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  • M.I.A. Raiders

    Al Dont Draft McFadden!!

  • Dick v

    Tommy Trojan with regards to post 295. I have to ask you this question. How many Super Bowls have been won by taking once in a decade talent like Barry Sanders, LT, and Adrian Peterson. I agree that they are rare breeds and they change the game instantly upon their arrival, but does that equate to winning?

  • M.I.A. Raiders

    Huff, Dont know how accurate your statement is of Felix Jones is a carbon copy of Mcfadden?!?!

    anyhoo…McFadden is my #1 on the RB board…we just dont NEED any more freakin RBs!

    Draft DE or DT in that order. Period. Or else we wont get to see DHall and Aso pick them pigskins from the sky!!

  • Huff24

    Lets clear up those stats.
    Cotton Bowl

    Darren McFadden
    21 Rushes 105 Yards 5.0 Average 19 Long 1 Touchdown

    His longest was 19 yards in the biggest game of his life. He didn’t catch a pass so he was one dimensional.

    Felix Jones
    10 Rushes 45 Yards 4.5 Average 23 Long 0 TD’s
    3 Receptions 65 Yards 21.7 Average 41 Long

    Jones put up a similiar rushing average with less rushes but had a long of 23 compared to McFadden’s 19. He also had 3 Receptions for 65 yards with a long of 41, proving that he was a double threat as a runner and receiver.

    Darren McFadden
    Total Touches – 21
    Total Yards – 105
    Touchdowns – 1

    Felix Jones
    Total Touches – 13
    Total Yards – 110
    Touchdowns – 0

    Felix Jones did more with less carries between rushing and receiving but didn’t have the TD. Jones also had a longer run as a home run hitter and 41 yards off one reception which makes another point. McFadden was the primary back which put him in position for the points.

    Basically…whats the difference between the 2?

  • Huff24

    Darren McFadden
    Stat Overview Rushing Receiving Fumbles
    YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
    2005 176 1113 6.3 70 11 14 52 3.7 12 0 0 0
    2006 284 1647 5.8 80 14 11 149 13.5 70 1 0 0
    2007 325 1830 5.6 80 16 21 164 7.8 57 1 0 0

    Felix Jones
    Stat Overview Rushing Receiving Fumbles
    YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
    2005 99 626 6.3 80 3 8 100 12.5 23 0 0 0
    2006 154 1168 7.6 85 6 15 107 7.1 29 3 0 0
    2007 133 1162 8.7 73 11 16 176 11.0 41 0 0 0

  • Kirk

    Is Gholston Lawrence Taylor 2008?

    I think Parcells may think so.

  • Huff24

    Jones had rushing averages of 6.3, 7.6 and 8.7.
    McFadden had rushing averages of 6.3, 5.8 and 5.6.

    Jones had Longs of 80, 85 and 73.
    McFadden had Longs of 70, 80, and 80.

  • Kirk

    What good will it be if we get McFadden, and we can’t protect Jamarcus?

  • Huff24

    Its funny. McFadden and Jones had similiar statistics but McFadden is a once every 10 years or lifetime or whatever. Looks like his backup RB isn’t any different. So much for once and a lifetime.

  • M.I.A. Raiders

    OMG..The Stat Machine has Spoken!

    Listen my man Huff….Stats dont mean squat (well maybe a little) its all about the game tape.

    One reason why your stats in this comparison are “useless”.

    Felix was Darren’s Back up!!! Get it now?

    Anytime you have a 1RB running ahead of you and you insert a “change of pace” back you get results!! We got fooled on this when we saw Lamont Jordan get tons of yardage behing Curtis Martin and were awed by his yard per attempt…guess what happened. Yeah. You got it now right?

    Just like Michael Turner…how he got that disgusting yards per attempt running behind perhaps the greatest RB currently in the league.

    You think Felix would have had those stats if he was the #1 Back in Arkansas?? Behind a 2 Time Heisman Runner up??

    Your stats are … hmmm… insightful but…hmmm…not relevant for this debate.

    See: Lamont Jordan for goosebumps proof.

    Huff..u still the man.

  • Huff24

    Felix Jones
    Height: 5-10 1/8 | Weight: 207 | 40-Time: 4.47

    Official Bio

    Strengths:
    Excellent speed and quickness…Explosive with a terrific burst…Elusive in the open field…Good feet…Nice balance and change of direction skills…Great vision…Terrific hands as a receiver and runs good routes…A legit big play threat who can take it the distance…Good production…Team player with good intangibles…There isn’t a lot of wear and tear on his body….Versatile and also an outstanding kick returner.

    Weaknesses:
    Never carried the load in college…Size and bulk are just average…Not very strong or powerful…Doesn’t break a lot of tackles or pick up many yards after contact…A sub par blocker…Needs to show more patience…Won’t do much damage between the tackles…His upside could be limited to a change of pace role at the next level.

