Jockeying for position
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, February 25th, 2008 at 9:37 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Some better-late-than-never wrap-up notes after traveling home from the NFL combine Sunday:
– The prevailing opinion going in was that LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey might be out of reach for the Raiders, while Arkansas running back Darren McFadden would not only be there, but still might not be worth the risk because of “character concerns.”
That was before Dorsey made an extra hospital visit for more investigation on a previous stress fracture and McFadden’s blazing 40-yard dash performance put a smoky haze on his reputation for nightclubbing and paternity suits.
Of course, Dorsey has two months to have his feet thoroughly checked out and McFadden can still get into trouble before April 26.
– Something to remember about 40-yard dash times _ they’re unofficial and change from one timer to the next.
Unbelievably, a league that produces all this money runs their combine 40s without an electronically timed finish. Some teams have their own timers and that is all they use.
Frank Cooney from The Sports Xchange breaks down how the 40 works _ the scouting service which the NFL uses to post times for the media on the NFL web site _ and explained the process in its own Web site:
Those who participate in the 40 actually run twice, and on each run they are timed by two hand-held stopwatches and one electronic timer (that is actually initiated by hand on the player’s first movement).
Combine data put together for NFL teams by National Scouting includes all six of those times for each player, but no single official time.
Team scouts and coaches have various approaches for getting the 40 time they use from those six timings. Some use averages. Some throw out slowest and fastest and then average the rest. Some ignore the whole thing and use a time taken by their own scout.
By one clocking, McFadden ran a 4.27. The NFL, through SportsXchange, had it at 4.33.
According to Sports Xchange, McFadden was beaten by East Carolina’s Chris Johnson, who timed 4.24.
Not that Jackson’s time is a guarantee of success. The 4.24 time tied their fastest recorded mark by someone named Rondel Melendez, a wide receiver from Eastern Kentucky who went 4.24 in 1999 and never made a mark on the NFL.
– Raider corners Fabian Washington and Stanford Routt both went 4.29 according to SportsXchange in 2005, although that may not have been the times the Raiders recorded.
– Ohio State defensive end Vernon Gholston was impressive with 38 bench press reps at 225 pounds, although it’s worth noting another Ohio State defensive end named Mike Kudla had 45 reps in 2006. Ever heard of him? He’s got a “Bench Press Supersite” Web page which advertises a 610-pound bench press as a senior.
It didn’t make him a pass rusher.
– The physical tests lag far behind the medical evaluations and interview opportunities in terms of value. Someone like DeSean Jackson needed only to prove he was fast (he did, with a 4.35 or 4.31, depending on who did the timing), and then the rest of his appearance was being poked, prodded and having his psyche explored in a 15-minute interview.
– Hard to imagine a prospect so far above the rest it would be worth moving up to the top pick. Colts owner Bill Polian seemed relieved to have a team good enough that he doesn’t have to worry about it.
“Now you face the proposition of saying if I’m after the first pick and I have to pay $30 million for it, how much do I want to give up in addition to that?,” Polian said. “And if you fail with that pick, your franchise is saddled with an albatross that
you can’t get rid of for who knows how long. It’s completely changed because ofthe cost of those picks and in my view, that’s wrong. It should change. That’s bad for the game. It isn’t about money, it’s about the integrity of the game on the field.”
The NBA’s system of paying rookies makes far more sense.
If you’re Miami and the best player on the board is Chris Long, how comfortable do you feel dropping $30 million plus in guarantees on a player who was compared to Patrick Kerney, who as a free agent last season signed a contract with $19.5 million in guarantees with Seattle?
Even if the Raiders could have traded out of the No. 1 pick in the draft last season, chances are there weren’t many takers.
– Had a nice chat with Lane Kiffin at the Hyatt Saturday before he decided he wouldn’t speak on the record regarding all things Raider, but apparently was asleep for the real show well after midnight. Sac Bee beat writer Jason Jones spotted Kiffin at a cigar bar called Nicky Blaine’s and nearby nightspot Ike & Jonseys. According to the Atlanta-Journal Constitution blog, Kiffin was even seen “cutting the rug” at the latter establishment.
– With several top quality restaurants and brew pubs within walking distance in downtown Indianapolis, it’s always an amusing sight to see so many head coaches and assistants ducking into the corner “Steak and Shake” for one of those regrettable late-night feasts.
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February 25th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
FIRST
February 25th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Now I can read the blog.
February 25th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Rookie salaries have to change … paying someone over 30 million guaranteed without playing a down in the NFL is just plain crazy.
I guess the Texans were smart passing on Bush and picking up a FA QB.
February 25th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Dwight McFadden eh?
February 25th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
I agree the 1st pick in the draft is more of pain in the butt than anything. Football is the ultimate team sport, rarely does one player change the entire team.
If anything a player can encourage all of the other players ie Ray Lewis, but that defense is still packed with playmaking top draft picks
Adrian Peterson was ridiculous last season, but the Vikings didnt even make the playoffs.
February 25th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
JERRY – Can you comment on Lane’s body language and his overall demeanor in regards to recent events. I know he can’t discuss details on the record but you can give us your personal opinion on how he’s holding up. If he’s cuttin’ a rug and smokin’ stogies, it’s a pretty good chance that regardless of what he’s wearing he will be our head coach next year.
February 25th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I wonder whats holding the NFL up from changing to a NBA Rookie Salary structure. You wouldnt think the players union would argue. The Rookie cap and the luxury tax saved the NBA
February 25th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I thought it was Darren Mcfadden…
February 25th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
How can he say he had a nice chat with kiffin, and then not tell us anything about that chat? Come on Jerry, we’ve all been talking about the 40 times all weekend. We want to know what Kiffin had to say.
February 25th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Sorry to double post, but I worked too hard looking up the info on this to leave it lingering as the last post on a dead thread
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I’ve been thinking about stud DTs on solid defenses around the league. How many of the best interior guys in the league were both drafted top 10 and are stil with the team that drafted them? It seems to me that it’s one of those positions where late rounders turn into stars and top picks into mediocre players perhaps more often than any other position. It also seems to be a position where there are a lot of late bloomers, and that usually happens on their second or third teams.
To back that assertion up, here’s the top 5 tackling interior lineman from ‘07:
Name, Team – Tackles / Assists / Sacks
Kelly Gregg, Bal – 56 / 24 / 3 — Cin 6th rd 1999
Jovan Haye, TB – 48 / 20 / 6 — Car 6th rd 2005
Mike Patterson, Phi – 50 / 17 / 4 — Phi 1st 2005 (31st overall)
Haloti Ngata, Bal – 43 / 20 / 3 — Bal 1st 2006 (12th overall)
Pat Williams, Min – 43 / 19 / 2 — Buf undrafted FA 1998
Darnell Dockett, Az – 43 / 15 / 9 — Az 3rd rd 2004
So only two of six were 1st round picks, neither top 10 and one very late in the round. Three 6th or lower rounders and blossomed with a different team than their first.
Looking for a top 10 pick in the last ten years and where they ranked on the 2007 interior DL tackle list we have only one in the top 30:
#7 Dewayne Robertson, NYJ 36 / 21 / 4 — NYJ 1st 2003 (4th overall)
While he’s been pretty consistent since joining the league, this is his best season. After 5 years of development.
So I’m now less convinced that taking a DT at #4 is historically a good pick. It just seems like a place where performing under expectations is possibly even more likely than not. With the draft as deep as it is in DL, maybe it does make sense to go for one of the later guys here.
Which means that I’m now thinking that I’m joining M.I.A. and saying that Gholston is the guy to pick at #4 if Baby Howie is gone. Better yet, trade down two slots with the Jets for a 3rd where they’d probably want a shot at either Ryan or DMac (although I still see his stock falling out of top 10) and then get Gholston for a couple million cheaper over the years. And then parlay that 3rd into a project DT or OT.
February 25th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
With the fourth selection of the 2008 NFL draft the Oakland Raiders select:
1. Miami – Chris Long; This pick depends entirely on what type of defense Parcells plan to run. Although Ellis and Dorsey have played some nosetackle this is not their natural position. Long can play defensive end in either a 3/4 or a 4/3. Ellis or Dorsey would not make a good fit if Miami decides to stick with a 3/4.
2. St. Louis – Glenn Dorsey; Although I think that left tackle is a more pressing need there are no tackles rated this high.
3. Atlanta – Quarterback (Matt Ryan); I personally think that Atlanta will take Darren Mcfadden. Why? Because a rookie QB takes time to develop (see Jamarcus Russell), and after the Michael Vick ordeal and Petrino’s dissapearing act, the quickess way for the Falcons to turn their franchise around is a stud running back ala Jamal Anderson. I know you all remember the infamous “dirty bird” and their ill fated super bowl run. The only bright spot in recent Falcon history. (and you see what Adrian Peterson did for the confidence and moral of not only the Viking players but the fan base as well)
4. the Oakland Raiders choose – no one; Trade down to New England for their number seven pick and a third round pick (because we don’t have one). With the fourth pick New England picks Darren Mcfadden (assuming that Atlanta goes with a franchise QB); Now before you revoke my Nation card here me out. After blowing the perfect season and a fourth super bowl title the Patriots will be desperate to squeeze out another superbowl to legitimize their corrupt organization and before their aging team starts to retire. And let us not forget that congress has gotten involved and will push Goodell to do a more thorough investigation and will eventually expose Billicheat for who he is and nail their collective asses to the barn yard door.
5. Kansas Shitty – Jake Long (can you say Robert Gallery)
6. New Jersey – Vernon Golston; Eric Mangini won’t take a player this high in the draft only to play them out of position and hinder the guys development as a professional athlete ( unlike some organizations we all know and profess to love, see Michael Huff).
7. the Oakland Raiders choose – Sedrick Ellis (or Glenn Dorsey, whichever one St. Louis didn’t choose)
We still get either Dorsey or Ellis at a much cheaper price and walk away with a third rounder.
February 25th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
A good GM can pick a good player, despite his clocked speed, in about 2.0 seconds.
The problem is, we don’t have that. And the closest person we have to it has his hands tied right now.
February 25th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
That’s some good analysis Cali, but lemme play some Devil’s Advocate here.
#3 — I don’t see Atlanta taking McFadden. They have essentially the same player in Jerious Norwood. A real fast RB that is a homerun threat whenever he can break free to the outside but tha doesn’t have the mental ability to play in the NFL passing game. Norwood is cheaper too. Meanwhile, I don’t see the Atlanta crowd any less patient than Oakland’s so I see them investing in their franchise QB. That is, unless they find a taker for Norwood for at least a mid round 2nd, in which case they might then go DMac and take one of the second tier QBs a bit later.
#4 — I can’t see NE trading up no matter what the case. It’s not their M.O. to pay that much for any one player. I see them either trading down for a ton this year or punking some other team for their first this year and next, or maybe this is the spot where Dallas gives up the pair of late firsts to get DMac. Even if they keep the pick, no way do they go offense. How many more points do they need to score per game? If they can get the top CB to replace Samuels or if, God forbid, Gholston is still there for them to give them a legit pass rush, they’ll pounce.
February 25th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
maddenraider
go back to raiders.net.oh i forgot you got booted off for the same dribble you say here day in and day out
—Is this true? What psychoanalyst do you see?
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maddenraider———–topic puppet master
February 25th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Dakota Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
MaddenRaiders,
So are you saying Jerry West is to the Lakers what Ron Wolf was to the Raiders? LOL.
The Lakers are 2-1 in the finals since Jerry West left us…
The Lakers have won 14 NBA Chamopionships, of which Jerry West was the GM of only 6 of them.
Get real my friend
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Where did I say that Jerry West was to the Lakers what Ron Wolf was to the Raiders? The Lakers have had many great minds that built championship teams throughout their franchise’s history. The Raiders have had only one: Ron Wolf.
The Lakers are 2-1 in Finals since West has left, with teams primarily built by whom? Jerry West, idiot. Get out of LA for a few days and let the smog clear out of your brain.
Kobe > Shaq = Jerry West. This is common basketball knowledge. 10 year old girl Laker fans know this, so what’s up with you?
February 25th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
I like a lot of the membership at Raiderfans.net. Good people, and I do miss them.
But BK and some of his mods absolutely turned that site into a bore. I’ve checked it out a few times since I’ve been banned, just to get a kick out of some of my old friends there, and I have to tell you that aside from them, that place is about as exciting as a funeral parlor.
If you’re a member there, sorry you missed the glory days. If you’re a mod, or BK himself, kill yourself, and be a cop in your next live, already.
February 25th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
I don’t think you get it. You have a bunch of people here criticizing a blog while practically living here, like the bums you see under the freeway. Do you not see the irony in that? If not, then it’s you who needs the sense of humor.
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stay on topic puppet master—-go back to raiders.net
February 25th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
tom flores Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
I am back just to ask those who love and or hate Rob Ryan what they make of hsi statement on Nfl Network whilst having a haircut.
This is not an excat quote mind you…but
what I heard was …”we have Jamarcus Russell, we have Fargas and we have a good defense.”
Is he joking Raider Nation ? WE ranked near the bottom of the NFL on defense and he thinks that GOOD ??? I for one think perhaps Rob Ryan is the problem after all…his perception that we ahave a good D scares me. What does a bad D look like ?
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Wow!
See what happens when you just open your mind up to the reality of this team’s turmoil? All of a sudden you start making good points! Beats the brain farts flying out of you at a machine gun rate when you’re feebly slaving away at ridding the blog of Davis critics.
February 25th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Jerry, since your not going to tell us about your conversation with Kiffin, is he a good dancer ?
February 25th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
What was interesting on the Ryan comment (since you brought it back up through that quote MR) was the way he said it and the order he named the “good things” in. JaMarcus came right off the top of his head. He thought for a second and then said “we have Fargas”. Another pause and you could see that he realized he mentioned two offensive guys first, then he just sorta threw out there “and we have a good defense.”
I know that his style is casual and all, but I would have sure wanted to here a more passionate D-coord say, “We’ve got the best corner in the game. We’ve got two of the best young LBs. AND we’ve got JaMarcus and Fargas on offense.”
You know, focused on his side of the ball first.
Instead, it came off as if he himself didn’t believe in the defense. Which has me thinking that it’s crystal clear in Raider Land that they are going defense, defense, defense in the draft and his head is on the potential new Raiders and not last season’s lineup on D. That might also explain Kiffin’s apparent lack of enthusiasm at the combine either given his focus on the offensive side. It doesn’t look like he’s expecting any shiny new toys this year.
Maybe I’m reading way too much into this and jumping to concluions, but I find it encouraging to think that this is the direction that they are going to follow. I think that we are going to see a DE and DT in rounds 1 and 2 and then it’ll be up to Cable to find a diamond in the rough for his ZBS in the later rounds.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:00 am
Kiffin’s part of the hyphy generation, Mistabrown. Of course he can dance.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:02 am
Excellent article from Ann Killion:
http://www.mercurynews.com/portal/ci_8362708?_loopback=1&nclick_check=1
Includes the paragraph:
“The RTB (Raiders True Believers) insist that this all is an invention of the media. They flood blogs with assurances that everything is fantastic in the Nation, ignoring the reality: where there is silver-and-black smoke, there’s usually a fire that destroys entire seasons. The people the Raiders like to dub “false rumor-mongerers” are usually accurate in their reporting.”
