McFadden on the Raiders
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, April 16th, 2008 at 11:29 am in Oakland Raiders.
The following is a blog entry posted by Arkansas running back Darren McFadden talking about his visit to the Raiders last week posted on a Web site called “Yardbarker,” which specializes in “sports news, rumors, photos and videos”:
I have been making a lot of trips to the NFL teams the last two weeks and wanted to catch the Yard up with my visits.
I had a great visit with the Raiders last week. It was my first trip and I had a great time. I got in Monday night and went to dinner with the offensive coordinator, Greg Knapp, and the running backs coach, Tom Rathman. Coach Rathman picked me up the next morning for breakfast. He gave me a tour of the facility and then we watched some film. We watched two of my games – one against Alabama and the Arkansas-LSU game. Coach Rathman seemed to like what he was watching. He said he likes tough running backs. In the LSU game we ran a dash right, a sprint out pass to the right. When the defensive end came charging in I hit him real good and knocked him backwards. Coach Rathman liked that play a whole lot. He is a coach I would love to play for. He is the type of coach who can take me to the next level, and I’m a player who is looking and willing to work to get to that next level. I think we’d be a great combination.
I also got a chance to meet Al Davis. I was really excited about that. I’m just a guy from little ol’ Arkansas meeting a legend like him. That was great. He had a lot of energy and he knows so much about the game and all the players in the draft. We spent about 10 minutes together and I enjoyed it very much.
I’ll fill you in on my New England trip next.
Darren
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April 16th, 2008 at 11:31 am
wooooooo
April 16th, 2008 at 11:32 am
First??
April 16th, 2008 at 11:33 am
In case anyone missed it:
Dakota Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 9:03 am
As supreme commander of the Draft McFadden Nation, I hereby order an immediate cessation of hostilities and a 10 day cease fire between the United Draft McFadden Front and the Axis of McFadden Haters.
Negotiations will be ongoing, and with God’s will, peace will flourish once again in the divided Raider Nation.
_____________________________________________________
Violators will be shot.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:34 am
If he wants to play for Rathman, he better hope Seattle drafts him.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:35 am
RaiderDell Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 11:33 am
New Post
Written for Dakota
April 16th, 2008 at 11:35 am
lol
April 16th, 2008 at 11:38 am
I smell smoke.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Terrapin, SaintKaufmann, BHP and others who don’t want DMAC!!!!!
dangerdangerdangerdangerdangerdangerdangerdanger
DO NOT ENTER THIS BLOG ENTRY, MANY BAD THINGS WILL BE SAID, PLEASE RUN FOR COVER.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Terrapin – Great points. I too see long term when fixing the defensive line and short term when adding McFadden. If McFadden isn’t great as a rookie and our run defense stumbles as usual. Goodbye Kiffin because the overall record of the team will matter the most. McFadden will go through a learning curve and 15 touches a game, if he even receives that, won’t be enough to ignite the offense this year. The defensive line needs some real talent to team with an underachieving group of 1st round busts and overpaid guys.
Kiffin is the HEAD COACH…not the offensive coordinator so he should be looking at this team like the Head Coach would and put the needs ahead of his own personal desires. He knows he can put a good offense out on the field with the current personnel. What he doesn’t have faith in is the defense and if he has any desire to stick around as the Head Coach, he will address the team to win and its crucial that we do just that. In Rob Ryan’s defense, has he ever had this much talent on the team before? I think not.
Rob Ryan deserves a shot at getting some better players as well. Hes never had enough talent on the defensive line. He drafted the 2 linebackers and the team has been loaded with secondary players in Asomugha, Routt, Washington, Huff and Schweigert. Kiffin needs to win early or hes going to be McShanagained and we’re right back in the hole. In my mind, offenses start out slow in the beginning of the season, so the defense can benefit with a strong rookie at the 4th spot.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:38 am
If we want a gamebreaker I have no problem with Mcfadden. However, getting help on the D-line should be a priority.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:38 am
That is what can be described as ‘mature’ talk and compliments to the Raiders. Certainly didn’t do any damage and may have improved his draft chances with us.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Bush healthy, but future uncertain
By Charles Robinson, Yahoo! Sports
When Michael Bush first heard the buzz, he wasn’t thinking that this was just the typical business nature of the NFL. Or that it was just more potential competition. Instead, one very familiar word came to mind when Bush heard the Oakland Raiders were flirting with Arkansas running back Darren McFadden.
“I was just like ‘Why?’ ” Bush wondered.
Bush conveys the moment like a man who has been asking himself that question forever. And some days in Bush’s mind, it might seem that way. Since Sept. 2006, his career has seen little more than turbulence: A broken leg against Kentucky in the opener of his senior season; a second surgery a month before the NFL draft; plummeting into the fourth round of the 2007 draft; and then a long climb back with the Raiders that ended with an unexpected deactivation in November – without logging a single carry in his rookie season.
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Now, in what can only be described as another layer of misery – after watching Justin Fargas blossom in Oakland’s backfield and even Dominic Rhodes rack up a pair of 100-yard rushing games to end last season – Bush will spend the one-year anniversary of his draft freefall looking over his shoulder, hoping the Raiders don’t pull the rug out from his feet again, and use the No. 4 overall pick on McFadden.
“The first time I heard that (might happen), I was like, ‘why would you do that?’ ” Bush said. “You’ve got Dominic Rhodes, who to me is still a good running back. Then you’ve got Fargas still here and LaMont (Jordan) still here. We’ve got a good group of backs.”
Bush in his junior season. (US Presswire)
That Bush leaves himself off that list is no accident. He’s felt like the forgotten decimal point in Oakland’s backfield equation for some time. That was hard to imagine only 19 months ago, when Bush entered his senior season at Louisville near the top of his running back class and a favorite to win the Heisman Trophy. Those were expectations that made plenty of sense after he rolled to 2,380 yards and 36 touchdowns in his first three seasons with the Cardinals.
It’s already a faint memory, but at 6-foot-2 and 247 pounds, Bush was a combination of T.J. Duckett with better instincts and LenDale White with a more sculpted body. He was the embodiment of a top draft choice: big, fast, athletic and carrying a great attitude.
Now he’s the picture of what can go wrong when a leg injury or surgery occurs so close to the draft. Not to mention what can wrong when you finally get to the next level, only to watch a team shelve you in a nonsensical numbers game.
That is what happened to Bush last season, in what could be labeled as another stroke of Oakland’s roster mismanagement. After starting the season on the Physically Unable to Perform list, Bush was practicing, healthy, and had a good working knowledge of the offense by November. But that diligence was rewarded with the Raiders sticking him back on PUP for the remainder of the season.
Why? Because Oakland would have had to cut one of its backs to make room for Bush, and it would have come with back-to-back games looming against the running back-needy Kansas City Chiefs and Denver Broncos.
Never mind that Oakland was 2-8 at that point of the season. Or that Jordan and Rhodes were contributing almost nothing at the time. Even the fact that Bush was a young building block in need of playing time couldn’t sway the decision. Instead, the Raiders (ahem, Al Davis) chose to keep Jordan and Rhodes and stick Bush on the PUP list, in hopes of denying the Chiefs or Broncos a possible competitive edge. And while Oakland won both of those games, the victories accomplished almost nothing in the wider view of what became a 4-12 season.
“There’s a lot to be said that if you’re looking to the future (that) you should have brought him up, you should have played him,” Raiders coach Lane Kiffin said earlier this month at the league’s annual owners meetings. “It wasn’t an easy decision. But it was a decision we made to go with the guys that we had.
“That affected Michael, I know, because Michael had worked so hard at that point to be able to practice with us and to be able to potentially play. Unfortunately we kind of took that away from him.”
Bush said the decision shocked him initially, particularly after he had spent countless post-practice work and film sessions trying to convince the coaching staff that he was healthy and ready to go. Bush said he fully expected to be activated, and that it wasn’t until well afterward that he was able to try to spin it in another direction. Not unlike his draft experience, when he went in hoping teams would gamble on him despite his injury – “Like Willis McGahee,” Bush said – but left trying to convince himself that he had landed in the right place.
Now he looks at his aborted first season, and hopes it means another year tacked on at the end of his career. “I look at it as I saved my body and I learned what to expect when you’re practicing hard,” Bush said. “I just try to get the most positive thing out of it.”
It’s a diplomatic viewpoint, to be sure. And Bush is doing his best to extend that line of thinking to the upcoming draft. While he’s hoping Oakland spends its No. 4 pick on something else – say, a defensive tackle – he’s determined to bite his tongue no matter the outcome.
“You like to say there’s nothing wrong with competing, but then you throw the dollar signs (from McFadden being a top pick) out there,” Bush said. “If I would have to wait or share reps or whatever, I’ve dealt with that in college.
“It’s a business. I talked to Justin Fargas and he said the same thing happened to him when he got into the league. They had Tyrone Wheatley and guys like that, and he had to take a back seat until this year. We’ve got a good group of guys in the backfield, so we don’t really understand why they would draft another running back. But Mr. Davis, he likes to win. And if he feels like McFadden can bring something to the table and we can win some games, then you can’t be mad at the guy.”
And Bush?
“I’ve become the unknown guy,” he said. “That’s ok. It just makes me work harder. A lot of guys are overlooking me and things I can bring to the table.”
After a long wait, he’ll be pulling up his chair soon enough.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:40 am
The guys on ESPN (Mel, McShay) think that we run a hybrid 3-4/4-3 defense…am I missing something???
Football Today podcast.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Al Davis spent 10 minutes with McFadden? Geeez…don’t talk the guys head off or anything. Davis wasn’t impressed enough to take him in for 2 hours and talk about the history of the Raiders. McFadden is just talkin good about everyone so who cares? Like he said, he’ll tell us about the Pats visit and he’ll talk highly of Moss and the 3 Superbowls and the Perfect Season and Belichick and how hes a genius, blah blah blah.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:42 am
They were concerned about how Chris Long would fit into our 3-4 sets…wtf?
April 16th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Sorry to repost:
Oakglenn Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Bob you bring up a good point about Kiff and the defense. I’ve said here repeatedly that, that was what Kiff was hired to do: turn around the O. Period. So offensively we went from 32nd to 30th. Just kidding, but we did improve. Not enough to warrant handing everything over to Kiff, but enough to let him have another go.
To all the Ryan haters out there I’ve said this as well. Don’t worry. Ryan is gone. G,O,N,E, gone. In sports there’s an expression, either you’re getting better or you’re getting worse. In Ryans case if things get better, he’s no longer under contract he’d be a hot commodity and he’s gone. If things get worse, he’s gone.
The most interesting point of all of this is here you have an offensive guy (Kiff), with his job on the line, potentially drafting this all world offensive player (Dmac), which if it wouldn’t help him win, would certainly help Kiff showcase his coaching acumen around the globe, by using this all world talent a variety of ways as RB, SE, maybe even having him throw the rock around the yard. And yet, here is Kiff, after a year of evaluating the roster of the Raiders saying we need DEFENSIVE LINEMEN!!!! What is that telling ya???
April 16th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Have you guys heard about the latest Dolt player suspended for 4 games for banned substance use? Some kind of stimulant. OLB Cooper gone for 1st 4 games. Them linebackers in SD be wired up on all kinds of crap, no wonder they’re so good at blitzing from the outside. Absolutely pathetic.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:51 am
OakGlenn
Thanks for the repost, let’s hope we have defensive balance this year, limit the yards per carry, and the long runs and have balance in our third down packages with the personell to play run or pass.
I know you go to the games how many times on third and 10 or more did we get screened or the other team ran for a first down, that what I think we need more balance in our defense.
Stay in the gaps and rush the QB after the initial read of the offensive line.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Bush on Possible Draft of McFadden…
“The first time I heard that (might happen), I was like, ‘why would you do that?’ ” Bush said. “You’ve got Dominic Rhodes, who to me is still a good running back. Then you’ve got Fargas still here and LaMont (Jordan) still here. We’ve got a good group of backs.”
