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Source: Raiders to sign Keller today

By Jon Becker
Wednesday, June 25th, 2008 at 9:46 am in Oakland Raiders.

UPDATE: Steve Corkran reports that Keller’s signing is official. The Raiders waived QB Erik Meyer to make room for him.

Looks like the Raiders’ backup quarterback situation is going to get a bit more muddled, with word coming from a source close to Sam Keller that the ex-San Ramon Valley High, Arizona State and Nebraska signal-caller will sign with Oakland today.
Keller worked out with the Raiders at a post-draft mini-camp, but left without signing a contract. The Raiders later re-signed Marques Tuiasosopo, who joined Andrew Walter as the main competitors to back up JaMarcus Russell.
Keller would join Erik Meyer and Jeff Otis, giving the Raiders six quarterbacks heading into training camp in July. Our reporters thought Keller was actually more impressive than both Otis and Meyer in May.

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2,134 Responses to “Source: Raiders to sign Keller today”

  1. no more infield Says:

    Who? Better idea – Jordan for J. Shockey straight up…

  2. no more infield Says:

    First! Primero! OMG OMG!!! What do I win? And I’m last too! What a day!

  3. Riverside Raiders Fan Says:

    Good morning Raider fans…

    Note, for the George Carlin fans, HBO will be running some of the specials he did for them starting tonight at 8 pm and Thursday night at 8 pm as well. For you youngsters or for those that have never seen George Carlin, you might want to check him out if you have HBO.

    No comment on Kelly, stick with Walter and Tui.

  4. El Dirty Says:

    can shockey block?

  5. Scottish Raider Says:

    Signing Keller would be a smart move. He clearly has talent and potential. Andrew Walter doesn’t fit the system, he just doesn’t have the mobility and should be traded. The big issue is whether Tui has enough talent/presence to hold down the back-up job. If he does, then a trio of JR, Tui and Keller looks balanced and compatible. If not, then Dilfer is worth a look as the experienced back-up.

    Keller gives us the raw materials to train JR’s long-term back-up.

  6. raiders4life Says:

    Any word on Nnamdi Asomugha? This guy hasnt singed his franchise tender and no word on a long term deal i hope this guy gets signed already Jordan should be released to make room on the cap to pay Nnamdi already whats going on!!!!!

  7. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Sam Keller QB 6’4 241 Nebraska 4.91
    By: Robert Davis
    Keller spent his first three seasons of college at Arizona St. He took over the starting job as a junior in 2005, and had an amazing start to the season. In the first seven games, he threw for 2,165 yards and 20 TD’s to just nine interceptions until he went down with a hand injury. A QB battle in which Rudy Carpenter was named the starter caused Keller to transfer to Nebraska, where he sat out the 2006 season. His only season with the Huskers was cut short with a left shoulder injury but he still managed to throw for 2,422 yards, while completing over 63% of his passes for 14 touchdowns and ten interceptions.

    Keller has all the skills to develop into a quality pocket passer. He has a very good arm, capable of making every throw on the field. He is not afraid to unleash the ball all over the field, and has the confidence in his ability to make big plays. Keller has good size and the frame to be able to take hits in the pocket and continue to get up. He still has some development and upside left in his game.

    Inconsistency has been the big issue with Keller. He has made some questionable decisions at times, and may believe in his arm too much. He will try and force the ball into coverage to make a play instead of seeing the field and making the smart decision. He also has less that two seasons of starting experience at the college level, so he still needs more work.

    Sam Keller is a quarterback that needs more time, but has the skills to develop. He needs more experience overall, especially in the aspect of reading a defense. If a team can have some patience and be willing to develop his skills, he is a player that could develop into a legitimate NFL quarterback.

  8. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Sorry, I wasn’t able to just post the link.

  9. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Sports…..

    Thanks for the tid-bits, and giving us our FIX.

  10. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I just hope Nnamdi Asomugha doesn’t ask the Raiders not to franchise him next year before he signs the offer sheet.

  11. raiders4life Says:

    I hope Nnamdi doesnt do that we need him on this team i hope he doesnt hes my favorite defensive player and a home grown talent.

  12. raiders4life Says:

    He deserves that big contract without a doubt i hope Al will give it to him hes got phenomenal skills and is a stand up guy good character and never has problems off the field he would set a great example for the others on the team for years to come. I say pay da man AL whats the hold up?????

  13. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Nnamdi is doing what all other franchise players do and that is sit out of practices until they are mandatory. Because of the obvious reason, injury and no guarantee in a franchise on year contract.

    wearing the franchise tag is not a popular thing in the NFL because if you get hurt your screwed. So why show up for voluntary practice and risk injury.

    Don’t worry by mini camp he will be there and ready to go.

  14. Dakota Says:

    I hate the University of Nebraska and all of its shiitty players.

  15. Scottish Raider Says:

    Now that Shane Olivea has been banned for four games for failing a drug test, any team could get him for the minimum. Okay, we won’t be available until Week 5 and he wasn’t hugely impressive for the Bolts in 2007. BUT. The Shane Olivea of 2004 to 2006 was one of the best OTs in the league and if we could get his head straight and his motivation sorted, I think he would be a bargain.

    We desperately need some quality depth at OT. Harris is a gamble. Green is a journeyman. McQuistan isn’t trusted and Henderson isn’t (yet) tough enough.

  16. christian Says:

    I have a report on Sam Keller his strengths are makes big plays with arm and legs shows the athleticism to avoid sacks when sensing pressure.Has the body control to reset and throw accurately when scarmbling.Tends to set up and throws quickly.when striding into passes,he makes NFL throws with velocity and accurately.weaknesses struggles to consistently to make good decisions and accurate throws in tight situations.he threw bad ints in important college games.has trouble with footwork.sometimes gets flat footed and relies on his arm strngth to delver the ball loseing accurately allowing defenders more time to break on the ball.

  17. Quagmire'd Says:

    Keller is a project. We need a proven back-up, not Tui & sure as hell not Walter.

  18. raiders4life Says:

    I hope so July 25 we need Nnamdi signed and in camp preferably to a big 5-6 year deal.

  19. Dakota Says:

    Scottish,

    He was banned for illicit drugs and SD said he seemed to have “lost his motivation.”

    Looks like the dude is finished, why risk exposing our young ones to more trouble? I know we need more depth, but this guy is not the answer…unless we hire Dr. Phil and check him in to the Betty Ford clinic.

    At this point in the offseason it is going to be pretty difficult to upgrade the o-line. Hopefully the o-line and d-line are priorities in the next offseason.

    Pray that Cable can work more miracles.

  20. saintkaufman Says:

    Sounds like Marshall is going to be on the suspension block by the beginning of the season. No Walker, no Marshall, no Henry. I like the way the Broncos are headed!!

  21. Raiderwoj Says:

    sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=williamson_bill&id=3455402

    May give you a little insight on Walker.

  22. Scottish Raider Says:

    Dakota,

    You’re probably right. I am just really concerned about our lack of alternatives at LT and the search for a credible starter at RT.

    I thought McQuistan did a reasonable job at RT for the last five games of the 2007 season. He looked like a possible long-term solution, but he isn’t even getting any RT reps.

    We might not yet be desperate enough to take a risk on Olivea, but we aren’t far away.

  23. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hello!!! I found myself,WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    If Keller has shown retention of the playbook since the Spring, it would appear he is already battling Andrew Walter for the #3 spot. Tui was groomed under Gruden, and Kiff appears to be using a similar offensive philosophy as Gruden.

    Tui is already the #2, without it being said, although Walter has more potential to be trained-up further. Ironic that Walter still has trade value, where Tui would have none if he were offered up.

    At the risk of putting too much faith in the young defensive linemen who appear to be impressing everyone in OTA’s and such — it’s time to package Walter in trade to a team that can better use his talents, in exchange for another WR or offensive lineman. AW could start for any number of teams in this league, and those teams’ GM’s know it. Couldn’t have an easier contract to trade, either.

  25. Joe Bugel's hair. Says:

    Wow. That was am insightful article. I’ll admit, I slammed Javon pretty hard. But, it is a pretty sad situation. Hopefully, he’ll seek some sort of help. For his sake and ours.

  26. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Maaaaan that was a damn hard day!

    4 hours sleep, and a 12 hour watch, thank God I got home before the game started =)

  27. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # blandafan Says:
    June 24th, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 24th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    …in the army…

    You served? Let me just say: THANKS.
    _______________________________________________________

    No Problem, perhaps I should add it wasn’t in your army, I think your guiys would get pissed if I showed up mine/our uniforms (DK’s uniforms)

  28. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Kudos to AD for bringing in Keller. We need competition at reserve QB so that a trustworthy #2 emerges and we can trade away Walter – our only player with trade value who we can afford to dump.

    I would love Keller to have a great camp, trade Walter (and the big dummy #34?) for some depth at OT, WR or SAM LB, and let Tui finish his otherwise unremarkable NFL career as a loyal Raider third-stringer. #3 QB is the one position where an AD scholarship type player is OK.

    I also wouldn’t mind if Walter went somewhere in the NFC and lived up to his talent. He had a relatively good attitude while getting pummelled 2 years ago, and deserves better than he’ll get in Alameda.

    Food for thought: Can you imagine how Gannon would have reacted if he were the starter under Walsh/Shell? NUCLEAR. In that scenario, I actually think Gannon would have gotten Shell fired mid-season.

  29. Chris in NY Says:

    Jordan for Shockey is an absolute pipe dream. Jordan essentially has no trade value because of his inflated contract. The Raiders will just have to cut him loose. Everybody knows it. Plus, while I would definitely like to see Shockey in Silver & Black, I doubt the Raiders would want to do that to Z. Miller after the promise he showed as a rookie.
    Shockey is an OK blocker, not great but servicable, but he is a great playmaker who the Giants have under-utilized for years. He’d definitely be a great personality fit in Oakland. Fiery, tough and a bit of a headcase. I remember watching this Giants-Eagles playoff game at a bar two years ago, and the place just went berserk on this play by Shockey:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx02CbpPcGY

    ———

    Walter doesn’t seem to fit. He never had a great opportunity, but I don’t like QBs with zero mobility. You could point to the game’s top 2 QBs and say that mobility doesn’t matter. But Brady and Manning both are excellent at avoiding the first wave of pass-rushers and then hitting an open receiver — usually for a big gain.

    Walter is more in the mold of Kerry Collins and Drew Bledsoe. Those guys both had decent careers behind a pair of big arms, but they’re absolute statues and turnover machines. That’s why their careers are finishing up as backups. Bledsoe, Collins and Walter all still have elite arms, but the immobility of all three makes them prone to an excessive number of turnovers and sacks.

  30. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    Scottish — Almost without exception, every one of the “problem child” players let loose in the past year, has done something to further their suspensions, or otherwise add to their bad reputations.

    How many times on this board have we seen guys crying for a player (Henry, Thurman, et al) who ends up being at least as bad (or stupid) as his rep? Every time that happens to a player who occupies a coveted roster-spot, it moves the team back, not forward.

    We want football questions and answers, not questions of character. Look at the hype surrounding Javon Walker — a guy who appears to have done nothing other than exersize his right to be stupid at times.

    Imagine what it would’ve been like if this happened on a night off a few months from now. Assuming Javon is worth the money (even half the money) of his contract, this event would’ve been devastating to a team that needs every player to be responsible for his actions — on and off the field.

    Characters, yes. But, no more players of questionable character.

  31. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Shockey is a white Randy Moss. He’ll show up when winning but become a distracting headcase on a losing team. We just dumped a few players with similar mental shortcomings (Porter, Fabe, Brayton) and we’re about to jettison our last example: Lamont “I may be outta shape, but at least I don’t know the playbook” Jordan.

  32. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    OK, maybe not our last example. MeAngelo Hall and Walker certainly need to prove they are grown men when winning AND losing.

  33. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMN,post27;Denmark is and will be our ally.I say thank you too.I never had 2 serve,but I have the UTMOST RESPECT 4 those that did serve 2 save the world from tyranny,oppresion and things just plain wrong.I cant believe youre still awake,with caffine ban and all!!!!!GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  34. JediRaider Says:

    Our QB situation is baaaaaad if J.R. goes down. Tui is worse than McCown who would have been a good back-up/mentor/role model for JaMarcus. He’s the type of guy that could come in for a couple games and run the offense o.k. Tui is terrible and Walter doesn’t fit the scheme. Keller is merely camp fodder – I’m sure he’ll be better than Otis and Meyer, but he’s in the same mold of Walter, tall and slow, except not as good. We need a vet than has won some games in this league – Leftwich is still out there and I thought he was better than Culpepper, who is also still out there. Culpepper obviously doesn’t want to be a mentor and still considers himself a starter, so his attitude can go someplace else. Leftwich has won some games without Randy Moss and would probably appreciate the opportunity – he’s not mobile, but he could hand the ball off and make some plays off play action, something that Tui can’t do because he can’t see the field. Losing McCown and his one year of experience in the system hurt us because we could have had an open competition for the other QB spot with Walter – we should have gone after Andre Woodson or Dennis Dixon as developmental players – Right now we’ve got 6 QB’s with something like 10 games of NFL experience between them. We have to go after somebody that has done it at this level.

  35. 909raiderlifer Says:

    HAHAHA…Former Bengals wide receiver, Chris Henry. Had his SUV repossessed, in the courthouse parking lot. While appearing for jury selection, in his assault trial in Cincinnati..

    Per, pft.com

  36. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Shockey is an id1ot… no brain, just talk… why on earth would we want a cancer like that on our roster??? he’s been out for a year, and Miller is better!

  37. Eyepatch Says:

    JR won’t go down because we will be running the ball 30-40 times per game. Kiffin is going to do what Gruden did not, which is listen to Davis and throw deep once in a while.

  38. Huff24 Says:

    LMN – You could show up to our country in your uniform because our uniforms are sitting in another country helping someone else.

  39. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Gruden had a QB with poor downfield arm strength and WRs who couldn’t run past anybody. I don’t blame him for not going downfield. I blame Gruden for being too conservative, especially when we had the heady vets necessary to execute risky gameplan (which Trestman DID do after we traded Chucky).

  40. 909raiderlifer Says:

    LMN…#36 Very good point there, Miller should be an ALL-PRO for many years.

    Who you got in the match. Germany or Turkey?

  41. Huff24 Says:

    Keller is a nice addition of talent. I thought he was going to stick and he got cut so I’m happy to see him back. Hes has to be better than Meyer and Otis. The thing that concerns me about Tui is that Gruden drafted him but Gruden didn’t pick him up when he was a free agent and Gruden has no problem picking up 12 QB’s at one time. Why would the man that supposedly drafted him to be the successor to Gannon, not pick him up and give him a tryout? I honestly don’t see Keller being better than Walter.

    Walter was a 3 year starter who wasn’t injury prone until he hurt his shoulder his senior year. He got beat down in the Shell/Walsh era and continued to get up again and again. Hes tough and more polished than Keller.

  42. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4evaRaider…

    yeah about the last one you got… I stopped wearing uniform just before all this desert stuff started, I didn’t want anything to with that… thank God for that decision… but our ships transport most of your troops cargo around the globe…

  43. La Milicia Negra Says:

    909…

    before it started, I thought it was a no brainer… Germany would win.. but now i’m not so sure, I like the Turks stamina and their will to win… they have pleasantly surprised me

  44. Quagmire'd Says:

    Did Spain get bounced already?

  45. 4evaRaider Says:

    just further proof of someone we dont need,I mean if you have all this cash,WHY in the world wouldnt you pay cash???I dont want Henry anywhere near Oakland.Serves him right,imo

  46. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Uhh and btw….

    please give McCain some education before he gets president, if yuo elect him, that is…

    Denmark shares boarder with Germany, McCain thinks Putin are president of Germany, McCain hates Putin… the problem is…putin isn’t from germany or their president!!!

    how can you be a leader of a nation and dont know anything about other nations??? I’m starting to think the president election isn’t who’s best its about who is the dumbest, especially lately =)

    ahhh, just had to get that off my chest… sorry if some here got offended by it, but I stick to leaders should be at least above average….shouldn’t they?

  47. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Q..

    nope spain plays tomorrow against russia

  48. JediRaider Says:

    I agree with the poster who wants Olivea – having a bonified starter at ROT would be key for us – it will allow us to send Miller out into pass patterns more often and help out whoever starts at LT with the FB or RB. The core of our line should be o.k. with Gallery, Wade (or whoever beats him out, by the way, bring in LeCharles Bentley please), and Carlisle. None of our OT’s are upper eschelon players so JR won’t know where the pressure is coming from because he’ll have to consistely focus on both edges. All we need is one stud at either one of the OT positions and we won’t have to compromise our scheme too much by keeping in extra blockers. Adding McFadden will definetly help by keeping the D honest with draws, screens, motion to the slot, etc. but in those 2 minute situations or if we get behind and are forced into obvious passing situations, we’re going to be hurting, but not as bad as last year since we added some speed at WR and JR has the arm to get the ball down the field.

    I feel with the new talent, another year in the system, and our weak schedule, and how close we were to winning 5 more games last year we should win 10-12 games this year on paper, but we’re not going to go far in the playoffs (if things work out) having to compensate for two sub-par OT’s that will constrict our scheme in the pass game. Obviously the goal is the super bowl, so needs at OT and Dline still need to be addressed over the next couple of years before we’re legit contenders.

  49. La Milicia Negra Says:

    1st Half… 1-1

  50. SlvrBlkLoco Says:

    How bout the Lorenzen, QB just cut from Giants. Sign him for spring training for a look. He’s weighs 280, is as big as Russell and throws almost as far. ESPN Sportcenter said 70yards from knees? if I’m remembering correctly.

    Is he worth a look at least?

    Spain bounced Italy in shoot-outs. Spain vs. Russia Thurs 11:30am pacific

  51. 909raiderlifer Says:

    LMN…. This is all your fault after all, in getting me to pay any attention to soccer. lol and thanks

    Very good competition, even though I don’t know all the rules and strategy.

  52. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LMN, I’m following our election pretty closely and didn’t hear about McCain’s ignorance on Putin. Can you give me some context? I am a US Marine (ret.) who is tired of our chicken-hawk Commander in Chief. Bush probably spells Putin with two o’s.

  53. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMN post 46; as bush has prooved you only have 2 be a COMPLETE IDIOT 2 be president.our country is SOOOOOOOO screwed up.I dont want 2 turn this into a political blog,I have WAYYYYYYYYY 2 many opinions on this subject.Suffice it 2 say,I hope a republican NEVER gets elected again.As Reagan said let them eat ketsup 4 schoolkids veggies.Now theres compassion and stupidity all rolled up in 1 nice neat package.I best shutup,because I get on a roll very easy when it comes 2 politics

  54. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I wonder who Al Davis is voting for…

  55. KoolKell Says:

    We still need a VETERAN backup QB

  56. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    This is what I want for Xmas…
    http://www.profootballhof.com/store/item.jsp?item_id=1927

  57. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dilfer is still out there I think

  58. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo S J…

    it was about a year ago, but I’ve just heard about it now, it was when the republican race started

    youtube.com/watch?v=E5ENwej0fpc

    add www and stuff…

  59. 4evaRaider Says:

    WOW BSJ,I wonder if they have on-line version,we could all play against eachother.I think you found a way 2 get us all 2 training camp.This is great,good find

  60. La Milicia Negra Says:

    909…

    yeah, if the US soccer department just hired me, then I would get you all to watch it =)

    but it is funny though, of this globe’s 6 billion inhabitants only 300m doesn’t follow soccer, and thats the americans!!! all over the world is soccer the main sport…

  61. RaiderDogg Says:

    BSJ -

    That Monopoly game is tight but imagining coming out on XMas morning and seeing this:

    http://www.pooltablesusa.com/oakland-raiders-pool-table/?kw=oakland_raiders_pool_table&cpao=117&OVRAW=oakland%20raiders%20pool%20table&OVKEY=oakland%20raider%20pool%20table&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=28750859511&OVKWID=214058998011

    I would crap my pants jumping for joy!

    One Nation

  62. La Milicia Negra Says:

    hmmmmf…

    New and improved, now without video feed!

  63. no more infield Says:

    Shockey can block and has great hands. i think the cancer thing is being hyped up… Who would you rather have, Madsen or Shockey??? Jordan and Madsen for Shockey…

  64. RaiderDogg Says:

    LMN -

    Did you know that the Mayans used to play a game that was very similar to soccer? At the end of the game the Captain of the winning team had the HONOR of being be-headed, while the Captain of the losing team had the SHAME of cutting the man’s head off.

    One Nation

  65. vegas raider Says:

    Al Davis probably things Nixon is still in the election

  66. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”Giants RG Chris Snee’s new six-year contract has a base value of $41.25 million and includes $17 million in guarantees. Snee gets a whopping $13.5 million signing bonus and can earn another $2 million in escalators. $23 million is available in the first three seasons and his annual base average is $6.875 million. Snee, 26, can now brag to his wife that he makes considerably more money than her poor father does. Jun. 25 – 3:28 p.m. ET”—
    ______________________________________________________

    Gallery is almost as good, but at least his LT salary is way below these figures =)

  67. La Milicia Negra Says:

    -Dogg…

    yeah I knew that, so did the vikings… but very similar is a bit off… yeah they kicked to a ball, and the had some kinda gaol in each end, and then stops the similarities…

    hey did you know american football is the exact same thing as soccer? both sports has goal in each end and both kicks to the ball….

    you get my point?

  68. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    Ever heard Shockey speak? He doesn’t respect anybody, and he has the same surly attitude even when in a good mood. Shockey’s just another spoiled, slightly over-rated ego case — with a limited vocabulary filled with “me’s” and “I’s.” Why do we want to keep adding “me-first” guys to this roster? Egos are fine, but team-players are what this team needs — no matter how good a guy is.

  69. Chris in NY Says:

    Lorenzen is worth a look. He’s got a big arm and might actually be better than Tui, Walter and Keller. He’s not great but he should definitely land another job somewhere in the league.
    Leftwich was awesome in college and showed some nice flashes as a pro. If he wasn’t so injury prone he’d be starting somewhere in 2008. I’d rather have him than Culpepper or any other free agent QB, if the price is right.
    Leftwich is as good or better than half the starting QBs in the league, IMO.

  70. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    4evaRaider
    FYI
    In the United States, the Food and Drug Administration has prohibited the use of the word “ketchup” on product labels unless the product conforms to a set of strict guidelines. Despite the more general origins of the word, all products marketed as ketchup in the United States must be thickened only with tomato solids, and the viscosity of the sauce must be within a very narrow range. The nutrient content of the sauce is also tightly regulated.
    Ketchup has been shown to provide significant health benefits but many argue that these benefits are counterbalanced by the food’s salt and sugar content. Ketchup has been found to be a beneficial source of lycopene, an antioxidant which may help prevent some forms of cancer. This is particularly true of the organic brands of ketchup. In fact, organic brands were found to contain three times as much lycopene as non-organic brands

  71. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Thx LMN….go OBAMA!

  72. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Source: Wikipedia

  73. RaiderDogg Says:

    LMN -

    I get your point, the similarities are general, the ball was round, but made of stone. I was just re-iterating your point that soccer is the worlds most popular sport and similar versions of the sport have been played for hundreds of years.

    Football is still so much more entertaining than soccer in my opinion. Personally in order to enjoy soccer I must have a vested interest, unlike basketball or football where I can still enjoy watching watching the game even if my favorite teams aren’t involved.

    One Nation

  74. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Chris in NY,
    Lorenzen’s problem is he is as mobile as a statue. JaMarcus is mobile as is Tui(one of his only skills)

  75. DoeDoe Says:

    What It Doo Nation

  76. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Chris in NY…

    stop saying those stupid things… Lorenzen moves faster than continental divide, not that its good…

    he is fat, lazy, fat and slow… and never showed anything in NY…

    the only reason to get him is, that he has Danish name… My grandgrand father on my mothers side’s surname was Lorenzen… thats a pretty poor reason… well we got Madsen =) thats Danish too =)

  77. Eyepatch Says:

    Gruden asked for theose slow wide outs he had and also was a big Gannon fan.