    Notes:
    Combined with Darren McFadden to form the premier running back tandem in the nation…Earned All-American honors as a kick returner…Finished with the second best career yards per carry average (7.6) in NCAA history behind only Glenn Davis of Army (8.26)…A multi-dimensional weapon…Probably won’t ever be a workhorse in the NFL but could excel in a role similar to the one he played with the Hogs….If everything clicks just right he could be a Brian Westbrook-type but he is probably more of a poor-man’s Reggie Bush..Looks like a late 1st or early 2nd round talent.

  • Huff24

    Darren McFadden
    Height: 6-1 1/4 | Weight: 211 | 40-Time: 4.33

    Official Bio

    Strengths:
    An outstanding natural athlete…Has very good size…Excellent timed speed with a burst…Has great vision and instincts…Big play threat who can take it the distance at any time..Elusive with nice feet..Quick and agile…Real strong…Tough and loves contact…Runs hard and does not go down easy…Has decent hands and can be a weapon in the passing game..Plays with a nasty demeanor..Extremely productive.

    Weaknesses:
    Has some off-the-field and character questions…Legs and lower body are a little thin….Might run too high and open himself up to big hits…Could still improve as a blocker…Does not have a ton of experience as a receiver…Did not really play in a conventional offense in college and shared the workload…Ball security is an issue.

    Notes:
    Burst onto the scene as a true freshman…The Heisman Trophy runner-up as both a sophomore and a junior…In the summer of ’06 he dislocated his toe (which later required surgery) while trying to kick someone during a fight outside a night club at 4am…In January of 2008 was handcuffed during a disturbance outside of a bar shortly after midnight because according to the police report he was agitated and provoking aggressive behavior inciting the incident….

    Often worked as a shotgun quarterback in the Razorbacks “Wildcat” package and showed the ability to throw the ball…Pure football player with all the physical tools who is as good or perhaps an even better prospect than Adrian Peterson was coming out…A rare talent who should rank amongst the top running backs in the NFL very early in his pro career.

  • RaiderDogg

    Thanks for all of the feedback guys regarding my Top 10.

    I will be accountable for all of my picks barring any unforeseen trades. I reserve the right to adjust my Mock Draft if that occurs :)

    Otherwise I’m sticking to my guns and I will re-post it after the draft for all to see how close, or far, I really was. I can take the heat if need be.

    I have a feeling I’m a lot closer than some of you may realize, but hey I’m just a Keyboard GM that that is just trying to decipher truth from fiction in all of this draft activity.

  • Huff24

    M.I.A. – You can say the same thing about McFadden. What would McFadden have done without Felix Jones? Jones looked more like the Home Run Hitter to me. McFadden was a “runner up Heisman” not a Heisman winner. Remember that.

  • M.I.A. Raiders

    Geesh…another stat/bio/cut and paste.

    key words in your insightful cut and paste.

    “Combined with Darren McFadden”
    “Probably wont be a workhorse in NFL”
    “Never carried a load in college”
    “His upside could be limited to a change of pace role at the next level”

    ______________________________________________________

    If were talking RB…my sleeper is Jonathan Stewart. What a BEAST with SPEED and HANDS!

    He WILL have a BETTER pro career than DMAC…

    Write it down.

  • Huff24

    Felix Jones will be better than McFadden in the NFL. Mark my words. You can come back at me later.

  • M.I.A. Raiders

    Felix isnt even in the top 5 in most rankings!!

    Just cause they played for the same discussion shouldnt mean that they should be debated?!?!

    You have to “seperate” all RBs and regardless of teams and evaluate them “individually”

    DMac is MUCH better than Felix. Period.

  • M.I.A. Raiders

    LMFAO…#366….Your On!

  • M.I.A. Raiders

    Why then are you the ONLY one person throughout ALL opinions and assesments that have Felix ranked HIGHER than McFadden?

    Insider Information?

    Secret Game Tapes?

    Hmmmmmmmm…….

  • Huff24

    How many RB’s have won Superbowls drafted outside of the 1st round compared to Top 5 Running Backs? I bet you most of them weren’t Top 5 types.

  • Huff24

    M.I.A. – My true name is SpyGate. lol. I’m not saying I know more. In fact…my biggest arguement is that Jones is very comparable if not better than McFadden. I’m just trying to prove that they are both change of pace backs. McFadden won’t be this Elite RB that many say he will be. Just my opinion.

  • M.I.A. Raiders

    #370 has ABSOLUTELY no relevance to comparing DMac to Felix!!!!

    Do you think you knew something all the coaches in Arkansas didnt as to why they started Darren over Felix?

