Jake Long at No. 4?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, February 29th, 2008 at 1:27 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Just confirmed the Raiders have no intention of moving Robert Gallery back to left tackle. Gallery has talked with line coach Tom Cable and been told he will remain at left guard.
Since Sims’ departure leaves a void at left tackle, it leaves open the possibility that the Raiders would consider Michigan tackle Jake Long with the No. 4 pick in the draft.
Kwame Harris, the free agent scheduled to visit Friday from the 49ers, is considered a right tackle. Given that he watched his entire rookie season from the sidelines, it’s doubtful Mario Henderson, one of three third-round draft picks last season, would be up to being a starting left tackle in Year 2.
The free agent market is light on tackles. Cleveland’s Nat Dorsey is a four-year veteran who was a backup but is regarded as having potential. George Foster of Detroit played in a zone blocking scheme in Denver but was at his best on the right side.
At the NFL scouting combine, 49ers G.M. Scot McCloughan opined that as many as six tackles could go in the first round, but Long may be the only one who would go at No. 4. Boise State’s Ryan Clady operated in a zone blocking scheme in college, comparing it to the Denver Broncos. Clady did not participate in drills in Indianapolis because of pectoral injury sustained during a bench press workout.
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February 29th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
1st
February 29th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
It’d be nice to get C Long
February 29th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Thats it? Thats how it feels to be 1st? WEAK!
February 29th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
wow. us taking Jake long #4. That’s gonna piss off some people.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
I would love to see jake long at #4 b/c he’s a beast, but he will not fit in. It was quoted somewhere that he didnt have great vision when d-line men would come around.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
If clady has recovered and shows it on BSU pro day why not him? He has been Zone Blocking for years.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Cable should know if the boy has got the goods to be an excellent LT. If the kid could have Jamarcus’ back for a half dozen years…
February 29th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
We don’t even know if Jake Long meets Tom Cable’s criteria for a ZBS lineman. My sense is that he doesn’t.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Still think Clady is more nimble, but Cable …
February 29th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Because Clady isn’t worth the #4. Plain and simple. Does Boise State even have a pro day?
February 29th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
And dont give me any of that “too Much of a reach stuff”. Screw that. If you can get a top tier talent in the first round you grab him, I dont care what Kiper or Mayock says on the day. Whether an OLT goes 4th or 11th doesnt make a bit of difference if he has a solid career.
also Jake Long has to be in the front of the Rams Minds at #2 They dont need an RB they have drafted DLine recently and Pace is old.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Perhaps the raiders will clue into the idea that trading down can be a good thing.
I bet some other team may kill for the #4 pick, or at least make a ridiculous trade for it….
Or maybe with the pec injury, the raiders think they can get him on the top end of round #2
because something tells me that the 4.27 or 4.33 /40 that Darren McFadden ran may have suckered Al D like world class speed always does.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
If the player you want to draft is there at #4 then take him and screw the experts. 60% of draftees never pan out no matter which round you “reach” for them in.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
We shouldnt even worry about getting Zone blocking lineman because Cable will leave next year to join Seattle and Jim Mora Jr., leaving us with more turnaround and no sucess.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
The Clown signed with the Fins…2-yrs, $6.25M.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Wolverine, you are right that is very simple why dont you enlighten me as to how much a OLT that fits the system to protect Jamarcus’s back is worth?
What does that mean isnt worth the #4? He wont be around in the 2nd round when we pick again. He fits the ZBS. Big and quick.
You gotta back it up with more than “he aint worth it at number 4″
February 29th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
this sounds like we’ll see the return of Barry Sims,
not that I think it’s a good idea, but what else are we gonna do, St Lousy needs to replace Pace sooner than later…
Didn’t he already restructure once to stay w/ the team?
Bring on Berrian….
February 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Jake Long played two years in the ZBS after Michigan installed it for the 2006 season…and he was a beast in the run game and gave up two career sacks in the passing game. If he is there at #4 and the Raiders believe he is HOF material…I have no problem with the selection.
They shouldn’t be afraid to pick a LT just because Gallery couldn’t hack it at LT. If Long is the highest rated player on their board when the pick is up it’s a no brainer.
It’s not what I really want (Dlineman or DMac for me) but it would not be a horrible selection. Protecting JaMarcus is completely necessary.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
JOSH MCCOWN just signed with Miami. If the teachers pet opted to go, maybe Kiffin really is gone…
February 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
From Rotoworld: 4:36
Free agent Bernard Berrian is reportedly en route to Oakland.
The Vikings couldn’t get him signed immediately, not that they’re entirely out of the running. Berrian is the deep threat big-armed JaMarcus Russell needs and Al Davis has tons of cap room, even after the Tommy Kelly signing.
Source: Chicago Sun Times
February 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Maybe we do have a chance at Briggs, check out this interesting article:
http://www.windycitygridiron.com/story/2008/2/29/16757/8664
February 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Sorry I’ve had one post that didn’t go through since I used a bad word describing Clady.
I look at it this way. I haven’t seen much on Clady yet. He got hurt bench pressing at around 20 reps. He didn’t do any other drills. But he did look big and fat and not very muscular.
Jake Long came and ran faster than people expected (shows quick feet) and benched 37 times. He’s a leader on that Michigan team and even came back for his Senior Year when he could have been a 1st rounder last year.
I guess I’m just scared to use such a high pick on so many unknowns. Trading down and taking Clady, I might be fine with that, but at #4, I just can’t do it.
And this is all null and void anyway because I don’t see Jake Long being around still at #4 and none of us know enough about Cable to know exactly what he sees for his scheme. I do remember reading he told someone at the combine that we’ll find our lineman later in the draft or something to that effect.
Go Raiders.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Draft D Mac,
I dont see why we would have to abandon the ZBS if Cable leaves. More and more Teams run it. Look what it did for us last year.
I agree that what ever coach we get may not be as good as Tom Cable but I dont think a sane team would scrap a system that is working for you.
( I guess the sanity of the Management could be the question)
February 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
DOLPHINS SIGN JOSH MCCOWN by Michael David Smith
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the Miami Dolphins have reached a contract agreement with free agent quarterback Josh McCown.
Per Schefter, the contract is a two-year deal worth $6.25 million. Although that’s a contract more in line with what a backup usually makes, McCown may very well be the Dolphins’ starter in September. Of the three quarterbacks on the Dolphins’ 2007 roster, two — Trent Green and Cleo Lemon — are already gone, and the third — John Beck — was unimpressive in the four games he started.
McCown started nine games for the Raiders last year, completing 58.4 percent of his passes and throwing 10 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. He previously started 22 games for the Cardinals from 2003 to 2005, and he spent the 2006 season with the Lions, where his only regular-season playing time came at wide receiver.
