Lofton interview concludes


The Raiders finished a day-long interview with James Lofton for an undisclosed position and senior executive John Herrera had no announcements other than the interview went well and there could be a resolution in the next day or so.

Lofton, fired last week by the San Diego Chargers, twice interviewed for the head coaching job with Al Davis. His interview this time was with coach Lane Kiffin and offensive coordinator Greg Knapp, according to Herrera, indicating Charles Coe could be on his way out as wide receivers coach.

Having Kiffin and Knapp involved in the hiring of an offensive assistant means any differences the head coach has with owner Al Davis regarding makeup of the defensive staff appear well short of Kiffin either resigning or being fired in the near future.

While stories run rampant of what has gone on behind closed doors since the end of the season, the one I’m certain of is that Kiffin wanted to change defensive coordinators and Davis did not.

I was told today Kiffin’s problem with Ryan is not of a personal nature but one of philosophy. The statement released by Raiders spokesman Mike Taylor was essentially a rebuke to Kiffin.

(Taylor disagrees with this. He called to say Kiffin’s later comments in Mobile about Ryan being under contract and being “excited” about Ryan’s return refute my contention. To me, the key part of that quote was “Rob is under contract.”)

In any event, the fact that Kiffin returned to work and is in the process of making staff changes is the second indication he wants to stay _ the other being his postgame response following the Senior Bowl.

When asked after the game if he would be coach of the Raiders in the fall, Kiffin said, “I hope so.”


Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • What do you have to say Acey?

  • Just sell Baby……..

    Just ask Alvin Davis what his carpet in his office looks like ! He got it wrong 2 times………

    Just sell baby and so it is…………..

  • RaiderDell

    Madden Raider

    Is that you?

    No, I can’t take credit for your slap down post by Acey #241.

    I wish I could.

    When registration starts what multiple user names will be vanquished.

  • Acey40Deuce

    I say that your real name or at least last name that you posted under was Beach. I remember you and Dell going back and forth and as I recall Dell owned you. I don’t know Dell personally but I get the feeling that he is an honest guy that probably only uses one name.

  • I’m not a fan….

    I’m THE man.

  • Acey40Deuce

    Maybe Dells is right and you are MaddeningRaider. Either way grow some stones and stop hiding behind multiple names!

  • RaiderDell


    I told RaiderDogg yesterday it not worth our time, you definetly got him upset with post 241.

    I will try to avoid multiple user names, it just brings us down to their pathetic level.

    Let’s talk Raiders draft or Fa.

  • ATLRaider

    Al Davis WAS the man…25 Years ago. Michael Jackson was cool back then too… How times have changed.

  • K-Rock

    K-Rock is K-Rock. I hide behind no other user names. As a matter of fact, check out other Raider blogs. You will find me there under the same name.

    I was missing from post 219 until now because my 9:30 class was over and I am now sitting in Philosophy of Religion taking notes on the A Posteriori Cosmological Arguments for Theism.

    TW…. Those who are young and not a liberal have no heart, but those who are older and not a conservative have no brain.

  • Acey40Deuce

    And those that bring politics into a sports blog should be shot!

    No offense K-Rizzle.

    Dell you are right. Whoever that troll was, I think it was Beach, he appears to be gone now. No point in squabbling over nonsense anyway. You, Oakglenn, Bob Marley, Raider Dogg, Terrapin, and a few others are the only posts I usually read. Every once in a while I like to respond to other trolls to put them in their place. I mostly just read though, you guys always break it down for me. I trust what y’all say much more than the media and you are just as informed if not more.

  • saintkaufman

    Do you guys know if there is a “rule” for what draft picks are potentially worth? Some sort of logarithmic algorithm that can provide a range of what say a #3 or #4 first round draft pick might field?

  • Fender52

    Isn’t it funny how quiet some members of the outside press get (i’m thinking Shefter, et al) when it becomes obvious that their scoop stories were bs!

  • ???

    RaiderDogg Thanks for the corecting me with your post on 238.

    I was not sure of my facts. Has he ever been a HC? I could have sworn he was a failed HC some place.

    As for the rest of my first post it holds up that first thing some guys do on here is just plain stupid, and you can not judge a draft class as good or bad after it rookie year.

    As for my name. I use the question marks cus i aint thought of a cool name for this blog yet. I got names i use in other fourms on other topics that wont work for this one. So for now I am just ??? to stay consistent if i think of something I like that will work I will change it. 🙂

  • RaiderDell



    The level of frustration around here was unbelieveable.

