Waiting for the tag
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, February 19th, 2008 at 3:40 pm in Oakland Raiders.
As franchise tags pile up, still no word from the Raiders regarding Nnamdi Asomugha, who is expected to receive that designation by Thursday’s deadline.
Among those players who have been designated so far or have been told by their teams they will be tagged:
– Chiefs defensive end Jarred Allen. With his history of alcohol abuse problems, you could forgive the Chiefs for simply tagging him every year and paying him a hefty salary ($8.8 million this year) rather than break the bank with a signing bonus. Allen won’t be happy about it, however.
“If I play under the franchise tag, this will be my last year with the Chiefs,” Allen told NFL.com at the Pro Bowl.
– Ravens defensive end/linebacker Terrell Suggs. Suggs figures to be disgruntled as well. He was expecting the $8.8 million defensive end tender, and instead will get the $8 million tender of an outside linebacker. Seems foolish for the Ravens to get one of their best players upset over $800,000.
– Bengals offensive lineman Stacy Andrews ($7.5 million). A mild surprise, in that Justin Smith, last year’s franchise player, is now on the open market. Smith is coming off a two-sack season, but could make out in free agency since Allen and Suggs will both require two first-round draft picks to sign. Might be too rich for the Raiders blood.
– Cardinals linebacker Karlos Dansby. No impact for the Raiders, who have relatively inexpensive active linebackers in Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard.
– Eagles TE L.J. Smith. Colts tight end Dallas Clark could also get a one-year, $4.5 million tender. Zach Miller looked good enough that he may one day himself get a franchise tag.
– Panthers RT Jordan Gross. The Raiders need long-term solutions at both tackles, unless they’re convinced Paul McQuistan is the answer on the right side. Had Gross not been franchised, they probably would have at least placed a call.
– Tennessee DT Albert Haynesworth. Robert Gallery had an encouraging year as a left guard, but could do nothing with Haynesworth. Risky for the longterm because he produced in a contract year.
Green Bay hasn’t tipped its hand yet regarding defensive tackle Corey Williams, who would break the bank in light of Haynesworth’s tag.
Kiper call
For what it’s worth, longtime draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. was available by conference call Tuesday through ESPN and had a few thoughts regarding the Raiders.
Whether you like Kiper or not, his recall regarding virtually any prospect, no matter how anonymous, is remarkable. On his Web page, Kiper had the Raiders taking Arkansas running back Darren McFadden, but conceded the landscape may have changed with the signing of Justin Fargas.
“That’s the question. Fargas is a good back. You’ve got other guys in the mix as well,” Kiper said. “So you’ve got a lot of guys, the question is do you have a lot of average guys? Fargas proved to be better than average. I don’t think you necessarily have to take McFadden, and he could be gone anyway, depending on how the coin flip goes.”
Kiper said he rates Glenn Dorsey as the top defensive tackle in the draft, but said there are people who like USC’s Sedrick Ellis better.
“I could see Sedrick Ellis as a Raider,” Kiper said.
Kiper said McFadden’s problems with fumbling are an issue, but likes his overall skills set even if he is not the runner Adrian Peterson was last year.
Not everyone shares Kiper’s feeling about McFadden. The NFL Network’s Mike Mayock has Rashard Mendenhall of Illinois as his top back.
Kiper said the Raiders’ 19-61 record over the past five years may have its roots in the draft.
“I think it’s had a lot to do with it. You look back at it and say, `OK, how many of those guys actually became quality starters?,’ ” Kiper said. “I think you can always look at your football team, and if they’re lacking, they’re lacking because of the draft not being as beneficial as it should be.”
Aging wideouts available
If the Raiders wanted to go retro to the days when Jerry Rice and Tim Brown were on their last legs, Keyshawn Johnson wants to make a comeback and Muhsin Muhammad was released by the Chicago Bears.
With Jerry Porter scheduled to become a free agent, the Raiders are extraordinarily thin at wide receiver with Ronald Curry, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Jonathan Holland, Todd Watkins, Drisan James and Will Buchanon under contract.
While no wide receiver attending the NFL scouting combine is thought to be a No. 3 or 4 selection, there are a few targets worth considering if the Raiders did what they never do and move back in the draft.
Cal’s DeSean Jackson is the most explosive and a dangerous punt return specialist Larger targets include Oklahoma’s Malcolm Kelly (6-4, 218 pounds) and Indiana’s James Hardy (6-6, 220). Michigan’s Mario Manningham is also considered a potential first-round pick. All are underclassmen, so none were scouted during the college all-star circuit.
Kiper thinks Kelly could be the first receiver taken by the time the draft comes around, and also said he thinks Cal’s LaValle Hawkins could be an early second-round pick or even sneak into the first round.
Will be headed to the combine Wednesday and will file daily blogs from Indianapolis . . .
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February 19th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
1ST
February 19th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
DRAFT MCFADDEN????
February 19th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
The smartest thing the Raiders could do is trade down and pick up some more picks. Especially since they have no 3rd rounder this year. That and I wonder how Al feels about having to hand out another large contract to a top 5 pick after that whole Russell drama last year.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Yes most def get a DT in the 1st and WR in the 2nd unless we trade down then I say we get Kenny Phillips and a WR then DT
February 19th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
–”The Giants are not closing in on a conract for impending free agent FS Gibril Wilson.
These things can move quickly as the free agency period approaches, so there’s still a good chance the Giants make an offer shortly. The Eagles are thought to have interest in Wilson, and the Giants wouldn’t like that match.
Feb. 19 – 6:07 p.m. ET”–
I would love to see him in Oakland =)
February 19th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
well, cris, everyone wants to trade down. Miami does, St. Louis would we would AND Atlanta would. And only one or two teams maybe Dallas, or Chicago, want to trade up, so the trade down might not have that much value. Everyone is saying let’s trade say the #3 overall for both of Dallas No 1’s (23+28?), Marion Barber AND flozell Adams! Aint’ gonna happen.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
–”Reuben Droughns is due a $250,000 roster bonus on March 1.
He probably won’t get it. Droughns still has some short-yardage and special teams value, but the Giants are set with Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw as their 1-2. If they can’t hang onto free agent Derrick Ward, the Jints could go with Danny Ware or Kay-Jay Harris as a cheap third stringer.
Feb. 19 – 6:13 p.m. ET”–
If we let both Jordan and Rhodes go, Droughns would be a love match, he has showed what he could in this run scheme in Denver
February 19th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Who the Hell is Brandon Mendenhall????
Must be Rashard Mendehall cousin.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Rashard is a much better back than McFadden and niether is worth the 3rd or 4th pick in the first round
February 19th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Thanks Senor McDonald. And thanks in advance for daily updates from Indy.
Cris, if in the event the Raiders would draft Sedrick Ellis I find it hard to believe that any drama would ensue as per contract. Kiffin might not be the money man but he and Ellis are from the same godfather, Pete Carroll. Regardless of the money-grubbing 10%ers, a rapport could be established.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
we need defense. mcfad is a dream at this point to me. if we cant stop the run mcfad will never be on the field to show anything.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
I think this draft is the most imoprtant draft in years, being that when we drafted in other years the glaring weaknesses this team had trumped the DT and WR, OT, RB, SS, C, positions, i like the raiders to trade now that they resigned Justin Fargas. a late round center from georgia, fernando velasco. from watching georgia play this dude is a good center, but in the pros we know how things go. grove was good in college also. the late round picks are the picks al needs to pick the best football player, not the best athlete who ran track 4 years in a row, and played football for 2 years. id say trade out of the 3/4 pick and get as many picks as you can, dorsey and ellis are good, but paying a DT 5 million a year right off the bat, is crazy. drafting Dorsey or Ellis, Chris Long, Jake Long, RUN DMC, i think these guys can all play great football. Whose the player who makes the raiders a division winner.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
LMN, Reuben Droughns had a semi-stellar year in donkey-land. He has been Lamont Jordan’s clone for most of his career. We just went through the one incarnation, don’t see how a second coming of the same would be worth spending money on
February 19th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
dorsey or ellis would be an instant impact. after that we can go get JR some weapons.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
lamont needs to restructure his contract with us and be our new zach crocket.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
You mean Lamont-its-okay-i’ll-restructure-but-I’ll-also-damn-sure-cough-up-the-ball-at-the-goal-line-anyway Jordan?
February 19th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
1st round pick Ellis or JAKE LONG
2nd round pick CB-DOMINIQUE RODGERS-CROMARTIE if still on board or DT-Auburn Pat Sims
3rd round Safety-Notre dame Tom Zbikowski
The guys at nfldraftcountdown.com know their stuff the picks they predict for us were very close last year and this year they see our needs , heck they seem to be better than the guys working in our previous draft rooms.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
well if he wants to stay, thats the way it’ll have to be.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
I don’t think Cromartie will last that long bro. If he did, hell yes scoop him up, but I think he will go in the 1st round. Plus I would rather go DT(Trevor Laws) or SS(Kenny Phillips?) in the 2nd. I guess it all depends on how things play out. But Cromartie will be gone by the 2nd.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
i thought we had no 3rd pick?
February 19th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
We don’t have a 3rd pick…yet
February 19th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Oak-post 511 was priceless!!
February 19th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
i ask that same question about john clayton of espn.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
why in gods name would anyone suggest we take Cromartie?can he play safety?will he helb bolster our run def.?
February 19th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Did any of you see Sean Salisbury call John Clayton the Cryptkeeper from Tales From the Crypt? I felt sorry for Clayton, he looked like he might cry. Salisbury is an ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi7XtBv94pE
February 19th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
as far as Jordan is concerned,who the hell cares if he wants to stay.good riddence!!!!!
February 19th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Lefty
All I said was take the kid if he is still around in the 2nd. The only reason I said it is because he would be a complete steal in the 2nd round, he will be gone in the 1st. Personally I want DT Trevor Laws in the 2nd.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Dogg-Salisbury is an ass,but him and Clayton are buddies.they do a show on the radio together-NFL Saturday i believe.they always call each other names.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Dogg,i understand where you are coming from.you didn’t suggest it.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
As there seem to be no free agent safeties worth a damn except for an aged oft-injured Mike Doss, I hope someone scouts a decent sleeper pick in the late rounds.or 2nd round? I could see Thomas Decoud. People tend to leave him for the 50’s rather than the 30’s, but then again t’weren’t no one looking at Nnamdi in the 20’s either.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
let’s take Ellis in the 1st,Dorsey in the 2nd,Laws in the 4th and Mcfadden in the 5th.
February 19th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
sorry guys didn’t mean to get carried away.
February 19th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
I would rather have the DT problem solved by drafting Haynesworth and structuring his contract to include enough bonuses to keep him performing. I agree with Mose that drafting an undersized DT and paying him a huge salary probably doesn’t make a lot of sense. We’ll know more at the combine when we see the physical measurements and capabilities. We should still go with linemen overwhelmingly with our picks and free agents. Football is won in the trenches. That cliche is correct.
February 19th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Haynesworth was tagged today!
February 19th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Thanks for the update, Jerry. I look forward to your notes from the combine…
Good to see that the football fans are back posting up…maybe the moderator is doing his / her job in deleting all of the obscene crap…thank you whoever you may be…
Linemen, linemen, and more linemen…most of us are in agreement on that point, especially on the D side…Dorsey or Ellis, we really can’t go wrong with either…
Good point on our WR situation, Jerry. I see us answering that by selecting in the lower rounds, and maybe tossing a bone to some FA??? I would make it a SMALL BONE, however, LOADED with performance incentives…Muhammad would be worth taking a shot at, but again, only for the right price…Keyshawn–no thanks…we’re finally shedding ourselves of Porter, why would we replace that underachieving prima donna with an even bigger headcase??? He’s slower than Porter, and I could never see him, EVER, being a positive veteran influence…
February 19th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Super Bowls are won with shut down corners , if we had two shut down corners the rallys other teams made on us would never have occurred. Green Bay’s corners shut down WR’s all season and that gave their DLs and LBs time to reach the QB.