    Your a “Stat Machine” and we all appreciate your cut and pastes..at least I hope we all do, but your debate is well, silly.

    Read the Bios you just “pasted” and compare strengths and weakness for further evidence.

  • M.I.A. Raiders

    Huff24,

    I respect your opinions. But just feel its not even a close comparison imo.

    Anyhooo, we both want D-Line anyways so here is to hoping both backs are on another team.

    Just like you, whoever we pick at #4, I will truly support…even if its Run DMC

  • Huff24

    M.I.A. – Maybe I’m bogus. Maybe I’m off. Maybe I’m wrong? I obviously see things different. I see 2 similiar backs. Thats all.

  • Huff24

    M.I.A. – Absolutely. I will support any Raider. I really want a defensive lineman on this team though. I personally feel that will complete this team as a whole vs. adding another player that won’t have that much of an effect as a starter. I want a guy who can play everydown, not every 3rd down.

  • M.I.A. Raiders

    Huff do you think Al is crazy enough to consider trading up for Long?

  • Huff24

    M.I.A. – No. I don’t think AD will trade up for Long. Theres too much talent left at #4 that we really can’t lose. If Long was by far the ultimate talent a sure thing to go #1, then maybe but we don’t have the trade power anymore and since AD spent so much money in the off-season, I’m not sure he can afford another #1.

  • R.A.W.

    Chris carr is with the titans

  • Huff24

    R.A.W. – Who? Haha.

  • M.I.A. Raiders

    I have a feeling our trade partner for Fabian might be the Cowboys since attaining PacMan is getting slimmer by the day.

  • Kirk

    We need a left offensive tackle.

    Please God, let us draft an OT.

  • M.I.A. Raiders

    No Faith In Kwame Harris?! He is gonna be the next Ogden or Pace!

    LOL

    Seriously though…Cable saw something in Kwame to push for him…well see…

  • Vinny Testicles

    push for Kwame….hell, nobody else wanted him!

  • Kirk

    Kwame’s center of gravity is too high. I think he would be a better tight end.

    I just don’t want Jamarcus to get killed.

    I hope we draft Jake Long.

  • Vinny Testicles

    it’s gonna take more than on off-season to get him better in pass protection that’s for sure..

  • M.I.A. Raiders

    RB Evaluations….

    http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3316155&categoryId=3305091

    Green and McShay agrees that Darren McFadden is not the best RB but the best player available overall!

    Im thinking Kiffen line about not needing RB and going D-Line just might be a smoke screen.

  • Kirk

    Huff, nice posts on Jones. I always enjoy your posts. What is your take on our left OT situation?

  • Reka5maticRaider510

    Nnamdi Asomugha needs a long term contract, I think i did my part already buying his authentic jersey!!!! This guy is way more better than Hall show’em how a true superstar can cover man to man

  • Scottish Raider

    Kirk,

    Rest assured, if Jake Long is still on the board, we will draft him. An absolute certainty.

    Except he will be long gone (pardon the pun). Probably to Miami, definitely to Rams.

    Interesting that Kiffin said that Harris would start at LT and Green and Henderson would compete for RT. What happened to McQuistan? Is he covering LT or competing with Gallery and Carlisle?

    I wouldn’t be surprised if McQuistan is traded. There are reports that Cable is sweet on Mark Wilson as the back-up to Harris. If so, McQuistan may be expendable if either Chris Morris or Jon Palmer is seen as a capable Guard. McQuistan might command a low 2nd or High 3rd rounder.

    The other Oline question surrounds Jake Grove. Assuming Newberry isn’t resigned, do we keep Grove or promote Morris to back-up and look to trade Grove for picks? The other option would be Jesse ‘Mr CarLight’ Boone – he could be the springer in this roster.

    The next few weeks present a big opportunty for the likes of Wilson, Morris, Boone and Palmer to stake claims for roster spots.

  • daniel

    mia i agree, i think we could get their 2nd rounder because its at the bottom

  • blat

    Scottish…I can’t imagine Grove ever being an adequate center in this league. Morris may be a decent back up. I thought McQuistan played well last year when Green went out, and it was strange that Kiffin didn’t mention him. I also thought Wilson looked good in preseason, but it seems he’s probably still more of a right tackle. We don’t have a legitimate LT on the roster.

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com Citizen Montoya

    Monday Night Football against the donkeys I declare a “BLACK OUT”. The donkeys will be coming into a very hostile sold out Oakland stadium. We will not sit down once during this game. We will be standing and yelling, and eventually celebrating. Finally after the last years of being spat on…We rise.

  • Lowdown in Beijing

    Draft Middle Linebacker!!!!

    Move Morrison to OLB with his speed, he will be MURDER on TEs and RBs!!

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