  78. La Milicia Negra Says:

    as I said the other day… Lorenzen is as fast as Mount Rushmore… and compared to Walter, whom after the ‘06 season was named a statue, is a regular Flash Gordon compared to Lorenzen…

  79. 4evaRaider Says:

    Fersure HayesDaze#37,especially after Z.Millers good year last year.Plus him and JMAC seem 2 have some kind of JAA going on.Hard work and strong core of players who respect AND like eachother is what gave the RAIDERS of old there swagger.We allready have core imho,it only takes 1 donkey-partyboy 2 throw monkey-wrench in whole operation tho

  80. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    LMN,
    Stop it! I spit out my Coke!!! LOL

  81. vegas raider Says:

    A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for colonel sanders

  82. La Milicia Negra Says:

    -Dogg…

    yup =)true, I understand why…

    but remember soccer as it is played in the US is mostly boring to us as well , it has nothing to do with real soccer, and you need to follow it for at least 2 years to understand the formations, tactics and the reasons behind the changes before and during a game… and by follow it. I mean the Champions league, the Uefa cup, and the national leagues plus the national teams games…

  83. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    All you political pukes need to go somewhere else with your slogans. I don’t give a rat’s arse what canidate you support; I only care that you root for the Raiders.

  84. Eyepatch Says:

    Al’s Bedpan sounds like a neocon.

  85. RaiderDogg Says:

    LMN -

    I played soccer growing up so I do understand the formations, strategy etc. Also I NEVER watch American soccer, usually my exposure has been the World Cup.

  86. vegas raider Says:

    Sorry Bedpan. What about all the soccer talk??

  87. La Milicia Negra Says:

    vegas…

    and voting for McCain would be? like the tzar hoping the bolsjeviks would get the power?

  88. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    I was up one nite real late and saw a highlight show of euro soccer on fox sports. Can’t say I understood everything, but I do know the players are real atheletes.

  89. 909raiderlifer Says:

    RaiderDogg….

    Would have to be extra nice, for the remainder of this year and not the least bit naughty, for Santa to hook me up w/ one of those pool tables.

    Plus I’am not sure the ol’ lady, would go for having to park her car outside the garage again, just made room for it not to long ago.

    Damn nice looking table though, that would get me back into the game, I hung my sticks up a few years back..

  90. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    Neocon? No. I support the constitution of the USA, and I vote based upon what I know, not what I’m told.

  91. Eyepatch Says:

    Soccer is a good place for short white guys.

  92. Eyepatch Says:

    Then don’t tell someone to take there slogans to another place lol.

  93. Raiders fan Says:

    Is Sam Keller Helens brother?

  94. Eyepatch Says:

    Cable must really like his lineman if they are signing 4th string quarterbacks.

  95. La Milicia Negra Says:

    -Dogg…

    the World cup has very little to do with real soccer too…

    its the clubs, who let you understand how the game works. The National teams play after a philosophy… the clubs are in for the money! and they have multiple nationalities on their roster…

    World Cup is dead last in priority! Euro Cup, is way harder than the World cup, I know it doesn’t seem logic, but is true…

    remember if the US team tried to qualify to the Euro Cup, even small nations with 1 million inhabitants would smash your… By that I mean, the quality of the world cup is much lower than the Euro cup…

    but the real deal are Champions league and Uefa Cup.. thats where it happens… national teams are a holiday compared to the clubs =)

  96. 4evaRaider Says:

    EX back in the 80s government was cutting budget any where they could.For the very reasons you so correctly stated,Reagan said let schoolchildren who recieved a free lunch on the states dime 2 let them eat ketsup,instead of say a side of green beans or any other veggie,i hope I cleared up my point,but thankyou I didnt know so much regulation went into ketsup

  97. DoeDoe Says:

    bspn article on Javon Walker 2day.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=williamson_bill&id=3455402

  98. Eyepatch Says:

    Ketchup is meaningless if you just eat tomatoes.

  99. Dakota Says:

    You guys crack me up!

  100. vegas raider Says:

    Google Sam Keller’s girlfriend. He may not make the team, but his is girl can be a Raiderette. Tried to post the link but think the moderator got me.

  101. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
    vegas…

    and voting for McCain would be? like the tzar hoping the bolsjeviks would get the power?
    _____________________________________________________

    Say what? You need some sleep my man!

  102. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    I think we all get that 75% of the posters here hate republicans and think that Obama is the next best thing since sliced bread.

    20% think that they have to do everything to keep a liberal out of the white house.

    5% of us laugh at the energy you waste trying to convince the other side that your position is better.

  103. vegas raider Says:

    I’m not trying to convice anyone, but dude is a phony

  104. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    Did you write some of these too?

    http://strangeplaces.net/weirdthings/analogies.html

  105. RaiderDogg Says:

    LMN -

    I guess I will have to watch a few games to be able to form an educated opinion.

    909raiderlifer -

    You can also get Raider themed balls with a rival team as the other balls. For me solids would be the Raiders and stripes would be the Chiefs. I would probably puke if I saw Bronco balls on my pool table!

    As far as being able to actually own the table and get the spousal clearance like you mentioned, it would take a little work. I can be very persuasive.

    One Nation

  106. vegas raider Says:

    Post #97 : That article doesn’t make too comfortable

  107. KoolKell Says:

    If you want more of the same, vote McCain. Clever no?

  108. 4evaRaider Says:

    eyepatch post 94; Good Point

  109. Eyepatch Says:

    Most of America hates republicans right now except the republicans themselves. But it won’t matter because both McCain and Obama are neocons and are pressing forward with NAFTA, North American Union, Amero currency, and a centralized, one world government.

  110. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    “uhhh bwadr taxes, taxes are bad, uhhh”.. you guys crack me up… I pay 42% and I do so gladly, My dad got a first class service at the hospital, and it doesn’t cost us anything, I got a first class education as 99% of the rest of the nation….

    I’m proud to pay taxes, as proud as I’ve been serving this nation under arms…

  111. Dakota Says:

    Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?

  112. vegas raider Says:

    We are screwed either way KK.

  113. vegas raider Says:

    Have you ever been to a Turkish prison Dakota?

  114. Eyepatch Says:

    Can you carry a hand gun in Denmark?

  115. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota

    and voting for McCain would be? like the tzar hoping the bolsjeviks would get the power?

    by that I mean… vote for McCain is like suicide…

  116. 909raiderlifer Says:

    DoeDoe…#97

    Thanks for that link.

    I’am sure that the Raiders have offered any and all help to Walker, just hope he is open to getting it.

  117. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    Just seeing all this anti-McCain diatribe makes me want to vote for him!

  118. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Eyepatch…

    nope, well you can, its physically plausible, but its not legal =)

  119. KoolKell Says:

    LMN,

    I heard on the Radio the other day Denmark is happiest nation on earth, WITH 50% taxes. We here pay lower taxes and but nothing for them. The schools and roads are crumbling.

    I remember coming home from Switzerland a few years ago, leaving the Airport in SF and thinking what a dump this is.

  120. Dakota Says:

    Damn! Why can’t I post that comment? WTF?

  121. Dakota Says:

    Dakota Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    June 25th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
    Dakota Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    June 25th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
    Dakota…

    “uhhh bwadr taxes, taxes are bad, uhhh”.. you guys crack me up… I pay 42% and I do so gladly, My dad got a first class service at the hospital, and it doesn’t cost us anything, I got a first class education as 99% of the rest of the nation….

    I’m proud to pay taxes, as proud as I’ve been serving this nation under arms…
    _______________________________________________________
    Good for you LMN, but the US is not a sociali$t nation like yours…at least not until B.O. is sworn in, lol.

  122. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Eyepatch…

    “Do you want tomatos, with you fries?” Just doesn’t have the same ring to it, huh.

  123. Dakota Says:

    finally, jeeez! I guess you can’t say sociali$t or 0bama!

  124. Eyepatch Says:

    McCain is Bush’s mini me. But I don’t like Obama or the liberal either. Ron Paul is the only one I would consider.

  125. KoolKell Says:

    Walker is either gay, alcoholic, cocaine abuser, he’s hiding from his friends.

    At any rate a risky imprudent investment.

  126. Eyepatch Says:

    I dunno, fresh cut tomatoes with salt and some potatoe fries sounds good to me.

  127. 909raiderlifer Says:

    RaiderDogg….

    I guess, I had best get that room addition built then, if I want that pool table…lol

  128. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota,

    You can’t say I*rael leave W@st B&nk either. But you can say Blacks are uncivilized, go figure.

  129. Eyepatch Says:

    We don’t really know what Davis is risking until we see the contract details.

  130. RaiderDogg Says:

    Eyepatch Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
    “Most of America hates republicans right now except the republicans themselves. But it won’t matter because both McCain and Obama are neocons and are pressing forward with NAFTA, North American Union, Amero currency, and a centralized, one world government.”

    Eyepatch -

    You know too much. The Illuminati has taken notice. Be prepared to have a microchip installed in your right frontal lobe.

  131. Dakota Says:

    http://www.yankeepotroast.org/img/ketchupgirl-thumb.jpg

  132. RaiderDogg Says:

    909raiderlifer Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
    “RaiderDogg….

    I guess, I had best get that room addition built then, if I want that pool table…lol”

    Either that or buy one of those extra large Tuff-Sheds and turn that into your Raider Room/Pool Room.

  133. Dakota Says:

    KK,

    Maybe Imus is the moderator here?

  134. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    Try home fries with green beans and garlic, then top with fresh cut tomatoes.

  135. vegas raider Says:

    Javon sure knows how to make a great impression on his new fan base

  136. Eyepatch Says:

    Two slices white bread, mayo, tomatoes, salt and pepper.

  137. La Milicia Negra Says:

    KoolKell…

    well Switzerland has way better infrastructure than the rest of Europe, its all payed with naz1-gold LOL, we have to pay it the regular way =)

    you here in DK the average tax is about 48, the top tax is about 60%….

    as I said I’m proud of it, there are some major points I never will get about the US…

    - they all moan about how bad is, but wont pay for the party!?

    - and most conservative/republicans are against government ruling over them, but they are the ones who

    -gets fåck banned
    -gets parental advisory on the cd’s
    -who was shocked about justin and janet
    -who tries to get Intelligent Designs into the schools

    and so on…I love the US, but maaan its a 50/50 country, its always Me against the world attitude…

  138. the Blob Says:

    LMN, It’s easy for someone from a country that has never even sniffed a World Cup title to pooh-pooh it. I would imagine that Brazilians and Italians feel a little differently. Actually, I don’t have to imagaine — I’m married to a Brazilian and was in Brazil when they won their last one in 2002. It’s a HUGE deal. But for a Dane to say the World Cup is no big deal is kind of like a Charger fan saying that winning the Super Bowl is no big deal. Win one, and then you can talk.

  139. Dakota Says:

    eyepatch,

    http://acreage.unl.edu/Newsletter/Image/BER.JPG

  140. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Eyepatch…

    Touche’ Next time I’am at, In n Out. I will ask for that. Sounds pretty good.

  141. RaiderDogg Says:

    After reading that article on ESPN.com about Javon today I now realize that there are some bigger issues at work here. Serious emotional issues. I don’t know about any of you guys, but I have never had anyone die in my arms, let alone a good friend.

    I just hope he can find peace in his life, because if he doesn’t it WILL manifest itself on the field either by poor play or by just plain losing his desire to succeed.

    Javon Walker needs to see a grief counselor and stop running from his pain. Learn from it, use it as strength and move on. He is probably still stuck on January 1, 2007.

    One Nation

  142. Eyepatch Says:

    Looks like a rotten tomatoe but I bet someone will see Mary.

  143. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    LOL a socializt state =) good one… well you are very fond of having your socalizt ally help you sort things out in afghan1stan =)

  144. RaiderDogg Says:

    909raiderlifer -

    while you’re at an In n Out make sure you get a burger “Animal Style”! They’ll know what you’re talking about…

  145. RaiderDogg Says:

    The Blob -

    Excellent point

  146. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Dakota….#131.

    HAHAHA.. I guess practice, really does make perfect eh?

  147. KoolKell Says:

    Dogg,

    He goes to Vegas to party the weekend of his teamates funeral?????? He goes to Vegas on off days with Denver??? I think there’s some sort of addiction at work here

  148. Eyepatch Says:

    Sure does sound to me like Walker went for a ride, and a bump or two, and got rolled. He better be careful banking on blow leaving his system in 24 hours, they can still catch him with a timely test.

  149. KoolKell Says:

    Again spraying Champagne… when Mrs Williams asked him to attend an event last weekend….. somthing very wong here.

  150. vegas raider Says:

    The best thing Sam Keller can provide is his girl. Seriously, her name is Casey Connelly, go check that out

  151. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
    Dakota…

    LOL a socializt state =) good one… well you are very fond of having your socalizt ally help you sort things out in afghan1stan =)
    _______________________________________________________

    Oh pleeeease! In 2007 of the 33,000 NATO troops in Afghanist@n, 640 of them were from Denmark. Thanks for ALL THE HELP! I guess we needed laundry services from someone, and Denmark stepped up! LOL.

  152. RaiderDogg Says:

    KK -

    Great point, you may be right about addiction problems. Serious grief can only compound those kind of problems. Sometimes serious grief can even cause addiction. Anything to hide from feelings that are too hard to face.

    Then again Javon could just be a compulsive gambler/champagne sprayer that does blow like his name is Tony Montana. But I have a feeling it runs deeper than that.

    Either way he needs to get his S together soon. I just hope football is his only sanctuary and he pours everything he has into it. I won’t hold my breath though.

    One Nation

  153. KoolKell Says:

    Cocaine + Sex, um um good. (past exp)

  154. Eyepatch Says:

    Any sand dunes in Denmark?

  155. RaiderDogg Says:

    “I guess we needed laundry services from someone, and Denmark stepped up! LOL.”

    Ouch

  156. KoolKell Says:

    If football were his sanctuary, he would have shown up at the OTA’s in shape. I didn’t like what I read in that ESPN article.

  157. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # the Blob Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    LMN, It’s easy for someone from a country that has never even sniffed a World Cup title to pooh-pooh it. I would imagine that Brazilians and Italians feel a little differently. Actually, I don’t have to imagaine — I’m married to a Brazilian and was in Brazil when they won their last one in 2002. It’s a HUGE deal. But for a Dane to say the World Cup is no big deal is kind of like a Charger fan saying that winning the Super Bowl is no big deal. Win one, and then you can talk.
    _______________________________________________________

    you are absolutely right if you only think about merits (merits and knowledge isn’t comparable) … but the italian coach Lippi who won the World Cup with italy and who will become caoch again after Donadoni…said it as well, so did Klinsmann…. they won everything…

    another argument that the european leagues are harder than the world cup…The entire brazil team all plays for European teams…

    If you took Man U (winners of Chp League) and played them against brazil, Brazil would lose…

    In spain you first root for your local team, then for the biggest team in spain (usually barca/Real) and lastly their national team… uhh and btw, its just as huge in spain as in Brazil… so it paint the picture pretty well…

  158. 408RAIDER Says:

    4eva

    regarding post 187 on yesterdays thread (suspect-arrested-in-javon-walker-case) Its nothing brethrean thats what we do in the NATION no crying no b!tching just staying united beside our beloved RAIDERS….. I still think Linds just needs a hug 8)

  159. Eyepatch Says:

    Europe needs to form some footbal teams and quit leeching onto soccer.

  160. 909raiderlifer Says:

    RaiderDogg….

    Have an In n Out, less than a mile from the house.

    Try a 4 x 4, animal style, w/ animal style fries & a extra large chocolate shake…burp!

    My entire house is a Raider room. Not big enough for a regulation pool table, and the bar you must have to go with it..lol

  161. RaiderDogg Says:

    KK -

    Me neither. He needs to deal with his issues or they will haunt him forever.

    I lost my best friend to suicide when I was a young man and I know how hard that was. I can’t imagine having a best friend dying in my arms. Everyone deals with grief differently, but if you don’t deal with it at all it will eat you up inside.

    On a more positive note I like the stats on this Sam Keller kid. He sounds much better suited for the offense than Walter is. Maybe this is signaling the departure of Andrew Walter.

  162. RaiderDogg Says:

    909 -

    what does the 4 x 4 refer to? I guess you know the “secret” menu better than myself. When I lived in LA I was more of a Fatburger guy than In N Out.

    Regarding the Raider room, I like the way you think bro. :)

  163. Brian Says:

    Does anyone ever write about what is written in the original article/blog or just a bunch of idiots?

  164. 909raiderlifer Says:

    RaiderDogg..

    4 x 4= 4 patties + 4 slices of cheese.. yummy, can you say heart attack.

    If I put most of the living room furniture in the garage, then I would have room for that pool table and bar, but that puts me back at square one, damn..lol

  165. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Animal Style
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/raystudio/2086350468/

  166. Eyepatch Says:

    The Life of Brian. All hail to Bwian!

  167. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    Oh pleeeease! In 2007 of the 33,000 NATO troops in Afghanist@n, 640 of them were from Denmark. Thanks for ALL THE HELP! I guess we needed laundry services from someone, and Denmark stepped up! LOL.
    _______________________________________________________

    well yeah!! have in mind we are only about 5.5m here! and most people here was against it, then its a lot, go do the percentage…

    640 / 5,500,000*100 = 0.011%
    33,000 / 300,000,000 = 0.011&

    Funny isn’t it =)

    what you need to have in mind, is how many nations do you have as allies ?? not that many, this is more a game of numbers of nations, than a game of soldiers!

    Lastly, most of those who were sent out there is in our elite forces, no Laundry guys there… most are used as scouts or recognizance groups… that is not a desk job I might add

  168. RaiderDogg Says:

    I was totally wrong about what I thought “Animal Style” meant. I thought it meant that instead of a bun the burger was wrapped in lettuce.

    Man I was misinformed.

    I just hope the Raiders Defense inplements an “Animal Style” of some kind.

    One Nation

  169. vegas raider Says:

    Sam Keller has very little chance of making the team. He never was able to finish a season in college because of injury problems, they ran him out of Arizona State, and if he wasn’t from Danville they problem wouldn’t have brought him in. Al loves the local kids

  170. La Milicia Negra Says:

    EyePatch

    does this count =), we have dunes, but not like desert dunes =)

    nordseepartner.dk/media/nymindegab19.jpg

  171. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Here’s a sample of the secret “In and Out’s” menu.
    http://www.badmouth.net/in-n-outs-secret-menu/

  172. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Brian….#163

    In a word, yes. But this place can and does go in many directions, like how I’am going make room for that $4,000.00 Raider pool table and the bar that must go with it, at extra cost. And the food at In n Out.

    Do you have any thing to offer, on the subject of the above article???????

  173. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    Your quaint little nation of 5.5 million souls can afford to have socialized medicine and education and thumb its nose at the world, and just worry about soccer and drugs…thanks to the US. If it wasn’t for us, you would be speaking German, or maybe Russian right now.

    Thanks for the laundry services in Afghanist@n though!

  174. RaiderDogg Says:

    Thanks exla

    Protein Burger sounds weak. I’ll take a 3 x 3 Animal Style with Extra Toast.

    One Nation

  175. La Milicia Negra Says:

    eyepatch…

    regarding football in europe, its on its way, as the americans in soccer we are way behind in the Football department…

    this is the team that I supports here in DK…

    monarchs.dk/default.asp?mode=cmsview&page=38

    ^notice the jersey colors =)

    but the worst college team in the US would win with their eyes closed if they played the monarchs…

  176. Dakota Says:

    Okay…thanks for the elite special laundry services!

  177. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota -

    You don’t f*ck around do you? Say what’s really on your mind, don’t hold back.

    One Nation

  178. R.A.W. Says:

    though it’s true he didn’t do well with the raiders recently, i have respect for barry simms, maybe not as a player but as a person.

    http://www.barrysims.net/

    nine seasons is a long time.

  179. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    LMN,

    Your quaint little nation of 5.5 million souls can afford to have socialized medicine and education and thumb its nose at the world, and just worry about soccer and drugs…thanks to the US. If it wasn’t for us, you would be speaking German, or maybe Russian right now.
    ______________________________________________________

    again your history is plain wrong… England and the Russians saved our sorry asses…

    its like saying sorgi won the superbowl had he played the last 2 min of the game… we all know Peyton won that one…

    but still thanks for your help, a bit late though….

    you didn’t notice the percentage… you do know that war is a science, right, not only in the trenches but at home… percentage are real important at home…

  180. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I think i’m gonna watch last nights Jon stewart and Colbert…

  181. vegas raider Says:

    LMN: We thank you guys for the allegiance. I think Dakota got a little stirred up with the Obama talk

  182. RaiderDogg Says:

    I think Dakota is just fired up because it’s costing him more than he anticipated to fix his busted sprinkler system.

    One Nation

  183. La Milicia Negra Says:

    vegas true…

    Stewart: “McCain, you know I love you, but Maaan you’re OLD!”

    LOL

    all I can say, I rather have 3 McCains than 2 George Bushs…

    and you can quote me on that =)

  184. 909raiderlifer Says:

    WOW.. Erin Andrews on bspn, reporting on the CWS. She is still smokin hot..

    Go Fresno State Bulldogs!!!!!

  185. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    You have got to be kidding me? Just because Monty and the Russians liberated your country doesn’t mean the US had nothing to do with it…we were a little busy liberating FRANCE! We let the Russians and English worry about the ancillary nations, like Denmark, but that was only possible due to American intervention.

    From all of us in the US…you are welcome…

  186. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Been fun here, again..

    Time to rescue, some ice COLD beer!!

    Take care, all…

  187. Dakota Says:

    I am just tired of godless, elitist, soci@list Europe@ns who think their shiit smells way better than America’s just because we are in a downturn.

    I mean, the nerve of some Europe@n to brag about the 640 troops his nation contributed to Afghanist@n after we lost 500K troops KILLED in WWII cleaning up a Europe@n mess.

    Unreal.

  188. Dakota Says:

    Dogg,

    If I lived in Denmark maybe I would just have to call in the government to fix my proken prinkler…gladly worth 60% of my income!

  189. Ben Franklin Says:

    Dakota,

    You may be right about the US’s contributions in WWII, not to mention WWI as well, but other than that we have offered very little in contributing to rest of the world’s advancement during our nation’s brief existence. Don’t be suprised by the way others look upon us.

    Sincerely,

    Electricity, the telephone, airplanes, the personal computer, and the internet

  190. Dakota Says:

    wtf??? broken sprinkler!!!!!

  191. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota -

    I guess I was wrong about the sprinkler system then. That’s good news anyway.

    On another note I hear that the Beard may be headed to Detroit.

  192. 4evaRaider Says:

    post #158 WORD 408RAIDER

  193. Dakota Says:

    I can’t type when I am pissed!

  194. 4evaRaider Says:

    and oh yeah ;wewease bwian RAIDER ON

  195. Dakota Says:

    Dogg,

    I heard that…Wallace and Chauncey for the Beard???

    Do you like that deal?

  196. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota -

    Not really, mostly because of the age difference. The Beard is much younger. I would rather have Marcus Camby than Rasheed Wallace, although Rasheed plays his heart out when he wants to. The Warriors need a big man desperately.

    Monte Ellis is the future so they will be all right without BD, but if the W’s are going to deal The Beard they need to get a big man in return somehow.

  197. Kirk Says:

    Sorry, Dakota. The Russians won the war in Europe. 75% of all German casualties were inflicted by the Russians.

  198. Eyepatch Says:

    Wewease Bwian!

  199. vegas raider Says:

    Hate that deal. Mr. Bigshot hasn’t hit a big shot in years, and Wallace will pout and drive all the fans crazy. Gotta keep the Beard!!!

  200. KoolKell Says:

    It’s just that America has the highest Murder rate in the World outside of South Africa and Zimbabwe,

    Has more people in prison than ANY nation on earth

    Has the highest Divorce rate on earth.

    And has to import it’s scientists and engineers.

    Infracture is crumbling.

    A very violent place.

  201. Sports Says:

    Keller signing now official. Our beat writer, Steve Corkran, just got it confirmed. Erik Meyer was waived to make room for Keller, which leaves 5 QBs on the roster: Russell, Tuiasosopo, Walter, Keller, Otis.

    Jon Becker
    Online Sports Editor

  202. Eyepatch Says:

    Not quite.

  203. Eyepatch Says:

    Has the practice squad number increased or something?

  204. RaiderDogg Says:

    Thanks Jon. You are on it.

    Keep up the good work.

  205. El Dirty Says:

    Jesus I cant believe I spent that much time reading all that. Blogging should be like drinking When drinkning= No Religion No Politics and no comments about little sisters. (dirty bastards)

  206. Camel Jockey Says:

    Who the heck is Keller?…hopefully this means Marc Wilson Jr will be let go,…Walter sucks.

  207. Dakota Says:

    Sorry Kirk, looks like you need a history lesson:

    Without the lend-lease agreement (look it up) between the US and USSR, and the US lead bombing of Germany destroying its infrastructure and crippling its ability to wage war, and the subsequent invasion of France, most of Europe would be speaking German right now.

    The USSR did kick some @zz, and faught valliantly to save Moscow and Stalingrad, but without out our help with equipment supplies they would only have been able to eject Germany from thier own boarders…maybe.

