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Kiffin comment

Lane Kiffin’s comment from Mobile, Ala., site of the Senior Bowl, according to ESPN.com:

“I’m not going to comment on anything that has transpired in the past three weeks,” Kiffin said.

The last three weeks.

Just about the time Kiffin wanted to make a change at defensive coordiantor and the Raiders sent out a release saying Rob Ryan would stay.

It all sounds pretty plausible from here.

At the season-ending press conference, Kiffin was resolute in changes he said were forthcoming with the Raiders. It was also clear he believed he had the power to make those changes happen.

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  • RaiderDogg

    nice post Terrapin

  • publius

    AZ Raider, you are exactly right. Davis is a dictator, and I guess that is allowed in the NFL, but it is no way to run a successful franchise. What Raider fans need now is a Brutus to end our misery. Long live the republic and long live the Oakland Raiders. Death to tyrants.

  • Jace

    So true AZ Raider…we will always support no matter what happens.

    Now back to Kiffin, do we know for certain if those drafts picks were Kiffin’s or Al’s? We don’t really know who is making decisions do we?

    Regardless, my main focus now is the draft and free agency in the offseason to see which direction we go and just pray that whoever is calling the shots that the players on the field can still make a difference.

    Wishful thinking I know but got to find something positive in all this drama!

  • http://oakglenn Oakglenn

    Wow. You guys still haven’t relaxed???? Jeez, here, don’t you guys remember this with Jon Gruden?? Gruden is going to Ohio State, Gruden is here, there and everyhwere. Every few weeks Gruden was fighting with Davis and going somewhere. And no, Gruden wasn’t run off by Davis. That’s what happens when you have a hot commodity coach. It’s like when your girlfriend is hot, dudes talk to her, ask her out. Maybe some of you guys don’t know about that part.
    Nancy Gay comes out and says Davis stripped Kiffin of all his power. That’s LUDICROUS!! Amy Trask completely refutes that, Amy is a lawyer and frankly, Kiff would’ve filed a grievance with the league if that would’ve happened or sued for breach of contract. One thing I can tell you about Davis, HE SUES OVER BREACHES, he doesn’t get sued over breaches. Kiffin, when he signed on, had contractural specificities that allow him a lot of control. Which was wise of him, giving Al Davis’ long history.
    Next, contrary to what you all believe, James Lofton and Davis are on good terms. I’m sure Lofton is coming up north here to explain to Davis what happened.
    Here, I’ll let you guys in on what happened to Lofton in San Diego. When the lame Dischargers choked another playoff game even tho Brady threw 3 pix, all the players went to Lofton, not Norv. Talk about being UNDERMINED. Norv fired Lofton on the spot, and Lofton would be a great hire here in Oakland in any capacity. I’m sure Kiff wouldn’t want him, but Lofton has been over in SD for 6 years, which corresponds to the lame Discharge rise. Coincidence??? Probably not.
    Lastly, yeah, I know, Oakglenn is an idiot, I don’t know sh**. Remember you heard it from me here first: Holmgren will be coaching the Whiners by this time next year.

  • 137

    There’s a difference between being a loyal Raider fan, and deciding not to spend $3,200 on tickets because you don’t agree with the way the organization is being run.

    For those of you who are calling people out for jumping ship.

  • Raider Lou

    What has Al done for us lately? Not a damn thing other than F*ck things up for our once Proud Franchice. Al is the sole reason behind the Raiders down fall and he will continue make these dumb decsions…

    albert bigelow paine Says:
    The greatness of the Raiders in in the future. This is the team of the decades. No other
    AFC west team has won more Superbowls, and that trend will continue into the 2010’s. Great thing are ahead as this team will just keep winning baby. We just need to keep our commitment to excellence and have faith in Mr. Davis.

  • SIA

    ANOTHER LOSINS SEASON AWAITS US

  • Memo

    Also, I’m sick & tired of all the nostalgic talk & what Al Davis has done to this organization. They won a Super Bowl in 81. I was negative 2 months old when they won! So what if he build this great empire that is the Raiders. Look at what he’s doing to it now! The Raiders will NEVER be that team we all expected it to be because AL DAVIS IS A DOUCHEBAG!!!

