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Lofton interview concludes

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, January 28th, 2008 at 5:57 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders finished a day-long interview with James Lofton for an undisclosed position and senior executive John Herrera had no announcements other than the interview went well and there could be a resolution in the next day or so.

Lofton, fired last week by the San Diego Chargers, twice interviewed for the head coaching job with Al Davis. His interview this time was with coach Lane Kiffin and offensive coordinator Greg Knapp, according to Herrera, indicating Charles Coe could be on his way out as wide receivers coach.

Having Kiffin and Knapp involved in the hiring of an offensive assistant means any differences the head coach has with owner Al Davis regarding makeup of the defensive staff appear well short of Kiffin either resigning or being fired in the near future.

While stories run rampant of what has gone on behind closed doors since the end of the season, the one I’m certain of is that Kiffin wanted to change defensive coordinators and Davis did not.

I was told today Kiffin’s problem with Ryan is not of a personal nature but one of philosophy. The statement released by Raiders spokesman Mike Taylor was essentially a rebuke to Kiffin.

(Taylor disagrees with this. He called to say Kiffin’s later comments in Mobile about Ryan being under contract and being “excited” about Ryan’s return refute my contention. To me, the key part of that quote was “Rob is under contract.”)

In any event, the fact that Kiffin returned to work and is in the process of making staff changes is the second indication he wants to stay _ the other being his postgame response following the Senior Bowl.

When asked after the game if he would be coach of the Raiders in the fall, Kiffin said, “I hope so.”

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  • saintkaufman

    Thanks Florida Pete.
    I’ve seen the table before but as we can see there must be ALOT more to it.

  • http://none Bob Marley

    Jh….

    Weell, here´s my take on the Pats cheating stuff…

    I am a huge fan of Belichick, the simple fact is that he is smarter than everyone else and that´s the reason he´s so succesful.

    So, he was ”cheating” as the Commissioner said it himself, you know what?…good for him, if he found a way to beat the system and to take advantage of the rules, I have no problem with it.

    The Raiders used to be called cheaters, Chuck Knoll even took them to Court over dirty play, which is another way of cheating, anything outside the rules is cheating.

    So, Belichick found a way to get around the rules and more than likely benefited greatly, well blame the league for not taking care of their own product by preventing such a thing.

    What bothers me is not Belichick, what bothers me is the fact that the whole media circus gets them a free pass and gushes over them.

    Their job was to not let this die until it was all out in the open and they failed miserably, of course the league would not expose itself or one of it´s memebers, that´s no good business, that was the media´s responsibility…if there is such a thing.

  • Raider Raul #53

    I just saw Mortensen on the Mike Tirico show…
    Same BS about the Kiffin and Al yadda yadda.
    What I want to know is: DID CRAZY AL ACTUALLY SEND KIFFIN A RESIGNATION LETTER???
    I heard Nancy Gay “paraphrase” the letter on the radio. Then Trask and Herrera sorta beat around the bush about how Lane still has the same control as before. I WANT THE TRUTH…I CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

  • Raider Raul #53

    BTW, the 7-8 minutes BSPN used to discuss the Kiffin situation is 6-7 minutes more air time than the Raiders got the entire friggin season on BSPN!!
    Crazy Al trumps the press during Superbowl week again!!

  • K-Rock

    Raul…

    The truth is out there.

    Only Al and Kiffin know what it is.

    We will never know.

  • RaiderDogg

    Bob -

    It was the media’s “responsibility” to expose the Patriots as cheaters and the NFL as enablers to that situation. What do they do? The media gushes all over the Pats just like you said. There’s some turmoil in RaiderLand and the mdeia treats it like the Raiders have it coming and continue to pile on, based on unattributed rumors and speculation.

    So let me get this straight. The Pats get caught cheating, with proof and they are media darlings. The Raiders conduct business the only way they know how and get crucified by the media based on speculation, not proof. And some people say that there is no media bias. Please.

  • saintkaufman

    Raul,
    Ask yourself; If Al did compose such a letter, how many people in the organization actually read it??

    You can deduce that either Nancy Gay is full of crap and using speculative comments from “sources” or the Raiders have a major mole problem!

    You decide

  • Acey40Deuce

    K-Rock Says:
    January 29th, 2008 at 11:39 am
    “Raul…

    The truth is out there.

    Only Al and Kiffin know what it is.

    We will never know.”

    Cue the X-Files theme music

  • http://cloakofimmortality.blogspot.com JohnS

    K-rock, isn’t it “cosmological?” It’s kind of like Descartes Ontological argument for the existence of God, where God must exist, because only a being that perfect could conceive of such existence, and put it in his brain.

    Bob, rain on those f*ckrs. I have never wanted a non-Raiders NFL team to win a football game as much as I want the Giants to win on Sunday.

    Klostermann’s deconstruction of the Brady/Gisele photo was good, too.

  • Acey40Deuce

    If God did not exist it would be necessary to invent one.

  • saintkaufman

    Great post RaiderDogg.

    This is about entertainment which is what pays the bills.
    The Patriots are the darling story, Brady is the perfect cover story photo. They are not going to kill what feeds them.

