Walker matter under review
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, June 16th, 2008 at 8:03 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A Raiders spokesman said “We are in the process of gathering information,” regarding the status of wide receiver Javon Walker, who was reportedly found unconconscious in Las Vegas with an orbital fracture Monday morning.
Walker, according to Fox affiliate KVVU-5, was listed in fair condition.
The Las Vegas-Review Journal reported Walker was spotted at the nightspot “Tryst” at the Wynn “spraying the crowd with some of the 15 bottles of Dom Perignone Rose champagne he ordered.”
Walker signed a free agent contract with $16 million in guaranteed money in the offseason but was still rounding into shape following knee surgery. Coach Lane Kiffin said he wanted Walker to lose weight before the Raiders went to training camp in Napa.
A report filed with the the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department identified Walker as the “victim of an early morning crime.”
The statement read as follows:
“The victim of an early morning crime near the intersection of Winnick Avenue and Koval lane has been identified as Javon Walker. Officers responded to a report of a man down at that location at approximately 7:19 a.m. this morning. When officers arrived they found an unconscious male, who appears to have been the victim of a robbery. The victim was transported to an area hospital with siginficant injuries. Late this afternoon detectives were able to positively identify the victim as Walker.
“Walker remains hospitalized at this time and this investigation remains ongoing. Anyone with information concinering this event is urged to contact Crime Stoppers at (702) 385-5555.”
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June 16th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Thats brutal.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
terrible signing
June 16th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
man…
June 16th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
why does it seem like as soon as we have some good news we get a tirade of negativity…
June 16th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
here we go again…….
June 16th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
yeah and everybody here was on my neck because I found Javon to be our biggest offensive worry?!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
the same fate will befall Sistaclown except that no one will give a rats a$$.
lol
June 16th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
The only positive thing we can take away from this is the season is a good 12 weeks away. Hopefully thats enough for him to heal
June 16th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Still caught up with the worng crowd…
June 16th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
and right after his statement tht he was looking forward to playing”that team”……..
June 16th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
he probably set this up knomwing he sucks and is over weight
June 16th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
its disgusting…
June 16th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Wow… just when we are looking to get things turned in the right direction and have really been clear of these types of issues since the GHB days a few seasons back.
It is nice to see that the NFL is getting behind the good of the game and not behind the players that feel it is their right and not their privledge.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
omg it was probably mike shanahan?!?!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
and we have Ronald Curry who is doing the right thing but is still projected at 3
June 16th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
I honestly dont think he will see the field this year. Hopefully Im wrong
June 16th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
f this….
June 16th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
who ronald curry?
June 16th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Jesus….I hate living in Vegas. Most dangerous city in the U.S. …no matter where you are or what you’re doing.
Was he in the wrong place doing some questionable things?
Probably.
Did he deserve what he got?
Sure doesn’t sound like it.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
we should sign chris henry lol
June 16th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
or javon”hype” walker?
June 16th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Dark horse…
Curry needs to stay at #3, thats his best spot, then he’ll get 700yds… he ins’t good or fast enough to be #1, and Carter is our #2…
June 16th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Recovery time can start at 3 weeks and goes up from there. Hopefully he thinks about getting things figured out and turned around. There are not other teams that will take a chance on him if he doesnt last in Oakland.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
i hate to hear he got hurt, but in all honesty we need a better role model to depend on catching passes for this team.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
LMN -
Carter may now be our #1 WR
June 16th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
he can easily recover a head injury, getting down in weight at the same time, but him on a stationary bike an let him sweat! that cant hurt his head
June 16th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
I was happy that porter left cuz it wud create more pt for curry. and i am just really upset javon did this
June 16th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
where were his friends?
June 16th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Wow …
A person gets beat down, robbed, and left for dead, but he’s the problem?
He wasn’t at strip club or anything, it was a nice club at the W, a TOP NOTCH hotel.
Vegas? Weekend? Plenty of $?
Can’t a guy enjoy himself any more? I guess not!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
The Dude…
then Higgins might get to try #2, because we need to stretch the field, but I don’t know if he is ready, it didn’t seem like it last year
June 16th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
DIDNT DESERVE IT????
“spraying the crowd with some of the 15 bottles of Dom Perignone”
If you got sprayed by someone who doesnt give a damn about money and you work your ass off, you would bust him on the face to regardless of who it is.
Same thing with Pacman, you work hard for your money, you go to the strip club and some guy brings 50k+ in CASH to blow, you wouldnt just sit there and think…. that guy is lucky…. where are you at church??
He got what he deserved if the story is accurate.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
the facts will come out in time…
June 16th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
did this???
come on man, don’t be silly
June 16th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
What a f@#king idiot!!! I mean what a seriously stupid person! Spraying the 15 bottles of champagne… He probably pissed off some thugs who then beat the holy crap out of him. $16 million guaranteed. Al Davis, you are as much of an a$$ clown as J. Walker. Way to do your research!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
IT IS BRETT FAVRE’S FAULT
June 16th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
he obviously pissed someone off and got rolled up, where were his friends who shud be watching his back ,…why alot of unanswered questions…. we shud wait for the facts before casting judgement i guess
June 16th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Ooooooooooooooooooo-kay …
Now it’s Al’s fault?!?!!?
Laffs I say!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Story said the first round of champagne cost 15,000…
June 16th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Clearly it’s not Brett Farves fault. It’s Rob Ryans fault right clown?
June 16th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
but the initial idea looks like he made someone jealous and they flipped him ,… he shud be lucky they didnt kill him really. imagine if we were discussing another sean taylor situaition
June 16th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
how messed up wud that be…
June 16th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
i c alot of trolls
June 16th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
You would think when one of your team mates literally dies in your arms from effing around in clubs, you might be a tiny bit judicious as to where you hang and when.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
# Darkhorse Says:
June 16th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
I was happy that porter left cuz it wud create more pt for curry. and i am just really upset javon did this
# Darkhorse Says:
June 16th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
he obviously pissed someone off and got rolled up, where were his friends who shud be watching his back ,…why alot of unanswered questions…. we shud wait for the facts before casting judgement i guess
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“and im really pissed of javon did this”
well then get down from your high dark horse and wait… it seems to me you already have judged him…..
June 16th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Best reports are that he got robbed. Nothing about pissing somebody off spraying them with champagne. Get a clue.
He could have definitely used better judgment in being around friends, or at least a crowd… but
If the STORY IS ACCURATE… in no way did he deserve getting robbed and beaten.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
I’m really glad our running game is pretty decent. We will need it if he can’t get in shape and we can’t land another option.
It seems like he was hit as we was getting out in morning. Sucks regardless of the situation.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
whoops, i’m not that good quoting I see =) upset/pissed off – potato/potaaahto
June 16th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
right, DH …
He could have been killed by these haters, but he’s getting bashed. Amazing!
Certainly, he needs to answer some questions, namely why was he by himself? Especially on the streets? All athletes, or high profile folks should know that.
He’s very lucky to be alive!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Get well soon Javon!
Even though everyone is freaking out we all want to see you on the field this year scoring TD’s for The Raiders!!!!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
I should call that number. I know who did it. Mike ordered a hit on walker, sadly for him champ bailey and bly didn’t finish.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
This is un-f..kig believable….
June 16th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Al, Please don’t sign anymore #1 free agent receivers to huge contracts…Moss, Walker…Ouch!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
He sure is… Very lucky it didn’t go further than an ass whoopen.
The reason a lot of people are on his case is because this guy hasn’t been a Raider yet, so it’s easier to get on his ass about it. He hasn’t done anything for the team yet! And it seems like his misjudgement may have hurt us. At the very least, it will have distracted the team and the positive vibe the team has had in recent days.
Ah well. I just hope he can recover in time.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
I got home from work at 0415, just wanted to see if anything had happened… I better go to bed, I cant even think properly yet alone write english =)
June 16th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
JR you’re right in the fact that no one deserves to be robbed and beaten, (other than mistaclown), but the fact is he was found at 7:15 am on the streets of Vegas. Now, without drawing too many weird conclusions, I’ll bet:
Javon didn’t go to sleep at 10pm so he could wake up at 5am, do some yoga and thai chi, and then run 10 miles thru the streets of Vegas on his way to his work out regimen. Which when someone promises to pay you $50MM to be a professional athlete, is exactly what he should have been doing!!!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Vegas police are still looking for Tupac’s killer, I doubt they give much effort into a rich guy getting beat up for showing how much cash he has.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
hope he is ok though…
June 16th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
…
June 16th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
yeah, thats it… Night all! hope there will be more and better news when I wake up… God I’m TIRED!!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Chris Henry has been suspended by the NFL so you can rule him out.
We have the same problem in Sydney with our footballers out at 4am, and we’re in the middle of our football season!!!
Nothing good happens when your a footballer and out on the town early in the morning….
June 16th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
well i am looking at from many different perspectives
June 16th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
He’s lucky to be alive. His vision now comes into question. The socket will heal pretty quick. It’s a huge setback for all involved. Too early to judge him.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Hopefully he comes out of this a more humbler person but still agressive on the field in his play.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Damn. Why? No! Crap………………………………………………………………….That really sux…….
June 16th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Oakglenn…
As I said… if reports are accurate… he could have used better judgment. OK… MUCH better judgment. But some are suggesting Javon deserved this.
I won’t judge a man harshly for getting out and enjoying himself. He just went through OTA’s and was probably just letting off some steam before getting back into the grind.
Question is… does Walker have a history of partying too hardy? Is this typical of his “normal” behavior? Or was he simply a victim of being in a bad place at a bad time?
June 16th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
R.A.W. Says:
June 16th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
“I should call that number. I know who did it. Mike ordered a hit on walker, sadly for him champ bailey and bly didn’t finish.”
Someone else said almost that exact same thing on the last thread. Try to be more original bro or at least less obvious when you are ripping somebody off.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
alot of questions and not enuf answers at this stage….
June 16th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Wasn’t Javon the dude sitting next to Darrent Williams in that limo when Darrent was shot? That was in Vegas…
June 16th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
I hope hes permanently blind,..hes a bum,…a cancer…hope hes cut before he leaves the hospital,..typical black player,..too much money, cant stay out of Vegas and strip joints,…Im not at all surprised.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
if u bought 15 bottles of bubbly at a very high end bar and started spraying it on a crowd of people who prolly didnt wanna be involved… someone is gonna get pissed. but where were his friends. people shud have tried to see this as a moment of obvious drunkeness and watched his back.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Hey’Mr Walker if you want to be a player wait and show us your moves on the playing field.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
he was deserted by whatever hangers on tht were there by the sound of it.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
He can’t catch a pass but he can catch a hell of a left!
CT RAIDER
June 16th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
this cud be a media lie too though… so who knows too early t tell, but sounda bad
June 16th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Where is our boy alameda jokester insider..he is always telling us of his inside connections..i guess his only connection is the trash dumpster..haha..anybody who believes that fool needs to be dropped in the local mental hospital..
June 16th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
maybe he should have been rehabbing and trying to earn his 54 mil! CUt him!
CT RAIDER
June 16th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
JR, read #68. Yes, Darrent Williams died in Walkers arms after a nite of partying in Denver. Hey, I never hold a bit of partying against anyone. But when people are getting killed, and someone is paying you $50mm, you have to adjust your loyalties and priorities.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
he has an orbital fracture, he’ll have surgery and wont be able to blow his nose for a month.. thats it he’ll be fine and in great shape by the seasons start
June 16th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Say Dude, looks like sista clown slipped out the back door when no one was looking. typical coward. Probably kicked some pregnant teenager on the way out.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
i guess if he doesn’t blow his he’ll save money!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
In the last thread I said some of you need to be taken out back and have the sh!t knocked out of you…
I rest my case.
# Horny the Bear Says:
June 16th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
I hope hes permanently blind,..hes a bum,…a cancer…hope hes cut before he leaves the hospital,..typical black player,..too much money, cant stay out of Vegas and strip joints,…Im not at all surprised.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
A dead friend didn’t do it. $50mil? Nope. I doubt that a broken orbital bone will change Javon. He is who he is.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
mistabrown is a punk..he pops in and jerks off on any post..what a loser..does he ever say anything from his own brain..i think not..just my stinkin opinion
June 16th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
OakGlenn, until now your post about the NYG not hardly blitzing in the SB was the single dumbest post I ever read and then Darkhorse said the following so you are now ranked #2.
# Darkhorse Says:
June 16th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
i think ronald curry shud be our number one is all im sayin
June 16th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Usually, the athlete is portrayed as criminal these days, but sometimes the reverse is true. Try this link -
http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2006/11/10/athletes_as_victims/
One of the greatest baseball players ever, Ed Delahanty, walked across a railroad bridge and fell into the Niagara River when he was drunk, went over the Falls, and was killed. Talk about foolishness.
Walker was lucky, he’s still alive, and hopefully he’ll heal OK. Maybe he’ll learn THIS time that today’s athletes are targets.
That old time Raider party image doesn’t play so well in today’s corporate NFL, eh? When Bobby Layne Lions HOF QB) got pulled over while DUI in 1950’s Detroit, he would get a police escort home, one in the front, one in the back, just get ‘em on Sunday, Bobby. Bet Snake got away with it in the 1970’s too.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
I hope its not an orbital fracture b/c that can be damaging esp for a reciever who needs to have good vision. This is the same injury that ended Marcus Williams (TE) career when Romo decked him about 5 years ago.
We need to get the facts though, like others have said he may have put himself in a bad situation but he probably did’nt deserve to get rolled up, robbed whatever, and the sh!t beat out of him. HOpefully he can pull a Paul Pierce and come back quickly from a harrowing situation like this. I wonder about this guys mental state though. 2 years ago his good friend dies in his arms, injuries and an acrimouniuios split from the donks, and now apparently beaten and robbed. That is a lot of junk to overcome, I hope for Javon’s and our sakes he can.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
bobby lane and snake didn’t make 50mil and cause the ticket prices to sky rocket.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
if he was found in the morning and his identity couldn’t be confirmed until afternoon, he must be pretty beat-up
June 16th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
dadadada brown. you’re a grade A certified moron. Even little children know it. Funny thing you keep coming back to embarress yourself time and time again.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
why? cause he has suffered through usually career ending inuuries and still shows up
June 16th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
why are we investing in guys that cant help themselves but piss their money away then get their ass kicked? nice one scouts!!!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
When Len Bias died the day he was drafted by the Celtics, the Celtics immediately said what a tragedy and wished his family the best. Larry Bird was more direct and said, “he was never a Celtic”.
Jevon Walker was never a Raider. He’s a Bronco. If he wanted to be a Raider, he should have been rehabbing.
CT RAIDER
June 16th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
he has made more plays for this team at wr than any other person on the roster
June 16th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
you’re right.. by not finishing routes when he was a bronco! hahaha
BTW: curry. How about curry against the broncos.
CT RAIDER
June 16th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Lets gets some more info before we start bashing Walker. Hate to think Raider Nation is Self Rightous Nation.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Ronald Curry is a motivated guy who by all means cud be out of the NFL. but he has kept bustin his ass and has skills
June 16th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
The Dude
June 16th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
My bad, didn’t know, i’ll try to read the other earlier post so i don’t repost the same idea.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
I dont hate walker i just think Ronald Curry cud develop into a go to guy
June 16th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
i became self righteous when he took all that money and decided he didn’t need to rehab. He came in over weight, slow, and he only did one practice a day. However, he feels good enough to hang out in Las Vegas. I don’t care why he was there… he shouldn’t have been. He’s done nothing but been a bad example since he came to camp. Of course, now that there is a tragedy (to a point), everyone will talk about how good he was and etc…. That wasn’t the story the last few weeks.
CT RAIDER
June 16th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
SouthDakota Killa #99 Says:
June 16th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
mistabrown is a punk..he pops in and jerks off on any post..what a loser..does he ever say anything from his own brain..i think not..just my stinkin opinion
Actually #99, almost all of us here share that same opinion. Sista clown has absolutely no integrity. And her posts are infintile and of little value. Here let me demonstrate:
Mistabrown Says:
June 9th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
LMN I didnt read your link but I did see Dakotas link you may want to include pictures if you want me to read..
Clown what are you 4 years old??????????????? Little tiny kids need pictures in their books for them to read. OMG. This guy is a grade A moron!!! You didn’t just spill your juice did you sistaclown???
June 16th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
OakGlenn all that work for no payoff…how long did it take you to find that ? I guess you think you made a point or were funny but I was being sarcastic..
yawn
June 16th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
post 98. darkhorse, I understand you wit Ronald Curry. It’s just that he’s been injured alot and isn’t really a deep threat, someone the J-russ needs. yes, he can go deep, but it won’t strike fear to our opponents. we need a randy moss who doesn’t have the same attitude or name as him. We also need someone who is young, so they can develop along with jAmarcus
June 16th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Judge me if you will, but it looks preetty clear to me… Who are we gonna depend on to be our go to guy at WR now…
June 16th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
yeh but who?
June 16th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Radrmystique Says:
June 16th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Lets gets some more info before we start bashing Walker. Hate to think Raider Nation is Self Rightous Nation.
…
dude..what information will make this story better..throw out the champagne..the money..the location..why is he not in alameda training..working out and practicing with russell..he barely practiced in the off season program..we arent self rightous..just practical..what more do we need to know..
June 16th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
I dont see anyone on the roster that makes me feel confident…
June 16th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Darkhorse
we’ll have to wait to find out. Also it has to be someone with good history, not someone like pacman or has major injuries.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
R.A.W: I agree with you but you also need a chain mover. We need more than a TE. Curry will be the slant with the other two taking off.
We need Curry but he is by no means a 1 or 2. But personally, in my posts when we signed Walker I didn’t think he was even a 3. A 2 on a bad team. I never liked him. HOnestly, watching the broncos and raiders have you ever once been scared before a game and said, ‘oh.. i hope we can contain walker”? I never did. I always felt Denver never had a receiver except a younger rod smith. My opinion. I thought walker was a waste from the beginning. I don’t wish any harm but if he misses the season it won’t hurt the raiders at all. Honestly, he wasn’t going to do anything.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Yeah, Jim CT, it’s not the same. But I think it’s DEMAND that causes ticket prices (and salaries) to go up. Much of the money comes from TV. And the higher the price, the more people want the tickets, and satellite dishes, and digital cable, and sports blogs, so why should they lower the price when fans just want MOOORRRE? Weird, huh? The price will go down when the fans don’t want football anymore. It’s US and our jones for the NFL that causes ticket prices to skyrocket. The players get their share.
Ironically, the Raiders were most successful when they drank together, we were a hard partyin’ club with a bunch of characters. It bonded them. This practice doesn’t stand a chance today.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
well the article that came out last week how he was focusing on getting ready for his old team is now kinda deflated. I loved hearing him talking to the media about how much he wants to beat denver and to put himself in the spotlight so and then this…. just hate the negativity after so many positives.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
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June 16th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
We didn’t have a dependable receiver to begin with. What’s the dude from Carolina? He’s the deep threat, Curry is the chain mover.. we’re done after that. Walker would have been a tease but never did anything. Now we may make a move to get a real player. Unfortunately, we ahve a lot of $ tied up in him.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
mistabrown..whatever you say..whenever you say..you will always be a punk..just do this..yawn
June 16th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
yeh but partying for them was that they did it together,.. i dont think ted hendricks ever had to worry about getting rolled in an alley cuz he had no other teammates watchin his back…
June 16th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
if there is damage to any of the cranial nerves – this injury can be devastating-
June 16th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
I agree FInzel but it was a different time. Can’t do that now. Like the commercial says (paraphrase), (my dad came to camp to get into shape, I get in shape all year round. 14 months a year! 15 in a leap year).. hahaha different time period because different money.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
DRRay… fill us in. I was impressed w/the question!
CT RAIDER
June 16th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
if it was 1970ish they wud roll in a bar together without deserting each other,…
June 16th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
may i take this opportunity to suggest signng Maria Sharapova…
she’s 6′1″… probably the best athlete available…
she will get the attention other #1 receivers only can dream of…
June 16th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
FPete: I want to play safety!
I read something that “kirk” said in the other blog…
I read that JeMarcus and Jevon were having a catch in the alley when JeMarcus hit him in the face with a pass. Knocked him out.
I thought it was funny but for the JW family, i apologize.
CT RAIDER
June 16th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Darkhorse, yer absolutely correct!!
June 16th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Jim you dont need to sign the bottom of your post we know its you.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
rofl, heh number 1 reciever huh…she might be too loose n worn out by week 1 against denver
June 16th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
cranial nerves ????
somebody say “cranial nerves”…
!
hahahahahahahahahahaha
stop it… yer killing me…
June 16th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
jim CT
I’m not dissin on Curry or anything like that, i think he’s a good slot receiver, its just this year’s free agent market was thin at the WR position, Walker was the only one we could grab. Also there were rumors that in the draft, the raiders traded up in the 4th round pick not to get branch but Mario Manningham who was pick right before the raiders at the end of the 3rd round by the giants. The raiders are trying to address this problem. We already have a “Culpepper” in J-Russ, now we need a “Moss”. also i think curry and miller are good “move the chain” reciever and TE. We also will be doing alot of screen passess to mcfadden and russell
June 16th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
This happened early in the morning and Adam Schefter didnt have anything on Total Access, funny!
June 16th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
if i had 16 million guaranteed i wudnt be at a club spraying strangers with champagne without friends w me.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
i mean lets just be serious.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
doesn’t matter. he’s gonna blow his knee out in the first game anyway!!!
June 16th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
thanks Mistabrown. it’s a lot of work.
ANQUAN BOLDIN IS HOLDING OUT… HELLO.. HELLO…HELLO
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June 16th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
i’ll be back tom. gotta get some sleep. only had bout 4hrs of sleep the past three days. Madden can get so addicting =)
June 16th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
so what is plan b now then?
June 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
you know how long it takes to find something stupid from sistaclown: that’s right, 2 seconds.
I appreciate the few of you guys who are saying don’t rush to judgement on Javon. You’re right about that. We do have two facts that are indisputable. First, Javon was involved in something very very bad with a prior team mate. Now, Javon after signing a major contract has had something else less then stellar happen.
Bottom line: the days when you could show up to games drunk as a player are over. I know it’s part of great Raider lore, but those days are now past. It is just too big money now to have to deal with this sh**. This sh** could ruin a franchise.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
R.A.W. You hit it on the nose… but if we were patient there are a million unhappy receivers. and to tie up that much money so we don’t have any options… is dumb. Walker is no Moss. I agree w/you on a CJ, Fitzgerald (who was unhappy), Boldin isn’t the deep threat but the carolina guy is. boldin is in between curry and carolina. but boldin is a beast to bring down. we jumped too quickly for junk.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
carolina = drew carter
June 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
so really what will be our x and y recievers?