Essential reading. This site is getting clogged with RTBs in complete denial about the state of the Raiders. Al Davis has long since destroyed his own reputation. He is now close to destroying the Raiders.
Those of us that passionately care about the Raiders will keep fighting, will keep telling the horrible truth until real change is visited on Alameda. We’re not fools or media junkies. The only fools on this site are the ones that don’t recognise that Al Davis is the cancer at the heart of this football club.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:19 am
Zymurge, Ryan saying his defense is good under any context just shows how crazy he is. Tom Flores (our TF, not the real one) nailed it in the post I pasted above.
Our defense hasn’t been able to stop the run since the Howie Long days.
Our coverages have always been a play behind. We’ve had sparks of success with Willie Shaw’s raw talent in the secondary (RIP, ET), Breshnehan’s kamikaze blitzing schemes (Brady’s fumble), we had some sound play when Fox was here, before he quit mid season after a meeting with Al, but overall, since our franchises golden years ended in about the mid ’80s our defense has just smelled like a spoiled rotten egg sitting in the trash in 90 degree weather.
What Rob Ryan brings to this team is MORE OF THE SAME. He’s brought nothing new. We do NOT have great players. We have good players. Namdi, our linebackers. But even they are not pro bowlers. They aren’t. They all tend to dog it. Some of it may just be because they don’t practice hard enough. That’s another reason we need a real defensive coordinator.
We had a decent rank in ‘06, due only to opposing offenses sitting on their leads, knowing our offensive “air attack”, cooked up by AL DAVIS, Tom Walsh, and Art Shell, was no comeback threat.
Our defense sucks, and it’s part and parcel of Al’s philosophy. 11 on 11, in a league in which the best teams live and die by deception and creating mismatches. He’s out of touch, his defense is yet another shining example of it. Poor Kiffin tried to change it, he was stonewalled, he’ll be gone for that very reason, as soon as his contract’s up. Count on it. Al blew it again.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:32 am
Good post MaddenR.
I am at a loss to understand our defensive scheme. We have a four man rush….and thats it. Opponents know that if they double team Burgess and close the gaps between Center and Guard, then the Raiders carry no threat. It must be the easiest week of the season for any DC preparing for the Raiders.
And the worst thing…apart from the technical mistakes and the lack of any imagination…is that we have a lot of talented athletes who could be very effective in a different scheme.
Morrison, Howard, Williams, Thomas, Routt and Huff would all excel in a Tampa2 type system. They have the speed and athleticism to thrive in the zone but they don’t have the physicality to handle the man2man. Now we are trying to trade Huff for a mid-round pick. How dumb is that?
Good news for Huff. He could get to the proBowl if he was playing FS for Lane’s father.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:48 am
Agree Scottish, lots of Raider apologists out there flooding the blogs. There can’t be fan dissent before the season tickets are gone. Interesting enough, one SURE way to come out and put out the fire is for Davis himself to come out in public and back his coach. He can’t have Herrera or whoever else is his fetch guy these days do it, he has to in order to give it some weight. He won’t and the allegations will smolder until we have the truth and Davis is not very patient so I suspect if he wants him gone it will be before the season starts, I don’t think Al can wait until his contract expires.
On the draft, we all know Al will take the best physical prize in the draft as if it were only some state fair prize pig contest we are dealing with. If we didn’t require a brain and some football instinct and heart, there would be dogs out there playing. Run fast and jump, good boy here’s your treat. My guess is McFadden if he’s on the board or Gholston. He is regressing in his draft philosophy and that is to pick the Dudleys, Jetts, and Russells (Darrell). Work out warriors, speed demons and problem childs because the ones he was suposed to pick haven’t worked out see Gallery, Grove, Stenchcomb, Huff, Brayton, Harris and Buchanon etc…
Nothing to see here folks keep moving.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:28 am
HEY DESERT RAIDER ! your previous post u said to bad long is not a def tackle!! cause that i what we need!!
well just so you know in the ” ROBRYAN BIZZARO WORLD”
OF coaching , ANYONE CAN BE A DEF TACKLE! tom kelly,john richardson, brayton,etc! that guy turns safteys to MLBRS IN ROOKIE YEAR!,
FREE SAFETYS’INTO STRONG SAFTEYS’IN ROOKIE YEARS!!
NOW A LITTLE TECHNIACALITY LIKE C-LONG PLAYING S.D.E.@ COLLEGE,
ISNT GONNA DETER RYAN FROM TRYING HIS
” CREATIVE GENIOUS” ON THIS GUY!!
UUHM LETS SEE WHAT can HE DO WITH LONG??
i’m thinking like ryan,WOW POOR GUY a diSfunctional child HE IS !, to get into ryans head !!!he cant have burgess’s spot “cause its’a “mismatchW/ THE PASS RUSH!”
so lets see log,center,rog there big & slow rite! so LONG IS BIG & FAST !
“LETS PUT LONG @ NOSE TACKLE OVER THE
CENTER “CAUSE IT BE A MISMATCH”
“LONGS’SPEED VS A SLOW CENTER,LONG CAN DANCE
ALL AROUND HIM”"
THEN ” 2-3 YEARS DOWN ROAD” ” HELL!
WE CAN ALWAYS GET BACK TO PLAYING LONG AT HIS NATURAL POSITION
“MIDDLE LINE BACKER!”"
HELL!!!
HELL OR EVEN OLBR VS THE PASS CAUSE HE’S TALL,
THATS A MIMACTH VS THE QB”!!!
“”THAT WHY U DONT NEED A PASS RUSH, U WAIT TILL THE THROW THEN TRY TO DEFLECT IT!!! THAT IS WHAT A DEF LINEMEN IS SUPPOSED TO DO!!! “THATS WHY RYAN INSISTS,WE GOT A GOOD DEFENSE!THEY WAIT TILL THE CATCH TILL THE RUN ,THILL AFTER THE THROW B4 THEY REACT!!AND “THATS A MISMATCH”
February 26th, 2008 at 3:40 am
YA KNOW , waht kills me ive been pointing out to all simce 2005 that this ryan guy is a bad coach &
has no place here! & with him here we will keep going thru headcoaches every 1-2yrs, i also pointed why, tacticaly & as well mentaly !
and for those 3 years all u ” RYAN GROPUIES”
February 26th, 2008 at 4:04 am
YA KNOW , waht kills me ive been pointing out to all simce 2005 that this ryan guy is a bad coach &
has no place here! & with him here we will keep going thru headcoaches every 1-2yrs, i also pointed why, tacticaly & as well mentaly !
and for those 3 years all u ” RYAN GROPUIES” did was claim that i & anylone like me was wrong didnt & didnt knwo what the f i was talking about!!
” NOW AS”H”LES !!!
LOOKS LIKE I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG !!!! I AM 4 YEARS SMARTER THEN ALL OF YOU DOPES ON SIMPLE ISSSUES’LIKE ROBRYAN,
I AM THEN 10 FOLD SMARTER ON ANYHTING THAT WILL TAKE CREATIVITY”LIKE PUSH BLITZING” !!
SO LETS SEE IT TOOK ABOUT HALF OF YOU 3 + YEARS TO FIGURE OUT THAT OUR DEFENSE IS BAD EVERY YEAR,DUE TO COACHING , NOT THE PLAYERS!!BUT LIKE DISFUNCTIONAL LITTLE CHILDREN YOU ARE STILL NOT SURE!!!U DONT WHY!!
WELL ONCE AGAIN I’LL GIVE U A LITTLE DOSE ,
WELL VS THR RUN THE TRIO OF
BURGESS 250LB,@ S.D.E ,
SUPPORTED BY A PASS RUSHR IN WILLIAMS @ SOLBR!
SUPPORTED BY A ‘FLUID LONG STRIDER/GLIDER IN HUFF!!@ STRONG SAFETY !! JUST SIMPLY NEVER COULD WORK ON PAPER OR ON FIELD!!! ANY ONE WITH A” FULLY DEVELOPED BRAIN ”
WOULD KNOW THIS !!! NOW ALL U “RYAN GROUPIES” -
RAIDER DELL, HENDRICKS,RAIDERS420, MADDENR RAIDER, HUFF24, ETC U KNOW WHO YOU ARE!! FOR ANY OF YOU PEOPLE TO NOW IN 2008 TRY TO SLAM RYAN,AFETR ALL THOSE YEARS YOUVE SLAMMED US RYAN DENOUNCERS !!!!
YOU ARE NOW STUCK WITH “THE ROBRYAN” FOR LIFE!
IVE SAID EVERY POST SINCE DAY 1 ,
I WILL START RELEASING ON THIS BLOG ALL THE
NAMES OF ANYONE THAT HAS 1 TIME OR ANOTHER DEFENDED RYAN, OR ATTACKED ME OR MY PEOPLE OVER THAT
FAT P.O.S.!!
! THIS AINT GONNA BE PRETTY , MOST OF YOU WILL RUN ! BUT U CANT HIDE! HEY I WARNED U THEN!! I SAID IT !! I WAS RITE THEN , I AM RITE NOW !!
I WILL CONTINUE TO BE RITE ” ALL THE TIME ”
YA KNOW WHY , I DONT MAKE MY DECISIONS BASE ON WHAT I THINK A COACH OR A PLAYERS SHOULD LOOK LIKE! I LET PRODUCTION / ABILTY / ATTITUDE DO THAT!FOR ME!!
NOW W/ RYAN IF ALL U DOPES ,SUBSCRIBED TO THAT NTELLIGENTPHILOSPHY SINCE 04,
WE’D ALL HAVE HIM GONE@ END OF 2005,AND WE’D BE RECOVERING FROM OUR 4TH OR 5TH SUPER BOWL VICTORY HIGH RITE ABOUT NOW!!!
JSUT REMEMEBER YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE AT GREATNESS!AND WHAT DID U DO! U HAD THE ANSWER PROVIDED BY ME 3 YEARS NOW! AND INSTEAD OF LISTENING U COMPALINED ABOUT CAPLOCKS!! GRAMMAR!!!AND TALKED OUT OF BUTTS!!!EVERY ONE OF YOUS!!!
SO NOW YOU HAVE RYAN !! & YOU DONT WANT HIM!!! TO BAD!!!HERE HE IS !!!!!!!!!!!”HELL I’lL PLAY TED WASHINGTON @ LBR IF I THOUGHT IT HELP!”"” AND THAT WASNT ENUFF FOR U !!!
OH THATS RITE HE LOOKS GRITTY!!, YA KNOW THE BELLY, THE F’D HAIR DRUGGED OUT LOOK!!! RITE THATS WHAT U SCUMBAGS THINK A RAIDER LOOKS LIKE!!GET THE F’ OUTTA HERE!!!! O.K.!!!!
BUT ANYWAY YOU ARE STUCK NOW!! ANOTHER 3-4 WIN YEAR!!!
February 26th, 2008 at 4:09 am
*Sigh*
February 26th, 2008 at 4:31 am
LMN, you made me laugh here in the early hours.
*Sigh*
February 26th, 2008 at 4:54 am
Hey M…
February 26th, 2008 at 4:56 am
While we do have the LB and DBs for the Tampa2, what we lack is the base of that system a dominant front 4. That is the foundation the system is built upon.
No matter what system is in place the Raiders need to invest in some talent up front.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:56 am
I’m about to watch ‘Day 2 of the combine’
there a pretty deep group of TE’s this year, for a long time I’ve been looking for TE’s, when we got Zach I was so excited. But this years group is very talented. Which pisses me a bit off :/
February 26th, 2008 at 5:15 am
Jerry Jerry Jerry. Ok first thanks for the updates, of course. But I am stuck on your conversation with Kiffin. I get that his specific comments are off the record. I get that you can’t tell us what if any comments he had about all the specific rumors. But it is not a matter of “on” or “off” the record to at least clear one thing up: is he going to be our coach for 2008? Surely that came up? It wouldn’t be a matter of citing his opinions, commentary, much less quoting him on anything. This would merely be your inside read having spoken to assorted key people. So, um, what’s your read? It seems to me that almost all our other discussions are beside the point until we know the answer to this. (although there really is some insightful commentary regarding defensive issues above …). Still, please advise.
Signed,
Buried-in-snow-storm-in-NC-mountains-and-yet-obsessing-about-Raider-news.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:22 am
Scottish that link is dead and Ann Killion does not qualify as “Essential reading” try Ghost Rider from Neil Peart.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:39 am
So , the big news is Ryan got a haircut? And Kiffin smokes cigars and can dance? Does his wife know?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:46 am
let me tell you that the Miami Dolphins are not going to trade down their first round pick. The reason is they already have 2 first round picks. Because New England forfeited their late first round pick that means the Dolphins get to pick at 32 cause they are in their are only 31 picks this year for the draft. They have the first and the last pick in the first round. Not a bad situation For BILL PARCELLS. and if they do they will have dallas trade for their 2 picks this year. they will even have 3 first round picks. that will turn around a team pretty fast. 3 first round picks that great.
But lets talk about our OAK Raiders for a second. Let me tell you that we should go with Jake LONG. If he is available. Yeah this might sound crazy but i think he will not be a bust for the Nation. This is the only way that JR will be able realize his true potential. Also if we have someone like him blocking the left side maybe we could see Fargas unlock his true potential. This guy will have Fargas run to day light. He will fit into CABLES ZONE blocking scheme. Him and Gallery on the left side will be huge. Gallery works hard and does not complain. He will show his effectiveness at LG this coming season. IF Gallery and Jake long block it will give JR the time needed in the pocket to launch the cannon. I really think the that HIGGINS will be pretty good next year. His speed will be more than enough to beat the secondary and catch that 70 yrd bomb pass from JR. WE NEED a WR BAD I mean BAD. I repeat WR WR WR we dont have that big play threat
NOW on the DEFENSE IN the second round we should go DT. WE need a run stuffing interior lineman. I really feel that our DE will be more than enough to handle russhing the QB. Last year we had too many finesse pass rushers and SANDs just did not cut it. Lets go after that RB that tears our defense up. Not to mention the TIME of Posession. WE need a safety that could hit and i mean hit hard where is he we need him OUR DIVISION is full of RB’s that run all over our D. WHERE is he come save the nation and lay a hit on LT LR AND TH. THEY always have good days on us there is no one to hit them and hit them hard. RONNIE LOTT please teach one of these safeties how to hit and hit them hard.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:47 am
Here is the right link:
http://www.mercurynews.com/raidersheadlines/ci_8365640
Unfortunally Mistabrown, Rush is like Davis: as time past it becomes awfull. I need to go back to their 80’s to hear something good. Very few god things till Signals.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:52 am
I like these 2 guys:
DE Chris Long, Virginia
This blue-chip defender ran excellent 4.71 and 4.77 times with a 34-inch vertical leap. His agility drill numbers were equal to any linebacker in an excellent showing. His overall effort was one of the best of the event. He did not lift, but will at the Virginia pro day.