    I understand, but some of those rumors just did’t make sense.

    OakGlenn, Marley, Terrapin, RaiderDogg always bring a level of assurance to this blog, they were great to read especially over the weekend.

  • RaiderDogg

    ??? –

    Dell posted some stats earlier, Saunders was the HC of the Chargeless back in the late 80’s, so you were right about that.

    How about this one for a post name:
    3 Q’s or maybe Anything But 1st!

  • La Milicia Negra

    yo nobody fired!? nobody hired?!

  • K-Rock

    No offense taken.

    I should keep those thoughts away from this board. Sometimes I just get fired up though.

    Sorry Guys!

  • Off topic…

    Not to rain on the Pats parade….but..get this:

    During the Patriots last SB run in 2004 they were called for Zero Offensive Holding penalties. During the current Patriots SB run they have been called for Zero Offensive Holding penalties.

    I did the math, thats a total of 5 games and 142 passing attempts and zero Offensive Holding penalties.

    In 2004 they played the League´s 2nd, 3rd and 7th ranked teams in Sacks, those 3 teams accounted for 133 Sacks.

    In 2007 they have faced the League´s 5th and 9th(tied) ranked teams in Sacks, those 2 teams combined for 79 Sacks.

    That´s 5 games and 142 pass attempts against Defenses ranked in the Top 10 in Sacks during the season….and not one Offensive Holding called on the Pats.

    They´re good, very good but are they that good?.

  • RaiderDell

    Acey, RaiderDogg

    Early lunch,

    Talk with you later.

  • Acey40Deuce

    Article with a different perspective:

    Kiffin-Davis report one-sided
    Column by Dave Del Grande
    Article Last Updated: 01/29/2008 07:19:13 AM PST

    There was something missing from the initial news account that opened another dark chapter in Raiders history last week.
    Chris Mortensen’s byline should have included: “As told by Lane Kiffin.”

    Or maybe it was Monte Kiffin. In either case, it sure wasn’t Al Davis.

    The point is: You can only imagine how the “news” might have been reported if it had come from a member of the Davis family. I’m thinking something like this:

    Lane Kiffin has threatened to make Al Davis’ life a living hell if the Raiders owner doesn’t give him $4 million for doing absolutely no work, sources close to Davis told me today.

    The young man given the opportunity of a lifetime by Davis stormed into his boss’ office on the heels of a season in which his offense improved only marginally despite the organization having imported a handful of key new players, including a Super Bowl star and the No.1 pick in the draft.

    Based on that “success,” Kiffin demanded full control over the defense next season or he was “outta here.” Davis obliged, handing him a letter of resignation.

    Kiffin refused to sign, insisting on being paid in full or he’d go “Randy Moss” on the organization.

    Proving he had a plan of destruction, Kiffin’s first act of defiance was at the Senior Bowl, when he refused to wear a Raiders jacket at the nationally televised game though all his assistants did.

    Doesn’t sound like the story Mortensen reported, does it?

    The moral: Use common sense before before accepting as gospel everything you hear or read.
    Stay tuned for terms of the buyout.

  • RaiderDogg

    Enjoy your lunch Dell!

  • ???

    LOL I will consider that RaiderDogg better then anything else i come up with so far it would be better if we al had to register our handels thhat way others cant gaffel them so easily. LOL so anything but 1st. ok how about 2nd 3rd or 4th. LOL kidding 3 Q’s is in the running but i might wait tell we get forced to register the names that way it cant just be take from me. Seems like i am always getting stuff taken from me. LOL 🙂

    Ok so not

  • jh

    K-Rock…. since we are supposed to be the same person I was wondering….Do we even understand A Posteriori Cosmological Arguments for Theism ?

  • Finally…

    ”Most of the sports media have rolled over and played dead on the New England destroyed-tapes story. The NFL promised to get to the bottom of the Patriots’ cheating and reveal the truth to the public; instead, the NFL destroyed the New England documents and refuses to say what they contained.”

    ”If the documents vindicated New England or the NFL, it would have been strongly in the league’s interest to say so. Instead, the NFL has stonewalled us, so what does that make you think? Until we know what was on the videotapes and in the documents the NFL destroyed, there will always be a cloud of suspicion over the Patriots.”

    ”How much of an advantage did they gain by cheating? Did they really hand over everything to the league? Are they still cheating now? Most important by far, have they cheated in the Super Bowl?.”

