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Moss on Media Day

Caught some of Randy Moss speaking about his time with the Raiders Tuesday courtesy of NFL Network.

It reminded me of the time when I asked him about why he seemed to be dropping so many passes, and he responded it was because he wasn’t happy and was in a bad mood.

“Things weren’t really going like I expected them to go, both as an individual and collectively as a team,” Moss said. “People in that organization had high expectations. I got traded there, we had Derrick Burgess, Warren Sapp, so you had a lot of guys that had names . . . I think a lot of things got in the way where football wasn’t really the main priority around there any more.”

No excuse for Moss going in the tank because he was unhappy. None. Not as the highest paid player on the roster, one who was laughably called a “captain” by Art Shell.

But the end of that answer is remarkable when you consider who he is talking about. When Moss says organization, he is talking about Al Davis. Davis is the organization. He is the lone owner in the NFL _ hell, in professional sports _ who was once a coach. He is one of the pioneers of the game, a Hall of Famer.

And here is this huge talent, the kind of player Davis salivates over, saying football wasn’t the main priority with the Raiders. It used to be the only priority.

Misunderstood stars thrived with the Raiders because all they had to worry about was football instead of the layers of miscommunication and confusion which currently emanates from Harbor Bay Parkway.

“Things started getting in the way with coaches and play-calling and stuff like that,” Moss said. “The team-concept was sort of screwed up in Oakland, and really not knowing, I would ever get on this stage, I had to stay positive.”

Moss was in no way “positive” in Oakland, but it has to gall Davis that another environment was more suitable than his own to bringing the best out of football’s most explosive receiver.

Fish to Atlanta

According to the Atlanta Falcons Web site, Jeff Fish was hired as the strength and conditioning coach on the staff of Mike Smith.

Fish has been the Raiders strength and conditioning coach for the past four seasons. Replacing him means they might need another training camp arm. Fish throws a nicer practice pass than some Raiders quarterbacks.

Williams on board

According to the NFLPA logs, Sam Williams is under contract to the Raiders for 2008 for $700,000. He was originally scheduled for unrestricted free agency.

No transactions have been announced by the club since the end of the season. Adimchobe Echemandu has been in the books for a $605,000 salary for a couple of weeks now and it hasn’t been acknowledged by the club.

According to the Raiders Web site, Fish is still the strength and conditioning coach.

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  • RaiderDogg

    RaiderDobb is in the house!

    Seriously I think he counter sued her claiming that she physically and mentally abused him. Meanwhile she’s all of 4’3″ at a buck o five!

    Kidd is from Oakland though so I believe him.

  • http://MaddenRaider MaddenRaider

    Correction: I’d much rather debate peoples’ points head on THAN (as opposed to “then”) make things personal.

  • http://none Bob Marley

    Hobs…

    If I worked in Alameda, I would have already executed my secret plan to set up a crew of our fellow bloggers and kidnapp the Ryan brothers for the weekend, get them the same haircut, same facial hair until you could notell who´s who and then convince them by any means necesasary that Rex is Rob and works for the Raiders and Rob is Rex and works for Baltimore.

  • K-Rock

    I never said they were holding hands. Don’t accuse me because your mad at someone else.

    All I was saying was you can’t state that stuff as fact.

    Kiffin will not just call a press conference during Super Bowl week to answer questions about a stupid news story. He did what the Company required and stated no comment.

    The company Kiffin WORKS for has released a statement through the proper channels stating that Kiffin is the coach and the rest was wild speculation.

    Until further notice, that is where things stand. Anything more is speculation on our part.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    Too funny, I guess your just doggedly stubborn in your support but hey it works for you.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    You know Rob has to have some talent in him he was with belicheat. He should be able to do his thing without someone looking over his game plan if that is the case

  • Zymurge

    Madden — Kiffin didn’t deny the UFO’s in Texas either. Therefore they must exist.

    Marley — How long shall they kill our profits, while we stand aside and look?

    Now would you two gentlemen kindly take this outside.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    Dogg, I like trevor laws too.

  • http://MaddenRaider MaddenRaider

    Hobs Gnarly, I wouldn’t work for the Oakland Raiders for anything short of a king’s ransom. Accuse these shills of being employees of the team all you will, because some of them must be. Either that or they really need to find a better hero to fight for.

  • johnelway

    Moss is a punka$$ bitch. They haven’t won the SB yet. If the Giants corners and safeties give him the biz, he won’t be a factor in the game.

  • http://MaddenRaider MaddenRaider

    Zymurge, what a retarded analogy.

    There is a far more likeliness of Kiffin being drafted a resignation letter than there is of anyone seeing a UFO in Texas.

  • Zymurge

    Err,I meant “Prophets” not “profits” in #357. Strangely, the latter works well too. Must have been a Freudian typo :)

  • http://none Bob Marley

    MaddenRaider

    I did not coin the term Marley´d nor do I care for it.