The Dolphins have been the busiest team in the league on a very busy first day of free agency.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
If Cable is gone after next year to be w/ Mora I hope big Al has his eye on another ZB line coach b/c it won’t be easy to transition from ZB to a power block scheme.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I think as usual al-d will yake the best player available I like the legacy boy c-long.
yet mcfadden looks very tempting. we will lose clemons
I don’t mind paying kelly so much money. get rid of
jordan free up some cap space. we need a ss. huff
stays. I hope bush is ready to go this year he could
be huge
February 29th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Sign Berrian & Stallworth Baby!
February 29th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Taking Jake Long would surely piss off the folks at Arrowhead. Snag him up…..
February 29th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Wolverine,
Fair enough- I get the small school, not much info stuff. But I think he will show what he can do at the Pro day.
And I am in agreement with you in J. Long being gone at 4.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
We need to wrap up Tom Cable with a 5 year extension guaranteeing him that he will always be a top 3 paid o-line coach in the NFL…fck Seattle and Mora Jr. Cable is the most important coach we have.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
you know, once we get our free agents signed (at least some big ones in these early days) won’t there need to be a press conference, and won’t Al, and Lane need to be around for it?
February 29th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Good riddance McClown. Maybe the Fin fans will cheer your toughness while throwing pics and losing games. Your faith in God will help you get through that as well I’m sure. Bum.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Quagmire’d Says:
February 29th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
The Clown signed with the Fins…2-yrs, $6.25M.
If its true, that means all the Kiffin Rumors are real, LK and the Clown, cant live without each other
February 29th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Just what the heck did Parcells see in McClown?
February 29th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Wolverine Raider is all over McFadden at #4. How can Al pass up a 215lb RB with 4.27 speed who has been compared to Marcus Allen?
You know you want DMac in Sliver & Black Wolverine.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Maybe Parcells is a huge fan of Rocky 4? I must break you…
February 29th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
One down.
One to go.
Just Win Baby.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
My gut instinct tells me that AD can’t pass on him…surprise, surprise!!
February 29th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
It all starts in the trenches Jjvill. It all starts in the trenches.
And remember that 4.27 was unofficial and the official was 4.33. LOL Sorry Dakota.
Go Raiders.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
4.33 still gets to the outside and spread the D.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Oh I agree I was just kidding with Vill. But then again Chris Johnson ran a 4.24 so then he should really be able to get to the outside.
In reality, we’re drafting the Ghoul at #4. And I pray he’s the next Mario Williams. Lots of similarities in size, speed, etc.
Go Raiders.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I think we need to get a big receiver to give J-Russ a big target either through FA or the draft. Drew Carter from Carolina would be young, cheap FA pickup or J. Hardy from Indiana would be good through the draft in rd 2.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
“Dakota Says:
February 29th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
We need to wrap up Tom Cable with a 5 year extension guaranteeing him that he will always be a top 3 paid o-line coach in the NFL…fck Seattle and Mora Jr. Cable is the most important coach we have.”
Exactly. Cable is da man!
February 29th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Maybe Uncle Al will surprise us with Briggs. We all know we need a LB and he’s very good at what he does. Tie that in with a new FA safety from the NYG. Pick-up Ellis & Law and we are a top 5 maybe a top 3 defense.
DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS…
If we play Miami next year our DB’s can take the day off. The clown can’t throw that far!
February 29th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
New York Giants free-agent safety Gibril Wilson and 49ers free-agent offensive tackle Kwame Harris are visiting the Oakland Raiders
nd it is rumored that bernard berrian will visit oakland n=and if we could sign wilson, harris, and berrian i would have 2 say it is a huge step in the right direction..
February 29th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Dakota
100% correct about Tom Cable and a 5 year extension.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
BREAKING NEWS:
The Miami Dolphins have signed former Raiders’ starting QB, Josh McCown to a three year, $8.1 million dollar deal and a promise to be allowed to compete for the starting spot.
IN OTHER NEWS: In light of the McClown signing in Miami, the NFL has announced that Miami will automatically receive the #1 pick in the 2009 draft.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
But you guys, Adam Schefter on the NFL channel last night said,”Jerry Porter was an excellent #1 WR with the Raiders once and will be again.”
February 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Wolverine Raider Says:
February 29th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Good riddance McClown. Maybe the Fin fans will cheer your toughness while throwing pics and losing games. Your faith in God will help you get through that as well I’m sure. Bum.
Shawnraiders81:
Hey it takes a REAL man to have faith in God in today’s looney world.
But I agree he needs to retire and become a pastor like my man Kauffman
February 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Dakota
I still remain unconvinced regarding Chris Long. He won’t be there anyway due to all the bogus hoopla. Gholston, in my opinion, when it’s all said and done will have shown to have been the real deal. I’d trade away next years #1 to get Ellis as 1A and Gholston as 1B. Our D-line would be well positioned for success now and for the foreseeable years to come.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
I could live with Jake Long I guess. There are plenty of reasons to believe that he will succeed where Gallery failed. Definitly would prefer drafting him over McFadden.
Also, the Broncos released WR Javon Walker. Is there any reason we shouldn’t make a run at this guy? He’s arguably better than Curry. And he’s better than the rest of our WRs by leaps and bounds. He has the speed to take advantage of Russell’s arm. My main concern with him would be that he turns 30 in October. But without a 3rd-round pick, there are only so many immediate needs we can fill in the draft.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Tom Flores, i’m still laughing at post#155 in the Sims thread.
It’s freakin’ killing me…
February 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Harris sounds like a good fit at RT, though I haven’t paid much attention to him in the few 49ers games I’ve watched in recent years.
Dakota, that’s pretty funny about McCown.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Maybe Briggs & Berrian can carpool on their way to Oakland. That way they’d get here quicker using the commute lanes.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
chris long – absolutely monster season, dominating combine performance, great character. How can you remain unconvinced. He’s going #1 so it doesn’t matter anyway.
I have to admit, I had my doubts that he was overhyped being Howie’s son, but after watching him at the combine…..no more doubts at all.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
is Briggs going to visit?
February 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
JB,
Did you watch the combine? Chris Long was all but perfect. He is INTENSE and obviously has a work ethic that transcends normalcy and approaches Kobe Brant’s level. He will not only NEVER take a play off, he will also inspire and lead the defense. He, along with Morrison, will take the reigns of the defense and make sure that no one steps out of line. He will be an irresistible force on defense that will bring greatness and discipline back to the raider defense!