DE/LB Cliff Avril, Purdue
Classic defensive “tweener” hopes to follow the Purdue tradition of turning out top edge pass rushers. He ran fine 4.51 and 4.56 times at 253 pound. He also turned in a very strong 6.91 three cone drill in addition to a 9′2″ broad jump and 17 reps in the 225-pound bench press.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:54 am
Hey Cali-to-Texas, what city in Cali did you move from and where in Texas did you move too? I am also a recent transplant from Cali to Texas.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:59 am
Suspect J makes some good points especially when it comes to needing receivers. But in my opinion, James Hardy 6′6″ 225 lbs from Indiana will be available in the 2nd and the Raiders should take a d-end in the 1st by way of either:
DE Chris Long, Virginia
This blue-chip defender ran excellent 4.71 and 4.77 times with a 34-inch vertical leap. His agility drill numbers were equal to any linebacker in an excellent showing. His overall effort was one of the best of the event. He did not lift, but will at the Virginia pro day.
DE/LB Cliff Avril, Purdue
Classic defensive “tweener” hopes to follow the Purdue tradition of turning out top edge pass rushers. He ran fine 4.51 and 4.56 times at 253 pound. He also turned in a very strong 6.91 three cone drill in addition to a 9′2″ broad jump and 17 reps in the 225-pound bench press.
I’ve been paying attention to what has been going on at the combine and these guys will be big time impact players, ready to start and make contributions.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:01 am
LETS PUT LONG AT LTackle
February 26th, 2008 at 6:03 am
Bigfoot, their last 2 Cd’s are very good specially snakes & arrows. Weird how they are selling out stadiums in Europe, Brasil and in the states.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:07 am
“Rob Ryan after his haircut broke down game film on Vernon Gholston with is brother Rex. The twins are putting their heads together to figure out a way to reduce Vernons sack production when he becomes a Raider.
Brayton like numbers is what Ryan is shooting for (41 games without a sack).”
Adam Schefter
February 26th, 2008 at 6:15 am
Football games are won along the lines. WE need a solid offensive and defensive line to compete in the NFL. Every one saw the SBowl a awesome show of force on the defensive side of the ball on both teams. Both NE and NY had great lines on both sides of the ball. That mainly one of the reasons why the traitor Randy MOSS had such a great season. BUT he is not better than J RICE. he had 22 TD catches in less games than MOSS did. This DRAFT should focus on the lines this year. BUT lets not forget about RUN DMC his 40 is impressing. AL will not let him pass if he is available we need that guy. DMC and JR will give the RAIDER NATION A good 6 year stretch to make it to the PLAYOFFS AND eventually the SUPER BOWL. lets talk PLAYACTION PASS all day. LETS FACE it LTomlinson is hittin his 8th season. HE showed that he could not stay healthy to finish the play offs. IF he was healthy they would of actually went to the SBowl.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:24 am
Top 3 after the combine.
1- Vernon Gholston
2- Chris Long
3- Darren (Dwight) McFadden
Losers of the combine
1- Sedrick Ellis
2- Glenn Dorsey
Funny how all you experts in here are going to have to back peddle out of your rock solid predictions & assessments.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:26 am
THE CHARGERS although good they are not great. they have a good team but they do not have a SBOWL team. the RAIDERS built teams that go to the SUPER BOWL not teams that go to the playoffs.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:38 am
Naahh Mistabrown, “selling out stadiums in Europe, Brasil” just smoke ! like Raiders PR dept. I live in Europe, nobody at their confidential concerts. Brasil : 1 unique concert in Rio. Since hold your fire nothing really interesting.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:44 am
This is all taking too long. The combine, the draft, all complete crap-shoots. Hopefully a talent like Dorsey is available when we select. If not we should use the pick in a deal for an impact FA to fill a need. FA is the key to the Raiders returning to greatness. Depending on college hopefuls and marginally talented players is not going to get us back to the Super Bowl.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:48 am
Hopefully, Big AL will get back to his wheeling dealing ways and brings some talent to the current talent depleted roster.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:53 am
I’m starting to think that Gholston is a little overrated, being that a lot that comes out of the BIG 10 is overrated, and Dorsey scares me. Question: Do any of you all go back and read any articles from last year, bowl season, etc. or do you just go to these draft boards to analyze who is the best player for the team to pick> If you go back and do a little research, it’s clear ELLIS has to be the guy.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:57 am
Ellis’ assesment of his fellow DT, who won most of the awards Ellis was up for:”He is very good going straight up the field. He causes a lot of disruption, but I feel I’m better moving laterally and going side to side.”
POINT: Ellis is a playmaker, while Dorsey is the 2008 version of Gerard Warren. The team needs activity on the line, not someone just rushing the QB.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:01 am
have you ever played foot ball with your friends at SCHOOL? well i have and every time it comes down to choosing who will be on their team the captains always pick the best player available.
then so on ans so on. IF MCFADDEN is there we should get him FARGAS is in his 6th season ans lets face it he is about at the end of his shelf life for RBs. MCFADDEN is fresh blood. he could be good in many ways. THE running back position is a versitle position. THink of it we get a RB/WR in one pick. wwhat about this situation. when the defense has to adjust they only have two corners out there defending the WRs. JR motions RUN DMC out in the slot and a SS or LB has to man up on him. A CLEAR mismatch. ESPECIALLY with his SPEED all the LBS will have problems. whos gonna blitz a extra LB when they have to worry about MCFADDEN all day. JR will have a field day with secondaries. MCFADDEN has the heart of a RAIDER. TWO stars in the back field. MCFADDEN will take the heat off JR. DEFENSES will have to worry about pass defense and run defense all in one play that gets confusing and confusion an the defensive side puts the offense in a great position to score. THE OFFENSE will control the tempo of the game next season if we get MCFADDEN. 6′2″ 212 RB/WR material dont you think? A true I would like to here if anyone objects to my comment?
February 26th, 2008 at 7:49 am
Jerry, the 40 caveat is not relevant when someone runs a 4.27 and then a 4.33, he is fast. He would be fast on any track with any clock.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:51 am
i wrote this last night in discussing Corey Williams…
i denied the possibility of the Packers tagging him right up to the time they tagged him…
i’m not saying don’t take a DT… i’m saying mauling defensive ends are rare enough to command the big bucks…
and if you have to spend big bucks, (which the No 4 draft pick is) it ought to be at a position that commands big bucks…
a “tagged” DT (Williams) is gonna get the average of the top five at the position… anpit 5 million…
a “tagged” defensive end would get about 9 million…
i say Chris Long, if he is there…
Vernon Gholston if he isn’t…
February 26th, 2008 at 7:53 am
Honestly Jerry, I love your blog but today I feel like you are talking down to us like we are idiots, we all understand that it takes more than great combine numbers to make it in the NFL.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:58 am
I agree Florida Pete, besides I can’t see Mr Davis passing up Chris Long in any instance. suspect j makes sense except a #1 pick for an offensive player? Did you see our defense last 3yrs? I’ve said over & again with the one cut run offense we now have ANY RB will excel. I live in Denver & have seen 1st hand that the Donkeys go thru 7 RBs that make 1000yds yearly. It would be criminal not to pick for defense.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:59 am
Anybody else see that fat idiot Rob Ryan get his Mullet chopped on the NFL Network?
February 26th, 2008 at 8:04 am
from Todd McShay:
The top two defensive ends, Virginia’s Chris Long and Ohio State’s Vernon Gholston, cashed in at this year’s NFL scouting combine.
The position-specific drills were where Long did his best work, showing outstanding body control, fluid hips and sound technique. While Long’s 40-yard dash time of 4.78 seconds is hardly jaw-dropping, it is competitive for a 6-foot-3, 272-pound end, especially considering his 10-yard split was among the best at his position. Long’s 34-inch vertical and 10-feet-4-inch broad jumps also ranked among the top-three defensive linemen.
While Long is the better all-around prospect, Gholston unquestionably turned in the most spectacular overall combine workout on Monday, including all defensive linemen and linebackers.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:07 am
Dorsey is best choice. C.Long might be the right pick to sell some tickets, but he does fill a need position nor is he a freak. Most likely Long will be a DE. He’s a little small for DT. Ellis will be a decent pro, but Dorsey will be better pro just as he was the better college player. We need talent in a bad way. And at #4 overall, that player needs to make an immediate impact. That guy would be G.Dorsey.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:12 am
No one would see me crying if we picked up G.Dorsey, C.Long, Vernon Gholston, or even Ellis. All would be immediate impact players but I still can’t see Al Davis passing C Long in this millenium.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Anyone saw Josh Barrett from ASU run a 4.37 (I think, less than 4.40 for sure) 40?.
I don´t have his combine measurements but he´s supposed to be about 6´2 230…
Of course, memories of Patrick Bates and Derrick Gibson are scary but still someone to keep in mind.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Did you guys get a load of RR’s gut? His liver must be about 75 pounds!
February 26th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Rob Ryan’s Pickled Liver,
you don’t know how much you weigh?
February 26th, 2008 at 8:23 am
You know why Jerry didnt tell you about the conversation with kiff is because there was no conversation, we are just putting our trust in sports writers that need to make a buck just like everyone else, and when there is nothing to write thats when all the bullshit comes up and gets all you guy all fired up. You watch kiff will be coaching next season and all will be well in raider land until someone makes up more bullshit. Half the crap they write is speculation and some just made up.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:24 am
75.3 Lb liver. And proud of it!
February 26th, 2008 at 8:27 am
I think the combine has opened up more posibilities for us. It seems to me we in here, were limited to get either Dorsey or Ellis before the combine.
But now, some the McFadden doubters, myself included, are again open to selecting him. Gholston is now a viable option as well. And even Jake Long is getting some love.
And we´re still 2 months away, lots can happen in pro day´s and free agency.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Last year the Bucs chose Gaines Adams DE with their No 4 pick. He signed a six year deal with the Buccaneers on July 26th 2007 worth $46 million, with $18.6 million guaranteed.
Now Richard Seymour, DT, NE Patriots, Four time Pro-bowler…
Several league sources said the extension is for four years, through the 2010 season, and worth about $30 million, which would make Seymour one of the highest-paid defenders in the league, regardless of position.
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so we want a DT at No 4… and we would be obligated to pay in the neighborhood of 19 million in guaranteed money, 47 million total for a DT…
right now the best DT in the league makes 7.5M a year (avg)… the top five for the DT position is about 5M/yr…
right now the avg top five at DE is about 9M/yr…
February 26th, 2008 at 8:36 am
Joshua Barrett S ASU 6′1″+, 215+, ran 4.33
This guy would be a steal at the top of the second round. He’s a PAC 10 guy. Big and fast , hard hitting safety. Known as a physical in the box presence.
Also Trevor Laws NT out of Notre Dame is a beast. Also a ateal in the second round.
Rodgers-Cromartie 6′1″+ CB just ran a 4.28! This guy is Nnamdi’s size with Fabian’s speed!! Maybe Late first round, early second round?
Maybe trading down for more picks would’t be a bad idea?
February 26th, 2008 at 8:37 am
This draft class is looking better and better to me!
February 26th, 2008 at 8:41 am
I used to think being a Raiders fan meant being pissed off/annoyed 17 weeks out of the year, and optimistic for 4 (the pre-season where we look awesome), and then you can forget them for the other 31.
But now with all the crap over the last few months being a Raiders fan now means being miserable 52 weeks out of the year. Luckily we have the Warriors to keep us entertained for a while, but once baseball season comes around and the A’s will be fighting for the bottom spot in the AL West, it’ll be a long, long summer and an even longer fall.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:42 am
Tien,
Sorry, the Warriors stink…Lakers rule, lol.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Does anyone know what the Broncos are offering the Lions for Shaun Rogers?
February 26th, 2008 at 8:50 am
75.3 Lb liver
Damn, you must have a liver of your own.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Aqui Talib from Kansas DB, 4.48 forty nice vertical jump, nice height another late first rounder or early second.
Watching Deion Sanders in the past, I always thought he used pure speed and athletisim to defend.
Since he’s been on the NFL Network he is impressive with the little things that you must do to be successful in the league, when speaking about playing DB.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:59 am
i will be furious if denver gets rogers. we should be talking to free agents and tryiing to improve our need spots like every other team. It is too risky to have a rookie just jump in at a need spot, they have to be filled in free agency so the rookies have some desent players to take examples from. you cant just throw a rookie to the wolves at any position, you have to ease them into the starting role. Why does Al Davis have to wait untill the last minute to do everything. Every team is talking to free agents except for us. That is rediculous. There are sme great players out there that could instantly improve this team on both sides of the ball. Rogers from Det.(DT) Jenkins from ATL (DT) Briggs from CHI (LB) Berrian from CHI (WR) not to mention Chad Johnson all but screaming for a trade out of Cinci. MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS AL!!! What are you waiting for?
February 26th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Dakota,
I heard that the Broncos are offering a 3rd round draft choice and the Lions want a 2nd round or a combination of picks.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Watch out, C$ is going to blow!
February 26th, 2008 at 9:03 am
Shoot, I meant C4…darned shift key.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:05 am
Donkeyland, where free agent DT’s go to underperform.
Any of you wondering what Jerry and Lane chatted about off the record, just pay attention to what Mr. McDonald DOESN’T write about over the upcoming weeks and months and you should get some idea of their talk.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:06 am
BTW, good morning Nation.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:08 am
Tuck,
I don’t think the Raiders are in a position to match that sort of offer, do you? I would like to see us pick up Rogers or CJ etc., but we are not working with a full compliment of draft picks this year so our hands are tied when it comes to trades…unless we can convince a team to trade for some of our junk players…not likely. We are going to have to fix our problems via free agency and hope that some of last years picks can start contributing. Hopefully we handle this year’s crop of picks a little better so that we can have some of them contributing from game one on.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:08 am
“With several top quality restaurants and brew pubs within walking distance in downtown Indianapolis, it’s always an amusing sight to see so many head coaches and assistants ducking into the corner “Steak and Shake” for one of those regrettable late-night feasts.
Also, Rob Ryan has been seen brown-bagging 40’s of Olde English…a fine Malt Liquor”
February 26th, 2008 at 9:09 am
RaiderTW….agreed. Any of these top players should do for the position we draft them. I still think that we need the NFL to put a salary cap on all rookies and let them earn the big money before they bankrupt our game. Give the big bucks to the “All Pros”.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:10 am
Dakota,
I agree with you….We are not in a position to make an offer with picks this year and I don’t think they would take any of our junk players….