February 19th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
what good does drafting Mcfadden do for helping the Raider fix thier most glaring problem over the last 5 years.. and thats stopping the run.. we dont need mcfadden.. we have 3 backs on this roster who have rushed for over 100 yards more then once.. and even if 2 of them are gone,, we still have Bush who was a bigger prospect then Mcfadden WITHOUT the fumbling issue… we need to fix this Dline.. and stop the run.. 10 different backs ran for over 100 yards on the raiders.. THAT is the biggest problem that needs to be fixed.. and Mcfadden CANT help fix that problem…
February 19th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
The Raiders will select Calaias Campbell with their first pick.
February 19th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
ChargersChoke
“Super Bowls are won with shut down corners”
Not true. NY Giants have ordinary corners and yet stuffed Brady’s air game with having a devastating rush from their D line. Championships are won in the trenches.
If the S&B is to return to greatness, it needs to have top of the line players in the trenches. The D line is of more importance IMO than the O line. Defense wins games.
February 19th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
ChargerChoke…
sorry, but it’s the other way around, it was GB’s D-line that gave the Corners to shutdown their assignments
February 19th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Post # 39 & 40…
D-lines both places…
A defense are build around the D-line, the O are build around the O-Line
February 19th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
M…
Okay Droughns wasn’t stellar, but he was good, 1200 in one season, thats okay, the thing about him was he had great hands too, something Fargas can’t brag about =)
February 19th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
anyone get to see Keyshawn host Rome is burning,… just thought I would throw that out there…
February 19th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
mcfadden will be average at best. I can drive a tank through the holes that were there for him.
February 19th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
And thats why Mayock is better than Kiper! Proof and point – Kiper really thinks McFadden will be picked before its the Raiders turn. Do you really think Miami (Ronnie Brown and the strict Tuna as GM), STL (already got a franchise back), or ATL (got way too many problems to worry about another problem child) will pick McFadden? You’ve got to be nearly stupid to think so. So I guess thats what Kiper is: Stupid. If the shoe fits wear it.
February 19th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Mayock looks at McFadden and immediately sees his faults: all speed, no power, no make you miss. And Kiper is still lookin’ at freakin highlights of hog Olinemen making gaping holes. Congrats ESPN and thats why they’ll always be known around these parts as BSPN.
February 19th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Bedtime! See ya…
February 19th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Thanks for the update Jerry! No matter how insignificant the news or short the read, we use your blog to feed our Raider news addiction.
February 19th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
no way we take mcfaddden. our scheme can make 3rd and 4th rounders look good… like denver has been doing. we have a “1st rounder”, early 2nd rounder to be generous, in michael bush.
its too hard to trade down, not many great picks this year and rarely does a team do it.. isnt ellis injury prone? not sure bout that
February 19th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
…and you have to pay for most of the crap that Mel Kiper spews. Go figure.
February 19th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Mel rules.
February 19th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
so does his hair
February 19th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Dakota -
see post #527 from last blog
February 19th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Hey, good to hear you are going to Indy Jerry, good luck.
February 19th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Trade down for more picks but the players we draft have not as a whole lived up to our position in the draft. We need some WR big time. A free agent is a must if we dont trade down for a WR. If we get Defense to which we REALLY need. I saw EVERY phreakin game this year and we suck on defense. We let down time and again. No tackling in the secondary, linebackers out of place SOMETIMES I like them as a Unit…but the line play was pretty close to phreggin O-Lay!!!!!!!!!!!! We are hurting on all fronts we must give Kiff Weapons…Grudy had it and Calli took that same talent to the bowl. We need more Talent PERIOD
February 19th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Dakota
I just traded Kobe to a Lakers fan for LeBron, I think I ripped him off since I don´t have to worry about his finger anymore, still I kind of hesitated, good move uh?.
February 19th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Mistabrown Says:
February 19th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
OakGlenn, you are just plain sad with your head in the sand. Did you say the same thing when we signed Sapp or Burgess, Woodson, Nnamdi? We have high draft picks on that side of the ball you’re embarrassing yourself with this dribble man.
# Oakglenn Says:
February 19th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Linds, let’s say we draft Dorsey or Sedrick Ellis, and get the guy I like Bobbie Williams as a rookie strong safety. The defense would improve and everyone would give the credit to Kiffin and Dorsey. So, it’s a no win battle.
wow Brown. As Lefty would say, priceless. One thing we can all agree on here on this blog, is our run defense needs to seriously improve. My question was, what have we done to improve the run D????
Sapp has always been considered a pass rushing defensive tackle not a run defending DT. His own web site and the vanity plates on his car say “QB Killa”. Need I say more????
On this site half a billion times bloggers have railed on how Burgess is a good pass rusher but a major liablity against the run.
Both Nnamdi and Charles Woodson, while good run defenders are known over whelmingly for their man coverage pass defense, both of which they excell at. Brown do you the difference between the run and the pass???
February 19th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Hey Oakglenn
I see you´re taking some heat regarding Ryan…
February 19th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Well, looks like nobody wants to talk to me and I ran out of sporting websites to read so….I´ll see you later folks.
February 19th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Bob, once again it’s like, I don’t care who the defensive coordinator is. If Ryan is gone, we better have someone come in better. Last time I looked, Bud Carson and Jim Johnson of Philly were busy. Someone mentioned Bresnahan. Well, he’s looking for his third job in five years. What the eff does that tell ya???
College guys, overwhelmingly do not excel coming straight into the pro ranks. Just ask Nick Saban and Bob Petrino. So who are we gonna bring in here on short notice if we get rid of Ryan???? Oh right. Monte Kiffin. I forgot.
The pass defense played surprisingly well all year, in spite of a very lackluster pass rush. Just ask Brett Farve and Peyton Manning. They didn’t exactly light us up. We’ve put high draft choices there, and for the most part they’ve played fairly well.
The run defense has been terrible. We all agree on that!! What have we done recently to improve it??? No one has answered that question yet and I’ve been asking it for two effing months!! Let me answer it for everyone: We CUT Danny Clark our best run defender. Overwhelmingly on this site, bloggers have said we need two awesome DT’s, a run stuffing MLB, and a run support hard hitting strong safety. I agree!! With those glaring needs, how can you blame everything on the DC?? And if the DC is wholly to blame, who are you gonna bring in that’s better????? JMHO.
February 19th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Stretch is right on post #11 we need defense so Ryan can turn that high pick into a mediocre NFL player.
Dakota, DMAC’s fumbling problems can be easily corrected.
ChargersChoke, shut down corners dont do you any good if the QB has 5 seconds to find a receiver. Did you start watching football yesterday ?
February 19th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Yeah OakGlenn is right if you change DC you better find somebody better!
Well, how hard would it be to find a DC that took you from the 31st ranked run def ?
Probably not very hard at all.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Pat Kirwan speculates where some WR’s will go in the order of the draft.
I just wish we had a third round pick, we gave up our third for Henderson, I hope he works out in our system.
The possible free Agents at WR our not bad or even great, we will see when free Agency starts who is left and if they will work in our system.
I believe we will draft a WR in the later rounds if we don’t grab a WR free agent.
Some bloggers have their favorites, I just want someone to be able to catch the ball.
We had to many drops last year, especially when we passed far less than 20 other teams.
The draft boards are starting to change, due to our signing of Fargas.
When the combine is over that’s when you know what direction team needs will be filled, what team interviews who and of course free Agency will be completed after the combine.
Is there a Wes Welker out there? Jordy Nelson is the next best thing, maybe?
Potential second-round group
» List of juniors declaring early
Andre Caldwell, Florida: Smooth route runner, like many of the University of Florida receivers before him. His 185 receptions in college and his work at the Senior Bowl make him a solid selection, but there are a number of free-agent receivers who do about the same type of work.
Limas Sweed. Texas: A wrist injury has teams divided on this big receiver. He did have 124 receptions in college and has made big plays in big games.
Devin Thomas, Michigan State: A junior college transfer (JUCO) with one year of solid production. He needs to tear up the 40 time this weekend to stay in this group. His lack of college production may prevent him from making group one.
Potential third-round group
Donnie Avery, Houston; Big production in college with over 200 receptions, but not a great week at the Senior Bowl. He has kick-return ability and that makes the third round the right spot if he runs well at the combine.
Earl Bennett, Vanderbilt: In the last two years he grabbed 161 balls and scored 15 times. One receivers coach I spoke with who is tough on route running told me he likes this kid.
Lavelle Hawkins, Cal: Liked this guy at the Senior Bowl. He plays fast and looks like an excellent slot-receiver candidate.
Jordy Nelson, Kansas: Rumors are that Nelson will run well in Indianapolis. If he ever winds up at a team like the Colts he will put up big numbers as a complementary receiver.
Eddie Royal, Virginia Tech: His speed jumps out at you. He can get behind defenders. Another young player who was helped by working at the Senior Bowl.
Finally, teams like Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Washington and Chicago may need a big wide receiver. Dallas, Minnesota, Tennessee, and Jacksonville may desire a speed receiver. A team like Philadelphia may need someone to put it over the top. There should be little problem satisfying a team need at receiver this offseason.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
OakGlenn, stand by your man his record speaks for itself.
By week 6 you probably wont show your face on this blog.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
OakGlenn, you defending Ryans defense by pointing out the offense’s shortfalls is pure garbage. You know the situation mr football genius..
Kiffin inherited the worst offense I ever saw from Shell/Walsh and got it pointed in the right direction. It wasnt explosive but we moved the chains and scored some points.
Ryan had 3 years under his belt with 11 returning starters and shit allover himself and here you are to wipe his ass.
Its going to be a long offseason I hope you buckle up when the season starts. If Ryans defense isnt layin the wood your going to hear it 24/.
TWENTY FOUR SEVEN!
February 19th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
I don’t know Brown. Morrison, routt, Fabian, Howard, Asomugha and Jay Richardson, don’t seem like complete busts to me. He’s developed those guys fairly well.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Are you serious ?
Hahahahaha
Oak, they are not the BUSTS…RYAN is the bust, at some point you need to wakeup man!
# Oakglenn Says:
February 19th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
I don’t know Brown. Morrison, routt, Fabian, Howard, Asomugha and Jay Richardson, don’t seem like complete busts to me. He’s developed those guys fairly well.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Oak, you are coming apart at the seams.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Dude in your quote #61,
Mistabrown Says:
February 19th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Stretch is right on post #11 we need defense so Ryan can turn that high pick into a mediocre NFL player.
Those guys seem like solid players to me. You can’t have it both ways. Has he developed these players or not. You are a joke. If they perform. They were stars to begin with. If they fail, it’s Ryans fault.
That’s what my other point is. You’ve never backed anything up. all you do is bitch. dude, you can’t have it both ways. So according to Brown, we have great run defenders, who Ryan can’t coach. That’s a joke dude.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Brown you are a total joke. You don’t know at all what your talking about. At all. You never have. It’s just easy to bitch. That’s what the ignorant fan does. Bitch.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
I didnt say that. You cant stuff words in my mouth I will spit, ok ?