April 16th, 2008 at 11:54 am
I still aint buying it .It’s less than 2 weeks before the draft and here comes the misdirection plays. We’re going to hear a lot of “stuff” in the next week and a half that means nothing and everything. I going to trust my gut and common sense on the pick.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Lane Kiffin on RB Bush…
“There’s a lot to be said that if you’re looking to the future (that) you should have brought him up, you should have played him,” Raiders coach Lane Kiffin said earlier this month at the league’s annual owners meetings. “It wasn’t an easy decision. But it was a decision we made to go with the guys that we had.
“That affected Michael, I know, because Michael had worked so hard at that point to be able to practice with us and to be able to potentially play. Unfortunately we kind of took that away from him.”
April 16th, 2008 at 11:55 am
McFadden did not mention meeting with Kiffin? Hmnn
April 16th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Great Bush Writeup. I look at Michael Bush as a Secret Stealth Weapon that nobody sees coming despite its size. This guy is hungry and he desperately wants to prove to the world that hes great. Thats one thing I like about him. If he was cocky at all before his injury, he has been humbled by reality and sometimes you get the best out of a player when that happens. Reggie Bush is an example of a guy that got alot of attention, was very popular, people were trying to give him money to come to their college and so on.
Reggie Bush ended up getting alot of fame and fortune before he even signed a contract. He was getting endorsements and before you know it, he was in bed with Kim Kardashian. Thats a man made up of distractions and he has paid the price. His life has lost that football edge. Michael Bush is 100% football. MB got robbed by the injury, got robbed by being picked in the 4th round, got robbed when put back on the PUP list and is feeling the heat with the McFadden talks.
Davis loves these kind of guys. MB is sitting back and seething, waiting for his turn like a Michael Vick pitbull, just waiting to attack. AD should go to prison for this inhumane abuse of a man with perfectly good talent and skills to contribute and AD is waiting for the perfect moment to unleash the beast. MB isn’t caught up in the hype, hes caught up in proving to the world that hes somebody and now its him against the man. Thats a dangerous thing to have.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
nice write up on the write up Huff!
Michael “WMD” Bush is gonna come out like a man on fire this season. I am more excited about seeing him smash up linebackers, than seeing Jamarcus in the pre-season.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
McFadden didn’t meet Kiffin? Oh, that’s right, what’s the point; Kiffin isn’t the head coach anymore.
I hope Al and Tom Rathmsn told Darren that running backs are nothing more than blockers in Raiderland, now that Kiffin’s gone and the team is ran by Davis puppets again.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Its the worst draft ever!!!
I’m psyched about the draft, but I don’t care about the 1st round… This is like a teenager getting the condom on and then is finished…woaw its our turn, who will it be….hmmm cant wait for day two :/
April 16th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Oakglenn Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Bob you bring up a good point about Kiff and the defense. I’ve said here repeatedly that, that was what Kiff was hired to do: turn around the O. Period.
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Sure. And he was given all of 3 weeks to do it, before Al stepped in and forced Russell and Culpepper on him. Did you see Kiffin in any hurry to play those two? Me neither.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
wait til tommy trojan gets on here and sees mcfaddens raider comments..he will probably be masturbating to his man crush mcfadden talking to Al
April 16th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Ohio…
LOL, and dakota =)
April 16th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
1. Chris Long
2. Dorsey
3. Mcfadden
4. there is no 4 trade to the cowboys for damarcus ware
April 16th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Not to mention that “joe” is back in the backfield too… there’s plenty runners in the stable… We’ll take the Long road home… 4th and Long… yeah… I like that one still…
April 16th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
good one ohio,
April 16th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Bob Marley Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 9:59 am
But ultimately, I believe that it will come down to how Kiffin´s side of the ball performs and that´s how Kiffin will be evaluated when the season ends,
……….
How Kiffin performs, with the injury prone underachievers that Al is forcing on him. And defense always has an effect on the offense. A defense on roller skates (as ours is) is demoralizing to an offense. It offsets their efforts. Look at the Indy game. Think it’s a coincidence we got smashed in Jax the following week? So, in order for Kiffin to be effective, he needs to have a say on defense, too. He wanted Ryan out. Only a kool aid drinking idiot would believe otherwise. Davis had other plans. Kiffin can not be held accountable for anything that happens this year. It’s all on Davis. But I do agree Kiffin will be scapegoated.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
i doubt the cowboys would give up a young pro bowler, ive sean mean a pick and greg ellis or someone
April 16th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
# ohioraider Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
wait til tommy trojan gets on here and sees mcfaddens raider comments..he will probably be masturbating to his man crush mcfadden talking to Al
…….
No doubt, he’s on his way. And he’ll also tell you how your “logic” is “flawed” if you don’t clearly see McFadden as being the next Barry Sanders.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
please not call him ‘joe’ I know its from training camp but somehow I find it very offensive… I call him Eche, call him what ever you please, IMHO ‘joe’ is just plain wrong…
But you’re right don’t forget we got him back from his trip to texan
April 16th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
lol one time i saw him but that mcfadden is in the league of barry, jim brown, walter payton, and those sorts and the guy hasnt even played an nfl down lol
April 16th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
My favorite Tommy Trojan line, yet.
When Coach on Wheels talks about how a lot of Raiders fans think Gibril Wilson is god now, when they’d never heard of him before the Raiders signed him:
TT’s response: “Just because they (Raider fans) didn’t know he was great, doesn’t mean that he isn’t”.
LOL!
Where’s that snare drum when we need it.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
not Sanders-BO
April 16th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Do these guys usually not meet with the Head Coach? There was not mention of meeting with Kiffin.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Kiffen didn’t talk to him Al spent 10mins. That’s about the Long & short of it.
Hellllllo Chris Long.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
I didn’t hear one Raider fan toward the end of last season hoping we’d acquire Gibril Wilson in the upcoming free agent market. But, you never know…he could have been Ronnie Lott for all we know…LOL.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
My opinion is sure you can pick McFadden and show your offensive prowess but you’re not gonna win many games unless you go defense and manage to stop somebody. (or trade down to upgrade multiple positions). The offense will be better with a better QB and line.
Per that post from PFT referencing Devin Thomas and his visit with the Raiders I can see this guy, albiet with limited research, in the Reggie Bush mold not as a RB of course but a WR used almost in that same mold for Kiffin. From what limited footage I saw once this guys has the ball in his hands in space he’s dangerous. Just as fast as McFadden (4.3) but maybe with better moves and better catching the rock. He even rushed the ball at times in his college career. If they trade down I can see Kiffin pulling the trigger on him – he’ll be electric – then picking Dline/Oline.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Raidermight, he met Al Davis. That’s good enough. We dont have a head coach right now.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Repoman…
go find my posts then… I hoped for 3 SS, Gibril Wilson, Bigby or if we couldnt get them Eugene Wilson, knowing Eugene is best at FS….
But my primary man was Gibril Wilson… furthermore, I stated I wanted tall receivers, not more of those 5-10…
April 16th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
you call’em Eche… I (we/they) call(ed) him Joe… why would “you” take offense to it? ~rolls my eyes~ my (agreed upon) point is that he too is back and therefore it seems less likely to bring in Mcfad…
April 16th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
RAIDERSSSS RAIDERSSSS RAAAAAIIIDDDEERRSSSS………….anyone know anyone goin to the draft?
April 16th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I agree, no more gay bashing. My father came out last year, and since then I’ve had a whole different outlook on gays.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
some posted a poll and chris long was 30 sum odd percent while mcfadden was 20 some odd percent as who the raiders would draft.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
how bout we only bash 49 fans and rival afc west fans haha
April 16th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
As supreme commander of the Draft McFadden Nation, Tommy Trojan has been a valuable propaganda tool for our cause. However, recently he has taken his McFadden zealotry to outrageous heights, and I have ordered his “reassignment” for the good of the movement.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Whoah…speak for yourself there, Oak.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
IMIMG…
well I know it shouldn’t…
but it clings to my ears like some other offensive boy, bubba, john doe, joe no name….
Adimchinobi Echemando… if its too hard for an american, that can be, we NFL fans learned to say Nnamdi or Gbaja Biamila… I just see it as a lack of respect…
Im just raised to respect a mans name… but its probably me…
I call him Eche, a shorting of his surname, and he got the edge! you just roll your eyes
April 16th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
haha i have season tickets and i sit next to sum openely gay raider fans and there some die hard raider fans one nation.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Just because he didn’t specificly talk about his meeting with Coach Kiffin doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen. This is how rumors get started.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Dakota since we signed this peace treaty with mcfadden haters, when shall we put the trojan horse into there walls and destroy that haters?
April 16th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Fabian, I sit next to an openly gay Raider fan a few games per year now. My father. And I’m proud to say it. I think more people are coming around to it. Homophobia is a disease and I think America is getting closer everyday to being cured. I’m optimistic.
I’m In!
April 16th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
From Eche to Uche…
I’m outta here, gonna see If Getafe wins the Cup!
April 16th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
lets keep pilaging these niners take there gold and women and drink the night away with our mcfadden babymaker wisky and never get wisky limp in the face of niners cheerleaders hahaa
April 16th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Fabian,
12 a.m., April 27, 2008.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Just so everyone knows, the name “MaddenRaider” has been banned. So anyone posting under that name to try to get even with me, or whatever, the post is just going to be erased.
Oakglenn, btw, as much crap as you’re going to get in here, I think it’s great that you’re taking an open attitude with your father. Although I have to disagree with what you said about everyone being gay. Hey, if you are too, it’s all good. But that’s your trip, homie. I’m cool with the ladies.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
raiders dont hate we the team they love to hate
April 16th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Unless Bush’s health concerns have either been rectified or determined to be career-threatening, it’s a tough call on McFadden, if he’s there for the taking.
Davis has spent big $$$ on the D-line with the Kelly and Sands’ deals, brought in additional help for the D-line in the off-season and is staring down the barrel Burgess’ contract year. The cap era is still in effect, so it’s tough to spend that much cap space on one area of the team.
We know LaMont is gone at some point in the coming months, so that leaves Fargas, Rhodes and Bush as feature backs for next season.
If Dorsey or Chris Long are available, then they should be the priority over McFadden.
History tellus us Davis will not trade out of the #4 spot and I’m not sure if Ellis is worthy of the #4 pick in the draft.
So, McFadden may very well be the best player available if Dorsey and Chris Long are gone when the Raiders pick.
April 16th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
i am all for getting that “homerun” back. having a RB who’s a threat to go the distance is not a bad thing.
that said, i believe the ability to STOP the run is far more paramount on our “needs list”. especially if you’re in the AFC west. there is one thing the casual fan overlooks: the play of both line units. it is(and always will be) fundamental: run, and stop the run. we have three backs capable of shouldering a 15 carry game, and we’ll probably find one in camp too. gone are the days of the 35-carry, workhorse back. besides, there just window dressing; a side dish.
this is a pipe dream, but jake long should be the pick.he’ll be long gone by #4, though….(pun intended) same story with chris. dorsey or ellis? both are studs.both are immediate starters. either or, doesn’t matter. i guarantee there will be a RB we can draft in the 2nd or third round. we have those picks right??
don’t think the line units are important?? need proof??
what happens when an o-line sucks?? see 2006 oakland raiders.
what happens when a d-line sucks?? see 2007 oakland raiders.
31 nfl owners agree: games are won and lost in the trenches.
April 16th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
fabian Says:
…drink the night away with our mcfadden babymaker wisky ….
McFaddy fumbled the bottle & broke it.
April 16th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
MaddenRaider, you’re sick. You actually make Oakglenn’s situation look normal.
Ok, that was the last one, Oak. I swear…
April 16th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Rich Gannon’s love child, great post. Stopping the run is our biggest priority.
April 16th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Oakglenn, Gholston reminds of me of another Ohio State player, Rickey Dudley–great athlete but not a great football player.
Dorsey and Chris Long were super productive in college and the Raiders need players not projects/athletes when picking that high in the draft.
Gholston is a product of a great combine, not a great career at Ohio State. Hate for the Raiders to find out what it’s like to draft a Mike Mamula-type player.