  • WHY_BLAME _AL

    I know we ALL bleed Silver and Black, but I STRONGLY believe no one bleeds it more than Al. I think what people FAIL to realize is Al doesn’t haven’t long left on this earth. He wants to win a Superbowl before he dies. I truly believes he is trying to win at all costs right now. Going 4-14 to an owner who may not have more than 4 years left to live is PURELY not acceptable.
    He wants to put a winner on the field, not wait for 4 years that he doesn’t have.
    I think there is a method to his madness. I think if we all felt we had one more year left to live, we would sell out for a SuperBowl at all costs. I think that’s what Al wants, and with every loss he gets more anxious because he knows time is running out.

  • AZ Raider

    Oakglenn, interesting information on Lofton, where did you get that?

  • KoolKell

    Do you guys see why I was sweatin you for the last 3 weeks? This is important sht. Something Fishy around here.

  • Memo

    Why would Lofton be a good pick up? Its not like he will have full control over the team. Not even if Lombardi cam back from the dead to coach the Raiders will he be able to turn it into a winning franchise because Al Davis would f*ck that up too

  • RaiderDogg

    Oakglenn -

    I agree with you wholehearterdly accept for one thing. Holmgren will not be the coach of the Whiners, he will be hired in a similar capacity to Bill Parcells in Miami. He will be Vice President and GM or something that involves full control, especially in the personnel department.

    Nice post OG.

  • discgman

    I just emailed the raiders organization….

    “If the rumors are true and Lane Kiffin is fired, you will lose my 12 season tickets that are coming up due this year. I know I am not the only Raiders fanatic that is threating to give up their tickets, rumor has it thousands of others will be doing the same. Al Davis can make any decision he wants, but the fans have finally had enough. We will make our voices heard…”

  • RaiderDogg

    we’ll be here when you get back Discgman

  • Memo

    But if thats the case WHY_BLAME _AL, wouldn’t it make more sense to keep some sort of stability in the organization would help in winning a championship? When was the last time a first year head coach won a super bowl?

  • RaiderDogg

    Memo -

    Callahan came close.

  • AZ Raider

    I like what you’re trying to do Discgman but really? I think you’ll be watching and Al knows someone is waiting for those seasons you got there…

    So you play disc golf?

  • Shawnraiders81

    The Detroit Lions have better Managment than we do.

    Oh God that makes me sick.

  • discgman

    Well RaiderDogg, you can sit back and watch the carnage happen, or you can fight and make a stand. I thought the Raider Nation is “the” largest fan base on earth? I mean, if we cannot change the mind of one old GM then I dont know why I would go back. I say we take back our team and own it like a the Green Bay packers.

  • AZ Raider

    See Al is a sadist and he knows we are a bunch of masochist here…

  • Dakota

    STATE OF CALIFORNIA IN CIRCUIT COURT
    COUNTY OF ALAMEDA JUDICIAL CIRCUIT

    RAIDER NATION,
    Plaintiff,
    v. ORDER FOR PSYCHIATRIC
    AL DAVIS EXAMINATION
    Defendant.

    A motion has been made by Raider Nation, the aggrieved party in this case, requesting the Defendant to submit to a psychiatric examination and the Defendant has entered a plea of not guilty and not guilty by reason of mental illness to the charges against him.

    It is, therefore,

    ORDERED, that the Defendant be committed to the Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services at 2000 Embarcadero Cove, Suite 400, Oakland, CA 94606 for examination to determine the following:

    1. Whether the Defendant has the present ability to understand the nature and purpose of winning in the National Football League;

    2. Whether, at the time and place of the request for the resignation of Lane Kiffin as head coach of the Oakland Raiders, the Defendant was capable of knowing the wrongfulness of that act.

    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that such determination be promptly communicated to the Raider Nation. It is further

    ORDERED that the Sheriff of this County transport and convey said Defendant, Al Davis, to the Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services at 2000 Embarcadero Cove, Suite 400, Oakland, CA 94606 and deliver him into the custody of Satan, or his representative and that said Defendant remain in the custody of Satan until the examination is completed.