    But It was my understanding that it meant getting exposed using double standards and basically trying to have it both ways.

    As evidence clearly supports it, that´s right up your alley, not mine.

  • K-Rock

    I live in Texas, and I’ve never seen a UFO! :(

  • Zymurge

    Madden, apparently my sarcasm was lost on you. There’s even more likelihood of Kiffin seeing corn kernels in his morning crap but he didn’t deny that either. The moral here is that a lack of a denial is not proof of existence.

    It’s also Raiders policy to not react to media stories. So technically, for Kiffin to deny the letter would be for him to acknowledge the media rumors, which is in violation of Davis’s policies. So by not denying it, one can say that is demonstrating his loyalty.

    Spin control is easy if you want to take liberties with logic.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    Madden sometimes I wonder about you, but then again I am sure people wonder about me. I accuse Al of being in it for the money to secure his family’s ownership after he is gone. I don’t think he has tried to win in the last five years, constant chaos is a great smokescreen. My other theory is dementia but that is not as conspiratorial. But if someone outside of this blog dogs Al then I will let them know he is Big Al. I appreciate him, I just think it’s time for him to retire. He is ruining his legacy real fast and not just with the general NFL, but with Raider Nation.

  • http://MaddenRaider MaddenRaider

    Fair enough then, K Rock. I won’t “state anything as fact”. But I will say that it’s more than likely Kiffin was drafted the letter, considering the circumstances surrounding this team in the past month.

    I’d imagine I could go through this blog, read all of the posts from the people insisting that the media is making this all up, and point out dozens of unproven things stated as fact from their end, as well. And, I would call them on it, but you’re already on the job! Right? I mean, you are fact checking people defending Davis as well, I assume?

  • ATLRaider

    If Rob Ryan does in fact return next year I hope he:

    - Blitzes more than once per game
    - Kicks Schweigert to the curb
    - Teaches better tackling and aggressiveness
    - Cuts off the Mullet..he looks like a homeless person

  • Hobs Gnarly

    I think I know how you feel Madden though, sometimes Raider fans (a small piece) grate on my nerves to the point I just want to aggrevate them and only here on this blog for some reason. You know your on the street somewhere and you see a Raider fan decked out you feel like saying something to them “sweet outfit” you know.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    One thing for sure, Al better fire his public relations people. They did him a disservice with this thing. My God Kiffin was way out ahead of that story making Al look petty and Al’s guys were stuck with terror or something

  • The Truth Revealed

    MaddenRaider = Mike Shanahan
    Bob Marley = Jim Otto
    Oakglenn = Rod Woodson
    Zymurge = Jarrod Cooper
    Dakota = Darren McFadden
    Raider Dogg = Lester Hayes
    JohnS = John Vella (He thinks the “S’ throws us off)
    Raider Dell = George Atkinson
    Huff24 = Stuart Schweigert
    ATLraider = Mike Vick in jail
    Hobs Gnarly = Charles Barkley
    K-Rock = Lorenzo Lynch
    Acey40Deucey = Jon Ritchie
    Saintkaufman = Nappy Kaufman
    Once upon a time in the west = Terry McDaniel

    did I miss anyone?

  • Hobs Gnarly

    I always say Al has scholarship babies in his front office, not just for the field you know.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    hmmm I am not sure I took that as a compliment, but thanks I am opinionated enough

  • http://none Bob Marley

    MaddenRaider..

    By the way….

    Best of luck on your anti-Davis crusade, I hope, one day you will get the Hall of Fame voters to un-shrine the guy.

    Gotta run now, Al Davis is calling on me, it´s shoe-shine time!.

  • http://none Bob Marley

    Post 371….good one.

    But can I be Jack Tatum instead?.

    I´m sure Huff24 is gonna be thrilled…about that.

  • Zymurge

    How did I rate Jarrod Cooper? I don’t even have any tatts! Can I apply for a change to Ray Guy?

    As for you it can only be:

    The Truth Revealed = Mike Lombardi

    At least if the stores of him being the “leak” are true.

  • http://MaddenRaider MaddenRaider

    Zymerge, I’m relieved to hear that you were just being sarcastic with the UFO analogy, because it was the most retarded analogy I’ve ever read. Just in case you weren’t being sarcastic, and really were trying to pass it off as a legitimate counterpoint (I’m really not sure, as you seem to follow your sarcasm claim with even more stupid analogies), let me point out to you one more time:

    The likeliness of Kiffin receiving a resignation letter trumps the likeliness of anyone seeing a UFO.

    Let me know if you need more help with that.

    And, my moral to you would be that the lack of physical proof of something does not mean it didn’t happen. Think corporations buy shredders because it’s just fun to watch the paper go through?

