Raiders take Buffalo DE
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, April 27th, 2008 at 12:23 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Trevor Scott, a converted tight end from perennial Mid-American conference doormat Buffalo, was selected in the sixth round, No. 169 overall, by the Raiders.
Scott, 6-foot-5, 258 pounds, had 19 sacks in two seasons. He was not invited to the NFL scouting combine, but ran a 4.54 40-yard dash at a pro day workout.
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April 27th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
is he th efastest DE in the draft
April 27th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
TT…
you have been praying for Scott for months? well you never stated it(not here anyway), didn’t you want Robertson?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Convert to LB? Keep as DE? Has alot of potential but how to place him?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Good pick
April 27th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Sleeper pick?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Watch out AFC WEST! Or not, lol.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
sheeeeet
April 27th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Poor mans Gholston, goes all out. Good pick, good value and will def make the team. Can play DE on passing downs and OLB. Versatile player. Best pick of day 2
April 27th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!
April 27th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Typical Big Al specimen. My God he just took over this draft and there is no way to spin it otherwise.
This kid is an edge rusher supreme in the mold of Aaron Wallace and others.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
sounds like a pass rusher… would be freaking cool if he could stop the run.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Aaron Wallace, now that really makes me feel good.
NOT
April 27th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
I actually, in one mock had us taking McFadden, Shields, and Scott, but I didn’t think Shields or Scott would actually happen, and Branch was somewhat out of left field although it makes some sense, let’s hope we get Radovich and make my day…………..
April 27th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
horrible draft geez where’s our sam dt de ot and yes my grammer sucks doing this from phone
April 27th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
LMN, i’ve been preaching about this guy for a while……….
April 27th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
This draft is just bizarre as our drafts usually are. Dont get your panties in a knot just wait till they get on the field!
DMAC is going to be a WEAPON!
April 27th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
The more I read about this Scott the more I say WTF!! WTF!!WTF!!WTF!!WTF!!WTF!!WTF!!WTF!!
April 27th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
wow, this is TT’s boy, real good potential, could be a great player, could be a bust, we shall see.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
I’m curious what the undrafted FA class is going to shape up like?
I’m certain there are some O lineman and D lineman on our radar who’ll be available.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
he also has 32 pench reps and a 33.5in vertical to go with that speed and size, and with only two years at the position has a load of untapped potential
April 27th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
In Tommy´s defense he did mention him a few times before and I had to look him up as a result.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
SOMEBODY help me make sense of our last two picks! TommyT, Huff, Dakota ANYBODY!!
April 27th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Tommy Trojan, just looked at the schedule; We have no weight lifting competitions or track meets on our schedule this year. So, what kind of football player is he?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
do any of u think besides McFadden that these guys will see the field or the final roster
April 27th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
a bust? In the sixth round? We’re looking for guys like this who top measurables and solid production but lacking in elite technique due to inexperience at the position. We’ll coach him up, and he’ll be a back up anyway. So, he’s a good pick up.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
People are sleeping on Scott, you will see on the first preseason game when he comes in with the 2nd or 3rd team and is going harder than anyone else on the field
April 27th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
# Tommy Trojan Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
LMN, i’ve been preaching about this guy for a while……….
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Not here anyways! I read alway your posts and I would remember if you said anything about Trevor Scott
April 27th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
That’s all I wanted was a kid that can fill the nickle down edge rusher positin and they did that so I’m happier than before.
Go Raiders.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
#25 Kevn..Agree 100%
April 27th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
The committee, I already addressed you on this point in the last thread, stop repeating your lame little joke.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
athletic freaks of nature with a lot of potential, there were other, arguably better, route we could have taken but we’re getting good players
April 27th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Then WHY pick ‘em El Dirty! That’s caled wastin picks and we CAN’T afford to do that!!
April 27th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Kevn…25, right on.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Kiff likes guys who hustle 24/7 with motors revving.
If you dont fall on a fumble at practice, you dont play.
Ask Andrew
April 27th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Scott? He could’ve been signed as a free agent after the draft.
I made my peace with the DMAC pick because the only way we win games this year is by scoring like mad.
The rest of this draft has been an Al Davis 40 time joke.
At least this draft’s T Brayton was a late pick. Of course, Scott isn’t even in Brayton’s league…
April 27th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
I was expecting at least 2 of our running backs 2 be traded
April 27th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
PhillyRaider,
I can explain all of our second day picks:
http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/health/alzheim/brain.gif
April 27th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Not a good pick, not a sleeper pick, another retarded pick is all it is.
We are drafting Bums for our players to practice against. At least they will feel good about themselvs in practice. Prepare for another losing season guys.Today was critical for us and we blew it big time. BOttom of the west again I think, which sucks because we just needed a couple things, things which we ignored completely. Baring a Jue 1st miracle were screwed for next season
April 27th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
With their 6th round pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, The Oakland Raiders selected University of Buffalo DE Trevor Scott.
Trevor Scott
Height: 6′5″
Weight: 256
College: Buffalo
Conference: Mid-American
Hometown: Postdam, NY
High School: Postdam
2007: In his second year as a defensive end, recorded 10 quarterback sacks. His 15 tackles for losses in 2007 tied Craig Guest (1995) and Duane Williams (2000) for seventh on the school record list…His 10 sacks in 2007 are the most by a Bulls defender since the team joined the NCAA Division 1-A ranks in 1999 and rank fourth overall, topped only by Vince Canosa (12.5 in 1993), Dan Leo (11 in 1986) and Tim Teicher (10.5 in 1987).
2006: Started all 12 games at defensive end…in only his first year playing the position, he led the Bulls with nine sacks on the season and also recorded 45 total tackles…the nine sacks tied for the most by a UB player in the Division I-A era (since 1999)…he earned the 2006 ‘U Believe’ award as the team’s best defensive lineman….also had a team-best 13.5 tackles for loss…recorded two sacks at Northern Illinois (9/16)…registered 1.5 sacks and recovered a fumble against Miami (OH) (10/15)…had two sacks and three quarterback hurries against Kent State (11/4)…earned two sacks and blocked a kick at Wisconsin (11/18)…recorded a season-high eight tackles against Central Michigan (11/14).
2005: Played in seven games as a reserve tight end…had eight catches for 55 yards on the season…had a career-best six catches for 42 yards, including a season-high 21-yarder at Western Michigan (10/1)…had a catch for six yards at Syracuse (9/10) and a catch for seven yards at Toledo…also had a pair of special teams tackles.
2004: Played in UB’s last 10 games, highlighted by a 42-yard catch during the Bulls’ win over Central Michigan (11/13)…saw action in three of the four games in which UB compiled 200-plus rushing yards – versus Central Florida (10/2), at Marshall (10/23) and against Central Michigan…recorded two tackles against Kent State (11/6), Central Michigan and at Connecticut (11/20).
2003: Redshirted in his first season at Buffalo.
HIGH SCHOOL: Twice an All-Northern selection at Potsdam HS for coach Jimmy Kirka while playing tight end and outside linebacker…earned two letters and was twice a captain…was team MVP as both a junior and senior and was a Watertown Daily Times first-team selection …also earned four letters in track and field and two in basketball…greatest athletic experience was catching the game-winning touchdown and two-point conversion in the final :30 of a high school game to win by a point.
PERSONAL: Sociology major who hopes to enter law enforcement when his playing days end … Son of Leah and Mike O’Leary … Born Trevor John Scott on 8/30/84 … Resides in Potsdam, New York.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
BHP
You were pretty upset one hour ago?
Did AI hook you up with some norcos?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Considering the biggest area where we have been hurting is depth across the board, the picks have all been very good.
Branch makes up for losing Carr & Washington
Scott should make a solid backup DE while learning from Burgess
We have to assume Al and the scouting department completely knows these players we’ve never seen.
Seriously how many people here in this blog have seen Branch, Shields, and Scott play?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
He was widely considered a 5th round prospect because of his lack of experience and his lack of elite competition, but he is the 2nd best athlete of any DE in this draft and he has an unstoppable motor…….just a relentless beast……
April 27th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Haaaa, Jeff Fisher just said they havent picked a WR because they have Mike Williams on their roster.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Thank Dakota. That sums it all up. Now excuse while I run some bath water and apply pressure to my wrists with a sharp instrument!
April 27th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
i have to admit…
this year’s draft is very confusing…
very different from last year…
April 27th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Kevn, you mean the joke about how we don’t have a track meet on our schedule this year, or a weight lifting competition? That’s no joke. It’s a spot on commentary of your blind optimism.
And, I also responded to your gripe in the previous thread. I’ll do it here, too. Bench press, 40 times, and measures of agility are only a concern if they are poor or unacceptable. As long as they’re up to par, it’s all about what kind of football player they are. Being optimistic in a mediocre player solely for his speed, strength, and agility is just moronic.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
I know it wont happen, but it could be sweet if they transformed him to MLB, He is tall and he has good hands, split the lawfirm let Morrison and Howard cover the outside and let Scott fill up the middle. Sound like he is a sure tackler behind LOS
April 27th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Speaking of AI, whatever happened to beach?