    Dated this 25th day of January, 2008.

    BY THE COURT:

    _______________________________________
    Circuit Court Judge

    ATTEST:
    ______________________________ Clerk of Court
    (SEAL)

  • Memo

    48-21 doesnt sound very close to me bro. BTW, Callahan’s true colors came out the following year

  • discgman

    AZ Raider, I have played disc golf since 92. I will be playing more than normal this football season!

  • Dakota

    Rdrzrule

    Dang, my formatting didn’t hold up…but I think that might help you in your cause to get AD committed.

  • WHY_BLAME _AL

    # Memo Says:
    January 25th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    But if thats the case WHY_BLAME _AL, wouldn’t it make more sense to keep some sort of stability in the organization would help in winning a championship? When was the last time a first year head coach won a super bowl?

    Agreed, but thats why he hands out 2 year contracts and has changed coaches so frequently. Gruden went 8-8. That was close enough for Al to give it more time. Had Callahan went up against anyone else but Gruden in the SB, the Raiders would have a ring.

    I think Al feels that 2 years is enough time to get a team in position to win it all. Gruden proved that in a way and so it confirmed Al’s belief.

    I would say I do not like the way things are, but I have my whole life ahead of me. Al doesn’t, and in speaking to Lifetime Raider fans (meaning over 70), they want a championship now and Kiffin, for all the praises he is getting on here, don’t see him doing it anytime soon with his way of coaching and managing games. Its a catch-22..

  • AZ Raider

    nice post Dakota, that would be priceless!

  • RaiderDogg

    Discgman -

    Thats a nice idea, I just don’t see it happenning. Good for you for making a stand though, I commend you. I just don’t know if it will make any difference. I guess if I was investing thousands of dollars I would still invest because I am a Raiders fan, always will be. I’m going down with the ship, maybe I’m just as crazy as Al or even crazier, but there’s nothing I can do it about it now. At least I can swim…

  • FormerRaider

    This is unbelievable. The Raiders showed significant progress last year. Kiffin did an okay job for his first year as a head coach. Al has got to go!! I am sick of supporting this organization. The Raiders continue to be the butt of all sports franchise jokes..
    If Kiffin is gone, so am I..

  • RaiderDogg

    From the Law Firm of Dakota & McFadden

  • Memo

    So you’re point is, evaluate a coach for a year. If he goes .500 or over, give him another shot? If that is Al Davis’ method then he’s going to die way before the Raiders get another Lombardi trophy. I beleive that it makes more sense for AL to say “maybe my methods aren’t working, so let me try this”; instead of going thru coaches like I go thru bags of weed.

    I respect your comments btw, but Al Davis is the sole reason why this team has yet to even sniff .500

  • WHY_BLAME _AL

    # Memo Says:
    January 25th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    48-21 doesnt sound very close to me bro. BTW, Callahan’s true colors came out the following year

    I agree whole-heartedly, but if you played sports and during practice you played against your offense, you already know the plays and its harder for the offense to do anything. Tampa Bay knew the plays, plain and simple. heck, Jon Lynch said plainly on TV during the supoer bowl, they are doing exactly what coach said they would do. They knew the plays and where Rich was going.
    Its the same Reason Don Nelson beat the Mavs last year. GSW wasn’t better than the Mavs, Nelson put them together and the plays, so he knew how to stop them.

  • Tom

    I will not renew my season tickets if the crap is true.I am so sick of going thru this every year. Winning TAKES TIME!!! Give the young gun a chance. Idiot owner . Davis has lost it.

  • http://www.ronpaul2008.com Raider Buck

    For what it matters, here’s the converstaion I just had with Raiders Headquarters: “Are the Raiders going to release a statement??” “Statement over what, sir?”,
    “There’s a lot of rumors all over sports TV and radio that Al Davis wants Lane Kiffin gone!”. “Yes, and that’s exactly what they are, sir, rumors.”….”So, Lane isnt going anywhere”?..”No, we dont have anything like that in front of us.”