  208. raider4life Says:

    I think we should go after S-Jimmy Williams. think about, G.Wilson with J.Williams side by side and M.Huff as back up. Nice Right. that is if J.Williams can play like the star that he is suposed too. if he does than we just might be able to trade M.Huff for a O.Tackle or a S.S. linebacker or even a decent WR

  209. Camel Jockey Says:

    KoolKell,…nobody gives a crap about your views on world issues. Youre a moron, period.

  210. Camel Jockey Says:

    Dakota,…I used to think you didnt know anything about the Raiders,..which you proved,..now you are out to prove youre also an idiot on all subjects,…stop making a fool of yourself.

  211. Dakota Says:

    I have lost the ability to spell, so I am out for the day.

    Maybe tomorrow we can debate the use of the atomic bomb on Japan???

  212. Raiders4Life Says:

    Dakota and KoolKell, stop talking politics. This is a football blog, not some whiney political bitch fest. Take it to some high brow political blog. Nobody wants to hear your guys’ exchange of boring ideas and historical references in here. Talk Raiders.

  213. KoolKell Says:

    I was going to talk about the fire bombing and nuclear bombing, Dakota, another time perhaps.

  214. Dakota Says:

    GOOOOOO RAIDERS…..AND THE USA!!!!!

    FUK THE BRONCOS AND EUROPE TOO!

  215. Raiders4Life Says:

    Thank you, Kool Kell. One political geek down, one to go. You ready to check in your whiny world views too, Dakota?

  216. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # 909raiderlifer Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    WOW.. Erin Andrews on bspn, reporting on the CWS. She is still smokin hot..

    Go Fresno State Bulldogs!!!!!
    ________________________________________________________

    Come one she’s only 30. She has many years of smokin’ness ahead of her!

  217. Dakota Says:

    Is that better Raiders4Life?

  218. Raiders4Life Says:

    Now you’re on our page, Dakota. Good man.

  219. Dakota Says:

    It really wasn’t all politics…it was WWII talk too…which is better than soccer talk any day!

  220. 4evaRaider Says:

    maybe the rest of the world was way 2 smart 2 be drug into the biggest political blunder ever perpatrated on the free world.a gutless war started by a fortunate son so he could finish his daddys personal vendetta.all the shattered lives,divorces,fatherless kids,amputees warped minds,promised medical care never delivered and 4 what?A closed door energy policy so bush oil and cheany kbr.They might have sold thier intrest but dont you dare think 4 a minute when these piece of shiot slime balls get out of office they dont have jobs waiting.This has been going on since bush 1 was head of cia in the 1950s.WE may have come 2 europes rescue but that was 1945.They have showed there appreciation 4 63 years.anyone who sided with bush over this LIE can burn in middle-east oil as far as Im concerned 4 all eternity.I personally applaud the Netherlands 4 having enough sence 4 not having the so called bush patriotisim.GO DENMARK

  221. Raiders4Life Says:

    Well, I’m leaving now, goodbye.

    Just wanted to get everyone to stop talking politics, because real men don’t talk politics. Real men just keep filling the buckets. Pay not attention to what the big man is doing. Earn your keep. And have faith in your country and in the good lord. Everything will work out. Avoid any intellectual activities. Do not ever read. Reading is for liberal elitists. Read only the bible, and the scrolling bar on the bottom of the screen on FoxNews.

    Don’t bother responding.

  222. Camel Jockey Says:

    Raider4life,…those two, Koolkell and his girlfriend Dakota,..they are lifeless losers who cant exit the blog that they live in,..they ran out of dumb stuff to post about the Raiders,..so now they make idiots of themselves posting about other stuff they know nothing of.

  223. KoolKell Says:

    Jerry doesn’t care what we talk about, as long as we keep posting. Or else trolls like Camel Jockey would be gone by now.

  224. Raiders4Life Says:

    Dakota, WWII is politics. It’s not Raiders. Raider football only. Enough. Nobody wants to hear about what you read in your gay little books. Books are for homos. Real men only read the bible and the scroll bar on foxnews, nothing else. Understand, queer?

    Don’t bother responding.

  225. Camel Jockey Says:

    F Jesus,..and F foxnews,..and that goes double for CNN.

  226. Camel Jockey Says:

    Koolkell,..only losers like you care what Jerry thinks. You moron.

  227. 4evaRaider Says:

    i will try my best 2 cheack my politics at door.I do feel a LOT better tho GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  228. Raiders4Life Says:

    Well, then, since you put CNN lower than Foxnews, you’re okay in my book, Camel Jockey. But at least you’re not doing the gay thing and quoting history and talking about your ideas, like some of these queers in here. They can take their world views to San Fran Sicko. Real Raider fans and real Americans don’t want to hear it. I’ve never read a book in my life. I don’t have to, because I’m going to heaven.

  229. KoolKell Says:

    Jockey,

    At least I’m man enough to put my moniker behind my statements and stand by them.

    No name trolls are cowards.

  230. Raiders4Life Says:

    Alright, now you’re getting the hang of it, Kool Kell. Get it in there and start some stuff. I like it.

  231. Raiders4Life Says:

    Is Dakota finally finished with his intellectual yammering? I hope so. Watching paint dry was more exciting.

  232. KoolKell Says:

    You two may be too uninformed to speak on world issues. You certainly know nothing about the Raiders

  233. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    Camel Jockey, is that a spot of spittle on your face or……….something else…..

  234. Raiders4Life Says:

    I don’t need to know a thing about world issues other than God intended America to be the best. Everything else is psycho babble. So shut the f’k up.

  235. KoolKell Says:

    No name hit & run queers, yammering about “real fans” what’s that?

  236. Raiders4Life Says:

    After John McCain whipps that Afro feller in November, we’re going to straighten this country out. You queers’ days are numbered.

  237. Raiders4Life Says:

    Real fans are Raider fans that always support the Raiders, who know Al Davis is the greatest owner in all of sports, and the smartest, and who never, ever read books or talk politics. I am a real fan. You’re not. Intellectual faqqot.

  238. KoolKell Says:

    Raiders4LifeLoser,

    That was veeeeeery impressive. lol

  239. El Dirty Says:

    You guys are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO gay lol

  240. Oakglenn Says:

    Enough of this! Stick to football, now! This is my blog, dammit!

  241. Oakglenn Says:

    Kool Kell, you’re a f’n faq! Click my link to see a picture of you, di*khead.

  242. El Dirty Says:

    I heard a rumor that the depth charts were set well not set (projected) and Mario Henderson is set at starting LT, is this true?

  243. Oakglenn Says:

    Raiders, baby!!! Raiders forever!!!! Super Bowl, this year!! Anyone who doesn’t think so is a MaddenRaider loving Niner fan bitch faqqot. Click the link on my name to see what you look like if you don’t believe the Raiders will win it all THIS YEAR!!!

  244. KoolKell Says:

    Why are you guys so obsessed with me?

  245. Oakglenn Says:

    I’m not obsessed with you, Oakglenn. Friends? Click my link. Visit my homepage.

  246. El Dirty Says:

    Its not you kk its politic talks. It does it to everyone and the full moon doesn’t help.

  247. Bob Marley Says:

    LOL. Oakglenn. That picture in your link. I now one thing for certain…that’s not yours.

  248. KoolKell Says:

    We have an old man running the Raiders into the ground. Do we need another old man to run the country further into the ground?

  249. Bob Marley Says:

    Oakglenn does not have hemroids, I’ll give him that much. Believe me, I know.

  250. El Dirty Says:

    Bob

    No man should know those things. :0

  251. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    It’s too bad the country is against mormons. Mitt Romney is the only choice!!!!

    He brought the olympic committee together and now they’re out of the red. He brought the most liberal state out of the red (mass). I call it the welfare state. Although I’m all Irish get Kennedy and his spending pricks out of washington! Guess what… our country is in red and i want someone with a track record to develop us again. Not a preacher or a soldier. No disrespect to soldier. I was one but I am not presidential or can handle cutting through the bs that Mitt Romney has successfully done in the Olympics and Mass. I’m sorry.. someone tell me what BO has done. What are his accomplishments?

    Dakota… wow… we’re against the world here. Although, i don’t know if you like romney.

    CT RAIDER

  252. 4evaRaider Says:

    does anyone really think this keller guy can do anything 4 us.Always injured,rookie,I mean wtf?I didnt like Dilfer early in his career,but hey hes been in the biggest game of all,true all he had 2 do was not loose it.Keller seems like another project 2 me.Sometimes I dont understand AD,but IM sure he knows best,but why a rookie? If JMAC goes down;where to NATION??????

  253. El Dirty Says:

    We eat it! That’s what!

  254. KoolKell Says:

    Barack has inspired the country in the way Ronald Reagan and JFK did, all with little Washington experience.

    If you want Washington experience look at Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfield, they might be available.

  255. K-Rock Says:

    Sapp says…

    How would you describe your experience with the Raiders?

    As dark as a black hole. Stuff went on in that organization that shouldn’t go on in sports. I don’t think there’s one person who knows who or what is making the call. Let’s just say the Oakland experience is unique. The phone rings quite a bit on that sideline. Insubordination is grounds for termination in any company.

  256. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    i’m looking for accomplishments not experience. i don’t know what being inspired means. I’m self motivated. He has had everything spoon fed to him. Watch cnn/fox and the next day BO gives a speech saying exactly what they said he needs to say. It’s hilarious. HC destroyed him in debates. No one was there to give him answers. THat’s why HC was so upset that she always answered questions first. I don’t want a puppet, i want a leader.

  257. KoolKell Says:

    CT,

    That’s your opinion and you are welcome to it. He’s certainly not going to appeal to everyone just the majority, thank god.

  258. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    which point is my opinion?

  259. KoolKell Says:

    CT,

    You don’t know what inspiration means?

  260. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    i don’t know how a speech inspires people. SOunds shallow.

    give me an accomplishment this senator has done.

  261. KoolKell Says:

    Spoke out against the War BEFOREHAND.
    Editor of the Harvard Law Review.
    Worked his way through Law school.
    He beat the Clinton machine, in style. Accumulated millions of small donors.
    Became the 1st Afro/Amer Nominee in history.
    Leads John McCain by double digits.

    But, hey, we both know you’re not going to change your mind, at least not here anyway.

  262. Raiders4Life Says:

    Jim, Obama has accomplished nothing, just like George W. Bush. And he’s going to win, just like him, because his image resonates. That’s all there is to it. Doesn’t matter what the issues are. It matters how good you look on television. It’s a popularity contest. Has been for years. That backed with money. Otherwise, you or I could run. Just get used to the fact that a brotha’s going to be in the white house next January. Try not to commit suicide.

  263. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    GB also won because of his loving brother stealing FLA during his first term.

    I just think its funny all of this band wagon jumping. I’m disappointed the one man who can change things won’t be elected because of his religion. The south destroyed him because of it. I guess that’s why the south is still low paid. Sorry south raiders.. that was just bitterness. :)

  264. Raiders4Life Says:

    Jim, Americans are stupid, stupid people. That’s why we had Bush. That’s why we had Clinton. That’s why we had Reagan. All of these men were more crooked than a barrel of snakes. Yet we voted for them. Why? Cause we liked them. We didn’t need a better reason. Americans are simple and dumb like that. And this time, Obama’s the man. You can pound your fist in the wall all you want to over the fact that nobody will pay attention to his record, and what have you. They don’t care. That’s boring to them. They want gratification, right now. That’s why their fat asses sit in long lines at Jack in the Box, because they want their milk shake, right now. Never mind that they’re pre diabetic and have high blood pressure. Doesn’t matter. They want a milk shake. And they want Obama. 8 years ago, they wanted that cool Bush guy from Texas. That’s your country. And if you’re in denial of that, then you’re just a delusional, high brow, intellectual version of the same brand of idiot they are. God bless America.

  265. 4evaRaider Says:

    snorted cocaine and is running 4 president.Maybe he will be smart enough 2 stop this rediculous war on drugs that has costed billions,incarcerated thousands unjustly,that was started by some lying biotch with the catch phrase JUST SAY NO,while she had every known drug on earth in her medicine cabinet.We need 2 get government out of our private lives.Kind of like the good gov. of the netherlands

  266. KoolKell Says:

    If Black Barack Hussein Obama, can get elected, so could a pretty white guy like “Mitt Romney”. C’mon. People are ready for change. The same is killing us.

  267. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    i just wrote this long answer and did not use profanity or insults and it wasn’t posted!!!!

  268. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    again! it happened again!!!!! WTF

  269. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Jim…

    perhaps you used some no-no words… countries and other things are filtered…. if you write a long post, alway copy before you commit it… then you can still edit it if i gets censored

  270. 4evaRaider Says:

    and besides I dont know why people thinks hes a brother.hes half white half black,which makes him mallato,SO there!!!!!!!!!!

  271. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    it happened again. i didn’t use any curse or insults!

  272. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    and i wrote that point!! he’s only a fraction black.

  273. 4evaRaider Says:

    hey La Millicia,good 2 see youre back!!!!!!!!!

  274. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    change? you are funny. what is he changing? specifically?

    You haven’t listed any accomplishments. I worked myself through college. i grew up poor in a rich town.

  275. KoolKell Says:

    No African American is 100 African. You’ll see quite a few freckled faced “blacks”

  276. KoolKell Says:

    What’s YOUR ACCEPTABLE definition of accomplishment?

  277. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    lmn thanks.. i’m trying to paste short paragraphs. i did use countries. maybe that’s the prob.

  278. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    change? you are funny. what is he changing? specifically?

    Also, i was in the desert when we went to the other war (can’t use country) and my whole unit said, “wtf. Our gps is not working. we’re going the wrong way.”

    Religion is stronger than a partially black man if that’s what you’re referring to.

    You haven’t listed any accomplishments. I worked myself through college. i grew up poor in a

  279. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    lmn the word was the place where we’re fighting most now. hahahhahah thanks. i think my little essay is torn into pcs because i was too tired to write again and then i did a lot of cut/pasting.. ahhahaha

  280. KoolKell Says:

    What’s YOUR ACCEPTABLE definition of accomplishment

  281. 408RAIDER Says:

    KK

    why u ufckn with Camel Jocky @ least he stands his ground and backs up his opnions??? IMO…. oh yeah thats just u…

  282. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    what was obamas promises to the illinois constituents? What goals were set? What were the outcomes? Did he achieve what he promised? None of this has ever been brought up but if i’m interviewing someone for a position these are the questions i ask. Not please make me feel inspired. i get up every morning inspired.

  283. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    kk: i don’t know the answer to my question but i’ve never seen so much blind band wagon jumping in my life. However, if BO took MR as his VP, obviously won’t happen.. they’re on opposite economic policy sides, then i’d gladly vote for BO.

  284. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    kk and a few others; i noticed racism in your comments. is that why you’re voting for BO? Wow….that is sad. I’m Irish and i’ll be damned if i ever voted for Ted Kennedy (unless he bought me a drink)hahahaha

  285. La Milicia Negra Says:

    jim

    just call those countries in the middle east, 1srael, 1ran, 1raq, syr1a, Saud1 Arab1a and so on =)

  286. KoolKell Says:

    Frankly, I don’t know his Illinois State record. But obviously he was good enough to get to the US Senate.

    But that’s beside the point now. The choice is Obama or McCain. Republican policies have run the country into the ditch. People want a Democrat, especially one from outside Washington and offers so much promise.

  287. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    pretty slick with the 1 hahaha

  288. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    i don’t vote names, colors, or parties. Don’t worry what the rest of the country wants. Vote for the best candidate. If you don’t know anything about them then how do you know they’re the best for the position. COnsider the country as your personal business and you need to hire someone who can get goals accomplished. Know who you’re voting for.

  289. KoolKell Says:

    Well if you find someone beside Obama/McCain running for president this year, let me know?

  290. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    by the way, in america we can vote for anyone. not just the democrats or republican nominations. THere are many different parties we can vote. Don’t ever let anyone confine your voting choices. We fought too long and hard to have our voice heard. No one can ever tell me i have to choose between two people.

  291. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    There are about 10 others… have you ever voted before?

  292. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    I can vote for Mitt Romney! I will, I will, I will!!!! You can vote for the green peace dude, you can vote independant, you can write in mickey mouse (he gets thousands of votes each election) if you wish. Dude, you’re in america!

  293. KoolKell Says:

    You can write in Mitt Romney if you want, I don’t get the point, but you can do it. He’s supporting McCain btw. If you think the country in going in the right direction, just say so.

  294. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    i’m sorry.. what exactly has obama said he will change. please give specifics and details.

  295. KoolKell Says:

    No, if you’re interested you can go to his website. So Why is John McCain good for America at this point in history?

  296. KoolKell Says:

    The economy has not prospered under the Republican Trickle Down theory. It functioned much better when Democrat Bill Clinton was in charge.

  297. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    i’m not voting for jm. i told you that. I don’t want a soldier to run our economics. Trickle down was in the 80s. Clinton sold us to china. I’m not rep or dem so i’m a little more open about the over all situation of our country. again, i don’t vote parties. i just asked you why you are on the band wagon and you basically said you’ll vote dem regardless and it’s an anti vote against the way things are. Is that correct? If so, i just warn you that when you’re not on the road you want to be taking the next left turn (haha get it) doesn’t mean your going closer to the road you want.

    Also, our economy does not run in 4 year increments. It over laps into different presidency. In other words, whats done in 90 may not have effect until 93 or so.
    by the way, trickle down or voo doo economics (Mr. Stein’s word) is a supplied side. Most companies are anti-supply as they want cash flow.

  298. JD Says:

    congrats to all in and around the raiders org.. Sam is a hidden gem. If he has recievers that have that passion and quick hands he is the man. He throws a good fast ball.If you look at any game he’s been in ,you will see a few mistakes on his part ,but alot on the recieving end.

  299. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    see you all. i’m going to get a nice juicy steak, mashed potatoes and a heineken and wake up 10lbs heavier!

  300. KoolKell Says:

    The economy responds to policy. Responds well to Democratic economic and tax policy, and responds poorly to Republican policy according to anecdotal evidence.

    Trickle down was STARTED in the 80’s under Reagan, and has been Republican economic policy ever since. Much to the detriment of working taxpayers. Put our Country up to it’s arse in debt to the Chinese, and atrophied our infrastructure.

    Corporations get richer & richer, headquater themselves in overseas tax havens, then send troops overseas to protect their assets and play with our treasury as if it were their own piggybank.

    The next president WILL BE Obama or McCain, period. Who would you prefer?

  301. Raiders4Life Says:

    Jim (ct raider) Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    by the way, in america we can vote for anyone. not just the democrats or republican nominations.

    …..

    Oh, geez..you’re one of those, huh? Sure. Go Ron Paul. Do yourself a favor and don’t blow too much on his victory party.

  302. Raiders4Life Says:

    Just like an Al Davis worshipper to believe in a third party candidate. The delusions of grandeur are all too similar.

  303. 408RAIDER Says:

    all I have to say is ufck the donkeys!! ufck the chefs.. Ufck the chockers… in that order oh yeah and ufck the police while im @ it……

  304. Dakota Says:

    Don’t blame all this political shiit on me…

  305. Dakota Says:

    408,

    And fuk Europe too!

  306. Raiders4Life Says:

    Fresno State won the college WS. Take that, Georgia rednecks. Cali in this mutha f’a.

  307. Raiders4Life Says:

    Kool Kell, John McCain is a tool for the oil and military industries. Frankly, those VC’s should have killed him. His life would be worth more in that instance than what it is today. He’s an empty suit. Dude had balls when he ran against Bush in the Rep primaries in ‘00. Bush played on good ole Southern racism to take him down. Had his callers tell people McCain fathere’d a little black baby. Sold hook line and sinker. Only to those dumb racist rednecks. McCain should have gone independent then and there. He didn’t. He decided to suck Republican co*k and he’s been on it since. The most he gets out of it is this very nomination. Obama’s going to slaughter him in November. Why? Obama’s cooler. And that’s all Americans care about at the end of the day. Don’t ever forget it.

  308. Raiders4Life Says:

    Obama’s going to torture McCain this fall, Charlie style…

  309. dick v Says:

    Keller is a disciple of the Bill Callahan west coast offense. I am excited.

  310. Raiders4Life Says:

    Kool aid drinkers…is there any player Al Davis has ever signed where you guys didn’t try to sell him on us as being a possible great Raiders reclamation project that will be part of a unit that will propel us to multiple Super Bowl victories? Don’t you just ever look at a guy and say, “why’d we sign this bum?”, like normal sports fans with actual brains? Just asking.

  311. dick v Says:

    Raiders 4 life that comment about the vc killing McCain is pretty disgraceful for anybody to say. Have some respect for something man. Just because you are online doesn’t mean you have talk like an idiot.

    why the hell has the past 50-60 comments been about politics?!!

  312. Raiders4Life Says:

    Dick V, when did we ever use the Bill Callahan west coast offense? When did any NFL team? If you’re referring to the 2002 offense, that was Gruden’s. It was Gruden’s passing offense. That’s all it was. I’m sorry you thought it was anything else.

  313. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
    408,

    And fuk Europe too!

    —————————————————————-
    LMAO… dude u were kinda harsh on LMN eairlier IMHO…. RAIDER ON

  314. dick v Says:

    I was being sarcastic genuis

  315. Raiders4Life Says:

    Dick V, why should anyone respect John McCain? He’s an empty suit, at the control of the puppets who control the republican party, the energy, oil, and military industries. There is no reason to respect such a pathetic human being. Charlie killing him would have just done him a favor, considering what he turned out to be in his elder years, wouldn’t you think?

  316. Raiders4Life Says:

    # dick v Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    I was being sarcastic genuis

    …..

    I hope you were. And about the Bill Callahan thing, too.

  317. dick v Says:

    Callahan used it at Nebraska genuis. I know this is a Raider blog, but we can watch college football too. Keller was the Cornhusker QB who ran the west coast offense for Callahan. Try to keep up. I know everyhting is little too fast for you.

    Based off your vc-mcain comment, I am guessing you are drunk so I won’t think any less of you.

  318. Raiders4Life Says:

    Holy crap, you were serious.

    Listen, and try and understand this:

    Callahan did nothing as head coach of the Raiders other than yell and pretend to be a coach.

    Everything we did in ‘02 was an expansion of Gruden’s passing offense. And who cares what Callahan did in Nebraska, and what connections Hellen Keller might have to it. Do we have any college teams on our schedule this year?

    McCain is an empty suit, living a meaningless live. You know it and I know it. And he’s going to get slaughtered by Barack. You know that, too. You know your country. You know the presidential race is nothing more than a prom vote anymore. Obama’s just cooler. End of story. McCain sold his soul. He’s weak. That’s probably how the VC captured him to begin with,

  319. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dick

    being drunk isnt that bad it numbs my reality……..

  320. Raiders4Life Says:

    McCain supporters are drunk on hopeless optimism.

  321. dick v Says:

    I wasn’t being sarcastic about the vc-mccain post. You really need to have more respect than that. Regardless of who you are voting for.

  322. Raiders4Life Says:

    McCain supporters are praying, praying that white people will come out in droves to vote against the black candidate. It’s their only prayer at this point. They’ve already tried to nail Obama on every single issue from national security to religion. Obama’s ahead by 15 points in latest poll. Fear of a black planet is all they have left.

  323. Raiders4Life Says:

    Dick V, request denied. No respect for empty suits that shill for the Republican party. I actually have more respect for W. Bush than I do McCain, and Bush is retarded. So that tells you where McCain stands with me. No spine. No charisma. Just an awful candidate. You republicans are screwed with him, Dick V, in the worst way. You’d better just pray that racism is still alive in America, as much as it’s always been. It’s McCain’s only hope at this point.

  324. dick v Says:

    Sam Keller played in the west coast offense for Bill Callahan the last couple of years at Nebraska. He will not matter come the regular season because he will be cut, but the fact is that he knows the west coast offense. He is a bill callahan disciple for better or worse. Based off of the fact that he has barely made a roster and did not get drafted, it is probabaly for worse.

    Just come back tommorrow when you sober up. It will be easier to follow then.

  325. Raiders4Life Says:

    Dick, nobody cares what Hellen Keller did at Nebraska. Kiffin likes to run the ball. And after Kiffin is gone, Lofton will be airing it out in Al Davis’s leather helmet vertical offense. Hellen Keller is useless. Call a spade a spade. I don’t expect a McCain supporter to have the ability to do that, but you have to try.

  326. Raiders4Life Says:

    Dick, drunk or sober, I can handle you.

  327. dick v Says:

    Why are you so sure that I am Republican? how do you know that I am not voting for Obama. Why do you keep insinuating that I am white or that you have to be white to like McCain?