June 16th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Oakglenn..
Without a doubt Javon should have used better judgment… and yes, we’d all love to think that these guys are working 24/7 on their craft. But reality is, they don’t. They’re human just like you and I and they have their issues and they make stupid mistakes.
Understand… I am not condoning Walkers actions… what-so-ever. I am simply stating that the reports are very sparse in details.
For instance…
What if Walker stopped by Vegas to let it loose before heading off to a serious off-season workout program. He parties hard and one of his buds drops him off outside his hotel. Some punks catch him outside, alone, and commit a crime of opportunity. Wrong place, wrong time.
If I was a detective, I’d be finding out who was at this place where he was splurging on the Dom… because it makes most sense that he was set up.
We just don’t know yet.
Hey, I’d much rather see Javon walking the straight and narrow. But something to think about… NFLn was running a spot all day today about the new youth facility, named after Darrent Williams, being opened.
Javon was in Vegas, at that same Tryst spot, partying when Williams funeral was being held last year. It sounds to me like this is how he deals with this type of stuff.
Not smart… just human…
June 16th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
teams will put 8-9 in the bow ever more
June 16th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
yeh you got a point
June 16th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
oakglenn: AMEN!!!!!!! In addition… he was f’n hurt and should have been rehabbing. My mom always said if you miss school you can’t go out.
Jevon’s mother should have said if you miss afternoon practice you can’t stay out all night.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Jr: where are you when i needed you? I used that on my ex (notice the word) ex all the time. hahahahhahahah
this is my last time hanging out after a softball game…. i had to get it out of my system..
ahjahhaa
June 16th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Sorry Jim I didn’t read your post 116. You’re exactly right.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Darkhorse; think about last year’s team. we had less weapons, no qb and we still ran.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
before i go, Jim CT. I’ll would like to remind you that
1. we have no threats at the WR currently what so ever
2. There aren’t any good receivers currently avaialble in the FA market
3. I’m begging Al to pull a D-hall trade with the Giants for Burress. I’m not sure if he is a deep threat, but he is a THREAT. We need to strike fear into opposing defenses with a deep threat so they won’t be stacking the box with 8 to 9 people.
I agree with D.Carter, but he is nothing until he proves it on the field. hopefully he does =)
i’ll be back tom.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
uh….
June 16th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
After all is said and done…the bottom line is clearly one thing: “We picked up a freaking idiot and Shanarat pulled a last second time out to beat us again.” Anyone who would blow $15,000.00 on Don Perignon Champagne to spray other people in a night club is out of his mind, has no value for money and will soon be broke like Mike Tyson. There are no excuses, “whatsoever,” for his actions and anyone defending him is blind and out of touch with reality. This is a sad day for Raider Nation.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Jr; i appreciate your human approach. You are wise and down to earth. ANything is possible/.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
i mean not to trade D-hall, but somewhat like that with a second round pick and next years (2010) third round pick like what he did wit the falcons. just giving you a heads up. now seriously gotta go, can’t even stand up now, so tired
June 16th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
JR I completely, totally agree with your post #137. You are completely, unequivocably correct with one exception: Walker already has one fatality around him.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
but last year nobody expected us to run,… who wuda thunk j fargas wuda had a 1k year. now everyone in our soft(thank you) schedule will be looking for us t run…. AD is already thinking about a way to bring in a wr
June 16th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
we need a primetime reciever worse than d-line.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
projects wont cut it, thts why the check was signed for walker in the first place.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
but who can we get and how much will it cost us….
June 16th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Darkhorse; Everyone expected us to run. WE had mcnown and culpepper as our qbs.
we ran from game 1 .. a lot.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
this is a very sad day for sure…
June 16th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
except walker is a project. look at his history… he’s only had 2 good years and 3 knee surgeries. How reliant is that>???
BOldin.. go after Boldin. Unfortunately, we may be at our limit.. we didn;t sign Namdi yet!
June 16th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
but we didnt start the season w fargas
June 16th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
hmmmm…
June 16th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Drew Carter
38 rec 517 yds 13.6 yds p/c 49long 4 tds
Jevon Walker
26 rec 287 yds 11.0 yds p/c 0 tds
reason for low numbers? JW hurt DC played behind Steve Smith.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Wow. Where is maddenloser in all this??? He was the one popping off about how the Javon signing would come back to haunt us. Oh right, today was the first day gays could marry in California.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
we started with Jordan leading the NFL in rushing after three weeks.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
michael bush I hope will surprise and open eyes
June 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
we just need alot of positive vibes and this is not one.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Question: I wonder how many Raider Jerseys of Darren MaFadden, or other Raiders, have to be sold to cover the cost of $15,000.00 in champagne (Don Perignon at that) just to spray other people in a night club? A waste of money, on a “wasted-individual.” Javon Walker, you’re an idiot and soon-to-be-a-broke-moron.” You couldn’t even come to camp at a decent weight and in shape. Now, you only have one-eye-ball.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
mb is a beast! that’s my quote for two years now. i watched him at Louisvile a lot. HE’S A BEAST. if we use him only on goal line and short ydg then we are wasting a major weapon.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
tht was ugly…. I know I am upset but tht’s just ugly.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Oakglenn…
If I was pressed, I’d say Javon has a problem with letting his partying get out of hand. There are some stories floating around out there that he does have a tendency to partake a little too much. I’d also think he’s not the most mature individual.
But I’m not quite sure the connection you are making to his involvement in the Darrent Williams murder. Are you saying he was at fault somehow? Or just that he should have learned from it and it should have woken his butt up?
Don;t know enough about the Williams case to offer much opinion in Walker’s involvement. But I do think that Javon, if he handled the horrific Williams incident properly, should have changed his lifestyle… at least to the extent of moderating his partying somewhat.
The deal is… we are all just speculating on a person we don’t really know. We have to go by news stories and rumors.
Hey… if my friend got shot and died in my arms, I’d be pretty messed up for a while. It wasn’t all that long ago.
Again… not condoning or making excuses… just offering some perspective.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
RR: he won’t be broke.. guaranteed money. (quite a bit of it). that’s why guarantees suck… players don’t care about playing.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
I have a feeling tht w MB n d4 and fargas we can get em all to produce. but we have to find a threat at wr
June 16th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
I know curry is injury prone, but dammit he has come back from several career ending injuries and just has that intestinal fortitude that we need more of.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
I have faith in him.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Jr: you’re very understanding and human. You make it difficult to be pissed off. When someone gets a lot of money the team should have someone there to keep them straight. YEs, Jevon is a veteran but still young (in the world not football).
June 16th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Walker will most likely be ready for the start of the season, but right now it looks like the most important person in the entire Raider franchise right now is James Lofton. Funny thing is I have infinite faith in James Lofton. Get Shelins, Shields or Todd Watkins ready. This is going to be an opportunity for someone!!
June 16th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
anyone remember that one handed catch from kerry collins in denver before th langston walker block? 2004
June 16th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
I appreciate it JR. Excellent perspective.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
WHat bothers me is Curry’s qbs have caused much of the injuries. He gets more “set up” balls then any other receiver in the history of football. If he had Moss’ alligator hands then he wouldn’t be hurt as much.
Have you guys watched curry get hit? he gets more helmet shots and wip lashes than i’ve ever seen before. A good qb wouldn’t set him up like that.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
darkhorse; hell yeah!
June 16th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
i hope the youth follows loftons direction and a guy blossoms, but i still think we need a big name player before camp starts.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
boldin.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
yeh but how many of those same crappy passes went to th likes of lames jett n got dropped
ronald curry mighta had some balls thrown high but he didnt give up on em. thats the dedication i wanna see
June 16th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
he has tht heart
June 16th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
eh boldin is available for a reason.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
we shudnt give a 1st round for tht
June 16th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
buress is a better idea
June 16th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
darkhorse: i agree. if he had a qb, his down time would only be a percentage of what it is. He and Wayne Chrebet (i watched all the jets because i lived in ct) were fearless over the middle. Chrebet took some shots but he did get low passes so he can get down.
COllins, tuiasasopo, brooks, walter, culpepper, mcnown, who else??? they lit up curry w/head hunting passes
June 16th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
burress drops a lot of passes. he has long arms and has difficulty on passes inside him. absolutely no separation speed. excellent int he red zone
June 16th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
it wud be nice to see lofton produce a game changing rookie out of this core of unknowns, but come week one we gotta have a guy to occupy bailey
June 16th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Jim is right, Anquon Boldin is just exceptional. Ron Curry is my favorite receiver as well. We’ll be alright. Someone is going to have to emerge tho.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
yeh chrebet took some bad hits catching penningtons bs
June 16th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
i always liked pennington though
June 16th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
he took alot of media hits bein in ny…. yeh jordan benefited well behind chad n curtis n never fulfilled as a raider. yknow cit wud be nice if we had robinson make a come back here, it wud come cheap
June 16th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
koren
June 16th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
minimum
June 16th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Jim post 168:
Mike Tyson, and many others, have had a 10, 20, times etc., more money than Walker and they’re broke. It’s the way you spend and value money. He probably blew 50 to 100 thousand for his weekend of partying, and who know how much he may have lost gambling. Also, the Raiders will have some protections in their contract with him. He can’t just go out and do whatever he wants, blowing an eye-socket, other injuries, maybe some to the same injured knee. No he’s not going to get all his guaranteed money with behavior such as this…at least I hope not. Hope the Raiders have some protections?
June 16th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
well we cud just try to play 2 te sets on third as well… but is shockey gonna cost us more than buress?
June 16th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
if shockey is healthy i think id rather have him than burress,… with mmadsen…yeh…
June 16th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
yeh i think walker has pretty much made pacman feel like an afterthought,… thgis is insane on a major scale and we will find out more disturbing facts in time. I wonder if the contract can decide some truths for us fans. heh I dont have a copy in front of me so…..lol
June 16th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
HE HAS NEVER PLAYED A DOWN FOR US SO ….????
June 16th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Jim…
>>>Jr: you’re very understanding and human. You make it difficult to be pissed off. When someone gets a lot of money the team should have someone there to keep them straight. YEs, Jevon is a veteran but still young (in the world not football).<<<
Thanks.
Reality is, this news hurt me more than pissed me off. Things were going so good for the Raiders. After the Kiffin/Ryan/Al almost-fiasco worked itself out, we’ve had some really great news streaming into Raiderland.
• Gibril Wilson signing
• Huff moving to FS
• DMac being drafted, then Signing so EASILY
• Walker signing
• Bush healthy
• JRuss taking his franchise status EXTREMELY seriously
… among others. It was really, really looking up.
If the Raiders didn’t cover their butts contractually, this could end up biting them hard. It’s possible that Javon may never play football again. Those eye injuries can be real serious. Even if Walker is lost just for this season, it’s gonna be tough for the Raiders to fill that spot. JRuss desperately needed a player like Javon to help him out in his development and learning curve.
That said… if Javon was out being extremely stupid… there’s plenty of time for me to get angry.
Right now, I’m just bummin’.
But hey, first and foremost, let’s just hope he makes a quick, full recovery. From a human AND football standpoint. And if he did do something stupid & immature, he takes it seriously and learns from this. Take it from me, sometimes it takes a kick to the head to wake some people up.
Gonna be interesting to read the news in the mornin though…
June 16th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
he was robbed. he didn’t do anything wrong (so far). He wasn’t riding a motorcycle w/o a helmet. He’s a victim. I’m sure being robbed isn’t being held against him in his contract. It is definitely what you do w/the money but he’s only had it two months.
by the way, i watched all the giant games (3 tvs in my raider room w/direct tv. 8 peeps come over weekly), but BURRESS HAS HAD A FEW MORE THAN 40 YARD PLAYS. I just looked it up. I don’t remember them but his stats show it.
I do remember him dropping a lot of passes, though, because of the length of his arms. can you imagine a Juss bullet?
June 16th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
riverside..what is your problem with javon having money..he can spend how he wants to..are you the watch dog of his money..and why cant he go out and spend his money..and have fun..are you a jealous fan..who cant acept his rich choice of champagne..you are the blog liberal here..show your true feelings and feel sorry for him..like your programmed to do..stop being a snake..and a typical hater of the color..
June 16th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Anybody know if this is the kind of behavior that could trigger a morals clause?
June 16th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
we don’t know what he did. someone talked about champaign but wasnt’ that made up here? He may have had a late dinner and gambled.
I WAS ON THE RIVER BOAT (ACTUALLY NEXT TO THE RIVER.. MISSISSIPPI IS TOO HIGH) about 2.5 hours ago. If i didn’t have to work i may still be there. I’m not doing anything illegal or immoral (except my thoughts w/the waitress).
June 16th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
The Raiders are going to have some MAJOR contingencies in any contract especially with someone like Walker. The very first thing you are told as a collegian is don’t embarrass yourself, don’t embarrass your family and don’t embarrass the institution. That’s the first thing you learn. It’s chilling that 7 years in the league and he STILL hasn’t learned that yet.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
honestly..i don’t wish him harm but this is a blessing in disguise. i don’t think jw is that good and now we have a few months to get a receiver rather than looking in october.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
i’m ticked that he missed practices but could hang out. Whether he did anything wrong is questionable but what he was doing isn’t what he should have been doing.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=williamson_bill&id=3427289
June 16th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
darkhorse: i jsut went to my local newspaper and read everythign. DUMB F!!!! He should be cut.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
darkhorse..al davis is a great owner and gm..he trusted javon word of dedication..work and..desire..what will al davis do..
June 16th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
i WAS SO HAPPY TO SEE HIM FIRE UP ABOUT “THAT TEAM” AND TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN IS EMMBARRASSING AND SADDENING, i HOPE HE IS O.K. BUT WE MUST LOOK FORWARD AND FIND SOMEONE NEW.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
RELEASE HIM TODAY!
June 16th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
YEH
June 16th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
he isnt a Raider til he plays a game right? (oh thts bad)
June 16th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Per Larry Bird anyway. that’s how i feel. I remember when he was holding out in GB for more money and then bitched at Favre for not standing up for him. THen they sent him to Denver where he wore out his welcome as well.
cut him
June 16th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
I wanna be non judgemental but its hard when 15 bottles of champayne are involved. its not like he was at church and had a bottle of wine break in his hands.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
I hope Al had some CYA in that contract. This could be a blessing in disguise. Al could cut him right away to make an example of an idiot.
If I was Al; I’d be HOT!
June 16th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
it wud be a lot easier to give the guy the benefit of the doubt if he was not spraying champagne at a high end club in vegas and at a charity function and the fruitpunch bowl dropped on his head
June 16th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
oh I am sure AD is way po’d
June 16th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
the more i think about the variables and possibilities the more i conclude tht walker made some really stupid moves
June 16th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
i know we need to wait for the facts but i am pretty upset.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
No doubt Javon got beat up pretty good. I guess we’ll hear his side of the story. This is going to be an opportunity for someone.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Oakglenn…
>>>It’s chilling that 7 years in the league and he STILL hasn’t learned that yet.<<<
You could very well be right. Maybe he DID do something to embarrass himself/team/family… maybe he hasn’t learned that lesson yet. But as of right now, we don’t know the facts. Frankly, what exactly do we know right now that he did to cause embarrassment for anyone?
We know he has an eye injury, we know he’s in the hospital in fair condition, and we know the cops think he was the victim of a robbery and assault. That’s pretty much about it.
Even the champagne story is just little more than an unsubstantiated rumor.
That said… he has shown he’s been in the wrong place at the wrong time before. He has shown he can be disgruntled with the team he plays for… hinting at immaturity issues. It’s pretty dang easy to draw conclusions to how that night went down. I’m right there with ya.
But to say what he’s learned and not, is a bit premature at this time. I’m gonna wait for whatever facts we get to come out before I start making defined and detailed judgments.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
rehab and this doesn’t happen. what if he got drunk and slipped and fell! wtf.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
oakglenn..whers is stupid mr..he has nothin good to say..lets hope he cant get out of the bathroom..
flushing is his primetime..
June 16th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
hey;; i just got out of the bathroom!
June 16th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
doubt it..
June 16th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
….
June 16th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Well, Mr. Walker certainly has dug a hole for himself.
Given the stuff he witnessed in Denver with his teammate losing his life in a drive by, you think he’d stay away from shady places and be home by 10pm.
At least this happened now rather during the season.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
JR we know he ended up knocked out on the streets of Vegas at 7 in the morning. From being up all nite. Hey, that’s embarrassing. And he’s had problems before. That’s embarrassing.
Killa #99 with regards to your post #224 see my post #160!
June 16th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
where were his friends
June 16th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
when u have that kinda money u become a target and the nfl has classes to let them recognixe tht. he mighta been upset over DW but this was unwise
June 16th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
am i the only person here who feels this way?
June 16th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
alot of you are so stupid. this guy gets whipped and left for dead but u blame him without knowing all the facts. who are any of us to say he cant go out. you think these guys are slaves where they just practice, workout and sleep all day. youre more concerned with not having a receiver than his health. we dont know how serious this is and players do have the right to have fun while waiting for the mini camps to start up. one more example of a black life being disposable in this country. typical fakeass LIBERAL bay area. i guess if he died some of yall would be happy that way al davis could use that money to get anquan boldin. lets wait for all the facts to come out. darrent williams got blamed for his death, house negro jason whitlock blamed sean taylor for his death before the facts came out and now walker is a spoiled rich brat who shouldve rehabed instead of livin his life gets blamed for this. since so many of u are so perfect get off ya ass and go play yourself since you such the role model. go show these youngstas how its done.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
no not at all. if i go out , and mind u i dont have 16 million in the bank, i go out with my friends and a group and we take care of each other. for this to happen t him he had to have been alone. he shud know tht as a high profile athlete he is a target. they teach trht when they are rookies to these guys.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
armond..right on..riverside raider is your target..he wants walker to sit every nite and do nothing ..with his new found wealth..
June 16th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
go party but cover ur fkn bases. c y a
June 16th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
yes,, should have rehabbed instead of been out all night. if he misses work he shouldn’t be out. raiders committed to him and he committed to buy 15k of champaign. real mature.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
i have no problem with th guy goin woohoo after signing 16 mill, but i think he cud have made some better decisions out gettin messed up.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
seriously, if you know that you are gonna get all drunk and twisted and u have 16 million, it doesnt take a whole lot to cover your bases so u can have fun without worrying .
June 16th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Oakglenn…
>>>JR we know he ended up knocked out on the streets of Vegas at 7 in the morning. From being up all nite. Hey, that’s embarrassing. And he’s had problems before. That’s embarrassing.<<<
Disagree. Simply being embarrassed, or doing something embarrassing can derive from two entirely different situations.
Being out ’til 7am partying is not embarrassing in itself. Depends on the situation. In this matter, you have a single man out enjoying himself. He wasn’t skipping camp or missing any football arrangements.
What embarrassing problems “from before” are you speaking of?
And there are also different levels of embarrassment.
Taking a gun to the airport is embarrassing. But it also can be an honest mistake.
Getting caught with a whizzinator at the airport is an embarrassment to the team/family/player all the way around. Not 0an honest mistake.
Don’t remember Javon being involved in anything like this. So… is this an honest, mistake? As in, something that could happen to a anybody in Javon’s situation?
We just know yet.
I’m not trying to be argumentative, I just think you are applying judgments that may not really fit this individual or situation… at least according to what I know of Javon’s past and the facts of this specific situation.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
maybe I am just too logical….
June 16th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
you don’t pay that money for any player. you pay it to someone who will dedicate themselves. Walker is not that kind of player. he wasn’t in gb/denver or in oakland. He was a scrub except for 2 years. it said. it is a good day for the raiders. now we can see the weakness w/o any illusions. bad day for walker, the young guy w/no discipline.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Just goes to show that we have another idiot on the roster who makes bad decisions and is still involved w/ stupid losers!! No wonder the Broncos kissed this guys ass good bye!!
He’s a fool!!!
Bring back J. Porter???
No Way!!!
June 16th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Fellas no one is saying he shouldn’t go out and party. No one is saying that. What we are saying is if he is prone to problems, which he apparently is, maybe he should do something different. For $50mil, maybe he should hire a body guard, or not be out ALL nite. This is the 2nd time that he is lucky to be alive.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
I don’t know, man. Fractured eye orbit? Dude might be pretty F’d-up.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
darkhorse..real logical..hahahah
June 16th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
porter doesn’t have heart. never went up for the ball (except twice w/succesful results last year. if we could have only inconvenienced him a few more times)
June 16th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
You guys need to stay out of Javon’s pocket let him do what he wants with his money. This man was mature enough to donate money to his former Broncos teammate boy’s and girls club charity when they need it. So if he wanted to waste a little let him. Whats $15,ooo when you have 16 million guaranteed. You need to wait till all of the reports come out. Or better yet wait till Javon makes his statement.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
I just have alot of concerns as too the situation itself and how he cud get beat up without someone around . It is not like he is some nobody, his celebrity dictates him to take more precautions. and especially after DW you wud think he wud be smarter.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Being out on the streets all nite in any city is not embarrassing. That’s fun. Being found by the cops unconscious on the streets of any city, is embarrassing. At least it would be to me.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
if i missed that much work and was ridicously over paid i’d feel badly and want to prove myself. Different generation. no one owes anything to me. remember him leaving GB after what 2 years and wanted a whole new contract. whatever.. he’s all about $ and couldn’t give a damn about anything else.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
i just have alot of questions
June 16th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
So m uch for ” What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas” Huh????
What the HELL was he doing giving away that stupid expensive champagne anyway???
What a FOOL!!
I say trade for O-C-H-O C-I-N-C-O !!!!
J/k……
June 16th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
darkhorse..you fooled everyone tonite..not me..
June 16th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
release him
June 16th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
who reported the 15 bottles of bubbly/
June 16th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
SouthDakota Killa #99 Says:
June 16th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
darkhorse..you fooled everyone tonite..not me..
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June 16th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
after work you can play but if you’re never at work because you’re hurt then you shouldn’t be out playing. i’m going to bed. we have different ethics and upbringings.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
i am not tryin t fool anyone,… i just wanna get to the truth of this crap and get beyond it so we can get back to the forward progression of this team
June 16th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
If this would have been DMAC…Everyone would be up in arms!!
I say STRIKE ONE for Walker!!!
Let’s see if he learns from this experience!!!
Please!! Dont be another PAC MAN!!!
We dont need that!!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
jim otto never had any excuses
June 16th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Just something I’d like to clarify…
The Dom spraying and the assault took place on TWO SEPARATE NIGHTS.
Saturday night was the champagne spraying incident… Monday he was found unconscious.
NOT likely they were connected…
>>>JAVON FOUND UNCONSCIOUS IN VEGAS
Posted by Mike Florio on June 16, 2008, 8:19 p.m.