Go Kings!!! lol
February 26th, 2008 at 9:10 am
We need to forget about the draft for a few minutes and get some the proven talent that is on the market right now. Free agncy is what will return this team to greatness, not waiting around for rookie projects to pan out. However, I am not so naive as to think some more talented defenders would solve everything. We need a better scheme than a sandlot football aproach. THIS IS THE NFL ROB, WAKE UP! Even when i play sanlot football with my friends we have a more complex Defensive scheme, you know…count 5 aligators, then blitz. Once again Ryan, this is the NFL. It’s OK to blitz once in a while, in fact it’s encouraged, and if you can believe it, YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO COUNT ALIGATORS!! Also on the sandlot field, if someone is getting burned or beat by a reciever, we will often do something crazy …like DOUBLE HIM. You dont have to play man to man every single freaking down. I say again WAKE UP ROB!!!THIS IS THE NFL!
February 26th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Tuck,
Sacramento Kings? Sorry bro, I bet you hate the Lakers!
February 26th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Jags got Troy Williamson from the Viqueens for a 6th round pick.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Dakota,
Yup I sure do but I sure miss those days when we battled in the playoffs. especially 2002. But gotta hand it to the Lakers they pulled off an awesome deal to get gasol…sorry enough b-ball talk.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Considering his time in the 40 of 4.24 (one upping Run DMC), and Al’s love for speed (not the drug although that might explain a few things), I decided to look a little closer at Chris Johnson….IMHO this guys gonna be a stud for whichever team picks him. His highlights on youtube are pretty impressive. And he would fit very well into Cables ZB scheme. If the Raiders could pick him up in the 2nd or 3rd rd. that would be awesome!
February 26th, 2008 at 9:19 am
Rob Ryan’s choice of Beverage:
http://www.bov.ch/labels/USA/usa-miller-olde-english-800.jpg
In a brown bag…of course.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:19 am
What do you think about that Williamson trade Dakota? I think the Vikings ripped themselves off. Williamson is a solid player and pretty fast.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:22 am
I wouldn’t have minded seeing Williamson in the S&B but, as Burqu Raider pointed out, it may be a different kind of speed that Al is partial to.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:25 am
C4,
Living in SD, I know a few Viqueens fans and they are disappointed in Williamson. He only has like 3 TDs in three seasons with the queens, and he caused some problems last year and was fined by the team…maybe they are lucky they got a 6th rounder for him, lol.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:27 am
James Jett was better than Troy Williamson!
February 26th, 2008 at 9:30 am
I dont pay any attention to the vikings i just remember him in the combine a few years back and he looked really good, but that doesn’t always mean much. However, in his defense, the vikings QB situation has been in about the same boat as ours since he got there.
I bet he does well in Jacksonville with DG slingin it to him…plus he kicks a%% in the Madden video game lol.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Then again, Troy didn’t exactly have the greatest QBs throwing to him the last two years did he? Maybe he will blossom with the Jags?
February 26th, 2008 at 9:32 am
Jett was better than TW, but TW is probably better than higgins, or Mcfoy, or what ever other clowns currently calling themselves Raiders recievers. With the exception of Curry of course. Curry is our only good reciever now that Porter hit the road.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:33 am
read my 95 above your 96 haha
February 26th, 2008 at 9:41 am
C4
Man, the WR spot scares me. I hope we find a way to sign a FA WR so we can concentrate on O-line and D-line in rounds one and two of the draft. Berrian and Bryant Johnson are two possibilities. Looks like Muhammad is going back to Carolina. DJ Hackett from Seattle is a possibility, but he certainly is not a #1 receiver. Same with Andre Davis, the WR from Houston…certainly not a #1 receiver.
Scary stuff if you ask me.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Dakota
from what I read about the combine there were lots of receivers of some quality but it was noted that none were top tier. Even among free agents there are few/none that would be considered #1 types. Still I’d take Bryant Johnson over the others.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:54 am
M,
I agree, Bryant Johnson would be nice. So would Berrian, but none of them are the answer. Looks like we might have to patch together a short-term solution and address the area in next year’s draft. I hope we don’t reach for a WR in round 2. I would like to see an OT picked in round 2. WR in Round 4? Maybe, but the likelyhood of him contributing next year is slim. I would rather see us draft a center in round 4, unless we sign Jeff Faine.
Man, it hurts not having that 3rd round pick…I sure as heck hope Mario Henderson turns out to be worth it!
February 26th, 2008 at 9:56 am
If the Raiders have the chance to get D-Mac and decide to pass on him, they will regret it for a long time!! That guy would have made the difference last season!! We would have made the playoffs. IMO!!! Everyone says he has no moves!! I say…He does’nt need moves when you can run like the wind!!
February 26th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Hope James Lofton has his coach-em-up abilities in high gear to deal with whatever the WR roster looks like.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Troy Williamson has hands of stone. The Vikings were lucky to get anything for him, let alone a 6th round pick.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:03 am
RaiderGlory,
after reading some of Blackholepriest’s analysis of RB’s I’ve become intrigued by what he said about Chris Johnson(2nd round) far more than having the Silver and Black make McFadden’s child support payments
February 26th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Has James Lofton or Rob Ryan been named head coach yet? I have a bad feeling that RR will be HC…Al seems to have a man-crush on him.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Anyone else seen this yet…don’t kill the messanger.
http://origin.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_8365640
February 26th, 2008 at 10:09 am
messenger, sorry.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Chris Johnson is one of the best RB’s and the best WR in this draft.
watching the corners in this draft really makes me appreciate what we have at that position. Especially Nnamdi there’s no one close.
Even the safeties are very average. Josh Barrett in the 4th would be good value. Zbikowski is a 2nd rnder.
The only guy in this draft worth a top 5 pick is C. Long and J. long a top 10. As much as I like Gholston top5 is just too high.
Now I really wish we would trade down I just don’t feel good about picking that high.
There are some teams that are going to spend a lot of money and get average production and other teams spend a lot less and get great production. I would like to trade down to maybe the 13th -15th pick and get Clady. Or the 7th pick and get Ellis or Dorsey. I’d be glad to get C. Long at 4.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:12 am
yeah, the killion article is linked into the Oaktribune page.
different matter: does anyone know how to find out who kiffin’s agent is?
February 26th, 2008 at 10:16 am
i see no sense whatsoever spending top 10 $$ on a running back given what we have already, our ’system’, & our more glaring needs on off & especially def.
here is an article about what we might have to expect from ‘mac’(sry if its been done already)- http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7842686?MSNHPHMA
while this isnt what i call bad behavior, it is stupid this close to the draft. literally risking millions to go out & party with the homies instead of staying put at home..duh.
im also not saying his apparent stupidity has anything to do with his playing abilities, we know that doesnt always follow. but there is already some questions about that out there. im saying that mac just doesnt look like a good pkg deal for a top 5, maybe top 10 pk.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Blackholepriest, I recall you writing…you don’t know who I had to convince about C. Johnson…
Hope you have convinced the right people to add such a weapon to the arsenal.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:21 am
M,
Here is a couple of quotes from S.L. Post Dispatch about McFadden’s baby issue, looks like he probably is not the Daddy.
“…in January, a Little Rock woman filed a paternity suit against McFadden, seeking child support for her 4-month-old daughter.”
“I took a paternity test and it came back negative,” McFadden said Friday. “They wanted me to take another one.”
Sounds like he is dealing with a woman that wants to hit the baby lottery. McFadden’s stock should not drop just because he scored some tail in college, lol.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:22 am
Ann Killion is just trying to support a colleague ( Jerry McDonald ) because a cuple of guy’s in here jumped all over him including me.
No ne is saying that evrything just fine in the front office, but it’s certainly not what the media is making it out to be. Every time I see or hear a coach or scout any Raiders personnel I just don’t get this Oh! woe is me reaction. I see guy’s going about there jobs with some excitement and pep in their step.
If someone else sees something different please tell me. I’m sorry I just don’t see nor have I witnessed it personally. So whatever they are trying to get at. I’m not sure I agree.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:22 am
Ouch Dakota, that hurt…especially the last sentence.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:24 am
M, I’m on it, on a dialy basis trust me.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:24 am
I am sick and tired of defending Al Davis. Iv’e had it with him!! That STUPID old man is taking the Raiders Organization Backwards!! This is the time you will hear me complain about this embicile because during the season there is NO POINT!!! But I also wish he would have never hired Lame Kiffin!! The kid is way over his head!! Playing McClown can attest to that!! This team is in SHAMBLES!!! IMO!!
P.S…..Pick McFadden!! What the HELL!!!
February 26th, 2008 at 10:25 am
I have going to opening day for years now, along with at leat 2 other games per season and the trip to San Diego yearly. If Al Davis gets rid of Kiff and continues to make a JOKE of thr once prestigous Raiders I will begin to boycott the team. this is really hard for me as I grew up a Raiders fan. But it seems as Al Davis is not concerned about a quality product just himself battling the system. We probably won’t get any quality free agents. Does he not comprehend how New England runs their ship.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:25 am
I find it hard to believe all this is media hype as what Killion mentioned some of us have blogged.
The only reason: The raiders would have issued a formal statement addressing the rumors and for God sake what head coach at the combine kept such a low profile at the combine like Kiffen without sporting Raiders gear…its fn embarrassing!
February 26th, 2008 at 10:30 am
BHP:
Throughout this rumormongering mess I have believed that the media was exagerating the story to enhance itself and justify its existence, and I also believe that the Organization can’t and shouldn’t respond to every baseless rumor and innuendo that’s printed. And I was glad to see that things died down after the Senior bowl.
But even if all is good within the halls of the headquarters, the public perception does make a difference for rooks and free agents, and there has got to be a better and more definitive way to deal with all this gossip. I’m not saying a press conference with Rob, Lane and Al, is a great idea, but it might be time for Lane and the organization to address this stuff. And Al probably should sign on as well. I remain optimistic, but am concerned about it’s effect on recruits, un drafted rooks, and free agents.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:31 am
And by addressing it, i just mean a press release.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Al Davis is a fricken IDIOT!! But LAME Kiffin has to GO!! What the Hell is he doing going dancing!! Not wearing Raider Gear at the combine!! I dont know who looks like the biggest idiot here!! Al, Lame, or us for continueing to support this fricken JOKE of an organization!!! It’s PATHETIC!!!!
February 26th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Sorry for the NBA news, but Yao Ming is out for the SEASON with a stress fracture in his left foot. Just thought some of you Warrior fans might be interested.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Dakota,
Im sure Laker fans might feel o.k with that!! We play them a couple of times in the next month!! I think thats all she wrote for the ROCKETS!! I doubt McGrady can get them very far alone!! I feel bad for Yao!! But im sure there was no tears around the NBA when we lost Bynum!!
GO LAKERS!!!
February 26th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Fender52,
I believe Kiffin’s agent is Gary Uberstien.
Dakota,
That sucks about Yao I was pullin for adelman.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Taking McFadden with a top pick is a mistake:
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23343082/
If it is a mistake, then the Raiders are bound to pick him…
February 26th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Enjoy the day Nation, hasta mas tarde
February 26th, 2008 at 10:56 am
either al davis is getting demetia or there is a big problem in raiderland. killion had a very good point about perseption. & the bottom line is that perception is costing the raiders $$ & respect.
the raiders need to adrees the issues one way or the other, while i dont believe everything ive read, you combine that publicity with management/coaching staff actions/non actions & someting smells bad.
that bad smell will have an afect on revenues due to fans spending less $$ on the team across the board.
that bad smell will have an effect on signings – while i agree with the fact that $$ will bring in players, in most cases we will prolly end up paying more than more stable teams would for the same player & that we will attract players more of the ‘me 1st ,just give me my $$ & screw the rest’ mentality. i also believe there are some players that wont play for us. & u cant blame them. nobody outside of the org(& prolly quite a few within) knows what the hell is going on with the raiders. doesnt make for enviroment that says this is a team going to the playoffs soon or that it is an enviroment u want to be in – wich is a bottom line for quite a few players.
al has always been ‘media shy’ & likes t okeep his hand very close to his vest. while this has been mostly ok over the years, it is not a tenable situation rt now & is a slap in the face to the peeps that pay him, us. aall jmo:)
February 26th, 2008 at 10:57 am
wished we could edit after the fact. lol
February 26th, 2008 at 11:06 am
seems to me there are some poeple here who are ready to jump ship…
please jump…
February 26th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Yao Ming is sooo much more to the Rockets than Bynum is to the Lakers. The Rockets are screwed without him but the Lakers are fine without Bynum, even before the Gasol trade.
Dakota -
Thanks for the info. I upgraded my Dish package so I will get all of the Warriors games now.
I am still pulling for a playoff meeting between the Lakers and the Warriors. It will go 7 games and the Warriors will find a way. But like you said before, we shall see. You seem like a stand up guy that will take his lumps if his team loses, as am I, so I won’t be too hard on ya when it is all said and done.
I can’t speak for Mistabrown though, he may just ream you a new one!
February 26th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Come on Florida,
Some fans get really emotional, and they bash the team and Al Davis and the coaches and the players etc., but they do it because they love the Raiders. It does not mean they want to “jump ship”. After what we as fans have been through over the past 25 years, we should be allowed to have a short fuse when it comes to bad news and the Raiders, don’t you think? Isn’t it cathartic to blow off some steam about things that bother you? I say rip away Raider Nation. Fellow Raider fans here care more about you than Al Davis or the Raiders ever will.
I for one would never leave the Raiders, no matter what Al Davis does to them…I guess I am just too loyal.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:17 am
At 31 yrs, Kiffin has every right to go out and let off some steam. He did not disrespect the Raiders by getting a DUI,fighting in public or going to a strip joint and shooting anyone.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Dogg,
You are funny, Warriors in seven over the Lakers, lol. Good one…but I like your spirit.
But really, there are no easy first round matchups in the West. I guess if Houston limps into the playoffs without Yao, that would be a relatively easy matchup for the top teams, but I wouldn’t want to have to face the Warriors, Nuggets or Dallas in the first round.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Having chewed over all the Combine stats and video, I think that our best option is (if he’s still there) to draft………Jake Long.
Of all the top 6 guys, he is the one who took on the doubters, took the pressure and delivered. He was as strong as expected, quicker than expected and much more mobile than expected. Plus the fact that he projects himself as a very professional, sensible, diligent athlete. I have always thought he would make a proBowl RT, I now think he has a chance to make a proBowl LT……and he would certainly be an upgrade on Barry Sims.
I worry about Dorsey’s injury record and his ability to be as dominant in the pros. Chris Long is a tweener who is best suited to DE in a 3:4. Vernon Gholston has great physical upside but you worry about his concentration and determination.
If Jake Long has gone, and we can’t trade down, then Sedrick Ellis must be the pick. He’s so strong, so clever that he could play in the 4:3. He would be a low risk upgrade in a position of real need.
McFadden is great fun but we don’t need him. It would be a huge waste of money. There is no point paying a fortune for an RB in our system and we have to focus on the O and D Lines.