You’re talking about individuals Im talking about a collective defense, you understand the difference right ? Our collective defense is offensive. They dont stop anybody consistently and they breakdown when the game is on the line.
They dont tackle well, they dont hold their gaps, they dont pressure the QB. Our LB’s are the ones that get INT’s not our corners. I cant ever recall a situation like that!
I have no idea what you’re watching Oak. Either your a relative of RR or your work for the Raiders because nobody except you and BHP and a few brainless followers of you are supporting this guy.
I’m not disrespecting you here Oak and your entitled to your opinion like everybody else but we are going disagree &have this discussion until..
A- RR is fired
or
B- Our defense plays up to its capabilities.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Oak,
I don’t know what Im talking about ?
You are in the minority here. Ive never even seen a media person have Ryans back. Our stat sheet looks like a plate of diarrhea. You tell me what I don’t know!
We cant get statistically any worse then we are and yet you say if we go in a different direction it better work!
Or what ???? We go from 31 to 32 ?
You cannot just say I dont know what Im talking about when everything points to you not having a clue.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
While you guys are on the edges of your seats waiting for Jerrys blog from Indy, I will be whacking off to porn.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Dogg, that was some funny shite (#527).
February 19th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
If Jerry made a pole asking should Rob Ryan stay or go I bet it would 95% to boot him on this blog.
Oak you are the 5%
Jerry, make a pole!
February 19th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
You can’t have it both ways. Thanks for saying that tho. I’m not mad at ya, I just don’t understand your argument. the collective is made up of individuals. When I see our defense I see us losing 80% of individual battles. Not a beaten scheme. That’s what I see. Especially up front. The problem is you’re arguing both ways. And that was my post up above. Next Year If the defense performs very well, it’s either the new players, or Kiffin has a hand in it, or the personnel dept came thru, Huff finally developed, it’s everything BUT the DC.
Basically, Brown, take a stand here. Say you think these defensive players are exceptional players. Tell me you think Sands, Burgess, Warren, Brayton, Richardson are all pro bowl talents that Ryan can’t motivate and game plan with. Is that what you think??
February 19th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
It’s probably gay porn isn’t it beach.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Oakglenn,…hard to believe,..I pop in here after a few months…your sorry asss is still in here posting meaningless drivel,…nothing else to do,..nowhere else to go…I know you must be contemplating suicide,..just do it.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Oak dont try and change the subject with gay porn.
You want me to take a stand? I have done that since the season ended. If the DEf plays well I will give RR the credit the same as I give him the blame right now. You can print that save it and throw it back in my face next December.
Burgess was in the pro bowl 2 years ago? Im saying Ryan had something to work with and collectively failed. Obviously Brayton for example is trash but he was a 1st round pick I believe. Put him on NE or NYG and he might be a respectable NFL player but under RR he is bile.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Bob,
Nice move trading Kobe for LBJ, but I don’t get into fantasy b-ball. In real life I would have a hard time trading Kobe for James, but I would pull the trigger just because of the age difference and hope that James developed an more consistent jumper and some clutchness (is that a word?).
Mista, are you so chippy tonight because Utah beat the Warriors?
February 19th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Brown when you refuse to separate an offense from a defense, it shows you have a lack of understanding. When an offense goes out an scores TD’s, defenses get fired up. When they go three and out, cough it up, blow scoring chances, fumble on the opposing goal line, defenses get demoralized. It happens. You can’t separate an offense from a defense. If our offense was scoring 35 points a game and we had the same record, yeah, it’s the defense. If the defense is giving up a forty spot per game, yeah, it’s the defense, if you lose 12-10 and 13-9 is it the defense??
February 19th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Dakota
Did the tax man break you?
How much do you owe.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
There you go again shoving words in mouth.
When our offense scored a TD in the 4th quarter and gave us a lead our defense as you say got fired up and…..oh they gave up a TD or a field goal and gave the lead right back….how many times Oak?
6 times out of 16 games?
Oak, we gonna do this for a couple hours cause i’ll go get myself a bottle of wine.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Dakota, thats twice in 2 weeks.
I like to watch the game on DV-R to FF through commercials and halftime. So Im here bustin OakGlenn in the chops and you just told me the outcome of another game?
February 19th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Brown
Wine!!!!
Here let me hand to you through my screen, a bottle of rum.
That will make the next two hours real happy.!!
February 19th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Naw rum will give me a belly ache.
thanks tho
February 19th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Dell,
They got me real good…I guess that is a good thing, but when you have to pay THE MAN it sure hurts more than paying regular bills.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Dakota, no problem its not your fault its Oakglenns.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Mista,
NOTICE: Spoiler ahead if you are a Lakers fan!
If it makes you feel better the Lakers are up 73-37 at halftime…
February 19th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Dakota
Final word on the “MAN”
Remember they can’t tax wealth only income, invest wisely.
I apologize to all, I’m off topic, please only 20 lashes this time.
I want to adhere to the rules, so forgive me.
What’s the TOPIC again?
Brown sorry about your belly.
Oops, twenty more lashes, I’m doomed.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Brown bust it out!! Wine, booze, whatevr ya got. Look at the Super Bowl! Giants went up, New England drove down the field and scored on what should have been the final drive, New York came back and drove the entire field in 3 minutes to WIN THE SUPER BOWL!!! And nobody is saying Bellichik and Spagnuolo should get axed. Defenses get tired. It happened to both teams in the freaking Super Bowl!!!
Brown my deal is with a bit more offense, and we saw that later in the year, these games shouldn’t come down to a final drive. Fans remember many years ago before the rules were liberalized to favor scoring. They think the defense should just stuff the O in the end. Recently that doesn’t really work because of the rule changes favoring offense. See the most recent Super Bowl. And those were two good defenses.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
The best defense is a good offense….
DRAFT MCFADDEN???
February 19th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Glenn, Brown
I got my rum and coke, let’s go.
This is going to be fun.
I may have to leave soon, so hurry up, please.
Darn off topic again, sheeesh.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Oak
NE defense is old and Bellicheat wore them out going for the undefeated season. If they had some rest in week 16 they might have broke Eli.
Nobody is saying Bellicheat should get axed but he isnt the DC is he ? Having said that Goodell should suspend Bellisneak for all of 2008.
Next..
February 19th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Brown and I are both a little tired of this subject. We’ve been arguing about this since last November, I think.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
You’re right Dean Pees is the DC in NE, I’m just making fun of ‘em.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Dell,
rum and coke, rum and coke….gosh, I would kill for a rum and coke right now….KILL I TELL YOU! Friggin acid reflux disease! I can’t drink for 30 days!
Captain and coke Dell, or what is your poison?
February 19th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Dakota
Capt Morgan is very good.
I been drinking within moderation the Bacardi Limon, real smooth and good on the rocks.
Mai Tai’s, Long Island Ice tea, very good.
Bacardi has it’s purpose, yeah, the sound of the pour crackling on the ice.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Shoot Dell, I just drooled on the keyboard, pavlovian response I guess.
What does moderation mean? Is that Arabic or something?
February 19th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Glenn
IF you get a chance, post #63 is very brilliant,
If you have any thoughts, let me know.
I’m going to watch American Idol.
Take care g-men
February 19th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Dakota
Caught your last post, I guess my moderation is not working.
Hey, how did Bibby look so far in the game, Sacto needed the cap room.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Bibby seems to have turned into a slow white guy that can’t shoot.
He is 1-5 from the field with two turnovers and 2 assists.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Later guys.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Dont play the race card
February 19th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Dell thank you for posting that (#63) I have been meaning to read it but got sidetracked.
I’ll quickly add a couple things to #63
Andre Caldwell and the Oakland Raiders may have a future together. I kind of shudder when I think of Fla receivers cause sooooo many have not panned out in the pros. That was under Spurrier and not Urban Meyer so, Caldwell easily could be taken by Oakland in the 2nd round. We may want to research him fully.
Devin Thomas is a real good prospect. JUCO transfer, came outta nowhere to have like 75 catches. Good sized guy 6′2″, 215, 4.45. what’s not to like here??
Very quickly again, I am a huge Lavelle Hawkins guy. Probably more so than Desean Jackson. Jackson to me is just a faster, flashier, Johnnie lee Higgins. I think when he sees pro defenders coming at him, Desean won’t be quite the same player. Hawkins is a real smooth guy. I just like Lavelle.
Jordy Nelson I’ve talked about a lot. He’s gonna be a solid pro. He’s big, he’s faster than he looks, and he just catches everything that;s thrown his way. runs excellent routes, 2nd or 3rd team All-American, this guy is a standout.
Earl Bennet is absolutely solid. 6′ 200, solid production, dropped off a bit this year but he didn’t have Jay Cutler throwing to him there at Vandy. Played against excellent competition and always produced.
The other guys are just speeeeeeed burners. Don’t knwo that much about ‘em. All this is JMHO.
February 19th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Danny Amendola from Texas Tech 4.48
Harry Douglas form Louisville 4.37
Those 2 dudes are really flying under the radar.
Amondola reminds me of Welker
Douglas reminds me of Issac Bruce
We could get either 1 on day 2! What do you think Oak?
February 19th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
lakers
February 19th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Mavs KKK Get it right!!!
February 19th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
you yanks are a bunch of amature’s this blog has become a poorly scripted under rehearsed under paid soap opera and we hate those across the pond.
Long live soccer, someone please give me a mirror!
good bye, your all done, its over
February 20th, 2008 at 5:16 am
Kenny Phillips has to be acquired.. Trade down and get more picks!!! Phillips is a must!!!!! HE is a beast!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ve wanted this gut ever since I saw him last year at the U
February 20th, 2008 at 5:47 am
WOULDNT it make sense for oakland to challenge the chiefs on jared allen? the plan is simple you find a player that u can use regardless,if kc tags allen then it will behove al davis to then make a tuff offer on that player. kc wants to time to asses market on this player , a player they dont want to lose!namely to oakland, al then makes a fast & tuff to match offer ! over market , kc then is forced into a “any answer is wrong ” situation! they match oakland they pay more then they want to! they dont match then they lose him to arch rival raiders!
kc will def match offer at all costs! tying up time & more cap space then they want~~
February 20th, 2008 at 5:54 am
C’mon fellas, what’s with all the razzing of OakGlenn? He’s written, time and again, with which I agree, that it doesn’t matter to him who the defensive coordinator is. RR might be of no great shakes, but he is here for another season. Fill some of the glaring needs at DT, SS and MLB (as in basball if you’re solid up the middle the periphery will shine), get the horses and then see how it plays out.
Yes, statistically the Raider D has been awful under Ryan. They also, until last year had been up against it with regards to the offense offering no help whatsoever. Players get demoralized, worn down.
I have seen times when RR was obviously overmatched by the opposing OC. I have also seen when the players on the field have botched assignments and allowed someone to take it to the house on what should’ve been a no-gainer.
Hell, if the offense improves by a measly field goal, and the defense improves by the same amount we’re talking 8-8. Learning how to win after the dismal past few years is a process. Enjoy the process, it is to get better.
February 20th, 2008 at 5:59 am
Interesting idea Davis70. The Chiefs have already lacerated their internal organs by overpaying a worn down LJ.
February 20th, 2008 at 6:15 am
Many say trade down for more picks, why? Currently we can’t make a good selection with our first round picks, how is more picks going to help. Until they find a better pro scouting evaluation system it won’t make any difference. Look at our drafts. Also, if Al doesn’t allow Kiffin to select his own players in the draft the awful player selection will continue without any improvement. Will Al let Kiffin make the call on draft day? That is the question. Players with potential is our motto on draft day and it hasn’t worked.