Unless Rob Ryan is still around to fck things up…
Just my humble opinion.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
JB there’s a website called http://www.raiders.com that has next years schedule….The Raiders play MIAMI next season…..I know it’s hard to find that site but it you might find it informative.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
what was Adam Schefter smoking? Porter had a couple of good years but then tanked it when he had to play second fiddle to Moss.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Porter got 30 mil 6 years with the Jags. Good thing we did not pay him that.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
The latest report I read was that Briggs wasn’t getting any calls or takers. Uncle Al should send his Jet Blue to pick him up and bring him back to Oakland for lunch & a chat. He’s more likely to get the big payday here than anywhere else. And, he’s a priority need in Oakland.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Porter sucks, not fast and lacks heart.
Pure and simple.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Shawnraiders81 and Wolverine Raider- As you both know, there is only one god and his name is …AL DAVIS.
Just Win Baby.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Thanks ToozFan
I love the comedy in here and have found myself laughing so hard I cry sometimes…. I am happy to add a little humor to the board when I can…
February 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
EXLA,
Adam only watches the Raiders when they play the Broncos, so he has seen Porter at his best…the snow game.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
From Rotoworld – 1:36
Free agent DE Ebenezer Ekuban will visit the Raiders Friday.
Ekuban is recovering from a torn Achilles. Denver may up their offer to him just to keep him away from Al Davis.
Source: MyFoxColorado.com
Related: Raiders
February 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Kelly’s $50 mil doesn’t look as ridiculous as Porter’s $30 mil.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
so play Briggs in the middle and mover Morrison to the outside? That would be pretty sweet.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
does anyone think that perhaps McCown will be a stop gap like he was for us in Oaktown ???
After Miami just signed a DT I am perplexed…who do you think Parcells is taking now at number 1…???
Maybe he is gearing up for a trade..down or he really is thinking Matt Ryan at QB ???
February 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Clemons is now visiting the Eagles. They are going to try to steal our young pass rusher like we stole Burgess.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
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February 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Clemons isn’t half the player Burgess is. Clemons had one OK season.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Dakota
No question that he did well on the combine but playing against NFL level talent is a little different than some track and field events. Heart – Yes. Talent – Yes. Strength – OK but not exceptional. Weight – A little on the slim side in my opinion.
I just think when the NFL BIG UGLIES start doubling him the shine in his star is going to dull a bit.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
I thinking more and more they may take Long too if they can get him. Seems Al is building a tall, fast defense again that can get alot of interceptions and block kicks. Sands is 6′7″ Kelly 6′6″ 2 top paid dl we got.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
ESPN has their new mock draft up and has us taking Dorsey. Dorsey or Ellis?
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=3270327&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft08%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dmcshay_todd%26id%3d3270327
February 29th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
McClown wasn”t a stopgap. He was a leak.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
I don’t know rr’s pickled liver, he is a hell of a lot younger than Burgess. He still has a lot of time to develop and showed promise last year. I love Burgess, and I have think we have somewhat mucked him over by giving Sands and Kelly big $, but I think Clemons will be good too.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Lets sign Hugo Hurley from Lost. That fatboy is like 400 lbs. With incredible manboobs too
February 29th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Tom Flores,
I hope he isn’t thinking of having McClown be Matt Ryans mentor
February 29th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
thi sa long thread already..havent even had time to read everything but I agree that Jake Long will be long gone by number 4 even if he wasn’t gone he may not even fit into Cables ZBS scheme…
Its Gholston or Clady if we pick a lineman…my money is on Gholston…
We Defintely NEED a LT that can hold up against Merriman…and other beasty speed rushers but Jake Long is probably not that guy since Gholston handed him his hat when they played against one another.
I dont know who that guy is…but I sure hope he comes to Raider Nation soon…for Russells sake.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
For me, if it’s between Dorsey and Ellis, I go Dorsey, but ONLY if Dorsey’s health concerns are cleared up. I’ve heard it’s a stress fracture in that leg. Now that’s a major concern for me if true.
For Ellis, Mayock negative says he gets washed easily. Any USC fans on here that can give us an honest opinion on Ellis?
Go Raiders.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
EX
you made me laugh my ass off !!!
I think Drew is coming back for that…Parcells will talk him into being a Dolphin for one year…
February 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
If 6 tackles “could go in the 1st round” then we could get a guy like Clady with the #35 pick. Six guys won’t go. There are 31 picks in the 1st. When draft gurus say 6 tackles, 6 RB’s, 5 DT’s yadayada – it adds up to more than 31.
If Harris can play RT I ouldn’t be shocked to see MacQ given a run at LT. It makes no sense to let Sims go unless you hav a SOLID plan on replacing him. Even drafting Jake Long is far from a solid plan. Like Jerry said, drafting Tackles is far from a sure bet. Plus Long is not exactly a good fit.
The speed with which McCown and Porter signed tells you how weak this FA group is.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Tom,
Here is my take on Miami and the first 4 picks:
No way anyone trades down for the #1 pick, no one wants to pay that kind of money. So they are stuck with the #1 pick. They don’t like the BYU kid that the last administration picked in round 2. They signed McClown who has proven his ability to be a team player while breaking in a #1 QB. Chris Lone is not big enough to play DE in their 3-4 system. Dorsey and Ellis are both too small to be a NT in a 3-4 (think Sam Adams and Ted Washington for that system). No way they reach for Jake Long or Vernon….that pretty much leaves you with Matt Ryan IMHO.
Rams then take Jake Long to replace Pace.
Falcons shy away from McFadden and their new d-coordinator runs a 4-3 defense so they select Chris Long or Vernon. Knowing this, they trade down to #6 and select Vernon G.
Jets select McFadden.
Raiders select Chris Long.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Wait a minute, Gholston didn’t hand Long his hat in that game. He got a sack on him which started putting Gholston’s name out there for sure, but one sack in a game isn’t exactly dominating Long. It was a huge deal as it was only the second sack Long had given up in his career. Just wanted to clear that up a bit.
Go Raiders.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Hey EXLAX, that would ruin the kid….lol.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
sorry about the ZBS scheme..thats a bit redundant
February 29th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
alright Wolverine Raider…point made…but I detect a bit of protectionism here…you being a Michigan guy and all
February 29th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
if we can get javon walker, berrian, or stallworth in FA and draft either doucet or hardy in the 2nd, pair those 2 WRs with curry and have higgins develope/provide competition/come off the bench then this would be a very respectable WR core, then draft j.long, mcfadden, or a DL, we would at least be in the wild card discussion at the end of the season if russell can play at least average w/those WRs
February 29th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
I’d guess that Harris will get a look at Left Tackle. McQ looked solid at RT.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
To those of you who couldn’t understand why the Kelly overpayment was a bad thing – go buy your discount Chris Clemmons jerseys.
EVERYTHING a team does has repercussions. Overpaying Kelly may have cost us our best young pass rusher. Plus, if we draft or sign much needed D-line help, guess what the Kelly deal does to the price of that help?