Fortunately for the Raiders, I think Davis still feels burned by trading up for a future Ohio State bust (Dudley).
IMO, Sedrick Ellis is the only other D-lineman worthy of a top 10 pick in the draft. Never mind friggin’ bench-press reps, vertical leap and 40 times, the Raiders need football PLAYERS–guys who produce on the field, not ones who just perform in the gym.
April 16th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
The facts are we have picked 15 defensive players, 7 offensive players, and 1 Kicker in the draft since 1990. When we drafted the best talent by need we have done pretty well. But when we drafted to fill a position regardless if that talent was the best on the board we suck! Take McFadden, we have given Rob Ryan and the defense picks galoure. The problem is Al likes to draft young defensive players but they shy away from young explosive offensive players in the first round for plan b projects or the year by year veterns. Gret players but their shelf life was usually close to expiring. Draft explosive young players for the offense for a change. Draft more offense in round 1. Lord knows we have quickly jumped on taking who ever was there in round 1 for our defense. Rob RYan and this Raider defense continues to get the players they want and continue to have sub par performances. Why? Because they live on the field from game to game. Our offense is three in out. Draft D-Mac to match up with Bush and Jamarcus. With our tightends and we will need more receivers will make for the next 4 years. Then we can continue to work on our defense. Heck we spent money on the defensive side of the ball during the off season. Now if the defensive picks in the off season did not fit. Talk to Al.
RECENT FIRST ROUND HISTORY: 2007 – JaMarcus Russell (QB, LSU); 2006 – Michael Huff (S, Texas); 2005 – Fabian Washington (CB, Nebraska); 2004 – Robert Gallery (T, Iowa); 2003 – Nnamdi Asomugha (CB, California), Tyler Brayton (DE, Colorado); 2002 – Phillip Buchanon (CB, Miami-Florida), Napoleon Harris (LB, Northwestern); 2001 – Derrick Gibson (S, Florida State); 2000 – Sebastian Janikowski (K, Florida State); 1999 – Matt Stinchcomb (OT, Georgia); 1998 – Charles Woodson (CB, Michigan), Mo Collins (OL, Florida); 1997 – Darrell Russell (DT, USC); 1996 – Rickey Dudley (TE, Ohio State); 1995 – Napoleon Kaufman (RB, Washington); 1994 – Rob Fredrickson (LB, Michigan State); 1993 – Patrick Bates (DB, Texas A&M); 1992 – Chester McGlockton (DL, Clemson); 1991 – Todd Marinovich (QB, USC); 1990 – Anthony Smith (DE, Arizona).
April 16th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Bush just wants to make sure he gets some playing time. I respect that but if he is going to be a dog in this league he better suck it up play and compete aginst the best. Marcus Allen was a heck of a running back but he was not to happy when Bo Jackson was drafted. But all the fans were happy. Take D-Mac and let he in Bush compete and get them both on the field.
Fargas will be hurt half way through the season. Jordan will be traded or to slow to hit the hole (a broke mans Bo Jackson). Rhodes will be suspended once again for substance abuse so that leaves Bush (who we hope is the real deal) and no one if you don’t take D-Mac. If you think our receivers that we took during the off season are going to do anything, think again! Role players at best. Heck Mc Fadden can even split out at flanker and catch passes.
April 16th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Repo Man has something. If Kiffin is ultimately responsible for the offense, then why didn’t he meet McFadden? Either Kiffin is indeed out, or they aren’t going to draft McFadden.
The Raiders need to stop the run in 2008. Sucessful teams control the line of scrimmage. The defense needs help up the middle and that means a DT. Anything else would be fluff.
April 16th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Does anyone really think Kiffin is out? Thats the most ridiculous thing i have heard. Who can Kiffin be gone this close to the season starting? Too much freakin gumeshoe spy detective work.
April 16th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Raider Fans, Do we really expect to win the super Bowl this year? No I don’t think so. So my feeling at age 61 and having been a Raider fan even before when the chosen name was “Seniors” that would be 1960 the Oakland Tribune readers voted the name. Any way here’s the deal. mcfadden is our man, we have definatly shored the D up in free agency. Lamont and Rhodes are traded and we go with Fargus, Bush and Mcfadden. Next year we look needs, maybe DT and are a very competitive team. I thik we can be a 500 team this year. Maybe better. Its not a 1 year fix. Russell, Bush (gonna be really good) Mcfadden will be the league best in 2 years. We will sweep Denver, Kc and split SD this year…..were hungry
April 16th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Oakglenn, btw, you keep talking about people ruining this blog. This blog is just fine. What is being ruined however is yours and TT’s iron fisted strong hold over the topic of conversation, here. Coach On Wheels really set this thing straight last night, by making excellent points regarding our personnel and comparing it to our last playoff team, and demonstrating that there is no comparison. Trojan’s defense was akin to a pygmy shooting a dart. Just pathetic. He eventually settled on calling COW’s logic “flawed”, giving no example. Wheels owned this thing last night. That’s what happens, Oakglenn. People come in here, make points, and when they’re right, they’re right. Then it’s usually people like you and Trojan coming out, posting under their names, whatever you can, to demoralize them. Then, when some of them fight back, you cry to the mods. That’s been your game here for over a year now. You just can’t deal with the fact that there are so many Raider fans out there that don’t agree with you, nor share your kool aid optimism about where this team’s at right now. Your goal: To silence them. Period. And your “they’re ruining this blog” bitch fest is just another example of it.
April 16th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
AD addressed needs on defence through f/a.Everyone saw what Minnasota did with 2 very good runningbacks.Fargas,Bush,Oneal,Rhodes&Dmac,would ware down and embarass opposing defences and keep our defence off the field.At first i wanted a d-lineman but with said f/a moves,TAKE DMAC
April 16th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
. . . Can’t understand the logic (or lack thereof).
If you have an above average offense what, likely, will the opposition do to defuse this threat?
Employ a ball control offense (currently the obvious bane of the Raiders existence).
Now scroll through the upcoming schedule. Currently only Carolina & Houston are berift (if Ronnie Brown successfully overcomes his ACL injury) of a big time running threat. And Houston utilized Ron Dayne, of all people, to “ball control” (like so many 2007 opponents) the Raiders to death last season.
So, if the Raiders fail to address @ least one of their two most glaring weaknesses of the 2007 season (stopping the run & protecting the QB), well, all those new, shiny toys Al just bought will carry the luster of rust.
I realize the obvious retort will be “well, with an improved secondary we can crowd the line of scrimmage, neutralizing our point of attack weakness.” And this; we surrendered less sacks last year than previous campaigns.”
Onto point 1); with an emphasis on the “spread” offense employing multiple WR’s, thus forcing the defense out of 8 and 9 man fronts & into. Forced into a coverage alignment Running to vacated daylight soon to follow. Given RR’s (or is it Al’s) penchant for not making requisite adjustments, well, nothing like a foregone conclusion. . .
Point 2); who really thinks Kwame Harris, the human revolving door or unproven Mario Henderson is the heir apparent to Barry (which way did they go, George, which way did they go?) Sims? Tom Cable may be the “miracle worker” but the zone blocking scheme doesn’t provide relief for edge rushers. This is still a matchup situation. Still gotta account for them (Shawne Merriman/Terrell Suggs licking their chops even as they scan the new schedule & pad their 2008 sack numbers) and talent is the only way to go. . .
Until a concerted effort is made to combat these weaknesses (see: 2008 College Entry Draft) they will remain untreated.
I realize the FA market didn’t offer a suitable answer; that is why the draft is so important. A shiny new sports car in the form of DMac is nice. However, It’s most likely said sports car will remain parked in the driveway unless SUV’s are acquired to drive the Raiders most glaring problems away.
Thec, you are now the hampster to TT’s Richard Gere.
Just saw the movie ” The Hoax”, the story of Clifford Irving (writer/con man whom authored the “unauthorized” biography of Howard Hughes). Played by none other than Richard Gere. Al Molina was the hampster/researcher/co-writer.
Didn’t see one lighter, although much smoking occurred. Apparently no hampsters were harmed in the making of the film.
Jhill; don’t you know three is a crowd? Bad form attempting to crash the Thec/TT “mancrush.”
I sense a trade down. But, whatever. I will support whomever Al annoints as the Raiders next big-time overpaid high draft choice (just like Derick Gibson and Seabass).
Also; for those whom fancy themselves politically savvy; I respect (but retain the right to disagree) your right to any opinion(s). However, to employ a more compelling debate y’all should perform your act on a political blog. That would be the proper forum. Probably a dearth of professional sports dialogue to dilute the content (unlike sports blogs). Then an objective opinion exchange could be realized.
Hopefully no accompanying panties in a bind. However, department of you hear/see/read what you perceive ensues. Most likely this attempt of tongue-in-cheekery will be misconstrued.
late(er than I may think)
antispy3
April 16th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Rick Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
“we have definatly shored the D up in free agency.”
….
Obviously wisdom doesn’t come with age.
How have we improved our run defense, which is the worst in football?
April 16th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
I like lesbians, I have alot in common with them
April 16th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
People like Rick and 4evaRaider think that our opponents are going to just pass the ball on us every down. If in some fantasy world they did, then I would agree with you guys.
April 16th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Truancy Monitor, so then you have ovaries, and periods? You get emotional a lot? You said you have a lot in common with lesbians.
April 16th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
After all this, where do you think the Raiders are going to be playing in 2012?
April 16th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
HEll sounds like a whinner fan dont it
April 16th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Lesbians love women
April 16th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Maybe I do sound like a whiner fan, TM. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. But you also sound like a drunk Raider fan who put his foot in his mouth. What else do you have in common with lesbians? Anatomy?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Ithink we have improved our defense, Kelly is back, Sapp is gone (the guy they ran over) Say what you want but Edwards, Joseph are an upgrade and Warren was the best interior lineman on the team last year. Just loosing brayton was an upgrade. Lamont and maybe Rhodes are traded for Draft choices. All I’m saying is Mcfadden has a much higher upside and I’m willing to wait another year to be a SB contender. We can find a DT in the 4th round of the draft
April 16th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I’d like to think I have a lot in common with Hugh Hefner, or any other guy who’s done quite well with women. But a lesbian? Probably very little. You know, most lesbians are not even attracted to women that men would perceive as being attractive. When have you ever seen two really hot lesbians? The ones in the porno movies you watch around the clock, I’m sure, are not lesbians. They’re porn actors, playing lesbians.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Steven how about keep it to Football and the Raiders and don’t respond to idiots like Truancy Monitor
April 16th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
WTF has this blog become?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
It’s MoRon trying to ruin everything again, Dakota.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Post 76 ..
Very entertaining.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Fraud Boy strikes again? What a friggin loser. Go upstairs and help your mom with the dishes Fraud Boy. Better yet, get a job and move out of your mom’s basement.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Ruin what, Oakglenn?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Hi Nation,
Just got in wassup?!? Dakota – post #3 man you are crazy as sh!t!! ROFLMAO!!!
April 16th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
SilverNBlack you bring up a great point about Ellis. + he loves the game, and plays with a high motor. Maybe you would like to have a guy like that on the Dline while Gerrard Warren, Terdell Sands, Kalimba Edwards, and William Joseph stand there and watch what guys who actually like to play the game look like.
BTW, Mods would you please erase #48, 52, 57, 61, and 66. That’s MoRons crap and That garbage has no place here. Can’t you guys figure a way of getting rid of him for good??