February 20th, 2008 at 6:28 am
Jake, as others have pointed out, league-wide there is only about a 40% chance that anyone’s draft picks will work out. Having more choices only ups the odds, but personally I would be hard put pass up a DT with it being such a need for the Silver and Black.
February 20th, 2008 at 6:42 am
I am still amazed at the number of posts calling for Oakland to draft McFadden, and now pursue Reuben Droughns.What?! First, the 2nd to last positition that neesa to be addresses is RB with Fargas, Bush, and probably either Jordan or Rhodes we are pretty solid at RB.We definitely shouldn’t waste a 1st rd pick on any RB with needs as glaring as DT,DE,WR. And we’ve again got guys coming out of the woodwork talking about drafting more CB’s? WTF?! In the last 5 years I can think of no other position the Raiders have spent more draft picks on than CB. I can go along with taking a S but I think we can stop spending high draft picks on CB’s for awhile with Nnamdi,Routt,and Washington we are pretty set. And signing Droughns would be a waste of money.He’s another one of these Bronco guys that can’t get it done outside of Denver.I am absolutely convinced that it is 100% Shanahan’s system making these guys successful. when they decide they want to get paid, Shanahan lets them leave and get their big money from somebody else. Inevitably they end up on another team that thinks they’ve landed the 2nd coming of Barry Sanders and they are unable to produce anywhere near what they did with the Broncos. This includes Clinton Portis,once considered the best RB in the NFL, who hasn’t done much in Washington to earn his gigantic salary.Denver definitely got the best of that deal in Champ Bailey.It is simple logic,nobody can pick a Walter Payton/Emmett Smith with every single RB they sign,every rb.Which what Shanahan appeared to have done for a long time,every rb that stepped into the line-up in Denver was a 1000 yd rusher.From Terrell Davis on. Every guy. Just not possible for anybody to be that saavy,and Shanahan is pretty good.But he knows he can plug anybody in and they will be successful, thats why guys like Droughns, who are in reality mediocre, are no longer on his roster. He doesn’t need them They need him and his system. Droughns has been a disappointment since he left Denver and I see no reason to bring him to Oakland.In reality Droughns is a 2nd stringer outside of the Denver offense.I even have my doubts as to how successful Terrell Davis would’ve been had he left Denver and payed elsewhere.My point is just say no to former Bronco RB’s.
February 20th, 2008 at 6:55 am
Well put, Joe Raider.
February 20th, 2008 at 7:17 am
Joe don’t know diddly.
February 20th, 2008 at 7:22 am
Good morning Dakota, how’s life in the Badlands?
February 20th, 2008 at 7:43 am
Joe you should have been here before Fargas was resigned it was McFadden mania. Denver is parting ways with Travis Henry.
Dakota, wouldn’t you love to see DMAC in donkey gear twice a year ? Javon Walker may get released too.
February 20th, 2008 at 7:47 am
DAVIS70, if we make an offer for Allen & the Cheifs dont match we owe them 2 no 1 picks, noway!
February 20th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Your a DUMB Raider fan IF:
You think McFadden will be a Raider
You think the Raider won’t trade out of the pick
You think the Raiders are going to draft a DT and pay big money to him..see Gerard Warren
You think they’re going to draft Jake Long…
Either they grab Howie Jr., because he can move around on the line, we don’t need any 6′1, 6′2 DT’s, sorry
Zbikowski as a Raider= DON’T MAKE ME FREAKIN LAUGH..just another “great white hype”
The impact player we need is at the safety spot with the kid Phillips, so trade down hopefully they will do that, get an additional 1st round pick and get a receiver in late first, draft OL second, wait on a DT…he will come, but not in the first round of the draft
February 20th, 2008 at 7:51 am
Gee Eric, had a bit of caffeine this morning have we?
Incidentally… Your a DUMB should read, You’re, as in you are…
February 20th, 2008 at 7:55 am
Eris Farrell knows exactly how the draft will unfold. In his crystal ball he sees who Miami & St Louis draft, he sees who trades up or down and knows what the compensation will be.
Wow, can you tell me the lotto #’s too Im a little broke this week..
February 20th, 2008 at 7:56 am
Good one M, I hate when people misuse your and you’re…lol.
February 20th, 2008 at 7:58 am
Franchising Asomugha is a no brainer but could the guaranteed monies be at issue with Asomugha and the Raiders getting a long term contract done?. Remember AD, protect the Raiders first and do not give him the unreasonable.
C. Long, Ellis or Dorsey in the 1st round if we do not pick up a free agent. If we get a free agent DT manster, then draft J. Long for RT and BRANDON ALLEN, the guard that can play LT from the Cavaliers of Virginia in the 2nd round. Get Bernard Berrian the WR free agent from the Bears and Jordy Nelson (WR)in the 4th round if he is still there.
February 20th, 2008 at 7:58 am
How come I use my real name and you all use little aliases? What are you scared of?
February 20th, 2008 at 8:00 am
M,
The Badlands are great. I got up at 4 a.m. and went scavenging for T-rex meat. I stumbled into a Precambrian cave that was once the home to Sioux Warrior cavemen…I found their peyote.
Good times my man, good times.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:04 am
M, you truly are a DUMB Raider fan if you think that…
February 20th, 2008 at 8:04 am
How do we know that is your real name Eric? I could come on this site and say that my name is Richford Stanley III, and no one would know the difference. Please give us your hometown, address, phone number and e-mail address so that we can verify your identity.
Notice, I used the proper possessive form of your.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:05 am
Dakota S. Thompson starring in “Where the Buffalo Roam”. Arriving soon at a Kum & Go near you.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:07 am
Cool, I have to wait for the Nation to wake up before I can be called an idiot for the day.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:08 am
Richford? HAHA, cool name, bro!
February 20th, 2008 at 8:10 am
Quit using my name!!
February 20th, 2008 at 8:11 am
I had an employee with the last name Farrell, he was found with child pornography, is that your dad or uncle?
Just wondering.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:13 am
Good morning RaiderDell.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:16 am
M
Good morning.
I’m ready to embark on another day of protecting people’s assets.
My job will create less income and less taxation for others to paythe “MAN”
This is why America is great. I live for these moments.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:16 am
Everyone, take cover, I think the U.S. Navy is going to try and shoot down a satellite today. I hope they shoot down the BSPN satellite on accident.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:16 am
Dakota
Knows about the “MAN”
February 20th, 2008 at 8:18 am
THE MAN can now pay for 1/8th of an inch of interstate reconstruction after collecting almost 1/4 of my income! F-THE MAN!
February 20th, 2008 at 8:19 am
Dakota
Let’s name that section after you, what do you think?
February 20th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Dell,
In the immortal words of Peter Gibbons in Office Space…fuk N’ A!
February 20th, 2008 at 8:22 am
OHHH…maybe I should come down to that job of yours, Raider Dell, and beat the living “S..T” out of you for even saying some B.S like that, moron..you obviously aren’t from Oakland or you wouldn’t have said some gay s..t like you just did
February 20th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Dell,
You must have struck a cord with #134…was that too close to home Mr. Farrell?
February 20th, 2008 at 8:26 am
M and Dakota
I’ll catch you later, work has to get done.
I don’t know Farrell, but M you are not dumb.
Also what will a safety do to stop the run, (awaiting a
applause) Eric please, when the Raiders have the class Football 101 for women, please sign up!!!
Your comments below, you my friend need help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The impact player we need is at the safety spot with the kid Phillips, so trade down hopefully they will do that, get an additional 1st round pick and get a receiver in late first, draft OL second, wait on a DT…he will come, but not in the first round of the draft
February 20th, 2008 at 8:28 am
I better go do some work so I can pay THE MAN.
Come on Jerry, give us something to sink our teeth into.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:28 am
Eric
I’m so scared, help me oh great one, I have hurt his feelings.
Another internet tough guy, grab some brains on your way down.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:31 am
That’s the problem with computers, people…folks get to sit behind their little screens and throw out accusations against someone they wouldn’t dare say to their face…classless, Raider Dell..hope for you I never find out who you truly are…
February 20th, 2008 at 8:32 am
We need to trade to Dallas and get:
#1,CB-Cromartie
#1,DT-Balmer
#2,OT-Baker
We need to get WR- Berrian and WR-Devery Henderson in Free agency. Let Asomugha go and Routt start. With Cromartie and Washington having to battle for the #2 spot.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:33 am
Back to football, ok?
February 20th, 2008 at 8:37 am
Eric
Here is your comment:
Eric Farrell Says:
February 20th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Your a DUMB Raider fan IF:
You think McFadden will be a Raider
You think the Raider won’t trade out of the pick
You think the Raiders are going to draft a DT and pay big money to him..see Gerard Warren
You think they’re going to draft Jake Long…
Either they grab Howie Jr., because he can move around on the line, we don’t need any 6′1, 6′2 DT’s, sorry
Eric and then you say this:
Eric Farrell Says:
February 20th, 2008 at 8:31 am
That’s the problem with computers, people…folks get to sit behind their little screens and throw out accusations against someone they wouldn’t dare say to their face…classless, Raider Dell..
So let me understand you can sit behind your screen and call some bloggers here dumb, yet you don’t like my post regarding you and accusations that I said.
Eric, I guess you want it both ways, ther lies the problem.
Later tough guy.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:38 am
Eric,
Raider Dell’s real name is Al Davis and he can be found at 1220 Harbor BayParkway, Alameda, CA 94502.
Go kick his @ss.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:42 am
how low of a person threatens someone else behind there little screen.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:43 am
You mean “their” little screen?
February 20th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Chris,
That would be a great draft, but I would rather keep Nnamdi and draft a WR or SS with one of those picks over Cromartie.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Interesting thought in post #110 , DAVIS70.I would rather pay a proven star , than top-5 money to a rookie , and stress-out a rival to boot!Who’s OT , or DT can we steal?How many more years will we be able to afford signing so high?Year after year top-dollars , 1 probowl alternate?Giving up 2 #1 picks means we have to draft smarter and get value , like other teams do. I know some will howl , but hey , I’m on my first beer , howl away:)
February 20th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Dakota , I always pay attention to posts that are literate , punctuated correctly , by people who can spell.Thank you.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:50 am
ok “their”. like it really mattered
February 20th, 2008 at 8:51 am
In the history of free agency has there ever been a team that signed another team’s franchised player? Just curious. I know some teams have made offers to transition players, forcing the other team to either let the player go or match the offer, but I can’t recall a team actually signing a franchised player and giving up two first round picks. Anyone know better?
February 20th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Just kidding stretch, I cant hardy spel to good neither most tihmes.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:54 am
Dude, read between the freakin lines…I’m on here with my real name, and there’s not a DAMN thing I said that I wouldn’t say to anyone..you smart alecky folks kill me, like you’re right and I’m wrong..please, you have no more weight in here than I do, and what the hell is a “Raider Dell” anyway? If you believe that the Raiders will draft a RB, in the top 5, you are DUMB. DUMB if you think they’re going to sit on their laurels and pick one player when they have multiple holes to fill, go look at the depth chart and you tell me where the help is really needed. DUMB if you think a OL in the top five…how does a safety help stop the run? Oh well, I guess we can just put STUEY back there again and watch him chase down every back in the league. Moving Huff to FS isn’t going to solve that issue. We have DL and DT right now, Kelly and Warren come to mind. Whether you like them or not, we have them. You’re going to draft a DT top 5, and what rotate him with Warren, Kelly? No, I think not. Why draft in a sopt you already have some moderate depth in? Oh, let’s draft a RB top 5 so we can have Fargas, Bush, Rhodes, and Jordan on the roster. ??? Who gives a s..t if one of the guys gets cut later, you still have too many players at one position. Name our FS…who is it? And yo, I don’t need you to repost what I say, like I’m forgetting or something..Your no “Raider Dell”, your a “Raider Dud”..never played football in your life
February 20th, 2008 at 8:56 am
good point. a RB in the 1st would set us back even longer
February 20th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Eric, je m’apologie a vous. Vous etes juste. Je suis un tellement fou. La verdad, estoy el fanatico tontissimo del Nacion entero. Io no pono pensare buono. Ich bin ein Scheissekopf. Forlat mig for allting. Nao sei nada sobre futebol.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:59 am
I can’t believe that so many people are going on about WR. Especially, a deep threat WR in the 2nd round.