  • http://cloakofimmortality.blogspot.com JohnS

    Dogg, don’t get me started.

    If Walt Coleman is the ref on Sunday, I may give up Football.

  • RaiderDogg

    Saintkaufman -

    Not to mention the facility that is being built by CBS at Foxboro, which is set to be a “Multi-media NFL experience for all fans of the NFL”. The fact that CBS, a known NFL affiliate, is in business with the folks that own the stadium where the Patriots play, is only further evidence of the collusion that exists within the business of the NFL and it’s partners. It’s called “A Conflict Of Interest”. The sad part is that since they are building this place at the Patiots home site, that tells me that the NFL expects the Patriots to win for many years to come. That notion makes me sick to my stomach.

    Thanks for the props by the way.

  • Florida Pete

    walt coleman is a fine referee.*

    to have on your team.

  • saintkaufman

    The other thing that we all must concede is that The Oakland Raiders are a friggin money machine!
    We are one of, if not THE most beloved and hated teams in all of sports. That my brothers is a fact.

    As a TV show, web site, magazine or newspaper which would you do a report for:

    1 million Dolphin fans
    2 million Rams fans
    or…
    20 million Raider fans/haters??

    This is a great year for NFL propoganda. You’ve got the darling team at the top which can bring in a crapload of revenue and the most beloved/hated team at the bottom festering in all of this media created drama which sells just as good.
    Dollars are just a click away!!

    Don’t believe any of it!
    Go Raiders

  • Once upon a time in the west

    Florida Pete,
    Gill Brandt of the Dallas Cowboys came up with the chart.

  • saintkaufman

    Wow,
    and I was pissed at CBS for not broadcasting in HD!

    I’ve got some researching to do….

  • Florida Pete

    Once upon a time in the west Says:
    January 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
    Florida Pete,
    Gill Brandt of the Dallas Cowboys came up with the chart.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    i stand corrected.

  • saintkaufman

    Well good for Gill but it still does’nt provide the answer for what we could feasibly get for our first round pick.

  • M

    Thanks Zymurge for your analysis of a football related topic. I concur wholehearted with your reasoning.

  • http://insidebayarea.com Raiderkoolaid

    First the media tells us Ryan is fired. Then they tell us he is not. Then they tell us Kiffen is being forced out. Then he is interviewing a prospective new WR coach. The media keeps telling us things that don’t turn out to be true, and then then blame Al Davis for it.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    the pats really haven’t had any holding calls against them in the playoffs? that’s criminal. Why hasn’t anyone brought it up so that the refs are “aware”

  • Hobs Gnarly

    On the other hand people keep telling us there is nothing going on and obviously something is

  • Once upon a time in the west

    SaintKaufman heres a trade value example,
    Here’s how the Chargers’ 2004 draft day deal would have plotted out on the point value chart developed to gauge the value of draft picks:

    TO THE GIANTS

    Eli Manning (No. 1 overall)

    3,000 total points
    TO THE CHARGERS

    Philip Rivers (No. 4 overall): 1,800

    2004 3rd-round pick (No. 65): 265

    2005 1st-round pick (No. 12): 1,200

    2005 5th-round pick (No. 164): 25.8

    3,290.8 total points

  • Listen Up

    I wonder if Knapp will sit in on the Al Saunders Interview as well… Even if the reports about the Raiders coaching conflicts are not entirely accurate – the perception of mismanagement and awkwardness is enough to derail Raiders hopes to land valuable free agents. All the more reason that if Al really does put winning above all else, we need a statement or another Al “State of the Raiders” address to clear the air and show the rest of the League that the Raiders have a plan and are not a franchise in total disarray.

  • M

    Hobs Gnarly, oh someone could point that out to the refs and they might, with a wink and a nod, decide to call one as they were caught naked on this one. Only they would call it on some meaningless third and fifteen with a half minute left in the second quarter leading to a punt which would’ve occurred anyway. It is not the call itself, it is when it is called. The Raiders have been eating this crap for years. By the end of the game, penalty yards may appear balanced but during the course of the contest at a key time you can screw the opponent of your choice with any call or non-call.

  • Florida Pete

    Once upon a time in the west Says:
    January 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    very well done, Mr West.

  • saintkaufman

    Thanks Once Upon a Time!
    I was just trying to figure out what Dallas did in ’04 with Jones.

    I can see now how trading down can be very difficult.

    I sure like Jamarcus, but man, we could have loaded up, eh?

    Hmmmm…..do you think we’re stuck at #3 or 4?

  • Hobs Gnarly

    true true M. But still, it’s mindboggling

  • ATLRaider

    That is the funny part of this whole thing… Morons like Chris Mortenson & Adam Schefter are yapping their flapper as much about Al & Kiffin, as they are about the Super Bowl.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    Does anyone know if the Long family has requested the Raiders not draft Chris with their pick?
    How about this senario, Long drafted by the Chefs?

  • http://none Bob Marley

    Yeah Dogg……

    Still, as far as our deal is, I wouldn´t necessarily call it ”bias” and certainly not a ”conspiracy”, more like downright lack of real knowledge and pepetuation of preconceived notions and truth is, judging by our record lately, what else are they gonna say?.