Jake Long for me.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:20 am
It’s one thing to rip away on your team, totally cool and acceptable if warranted. I think Florida Pete is referring to those bloggers that say “if this” or “if that” than “I am going to boycott the Raiders blah blah blah.”
Florida Pete -
Feel free to give the ship jumpers a little push, they will thank you later.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Dakota -
The way it’s shaping up the Warriors will probably be the 8th seed going against the #1 seed in the 1st round, which, no offense, I don’t think will be the Lakeshow.
If the 2 teams meet it would be deeper into the playoffs.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Florida Pete Says:
seems to me there are some poeple here who are ready to jump ship…
please jump…
—I agree, If you think Al Davis is the worst owner in the NFL go root for Dan Snyder’s team or Bidwell’s or Blanks, they all need suckers to buy their brand of bull$#!+ (this means you too, Maddenraider)
February 26th, 2008 at 11:27 am
All the discussion and speculation regarding Raiders draft prospects seems a mute point – afterall, what professional prospect (or veteran player for that matter) would want to work for an employer with the management culture of today’s Oakland Raiders?
As an Oakland native and lifelong fan who attended his first game at Frank Youell field in the mid-60’s, all the great games of the late 60’s and early 70’s, right up to the last game in the Coliseum before the team moved to Los Angeles; I can only express heartbreak and disappointment at what has befallen one the of greatest pro teams in history. I salute Al Davis for his years of success however, and sadly, today he exemplifies the Peter Principle: he has risen to, or aged into, a disasterous level of incompetancy. As the top executive of the Raiders he is responsible for the poor performance of his business and his employees.
If I were a pro prospect today, and a perspective employee of the Oakland Raiders I would advise my agent to do whatever is necessary to ensure that my employment is secured elsewhere.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Think about it. Al doesn’t want to be here in Oakland, he wants to return to L.A. The only way he can do that is to destroy this team through his bonehead moves, and the revolving door practice at Head Coach. He can say that we in Oakland did not support this team with sellouts and that gives him an out to move back to LA. It is time for him or others in the front office to realize that the NFL and LA does not want him back. Maybe it is time for the league to take back the franchise that he tool from the original owners.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Dogg,
We shall see. March 14-20th will go a long way toward establishing what see the Lakers are in the West. They play four straight road games at NO, Hou, Dal and Utah…
The rest of their schedule is pretty light with 16 home games and 6 away games.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:34 am
With such a deep class of running backs about to enter the league, the Raidas better draft run defense. Get Donte Stallworth if cheap enough and Dexter jackson in lower round if he’s still there.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Bob Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Think about it. Al doesn’t want to be here in Oakland, he wants to return to L.A. The only way he can do that is to destroy this team through his bonehead moves, and the revolving door practice at Head Coach. He can say that we in Oakland did not support this team with sellouts and that gives him an out to move back to LA. It is time for him or others in the front office to realize that the NFL and LA does not want him back. Maybe it is time for the league to take back the franchise that he tool from the original owners.
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uh, this isn’t a movie…
and these aren’t the Cleveland Indians…
if Al wanted to move the team to LA…
he would do so…
February 26th, 2008 at 11:36 am
i think people that make derogatory comments about other posters without defining who they mean r chknsht. if u got something to say to somebody then address him(them) pls.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:36 am
That was a great movie though.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Did you guys know that the Denver Media Group who owns these paper’s is trying to buy out over a 1,000 employees in the next week before they decide on lay offs.
Jerry, I appreciate your work and hope you’re able to avoid the blade and keep this post alive.
Good luck man!
Kinda crappy our Raider site is owned by some kooks in Denver…
February 26th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Bob,
Did AD ever sell the El Segundo training facility in SoCal. That would tell you if he wanted to go back to LaLa. I used to get removed even though I was there with Ethan Horton.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Who are you talking about specifically Mike2h, lol.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:41 am
No wonder Jerry couldn’t stay through the entire combine and that he had to sleep in the lobby…budget restraints…
Jerry, who can we e-mail to save your job? We will flood their inbox!
February 26th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Has it been established as fact that Kiffin sought the Arkansas job?
February 26th, 2008 at 11:50 am
WR need how do you guys feel about this Jordy Nelson.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8812700273720641018&q=jordy+nelson&total=65&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2
February 26th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Jake Long looked very impressive on the Bench Press.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:56 am
I really dislike mock drafts, but I think this guy has it really well thought out and might have it pegged. Credit to Donkey Punch at http://tinyurl.com/32o6pb (for full analysis):
1. Miami Dolphins: Chris Long-DE-Virginia
2. St Louis Rams: Jake Long-OT-Michigan
3. Atlanta Falcons: Glenn Dorsey-DT-LSU
4. Oakland Raiders: Vernon Gholston-DE-Ohio State
Jerry McDonald, Beat Reporter for Inside The Oakland Raiders, says he heard a Raiders scout say the following at the Combine when comparing the top defensive tackles available this year: “Dorsey. Hands down. He’s a top four pick no question while Ellis is a nice player but belongs in the top 15.”
Sportsline.com reports: “With the Raiders re-signing their leading rusher (Justin Fargas) from 2007 to a 3-year, $12 million contract, it is unlikely that they’ll spend their 1st round pick on Arkansas’ Darren McFadden.
Fact: The Raiders have invested a 1st round draft pick on a running back only twice in the past twenty five years…Marcus Allen and Napoleon Kaufman.
Raidersfan.net and InsideBayArea.com both have the following Al Davis quote posted: “When you draft high you should take a difference maker. You should look first to draft a quarterback, a left tackle, a cornerback or a defensive end. This year the players that fit that description are Chris Long, Jake Long and Vernon Gholston. We only registered 27 sacks last year and my motto is “the quarterback must go down! And he must go down hard!”
Summary: This pick is sure to shock you, but let’s look at these quotes. The McDonald quote would eliminate Sedrick Ellis. The Sportsline report along with the fact that Davis doesn’t usually draft running backs early, would eliminate McFadden. That leaves Gholston has the next logical pick, especially considering Davis’ quote post.
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One other fact is A.Davis always likes to draft an athletic freak in the first. Gholston proved that he has it on the field (watch him manhandle J.Long, for instance, and just look at how Gholston dominated the combine in nearly every category. http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers
February 26th, 2008 at 11:59 am
credit to Donkey Punch at nflcountdown.com forums:
1. Miami Dolphins: Chris Long-DE-Virginia
2. St Louis Rams: Jake Long-OT-Michigan
3. Atlanta Falcons: Glenn Dorsey-DT-LSU
4. Oakland Raiders: Vernon Gholston-DE-Ohio State
Jerry McDonald, Beat Reporter for Inside The Oakland Raiders, says he heard a Raiders scout say the following at the Combine when comparing the top defensive tackles available this year: “Dorsey. Hands down. He’s a top four pick no question while Ellis is a nice player but belongs in the top 15.”
Sportsline.com reports: “With the Raiders re-signing their leading rusher (Justin Fargas) from 2007 to a 3-year, $12 million contract, it is unlikely that they’ll spend their 1st round pick on Arkansas’ Darren McFadden.
Fact: The Raiders have invested a 1st round draft pick on a running back only twice in the past twenty five years…Marcus Allen and Napoleon Kaufman.
Raidersfan.net and InsideBayArea.com both have the following Al Davis quote posted: “When you draft high you should take a difference maker. You should look first to draft a quarterback, a left tackle, a cornerback or a defensive end. This year the players that fit that description are Chris Long, Jake Long and Vernon Gholston. We only registered 27 sacks last year and my motto is “the quarterback must go down! And he must go down hard!”
Summary: This pick is sure to shock you, but let’s look at these quotes. The McDonald quote would eliminate Sedrick Ellis. The Sportsline report along with the fact that Davis doesn’t usually draft running backs early, would eliminate McFadden. That leaves Gholston has the next logical pick, especially considering Davis’ quote post.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Scottish,
I am not trying to disrespect you or start an argument, you know I respect your opinions, but I think your comment on Chris Long being a tweener and being better suited for DE in a 3-4 defense (post 134) is incorrect.
Chris Long is 6′3″ 272, here are some other NFL DEs, I am not sure, but I don’t think they all play in a 3-4 defense and here are their heights and weights:
Jared Allen 6-6 270
Dwight Freeney 6-1 268
Jevon Kearse 6-4 265
Justin Smith 6-4 275
Michael Strahan 6-5 255
Most of these guys play in a four man front don’t they? Chris Long’s numbers add up when compared to them right?
Also, here is an article that claims Chris Long would be a bad fit as a DE in a 3-4, but a good fit in a 4-3:
http://nyj.scout.com/2/731453.html
I am just not sure where you are getting the impression that Chris Long can’t play DE in our 4-3. Mayock said he would be best suited for OLB in a 3-4, but that does not mean he can’t play DE in a 4-3 does it?
February 26th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
C to E, Jordy Nelson is the new Wes Welker. No very fast, not very physical, but he runs the routes and finds the holes. A real go-to guy.
The top of the 2nd may be a reach for Nelson, especially as some good linemen will still be on the board, but I would take Nelson over some of the speed guys (Hawkins, Avery, Bowman, etc.).
February 26th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
If that article (post 154) is correct, wouldn’t that mean Bill Parcells would avoid picking Chris Long? Didn’t he run a 3-4 in Dallas and will probably make sure Miami runs it as well? That leaves St. Louis and Atlanta between the Raiders and Chris long…any thoughts people? Do we even want Chris Long given that we have Burgess? Could we get a 3rd round pick for Burgess if we draft Chris Long?
February 26th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Wes Welker not fast ?!! kidding ! Welker was returning KO & punts because of his speed in Miami. Super speedy and dynamic. Nothing in common with Nelson : big and slow. Nelson is more Matt Jones.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
He can’t move to LA without a deal in place and LA doesn’t want anything to do with Davis. Where would he play?
Nice thought about stripping Davis of the team, but with spygate they have their plates full. They didn’t strip the Bidwells from their team when it was suspected they were not trying to compete but were taking the profits and I doubt the have the cajones to try it with Al
February 26th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
I like Jake Long his strength is unquestionable however it’s not known whether he is a zone blocking prospect according to some scouts he is not a fit.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Besides Al is done taking the people conventional wisdom says he should. He wants to be the one who finds the diamond in the rough so he will reach at #4 for some crazy prospect that’s really fast and blame it on Kiffin when he’s gone.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
I think Cable has earned the right to have the say on any offensive line selections. His evaluation of Long will make all of the difference.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
If AD agreed to move back to a remodeled Coliseum, it would solve a big problem for L.A.. The USC Trojans have threatened to move to the Rose Bowl. L.A. screwed AD, with many broken promises. Sounds familiar. But very true. AD would do it to get the NFL back to court in a flash. Just a thought.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
also J.Nelson ran 4.5 forty time thats pretty fast.
looks to have good hands and size.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Jordy Nelson 4.49 official time
February 26th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Dogg, congrats on your upgrade!
The Rockets wont even limp into the playoffs without Ming they are done!
Dakota, you’re right about not wanting the W’s in the 1st round. I think the Suns are our bitch this year. I bet the W’s are the only team that has beaten every playoff seed, who wants to play us ?
Back to Football..
I think we will draft Gholston and move him to SS, what do you RR folks think ?
February 26th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
—”Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe reports that the Patriots are expected to release LB Rosevelt Colvin today.
His $5.5 million base salary combined with a foot injury sealed his fate. We’re still surprised because they are very thin and old at the position. Colvin had his moments in New England, but ultimately was a letdown after the big deal he signed in 2003. Colvin becomes one of the best free agent linebackers available.”—
He played fantastic before he got injured, if he heals up nice, I would love to see him in Oakland!
February 26th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
hmmm… moving Gholston to safety…
reminds me of a movie i once saw…
i think it was a Custer movie…
Custer advocated “the attack without mercy”…
because it is the very last thing anyone would expect!!!
now there’s a mismatch…
February 26th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Colvin played at Purdue University. He worked at a concession stand at the RCA Dome in Indianapolis before the Chicago Bears selected him in the fourth round of the 1999 NFL draft. After playing for the Bears, Colvin was picked up by the New England Patriots, where he is presently a starting linebacker. Early in his first season with New England, Colvin suffered a career-threatening injury: a shattered socket in his right hip. It took Colvin a year to recover, while the Patriots won back-to-back Super Bowls. Colvin finally started again in 2005, and in 2006, he was a full-time starter at outside linebacker for the Patriots. He was placed on injured reserve by the Patriots on November 27, 2007.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Mista,
McFadden could play SS as well as RB!
He would certainly make a better Iron Man than Robert Downey Jr., lol.
Speaking of movies, Christian Bale will be playing John Connor in Terminator 4…nice.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
I just read the garbage by Ann Killion. Is she telling us anything new? No. She’s going back in time to dredge up yesterday’s rumours and telling us old news.
Her point is that the Raiders are in kaos and that nobody will sign here. Well Fargas just signed and he was the MVP on the team last year. If you’re a free agent and you’re talking to the Raiders, I’m sure they’ll give them the real story. Kiffin is the head coach and we’re going forward.
If Al Davis and Kiffin are sitting in front of you and telling you that they are committed you’d be more likely to believe them than some wannabe journalist drawing straws and drawing conclusions based on rumours. Rumours that have been denied.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Florida Pete,
I see you are not being affected by the Blackout in Florida…or do you have your Y2K generator hooked up?
February 26th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Dakota i’ll have my people talk to his people. Theres nothing RR cant do with raw talent.
Rumor has it Kiffin is going to give RR dancing lessons on the Eve of training camp.
Christian Bale was excellent in American Psycho.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Bale was also great in Empire of the Sun…a little known 1987 Spielburg film.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Can we just talk about anything since theres nothing going on ?
February 26th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Why not Mista, it is February for Florida Pete’s sake.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Bale was a great creep in the new version of Shaft
February 26th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
i think i can safely speak for maddenraider when i say…
THIS IS NOT YOUR BLOG!!!!
THE TOPIC FOR TODAY’S BLOG IS “JOCKEYING FOR POSITION”…
SO START TALKING ABOUT JOCKEYS…
OR POSITIONS…
OR
YOU WILL BE REPORTED TO JERRY…
AND I MEAN IT!!!
REALLY…
February 26th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Ok,
Anybody watch The Wire, HBO ?
February 26th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
lol Pete made a funny!!!
February 26th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
I can talk about positions all day long. Where should I start?
February 26th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Jerry, cleanup isle 4
February 26th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
how about the viennese oyster…
February 26th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
I have a question..
With Blockbuster, Netflix, Hollywood video etc etc why would anybody in their right mind watch a NFL combine ?
February 26th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
i see people are scrambling for their reference materials…
February 26th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Mistabrown Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
I have a question..
With Blockbuster, Netflix, Hollywood video etc etc why would anybody in their right mind watch a NFL combine ?
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for the same reason people like to watch prison movies???
February 26th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Jerry give us something or its going to get ugly in here!
February 26th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Both.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Florida Pete, the only reason I ever brought up the topic of the blog was to respond to people who were accusing me of being off topic, when they were off topic, too.