Nooooooooooooooooooooo.
Have folks forgotten who plays OLT on this team?
Barry Sieve.
Anyone that feels comfortable with Sieve protecting Russell, please raise their hand?
Anyone that thinks we can get a decent OLT under FA, please raise their hand?
A deep threat wideout will be useless if Russell does not have time to throw.
And, in case anyone did not notice, Raider pass-pro was again amongst the worst in the NFL (only San Francisco and Pittsburgh gave up sacks at a faster rate last year.)
February 20th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Oakglenn & Mistabrown, caught your debate played out on previous posts from last night and thats what can make blogs fun isnt it?
I want to say(but cant say 100% for sure. Can anyone verify or refute?) I remember at the start of last season Rob Ryan claiming on video his defense was going to be number one. Rob Ryan, or one of his fans on this blog, care to explain to me what happened?
SoulPatrol2, Davis70, Mistabrown, and others I agree with you. Good Defensive coordinators get the best out of their players, bad defensive coordinators do not. Good Defensive Coordinators make it happen, bad defensive coordinators make excuses.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:04 am
Kaufman26, good morning, I have not noticed any FA LT’s worth much either. Florida Pete has gone on about a back-up for NE, but…
as for the Michigan kid, seems slow-footed, not worth a high pick.
Any suggestions?
February 20th, 2008 at 9:05 am
oh yeah.. don’t make a OLT pick Jake Long, though.
Anyone watched the tapes on him?
Guy looks as athletic as a fire-hydrant.
If he proves to be a bona-fide OLT in the NFL, then I’m a frenchman.
If we take OLT in the first, we need to look at Ryan Clady or Chris Williams – guys that are good atheletes.
If we go DT in the first round, we must get OLT in the second (and vice-a-versa.)
Games are won and lost in the trenches.
Wideouts and safeties are luxuries that will have to be secured via FA, 2nd day picks etc.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Good morning, M… we obviously think alike about Jake Long.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:08 am
#162…pass it to your mother.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:10 am
I was wondering this morning, perhaps Dakota would know ’cause he’s a McFan, who was blocking for Darren and Felix that they could run Hog wild? Any prospects there?
February 20th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Sorry Eric, I’m too dumb to catch the drift of that last post.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Kenny Phillips needs to be acquired!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE
February 20th, 2008 at 9:16 am
I seriously doubt we pick up Mcfadden. We just signed Fargas and Bush is still a possible star. I almost promise we’ll grab OL/DL. By the way, to those that keep saying trade down, trade down. It’s not that easy, someone else has to be willing to trade with you. The trend is that teams don’t want to spend so much money on a high pick unless there is someone they feel is guaranteed to be a star and fits their needs. So trading down and getting an additional pick sounds great, it’s definitely not a sure thing, even if that’s what the Raiders want to do. Personally I’m hoping we get Dorsey or Long. But that’s just me.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:19 am
And it’s basically a lock that the Raiders do not want to trade down in round 1 because Al never has done that.
Al trading down is about as likely as Al drafting a CB with 4.6 speed.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Some late-round sleeper picks to watch at the combine:
Offensive Tackle
1. Carl Nicks-is from Salinas, HUGE frame and long arms
2. King Dunlap-tallest player in the draft at 6′-9″
3. Anthony Collins-huge underclassmen that would fit well in a ZBS
Defensive Tackle
1. Letroy Guion-rated as the 5th best DT by Mayock, is a junior that has some off-field issues so he may slip.
2. Marcus Harrison-huge nose tackle from Arkansas that can stuff the run
Wide Reciever
1. Marcus Monk-very under rated 6′-6″ reciever that never had a solid QB tossing to him. Was very productive on a run-first SEC team
2. Steve Johnson-productive SEC reciever with the size and speed
Scatback
1. Justin Forsett-CAL product that has huge hands, and is very elusive.
2. Jamaal Charles-one of the fastest HB’s in the draft, played in a zone scheme at Texas, could slip to the 3rd or 4th round
Quarterback
1. Josh Johnson-mobile QB with back-up potential
2. Alex Brink-considered the smartest QB in the draft, somewhat mobile, projects as a great back-up. Played behind a bad offensive line at Washington State.
Inside Linebacker
1. Jameel McClain-very intense run stuffer, that could play as a two-down MLB
2. Josh Johnson-has the size and speed, will plunge in the draft because of off-field issues
Strong Safety
1. Josh Barrett-perfect for our defense, plays man defense like a cornerback, can cover TE’s. Weighs 225lbs so he can tackle and stuff the run. Doesn’t play zone defense very well so the cover 2 teams will have to avoid him.
2. Tyrell Johnson-tough, athletic and was a very productive tackler.
Interior Lineman
1. Drew Miller-jack of all trades at Florida, projects well as a center in a ZBS
2. Matt Spanos-kiffin’s center at USC, can play gaurd
February 20th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Hey, don’t we have to sign a long-term deal or put the franchise tag on Namdi TODAY? If not, doesn’t he go unrestricted FA (i.e. we get nothing if he signs with another team).
Also, I believe the coin flip with Atlanta is today but I don’t know when or where.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:00 am
I think the deadline on the franchise designation is 4 pm Eastern tomorrow.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:02 am
My sources tell me the coin flip is Friday.
What do your sources say BHP?
February 20th, 2008 at 10:03 am
Will anyone except “Bundy” trust the R word to make a D. pick? Kiff, has just found out in the off-season, he is just an offensive coach, that’s all he will ever be with the Faiders. Sad when your offense has to spot the D. 35 and still put up another L in the books. Fargas has signed a contract and will be traded, his durability is in question, look at his history. Nnamd is so-so never really tested, he did have some big time completions against him for first downs. Nnamd will take 2 much money away from the Def. with so many running holes to fill. As for Longs kid, both senior and junior has make it public he doesnt want to play for the Faiders. One of the Raider Greatest is still getting calls from free-agents wondering about the Iraq chaos, instability with “Bundy”, Kiff, and the R. word….Thanks to “Bundy” key free-agent player’s are not going to come here. Only the ones that want their careers resurrected or looking for a pay-check to pay their child support.
Just sell Baby and so it is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
February 20th, 2008 at 10:11 am
Zbikowski could be a great pickup for the Raiders. A true football player and a playmaker on defense.
If we grab Long and Zbikowski we add two of the most hard-nosed hardworking and talented defensive players you can find.
Here’s my ideal breakdown of the draft:
1 – Chris Long (DE Virginia) or Jake Long (OT Michigan): Rams might snatch C. Long but if he’s there the Raiders should take him as a run-stuffing DE who can also rush the passer.
2 – Trade for Chad Johnson (if not, go best DT, OT or WR available): The Raiders love the talented misfit. Ocho cinco is easily one of the top-5 WRs in the game and has the speed and big-play ability Oakland desperately needs. Obviously can be a pain, but Not a quitter like Randy Moss.
4 – Zbikowski (S Notre Dame): Tough playmaker. A golden gloves boxer who won his first pro fight with a first-round KO. Always around the ball making things happen.
5 – Darius Reynaud (WR W. Virginia): A really talented player with good athletic skills who never got a chance to shine because of WVa’s run-oriented attack. Along with Zbikowski, a guy who might be able to help with punt returns.
6 – Jeremy Zuttah (OT Rutgers): Raiders already have an upside project in Mario Henderson. Zuttah is reliable in both pass and run blocking.
7 – Xavier Lee (QB Florida State): I saw him play in a national high school all-star game and he was far superior to everyone else on the field athletically. Considered one of the best high school players in Florida history. For some reason Florida State never made good use of him but he’s one of the best athletes in this draft and someone I’d convert to either RB or WR. He’s a force with huge upside. Not a good passer though and at 6-4 maybe too tall for RB. Could be another Ronald Curry story but with even more talent.
UFA – Ben Mauk (QB Cincinnati): On the small side for the position (think Drew Brees, not Doug Flutie) but a tough, talented guy with heart who knows how to win. Played through a really bad shoulder injury last year. Stash him on the bench as a 3rd-stringer and see what happens. Could develop into a really nice backup and some competition to keep JaMarcus focused.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Derek Smith was cut yesterday by the 49ers. If he is over his injury worries, he could be a smart, low cost addition to our LBs. Zach Thomas has been made an offer by the Pats – and he would command big money. Smith might be better value and we need some experience at LB.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Absolutely Scottish, that guy is a tackling machine that lost his job to a high draft pick. Sign him up to provide some veteran presence and experience to our LBs. No-brainer.
He is listed as a ILB, would you then move Morrision outside to accommodate Smith?
February 20th, 2008 at 10:19 am
and smith wouldn’t have to move to join the raiders. like Rice before him, not having to disrupt the family (if he has one) could be a big factor.
but does he fit into our system?
February 20th, 2008 at 10:22 am
just to clarify for post 164. I did find the video I was referencing, and no Rob Ryan did not say his defense was going to be number one(on this video.) He only agreed with a fans hope that the Raiders D would be number one.
here it is
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6229978114889817300&q=lane+kiffin&total=12&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5
February 20th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Like Newberry too
February 20th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Chris in NY,
Did you just post a question on the Mel Kiper chat on ESPN.COM? Is your real name Mikey from Lachawana, NY?????
February 20th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Chris Long is gone, Tuna will take him
The Raiders should get Gosder Cherilus. He’s faster than jake long, and his pass protection made BC’s spread offense work. He played on the right side as a nasty run blocker. He faced better comp in speed rush catergory in the ACC than did Long in the Big Ten. He’s on the tall side of 6′7″ so there’s room for physical development, and Long’s technique is maexed so he’s at a cieling.Herilus’ switch to the left side hides his development, he got better with time.
Gosder Cherilus is the answer. Quick enough to take a speed rusher down low, classic pass protection tackle frame, better ability to get to a hybrid player at the second level than long.
He’s healthier than Dorsey, so aside from Chris Long he’s the best player this draft. Gosder Cherilus has value added because three teams need two starters at offensive tackle, and five(perhaps seven) could use a starter or start depth there including Tampa and the Giants who were playoff teams and will draft the need ahead of value to end round one.
Gosder Cherilus is who the Raiders should get. He’s got a nasty streak, some emotion, and he executes. He is ‘the answer’ to speed rushing ends.
End the questions. Cherilus is the Answer!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Yes, because I still think that Morrison will be even more effective at OLB than MLB. Morrison is a playmaker but he isn’t a runstuffer. We need a tackle-machine like Smith or Thomas to hold the centre, whilst allowing Morrison and Howard to be more aggressive.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:27 am
If the Raiders win the coin-flip over Atlanta, I GUARANTEE that we will go DEFENSE with our 1st round pick.
Either way, we will stay where we’re at in draft order unless someone offers us THE HOUSE to trade down. We will NOT trade up.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:31 am
I hope this does not affect Fabian Washington.