Did he and that dude ever hook up to surf & smoke
April 27th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
I saw branch play in a few Big East games throughout his career against various teams but havn’t scouted him, the other two I saw more games of and really looked at them……
April 27th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Don’t worry Pete, we can still nail, I mean grab, I mean draft Maria Sharapova in round 7.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
The only one I see seeing the field on Day 2 is Branch in Special Teams.
Shields, questionable as he might be, provided depth to a formidable yet injury prone and riddled WR corp. He will develop with JLH under the tutelage of James Lofton and might see playing time towards end of year given no injuries to walker, carter or curry.
Scott is a project that will probably red shirt first year determining were he is suited best…probably a situational pass rusher in a 3-4 and depth at DE in a 4-3.
All IMO…Think Branch will provide the most results with disgusting hits as a Gunner and possibly take some into paydirt on the Return Game.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I don’t think the Tyler Brayton comment was accurate. Brayton was an experienced DE who was never a great pass rusher even in college. This guy is a very inexperience DE who is a beast pass rushing at least at lower level compitition.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I agree a bunch of bums and these are wasted picks DE has upside but man we put all the knee’s together and might get a good one
April 27th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
FLPete…
you’re right! but I think you have to combine last years draft with this one – perhaps we should divide them =)
April 27th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Jeff Fisher needs to fix his stache, whos trimming that thing helen keller ? good gawd
April 27th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Im sorry i have to repost this due to its sheer ridiculousness:
Haaaa, Jeff Fisher just said they havent picked a WR because they have Mike Williams on their roster.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Sharapova = Secret Weapon
April 27th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
The Committee – I’m sure you’re disappointed with not having an OL or DT taken yet but you have to understand the depth of this class in those positions. Some of the best Centers are still available, King Dunlap and Tyler Polumbus (great OT’s) still there, and Athyba Rubin and Kellen Dykes (great DT’s) still on the board. Not to mention the LB’s and WR’s still available. I would not be upset at all if we got back into this round and next with a few more picks to pick up any of these guys. Nevertheless, this draft is deep with “football” players and not just athletes and the UDFA class will be solid. I know Al goes for the Athlete first and “football” player second but the “football” players will still be around in the 7th. Here’s to Al taking an out-of-character risk on someone that doesn’t run a blazing 40.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Sharapova is passé, the new girl on the block is Caroline Wozsniacki
April 27th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
For all the glass half empty Raider Nation – It could be worst.
oliverthizz Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Haaaa, Jeff Fisher just said they havent picked a WR because they have Mike Williams on their roster.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
People will change their minds about Scott come pre-season
April 27th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
scott will end up being burgess’ long term replacement and the current replacement for clemons
April 27th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
60. Exactly, if you are banking on Mike Williams to be your step up WR, you are disillusioned and in very big trouble.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Yeah, I am sure Scott will dominate during camp, going against our o-line, lol. He is a lock to make the team!
April 27th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
El Dirty:
LMAO on the “knees” comment!
April 27th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Measurables are not meaningless, that’s all I was saying. And, no one here wants to pick up work out warriors with no potential to be quality football players, but elite athletes are still wanted. And, because Scott is uniquely athletic, it’s worth noting without being attacked as some sort of misguided simpleton. Sorry for calling your joke lame, but it WAS at my expense.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Branch will only be able to help us if he returns one for a TD, on just about every return.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Maaaan I hope we will get Steven Justice and Andre Woodson as undrafted
April 27th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
These are guy’s you get to coach them up and make NFL players out of them, don’t prejudge. Guy’s like this make very good players if their coached properly. Jason Taylor was a 5thrnd pick and very raw but he worked hard and listened to vets and now he’s on his way to the HOF. You never know it’s not where you get them, just get them.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Scott will dominate practices, just like “Rudy” Ruettiger did. He’ll play hard with a lot of heart, but he just isn’t meant to play at this level.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Keven, as long as a player’s speed, strength, and/or agility are up to par, statistics pertaining to them are absolutely, positively, 100% meaningless.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Another classic Al Davis friggin’ draft. Well, Lane Kiffin, my boy, get your resume ready for when this trash sinks under the weight of a bottom tier finish in terms of opponents avg. gain per rush and the lack of protection for THE FRANCHISE, Big Al will blame you, not himself. Good grief…..
April 27th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Comparing Scott to Rudy does not make any sense. If Rudy had the physical attributes of Scott, he would be in the NFL.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
What a waste of a sunday.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
scott will be a steal……
just 42 picks until we pick again and robertonson is STILL on the board WOW!!!
April 27th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
In fact, Kevn, such statistics are usually brought up to mask a player’s mediocrity. Usually the agents are woofing that nonsense. It’s pimp-speak. GM’s know better. The problem is, we don’t have one. We have an owner who picks players based on this meaningless statistics.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
LMN
That approach has merit. He’s got size, mobility, hands and tackling ability. Stature-wise, kind of reminds me of a big old lanky LB know affectionately as the “Stork” (i.e. Ted Hendricks).
April 27th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I want to see Kif’s day 2 press confrence
April 27th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!
April 27th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Yep Mike J.,
Unless something changes (like signing some aging vets on D) Kiffin’s job is in Turd’s hands. He better return to his 2006 form or Kiffin is gone.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 256 | 40-Time: 4.54
Strengths:
Has a large frame with room to get bigger…Real good athlete with above average speed…Aggressive with a non-stop motor…Very quick off the edge…Hard worker with terrific intangibles…A real beast in the weight room…Has some special teams potential…Offers some versatility…Very productive….Still has quite a bit of upside.
Notes:
Was a backup tight end the first two years of his college career and finished with 9 receptions for 97 yards…Could also project to outside linebacker or tight end at the next level…An extremely intriguing developmental prospect who will likely be a project but certainly has some tools to work with…Best fit may be as a 3-4 OLB
April 27th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
A lot of Raider fans coming here to express their frustrations at the draft. But they’re probably all MaddenRaider, right Oakglenn?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Guaranteed we pick up BPA ZBS OL with our Last Pick…GUARANTEED.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Doh! I liked Spencer Larsen at the Combine
April 27th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Anybody who knocked Ellis or Ghoulston because of their level of competition and talks up Scott is an Al Davis shrill.
Grabbing a KR to replace Carr is fine if you don’t have glaring needs at so many other spots.
“Let’s see how they do…” We’ve been seeing. Since Al got back involved instead of suing people, this team has stank.
Before Kiffin we drafted Asomough, Howard, Morrison and Kelly. Four starters in five years that are worth anything.
Last year Kiffin adds Russell, Miller, M Bush, ONeal and Richardson. Five potential starters in ONE YEAR! Now Al’s back in charge and we draft one guy who upgrades our deepest position.
Please go sue someone Al and leave the team alone.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
I wish I could just see an original thought from the haters instead of the cliche’s …
“Typical Al …. yadayadayda..!”
Again I challenge one of you haters to name a player we should’ve taken instead of Branch or Scott?
Shields might be a reach, but a late 4th rnd pick does not make you draft suck!
One player!!!! And let’s debate them over these guys instead of Al bashing.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
LOL, Coach on Wheels; post 85, last line…
April 27th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
i feel disappointed and worried about today. tommy trojan: where are these o-linemen you said would be available on day 2? dakota: are we planning to help the o-line needed to make mcf successful through free agency? am i supposed to just relax and assume cable will make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear? does anyone understand what we’re doing today?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Why are you people complaining over 6th round draft picks? Most 6th round picks never make anyones rosters. They are looking for a “diamond in the rough.”
April 27th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Jhill,
How about Andre Fluellen?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
let’s trade all of our RB’s for a 7th
April 27th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
LOL That’s it! Trevor Scott = Ted Hendricks! When did they set up internet access at the Al Davis Home For the Delusional?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
JB…
I like Howard and Morrison, but I think the lacks something to be in the middle, I think they would be best on the outside…. Well I think this way because I like Robert Thomas, but as a great backup, and Sam Williams, yeah he can be ST player =)
April 27th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
JHill, the reason why people bash Al is because he’s more to blame than anyone else. Believe me, if we found it was Amy Trask doing our drafting, or the man on the moon, we’d bash them. We’re fans who want to see this team win, and we’re calling out the owner who’s simply not letting hit happen with his foolish decision making.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
90, fluellen is gone
April 27th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Kalimba Edwards was suppose to take over Chris Clemmons spot (3rd down pass rusher) Do you guys think with the drafting of Trevor Scott that they may want to use him @ the OLB spot to compete with Robert Thomas and Sam Williams
April 27th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
colt brennan to skins……….that’s interesting
April 27th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
The Committee, your opinion has been noted, I’ll hope you’ll be gracious enough to refrain from gratuitously harping about it when some of here DO discuss measurables. Because, we CAN express our “opinions” without completely dismissing other people’s points of view in such an obnoxious and rude way. Oh, and measurables are things we use to predict if someone WILL BE a good player. I agree it’s possible for someone to be a solid player without having remarkable stats, but come on…
April 27th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Somebody did not compare Scott to Hendrix…
April 27th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
COW…
Post 47
April 27th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Red Bryant, Frank Okam, Dre Moore…
April 27th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Hendricks, I meant. Big difference in spelling, I guess.