You know, if this blog is going to boil down to exaggerating peoples’ positions and overall raw sarcasm, let me know. Because it can go both ways.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
me too…
i’m hungry…
what time is it???
February 26th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
If you’re hungry the time dont matter much, go eat!
February 26th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
maddenraider…
just trying to help out…
just a helping, buddy…
helping… thats all…
February 26th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
We should definitely try to trade down. The only guy I really like is Chris Long and I think he’s very likely to be gone in the first two picks.
Ryan Clady and a 3rd round pick would be a perfect swap out of the 4 spot. I’d suggest even taking a 4th rounder in return to drop down, get the best guy for our needs and pay less to do so. Or, if the Jets would ever agree to sending us their pick (which we could use on Clady) and Jonanthan Vilma that would be a great move. Vilma was a top-15 pick and a rising star in the 4-3 system under Herm Edwards but is totally out of place in the Jets’ 3-4 scheme under Mangini. The Jets are reportedly shopping him for a 3rd-round pick.
I’m not sold on either of the top 2 DTs. They could be good, but I’d rather get a legitimate LT to protect JaMarcus and replace Barry “False Start” Sims. The Raiders should look into acquiring Shaun Rodgers from the Lions instead. He’s arguably better than Dorsey and Ellis anyway.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Chris in NY,
Reports are saying that Rogers is probably headed to Denver in a trade…sorry to bring the bad news.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Sure, Copenhagen. Killion’s article must be bogus because everyone knows that everything is just fine in Oakland, right now.
- 5 consecutive last place seasons.
- A head coach expressing a need for a new defensive scheme.
- An announcement that Rob Ryan will be staying.
- An assistant coach, James Lofton, being hired, despite him having no known connections to Lane Kiffin, not to mention him being an Al Davis favorite.
- No direct word from Al Davis that everything is fine between him and Kiffin.
- No comment from Kiffin, as well.
These are all facts. None of them rumors.
Killion is not reporting on “yesterday’s news”. She’s reporting on the current situation.
Fargas is not a top tier free agent. He signed here because he already succeeded in Kiffin’s offense. It’s not like he just won a Super Bowl in NY and told his agent, “Get me to Oakland, now!!! They’re the next real deal!!!”.
And, look, I’ve never been one to play grammar nazi, but, “kaos”?!? Most 1st graders could nail “c-h-a-o-s”, Copenhagen. Come on. Stop proving what everyone always says about avid Davis loyalists; That you guys aren’t well educated.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
What was the line in Billy Madison, he asked Sandler Jack Nicholson or Raquel Welch…lol
February 26th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Im out!
Jerry clean this place up.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
What happen to the topic of the day?
You guys are having to much fun.
I’m outta here, back to my federal highway funds monetary count.
Dakota Highway fund up to $272,000.
Please respect the Federal Blog Act of 1998.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Say MaddenRaider (the hypocrite troll) Isn’t the FIRST rule here to treat others with respect?? You break that rule EVERY TIME with no provocation. See post #194. Bye Troll.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
What a Pathetic bunch of losers….if being popular is so damned important to you morons, then jump ship and hop on the Patriot or Giant bandwagon…..who gives a rat’s patoot what the media or anybody else has to say about the Raider organization?
Grow up… what a bunch of bawl baby pissy pants.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
BTW MaddenRaider, everyone knows you’re a hypocrite troll. Next.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
It was spelled KAOS on the Get Smart tv show in the 60’s.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Draft
“Who gives a rat’s patoot’ very good description.
Very funny!
February 26th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
That bites, Dakota. I hadn’t heard that. Rodgers is one of those big MFs who can clog the middle and collapse the center of the line. That’s exactly what we need to stop the run.
Not only are we missing out but he’s going to Denver?
February 26th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Whatever you say, Oakglenn. There is a pack of Al worshipers in here that have made it a point over the course of the past year or so to insult any person who comes in here and suggests that either Al is doing a poor job, or that there is “kaos” in the organization.
It’s when you guys started accusing people of being “off topic” is when I pointed out to you that all of you were off topic, as well. As far as the rules go, it’ll be up to Jerry. Since you’re not a mod, not an administrator, and nobody of any significance or importance, you will not be the one who makes the final decision as to whom gets banned. And neither will Florida Pete, as he’s already been noted for mocking Jerry and his rules. That’s something I have not done, despite making the mistake of breaking them from time to time, only to fight fire with fire with the Al loyalists that TROLL in here, and whom are the perpetual rule breakers (All Jerry needs to do is review and read for himself. Don’t take my word for it.)
February 26th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
# Draft Beer Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
What a Pathetic bunch of losers….if being popular is so damned important to you morons, then jump ship and hop on the Patriot or Giant bandwagon…..who gives a rat’s patoot what the media or anybody else has to say about the Raider organization?
Grow up… what a bunch of bawl baby pissy pants.
………….
Wow, what a tough talking cyber macho mouth you are.
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe popularity is not what anyone is concerned about, but rather, um, winning football games? That’s all I ever cared about. That’s all most fans ever cared about. That’s all Lane Kiffin cares about. In fact that’s what everyone cares about except for Al Davis, his loyal henchmen in the organization, and his blindly loyal followers. THEY are the ones more concerned with deceiving the press and showing up anyone who’s “disloyal” to Al Davis. The rest of us care about winning. Pay attention.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
296 more comments until open forum
February 26th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Testing, testing…have I been banned?
Dang, the moderator must be at work today!
GO RAIDERS!
February 26th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
How “Ironic” that one of the biggest supporters and true friends of AL DAVIS is none other than John Madden.
One of the moronic imbeciles in here needs to change
his user name.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
# Draft Beer Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
“It was spelled KAOS on the Get Smart tv show in the 60’s.”
………….
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/kaos
Only two results for “kaos”, one an abbreviation for a computer operating system, and another being an acronym for something else.
Might be time to switch to non alcoholic “draft beer”. You don’t need to lose any more brain cells.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
When I tap into this blog, I usually find four or five intelligent bloggers and many more just content to argue.
WHY?
Go Raiders!
Go Lakers!
February 26th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
There is a little known clause in the Federal Blog Act of 1998 that states the 500 comment threshold for open forum only applies between the day training camp opens and the day the Super Bowl is held. During the offseason, the threshold is dropped to 50 comments except on those days that the NFL holds the draft.
So, after 50 comments the forum is wide open!
Source: Ch. 6, 38 Stat., Sec 251, Federal Blog Act of 1998.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Thanks Dakota. That’s why you’re one of 4 0r 5 I refer to.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Captain Buzzkill is here, I’m gone.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Well obviously MaddenRaider is a young punk with no culture. Get Smart was a spoof of the popular secret agent movies of the 60’s and KAOS was the evil organization of bad guys.
Might be time for you to shut up and learn something from your elders
February 26th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Draft Beer, as your brain cells continue to flush let me try and interject at least a little bit of common sense into whatever is left of your brain matter; John Madden has hardly anything to do with Al Davis, anymore.
Madden is on record as being very appreciative of the opportunity Al gave him. It was a time when Davis put winning above all else. That’s why he also let Ron Wolf build his football teams. And, he also let Madden coach them. That’s why Madden still praises him to this day….WHEN the topic is brought up.
On the other hand, Madden does not go around praising Davis randomly. He praises Brett Favre more than he praises Davis.
He has never publicly stood up for Davis and his decision making in recent years, decisions resulting in 5 straight last place seasons, and the current “kaos” with Lane Kiffin.
In the meantime, Madden has taken up for other owners and general managers under the microscope, unsolicited. So it’s not like he’s mum on these types of issues. But no word offered in defense of Al Davis.
Madden was critical of our play in Super Bowl 37, while calling the game. He made on interesting comment, that Al worshipers may have missed but might want to delve into, if they think that Madden walks around viewing Davis as the same god that they view him as.
Madden said, “It’s the Super Bowl. I don’t think the Raiders get it. Tampa gets it. Gruden gets it.”.
Now, we all know that Al Davis IS the Raiders, and John Madden will be the first to sign on to that slogan. So when John Madden says “The Raiders don’t get it”….
Madden loves Al Davis as a person. He owes his career to Al Davis. But don’t think for one second that Madden is signed on to the BS Al Davis is pulling off today. Madden respects Davis, but Madden is not a loyal idiot to Al Davis, like Davis’s followers in this comments section.
That being said, my screen name is perfect. I’m a fan of the Raiders, yet I do not support the way Al Davis is managing this football team, right now. That’s in line with John Madden’s views, if you’ve payed attention to the things he has said, and hasn’t said, about Al Davis in recent years.
So, thanks for bringing it up.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
# Draft Beer Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Well obviously MaddenRaider is a young punk with no culture. Get Smart was a spoof of the popular secret agent movies of the 60’s and KAOS was the evil organization of bad guys.
Might be time for you to shut up and learn something from your elders
…………
Learn what, to worship Al Davis no matter how bad he does, and to misspell simple words? I’ll pass.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
# RaiderTW Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Captain Buzzkill is here, I’m gone.
……..
I like that! And, I’m here to stay. I’m following the rules here, more so than most of you. And when I disagree with your guys’ constant hyperbole on how great Al Davis is, I’m going to interject your nonsense with facts and most certainly kill your buzz! You’ll thank me for it someday. I mean, do you really want your grandkids making fun of you when you’re defending Al Davis? They will have access to computers, with won loss records between 1986 to present. They’ll know how to google “Ron Wolf”, “Jon Gruden”, “Lane Kiffin”, “Marcus Allen”. I’m just trying to save you guys the embarrassment! LOL. If that means killing your buzz, well then I’m doing god’s work.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
MaddenRaider- I agree with you on most points however, I don’t believe you can blame the Raiders not being prepared for the SB on Davis. That blame falls squarely on Callahan for not prepping his team, Callahan for not managing the large distractions of a Barret Robbins meltdown and Tim Browns wife having a baby, Callahan for not anticipating his old boss was going to utilize enemy intel against him. Al Davis had nothing to do with these things.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall…99 Bottles of Beeeer
February 26th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Al Davis must go! IMHO.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Jerry,
Any truth to this? This is according to John Czarnecki of Fox Sports. We all know about the garbage with AL and Lane, but what about Knapp and Rathman:
“There is still a chance that Raiders owner Al Davis will fire head coach Lane Kiffin and replace him with James Lofton, who was fired as the receivers coach of the Chargers. How bizarre is that? It’s also no secret that current Oakland assistans Greg Knapp and Tom Rathman will be on Jim Mora’s 2009 Seattle coaching staff.”
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7837770?MSNHPHMA
February 26th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Al Davis Must Go! ..and Take Rob Ryan with him.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
So tell us MaddenRaider… why the need to be so purposely argumentative and confrontational??? Is it that the only muscle you feel you can forcefully flex is your intellect??? …and even then only from behind a computer monitor with no fear of physical retaliation from those you bellitle and badger.
What’s the malady MaddenRaider,,, were you victimized by a bully??? what?? short in stature??? are you obese??? just plain butt ugly??? mommy and daddy abuse you???
Tell us, and we’ll forgive you, your shortcomings and make allowances.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Raiders aren’t going to improve until Al Davis is a Goner. It’s really that simple. The Raiders will not win more that 5 games per season until that happens.
Sad but True.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Look at draft beer, crying foul like a baby all of a sudden. What happened to this cyber macho tough guy:
# Draft Beer Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
“What a Pathetic bunch of losers….if being popular is so damned important to you morons, then jump ship and hop on the Patriot or Giant bandwagon…..who gives a rat’s patoot what the media or anybody else has to say about the Raider organization?
Grow up… what a bunch of bawl baby pissy pants.”
…………….
Wow. What a change of gears. From Artie Gigantino to Mother Theresa in 30 minutes…
This guy comes on here, tries do defend a fellow Al worshiper’s moronic spelling of “chaos”, them insults basically every Al critic here, using words “pissy pants”. Now, like the girly man he is, he’s crying, “why do you have to be so argumentative”?
You criticizing someone else for being argumentative is just flat hilarious! No, it’s KAOTIC!
What a crybaby. Take a hike, draft beer. And take good care of the 3 brain cells you have left. You are now officially the biggest moron, and the biggest crybaby, at this blog. Congratulations.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Shit i hate to say it but i guess i have to prepare myself.
as much as i want kiff on board, even if he is on board he’s probably not gonna really be on board. so IF THE RUMORS ARE TRUE don’t mess around and broom him.
the passing offense was far from stellar. as long as cable is around to teach the zone blocking. its not like the passing offense is gonna fall off the mark. it sucked anyways.
Like i said earlier. RR is gonna turn it around this year. this 4 year rebuilding project should reap its rewards now. and yes to all of you naysayers NOT ONE PLAYER ON THIS DEFENSE WAS AROUND FOR THE SUPER BOWL it was a rebuilding period. I give Al credit for having patience for once and giving it another year.
too bad he didn’t do the same for Kiffin. Or too bad kiffin didn’t have the patience for RR. I don’t even know who to be pissed at anymore.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
I Dress In Black,
That was a direct quote from John Madden. EMail him, don’t tell me about it.
Madden said, “This is the Super Bowl. The Raiders don’t get it. I mean, Tampa gets it. Gruden gets it”. — Something to that effect. But that’s close to the exact quote, if not it word for word.
Now, of course Madden’s talking about Callahan, too. But what’s more notable about that statement is when you consider that “AL DAVIS IS THE RAIDERS”.
“AL DAVIS IS THE RAIDERS”.
Think about it.
John Madden himself has said that, over and over.
So when John Madden says the Raiders when describing anything bad that they are doing, one would have to assume he’s criticizing Al.
Dress in Black,
Do you honestly believe that John Madden is stupid enough to not know that Al Davis was as responsible as anyone for our Super Bowl 37 loss? Do you think Madden is as stupid as the typical Al worshiper?
February 26th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
“this 4 year rebuilding project should reap its rewards now.”
Did you see any of the games last year?????????????????
Pop in the tape of the Jacksonville game and give an analysis of the “Rebulding Process” of the defense.
This defense SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 26th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
nailed it didn’t I maddenraider…you’re a screen beret tough guy…..you only find comfort in attacking others with a keyboard…..poor slob…that’s o k I pity you.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
MaddenRaider….
Without getting too personal, I hope you have a nice family and a nice life, I really do, but I have to say this:
It must be sad being you…
All that negativity and all that bitterness have got to be hard to live with, I hope you leave it all out in here.
By the way, getting banned from another blog as you told us you were….how pathetic is that?.
One last thing,
You define the word hypocrite, just this morning Dakota peacefully argued something about the Lakers with you and answered with this:
”idiot. Get out of LA for a few days and let the smog clear out of your brain.”
But you are the one talking about insults?….
There are plenty of Davis crtiics here, we all get along great, everyone but you……..why do you think that is?.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
2sense, you’re criticizing Kiffin’s offense in it’s first year, when it is far improved from the previous year’s? Are you out of you mind?