February 29th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Harris at LT and McQ at RT sounds like a pretty terrible duo to me.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Tom Flores,
Fair enough, but I honestly can’t say if I’d pick Jake Long or Gholston if they were both available. Tough call for sure.
Look at what Joe Thomas did for Cleveland in his first year. But look at what Mario Williams did for the Texans in his second year.
I think we’ll get a great player at #4. I can’t wait.
Go Raiders.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I still think they pick Gholston and Laws first and second rounds.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Wow Hobs, add those two salaries to the Burgess, Kelly and Sands contracts and we might have the most expensive, and unproven d-line in the NFL.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
COW, I agree. I was hoping to see Clemons back up Burgess and take over as the starter at LE next year, with Sands/Kelly/Warren as the main three inside, and Jay Richardson rotating with Chris Long at RE. Now we have no long-term answer at LE, we have only Richardson who provides very little pash rush at RE, and we can’t really justify adding Dorsey or Ellis to DT because of the $ we are playing Kelly.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
wolverine, gallery didnt give up a sack in his college career ……. i think, but im sure he didnt give up any sacks his last two years
February 29th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Dakota, you seen what a DL can do for a team. Giants
February 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Trevor…Clemens weighs 240 lbs, no way he was going to be our starting DE. He is moving to OLB with the Eagles according to reports out of Philly. Let the Eagles over pay for a guy that has bounced around the NFL for four years and has had only 1 decent year.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
draft or sign a LT..do not move gallery.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Laws I believe is every bit as good as Dorsey or Ellis, the man has strength and he is nimble. Like what they were doing with Sapp. That may be the answer to Turdell and Kelly getting and keeping fresh?
February 29th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Daniel, sure but do you only compare Gallery and Long because they are from the Big 10?
Go Raiders.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
If we sign Berrian and draft Jake Long we’ll be in wildcard contention? LOL stop it, I’m dying here. LOL yeah, Jake Long if he outperforms Sims would eliminate a few sacks and Berrian MAY be a slight improvement over Porter so yippee! We win 5-6 more games?
So far we lost our best DT, our best pass rusher in terms of sacks per snaps and everybody forgets – OUR D COST US FAR MORE GAMES THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
Long and Berrian can watch teams run at will on Burgess and Sands from the sidelines better than Sims and Porter did?
February 29th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Dakota as usual you are right on with your analysis I was wondering myself if ATL would select DMAC after the whole VICK experience…
I for one, would welcome Long…I just didn’t think he would be around at number 4 …that why I thought Gholston would be our guy…if what you predict rings true…Al Davis is gonna have a really tough time choosing between a legacy guy that promises to be even better than dad…and a beast like Gholston. Everyone knows that Al Davis called Howie and tried drag him outta retirement and get him to suit up again for the S & B just a few years ago…
if Al Davis felt that we were in such dire straits then..what is he thinking now ???
Raiders need to make the D line their priority and that seems to be what they are doing…I still think we coudl use LB help and we still have a shot at Briggs…damn the Cap…we cna drop even more weak links in the chain and get into the Briggs game..no one else is even calling because they think his price tag is gonna be too high…but not for Al Davis !
“now is the time to strike BIG AL…(I mean Darth Vader)…now is the time to strike with your deathray and knock out all the competition !!!
February 29th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
I guess since Kelly is moving to DT we could go with the Kelly/Warren/Sands combo at DT. Draft DE – Gholston or C.Long. We’d have DE combo of Burgess/Richardson/Rookie 1st rdr. I just don’t know if that will be good enough against the run to improve. I have just had my heart set on a big DT w/ the first pick. I can’t see us picking J.Long b/c of Gallery and the job Cable did last year with the flaming bag of crap we handed him.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Hobs, I agree, I like Laws too, I happen to be a ND fan. That being said, if we draft either C. Long or Vernon in round 1, or either of the DTs, I think we will have to go OL or WR in round 2. Just way too much invested in one part of your team if you go d-line rounds 1 and 2 don’t you think? I know how good the giants are, but I bet if you compared salaries the raiders would be spending a lot more on theirs than are the Giants.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
6-yrs, $57M for Samuel. Gotta pay Nnamdi something similar to that….20M guaranteed….32M paid out over the first 3 yrs.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
COW – “win 5-6 more games” ? That would put us at 9-7 or 10-6, hell yeah I would take that compared to the misery that has been the last 5 years. I’d take that right now if it was offered to me.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I have a bad feeling that the Broncos are going to end up getting Briggs. They have release Gold and cleared some space by dropping Walker…I would hate to see that.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Please Al, the Turd is flushed. Do not bring Barry Sims back under any circumastances!!
February 29th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Flaming bag of crap, well put.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
wolverine , looking to stats in college is useless, a RB can have 3000 yards and still be a bust, it depends what your system is and what players you have sorrounding him
February 29th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
I’m tired of reading all the crap on this blog anymore so I don’t know if any of you know this but we don’t have McLown to kick around anymore
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/bucky_brooks/02/29/mccown/index.html
February 29th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Lance Briggs@MLB(via free agengy, with Morrison and Howard@OLB’s) + G.Wilson@SS(via free agency) + M.Huff@FS + T.Laws@DT(via 2nd round pick)= Top 5 defense, if not #1.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Just think if the Raiders had gone after Parcell’s as the GM the Raiders could have been as active as the fins. I would not bash McCown, he didn’t get a lot of help or support
February 29th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Coach on Wheels (maddenraider) is right…we can’t expect to get to the play-offs this year with just two guys..it takes a team effort and for every FA we sign and every guy we draft to be a starter from day 1…folks wea ren;t even close…BUT…we are two great drafts from pulling our RV into the neighborhood (as Morris says) if we do well in both areas.
Or… we could sit back and pick lent out of our bellies and do nothin’
February 29th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
#1 pick should be Mcfadden, Richardson and Burgess are fine@DE.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
SC Raiders, I think COW’s point was that it would take 5-6 more wins to get into the playoffs, and in a tongue-in-cheek way, he was saying Long and Berrian are not going to get us close to 5-6 more wins.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Dakota & others
Quit worrying about the payroll. It’s Uncle Al’s checkbook and all is good as long as the checks don’t bounce. The Raiders have a history of being able to maneuver around the Salary Cap so let’s let them do their job and not worry about things we can’t control.
And, the first two picks for D players is NOT too much.
DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS! Just as Belecheat what he thinks about the importance of D-lines.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
C4: A few problems with that. 1. The Raiders don’t pay big bucks for LBs, and Briggs will command big bucks. 2. Briggs is an OLB, not a MLB. 3. Gibril Wilson is a FS, not a SS.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Well considering roughly what 75-85% of opinions made on draft picks come from game tape when they were in college, I just can’t agree.
Sometimes a draft pick doesn’t work out. Heck it’s a crapshoot really. But when we picked Gallery, everyone was raving how we have our LT for the next 10 years.