April 16th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Oakglenn, what’s ruining your little circle of commiseration here is opinions voiced in which you disagree with. Anyone can scroll back a few months and see how this all started. People were merely criticizing Davis, and it was you who started posting under peoples’s names, etc. Then they started fighting back, then you went and tattled to the mods. Since the mods no longer take you seriously, you’re not relegated to just sitting in here and crying about how people are “ruining” this place. This blog is the exact same as it was when it started. It’s you who tried to change it, into a forum of Davis Raider loyals. It didn’t happen. And you’ve been crying foul ever since.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
STFU steven, like we don’t know who you are. funny how you can’t even post maddenraider on this site. it instantaneously gets ripped. What’s that telling ya?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Oakglenn, the mods no longer take you seriously. Don’t you think they can also see your IP address attached to all of the posts that say “MaddenRaider”? Your biggest weakness Oakglenn is that you think the mods are just as dumb as the other Davis kool aid drinkers you commiserate with in here. they’re not. They have your IP address right in front of their nose, and they can see that you’re as much of a antagonizing troll as anyone here.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Oakglenn, you haven’t ripped anyone in your life, ever. You yell, shout, cry, and then rat to the mods. That’s not “ripping”.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Steven Ballbagg Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Oakglenn, what’s ruining your little circle of commiseration here is opinions voiced in which you disagree with. Anyone can scroll back a few months and see how this all started. People were merely criticizing Davis
—stop right there with Davis…..it’s the teabagger again.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Steven no one cares what you think or is talking to you.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
And Rick, was I not talking about football when I pointed out how moronic your point was on how our defense is “shored up”? How have we shored up to stop the run, Father Time?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Oakglenn, you couldn’t ignore me if you tried, sweetie.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
If you’re going to talk to yourself steven, why not go over to the raving and drooling corner, and go rave and drool all over yourself. no one is listening.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Oakglenn, I’m not talking to myself. I’m talking to you, and you’re responding every single time.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Dakota, you should’ve seen the stuff that got ripped. It’s this same sad loser, who no one talks to who is going to try to ruin everything, cause he’s a loser. Bye Steven. Bye.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Oakglenn, you can’t ignore me.
Al Davis is a horrible GM.
He’s 19-61 in 5 years. Any other GM is working at Taco Bell with that record.
You can’t ignore that.
1) You know it’s ture.
2) You have an uncontrollable urge to combat it, anyway.
You can’t ignore me. I own your pea sized brain, and control it.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
What else do you expect from Natrona County Wyoming Bronco Boy?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Hi Oakglenn, Hi. Still here. And, Oakglenn, I just reviewed the thread. Is all that true about your dad, or was it just some troll posting under your name?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Fraud boy is spot-on about Al Davis though, lol.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
If it’s true, Oak, it’s all good. There’s nothing wrong with it.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
So then Dakota, how would he be a “fraud boy”, if he’s right?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
As of right now right now the Raiders have sold 30,000 season tickets – last year they sold 9,000 season tickets all together – Tha Town is going to be knockin every damn game!! – No blackouts this year gentlemen – Get your season tickets before its to late…
April 16th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Doe Doe, it was smart to keep Kiffin’s ousting under raps while the season tix were being sold. I agree. I feel sorry for those 30,000 people, though. My god are they paying for a trainwreck.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Why cry about Al’s erronous forray as a GM? Does he really care what Raider Nation thinks? No.
Regardless of who we draft, I will not let go of hope that the team will get better. It maybe a forlorn hope, but as a diehard Radier fan, I could care less.
What we think or say doesn’t change a thing for Al. As long as he holds the reins, he is going to do things his own maverick ways. At least this team isn’t owned by Daniel Snyder
April 16th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
You will always be Fraud Boy because you used multiple personalities to come in here and back up your own posts…that is about as fraudulent and pathetic as it gets…I could call you Pathetic Boy, but that goes unsaid.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
DoeDoe, that’s exactly right. Raider tix are a hot commodity!!!!
April 16th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Dang OG what did i miss – Someone impersonating you again??
April 16th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Iowa, I’m not just crying about it. I’m protesting it, too. I’m holding on to my dollar. I’m not one of those 30,000 idiots that handed my kids’ college money over to Al Davis to watch James Lofton, Greg Knapp, and Rob Ryan try to get this squad of underachievers beyond the 2 win mark while Kiffin stands there with his mouth duct taped.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Dakota, what proof do you have of anyone posting under multiple names? Only the site’s administration has access to IP addresses.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Yep, Steven “the loser” ballsack is here to ruin everything. You may want to ignore whatever that imbecile posts.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
anyone want to talk Raiders and less fraud boy???
April 16th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Steven, Protest all you want, and take your money to Donkeyland, the Kitchen, or the Electric Company. I hear they all enjoy fair weather fans.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Doe Doe,
you call Oakglenn, “OG”?
LOL! I’ve seen it all.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
As I do everyday – Thanks for the heads up – What are we up to 9 different personalties not counting the times he acted as you Bob Marly and others…
April 16th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Lol, the first time I called you fraud boy you admitted it…go look it up. You said something like “so what, there is no rule against it, blah blah blah”
Fraudulent and Pathetic.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Why should I take my money to the Broncos? I’m a Raider fan. I’m just holding on to my money until the team is managed properly, again.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
I already have in my years and years of infinate wisdome. He needs a time out. He’s a blog bully.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
See Iowa when you have a Whiner fan in here telling everyone not to be Raider fans it’s pretty obvious when you look at it.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Someone tell me how the need for a run stuffing DT translates into we need to take a run stuffing DT at #4?
Or how the need for some pass rush help translate into pick #4?
How many run stuffing DTs are there in the league today that were drafted in the top 5?
The pro bowl DEs?
Kapman 5th rd pick
Kearney 31s pick overall
Jared Allen 4th rd pick
Kyle Vanden Bosch 2nd rd pick
Osi Umenyiora 2nd rd pick
Trent Cole 5th rd pick
Aaron Schobel 2nd rd pick
Why is it that the Raiders are the only ones who can address defensive line help by using a top 5 pick when no one else has to?
Can we please just pick up a DT and DE after round 1?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Dakota, what evidence do you have of anyone posting under multiple names? And how can you determine that some of your non-fraud buddies here like Oakglenn don’t post under multiple names, as well?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
These chumps are why I quit coming here Oak, its like talking to a 14 year old niner fan. No fun.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I have followed this blog since the beginning of last season and it is amazing the amount of trash that shows up. Raider Haters pretending to be Nation Members???
Guys like Steven need to take their money and buy some cheeze to go along with their whine
April 16th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Real Raider fans would not come in here posting as different people. Real Raider fans would not lie and then lie about that. Real Raider fans would not tell others not to go to Raider games. Real Raider fans would not steal other peoples names and then post under those names. Only someone bent to eff things up would do those things.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Rick, how have we shored up our defense for the run? Are you going to answer that, or cry about me asking you the question? If you want to spend your retirement in here pretending you have some sort of wisdom with a bunch of younger Raider fans, you might want to proofread your posts for accuracy before hitting submit.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Oak…I agree
April 16th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Oakglenn, who has posted under different people, and how do you know this? The only way to prove such a thing is to have access to IP addresses. Do you know my IP address, Oakglenn?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
KD, Iowa it is amazing. But if you go to the Bronco site or the Whiner site or the Disharge site, you have like 3 people conversing. Here, you have hundreds of people talking football from around the world. Idiots come in here and try to ruin it. Just the way it is.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Oh, look who’s back.
Mr. Republican from Rich Town.
KD, did a little research on Richmond CAlifornia last night, after you claimed that liberals aren’t welcome there. Turns out the entire town is liberal, with a green party mayor.
Care to explain?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t. I know you did. Guilty as charged fraud boy. If you want justice, go to one of your Broncos’ blogs. Here you will never be anything but a pathetic fraud boy.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Good points Jhill (post #130)! I agree with exception of taking Gholston, I truly think the guy would be a difference maker. Otherwise, get a bigbody in rd 4.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Dakota, you based naming someone “fraud boy” on them fraudulently posting as others, yet you now admit you have no proof of them doing so? We had a retard sandwich for lunch today, didn’t we kiddo?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Sorry Jhill, that was post #129!
April 16th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Juvenile vitriol.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
For cryin out loud, look at the history! So we have been bad since the last SB appearance. It’s not like we are the Bucs or Saints of the 70s.
There is always HOPE and if you give up HOPE, you aren’t a fan.
All of you who say you aren’t going to spend money on tickets, do you really think big AL cares? (no brainer answer)
Jhill, I agree completely on getting D line help later in the draft. Frankly, I think O line help is more important. Where is our LT????? I don;t see one on the roster that can do the job.
Without a good LT, Miller stays in to help block, RB (whoever that will be) stays in the backfield to pick up the blitz, leaving 3 receivers to be covered by the secondary.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Dakota, are you handicapped? I’m just asking. Just..I dunno. The way you write, and everything. Your style of insults…
You’re young, right? You’re probably just a kid.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Exactly billy, who would think of doing that? It’s not a flippin political party you have to worry about fella. It’s the thousands who don’t have enough sense to vote. You are really sheltered huh. Enjoy it you blindness hommie, ignorance is bliss.
April 16th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
“You’re just a fraud boy, fraud boy”.
LOL.
The Jerk II
April 16th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
I cant wait to thourghly outplay,demorlize,kick the living SHIT out of denver.GOOO RAIDERS 11-5
April 16th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
KD, if Richmond as as patriotic and right wing as you made it sound, you would have to think that the town wouldn’t elect all liberals, and even a green party member to it’s mayoral seat. Wouldn’t there be at least one Republican on that counsel, if anyone in the Rich thought like you?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Fraud Boy, your prior admission has moved the burden of proof to your shoulders. Prove it wasn’t you Fraud Boy. Wait, you won’t because you ate a chickenshite sandwich today, and probably every day of your pathetic existence little boy. Do you make your own, or does your mommy still make them for you?
April 16th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
OK, KD, these guys in the hood who don’t have enough sense to vote (many of them are disenfranchised with criminal records), are they like you? Do they talk about how great this country is? You know, the people who do have the sense to vote come from the same blocks and even the same families that they do. And, they obviously vote hard left. So, are THEY out of touch, too?
April 16th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Dakota, grown people are talking. Go do the fraud boy thing somewhere else.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
maybe we could take Gholston at #4, have him bulk up, and play left tackle
April 16th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Good point. If AD was so in love with McFadden you would think that he would have spect more than 10 minutes with him. D. Hall spent hours with him.
That makes me think that this McFadden hype may simply be a smokescreen.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
KD, a great deal of Richmond’s voters are from the hood. The vast majority of them are. They vote hard left, all for Democrats and one Green Party member as mayor. Are they sheltered, too?
April 16th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Iowa,
I think I just have too much faith in Cable and his ZBS to worry about the line. We don’t have a left tackle that WE know about. But I’m sure Cable has his guy, or has him targeted after round 1 as well. I don’t think there are too many ZBS LTs that were drafted that high either. I could be wrong on that one. But heck, we nt 3 games towards the end of last year without giving up a sack with Sims at LT. We’ve already upgraded the position by getting rid of him. At the end of the day, I trust that Cable can get Harris where he needs to be to be a solid LT. Cable has earned that trust, don’t you think?
April 16th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
What I was trying to get across to you is NOTHING about politics. To be honest, I have never had enough money to count for much, especially in the political world. If you want to check out Richmond…take a walk through the south anytime and see how safe you feel. The locals will know if you are a punk or not and treat you accordanly. Go check out the crime rate if you feel the need to goole something.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Great, a Raiders blog with commentary from Limbaugh and Franken
April 16th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
But Jhill, look at Carolina who has a great dline: Peppers lst round, Rucker 2nd round, Jenkins 2nd round, New England all first rounders, New York Giants all first or 2nd rounders. Teams that dominate in the playoffs use hihg pix on Dlinemen. We don’t.
Yeah, Pat Williams arguably the best defensive lineman in football was undrafted. But so was Tony Romo and Antonio Gates. good for them. someone knew what they were doing, but bottom line is winning teams put a lot of high pix on their lines both offensive and defensive. We don’t.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Lol, you can’t hang Fraud Boy…giving up already. Just like usual.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Davis only spent 10 minutes with McFadden?
No way we are drafting him then.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Back to the NBA…how ’bout them Lakers!
April 16th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
No one is talking to fraud boy are they??? Ignore it and it will go away.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Jhill,
He has earned alot of trust. He turned Gallery into a respectable guard. After the Shell debacle, you could see the line lost a lot of confidence. I would like to see improved play everywhere, on offense, defense, and special teams. We have added alot of good players with either and injury history or a history of underperfoming. I cling to the hope that they all gel and we have a winning record.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
HEY K-ROCK!