And, the “4 year building project” on our defense is going to start reaping it’s rewards? I actually thought that was a joke, until I read on and realized that you were serious, and that maybe you have drunk more kook aid than every Al worshiper combined.
I don’t know when you started watching football, 2sense. But there is no such thing as a “4 year rebuilding project”, anymore. It’s common knowledge in this league now that you have a 3 year window, considering the obstacles of free agency and the salary cap. If you don’t have a team by year 3, or a unit, forget it. Year 4 of Rob Ryan, and we’re as bad as we ever were. Stop handicapping your intellect with Davis propaganda. Do you want to end up like Draft Beer, completely brain dead?
February 26th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Eugene showing what he’s learned from Stuart Schwigert:
http://nbcsports.nbcunifiles.com/spts/files/nbcsports/nfl/NFL%20Week%2016/FredTaylor_Jags_320×250.jpg
February 26th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
This was our extremely expensive 5-11 team Gruden/Callahan built. Any team having to start over from this would take at least 3-4 years to overcome.
WR Doug Gabriel
LT Barry Sims
LG Brad Badger
C Adam Treu
RG Jake Grove
RT Robert Gallery
TE Doug Jolley
WR Jerry Porter
QB Kerry Collins
RB Amos Zereoue
FB Zack Crockett
LDE Bobby Hamilton
NT Ted Washington
RDE/DT Warren Sapp
OLB Tyler Brayton
ILB Danny Clark
ILB Napoleon Harris
OLB Sam Williams
LCB Charles Woodson
RCB Phillip Buchanon
SS Marques Anderson
FS Ray Buchanan
I found this info at: http://www.vertgame.com/
February 26th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Bob,
Don’t worry about what he says to me, I ignore 99% of his posts anyhow, reading them is a waste of time. He is just a blowhard that attacks everyone’s opinions. It’s okay to disagree and attack people’s thoughts sometimes, but after I figured out that that is pretty much all MaddenRaider does here, I stopped reading his posts.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
i’ve said this earlier. the defense didn’t play well but they by no means sucked. they had bad stats but kept us in every game except two with an anemic offense that couldn’t score. and if we’re gonna reduce ourselves to judging a team on one game how about holding one of the leagues best offenses to one touchdown which they might not’ve even had if reggie wayne didn’t make a bullshit one handed catch on third down over nnamdi in the 4th.
they were young and inexperienced. with an average of 4.5 yrs experience which was inflated by sapps 13 yrs. with the addition of a couple FA this will be a good defense next year under RR.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
The sad part is that the current team is not much better than that 5-11 team
February 26th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
i’m not blaming kiffins offense. its not his fault. they were rebuilt as well and had no weapons WHATSOEVER. but his game plans were good and also should be credited for playing to the little strengths we had.
and by the way ive been watching football for a long time and will back up my argument with facts for as long as i need to.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Draft Beer, are you back to your cyber macho persona, again? Are you finally done crying about people being “argumentative”, when you started your day with this dandy:
# Draft Beer Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
“What a Pathetic bunch of losers….if being popular is so damned important to you morons, then jump ship and hop on the Patriot or Giant bandwagon…..who gives a rat’s patoot what the media or anybody else has to say about the Raider organization?
Grow up… what a bunch of bawl baby pissy pants.”
…..
Keep ‘em coming, you… kaotic character, you.
And, Marley, save your pathetic guilt trips. Your fellow Davis henchmen have been insulting people in here left and right from day one. The only reason I ever pointed out the rules to any of them is because THEY were actually accusing ME of being a disruption to this blog, when in fact this is a free comments section where hardly anyone is on topic. Not to mention, these idiots break the rules on a regular basis. But like your hypocritical ombudsmen expose`s into any and all points made by Al’s critics (while you let notorious fact twisters like Oakglenn spin facts and use double standards to defend Al Davis), you only point out people insulting other members when they’re not in the Al Davis crowd, as well.
Marley, these drooling, weak minded Davis followers may look up to you, but you have zero respect from me, and you know it. So why you continuously try to waltz in and play armchair mod is beyond me. You’re like a fly on my shoulder.
Flick.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
There is no light at the end of the tunnel with Al Davis in charge.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Marley just got “Marleyd”, again.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Here is my stance on Al Davis, yet you don’t see everyone attacking me all the time do you MaddenRaider? Maybe they attack you because you have no people skills? lol.
REPOST:
Whomever is to blame, be it Al, the coaches, the players or the ball boys I think we can all agree that the current state of the Raiders is the lowest it has ever been. We are all pissed off that our team, which once was the model franchise (25 years ago), has now become the standard bearer for the bottom dwellers of the NFL. Outside of expansion teams, the last 41/2 years of Raiders football has been possibly the worst, most pathetic showing an NFL team has ever had. We have not had the players, the coaches or the leadership that is required to pull us out of this slump.
Who do I think is to blame? Everyone to an extent, I guess, but there is one constant through it all; Al Davis. It is his team, he makes all of the decisions, he is in complete control of this franchise so how can he not take the blame for the current state of his franchise? He IS THE RAIDERS as some of you are fond of stating. Let’s check the facts all of you Al supporters have been touting.
This is his track record since 1990:
Team Record: 120-145
AFC West Championships: 3 in 17 seasons
Super Bowls: 0-1
Coaches: He hired five losers: Art Shell, Bugle, White, Callahan, Turner; and one winner: Gruden. Then traded the winner. Kiffin: unknown
He drafted these losers in the critical first three rounds : Huff, McQuistan, Fabian, Gallery, Grove, Schweigert, Brayton, Teyo, Buchanon, Harris, Jolley, Gibson, Grant, Jano, Porter, Ioane, Stinchcomb, Bryant, D. Russell, Kohn, Dudley, Aska, Folston, Calvin Jones, Patrick Bates, Hobert, McGlockton, Skrepenek, Marinovich.
He drafted these decent to good players: Morrison, Routt, Nnamdi, Fargas (only recently played well), Lechler, Woodson, Kaufman, Robbins. Only Robbins, Woodson and Lechler have been perennial pro bowlers. No Hall of Famers in this list.
Moves: He moved the team from LA to Oakland and it blew up in his face.
QBs: Schroeder, Marinovich, Hostetler, George, Gannon, Collins and Brooks: This is one of Al’s strong points. Schroeder, Hoss, George, Gannon and Collins all had decent stats, but did not always lead the team to victory outside of Gannon.
If you check the facts it is pretty obvious that Al Davis has not performed up to expectations, especially his own expectations over the past 17 seasons or so. The game has moved beyond him. He needs to hire a GM to help him with his decision making; it is clear from the FACTS that Al Davis no longer has the ability to run an NFL franchise PERIOD. No super bowl victories, disgusting draft record, poor choices of head coaches, poor AFC West record, poor overall record, poor decision making in terms of moving his franchise…it all adds up. Pull your heads out of the sand and look at the stark, cold reality of the situation.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
MaddenRaider why are you still here???? You are the single most vile hypoctical person on this blog and everyone knows it. you’re a walking effing hypocrite. You’re really a Whiner fan, yet you pose as a Raider. You called me out to Jerry for rule violations when all you do is come in here, flame the Raiders, and flame the Raider bloggers. And you’ve been banned from other blogs???? Yet you still go back there on your own admission?????? So very, very pathetic.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
There’s plenty of light at the end of the tunnel.
Consider the following and then look back at post 233
Russell, Fargas, Griffith/O’Neal, Miller, Curry, Gallery, Carlisle, & McQuistan make up our O with some needs.
Morrison, Howard, Huff, Nnamdi, Routt, Washington, Burgess, Clemons/Richardson, & Warren make up our D with some needs.
After this draft and FA signings, there’ll be plenty of light at the end of the tunnel regardless of the coaching.
Coaches obviously are responsible for a lot of wins, but they must have the horses to get them there. Gruden & Callahan left us with a lot of ponies and we’ve had to rebuild.
When Kiffin came on board he made many big strides on ridding this team of many players and next season we’ll see big improvements across the board.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
MaddenRaider: All sound and fury, signifying nothing. Boring, empty posts, designed to inflame and piss off people for no reason, other than some sad glee. Just pathetic.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Dokata, you may be right. And, your post is well put. But you have to understand that I’m not concerned about having “people skills” with a bunch of jerks who have none, themselves. To hell with every Al worshiper spin meister that trolls this comments section pretending to be mods. Every last one of them. I’m going to continue to bring it to these morons, and if you don’t like it, Dakota, with all due respect, don’t read it an mind your business.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
MaddenRaider…..
I wonder one thing, Davis´s critics in here seem to be truly disapointed when lashing out at him, you can get the feel that they care for what they are expressing, I may not always agree but I do respect their passion…
You, on the other hand, seem to actually enjoy all the negative rumors, you seem to gloat on the fact that we have fallen on hard times lately, you seem to take pleasure in predicting nothing but futility for the Raiders….It really makes me wonder what´s your real agenda here.
Anyways, I don´t seek your respect or anyone else´s here, I have self-respect, a concept you might wanna get familiar with.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
….But can he dance?
February 26th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Capt buzzkill=madden raider
He is one miserable human being,note when he posts, early mornin am, he must have a nothing job,graveyard shift, so he takes his poor crappy life on this blog.
he attacks for no reason other to build his own pathetic life up to feel like he is a man.
he says with pride how he was kicked off raiders.net
not surprising is it.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Keep it coming, Oakglenn. We know Marley will never call you out for breaking the rules…
And, every time you idiots bring it up, I’m going to remind you:
The only reason I ever quoted the rules was in response to your guys’ accusations that I was being disruptive to this comments section. I pointed out to you guys, on numerous occasions, that this is NOT topical message board. I also pointed out all of the rules you guys break on a regular basis.
(See Draft Beer’s first cyber macho post, riddled with rule violations, then his hilarious guilt trip he gives me an hour later for being “argumentative”..LOL)
Oakglenn, it’s you who needs to give it up. I’m not going anywhere. You do not decide who stays and who goes. You are not important enough. Nobody knows you. You’re just a random, anonymous head who comes in here and tries to do damage control for the team, and you’re failing on a daily basis. You are not in a position to call anyone a “troll”. In fact, the more you insult people for merely speaking their minds on Al Davis, which you have done since the first day you’ve posted here, and have done so several times under god knows how many aliases (starking similarity between you and Draft Beer, but I’ll give both of you dolts the benefit of the doubt that you’re just two separate drones brainwashed by Al Davis’s mantra), the more YOU are the troll.
Like Bob Marley, you’re a fly on my shoulder. Just buzzing and making noise, and easily manageable. At some point, you’re going to have to realize that. Or, maybe it’s the sensation of my big finger swatting you clear across the room that will get it through you small head.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
“your small head”. See, I own up to my grammatical errors. I don’t reference some TV show from the middle of the 20th century to try and excuse it. I mean, that would be kaotic.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Marley, it sounds to me like you’re blaming me for how far your hero Al Davis had driven this team into the ground. I just can’t gather any other meaning when you say I’m “taking joy” in this team’s downfall. And, glad to see you’re finally admitting there is a downfall. After all, I thought everything was fine and Kiffin and Davis were going fishing together on a daily basis…
And, good for you that you don’t need my respect. Because, again, you’re not getting my respect. Not until you start calling out the Davis shills on their hypocrisies and rule violations, the way you do the Davis critics.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
dadadadadaddda. MaddenRaider what a whiny cry baby. I only called you out because, wawwawawawawawa.
Oh BTW, you’re a miserable TRANSPARENT TROLL, loser.
I’ve told you a million times, I’ll be more than happy to critize the crazy stuff Davis has done over the years. But what good is it?
Basically Troll, we could all just sit here and break down the 51-3 loss the Raiders had in the 1991 AFC Championship game to Buffalo. We could do that for weeks and weeks on end. But what good is it??
Yes, we’ve had a miserable record over the last five years. We all know that. We’re trying to get better.
And MR you are right about flys buzzing around you. There’s certainly tons of those.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
maddentroll-its close to bed time for your grave shift…take a dive on your pillow and dream about more hate
February 26th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
DAKOTA-
i’m not defending al cuz this latest move was in every aspect of the word….retarded. but in fairness i will play devils advocate.
the move to part with gruden was genius. that compensation for a coach that has done nothing without Tony Dungy’s players was a thing of beauty. (what he did with those picks is another story).
The draft has been i would say mediocre. i don’t have the time to do the research but i would think it would be to par with most teams. in your list of busts you have huff, fabian, grove, mcquistan, and gallery who still have time to develop. Russell made the pro bowl i think twice before he decided to become a junkie and Mcglockton was in the pro bowl every year that i can remember while he was with us. You forgot thomas howard and Janikowski is a solid kicker over the past 4 years or so.
He had a team in the early 2000s that were ridiculously old and if you recall we were way….WAY over the cap. it was only a matter of time until it bottomed out. and as evidence will show it has. Outside of barry sims. nobody on either side of the ball is on the team anymore.
more to come later……gotta run.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
# Al Davis Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Capt buzzkill=madden raider
He is one miserable human being,note when he posts, early mornin am, he must have a nothing job,graveyard shift, so he takes his poor crappy life on this blog.
he attacks for no reason other to build his own pathetic life up to feel like he is a man.
he says with pride how he was kicked off raiders.net
not surprising is it.
………
Nice to see that you refer to graveyard shifts as “nothing jobs”. You think real highly of the American worker, don’t you? Only a niner fan could have mocked a graveyard or swing shift worker in such a pretentious, yuppy tone, the way you just did. Pat yourself on the back.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Hey MaddenRaider, Instead of Al Davis I would rather talk about what an utter piece of crap Eddie deBartolo was. The salary cap in the NFL was a direct result of DeBartolo and the Whiners just “buying” Super Bowl rings, ala the current Boston Blosux teams. How many Super Bowls have the Whiners won without DeBartolo????? None. How many have they gone to????? None. And then DeBartolo circumvented the cap and got caught and the Whiner franchise was penalized. Then he got mixed up with very shady crooks in a gambling venture and yep, got caught and took a felony conviction. Whiner Owner=convicted felon. nuff said.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KAOS
Learn about it troll MaddenRaider!
Who else wants some?
February 26th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
All of you working graveyard or swing shifts, note, you are not good enough in the eyes of the commenter who posts under the name “Al Davis”. Note his mockery of graveyard and swing shift workers, part of the back bone of the post WW2 American work force, in post 248. Shame on you, jerk. Now go meet some other Niner fans at some starbucks in the peninsula, play Sudoku, and mock the American blue collar worker a little more, while you’re at it.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Yeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh booooooyyyyyeeeeee!
February 26th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
MaddenRaider….
You know what?.
You should be thanking me, if it wasn´t for me showing you up every time you come around here no one would even know who you are.
I made you.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
MaddenRaider -
How about some cheese with that whine you little crybaby niner fan!