If you can’t look at college stats, I find it hard to even have a starting point on judging talent. Surely combine stats aren’t the final decider or even a pro day of the players.
Go Raiders.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Gholstom or C. Long in round 1 and Trevor Laws in round 2….as works for me as long as we address WR and OT in the rounds following…
we need an LB folks to assist our D line in stopping the run…Dakota any news yet on Briggs other than no news…???
February 29th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Dakota, I don’t care how much Al spends the line of scrimmage is the key to the game. The O-line is not a particular concern of mine maybe for some depth, it’s clear they want Harris to go LT but the D-Line killed has killed the Raiders for many years now, they have the DB’s and LB’s they need beasts on the D-line. Gholston, I was not sold on him until his Bench Press and 40 session.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Gee, okay, let’s forget about the salary cap when discussing possible players…lol.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
you just heard from CABLE, our lineman are in the bottom rounds of the draft, why would we spend the 4th overall pick for someone whos gonna be a RT and doesnt fit the ZBS
February 29th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Yeah WR is a must but they don’t have a third rounder, bummer there.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
C$
I agree with you…we are close enough on D if we make the right pick-ups in FA this year to draft our way into respectability.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
listen to me, I sound like Al Davis salivating over Ricky Dudley the fine specimen he was. Gholston
February 29th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Having had the pleasure of watching Gholson play last year (I now live in the Buckeye State) I can tell you he put up with both double and triple teams and chip shots and never quit. Even Long got help with him. I was impressed even though I am a USC alum.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
McQuistan played LT in college. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see that switch happen.
Hobs -
I’m with you on Laws. Hopefully he’s there at pick #34. I wouldn’t take him in the 1st round though.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Trevor
Wilson was a SS previously… and Al Davis WILL pay Briggs and we dont need an MLB…an OLB…I think Morrison proved he can do it anywhere on the field last year…Briggs can go outside or inside who cares…he is a solid LB and we need some solid LB play this year…
February 29th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Source: Raiders close to signing Wilson
by Jay Glazer
New York Giants free safety Gibril Wilson is close to accepting a six-year, $39 million contract with Oakland, FOXSports.com has learned. The deal would include a $16 million signing bonus.
It’s believed the Giants are unwilling to match the offer.
Wilson is coming off his best NFL season with 92 tackles, seven passes defensed and a career-high four interceptions. Wilson also had 27 tackles in four playoff games.
The Wilson signing wouldn’t bode well for Raiders safety Michael Huff. The seventh overall pick in the 2006 draft, Huff is on the trading block after two disappointing seasons.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
We should soon see how serious Davis is, any crazy picks and we know he is sand bagging it and laughing all the way to the bank. Sorry Dakota McFadden doesn’t make sense unless they bag him and trade him for lets say Dallas’ first rounder along with a third.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
How the hell did Gruden and Allen get so much cap room?
February 29th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
They make a pretty good team!
February 29th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Well in who’s opinion doesn’t he fit the ZBS scheme. I guess it depends on what exact ZBS since Michigan ran one since 2006.
I never said take Long at #4 for sure. I asked how he’s Gallery and it’s been taken from there. I guess with getting rid of Sims (who I couldn’t stand) I just start to worry who in the heck we’re going to have blocking JR’s backside. JR is the franchise and if that much money is on the sidelines hurt, we’re screwed no matter what.
And I didn’t hear from Cable. I think it was an article from Jerry or something a few days back where I read that Cable comment.
Look I just want to win like the rest of you. Picking #4, a lot of the decisions on the pick are going to be made for us by who goes in the Top 3. Plain and simple.
Go Raiders.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
the only thing keeping us from the play-offs ( dare I say it) is a solid D…we can fluder for a few years at Offense and still make it…(Chicago) all we need is to plug the whole in the middle and force guys to throw into our coverage…which I believe is pretty solid when you throw in another solid saftey.
Guys have gotten burned in our secondary..but thats too be expected with any QB worth his salt able to look at his number 3 or 4 receiver…4 or 5 seconds is way too long to let a QB survey the field…
February 29th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Have a feeling we will plug the other DE position with Jevon Kearse…
February 29th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
I have to admit though, as negative as I have been I have the optimism of preseason right now. You know what they say about us Raider fans, we think we are going to win the super bowl every year, lmao.
I wonder if there was any truth to the rumor Chris Long didn’t want to come here. He didn’t sound to enthused when asked.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Wait…who did Miami pick up at DT in Free Agency…Ferguson from Dallas? If thats the only big name DT they picked up that does not rule them out selecting DT at slot #1 as Ferguson is purely for depth at the position
February 29th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
that should say flounder….sorry guys
February 29th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
6 years, $39 Mill, $16 Mill signing bonus for Wilson…Raider Nation, prepare to eat more shite from everyone in the media and NFL.
Also, if we sign Wilson to replace Huff, we have not improved ourselves that much. I hope that report is wrong about Huff…
February 29th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Huff to FS, if all else fails.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
SUPER BOWL OR BUST!
JUST KIFF BABY!
February 29th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
RRpickled
thanks for news on Gibril..I hope this does NOT mean we will trade Huff…simply that we now have a knockout punch tandem …finally… at saftey and that as Dakota has said repeatedly…
pack yo bags STU…
February 29th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
In my humble yet correct opinion, this is wonderful news if it happens,..Jake Long is who I want with that # 4 pick,…no other player worth a fig outside of Howies kid,.who I also wouldnt mind having,..but our O line blows,..period,..I like Jake Longs attitude, strength,..etc…perfect fit.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
If we awarded the highest DT contract in history to retain Tommy Kelly and on the verge of awarding another hefty contract just south of $40 Million at SS for Gibril and nab Berrian or Javon…….It certainly looks like we are LOADING up seriously for a huge push at a Super Bowl Run!!!! I mean something tells me between the Kiffin fiasco and the money were throwing around at the Free Agency and our pick at #4 that Al Davis realizes he doesnt have many more chances at his age and health conditions……
February 29th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
I don’t think Jake Long compares to Gallery at all. He definately has more strength
February 29th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
wow, what a waste michael huff was
February 29th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Dakota,
Who cares what the media says. Remember we are the S&B.
Just Win Baby! By the way, do we still have enough money for uniforms or will we have to rent them this year?