But point stands. Some kool aid drinking maniac in here did not compare Scott to Ted Hendricks…
April 27th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Personally, I agree with The Committe, today was BS.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Rhodes back to Indy for 3 of their rd6 picks?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Lets say Campbell got hurt, having Moss, and now Thomas, Kelly, Cooley, and even Fred Davis, Colt Brennan would be able to succeed because his accuracy is ridiculous.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Keven, request denied. I will dutifully make fun of anyone in here trying to rationalize mediocre football players with their bench press and sprint times.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
What up with the recievers from hawaii?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
#98….Right on the mark
April 27th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Chris Clemons came in handy because Burgess was recovering from Hernia surgery. I think Kalmiba Edwards is more effective in more scenarios than Clemmons ever was. IMO, Scott was drafted for his potential down the road, not so much with the idea that he’ll significantly contribute right away. But, hey, Richardson was a 5th rnd selection and he played well.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
SCOTT = BRAYTON
April 27th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Tex,
Like I said, players we could have taken INSTEAD of the guys we took.
We didn’t have a 3rd rd pick.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
DoeDoe…
as i said in post #47 I hope he will be our MLB
April 27th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
NO I RESPONDED TO SOMEONE WHO COMPARED THEM!
April 27th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
First of all it shouldn’t be “The Committee” ala MR, ala whoever this a**hole is posting as today. I think you should be committed! Get lost dude. You are not a fan. To the Raider faithful, trust Al and the coaches. Kiffen said thier board was set up much different than most people thought. I think we cherry picked players we thought would be available based on measurables and attitude. I also think there are going to be a lot of undrated linemen that we’ll sign that will have a real shot at making the team for depth. Barring injuries, we’re going to be vastly improved in all 3 areas and with a cupcake of a schedule???
April 27th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Man, all the Hawaii WRs are on the board and could go undrafted.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
My bad. I see that now. Dallas Morning News still shows him available. These guys need to wake up.
Anyway, the point is, they should have taken a project DT – maybe Ahtya Rubin – and not a project edge rusher. Draft for what you need in these rounds.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Ok …Committee…You’re the Gm….Who do You Pick in those spots?
April 27th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Oh, Coach, I know it wasn’t YOU who made the comparison. I was agreeing with you.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
The committe, fair enough, I guess. Just know that makes you, in every objective sense, a complete dick.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I feel like I just walked in on a PMS support group with everybody b*tching at once!
Pathetic. Nice fan base. All you people do is b*tch and moan about everything, at least until the very player you complained about becomes a star then it’s all about who can pat themselves on the back first. Nevermind that you complained about it because you didn’t understand at the time, no that wasn’t you, it was someone else posting under your name right?
Like I said PATHETIC!
Jerry your once informative blog has now become a “Know it all b*tch fest”.
Have a heart and kill this blog. Put it out of it’s pathetic, whining misery for it’s own good. It has become a microcosm of everything that is wrong about society. No sense of loyalty, tradition, accountability or reality.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
# Long Time Reader, 1st time poster Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
First of all it shouldn’t be “The Committee” ala MR, ala whoever this a**hole is posting as today. I think you should be committed! Get lost dude. You are not a fan. To the Raider faithful, trust Al and the coaches. Kiffen said thier board was set up much different than most people thought. I think we cherry picked players we thought would be available based on measurables and attitude. I also think there are going to be a lot of undrated linemen that we’ll sign that will have a real shot at making the team for depth. Barring injuries, we’re going to be vastly improved in all 3 areas and with a cupcake of a schedule???
………..
Oakglenn, take your meds.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Dakota,
Sands is the answer to all of those guys. Didn’t you listen to your boy Kiffin? Warren and Joseph will be the backups with your other boy GJ (or someone like him) likely coming in as well.
AND …
If Sands is not the answer, which he would certainly get all year to prove, we have next year’s #1 or #2 we can spend on a NT.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Long Time Reader, 1st time poster = Oakglenn
You must think people are really stupid not to recognize you Oakglenn. Or maybe your the stupid one…
April 27th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Thank you, Kevn. My father always said it’s better to be a dick, than a p**sy.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Great draft! I love what we did, starting with McFadden. Im curious about Sheilds, hope he not like a Johnny Morant or Carlos Francis type pick. Love the Branch pick now that Washingtoon is gone. He’s good insurance in case Bowie just sucks and doesn’t mkae the team. Love that we improved out Special teams..very important.
We will look back at this years off-season and clearly point to it as being the turn around for this Raider franchise. We have drastically improved our team. I am very excited about this coming season.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
so WR Shields is a medium fast WR that is known more for yards after catch. Similar to Brandon Marshall or the Packer’s WRs.
CB Branch is the fastest CB in this draft and should replace CB Carr in the kick return and as a CB. He’s similar to Chris Car
DE Scott is a raw prospect that is fast and strong, but not strong enough to take on big blockers head on. though he has a highmotor. He’s a poor man’s vernon gholston.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
we should draft woodson
April 27th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
I think everybody here is fiercely loyal to this team. That’s why they are not thrilled about this draft. Being the extremely loyal fans they are, they are dreading the prospects of living through several more years of misery with insane contracts to injured players, logic-defying offseason acquisitions, and highly suspect draft picking (other than McFadden).
April 27th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
LOL. Thank you, 123. But I knew it all along. Oak’s emotional writing style is recognizable from outer space.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
let’s hope we can get Tommy Blake or mabe Adarius Bowman in the 7th
April 27th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
these later rounds are not just a joke. old fans will remember raider 1980 superbowl MVP rod martin was a 12th round draft choice!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
woodson would be a nice backup, and he would push JRUSS
April 27th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
we need backup qb
April 27th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
# WTF? Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I feel like I just walked in on a PMS support group with everybody b*tching at once!
Pathetic. Nice fan base. All you people do is b*tch and moan about everything, at least until the very player you complained about becomes a star then it’s all about who can pat themselves on the back first. Nevermind that you complained about it because you didn’t understand at the time, no that wasn’t you, it was someone else posting under your name right?
Like I said PATHETIC!
Jerry your once informative blog has now become a “Know it all b*tch fest”.
Have a heart and kill this blog. Put it out of it’s pathetic, whining misery for it’s own good. It has become a microcosm of everything that is wrong about society. No sense of loyalty, tradition, accountability or reality.
…………
Oakglenn, take your meds.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Raiding Texas -
yes and it’s the very same people that b*tched and moaned when the Raiders drafted Nnamdi.
Get it yet?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
I am not Oakglenn numbskull.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
dont like our picks
April 27th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
The reason we SHOULD complain is that predraft it was “Draft DMAC and then fix the lines.” Now that the draft is here it is, “Oh well, 6th and 7th rounders don’t play anyway so it’s no biggie.”
Bull
It is one or the other.
Draft DMAC and draft potential starters with trades and later picks. Now they didn’t do that and everyone is fine with it.
Make up your minds. Did Al blow it by passing on D-line help in round 1 or did Al blow it by passing on D-line help in rds 4-6? PICK ONE. Otherwise you’re just having man-love for Al and you opinion is too tainted to inform.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
# WTF? Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
I am not Oakglenn numbskull.
….
Oakglenn, you’ll never be able to disguise yourself. And, I’m not the only one who called it.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Tex,
Never doubted the loyalty. It’s just funny how this formula works:
I have no idea who a person is = bust
or
not the guy I wanted = Typical Al Davis bad pick.
Nevermind that the people who get PAID to make these evaluations think otherwise. Nevermind that at all.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
WR Adarius Bowman, once a 1st round prospect, is still there!!!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
There went Rubin. Didn’t I just say we should have taken him? This guy terrorized my Texas Tech Red Raiders, which has an NFL-sized offensive line. This guy will turn out to be a stellar pick at this level. Mark this post for future reference.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
From the way this draft is going off season transactions are not over yet
April 27th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
I haven’t stated my opinion regarding the draft one way or the other. I’m just letting you all know how you are perceived.
A bunch of whining little babies that think they know everything. Only to be completely wrong and never be accountable.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Mods, can we do something about the negativity in here, and start deleting some of these posts that have nothing but negative things to say?
This is supposed to be a blog for real fans!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Trust me folks. I am not Oakglen. As a fan I’m just sick of this guy. This is a fan site. Where’s the support for the team. Go root for somebody you like.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
How did we both post at the same time?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
I have a right to complain im a die hard raider fan whos tired of numdskull moves>>>>
April 27th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
The Committee Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
# WTF? Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
I am not Oakglenn numbskull.