Get that shit outta here
February 26th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Well put, Oakglenn. But I’m not a fan of the 49ers, and don’t care what Debartolo accomplished, or didn’t accomplish. I only care about the Oakland Raiders, the present day (yeh, with my screen name, MADDENRaider), and the turmoil, caused by AL DAVIS, that is keeping this team where it has been for 5 straight years, AT THE BOTTOM. I’ll discuss that with you all day. If you want to discuss the 49ers, go to Starbucks in Redwood City with the poster “Al Davis”, play Sodoku, and mock the American blue collar worker as he did in post 248.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
MaddenRaider…
Just as I made you, the minute I stop talking to you, you will start to fade.
Other than me, no one responds to you, at least not until you insult someone directly so they are forced to enagage with you.
”And MR you are right about flys buzzing around you. There’s certainly tons of those.”
Good one Oakglenn.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
maddenkilljoy-it must be hard to swallow the grave shift as an american job…you dont deny you work at night, thats ok… you are still a american with a crappy job..dont lump in all americans,only you are miserable person..on a final note I have posted on raiders.net and it was so good to see you get booted
February 26th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
If we get Josh Barrett or Tom Zbikowski I’d be happy , Barrett would be a great strong safety with his size and speed, what ever team picks him definately should not move him to LB as scouts predict, Zbikowski is a hitter and has the strength and speed to handle big tight ends , he did 24 reps in the bench at the combine. I can’t wait until draft day, hopefully Al drinks plenty of coffee that morning and his neurons get fired up and we get some steals and deals!
February 26th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
2sense,
I agree, what Al got in picks and compensation for Gruden was nice, too bad he blew the picks on a bunch of losers and Gruden proceeded to smack us down in the SB. If he had drafted a couple of long-term starters and took it too Gruden in the SB, then I would have called it a genius move.
I stand by my player lists, but as to Janikowski, he is still a big disappointment. He has not been that great over the past 4 years, look up his FG%.
Lastly, Al Davis signed those old players that put us way over the cap…he is the boss man, so he is to blame.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Bob Marley, you made me? Keep it up, and you’re going to be hauled off to the loony bin, or perhaps given the county fair, where they’ll put you in the cage right next to the one where Oakglenn is leaving the crowd in stiches by telling them how Joe Montana wanted to be a Raider.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
ok sorry
dakota-
they could have been in three other super bowls but weren’t because of three freak ass instances:
bo getting his hip ripped off by the bungles
gannon getting his arm ripped off by fat ass goose
tuck rule
the loss in the super bowl isn’t al’s fault that bill wasn’t even smart enough to change the offensive signals to something different that what gruden invented. they didn’t even need spygate. we may as well of handed them the game plan.
Shell (the first time) was well over .500. i wouldn’t characterize that as a loser.
Dallas sucked bad for 6 years before they became a dynasty. everyone has down years. this drama between kiffin and him wasn’t handled correctly but remember we don’t know the story. If kiff was gonna bolt for college then maybe he deserves this. only time will tell.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Actually, Maddenraider, Marly did make you.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
MaddenRaider…
It´s allright, I´ll actually ask to be next to your cage or at least in the same loony bin where they put you, that way we can keep this up.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Yeah, MaddenRaider I have to go with Marley and the Entire Blog Community on that one. Marley created you, and Marley destroyed you, like Shelly’s Frankenstein. It’s a known fact.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Poster “Al Davis” is still mocking the American graveyard and swing shift worker, people. A few posts above. Keep ‘em coming, Al, especially considering how many Raider fans work graveyard jobs to support their families. Hard working Americans with pride, doing the right thing, only to be mocked by some jerk who takes the same approach to the graveyard worker as the typical cunning yuppy, like the kind that fill Monster park every Sunday in red and gold shirts. You are one pretentious snob, “Al Davis”. Even the real Al Davis would never mock the American worker the way you do.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Ladies and gentlemen, in the first cage, we have Oakglenn. For 3 dollars, you can hear him talk about how Joe Montana wanted to get killed dropping back 7 steps and having no open receivers or running backs, in Al Davis’s “vertical” offense.
In the second cage, we have Bob Marley. He claims he created the wheel, the telephone, and some people who criticize Al Davis.
Both Bob Marley and Oakglenn were donated to us by the Atascadero state hospital. The two of them were so funny, that the hospital decided to donate them to the private sector.
Enjoy! Step right up!
February 26th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I read evreything that is published in this site
religously but I seldom post. but today
I have to say life has not been experienced untill
rushed. I have seen rush live in concert 15 times
and they never disapoint there faithfull fans.
even if they havent put out a top 10 hit in many years
they are veteran rock n rollers with a lot of class
just like the raiders i will be faithfull to the end.
I have also read evrey book neal has wrote.
be patient the raiders will turn this thing around soon. give lane 2-more years to prove him self.
we need defence and some better recievers.
my blood is silver and black. god I hope jr is
our lord and savior. bring back george blanda,
and the snake to have a little raider talk with him
about what it means to be a raider.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Oakglenn, come on. Tell us more about how Joe Montana wanted to be a Raider. Didn’t he tell you that in the men’s restroom at Rickeys? Or, was it in your imagination? I think the latter is the truth, which is why you’ll be getting hauled off to the mental hospital someday. Just keep repeating your Montana story in public, dude.
Even though each and every one of my posts gets a parade of responses from the Davis shill trolls that dwell here like bums under a bridge, Marley has convinced himself that none of them would know who I was if it wasn’t for him.
This is also a symptom of being delusional and psychotic.
If I were the other posters here, I would be a little insulted by Marleys’ insinuation that they couldn’t identify an Al Davis critic without Marley pointing them in a direction and winding them up. But when you’re a mindless lemming, that’s what you do, follow. You follow idiots like Al Davis, and this Bob Marley character.
Not me. I have a brain of my own, thank you. And, I know Bob Marley is a fraud.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Here MaddenRaider, I got one for ya…
Move along folks, nothing to see here, just a huge pile of shit that got torched by the community. Yeah, smells bad, but really nothing to see. Move on.. Move along…..
February 26th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
maddenamerican…you still have not answered,do you work a grave shift, ifyou are the backbone of american way answer the question…why are you afraid…you can handle the smack talk…you need no friends…the mods here wont care if you do…chicken little
February 26th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
gosh MaddenRaider, that’s like the 50th time you’ve put in writing that everyone is delusional and psychotic but you. You know what that means……
Nothing to see here folks, move along…..
February 26th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
MaddenRaider
Now you´re just boring.
Gotta go, see you later gentlemen.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Bob, I was gonna say the same thing. This has just gotten sad, boring and pathetic. Gotta go as well.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
I, for one, welcome MaddenRaider’s point of views and find myself often agreeing with him. It’s the people like Marley and “the” Terrapin who attack you if you don’t aggree with them in lock step fashion.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
“Berrian keeps talking about wanting to play for the 49ers.”
I read this in an article in the internet. Do you know how much this upsets me? especialy about what jerry said a couple a weeks ago? He said something in his Q&A that Jerry Porter could as well go to SF. I really hate mike nolan, and how much freaking money do these guys have? they spent like what 80 mil on nate and they still are signing hella other players? they are even interested in justin smith.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
More drivel from ANG.
Damn, isn’t there more to talk about?
Pure speculation. What is this bring a kid to work day?
http://origin.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_8366178
Ann Killion should stick to the sewing circle gossip and leave the football to the bigboys.
All the touchpoints are there;
Not wearing Raiders gear. Check.
Kiffin dancing at nightclub. Check.
James Lofton. Check
Davis neutering his coaches. Check.
Team image damaged. Check.
Randy Moss. Check.
Blahblahblah. Check
And this lil’ gem:
“…The people the Raiders like to dub “false rumor-mongerers” are usually dead-on in their reporting…
ROFL you gotta be kidding.
Here’s more:
“…Two truths are being proven again. The first is that Davis doesn’t value head coaches. He doesn’t care if he publicly neuters his coach. He cares, to a pathological extreme, about control, and this incident takes his usual undermining tactics to a new level.”
Mr. Davis he hasn’t done anything publicly or officially to Lane Kiffin. this is all media speculative nonsense that is doing the damage.
Thanks guys.
Please stop with the drivel.
You should be doing more to end these rumors, not purpetuate them.
I am seeing some sites that have more reliable information that ANG suppoted sites. I come here for the insight of the blog attendees, damn sure not the ‘professional’ insight. Jeez.
Why is the hometown paper such a travesty?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Vernon for Prez?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
OK little boys time for a nap.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
“Some teams are wondering why the Bears didn’t place the transition tag on WR Bernard Berrian in order to at least see what kind of contract offers he receives. Sometimes teams cut players loose, figuring the money is going to be too expensive. But there’s nothing wrong with protecting your investment a little and matching it. Berrian keeps talking about wanting to play for the 49ers.”
I read this in foxsports.com. This is complete bull crap, who else wants to go to the 9ers for goddamn money? The 49ers suck, even if they have mike martz, they don’t have a good line and they most definetly don’t have the talented QB to fit in his system. Mike Martz needs someone who has arm strength, not some one who has sticks4arms and runs around in the pocket. AND HOW MUCH MONEY DO THEY HAVE?….and most importantly…WHERE DO THEY GET IT??? they signed pretty much half of the free agents availabe last year, including a 80 mil deal to nate, and yet Mike Nolan wants to talk about in the combine there “hopes and dreams”. Well let me tell you sumthing 9ers fans, I don’t hate the 49ers, there one of the few teams i would go to if somehow the oakland raiders never existed or just blew up, but your coaching and financial staff is stupid and crazy. Any die-hard raiders with me in this bull crap?
R.A.W. = Raiders. Athletics. Warriors.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Washington cut Brandon Lloyd…we are pretty desperate for WRs aren’t we? Don’t laugh, he is better than nothing!
February 26th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Alls I can say is if Lane Kiffin can get through this off season of all this Bull-sh%t,and he could start winning and get this virus of losing out of our Raiders system,then we’ll have something special again for a long time.Changing coaches year after year after year isn’t the Raider way at all.We must have some stability to move away from these unfortunate times.Al Davis is all about LOYALTY.He was dead set against free-agency and it shows.To him now,people can’t be trusted like they use to be and certain people in positions that can start false rumors knows that about Al Davis.They know that our Raiders played much better than our record showed.So,to try to get to Mr Loyalty Al Davis.They’ll start rumors knowing how Al Davis feels about being loyal.Coach Kiffin hears these rumors and decides to just do his job and not FEED-INTO those false allegations.Al Davis hears those same rumors and he’s wondering why hasn’t Coach Kiffin said anything or did anything to disfuse those rumors.Know,Al Davis thinking that these rumors must be true.Then he starts to lose faith in Lane Kiffin for not addressing these rumors.This is where we are today because people knows that its just a matter of time before Lane Kiffin gets our RAIDERS back to the glory days.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
HC Jim Mora Defensive minded,Kiffin OC, Cable O-line, & Rathman.( Kiffins choices for offensive coaches) all available in 2009. Kiffins a lame duck coach and no FA’s this year unless its only for the money: see Sands
February 26th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Help I’ve been transported back in time to the senior bowl
February 26th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Trade down with the Jets for thier 1st + their 3RD pick Theis only works if DMAC is there at 4. Take VG,or Clady. Rd 2 Bryant or another run stuffer. 3rd Cables choice. 4th Chris Johnson,Felix Jones or another RB in case Bush cant go.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Just read through the days comments,
Thanks Oakglenn, Marley for dealing with the unsound mind.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
I know M, what we do without those two stalwarts. Thanks guy’s I envy your endurance.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
New blog.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
BTW, someone wanted to get Chris Johnson with a 4th, I don’t think so. That kid will be gone late 1st, early 2nd at worst. When they have their pro day and teams see him catch the football it’s over. He has tremendous hands and is lethal in the open field. Similar to M. Faulk or Devin Hester.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
I belive there were other choices too. I guess i should have left names out of pick#4
February 26th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Will the Bundy, ever start to show some leadership at the top. Expect more players departing the already Fading Faiders. Russell will be a lost if not a bust. Can he really trust the owner or the coach at this point in his career. Zero speed on the outside then having to look to see if Sims is still on his man. He will need to spot the D at least 35 just to try to get the win. His parents did warn him, he should have gone to another team………
Just Sell Baby, and so it is….
February 26th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
I am so very tired of all the negitave bloging. I agree time as pased our Mr. Davis all we can do is
hope someone with nothing to lose has so influance on him. I am sure that he would not even lisen put please some one such as. Mr Ryan how he must have some Infulance and respect from Mr Davis maybe he colud
get through to him HA HA HA. I have been a Radier fan since 1961 when we had to go to SF to see the games. I know it would be a dream if we could only field and desient team. I must start looking around for some other team to pull for.
February 27th, 2008 at 9:53 am
The Raiders owner is a joke, and until he is out of there i do not care who the coach is, the players are winning just is not gonna happen..I have been a fan since 1968, I used to get excited about the draft, free agency , and The Raiders getting ready for the new season that is approaching in the future,,,But Al Davis has zapped all such excitement from my raiders soul, and to me i really do not care anymore,,,We can hire the games best coach, field a team of all pros at every postion, select in the top 5 in the draft the next 8, to 10 years, but nothing , I say nothing is gonna change in oakland till Al is out of there..
February 27th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
hello?
February 27th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Jerry M. is full of shit.
February 27th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
I concur Perry,
We are a mess and I just know Al is going to f#$k this draft up by selecting McFadden with the 4th pick AND KEEPING HIM!! We have 3 quality backs yet no quality DE or DT’s, no SS or WR although they are young. We are in a position to get numerous picks to upgrade all the positions we are lacking in yet Al and his passion for speed will give us a excellent 4×100 meter relay team but a 4-12 or worse NFL team.
February 28th, 2008 at 8:26 am
The Management of the Faiders is in Chaos. There is not going to be any trust with-in this team, from the top down. Players both current and ?? will not trust the owner or the coaches at this point in time. Current Faider Players are finding escape routs out to Seattle, with management that wants to win. The only free-agents willing to come here are old pro-bowlers look-en for a paycheck……….The bottom line, even if Coach K. did do good, “Bundy” would unload him. 3 Coaches “Bundy” let go of have a combined, 3 Super’s and 289 wins !! We all know that the Faider record is.
Just sell baby……….and so it is !!
February 28th, 2008 at 8:54 am
The only attention Al Davis can get these days is about his poor teams record, and who will be the coach for the next year,,,Had it not been for The Jon Gruden years when Gruden assembled a Raiders winning team , got us to divisional titles, how many losing seasons would the raiders have had in a row..I mean the man Al Davis has lost it, and as smart as he was early on in his career, he is just that lousy now..
I t is so hard to get excited about anything, the draft, free agency, or the team in general because we have no stablitiy at coach, or direction for this team,,There is no plan, if Kiffin gets fired, then the team must start all over again, and thus Russell must learn a new offence all over again,,This crap needs to stop, AlDavis needs to just shut up, and leave his hands off, he already has proven he cannot do the job anymore,,,
a discusted raiders fan, since 1968
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