I PLAY BUSH AS MY #1 BACK ON MADDEN 2008 IN FRONT OF FARGAS AND JORDAN! I HOPE BUSH READS THIS BLOG CAUSE THE RAIDER NATION KNOWS HE’S THERE AND WE WANT TO SEE HIM PLAY!
GO RAIDERS!
P.S. YES I’M YELLING, ITS LOUD IN HERE.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
I hold no excuses for where I am in life except for my poor actions. I have emergered from a pretty shitty place to establish myself o.k. I don’t care who votes for what, I KNOW if my actions at a younger age were smarter, I could have done anything, and that potencial IS what makes this country great. It is usually those who need an excuse for their own failures that blame something else. Like our government.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
KD, you said yesterday that liberals get attacked in Richmond. You brought politics into it, not me. I was just asking you if as many people in Richmond were as patriotic as you are. I don’t know anyone from Richmond. But I do know a few people from East Oakland, and none of them have given me the “if you don’t like America, leave” rant. I’ve only heard people from the suburbs say that. People in, as you put it, sheltered worlds.
KD, there has to be at least some voters from Richmond that are from the hood. I’m guessing most of them are. They all vote Democrat, and even for one green party member, which is as left wing as it gets. So, I ask you again, are these people, from the hood, sheltered and out of touch with the hood for voting Democrat? I mean, according to you, all of the g’s on the street are for Bush and love America, right?
April 16th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Oh, I forgot, all the gangstas in the Rich are for Al DAvis, too, and hold Al Davis in just as high regard as they do their own turf and families. You said that yesterday, as well.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Well Young mr Ballsack,
Its safe to say that you enjoy shoving peoples opinion back in thier face. I said shored up oops I guess I meant upgraded sorry. Our defensive line is on paper better than last years.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Oakglenn, I would like us to go D-Line. I think we can make do on the offense right now. I want us to give Bush a legit shot. He could be something special.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
KD, we’re not talking about your or your life story. You said that liberals get attacked in Richmond. You said that in response to me asking you if a lot of people in Richmond are as patriotic as you are.
KD, Why are you misrepresenting Richmond?
April 16th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
why dont the raiders and 49ers play at the same time cuz they always play right after the other team
April 16th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
How is our defensive line better at stopping the run now than they were last year, father time?
April 16th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
We cant go wrong with whoever we Draft, im not even worried about it anymore.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Rick, aka father time, you didn’t merely say our line was better on paper, you said that we no longer have to worry about the defense because we “shored up” the line. Are you sure you’re not just some 15 year old pretending to be an old man? Whatever the case, old or not, your wisdom and credibility it flying out the window. Our defensive line stopped the run like girl scouts last year, and so far the only improvement made is overpaying the same clowns.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
KD, I hear Toby Keith is doing a concert in Richmond saturday?
April 16th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Everybody in the hood in Rich Town is lining up for those Toby Keith tickets right now. They hate liberals in the Rich, boy, I tell ya….
April 16th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Ed McCabe is a card-carrying member of NFL Alumni, has organized charity golf tournaments for the organization and routinely passes out autographed photos of himself wearing an Oakland Raiders uniform in game action.
The problem is, McCabe never played for the Raiders.
McCabe had doctored a photo of former Raiders linebacker Bill Romanowski, changed the number from 53 to 29 and signed them “Ed McCabe, 29, ‘80 AFC champs.”
“He better watch out,” joked former Green Bay Packers tackle Lee Nystrom, an NFL Alumni board member.
“Romanowski might kill him.”
“It just goes to show the length and the breadth of what people will do to become significant,” former Dolphins running back Mercury Morris said.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Liberals usually bitch about the government, you were bitching about the government. It is ignorance that makes excuses, intellegence makes opportunity. Most from the “hood” are not to wise about their opportunity, which is why they are still there.
“you said yesterday that liberals get attacked in Richmond”
I didn’t mean that, the weak have more of a chance of getting attacked, robbed, shot, beat down, etc…because they are less of a threat. But everyone and anyone is a possiblity.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
No Mention on McFadden meeting with Kiffen? That is strange. I still don’t know if we are out of the woods w/ Kiffen and his problems w/ Al…and whether or not Kiff will be back
April 16th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
There’s a Rush Limbaugh book singing in Richmond on Sunday, too. Just so everyone knows. KD is already there with his sleeping bag, and he’ll probably be the only one their sunday. He’ll have his t shirt with the American flag, that says, “love it, or leave it”.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Who’s Toby Keith? And tell me the place.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Hey Steve…I have a couple pairs of boxing gloves. Why don’t we quit being bold on the net and meet up in section D, 66th ave. side, under the giant screen by the freeway. First pre-season game. I’m tired of talking.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
KD, first you misrepresent Richmond by pretending that people from there are conservative and patriotic.
You’re not recanting from that, and saying that people in Richmond are “ignorant” and “not wise”. Talk about liberals being endangered in Richmond for being weak, I wonder how well your comments would go over…
You’re not from Richmond, KD, and you know it.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
April 16th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
JHill…
We are not the only ones looking to spend a top 5 pick on DT/DE
The only reason most people have us taking McFadden is because Long, Dorsey, and Ellis are projected to go 1-2-3.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
KD, I’ll be there. And I’ll have some people from Richmond with me, so you can tell them to their face how “ignorant” they are.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
i’d like to see his responses to the other teams so we have something to compare it to, but his comments suggest that even he accepts he will be a raider, good find huff on the bush article, it will be great to see the damage he and mcfadden do for the next decade
April 16th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
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April 16th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
From SFGate.com
Mario Manningham in town; could a draft-day trade be next?
The Raiders invited Michigan receiver Mario Manningham to town Wednesday, and there’s plenty to read between the lines.
Manningham isn’t going to be the fourth player taken in the NFL Draft. He’s considered a second-round pick at best as the fourth- or fifth-best receiver on the board.
The Raiders, of course, don’t have any picks in the second or third rounds, so why bring in Manningham for a talksie if he won’t be around for the next selection at No. 104 overall?
Looks like they’re weighing some options for a potential draft-day trade that would involve multiple unwanted players, future draft picks, or both.
Manningham will certainly be available in the second, and maybe third, round. A world of potential at Michigan, his stock plummetted after lying to team officials at the NFL Combine about his drug use, followed by a sorry 4.59-second time in the 40.
He sent an apology letter to all 32 teams and admitted he flunked two drug tests. He also improved his 40-time to 4.38 at the Michigan pro day.
if he answered all the questions right Wednesday, he could entice the Raiders into making a move up the board to add depth at wide receiver.
Shoppable players include cornerbacks Fabian Washington and Stanford Routt, and to a less likely extent, quarterback Andrew Walter and safety Michael Huff. The Raiders would draw more interest if they shop future draft picks.
So, how did the Raiders end up with no picks in a space of exactly 100 draft spots?
Last month, they traded their second-round pick to Atlanta for cornerback DeAngelo Hall.
Last April, they traded this year’s third-round pick to New England so they could draft offensive tackle Mario Henderson.
They also traded a fifth-round pick to Denver last season for defensive tackle Gerard Warren. They still have single picks in the fourth and sixth round and two picks in the seventh round.
In other news:
The Chronicle has confirmed visits from four top-flight prospects — Arkansas running back Darren McFadden, Virginia defensive end Chris Long, Ohio State defensive end Vernon Gholston and Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long.
LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey is scheduled for a visit in the coming days.
– David White
April 16th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
KD’s probably from Martinez. A Right winger pretending he’s from the hood, trying to give the impression they Richmond is a right wing town. Give it up, KD.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
I will give you an exact time when pre-season schedules come out.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
TT,
See post 51, lol.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
I promise.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Anyone want to see KD try to tell some people from Richmond how ignorant and unwise they are for not supporting everything America does, I’ll have it on youtube. Coming at ya’all in August!
April 16th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
KD, I’m going to talk to my homie in Oakland, and see if he can get any cats from the Rich. I’ll have the camera rolling, and I want you to tell them Richmond folks how ignorant they are for not supporting America. Youtube’s top vid for that week, guaranteed.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Fraud Boy, you better pass on eating your chickenshite sandwich that day. I am sure your mom will forgive you.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
I was hoping with all the disrespect you throw around, you would be fighting your own fight. But I’ll still be there.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
OG,
Carolina does have a good line. But they missed the playoffs with that line in 2006 and 2007, and made it as the last team last year. They do not dominate.
The Giants do not have a bunch of high picks on their line. Coefield, a 4th rnd pick. Robbins, 2nd rd pick. Tuck, 3rd rd. Umenyiora, 2nd rd pick.
I think you could argue that the offensive teams with good defenses do WAY better than defensive teams with a good offense.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
“The new Dolphins front office “really liked” Quentin Moses in last year’s draft, according to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.
The former Dallas execs may have written off taking Moses after snapping up Anthony Spencer in round one. Assuming the ‘Fins don’t use the No. 1 pick on Chris Long, Moses could push Charlie Anderson to be their No. 3 OLB.”
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/
April 16th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
KD, I never threatened you. You threatened me. I’m only making fun of how ridiculous your misrepresentation of Richmond is. I don’t condone violence. But I will be there with some people from Richmond, and I’ll have a camera rolling. I want you to tell them what you told me.
Tell them they’re ignorant.
Tell them they’re unwise.
Tell them that if they don’t like America, they should leave.
You game for that?
April 16th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Hmm
April 16th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
i already saw all the posts from earlier in the day dakota, including 28
April 16th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Who cares.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Dodoe…
LOL, i was just about to paste it =)
April 16th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
And, KD, I really hope for your own sake that you’re black. Because if you’re white, and you say those things to people from richmond, it really might get violent. I’ll make sure we have enough security. But I really want to hear you tell a bunch of people from Richmond, to their faces, how ignorant they are. I want to hear you tell them that they should leave America if they don’t like it (most of their ancestors were kidnapped and forced to come here..).
April 16th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
TT,
Yikes, #28 was bad, lol. Keep your chin up, it just means people are reading your posts.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
What ever Billy. And yeah, I’ll still be there, I’m there very week.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
every*
April 16th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
dakota, it means people who don’t like the reality of the situation are finding a scapegoat for their anxiety…if i minded being a scapegoat for anxiety, or not being liked in general, then i wouldn’t be a raider fan, if they don’t like me, fvck em’, who cares…
April 16th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Mista,
Did you see this…do you want Baron back???
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/15/SPNF1068B3.DTL
April 16th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Yeah I read that and yes I want Baron back. Do you want to ask me about Nelson? That prick..
April 16th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Good afternoon gentlemen.
Go Lakers!!
…I mean Raiders!!
April 16th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
You going to tell a bunch of people from Richmond what you told on this blog, KD? Word for word?
April 16th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Mista,
I love Don Nelson; Phil Jackson beats him like a drum…egomaniac that can’t back it up.
Kind of like Fraud Boy, lol.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Live on youtube, KD. We’ll have security to make sure it doesn’t get violent, especially since you’re the one who seems to be obsessed with fighting. You’ll probably throw the first punch. But I just want to see if any Raider fan really has the balls to tell a bunch of people from Richmond that they are ignorant, unwise, and should leave America if they don’t like it’s establishment.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
The Lakers suck.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
After reading that I am shocked that Don Nelson still has a job.
So, let’s just tank this game because there is no way that Memphis is going to beat Denver. WTF??
Don Nelson = QUITTER
April 16th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
What-ever you say Billy.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
jhill, you forgot Strahan. Peppers was a top 10 pick and they went to the Super Bowl in what 05??
KD, do yourself a favor. Don’t talk to that trash.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
No, it’s whatever you say, KD.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
MaddenRaider Slapper Says:
April 9th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
The propaganda of MaddenRaider
“Davis didn’t even want Marcus Allen. He was Wolf’s pick.”