As rumor has it, Raiders owner Al Davis thinks that receiver Javon Walker is the key to the team’s 2008 season.
If that’s the case, it might be time to start making plans for the first overall pick in the 2009 draft.
Walker, who has a bad knee that traces to a torn ACL in 2005, was found unconscious on a Las Vegas street on MONDAY MORNING, according to FOX 5.
He was taken to a nearby hospital, and is in fair condition with a fracture to an orbital bone.
Per media reports, Walker was seen on SATURDAY NIGHT spraying the crowd at Tryst night club with some of the 15 bottles of Dom Perignon champagne he had ordered.<<<
http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/
June 16th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
you dont know how and if he messed up. once again who are u to tell someone they dont have the right to party all night? how do you know he didnt rehab in the morning? is he suppose to call us and say ” hey this is javon yall, im done rehabbin can i party now?” or should it be “can i please go outta da house o massa sir?” thats what alot of you act like. these guys dont owe us $hit. he can afford to blow 15k on champaign so why do u care. i dont drink so i wouldnt do it but thats me. and he has committed to the raiders by showing up to practice and whatever meetings they had. where does it say be slave all damn day? also why is it that all these brothas that are being attacked have to get blamed before we even hear the whole story? u care more about how this hurts an already suspect wr corp than u do another mans health but so many of u act like the moral authority.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
orbital fracture wud heal in less than 4 months…
June 16th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
If this would have been McFadden…Alot of people would want to hang Al Davis from his BALLS!!
…..Not that they dont want to already!!! lol!!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
257..259..if it looks like a duck..walks like a duck..then it has to be a–?
June 16th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
i am just sayin he shud have had someone watchin his back
June 16th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Wow. nfl fans are somehow even more retarded than the general population. Blaming dude when the only piece of reliable info to come out so far is a police report in which he’s named the victim. So the victims of 9/11 actually were idiots because they put themselves in position to be killed by living in a country targeted by extremists? Because that’s what you’re saying, C unT jim, dick horsef ukker, and the rest of you moronic sacks of dung. Here’s to all of you JW-bashers getting robbed, stabbed, and shot. Cheers!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Just when we all thought it was going to be a quiet news cycle until training camp. I’ll just say this. I bet most of y’all who are defending Javon called Big-Ben an idiot after his accident. You ask me, they’re both dumb as dirt
June 16th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
common sense to not get into a negative situation when ur a raider,…
June 16th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
I guess Javon thinks he’s p-diddy NOW!!
What a joke!!!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
qbanis get off welfare and get a job. take your “i’m owed this so i can party.. all about me” no handed receiver with you.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
its poor judgement. and thats a fkn fact… they shud realize after the vick episode to keep a lowprofile,… hey go have fun but dont do it stupid,…they have enuf money they cud rent the pres. suite n have it catered and have security n everything. when you have just signed a contract for 16 million you really cant act like ur another face in th crowd,… u become a target and gotta make some modifications to ur life n be more cautios.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Straight up TRADE………….
Javon Walker for OCHO CINCO???
Would the Bengals go for it???
Who knows??
June 16th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
or become a victim n wonder why
June 16th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
i dont want chad…
June 16th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
are u really comparing not wearing a helmet while riding a bike to a guy left for dead without knowing any facts? that is the stupidity im talkin about. if javon was set trippin oh excuse me flashin gang signs and this happened then id say he brought it on himself. since that hasnt happened and we dont know what has im not blamin him. we know ben rode a motorcycle WITHOUT a helmet so whats your point?
June 16th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Ok the question is this, people complain when players /actors /entertainers travel with a posse . So what is the right number of people to bring with you when you go out on the town. It seems like you are a marked man if you do or don’t. Look at the trouble you get into when you travel with a posse like Ray Lewis or Pacman. You travel solo then you become a target?
June 16th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Darkhorse….
Very True….He’s lucky he’s not DEAD!!!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Maybe just a one time incident!!!
I’m sure the Raiders will get to the bottom of things.
It’s a wait n see game now!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
A blowout fracture is a fracture of the walls or floor of the orbit. Intraorbital material may be pushed out into one of the paranasal sinuses. This is most commonly caused by blunt trauma of the head, generally personal altercations. The term “blow out fracture” was coined in 1957 by Smith & Regan,[1] who were investigating injuries to the orbit by placing a hurling ball on cadaverous orbits and striking it with a mallet. The force of a blow to the orbit is dissipated by a fracture of the surrounding bone, usually the orbital floor and/or the medial orbital wall. Serious consequences of such injury include diplopia (double vision)on downward gaze if there is damage to the floor of the orbit.
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This guy could be gone. Raiders can’t seem to catch a break.
This guy needs to stay out of nightclubs. He has been involved in shootings and now this. He is going to get himself killed.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Instead of messing everybody up all around him with shaken high end champagne and, no doubt pissing a lot of people off for no good reason, he would have been better advised to spray everybody with $20’s.
Young people with this level of available cash rarely use good common sense. We see it all the time with highly compensated athletes. At least they didn’t hose up his extremities.
The NFL needs to step in and provide guidance, via mandatory mentoring classes, on how and what to look out for now that they have all this readily available cash.
I hate to say it but he probably got what he was asking for by acting like a spoiled a$$hole with too much available cash. Like they say, you can burn the flag but don’t be surprised if a group comes up and kicks your a$$ for doing so. Every action generates reactions.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
why do yall hold athletes to a higher set of standards than u hold yourselves? i bet some of u have and still do all kinds of bull$hit. and dont give me this they know better crap cuz yall will pay 10 dollars to go see a movie filled with idiots that do the same ish!!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
This whole thing blows. I’m still not mad about the signing but I’m ready to trade for one of the top WR’s if possible. I think Shanahan is the culprit and should be questioned.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
i HAVENT MADE MY MIND UP YET IN ALL HONESTY, i AM TRYING TO GET TO SOME TRUTH AND HAVE MANY IDEAS. THATS ALL..
June 16th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
armons..nfalls has no life..so others should follow his lifestyle..he is so quick to judge..just like the hickseed he is..
June 16th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
i DONT HOLD HIM TO ANY STANDARD THAT I WUD MYSELF.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Guess what? JW will ALWAYS be richer than you. Hurts, huh, C unT? You make it quite obvious in your lazy and uninformed posts.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
WUDNT
June 16th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Armond you are correct in the fact that yes, Javon doesn’t owe any of us sh**. But if someone hands me $20mil I owe them something. And one of the things I owe that organization is NOT to read about me in the paper with my face all busted up and my career in jeopardy because I was out effing around. Hey, if I want to eff around all day and all nite, and I do, then I’m NOT gonna sign a 20 million dollar guaranteed contract. Then I can do whatever the eff I want. When you sign a 20 million dollar contract someone does own you. Get it.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
hes been in 1 shooting and now hes been in shootings. man u keep this up and youll be working for fox news.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
wHOEVER WANTS TO JUSTIFY 15 BOTTLES AT A BAR SPRAYING STRANGERS WITHOUT SOMEONE WITH YOU TO WATCH YOUR BACK IS JUST ASKING FOR IT PERIOD….
June 16th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
IF I HAD 16 MILLION I CUD BUY THE CLUB FOR THE NIGHT N TH SECURITY GUARDS TOO AND WUD MAKE SURE IF I WAS GETTIN A LITTLE CRAZY N DRUNK THAT I HAD SOMEONE TO TAKE CARE OF MEY B
June 16th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
HIS TRACK RECORD DICTATES OTHERWISE… ITS A POOR JUDGEMENT CALLL, WHO CANNOT SEE THAT?!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
I’m not upset with the guy for going out. He is free to do what he wants. However, he wasn’t on his way home from Church when he got robbed. He put himself in a situation that came with bad consequences.
It is sad for the Raiders. They seem to be jinxed lately.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH HIM HAVIN A GOODTIME, BUT BE SMART
June 16th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Maybe I’m wrong but my understanding of the current NFL contracts you have to make the team before you have a contract. This dummy going out and putting the Raiders in trouble is enough for me not wanting him on the Raiders. Let him go to camp and bust his ass then cut him………We need people who can think.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
I guess after the VICK fiasco…….it makes sense when owners want guarantees from players that they will have to return part of the signing bonuses when they F’ up!!
Why would’nt they want to protect themselves???
June 16th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
IMAGINE IF HE GOT KILLED,… I KNOW THTS A WORSE CASE SCENARIO, BUT SOUNDS LIKE IT CUD HAVE HAPPENED GETTIN ROLLED LIKE HE DID.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
you all know how the media is waiting for any crumb of dirt to hate on us.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Darkhorse…
>>>its poor judgement. and thats a fkn fact… they shud realize after the vick episode to keep a lowprofile,… hey go have fun but dont do it stupid,…they have enuf money they cud rent the pres. suite n have it catered and have security n everything. when you have just signed a contract for 16 million you really cant act like ur another face in th crowd,… u become a target and gotta make some modifications to ur life n be more cautios.<<<
Again… not to harp on this, but we don’t really have any facts what-so-ever as to why Javon was, supposedly, out alone on that street.
We are drawing our conclusions from a few tiny blurbs. Nothing substantial at all as to the actual events of the assault.
Remember, we’re talking Vegas here. I’m sure it would not be difficult for a thug/crook to make Javon as someone with money… without Javon having flashed a single dollar.
Since the Dom sparying and the assualt took place on two different nights, I’m thinking it was more a crime of opportunity. 90% wrong place, wrong time… 10% bad judgment being out unprotected. Hell, how many of us has stepped out for a smoke alone, or to get something from the car, or for simply for some fresh air?
Could be a hundred different reasons Javon was out there and vulnerable… and none have to do with bad (stupid) judgment.
Crime of opportunity makes as much sense as anything else… especially in Vegas.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
pinole…..
Can the Raiders just cut him??
After all, he did not get hurt in practice!
Man, that guy may have just ruined his career!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
LOL – ONLY been in one shooting? WTF kind of statement is that? Who cares if its 1 or a 100. You must have low expectations. You must be a thug.
That’s like saying, “Hey, I’ve ONLY been to prison once!”
Dude puts himself in bad situations, PERIOD.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Why would anybody be chilling alone in Las Vegas? Thats one broken rule if you ask me. Was he partying by himself or what?
June 16th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
What you guys here are saying is exactly right. No one is saying don’t party. What they are saying is be smart. You walk around with 40 grand in chains someone is gonna roll ya.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
I’d be surprised if there weren’t something in his contract that makes him responsible for the loss of his services if it was a result of his bad actions. The organization, the Raiders in this case, have to protect their investment – rightfully so.
We haven;t heard the end of this…
June 16th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Hopefully the Raiders have a clause in the contract that will enable them to cut ties with Walker and save face. Shanahan is gettin the last laugh on this one. I don’t like it one bit.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
If it comes out that Javon was at fault……and thats a big IF…..
I say the Raiders CUT BAIT with him!!!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
JR,… i agree, but it is still very very disappointing. I am gonna withold judgement but this is all still speculation
June 16th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
and thats wht blogs r fer
June 16th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Here’s to Mike Tyson eating your C unTy children too.
The facts aren’t in, period. Hold your inconsequential judgments.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
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June 16th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
heh, I guess I have gotten pretty expectant of the worst when the media posts raider news
June 16th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
This must have been started by the curse of Jerry Porter. Everyone stay away from the #84. Walker first wore it when he got here and later changed it.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
oakglenn did read all of my post? why do u continue to say its his fault without knowing all the facts? if he did what i suggested such as set trippin we are in agreement. where does goin out and spillin champaign if thats true have to do with what happened? hasnt he gone to the otas? also get off that money crap. you have time on your hands on days off and money to do stuff so now to please u he has to stay in cuz of the money. give me a break. u know damn well youre not staying in the house after signing a 20 mill contract. nobody is. yeah a single man with millions on his DAY OFF will sit at home ALL DAY and ALL NIGHT to please us. hell u wouldnt be on this board right now if u had a 20 mill contract and youd dare someone to say something about. now do YOU get it. also nobody owns anyone. if the raiders are unhappy theyll do what teams do, cut him. if he dont wanna play he can quit.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Oh, I’m sorry. Javon Walker is soooo famous. He’s a freakin household name. Dude, If he was walking down the street, no one would know who the hell he is. I’ll bet you dollars to donuts he was doing some STUPID, ostentatious. “Notice me” B.S. that singled him out. And, if he was, then he deserves what he got. Just like the idiot QB deserved to go through that old hag’s windshield.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
this comes as a ugly report though and in a way i feel i shud say R.I.P. tim russert. not a raiderfan, but true blue for the bills
June 16th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
dont know why tht crossed my mind
June 16th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
YEA……
RIP..Tim Russert!!!
That dude was way COOOOL!!!
I’m going to miss him on NBC..Sunday mornings!!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
heheh he was a diehard bills fan,… went to woodstock with a case of beer and a bills jersey,…. poor guy,…RIP TIM RUSSERT
June 16th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
The facts aren’t in yet…
After partying all night in Vegas, Walker was on his way to the church to donate money to orphans, then he would make his way to help his poor sick mom who needed an operation.
But as he stopped to help the little old lady across the street, after just finishing getting that kitten out of the tree, he was mugged by some minions of Satan out to stop this saint from continuing his heavenly work.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
his son is an intern for the p.t.i show on espn
June 16th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
hhahhahahahahahahahah
June 16th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Agree 100% Darkhorse. Extremely disappointing. Regardless of any fault of Walkers… looking at it from strictly from a football standpoint…this could be very bad juju for the Raiders. We may have just lost our #1 WR for the year… possibly worse.
Monetary consequences could be dire all by itself.
Like I said before… here’s to a quick and complete and full recovery for Walker.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
yeh walker got rolled by cubscouts on the way t church….
June 16th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Just added a new member and new Raider fan to the family….my son eddie!!! and I look up to T. Russert as a real FATHER!!
That guy had LIFE by the BALLS!!!
RIP…TIM!!!!!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
thts bad i shudnt even say tht
June 16th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
At least it gives us something to talk about. It’s been real boring lately with no new Raider news. Of course, good news would have been a better note to dwell on.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Armond, I have never said it’s his fault. What I have said is this is the 2nd time he’s lucky to be alive. You’d think he would have learned the first time. What do you mean get off the $$$ crap. If he was me or you no one would give a flying fook. The ONLY reason ANYONE cares is the $$$. Someone invested a ton of jack into that guy and he’s out cold on the streets of Vegas like a empty Coke can. And let me tell you, if I had 20 mil I’d be in Monaco or Saint Moritz not some slab club in Vegas.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
i got back in town earlier today n just found out like 6pm,… i was crushed and in disbeleif, then this breaking news about walker,…sheesh
June 16th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Russert was a true bills fan,… heh at least us raider fans have a sb win t cheer about(3) he was through thick n thin
June 16th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
I am truly upset by his death,… he was a genuine guy.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
At least CWood did his stupid shhh… in Oakland.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Darkhorse…..
I hear his book “Big Russ and me” is a real good read!!
Have you read it??
Is it any good??
June 16th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
As fans we shud all be thankful for guys like him.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
no but i shud
June 16th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
ill put it down on my list
June 16th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
There was a kool nfl presents on the buffalo bills tht i saw n was kool not tht long ago
June 16th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
YEA..You got that right….
Man, and he passed on the eve of Fathers Day!!
What LUCK!!!
The man was AWESOME!!
I wish he was a Raiders fan though!!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Facts are in!
A hotel camera apparently caught the whole assault.
Javon Walker, alone, was out spraying champagne at a group of gang bangers with an open briefcase full of C-Notes at his feet. Audio from the recording could pick him up screaming… “I’ve got millions chumps! You ain’t got ****!”
June 16th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Jerry needs to dig deep into Walker’s contract and find any conditions for his release in the event of bad behavior, I am sure there is protection.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
tribute to his dad eh
June 16th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
friday the 13th… man
June 16th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
yes!!
Tribute to his his dad and eventually his son as well!!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
South Dakota killa…post 201:
Evidently you can’t read moran…I couldn’t care less how he spends his money. I stated that many people who spend there money foolishly end up broke. Mike Tyson use to make over 100 million per year and he’s broke. When you spend $15,000.00 to spray Don Perignon champagne on other people on a dance floor bar, you’re an idiot and you’re spending your money stupidly. And, whats more stupid than that is spraying people he he may not know (I don’t believe he knew everyone) and that puts you in “jeopardy.” He could have pissed someone off, he could have ruined a womans dress and that pissed her and her boyfriend, husband, etc., off and they got even…who knows. Why place yourself in jeopardy…people are crazy out there. It’s the same thing as giving the finger to someone who cut you off on the freeway and then he pulls out a gun and starts shooting at you.
Hey, I hope he’s not seriously hurt and I hope he can perform and produce for us. My first concern is for our Raiders. And, I have the right, like all of us to express my opinion. Which is: “He acted like and idiot and if he spends money that foolishly, he’ll be broke soon…period. Go Raiders.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
u know wht nfl presents episode im talkin about?
June 16th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
K-ROCK are u stupid or racist? u sayin i must be a thug and have low expectations cuz i said hes been in one shooting? a pastor walking home from church is involved in a shooting if some thugs did a drive by. do we blame the pastor for walking home or the thugs that shot him? the shooting he was involved in was that bs darrent got killed in. now are u sayin since that incident in which he and darrent didnt have a gun or even provoke the fight is now a bonefide thug? you dont have to shoot someone to be in a shooting jackass. and yes there is a difference between
1-100 when u have been in 1 in which U ARE A UNARMED VICTIM. the poster said he was in more. yall are more concerned with cutting him without knowing everything and hes suppose to be one of ours. as i said another disposable black life and yall suppose to be the liberals!!! now thats funny!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
yup riverside
June 16th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
not good judgement…
June 16th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
This guy is not a rookie. He’s been in the NFL seven years. When you sign a contract for big money big things are expected from you. Your team and the fans deserve better. If you can go after M Vicks bonus money the Raiders should be able to get money back. Just leave him in Las Vagas as an example for college teams to show what dummys do.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
stay tuned,… the facts will come out in time,… but the initial view is extremely skeptical…..
June 16th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
pinole…
The Raiders could just cut him!!
They have not paid him that money yet!!
It’s just a contract!!!
They dont pay future earnings up front.
He might be screwed!!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
i am sure right at this moment he is wishing he made a few better decisions…. not sitting theere feeling like a victim
June 16th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
he is prolly goin over things wishing he made better decisions…
June 16th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Well,
If there is a silver lineing anywhere…..maybe the rest of the team including DMAC and JRUSS will avoid future mishappennings like this!!
Maybe they will learn from someone elses mistakes!!!
That is…if Javon was at fault, anyway!!
June 16th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
yeh u got a point
June 16th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
this cud be a situation that they see as a possibilty and avoid it better w more concern.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
sorry but after reading the first 20 or so messages i had to skip to the end and say Darkhorse and some others are freakin idiots. He was at the Wynn, most of you losers couldn’t get in the front door. it’s not like he was at the scummiest ghetto dive in town. Javon is a Raider and i would think you guys would at least pull for him. oakglenn said he should be judicious as to where he hangs out-it was the Wynn- yeah maybe y’er right, he should stay indoors and not enjoy any of that money.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
u know the org is on top of it right now,… trying to dissect wtf happened.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
i have been t the wynn. its exclusive but people there are still peopple.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
oakglenn u proved my point. u would be in monaco no doubt but youd still be out. u mean to tell me u cant get mugged in monaco? as for nobody caring about u or me with that money it doesnt matter because if u only care about him cuz hes a football player then u dont care about him at all. which is why i dont get mad when these guys have their fun cuz at the end of the day most of u dont even like these guys outside of the game. lets be honest only a few people are waiting to see if he did do something to cause this. most of u are speaking of cutting him or saying what he did without now his side or anyside for that matter. so why should these guys listen to us. theyre just replaceable to u. also why wont anyone answer to another disposable black life? there is too much comfort with him getting mugged in here.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
you are entitled to your opinion.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
The comfort comes from knowing none of his team mates were there. The guy obviously runs with the wrong crowd, it don’t matter if he is black, white , or green, he got what he deserved.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Jerry, the media’s making this all up. It’s all conjecture. The Vegas PD is in on it. They’re Raider haters, too.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
I dont make millions of dollars , but when i go out n party i go with people who r my friends. I know when you go a club that things happen and try to avert drama. buying 15 bottles of dom n spraying it on strangers is not kool or lowprofile.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Eyepatch, what’s your problem with black people?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:00 am
creating too much attention n pissed off the wrong person, … u know tht dealers n pimps make money too n hang out there as well… the wynn isnt some catholic club for privileged politicians… its not tht fkn exclusive
June 17th, 2008 at 12:01 am
in fact he cuda got rolled up by a white lawyer who was upset over him hittin on his wife
June 17th, 2008 at 12:02 am
I’ve been to Vegas and there is a reason why they ask $100 cover charges at some of the clubs, to try and keep the thugs out.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Armond, of course K Rock is racist. So is eyepatch. If Javon were white, they’d have his back right now, talking about how he’s a Raider and Raiders party and that’s the way it is. But Walker’s black, so he’s a thug hanging out with the wrong crowd. Their double standard is blatant and transparent. They think they’re fooling us. They’re pathetic.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:02 am
u take things outta context n make it a race issue is bs? i thought we were passed that
June 17th, 2008 at 12:03 am
what other team has better race issues
June 17th, 2008 at 12:03 am
darkhorse what does that mean? if people are still people and u acknowledge its exclusive then how could he be at fault so easily? PDX thats what ive been sayin. how many of us would be on this board bitchin if WE had that money for our careers? yall will spend 100s of dollars to go see a band full of drug addicts and womanizers that show up late,cancel shows, get rude with fans and so on but you talk all this ish about pro ballers. please!!
June 17th, 2008 at 12:03 am
MR whats your problem with black people?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:03 am
who hasn’t got drunk and high and acted foolishly. doesen’t mean you asked for it any more than a woman in a sexy outfit asks to get raped. the only way Walker is responsible is if he started a fight. why the hell would you want all that money if you couldn’t go a little crazy. for all you know he invest his money very wisely and you can get rolled anywhere. ie:S.Taylor did he ask for it?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:04 am
i am trying to keep an open mind,..
June 17th, 2008 at 12:05 am
He sounds like Pacman all over again, Carter and Curry are gonna beat him out anyway.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:05 am
“Javon Walker, alone, was out spraying champagne at a group of gang bangers with an open briefcase full of C-Notes at his feet. Audio from the recording could pick him up screaming… “I’ve got millions chumps! You ain’t got ****!””
