MY GOD!!THAT WOULDVE SUCKED !!!! SO GOOD THING HE GOT NORV TURNER FIRED!!!!CAUSE I LIKE STAYING WHERE IT IS WARM!!!!!
OH HAY, YOU KNOW WHAT ILL TAKE THAT BACK , CAUSE IF WE HAD MOSS@WR/ AND TURNER AS HEAD COACH AND WE WOULD BE IN THE PLAYOFFS
THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY FIRED ROBRYAN,
AND ARE THE FIRST SEED!!! AND PLAY AT HOME WHERE IT IS WARM!!!!
MAN THAT REALLY SUCKS!!! EVERY ONE KNOWS THE PATS WERE NEVER THIS GOOD till RANDY MOSS GOT “GIVEN TO THEM” FOR FREE!!!!!OOPS A 4TH RNDR!!!
SO IF WE HAD MOSS STILL , THE PATS COULD NOT BE 17-0 AND ON THE WAY TO A FOURTH SUPE BOWL!!!! WOW ALL BECAUSE OF ROBRYAN!!!! SO ROBRYAN SHOULD GET A THANK YOU FROM THE PATS !!! OR MAYBE A JOB OR CASH FOR THE GREAT UNDERMING JOB, HES’ PULLED OFF!!NO THAT COULDNT BE COULD IT!!!????? SURE IS!!!!DO THE MATH!!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Jamar Adams or Josh Barrett in rnd 3?
January 13th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Since we talkin draft,..for me, with Jamarcus, the next NFL superstar, as our man for the next 15 years,…put McFadden behind him,…are you kidding me?….what a dynamic duo that would be for a decade….McFaddens dont come around often….with Russell, forget about it,…we dominate once again.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Jamarcus 08
You know what you are talking about
January 13th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Rob Ryan that’s how you call a defense. Listen!
January 13th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
I wonder what who we will actually be able to trade for draft picks? Burgess? Walter? Washington?
And …
I see a lot of commentary from the mock drafts that basically have us playing a 3-4 next year. If that’s the case, aren’t Richardson and Kelly good enough DE’s? I think the question is at DT. Can Warren play NT? Will Sands be better suited as a NT in the 3-4? and more importantly, can Ellis or Dorsey play NT in the 3-4?
I surely don’t see a LB worthy of the #3 pick, so maybe we end up trading down?
Or maybe we should take McFadden. I think the question is does he have the potential to score each game? More than once? If yes, then he might have to be the guy.
January 13th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Jhill – I am dropping that as even an option right now to trade Burgess (unless we get a bona fide replacement). I am looking at these playoff games and teams are running up and down the field b/c of non-existant pass rush. We need a pass rush. We need Burgess. I don’t wanna see opposing offenses on the field all day.
I don’t see us going 3-4 at this point in time. Too many holes to fill (SS, ILB, NT, and DE).
January 13th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
We don’t have a round 3 pick unless we get a comp pick for loosing Fargas or Porter or something.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
twerp fan chargers got nothing on us , exept 4 the last 5 years mm how about the first 40 sum years? lolzzz since u know how record against the chargers 9-0 in last 5 years & 19-81 against the league ok can u also post our record against the chargers first 40 years then against the league too
January 13th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
i lost A LOT of money today on these f’in games. how in the hell did a phillip rivers-led team just make it to the AFC championship??? i’m shell-shocked.
BTW, rivers talks sh!t like he’s a pro-bowler. with THAT arm, i’d keep my mouth shut. twerp has a better arm than rivers
January 13th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
you see what happens when you put 2 good def cordntrs
in charge of decent talent!
you get todays dallas giant game!
both defenses held the other teams offense to punts late in 4th qtr repedtly, !!!
now good thing 4 them they dont have robryan as their def cord , because the both wouldve lost whatever leads their offenses assembled!
imagine the frustration on the players face if ryan was on the giants sidelines pullin all that f’d shit
he does late in games!!! he would go to the prevent with 5 mins to go at midfield!!hes’done it before!!
he wouldve blitzed @ their own 22 on 3rd& 4th down creatin an open seam in middle of endzone for romo to put the game winner threw!!
and all u ryan fans wouldve blamed the players!!!
now today spagnulo ! of giants showed why he is a great def cord! he puts his back 7 in the rite spots to suceed! minimal blitz!! and he keeps rotating 8 dlinemen all day!!!
NOW IT IS OBVIOUS THAT OUR FRONT 4 IS BETTER THEN GIANTS, BECAUSE TOLLEFSON IS GOOD ENUFF TO BE ON GIANST, BUT NOT GOOD ENUFF TO BE ON RAIDERS,
SO ALL YOU RYAN FOLK MUST BE HAPPY WITH THAT!!KNOWING THAT WE ARE THAT MUCH BETTER !!!!!!!!!!