    Your drunken babble is what offends me not the fact that Obama will be the 43 or 44th president just depending on how you count it.

  328. Raiders4Life Says:

    Dick V, what is your point? Why would you even bring up Callahan? You’re trying to make Hellen Keller look good, aren’t you? You’re trying to make this look as if Al Davis plucked another diamond out of the rough, aren’t you? Stop lying. I just called you on it. Don’t pretend now that you were bringing up Callahan as a negative. The optimism freaking oozed from your first post. Al Davis couldn’t pick a diamond shining right in front of his face, anymore, let alone out of the rough. The last diamond he picked out of the rough, as far as we know, was Jon Gruden.

  329. dick v Says:

    actually there are alot of football fans on this site that do keep up with highschool, college and the rest of the pro game.

    The fact is that you didn’t know Callahan was at Nebraska for the past couple of years and you did not pick up on the connection between Keller and Callahan.

    you will get it tommorrow when you sober up.

  330. Raiders4Life Says:

    Dick V, I never said you were white. But thanks for telling me. It’s not that I couldn’t tell. Only a white person would stick up for McCain in the nostalgic, pouting way you did. Black people, or any minority, for that matter, don’t have the time for a worthless human being like McCain. Only clueless white people do. Thanks for revealing yourself as one of them.

  331. 408RAIDER Says:

    once again ufck the donkeys, ufck the chefs, and ufck the chokers…. yalls trippin with all this political isht…. when the real ? is why is jorden still on the squad and when the ufck is Nnamdi gonna get paid sheeze come on AL open up that check book and pay our guy!!!!!!! UFCK

  332. dick v Says:

    My point is that you are idiot and everyone that will read your blogs posts will recognize that.

  333. Raiders4Life Says:

    Dick V, Bill Callahan is irrelevant to any Raider related conversation. He was Gruden’s line coach. That’s all he ever was, even after Gruden left. I don’t care what his title was. Tressman and Gannon ran the team after Gruden left. Callahan walked around and yelled.

    Nebraska is irrelevant. There is no reason to bring up Hellen Keller’s connection to Callahan and Nebraska unless you’re making some lame attempt to make it look as if Al Davis made a good call by bringing him in. That’s what you were doing, wasn’t it? Of course it was. You wanted to convince us Hellen Keller was going to be a Rich Gannon sitting on the bench, for when Fat Albert inevitably gets broken in half this year. And you were wrong. Don’t try and back peddle now.

  334. dick v Says:

    Raider 4 life go get some baby wipes

  335. Raiders4Life Says:

    Dick V, think I give a s’t about any of the losers reading this blog? Bring them all on. Anyone who wants to defend John McCain or Hellen Keller is nothing more than a punching bag for me.

  336. dick v Says:

    I am convinced you are a 49er or a charger fan now. You don’t like jamarcus, Al, or Lane kiffen, and you love Gruden.

    Damn troll

  337. Raiders4Life Says:

    Dick V, you finally done with your feeble attempt to make John McCain look even somewhat respectable? If so, thank you.

  338. 408RAIDER Says:

    4life #333

    Thats the bizness!!!!!

    Calladork was a homo not that theres anythig wrong with that…

  339. Raiders4Life Says:

    Oh, I was waiting for the “whaaa whaaa, you’re a niner fan” white towel to come in. You’re finished in here. All you’re doing now is waiting for your nimrod calvary to get in here and get your back, but they won’t. It’s a slow night, and it’s just me and you, sweetie. Now bend over.

  340. 408RAIDER Says:

    defend ur self dick…

  341. 408RAIDER Says:

    4life I think that last 1 scared him off…. LMAO

  342. Pullin Chicks Cuz I'm A Pimp and not Oakglenn Biotch! Says:

    MR is a piece of scrotum dust

  343. Pullin Chicks Cuz I'm A Pimp and not Oakglenn Biotch! Says:

    or should I say Raiders4Life

    or Camel Jockey?

    Eff you

  344. dick v Says:

    Nobody was defending McCain. you just are an idiot. You are kid who likes to talk tough. 408 just is trying to get some kicks i get it.

  345. Pullin Chicks Cuz I'm A Pimp and not Oakglenn Biotch! Says:

    I own this blog MR and their ain’t nothing you can do about it. You are always so convinced that I am Oakglenn but you are wrong again son. I’m not your lover AI either. You will never figure out who I really am, but I straight up own you son. Chasing shadows, calling me Oakglenn at every turn. You are truly pathetic. Contact site admin and they will tell you that I am not Oakglenn, but I OWN YOU SON!

  346. Camel Jockey Says:

    I think Obama is alot like JFK,…and hopefully he will end up the same way. Go Raiders. :)

  347. Pullin Chicks Cuz I'm A Pimp and not Oakglenn Biotch! Says:

    This is going to sting a little MR but the 49ers suck. Sorry bro.

  348. Pullin Chicks Cuz I'm A Pimp and not Oakglenn Biotch! Says:

    Hey Camel Jockey aka MR

    please don’t pretend to understand a damn thing anyone ever talks about. You are a fukking pile of monkey dung.

  349. 408RAIDER Says:

    dick

    yeah im buzzed and board 4life & ur argument amused me nothing personal…. RAIDER ON dude

  350. Camel Jockey Says:

    I hope after Obama wins he will take a nice joy ride in a convertable like JFK did. I loved what happened to the Kennedys,..bummed nobody got Teddy,…hes not worth it I guess. Go Raiders. :)

  351. dick v Says:

    niners do suck. Don’t these trolls have a blog of their own

  352. dick v Says:

    408 i didn’t take it personal. That damn kid is running his mouth and messing up the blog.

    I was just kind of suprised that ibabuzz allows these kids to talk about McCain and Obama taking head shots in convertables and getting killed by “Charlie”. Wheres the damn moderator. I have seen some dumb ass remarks on here before, but this is a new low for this blog.

  353. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dick

    were good then… thats why i never talk politics, religon, or relationships thats not ment 4 this place.. 2 each his own tho…. 1 thing we all can agree on is July 25th needs to get here soon or were on 4 alot more of this…….

  354. 408RAIDER Says:

    26th im not shure but it seems like 4 ever

  355. dick v Says:

    that was the whole point of intial I am excited about Keller/ callahan disciple post. This is a Raiders blog. I just was here to talk about the Raiders. That kid was getting too lippy. I couldn’t stomach the way raider4life/ camel jockey was posting and purposely trying to get people riled up. That isn’t good for anyone. they probably should just take down this whole blog entry. Way too much politics on this one. And those comments just are way too dumb to be allowed on this site. I would hat to see this blog get delayed like PFT waiting for a moderator to read the posts but those kind of comments would not make it on the baord.

  356. dick v Says:

    Whats the deal with Namdi? Is he going to get a long term deal? The fact that he is not signing the tender is also starting to scare me. What the hell is going on? I though Lane said he expected Namdi in soon?

  357. Rellik30 Says:

    McCain, Hill-Bill and Obama were walking down th road and came across a homeless man… John gave him a $20 bill and offered him a job.. hill-bill was so impressed the next homless person she came across; she gave him a $20 bill–from McCains pocket, pointed to the wellfare office then took $15 to pay for admin fees.. when Obama came across the next homeless person he said “beleive in hope and change, its coming” then walked away. The homeless guy was so bitter that he grabbed a bible and a gun.

  358. Oakglenn Says:

    Wow. Good to see Maddenloser or Debartoloraider or MoRon as he likes to be called has been in here posting as me again. Wow, Looks like this qualifies as another MR official meltdown. Just goes to prove I own that 49er loving racist gay homophobe. Hey MR how does my ass taste???

  359. Obamamustgo Says:

    Why would a presidential candidate choose to avoid placing his hand on his heart during the national anthem?

    Is it a coincidence that this is the presidential candidate endorsed by Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam, the New Black Panther Party and other anti-white and anti-semitic hate groups?

    Is it anything less than a double standard and complete bigotry when Obama stereotypes with the phrase “typical white person”, knowing that if Hillary Clinton, John McCain or any other non-African American recast the same phrase in the form of ‘typical black person’ they would themselves be cast a racist and their resignation demanded?

  360. MR Says:

    Oakglenn, good to see ya. Wasn’t me posting under your name. But you’re set on your ways and I’d hate to let a simple fact interfere with your conspiracy theory.

    And, “gay homophobe”, huh? Think about that one, Oakglenn. We’ll just chalk it up as a classic Oakglenn moment.

    But Oakglenn, before we get to your claim of pulling chicks, let us talk about Walker for a moment.

    Remember him?

    Remember when we signed him?

    Remember how you had him pegged for another great reclamation project, something in the mold of Ted Hendricks or Jim Plunkett?

    Now, he might be. We’re yet to find out.

    But Oakglenn, you’ve already given up on him. You’re bashing the guy now. But interestingly enough, you seem to be leaving out one important co-signor to the Walker deal, one Al Davis.

    Walker didn’t sign himself, Oakglenn. Couldn’t Al Davis see the underachieving party animal in him before inking him? Surely the owner who hasn’t lost a step and still understands the modern day game understood that there was a reason both GB and Denver wouldn’t give Walker a dime, right? Remember, Oakglenn, we didn’t win Walker in a bidding war. We took the guy out of a trash dumpster….and made him a higher paid receiver than Terrel Owens.

    Now, to your pimping ways, Oakglenn. Oh yes, he who “pulls chicks”. How many today, Oak? Remember…even us Raider fans only count them if they weigh less than 200 lbs. No fatties. Maybe for marriage, family, sure. What the heck. All about what’s on the inside. But not for the guy who brags on blogs that he “pulls chicks” in his nice car. We expect a little more out of you.

    Oakglenn, do these “chicks” know how many melt downs you’ve had on this blog?

    Do they know that you spent Easter Sunday contacting administrators, AT THEIR HOMES, begging them to ban the IP’s of people in here that, well, you basically don’t like?

    I mean Oakglenn, what “chick” wouldn’t melt for a guy with such studly ways.

    Oh, one last thing, Oak. Jon Gruden’s here with me, and he has a message for Al Davis. Take it away, Chuckie:

    “Al Davis, my good man, how’s my ass taste???”

  361. MR Says:

    “Obama must go”, according to recent polls, looks like the majority of voters think Obama must stay. Your man’s in trouble. I like McCain, but he’s got Bush III written all over him, and America doesn’t seem to be buying. Obama is not perfect and he’s certainly full of it on some issues, but it’s always about the lesser of two evils in the two party system, and it looks like Obama’s got the edge.

  362. wva raider Says:

    1st when next camp starts we will have our next backup qb either dante or leftwich n Ihope LOREEZEEN CUT FROM NY

  363. MR Says:

    Wow, Oakglenn, just reviewed today’s activities. No doubt it’s you posting as “Pulling chicks but not Oakglenn”. You know, it’s more like, “Not pulling chicks and I am Oakglenn”.

    Again, Oak, you’re caught posting under other people’s names. Something you wined to the administrators about over their own phones on Easter Sunday. This is why they don’t take you seriously, Oak. That, and this thing is all about money, anyway. More posts, more hits, more revenue. Oakglenn, you’re just in a bad spot. Maybe it’s time you high tailed it and left the place.

  364. Obamamustgo Says:

    “I’ve now been in 57 states — I think one left to go.” –Barack Obama, at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon

  365. Oakglenn Says:

    Hey MR how does my ass taste??

  366. Obamamustgo Says:

    “It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” –Barack Obama, explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters

  367. MR Says:

    Obama can say whatever he wants, OMG. Did Bush’s “bush-isms” hurt him? No. Heck, they helped him. Americans related to his humility. Obama is a liberal, black version of the same thing. He’s charismatic. The only way to bring him down is with a better candidate (and McCain is far from it). With Obama’s ability to hold a room, and not to mention work a camera, any and all slander will be brushed off of his sleeve like lint.

  368. Riverside Raiders Fan Says:

    4evaRaider…post 220, 53 and others:

    220 was an excellent post…you’re so right on. Do you ever watch Bill Maher on HBO? He spends most of his show ragging on Bush & Chaney, especially Bush being such an idiot…McCain will be a 4 year re-run of Bush if he wins, but I doubt he will.

  369. Obamamustgo Says:

    “The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity.She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, you know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred in our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”

  370. MR Says:

    Oakglenn, I don’t know how your ass tastes. I’ve only seen it, every day on this blog. Your grandest ass showing moment in here was your claim that you pull chicks. We’ll be laughing about that for the duration of this blog’s existence, Oak.

  371. Riverside Raiders Fan Says:

    Al’s Bedpan post 83 & 90:

    Al’s Bedpan = MR…Evidently you know nothing. Look around you dude. Our youth are being killed and crippled in a war we shouldn’t be in. Our economy is going down the tubes and we’ve been put in the hold financailly 9 trillion dollars with this war. Chaney and Halley-Burton are happy those, with their billions. Get out of “la-la-land,” and focus on reality.

    Maybe you can vote for Ralph Nader, he’ll give you a VW, a dollar off ona gallon of gas coupon and a green apple.

  372. MR Says:

    Riverside, you can refer to whoever you want to and think you’re responding to whoever you want to. I’m the real MR, and I’m for Obama. Don’t be another Oakglenn and fall victim to this every single person who criticizes Al Davis has to be MaddenRaider mentality. You can see how retarded he is. You’ve still got a chance.

  373. MR Says:

    Riverside, considering you’re a Chicano from Riverside I’m going to take a wild guess that you’re Catholic. Will you be seeing Maher’s film this summer? It’s pretty much a documentary film mocking all religion. Maher’s show comes back on HBO in late August. Too bad we know Carlin won’t be on the panel this season.

  374. MR Says:

    # Obamamustgo Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    “The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity.She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, you know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred in our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”

    ……

    The truest thing Obama ever said. I applaud him for it. And, I’m not alone. He’s ahead of McCain by 15 points.

  375. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    kk: 330 again. i don’t know who obama is. do you? or is it just an alternative? again, if you’re on the wrong road to you take a left for the hell of it? for change? also, mccain (i’m not voting for him) is considered a “liberal republican”. dude.. you should really see what these guys are about. you stereotype a lot.

    also, who said i like ron paul??? that’s another ignorant comment. How is he similar to Mitt romney????

  376. Oakglenn Says:

    Hey MR, how does my ass taste???

  377. MR Says:

    Jim, get real. It’s a two party system. What people perceive as the lesser of two evils always prevails. Americans just aren’t buying McCain’s message or image, which gives Barack and his charisma the edge.

  378. MR Says:

    Oakglenn, I don’t know how your ass tastes. Maybe Dakota does. But homie don’t play that, over here. I do know you are an ass, however, and imitating Shaq’s rhyme isn’t going to distract anyone from it.

  379. Oakglenn Says:

    The best part of this is everyone on the blog can join in just like the crowd did for Shaq. We can all just keep repeating this splendid well thought out mantra: Hey MR how does my ass taste????

  380. Oakglenn Says:

    That’s it! I’ve had enough! This is my blog, and I won’t take it anymore! I’m now calling the administrators at their homes. I’ll go and visit them if I have to. Yes, this is that serious. This blog is my life!!! Soon as I’m done with that, then it’s off to pull chicks.

  381. Oakglenn Says:

    Walker is a bum!!! How dare he act like this when Al Davis gave him this opportunity??? Al Davis made him one of the highest paid players in the league! He was supposed to live up to that, even though he hasn’t the talent or maturity to do so, and everyone knew it. It’s why Denver and GB wouldn’t give him a dime. And, perhaps Al should have seen that…but no way!! I will never blame Al! Never!!!! Al made the right choice. Now Walker has to magically turn into Jerry Rice! I’m coming for all of you trolls! MR, how’s my ass taste? I pull chicks!!1

  382. Raider94620 Says:

    yeah mr, how does my ass taste

  383. Oakglenn Says:

    I pull chicks!!! I pull chicks!!! yaaay!!!!

    MR, how’s my ass taste?

  384. Oakglenn Says:

    If the best you can do is post as me, you’re a loser who is melting down again. HAHAHAHAHA!!! hey MR how does my ass taste??

  385. Oakglenn Says:

    There you go, raider94620!!! Let’s do this!! Let’s keep this going!!! Everyone after me, “MR, How’s my ass taste?!?!?”

    This is so awesome. this is the best day of my life!!!

    I pull chicks, too. In case anyone was wondering.

  386. Oakglenn Says:

    He’s Melting down faster than 3 mile island.

  387. Oakglenn Says:

    yaay, yaay, how’s my ass taste, MR? How’s my poopy butt? This is cool. Everyone is joining in with me. I have friends. I pull chicks, too. Yaaay. MR, how’s my ass taste? LOL. HA HA. yes. ha ha.

  388. Kobe Bryant Says:

    How DOES his ass taste MR??

  389. Oakglenn Says:

    He’s melting down faster than 3 mile island! He is. I own him. I have friends. I pull chicks. yaaay. yaaay. MR, how’s my poopy butt taste? yaaay. lol. ha ha. hee.

  390. Oakglenn Says:

    He’s now melting down faster than Chernobyl!!! This is classic!!!!

  391. Oakglenn Says:

    This is my blog, and my friends here agree with me. I can call the moderators. I have their number. IT’s right next to my teachers’ number. yaaay. So, how’s my ass taste, MR? ha ha ha. This is so cool. Yes!

  392. Raider Vic Says:

    How does my ass taste maddenraider?

  393. Oakglenn Says:

    He’s now melting down faster than Chernobly!!! This is classic!!! yaaay! This is so cool! How’s my ass taste, MR? How’s my ass taste, Javon Walker? ha aha ahahahaha. Yes!!! I pull chicks.

  394. Oakglenn Says:

    Yes, yes, Raider Vic, that’s so cool! You’re my friend, Raider Vic. How’s my poopy but taste? yaaay. yaaay. How’s my poopy but taste, Mike shanarat? We’re going to beat you 52- 0. So how’s my ass taste? I pull chicks.

  395. MR Says:

    OK Oakglenn I’ve had enough. I can’t help it I’m a fat ugly loser with no hope. Screw Al Davis, Go niners.

  396. MR Says:

    Wow, from the looks of things, OG, you’re the one melting down. And, it’s cool you pull chicks, Oakglenn. I always knew you did, but. Try and keep cool about it, buddy. Because when you keep bragging about it, people start to wonder if you’re exaggerating.

  397. Oakglenn Says:

    Another classic MR meltdown

  398. MR Says:

    Oakglenn, it’s bad enough you’re going on this rampage about pulling chicks and licking butts, but now you’re posting under my name, too? Isn’t this something you’ve railed against, Oakglenn? What a hypocrite. This is exactly why the mods here laugh at you, and ignore you stupid phone messaged. post 395 was not me, people. It was Oakglenn, Mr. Never posts under other names, himself.

  399. MR Says:

    I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down. I’m not melting down.

  400. Oakglenn Says:

    Another classic MR Meltdown!!! Eat my ass, MR! Eat my ass, Jerry. Eat my ass, Mike Shanarat. I pull chicks!!

  401. MR Says:

    Wow, Oakglenn. Talk about melting down. post 399 is not me, people. It’s Mr. above and beyond posting under other peoples names, who frequently contacts the mods as their homes to snitch on people who be believes are doing it. How pathetic.

  402. MR Says:

    Oakglenn, again, I don’t eat ass. I don’t go near it. Not even on chicks. I stay away from that side of the building. But since you know a lot about it, Oakglenn, how’s Jon Gruden’s ass taste? How’s Mike Shannahan’s ass taste? how’s Kiffin’s ass taste? (future reference)

  403. Barry Zito Says:

    you’re more of a loser than me MR. How does my ass taste MR

  404. MR Says:

    Goodnight, Oakglenn. Have fun with the ass play.

  405. MR Says:

    Oh, and your chicks, Oakglenn. Because I’m sure you have a harem of them with you by your desktop…even if they’re in other tabs.

    See you tomorrow, Oakglenn.

  406. Al Davis's drool cup attendant Says:

    Wow, over 400 posts on a thread about signing a fourth string quarterback! The internet will probably explode if the Raiders actually sign a worthwhile player. By the way, Al loves ketchup poured on his vanilla ice cream. Problem is, he is lactose intolerant and it backs up his system. Which explains the pained expression on his face sometimes.

  407. MR Says:

    Oh, but Keller is a worthwhile player, Al’s drool cup. He was schooled under the great Bill Callahan, an Al Davis prodigy.

  408. Sebastian Says:

    I love the Keller signing, I believe that he’ll end up being the #3 Qb. He fits the system better then Andrew Walter. Always liked Walter & I think in the right system (Norv Turner Offense) he’ll do well.

  409. CopenhagenFan Says:

    Dakota..don’t diss Denmark or the system.

    When I lived in California, I paid about 40% in taxes (national and state income taxes) and got nothing but highways, war machines and lousy public secondary schools. Now I pay about 45% and get free medical care, free college for my kid, subsidized child care, which is cheap, my wife gets about 200 bucks a month in child support from the government, I have good public transport so I don’t need a car, AND I get 6 weeks of paid vacation.

    I love the U.S. but the system does not compare.

  410. CopenhagenFan Says:

    plus this place is FILLED with hot sexually liberated women ha ha……

  411. CopenhagenFan Says:

    but they have lousy ketchup in Denmark….

  412. Andrews mom Says:

    Daily Reminder: This place still sucks

    But the new blogmasters seem to be able to write a paragraph or three more often then once every three days.

    Question about the shaq how does my butt taste comment?

    What does it mean? Did kobe and shack have mansex?
    If shack had beat lowbeam up or defeated him in the finals I could understand the comment but it seems out of place unless they had mansex on the downlow.

  413. Andrews mom Says:

    #409

    Its easy to ply all the money stolen from the subjects into goodies for them if you do not have to spend money on defense. The world is not free bubble up and rainbow stew. Someone has to keep shipping lanes open and try to keep any more hitlers from arising.

  414. Eyepatch Says:

    Obama’s charisma? lol, He looks like one of the Adams Family.

  415. 408RAIDER Says:

    dude we just got done with the politics every1 got all bent so please lets try not to go there today…. Morning NATION…….

  416. Andrews mom Says:

    dude, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this Raider blog has morphed into a frantic free for all for everything from obama being a fraud to basketball sucks.

  417. 408RAIDER Says:

    I hear ya man but every once in a while can we talk about the Raiders?? Jovans a butt pirate…. and basketball dose suk IMO

  418. La Milicia Negra Says:

    CopenhagenFan…

    LOL, yeah, Heinz is the only ketchup worth buying, though it really hurts me to put money in the Kraft-machine =)

  419. Eyepatch Says:

    Obama is a fraud, he is Bushes black mini me.

  420. Andrews mom Says:

    Heres some more Raider news.

    NEWSFLASH: Javon has issues

    http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/25/more-irony-in-javon-mess/#comments

  421. Dakota Says:

    CopenhagenFan Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 3:00 am
    Dakota..don’t diss Denmark or the system.

    When I lived in California, I paid about 40% in taxes (national and state income taxes) and got nothing but highways, war machines and lousy public secondary schools. Now I pay about 45% and get free medical care, free college for my kid, subsidized child care, which is cheap, my wife gets about 200 bucks a month in child support from the government, I have good public transport so I don’t need a car, AND I get 6 weeks of paid vacation.

    I love the U.S. but the system does not compare.
    _______________________________________________________

    Your little soci@list paradise sounds wonderful! Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels would be proud!

    I guess you can afford to live that way because you are irrelevant and are afforded the protection of the United States, the watchdog of the free world. We got rid of the Germ@ns for you and then made sure the USSR didn’t gobble you up, and now you can live in peace for the first time in 30 centuries.

    You are welcome.

  422. Bill Pickel Says:

    Dakota – I want my shirt.

    Go Raiders.

  423. Dakota Says:

    408RAIDER Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
    Dakota Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
    408,

    And fuk Europe too!

    —————————————————————-
    LMAO… dude u were kinda harsh on LMN eairlier IMHO…. RAIDER ON
    _______________________________________________________

    408,

    LMN has thick skin…he will bounce right back. Well, then again, he is a “soft” European…but he is a Raiders’ fan so hopefully he is not quit as soft as the rest of his European counterparts.

  424. Dakota Says:

    Get me your info Bill and I will get you your shirt biotch! I’ve been asking for your info for a week now.

  425. Bill Pickel Says:

    Get me yor info BIOTCH.

    I don’t LIVE HERE.

    Go Raiders.

  426. Dakota Says:

    Bill,

    Here is the e-mail account I just created:

    fukeurope@yahoo.com

    e-mail me your address, jersey preference and size and I will see what I can do.

  427. Bill Pickel Says:

    Typical Faker fan.

    You make me sick.

    You run your mouth all day,

    but your WORD means nothing.