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LOL! Is that really what happened? You have to be joking. If it was, that’s great. Javon’s definitely a Raider.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:05 am
we have no clue what happened but this is a blog, and we can only talk upon ourselves til we have more info,…. i havent formulated any true feeling yet,..i am just wondering aloud, here as t what happened
June 17th, 2008 at 12:05 am
Eyepatch, don’t throw it back at me. I’m giving Javon the same space I’d give any Raider, white or black. You’re being harsh on Javon because he’s black. You’re a racist dick.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:08 am
just looks bad, can we agrree on that til the facts come out?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Javon’s a Raider, and Raiders party. This could have happened to the Tooz. Probably did, several times. But do Eyepatch and K Rock have a problem with that? No. Cause Tooz was a “good guy”. He was just “misunderstood”. That’s a fancy way of saying, “TOOZ IS WHITE”.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:08 am
I said I don’t care if he is black, white or green read you idiot. He is a bad apple and just proved it.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:10 am
color has not a thing t do w it…
June 17th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Tooz never got rolled leaving a bar lol.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:11 am
Eyepatch and K Rock like negros to be quiet and only speak when spoken too, like how OJ was when he was playing. And, we all now how OJ wound up. OJ was your guy’s perfect uncle tom when he was playing. He was everything racist whites like K Rock and Eyepatch would want out of a colored athlete. Racist whites know how to pick ‘em, don’t they? Muhammad Ali never killed his wife. That’s all I gotta say.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:11 am
MR its funny eyepatch says they charge so much at the door to keep the thugs out. its funny because the real thugs run vegas and they dress in nice itallian suits and come in white skin but we dont dare blame them for attracting the mob in there now do we. darkhorse the race is an issue cuz no one will answer americas need to disregard a black life even without proof that a brotha was wrong. none of us consider javon a thug and yall know when he was with denver yall thought he was soft so dont lie. there is no proof he hangs with the wrong crowd and he never had that rep. vick was one thing but javon, come on. and darkhorse america aint never came close to being over race but i hear what u tryin to say tho.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:11 am
Maybe i’m a psycho fan but, i’ll back Javon until i know better. until he plays like A. Dorsett, acts like Canseco, disses the Yay area like Giambi or does prove to be a thug, he’s a Raider and i have to be on his side.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:15 am
Al Davis isnt about race is what I am saying… We as A NATION shud be over race too. I am . I am american Indian and still racsism but not inside the NATION>
June 17th, 2008 at 12:15 am
How many people have their best friend die in their arms from a gunshot? And he doesn’t run with the wrong crowd, please wake up.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:16 am
The NATION!!!!
June 17th, 2008 at 12:16 am
I’m white but, i’d prefer to stay away from the deliverance section that eyepatch sits in at games. i’ll be in the AC/DC section. all colors welcome.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:16 am
MR is the only one bringing up race as an issue and nobody is taking the bait.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Eyepatch, you know I’m just messing with you, don’t you? Not K Rock though. I think he is a little bit racist. He’s too right wing not to be.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:16 am
We Shud all stand for each other even when we make mistakes.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:17 am
especially when we make mistakes.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:18 am
They’ll just split McFadden out wide more now and bring in Bush.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:18 am
Isn’t that what the Nation is about, diiferent cultures, different colors, different walks of life, but untied under that silver and black flag
June 17th, 2008 at 12:18 am
united*.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:19 am
Armond, Eyepatch isn’t a racist. He just watches too much tv. That’s the problem. The only image white people get of black people is from BET. They think every black guy has gold teeth and is sporting bling. Do you realize BET is now a white owned station? Has been for almost a decade. The only representation black people are getting is from a venue owned and operated by whites. When you consider that this representation is filled with mostly negative, it’s an ugly scenario.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:19 am
That is my feelings… we are all brothers on Sunday…lol
June 17th, 2008 at 12:20 am
if you had that money there’d be guys after you too. people at the Wynn are people too, but if you’re a thug running with the wrong crowd you don’t go looking for trouble there-you just don’t.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:20 am
….)0
June 17th, 2008 at 12:21 am
There’s not enough diversity. Diversity isn’t just numbers. It’s communication. Too many white parents are sending their kids to private schools with no minorities. We’re seeing the first generation go into adult hood and it’s not pretty. It’s creating a society where we’re going backwards with race.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:22 am
Where he went doesn’t matter. If it was high ended and most of us couldn’t get in or not…means nothing. What matters is where he ended up. Passed out in the street and badly beaten. He placed himself in jeopardy, and that stupid. Also, when he placed himself in jeopardy by doing stupid things…he shows that he has no “respect” for his team or team mates. Where does his responsibility end?
If he’s paid big bucks, and he excepts the big bucks, and he has a contract that holds him to a high standard of performance, then he has an obligation to do his best to live up to those terms and agreements. Coming into camp out of shape and over weight and then this incident…that’s suspect anyway you want to analysis
it. It “SUCKS,” and it’s a distraction for everyone on the teams, including the coaches and people of the Raider Nation.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:22 am
vegas has higher rollers than some athlete acting like a badass w 16 mill. there are sharks who can end ur world over an eyeglance without hesitation.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:22 am
People, People!! Anybody here ever go to Vegas and get really, reeeeaally ripped? Of course, many of you have. Whether he had a blue-collar $500 bankroll, or a rich man’s $50,000 wad, he had the right to go party on his vacation. He had the right to stay up all night, and he had the right to go anywhere he wanted — whether he was being smart about it or not (and we still don’t know how he got where he ended up).
Other than assuming he was doing something stupid, I’ve got no other reason to think he was anything but a victim at this point. A stupid victim, knowingly putting himself in a bad situation? Maybe, but I hope not.
As for the $15,000 tab for 15 bottles of Dom Perignon — the rumor mill is running wild, folks. Assuming he was spraying the crowd (if he did this) with “standard” Dom, his bill for 15 bottles would’ve been more in the $2,000 range — a far cry from $15K.
The best news here is that Walker’s alive. Not knowing how his knee/s are for a few days is a huge concern. If the eye heals, he’ll be good to go.
That TE that was cold-cocked by the idiot Romanowski didn’t lose his job because of his eye injury, he wasn’t good enough, regardless. (Romo ended up settling with him for something like $400K for the punch and the lingering after-effects.)
June 17th, 2008 at 12:24 am
I watched Tiger win millions and I bet he does not wind up on the Vegas strip with pimps throwing prostitute card decks at him. Walker just keeps choosing to hang around the wrong kind of people. Race has nothing to do with it.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:24 am
i am glad this isnt worse than it is.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:24 am
darkhorse ill give u credit for not gettin to carried away even tho we disagree however dont u find it strange that people are already talking about cutting him without even knowing the facts? the man is in a hospital bed trying to recover but THEY want to cut him. doesnt that bother u as a human being. its funny how jeremiah wright is called a racist for “americas chickens coming home to roost” comment about 9/11 which killed people of all races yet javon is to blame for being mugged without knowing the facts. just as darrent was at fault for getting shot UNARMED and s.taylor was at fault for someone breaking into HIS house. BTW MR, they also like their negros like jason whitlock who is always out to bash his own people just like his buck dancin ass article on sean taylors death before the police report came out.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:25 am
yeh when tiger rolls he has a security team around him 12 deep. he has a blanket around him .
June 17th, 2008 at 12:26 am
it does bother me but i try to look at peoples perspective and can see why.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:27 am
“A fractured orbital bone?” How is that going to affect his vision? Did he also suffer a detached retina? Was the orbital bone fracture a “blow out” fracture (?), where the eyeball herniates through the back of the eye socket through the fragile bone that make up the back of the eye socket. I hope it is the frontal bone or zygomatic bone, those two are exterior bones and have a much better prognosis for full recovery.
If he were “spraying people” with alcohol, it is safe to say he imbibed some. So a filthy rich drunk guy, that is pretty wasted gets mugged. With the 16 mil. he should have had enough to pay for a limo drive back to the hotel. Damn it!
Why does Al Davis keep purchasing seriously injured players for above market value, and hope they produce?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:27 am
as fans we want the best to do the best all the time
June 17th, 2008 at 12:27 am
MR- very few white people can afford private schoolin(personally my son will get season tkts. first). But if i had the money my boy would go to private school for better education, smaller class size and all that shi*, what better way to invest in your childs future. But Darkhorse is right about one thing-everyone at the games are my nation-in Black of course.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:28 am
seems like curry has to be the one to lead the team in rcpts along with miller, drew carter and JHL better be step the fahq up
June 17th, 2008 at 12:28 am
All of the racism we see today is coming from a place with little to no diversity.
Don Imus: Maybe like what, one black intern in the building? Think he would say “nappy headed ho” at a party in Harlem? It’d be his last party.
The bounty hunter with the ridiculous mullet, and the wife with the huge fake jumbos: Again, no blacks. He’s in Hawaii most of the time anyway. But now we know why, considering his views on blacks. This guy has no black friends. Why does he think he has to use the “N word? That’s what he says to his son in that taped conversation. Says he has to use that word. He wouldn’t think this way if he had black friends. Real black friends, that visit him.
Kramer from Seinfeld:
Again, no black friends. He’d know you just can’t go there, man. I know he was being heckled but if he had black friends, he wouldn’t have done that.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:28 am
to cut him on this ….no i dont think thts smart or wise. but to have him blow up in gb then denver n get th big money,….legally might be worthwhile. but i say give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:28 am
Al keeps signing players to win and money is not much of an issue with an uncapped season looming.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:30 am
No diversity, PDX. Rather it’s your intention or not. Your kids will grow up sheltered from the real world. Whenever they see a group of blacks, they’ll think they’re going to be robbed. Your kids will grow up being racist little assholes. They won’t respect you no matter what. White kids today think their parents are a joke. But you don’t want them to have a lack of respect for everyone in society, do you?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:31 am
Well, I am not Black but being an american indian isnt exactly operandis mundi
June 17th, 2008 at 12:32 am
life is tough for all minorities bro
June 17th, 2008 at 12:33 am
PDX, do you think sending your kids to private school will make them better people? Sure, they’ll be better at math and they’ll memorize more quotes. They’ll still get their asses kicked by the Chinese in the job market. And they still won’t respect you. They’ll also be racist little pricks. Don’t let it happen. Make a difference, PDX.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:34 am
The Raiders probably got a break with this happening, he could have gotten a public drunk and been suspended its safe to say. He had to be drunk to get rolled that easily.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:34 am
thers plenty of racist black and white, fak them. Imus, Rev. Wright i hope none of them are Raiders fans.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:35 am
eyepatch what people do you know he hangs around?sayin people dont die in your arms without being in the wrong crowd is stupid. there are innocent people that get caught up. ever hear of the genocide in rwanda? oh of course not cuz slick willy instructed his staff not to call it genocide. once again why are we faulting the victim without any proof of wrong doing. the only problem is that he had money and spent a night on the town. yall jealous that he has that money unlike u? why do care if he spent his money on some stupid dom?
haters!!!
June 17th, 2008 at 12:35 am
heh tiger won yesterday n he is a Raider fan….lol
June 17th, 2008 at 12:36 am
Rev Wright deals with more racism in one day than Imus will in a lifetime, PDX. Now I know why you’re sending your kids to private school. It’s so they won’t be as stupid as they’re father.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:36 am
Its weird nobody saw any of this happen, people are like ants out in Vegas, everywhere.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:37 am
heh u seen the commercials right what happens in vegas stays in vegas.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:38 am
it has nothing to do with race….period
June 17th, 2008 at 12:38 am
money maybe…
June 17th, 2008 at 12:39 am
piss poor judgement,…most likely.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:40 am
Come on get over it Armond, Walker needs to clean up his act or more bad things will just keep happening to him. Hopefully he does not persuade someone like JR or Mcfadden to go with him to Vegas or anywhere else for that matter.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:40 am
White people have like one incident in their life where they were victims of racism. Got off the freeway in Richmond and got cussed out by a black guy at the gas station, or whatever. And they cling to that, using it as some kind of proof that black people are as racist as white people, and that all racism is the same. One incident… In the meantime, Black people can’t go to the grocery store without being watched.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:41 am
my kids half mex. MR are you saying that unless my kids go to school with kids of every race they’ll be racist. that’s stupid. my white dad told me to listen to MLK- to judge by ones content of character not there skin. racism is a two way street. whites certainly aren’t the only racist.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:41 am
?!
June 17th, 2008 at 12:42 am
As long as Walker can play two solid, #1 WR-type years, his contract will be worth it. Now this incident adds another big IF to the big IFs that came with his signing. Two years from now, his contract will be re-worked unless he’s playing like a superstar, and then, his later-year salaries might seem a bargain (in either a capped or un-capped year).
What happened to Walker shows just how fragile this team is. He is supposed to be the #1 WR on a team with nothing but WR question-marks. I can guarantee you this…Javon Walker will NOT be hosting Darren McFadden’s 21st birthday party.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:42 am
White people cheat, too.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:42 am
i get what both pdx and mr are sayin however dont call mr wright a racist without seeing the whole sermons on utube and what he said. its true but unfortunately black people cant speak the truth about america. was obama racist for puttin black men on blast for fathers day sunday or did he tell it like it is? yall like when blacks tell u about our stuff but yall dont like to hear about yours. is hannity and oreilly racist too along with all the major networks? and yes darkhorse native americans dont have a walk in the park either.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:42 am
FU MR i’m sure i should send my kids to school in where no whites go, i’ll bet you think that would take care of everything.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:42 am
439 wasn’t me. Stop being a dick, Dakota.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:43 am
PDX, what would be wrong with sending your kids to a school with no whites?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:44 am
stop blaming cultural differences,.. we all deal with them, even if we arent black. mexicans asains and american indians deal with cultural differences everyday too. the race card sounds like an excuse to me. I thought the Nation was the one place where we are all silver and black.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:45 am
PDX, send your kids wherever you want. All I’m saying is that no matter how smart they are, they will not have a job. They’ll be living on credit, they’ll be addicted to prescription drugs and they’ll have absolutely zero respect for you. So, do what you want with the little bastards.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:45 am
With the money these players make today and all the counseling they recieve from the league, they know better than to throw money around in public. He got rolled for the money, that much is obvious.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:46 am
Darkhorse, at the end of the day, you just want black people to shut up, don’t you? Kind of like how OJ was when he was a player?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:46 am
they have offseason programs to teach them how to deal with having a truckload of cash
June 17th, 2008 at 12:46 am
yes oreilly and hannity are racists. sounds like MR hates white people too. Rev Wright was right about on thing, this country has created alot of its own problems. does that mean we asked for 9/11- maybe some did maybe alot of dead people didn’t. whatever color they were.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:49 am
PDX Raider, calm down. I know you just want black athletes to shut their mouths and be more like Tiger. It’s not going to happen. I hope you send your kids to the finest of private schools, so they’ll know how to fill out credit card applications and fake prescription orders. That’s going to be their adult life. Trust me. You’re just still in denial of it.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:49 am
not at all, i want us to be able to communicate openly and freely and express ourselves w/o fear of retaliation, but i think race is an excuse for alot of people who feel victimized and want retribution. I FEEL IT AND i HATE IT BUT i MUST BE MORE OF A PERSON TO LET THAT HOLD ME DOWN.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Why did he have to be flashy and go to Vegas? He can get some ass in Oakland whenever he wants.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:49 am
They say “reality” is always stranger than fiction. Who could have written this story on Javon this past Friday?
No one. It just blows the mind. A few people here have posted how good things were going. All we need is Nnamdi signed, training camp, and then pre-season and the fun begins. Something had to go wrong. Tomorrow, media freaks who hate the Nation to start with, plus cooks, dischargers and donkey fans, are going to have a field day. Shanarat is having a wet-dream tonite. We’ll see what tomorrow brings.
Hopefully, it’s not as bad as it reads. Good night Raider Nation.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:49 am
eyepatch get over what? u guys are the ones hating not me. i made it clear i will wait until the whole story comes out. hell we dont even know more than him at the wynn and then hes on the sidewalk. thats all it takes to convince u hes a bad dude? where did all this running around with crazy people start? yall get over your jealousy and closet racism. hell id respect some of yall more if u just kept it real. darkhorse for some of u its not about race but dont fool yourself into thinking that its not that way for alot. u natvie american u should know. damn u that integrated?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:50 am
we are about to have a black president u know…
June 17th, 2008 at 12:50 am
MR you ask what would be wrong with sending my kid to a school with no whites? nothing. You said if I sent my kids to a private school(you said earlier that were not culturally diverse)they’d be racist a-holes. you’re a racist and that proves it, no matter school you went to a-hole.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:51 am
Darkhorse, your hatred of blacks is transparent, rather you know it or not.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:52 am
PDX Raider, you’re sending your kids to private school so they won’t have to deal with blacks, and you’re calling me a racist?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:52 am
we have so many issues to tackle .
June 17th, 2008 at 12:52 am
hey MR who is ur favorite Raider bro?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:53 am
I voted for that Black/White future pres and i came on here backing up Javon. I want the best players for my team that aren’t a-holes
June 17th, 2008 at 12:53 am
or 3, ( heh its hard for me to pick one but if i did it wud be Jim Otto)lol
June 17th, 2008 at 12:53 am
Do we need to delve into his past and see what else he has done? I hope not. Those are his bad choices not anyone elses. Nobody held a gun to his head and made him go to Vegas. Fact is if he had stayed with the team and conditioning coaches he would not be sitting the bench with a busted eye socket and a fat belly in week one.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:54 am
Darkhorse, go find a Raiders blog. We’re talking race here.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:54 am
MR?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:55 am
uh u cant name 3?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:55 am
PDX Raider, you mention Obama being white because that’s the only reason you could justify voting for him. You’re sending your kids to private schools so they won’t have to be around blacks. You think Javon Walker is a thug and you don’t even know what happened in Vegas. PDX, is there anything you like about black people?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:56 am
MR i can’t afford private school and i explained it would be for a better edu. and small class size and shi*. you obviously just enjoy baiting people. admit it your like a guy i used to work with that would sit at games and talk about how bad Gannon sucked and that they should put in R Peete lol.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:57 am
Darkhorse, go watch BET and get more info on black people in America today. You’re like a bug flying around my head right now, and you’re about to get swatted.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:57 am
argumentative… and he found his hook with the race card,… i bring up a positive debate on best raider and get dismissed… typical
June 17th, 2008 at 12:57 am
Walker may not be a thug but it sure does appear he hangs around thuggish places and thuggish people. The guys that rolled him were probably Turkish for all we know.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:58 am
ura dik.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:58 am
u just have no substance to stand on now.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:59 am
I’m about done being nice. Any of you ladies want to step in the ring and talk smack? I’m fired up.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:59 am
so pdx who are ur top 3 raiders of all time,(change topic)?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:59 am
Any Turks in here? The Turks did it I tell you!
June 17th, 2008 at 1:00 am
Eyepatch, your two sources on black America are BET and Bill Cosby. You haven’t talked to a live black person in over 20 years. Just shut your ass up.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:00 am
no new news yet…
June 17th, 2008 at 1:01 am
Oo
June 17th, 2008 at 1:01 am
Fave Raider the Wiz, Otto, Long oh and MR, maybe T. Brown or Branch or M Allen? Who’s y’er fave Raider coach MR, Shell ? lol
June 17th, 2008 at 1:02 am
i know my main 2 sources, pink n pinker
June 17th, 2008 at 1:02 am
man i so loved gruden
June 17th, 2008 at 1:03 am
Darkhorse, go get put to sleep.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:03 am
but maybe this kid kif will prove to be better
June 17th, 2008 at 1:03 am
pink and pinker? Is that the color of your boyfriend’s anus, Darkhorse?
June 17th, 2008 at 1:04 am
Gruden betrayed the nation, and it wasnt worth losing the rise we had. but now i am drinking the kool aid hoping kif will do it
June 17th, 2008 at 1:04 am
young and younger
June 17th, 2008 at 1:05 am
I met Patrick Ewing once and shook his hand. I can tell you he did not get rolled leaving the nightclub. Some of my relatives were raised by black people long before you were born to help keep them out of slavery and trouble with the klan. I have a great uncle that was the first person to prosecute a clansman in the state of Mississippi. Your race baiting is cannonfodder to me so keep firing.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:05 am
look at madden
June 17th, 2008 at 1:06 am
Shell, that’s a good one, PDX. But I’ll tell you this, Willie Shaw would have probably been a better coach for us than even Gruden. Ditto that for D. Green. Norv Turner is one dumb white man. So is Al Davis, for that matter.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:06 am
eyepatch because there are thugs in vegas who run vegas that wants people with money to spend money in their high profile superficial hotels. i dont care for vegas because of that attitude. new york san francisco chicago paris go down the list of so called a list towns where they have some the most elite venues for the upperclass. if he got mugged in oakland yall would ask why didnt he go somewhere else. pdx if u feel mr hates whites thats between yall. and no several innocent people didnt deserve what happened. i also dont have a problem with what youve said because i beleive we agree to wait and see how this happened. drkhorse some do use race as a crutch for an excuse and some also use it as a hammer for a reason. nobody answers the question of a disposable black life. wheres the sorrow for this man being left for dead? why are so many more concerned with our average wrs, cutting him and his spending lots of money as if thats a crime more than his well being. same thing with sean bell being murdered by nypd who has a history of that.
vegas advertises for people to spend money and yall mad cuz he had the money to do it. that dont make no damn sense.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:06 am
Actually L. Hayes is my fave with Belitnikoff and Wisniewski and honorable mention for Eric Turner RIP best defensive player for a time when the Raiders returned.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:07 am
Eyepatch, I’ll take a lesson from you on black history the day I take one from David Duke. Stick to what you know: watching sports, drinking cheap beer, having no sex, and shaking your head at the screen while watching rap videos. Racist loser.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:07 am
we all know that al davis has his ” formula” and he will never change. he won the offseason exchange w kiff (duh) but kept him knowing he had better option. I wanna see kif exert his will some more and become tht leader we need.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:08 am
MR, the poor black man with a chip on his shoulder, please move on with your life.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:09 am
my top 3..jim otto tom flores freddy b
June 17th, 2008 at 1:10 am
two white guys n a hispanic, i was gonna say art shell but since ur on ur black issue i figured i wud fuel th fire some
June 17th, 2008 at 1:12 am
I so love Art Shell, but th hiring of mr. bed n breakfast was his worst decision ever. we were doomed……. I know that he means well and has good intentions and all but tht shud have been averted before week2.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:13 am
but shell sucked as coach so bad, how about Upshaw
June 17th, 2008 at 1:14 am
eric turner and derrick thomas both died too early
June 17th, 2008 at 1:15 am
I cud say 74 from center t tackle, otto upshaw shell
June 17th, 2008 at 1:16 am
imagine if we had that tandem to run mcfadden bush n fargas behind?