    ”And all you sportscasters and sportswriters who will spend this week gushing over the Super Bowl, it would be nice if a few of you mentioned that, a mere four months ago, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell found the Patriots guilty of “a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid long-standing rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition.”

    Gregg Easterbrook espn.com, today.

  • ???

    It would also be good if we can go back and edit our stuff aside from my bad speeling which for me is normal thoes last 3 words on my 288 post aint supposed to be there.

  • Sorry to interrupt the bickering….

    Now, let´s get back to how we suck and how we will suck forever.

  • La Milicia Negra

    Bills signed TE Teyo Johnson.
    Johnson has been kicked around the league since getting drafted in the second round by the Raiders in 2003, and hasn’t played since 2005. He is a capable pass-catching tight end, but has failed in promising situations in the past. He’ll compete for a roster spot, but look for the Bills to further address the position.

  • I have been watching the Pats all morning on Media Day…so I had to vent a little.

  • RaiderDogg

    Bob –

    Please rain on the Pats parade, hell even snow on it and rip through with a hurricane/blizzard. The Pats have been getting games handed to them for years now, although for me it started with the infamous Tuck Rule. I didn’t notice until then because it wasn’t so damn obvious.

    It must be nice to have the refs look the other way and give your team the benefit of the doubt in EVERY situation. With the numbers that you have presented it is impossible not to be called for holding several times let alone once! The refs handed The Pats that Ravens game to them late in the season, it made me sick. No wonder Bart Scott lost his cool, I probably would have reacted the same way.

    Nice post Bob

    Go Giants!

  • Zymurge

    Jumping in on the defensive scheme topic, vis-a-vis primarily a man system verses cover 2, here’s my 2 cents.

    I prefer the concept of sticking with man for a few reasons:
    – As many of said, it is superior IF you have the personnel to run it
    – If you have a system in place year over year the expectation is that returning players get better as the system becomes more instinctive to them
    – The team is two years away from being a real contender, so there’s time to add the right players as available while waiting for the offense to mature
    – The cover 2 is the current fad in the NFL. Which means that most offenses put a lot of emphasis into practising against it. Better to put something out there less used so that teams need are facing a look that they are less familiar with
    – The recent (last 5-6 years) trend in the NFL has moved to TEs as primary receiving threats. This is in large part by design to defeat the cover 2 where the TE can exploit the soft seams underneath the safeties. The AFC West happens to have arguably the strongest overall set of dangerous TEs (Gonzo, Gates and up and comer Scheffler [fantasy breakout tip for ’08 season] not to mention our own Miller)
    – If you look at the the rcent picks of Huff and Howard I’d say that they were pickedspecifically because of their ability to man cover a TE because of the above point. Moving to cover 2 is not to their strengths

    In summary, I think that with the existing personnel, coaching, and experience place that the team is closer to getting to a more effective man scheme than they are to changing to the more vanilla, and thus less effective, cover 2. There’s more to be giined in moving away from the norm and making teams adjust to us, assuming that we can stay the path and get it right by 2009.

  • Florida Pete


    the above is the “official” draft value chart. I belive Bill Parcells developed this in the mid 90’s…

    but i think it is flawed, as it doesn’t not weigh the cost of the pick versus it’s value…

    i would rather have the 15th, 16th, and 17th picks in the first round than just the first pick only…

    but the values say the equation is equal…

  • jh

    Bob here is my take on the cheating…They would not have continued doing it if they felt it didn’t help.

  • Zymurge

    Typing doesn’t seem to be my strong point this morning. Please excuse the many typos. And if anyone is familiar with a strange bug with Vista on a Toshiba M5 where characters are dropped only while typing into web forms, I’d love to hear more about it.

  • K-Rock

    The Cosmolical Argument States that
    i. Everything that began to exist has cause for its existence

    ii. The universe began to exist

    iii. Therefore, the universe has a cause for its existence

    We are now looking at arguments for and against this premise.

    I would understand more if I weren’t on here yapping with you guys. 😀

  • saintkaufman

    Thanks Florida Pete.
    I’ve seen the table before but as we can see there must be ALOT more to it.

  • Jh….

    Weell, here´s my take on the Pats cheating stuff…

    I am a huge fan of Belichick, the simple fact is that he is smarter than everyone else and that´s the reason he´s so succesful.

    So, he was ”cheating” as the Commissioner said it himself, you know what?…good for him, if he found a way to beat the system and to take advantage of the rules, I have no problem with it.