….
Oakglenn, you’ll never be able to disguise yourself. And, I’m not the only one who called it.”
Ignorance is bliss and you are completely blissed out. Believe what you will but I am not your gay lover Oakglenn. I am far from it. I have no time for your childish games that you two seem to enjoy a little too much.
But like I said enjoy your bliss, it’s your life’s blood.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
COW,
Ignoring STs is not wise. We got a potential starter there in Branch, as well as depth at S, another need.
We addressed Dline with Scott.
We still have another pick for D or Oline.
What’s the problem.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
I love how all these people just keep bitching and questioning all the scouts just because were not going for the big name guys from big schools. (Shields over Hawkins). I’m sure the organization was aware that Hawkins was on the board and I trust they have good reason to pick Shields over him even though he went to Richmond, not Cal. And read the Branch interview, he loves playing special teams, thats great to have, Kiffin would always criticize our ST last year. Trevor Scott? Potential looks unreal. And we won’t be able to draft a DT day 2 that would start over Sands or Warren at NT.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Oakglen if we deleted everything negative we wouldn’t even be able to post the game results. Oh that’s right, the Raiders are a wining team with loads of talent and a perfect draft record.
Real fans don’t kiss a$$. Real fans want to win and hold the losing organization accountable.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
“# Coach on Wheels Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
The reason we SHOULD complain is that predraft it was “Draft DMAC and then fix the lines.” Now that the draft is here it is, “Oh well, 6th and 7th rounders don’t play anyway so it’s no biggie.”
Bull
It is one or the other.
Draft DMAC and draft potential starters with trades and later picks. Now they didn’t do that and everyone is fine with it.
Make up your minds. Did Al blow it by passing on D-line help in round 1 or did Al blow it by passing on D-line help in rds 4-6? PICK ONE. Otherwise you’re just having man-love for Al and you opinion is too tainted to inform.”
Well-stated, Coach on Wheels.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
The things I tried to talk about an hour ago is suddenly a subject…
but I try again, Andre Woodson and Steven Justice would great pickups as undrafted FA
April 27th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
I’m generally OK with the picks other than Scott. There were much better “projects” available. My biggest gripe about this draft was giving away a pick to move up four spots to take Branch. He may turn out to be a great player. But how do you make sense of that move when you’re already very short on picks? You can’t.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
deezo Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
I have a right to complain im a die hard raider fan whos tired of numdskull moves>>>>”
Like drafting Nnamdi? Maybe you just don’t understand. Is that a possibility? Did you understand the Nnamdi pick at the time or did you b*tch? You b*tched just like every other “know it all” that complained about one of the best cover corners in the league. Nice insight.
Please continue to complain about things that you don’t understand. That is your choice in life. Some learn now and some learn later. You choose later.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
We addressed Dline with Scott.
That’s the problem.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Oakglenn: i am worried about what i see going on today because i have loved the raiders for decades and don’t see us fixing our lines, esp. the o-line. who’s going to make mcf a sucess? that doesn’t make me a “bitcher”. that makes me a caring fan!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
We will find out if Coach Kif did all the picking in this years draft once he does his press confrence – Yesterday he was all giddy when he was talking about D-Mac – If in fact Kif was the guy calling the shots as he was last year than I have full confidence in this years draft – If he didn’t and Al was calling the shots than I will be weary – Like JHill said – Just because we didn’t draft they player you didn’t like dont knock it – Let the pros do there Job – Lets try and see him light in are picks instead of bashing everyone
April 27th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
robertson is still available hope we can get him he is a beast in DE
April 27th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
“Oakglen if we deleted everything negative we wouldn’t even be able to post the game results. Oh that’s right, the Raiders are a wining team with loads of talent and a perfect draft record.
Real fans don’t kiss a$$. Real fans want to win and hold the losing organization accountable.”
Wow Coach on Wheels has defined what a “real fan” is. Nice work. Pompass dick.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
I think it’s hilarious lookin at all of these armchair GM’s talking as if they are experts. I guess all of you know more than Knapp, Cable, Rathman, and Kiffin about who’s capable to start effectively on our roster right? Gimme a break.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Amen Raiders2
April 27th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Amen Kush
April 27th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I like Nnamdi but we still are losers.However i do like the direction of the team.But we really did not need Mcfadden…
April 27th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Amen DoeDoe, what it do
April 27th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
We blew it! Washington drafted COLT BRENNAN. So much for an incredible JR backup.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
“I guess all of you know more than Knapp, Cable, Rathman, and Kiffin about who’s capable to start effectively on our roster right?”
You act as if those people have any say in the matter. LOL!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Prediction: next pick will be a CB.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
deezo Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
“I like Nnamdi but we still are losers.However i do like the direction of the team.But we really did not need Mcfadden…”
Only a loser would type such a sentence.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Guess which positions have more players than OT or OG or DT or DE… Corner backs and running backs. This draft has become a joke based on Al’s infactuation for size and speed. I hope we become a wrestling or weight lifting or track franchise rather than a NFL franchise.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
The thing thats funny to me is you guys coming in hear complaining about guys complaning. Last I checked this is a blog, a place to voice our opinions good or bad.
5th ammendment gives us rights to free speech. I read most of the comments here seems to me like a bunch of passionate raider fans.
We can agree to disagree. But dont try to come in here and censor people from speaking their mind.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Well whatever happens we have to live with it..LETS GO RAIDERS…..
April 27th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Raiders2, your post earlier was the truth. WTF? I definitely feel where you’re coming from too. The Raiders have definitely improved their roster this year. And with everybody reporting to camp on time and healthy, we WILL be a much improved team this year. Period.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
WTF – I RESPONDED to the non-stop “If you say anything negative you’re not a real fan.” garbage.
Funny, I didn’t see you responding to those “pompass dicks”.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Right on, Thec!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
LOL..WTF
April 27th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
we should still add robertson or tommy blake
April 27th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
#96 DoeDoe you’re pretty much right on Scott has that ability OLB/DE with his speed he should be able to cover in space as well as comeoff the edge I like the pick and where we got him good value.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Since there appears to be concerns about negative posts, let me put out something positive: the Raiders will win at least ONE game next year. How ’bout that? LOL.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
There’s that formula again …
I don’t know anything about Scott = bust!
Laughs I say, just laughs!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
I hope a big LT or RT, or NT for our 7th round pick
April 27th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Russell to DE Bush to QB McFadden to WR and we will be fine
April 27th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
8-8 OR 9-7 WERE COMING BABY……
April 27th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Thec Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
We can agree to disagree. But dont try to come in here and censor people from speaking their mind.
Thec -
I’m not censoring anyone, just calling it like I see it. A bunch of Know It All whiners that don’t stop, even when proven wrong.
You can stop trying to censor ME now by telling me how to be. I have a 5th ammendment right to speak my mind.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Otherwise I think we need Kicker incase Jano drops few eggs
April 27th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Right on Thec!!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
we should still grab blake or robertson, you can never have enough good pass rushers
April 27th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
RaidingTexas- Are you in the draft room right now? I’m sure there’s more than just Al Davis sitting there with his own personal list of players by himself picking people. Knapp Cable Rathman etc., have their input guaranteed, they dont have the final say, but their input is heard.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
C.O.W. -
I can be a pompass dick myself. I apologize for singling you out. My problems are with the majority of the know it alls in here, not just you.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
pompous or Pompass?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
thec, you’ve got your ammendments mixed up but the message is right on point
April 27th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
I think we should go O line.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
RaidingTexas, you obviously haven’t read any of the Q & A interviews from several of our new acquisitions about the conversations, film study, and overall involvement that several of our coaches have had in the entire process. These definitely were not arbitrary picks with no involvement from the coaching staff.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
am i the only one who’s actually happy with this draft so far?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
reality is rarely recognized in this haven for the “know it all, never wrong fan”
April 27th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
RAIDERES RULE
April 27th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Best available talent should n’t be measured by the 40 speed but by potential
April 27th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Thec #172
The 1st Ammendment my friend is about freedom of speech. The 5th gives you the right to mot incriminate yourself. Come to think of it, the way some responders are acting they should take the fifth.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Giants choose….Andre Woodson?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
RAIDERS
April 27th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
dude we are all loyal we complain for a reason I don’t think u liked our record being posted on BSPN over and over again the draft is important and we are laying an assumed egg I love my raiders its like my kid even when he messes up I’m still there so ssshh
April 27th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Andre Woodson gets picked in the same spot as Tom Brady. A sign?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
I think Branch will change minds during preseason. I think we may have gotten one in this kid. Our return teams were atrocious last year if he changes that he’s worth it. I’m all for it. That is as big a part of offense as anything. If he can give us a short field that’s HUGE.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
jhill
That formula is a cop out. I didn’t know alot about Richardson last year but he was a need pick who had a scouting report and OSU pedigree that made him a sensible pick at #5.