    Finally, you’ve hit another low point by suggesting that the reason Kiffin hasn’t denied the existence of a resignation letter is because it’s against the team’s policy. Uhm…the team itself actually went on to deny it, thus…violating their own team policy?!?

    Oh, I could really have fun and ask you for proof that there really is such a rule in the team’s policy, but I’d rather it were actually a fact because that would go further to debunk your theory.

    You need a “coulda had a V-8″ smack for that one…

  • Hobs Gnarly

    BHP is Jim Plunkett, Tom FLores, Willie Brown, Amy Trask take your pick

  • ATLRaider

    You forgot FIREKIFFIN…who is really Mrs. Shanahan

  • Dakota

    BHP is John Herrera

  • Dakota

    Huf24 as Stu…ouch.

    DRAFT MCFADDEN BABY!

  • http://cloakofimmortality.blogspot.com JohnS

    who the F*k is John Vella?

  • Dakota

    Art Shell’s Hat is Mike White.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    he did disappear for the longest time while all that was going on, if he is he should fire himself because he got lit up and smoked by Kiffin

  • Hobs Gnarly

    john before your time

  • Once upon a time in the west

    Truth,
    Terry McDaniel 1st round pick Oakland Raiders 10yrs 35 picks, 5td.

    Charles Woodson 1st round pick Oakland Raiders 8yrs 17picks 3td.

    Sorry c-wood looks like I was better.

  • Dakota

    JohnS, just a former Raider that Al Davis sued…now that is loyalty baby.

  • http://MaddenRaider MaddenRaider

    # The Truth Revealed Says:
    January 30th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    MaddenRaider = Mike Shanahan
    Bob Marley = Jim Otto
    Oakglenn = Rod Woodson
    Zymurge = Jarrod Cooper
    Dakota = Darren McFadden
    Raider Dogg = Lester Hayes
    JohnS = John Vella (He thinks the “S’ throws us off)
    Raider Dell = George Atkinson
    Huff24 = Stuart Schweigert
    ATLraider = Mike Vick in jail
    Hobs Gnarly = Charles Barkley
    K-Rock = Lorenzo Lynch
    Acey40Deucey = Jon Ritchie
    Saintkaufman = Nappy Kaufman
    Once upon a time in the west = Terry McDaniel

    did I miss anyone?

    ….

    LOL. Clever. But I’d have to make a few corrections:

    Bob Marley = Artie Gigantino

    OakGlenn = Artie Gigantino

    Acey40Deucy = Artie Gigantino

  • Hobs Gnarly

    Now that it’s all quiet and everyone has assumedly put on a nice face of unity, this blog is bored stiff

  • http://cloakofimmortality.blogspot.com JohnS

    For a team to deny a rumor through a designated spokesperson would not be a violation of the team policy if I’m reading Zymurge correctly. It IS team policy. Kiffin would be showing his loyalty by not speaking out of turn.

    Kissing the Ring, so to speak.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    So who is Amy Trask?

  • Dakota

    Amy Trask is the one that probably kisses more than just the Ring.

  • http://cloakofimmortality.blogspot.com JohnS

    Oh yeah, from John Vella’s Raider Locker Room. I remember now. I bought a bunch of gear at the one in Pleasant Hill. Cool Store.

    Speaking of lawsuits…

    You know that Eminem lyric, “I just settled all my lawsuits/F*k you, Debbie?”

    That reminds me of Al, if this Kiffin beef has legs.

  • http://MaddenRaider MaddenRaider

    When the Al Davis crowd is playing the identity game, that means they got pwned again on something. Believe me, if these guys had an argument to counter the points made by the people who’s ID’s they’re trying to crack, they’d give it.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    didn’t need the visual

  • The Truth Revealed

    LMN = Amy Trask

  • http://MaddenRaider MaddenRaider

    Uh, John S, we’re not allowed to post things as fact here without proof, per K Rock and Zymerge’s rules. So, if you could please give us a link to the team’s official policy, so we can see for ourselves exactly what it says regarding what employees can or can’t say to the press, we can then give the “team policy” point any kind of credibility. Don’t be like MaddenRaider. Don’t draw assumptions based on things that are right before your eyes. You need physical proof! Otherwise, you are speculating!

  • Hobs Gnarly

    Dakota,

    _ _ _ _ ring?

  • K-Rock

    I am Howie Long…

    No Madden, I am not fact checking you. Just happened to read your post when I got here.

    I am not against you. What you say might be true. Just saying that we don’t know anything for sure yet.

    I get the feeling something was up as well. I am just hoping that whatever it is over with.

    Kiffin winning some games next year will go a long way towards fixing things.

  • http://MaddenRaider MaddenRaider

    Speculation, I tell you! Speculators! SPECULATORS!! Ha!

    I want to see the official team policy, now!

    Come on, guys. Play by your own rules.