    I think when it comes to dealing with the Raiders the simple truth is that most of the time there isn´t a whole lot of reputable information coming out.

    Which leads most of the media to take whatever rumor they can get and turn it into some sort of catastrophic development, it´s not like the Raiders are gonna come out and call them out, so bashing the Raiders, wether it´s fair or not, will get some headlines.

    And best of all, if it turns out to be rather dubious or inaccurate information, they just forget about it or play the ”who knows what the hell is going on with the Raiders, but something is going on and it must be bad / Al Davis is crazy card”.

    That´s why I really enjoy Jerry McDonald, if you check the local articles written about this whole fiasco over the weekend, you will notice most writters delightfully berating Davis and thoroughly enjoying the opportunity to mock the guy.

    Frankly, it reads a lot more like personal shots on Davis than fact-checked, investigative journalism.

    Jerry, as you may have noticed, is not exactly a Davis fan, he´ll take his shots and call it like he sees it but he reports mostly facts, rarely, if ever, engaging in the type of personal, cynical and destructive critizicsm that prevails in many other outlets.

    I think, as fans we don´t need reporters to tell us how bad we have had it the last few years, we are fully aware of it and some of us feel the tide is about to turn, maybe we are naive but maybe we are right too, only time will tell.

    What we ask for is serious, honest, first hand information we can rely on about the Raiders daily happenings so we can make our own opinions, and that is what Jerry gives us, thanks for that JM.

  • Once upon a time in the west

    Saintkaufman,

    I would like to see us trade down,one player does not make a franchise.This club needs players on the O-line and D-line.But that being said you need two teams who are willing trade partners.
    By the way I cant recall a time Al Davis has traded down a high first round pick.

  • RaiderDogg

    Bob -

    Excellent post as usual. I agree with you about Jerry too. He has made his position pretty clear regarding Davis but he never resorts to allowing his personal feelings to get in the way of good journalism.

  • M

    Very thoughtful BM

  • saintkaufman

    Yeah, I totally agree.
    However, even a couple of spots could get us a third. Unfortunately the RB spot is VERY deep this year and there really is’nt any other skill position players that could go that high, maybe QB. Perhaps Baltimore is someone we could work with.

    I wonder if Arizona could become a potential partner if McFadden is still on the board at #4. You know Wisenhunt wants to run and Edge is hittin the wall. Their D is much improved and could be a couple of O players from finally getting there.

    I hope someone will make a call when we go on the clock. Man, what a cool job those guys have!

  • M

    The tide is once again turning, yes, the Phoenix must burn to arise from its own ashes. Perhaps K-Rock can divine from his Cosmological Theistics and let us know how prominent that rise will be in the nearest of futures.

  • jh

    Although AD does not have to or should he hold a press conference every five minutes…It would help to personally throw a bone out to the press once in awhile…But then again he may be one of those that believes there is no such thing as bad press just as long as your name it out there you are relevant.

  • John Marra

    Thanks for the article, Jerry! Hopefully, someone who knows Al personally let him know that 90% of the Raider Nation are behind Lane Kiffin. And hopefully, Rob Ryan learned something from a terrible defense in 2007.

  • AZ Raider

    Fire Kiffin = Charger.

    No one likes Al Davis as much as Dakota likes McFadden.

  • Raider Raul #53

    Thanks guys.
    Well, I’ve come full-circle in my head about this thing. And the bottom line is this:

    I’m a Raiders fan. All other fans are Raider-haters. Nobody but other Raider fans gives a crap about the Raiders or Raider fans but us. All Raider-hating media (Gay, Kawakami, Mortensen, Schefter, etc) don’t give a crap if what they’re reporting is pure BS or not. If what they report promotes Raider-hating, that’s all they care about. Even IF there is some shred of truth, it doesn’t even matter because Crazy Al will do what Crazy Al wants to do. Crazy Al is not (and SHOULD NOT) be affected by what Raider-hating media is saying or speculating. In the end, I’m a Raiders fan, and there isn’t anything anyone can say or do that will change that.

  • M

    Amen Raider Raul

  • saintkaufman

    Hi Raider Raul.
    I’m SaintKaufman and I’m a Raiders fan too!

  • M

    Although I personally would never refer to Al Davis as “Crazy Al”. Being the Black Sheep of my lineage I am used to non-conformity as a way of being.

  • M

    Saint Kaufmann, I took Raul’s words to mean something other than that he is the only Raider fan there is.

  • saintkaufman

    I’m just as big of a McFadden fan as Dakota!

    As long as it means that we can trade down for his sorry ass! Sorry Darren. You’re good, but not THAT good!

  • Vicky

    Any update on what’s happening at the Raiders HQ

  • saintkaufman

    M,
    Of course not. It was kind of a lame joke about Raiderholism.

  • Florida Pete

    i’m of a mind that Michael Bush and Justin Fargas can caryy the load…

    Rhodes staying on at the right price could be helpful…

    i do not think we need a high priced running back…

  • saintkaufman

    Last year things started to break when coaches were removed from the official web sites coaching staff list before anything was released.

    So far, so good!