  • http://oakglenn Oakglenn

    Dakota wins with post #221!!!

  • 137

    Raiderdogg,

    Don’t you live in the Bay Area?

    Why don’t you have season tickets?

  • Dakota

    new post up

  • WHY_BLAME _AL

    # Memo Says:
    January 25th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    So you’re point is, evaluate a coach for a year. If he goes .500 or over, give him another shot? If that is Al Davis’ method then he’s going to die way before the Raiders get another Lombardi trophy. I beleive that it makes more sense for AL to say “maybe my methods aren’t working, so let me try this”; instead of going thru coaches like I go thru bags of weed.

    I respect your comments btw, but Al Davis is the sole reason why this team has yet to even sniff .500

    I appreciate your comments as well.. Thanks.. but have you ever heard the saying its hard to teach an old dog new tricks? It has been well documented that Al doesn’t think much of coaches. He thinks more of players. Remember as the former coach himself, he thought that players were the reason the team was successful, not the coach. That being said, I doubt he would think, maybe I’m the problem. he’s thinking, the Coach is the problem.
    If everyone feels Ryan needs to go and Al says Ryan stays and Kiffin goes, that’s all you need to know how valuable he feels a head coach is.

  • http://FixtheboldJerry.com Terrapin

    Man I must admit reading through all your comments sure does give me a laugh. U guys really are crackin’ me up here.

  • discgman

    RaiderDogg, the first step is admitting you have a problem, then you can fight it. All of us have been thru the sh!t like the sewer pipe in the shawshank redemption with Al Davis’s team. We need to come out the other end and say enough is enough. I am not spending any more of my hard earned money on this product. I will watch at home for free in between my ice skating championships and english soccer.

  • RaiderDogg

    137 -

    Yes I do live in the bay area. Unfortunately I have a family of 3 that requires my financial support. I’m lucky if I can go to 2 or 3 games a year. I always go to at least 1 game a season. Basically what I’m trying to say is that I can’t afford it or even more I can’t justify that amount in my budget. If I could I would in a heartbeat. It’s actually a dream of mine to one day get ready to order my season tix on the lower level, West Side. I would do it today, right now, if I had the money to do so. Until then I do what I can to catch games whenever possible.

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  • duffman84

    I have formerly drafted a letter asking Al to retire. All he has to do is sign it. Until he does I am retired as a Raider fan.

  • James

    I heard someone mention Cowher…ARE YOU KIDDING ME…NO SELF-RESPECTING COACH WILL TAKE THIS CRAPPY JOB…I CAN’T BELIEVE EVEN ONE RAIDER FAN WOULD ACTUALLY BE IN DENIAL OVER THIS WITH THE “Oh it’s just rumors”…WHAT FRIGGIN’ PLANET ARE YOU ON…OH THAT’S RIGHT DAVIS’ PLANET AND HE’S GOT YOU BY THE BALLS.

    JOKE…JOKE…JOKE…THE ONLY GUY WHO TAKES THIS JOB NOW IS CAM CAMERON…RIDICULOUS!

  • eric the midget

    I am so mad I just punched my wife in the face.

  • http://iblogyoudecide.blogspot.com Kurgan

    Here we go again.

  • discgman

    “I am so mad I just punched my wife in the face.”

    OMFG!! ROTFL!!

  • Am I in?

    well i hate to say.. but i am usually not on the Kill Al Davis bandwagon, but if its true.. i can no longer support Al Davis, I know there is a lot going on that we don’t know, But we need to email the offices , you hurt someone one by money.. so boycotting the games is the way to make changes, BUT if its not true, we need to boycott the BSPN and flood then with calls and emails to disrupt them like they are us..
    For those who say he didn’t do anything.. i would disagree, he kept the team playing thru the whole season, which is something that is a start to turning the team around, which if he leaves, will destroy the moral.

  • James

    All right maybe some of you will understand this. Al Davis is the boyfriend and he keeps beating his girlfriend (fans)…how much are you going to take? Seriously?

  • duffman84

    I am so mad I punched your wife in the face