BUT WHERE ARE THE 50+ SACKS LIKE THEY HAVE ??????????!!!
OH RITE ! THERE IN MIAMI-w/MOSES!,ATLANTA-W/HUNNTLEY, GIANTS- TOLLEFSON, PATRIOTS-RASHAD MOORE,
RAVENS-RIDDLE, AND the rest are gettin either suffocated , trying to stop the run!in burgesss’case! or sittin the pine in braytons case!!
or playin” outofposition”(oops)
in williams case , or never being utilized in THOAMS HOWARDS CASE!!! as a devastating blitzing olbr w/ 10+sacks in rookie year or this year for that matter!!
howard should have 20+sacks in career!
why not!!!robryan!!!!!he is the worst!!!ever!~!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
sad part is I want new england to lose very bad, and will sadly watch them tear the chargers up….and today lt and crying rivers hurt their knees lol, charger fans enjoy your morol victory…its all you will have because we all know ….
Chargers teams in the supper bowl…1,
Loses in the big game 1
chargers trophies 0000000
some things never change.
So doesnt count for anything charger fan, gotta have that ring.. really hope you enjoyed those 2 playoff victories its all you have, and your team is aging right before your own eyes, every down every play.. the end is coming and back to the bottom for the dolts
January 13th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
bob….
dead on about twerp. obviously he’s never heard the proverb about letting sleeping dogs lie. i will charish the future beatings jamarcus and co are going to lay on the chargers heads in years to come. mark it down, IT WILL HAPPEN.
i’m here everyday(formally, “love_child of mr. gannon), and i love reading your posts. i typically don’t ever agree with you, but nonetheless, i like reading your obviously educated scribe.
what’s your thoughts on the draft?? this is a slippery slope. DT, LT, or WR…..or SS??
January 13th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
The more i contemplate the 08 campaign the more I am convinced that the raiders need to trade down if they get the 4th pick or a chance at McFadden. Everybody knows that McFadden is coveted by Jerry Jones and he will trade away his draft to get that kid.
The Raiders have many holes and needs to fill, and they could really jump start the team by trading down for the 22nd, and I am guessing the 30th pick along with other picks and players to make the deal work: 3rd pick overall is worth 21-2200 points pick value chart and the 30th and 22nd are worth 1400 combined (780 and 620 respectively).
The Raiders could parlay those picks for some young studs plus the Cowboys 61st pick (292 pts)and 92 pick (132 pts). those picks would still leave a gap that could be use for a futre pick or maybe a prospect pick like Bobby carpenter who has not seen the light of day in Dallas as lb.
That is five good prospects for one star player. That is one hell of a deal that would be sort of like what Dallas did to Minnesota back in the late 80’s.
The Raiders could possibly get their hands on Players like Sam Baker, Frank Okum, Kenny phillips, Craig Steltz, Early doucett… . The bottom line is the raiders could fill their many wholes in almost one swoop because they already have some prospects on the roster that would compete with this crop: Mquistain, Henderson, Clemmons, Johhny Lee Higgins, micheal bush.
The raiders ought to get Albert Haynesworth into the fold. He would bring back that nastiness that has been missing in Oakland for some time now.
January 13th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
townsend you have Cotrell and Dungy coaching a solid SD defense and the defending world champion defense. Each team gave up over 400 yards in offense. What happened there?
January 13th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
i have no idea who to root for next sunday. i can’t stand either team. i want the patriots to lose, but i can’t stomach the thought of the chargers in the super bowl because of their idiot fan base.
…plus, it will be nauseating to listen to phil simms for three hours next sunday. pats/bolts is gonna be ass-kissa-palooza for phil…his head’s gonna explode.
January 13th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
i got to thinkin , what if ryan was def cord for cowboys!all year for 07 !??? what woud the roster look like ! well 4 starters dallas def ranked 6th vs run 94 per game,well right there that is not ryanesque!so that has to change! and they ranked 13th vs pass yds allowed!w/ 213. but they got 19ints& a whoopping 46 ascks for a 3rd ranking wow!!!!!!now that is not ryanesque at all!!! so what would ryan do !
well first thing is f’ with the personel!
he would have @ wde- 6-7 300 lb canty!this takes away any back pursuit vs run, & nullifies any outsidespeed rush that usually works from the weak side!just like he did w/kelly!!+
then
@sdt-spears slow but average size, so any double team nulifies run def, and no pass rush from him at all!!
then @wdt-ellis 6-7-270 no run def abilty at all, and yeah if not dbl teamed gets 5-7 sacks w/grit&fire,some of ryans& your fav metaphors!gritty!!!fiery!!!oh yeah that really adds up to wins!!
then my fav ! S.D.E.- THE important run deterant spot on line!who better to put other then your best PASS RUSHER!!!
yeah thats rite all 245 lb DAMRCUS WARE!!!!!