June 17th, 2008 at 1:17 am
eyepatch r u talkin to me with that last statement? if so i dont care who did what when before i was born cuz that obviously doesnt get in the way of your statements. maybe u need to go back and get reaquainted with those that helped us po negros so much so u understand how dumb some of your statements were. i cant racebait when u threw the first hook. show me proof of this gangsta crowd he hangs with. nobody is giving him a pass if he is at fault. i just choose to wait for all the information unlike u.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:17 am
hehheheheh we wundnt need a passing game,….- to the left- to the left- to the left.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:17 am
True, i’m out and i’ll try to keep an eye out for MR better in the future and ignore his jr high crap. MR go to hell. GO RAIDERS!
June 17th, 2008 at 1:18 am
r we still dangling from that uncertain web?
June 17th, 2008 at 1:19 am
l8r
June 17th, 2008 at 1:19 am
Armond I said race had nothing to do with hanging out with thugs, I am not sure what planet you have visited but its not this one.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:20 am
btw shell sucked second time around as well as the breakfast man.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:20 am
And no my statement was to MR if you would read the stuff he is posting you would know that. But I take it you agree with MR and are his buddy.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:20 am
yeh he did
June 17th, 2008 at 1:21 am
Shell sucked the first time around he just had better players than in 2006.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:22 am
mike lombardo played a big hand in his downfall the second time around…shell looked for his help n got stabbed in th back
June 17th, 2008 at 1:22 am
lombardo played shell,… hate t admit it but its true
June 17th, 2008 at 1:24 am
if shelll had some more guidance getting acclimated to todays game it wud have been altogether differemnt
June 17th, 2008 at 1:24 am
Shell is one of the worst game day coaches in NFL history sad to say. He never made adjustments at halftime and his schemes on offense were so bad they had to hold everyone in to block on passing downs but 2 wide recievers most of the time the first time around.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:25 am
it was like he was set up to fail.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:26 am
MR, do you ever say anything that makes any sence? Anything that doesn’t sound like my uncle uncle Buckweed said? I sure don’t want atheletes to shut up, but sure wish you would.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:26 am
its a different game today
June 17th, 2008 at 1:27 am
I just wonder now what plan b is as far as our wrs are concerned…
June 17th, 2008 at 1:28 am
burress?
June 17th, 2008 at 1:30 am
I think plan B is to wait and see what is really going on. If its not serious, walker has time to recover.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:31 am
In the meantime cater will with be getting all the first team snaps.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:31 am
unless a suspension is involved
June 17th, 2008 at 1:31 am
Its plan A still because Walker was part of plan B. Until he can stay on the field and develope the timing needed to run this offense Carter and Curry will be starting.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:31 am
4 games maybe…
June 17th, 2008 at 1:32 am
A broken eyesocket is serious.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:32 am
I want to see curry get more touches
June 17th, 2008 at 1:33 am
There is only one more OTA until camp starts. So regardless, Walker wouldn’t be practesing with the team til then.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:33 am
not if his last name was Otto,…lol
June 17th, 2008 at 1:33 am
tc starts 25th right?
June 17th, 2008 at 1:34 am
july
June 17th, 2008 at 1:34 am
the same planet youre on dont give me that.i asked u if u were directing those last statements to me? u r the one who said theres a reason why they charge so much at the door to keep the thugs out after mr asked u whats your problem with blacks. i never called u a racist however i did raise the question no one will answer when it comes to a black life being disposable even when he is the victim. u were the smartass with the whole my people yadayaya before u were born which seems to be so typical. where is the sympathy for the victim atleast until we know all the facts. u are making assumptions without any knowledge other spending money on dom at the wynn. now what planet are u on?
June 17th, 2008 at 1:34 am
He can work with the team on his own time instead of hanging out in Vegas. But what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, in Walkers case literally.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:35 am
?!!:::>
June 17th, 2008 at 1:36 am
He will. Should be #1/#2 until Walker is back or someone else is brought in. in the meantime the rookies and higgens get more quality playing time…. Since Walker may not be at OTAs, they may bring back the perenial Raiders WR, Dough Gabriel. Especially since he’s out of a job.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:37 am
How do we know he is a victim? He probably ran his drunk mouth and got beaten to a pulp. And thats right they do charge $100 to get into those bars to keep the thugs out, thats a fact.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:38 am
Armond if he were white you probably would not even post.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:38 am
is burress worth a 1st rounder?
June 17th, 2008 at 1:40 am
or shud we try for boldin?
June 17th, 2008 at 1:43 am
and no i dont agree with everything he said but some is true. why am i his buddy? cuz i am an outspoken black who wont cowtow for white folks? why would u assume all that when i raised my own questions. MR is a grown man he can speak for himself. and i dont believe shell completely sucked the first time he was above average nothing special. as bad as the organization has been it was better the first time no doubt. atleast he looked like he had a clue but the last time he clearly was over his head. u could see it in his face and especially the press conferences. whatever the case may be the raiders havent really built a strong core of receivers for a while. im talkin about where they really just drafted and molded their own wrs. jerry rice dont count.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:44 am
boldin would be my bet. buress if getting old and has health issues every year
June 17th, 2008 at 1:49 am
Phil Villapano is no different than Walker, both in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong people, and they both know it, and both got beat up for it some 30 years apart.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:49 am
and u know this because? are u race baiting me? i actually have posted a number of times here especially during the draft. what i need your approval to show i can post, please. i post like everyone else when they feel like it. if he were white i think its still unfair. of course i can say if he were white you wouldnt be talkin ish now would u? see i can play that game too if u want.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:53 am
Get over your race issues Armond, living life angry about who you are is no way to live.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:55 am
Oh give it up you two. Fighting on a blog is like playing in the special olympics, no matter who win, you both are still retarded!
No one is going to back off. Move on to another topic.
June 17th, 2008 at 2:00 am
i tried… we need to think of a guy we can bring in at wr…
June 17th, 2008 at 2:05 am
this race business is idiotic. if we had been counting on #1 receiver performance out of fred biletnikoff or mike siani and this happened to one of them, it would be a blow to the TEAM. that is what has people upset.
June 17th, 2008 at 2:05 am
biggest priority
June 17th, 2008 at 2:08 am
i know we must address this asap
June 17th, 2008 at 2:35 am
Oakglenn, I thought you’d finally killed yourself. But after reviewing the comments section, you’re back, like a hemroid.
So riddle me this, Oakglenn, did one AL DAVIS make a mistake by spending so much money on Walker?
June 17th, 2008 at 2:39 am
Oakglenn, you were f’n smittens on Walker when we signed him. You slayed naysayers one after another. Now you’re running the guy down for not earning his money. Al just signed him like a couple of months ago, dude. So, level with us. Did Al the genius finally make a mistake in your view?
June 17th, 2008 at 2:53 am
Oh…wait, I know…………Walker was Kiffin’s choice! Feeble old Al had nothing to do with it. Never mind, Oakglenn. There’s no point in wasting time with you, since I already know you’ll say that. you’re the biggest kool aid drinking Davis pole smoker on the planet.
June 17th, 2008 at 3:11 am
HayesDaze#37 Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 12:22 am
People, People!! Anybody here ever go to Vegas and get really, reeeeaally ripped? Of course, many of you have. Whether he had a blue-collar $500 bankroll, or a rich man’s $50,000 wad, he had the right to go party on his vacation. He had the right to stay up all night, and he had the right to go anywhere he wanted — whether he was being smart about it or not (and we still don’t know how he got where he ended up).
Other than assuming he was doing something stupid, I’ve got no other reason to think he was anything but a victim at this point. A stupid victim, knowingly putting himself in a bad situation? Maybe, but I hope not.
As for the $15,000 tab for 15 bottles of Dom Perignon — the rumor mill is running wild, folks. Assuming he was spraying the crowd (if he did this) with “standard” Dom, his bill for 15 bottles would’ve been more in the $2,000 range — a far cry from $15K.
The best news here is that Walker’s alive. Not knowing how his knee/s are for a few days is a huge concern. If the eye heals, he’ll be good to go.
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absolutely best post since I went to bed!!1
June 17th, 2008 at 3:22 am
i’m up and ready for work now. SOmething walker and Qbanis could never do. I was always against walker coming. WHy pay that money for a 4th receiver anyway?
qbanis, are you out of money until the 1st? i’ll give you a loan. Send me your address.
June 17th, 2008 at 3:27 am
LMN: if you were paid a lot of money and you missed work while everyone else was busting their ass. If you weren’t doing what was asked while you were “rehabbing” such as working out and keeping your weight down (came into camp over weight). SO basically you never show up for work after being paid do you really think you should be out like that? My mom taught me differently. First off, I’d be so apologetic for not working w/everyone else, especially because i robbed the raiders. WOuldn’t you feel guilty? Maybe it’s just me but i don’t see how you can rob your employer, ditch your teammates and then go out like this by throwing money at everyone. Someone asked where his teammates were… sleeping getting ready for work. His friends.. honestly people like this don’t have “friends” they have purchased acquaintances.
June 17th, 2008 at 3:32 am
Take it easy our O will do just fine, I hadn’t high thoughts about Javon in the first place…
WR1 Drew Carter
WR2 McFadden
WR3 Curry
WR4 Higgins
RB1 Fargas
RB2 Bush
TE1 Miller…
this will work just fine =) I know now why McFadden was the pick and not some D guy….
June 17th, 2008 at 3:33 am
Jim, Walker’s a millionaire and you’re not. Your mother taught you the value of hard work and that’s exactly what you do, work hard for very little. Walker’s mother taught him absolutely nothing and he’s bathing in money. God bless America. But what I want to know is, are the people who were praising Walker’s signing, calling it a genius Al move, and who are now bashing Walker, going to admit that Al f’ked up? I think not.
June 17th, 2008 at 3:35 am
“WR2 McFadden”
LOL.
June 17th, 2008 at 3:39 am
Holy stupid arse. It must be a black thing. Spray crowds of people with money or champagne or pee and then go outside and play gangsters games.
I bet the fool got in a car with someone he should not have.
Oh well, this is the Raider theme I use to love. Like against the philly turds. They were good boys and we were bad boys even the night before the game.
June 17th, 2008 at 3:41 am
MR you need to watch yourself. I noticed you called Al dumb. He is many things but dumb is not one of them.
You can make the senile claim and there is a small possibility you are right but Al is not dumb.
June 17th, 2008 at 3:44 am
MR…
well I definitely didn’t, from the get go I had more worries about Javon than Kwame Harris, that says a lot… People here found it stupid to worry about a guy when we only was in the beginning of June… I just had this gut-feeling that he was the problem child to be… Not that I had imagined it to be like this
June 17th, 2008 at 3:44 am
So this is the same fool who almost died when his teammate was riddled with bullets. And what were they doing?
Let me guees.
Hmmm were they playing gangster games after spraying people with stuff at strip clubs?
And pacman in Vegas? Gangster games after spraying money and then making people give it back.
lol fools
June 17th, 2008 at 3:46 am
guess
June 17th, 2008 at 3:48 am
Its all fun and games untill someone loses a eye
June 17th, 2008 at 4:01 am
Walker = Jerry Porter 2.0!!
When your team is circling the drain you have to overpay!They have not done anything to shine a ray of hope that this season will be better! Kiffin looks like a substitute teacher… Kwame even false starts in my Madden team( @ home for crying out-loud). Anyways no need set high expectations, in the (WWF/WWE) NFL SOAPOPERA the Raiders aren’t going anywhere respectable anytime soon!
P.S. Did anyone else notice that the recent luncheon with business excs @ Bishop Ranch everyone was there but the HEAD COACH?
June 17th, 2008 at 4:55 am
I found a picture of MR.
http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?pnum=1&bfromind=8386&eeid=5934429&_sitecat=1522&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=2&ck=&ch=ne
June 17th, 2008 at 5:11 am
The police are going to ask the public for help to identify his rollers this morning.
June 17th, 2008 at 5:16 am
http://www.ktnv.com/global/story.asp?s=8500407
June 17th, 2008 at 5:17 am
They need to drug test him.
June 17th, 2008 at 5:21 am
[...] favorite wide receiver here in Packerland, but I don’t think anyone would wish this on him. Oddly, the fans in Oakland don’t seem to be taking a shine to Javon based on some [...]
June 17th, 2008 at 5:29 am
I guess this is why we are so happy around here =)
travelersdigest.com/beautiful_women_2.htm
June 17th, 2008 at 5:30 am
I agree, but it is very suspicious where they found him and why he was there. Maybe he was just drunk and got lost, but I dunno.
June 17th, 2008 at 5:35 am
Well you know Al has plenty of clauses in the contract that covers the Raiders. Walker’s contract lost value over night and gave the Raides more cap space to sign Aso. Oh and btw Aso’s salary might go up again by the start of camp, thats why he is holding firm not signing the tender.
June 17th, 2008 at 5:37 am
Man, the thing that sucks is they will never catch the guy who robbed Walker. But always remember, don’t go anywhere alone, don’t drink that much, and nothing good happens after 1am.
June 17th, 2008 at 5:58 am
Kiffin said it best…”it’s an important month for the vets!…refering to between the end of nex week and July 25th. Poor judgement is gonna cost us in this one. Javon should have been studying his play book instead of gambling with his new found fortune. I’m sorry he was attacked, it’s dreadful. Seems no one is safe, but good judgement can’t be beat. Roethllisberger’s motorcycle accident was an err in judgement but that was kinda different. It’s not like Walker is John Matuszak, or Alzado, or Otis Sistrunk.
This is an important time for vets! I hope that the rest of them are paying attention. Walker is actually lucky to be alive. While I was not there, so I can only speculate, he was probably loaded wtih both Dom Perignon and CASH.
How much guaranteed money did he get in his contract, $16 million? I hope Al has a stupidity clause in the fine print. STUDY YOUR PLAYBOOK! PERFORM WELL! GET PAID!
I like Higgins, Will Buchanon, Arman Shields, or Chaz Schilens, behind Curry and Carter, dispite that they are unproven. A good many teams field youngsters that perform well.
Anyway, I hope that he is ok, for his sake. I’d never wish anyone harm. There are, however, consequences for irresponsibility.
June 17th, 2008 at 6:06 am
what is the latest on walker? we need to bring in eric moulds
June 17th, 2008 at 6:08 am
No way was he walking around this area, you telling me he is going to spend 15K on drinks and can’t get a cab or limo, a limo is only $30 here. He left the Hard Rock with some shady people looking for an after party and got jacked, plain and simple.
June 17th, 2008 at 6:13 am
In response to post #554; your numbers are way off. I do agree that 15K is a little expensive, but if a bottle of Sky Vodka is $500 at a club (trust me it is), than Don P is definatley more. Plus they charge a 30% gratuity on all table service, plus tax. I got a bottle of Sky and Grey Goose with a bunch of friends a few weeks ago and that cost close to 2K by itself.
June 17th, 2008 at 6:15 am
A weekend in Vegas is cool. Fly out, fly back…recover monday, then OTA on Tuesday. No problem right? I know crap happens, but what about foresite, dedication, study habbits, work ethic, responsibility, leadership, & a commitment to excellence.
He might have the right to do what ever he wants, but I think differently.
Just an opinion, cause really, who am I, right?
June 17th, 2008 at 6:19 am
It’s not about the money, or getting assualted for the money. It’s about not being in the Bay Area, resting after one 3 day OTA in preparation for another. Being committed to preparation.
Anyway, I’m done with this one. I have no more to say.
June 17th, 2008 at 6:23 am
Typical fill in the blank. Sparaying the crowd with Dom Perignon?
June 17th, 2008 at 6:33 am
LMN, in my next life I want to be born a swedish man.
June 17th, 2008 at 6:44 am
Hi and good morning.
June 17th, 2008 at 6:49 am
Reportedly Walker was beaten by a tourist from Idaho who was not too thrilled about a 6:30 a.m. champagne shower on his way to the breakfast buffet.
June 17th, 2008 at 6:49 am
MR,…thank you for boring us on your racial opinions. Doesnt fly here dude, youre not a man of the people, youre still just a nobody posting in a blog, you arent making a difference, you are still just a loser with dumb views and you havent a clue what youre talking about. As usual. I think its still funny that you have nobody to talk to at 1:00 in the morning and you have to post in a blog, …I hope someday you find a friend, in the real world, then you wouldnt have to be in a message board at odd hours of the night.
June 17th, 2008 at 6:59 am
All of you idiots that are gloating about this are stupid. I can understand that you may have been concerned about his knee not performing, but to claim you knew that a man would get robbed in the future, therefor putting the team in a bad situation is ridiculous. At the end of the day, the guy at worse made a bad judgement call.
There is more to the story. Before you make idiotic claims, wait until the info comes out. The fact is he was out in Vegas partying late at night.
The only thing he is guilty of is making us angry for being stupid enough and naive enough to think that we wouldn’t party if he had stupid amounts of money.
MR and LMN, you two are tools for acting like you know everything because was at the wrong place at the wrong time.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:01 am
Idiots like you two are the types that would do something like what happened to Javon. Jealous of a rich man partying so freely when you can’t!
June 17th, 2008 at 7:02 am
Attitude reflects leadership….
The Head Coach called the players out, they are grown men, with choices of their own to make. You do not tell them what they need to do, you show them.
Kid Kiffin is to blame, and if he were the Coach we need and should be, he would have already spoken to the media regarding this situation in defense of his player. Does he think his only job is to call out a play on Sunday? Who are all these apparent football coaches anyway? I thought a coach was supposed to instill a sense of character in his players.
This was just another in a long line of OPPORTUNITIES that Kiffin has had to accept responsibility for his team, and thereby earn their trust. Players need support when stuff goes wrong, after all, who is the one that is supposed to set this example? Makes me sick no one can figure this out!
If Kiffin isn’t let go here real soon, the Raiders are in for another long season, doesn’t matter what the names on the back of the jersey’s might be….
Don’t mean to change the subject, just gotta call em like I know I see em’…..
Later dudes!
June 17th, 2008 at 7:05 am
And it begins! Crap, what was this guy doing walking around in that neighborhood or should I say hood. I guess he figured it was light out. “what could happen” dumbass!
Hopefully he’ll get better and all will be good again.
Raiders 2008!!
June 17th, 2008 at 7:08 am
What upsets me the most about this is not what happened or how it happened; it is about where it happened and when it happened.
Typical rich athlete in the offseason. Go blow some steam in sin city, party it up, and forget about your reputation. Forget about the commitment you made to your team. Forget about the responsibility that comes to you in a position as an NFL player. Let your team down and prove that you have no commitment by partying it up in Vegas a month before training camp when you should be laying low and rehabbing yourself into playing shape.
You always hear talk about athletes that fight against the notion that they are a role model. Like it or not, they are role models for young people and behavior such as this is reprehensible. You don’t party it up in Vegas this way coming off an injury plagued year when your not ready for training camp and have something to prove to the league.
I don’t really care why he was assaulted, I only care that he put himself in a place where it could happen and increased the odds of it happening by making a spectacle of himself in a night club. If he wanted to party it up, he should have stayed home and done it there. Although it is unfair to say he deserved this, he certainly put himself in a position that made it possible to happen.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:09 am
I’m with you, Dakota!
June 17th, 2008 at 7:12 am
If they drug test him I’d be very,very worried the season is over for him.Looking for more party time at 6:30AM. I wonder what he was doing?Man oh MAn.
Damn
June 17th, 2008 at 7:13 am
We blew it in this year’s draft. We could have a two impact rookie WR’s in Manningham and DJ Hall from Alabama. We passed both of them up for a CB and a WR from a small school. Hopefully, Chaz and Arman can step up for us and be an impact on this year’s team, I highly doubt it. Manningham and D.J. Hall would have been a better approach. Both players are from bigger conferences and use to play in bigger games. Lets hope Walker can heal from this and move on. But this is not off to a good start at all. He’s got to realize maybe Vegas is not the right place foe him to be hanging out. Very disappointing but not surprised.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:16 am
I don’t understand those who rush to conclusions without knowing any of the facts. Let’s wait until an investigation is done. All we know now is that Javon was found beaten unconscious in an area of abandoned townhouses and condo’s after he was seen partying at the Hard Rock. Anything more is speculation.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:19 am
Manningham has greatly diappointed the Jets in the 3 days by not catching deep balls or running the right patterns. Must be related to the Wond. Test. 3.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:22 am
Javon should be ale to enjoy himself, especially in the off-season. However, the NFL has classes that teach players that they are targets and flaunting money is asking for it. So, if Javon was spraying bots of DOM, he is being naive and left himself open. NFL players need to be aware at all times. I am surprised to see him out partying like that by himself after his teammate Darrent Williams died in his arms a couple of years ago. I hope he is OK. And remember that the media does not always get the story straight.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:23 am
Coach Kiffin’s lack of support of his player is not speculation, you can bet he doesn’t give a dam about his player. He only cares about himself, prrof that he was lured away from his cushy college job when he wasn’t ready for the NFL.
Funny the NFL network does a piece on Darrent Williams and his youth center yesterday, and the same day the man who held his bleeding neck in the limo that night, Javon Walker, get found unconscious in Las Vegas. Smells kinda funny to me….
Am I the only one with any sense in this place? Wake up!
June 17th, 2008 at 7:26 am
Orbital fracture: A break in one of the bones that make up the orbit. Since the orbit is the seat of the globe (the eye), an orbital fracture can be a serious, sight-threatening break.
This really wasnt Javons fault fellas he was minding his business and was a victim of a robbery how in the world would that be his fault? He might of been spraying the crowd at the Wynn but i doubt some thugs can afford to get in to that place ive been there at the wynn and its like 150 dollars to get in unless your a girl they usually get in for free.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:37 am
WTF is he doing in vegas when OTA’s start the next day????
This is just bad not as bad as B.Robbins 180 befor the SB but kinda like that!!!!
June 17th, 2008 at 7:38 am
Kirk…
if not swedish, then a dane… apparently we have the wildest chicks =)
June 17th, 2008 at 7:39 am
The Las Vegas-Review Journal reported Walker was spotted at the nightspot “Tryst” at the Wynn “spraying the crowd with some of the 15 bottles of Dom Perignone Rose champagne he ordered.”
What a loser. Great signing Al
June 17th, 2008 at 7:41 am
Dakota….
“MR and LMN, you two are tools for acting like you know everything because was at the wrong place at the wrong time.”
what are you talking about, buddy? I think you might read my posts again before opening your snout…
June 17th, 2008 at 7:43 am
What did he do wrong! He went to have a goog time in Vegas and got robbed. That could have happened to anyone of us. Why is it that people think athletes should just stay at home and only concentrate on their sport and never try to enjoy life. That’s stupid! Instead of blaming him for getting hurt we should be wishing him the best. When you watch the news and see somebody get attacked or hurt, do you say that person was a idiot? They should have been home doing nothing.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:45 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
June 16th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
yeah and everybody here was on my neck because I found Javon to be our biggest offensive worry?!