    Go Raiders.

  428. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    LOL, you are funny dude, you need to get your facts straight… you are the kind that when you hear something is the best in the US, they must be the best in the world… how many wars have the US won by themselves???

    oh yeah you might spend a few minutes on this one =)

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

    Soviet Union 168,500,000 23,100,000 13.71%
    United Kingdom 47,760,000 450,400 0.94%
    United States 131,028,000 418,500 0.32%

    So again thank you for joining the rest of the world for the last 2 minutes of the War, so very nice of you, but the Britts help us for 4 years and the Russians won the war. Period…

    Dakota you said “From all of us in the US…you are welcome…” I’d like to reply… but most american never did squad!

    I’m in awe for the few who did! all your young men who fought in the war, to all those women who was left behind… thank you. A bit late but that wasn’t you fault… It’s a pity that your sons and daughters have become what they have, when you who were young in the 40’s gave so much to the world… now a bunch of fatass americans reaps your legacy… and acts like they did it… sad!

    give me some freedom fries and some kasschup!

  429. LV LOCAL Says:

    Geez, when is training camp? I don’t think I can take much more of this kind of content. Today was just not right!

    common July

  430. La Milicia Negra Says:

    yo dakota…

    b15 and 8bd, what the??? does it mean we two are on notice

    your 422 and mine 429…

  431. La Milicia Negra Says:

    hmmm
    and not whe b15 and 8bd at the bottom of our posts gone… weird

  432. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Al Davis won WWII.

    Don’t bother responding.

    Just win baby.

  433. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo….

    I’ve read that too =)

  434. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    Typical self-serving European drivel. You are too proud to admit we saved your azzes. American money and supplies allowed England and Russia to hold out, and then we came in and finished another one of your European wars.

    You just can’t face facts can you…

    Lend-lease:

    It began in March 1941. A Total of $50.1 billion (equivalent to nearly $700 billion at 2007 prices) worth of supplies were shipped: $31.4 billion to Britain, $11.3 billion to the Soviet Union, $3.2 billion to France and $1.6 billion to China.

    The list below is the amount of war materiel shipped to the Soviet Union through the Lend-Lease program from its beginning until 30 September 1945:

    Aircraft 14,795
    Tanks 7,056
    Jeeps 51,503
    Trucks 375,883
    Motorcycles 35,170
    Tractors 8,071
    Guns 8,218
    Machine guns 131,633
    Explosives 345,735 tons
    Building equipment valued $10,910,000
    Railroad freight cars 11,155
    Locomotives 1,981
    Cargo ships 90
    Submarine hunters 105
    Torpedo boats 197
    Ship engines 7,784
    Food supplies 4,478,000 tons
    Machines and equipment $1,078,965,000
    Non-ferrous metals 802,000 tons
    Petroleum products 2,670,000 tons
    Chemicals 842,000 tons
    Cotton 106,893,000 tons
    Leather 49,860 tons
    Tires 3,786,000
    Army boots 15,417,001 pairs

    But go ahead and belittle the US you irrelevant European elitist. Whatever makes you and your little country feel important.

  435. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I like elitist…they know things, were the mob clings to their pathetic fantasies…

    and again so very nice of you to send some hardware, while the rest of the world helped to win the war with solders..

    and again i hope you have a great taste in your mouth, the lend-lease program wasn’t about to end the war, it was about making a profit on war, and others misery… again thank you =)

  436. Dakota Says:

    Making profit on war? Our government sure didn’t make a priofit, neither did our taxpayers:

    Lend-lease items retained were sold to Britain at the knockdown price of about 10 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR giving an initial value of £1,075 million. Payment was to be stretched out over 50 years at 2% interest. The final payment of $83.3 million (£42.5 million) due on 31 December 2006 (repayment having been deferred on several occasions) was made on 29 December 2006, it being the last working day of the year. After this final payment Britain’s Economic Secretary, Ed Balls, formally thanked the US for its wartime support.

  437. Dakota Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 6:41 am
    Bill,

    Here is the e-mail account I just created:

    fukeurope@yahoo.com

    e-mail me your address, jersey preference and size and I will see what I can do.
    _______________________________________________________
    Bill Pickel Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 6:45 am
    Typical Faker fan.

    You make me sick.

    You run your mouth all day,

    but your WORD means nothing.

    Go Raiders.
    _______________________________________________________

    WTF???? I provide you with an e-mail account to send me your information so that I can pay my debt and you say my word means nothing?

    Fuking moron.

  438. La Milicia Negra Says:

    yeah right….

    when have a lend lease thing not been about profit? and 2%interest over 50 years… thats like money in the bank

  439. Eric Farrell Says:

    The reason this blog has gone to S*it is because of the same three guys who come in here everyday, like they have no one to talk to about sports, etc face to face, and it gives the blog room this sense of weirdness..just like in any other online forum where people can discuss issues, it is mostly white people with sterotypical views on people who get to elaborate on their small minded views through the anonymity of the ‘net..most of these guys are just cornballs, period…

  440. Bill Pickel Says:

    DAKOTA IS A WELCHER.

    Go Raiders.

  441. 4evaRaider Says:

    MY GOD,I SWEAR WITH MY HAND ON MY HEART,I LOVE THIS BLOG.WHO NEEDS ANY OTHER FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT?I DIED AND WENT TO THE GREATEST MIND FORUM THAT EVER EXISTED,AND I AM NOT BEING FACETIOUS.RAIDER ON ALL MY BROTHERS.I AM PROUD OF ALL HERE.IM GOING 2 STORE,HGETTING A CASE OF FOSTERS AND WILL BE RIGHT BACK!!! I LOVE THIS PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  442. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    DON’T CALL ME A CORNBALL!! I HATE THAT!!

    I AM NOT A CORNBALL!!

    Just win baby.

  443. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Eric…

    its pretty limited how long we can talk quality talks about Sam Keller…

    yeah, he might be good, but we have Jammy, yeah Sam girlfriend is hot… what do you ant us to talk about… there isn’t anything to talk about right now…. if ther were, we would….

  444. Andrews mom Says:

    I agree Eric, but what is really important is what the heck did shack mean he said lowbeam licked his butt? I try to keep up with new stuff but that sounds shady , even for rap.

  445. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 7:46 am
    yeah right….

    when have a lend lease thing not been about profit? and 2%interest over 50 years… thats like money in the bank
    _____________________________________________________

    Hmmm, we give them the items for 10 cents on the dollar (10%) and then charge them 2% interest over 50 years and you think that is money in the bank???

    Wow LMN, I thought you were smarter than that.

  446. Eric Farrell Says:

    SHAQ is a hater

  447. Eric Farrell Says:

    What up DAKOTA?

  448. Bill Pickel Says:

    I think we can all agree on one thing,

    DAKOTA is the scum of the earth.

    Go Raiders

  449. Dakota Says:

    Eric…how’s it hangin’?

  450. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    I still love you my man…we can just agree to disagree. I may think most Europeans are quivering piles of shiit and you may think most Americans are lazy fatazzes, but at least we still both want the Raiders to rule.

  451. 4evaRaider Says:

    United States Supreme Court just handed down ruling about guns;We are allowed 2 have guns 4 hunting AND to protect ourselves.I am armed 2 the teeth anyway,but its good 2 know im no lawbreaker,on this subject anyway!!!

  452. 4evaRaider Says:

    RAIDER4LIFE;POST 335 GREAT POST TKO

  453. no more infield Says:

    Be glad when training camp starts so we can get back to football on this blog….

  454. section116row11seats12&13 Says:

    Shane Olivea is a gamble I would take especially at the minimum. He can play period and now hates the bolts what better way to get back at then then go to the raiders and help them get over on you!

    Keller is a talant and he will get an oppertunity to show his stuff in napa if he does well tui is gone and our backups are arizona state guys to go with our te. If he isn’t ready they put him on the practice team for the future and try to develope him into the future #2 when andrew goes off to sign a big money deal. but make no mistake those of you that are crying for dilfer or culpeper or a vet that’s not happening andrew won’t get traded he’s way too talented! When he came in he was more effective then the vet starters last year and had a better passer rating then JR for christ sakes! So lay off andrew and the trade take stateing he doesen’t fit kiffins system, you make yourselves sound unintellegent, if kiffin thought he was a bad fit he would’ve been gone! He works with the #2’s because he is the #2 and if JR goes down he is the guy so all you fan better warm up the walters chants if JR gets hurt! He will be more then solid if Kwy-me-a-river Harris is Sims lite!

  455. La Milicia Negra Says:

    nahh

    i don’t think, I KNOW, most american are lazy fatasses… and I know the russians lost 23M lives in WW2 where you only lost petty 400K….

  456. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 8:43 am
    nahh

    i don’t think, I KNOW, most american are lazy fatasses…
    _______________________________________________________

    There you go ladies and gentlemen…LMN’s opinion of all of us.

  457. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    come on man…. after what you have been saying about people from europe, have you aver been outside US in the first place?

    and btw I said most….

  458. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I guess this banter only goes one way?

    Thank God for the US, you are the best in the whole wide world you are the savior of mankind. Everything you’ve done the last 50 years have been a blessing. Thank you so much…

  459. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    I’ve been to Spain, Portugal, Ireland, UK, Canada (probably does not count) and the Bahamas.

    The women in the Bahamas seemed tougher than the Europeans I have met…

  460. What have you done for me lately Says:

    We Europeans screw up big time and allow Germany’s Charles Manson to get out of control. Now we want a country on the other side of the world to come in and fix it with free money and their entire military or we are going to call you fat and lazy 60 years later when everyone who faught in the war is dead.

  461. La Milicia Negra Says:

    hahaha…. well you are the fattest nation… and being fat is in my optic a sign of lazyness…

  462. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    In your optic? LMN you clearly have your-opia…

    Try googling the MARSHALL PLAN and then saying a polite thank you USA.

    If no Marshall Plan, Copenhagen = Gdansk

  463. What have you done for me lately Says:

    Russia lost 23 million solders? Or 23 million lives? If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t Germany actually on Russian soil? Compairing how many Russians died by the hands of German solders while they were in Russia and how many American solders died while being sent into Europe(most through Normandy Beach) is pathetic.

  464. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Denmark alone got US$300 mil, Europe got US$12 Billion (back when that was serious money).

  465. What have you done for me lately Says:

    LMN,

    You need to lay off that free heroin your wonderful government keeps supplying you.

  466. 4evaRaider Says:

    First;imho the U.S. took a detour when the actor who played second fiddle 2 a monkey was elected president.We found our way again,payed off national debt when we had a slick president.Then we took another detour and just about ufcked up everything with current idiots.Is it just me or does it seem every time a rebublican gets in office,with thier holyier than thou attitude the world goes straight 2 hell?????

  467. Lowdown in Beijing Says:

    LMN–Guten Morgen mein Freund…are you still slagging my fellow country men?

  468. Lowdown in Beijing Says:

    Whoa…going back and reading the most recent posts…

    Little erudite for my tastes and a bit prolix to boot….

    All I know is the Fresno State Bulldogs sit atop college baseball with the MVP coming from my small humble hometown.

    Try and beat that LMN… ;)

  469. 4evaRaider Says:

    Second; row 116; A rookie NEVER led a team through 14 or 16 game season,playoffs and superbowl.david woodley/dan marino was as close as it got.I always personally like AW,rifle arm,needs time 2 develop.Here we go again,but even Stabler sat bench for 4 years.Defences are wayyyy 2 smart and intimidating 4 ayoung QB.If it wasnt 4 JMACs incredible talent and surounding talent,I would be concerned.I dont think AD ever let someone so young take control of THE NATION.Maybe some think AD is walking the plank by putting 1 so young at QB,I dont think so.ITS the #2 QB that I worry about,but like I said I think AW has all the 2 BE sucessfull

  470. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    DO NOT CALL MY POSTS PROLIX!! OOOO THAT GETS ME SO MAD…

    (Isn’t prolix what Kobe did to Shaq’s backyard?)

  471. 4evaRaider Says:

    Congratulations Fresno State

  472. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hey BO; dems fightin words if I ever heard em!!!!!!!!!!

  473. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LOL You should see what I did to the last guy who called my posts prolix…

  474. no more infield Says:

    Actually read that Mexico is now the fattest nation. US is not far behind though. Fast food is a fast track to poor health….

  475. no more infield Says:

    Is there a way we could get Haynesworth? He is not working out with the team and wants out…

  476. Raider4life Says:

    Do any of the “student athletes” at Fresno State actually go to class? Never heard of one.

  477. Raider4life Says:

    Haynesworth said yesterday he want to be a Titan, is working out harder on his own and expects to be at training camp. I’m more worried about Nnamdi being in camp. Seems like they got something good goin on with the DB’s now that Lil Puss Stui is gone. Would hate to ruin it with a holdout.

  478. Dakota Says:

    Go Raiders!

  479. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Kudos, to the Fresno State Bulldogs For winning the CWS.

    (just wish that they could of had a 3/5 or 4/7 series, so that I could see more of Erin Andrews though.)

  480. 4evaRaider Says:

    RAIDER4LIFE; I dont think Nnmadi will hold out,its just the business side rearing its ugly head again.I mean the air is filled with so much excitement and electricty Im sure he would want 2 be a part of it!!!Man I sure hope Im right on this one,we dont need any more negativity on the team.ALL TOGETHER NOW NATION!!!!

  481. Dakota Says:

    Kudos to the Supreme Court!

  482. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota -

    Since Bill Pickel swallower is obviously an idiot, can I have that jersey? What jersey is it?

  483. Raider4life Says:

    4eva–I think you are probably right. DeAngelo Hall sure seems to be reborn as does Huff. Wilson went to Oak Grove HS and is happy to be home. Could be our best defensive backfield since Hayes/Haynes/Davis/McElroy.

  484. Dakota Says:

    Dogg,

    You don’t want a Celtic’s jersey do you?

  485. RaiderDogg Says:

    OH HELL NO! F*ck the Celtics!

    I wouldn’t mind a new McFadden authentic. Doesn’t someone owe you one of those?

  486. RaiderDogg Says:

    D -

    I saw a comedian do a bit last night about how Europeans hate Americans and it reminded me of you. He was talking about how he was riding around with a cabby who was talking mad sh*t about America and Americans in general. Lazy, fat, blah blah blah. Then after saying how much America sucks he says “Are you hungry? We’ve got Burger King, McDonalds or TGIFridays. If you want a pick me up we can swing by a Starbucks. You lazy Americans like coffee right?”

  487. 4evaRaider Says:

    Raider4life definitely they are solid.without playing a down I think they are.If they get 2 be as good as them WHOO-HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!They be smokin good!!!!!!!Also,Iwish I would have thought of that Dogg!!!!!

  488. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Dakota…

    Hey, since you are having such a difficult time, in giving away jersey(s).

    I have been on the look out for a deal on a Dave Casper throw back jersey, to add to my collection.

    Size, 48-52 in black, short-sleeve works for me.

    p.s. mesh style would be cool, if you can find it. Thanks.

  489. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 8:57 am

    hahaha…. well you are the fattest nation… and being fat is in my optic a sign of lazyness…
    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 9:01 am

    In your optic? LMN you clearly have your-opia…

    Try googling the MARSHALL PLAN and then saying a polite thank you USA.

    If no Marshall Plan, Copenhagen = Gdansk
    _____________________________________________________

    yeah I see fat people as lazy… too lazy to make real and healthy food, too lazy to exercise, too LAZY peroid!

  490. RaiderDogg Says:

    LMN -

    That is a pretty gross generalization. You know better than that. Saying everyone in America is fat and lazy is like saying all soccer players are gay. Maybe some of them are but not all of them.

    I hate to say it, but you are coming off as some kind of elitist.

  491. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo…

    regarding the Marshall Plan…

    well the discussion here was who liberated the europeans from the naz1es… not who whelped the rebuilding…

    there can be no doubt that all people in europe are in debt to the russians for liberating, and we thank your grand fathers (not you) for supporting the russians…

    The Marshall plan was something of the smartest ever to unfold after a war… Germany wouldn’t have become such a power in the 60’s if it hadn’t been for the Marshall plan… but remember… all factories, were bombed to oblivion so we had nothing to start from…. gdasnk is in poland btw…

  492. Dakota Says:

    RED BRYANT UPDATE:

    6/19/08 – Red Bryant has made an impression simply because he seems to be so much more than the run-stuffing player the Seahawks thought they may have drafted. Granted, no pads were involved in OTAs, but Bryant regularly beat his man and made some plays that turned heads on more than one occasion. He has zero technique so the coaches think he can only get better.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=8859

    WAY TO GO AL! Thank god we traded up to the top of round four to draft a special teams player instead of a run-stuffing DT. We are solid against the run, lol.

  493. DeepBall Says:

    CamelJockey,

    You ought to be more careful who you’re calling a moron. Making slurs isn’t enough without any factual reponse. Denmark is a puny, little insignificant country full of warped ideas. Belgium, too. The Soviet Union and the German infantry simply slaughtered each other on the Eastern front. Meanwhile we pulvarized the German industrial machine, won on the western front with help from our stalwart fiends, the British and the Australians, plus we were beat back the Japanese war machine. And what did Denmark do, Belgium do, Switzerland do, Luxemborg, et al? I’m sick to death of listening to a bunch of ingrates whine about America? I lived in Europe and could see quite clearly the poor little things haven’t gotten the hang of being independent. They still wear the yoke of the monarchists and still have their hands out and can’t think beyond the bureaucrat that is going to steal their money and make decisions for them…just the bunch of idiots Voltaire took them for…in need of a non-hereditary autocrat to answer all questions form them…don’t stop Dakota give the little w##nies what they deserve. The modern Bolsheviks is wide spread in this country…they are educated in our colleges, adored in our media…they dream for the hybrid Marxist state…they regurgitate Marx and Engels without even knowing it…and aspire to the lyrics of Imagine…CamelJockey gfys

  494. RaiderDogg Says:

    909 -

    http://www.fansedge.com/Dave-Casper-Oakland-Raiders-Black-NFL-Premier-Throwback-Jersey_289567123_PD.html

  495. Raider4life Says:

    Why do euros think Americans are lazy?? We work a lot more hours and get less vacation than virtually every euro country. You ever see any 40+yo euro women?? Talk about fat and ugly.

  496. La Milicia Negra Says:

    dogg…

    I said most…. never did I say everybody… please show me where i said all…

    I said Fat people are lazy… if you disagree well fine by me… I will alway think of fat people as lazy…

  497. DeepBall Says:

    Post 410,

    Yea they stand in windows behind glass and are infected…

  498. La Milicia Negra Says:

    and you are the land of the obese… you can not talk your way out of that.. but I’m sure you all will try =)

  499. Dakota Says:

    I wouldn’t trade one obese lazy American for 10 of you spineless Europe@ns….well…maybe Rosie O’Donnell.

  500. RaiderDogg Says:

    LMN -

    settle down, contrary to what you may believe, you are not better than everyone else. I’m sure that won’t stop you from continuing to paint such a picture of yourself.

  501. Raider4life Says:

    Rosie O’Donnell quite possible is the ugliest woman ever.

  502. Dakota Says:

    Raider4Life,

    I don’t know about that, have you seen the Queen of Denmark?

    http://www.j-archive.com/media/2006-02-03_DJ_30a.jpg

  503. DeepBall Says:

    LMN,

    When the US joined the fight…Germany was in control of the Eurpopean continent. Did you miss that one…the Russians were shooting their own men in the back at Stalingrad for running away. I don’t recall the Russians fighting the Japanese, do you. They were busy letting winter do the work for them…fighting a battle of attrition wasting their men in a slow, horrific slaughter, thus boosting the numbers that you are pointing to. Another point, and in 2 and 1/2 years beat 2 entrenched and well supplied and dedicated armies with some help. The point is the Britsh, the Russians, and nevermind the French could only manage a grinding defensive fight, NEVER AN OFFENSIVE FIGHT. YFI.

  504. Raider4life Says:

    Dakota–you sure that ain’t a dude dressed up?

  505. La Milicia Negra Says:

    -Dogg

    What?

    you better read my post instead of what people think i wrote!

    I never said all americans… Never… I said all fattys are lazy….

    for the record… I don’t hate americans, I hate they way the are taught to think of them selves…

    I never said europe are better, never said that US is bad.. I stated that there are som obvious things that I never will understand about the US…

    The discusssion was that the US did NOT win WW2, the Russians did, and we a happy around here for your support… but thats all it was…support…

    If I said something negative about your people then I stand by it… but I don’t think I have… if then please show me…

  506. Raider4life Says:

    Tell you what, I seen a lot better lookin dudes (not that I’m into that sort of thing) walking around in Thailand. Rosie O’donnell couldn’t even compete in an ugly dude contest there. She defines the words “hefty 3ply”.

  507. RaiderDogg Says:

    LMN -

    I have read everything you have written and I still think you come off as elitist and judgemental.

    Just my opinion based on everything that I have read you write, not what others have said.

    Let me guess, Americans don’t have a mind of their own and are unable to formulate an opinion based on facts? You must be confused with the gross generalizations that you have already created within your mind, that is causing you to miss the big picture.

    No point in back pedaling, I know what you said. Your view is so much more narrow than I ever realized.

  508. 909raiderlifer Says:

    RaiderDogg…#494.

    Thanks for looking out!

    That is a VERY dangerous site, over 1000 Raider items can be found there. More dangerous than the tool dept. at Sears.

    Now, just have to figure a winning bet to make w/ Dakota lol.

  509. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 10:51 am

    -Dogg

    If I said something negative about your people then I stand by it… but I don’t think I have… if then please show me…
    _______________________________________________________

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 8:43 am
    nahh

    i don’t think, I KNOW, most american are lazy fatasses…

    _______________________________________________________

    hmmmm, kind of sounds negative too me…

    The funny thing is, is that our fat lazy azzes work circles around you…what does that say about you people?

  510. RaiderDogg Says:

    D -

    Good looking out, I am refraining from getting any more involved in this discussion with LMN. I just wanted to give him a little perspective on how he is perceived by someone not directly involved in your conversation.

  511. DeepBall Says:

    LMN,

    Continuation of post 503

    And I don’t think the situation has changed any…instead they send over the lawyers and the comparative law crowd to try and re-write the laws of this country through a bunch of slezy hacks in black robes.

    We don’t need a bunch Euro-centric punks belly-aching about Americans…I heard enough that conceited, arrogant bs when I was there…and Volvo and brie cheesse isn’t enough to get all high-minded and proud about…a lot of American men died there to stop a political movement they did nothing about when they had the chance. YOU CAN”T REWRITE THAT HISTORY…

    …stick to football

  512. Impartial observer Says:

    I agree completely with RaiderDogg. LMN comes off as insufferably smug. Sure, America has its share of problems, but who doesn’t? It ain’t easy being the most powerful nation on earth. Try it sometime. Oh that’s right, you can’t, because you’re weak. And to downplay the role that America played in turning back the Nazis because they didn’t enter until late is like saying that Mariano Rivera didn’t contribute much to the Yankees World Series wins because he only pitched the ninth inning. Shut up and quit while you’re behind, LMN.

  513. La Milicia Negra Says:

    man you guys are funny…

    first…I don’t care about the japanese… you joined in 44, when the war was 4 years old…. thats late, and thats why I said you joined for the last 2 min…

    I never said you can’t think of your self… I said I don’t like the way you are taught to think…

    and yeah I like elitists… not that I think the elite would rule I think the mob should learn from the elite…

    if you think I’m an elitist, then thank you very much. thats a great compliment…

  514. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Dakota…#502.

    OUCH.. I was just contemplating on what to do for lunch. Will need a couple of Rollaids first now..

  515. RaiderDogg Says:

    Nice Mariano analogy Impartial Observer.

  516. 4evaRaider Says:

    Wheres EX when you need him?Maybe Dakota can help.If anyone took the time to look in the backgrounds on the news during the floods in midwest,presidential primaries you would notice “most” people in those scenes are overweight.From 1950-1979 soda-pop makers didnt use a variety of SYRUPS,like corn,fructose,whatever.Around 1980 when they did,kids started getting fatter.I use to weigh 231 lbs,weigh 212 now and didnt change a thing except I stopped drinking sodas.Every once in a while I still have a DR.PEPPER.Also TYPE2 diabetis started showing up at this time.ITS THE I THINK.what you think???

  517. 4evaRaider Says:

    the syrup i think

  518. La Milicia Negra Says:

    dakota…

    okay… but I said most… and most are fat… and if you see fats as lazy (as I do) then the chain of thought is valid

  519. RaiderDogg Says:

    LMN -

    Not that you care, but I am losing respect for you. Not your entire country and every Dane on Earth, just you. I used to appreciate your perspective, but now your true colors are showing and I don’t respect what I see.