IN HIS 3RD YEAR HE has 34 sacks! same ascension as burgess!so the best way to take his sacks totals and render WARE AS A NON FACTOR IS PUT HIM AT A
“RUN STUFFING ROLE”AT 245LBS!
JUST LIKE HE DID TO BURGESS!AND RUIN WARES CAREER, ALL THE WHILE THE DALLAS PASS RUSH DISAPEARS & SACK COUNT GOES DOWN FROM 46 TO 26 IN 1 YEAR!!!
now these ryan moves will take away their run def & pass rush ,
now what about the back 7 , its gonna be tuff,but ryan can do it!
MOVE roy williams from a run supporter ,PROBOWLR @ S.S.to ILBR “hell hes almost 230lbs, and cause of his speed it’ll be a mismatch”"yap!just like BING & WILLIAMS!!
then put REEEVES @ 5-11-185LBS W/ the jets to run 4.4/ 40 @scb so he can offer his run support!!@ 185lbs
just like he did to fabian!!
NOW THESE MOVES HES’ ACTUALLY PULLED OFF OVER IN OAKLND SO IN TRUTH IF HE WAS @ DALLAS , THIS IS WHAT HE WOULD do RITE AWAY!!!
I COULD JUST HEAR HIM NOW!”well , hell wares’ speed makes it a mismatch @sde!! “& williams speed makes him tuff to block in the middle!!,so thats a mismatch too”
then well see dallas go from 13 wins to 4 or 5,
from 4th overall ranked defense to 32nd in 1 year. kinda like whats happened in oaklnd !!!! this is really what this jerk would do and you dopes would all agree with him!!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Say Townsend,
Quentin Moses played in 7 games for the Dolphins had 7 tackles and 1 and a half sacks. THAT EXTRAPLILATES TO 3 SACKS FOR THE YEAR!!!!!
Dave Tollefson played in 6 games and had THREE TACKLES. No, that’s not sacks, that’s THREE FREAKING TACKLES!!!!!
Atlanta CUT KEVIN HUNTLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rashad Moore played one game in New England.
You said for the Raider Jacksonville game, Jacksonville runs 70% of the time on first down. Well, they threw 70% on first down vs. the Raiders. 70% is pretty close, because every time I’ve fact checked your work, Townsend or Soul Patrol, OR WHATEVER you call yourself, you’ve been WRONG!!!! Seriously wrong. Sometimes you have good imput and insight, but most times, including personnel and your views on defense are waaay wrong. I would rather have Rob Ryan kick me in the nuts, than have the Raiders take your advice. Get your facts right. Just saying.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Hey Nation,…enyone else using this message board have their seats in the north endzone?..Im in 131,…northeast corner.
January 13th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Where are the next round of questions from Jerry??
January 13th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
raider Nation, I GOT YOU…Ride my back homies, it’s on no matter what the organizatino status is, I GOT YOU, One LOVE… RAIDER NATION…IM IN…….
January 14th, 2008 at 1:55 am
AMEN!!!!townsend93
RR was nothing but a special team coordinator and linebackers coach for the patsies Another of AD dum @$$ moves thinking he’s going to turn chicken sh!T into chicken soup, IF RR is such a brilliant Defensive mind the weasel billicheat would have promoted him to D-coordinator when Cronell left!! The defense has been horrible and kiffin must rid himself of Ryan if he is to have any chance!!!
January 14th, 2008 at 5:07 am
hey oaklglenn or raider dell , whoever i am never wrong with my facts , NEVER!!!!you on the other hand are so dis- ingenuious that you think just sounding like you are correcting someone , male you rite & them wrong!
tollefosn 1 play vs tampa 1 sack!!!moses played in only 63snaps for miami! w/ 2 sacks and constant double teams!!! clemosn playedin over 425 snaps & got wow 8 sacks! etc !!!!!!!!!11
look ryans’ gone al is lettin him twist in the wind!!! thats it !!!! go follow him to st.louis!!
January 14th, 2008 at 7:18 am
I remember back in the day when our corners used to make plays at the line of scrimmage on run plays..
When is the last time we saw that ? Albert Lewis Terry McDaniel era ?
January 14th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Chargers and Pats in the AFC championship is my worst nightmare come true. While there is little chance of the Dolts beating the Pats, we all know the age old adage of “On Any Given Sunday” can rear it’s ugly head at any time. The fact that Norv’s team beat Indy with LT and that punk of a QB on the bench is a surprising.
As for the Raiders, Kiffin just needs to bunker down, and get on with building a playoff caliber team. Raiders will be in the playoffs next year.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
we do need a stadiam so be it . if you bild it they will come.
January 16th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Dublin?Damn I liked the fact the airport was so close to the Coliseum. but the Raiders have needed a new stadium for years. Even in the LA years!
January 29th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
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January 29th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
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