Scott is an undrafted free agent. Why waste a pick on that. PLUS the biggest problem isn’t Scott alone. It is that Scott is the only player drafted to shre up the WORSE RUN DEFENSE and he ISN’T A RUN STOPPER.
How about this formula? Don’t agree with someone = take pot shots at them instead of poviding justification.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
TT I’m happy, people don’t really understand what are true needs are after the FA period, they just think they know more than the professionals.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
My bad 1st amendment proved i and WTF arent lawyers.
So I should plead the 5th now so it wont incriminate me.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Thec
Just pointing out the contradiction in your preachy post before. You told me “dont try to come in here and censor people from speaking their mind” just after you said “5th ammendment gives us rights to free speech. I read most of the comments here seems to me like a bunch of passionate raider fans.”
So everyone else can say what they want but I can’t? Sounds pretty hypocritical to me.
My profession has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
WHO’S GOING TO RUN-BLOCK AND SAVE RUSSEL’S LIFE? DOES ANYONE CARE?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Bo Ruud is he related to TB’s LB Ruud?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Preach on Raiders2
April 27th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Reply to post #140: I think you’ve said it best…
As for Scott – I know him personally, and regardless of what school he played for, or how long he played DE, he WILL give 110% to the Raiders. He is willing and able to learn the technique and already posesses the physicality, making him extremely coachable.
Let’s reserve judgement until you see what he can do.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Tommy I’m not happy but hopeful. I think Branch, McFadden, and Scott will be players, Shields nah!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
That’s cool WTF – I don’t deny being a pompus ass – just don’t want to be the only one!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Woodson would have been a good quaility back up QB.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
“How about this formula? Don’t agree with someone = take pot shots at them instead of poviding justification.”
C.O.W. -
I’m beginning to like you…
April 27th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
TT
Im pretty pleased. Would have taken Red Bryant with the pick that we used on Branch but am excited about Arman a lot, he looks like he could make the step up better than a lot of the 2nd round WR’s. Scott is a chance but u need to take a chance in the 6th because rarely do u get a gem. He could be worthwhile. Overall its been a pretty good second day
April 27th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
jhill are you kidding me there are at least 10 players i would have rather seen drafted instead of branch (though he will help somewhat), red bryant, adibi, bell, just to name a few.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
I think it’s hilarious that when Kiffin and our new players weren’t holding press conferences and speaking out, people were getting their panties all in a bunch.
Now that Hall, Harris, Kiffin, Mcfadden, and several others have spoken out about what’s going on, how the media exaggerates everything, and discussed how many different people are actually involved in the draft process, you still have people saying, “Oh you can’t believe what they say. Their interviews are scripted and they’re told what to say.”
It’s pathetic.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
My thing is this, we only had 5 picks. We didnt have much to work with. The idea should have been to make the most of those picks. Can anyone say that we have actually done that?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
you all will be happy to know I am now leaving, so go back to never having to be accountable.
Don’t worry, I will be back…
April 27th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
The Dude…
red bryant in the 4th? that would be a reach
April 27th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
How about everyone post what they would have done, knowing how all the picks before our picks went and knowing what was on the board. Post what you would have done instead.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
WTF?
I dont get your agenda, you sound pretty confused
April 27th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
BHP, I don’t think people are down on Branch per se but rather his being picked when there appear to be bigger needs. I hope he does well but can he: play defensive tackle and stop the run, play left tackle ala Walter Jones and keep JR off his butt, or play WR, catch the ball, and help spread the field to help JR and the running game? Or, can he solve the current recession? Inquiring minds want to know…..
April 27th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
This is a blog. I dont agree with some of the attitudes here as some of these bloggers think they are GOD and try to hammer guys that are just offering opinions. Thats what this place is a basket of opinions, observations, comments, concerns
etc etc etc…..
What i do see past all of that and we are all members of the NATION, and we are all passionate fans. Its sunday a nice day and we are on the computer talking football……..RAIDER Football.
We can agree to disagree but at the end of the day we love our team and hope, pray, beg, that they win.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
#217 Sheilds will be an explosive slot reciever that goes over the middle and makes the big catch. His speed, athletisism and strength puts the secondary coverage in deep sheet.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
here’s to free agency again NEED LINEMEN
April 27th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Draft grades?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
dammit! eagles just keep on filling their line with great people
April 27th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
…is al DEAD yet?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
COW,
Ridiculous formula. I, among others, have been doing nothing but giving you justification, and ASKING for the guy you wanted instead.
Let’s try it again …
Branch – great pick! STs guy that replaces Chris Johnson as a gunner and Chris Carr as a return guy. Clearly a need, can we agree on that?
Shields – WTF? May have been a reach, but can we at least wait and see? Some folks were calling for a WR in the 1st or 2nd rd. But I understand the concern here.
Scott – Based upon Kelly and Sands being locked in as starters, and Warren and Joseph being solid BUs, DE was more of a need. Didn’t everyone want C Long or Gholston? I don’t know much about him, but from what been provided on this blog as far as reports on the guy sound promising. What’s wrong with having an open mind on the guy? And it’s the 6th round anyway, why not swing for the fences?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Raider2 -
Why blog if you just want to leave it to the professionals? We’re here to give opinions. I defend Al when it seems appropo and call it when it looks like he screwed up.
Speaking of which -
2) The professionals brought us five horrible seasons in a row so pardon me if I don’t assume they know everything.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
D-Mac interview on BSPN
April 27th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
LMN bryant went in the fourth. he is one of, if not the best NT in this draft. after a couple of years people will be saying he was the steal of the 4th rd.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
DMAC on TV yes…….
April 27th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
In terms of talent, C+. In terms of addressing need, F
April 27th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
TT…
how many pick to go before its our turn again?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Ill change that to B-
April 27th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Uhmmm, Thec….you mean 1st Amend….
Taking the 5th is a right not to incriminate yourself in court…
To that end, Al Davis is a shriveled up, bony, bucktooth mummy who enjoys rubbing himself while reading Jhill self indulged posts…
April 27th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Northphillyraider…
yeah I noticed my mistake just as i posted the last post…. i had bryant confused with robertson, my bad =)
April 27th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Meanwhile, back at the ranch: Suns up by 18 in the 2nd Qtr…..
April 27th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
LMN,
21
April 27th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Oliverthizz,
Three things I would change:
Not trade from #104 to #100, thus losing the #213 pick.
Take Akhtya Rubin at #169.
Then use one of your two 7th rounders on Trevor Scott. Less risk.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Cris carter just said it Thunder/Lighting hahahahahaha
April 27th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Mike J not to disagre but we’re not the pros.
The coaches know what we have and if they needed more help at DT we think they do but maybe they feel differently or there is no way we pass on Dorsey. Who knows we’ll have to wait and see.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Mike Hart of Michigan to Indianapolis. Good pick.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
why should we little fans have the audacity to question the raider decisions today? after all: they know what they’re doing! their sterling record and draft picks of sheer genius the last few years speak for themselves!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Jeffri Chadia that BAld F@<k is an idiot.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Man, ESPN is rare form today.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Muhahhahahhaaha
Pierre Garcon….what a name, it sounds like a disney name for a waiter in a disney cartoon.
“‘Allo ‘Allo monsieur Carcon”
April 27th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
COW we’re just discussing it we can say what we nt BUT we don’t know better tahn they do. Plain and simple we’re a bunch of fans taking our best guess and nothing more.
Kiffin, Big AL, the coaches know what they need.
Sure I get pissed too I would’ve done this totally different, but I’m not at the facility everyday they are.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
WOW Jeff Chadiha just cut us to pieces on BSPN!! Azzhole!!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Michael Smith the only one somewhat defending the Raiders.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
jhill – Said it before. No problem with DMAC or Branch as players but you don’t address any of your needs so you can get a fast KR? Not only that you give up a pick to move up.
I’ll tell you how I’d do better.
Wait for Branch and draft TWO Scott’s in the late rounds if you think he’s got potential.
Swing for the fence – twice! That little bit would’ve been better.
Didn’t we draft a speedy WR in the 3rd last year to replace Carr?
Funny, our best KR in years (Carr) was an undrafted FA. How many undrafted FA OL and DL have we started in the last ten years?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Bald f@<Ker
April 27th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
What does Chad hiha Know? another media hack
April 27th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
why are he defending us? and what is he defending us from?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Would Chicago take a 7th rd pick for Brian Urlacher?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Mike Smith talks good talk for the raiders though
April 27th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
coinman, kiffin HAS done a good job, and this is a VERY good draft class, we’re definitely one of the winners this weekend and have one of the top 10 draft classes so far this year
April 27th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
You should watch NFLN instead of BSPN.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Last round….any guesses.