……….. You were right dude!! I guess its time for JHL 2 step it up or were ufckd
June 17th, 2008 at 7:45 am
Out of shape and squandering money the Raiders dumped on him by spraying champagne that costs 110 dollars a bottle..
June 17th, 2008 at 7:45 am
Dakota…
where have I been gloating ? All I said was I didn’t quite belive the mogging story…
and that Darkhorse bets on all horses, he is upset that javon “did this”… All I said wait judging him…. And Darkhorse both judges him and say it might not be Javons fault… I just pointed out you can’t say both…
June 17th, 2008 at 7:46 am
408…
yeah I was right… but to me thats not gloating… its stating the obvious….
June 17th, 2008 at 7:48 am
Will we see Charles Rogers in camp now??
June 17th, 2008 at 7:48 am
……and so it begins. 408RAIDER, I’m right there with you, what the hell are you doing in Vegas when OTA’s start the next day. I guess we know now what kind of dedicated player “big Al” signed this time. Our season has not even started and we are already looking horrible!
June 17th, 2008 at 7:51 am
Dakota…
please elaborate… Why did you say such a stupid remark about me, what is it based on… or did you simply just misread my posts?
June 17th, 2008 at 7:55 am
WTF?
Jeezus troll, if you are going to pretend to be me (posts 536, 529, 542, 546, 587 and 588) you could at least do me the honor of spelling SOME of the words correctly.
Now I have a retarded troll stalking me….great. At least MR can spell for cripes’ sake.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:55 am
First and foremost lets hope this doesn’t hurt his career. Now with that said,he was probably set up by one of those guys that he bought drinks for.
look it was a project anyway so soime of theses young guys gone have to step up. And zach miller will have jeremy shockey type numbers this season running games gone great so Im not worried.
GO RAIDERS!
June 17th, 2008 at 7:56 am
LMN,
I just logged on…#612 was my first post of the day.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:58 am
What the hell was he doing in Las Vegas?!!!! He should be working out losing some dam weight! Bad signing!
June 17th, 2008 at 7:58 am
Dakota…
alrighty then, then I’ll back off =)
June 17th, 2008 at 7:59 am
Yeah what the hell was he in vegas when the season is 12 weeks away. Its good we see what we got early so we can adjust
June 17th, 2008 at 7:59 am
check PFT out
profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/photos-emerge-of-walker-making-it-rain/
June 17th, 2008 at 8:01 am
Charachter,pride,team loyalty now he has to prove himself all over again. Bad signing
June 17th, 2008 at 8:06 am
Sorry about all that LMN. Here is another example of what the Troll is trying to do to me:
frozen Says:
June 16th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Dakota Says:
June 15th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
You are all worthless….Koolkell is gay,..so what,..not a big deal…BHP is an old loser on welfare…Frozen has no friends and lives with his fat mom,..actually that goes for most in here…Jim, ct raider, Is a child molestor…exlaxraiderfanticketholder is the typical L.A. loser,..ghetto boy,…but hey, if I was a negro I would also move to L.A., good place to raise a family on welfare….happy dads day!….that reminds me, why are black guys such terrible fathers? Then the cycle continues,..the black kid becomes a criminal like his useless dad was,..and so on, and so on…
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Jerry, come on man, clean this place up. I would never say racist stuff like that, and hopefully those guys know it. Get a fuking registration on this site for cripes’ sake.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Dakota,
WTF with the troll sh*t. I never lived in the ghetto. I’m not African-American though if I was, I’d be proud of it. I am in favor Jerry of registering for this site to get haters off this site.
Go Raiders!!!
Go Lakers.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:15 am
It is unfortunate that Walker was mugged, but as a professional athlete who makes millions, you need to know that you are a target for getting robbed, or even killed. It is to risky to be walking along in Vegas or to be surrounded by thug friends. I never hear this stuff happening to P. Manning or T. Brady. Plus Walker should have cut this out of his route because of what happen when he played in Denver.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:15 am
BTW Dakota,
By now, we know when it’s not you posting.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Guess he didn’t learn the first time!
His life was torn apart when he was riding in a limousine with teammate Darrent Williams early New Year’s Day 2007, with Williams dying in his arms after being shot.
That incident was, at least in part, prompted by the spraying of champagne in a Denver club that allegedly infuriated gang members in attendance.
Walker was spotted at the same Tryst nightclub in Las Vegas in the days after Williams’ death, with team sources saying it was his way of dealing with the grief and Walker later telling HBO he was trying to get away from those responsible for Williams’ slaying.
But it wasn’t the fallout from the Williams’ incident that ended Walker’s tenure with the Broncos. It was his public displeasure about his role within the offense and private charges from within Dove Valley of selfishness that sealed his fate, ultimately leading him to Oakland.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:18 am
Exla,
You know I would not say that stuff. I guess Jerry likes the comment count too much to do anything to clean up the BS that goes on in here.
Anyway, the Lakers are going to make history.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:19 am
Thanks Exla.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:21 am
I didn’t know that Javon was a highly rated Baseball player.
Walker was drafted by the Florida Marlins in the eighth round of the 1997 Major League Baseball draft, and spent three years in the minor leagues of the organization. source Wikipedia
June 17th, 2008 at 8:25 am
LV Local, you know he wasn’t walking around there, that was the dumpoff spot. Setup by some chicks I bet
June 17th, 2008 at 8:26 am
… still waiting to hear some facts…
June 17th, 2008 at 8:27 am
Dakota…
I guess My english is too bad to distinguish between you and the troll… I’ve let it go
June 17th, 2008 at 8:29 am
I hope Walker will be okay. I do not blame him from partying it up in the offseason. He is young and his pockets are full of cash. I would be living it up too…just as long as it didn’t interfere with my profession.
He has done nothing illegal, that we know of at this point, so why all the hate? He was out drinking and partying and got jacked, it could happen to any athlete. Until we get more facts we should give him the benefit of the doubt.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:29 am
sad…
June 17th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Dakota,
Our Lakers have already made history. lol Our biggest leads given up in an NBA Final. lol
June 17th, 2008 at 8:31 am
yeh we need more information.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:32 am
gasol n odom need to come large.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:32 am
I would not have wanted to be the one to give AD the news.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:33 am
well see what the refs do…heh
June 17th, 2008 at 8:35 am
yeh me neither, he prolly elbowed his hyperbarec chamber nsmashed his nebutal
June 17th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Did you guys see that story on CNN about the toddler mauled by a puppy? Poor kid had his junk bit off by the family pet! That really sucks…jeeeezus.
They won’t let me post the link, just go to CNN.com.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:38 am
then made sure that tommy k or nmandi a was home being responsible.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:39 am
i doubt we need more info
June 17th, 2008 at 8:39 am
sad………
June 17th, 2008 at 8:51 am
He made himself a target by drawing attention to himself with that 15k champagne rain making stunt. I’m sure he flashed cash (a big no-no in vegas) as well. Smart people don’t do that, but I’m sure a lot of us have put ourselves in similar (perhaps less expensive) situations at one point or another. However, he’s a 30 year old man who should know better.
Got what he deserved? Yep, because he was stupid and lost control of his ability to take care of himself and exercise good judgement – take a freaking cab from the hotel/bar. Did he deserve a beating? Who knows, but if he talked smack to the wrong crowd, stole somebody’s woman, etc. etc., then he was asking for it – it was his luck that he messed with the wrong people.
We’ll see how he heals and what the real story is, but this is obviously not a high character individual.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:51 am
He must not have learned his lesson when Durrant Williams lay dead in his lap after being shot after an altercation at a club several years ago. One of the smartest things i saw a celebrity do recently, was to have a club like area in the basement of his home; complete with stripper pole and everything, so he could bring the party to his home. No one gets dui’s, no one gets mugged, no one gets killed. Obviously he is in search of the same fate as his former teammate, rest his soul.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Anything new on Javon?
June 17th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Just read this from PFT. It’s something that came to mind when I heard of this story and some of the small details:
“As a couple of commenters have noted, why would Walker have allowed himself to be alone? It makes us wonder whether he was robbed by folks who were with him, as opposed to a random street mugging.”
When I go to Las Vegas, I always have friends around me all the time. You don’t ever go out there to party on your own.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:03 am
First off what the hell is an “orbital fracture”? Why was he spraying the crowd with champagne? Celebrating all the money he got from Al I suppose. Were Pacman and Chris Henry with him? F*cking idiot.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:06 am
More pictures of Javon at Tmz.com. http://www.tmz.com/2008/06/17/javon-sprayed-out-before-he-got-laid-out/
June 17th, 2008 at 9:09 am
According to this medical definition, Walker had to be struck by a blunt object causing the fracture.
http://www.emedicine.com/oph/topic229.htm
June 17th, 2008 at 9:12 am
In a recent study of orbital fractures in an urban population, 70% of the fractures were due to assault with a blunt object (eg, fist, baseball bat),
June 17th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Golly, I am sure Walker is the first Raider to go to Vegas and party…shame on him!
Why don’t we wait for some facts and his side of the story before we crucify this guy?
June 17th, 2008 at 9:15 am
http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/javon_walker_las_vegas
June 17th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Look at the size of the watch he wore around streets of Vegas, no wonder he got rolled, they should cut that moron now before its too late.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Ok let me make it clear first i did not read all 640 some odd coments but I read enough to know some of you who posted on here have a real distorted since of what important. Come on guys show some F’ en class
The guy got beat up for crimesakes and all some of you can say is he was a lousey signing or he was this or that.
None of that matters the fact he was beat up is what does matter somebody in the to 15 made the point thaty maybe he was where he should not have been and maybe he was doing something he should not have, butr that he certainly did not deserve this.
Well thats true if he was indeed a victim of a crime then no he did not deserve this.
I am just very disapointed in some of you on here all you can come up with is how he never should have been signed orhe was the bigest ??? what does that got to do with anything right now!
Its no wonder raider fans have a bad rep.
Ok fine i am getting off my soap box but some of you that took the time to post on this topic really need to take a look in the mirrior football is not the end all be all not when you are talking about a persons life.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Wonder if he was found with the watch?
June 17th, 2008 at 9:19 am
Will the “orbital fracture” effect his sight and ability to catch the ball? Al should cut this dude and take away the signing bonus.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:19 am
This guy definitely may never play again. Atleast not at a high level.
Most of these big contracts come with insurance policies in case a player has a major injury. The only bad thing about the ins. policies is that its voided once the player steps back on the field.
It will be very interesting to see how the Raiders respond to this situation.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:19 am
exLA…
or as I the cynic guessed, javon passed out hit the curve and smashed his eyesocket… and lost consciousness…
I saw something like that 2 years ago, a tourist that couldn’t handle his liquor… I just think this mugging is too convenient… Las Vegas should be packed with cameras, so we will know soon… But the mugging should be on camera somewhere, especially since it happened in vegas…
June 17th, 2008 at 9:22 am
This guy is almost 30! These idiot’s should grow up! But hey, you know what they say about a fool and his money….
June 17th, 2008 at 9:23 am
??? and Dakota seem like the only two making sense on here this morning. You other guys who claim to be Raider fans need to look in the mirror and make sure you’re human beings first. Nobody deserves to be a victim of a crime, and we know from the pictures and various reports he partied hard from his private booth, just like any other rich young person would do in Vegas. We don’t even know the facts and ya’ll are screaming he deserved it.
D@mn, can a brother kick it without deserving to be f’d up…..
June 17th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Drray…
where are you????? please enlighten us =)
June 17th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Well this may be a good sign. Looks like he is being released fom the hospital.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3448362
June 17th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Well, this whole thing sucks for the team but I agree with Dakota´s position on post 631.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:27 am
Walker definately poses a chemistry problem now, especially with Russell and McFadden trying to stay away from this kind of behavior.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:27 am
The reports of him being mugged are overblown. I hear he slipped on a McDonald’s wrapper.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:28 am
o/~ The Number Of The Beast o/~
June 17th, 2008 at 9:29 am
He would not have been a victim of a crime if he had done what most of the team is doing and thats playing it low in Oakland and getting into playing shape. If Walker can’t help the team grow and win, he needs to go.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Eyepatch….
Walker might need to borrow your nick….
June 17th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Thankyou #660 Glad somebody else on here agrees with me.
Its a real sad day when somepeople loose sight of whats important if it was indeed a crime nobody deserves to be the victim of a crime in particular a violent one!!! Rather or not the man plays again and plays at a high calibar takes a far back seat to a persons life>
I am almost ashamed to call myself a raider fan given the number of idiots that have chimed in on this topic today.
Very Very disapointing and shame on all of you who cant see the stupidity in your coments! 
Of course I knew this blog was going downhill the other day when some so called raider fan said he supported Obama so he could end up like JFK. Talk about no f’ en class!!
June 17th, 2008 at 9:32 am
Maybe he can get a room at in the Barret Robbins wing at the hospital.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:33 am
read post 554 please…
Heyes Daze said it best
June 17th, 2008 at 9:33 am
They should have used the Javon money to sign Nnamdi. There is no question about his character.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:35 am
“Mr. Davis……..Chad Johnson on line 1″
June 17th, 2008 at 9:36 am
RaiderTay makes a very good point. This is a pretty serious injury, and given that Kiffin sounded disappointed in his conditioning during OTA’s, and we have a lot of WR’s trying to make the roster this year, you gotta wonder if there is a clause that will allow the Raiders to wiggle out of this contract, now that he has sustained an injury off the field. This signing is just feeling more and more like a MAJOR mistake, and I would hate to see a talented rookie like Chaz Schilens or Arman Shields get cut to make room for oft-injured Javon Walker.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:37 am
You guys have too much sympathy for a man that can afford to have armed security 24/7 and yet seems to sniff out violent offenders. What else has he got to do before we realize he is fools gold unless he changes his lifestyle?
June 17th, 2008 at 9:38 am
I agree with #667 on where he should have been and should have been doing. But that does not excuse some of the coments that have been posted on this blog they are discusting and should not be allowed on here people that make coments like that make us all look bad. The need to take a closer look at themselves and think about what they are saying.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:41 am
Just prey he doesn’t rub off on anybody else. They start to penalize teams for players conduct sometime in the next couple of monthes.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:41 am
You know it sucks Javon got beat up and robbed, i’m glad he is not seriously injured for his quality of life, but he is stupid, why the heck are you partying 1 month before training camp spraying champagen bottles over the crowd, come on that’s what dumb rappers do, your a football player your supposed to be better than that, Al wasted his money and now he will probably blame Kiffin for it, this is just more negative press that the Raiders did not need, and another thing why wasn’t Jamarcus at that raider event on the website with ceo’s from the bay area, Mcfadden was they should of had both representing the team for the future, i really looking forward to this coming up football season but this news of javon just upsets me, i still think they will be a decent team though. but with javon’s kind of injury who knows if he will play, man i like kiffin but he is getting a raw deal also i didn’t see him in any pictures for that raider event either, knapp, and rob ryan were there. anyway this is my take on the state of the raiders, wasted money on javon……..
June 17th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Its a team sport, Javon needs to learn that.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Well, if he is getting released from the hospital today the injury couldn’t be that serious could it? I am sure that if he had had surgery on the eye he would not be getting out today would he?
He will probably be just fine by the time training camp rolls around.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Thank god he is alive and seems to be doing alright. At least it sounds like he is alright if they may release him from the hospital today.
All I got to say that there are some serious low life losers in this world. I wouldn’t be surprised if this “robbery” was pre meditated. Cowardly act for multiple people to jump on one guy. Freakin punk a$$ LOSERS!
When it comes to Walker he needs to know better….especially after the tragedy of Darrent Williams. You can party but party incognito and be low key about it. Lets hope he comes back from this stronger and wiser.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:43 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 3:11 am
HayesDaze#37 Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 12:22 am
People, People!! Anybody here ever go to Vegas and get really, reeeeaally ripped? Of course, many of you have. Whether he had a blue-collar $500 bankroll, or a rich man’s $50,000 wad, he had the right to go party on his vacation. He had the right to stay up all night, and he had the right to go anywhere he wanted — whether he was being smart about it or not (and we still don’t know how he got where he ended up).
Other than assuming he was doing something stupid, I’ve got no other reason to think he was anything but a victim at this point. A stupid victim, knowingly putting himself in a bad situation? Maybe, but I hope not.
As for the $15,000 tab for 15 bottles of Dom Perignon — the rumor mill is running wild, folks. Assuming he was spraying the crowd (if he did this) with “standard” Dom, his bill for 15 bottles would’ve been more in the $2,000 range — a far cry from $15K.
The best news here is that Walker’s alive. Not knowing how his knee/s are for a few days is a huge concern. If the eye heals, he’ll be good to go.
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I’ll re-repost this, because it says it all, it might be stupid of him to be in that position, but it can never be the victims fault…
hmmm just like a rape case… i guess….
June 17th, 2008 at 9:43 am
They get you out of heart surgery in 3 days now so yes it could be serious. Double vision for 3 monthes would not be good.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:43 am
if he was mugged, that is, if not its just a good cover up =)
June 17th, 2008 at 9:45 am
He makes too much money to be that stupid. The best we can hope for is that he is alright high tails back to Oakland and stays there with a new attitude.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:45 am
his hand to eye coordination will be gone for some time… he cant lift weights because that will ruin his recovery…
the only way for him to loose weight is to jump the stationary bike, and pump those pedals as he was going to peru…
June 17th, 2008 at 9:46 am
Bart Bridge,
i don’t think his injury is too serious if he is being released from the hospital today.
Which is a good thing…
June 17th, 2008 at 9:47 am
If you were 29, single and had collected almost 13 million the past 2 years with another 16 coming to you, would you not spend a few weekends in Vegas partying hard and getting wasted?.
I certainly would, that´s all I´m saying, maybe its not very wise, but most normal guys would. Walker just has some terrible luck or depending on the circumstances, maybe a death wish.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:47 am
errrh the rich can afford to be stupid, the poor can’t… not the other way around, I don’t follow your logic.. or lack thereof
June 17th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Take Walker back and get a refund, what a complete moron this idiot is, his supposed to be into football after his injuries, at the OTA-S, but he is in the hospital, fu$$$king ahole.
Al Davis has put out alot of money trying to bring back the raiders to the superbowl, i hope he can find a good free agent wide receiver before trainig camp.
DC.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Darkknight 01…
to be released doesn’t mean you as good as before.. it jsut mean there isn’t any medical reason for you to be at a hospital
June 17th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Brent…
I agree
June 17th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Peter Griffin is a dumd a$$ on the cartoon and so are you on this blog DUMMMMMMMM A$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!
June 17th, 2008 at 9:50 am
If you were poor you would not be wearing the above watch on a vacant Vegas street at 4 in the morning, get my drift?
June 17th, 2008 at 9:51 am
IF you are an NFL player in the month of june you should put a curfew on yourself…
Other requirements would be no drinking period….
I have heard some of the top atheletes dont drink at all so during this time period of camp zero drinking would I indulge in.
Staying in shape, a prereq to playing the game should be “automatic” cause this is what i do for a living.
How committed am i to a team if i dont take care of myself. I am not blaming him for getting jumped or beating or whatever, what about his fiduciary responsibility to the Raider NATION? You have plenty of time in the offseason if you desire to indulger but come on man you play a game and get paid hansomely for it the least you could do is keep yourself to succeed.
We are in a recession, money is very tough to come by, so when “opportunist” see someone they will pray on him/her to no good end.
I would like to reiterate I am not blaming Javon for what happended, but I am questioning his committment to the NATION.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:51 am
At least you understand Big Chill he did not deserve tyo be a victim of a crime.
Is he a idiot yeah for one thing he should have had a body gaurd but to many people on here are implying he some how deserved this that is what disturbs me.
Its no wonder this world is so F’ed up.
As for rather or not he will be missed on the field who knows his health was still a question mark anyway because of his knee. There really was no gaurntee he was going to have a positive impact anyway.
The questions surrounding his football health before this made it a risky proposition and yes davis over paid him for that reason.
But that is a seprate issue over what happened to his yesterday. The fact that some would even Impply he had it coming is just damn wrong and is disturbing.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Does all of the news media use the same exact news feed? I have Google News Reader and been getting the same exact news article from ESPN, NFL.com, SI, on and on and on… Same exact thing.
Anyone else notice this?
June 17th, 2008 at 9:51 am
All the people blameing Walker for geting attack really shows your education level or lack there of!Idiots!
June 17th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Eyepatch Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 9:45 am
He makes too much money to be that stupid. The best we can hope for is that he is alright high tails back to Oakland and stays there with a new attitude.
I agree…
June 17th, 2008 at 9:54 am
He is supposed to be rehabbing his knee and getting into shape and you want to give the guy a free pass for getting bombed and beat up in Vegas? You guys will see another loosing team this year with professional commitments like that.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:54 am
who here besides MR and Darkhorse blamed Javon?
June 17th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Very good Mr. Money you get the gold star for saying in one sentence what took me several to say. Good Job!!
June 17th, 2008 at 9:55 am
God, all of the grief that Ocho and T.O. get just for being kind of jerky. At least they’re not STUPID. You never hear their names attached to incidents like this. Because for all of their, uh eccentricities, they are still focused. That’s why they are considered the best at their positions. That’s why Javon is middle-of-the-pack at best.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:58 am
eyepatch…
with your logic… if a girl wears a short short skirt, get a bit to much to drink and gets raped in the alley…
then its her fault?
as HeyesDaze said, it can never be the victims fault, if they had made other choices it could have been avoided, but it can never be the victims fault…
June 17th, 2008 at 9:59 am
Anyone with cash will be a target. In my opinion I would not have been flashing anything, I would have probably been doing some push ups and sit ups or smashing the weights prepping my body for the gruel….
sorry he got beat up, or whatever hope he heals and is able to continue his career with or without the NATION…
June 17th, 2008 at 9:59 am
Its her fault for being in the alley yes, who elses fault would it be the tooth fairy?
June 17th, 2008 at 10:00 am
where in javons contract did it say he needed to be in Alamede 24/7, that he should be sober his entire tenure and so on? if you are of duty you are of duty…
How many here been soldiers??? its the same thing, when you out of the green close you’re off…. period…
June 17th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Lets hope that the Raiders have a non football injury clause in his contract. Depending on how serious the orbital fracture is and IF they is damage to the retina…they I think he will be fine by late July or early August. Just my guess though…
June 17th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Eyepatch…
God I hope your daughter never gets raped…
first to get raped and then her father to say its her fault… jebus…
June 17th, 2008 at 10:03 am
Everyone knows what Javon should have been doing but Javon no matter how you spin it. Kiffin told them at the last OTA they had better be ready when camp opnes and it would be easy to tell who was not. I hope Kiffin cuts him if he shows up out of shape.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:05 am
How did you bring father into the picture?