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20080220/BREAKING02/932438945
sounds like a simple tiff, but you never know what Goodell might do.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:34 am
Bundy will trade away first round pics. Bundy is getting word with all the chaos between him, his coaches along with his Failed Public Relations campaign re-guarding such major issues. “THE FIRST ROUNDERS, HAVE LET IT BE KNOWEN THEY WILL NOT COME HERE”………….Faiderland is trying everything from giving away free season passes to First-Rounders families, to having Amy Task giving lifetime b——s to First-Rounders! Bundy is finding out nothing is working.
Just sell baby, and so it is………
February 20th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Gosder Cherilus is good but a real reach at 3 or 4. I think we are better waiting and seeing what OTs are available at No37. The two most likely are Carl Nicks (Nebraska) and Oniel Cousins (UTEP) – both are solid prospects. There is also a likelihood that one of Sam Baker, Chris Williams or Jeff Otah will still be around.
I agree that Cherilus is a better pass-protector than Jake Long. That is why I think Long is a better RT prospect.
There is also a theory that the Junior Guard from Virginia, Branden Albert, might make a LT in the pros. However, given the speed Albert is rising up most draft boards, he could well be gone before our second pick.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Too bad the only person Fabian can tackle is his girlfriend…what a putz.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:41 am
Isn’t Cherilus supposed to last until late first/early 2nd round. A Chris Long-Cherilius 1-2 punch would be nice.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:41 am
I heard that DeSean Jackson runs a legit 4.29/40.
If we goes sub-4.3, his stock will soar.
He would pair SOOO nicely with JaMarcus!!!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:42 am
Raiderfan,
Nice video. Rob Ryan seemed like a pretty nice guy, it almost breaks my heart to call him a failure as our D-Coordinator, but sometimes the truth hurts. I can certainly see why the players like him, but that is not justification for keeping him around for another year Al.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:50 am
I don’t know RaiderRaul, I’m a golden bears fan and while I appreciate DeSean’s elusiveness, he has a quite fragile build. He only seemed to come up big about one game a year whereas Lavelle Hawkins was there every game. Perhaps he (DeSean) was always double-covered, but the only damage he seemed to do was when he was given the ball with a lot of space. A LOT of space. Cal would try little wide receiver screens to him a la Carolina for Steve Smith, but Jackson never seemed to do anything with it.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Sam Baker, USC, 6’5 315 (OT)
Baker is a solid, consistent prospect. He lacks the overall potential of other picks, but he’s also got one of the lower bust factors. Baker excels in pass pro, and has the frame to add some more bulk. He could use some more lower body strength, but he would be a sound pick.
Carl Nicks, Nebraska, 6’5-343 (OT)
Nicks has a lot of potential. His size and strength may be better suited to RT. Nicks moves well for a man of his size, and was one of the most consistent performers at Senior Bowl. He also plays up to his size and gets movement in the ground game.
Oneil Cousins, UTEP, 6’4-301 (OG/OT)
It’s hard not to compare Cousins and Willie Colon. They are similar physically, and both have a bit of mean streak. Cousins has shorter arms, and is just shorter than ideal for a tackle. He moves very well, though, and gets good leverage. He’s explosive coming out of his stance, which is also a strength of Colon’s. Cousins is stronger than Colon, but lacks the technique. He has too wide a base and has been relying on his natural power up to this point. When he cleans that up, Cousins has a whole lot of potential.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:01 am
Does anyone know when the coin toss between the Raiders and Falcons to determine the 3rd and 4th picks in the draft will be?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:06 am
I say we take either Ellis or Dorsey with our first pick and take Hawkins in the 2nd round, assuming he’s available. As much as I’d like to have DeSean Jackson, I don’t want to trade down for him (unless we get a really good deal), and I think Hawkins is plenty good.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Raider1962…
yup @ the combine =)
February 20th, 2008 at 11:10 am
fender what system is that?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Thank you La Milicia…do you happen to know what time and what day? I can’t seem to find any info.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Good day La Milicia Negra, how is everything in the land of Tivoli?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:30 am
We need to draft defensive lineman bad. The AFC west is a running division with LT and johnson. If we can stop the run our CB’s will have a field day next year.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Thank god no more whinney charger fans in here again
February 20th, 2008 at 11:32 am
“Just Sell Baby” has to be the biggest idiot to post on here. What is this guy a chiefs fan? I absolutely hate to read the dribble that comes from this guy, I’m sure I’m not the only one to skip right over his posts, plus I am pretty sure that this guy posts under three different names. This guy is not a Raider fan because real Raider fans don’t call them Faiders, that’s a chiefs term. Quit hating, or get lost!
This guy is a loser, and so it is…
February 20th, 2008 at 11:39 am
M…
Its been action packed!!! A bomb went of at a solarium, I think its gang-related.
And Akon was playing for free at a mall. several thousands was there, a fire alarm went off and the people panicked. According to the Firebrigade over 1000 to many. Then the fans went ballistic and attacked the police.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Raider1962…
Nope, I dont know, I think its when the event kicks off.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Breaking news
—”Raiders CB Fabian Washington was arrested Tuesday night on a domestic battery charge.
He is accused of grabbing his girlfriend from behind during an argument. Washington claims the confrontation never became physical. A first-round pick in 2005, Washington lost his starting job to Stanford Routt last year.
Feb. 20 – 1:55 p.m. ET”—
February 20th, 2008 at 11:43 am
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/g122/danzigworshipper/tight_jeans.gif
February 20th, 2008 at 11:43 am
wooops sorry
this one =)
http://www.mysuncoast.com/Global/story.asp?S=7898610&nav=menu577_2_1
February 20th, 2008 at 11:45 am
LMN,
Damn, Kobenhavn sounds like its been invaded by British soccer fans!
February 20th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Dakota at 184,
No, that wasn’t me dude. Why do you ask?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:48 am
LMN -
That first link is waaaaaaaay better than the second one. Thanks for that.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:51 am
LMN
Dakota and I were having adult beverages last night, well Dakota was just wishing he was, what happen to you?
Your always good for a few pints.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Dakota
An individual just left having to owe quite a bit to the “MAN”
I remarked you just bought part of the interstate, just to let you know I copied that one from you, sorry.
They laughed, thanks Dakota.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:57 am
M…
Yeah, we have had some rioting these last days, and now bombs!?
RaiderDogg
It was intensional, have to share some eye candy!
RaiderDell
yeah I had a few, I was watching Champions League at one of my friends last night – in fact i’m watching it now but at home, but tonight its cidefree =)
February 20th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Do you think Fsbians girl friend will replace him with Stanford Routt?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:57 am
lmn
Thats all you do in that foreign country is whack-off to skinny girls?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Unknown
At least there not fat!!
February 20th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
unknown…
yeah, fat girls doesn’t do it for me =)
February 20th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
RaiderDell
Lol, touché =)
February 20th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
HEY MISTA how u doin, we actually only give up a # 1 & a # 2 of our own, the other #1 is from nfl to chiefs so in theory youre rite 2 1’s & a #2 nah ! but my notion is kc will match any offer AL DAVIS & RAIDERS put on jared allen which will put alot of negative pressure on kc thru camp !!
February 20th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
She isn’t skinny up top, she could use a little more junk in the trunk though.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
RaiderDogg
Let me say HELLO
Hope all is well.
I was in your neck of the woods(sort of) last week, I ate lunch at the Fuma Bistro & Bar, very good.
Beautiful area, nice drive Napa Valley.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
I’ll bet i’ll be banned for this =) hope they believe it was a ‘mistake’ =)
February 20th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
RaiderDell
Did you see Tom Walsh?
February 20th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
I must admit Dogg
I’m a junk man like Fred Sanford!! lol
Those twins are eye candy. But, babies get the most out of twins though. lol
February 20th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
LMN
That would be in Idaho Valley, where Mr. Walsh is, as we speak he is devising pass plays on a napkin.
The ol bed and breakfast offense, a scramble there a dash there and a lot of runnin eggs.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Dell,
Glad to have been a help.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
LMN
Hope this helps, I did not know what he said about Moss.
He was a Mayor, oh man!!!
Tom Walsh is a former NFL assistant coach, most recently with the Oakland Raiders. He was hired in February, 2006, as offensive coordinator by head coach Art Shell[1] but demoted before the end of the 2006 season and replaced by John Shoop.[2] After leaving the Raiders, Walsh stated that Randy Moss, whom he coached in Oakland, was “a player whose skills are diminishing.”[3] Moss went on to break the single season touchdown reception record in 2007 after being traded to the New England Patriots.
Walsh spent the past several years operating a bed and breakfast in Swan Valley, Idaho[4] and served as the town’s mayor.[1] Prior to this, he had been the head football coach at Idaho State University.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Chris,
I was just curious, the question involved Cromartie (your post #148). Thought it might have been you that asked the question to Mel. Just a shot in the dark.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Raider Dell -
Hello to you my friend. I hope that you and your family are doing well.
So what had you up in this neck of the woods? Client in the Napa Valley? I have never been to Fuma Bistro Bar. I am in Sonoma County and I honestly don’t make it out to Napa very often.
There’s a new steak house that just opened in Santa Rosa called Starks. Taking a page from the old school steak houses, it’s like stepping back in time over there. Plus they have an absynthe bar!
I meant to mention earlier, post #63 was an excellent contribution. Killer info and insight, thanks for that.
Also the offer still stands if you want a soundboard recording of that Mule show that you and your son attended back in November.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Dakota,
Oh, that wasn’t me either — a different Chris. Cromartie did look great in the Senior Bowl but I think we have bigger needs to fill in rounds 1&2 than another CB.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
1962,
See post #176 for a partial answer to your question about the coin flip. I don’t know the exact time, but it is this coming Friday.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
RaiderDogg
The mail box will be here shortly, so the great sounds you have of Mule Govt can be downloaded then, I’m very patient I haven’t forgotten your offer.
Thanks. Did Glenn ever deliver the concert music he had to you?
February 20th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Chris,
Ooooops, sorry.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Unknown -
I feel you on the Fred Sanford way of life. That line cracked me up. I’m a sucker for twins too though.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Dell -
I have plans to hook up with OG at Ricky’s or JaMarcus Russell’s house on Skyline Blvd the next time I am in the East Bay. OG really came through for me on that. That is one show that was impossible to find, and I have a few solid connections. I am eager to find out how he obtained such a rare recording.
Just let me know when you are ready to proceed and I will send you a copy wherever you want, on me.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Let me ask the question this way.
How many of you see us drafting Defense first, offense second in the draft.
I believe the blog has this look, DT has about 60% of us going in that direction, and 30% going for a back, and 10% wanting to trade down with our first pick.
I’m at a loss, were do we go with our second round pick.
So far, most of the bloggers have us at OT then WR, and some DT again.
What says you out there.
I know a lot depends on FA.
Some one posted, we do better on our second pick lately.
Very good player will be available.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
LMN,
the eye candy was exactly what the USO has done for this country’s soldiers over the years. Helping keep the Raider Nation happy, commendable.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Thank you Dakota!!
February 20th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
I bet the Raiders can get 5th round value for Andrew Walter but does anybody think that we can somehow convince a team to take him for a 3rd round pick? I think it is paramount that the Raiders somehow get a 3rd rounder. A 5th would be nice too obviously, but a 3rd would make me feel better about maybe selecting Trevor Laws in the 2nd, I have a sneaking suspicion that Laws will be gone by the 3rd. He played like a beast at the Senior Bowl. Have I said this before?