Mine is an OL Cable covets. Almost a Guarantee.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Those analysts on BSPN are no more knowledgeable than us about anything they’re talking about. It is fashionable to denigrate the Raiders, and I can’t wait to prove them all wrong this year.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Raiding Texas…I flip back and forth.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Jhill 86:
It has nothing to due with bashing AD. You’re trying to imply that if we critize
AD that we’re haters. Who appointed you the
supreme ruler to judge others on this blog who in their opinion post negative opinions
about AD.
As Raider fans on this blog or any blog, we’re allowed to disagree or agree, and that doesn’t mean we’re any less of a Raiders fan than you or anyone else.
Because your always going to side with AD and everything he does, that doesn’t make you a more loyal fan or a better fan.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
7th round– Thaddeus Coleman, make it happen Cable
April 27th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Kush..Right on
April 27th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Hey ALL you guys have a great day!!!! WE ALL LOVE THE NATION SO KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO, agree to disagree.
OUT
April 27th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
“Funny, our best KR in years (Carr) was an undrafted FA. How many undrafted FA OL and DL have we started in the last ten years?”
If grady Jackson was our return guy he would have just as good an avg…
Chris Carr’s records is based on quantity and not quality, All Branch has to do to be better than Carr and JLH is to keep his hands on the ball…
April 27th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
“# Blackholepriest Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Mike J not to disagre but we’re not the pros.
The coaches know what we have and if they needed more help at DT we think they do but maybe they feel differently or there is no way we pass on Dorsey. Who knows we’ll have to wait and see.”
Hey, BHP, you brought to mind something that I have always found curious: In sports people plain assume that the people in charge are competent. But in any other profession they will question the professionals (doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc) til the cows come home. Strange and weird as hell.
That said, do the coaches really know what we have, COULD THEY BE WRONG AS HELL, or are they simply to follow Big Al’s dictums? And how are we to know that Big Al is RIGHT? Cuz recent history says otherwise and says it loudly and damn sure enough clearly as well. Example: Kelly and Sands were not able to stop the run last year, together or alone. But now they can? Why? What’s the rationale there (if any) other than the Raidah “PROFESSIONALS” say so? Give me a friggin’ break……
So, in the meantime, while those burning questions are answered, I think I’ll stick to using my brain, eyes, ears, and nose to see what makes sense, what doesn’t look right, what sounds like pure Raidah B.S., and what simply stinks.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Alright, gotta run. Regardless of how anybody feels about this draft, I hope we win more than four games this coming season.
Peace fellow Raiders fans!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Packers with another QB!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
were going to make history this year. the most expensive IR in NFL history.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
COW,
I’ll just respectively disagree.
I have Branch as a need over a backup Dline guy.
You assume Scott would’ve been available in the 7th round. Is there a comparable DE who would have been there? That OUR BOARD had ranked as high.
Again, I respect, and even understand, to a degree, your point. But I disagree.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Cable needs to get us one of these guys:
Thaddeus Coleman
Phil Trautwein
Demetrius Bell
King Dunlap
April 27th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
RR, you are right…it just proves he is willing to “swallow” anything Al gives him without questioning it.
Jhill must have been an “ALter” Boy and loved it。。。
April 27th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Wait! Those analyists are “professionals”. I thought we we’re suppose to listen to the professionals?
In the 2008 draft we:
Added 1 starter as an upgrade at HB our deepest position
Added 1 starter as upgrade at our 2nd deepest position (CB) I’m giving them Hall as a 2nd rd pick.
Added a special teams guy.
Wow. What was I concerned about? We’re preseason champions for the 5th year in a row!
April 27th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
forget 8-8, we have to win 10 games to shut BSPN up……….
April 27th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
The packers choose, Mat Flynn?
April 27th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
How many return guys have we drafted or signed over the years??? They NEVER pan out for us. Tim Brown took a couple to the house in the 1930s. Howard, Carr, JLH, Woodson, etc etc etc…never works out and I seriously doubt Branch will be a D. Hall type guy either. We should have gone NT at that spot, then took a risk on a speedy project that may or may not improve our return game in round 6 or 7.
One of those NTs could certainly have competed with Sands for the NT spot, but hey, lets gamble on some projects and special teams players instead…sometimes we draft like our team is set and we can afford to take on pet projects. Insane.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Mike J…in 2006 sands was a beast. Family issues in 2007…This will be His defining year as a “Proffessional Player”…Kelly having to focus on just 1 or mabey 2 players during film study prior toa game, can be a force playing just the 3. IMO
April 27th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Coach on Wheels, please keep posting. Your ability to analyze this mess called the Oakland Raidahs is on-point and refreshing. Now, back to the “Greatness of the Raidahs”……
April 27th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
ok the chief added dorsey, and now they add Johnston
that is gonna be tough next years
April 27th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
jhill – Trust me. I’d prefer that you are right and I’m wrong come the regular season. I’m still a fan. Sadly, been praying I was wrong ever since Gruden was traded.
April 27th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
what happen to pick 213
April 27th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Okam….Okam went to Huston…UFB! We need a Bloated Beast at NT and instead keep Terdel “Stands”….
UFB!
P.S. Jhill says “Gulp”.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
ok, so we got higgins and now shields as WR weapons developing for Russel in the next couple of years, not bad. Shields can be the replacement for curry and get some yards after the catch (its what he’s known for) and higgins can go deep.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Raiders draft so far….
Darren McFadden
DeAngelo Hall
Mario Henderson
Gerald Warren
Tyvon Branch
Arman Shields
Trevor Scott
April 27th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
13 picks and we grab our last player
April 27th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Riverside,
I understand you’re new to this (by your own recent revalation), but you need to keep up, SIR!
If you come on this blog and do nothing but say ..
“Typical Al pick ..” or something of that nature without offering an alternative, then what’s the point? I thought there were a bunch of MEN in here! Who wants to hear a bunch of senseless whining? Like my wife is doing now bugging me about going to Costco!
Or ignoring the FACT that DT, 3 tech and NT has beed addressed?
Whatever floats your boat, SIR!
Be grumpy if you want to. Be mad instead of optimistic if you want to. You’re right, it’s your misery. Languish in it you want to.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
houston get okam to go along with williams and okoye
they load their dl to face the colts and the jags
April 27th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
OK I didn’t say you shouldn’t I simply said they’re there everyday so who has a better idea. don’t take it personal. I really don’t care.
Nothing is a gaurantee DMC could be a bust who knows.
I don’t disagree you’re your own person so be it.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
In 2001 Sands had 41 tackles and 1 sack. He hasn’t been a “beast” since High school.
Last year was the 2nd best season Sands has had in his career starting in 2001.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
In 2006 rather.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Lowdown,
Right … Alter boy ….
Yaaaaawwwwnnnnn
I always wondered about you dudes who go to the homo references. What type of guy even thinks about homo stuff? Even if it about others?
Again, always wondered about you guys ?????
April 27th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
“RaiderLen Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Mike J…in 2006 sands was a beast. Family issues in 2007…This will be His defining year as a “Proffessional Player”…Kelly having to focus on just 1 or mabey 2 players during film study prior toa game, can be a force playing just the 3. IMO”
RaiderLen, I truly hope so. But 2006 was a mirage. We were so “good” against the pass cuz teams could run against us at will (same refrain during the Davis-Ryan administration). That stuff was exposed last year as well as the fact that teams could score whenever it mattered (how many times did we score and turn around and give up aTD drive?). So, for their careers, I ain’t impressed by either Kelly or Sands. Do I hope that they turn into Pro Bowlers next year. Damn straight! Do I expect it? Nope. Some competition for those big dollars would be heavenly (which I don’t begrudge them one bit for getting as long as it doesn’t SEEM to effect their play). Ya’ dig?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
BBB
I could easily live with one of these 2
Thaddeus Coleman
Demetrius Bell
April 27th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
In 2006 Sands Clearly was effective in disrupting the oppossing teams running scheme and demanded a double team.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Tommy Trojan: i want to keep kiffin and our coaching staff intact. i will support whoever we draft, as i always have. i just don’t see how we have helped ourselves today. i am very worried, but you will find few more loyal to whatever the raiders do than myself. i hope i’m needlessly concerned- but i doubt it…
April 27th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Maybe you’re really trying to come out? Is it really all in your name anyway?
Downlow in Beijing?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Kirk Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Raiders draft so far….
Darren McFadden
DeAngelo Hall
Mario Henderson
Gerald Warren
Tyvon Branch
Arman Shields
Trevor Scott
__________________________________________________
I don’t mean to nitpick but this is not quite accurate:
1. We traded a 3rd this year for Henderson and a 7th last year;
2. We traded a 2nd this year for Hall and a 5th next year;
So we really drafted:
Darren McFadden
75% of DeAngelo Hall
80% of Mario Henderson
Gerald Warren
Tyvon Branch
Arman Shields
Trevor Scott
April 27th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Jhilll what are you talking about? post 296
April 27th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Mike J …what i’m saying is that i feel that Sands and Kelly WILL be better given the circumstances preceedeing this comming season. Pro bowls? I don’t Know, the ability to “contain” the run Yes.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Darrell Robertson is STILL available, it’s ridiculous that we havn;t already grabbed him, but if he’s there at #226 and we pass him I’ll be PISSED!!!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
What the? BSPN’s tracker says detroit is on the clock for the next 52 minutes !?!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
TT..Give Big Al a call
April 27th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
raiderlen, i hope you are right. we don tneed them to be pro bowler, bt just to do their job
April 27th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
“RaiderLen Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
In 2006 Sands Clearly was effective in disrupting the oppossing teams running scheme and demanded a double team.”