    The Raiders used to be called cheaters, Chuck Knoll even took them to Court over dirty play, which is another way of cheating, anything outside the rules is cheating.

    So, Belichick found a way to get around the rules and more than likely benefited greatly, well blame the league for not taking care of their own product by preventing such a thing.

    What bothers me is not Belichick, what bothers me is the fact that the whole media circus gets them a free pass and gushes over them.

    Their job was to not let this die until it was all out in the open and they failed miserably, of course the league would not expose itself or one of it´s memebers, that´s no good business, that was the media´s responsibility…if there is such a thing.

  • Raider Raul #53

    I just saw Mortensen on the Mike Tirico show…
    Same BS about the Kiffin and Al yadda yadda.
    I heard Nancy Gay “paraphrase” the letter on the radio. Then Trask and Herrera sorta beat around the bush about how Lane still has the same control as before. I WANT THE TRUTH…I CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

  • Raider Raul #53

    BTW, the 7-8 minutes BSPN used to discuss the Kiffin situation is 6-7 minutes more air time than the Raiders got the entire friggin season on BSPN!!
    Crazy Al trumps the press during Superbowl week again!!

  • K-Rock


    The truth is out there.

    Only Al and Kiffin know what it is.

    We will never know.

  • RaiderDogg

    Bob –

    It was the media’s “responsibility” to expose the Patriots as cheaters and the NFL as enablers to that situation. What do they do? The media gushes all over the Pats just like you said. There’s some turmoil in RaiderLand and the mdeia treats it like the Raiders have it coming and continue to pile on, based on unattributed rumors and speculation.

    So let me get this straight. The Pats get caught cheating, with proof and they are media darlings. The Raiders conduct business the only way they know how and get crucified by the media based on speculation, not proof. And some people say that there is no media bias. Please.

  • saintkaufman

    Ask yourself; If Al did compose such a letter, how many people in the organization actually read it??

    You can deduce that either Nancy Gay is full of crap and using speculative comments from “sources” or the Raiders have a major mole problem!

    You decide

  • Acey40Deuce

    K-Rock Says:
    January 29th, 2008 at 11:39 am

    The truth is out there.

    Only Al and Kiffin know what it is.

    We will never know.”

    Cue the X-Files theme music

  • K-rock, isn’t it “cosmological?” It’s kind of like Descartes Ontological argument for the existence of God, where God must exist, because only a being that perfect could conceive of such existence, and put it in his brain.

    Bob, rain on those f*ckrs. I have never wanted a non-Raiders NFL team to win a football game as much as I want the Giants to win on Sunday.

    Klostermann’s deconstruction of the Brady/Gisele photo was good, too.

  • Acey40Deuce

    If God did not exist it would be necessary to invent one.

  • saintkaufman

    Great post RaiderDogg.

    This is about entertainment which is what pays the bills.
    The Patriots are the darling story, Brady is the perfect cover story photo. They are not going to kill what feeds them.

  • Dogg, don’t get me started.

    If Walt Coleman is the ref on Sunday, I may give up Football.

  • RaiderDogg

    Saintkaufman –

    Not to mention the facility that is being built by CBS at Foxboro, which is set to be a “Multi-media NFL experience for all fans of the NFL”. The fact that CBS, a known NFL affiliate, is in business with the folks that own the stadium where the Patriots play, is only further evidence of the collusion that exists within the business of the NFL and it’s partners. It’s called “A Conflict Of Interest”. The sad part is that since they are building this place at the Patiots home site, that tells me that the NFL expects the Patriots to win for many years to come. That notion makes me sick to my stomach.

    Thanks for the props by the way.

  • Florida Pete

    walt coleman is a fine referee.*

    to have on your team.

  • saintkaufman

    The other thing that we all must concede is that The Oakland Raiders are a friggin money machine!
    We are one of, if not THE most beloved and hated teams in all of sports. That my brothers is a fact.

    As a TV show, web site, magazine or newspaper which would you do a report for:

    1 million Dolphin fans
    2 million Rams fans
    20 million Raider fans/haters??

    This is a great year for NFL propoganda. You’ve got the darling team at the top which can bring in a crapload of revenue and the most beloved/hated team at the bottom festering in all of this media created drama which sells just as good.
    Dollars are just a click away!!

    Don’t believe any of it!
    Go Raiders

  • Once upon a time in the west

    Florida Pete,
    Gill Brandt of the Dallas Cowboys came up with the chart.