Trevor Laws is to me like McFadden is to Dakota. Except the Raiders wouldn’t have to break the bank to sign Laws.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
RaiderDell, as there does not seem to be much in the way of any useful LT among the FA’s, round two would look well to find one. ScottishRaider threw out some good info on that awhile back.
D-line, O-line, D-line, O-line…it should be a mantra until it gets rectified.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
M
I see you handled Farrell very well.
So let me in on that post #162, just the point you were saying was?!!!!!
February 20th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
M…
Thanx, I believe I helped this blog not going back to the former days of cannibalism.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Question, is Fabian trying to get himself traded to Cincinnati?
February 20th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Dell,
Obviously it depends on who we pick up in free agency, but right now I would love to see us get Ellis DT in round 1 and Cherilous (sp?) OT in round 2.
If we address the left tackle position in free agency I would like to see us pick up Chris Long in Round 1 and then one of the second tier DTs in round 2. Build a strong d-line that will, hopefully, make our secondary look better with the pressure they put on the QB.
If we pick up a decent DT in free agency, I wouldn’t mind seeing us pick McFadden round 1 and Cherilous in round 2.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
RaiderDogg
We were called dumb earlier( by another blogger) for thinking about a DT with our first two picks.
I want to say second round WR, I’m feeling good about that, my sources tell me, “pssst don’t tell it’s Dakota”.
Back to the Draft.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
RaiderDogg…
ohhh Trevor Laws! man i hope he will end up like M. Bush, a gift falling late in our laps =)
if we get him i would be in 7th heaven, if we get Dorsey and Laws or Ellis and Laws I would be most excited about we got Laws. Probably because i know we will get either Dorsey or Ellis. But Laws has that “so you say they are better than me? I’ll show you” attitude that I just looove =)
February 20th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Dakota
Just playin, or did you?
February 20th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
RaiderDell, I was simply apologizing for my exceptional ignorance about football in six separate languages. And then again in English of course.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Dakota
Read Scottish post, no LT out there.
Please no Flozell Adams, to much money.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
M
Very good, I like your smarts.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
if McQuistan in Dallas can beat Flozell so can our Mcquistan!
February 20th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
LMN
I agreee what you said!!
February 20th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
LMN speaks and so it is.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
I rather give Max Starks big money than Flozell Adams
February 20th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
There has to be someone out there that can play LT better than Barry f-ing Sims! Come on people.
Lincoln Kennedy, come out of retirement, pleeeeease!
Does anyone here believe that Mario Henderson can play LT in the NFL?
February 20th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
RaiderDell have you caused enough of your clients grief for the day or is it just a Nation break?
February 20th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Haven’t seen enough of Mario Henderson to know if he’d be better’n Florence Henderson protecting the Franchise’s back side.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Dakota
Henderson is technically our third round pick this year, if you look at our move at the draft last year.
He didn’t sniff a down, who’s to say if he will play this year.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
M
Actually lunch, just getting caught up with the comings and goings of Raider Nation.
Believe me this is more fun, but in a few minutes work begins again.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
If there was an Orlando Pace or Jonathan Ogden out there I’d take that in a heartbeat, worrying about the D-line later. There just isn’t anybody of that ability.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
I remember a cool thing about the ‘07 season…When Cable was asked about the former woes the raiders o-lines have had…He simply said, the Atlanta line he left was less talented than the one he just saw in Oakland! Atlanta was #1 in rushing yards when he left!
I bet Cable has a great plan for our O-line, its our D-line and linebackers im worried about!
February 20th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
The thought of letting Russell play with Sims guarding his blind side actually keeps me up at night.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop drinking Rum and Coke.
The thought of Shaq and the Suns beating the Lakers tonight makes me physically ill.
No wonder I need Nexium.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Mario Henderson couldn’t play left tackle against
Barack Obama’s cousin, Dick Chaney!!
Now thats a let down, like Barack often says! lol
February 20th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
To all taxpayers, Raider fans,
Have a great day, I’m off to save more dollars from leaving the wallet.
Many happy returns, later
February 20th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
we should draft matt ryan
February 20th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Just one more scoring drive per game for the O. Just one! And its a whole new ballgame so to speak.
Don’t need a flash superstar for that. Solid line play and its done.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Barry’s last name should be Sive…not Sims.
The left side of the line is like a sive when he’s in there…
Barry Sive couldn’t block a high school lineman
February 20th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Barry Sive is the man!
February 20th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
http://www.mysuncoast.com/Global/story.asp?S=7898610&nav=menu577_2_1
The Oakland Raiders have applied their franchise tag to cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, according to Adam Schefter of NFL Network.
Asomugha will be tendered a one-year contract equal to the average of the five highest-paid cornerbacks in 2007.
A five-year veteran who attended the University of California, Asomugha is eligible to talk with other teams. If he signs an offer sheet elsewhere and the Raiders opt not to exercise their right to match, the Raiders would be entitled to compensation in the amount of two first-round draft picks.
Asomugha was a first-round pick of the Raiders in the 2003 draft.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
http://beta.profootballtalk.com/2008/02/20/raiders-tag-asomugha-gesundheit/
February 20th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Woah, there’s Adam Shefter going waaaaaay out on a limb again, trying to gain some cred after his last three idiotic debacles. Way to go Adam.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
I wish it were a long term deal…Thanks LMN
February 20th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
The Suns are lucky Bynum is out. He ate Amare Stoudamire alive last time!! Todays game is just a preview of how the Lakers are going to get Phil Jackson his 10th ring.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Fabian got arrested for domestic battery in Florida yesterday.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Even if it seemed a foregone conclusion, tagging Nnamdi is very good to hear.
Oakglenn, what is Adam Scheisster up to now?
February 20th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
C’mon Quagmire’d, who hasn’t gotten completely toasted, hit their girlfriend and then shot at a couple of cops. It happens all the time.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
The article says Fabian “boned” his way out of jail on Wednesday….lol.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Why does Schefter get all the scoops??
So IF someone else were to bait Nnamdi away, where would the 2 1st round picks come from?? Do they come from the team who gets the player? Or from the league??
February 20th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Sure thing, Sex Machine…get up-a, get on up!
February 20th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
M, trying to get some credibility back. Shefter saying the Raiders tagged Asomugha on Wednesday before the tag deadline is like me breaking a story on this blog that as of noon today 20 Feb, Al Davis is the majority general partner of the Oakland Raiders. Tell us something we don’t know, Adam.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
The team, Raider Raul….probably future first round picks, maybe including this years too…don’t know.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
by the way, OG, a good afternoon to you.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Why does Schefter get all the scoops??
I know it’s unlikely to happen, but IF another team were to bait Nnamdi away, where would the 2 1st round picks come from?? Do they come from the team who gets the player in 2008 & 2009? Or from the league??
February 20th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Man that’s bad. Fabian couldn’t even make headlines starved espn. His trade value just went to about a 5th rd pick.
That Cromartie cat suddenly looks takeable now.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Terrible Mug Shot of Fabian Washington… Dude looks like he’s been out drinking with Rob Ryan!
February 20th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Q,
Probably something like this year’s and next year’s. Obviously, the compensation is so steep, it discourages that happening anyways.
OG,
I think you’re right. Schefter only “breaks” a story if it is painfully predictable (Nnamdi & Shell).
February 20th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
He didn’t even beat his girl. A real NFL great would of kicked the crap out of her. No wonder Stanford Routt took his starting spot
February 20th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Haha…at least we know he does something well.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
That’s right Quagmire’d:
Washington boned out of jail Wednesday afternoon.
Boy, is his bone tired!
February 20th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Somebody should send article that to Jay Leno for his funnt headlines segment! He Boned his way out of the big house!
February 20th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Two Raider cornerbacks in the news on a winter’s day, does that have implication for the two-headed coinflip in Indy?
February 20th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
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February 20th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
we’ve been out of the spotlight for some days and on the same day we hit it with a jail trip and a tag story…
Hmmm at least it not something like Al Davis has stepped down and his little known brother will take over the franchise and Kiffin is going to be HC of a NFL Europe team….
February 20th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
—”The Titans officially placed the franchise tag on Albert Haynesworth.
He will earn $7.25 million if he plays under the tag, but don’t expect him to sign for a while. The Titans and Haynesworth will work on a long-term deal, but both sides have some motivation to put it off. Haynesworth’s effort has been inconsistent in his career, but another All Pro year could make him the richest defender in the league.
Feb. 20 – 4:24 p.m. ET”—
February 20th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
btw the cornerback tender is $9,465,000
February 20th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Rob Ryan arrested for DUI
His BAC was .99
February 20th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
I want Nnamdi signed long ter so I can get his jersey. I don’t want to have another Woodson, & Moss situation. I bought both their jerseys only for them to leave the following year
February 20th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Hopefully, Fabian studied the thugs during his incarceration. Maybe he can keester a knife in his rectum and use it to make tackles.
His motto should be “There is more than 1 way to skin a bronco”. Comments?
February 20th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
perhaps Fabian Washington will be reluctant to be further incarcerated. Perhaps instead he will regard Nnamdi’s work ethic as something to be admired as it can amount to a whole lotta dinero.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Yes, the old adage, ‘you can’t teach speed’, but technique can be learned. Listening Mr. Washington?
February 20th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Do you know where Fabian went wrong? All he did was hit her, he should have wrapped her up! Dude can’t even tackle off the field!
Catchy motto Unknown
February 20th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Fabian Washington must need the dinero if he can’t afford bail.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
C’mon Washington! You get caught using your hands on receivers AND you get caught using your hands on your girl. You need more skills.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Rob Ryan’s Mug Shot
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February 20th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
At least Fabian is working on his back-peddle during the off-season.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Dogg
It took me a few seconds to catch the joke.
But, its a hilarious joke, because its so true. I can’t stop laughing!
I believe he finally used his speed to escape form
Mr. Booty Bandit!! lol
February 20th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Fabian Washington… Another 1st Round Bust
February 20th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
If Fabian now belongs to Mr. Booty Bandit, hopefully he will lose that job too!! lol
February 20th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Fabian is innocent until proven dumb, just like Pacman. He may have simply been defending a baby from a gold digging crackwhore.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
You think Fabian went to the same jail in Florida that Barrett Robbins went to?
February 20th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Fabe, just be cool dog. Lay lo far a minit. Get ya hade rite.
I no da judge dog. He cool!
February 20th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Can you major in domestic violence at the University of Nebraska?
Well, at least we all know what the N on their helmets stands for: “Nowledge”.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
I just want to say don’t believe the rumors nation.
I kept the jail house laughing, so they couldn’t concentrate on my booty.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Wow, news of Fabain’s arrest didn’t even make nfl.com
Most NFL players who get traffic tickets are reported there
February 20th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
the raiders need to focus on the d-line and o-line plain and simple.sign 2 free agent receivers and a veteran lb and veteran safety.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Maybe they don’t consider Fabian an NFL player
February 20th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Maybe it was Fabio, not Fabian?
February 20th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
I guess most people, oustide of Oakland and Nebraska, don’t even know who Fabian is.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Like the great Marion Barry would say.
“The _itch set me up”
February 20th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Dakota, do the cornerbacks in the Badlands spend all their time in either strip clubs or juggling girlfriends (some of whom they’ve procreated with)?