Sorry, RaiderLen, maybe I’m wrong for looking for something that maybe ain’t on this team. Who knows?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
TT whats going on right now?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
it is what it is. truth is we have alot of ifs that need to pan out to have a sucessfull season.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Anybody got a idea as to when Lamont Jordan will be released and who will pick him up?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
what do you think of butler or henderson at olb instead of robertson at de
April 27th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
len, i’m trying to call my buddy so he can lobby for robertson but his phone is off, and i’m not sure he’s going to listen to me…….
April 27th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
espn site lags badly lol
216 @ 219?
I think it is an interesting draft.
I think we got some day one impact players on board, with some others that at least will push the competition at camp. What more can you ask for. When comparing what we got for picks/FA trade against what we got last year, we did much better this time around.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
ohh its on again, 52 minutes was a bit too much =)
April 27th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
LMN ..
Some dude trying to come out on this blog!
See 277 and 287.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
now its only Thaddeus Coleman left
April 27th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
TT…call Big Al’s Bro…He can get it done…lol
April 27th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
have kirk barton or brandon keith been taken yet? i don’t see them off the board……..grab one of these guys
April 27th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Mike Dragosavich is still on the board.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
carolina pick 221
April 27th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
damn, Demetrius Bell of the board, and Joshua Barrett will be terrorizing us twice a year
April 27th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Off to Costco …
April 27th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
i only know one guy in scouting well enough to have that kind of discussion and have him trust me, but he’s actually involved in the process and his phone is busy…..who would have thought………..
April 27th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa barrett went to the donkey
April 27th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
I’ve got a trade idea: Al Davis for Bill Polian on draft day every year. Big Al can have the team for the other 364 days of the year.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Jhill….
Jebus, what is this second grade?
I agree, those who talks about gays usually is a latent gay themselves
April 27th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
5 picks to our turn?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
barrett is the next sean taylor, and we will face him twice a year
April 27th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
LMN,
If we got Thad Coleman or Phil Trautwein I would actually be happy with this draft, despite the Al Davis picks in the middle rounds
April 27th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
post 315… day one impact playerS? as far as i know we had one(1) pk day one…
April 27th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
TT..next year dude…gather some more juice…and make it happen!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
HEy, Mike Gibson from Cal got picked. I was selfishly hoping he would go undrafted so we could get a look at a local guy in camp. Good for him, though.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
post 328- lmn, u got that rt.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Man, the Stealers had a good weekend.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
#328 not that there is anything wrong with that. Sceinfeld…
April 27th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
*seinfeld
April 27th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
len, hopefully in the next year or two i’ll actuall be involved in the scouting process
April 27th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
All the luck in the world to you. Go For It!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
335,328,317 go find a yahoo newsgroup for that shite, this is about the draft and what we got and what we gonna do!
I usually got no beef but gawddamn grow da eff up!!!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
lmn 2 picks befor us
April 27th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
LMN …
Right!
How about an adult argument for why Okam may be better than Sands? Or and adult argument for why someone feels they know more than WHOEVER decided Branch was more of a need than Okam?
What if it was Kiffin, who we all know values STs, made the pick instead of AL? Would that make a difference? Or would some people find another reason to complain about why someone didn’t agree with them.
And they call us the know it alls? At least we CONCEDE to what the team does, instead of ‘”Awwwwwwwwww, DAMNNNNNNN, AL SUCKS, THE RAIDERS SUCK, Al needs to die, WTF, etc ….”
There is a such thing as other options, you know? More than one way to skin a cat? Not just your way or the highway people!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
were next now
April 27th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
We’re almost up, and I want a SAM
April 27th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Whose going to be the next pick Tommy?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Bishop916….
WHAT???
grow up you say? well that exactly my point and you can see others agree…
I think you misread those post – real bad
April 27th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
barton, keith, or robertson, or blake, or bowman, hopefully one of those guys
April 27th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
D.J. Hall
April 27th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
well, there goes keith
April 27th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
ON THE CLOCK
April 27th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
lets see Al Davis’s newest joke
April 27th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Bishop916…
i’ve been on this for over 1½ so pipe down and start read, will ya?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Bishop,
You’re misdirecting your anger.
See 277 and 287, then talk to me!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Josh Barrett is not Sean Taylor, he’s Steve Atwater. Ouch! Can’t believe he lasted this long.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
I think the Raiders are going to take a RB here.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
sheeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
please take dj hall!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
well
Jhill as long as we understands each other =)
April 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
chaz schielens?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
WR Chaz schilens?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
wr chaz schiles
April 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
You got another one Tommy
April 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
wtf
April 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
What a terrible day.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
WHATT??? This is stupid
April 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Out!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
mabe all my debates with my buddy held some weight………….
April 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
oh man, I remember you mentioning him and Trevor Scott like a month ago TT, you are in Al Davis’ head
April 27th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
You’re killin me Tommy!
You really are on the payroll.
LOL!
Out for real!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
another FREAK, and an Aztec at that
April 27th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
LOL at least Tommy Trojan likes it
April 27th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Everyone owes Tommy Trojan MAJOR respect…CHAZ muthaf’n SCHILENS…he’s touted this guy for a long time!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
bob, did i not tell you my dream 6th and 7th rounders were scott and schilens?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Gotcha – I didn’t read back far enough,.
My apologies go out to all affected.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
All right now we just gotta pray that Thadd Coleman or Phil Trautwein can make it to Free Agency, and we pick them up
April 27th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
So put it down on this idiot TT, whats he about?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
who???? who the hell is that?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Chazz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3w92pPUDL8
April 27th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
TT for GM..Ill root for you bro. Couldnt do any worse,lol!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I wouldnt be mad at this pick if we didnt waste a pick on Shields already. Chaz is bigger, stronger, and faster. Didnt he run a sub 4.4. So now this pick just irritates me. Or better yet, the Shields pick irritates me even more.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
This guy is a steal. I have been talking about him since his freshman year. Great Pick!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
4 of my guys, that’s priceless
April 27th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
TT…
no doubt about that… all your eggs got through… I still dont remember you talking about scott, but perhaps thats was when I was abroad
April 27th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Well, done TT! I had this guy marked down from your touts so I will verify it. You had him. Well done!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Tommy..
Yes, you did, I can attest to that.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Now THIS is a stupid pick …
April 27th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Chaz who!?!?!?! Tommy T, since I have been posting here you have been one of the guys who have made sense and seemed logical. I gotta hope your even half right about all the picks after Branch!! I’ll just sit back and watch our rookie FA picks and other pickups on through camp! I’m out NATION! Peace.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Thizz…Shields will play the slot
April 27th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Alright Tommy – Now the scouting really starts, so who do we need to be on the phone with right now? I’m thinking Bowman, Henderson, Highsmith, Radovich, Spanos, Robertson, Schwartz, Bess, Polumbus, etc.
Get two of these guys and I’ll be happy.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
What do they run the wishbone at SDSU or something? If he is that good why only 35 receptions? What is so good about this guy?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
6-4 210 WR with 4.38 speed, 42.5in vertical, great hands and an Aztec at that……..
April 27th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
TT i would trade for our draft for Texans, Bills or eagles drafts
April 27th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
THis Chazz dude reminds me of that tall whiteboy that played for the Doncos, you know who I’m talking bout.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
TT…Good work
April 27th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
good player but needed another o-line or olb
April 27th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
His name is Chaz.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
R8R Ern…Ed McCaffery
April 27th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
TT
you explain why we draft 2 WR when we added starting WR in FA? especially when we have needs?
I could accept 1 but 2?? thats weird especially when we could have added some D
April 27th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
any bio from this Chazz guy
April 27th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Chaz Schilens (WR)
Height: 6′4″
Weight: 225
April 27th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
dakota, my aztecs are doormats in the mountain west and have a very underutilized passing game, he’s not polished and has strength of competion questions but when you can get a guy this athletic, with GREAT hands in he 7th you’ve got a potential steal
April 27th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Now is a good time to unload the Shwy Guy.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
R8R-ern
who? who do you think of?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Ok, so, what are we going to do to shore up LB, O-line and D-line?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
LMN…injury history and $$$$…plus best rated on the board
April 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
great pick! another wr! hope he’s versatile enough to double as an ot if we need him!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
where are the big fat guys???