    I hate to say this stuff because I used to have a different opinion of you. I’m not bashing you either, I’m just being honest.

  520. MR Says:

    # Eyepatch Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 5:05 am

    Obama’s charisma? lol, He looks like one of the Adams Family.

    …..

    I haven’t talked to a woman yet that doesn’t find Obama attractive, even women supporting McCain. You’re clueless.

  521. Raider4life Says:

    If you cut out the soda and chips all together and just do some walking you will lose about 5lbs a month if you are overweight.

  522. RaiderMight Says:

    From Raiders.com:

    Oakland Raiders kicker Sebastian Janikowski is entering his ninth season with the Silver and Black. In eight years, the 6′2″, 250-pound native of Poland has scored a total of 808 points by way of field goals and extra points. The 808 points are currently good enough for third place in scoring in team history.

    In 2008, Janikowski could become the all-time leading scorer in Raiders history. K Chris Bahr and Pro Football Hall of Fame QB/K George Blanda sit in front of Janikowski. Bahr scored 817 points during his Raider career which spanned from 1980-88. Blanda spent 1967-75 with the Silver and Black and scored 863 points.

    In 2007, Janikowski passed Bahr’s total of made field goals. His 50-yard field goal in the first quarter of the October 28, 2007, contest versus the Titans in Tennessee gave him 163 in his pro career and set a team record for most all-time field goals in the regular season. His third field goal of that game moved him ahead of Bahr for most field goals as a Raider in the regular and post-season.

    Janikowski needs just 10 points to move past Bahr into second place, and 56 to move past Blanda and become the all-time leading scorer in Raiders history. Janikowski has averaged 101 points per season since entering the NFL as the Raiders first round choice in the 2000 NFL Draft. He has scored more than 100 points in a season four times during his career.
    The former Florida State standout’s 54-yard field goal during the November 25 contest against the Chiefs in Kansas City was his second from that distance in 2007 and tied for the second-longest of his pro career and second-longest in team history. He also converted on a 54-yarder on October 28 against the Titans. Janikowski’s 55-yard field goal in the November 12, 2006, contest against Denver tied his own Raider record set on November 2, 2003, versus the Lions in Detroit.

    His five field goals on November 18, 2007, versus the Vikings in Minnesota tied a team record and marked the third time he has accomplished that feat. Janikowski also kicked four field goals on September 23, 2007 against Cleveland. Janikowski almost set an NFL record for longest field goal when he narrowly missed a 64-yard attempt that hit the right upright during the November 4 contest against Houston.

  523. Thec Says:

    Corn fructose is in my opinion bad news. You could put it in the same category as aspartame, and fluoride.

  524. RaiderDogg Says:

    I know longer wish to contribute to this negativity.

    I just wish California would stop burning so we could all breathe a little easier, figuratively and metaphorically.

  525. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dogg…

    okay… what have change?

    and deepball…
    you’re right… but as I said in previous posts… I’m in awe of the men who served, who gave their lives and the women left behind… I think its sad that their legacy is ruined by their grandchildren…

    but 400K against 23M losses… is the fact!

    and for the record…I’m not saying i’m better than any of you or your fellow americans… i’m just statin the russians won WW2…

    But what the americans did, they won the peace… the marshall plan as someone here mention was a stroke of genius… we don’t ow you anything for helping us in WW2 but we ow you all alot for the help after the war… by that I also mean the cold war…

  526. La Milicia Negra Says:

    RaiderDogg…

    I do care =)

  527. Raider4life Says:

    RM- Those stats are a bit misleading IMO. Look to see who is the all-time leader in return yardage. Chris “I’m a whiney b*tch who never returned anything for a touchdown” Carr. Only reason why fatboy will be the leading scoring in Raider history is simply time spent here. Almost every football related site has him rated no higher than #25 in the league this year.

    PS Carr did have one INT for a TD

  528. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LMN, I know Gdansk is in Poland, thats my point. The Marshall Plan helped Western Europe, meaning without the plan all of Europe would have been stagnant, not just the east.

    I chose Gdansk as an example because it is a northern port town (as is Copenhagen).

  529. RaiderDogg Says:

    LMN -

    Ok, no worries. I just don’t want to continue down this negative road. I see your basic point which I think is, no matter what your nationality may be, fat = lazy.

    I apologize if I over reacted.

  530. MR Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 6:25 am

    “Your little soci@list paradise sounds wonderful! Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels would be proud!”

    …..

    Dakota, what business is it of yours how another country runs their economy?

  531. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I know I haven’t answered you all, but too many post to count…

    I really struck a nerve… I guess… I still think the Russians won the war… you won the peace…

    I’m off to watch tonights game, so I’m sorry if I don’t answer…. I guess Most here are glad that i’m gone

  532. MR Says:

    # Raider4life Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 11:12 am

    If you cut out the soda and chips all together and just do some walking you will lose about 5lbs a month if you are overweight.

    ……

    Avoid red meat and foods with a lot of salt and you’ll lose even more, not to mention see a decrease in blood pressure.

  533. RaiderDogg Says:

    If you can eliminate refined sugar from your diet the pounds will fly off.

  534. Raider4life Says:

    Dogg–doesn’t most processed foods contain refined sugar? I don’t even touch red meat and don’t salt my food and still gots high BP.

  535. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo

    true… but again the marshall plan has very little to do with what happened before 1945… as I said you won the peace.. and gave us protection during hte cold war…

    Dogg… yup I see fat people as lazy… I know its not poular, even here in DK people think that far fetch… but if you are exercise, it doesn’t cost anything..make healthier food and so on…

    regarding WW2 400K against 23M thats just how I see it..

    have a nice night… I don’t know who to root for russians or spain… think it will be spain… then of course russia will win, and the other way around LOL

  536. Dakota Says:

    20 minutes of cardio 3 times a week + weight lifting 4 times a week…then you can pretty much eat the foods you want (in moderation) and still be in decent shape.

  537. Silver and Black Attack Says:

    hey mr, how’s my ass taste lol

  538. RaiderDogg Says:

    Warren Sapp had this to say regarding Jon Gruden coaching the Bucs to a victory in the SB per pft.com:

    “I always say this: The damn cake was already in the oven,” Sapp said. “It was just a matter of when it came out. All Jon had to do was put the icing on it.”

    That’s not a very ringing endorsement of Jon Gruden. Sorry MR ;)

  539. MR Says:

    I was watching something on the news about there being more cases of type 2 diabetes (the type that’s usually acquired through poor dieting) in the South than anywhere else in the country. They were talking about how it’s a burden on our health care system, and people there are doing little about it in regards to changing their lifestyle. But notice southerners are quick to lecture everyone else on accountability (don’t even get white southerners started on blacks). But evidently they can’t keep themselves out of ER’s from diabetes and overall obesity complications, which is costing all of us.

  540. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LOL @ 537

  541. MR Says:

    Raiderdogg, I agree with Warren Sapp. Jon Gruden deserves very little credit for that Tampa Bay team winning the Super Bowl. However, he deserves just about all of the credit for our success between ‘00 and ‘02.

  542. RaiderDogg Says:

    Raiders4life -

    I just know as soon as I stopped taking in sugar I lost like 30 pounds in 3 months. I still eat natural sugar like fruits and stuff, but no more refined sugar. No more booze either because your body metabolizes alcohol into sugar.

    I changed my life after my son was born. I wasn’t hugely overweight but I did have some extra pounds.

  543. Silver And Black Attack Says:

    Hey MR, how’s my ass taste? Ha ha!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Woo hoo!!!!!

  544. RaiderDogg Says:

    MR -

    I was just messin’ with you anyway.

  545. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    MR,

    Most Southern whites also talk about how they hate big government, but they want the same government to tell a woman and her doctor what they can do to her body.

    I think hypocrisy is a side effect of grits and grease.

  546. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Ha ha ha, yes!!! You said it, Silver and Black Attack!!1 Huge lol!!! 543!!! This is so cool!! We’re showing him, man. We own him. How’s my ass taste, MR? ha ha hha. Ha ha. ha. Yes.

  547. MR Says:

    Bo, S&B Attack, really, settle down, guys. It’s a good one. We get it. Shaq’s a cool guy.

  548. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yes it has 2 be diet .I remember my great-aunt going blind back in 60s.My grandma[her sister]died in1973 from diabetes.There was no type 2 then.Thankz guys

  549. MR Says:

    Agreed, Bo. The biggest hypocrisy in politics today is abortion/marijuana. People anti abortion want the federal government to ban marijuana, but want states to choose on abortion.

  550. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    4evaRaider

    Like the Terminator said “I’m Back”

    First point
    LMN, We entered the war in 1941, not 1944. Decided to take the easiest one out first, so we took out Italy. Turned our attention to Herr Hitler and then the Japanese.
    Because of our pacifist Neutrality Act, we had to trick the Japanese to attack us by cutting off their oil with an embargo. To proceed with their China invasion, they needed the oil. So they attacked us 12-07-1941. Germany foolishly declared war on us 2 days later.
    We fought all over the globe to secure Western Civilization and any disrespect of our effort during WW2 is reprehensible. And yes the Japanese even captured American Territory occuping the Aleution Islands of Alaska.
    Uncle Joe Stalin killed as many Russians as the Germans and without our help would have fallen to the Germans.
    Second point:
    A rookie did carry his team through all 16 games to the Super Bowl. Ben Rothleisberger of the Steelers.
    Love and peace!

  551. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Wow, I am putting post 546 on my resume…MY FIRST TROLL IMPOSTOR!!!

    NOW I AM SOMEBODY!

  552. MR Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 11:39 am

    Wow, I am putting post 546 on my resume…MY FIRST TROLL IMPOSTOR!!!

    NOW I AM SOMEBODY!

    ……

    How’s my ass taste, Bo?
    :)

  553. Jon Gruden Says:

    Hey Al Davis, how’s my ass taste?

  554. DeepBall Says:

    LMN,

    Obviously, you don’t read anything, but just watch TV. Saying the Russians won WWII is about the most unintelligent thing I have ever heard. You’re the perfect “useful idiot” that Lenin talked about. The ignorant slaughter the Russians perpetrated on their people through bumbling military tactics doesn’t equate to “winning.” The lack of Air power and a Navy at that time doesn’t equate to “winning.” It just meant more dead people than anybody else. Russia simply put people on the front line and got them shot…they weren’t very successful at attacking the infrastructure, the supply lines of Germany. Stalingrad and the Battle of Britain are two the great epic lines in the sand, but were won for very different reasons. There is no way in the world the Russians every would have every been able to propel an offensive strategem without the destruction of the German armaments factories. Just to manage D-Day American engineers had to come up with new technology to be able to supply the military with the means to be able to pull it off. We destroyed the German war machine piece by piece strategically in every phase and then crushed them…the Russians were only able to make progress after the effects of the American design had damaged Germany. It’s true enough the Russians had more bodies to sacrfice and the Germans exhausted themselves on both armies, but to say the Russians “won” the war. That’s just patently stupid.

    As far as fat people it must be your neighborhood that you’re talking about…

    stick to football…

  555. Al Davis Says:

    It tastes like millions of dollars and a few wasted draft picks biotch!

  556. Jon Gruden Says:

    Alright, guys, MaddenRaider and his multiple names are out of here. See you tonight. Be good. Still got respect for the nation. Tell everyone at Ricky’s I said hello. Good luck, Raider Nation. Chucky, out.

  557. Silver and Black Attack Says:

    actually bo it’s just MR posting as you. he posts as everyone. he just posted as me too. but he didn’t answer the question. hows my ass taste MR

  558. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    550, well said. LMN is guilty of historical revisionism born out of latent Amero-envy. Pretty understandable for a man whose military service consisted of guarding the volatile Danish-Swedish border.

  559. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    TY S&BA, I knew it was MR… he’s not the longest turd in the toilet but he’s a troll nonetheless…

  560. RaiderDogg Says:

    BSJ -

    did you see the pool table I posted yesterday after you posted the monopoly game? It would be a perfect centerpiece to any Raider room. It’s only $4000.

  561. 4evaRaider Says:

    gotta go pick up old lady[shes 20] be back in hour

  562. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dogg, I saw it and it brought a new focus to my fantasy life. Someone here earlier recommended Barry Sims website and in his pix of Raider HQ they had the SAME POOL TABLE in the player lounge.

    I felt like Homer eyeing a box of doughnuts.

  563. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dogg,

    I would have to have 7 silver balls, 7 black balls, the Lombardi trophy on the 8 ball, and Elway’s grill on the cue ball…..WHAM!

  564. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 550 thankz EX i hate steelers so much i must have subconsciously blacked that out.God i hate the steelers.Whats youre take on those fatty syrups?I read when I get back I really need 2 pick up old lady

  565. RaiderDogg Says:

    BSJ -

    I like the way you think bro.

  566. Joe Says:

    Exlaraiderseasonticketholder: Not to quibble, but two things: As a rookie, Roethlisberger did not win the starting job until the fourth game, and then lost in AFC championship game. It was his second year that he won the Super Bowl.
    That is all.

  567. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    Sorry this turned into a bash LMN session…not my intention at all.

  568. Dave Mustaine Says:

    ex lax raider dork,…get a life,..your vomit your spewing about war sucks,..go to another blog you loser,…good name for you, exlaxraider,..you are like taking a crap,..keep that name, it fits you,,,ex-lax raider.

  569. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    La Milicia Negra,

    Don’t take me wrong, I enjoy those cute little Danish Hams in the small tins and I love your cheeses. lol

    Also the Americans thank you for Niels Bohr and his contributions to the Manhatten Project and the development of the A-Bomb.

    Lastly the contributions of Niels Bohrs father to soccer whose Bohrs shift is named after him. Bet you didn’t think and fat lazy American knew that! LOL

  570. James and Lars Says:

    Dave Mustaine: Here’s a Greyhound bus ticket; you’re kicked out of the band!

  571. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Joe,
    Thanks for the correction. I stand rightly corrected.

  572. Dave Mustaine Says:

    I think Lars and James should just come correct and tell us all they are a married couple,..hey it was cool of them to play the parking lot prior to title game with the titans,…we see stupid Hetfield at the west side club at alot of raider games,..dudes a tool,…him and lars the midget are clearly gay….and Hammets hair plugs are really lame looking,…that bass player had it right,..get out of the gay metal bands space.

  573. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Al Davis ran the Manhattan Project.

    Megadeath’s cover of Autumn Wind is weak.

    Just win baby.

  574. Dave Mustaine Says:

    I liked Metallicas “Kill am all”,..their best record,…been downhill ever since,..unless you dig corporate metal.,…that movie they made, some kind of monster,..um,..not a great idea,..a therapist in their sessions?…ok James,..but youre not a dork though…

  575. Dave Mustaine Says:

    Bo,….dang, I never heard it,…will seek it out….(megadeth, not megadeath).

  576. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I spell it Megadork

  577. Dave Mustaine Says:

    True story,..2001 season, or 2002,..unsure,..we opened with the chargers and won it at the very end,..low scoring game,…hetfield in the west side club,..i tried to talk to him,….he was being rude to everyone,..was standing up against a wall alone,…drinking coffee,…I spilled a sierra nevada on his boots by accident,…he was a jerk about it,…he was on his sober kick,..he should avoid sobriety,..we all should.

  578. Eyepatch Says:

    Gruden gets all the credit for blowing the big games when he coached the Raiders.

  579. Dave Mustaine Says:

    Ok Bo,..your band is probably more successful,..my bad.

  580. Dave Mustaine Says:

    I would take Gruden over Kiffin any day of the week.

  581. Eyepatch Says:

    No more hand gun bans under the table from Obama. The people of Illinois rejoice!

  582. Lame Metal Band Says:

    What should we call our band?

    How about “Lots of Death”?

    No that sounds weak. Wait a minute I think I’ve got it. Instead of “Lots of Death” lets call ourselves MEGADETH! Drop the A in the death to look cool and we are all set!

    Lamest band name ever!

  583. Steve the Troll Says:

    Waaatttuuppp Nation?

  584. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Did I claim to have aband or post as a successful bandleader?

    Sorry Dave, just got no respect for the music or most of the fans. But if it is YOUR band, I’ll respect your professional success.

  585. Steve the Troll Says:

    Is this Raider chat or metal chat?

  586. Kenny King Says:

    Kind of off-topic but Sapp gave an interview in Tampa and said that his experience was, “…darker than the black hole…”. He said, “…no one know who or what is…” calling the shots. That the sideline phone rings a lot.

    This is alarming and disappointing and unfortunate because it means Al Davis continues to be a “problem” in the organization. There is a reason why every effective organization has a clear chain of command and why the top dog should observe that chain of command. If that top guy micromanages to the bottom, the organization becomes ineffective and can fall apart.

    This coming season has many potential positives and Kiffin is a good young coach. I sincerely hope Davis keeps his fingers off Kiffin and let him do his job. This is a business after all and I pay good money to see a good product. If Davis forces Kiffin to leave yet again after this season so he can bring in a “yes”-man, I am done, done, done, done. Without coaching continuity, we can have the best players in the universe and the team will behave like a collection of individuals rather than a team.

    Getting rid of Gruden was foolish, hiring Turner and then Shell were giant mistakes. If Kiffin is forced out, then Davis is truly losing his ability to manage. He ought to retire and let someone else take over.

    This is sad. A good leader always pays attention to who will take over because nothing is certain in life. A good leader ensures the organization continues to thrive and that organization does not exist for one person. It seems Davis does not know this.

    Many posters here may flame me over this post but all that needs to be said. Even we all keep quiet, Davis will pass on one day and someone else will take over. What happens then?

    No more throwing hard-earned cash into the “black hole”, at least for me. THis is our last year.

  587. RaiderDogg Says:

    LMAO at post #582

    good sheet man

  588. Eyepatch Says:

    Patton did more to beat the Germans than all the Russian military leaders did.

  589. RaiderDogg Says:

    Kenny, do you have a link? I would like to read that article…

  590. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Eyepatch, I’m an IL voter and would prefer if none of my neighbors had guns – legal or not.

    The NRA propaganda about more guns equaling less crime is a ludicrous lie. A legal handgun in one’s home is MUCH more likely to shoot its owner/family than any criminal.

    Charlton Heston, how’s Satan’s azz taste?

  591. Patton Oswalt Says:

    That’s right I did. Thanks eyepatch.

  592. Eyepatch Says:

    Sapp is just mad at Kiffin for playing him into retirement and Al has his rights if he decides to come back.

  593. RaiderDogg Says:

    What I want to know is who had the honor of prying that rifle out of Charleton Heston’s cold dead hands.

  594. Eyepatch Says:

    Yeah right, throw a roll of toilet paper at the intruder in your daughters bedroom I suppose.

  595. Eyepatch Says:

    Bo that the dumbest thing I have ever read in a blog btw.

  596. Raiderbaitor Says:

    Since theres been way too much political discussion lately and not much Raiders news to talk about (unless we all want to endlessy analyze the Sam Keller signing)….how about something that is at least timely….the NBA draft.

  597. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Raider Dog,
    Go to ProFootballtalk.com. Gives Dungy credit for the SB win. said the cake just need the icing when Gruden got there.

  598. Dakota Says:

    Did someone say guns???

  599. Dakota Says:

    I have a concealed weapons permit for my Springfield .45 XD subcompact…my wife has a concealed weapons permit for her Smith and Wesson .38. My .45 is loaded with 230 grain Federal Hydrashok rounds, my wife’s is loaded with 110 grain Federal Hydrashok rounds…so we can shoot you and not kill the person behind you…

    Safety first!

  600. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.

  601. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dakota,
    You’re very considerate. Reduces splatter too! lol

  602. KoolKell Says:

    Funny how someone in Sioux Falls South Dakota feels the need to carry concealed weapons. Everybody is terrified. But America is #1, right?

  603. Dakota Says:

    Exla,

    Thanks, I’d like to think so.

    Hey did you see the Nets traded Richard Jefferson to the Bucks for Yi and some junk??? I was hoping that if we were going to get rid of Lamar, we might have gotten RJ back…oh well. I guess we will have to see if Lamar grow a pair in the offseason.

  604. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dakota,
    I hope LMN did not take it personal. I just get tired of anti-american cr*p.

  605. 4evaRaider Says:

    what up NATION???????

  606. Dakota Says:

    KK,

    My job necessitates carrying a firearm, and it necessitates my wife carrying one too, and a gun for home defense…I would not expect a real estate agent to understand.

  607. 4evaRaider Says:

    ok i be good mr.moderator

  608. Quagmire'd Says:

    hello?

  609. 4evaRaider Says:

    Sapp said there was only 5other players to do what he did.7 straight pro-bowls,win super-bowls,so he should be 1st ballot hof,what say you NATION????????????

  610. Dakota Says:

    Anyone else having problems posting on this site right now???

  611. Dakota Says:

    WTF????

  612. Dakota Says:

    Whew, I thought I finally got tossed…

  613. Quagmire'd Says:

    yes sir

  614. 4evaRaider Says:

    I asked the same question Dakota but it never got posted

  615. 4evaRaider Says:

    ok thats the first 1 that got through with no problem!!!!!!!

  616. Steve the Troll Says:

    Dakota,..figures,…only men who cant take care of themselves need to carry a concealed gun…why that pig of a wife of yours carries one is surprising,..shes too fat and ugly to be a rape victim candidate. Go Raiders. :)

  617. Oakglenn Says:

    The site works fine. You just can’t post a bunch of lame content, that’s all.

  618. KoolKell Says:

    I can’t get on this blog rigbt now.

    Dakota

    You & the Mrs the Law in Sioux Falls or is it that dangerous a City?

  619. Oakglenn Says:

    Steve the troll, er, MR, er Maddenloser, er BeBartolo Raider, how does my ass taste??

  620. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dakota says
    June 26th, 2008 at 11:26 am
    20 minutes of cardio 3 times a week + weight lifting 4 times a week…then you can pretty much eat the foods you want (in moderation) and still be in decent shape.

    yeah but what about beer u have to multiply that by @ least 10……….

    LMN

    sucks every 1 is harshing on ya but we see things diffrent here in the good ol USA
    no worries tho brethrean ur still our BRO 1 NATION.. RAIDER NATION… ur good people IMO every 1 has an opnion even MR thats what makes our country GREAT ya dig????????

  621. 4evaRaider Says:

    hey that was scarey.We all need 2 have another place 2 congragreat if we get bounced from here.anyone know where??????????????????????????

  622. KoolKell Says:

    Everyone carrying guns in this, the most violent society in the West? Wyat Earp was right, check your guns or get out of town

  623. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 620 408Raider,couldnt have said it better myself,you da man

  624. Steve the Troll Says:

    How does your …what?..hey Dakota,..that Shaq line was pretty funny coming from him, come up with your own material,..you dont need to copy what others say to be funny,..every day Dakota, you prove what a loser you are.

  625. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
    Eyepatch, I’m an IL voter and would prefer if none of my neighbors had guns – legal or not.

    The NRA propaganda about more guns equaling less crime is a ludicrous lie. A legal handgun in one’s home is MUCH more likely to shoot its owner/family than any crimin

    Bo: I agree that you are more likely to shoot its owner. That’s why you take it out of the house on weekends. Then you throw the dirt (criminals) into the CT or Mississippi river when your done. DId you ever notice how many wash up on to the banks during the spring? How many swimming accidents are there in Feb and Mar??? dumb asses!

  626. 408RAIDER Says:

    DeepBall Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 11:42 am

    #554

    ya dig…. spot on as the as the euros would say…… now can we all get back 2 being 1 NATION

  627. 909raiderlifer Says:

    The system here has been goofy, for a good 2 hrs.

    Thought, it was my old piece of crap computer or my IP.

    had a system down/crashed alert come up once, here earlier.

    Someone is playing around w/ the buttons, out in the Bay.

  628. Dakota Says:

    KK,

    If you can guarantee me that not one of the many people I deal with in my line of work will ever posses a gun, then I will give up mine. Until then…I gotta carry.

  629. Dakota Says:

    Steve the Troll Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
    How does your …what?..hey Dakota,..that Shaq line was pretty funny coming from him, come up with your own material,..you dont need to copy what others say to be funny,..every day Dakota, you prove what a loser you are.
    _______________________________________________________

    When did I use Shaq’s line???

    You are a moron.

  630. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    I like stl but i hate the fact i keep meeting KC fans. it’s disgusting!

  631. vegas raider Says:

    Some lady just came into my office and said she is collecting business cards for a kid with leukamia to set a guiness world record for most business cards collected. I didn’t believe her and didn’t give her one, thought it was a scam. Am I going to hell?