June 17th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Bottom line is….it is NOT Javons fault he got jumped and robbed. However, he should know better by now after the whole Darrent Williams tragedy, that he was involved in. Have a bodyguard or two…be alot more wiser when it comes to partying….be low key about it and don’t attract unecessary attention…..because there are plenty of low lifes that are just lookin to get into trouble in Vegas.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:05 am
What the fuk is wrong with you people? At this point all we know is that he may have been the victim of a crime. You guys want to give him crap about going out to Vegas and partying? WTF? What the hell is wrong with that? It is the offseason! He should have the right to go and do anything that you and I can legally go and do. Just because he is an athlete and has money does not mean he should have to sit at home and play cribbage every night.
Just because he displayed poor judgment by maybe flashing his bling and spraying the crowd with Champaign doesn’t mean he deserved to be beaten down and mugged, and that we should be calling for his head at this time. Almost all athletes walk around with their diamond earrings and necklaces and watches and they go to parties and have a good time. This could have just as easily happened to any athlete that walks around flashing his bling and having a good time.
Right now, with the information we have thus far, Walker is nothing more than a victim and we should just sit back and see how the story develops before passing judgment on the guy.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:05 am
eyepatch…
yeah… we get that, and most of us follows that thought, but to blame Javon is completely other thing… this will and cant go under mea culpa…. nor blame in more human terms..
June 17th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Post 707, Its not about whats in the contract i think your missing the point. Its about your commitment. Of course one could do what they want with their own time pretty obvious, but if you are truly committed you would take care of your body like most of the TOP atheletes do. Contract or not……
June 17th, 2008 at 10:07 am
Jebus christ!…
I better go now before I start say something I cant take back….
But the chain of thought in the US sometimes scares me..
June 17th, 2008 at 10:09 am
I blame him for making the descision to be in Vegas instead of working with Russell, yes. Russell and the rest of the backs and receivers are working together, its just not organized. If he can help us win I am all for him but he is looking more like a bust at this point, a very expensive bust. I just hope you guys don’t give him a pass if this ever happens again or Raider nation is really getting soft.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:09 am
I have a lot of sympathy for Javon Walker, the person. Being jumped in Vegas when you are out partying is crappy, it has happened to me (and probably most of us)on a night out and it is most unpleasant.
I don’t blame Javon Walker, the professional. What I do in my free time is of no concern to my boss, and so it is unfair to expect more of Javon.
But I am deeply dissapointed in Javon Walker, the recently signed Raider. As an employee who was given a great chance at a fresh start to his career, but who still needed to prove he was worth that opportunity, he has blown it big time.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Post 707, Is the occupation of soldier one that you should stay in shape or is it up to the individual?
Javon gets paid to play a game, a prereq is to stay in shape take care of your body. PERIOD
June 17th, 2008 at 10:10 am
You can’t blame him for being attacked. You can blame him for putting himself in a bad situation that would open a window of opportunity for people to attack him. Gotta wonder where his boys were to back him up. Either he got so drunk he was wandering around by himself and was easy pickens or it was a inside job.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:11 am
Thec…
I dont miss the point… the man has a bad knee, he is told he needs to get down in weight… he cant exercise properly because his knee is bad…
He knows his “WorkDay” is around the corner (= July-december) So he wants to have a night in the town before being on duty for the next 6 month…
As a former Soldier I can relate to that… how many didn’t get hammered before a mission? (Im not sayign they were drunk on mission, they of course sobers up before)
June 17th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Read some of the coments a little colser 701 its what was implied. The fact that others were to ready to talk about how this was going to effect him n the feild and how it was a stupid siging shows me that some people have screwed up priorties. Foot ball is only a damn game it will go on with or without Javon so will the Raiders, and life will go on in general rather or not the raiders win loose or draw.
My point is I am disapointed in the way some people chose to express themselves on here and how their priorties tend to be a bit skewed. Rather then to say wow thats too bad right away they jump on the fact that this will hurt the team or that he was an idiot I think that goes without saying it would just have been nice if some people had acknowledged the fact that the guy was beat up. I mean for crime sakes all post number 2 could say was horrible Signing or something like that. What does that got to do with the fact that he could have been killed and dont think for a second some idiot would have not jumped on here and said something stupid if he had been seriously injured and possibly killed its basic compasion!! Dont think for one second if he had been killed some idiot would not have jumped on here talking about how this was going to possibly hurt the teams offence next year or how he never should have been signed in the first place.
I also would not be supriesed if some idiot also simply posted 1st on here.
Show a little basic compasion people the way Big chill did first then if you want to get into a discussion on Javons character go a head but lets not all look like a bunch of heartless morons that only care about how this might effect good or bad the team on the field next year. Life in general is moe important then a game!!
June 17th, 2008 at 10:12 am
IDIB…
I agree… blame and fault are two completely different things
June 17th, 2008 at 10:15 am
He was in Oakland all week working out in the OTA´s wasn´t he?.
Do you guys think he was the only player who left town on the weekend and got wasted while partying somewhere? of course not, but he was the only one who got mugged and beaten down.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:17 am
And yet Aso sits unsigned in Oakland while Javon flaunts it in Vegas? Nice teammate. I wonder if he invited anyone on the team?
June 17th, 2008 at 10:17 am
TO maybe busted for steroids by the way….not sure if anyone heard.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:17 am
If that didn’t happen to him, it sounds like he would have showed up to OTAs hungover anyways. He took that big payday to be a leader of this team, and he is setting a terrible example. I say we make an example out of him and cut his blind ass. It sucks that he got mugged and everything, I’m not saying he deserved that, but what kind of DEDICATED player goes clubbing in Vegas until 6:30 Monday morning when he is expected in Almeda for practice the next day? This guy has his priorities royaly F’d up. He is not focused on helping the Raiders win games, he is more worried about his big paycheck and the hottest clubs on the Vegas strip. In short, he is an idiot for even being in Vegas that day. He is not dedicated to the Raiders, and we need someone who is.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:18 am
???… post 722
yeah…
and I find post irrelevant when the say thing as ‘people’ and ’some fans’… Adress it please.. otherwise its self-righteous…
June 17th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Post 721, I respect a lot of what you say on this board but i disagree with this post….
You can still work out with a bad kneee, he was on the filed during ota’s…… He can still work out and rehab, which is what he should have been doing….
Check the top atheletes in the winners circle in most sports what is their work ethic or
COMMITMENT TO EXCELLANCE”.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Bob Marley…
Again… I totally agree
June 17th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Lol, I am sure Javon Walker is the only professional athlete that goes out and parties in the offseason. He is the only athlete that ever drinks. Get real.
This guy has not been in trouble with the law, he has not gone out and gotten a bunch of DUIs, and as far as I know he has not been in trouble with the NFL, so why does this guy not deserve the benefit of the doubt in a situation like this?
Because he had a knee injury? Because AD paid him $55 million? Because he is a former Bronco? Because he is a loud mouth complainer? Why is this guy not getting a little time to explain himself before you guys crucify him?
Many of you are reacting to this like he is Pacman Jones or something.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:22 am
But Pacman was smart enough to surround himself with protection, now who looks like the idiot?
June 17th, 2008 at 10:24 am
From pft.com….the rumors are flying…
“There are completely unfounded rumors (we repeat . . . completely unfounded rumors) that the incident started with a champagne bidding war between Walker and Floyd Mayweather, and that a member of Mayweather’s entourage later stumbled upon Walker and proceeded to beat him into a pulp.”
June 17th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Thec…
yeah of course he can (might say could) do some light work out, but no lifting….
My point is, the guy was off duty… he knows he cant get blasterd the next 6 month… He is happy about his new team, knows he can win over his old team, he wants to celebrate with alcohol before its all vitamin shakes…
I can relate to that… But I udnerstand when people say its stupoid to put yourself in such a situation.. especially when you can offer a bodyguard…. hence the blame talk…
But I see a big, no huge difference between fault and blame…. but then again, I work with legal papers everyday, most here probably dont…
June 17th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Dakota,
I’m not crucifying anybody….however what worries me is Walkers judgement. I mean the guy had one of buddies die in his lap after a night of partying at the club. You would think that would be a life changing experience and wake up call when it comes to attracting unecessary attention and flashing his bling everywhere. You would think that he would have learned something from that tragedy right?
June 17th, 2008 at 10:26 am
We can all go back and forth on the why’s and how’s. But from the business side, if this guy is all F’d up now, and the Raiders can get out of this contract they should, and probably will, cut him. It’s not about his body being his business, it’s about his business being his body.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:29 am
waow Bob…
that wild.. I guess Hollywood screenwriters has something they need to get rid….I mean quite imaginative rumors..
I’ll come back later, when you know more, and hopefully the media has some real facts
June 17th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Bob Marley,
From pft.com….the rumors are flying…
“There are completely unfounded rumors (we repeat . . . completely unfounded rumors) that the incident started with a champagne bidding war between Walker and Floyd Mayweather, and that a member of Mayweather’s entourage later stumbled upon Walker and proceeded to beat him into a pulp
If this is true….then Mayweather is an even bigger pu$$y than I thought he was. He fights like a girl and is afraid to take the DLH rematch because papa knows his weakness’s and he runs from REAL competition like Cotto and Moseley and Margarito. Now he has one of his low life punks beat Walker, when he can’t do it himself? Mayweatehr is a wuss!
June 17th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Went to the pft.com “source”…it´s just a post on some board.
“Just talked to my boy, a bartender at Body English. He was working last night.
His story:
Javon and Floyd Mayweather both had tables, and got into a bidding war, buying champagne. According to him Javon bought over 30 bottles of Dom, and Floyd won, buying around 50 bottles of Cristal. When Floyd won, he then made it rain, throwing stacks of money off the balcony (The VIP tables are on a mezzanine overlooking the dance floor. Javon was on one side, and Floyd on the other).
The rumor making the rounds among the staff there is that someone in Mayweather’s crew jacked up Walker.”
June 17th, 2008 at 10:33 am
LMN, with all due respect your profession does not come into play, nor does it make your argument anymore relevant….
I am sorry it happended to Javon, but If it were me i would curfew myself….. I am a proessional athelete, i get paid millions of dollars to play a game, i would want to be the best so to get an edge on the crowd i would watch what i eat, watch my alcoholic intake to the nth degree. I would be on vitimin shakes even during the offseason. If i woke up in the middle of the night it would be pushups and situps PERIOD…
He was at OTA’s running around so your argument about his knee holds zero merit. Who said he could not lift or do the exercise bike? How do we know what he can and cannot due?
June 17th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Bob,
Mayweather is a PU$$! IF this is true….
June 17th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Walker’s arrogance- in spite of his sordid history- speaks volumes.His best friend died of gunshot wounds in his arms under similar circumstances.What a f*****g idiot! Deacon Jones in right. All power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Many of these obscenely paid ,out of touch, gangsta-athletes are ruining pro sports….. I hope D Hall’s capacity to learn from his mistakes is greater than Javon’s.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:35 am
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-7-586/Sad-similarities-in-Walker-story.html
June 17th, 2008 at 10:35 am
So, again…the pft.com Mayweather story comes from some dude posting on a board….take it for what it´s worth, they make sure to mention it is completely unfounded, I´m just passing it along.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Nooch Vader, AMEN…
June 17th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Jeez, no wonder the value of the dollar is in the toilet…teehee
June 17th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Thec…
I agree my profession has nothing to due with this, it just seem to me most here don’t understand the difference between fault and blame….
I blame Javon for putting him in that position, but it is the muggers fault for happening…
June 17th, 2008 at 10:41 am
Armond…
Give the racist crap a break. Everytime someone speaks the truth they get labeled a racist.
I said you are a thug because you are on here defending thug like behavior.
The shooting he was involved in followed an altercation AT A NIGHTCLUB. Not a Church, not sitting at home minding his own business.
That is why I can say that the pattern of behavior Walker has displayed has directly contributed to BOTH incidents he has been involved in.
Just because you can’t handle the truth and are obviously a thug, doesn’t make me racist. It just makes me right.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:41 am
I won’t make any replies in the next hour… if some here wants it, I will see if I’m able to later…
June 17th, 2008 at 10:43 am
If it is true that someone in Floyd’s crew did this, the Raiders can cut Javon, and he can sue Floyd for $16 million. There. Everyone wins.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:43 am
Eyepatch’s article….
There are some tragic ironies to the Javon Walker robbery story.
Walker went to Las Vegas in the days after Darrent Williams was killed in Denver on Jan. 1, 2007. Williams died in Walker’s arms in a rented limousine after the two attended a New Year’s Eve party in downtown Denver. Walker received a lot of criticism for going to Las Vegas and going to nightclubs instead of joining the rest of the organization in Fort Worth, Texas, at Williams’ funeral.
Walker said in an HBO interview last summer that he fled Denver for Las Vegas because he was scared for his life.
In that same interview, Walker said a melee started before Williams was shot because Denver receiver Brandon Marshall and his cousin were spraying champagne at the Denver nightclubs and that it agitated gang members in attendance.
According to a report in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Walker — who signed with Oakland after being cut by Denver this offseason — was spraying champagne at two Las Vegas nightclubs last weekend, including shortly before he was found unconscious.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:43 am
Darknight01,
All I am saying is let’s wait for the facts before passing judgment.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:43 am
From the looks of it the spraying is what got him beat up, not a mugger. They robbed him becuase they probably knew he had cash on him from one of the nightclubs.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:46 am
The weird thing is that all this wild partying talk is now making me wanna go to Vegas….maybe I´ll buy 30 Coronas and spray people with them.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:47 am
I choose to say some fans because at the point at which I jumped on here today there were already 640 som odd coments to remember the names and numbers off all the posts i took issues with so it was easier just to point out that some people need to lookk at the bigger picture here not just how it effects the team on the feild. So yes i am sorry some fans is how i choose to phrase this because I work graveyard and by the timeI logged in and startted reading its too much of a blure to reemember what dumb fool said what.
They know who they are and the fans that have a better since of reality know who they are I was simply poiinting out that some of the posters on here are screwed up, and if you read my very first post on here today i made it clear I did not read every stinking post before i got on here more then likely somebody else noticed the same thing i did and called them all on it. I am simply puting in my two cwents before bed time.
So yes I could cal out names or numbers but what good would thaat do my goal is not to mention who said what just that we need to remember what is truly important somebody else also said on here as of right now we have to assume he was a victim of a crime and we should not pas judgement on him until we know otherwise.
We can all agree his work habits have been called into question by the coaching staff ans we can debate rather or not he is comited to his craft or not but that is another issue from what happened yesterday.
if you also read my first post i told you my attitude about some of the posters on here has soured because of what one Poster implied about wanting Obama to end up like JfK. On another topic a few days back.
at this point i dont remember who said that. The post I made calling them on it never showed up why there piece of crap post stayed.
Rather they were joking or not is beside the point you should never implie you want somebody assinated. That is a idiotic statement to make and then they end there post by saying go raiders.
Sorry no class if i could remember the name they posted under or wanted to waste my time looking for it just to make my point i would but i read this blog to wind doen after workng all night Not to waste my time sorting through old coments to further illistrate my point. Besides what in sam hell does the presidential elections got to do with the raiders? Last i checked theis was not a political blog?? Maybe we are not all highly educated on here that is not a crime, but do we all have to make moronic post and lok like a bucnch of idiots?
Go ahead and express your opinions people but dont look like a bunch of heartless bastards doing it, and save your political views for the political blogs. If i want to discuss politics I will do so in the proper fourm not on here please lets keep this one on the appropriate subject matter the Raiders and at least for today we can all say its too bad about what happened to Javon before we rip him a new one for going to vegas for the weekened.
Damn 10:45 am already time flies when you are having fun i got to do a few things real quick and get to bed.
you all have fun guys just dont forget that there are things in life more important then how many passes if any Javon catches for the Raiders next season. have a good day one and all I got a date with my pilliow!
June 17th, 2008 at 10:47 am
//photos.tmz.com/galleries/javon_walker_las_vegas#19969
Just add the http: t the link above and check out some picks of Walker in Vegas.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Wow Eyepatch,
If that article you posted is true, that shows a startling lack of judgement on Walker’s part that would make me very leary of keeping him on this team, around so many impressionable rookies. People who make the same mistakes over and over again while drunk, cant be blamed for their drunken decisions, but they can be blamed for choosing to go out drinking despite a history of stupid behavior while intoxicated. Sadly I don’t think Al Davis would cut Javon this soon.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:49 am
K Rock, you don’t have to explain your racism. We get it. You probably grew up in the south or whatever, and you’re just accustomed to it. Your dad was probably a racist. We understand. You’re still our Raider bro. We just keep an eye on you, and we don’t tell you about functions where black people might show up. It’s for the best.
Anyhow, Bob Marley, did this thing with Javon really happen? Or is this all “pure conjecture” that the Raider hating press made up, like the Kiffin resignation, and our 19-61 record over the past 5 years?
June 17th, 2008 at 10:51 am
???.
Nobody is going to read that novel. Start your own blog. We wouldn’t even read a blog by Jerry that was that long, and he’s educated, and knows how to write. So where does that leave you?
June 17th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Well not going to Williams funeral says enough for me.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:52 am
MR…I´m still trying to figure it out, I´ll get back to you, those pictures seem a bit tampered to me…lol.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Has Oakie Poke logged on this morning? Oakglenn was huge on Walker. Now Oakglenn is calling him a lazy bum. So, Oakglenn, did the all knowing Al Davis make a mistake, or was it Kiffin’s idea to bring in Walker? Come on, Oak, I need my morning comedy.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:53 am
I sure would like to know the extent of his injuries.
I’m glad McFadden wasn’t with him.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:54 am
LOL Bob… That’s what I call making it rain.
I’m going in August. I guess I should leave my watches at home.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Senile King’s Aricept Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 10:33 am
“Deacon Jones in right.”
…….
LOL!
June 17th, 2008 at 10:57 am
If I wanted to lay low for awhile to hide from gang-bangers, Las Vegas would be my last choice. If nothing else, Javon Walker’s affinity for The Strip, should be raising red flags with the organization.
Pacman Jones was just a guy who liked eating breakfast at strip clubs until the “rain” incident. Sometimes its not about blaming these guys, or pointing the finger at their gangster image, its just about accepting that people who are always in the wrong place, will eventually be there at the wrong time. The Raiders need to decide if Javon’s talent is worth the risk of his bad judgement.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Its safe to say Kiffin and Davis wanted Walker but now Davis has the upper hand. With conduct clauses in the contract there’s no telling what he will do. Because its such a huge contract I would bet Walker is walking on very thin ice with Davis knowing he has a way out.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Mr. Your point is valid however.
I would not feel the need to write long post if certain things were not allowed to remain on here like that idiotic post a few days ago from some fool claiming to be a raider fan but saying he wanted to see a man assisnated Like JFK.
Maybe if they made us all registed and had moderators on here i would not feel the need to dron on MR…
Some of the coments made on here today and like that one a few days back just shows how far down the crapper this blog is going. time for moderators and handel verification.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:58 am
Eyepatch Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 9:37 am
You guys have too much sympathy for a man that can afford to have armed security 24/7 and yet seems to sniff out violent offenders.
…….
Especially a black man, right patch?
June 17th, 2008 at 10:59 am
???,
Are you directing long winded diatribes to me now, after I just told you I won’t read them? My god, you’re something else.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:59 am
MR quit bringing up race, thats your problem not ours.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Eyepatch Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Its safe to say Kiffin and Davis wanted Walker
……
I KNEW IT! IT’S STARTING!!!
June 17th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Oh oh. The broken record is back.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:00 am
RaiderMight…haha yeah, I´ll let you know how it turns out, I´m guessing not well.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Forget about this incident. Think about what we do know about this guy, as stated in post 751 above. Also, we know that he has really only had two good seasons. Now, think about Nnamdi. A pillar of the community, while also being one of the best at his position. I hate to question my favorite team’s priorities, but…
June 17th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Eyepatch, it’s cool. We know you and K Rock just grew up in racist environments. You can’t help it. You can’t help but to be a little more harsh on black athletes when they get in trouble than you are on white athletes. You may not even know it when you’re doing it. But you can’t fool us. The bottom line is though, eyepatch, is that you’re our Raider bro. We’re here for you. It’s cool. We’ll try and educate you, get some diversity in your life. I know you don’t want it, but it’s for your own good.
Oh, and patch, we got it. Kiffin was just as much at fault for bringing in Walker as Davis. We know Kiffin has equal control. Kiffin owns half of the team, and Davis owns the other half. Poor old Al. His hands were tied on this one. Can’t blame him…
June 17th, 2008 at 11:03 am
LOL that post on of min on 768 was not even that long and you are probably the idiot that made that coment I was talking about a few days back.
I maybe long winded and I know i sure as hel cant spell worth a crap. But at least i can respecrt people for who they are and dont judge them on how they look or where they are from.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Last time I was there was actually when Mayweather and Oscar faught. Didn’t go to the fight, as I don’t care too much about boxing (and the steap price), but it was crazy. I was out ’til around 5am walking around “half way drunk, but not throwing up”. Looking back, not a smart thing to do around that time.
It was fairly peaceful that night. There were cops everywhere!
June 17th, 2008 at 11:05 am
?????,
I totally agree with you, the most vile hateful, racist stuff is always allowed to remain, the Trolls are never moderated, yet when a poster reacts to that garbage, he’s banned. Obviously that’s the way the operators of this blog want it.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Here’s that picture of MR again.
http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?pnum=1&bfromind=8386&eeid=5934429&_sitecat=1522&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=2&ck=&ch=ne
June 17th, 2008 at 11:06 am
eyepatch, are you in to animal genitalia, like Dakota?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Nice one Eyepatch.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:07 am
???,
Again, listen, pay attention:
YOU ARE BORING. YOU CAN NOT BLOG. SHORTEN YOUR POSTS, AND MAYBE WE’LL START TO READ THEM.
Understand that?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:08 am
I wish this site would allow registrations. It would be a lot nicer. Less of a post count, but with less troll activity.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Raidermight, you’re just sitting there agreeing with people who are insulting me, instead of saying what you want to say. Now we’ve got your gender figured out. What’s good, baby? You got a boyfriend?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:10 am
What kind of chick names herself “Raidermight”, anyway? It should be RaiderGirl, or something, right? You a tomboy, Raidermight?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:13 am
I just don’t like you MR. You’re annoying and never say anything worth reading. You are nothing but useless spam. So go annoying someone who cares what you think about them.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:14 am
He is right about one thing though Kool Kell I am at times long winded and my spelling sucks and when i get tired or in a hurry it gets worse. LOL Guilty as charged.