February 29th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
M.I.A., Super Bowl run?? Are you kidding me? No overnight fix is gonna help this team. There is way too much turmoil going on in the organization, especially when the players don’t even know what the hell is going on.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
We should try and sign both Walker as well as Berrian.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Hobs
I read a quote from C. Long saying he will play his ass off whether he is picked by Oakland or not. Which is exactly the attitude he should have. He has to play his own game not his dads. which by the way he has done very well.
no outright negativity toward the Raiders though
February 29th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
grabbing winners in FA are a key addition to this team and the attitude that they come with is contagious in a locker room…AL Davis has always known this and this move only reinforces my belief that he is serious about improving key positions that he feels have held us back and cost us the 3 or 4 wins a year that makes us a respectable team…
We are two players away now boys…LB and WR…the rest can be dealt with in the draft…
February 29th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Does anyone have any idea how much cap space we have left?????
February 29th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
is 39M too high for Gibril Wilson?
February 29th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Now I would not mind Jake Long, but I think if they became a running team and pass when necessary with a dominant D, they could get by with the o-line they have with the addition of Harris. Especially with JR still baby stepping
February 29th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
I think that both of the Longs will be taken b4 our pick.(J.Long-STL, C.Long-ATL, ‘Matt Ryan to MIA’). We will end up taking Mcfadden or Gholston. I would be perfectly happy with either one. T.Laws (DT) should be our 2nd round pick if we can get some good WR FAs, like Stallworth, Hackett, or Berrian,(or all three), if we cant get them, then I think we have to take somebody like Hardy (WR) in the secod round. We must give JR some targets if we want to see any progression out of him. Hopefully Cable can find some gems in the later rounds for our ZBS, because we desperatly need a LT as well.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Not based on what Williams got from the Vikings….
February 29th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Gibril Wilson
He’s been a productive yet unheralded safety for the Giants since being selected in the 5th round of the ‘04 draft. The team is doing all it can to resign Wilson, who may end up inking a deal with division foe Philadelphia. -SI.com From Top 15 NFL Free Agents
February 29th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Wilson is close to signing with us….based on that and the Kelly signing it looks like the Raiders will have to overpay free agents in order to get them to sign. Not surprised one bit.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
I really do think the Kelly deal nixed the Broncos talks with Rogers.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
It’s official…Wilson is in!!!
February 29th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
wilson is a raider
February 29th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
What’s going to happen with Huff now?
February 29th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Huff to FS…
February 29th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
we can’t trade huff that would put us back we play a lot of man coverage so we need a good S to cover the TE and one to roam the field and make plays, Wilson and Huff had similar numbers except that Wilson had 4 INT and Huff had 1 but Huff wasn’t a INT machine at Texas anyways he never got more than 2 per season go ahead and check the stats i’m pretty sure
February 29th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
EXLARaider makes a great point about Gholston. The kid is used to fighting thru double and triple teams. Quentin Moses our 3rd rounder last year had a monster Jr year and was doubled and tripled his senior year, where he just gave up. Notice how we’re targeting high motor guys now?
February 29th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
huff will stay and i will predict he will go to the pro bowl
February 29th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
what an idiot Jay Glazer is. he says, the G.Wilson “doesn’t bode well for Huff” and says Huff likely will be traded.
newsflash. A team needs two safeties. Huff plays in one spot, Wilson in the other.
There’s no way Huff is getting traded. Just one media rumor that gets repeated by every other media hack because they know rumors = page hits = advertising dollars.
With the internet, it’s just media hacks repeating what they read elsewhere. Just look at this site. Jerry hasn’t posted any original reporting in a while. He just repeats what he reads of PFT.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
players tend to brake out in ther 3rd year
February 29th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Hazard Pay in Oakland…lolololol…see how the league and media play when they’re so busy trying to discredit the Raiders..don’t pay attention, AL..
February 29th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Wilson is one hell of a Free Agent signing wouldn’t you say?
Some people wanted you to believe that no free agent worth a damn would sign with the Raiders. Big surprise that person was WRONG!
Cheers Oakglenn!
February 29th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
players tend to brake out in ther 3rd year
——–
exactly. Nnamdi didn’t light it up his first few years. According to the Jerry McDonald thinking, we should have dumped Nnamdi becuase long ago because he didn’t have enough interceptions his first few years (Jerry thinks counting ints is the only way to evaluate a DB). Players need time to develop. Fargas is another example. Examples all over.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Just waiting on the Harris announcement ..
Wonder what that means for Berriman. Will there be enough dough?
February 29th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
hey the Saints came close a couple years back …dont be so ridiculous about us making a run…give Russell two years and it could happen…
they had Brees…otherwise I would say we could do it in one !!!
a little fantastic I agree…but why not?
February 29th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
where is the wilson announcement?
February 29th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
http://www.profootballtalk.com/RUMORMILL.HTM
February 29th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Man, im kinda nervous drafting another O-lineman with our 1st pick again.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
All I have to say is there has been some funny a$$ $hit said in here today. From going to help Porter pack his $hit to renting equipment. LOL! It’s nice to hear a postive tone for once.
If Kiffin can get it done this year and we can smell the playoffs. I say all is forgiven with Kiff and Al.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Dogg, I believe people were saying the Raiders would have to over pay FA and they are. A player will take the bank when it comes to them no matter who they play for.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
so if the media was wrong Al Davis being broke and lied about no free agents wanting to come here ….then how many of you idiots still believe the crap about Kiffin and Davis????
February 29th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
“daniel Says:
February 29th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
huff will stay and i will predict he will go to the pro bowl”
This is a make or break year for Huff. I think he’s got a chance now..with Wilson starting along side him.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
All we need to know now is what’s the plan for Burgess?
Wonder if he is going to be traded, or if we plan to have him on board in light of Richardson’s play last year, and Gholston or Long being available at 4?
While some may say that the Kelly deal impacted Clemmons not signing, I’d say it was more of Gholston’s and Long’s helluva combine.
Wouldn’t it be ironic for the two OSU guys(Richardson and Gholston) to end up as S&B bookends?
I think they like Thomas, Howard, Williams, and Morrison as a LB combo, so they may not try and get Briggs.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Yes! Now maybe we can finish 3rd in the AFC West.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
since when is outbidding an opponent at an open auction considered overpaying??????????
February 29th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Davis is not broke. He’s notoriously cheap. Plus he just got limited partners to infuse has pockets.
February 29th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Long live Al.
Just Win Baby.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Uh-Oh. Draft Beer went to the liquor store early today! He’s already in a blackout drunk.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Where did some of you find that Wilson is a Raider? I’ve looked on NFL.com and ESPN, and I can’t find anything…
Draft Clady in the second round for the LT spot; I too, am of the opinion that J.Long would be a very expensive fix to replace Sims.
We still need to draft either Dorsey or Ellis with that #4 pick…jmho…
Thank God the Panthers signed Porter…can’t wait to see Asomugha or Routt shut him down next year…what an overhyped blowhard…
February 29th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Look either Al was afraid of Kelly going to Denver ala McGlockton and KC or he was trying to drive up the price to stick it to Denver with the Rogers deal pending. Outbidding for someone who has done nothing is impressive but making that same player the highest paid Defensive linemen in history is a little overpaying.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Hell yes first day im happy.Just draft gholston & cromartie and were there
February 29th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
If we got Berrian and Briggs I would be speachless.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Just Tackle Baby…
February 29th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
He’s not signed yet…they’re finalizing the agreement.