  632. Dakota Says:

    Vegas,

    You should have waterboarded her to get the truth…

  633. Holy Crap Says:

    Dakota is a DEA agent.

  634. Dakota Says:

    New thread…

  635. Killer #99 Says:

    STFU Dakota

  636. vegas raider Says:

    She was kind of cute, I think I was probably the only person who didn’t give her one. Hey the market is off 350+ points today, a little grumpy

  637. Dakota Says:

    Nice try Troll, but I always say:

    New post! Not new thread…

  638. Dakota Says:

    made you look

  639. Killer #99 Says:

    Biiiioooottttcccchhhh!

    You probably like Jason Giambi’s mustache a little too much. Baaazziiiinnnggg!

  640. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dakota,
    Bounty Hunter?

  641. 4evaRaider Says:

    youre allready in hell youre in vegas ask donkeypartyboy walker

  642. Dakota Says:

    Exla…sorry, not a bounty hunter.

    Do you think the Lakers should drop Odom???? I heard that the Lakers were interested in Mike Miller, but Memphis doesn’t want the bad publicity of dumping another one of its players for salary cap purposes to the Lakers…

  643. Steve the Troll Says:

    Clearly Dakota, you and Oakglenn are the same loser,…its no surprise…if people in here cant spot that then they arent paying attention…you are one and the same,..just one loser. Exlaxraider is the room homo. I love that name though,,, EX-LAX RAIDER ,..the best name in here…EXLAXRAIDER,…you really do resemble a pile of crap,…EXLAXRAIDER. I love it.

  644. Steve the Troll Says:

    Dakota,..please tells us what you do for a living,..we cant take the suspense!!!!…lol,..losers. lol. :)

  645. KoolKell Says:

    If you want a gun to protect your home, fine, buy a shotgun. Too many idiot waannabes carrying concealed pistols.

  646. Steve the Troll Says:

    isnt the Dakotas the ugly states they put people who cant make it in a real state?…stay out there with a bunch of drunken injuns Dakota,…Iv been through it,…one ugly place, thats why your wife fits in there. lol,….hahahahah….lol :)

  647. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I think the Lakers should keep Odom.
    C-Bynum
    PF-Gasol
    SF-Kobe
    G-Odom
    G-Fisher
    Most Disappointing Player-Walton(he Suuucckked!)

  648. Steve the Troll Says:

    Koolkell,..you tell em boy,..you on the other hand carry a concealed dildo,..hey Im not judging boy. lol…hahahahaha…lol,…hahahahahaha :)

  649. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Steve the Troll
    How does everyones a$$hole on this blog taste?

  650. Steve the Troll Says:

    attaboy EXLAX RAIDER,…lets talk more Laker ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!…lol…hahaha…lol…go celtics!!!!!!!! hahahahaha!!!… EX LAX RAIDER!!! :)

  651. Steve the Troll Says:

    You would know EX LAX RAIDER!!!!….hahahahahaha…lol….hahahahaha go celtics!!!! EX LAX RAIDER!!!!!…:)

  652. KoolKell Says:

    Walker police report today;http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/16718770/detail.html#-

  653. KoolKell Says:

    Troll,

    You don’t think much of yourself, do you?

  654. Steve the Troll Says:

    maybe the funniest disclosure ever in this blog,…dakota the wimp cant walk down the street without his 6-shooter,..and his butt-ugly wife also carrying one,…as if,..lol,..hahahahaha…lol…hey dakota, when your pig of a wife farts in bed do you threaten to shoot her?…lol…hahahahahaha…lmao…hahahah :)

  655. Steve the Troll Says:

    i think less of you koolkell,..lol,…hahahahaha,..koolkell you queer,…lol,..hahahahahaha :)

  656. vegas raider Says:

    Wow, he was at Drai’s at 5:30 am. Normally about half the crowd there at that time is on ectsasy and rubbing each other.

  657. KoolKell Says:

    Walker also has a fractured jaw. The full police report is online.

  658. vegas raider Says:

    Only homo’s use smiley faces

  659. El Dirty Says:

    So whats the new drama today?

  660. vegas raider Says:

    On top of things Kool, good work

  661. Shark Catcher Says:

    SLOW NEWS DAY HUH

  662. Shark Catcher Says:

    i WAS HOPING that the two new stand ins would have something refreshing to post till jerry gets back, guess not

  663. Shark Catcher Says:

    instead I have to deal with dakota who i thought was a girl…and troll who thinks hes the king of the world…

  664. Shark Catcher Says:

    the only thing the lakers need is andrew bynum to be healthy after that, done deal…this might sign crazy, but dont be surprised if we resign kwame brown to the veteran exception minimum..shil has a soft spot for him good post defender and cant get O boards…when It happens just remember weho called it

  665. KoolKell Says:

    Vegas, did you read that police report?

  666. Dakota Says:

    I do not find anything in that police report that calls for all the hate Walker received on this site in the hours after the attack. Yes, he showed poor judgment by flashing too much bling and getting out of his friend’s vehicle while being very intoxicated, but that is not a crime.

    Repent Raider Nation!

  667. KoolKell Says:

    Yeah, it looks like the robbery part is legit.
    What lured him to get into a car with strangers, and leave his date hangin?

  668. 4evaRaider Says:

    now Ive heard everything

  669. KoolKell Says:

    Why was he fightin with his friend Ryan Lewis, probably trying to get him to call it a night.

  670. 4evaRaider Says:

    he got IN the car not out of it

  671. Dakota Says:

    KK,

    Sometimes people that drunk can be convinced anything is a good idea…

  672. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”NFL Network’s Adam Schefter mentions New Orleans, Detroit, and Chicago as possible landing spots for LaMont Jordan. The Bears and Lions are obvious potential suitors, but the Saints may be most needy with Deuce McAllister’s health in serious doubt. Jordan isn’t a power back like Deuce, persay, but would add good competition for Pierre Thomas. He’s also a good fit in a pass-first offense like Sean Payton’s. Jun. 26 – 7:01 p.m. ET”—

  673. vegas raider Says:

    Just read it Kool, still curious how two unknown, kind of shifty looking guys were all of a sudden able to hang out with a football player. Drai’s can be a dicey place, and he already seemed like he had girls. Should have never left the Hard Rock, which provided him security and probably would have given him a room if he asked.

  674. KoolKell Says:

    Broken Jaw, Fractured Eye socket, he won’t be ready at the start of camp.

  675. Dakota Says:

    4eva,

    First he got out of the car with his friend in it….later he got into the perp’s car…

  676. 4evaRaider Says:

    Imay not have been here but posr #666 does NOT sound like the Dakota I know

  677. vegas raider Says:

    Dakota, most of the hate was that this is the first impression we all have of Jovan.

  678. 4evaRaider Says:

    been here that long

  679. KoolKell Says:

    Naive country boy? No street sense at all? Spraying champagne, AGAIN. Dude WTF?

  680. vegas raider Says:

    First impression as a Raider that is. Like how the cops had to go meet people at Jet nightclub to show them a lineup. Only in Vegas

  681. vegas raider Says:

    Gotta run fellas, pick it up in an hour or so

  682. 4evaRaider Says:

    hey La Millicia,how goes it in soccer world???

  683. Dakota Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    Imay not have been here but posr #666 does NOT sound like the Dakota I know
    _____________________________________________________

    What? Why? Was I not judgmental enough in that post? Lol.

  684. frozen Says:

    He probably thought he was going somewhere to buy coke. I hate to say it, but that’s what it looks like to me.

  685. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4evaRAIDER…

    great! Spain won… so the final will be between Germany and Spain… its going to be fantastic game =)

  686. 4evaRaider Says:

    right on brother im glad you got 2 see a good game and the team you were rooting 4 won .Now the tough question; who do you take Spain or Germany???????

  687. KoolKell Says:

    Me too Frozen

  688. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I’ll take Spain, I hate the Germans more than you fat americans muahhahahahahaha!

    Take that soft in the middle Dakota.

  689. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4evaRAIDER..

    SPAIN!! gotta be spain…. but of course teams like Germany and Italy are always lucky, so it might end up being the germans as winners, but I hope for Spain…but its a great setup..

  690. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I’ll go again guys… theres a troll around who doesn’t want me here…. post 688 wasn’t me…

  691. KoolKell Says:

    I didn’t think that was you LMN.

    Only idiot troll says “You moron haha haha ha ha haha.

    No grownup talks like that.

  692. Hate Has No Place In Here Says:

    Thats right run LMN, just like all throughout history. Talk all of the mess that you want but the USA always pulls you Euro’s out of trouble when you can’t run anymore.

    you’re welcome.

  693. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Ha! its Dakota!

  694. Alameda Insidher Says:

    Boldin coming to the Raiders…more from the island later folks. back to norco’s and vino…

  695. KoolKell Says:

    Troll,

    What an embarrassment you are to the USA. You certainly embody the stereotype.

  696. Pullin Chicks Cuz I'm A Pimp and not Oakglenn Biotch! Says:

    ha you people are all a bunch of suckers, especially you LMN

  697. Dakota Says:

    LMN, I only poster under my handle…if I have something to say to you, I say it myself, for everyone to see…don’t accuse me of trolling.

  698. KoolKell Says:

    Let’s get it goin guys

    U S A
    U S A
    U S A
    U S A
    U S A

    I love that chant

    U S A
    U S A
    U S A!

  699. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dakota I just NEVER heard you stick up 4 a donkey.He aint did squat 4 THE NATION yet

  700. Dakota Says:

    4eva,

    He is a Raider…baggage and all.

  701. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMN; we ALL knew post #688 wasnt you.Whatever you are youre NOT disrespectfull

  702. Dakota Says:

    He’s not????

    _______________________________________________________

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 8:43 am
    nahh

    i don’t think, I KNOW, most american are lazy fatasses…

  703. 4evaRaider Says:

    Post 700; yessir you are correct,and I know he is a great athlete,but 2 bring disgrace knowing the very 1st game you are ever going 2 represent THE NATION is going 2 be against the team that gave up on you,and then get embrioled in something that might give THE NATION a black eye,2 me that is total disrespect.Ufck the money there is something wayyyyyy more important here;THE NATION.Maybe in his defence,he has NEVER seen this kind of LOVE before;The way we LOVE THE NATION.Maybe when he scores his 1st six and feels the PRIDE in every fiber he will understand.I HOPE SO

  704. 4evaRaider Says:

    And also Dakota I only know here on this blog but reading your comments i have the highest respect 4 you.HONESTLY I MEAN THAT.But [i know he has thick skin]I think you are taking LMN statment A LITTLE OUT OF CONTEXT PEACE BRO

  705. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    693 wasn’t me either….

    that remark was a response to you, it was banter! you said: “I may think most Europeans are quivering piles of shiit and you may think most Americans are lazy fatazzes, but at least we still both want the Raiders to rule.”

    and that was just my comeback… what can i say…

  706. La Milicia Negra Says:

    but I do think fatties are lazy.. I stand by that =)

  707. 4evaRaider Says:

    they just sold Doc Rivers shirt he wore in game 7 for $55,000

  708. 4evaRaider Says:

    Its all relative; your fat because your lazy and your lazy because your fat

  709. 4evaRaider Says:

    where everyone?????????????????????????????????????????

  710. KoolKell Says:

    Nobody wants to be bothered with an idiot troll.

  711. El Dirty Says:

    What is with Insider with the whole Boldin thing he’s been saying it since Feb?

  712. El Dirty Says:

    I only care because I want it to happen!

  713. KoolKell Says:

    Boldin who?

  714. El Dirty Says:

    Anquon Boldin WR for AZ

  715. 4evaRaider Says:

    Anquain Bolden;tore it up at Florida State,tore it up at Phonix,Iwould love 4 him 2 come 2 Raiders

  716. KoolKell Says:

    Ok, yeah, he’s been productive every year of his career, but is he a No1 speed receiver?

    He’s had 2 seasons of over 100 catches. Better than Javon.

  717. El Dirty Says:

    He Would be an absolute monster in Oakland. I thought he was a real gamer ever since I saw him his rookie year.

  718. 4evaRaider Says:

    Boldin plays his heart out 4 whatever team he is on,win or lose;A perfect match 4 THE NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!

  719. La Milicia Negra Says:

    guys…

    I think it was a joke to make the original “insider” look stupid…

    btw his nick was insidHer..

  720. KoolKell Says:

    He was drafted in the 2nd round because of his relatively slow combine speed[1]: a 4.71 40 yard dash.
    —————————-
    I think we have enough of those guys, we now need a speedy #1 guy. I don’t know if Walkers’s going to be that guy now.

  721. El Dirty Says:

    Clear number 1 in my book

  722. Jesus Saves Says:

    For all of you non believers, I will pray for your souls. I do not want you all to die in eternal Hellfire.

  723. Time is Right for Winning Says:

    There goes that “monster” word again.

  724. KoolKell Says:

    Out

  725. La Milicia Negra Says:

    testing!?

  726. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I will never believe that Boldin will become a raider, and that the socalled Insider says so make my case stronger =)

  727. 4evaRaider Says:

    Just drank my last Fosters it 10:00,time 4 me 2 call it a night NATION C-YA in AM THANK YOU

  728. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Night Bro’

  729. Dakota Says:

    LMN, as I said in post 567…I didn’t mean for this to turn into a bash LMN session. You manned up and stuck to your guns (even if you are dead wrong, lol)…that is respectable.

    I just want to clear one thing up; you made the fatazz Americans statement prior to my statement about Europe@ns being quivering piles of shiit. You first called Americans fatazzes in post 428 or so…my comment was made in comment 450 or so…so please stop using that as an excuse. Your true feelings came out…just live up to it.

    I am done with it unless you come asking for more.

  730. 4evaRaider Says:

    OK 1 more!!! Post 728 LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  731. Dakota Says:

    shiit, lightning…I better turn off my laptop…later.

  732. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    yeah thats true… post 428 was a good one =)

  733. immodest in modesto Says:

    LMN: While you are correct that the Russians spent much more blood than the US in WWII, to those Americans who died, their blood was not “paltry”. And you are getting this from one who is deeply ashamed of Bush, and who agrees with you that many Americans are “fat asses”!

  734. saintkaufman Says:

    Dang LMN, what happened? I think you kind of stepped in it if you know what I mean.

    One thing to know, American men are zealous about our military history. We know the ins and outs of every war, battle and conflict. We know all of the principles, including the enemy, the dates, places, effects and most of all the armament. We have 24hour channels that are dedicated to the history of war and all of their weapons, both sides. I’m not sure if this is a global phenomenon, but it is something that most here share.

    You’ve basically started questioning Catholicism to a bunch of guys from The Vatican!! :)

  735. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Immodesto…

    no they were not paltry, not at all, they were true heroes, and I respect them and the women left behind very much… its more their grandsons and daughters I have my doubts about =)

    btw.. just read the funniest thing… a guy tried to rob a star with a palmtree =) LOL

  736. SpreadtheHate Says:

    LMN…

    You are a great guy.

    Thanks for spreading the truth.

    Fat people are lazy. So are black people, white people from the South, Mexicans, and Jws.

    Hitler was right. Rid the world of all these folks and everyone else will be better off.

    Stop by the office and pick up your Nazi decoder ring tomorrow.

  737. La Milicia Negra Says:

    SaintKaufmann…

    we have the same channels here, and some tell the story as how americans believe it is, and others show it how the rest see it =)

    every home here has satelite tv… but I don’t go for tv shows for knowledge thats for sure =)

  738. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    You could not have known this, but my grandfather and one of his brothers were both in the US Navy and were at Pearl Harbor when the Japanese attacked. They both survived and served in the Pacific for nearly 4 years…another of his brothers served in the army and was killed in France sometime in 1944….hence my strong feelings on the subject.

  739. La Milicia Negra Says:

    sph

    woaw… thats a bit far fetch… I don’t share those views

  740. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    I never said I didn’t respect them, just said they all showed up for the last 2 min of the game, but important 2 min you might ad..

  741. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”According to the Las Vegas Police Department’s arrest report, Javon Walker suffered a broken jaw in addition to a fractured orbital bone and a concussion when he was beaten and robbed on June 16. If Walker is unable to consume solid foods, it’s possible he’ll lose some weight. Walker showed up to minicamps in less than ideal shape, so that might not be the worst thing. But at this point there’s no way of telling if he’ll be ready for training camp. Consider him out indefinitely and a flier pick at best in fantasy drafts until we hear Walker has resumed practicing. Jun. 26 – 10:28 p.m. ET”—

  742. History Lesson Says:

    Most wars are won by the side that has the best supply chain. In the case of WWII, the ability of the US to provide materials, manufacturing capability and a sizable army ultimaely sealed the fate of the Axis powers.

    It is true that Hitler’s armies were first smashed by Russian armies, and the Russians bore the highest number of casualties of ALL nations of the war, but they could not have withstood the German army without US material and manufacturing capability. The T-34 and other equipment was manufactured literally at the front lines, but they needed critical war material to produce them… the is where the US came in to play. If D-Day would not have taken place, I believe that the Russian army would have been ultimately victorious without the US or Britain supplying combat troops in Europe. Of course the threat of D-Day kept German armies tied down in France that could have been redirected to the East, but overall by 1945 the Russians and the US had the best armies in the European theater. which was better? we will never know, fortunately for the world those two armies never faced each other in direct combat.

    The United Kingdom was not a match for Germany for in either size of the army, manufacturing capability, or in the leadership of the military. Although Churchill was the best possible person to be in a leadership position for England, the combat generals were not up to par (example: Montgomery was no match for Rommel in the Deserts of N. Africa and could only find victory after Germany was forced to reroute supplies and replacements to the “Eastern Front” to deal with the Russians leaving “Monty” with a 20:1 tank advantage and he still almost didn’t win in Egypt, and we don’t even need to speak of other brilliant moves like “Operation Market Garden”).

    The US entered the war and with the aid of SONAR, defeated the U-boats with advances in technology that allowed a build up of forces prior to D-Day. A huge army, with lots of easily repaired tanks and other vehicles, and an unstoppable supply chain is what made the final difference in the war in Europe.

    In the Pacific, the US was simply lucky at first, the battle of Midway should have been won by the Japanese. Had that battle turned against the US, the Japanese would have had posession of Hawaii, and Austrailia would have been isolated and likely captured. The US would have needed time to rebuild its fleet and recapture Hawaii, and the war could have easily been extended through 1947 or even into 1950. As it turned out, once the Japanese fleets were turned back in 1942, the the United States and Austrialian forces overpowered the Japanese with superior technology, naval and ground forces… and an unstoppable supply chain.

    In summary, you can have the biggest and best trained army, but if you cannot: feed them, provide arms and ammunition, and provide rapid access to medical facilities. You are not going to win a conventional war of any duration.

  743. immodest in modesto Says:

    LMN: I am usually in agreement with you, but your percentages in post 428, while accurate, don’t tell the whole story. My dad joined up in 1942 and was with “Operation Torch” into N. Africa that year. He fought “up the boot” in Italy until the Invasion of S. France in 1944. Then he proceeded into Germany. While you can argue that alot of US strategy was, at the time, directed towards tying up Nazi divisions to lighten the load on the Russians, he still did what he did for the intended purposes, and I don’t think the contribution of like-minded Americans should be considered a “last Minute” effort, whatever the intentions of Washington. I just ask you: consider the efforts of the men who DID contribute from the US. And while the Marshall Plan was a selfish plan, in a way, (it was designed to create European markets to fuel the US prosperity of the 1950’s), it was a heck of an idea anyway, wasn’t it?

  744. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    furthermore… at that time you had been talking smack about europeans for two days, so you invited me on the war path =)

  745. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Immodesto…

    the Masrshall plan was great, never said it wasn’t – I said the lease lend program was about profit, and stand by that

  746. saintkaufman Says:

    A broken Jaw?? If this is true they will just red shirt during camp right?

    LMN, my point is that American’s are very “knowledgeable” about our military history because of our high INTEREST in it. I can read different things about our own Civil War dependent on where I am in the US as well.

    Now I’m debating this!! You see, that’s how we are!

  747. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    You still don’t get it do you? Last two minutes of the game??? Wow. Let’s do the math: Sept 1, 1939, Germany invades Poland…March 11, 1941, the US begins the lend-lease program…Dec 7, 1941 Pearl Harbor, US enters war…war in Europe ends on May 8, 1945…Japan surrenders on August 14, 1945.

    WWII lasted nearly 72 months…the US was involved for 53 months…

    Whatever…go ahead and keep lying to yourself.

  748. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
    Immodesto…

    the Masrshall plan was great, never said it wasn’t – I said the lease lend program was about profit, and stand by that
    _______________________________________________________

    Back up your statement with some facts…I provided plenty of facts…the US government, otherwise known as American taxpayers, took huge losses…and if we had not provided the materials needed by England and Russia, again, you would be speaking German right now.

  749. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Monty might not be considered a big character of the war, but after the war he is the sole reason why DK wasn’t under sovjet rule… US and USSR had agreed upon that DK would become under their jurisdiction, But thank God, Monty convinced Churchill to argue the case for the americans that we should get under English jurisdiction…

    That would be strategical important during the cold war because we control access to the Eastern See, and by that most of the sovjet northern fleet… after the cold war we learned DK would be USSR’s first nuclear target :/

    But being under English Jurisdiction meant we became a part of the free world, got a part in the marshall plan and became a full blown member of NATO, was under Amercian protection during the cold war, and could develop a prosperous life as a member of the EU…

  750. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    yup, get your point, and i’ve replied it with “thank you for the hard ware”

  751. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota

    the lend lease program, meant that we were enslaved to use amercan products for several years, forced to trade with american companies, no real free market. Which meant those companies knew they could turn up the price… we got out of those agreements about 1972… just in time for the down turn, the first oil crisis… had we been forced to trade with american companies during the oil crisis, we would have been bankrupt in the 80’s…

    Not that it wasn’t hard enough…

    you maybe didn’t get them back in direct way, but Europe sure payed for the lend lease program…

  752. immodest in modesto Says:

    LMN: Was lend-lease about profit? YES. Little this country does is not bound up in profit. But at least opposing the Nazis is something for us sons of US fighters to be proud of. And I must say, of all the posters in this blog, your posts are among the few I consistently agree with. So, post on, my friend, post on!

  753. La Milicia Negra Says:

    “But at least opposing the Nazis is something for us sons of US fighters to be proud of.”

    Damn right…

    My grand father was nothing but a school teacher, but he hit freedom fighters, and stole German equipment..

    of course thats nothing compared to others, in fact its pitiful. But i’m still proud of it…

    He was On G3stapo’s list because prior to the war he had spoken publicly that what went on below the boarder, was Hell on earth… He lived 10 miles form the german boarder so he knew it was bad in 37…

    He died when I was 6 or something, but I’ve read his journal… quite exciting, but of course pretty meaningless, when you look at he big picture =)

  754. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Whoops that came out wrong… let me correct =)

    My grand father was nothing but a school teacher, but he hid freedom fighters, and stole German equipment to the Freedom fighters…

  755. East Bay Ray! Says:

    “if we had not provided the materials needed by England and Russia, again, you would be speaking German right now.”

    Nuff said Dakota

    Now please just STFU LMN, once and for all.

  756. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Hey…
    my goood friend EBR…

    yup. and I’ve said thanks for the hard ware =)

  757. Red Blooded American Says:

    LMN has been duped by the man. Go away stinking Euro. We saved your a$$es you ungratefule puke!

  758. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Well Guys…

    I guess that was my cue to go =)

    see ya all =)

  759. East Bay Ray! Says:

    LMN -

    Thanks for nothing in return. Make sure you kiss my a$$ on your way out of the blog…

  760. East Bay Ray! Says:

    at the least the man can take a hint. I think I will go on a Danish blog and talk mad sh*t about how stupid they all are. You aren’t very smart are you LMN?

  761. immodest in modesto Says:

    LMN: Yes, be proud of your grandfather! I am a little too. My grandfather was Danish, and no country or group has a monopoly on heroism during this dark time.

  762. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    You should be very proud of your Grandfather and his actions. Everyone that contributed should be proud…that is our point; quit minimizing the US’s contribution to WWII…you are spitting in our face, and frankly, many of us over here are tired of it.

    At the time of the lend-lease you gladly took our supplies, materials, and money…which Europe would not have survived without, and now, 60 years later here you are minimizing it and crying about having to pay some of it back and calling it profiteering. Can’t you see why some of us have a problem with that? Don’t you see what an insult that is?

  763. saintkaufman Says:

    Have you guys read the police report for the Walker robbery. That’s messed up. He was with his girl and got duped into getting in their car in front of the Bellagio. Idiot sat in the front seat and got choke held from behind while the other guy beat the crap out of him!! They had been following him for a couple of hours. Those mothers are going down hard!!!