USA Today Sports Weekly April 2004
He(Ron Wolf) takes credit for selecting Kenny Stabler and gives Davis credit for Gene Upshaw and Cliff Branch. “And even though their relationship soured, AL DRAFTED Marcus Allen.” -Ron Wolf-
April 16th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Oakglenn,
KD says that people in Richmond are ignorant and unwise, and believes that if they don’t like America, they should leave.
You agree?
April 16th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Yeah..I’m out Oak, he’s proved to be a jail-house PUNK anyway. I just wanted to pull his card. Peace.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Man, I bet MaddenRaider ran to the teacher in elementary after all the kids he mouthed off to threatened to beat him up.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Good work, Oakglenn. My source was Marcus Allen himself, via his book, where he swears that it was Wolf who drafted him. Corrected. Still think Al Davis sucks and that Ron Wolf deserves more credit than Al for our great teams of the past, though, and your USA Today article does nothing to dispel it.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
If we keep the 4th and trade some dead weight (Washington, Stu, etc.) for more picks, this draft is ddep enough at Dline and OT to pick up quality players in the 3rd and 4th round.
Look at the 1st round draft history and you see it’s all a giant crapshoot.
If Mcfadden is the pick, I’m happy. If it’s C Long, I’m happy. If it’s (insert name here), I’m happy.
No “one” player is gonna turn this wagon around. As long as the pick makes us a better team, I’m all for whoever we pick.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Wow. Strange blog today. Not a lot of Raider talk in you guys, eh?
April 16th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
This IS a repost of what I said, read it again a quit putting shallow ignorant lies in my mouth. Coward.
Repost…
“Liberals usually bitch about the government, you were bitching about the government. It is ignorance that makes excuses, intellegence makes opportunity. Most from the “hood” are not to wise about their opportunity, which is why they are still there.”
“you said yesterday that liberals get attacked in Richmond”
I didn’t mean that, the weak have more of a chance of getting attacked, robbed, shot, beat down, etc…because they are less of a threat. But everyone and anyone is a possiblity.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
oakglenn, strahan was a 2nd rounder, peppers was 2nd overall and arguably the leagues best DE, but we don’t need the leagues best DE, did one great DE single handedly turn the panthers into a great defense, have they not been been one of the most inconsistent teams of this decade? and havn’t the giants? one DE will not turn our team into a great team and not all great DEs are 1st rnd picks, most of the greatest RBs of all time have been 1st rnd picks
April 16th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
OG,
The point was not “all” of their Dline were first or 2nd rndrs.
And that Carolina does not dominate in the playoffs.
I’d also bet that most people consider NE an offensive team.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
KD, I thought you were a patriot? Shouldn’t you like jail house snitches? They’re helping the good guys, right? Now you’re sounding like a gansgta. And, you know how your ‘love America or leave it’ crowd feels about ghetto thugs, don’t you?
Which is it, KD?
And, I never claimed to be a gangsta, or hard core. I couldn’t be a jail house snitch because I’ve never committed any crimes, nor do I have any knowledge of any. So I don’t know how you could be insulting me by calling me a “jail house punk”.
You’re one confused person, that’s for sure. Patriotic American right winger on one end, wannabe street thug on the other. Must be rough.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Indeed Iowa.
However, I’d really hate to see Bush get screwed by taking another RB though. I’m thinking by week 10 he’s getting the majority of the carries.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
“Still think Al Davis sucks and that Ron Wolf deserves more credit than Al for our great teams of the past, though, and your USA Today article does nothing to dispel it.”
Well, Al Davis was, is and will always be in charge and Ron Wolf admits that of these 4 HOFers(Snake & Branch deserve it), 3 were taken by Al Davis, but yeah I can see why a logical non-biased, free-thinking indivdual like MaddenRaider would think Wolf deserves all the credit…Oh, I’m not OakGlenn, just another poster that thinks you’re a pansy & are full of it.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Oakglenn, or,…excuse me..”MaddenRaiderSlapper” (I’ll play along..), do you have a link to the USA today article, which quotes Wolf? Just want to make sure you’re not cutting corners, that’s all. But so far, I believe you.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
TommyTrojan,
If we get McFadden, what happens to Bush????
Just how many carries are there to be had to share in the backfield with Rhoades/Bush/Fargas/McFadden???
In a standout position like RB, no one likes riding the pine.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
I know you don’t undertand. Everyone in this blog has ALWAYS known you just don’t get it.
You might want to hope you never go to jail to find out what makes you a jail-house-punk.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
This blog usually gets off topic because of MaddenRaider’s needs for attention. Unfortunately since he’s been kicked of message boards, he has to come here
April 16th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
saint, mcfadden and bush will have longer shelf lives together
April 16th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Ok, MaddenRaiderSlapper, you’re not Oakglenn ( still playing along..). But do you have a link to the USA Today article which quotes Wolf? I want to see if he’s quoted in the article just as you quoted him in your post.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I still think that a healthy Michael Bush helps the team more than McFadden. Bush is the bus with speed! he has size, strength, and speed. If he wouldn’t of gotten hurt that last year in college, DMAC hype would be half the level it is right now.
I think he needs to get his shot before taking another RB in the draft.
With that said, again, as long as who we pick helps the team, I will be happy
April 16th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
WTF?? This forum blows today. People… shut the F up and talk football, not this 3rd grade bs. Grow up A-Holes!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Alright, MaddenRaiderSlapper, you’re not Oakglenn, but you just sound like him, right up to your complaints about MaddenRaider needing attention. Whatever. But do you have the link to the USA Today article which quotes Wolf? Does the article exist, Oak? I mean…MAddenRaiderslapper?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Again dummy, I’m not OakGlenn, No I don’t have a link to a paper I bought off the newstand in 2004.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Brown81, its basketball & baseball season. What do you want to talk about?
Oh wow that O-lineman out of Rutgers sure looks like a good ZBS fit ohhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhh lets draft him!!
U happy?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
The Raiders are working out Richmond, RB Tim Hightower, and from another site guys are saying Gholston just had a private workout with the team. Also Davis loves DMAC but is going to draft Gholston. Burgess has created enough of a problem that the DE position is the focus thus far.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Iowa, I agree with you. At #4 there really aren’t any picks that would hurt us. Some might be better than others, though. I’m not sure that DMAC is one of them, but if we end up with him, that’s fine with me.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
KD, I’m very surprised. Here I was thinking you were a true patriotic American. Just a day ago, you were telling me to leave the country for criticizing the government. Now, you’re trivializing jail house informants and using their title to insult people and label them as weak or emasculated. I thought jail house informants help the good guys? They put the bad guys behind bars, don’t they? That’s what most “love America, or leave it” people think. Which is it, KD? Are you a patriotic American, or a street thug sympathizer?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
RaiderRick,i read u been SILVER/BLACK since 1960.Ive been S/B since 1962,its good 2 talk 2 a well informed insightfull RAIDERBROTHER.You 2 DAKOTA keep it comming,and everyone else try 2 keep it real
April 16th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
iowa, i’ve already answered that but don’t feel like finding the exact post, so i’ll rewrite it…
this year mcfadden will be the primary back and fargas the primary back up, bush will be the goalline/short yardage back, he’ll also be the out of the backfield recieving threat while mcfadden offers an intermediate recieving threat, fargas will be the late game back and immediate backup, bush will be the third down backup and fargas’ backup late in the game, in every other scenario mcfadden is the back, fargas has one or two more years with us based on his age and inury history, so bush and mcfadden are our long-term options, and because bush and mcfadden offer very different elements with similar versatility they are perfect complements to eachother, we will likely see them on the field at the same time alot
April 16th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Brown81,
Chad Johnson is forcing Cincys hand lets talk about how good he will look in silver & black cause I want a head case mental patient WR that acts like a 12 year old trying to be funny after every TD he catches.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Bush is going to be just as exciting as Jamarcus. I think I’ll make the trip to Seattle to check out the preseason game just because of those 2 guys.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Mista… last time I checked this was a RAIDERS forum. Just in case you need an update the Raiders do play football. Although, I’d be happy to talk about baseball and basketball and hockey (you forgot that one) instead of the childish bs being thrown around here.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
The USA Today article doesn’t exist, does it Oakglenn? Just as I thought. I take back my concession. As far as I’m concerned, Ron Wolf drafted Marcus Allen, until someone furnishes a link demonstrating otherwise.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
It’s not a question of McFadden over Bush …
It’s McFadden AND Bush.
Fargas would be on the bench, not Bush.
And it’s about touches, not necessarily carries. Bush and McFadden would both see their fair share of touches.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Yeah, I don’t know that Ocho Cinco is the answer to our WR problems. Dude’s got talent, but then again so does Moss, he didn’t help us out much.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Brown81 theres no football news to talk about. These guys have been playing draft expert prognosticator for 3 months now. Im ready to vomit allover my laptop..
April 16th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
On the other hand, Mista, to play devil’s advocate. If Ocho Cinco could give us a TD per game… I don’t know, I might take that chance.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
yeah, good point. i hear ya.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Eloquently put there, Brown81. #242
I wanted to say something but you’ll just get drawn into their little tift. Lovers?? Ha!!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Talk about frauds, Dakota.
Your boy Oakglenn, fraudulently posting under the name “MaddenRaiderSlapper”, fraudulently claimed that Al Davis drafted Marcus Allen and that Ron Wolf had nothing to do with it, then fraudulently posted a bogus USA Today article to back up his point.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Ha! Maybe so Saintkaufman. Mistabrown has a good point though, too. There’s not much football to talk about these days. We’re all killing time until the draft.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Oakglenn, any other bogus newspaper articles you want to post to try and downplay Ron Wolf’s role in the Raiders drafting during their good years?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Al Davis will draft McFadden no matter what. Our offense has no explosiveness right now, no threats. McFadden is the type of guy that will open up everything for our offense because the defense always has to have a man on him, and we will get creative and move him all over the field. Our d line will improve from health alone (Burgess, Kelly, Warren), and from our offense being out on the field a little longer and putting up points. Also from not just being ran on from being behind. Edwards/Richardson, Sands/Warren/Joseph, Kelly, Burgess can definetly be an effective d line.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
I will agree any political post should be deleted by the Moderator but hes been asleep at the wheel since the season ended.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Reckon.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Juvenile vitriol
April 16th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
True that, Mista!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
And for our RB situation, Rhodes and Jordan can both be cut, no big deal. Fargas is 29 and gets hurt nearly every year, Bush is coming off 2 surgeries with multiple rods inserted in his leg, with two years off, thats about as big of a question mark as it gets.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Somebody help me here, but is a Raider fan actually accusing others of juvenile vitriol? That’s the pot calling the kettle black…
April 16th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Raiders2, I see your point. But wouldn’t you say that Russell could be a potential threat? What about Bush? We don’t even know what we’ve got in the guy. DMAC is a big investment, financially and otherwise. I don’t know that I would pull the trigger on that, but like I said earlier, if we end up with him… so be it.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
KD, when you’re around your patriotic, American loving pals, many of them probably cops, do you tell them what you think of jail house snitches, informants they rely on to make arrests?
When you’re back in Richmond, do you tell people from Richmond how unwise and ignorant they are, and how they should leave America if they don’t like it?
It must be rough to straddle the fence the way you do. How about just getting on one side or the other, and having some conviction?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Not OakGlenn dummy. It’s USA Today Sports Weekly, the cover says On Sale April 21-27, 2004. It has Kellen Winslow, Kenechi Udeze & Eli Manning on the cover. The title of the Ron Wolf article on page 21 is titled “Former draft insider Wolf says Manning is Chargers’ Man”. Paragraph 16 details the point that says you are a liar. Wolf also tells John Czarnecki that respected Bill Walsh & Al Davis for their drafting ability.
He also says Philip Rivers will not be great and was unsure on Roethlisberger, thought he seemed a little like Kerry Collins.