Jacksonville signed Porter…not Carolina.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
with consistant and dominating pressure on the QB and the ability to stuff the run…(or in the Rob Ryan style defense, slowing the opposing running backs down a little) the current LB’s and secondary with addition of Wilson should play hell on their opponents this season.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
nfl.com
Raiders land former Giant safety Wilson
Oakland continued the spending frenzy it started before free agency.
The Raiders reached an agreement with former New York Giants free-agent safety Gibril Wilson on a six-year contract worth $39 million, including $16 million guaranteed. The Giants had a rough Friday. They lost Wilson, and linebackers Kawika Mitchell and Reggie Torbor.
–Adam Schefter
February 29th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
pft.com all
February 29th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
I just want to laugh at a big hit evry now and then. Hope its not too much to ask Gibril…
February 29th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
R8R, if the Raiders got Berrian and Briggs I would stop saying Davis is cashing it in.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Looks like there are no more excuses for Coach Rob Ryan.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
The Jets got Faneca
February 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Gibril. wtf kind of name is that? haha! lol! roflmao! ….I just puked…..
February 29th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
My bad, Sean Salisbury…Doh! Thanks for the info on Wilson everyone…man oh man…I can’t wait to see Wilson blow up someone next year…
February 29th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Sims posted a sweet “adios” on the raiders website.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
What an upgrade from Stu to Wilson
Night and Day if it holds true
February 29th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
This has had to be one of the best 1st FA days ever. I even have read some anti AD’s giving the old guy some love. It makes it even sweeter when the media is going nuts with their venom.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
speaking of adam shitner i am finally convinced he is against the raiders. he was laughing at the raiders for signing kelly and made a comment that nobody in the league even knows who he is. yet ive read a few articles saying that a few teams were ready to pounce with an offer. For some reason if some other team signed kelly for that money he probably wouldve been like that was a great move lol. what a douchebag
February 29th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Wilson will be moved back to SS. You guys this is NOT a done deal yet, but it does look like it is gonna happen. And for all you nay sayers, we needed a SS, and the Godfather went out and got the premier SS in free agency. Oh no, Oakglenn, no free agents are ever gonna come here!!! Everyone who said that gets to kiss my ass for free.
The good news about Wilson is he’s exactly what we are looking for, fast with size, good insticts, a natural strong safety with experience in the league and a leader on a World Championship team. The bad news is he has the tendency to “freelance” too much, which either makes plays or gets himself and everyone else in trouble. Have you guys heard that story before?? Bottom line: We’re REALLY glad to have him!
February 29th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
hopefully gibril continues to be a good player. im just a lil leary of a guy who has a good year but becasue his team won the superbowl his satus as a player gets elavated. see brown larry or howard desmond.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Gibril Wilson is a Bonafide player in this league
he is no Larry Brown or Desmond Howard, he is no D-Rhodes. I just hope that after winning the SB he’s just looking to cash in and take it easy with the raiders.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Oakglenn, per profootballtalk.com we just signed Wilson. Go Raiders!!
February 29th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
*not looking to cash in and take it easy
February 29th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
I think his name is Girbil, Hugh G…lol.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Did someone in here say Girbil???
February 29th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
LMAO!
February 29th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
We should sign DJ Hackett.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
I’ll bet Al Davis doesn’t give a squirt of pi$$ about scheme. He’ll draft Jake Long in a second even if he is a bad fit for a LT in Cable’s scheme.
89 million for two very average defensive players? Al still hasn’t gotten the hang of this free agency thing.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Hackett to visit. Why would we put a rookie LT in to protect our franchise Jerry?
February 29th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
The Jets did not get him. The report was false
# Pissed off Raider Fan Says:
February 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
The Jets got Faneca
February 29th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Raiders need a solid left tackle now and about 10 receivers for next year. I say trade down, take a 1st and a 3rd round pick and try to go for Ryan Clady who better fits the zone blocking scheme at left tackle. In the 2nd round go for a big receiver for JaMarcus like Limas Sweed if he falls, James Hardy, or maybe even a Devin Thomas from MSU. 3rd round go for a Jordy Nelson from KSU.
February 29th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Hackett would be perfect. I’ve mentioned here before that Berrian was interviewed on Sirius during the Afternoon Drive, and he was asked if Oakland or SF would be on his radar. He LAUGHED at the notion of signing with a team like the Raiders and said we were disfunctional, then went on to say that he grew up a Niner fan and would love to play there. I’ll take Hackett just because he was smart enough not to say something so bold going into FA.
February 29th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Where did it say that Hackett was visiting? Can’t find it anywhere.
February 29th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
TCMA, you are kidding me about Berrian? If that is true I sure hope that AD heard it too!! Thas is BS!! There are plenty of WR’s in the draft!! BS!!
February 29th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Old Raider Fan – It’s no joke. I’m in Sales and spend a lot of time on the Freeway, thus I listen to Sirius all day. He was interviewed two weeks after the Super Bowl by Adam Shine and Solomon Wilcotts. They popped the question about coming to Oakland and I almost puked when I heard the sarcasm in his laugh. The laugh was similar to a teen ager when they’ve just pulled a prank on the teacher. I was so pissed because I live 20 minutes from where he played High School Football, plus I’ve attended several Fresno State games when he was playing. I was really pulling for Al to sign him, but once I heard the interview I became a huge DJ Hackett fan.
February 29th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Does anyone know how to replay archived Sirius interviews? I’d love for all of you to have a link to listen to it. I’ll work on finding one. It sounds immature on my behalf to be so offended, but his response was unacceptable, and if he signs it will be a clear indication that he was making a cash grab.
February 29th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Whats up Mistabrown!
February 29th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
TCMA, well to hell with him then!! Doesn’t he have a reputation of dropping passes? Hell man, JLH can probably out run him anyway!! I know he needs help but, we now have Mr. Lofton to help with his catching now and would rather pay his salary than what Berrian would be asking!! What is your opinion?
February 29th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
New post for a while now.
February 29th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
trade down and take ryan clady and acquire more picks pick up a MLB in the draft and move morrison back to OLB where he’ll be a bigger beast
February 29th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
what have I missed…??? I had an emergency and left in the middle of the craziest day in football….any news on FA interview sightings in Oaktown…???
February 29th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
funny how you would always read that the problem with the Raiders’ offense (at least one of them) was the the lack of a deep threat with Curry and Porter.
now you read things like this on pro football weekly:
The Jaguars addressed a major need Friday, signing ex-Raiders WR Jerry Porter, providing a deep threat for David Garrard.