February 20th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Nowledge is a turrible waist of tyme.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
It’s all a misunderstanding. Fabian is innocent. Me & Al will bail him out…right after I change Al’s Diapers.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
You could substitue “Juggling girlfriends” with “Juggling Kin”
February 20th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
I just finished the 18mo. program , DUI no fun.Don’t drink & drive , a cab is the right thing to do. Regarding the draft , after my 6th beer , I had a dark thought. Can anyone see Al drafting someone our division rivals want desperately , and burning the pick?Let the #3 or #4 guy go back to the draft the next year , to protest because there’s no rookie cap , and we can’t (or won”t) trade down?Too much money vs. value? He’s just mean and smart enough ….
February 20th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I love the offseason! Bottoms Up!
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February 20th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
I am a little surprised that the Raiders’ official web site posted pictures of Rob Ryan’s family reunion…seems al little unseemly if you ask me:
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February 20th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Souldogdave, until the NFL adopts an NBA-type program capping the salaries of rookies, allowing those men, veterans, who have proven their way in the game to receive the major portion of the salary allotment there will be nothing sensible about the value of a high draft pick. In a way, the poorer teams are being penalized for having been bad because they have to tie up so much damn money in a few players that they cannot build a solid core and keep them.
Free agency is all well and good if there would but be a rookie cap.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Ouch!My friend said DUI , not domestic abuse.Sorry.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
You think Al Davis has set up some Rehab programs for coaches & players with Alcohol problems? Hopefully he can RR some help.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Ok, the raiders web site just confirmed they franchised nmambi.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
You mean Nnamdi? Nmambi is a stripper at the Congo Club in Mitchell, South Dakota.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Bambi???
February 20th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
my mistake. that’s what i get for multi tasking.
Nmamdi. !
February 20th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
though perhaps signing the stripper wouldn’t be a bad idea either.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
So if the Raiders tag Nnamdi they can still work out a long term deal with him before he signs the one year tender correct? I’m hoping that they tagged him to keep him off the market but that they are behind the scenes as we speak ironing out a long term deal.
Unknown -
It appears that you are one of the few that gets my sense of humor.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Fender,
We already signed a stripper; Alyssa Milano. She is an aging veteran, but she came at a cap friendly price.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
FYI: If anyones interested there’s some good player breakdowns now available on NFL.com/draft
http://www.nfl.com/combine/players
February 20th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Thanks Terrapin.
Dakota, is that Congo Club the source of the ‘Mitchell Report’?
February 20th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Raiders tag Asomugha as expected…now can we go shopping ???
February 20th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
For whom Mr. Flores? The real meat hits the market after the end of the month.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
how many games will Fabian be benched thanks to this disaster???
February 20th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
JUSTIN SMITH DE CIN would defintely be a massive improvement in our D Line ???
February 20th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
We could also use some depth at LB and SS agreed mr M ?
February 20th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Florida Pete -
The Packers tagged your boy Williams today.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
M
esp since reading your post about rookie caps…you should agree that any help from a proven youngster (under 28) would be gladly accepted…
February 20th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Fabian was already benched due to poor performance.
That’s the one good thing RR did…he benched Fabian & Turdell early on…then Schwag was riding pine by season’s end.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Fabian…Turdell…and Schwag SUCK!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I had hoped for some news by Jerry by now, I’ll go play some online poker and wait a bit longer!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
RRPL
I have nothing to hang it on, but i think Sands will surprise us next year!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
FL Pete
I knew he was too good to not get tagged…you may remember my post a few days ago outlining FAs that could help us..which included their salries ?? he was on my list but with an asterisk because of his potential to be tagged…
Justin Smith and Lance Briggs cannot be tagged so why not go after them ??? They are both upgrades and worth the 6-8 M salries they will demand in free agency.
They will fill gaps for us and allow us to focus on the draft and minimize our “needs” in the draft.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
i.e. reading up on Red Bryant on NFL.com and the guys looks to be a stud run stuffer. The only concern I can see is he suffers from dyslexia, yet he has been very productive nonetheless. He may even fall to the 3rd round. He talents are just what the defense needs to stop the run – put Sands old ass back on the bench and get some new young blood.
I’m just salivating over the thought of Ellis in round 1 and Bryant in round 3 (if we can muster and 3rd round pick). Defense line problems virtually solved w/ 2 premier defenders in their own right.
Bryant demands a double team allowing Ellis and possibly Burgess to be singled (likely chip blocked by RBs). Burgess, Ellis, Bryant, Kelly/Rich/Clemons. Should provided for pressure up the middle plus containment at RDE. Burgess’ run defense is a “?” mark.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
—”Packers named DL Corey Williams their franchise player.
This doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll sign Williams, unless he quickly puts pen to paper on the $6,363,000 offer. GM Ted Thompson will likely work to deal Williams before that happens. Williams can play end and tackle, and with 14 sacks 2006-2007, should at least bring back a second-round pick.
Feb. 20 – 6:02 p.m. ET”—
February 20th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
LMN
waiting or expecting anyone surprising us next year is a risk we can’t afford…it’s time to go about rebuilding in an aggressive manner with one eye on the cap and another on our own roster…
there are plenty of areas we can improve with a lateral cap move in the FA marketplace. We have a handful of underperforming guys that we can trade or waive and free up space to sign new FA’s to take their spot or resign some of our own FAs that deserve another year here in Silver and Black
February 20th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
post#357-
This is why drafting is so important, you can’t depend on free agent contracts ending and signing players, teams are getting too smart with the cap to lose guys they want. I suppose a 2nd round pick for williams isn’t terrible, but with the needs we have, and the current shortage of picks, that just takes away options from us. I’ve straddled the fence all offseason, but it’s crystal clear to me now. It’s imperative we draft a defensive lineman in the first round
February 20th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
LMN
if we offer Williams a contract and GB matches…we will have to give up two number 1 draft picks…no player in FA is worth that price !!!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Agreed, Mr Flores, an establshed player could be of great help. Justin Smith for one. As far as safety, I have not seen one available in FA worthy of spending on. Linebacker? Yeah, Lance Briggs, but that’ll be an enormous mortgage. Derek Smith, if he can still bring it would be nice for a couple of years. 33 though.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Tom Flores…
do you think i suggest a player everytime i post they have been tagged?
I post’em here because then we can take themout of our considerations and talks here on the block…
I simply posted it as an information, thats why it is in qoutes
February 20th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Terrapin and Raiderwill
I agree…we HAVE to take more than one D Lineman in the draft…using our number 3 or 4 pick would be fine with me and most likely to occur…but I wish we could trade down and pick up more picks along the way to beef up our LB and SS positions.
If we only dropped down to say number 8 or 9 we woudl still get a top 3 or 4 D Lineman plus two very high second round picks along the way from moving down from number 3 or 4…
I guess that would be too much to hope for…
February 20th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
flores-
they can also rescind the tag and trade him for whatever value they get, like the champ bailey and clinton portis trade. denver did not give up 2 first round picks, and champ was franchised that year
February 20th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
D Smith is still tackling over a hundred a year…why not give him a two year contract ??? At the very least we get a short term fix at that position
LMN
sorry
February 20th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
La Milicia Negra, how in the hell did you come to be so knowledgeable about futbol americano and the Raiders in particular? It really is quite impressive.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Hey…
I am just stating the obvious…I would LOVE to have Williams on our D line are you kidding me??? He was on my short list…the franchise tag just makes it more expensive and defintely more complicated…I dont think we can afford to give up a single draft pick right now and we should be looking to acquire picks…on that note GB could use an extra RB..why not throw LJ into a trade offer for Williams ???
February 20th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Trading down requires someone who is willing to give up a lot for supposedly a singular player who is the missing piece to a puzzle for that team. Ain’t no tradin’ down ‘thout that.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Post 325 and 326- HILARIOUS!!! At work and can’t stop laughing out loud. Uh-oh, drawing attention to myself…here comes the MAN.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Oops, meant 336.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
i just heard NA was tagged with the exclusive franchise tag on sirius 124.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Throw in LJ to pay for Fabian’s bond and next round of drinks. Man, Norv did not hit a solid note with that hire.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
btw M
we do have salary cap space this year…and could free up a bit more if we waive a few guys that are overpaid underperformers…I think Briggs is gonna want what SF paid last year…8 x 8M….but I think he si worth it…Sapp made 10M in 06….Daunte 8M last year…
both are gone and if we get rid of LJ thats another 4M
trimmed off the roster…
February 20th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
someone mentioned that fact that no one reports on Raiders news ….that is so true…and if they do report it…well lets just say its innacurate at best…like the Fargas deal listed as a one year deal…as opposed to a 3 year deal…
what is really disconcerting about this is that it seems to be an organized effort to keep FA’s from coming here…I really am starting to believe there is a conspiracy against Al Davis and the Raiders organization in the press and NFL
February 20th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Damn. Culpepper made 8 mil. last year? That’s criminal!
February 20th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Don’t none of you poots, talk about Ms. Milano. She was a hit since the Tony Danza days.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
M…
thanks to some stupid americans trying to teach a even stupider 10 year old Dane! business men staying at my Fathers when they were in Denmark, my father was a member of Lions INT.
One particular, a Texan, I was about 12, he was a Raider FAN, which he explained was cool when you came from Texas – I just liked the colors and the Logo – Then they were MY TEAM!!
And believe it or not a ‘Up With People’ teached me of the nastiness of Raider D!
Then Later i bought books, got people I knew in the US to send me tapes and so on – later with the Internet it was easy.
But mostly the american sites was slow and oldfashioned which was a real dud. Now almost 10 years after I started follow the raiders on the net it finally suits most my needs. I’ve watched 3 games at the same time on laptops plus the game in TV each game. So My needs this year have been fulfilled, now I just cant wait for the Draft, well combine first I guess…
February 20th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Believe it Mr. Flores, believe it. As about 9 people own every damn thing on this planet they do not appreciate when anyone bucks their system. They prefer nice compliant billionaires like R. Kraft and overt cheats like Clemens and Belichump to anyone who rocks the boat.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Poor Draft choices have really crippled this team of late…
Philip Buchanon
Napolean Harris
Doug Jolley
Robert Gallery
Jake Grove
Fabian Washington
Derrick Gibson
Michael Huff
Terrible, given their draft positions
February 20th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
lmn
I need a cigarette after reading that dyslexia!!
What were you trying to say?
February 20th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
La Milicia Negra, thanks for the tale of how you came to be in the Raider Nation.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
unknown…
“how in the hell did you come to be so knowledgeable about futbol americano and the Raiders in particular? It really is quite impressive.”
ok let me sum it up in a paperback issue…
Football is cool, Raiders a tough and i like the colors and logo…
February 20th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
someone please send me a link to read what happened to Fabian….
thanks
February 20th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
lmn
You must have snuck across that countries border, where ever you are!
February 20th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Tom Flores…
post 210
February 20th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
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February 20th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
is the coin toss going to be tomorrow to decide our draft position ???
February 20th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
The Ugly American shows its face.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Who won the coin toss, us or Atlanta, it was supposed to happen today?
February 20th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Unknown…
I dont know how to interpret your last post..
February 20th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
The WR the Raiders will draft is Donnie Avery out of Houston — and they will be criticized for reaching when they take him in the second round.
Book it.
February 20th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
has Chi town franchised Berrian yet…anyone ?
February 20th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
RIP…
If Al is still running the draft you are probably right…but I will go one better…Raiders draft Flowers CB from VT in round one after trading down to number 8 or 9….instead of paying hefty number 3 or 4 overall signing bonuses…
February 20th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
instead of taking Ellis number 3 or 4 which would be the right move considering we have not been able to schedule any D-line FAs for work-outs…
unless someone out there knows anything different…we will be sticking with Al Davis formula….
speed on defense in 1st round or lump of coal O linemen !!!!
which means we may even take a Long with our first pick…either one would fill a need…
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