I don’t expect you to believe this, Afterall these are facts which proves your stupidity and how far from reality YOU are.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Raiders2, who would you take if DMAC was off the board at #4? Who’s your plan B? Just curious.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
jhill: i just read that article and that is the EXACT thing I said!!! Bush isn’t the same type of runner that mcfadden is. He’s the thunder and mcfadden is the lightening. if they took bush i would assume it would be fargas/mcfadden and bush. the other two would be gone.
ct
April 16th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I think we should fire Kiffin and hire a real old school coach, John Madden, to come back and take the team to glory. (SARCASM in capital letters)
MistaBrown, is that ok for a non draft post???
BTW, I’ve already had to clean the vomit off my computer 5 times
April 16th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Oakglenn, hello???
Any more bogus articles you want to post to downplay Ron Wolf’s significance in building the old Raider teams?
You can post under your name or “MaddenRaiderSlapper”, I’ll know it’s you, sweetie.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
brown, how would mcfadden be off the board?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Cute, Oakglenn. Now just link the article. You do understand that in order to make a point in cyberspace, you have to cite a link to prove the point. You can’t just say you bought some newspaper 10 years ago, and that it’s in there.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Also, I never downplayed Wolf’s role(only a MaddenRaider would think Wolf wasn’t an integral part of our success), however, you’re the one that tries to portray that Al Davis just stood there while Ron made every pick as Player Personnel Director. Of course, I backed it up my claim that you are a liar, by stating words coming DIRECTLY from Ron Wolf’s mouth which supports my viewpoint and shows how delusional and ignorant you are. You can’t even admit that you are dead f-ing wrong, because your gigantic message board ego won’t allow it.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
TT, it’s a hypothetical question. He probably won’t be, but I’m just curious as to who he (or you) would have as your plan B.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
ballbagg, i don’t know about the validity of the post, and frankly don’t care, but they’re not the same person…
April 16th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Iowa thats good & Tom Flores can be the OC.
Fire Rob Ryan its never too late Al!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Tommy, Tommy…
Brown asks Raiders2 a question and you can’t help yourself! Infatuation…..
April 16th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Oakglenn, rather wolf said it or not, I still think the Raiders have zero super bowl trophies without him.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Brown81 I’m with you on that Russell could be a threat, and Bush too, but Bush is just such a huge question mark. I can’t think of any player ever who has missed two years with multiple surgeries, multiple rods, especially a running back. I hope he’s everything he was supposed to be but we just can’t count on it at this point. And also thinking down the line a little bit if Bush is effective him and McFadden and Russell will be deadly. If this team is to contend for a championship a few years down the line (3-4) than by that time Fargas, Rhodes, and Jordan will all no longer be with us. Its just my opinion that McFadden is truly something special and we cant afford to miss out on that because of Justin Fargas. Its far more rare to find a gamebreaking weapon on offense than someone that can play some run D.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
# Tommy Trojan Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
ballbagg, i don’t know about the validity of the post, and frankly don’t care, but they’re not the same person…
….
How do you know?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
my board:
1.McFadden
2.Long
3.Gholston
4.Ellis
5.Dorsey
long will be gone at either #1 or #2 and dorsey will be gone at #3
April 16th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
If he’s off the board, I go C Long.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Hey MaddenRaider, you JUST said that Wolf drafted marcus Allen because Marcus thought that. And where did you get this? Oh, it’s in Marcus’s book. So where’s your link dummy?!…But hey keep thinking Ron Wolf drafted Marcus Allen when Ron Wolf SAYS you’re an idiot and I provide a source for it.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Oakglenn, or MR Slapper (I’m sorry, I keep forgetting…),
If Al Davis did most of the drafting then, explain the last 5 years? Ron Wolf has never been 19-61 in any 5 year period of his life!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
My Board
1. McFadden
2. C. Long
3. Dorsey
4. J. Long
5. Ellis
April 16th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Yeah I see your point Radiers2. That’s good logic. Honestly, I go back and forth on it. I could probably be swayed to take him, though. Somebody posted earlier about DMAC and Bush being like lightning and thunder. Who knows, maybe that’s out backfield combo for the future. Could be a pretty sweet duo, like Wheatley and Garner.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Why do you talk to that imbecile??? Don’t talk to that imbecile.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Steven Ballbagg Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Oakglenn, rather wolf said it or not, I still think the Raiders have zero super bowl trophies without him.
—
LMAO! and where would this team be if Al Davis was never hired.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
That’s fair, Oakglenn…I mean, MaddenRaiderSlapper. You’re right. I quoted Marcus’s book, and I can’t prove it. However, Marcus’s book is much easier to access than one article in the USA Today.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Mista,
I think it’s funny we ended up with Rob after Rex turned us down. The good Ryan is with Baltimore and we got potgut Rob who hasn’t combed his locks in about 3 years. I admire Rob for his physique. I mean, you can’t get that buff eating big macs can you????????
April 16th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
ballbagg, i can’t know for sure but they’ve both been posting at the same time before and have had disagreements before, so if your correct then that would constitute insanity on the part of whoever the person is
April 16th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Oakglenn, I mean, MaddenRaiderSlapper, where would the Raiders be if Al Davis was never hired?
Where are they now?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
I agree with both you guys, I would go with C. Long also. My dilemna is that I can’t decide who I’d rather have, C. Long or DMAC. I like Long’s motor (not cause he Howie’s boy) and I think he could have an immediate impact on our D, which still needs help. But, you guys have made some good points about DMAC.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
OG do you have last season recorded on tape?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Yeah Kiffin knew what to do with White and R. Bush too.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Oakglenn, just a pointer, make sure you delete the website box before posting as MaddenRaiderslapper again, otherwise your web address under Oakglenn will show up, as well.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
You guys this imbecile is here to get the pro davis people against the anti davis people, the pro kiff people against the anti kiff people, everyone against each other. That;s why in one post he’s pro Kiff and then he posts as Fire Kiffin. Don’t even talk to him. He’s a liar, a fraud and a loser. he’s a whiner fan, not a raider fan.
And BTW loser, I’m not MaddenRaider Slapper for the 100th time.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
DoeDoe a couple of games but not the whole season.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Oakglenn, guess we all know now that you’re not here to just talk football and be positive. You handle your flaming wars under the name “MaddenRaiderSlapper”, and probably numerous others. You know that everyone here knows that, right? You know that this is why the mods don’t take your tattle tales seriously anymore, right?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
The only place he had GM Duties was Green Bay and Tampa. In Tampa the were 7-37…BTW I’m done for the night, so spread your stupidity.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Slapper why argue with him, he’s a whiner fan.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Oakglenn, everyone knows you’re MaddenRaiderSlapper, including the mods. That’s why your tattle tales fall on their deaf ears, anymore.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
next we will hear that me, jhill, and thec are all the same person because we are all to an extent, in support of taking mcfadden
oh no, shouldn’t have given MR any ideas…
April 16th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
He’s just here to cause problems. Every time he is here there are nothing but problems. Why do you talk to him????
April 16th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
# MaddenRaider Slapper Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
The only place he had GM Duties was Green Bay and Tampa. In Tampa the were 7-37…BTW I’m done for the night, so spread your stupidity.
….
Oakglenn, 7-37 is not as bad as 19-61. Ron Wolf built a Super Bowl team in Green Bay in the 1990s, a decade when Al Davis couldn’t get the Raiders off the ground. It’s very likely Ron Wolf did most of the drafting for the Raiders in their great years. We know it wasn’t Davis. Smart football guys don’t forget how to build teams, and never lose 61 games in 5 years.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
OakGlenn, trolls and derelicts only pop up when you are here, just an observation.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
I wish the NFL would sell DVD’s of full seasons of Thee Raiders.. I bet they would sell a lot
April 16th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Another reason for McFadden is our ZBS, it fits him absoultely perfect. Whats his best asset? His burst, explosiveness through a crease. With the cutback lanes being produced by our blocking scheme he would have so many huge runs.
Here’s his strengths from Scouts, Inc., parlay that into a ZBS and tell me thats not perfect.
Strengths: Phenomenal athlete. Possesses good height and adequate bulk (better upper-body than lower-body). Rare burst for his size; no play better illustrates that second-gear better than his 73-yard touchdown run in the third quarter versus LSU. He runs with good vision and great patience but explodes through the line of scrimmage once he finds the crease. Very few NFL runners possess his type of second-gear to bounce runs outside and to run away from defenders in the open field. Very fluid in space and can change directions without losing much momentum at all. He can be a powerful runner with a full head of steam. Exceptional stiff arm. Very strong upper body. Keeps his legs pumping in traffic and will break many attempted arm tackles. Displays outstanding balance. Will gain lots of yards after contact simply because he bounces off the tackler and regains his balance instead of going down. Lacks ideal experience as a receiver but is fluid enough to adjust to poorly thrown ball and displays very soft hands for a RB. Can also be an occasional passing threat in the NFL, as seen in his dual-threat role as the signal caller in the Razorbacks’ Wild Hog formation.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Not at all, Tommy Trojan. I haven’t seen any posts under names other than yours that make me suspect it’s you. And same with the other people you mentioned.
But anyone who hasn’t figured out that Oakglenn is MaddenRaiderSlapper has the IQ of a toaster.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Doe Doe
not lately
April 16th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Dmac would surely be a help…but honestly… we have more runners than we have touches for them to have… … what Dmac gives us … is less than what C.long or Ellis would give us.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
OakGlenn, trolls and derelicts only pop up when you are here, just an observation.
……
And a balls on accurate observation, at that!
Great post, Mistabrown.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
hmmm …that post by Teyo #190 …1st Devin Thomas now Manningham? I wonder if a trade is already in the works? Or are they just doing their due diligence?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
“He can be a powerful runner with a full head of steam. Exceptional stiff arm. Very strong upper body. Keeps his legs pumping in traffic and will break many attempted arm tackles. Displays outstanding balance. Will gain lots of yards after contact simply because he bounces off the tackler and regains his balance instead of going down”
for all of those who argue against mcfadden, you all claim the exact opposite of every one of these statements, i’ve told you that those are outright lies, it’s not just my “opinion”, it’s the conclusion of those who have actually evaluated him
April 16th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
And, Mistabrown, that’s because Oakglenn is most of the trolls, himself. You get one guy in here who disses Al in the slightest, even in the most respectful way, and Oakglenn all of a sudden attacks him under like 8 different names. Then that person will naturally fight back, and that’s where Oakglenn cries foul and accuses the “trolls” of “ruining” the blog. He’s a load, that’s for sure.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Thanks Brown for backing me up while this imbecile posts a bunch of racist homophobic crap under my name. Thanks.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Mistabrown, read the posts by “MaddenRaiderSlapper”, and see if they remind you of anyone.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Tommy like I said, I like Dmac, I just think we go from playing in games 21-14 to getting into games 41-31, which is certainly not Kiffs strength.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Oakglenn, don’t get mad because he’s telling the truth. It’s something anyone here can see. We get a lot of different opinions in here, some for Al, some against, but you just can not handle the people speaking against Al. That’s when you convert into your alter egos like MR slapper, and over time, people here start to catch on to the fact that all of these flaming wars only happen when YOU are here.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Howie Long doesnt want his overrated kid to be a Raider…and I dont either,..if it isnt Dorsey then its a wasted pick.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
oak if we were giving up only 14 points(really an average of 25), with last year’s D, and we have made great improvements to last year’s D, how will teams be scoring 31
April 16th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Nation, what up. Dang leave for amin boom blog explodes.
TT, at least you get to be richard gere, i get to be the hampster lol
April 16th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
As supreme commander of the McFadden Nation I hereby renounce the cease fire. A Raider Nation Civil War over McFadden is better than listening to this crap.
DRAFT MCFADDEN!
Fire away TT, Saint, Lefty, BHP, Glory, Thec etc…
April 16th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Also TommyTrogan,Oren Oneal is 5-11&248lbs.HE would also be great in short yardage.GO RAIDERS
April 16th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
And another thing,..why the Hell we havent traded for Chad Johnson is a mystery,…doubt it would happen twice, a Moss like situation…just do it already…give them a 2nd rounder in 2009,…Im all for it….and so would Russell be all for it.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
and oak, that is kiffins strength, he’s an offensive coach, give him great offensive wheapons and he’ll give you a great offense
April 16th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
The question you have to ask yourself is why would someone post the same anti Raider slop, say they’re a fan, yet fight with all the fans, tell others not to go to games, tell others to boycott the team, steal others identities, lie about it, start fights with everyone, lie about that, be convicted over and over of fruad, have yourself banned from other Raider sites, be banned off this site then have your #1 nickname banned off this site???? Why is that????