February 29th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Jake Long makes it a plan in place.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Do you guys think it would be possible for the Raiders to draft an impact defensive player & maybe Sam Baker will be available in the 2nd?
February 29th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Personally, I like T Jake Long cuz I’m a Michigan fan, but he’s not what we need in our system. We don’t need elite lineman for the zone blocking scheme. Mcfadden will fall to us at #4 now only cuz of character issues. The Raiders will trade the #4 pick to Dallas for the 22nd & 28th pick plus maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick in this years draft. I think it would benefit us if this happens. First with the 22nd pick plus a 4th round pick we inch up a couple spots to grab one of the other 2 franchise backs, more than likely RB Johnathan Stewart from Oregon, 5′11 237 4.4. With the 28th pick I would look at WR Limas Sweed from Texas, if not, I would take WR Desean Jackson out of Cal. So we get two very good players for the price of one Darren Mcfadden. Believe me with our signings we are positioned right now to pick a RB! His name right now is Darren Mcfadden! We can benefit from this if he’s there at 4 which i believe will happen. Jerry Jones really wants this kid and Al will give him to the Cowboys for their two first round picks plus another later pick. 2nd round we can go maybe OT Sam Baker from USC or LOLB Erin Henderson from Maryland? If we acquire a 3rd round pick instead of a 4th rounder I say draft DT Frank Okam from Texas or S Tom Zbowski from Notre Dame? 4th round I would draft DE/OLB Marcus Howard or G/T Pedro Sosa.
February 29th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
I hope Al Davis is still talking to the Falcons about CB Deangelo Hall. I’m ready to trade S Michael Huff, CB Routt or Fabian Washington, and DT Terdell Sands to the Atlanta Falcons right now for Deangelo Hall and a draft pick. I think this trade benefits both teams. This is a better trade than a possible 1st and 3rd from the Giants that they are currently offering. This would be an insurance move for us cuz Nmandi can leave after next year and we better have a proven lockdown corner in place in case this happens. At the very least we could have the pair atleast for 1 or maybe 2 years if the raiders franchise him again. We can’t afford losing CB Nmandi and be left with Fabian washington and Stanford Routt as our corners. We better try and get Deangelo Hall right now!!! Even if that means that Huff has to go. We got SS Gibril Wilson now and he gives us some stability at the position. Raider fans need to get on board to try to express to the Raiders organization that this needs to happen! note: Don’t be surprised if DT Warren Sapp comes out of his temporary retirement, his papers have not been filed yet!
February 29th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Come on Al, bring CB Deangelo Hall to Oakland!!! We will now have the best cornerback tandem in the league baby!!! Who are u gonna throw the ball at now?
February 29th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Raiders draft 2008
Trade with cowboys. #4 pick overall for 22nd & 28th pick in the first round plus a fifth round pick.
1) RB Johnathan Stewart-Oregon
1) WR Limas Sweed-Texas
2) LT Sam Baker-USC
3) DT Frank Okam-Texas
4) DE/OLB Marcus Howard-Georgia
5) OG/T Pedro Sosa-Rutgers
The rest of the picks don’t matter cuz they won’t make the team.
Free Agent Targets
1) SS Gibril Wilson
2) WR Donte’ Stallworth a.k.a StarWeezy!(Local product out of SAC who would want to play for us unlike injury prone Benard Berrian. Go to the forty winers, we don’t need you! Plus Stallworth will be a lil cheaper.
3) RT Kwame Harris(won’t hurt for him to challenge Paul Mcquistan for the starting job. Maybe a system change is what he needs, he was drafted in the 1st round for a reason.)
February 29th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
we need to look at the small acqusitions like TE Jason Dunn whom i believe is the best blocking TE in the league. He would definetly benefit our running game. And our TE situation is set!
February 29th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
If we can’t get WR Stallworth we better make a pitch for WR Bryant Johnson whom is big, fast, and can stretch the field. I think he’s set to visit Chicago next week.
February 29th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Heck I would throw RB Dominic Rhodes in the deal for CB Deangelo Hall.
February 29th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
RK25 – I’m all over the Stallworth bandwagon.
He lit it up as a Pacer out of Grant (in SAC as mentioned) – he has never come to fruition of a 1000 yd season in the pros, but he again has always been kinda second fiddle to established players. This would be his chance to shine!
March 1st, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Man, PLEASE don’t waste another first rounder on a OL. How many OL hae the Raiders drafted only to not be able to develop them? Last season they picked up Carlilse in FA and that worked out well. If Raiders just stick to picking up established OL in FA, and draft players with talent, then they can get things working. I like the idea of drafting the other Long, Chris, to fill the DE void left by Kelly with him moving to DT. Hey, Warren Sapp gave the thumbs up to moving KElly to DT, thats fine by me.
And please, lets stop the in fighting on this board. Some of you come across as Sorority Girls fighting amongst one another. Lets keep this board football related, leave the egos on the sideline.
PEACE
March 1st, 2008 at 10:47 pm
it looks like we will have 2 qbs
Ryan could be a possibility
seriously I’m thinking either Long. (Howie’s son), Dorsey or Ellis, if not any of those then a trade down, maybe to Dallas as they are eyeing McFadden unless of course they do not want his paternity baggage.
The Raiders could still have offers for a pick at #4 for those who want Ryan or McFadden.
March 2nd, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Jake Long would be a nice pick up a #4! but if he dont fit out blocking $heme why pick him? diz i$ how it$ gona go! were gona end up with Glenn Dor$ey! I am 100% $ure! and here$ why! Miami i$ gona take Chri$ Long cuz day need help everywere and with taylor thinken retirement…datz one more rea$on why he will go number 1! the ram$ are gona take Jake long cuz he fit$ dare $y$tem and with pace getten up in age….dey gota find hiz replacement right now! atlanta will take Matt Ryan! dey ju$t picked up Turner $o dat take$ away any chance$ of dem taken mcfadden! And finally Raider Nation at #4! we will take Glenn Dor$ey! he i$ a bea$t and will give u$ a pa$$ ru$h up da middle! mcfadden would be even beta but we got farga$ already! but Al Davi$ i$ unpredictable wen it come$ 2 da Draft! but regardle$$ of who we take…we will be AFC WE$T CHAMP$ IN 2008 AND WE WILL MAKE DA PLAYOFF$! DIZ I$ RAIDER NATION FOR LIFE FUK ALL DA HATER$!
March 4th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
For me….it’s between the Longs and Gholston.
At #4 the old man will have a hard time between DMC or Gholston. You guys watch.
The DT class is deep this year. Raiders can get one in round 2 or 4. FA isn’t over yet….we’ll see what happens.
May 1st, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Richard Porter…
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