I just dont like some of the coments that are allowed to remain on here its one thing when a Charger fan jumps on here and talks about how great his or her team is its quiet another when you make comments saying you support a predidential canidiate so he can end up being killed and I think its amazing how when i made a post calling this troll on that fact my post went kaboom and that piece of crap comment remained at least for a few days.
LOL and to think i used to bitch when some people whould fill up the blog with coments about basketball ok maybe thats not so bad after all at least they were still talking about a game not spouting coments that had absalutely nothing to do with sports. LOL!
June 17th, 2008 at 11:16 am
I don’t believe I’ve read more idiotic posts on this blog in my life. There’s so many factors to look at in this case.
1)The Las Vegas-Review Journal reported Walker was spotted at the nightspot “Tryst” at the Wynn “spraying the crowd with some of the 15 bottles of Dom Perignone Rose champagne he ordered.”
Spotted by WHO? This report sounds just like the infamous anonymous sources that have been reporting our ‘RELIABLE’ off season Raider info over the past 6 months. We don’t know what happened until more credible info comes out.
2)Whether he sprayed the club with champagne or not Javon’s mistake was simple and plain, he got too comfortable and didn’t watch his back. I live in Oakland and these type of incidents happen to people literally daily, and none of the victims have Javon Walker money.
If I drive around my neighborhood ‘flossing’ or attracting attention to the fact that I have alot of money, unfortunately I’m making myself a target for crime. It’s unfortunate but true.
Athletes and celebrities must realize that just because they are wealthy, they are not invincible or untouchable. When athletes go out they should have someone watching their back period.
Javon Walker is a VICTIM here, not a criminal. His mistake was no different than someone who gets robbed at an ATM machine because it’s late at night and they didn’t look around them to make sure the coast was clear. I wish him the best and a speedy recovery, but hopefully this will send a message throughout the league that athletes are not superhuman and need to take the same precautions that all the rest of us do in society.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Raidermight, baby, calm down. What is it, guy problems?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Well put, Kush. I don’t even think this is an issue. But I’m getting a kick out of all of the people who were once praising Walker now calling him a bum. I want to know from them if they think Al made a mistake for once in his life. Still no answer. Oh…except that they’re starting to blame Kiffin for Walker’s signing. But that was expected.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Mr. You keep calling attention to my posts.
That just shows that maybe I have a point you are a idiot and only wish to bad mouth people.
At least i aint out to be hurtful and i can respect people for who they is, and i already admit my spelling ext. Sucks you just state the obvious and most of my posts are not any longer then a lot of peoples on here.
But of course you aint reading this cus you are fricken king of the universe lets all bow down and pay homoage to great and wonderful Mr. To bad he will not read the part well I tell you all to respect the fool because he is so great and my posts are too long. LMAO
I aint getting no sleep but this is fun too.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:21 am
No one deserves to be the victim of a crime, but Walker’s judgment is horrendous. He’s 29 years old, not 22. He’s coming back from a serious injury and owes his best possible performance to a team that paid him a ton. And he went through the experience of having a friend and teammate die in his arms. Shouldn’t he have learned something by now? But he’s out all night, acting like a buffoon. It’s terribly sad and too predictable. The huge contract that Davis gave to Walker shows how out of it the boss is. Someone should ask Jerry Rice or Tim Brown how often they were out clubbing when they were 29.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Kush, go to tmz.com there is four pics of him spraying champagne. I agree with you he is a victim of crime and also a victim of his own stupidity.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:23 am
???,
Have you ever posted a comment less than 3 paragraphs? If you’re going to fill this blog up with long posts, take an adult course on writing. Read some Vonnegut, Twain, etc. Lean how to write, then maybe people will read your long winded bitch fests. As it stands, nobody reads a word you have to say beyond your first sentence. We can tell off the get go that you can’t right. You just keep trying, though. Sad.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:24 am
NEWS ALERT:
JUNE 17, 2008
LAS VEGAS, NV.
BSPN has confirmed that Oakland Raiders Wide Receiver Javon Walker rounded third. And, while he was sliding into home, his pants were according to witnesses “full of foam”. He was admitted into Las Vegas General Hospital for diarrhea…diarrhea.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Is this making it rain idea something gang related or just what high paid athletes do? Javon looks like Pacman but without the dollar bills and armed escort to me.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Vegas Raider, if he were white, you’d think he was a victim though, right?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:26 am
????,
Yeah I read those comments the other day and was disgusted, and said so, called out the Mods & Jon the online editor but……..they remained.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Eyepatch, now Javon’s a gang member? Where does it end, patch? Have you ever met a black athlete you liked, besides Tiger Woods, Sonny Liston, or the pre 1994 OJ Simpson?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:27 am
There’s two things that are relevant and concern me here:
1) I hope Javon Walker is ok and has a speedy recovery, and that’s my sentiments towards him as a human being.
2) Unfortunately for Javon this is a business. We need to start looking for a replacement. On the football field I truly believe that he is potentially DAMAGED GOODS! We need to start speculating on a new #1 receiver and how we can go about acquiring one.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:27 am
I said he was a victim, but he has to take some of the blame right? What the hell does race have to do with it?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:27 am
Patch, did dad use the N word regularly around you kids? When did it start for you?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:28 am
There is an old saying: trouble finds trouble…
June 17th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Quit manipulating what people say MR. Since you know so much answer the question, Is making it rain gang related or just what high paid athletes do?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:29 am
So then, Vegas, every victim has to take blame, right? Can’t have it both ways. If someone is a victim, they’re a victim. Period. We live in a society of laws. If someone didn’t like Javon spraying champaign on them, they should have notified the club management or authorities. They instead took the law into their own hands, which nullifies whatever victim status they had. At that moment, they became the criminals and Javon Walker became the victim. But you think Javon had it coming, because you have a problem with black athletes. Right?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Yes I have Mr. But why sould I give you the satisfaction and do it now?
See if they made us all register we would have a exact post count for each of us and you will see that most of the time my posts are not really any longer then over half the people that post here regularly. I just dont post more then every few weeks socant back that up. Spelling is a different issue I know that stinks but I dont care about that my point can still be made.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Eyepatch, when did it start? When you were a kid? Dad use the N word a lot in front of you?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Or do I have to get Armond to give me a straight answer?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:32 am
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June 17th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Your raceist lunacy is old MR.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Walker gets to prove he can catch the ball blind folded now for sure.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:34 am
You are an idiot. There is hundreds if not thousands of athletes/celebrities of all races that come here every week, go out stunting and have a great time spending thousands of dollars here. That’s fine. Only one of them was found beat up in a burnt out crack ally. My original statement was that he was a victim of a crime, and of his own stupidity.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Vegas, 9/11 victims brought it on themselves, right?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:35 am
seeing MoRon posting on this site must be like looking down and seeing genital warts.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:36 am
#812 Maybe if he only injured one eye he can where a eyepatch on the field. There you go Mr. only 2 sentences this time just for you buddy.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Vegas, if Walker were white, you wouldn’t be as harsh though, right? You’d have his back. You’d want to know who did this to him, right?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:38 am
I say its stupid.
http://www.blackvoices.com/blogs/2007/02/26/it-s-official-make-it-rain-is-the-new-bling-bling/
June 17th, 2008 at 11:38 am
OAKGLENN, BUDDY OLE PAL, RISE AND SHINE!!!! WE WERE WAITING ON YOU.
SO, NOW THAT YOU’RE HERE…
DID THE GREAT ALL KNOWING AL DAVIS MAKE A MISTAKE BY SIGNING WALKER?
You were calling Walker a bum last night. Saying he’s not earning his money. Al just signed him like a few months ago, dude, and boy, were YOU on board, using Walker’s signing as proof that Al certainly still has what it takes!!!
So…Did Al screw up, or are we going to drop this off on Kiff’s door step? Let’s hear it, Oak. I need a laugh.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Rocky Balboa says to Mick, “I’m seeing triple!” Mick says “hit the one in the middle!” lol
June 17th, 2008 at 11:38 am
I do want to know who did this so they can arrest him and make MY TOWN SAFER!! Why do you keep bringing up race? And putting words in my mouth?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Guess what Darrent Williams and Walker were doing the night Darrent was shot and died in Walker’s arms… yep – spraying bottles of champagne in a night club.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Maybe this is just what Walker needs and kick up the a$$(or punch in the eye) so that he starts gettin in shape, working harder and thinkin about his life. He must be lying in his hospital bed just waiting to be released and get fit and prove his critics- such as me- wrong. I hope he does. Hopefully he will get the grey tracksuit on a pull a Rocky Balboa
June 17th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Eyepatch, how much of your day to you spend shaking your head at blacks?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:42 am
What I want to know is if the Raiders have a non football related injury clause to his contract? Lets hope they do….
June 17th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Eyepatch, do you focus on black behavior to distract yourself from how screwed up whites are, anymore? The Paris Hiltons, you know? Figure as long as your people aren’t as bad as blacks, everything is ok? Is that sort of the gist behind your racism?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Hey MR. since you keep bringing race to everything why don’t you go read about Jesse Lee Patterson and see what he thinks about young black athletes. Race mongor
June 17th, 2008 at 11:44 am
It has nothing to do with being black. Its about knowing where you are and what you could get into, but ignoring the obvious. Walker needs his contract voided and redone if he wants to play this year.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Listen Up Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Guess what Darrent Williams and Walker were doing the night Darrent was shot and died in Walker’s arms… yep – spraying bottles of champagne in a night club.
Yep…its’ sad they Walker hasn’t learned anything since that tragedy.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:44 am
What’s the gist behind your racism MR?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Oakie Poke…
Come out and plaaaayaaaaaaayayyyyyyyy
Did Al make a mistake by signing Walker?
Was it Kiffin’s fault?
Are you as excited now about Walker as you were before this story broke? Who’s to blame for your let down? It’s not Al, obviously. Kiffin, right? I mean, Kiffin does own half of the team. So Al’s hands were tied, right? Come on, give us some of that Al Davis is never wrong cheese.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Vegas Raider, I’m not a racist. I don’t blame black people for every freaking thing that’s wrong with the world, like you and Eyepatch.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Are the people in here Raider fans? Everybody know Raider fans party hard represent Raiders to the fullest. I can’t believe all the people who are putting Javon down . I know he shouldn’t have bee there that late but we most peoplw who party in thier 20’s party hard. Things like this happen. It’s a damn shame,but lets be behind him, not talk crap about him, you damn losers!!!!!!!!!! Raiders for life, and anyone who wears the jersey!!!!! we all make mistakes fools.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:47 am
MR isn’t a racist, he hates everybody.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:47 am
MR in his finest hour.:)
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June 17th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Wow the rumours are really flying and you guys are going for them hook line and sinker. This is quite entertaining. “My brother knows this guy who knows this other guys who once knew a bathroom attendant at Body English and he said…”
June 17th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Over/under on Raiders wins this year is 6 here in Vegas. Then Niners are 5.5.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:49 am
First of all, I hope Javon is ok. Talking about restructing his contract at this point is a non-issue. The hit on the cap number would cause great harm to the structure of the team.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Wanted to buy a white McFadden jersey the other day, but the last two white jerseys I bought were Jeff George and Randy Moss. I didn’t want to put the hex on and bought the home black instead.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Not if there is an non football related injury clause, most contracts have them.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:52 am
BTW – the one thing this board really needs is a spell checker. You guys are mutilating the english language!… I think they still have dictionary’s. Come on, show some pride in your language…
June 17th, 2008 at 11:52 am
# BART Bridge Balla Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 11:47 am
MR isn’t a racist, he hates everybody.
………
You know? I can agree with that. I don’t hate everyone, literally, but I do hate most people. I believe the human race has peaked and is on it’s way down the sewer, and there’s absolutely no stopping it. So, yeh, I’ll take that label.
Thing is, people like eyepatch and vegas see the world the same way I do, they just blame black people for it all.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Humans will migrate into outerspace, so thats a mythology you are following just like your racist rants.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Let’s make spraying champagne illegal, as it obviously leads to extreme violence every time it happens.
Racism is a much different animal when it’s white on dark. Whites own most of this country, are on average wealthier, and are the majority of the population. Whites have the ability to oppress and suppress other races and ethnicities that go against the white grain. Non-whites cannot oppress whites. ‘Thugs’ just have misplaced anger, if they organized and sought revolution whites would still hate, not to mention be scared outta their minds.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:59 am
I never freakin said that!!! Your credibility is going down the sewer faster than the human race ( which I agree with you by the way)
June 17th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
you know , i come here day after day and listen to a bunch of crap about racism and people generalizing or stereotyping other people. Can people in here grow up?
Real raider fans who actually go to the games and buy
jerseys and put Raiders logos on their cars do not care about crap like this. We are here to represent raiders and to accept all different types of raider fans. I go to several games every year and party with everyone. I take the games harder than most. I have four sons and they are Raider fans. STop talking crap about each other and be positive. Stay up Javon!!!!
I am here in norther california with you!!!!!
Raiddddddeeeeerrrsssss!!!!!!!!!!
June 17th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
STOCKTOWN RAIDER Says
“Real raider fans who actually go to the games and buy
jerseys and put Raiders logos on their cars do not care about crap like this.”
Like that really makes a “real” Raider fan….give me a break….
June 17th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
“Real” Raider fans come from all walks of life. Al Davis is color blind and always has been and that should be something we should all try to attain in our day to to day lives. Drop the racism crap. It has no place here…
June 17th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Don’t worry about Walker, he’s got speed, I still got it.And no I won’t let that Kiffin kid coach MY team…But I’ll blame him if things go wrong.
Damn, where the hell is my walker, did I tell you about, oh I forgot what I was talking about.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
mayweather and his crew are low lifes, mayweather is a wuss and walker should have learned by now to act properly and responsibly after a friend died in his arms.
Thats it…
June 17th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Agree Darkknight. He should have learned.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
darkKnight or batman
I don’t need to say any more. Your name says it all.
Have you been to a Raider game?
Raider fan 25 yrs. I have it tatood on my back arms.
How can you prove you are a Raider fan?
I don’t need to put you down to get my point across.
All four of my son’s rep Raiders from 14,12,10 to 6 yrs
old. you can’t question my loyalty. What about you?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
MR Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Oakie Poke…
Come out and plaaaayaaaaaaayayyyyyyyy
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hah !!!! The Warriors… great movie, nice reference…
that’ll probably be the last nice thing i say to you…
June 17th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Hope Higgins, Carter, Curry or one of our rookies can step up because I don’t think Walker is going to be a factor this season. We are now going to become even more of a running team.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Maybe we should trade RB L. Jordan to the giants for TE J. Schokey…
June 17th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Don’t worry raidernation, I’m on the phone Lance Alworth right now…Get ready for bambi!!!!!! He’s got speed!
June 17th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
MR Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 11:52 am
…..
I believe the human race has peaked and is on it’s way down the sewer, and there’s absolutely no stopping it. So, yeh, I’ll take that label.
…..
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i now understand… your negativity springs from your believe that we, people, are on our way downhill…
the cockroaches are taking over…
and you are currently in negotiations with the roaches to be their king…
TRAITOR !!!!
June 17th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Hey. are any of you guys fast? 4.3 sub 40’s I pay big money to….If you don’t work out don’t worry…I’ll blame it on that kid Kiffin.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Did I tell you I still got it.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Maybe I should have payed him $67 million, that way he could have afforded 2 more bottles of Dom…one in each hand to defend himself against his attackers.
Somehow I blame that kid Kiffin for this…Did I tell you I still got it.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Nothing good happens to celebrities who stay out at these hours.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 3:33 am
Jim, Walker’s a millionaire and you’re not. Your mother taught you the value of hard work and that’s exactly what you do, work hard for very little. Walker’s mother taught him absolutely nothing and he’s bathing in money. God bless America. But what I want to know is, are the people who were praising Walker’s signing, calling it a genius Al move, and who are now bashing Walker, going to admit that Al f’ked up? I think not.
MR: If you check our posts when we signed walker mine read, “that’s a lot of money for a #4 receiver!”
also, 4.5 more years and i’ll be included in that group of people!
June 17th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Hey 510.
I didn’t negotiate a savvy enough contract to dump him, but I did negotiate a savvy enough contract that if it didn’t work out I could blame that kid Kiffin.
Did I tell you I still have it?
June 17th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Darknight
I am disspointed as well. Maybe hes still medicating that pain of that incident with alcohol. From my own experience-its easy to do.
Pain is real no matter how much money you have.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
There’s alot of complaining out there. Why? Javon took a shot to the eye to get the raiders back in the news! No such thing as bad press I say.
Have I told you guys I still got it.
Has anyone seen my walker?
Betcha that kid Kiffin hid it.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
1 Thug is a behavior and a choice. Not a skin color
2 I would call Tony Romo out for making poor decisions. Wait a minute, HE ALREADY DOES. He puts himself in bad situations that hurt himself and his team.
3. Walker was engaging in behavior that got his friend killed and got himself hurt.
4 Cheeseburger was doing the same thing. Not being a thug, but clearly engaging in activities that got himself hurt. Just as dumb as Walker
5 Making it rain, hangin at clubs, fighting with gangs, having a POSSE would all be considered THUG LIFE activity for me.
Once again, skin color has nothing to do with it.
It’s ok. I understand that calling me racist is easier than looking in the mirror and confronting yourself over THUG BEHAVIOR.
The real problem is you want people to excuse your bad behavior and call them racist if they don’t.
June 17th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
“living the life and paying the bill..”
June 17th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
This sort of problem always happened on my watch. I remember the Tooz,Snake, and Phil always getting gassed the night before a game.
Al always told me how they play on Sundays is what matters.I was lucky to learn so much from Al.
Anbody seen or heard from Madden Raider. I was told he was giving me all the credit during my time as an assistant to Al. Sadly that is not the truth, I just want you to tell Madden Raider that he is just all wrong. Good luck in 2008, I wish I were there, Raider fans your in good hands with Al.
June 17th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Ron, maddenraider, or MoRon, as he likes to be called, is on his honeymoon from his gay marraige yesterday here in Cali.
June 17th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Stocktown,
Don’t question my loyalty either guy…I have been a Raider fan since I was 5 years old and I’m 33.
Just cause you have a Raider tattoo doesn’t make you anymore of a fan. I have a Bo Jackson, Marcus Allen and Tim Brown jersey. I lived in enemy territory representing the Raiders when I lived in S.D. for 10 years. So whats the big deal?
June 17th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
I hope stories like this remind players to be smart when they are in public. I hate seeing anyone hurt like this especially a player on our team. These types of senseless attacks are just sad and a reminder that thugs are always looking to steal, kill and cheat rather then work hard to achieve something.
June 17th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
The Raiders screwed up when they signed Walker to the long-term deal and Drew Carter to a one-year contract. Carter was the much better value pickup and will almost definitely be a better player for the Raiders.
I realize that Walker is the victim here, but it seems like he was being foolish flaunting his money by spraying a crowded club with $$$ champagne. The bigger issue is that all the reports and vibes about Walker since he signed for his money have not been good. This is just the capper. Sounds like he’s out of shape and unmotivated — happy to fade away into oblivion.
Maybe this will be a wakeup and he’ll get himself together. I just hope he’s not too f’d up to play again because of his new and old injuries.
June 17th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Its been reported Javon wasnt even drinking but a argument btween Javons group n Floyd Mayweathers troops got into over a bidding war on the champaigne.May explain a guy of jws size getting the crap beat out him .Hope we stop rushing to judgement.
June 17th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
think Javon was spraying all that champange to practice for the Raaaiiiddduuuuhhhssssss winning the Super Bowl this year. Any other reason for spraying that much Dom is just plain stupid
June 17th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Kiffin said it best…”it’s an important month for the vets!…refering to between the end of nex week and July 25th. Poor judgement is gonna cost us in this one. Javon should have been studying his play book instead of gambling with his new found fortune. I’m sorry he was attacked, it’s dreadful. Seems no one is safe, but good judgement can’t be beat. Roethllisberger’s motorcycle accident was an err in judgement but that was kinda different. It’s not like Walker is John Matuszak, or Alzado, or Otis Sistrunk.
This is an important time for vets! I hope that the rest of them are paying attention. Walker is actually lucky to be alive. While I was not there, so I can only speculate, he was probably loaded wtih both Dom Perignon and CASH.
How much guaranteed money did he get in his contract, $16 million? I hope Al has a stupidity clause in the fine print. STUDY YOUR PLAYBOOK! PERFORM WELL! GET PAID!
I like Higgins, Will Buchanon, Arman Shields, or Chaz Schilens, behind Curry and Carter, dispite that they are unproven. A good many teams field youngsters that perform well.
Anyway, I hope that he is ok, for his sake. I’d never wish anyone harm. There are, however, consequences for irresponsibility. Period!
June 17th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
eyepatch u are a idiot if ive ever seen or in this case read one. i am very proud of who i am. get over your race issues or better yet why didnt u answer the question i gave u. so typical of idiots like u to play the angry black man card when a valid argument was raised. dakota were u retarded for arguing all of the times u were posting? ive seen several of your posts go on and on so dont tell me how to post. this is a blog most people on here dont do anything but argue.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Armond you are an idiot.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
no Krok your an idiot for saying im a thug cuz i defend thug like behavior. not once have i done that and u know it. people get labeled a racist for telling the truth like i did yet u call me a thug and dont even know me. u are a punk and a racist. whats funny i didnt call u a racist. i asked if u are one or just stupid. but thanks for answering i now know youre not just stupid. and what i brought up was javon not being involved in more than 1 shooting as suggested. as for that silly reply do i have to simplify it for u? if u are at a club and someone shoots at u then u are also involved in a shooting. point being u dont have to shoot someone to be in a shooting? are u that damn dumb?
June 18th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Ha Ha! Jerkvon is a PERFECT fit for the Traider nation!
Stupid freakin’ punk! Too bad he wasn’t permanently busted up!
Go ahead and make it rain, you stupid freakin moron!
June 18th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Hopefully Walker’s contract has a clause for this type of behavior especially if he brought it upon himself for his antics at the club that can get us out of his big contract. They seem to put clauses in for reckless behavior (i.e.-motor/extreme sports, etc).
June 18th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
All of a sudden Shanny looks like a genius. Mevon Walker is all about himself. Good luck with that one Raider Nation. I can’t think of a more deserving team.
June 18th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
I don’t care who your team is but to think that he “deserved” this is asinine to me. This guy was a victim regardless of how you look at it. I don’t care whether you like him or not but whoever mugged and robbed him is the person who normal peopleI should be upset at.
If you somehow feel good that this happened to him then I say you need to take a good long look at the mirror and figure out what kind of person you are.
June 21st, 2008 at 9:04 am
The guy is out in Vegas wearing his bling and dropping cash all over the place (spraying Dom does get you noticed). Then he gets robbed. Duh. Wonder what is higher; his GPA in college or his IQ.
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