April 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
I think we get an A- for picking McFadden and an F- for everything that happened today…I disagree with everything today, we needed a diamond in the rough on the D-line, we chose a TE who sucked so bad at TE they put him at D-line, and thats the only attempt o fix the most obvious problem. IMO we FUB today!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
man after round 7 you’ll see the raider explode hiring 5 O.linemen and 4 d-linemen and 4 LB’ers
April 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
TT was right on, i just wish we took one WR and added a DT or OL
April 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
This late in the draft, you don’t draft needs.
Just take the best guy on the board.
Who could we have drafted in the 6th round that would be a starter on OL or DL?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
the slowest guy we drafted runs 4.54…………we need to hit the lines hard with our UDFAs
April 27th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
RaiderLen knew him, McCaffrey. He always burned us because of his height and strength.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
#405…ED MCCAFFERY>>>WR STANFORD UNIVERSITY
April 27th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Unbelievable talent still available. I hope Al uses his moxy to get some guys here. Good new is we have some locals that are probably Raider fans to begin with. Let’s get Spanos and Radovich in camp to compete.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
i think grady jacksons coming back
April 27th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
A- or B+ overall
anything lower is irrational cynicism…………..
April 27th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Even a big body like Hayden from Wisconsin woulda worked. To me, a sad second day.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
well when regular season ended I asked for some weapos to Jammy, Like so many else here.
Most wanted fast guys (barrian) that could stretch the field. I wanted Tall guys that could fight for the ball. not these 5-10, 5-11 guys, but 6-2 as minimum!
I got that wish fulfilled, in plenty I might add =)
April 27th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
DMAC better be the best back in a decade
April 27th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
F— MAN. I don’t know wat da hell is up with AL? Another WR and DE Robertson was available or OL or even a DT…. This is a bad draft year for the Raider I give them an D- overall what you guys think?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
A- or B+ or less is cynicism? I loved McFadden, but come on, a bunch of low end recievers and corners does not shore up this team. Stop drinking the cool-aid.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Well, at least we didn’t draft a midget!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
the average 40 time of this draf class is 4.39, that’s hilarious
April 27th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I like the Schilens pick. This kid ran 4.38 at his proday at 6′4 208lbs and did a 43 inch vertical. He has special athleticism and could be anything.
Size really matters and he is 6′4 and can really jump.
There are so many interesting prospects still on the board.
Erin Henderson OLB MARYLAND
Darrell Robertson DE GA TECH
Ali Highsmith OLB LSU
Marcus Griffin S TEXAS
King Dunlap OT AUBURN
Drew Radovich OG USC
Wesley Woodyard OLB KENTUCKY
Simeon Castille S ALABAMA
Jamie Silva S BC
Geoff Schwartz OT OREGON
Jo-Lonn Dunbar ILB BC
Tommy Blake DE TCU
Marcus Dixon DE HAMPTON
ranklin Dunbar OT M TENN ST
Bobby Byrd OT WASH ST
Brian Stamper OT VANDERBILT
Shannon Boatman OT FLORIDA ST
Kyle Wright QB MIAMI
T.C. Ostrander QB STANFORD
There will be some good prospects undrafted tonight.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Overall draft rating a C-. Like Tomlin said, “surround yourself with defensive players or weapons.” Well we got a chit load of weapons for Jammy.
With the picks we hadleft, we did “OK”.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
NEW POST
April 27th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
TT…
B+ ? that is high
April 27th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
We wont be bitching about this draft when McFadden becomes the next Marcus Allen.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Ok. This another example of a fine pick if you operate in a vaccum. Walker, Curry, Carter, Shields, JLH,now Chazz.
On the other hand
Burgess, Richardson, Edwards, and Scott if he plays DE. So if brittle Burgess gets hurt we’ve got Richardson and Edwards starting with Scott as #1 back-up?
Good to know we got the #5 & #6 WR spots wrapped up. Oh wait DMAC can go out wide so we drafted the #6 and #7 WR’s? Funny, last year we only carried 5 WR’s didn’t we?
April 27th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Chanel 21 interviewing DMac right now
April 27th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
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April 27th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
got off the phone with a colleague from la jolla – he watched this last pick over the last few years and says hes has SCARY potential – like a smaller randy moss – but with the same attitude
April 27th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
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April 27th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
TT: i am no more irrational than the next guy, and never cynical when the raiders are involved. i am nonetheless puzzled and disappointed by this draft that brought us a potentially fine running back and no one to help him realize his potential. this was the strangest draft i have seen in years.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I like them all except for teh guy from Richmondand theguy from Buffalo, but I dont know anything about them. So, oh well.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Dakota
That midget will be a Pro Bowler if not this year, the next. Congrats on getting your guy elected. Now that he’s a raider I’ll definitely support him.
I knew my midget was going early and that proved true at #6. Fortunately we will not have to play against him all that often. I’m glad he ended up with the Saints. I enjoy watching and rooting for them. actually, I just like visiting New Orleans – good music, great food, great southern culture, etc., etc., etc.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
F- today for the Raiders I’ll stand by that and take all the heat you throw at me for it, but I hope this 6′4 leaper turns out to be good,and of couse McFadden is a beast, but write this down…The rest wont even make the team, let alone start. Thanks for the new practice squad Al!
April 27th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Hopefully we pick up radovich after draft is over or Highsmith….
April 27th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
who can argue that this pick didn’t solidify our d-line.
hahjahhaa
ct raider
April 27th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
I think that guys like this a diamond in the rough, I mean you take a guy like this and he does nothin but work his butt off for you. But then again it remains to be seen what comes of this pick.
April 27th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Damn y’all,
Well… not all you. I don’t understand how anyone can say yea or nae to most anyone below the dreams of the first two rounds. Most draft evaluations never play out until a few years pass, save the Giants last year—big rookie contributions. Talking about what people know about these kids as football players makes sense. All the “measurables” about a player don’t mean a thing unless football is in his soul. When you got that, and McFadden sure does, the “measurables” don’t mean a thing, and in fact become the very place of what makes them exceptional and unique as a player, like Marcus, who could fall behind other running backs in his draft. Speed IS the one thing you cannot teach. We added more team speed with this draft: all over the field, with solid yet not overwhelming tackling ability. With one pick we added heart and speed to the special teams, as well as corner. And another to DE or LB and the teams. Let’s not forget about running back, slot receiver, wide, screen receiver, passer, the Lamborgini of Bush’s Hummer is McFadden, and both are rookie running backs this season, with Bush have more knowledge of plays, assignments, and schemes.
Using the draft to bag on Al seems silly, when you think how long it takes to evaluate (can anyone yet grade our 2007 draft?) a draft and it’s a quality of fan that reminds me of the Jets fans, booing whatever their team does on draft day, as if knowing careers clearly before they happen. I get venting about the values you hold not being met by the team, as in who is the right draft pick, but not getting what you want need not get in the way of addressing what you have. It’s like Kiffin saying to not let a loss of a game or a play beat you on the next play or game. Plus, I wish we could always get what we wanted. This is a year when what we got matched my wish. This draft appears smart. Football players and speed, or good speed for size, and an impact player who gets to take his shot at the professional arena.
Whatever… I love the picks and the whispers of their football greatness.
Back in the day I thought that McFadden and Bush would be our Lightening and Thunder storming through the league. I don’t care about what they get dubbed, I’m just crazy that we get to find out. Who would have thought two years ago entering the 2006 college season and had imagined back then about the Bush/McFadden backfield? Would you have taken it?
We did get some D-Line help, and we have another round of potential additions coming up in June.
In this day and age of speed, information at the fingertips creating monstrous blogs like the one here of Jerry’s kids (come on now, it’s a joke), it’s no wonder that a sense of patience, like a running back exhibiting at 4.28 speeds, holding off for the hole to open before making his own hole, leaves a place like this one. We could use a breath or two before proclaiming a career before one step is taken on the field. Was anyone really hot on McElroy back in the day? (I was after his fight with Marcus during practice!)
I love the way we get information like we get here with Jerry and on the Bee with Jason, but I sure would love us to read them with less dramatics for sure. McFadden can definitely learn ball security for the NFL, but he can only teach others how his speed and strength can overwhelm others… like Dorsey during the last two season match-ups.
I appreciate our Raider passion, and love the striking of hot iron that takes place here, and call for passionate discussion of our footballers as players. Who has seen these guys beyond the highlights, how they show up in the games?
Raider on,
Guamanian Raider
April 28th, 2008 at 7:24 am
A great palyer abnd guy. Strong character with good instincts. A lot of upside. He will make the team and produce. He will be a real good feel good story..congradulations
April 28th, 2008 at 7:43 am
Thanks Mark… I like your slant about him.
Raider on,
Guamanian Raider
June 4th, 2008 at 6:00 am
Having coached Trevor Scott in Track and Field and having coached on an opposing football team versus him, you will find no better person to represent the NFL.
He not only is capable of playing the game at that level, but he can do what so many others fail to do and that is be a good role model.
You have made a wise investment. He epitomizes what athleticism should be about.
May 25th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
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