April 16th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
And Oakglenn, you have a lot of nerve complaining about people posting under other people’s names. You posted under the name Repo Man earlier, saying something about “gay pride”….and note that all the gay stuff earlier today started with that very post! You sparked that one, bud.
Then, you reverted back to your usual critter, MaddenRaiderSlapper.
Now you’re called on it, even by some of the other regulars in here. Cry away, kiddo. You’ve been outed.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I’d trade for Chad Johnson if we could, I just don’t know what would get it done.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Oakglenn, when was I “convicted of fraud”? LOL.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Sorry Oak but Ive said it before and it continues to be obvious…
When you are here there is troll activity! When you are not here its quiet.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
No thanks Dakota(#330).
I’m interested in football players, no comic book superheros!
Dallas or Denver, Dallas or Denver..
April 16th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Dakota post 330, ROFLMAO.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Oh yeh, I forgot. I was arrested, and charged with fraudulently posting on a Raiders website under multiple screen names. And, yes, Oakglenn is right; I was convicted! I’m doing 10 years in Folsom. So, I guess I will be a jail house snitch, like KD said, and turn you in for fraud too, Oakglenn. LOL.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
You’re the self proclaimed insider you tell us why !
# Alameda Insider Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
And another thing,..why the Hell we havent traded for Chad Johnson is a mystery,…doubt it would happen twice, a Moss like situation…just do it already…give them a 2nd rounder in 2009,…Im all for it….and so would Russell be all for it.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
What a bad day for Oakglenn, man.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Saint,
I want Denver…maybe I could get tickets!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Who wants a mustache ride?
April 16th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
That would be sweet.
I’ll pull for Denver then.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
antispy3, Hey bro post 76 funny as hell. I am going to rent the movie.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
dakota, i’m saving my money for BOS
April 16th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Ok Mista,..I wil ltell you why,…because what Chad really wants is a big contract,..likea 70 million dollar deal,..thats what its all about,..and Oakland likey would have done it but cant now with the big dough they already have shelled out,…I of course would rather have Hall then Johnson,..but Johnson would be great in Oakland,…Im not positive it wont happen,..stay tuned…my contacts on the island arent giving me anything on this one…so thats a good sign.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
What I am saying TT is not that we were averaging giving up 14 points a game, it’s just Kiff is a coach who likes to grind it out, keep it close and try to win it in the end. Classic Jimmy Johnson, Parcells, kind of philosophy as opposed to the Coryell, tee it up and let it fly philosophy.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
The only one higher than McFadden on Oakland’s draft board should be Dorsey. If they can’t get one of these two, it’s time to trade down, address some needs and save some $$$$$$$$$
April 16th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Saint, I really hope you’re talking about the Nuggets.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
TT,
That would be something. LA-Boston finals…David Stern just creamed his shorts.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
saint, the raiders won a SB(our best team, arguably the best single year team ever) in LA, and denver is the home of the donkeys
April 16th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
TT, I disagree the 76′ RAIDERS IMO was the best team.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
You guys I want to apologize that I have my own stalker/groupie here. That a day can’t go by without hundreds of posts about me from her. sorry that it gets in the way.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
oak, kiff hates to do that but that’s what our offense was limited to last year
April 16th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
the 83 team was the most balanced team ever, they had no weakness
April 16th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
TT, you really think??? You might know him better than me cause I didn’t follow his 2 year tenure at SC, but that was just the feeling I got watching him last year. A lot of coaches don’t want to see games get out of control. In fact most don’t.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Looks like she’s finally gone.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Tommy,
What???
I get ya Brown.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Kids, have a good night. I’m out!
April 16th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
scoring points isn’t out of control, scoring points puts you in control, only when your D is horrible, like in CIN, does it ever get out of control, kiffin is an offensive coach who wants to score, our offense was limited last year but compare it to the 2006 team, now apply that same amount of improvement to last year’s offense, and then top that off with mcfadden, that is a lane kiffin team
April 16th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
The ‘83 team was pretty great once Mike Haynes came on board. Before that, they struggled somewhat.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
I of course want Dorsey,..but it will not happen,…unless something shocking happens, pencil in McFadden as your next Raider.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Tommy, Post#354??
I watched the ‘83 SB from my recliner, beer in hand, while I lived in L.A.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
76 team had no weaknesses either. Which team has the most players in the hall?
April 16th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
The 2002 team was great until me and my people saw Robbins at about midnight in TJ the night before the game,…we win that game if he doesnt flip out….Robbins all drunk, wearin a sombrero,…game was 15 hours away…we wake up to ESPN and Robbins picture up on the screen,..knew the game was screwed…hope hes dead somewhere.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Tommy I disagree with that in that certain coaches when they walk on to the field, have complete utter control of the game. And basically they want to take control, punish their opponent, until their opponent doesn’t want to fight anymore. When you get into shoot out games that doesn’t happen. He who has the ball last wins.
When you have a bottom ranked defense, and you add offensive players to score points, that to me is exactly where you are headed, into shoot out games. Which I can guarantee you any solid coach hates.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Saint,
I think TT was trying to say that you have to go for the Lakers against Denver because the Raiders once played in LA and the Nuggets play in Denver, home of the Broncos.
I could be wrong…but I doubt it.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
1976 Oakland Raiders
Regular Season
Week 1 Sep 12 W 31-28 vs Pittsburgh Steelers
Week 2 Sep 20 W 24-21 at Kansas City Chiefs
Week 3 Sep 26 W 14-13 at Houston Oilers
Week 4 Oct 3 L 48-17 at New England Patriots
Week 5 Oct 10 W 27-17 at San Diego Chargers
Week 6 Oct 17 W 17-10 at Denver Broncos
Week 7 Oct 24 W 18-14 vs Green Bay Packers
Week 8 Oct 31 W 19-6 vs Denver Broncos
Week 9 Nov 7 W 28-27 at Chicago Bears
Week 10 Nov 14 W 21-10 vs Kansas City Chiefs
Week 11 Nov 21 W 26-7 at Philadelphia Eagles
Week 12 Nov 28 W 49-16 vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Week 13 Dec 6 W 35-20 vs Cincinnati Bengals
Week 14 Dec 12 W 24-0 vs San Diego Chargers (OT)
Post Season
Divisional
Playoffs Dec 18 W 24-21 vs New England Patriots
Conference
Championship Dec 26 W 24-7 vs Pittsburgh Steelers
Superbowl Jan 9 W 32-14 at Minnesota Vikings at Pasadena, CA
April 16th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Ooohhhhh,
Me not very smart or quick or smart.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
1976 Oakland Raiders
* Hall of Fame
Head Coach: John Madden
To be listed, a player must have played at least one game for the team during this season.
DB Butch Atkinson
RB Pete Banaszak
RB/TE Warren Bankston
LB Rodrigo Barnes
WR * Fred Biletnikoff
LB Greg Blankenship
LB Rik Bonness
WR Morris Bradshaw
WR Cliff Branch
CB * Willie Brown
G George Buehler
TE * Dave Casper
DB Neal Colzie
C/G Dave Dalby
RB Clarence Davis
RB Carl Garrett
RB Hubert Ginn
P Ray Guy
LB Willie Hall
LB * Ted Hendricks
RB Marv Hubbard
QB David Humm
RB/WR Rick Jennings
LB Monte Johnson
RB Terry Kunz
TE Ted Kwalick
T/G Henry Lawrence
K Errol Mann
DE/DT John Matuszak
DT/DE Herb McMath
G Dan Medlin
RB Manfred Moore
DB Charlie Phillips
DE Charles Philyaw
QB Mike Rae
DB Mike Reinfeldt
LB/TE Floyd Rice
DT Dave Rowe
T/HC * Art Shell
WR Mike Siani
DT/DE Otis Sistrunk
QB Ken Stabler
K Fred Steinfort
C/G/T Steve Sylvester
DB Jack Tatum
DB Skip Thomas
G * Gene Upshaw
RB Mark van Eeghen
T John Vella
LB Phil Villapiano
6 HOF’ers
April 16th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
”Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the Saints have made informal inquiries about what it would take to acquire the Rams’ first-round pick, No. 2 overall.”
Come on Saints, go get hometown boy and leave Chris Long out there.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
frozen, that evaluation is with haynes, once the roster was set, they were nearly unbeatable and were more talented overall then the 76 team
April 16th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
You guys with regards to this complete idiot troll stalker, he comes in here to try to rip this place apart. His whole deal is he wants to pit the Davis people against the Anti Davis crowd and get us all at each others throats. When he can’t do that, he starts with racist crap or starts posting under others names to try to ruin everything. I stand and fight with the guy but then the site just turns into garbage, which he wants, and nobody else wants so I don’t engage him anymore. It;s not just me. He’s posted under Bob Marley, me, Dakota, Raider Dogg, LMN, amongst others. He can say what he wants about me, he can post as me, the one fact of all is he is a fraud, a coward and a liar. That is undisputable. I highly advise all of you don’t engage him!!!!!
April 16th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Everyone on the 76′ team contributed. This team was so deep you have guys that are notable that arent in the hall. Sistrunk, tatum, stabler,villapiano,matusak,davis van egan etc etc
April 16th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Who was the douche that use to say “don’t bother responding”?
That dude was cool!
April 16th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
dakota, 370 was exactly my point, but it is a good debate and i stand by my side of it, and oak, our D isn’t even close to the bottom, we have a good D, we have made some major improvements, and oak, in order to be involved in a shoot out, the opponent must be able to pass, that is nearly imposible against this defense
April 16th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
RAY F in GUY
April 16th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Tommy,
I’m a Laker fan. That was confusing!
April 16th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
76 Raiders 16-1, and unlike the patsies we won the SB. Ironic though our only loss that year was to the pats.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Ray Guy. Now that was an offensive weapon!
April 16th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Art Shell’s Hat.
I hate you all.
Don’t bother responding. I will not sink to your level.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
over time, perhaps do to steroids(?), the players have been bigger, stronger, faster, and better, the game has advanced over time, there was a big such difference even between 76 and 83, this advancement of the game and evolution(?) of the players is why last year’s dolphins would wipe the floor with the 73 dolphins, and a factor in why the 83 team would beat the 76 team
April 16th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
That’s the guy!
Good call. I love that guy!!
April 16th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
TT,
76′ Raiders
16-1 Won the Super bowl
6-0 against AFC west opponents
6 HOF’ers
Several other notables that should be in the Hall.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
you guys have the most interesting conversations
April 16th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
76 was great, 83 was better
April 16th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Personally I thought that 76 Raiders team was the best Raider team of all time. JMHO.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
76 team would smash the 83 team
April 16th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
90% of NFL players are on HGH. Place a MLB player next to an NFL player, and the NFL player will make the baseball player look like Fraud Boy’s mom. How long can the NFL fool everyone with its testing program? Implement the Olympics’ testing program and the NFL will disappear due to all of the suspensions.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
TT, Does this prove we arent the same person? LOL
April 16th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
what proves we arn’t the same person is i havn’t, don’t, and never will use the term”lol” except in this one explaining that i refuse to use it
April 16th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
83 was bigger, faster, stronger and better overall, 76 had more heart and leadership, but that only goes so far
April 16th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
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April 16th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Tommy T, you made a good point about how the 07 Dolphins would have beeten the 73 phins. In fact I think the 07 LSU Tigers might have beeten the 73 Dolphins.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Chris Long Interview with Ben Kesington
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April 17th, 2008 at 11:20 am
http://bigbenlivingroom.blogspot.com/
April 17th, 2008 at 11:30 am
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April 17th, 2008 at 11:49 am
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April 17th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
SFglenn is his name now
April 19th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
If Chris Long is still there we’ll get him, if not it’ll be McFadden or Dorsey
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