  764. immodest in modesto Says:

    East Bay Ray: You’re a fool. Thank heavens your mentality doesn’t reflect that of the RAIDER NATION!

  765. East Bay Ray! Says:

    Now I know why it smells like sh*t in Modesto. You’re wallowing in it.

    Thank goodness most Raider fans don’t reek like you.

  766. immodest in modesto Says:

    Dakota: Danmark didn’t have the opportunity of availing themselves of lend-lease. They had already been overrun per the Nazis…

  767. North Raider Says:

    http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

  768. immodest in modesto Says:

    EBR: I will not defend myself with you, just put you on the MaddenRaider list.

  769. East Bay Ray! Says:

    I’m crushed, really. A sh*tty smelling idiot just chose to ignore me, what will I ever do?

    I just put you on the B*tches That Can Fukk Themselves List.

  770. McCain's Best Fundraiser Says:

    John, I think they are insulting each other again. John? John!

  771. Kobe Bryant Says:

    Hey, East Bay Ray, how does my ass taste??

  772. East Bay Ray! Says:

    I imagine it taste like Modesto, just a guess.

  773. Pullin Chicks Cuz I'm A Pimp and not Oakglenn Biotch! Says:

    oohhh yeeeaaahhhh!

  774. Dakota Says:

    Saint,

    That report cleared some things up, like the fact that he was stalked and victimized, and that the champagne spraying had nothing to do with it, and that he never claimed to have been abducted from his room…but I would love to know what those guys said to him to induce him into their vehicle…

    if he was drunk enough it could have been something as simple as them telling him they knew of a great party…or was he looking to score some drugs??? Probably not looking for a street beaver because he had a woman with him…unless she was a dog…

    We may never know…

  775. Poopy Diaper Says:

    Did you guys watch the NBA draft?

  776. Poopy Diaper Says:

    Dakota, its none of your business what heppened with Javon Walker in Las Vegas. Worry about your own issues. Mind your own business.

  777. Dakota Says:

    LMN…I’ll admit that the US had little to do with Napoleon’s defeat.

  778. Poopy Diaper Says:

    Dakota, why is it that you feel the need to obsess over other peoples problems? What do you get out of worrying and blogging about Walkers problem he had in Las Vegas? Is your life so empty and meaningless that you have to spend endless hours in a blog posting about a football player that doesnt even know you exist? Get a life of your own Dakota.

  779. Dakota Says:

    I guess it is just you and me poopy…what would you like to talk about?

  780. Modesto Says:

    Isn’t Molesto in the East Side of the Bay Ray?

  781. Dakota Says:

    Come on poopy, you can do better than that…

  782. Kirk Says:

    The Russians won the war in Europe and the US won the war in the Pacific.

  783. Poopy Diaper Says:

    Dakota, its truly sad that you have nobody in the real world that will spend enough time with you to tell of your glorious war knowledge. By the way, the term, “Real world”, means any form of life not in a blog, as far as youre concerned anyway. Why dont you and your wife sit around and talk about how important you both are due to having gun permits. Dakota you get worse every day.

  784. Dakota Says:

    You are getting better poopy…but not quite there yet…keep trying.

  785. Poopy Diaper Says:

    Dakota, you see, this is my point. You ask me what do I want to talk about? Dakota, this isnt talking. You have lost what was once reality in cyberspace. You consider posting in a blog, and someone responding, as talking. Dakota, my advice to you is stop living your life on the internet.

  786. Poopy Diaper Says:

    Your brilliant responses Dakota only proves you agree with me, but will never admit it, not here, not in your real world.

  787. Dakota Says:

    Come on poopy, it is just you and me here right now. Open up and I will try and help you with your problems…why do you spend all of your time trying to insult people?

  788. Immodest in Modesto Says:

    Stkaufman: are Americans really so knowledgeable about military history? I once asked a group of 12-14 year- olds some questions about WWII for a class at university. None knew who fought in the war, none could tell me who won. Maybe our generation is the last to take an interest, and now all are interested in pop culture…

  789. Poopy Diaper Says:

    Goodnight Dakota, I will pop in here again in a couple days. You will be here. We can continue this then. Sorry to have to lay all this reality on you but you really needed some truth. Goodnight.

  790. Kirk Says:

    Immodest, Bush’s press secretary didn’t even know about the Cuban Missle Crisis.

    Our country is doomed.

  791. Dakota Says:

    Don’t run away poopy…maybe we can solve some of your issues!

  792. Most of Us Here Says:

    Jump poopy jump

  793. Immodest in Modesto Says:

    Indeed, Kirk…

  794. Dakota Says:

    Big NBA trade…details coming up on espn news…hmmm, Lamar O for Mike Miller???

  795. Immodest in Modesto Says:

    Kirk: Indeed, unless we can find a way of making history palatable to the masses again. Raider history would be a start. Any ideas?

  796. Dakota Says:

    Immodest…sadly my 13 year old son showed no interest in WWII history…until I bought him a video game…Call to Duty…now he wants to know everything about WWII…whatever it takes I guess.

  797. Dakota Says:

    hmmm, Mike Miller and Kevin Love to the t-wolves for Mayo and junk…

    Well, at least Mike Miller is closer to home…Mitchell, SD.

  798. Dakota Says:

    I hope we can stick to football talk tomorrow. If you guys hadn’t noticed, this is a Raiders’ blog, not an NBA blog, political blog or WWII history blog. Stick to the subject or leave!!!!!

  799. The Real World Says:

    Jump MR, er, Poopy, er, Steve the Troll, er, whatever…just jump, jump, jump….

  800. Immodest in Modesto Says:

    Dakota: Really, nothing would make me happier…

  801. Dakota Says:

    anyone ready any good books lately?

  802. Dakota Says:

    magazines?

  803. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota -

    I am very good friends with the producers that make the game Call of Duty. Not to give too much away about what I do for a living, I learned that from you, I used to live in LA and I worked for a little company called Activision. I was in on COD from day one and one of my best friends is still a lead producer of that franchise.

    It is an intense game and the new one is incredible from what I’ve seen. You will be glad to know that the folks over at Activision pride themselves on historical accuracy and realism so your son won’t be misinformed for the most part.

    Pretty violent game for a youngen, I imagine he is 14? I’ve got a ways to go with my boy yet, he is only 2. By the time he is 14 video games will be holograms in my living room and I will walk in and get shot by Master Chief.

  804. Dakota Says:

    I see Obama wants us to pay off Hillary’s debt…wouldn’t want her to lose her lifestyle would we???

    This won’t be the last time Obama asks for our money.

  805. Dakota Says:

    Dogg,

    He just turned 14 in May…I bought him the game last year and it was rated teen…whatever that means.

    Tell your friends that it is a great game; it actually gets your blood pumping at times…

  806. Kirk Says:

    I read a good book.

    “Bush and the House of Saud.”

    Very enlightening…

  807. Kirk Says:

    Dakota, Bush just borrowed a trillion dollars from the Chinese to waste on a hole in the desert, and all you can do is complain about Obama.

    Sheesh!!!

  808. Lowdown in Beijing Says:

    Kirk,

    And I am over here capitalizing on it…making absurd money and not paying US tax! Love it!

    If either McCain or Obama does the same, I am all for it…think I’ll register out of state so I can vote for both.

    No more SSI, no more unemployment insurance, etc., etc. , etc.

    My house in NorCal: Bought and paid for by your votes, this war, and Long Term US T-Bills and your inability to stop buying Chinese goods…lol.

    Hey LMN, as an Elitist, I loved the Anschluss: Noch einmal!!!!

  809. Raiders4Life Says:

    # Kirk Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    I read a good book.

    “Bush and the House of Saud.”

    Very enlightening…

    ….

    I read a couple of books too.

    First one: The Bible.

    Second one: Whiny ass liberals who hate America and our current commander in chief can take their whiny asses to another country and see how they like it there.

    Both very enlightening.

  810. Raiders4Life Says:

    I love this country, and I love the Raiders! I hate Muslims, liberals, all NFL teams other than the Raiders, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Black people who listen to the likes of them instead of smart black people like Bill Cosby and Condaleeza Rice, illegal immigrants, Mexican Americans who don’t come out against illegal immigrants, who are the same as the illegals, as far as I’m concerned, Michael Moore, Barack Obama (see above), and anyone who doesn’t believe that God has blessed this country and intended us to be the best.

    Go Raiders!!!

  811. Raiders4Life Says:

    Here it comes. Some liberal is going to play the race card and accuse me of being a racist. Well, I’m not. I’m against anyone being ignorant and stupid, black or white. I’m against thugs, living the life. I hate them. And that’s the problem with blacks in this country, they look up to them instead of the good blacks, who are a credit to their race. Bill Cosby, Larry Elder, etc. But of course, these brainwashed black idiots will call these good black men “uncle toms”. That is sad. black people really get on my nerves. I wish they’d just shut up, and go back to Africa.

  812. 4evaRaider Says:

    Goog Morning Nation.Rise and Comment!!!

  813. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMN I got the wrong # when I said LMAO it was NOT 4 post 728.Just wanted 2 clear that up,BRO!!!

  814. Andrews mom Says:

    Nobody was able to answer my question from yesterday.

    What the heck does shack mean when he says how does my butt taste?

  815. Johnny Rebel Says:

    He’s probably a referring to prison life since 80+% of the total prison population is black, but thats just a guess.

  816. La Milicia Negra Says:

    EBR…

    Lol man you crack me up…USAruleLMNsux.com… Muhahaha good one =)

  817. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Kirk Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Immodest, Bush’s press secretary didn’t even know about the Cuban Missle Crisis.

    Our country is doomed.
    _______________________________________________________

    is that the hot one? the blond women, shes hot, never thought she knew anything… just a pretty face =) blonds have more fun =)

  818. La Milicia Negra Says:

    How about them Raiders!?

  819. Andrews mom Says:

    I will have to let go of it then. I am not sure why I want to know what it means nonetheless it seems strange for one of “the top five big men to ever play the game of basketball” to sing about another player licking his butt and wondering what it taste like.

  820. 4evaRaider Says:

    post #779;Dakota says, I guess its just you and me poopy Everytime I look at that,I can barley type because it sounds soooooo ufckin funny.Oh my GOD LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  821. 4evaRaider Says:

    hey poopy how my ass taste???????

  822. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMN ,no new news but what the hell,yesterday was about as much fun you could have on a blog

  823. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4evaRaaider…

    man it was action packed! I had 8times the fronts the naz1es had… we know they couldn’t handle two, so i’m quite impressed how I managed it… but it was very stressful…

  824. Dakota Says:

    LMFAO!

  825. 4evaRaider Says:

    As Dakota said;You have very thick skin my friend.It looked more like 20 fronts,but you never backed down from your original comment.That so-called red blooded american puke was just a posser anyway.99% of us are glad you grace this site.And how come these so called experts never mentioned the “RESISTENCE”?They were feeding the nazis so much disinformation at great peril to themselves and their families

  826. 4evaRaider Says:

    Great Good Morning Now dakota is here 2 good morning Dakota!!!

  827. 4evaRaider Says:

    I cant stop laughing at! #779!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  828. Dakota Says:

    This was Denmarks first and last line of defense against Nazi Germany:

    http://www.stmschoolpa.com/teacher/cone.gif

  829. Dakota Says:

    Sorry LMN….sometimes I can’t help myself LOL!

  830. 4evaRaider Says:

    I bet you sound like John Wayne when you type 779 Dakota

  831. 4evaRaider Says:

    Well its good 2 see Dakotas on a roll allready.Now all we need is 4 the rest of the gang 2 show up

  832. Dakota Says:

    Watch it Pilgram or I’ll have you pread eagle on a wagon wheel!

    John Wayne had some great quotes!

    Examples:

    “There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves”

    “Get off your butt and join the Marines!”

    “I’m the stuff men are made of”

    “If everything isn’t black and white, I say, “Why the hell not?””

    “If you’ve got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow.”

    “Women have the right to work wherever they want, as long as they have the dinner ready when you get home”

    “Screw the KC Chiefs!”

  833. Dakota Says:

    spread-eagle…that sounds bad…

  834. Mistabrown Says:

    Jerry, this halfway house isn’t registered yet?

    Backup QB, who cares ? If JR goes down we go down regardless.

  835. Dakota Says:

    Jerry, it has been a week dude, get back to work…this isn’t Europe.

  836. 4evaRaider Says:

    Well look here Mista;I disagree with you on that.WE had the #6 rushing attack last year.The QB “usally” dosent block 4 the RB.With another year under their belts Im sure we will even be better this year.Thats why I posted yesterday we need a vetern #2 QB,one who wont make mistakes if a passing situation arises which it surely will.This is why I question signing Hellens brother.I say sign Dilfer if we can, he proved in Baltimore he wont loose a game 4 you. strong running game.oppertunistic defence will get you far in this league

  837. La Milicia Negra Says:

    so this it the 4th day of Dakotas attack on europeans…

  838. 4evaRaider Says:

    thats my john wayne

  839. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4eva…

    I agree. And I’ve said it here before, Dilfer is an administrator of the game… not a passer, and administrator, thats what Jammy needs around him, clever guys who can help him on the sideline and a guy who can distribute the ball, where it is a short pass of a handover on a run play…

  840. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    I think it is just the 3rd day of my “attack” isn’t it? If it was day 4, it would be a new European record for resisting an attack…you guys usually fold in 3 days or less, lol.

  841. La Milicia Negra Says:

    apropos our talks about Afghanistan… one of our Tanks has been under severe attacks, this morning, in the Helmand province…but assistance beat the attack back…
    according to the first reports…

  842. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMN,im with you on that;good one Dakota!!!

  843. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMN on the Dilfer comment

  844. Dakota Says:

    Dilfer would be much better that what we currently have in place.

  845. 4evaRaider Says:

    Another case in point Mista;Earl Moral backed Johnny U 4 the Dolts[Baltimore]got them through season,playoffs,allthe way to super bowl.A strong running game good defence AND an experienced #2QB.We all know what Joe Willie Namath did 2 them but my point still stands

  846. IowaRaider Says:

    Let’s sign Vinnie!

  847. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Noooooooo!

  848. IowaRaider Says:

    Lets sign Vince Evans!

  849. IowaRaider Says:

    WOW….Looks like Dakota has been defending Lady Liberty’s back! WTG!!!

  850. 4evaRaider Says:

    Iowa RAIDER this post is strongly recommended .The comments contained herein will have you busting a gut AND very educational.Rated a 6star on a 5star platform.I personall am a better person 4 it!!!

  851. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    WTF Dakota!! You are babbling about some 60+ year old war when our comrades are giving the ultimate sacrifice in the troll wars.

    If the trolls win, the American way of life will be doomed (and by American way of life I mean plentiful corn syrup, guns, and hillrod politicians).

    OBAMA/DASCHLE 08

  852. Mistabrown Says:

    4EVA,
    Dilfer is a sack of manure If I ever see him in S&B I will puke. When we are a SB caliber team our backup QB will be important, until then its not even an issue.

  853. IowaRaider Says:

    Dilfer rhymes with pilfer! Nuff said

  854. 4evaRaider Says:

    Mista,if you have or support a football team #2QB is allways an issue.Like Isaid b4 I didnt really care 4 Dilfer early in his career,but when McNair went down in baltimore,he did all you could ask of him.Hes got the RING 2 prove it.On a side note wasnt McNair about the toughest sons of guns 2 ever play the game!!! Talk about a player who truely LOVED the game.His numbers dont warrent a hall of fame bust,but his toughness and love 4 the game do.imho

  855. IowaRaider Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    June 27th, 2008 at 9:27 am
    “WTF Dakota!! You are babbling about some 60+ year old war when our comrades are giving the ultimate sacrifice in the troll wars.”

    Comrades???? Are you a closet RED?

  856. Andrews mom Says:

    Dont be talking mexican in front of the baby.

  857. IowaRaider Says:

    Sieg Heil!

  858. 4evaRaider Says:

    BSJ post 851,sorry bro I didnt see you posted good morning

  859. 4evaRaider Says:

    Davis/Dilfer 08

  860. La Milicia Negra Says:

    apparently there are more Naz1es in the US than in the 3rd re1ch…

  861. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Iowa,

    No I am a Marine, thanks. You a little touchy ’bout my hillrod comment?

  862. 4evaRaider Says:

    Man luckey 4 me AND you guys plumbing bizniss is slow.I get 2 spend my time here while the oldlady works

  863. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Meh, he was pretty good in college. I played against this guy in high school. I would have liked to see them bring back Daunte merely as a mentor to Russ. I’m still lauging inside about Tui being back.

  864. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Daunte is welcome back a whooping… hate that guy, biggest traitor of the NATION and btw he is a purple guy in my eyes… be default i gotta hate him… as I hated Moss when he arrived…

    Daunte can’t play anymore, I rather have marinovich…

  865. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Good morning to you 4eva…

    As for Dilfer, we shant forget that Siragusa is the only reason he has a ring. Without that tub of lard, Dilfer would be just another Lane Kiffin (i.e. scrubby white QB from Fresno State).

  866. La Milicia Negra Says:

    siragusa… hate that falla, I would love if the east coast mafia gave him some heavy boots!

  867. 4evaRaider Says:

    DEATHbyTATUM,Ihave 2 question a guys heart if he gets offerd #1million 4 1 year to PLAY football,especially in GreenBay.Imean what a way 2 end your career,those cheeseheads are well not close 2 THE NATION but still are about as close as any fans can be 2 their team,in way of support.Culpepper dosent want glory,he wants money,imo

  868. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Milicia,

    Why not have Daunte as a mentor to Russ? Same type of big arm, big bodied, mobile QB. How is he a traitor? If you think he is the biggest traitor, what would you say about people like McGlockton or Porter?

  869. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Good point 4eva.

  870. 408RAIDER Says:

    Andrews Mom Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 9:44 am
    Dont be talking mexican in front of the baby.

    how dose 1 talk mexican??? tard

  871. 4evaRaider Says:

    And btw love the moniker DEATHbyTATUM

  872. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Dilfer is a joke, period. He was in the right place at the right time and by right place, I mean one of the best Defenses ever to cover his butt. I laughed my head off when he played the Ravens last year and tried to “bury the hatchet” to make some publicity for himself and then gets demolished by them. His reaction to that touchdown when he freaks out is priceless.

  873. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    I think Andrews Mom shows why women and sports dont mix.

  874. La Milicia Negra Says:

    DbT…

    because he turned his back on us last year… McCown stayed and helped Jammy, Daunte ran away as a b1tchy teenager, when he wasn’t #1 anymore…

    He turned down a job at GB for 1mill, because he wont be a mentor…

    Daunte can take a hike… hate the guy, go play in canada…

  875. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    McClown high tailed it to Miami. Yeah, Daunte cried like a girl, but you have to expect that from guys in the NFL. They all want to play instead of riding the bench. I’d much rather have a backup who wanted to start rather than one who was content being a Tui.

  876. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ohh I can 4eva said the same thing…

  877. 408RAIDER Says:

    morning NATION….I just want to say ufck the donkeys, ufck the chefs and ufck chokers….Raider ON

  878. 4evaRaider Says:

    Damn I wished we played Jacksonville this year.Allmost more than anything Id like 2 see porter go across middle and watch Hartwell BUST HIS A$$

  879. La Milicia Negra Says:

    We do NOT need a doucebag like Daunte to mess up Jammy’s head… we need quality guys, not traitors as that old fart… He better go home and put on one of his purple dresses…

  880. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LMN, why the special distaste for the Vikings?

    What you said about Culpepper’s character is pretty true. He has about as much heart as a…..as a….

    EU infantry soldier.

  881. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning 2 you408RAIDER;Those are some of the most beautifull words one can say first thing in the morning!!!Spoken so eloquently too

  882. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”Al Davis reportedly regrets some of his big-spending this offseason, according to Yahoo! Sports. The Raiders, of course, call this “rumor mongering,” which usually means it’s true. But after blowing a huge amount of money on Javon Walker, Tommy Kelly, Gibril Wilson, and DeAngelo Hall, the Raiders are under a lot of pressure to win this season. If they struggle, perhaps Davis will consider giving up some decision-making power.
    Jun. 27 – 1:14 p.m. ET”—

  883. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ^^^^

    sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-davishavingdoubts062708&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

  884. 408RAIDER Says:

    @ the begining of the 02 03 season I heard porter talking to Rod Brooks on 1050 and tru 2 form he acted like a baby when asked about learning from the great TIM BROWN and jerry whats his name

    shulda known then he was a punk…. I use to be a porter guy bought a jearsy and all that….

  885. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo…

    they wear purple… I cant respect anybody (males) in purple… it doesn’t compute with me… it makes me sick… that was the main reason I thought Lakers would lose, and that a soccer club called celtics had won the last 3 years..

  886. 408RAIDER Says:

    4eva

    I know huh…. I cant wait to get to my computer and do it every morning!!! on the days when I cant I feel like Im missing out on something…..

  887. Dakota Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 10:29 am
    LMN, why the special distaste for the Vikings?

    What you said about Culpepper’s character is pretty true. He has about as much heart as a…..as a….

    EU infantry soldier.
    _______________________________________________________

    LOL!

  888. La Milicia Negra Says:

    dakota…

    go lie on your lakers blanket…

  889. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Re: 879

    I too would love to see Porter get laid out, by us or any other team. In fact, looking back on it, Shell shoulda just got Porter a suite at the Bellagio and a case of DOM instead of benching him…

    Can you imagine LVMPD finding Porter in the gutter wearing nothing but his heavyweight belt (cuz it was too cheap to steal).

  890. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Bo,

    Best analogy I’ve ever heard in my life!

  891. The Dude Says:

    there not called the celtics the soccer club just Celtic, cmon LMN ur better than tht. Have u guys checked out Keller on youtube. Seems like a bit of a dud.

  892. Dakota Says:

    I wish I had a Lakers blanket…I have a Cubs blanket and a Raiders blanket, but no Lakers blanket…

    Thanks for bumming me out LMN.

    What did I ever do to you?

  893. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Dude,

    Keller wasn’t bad in college. Living in Tracy, I played him in high school for a preseason game, he was pretty good then.

    Dakota,

    What kind of blankey are you going to have when the Rays beat the Cubs in the playoffs?

  894. Andrews mom Says:

    Dont talk mexican in front of the baby is my favorite John Wayne quote. I responded that way on purpose to see if anyone got it.

    Anyway, I about fell out of my lazyboy when I heard it last year.

  895. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    as I said earlier, we are on day 4 now…and apparently counting…

  896. 4evaRaider Says:

    I feel EXACTLY the same way 408RAIDER BROTHER!!!

  897. La Milicia Negra Says:

    btw.. EU doesn’t have an army or any forces, so they haven’t got any infantry… again you dont surprise with your lack of knowledge…

  898. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    I meant the Marlins.

  899. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    HEY! Go CUBS!!!

    Dakota, whats your take on Cuban as an owner? I HATE him as a Lakers fan, but he least he would care if his team lost (as you know, that would be a first for a Cubs owner).

  900. The Dude Says:

    He is made for a west coast offense apparently and we run n gun. Davis loves the long ball and Keller cant throw it.

  901. Dakota Says:

    Dakota,

    What kind of blankey are you going to have when the Rays beat the Cubs in the playoffs?
    ______________________________________________________

    If the Cubs lose the WS to the Rays, I may jump off a building…much to the satisfaction of many here.

  902. Andrews mom Says:

    You folks need to pay closer attention in here before you start calling people names.

  903. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LMN, you parse my post at your own peril.

    Of course the EU has no army of it own, I meant any infantry soldier from an EU country.

  904. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Cuban is one of the biggest idiots in sports but yes, at least he does care about his team. I’ll give him that.

  905. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    By EU, you folks mean Europe?

  906. La Milicia Negra Says:

    EU is a political organization, there was talk about it in the 90’s that EU should have an united army, but The No from the Danes in 93 put an stop to it…

  907. Andrews mom Says:

    I dont think Cuban is a idiot. More of an egotistical blowhard. Most idiots dont have a couple billion in the bank account by the time they are thirty.

  908. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    DbT, that is my single favorite trait of Mr. Davis, knowing his gut is wrenching worse than mine when we suck.

  909. La Milicia Negra Says:

    there are plenty of countries in Europe who can’t, who wont or who isn’t a part of EU…

  910. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Bo,

    You’re right. We can only piss and moan so much but he has to front the cash for it. Al may have made some mistakes here and there but you can’t call the guy cheap. Every year he spends money to try and better this team.

  911. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LMN, if the EU did build a united army how would we know?

  912. Dakota Says:

    The EU has been pushing for a European Rapid Reaction Force since at least 1999. Now France is supporting it…

    Seems a little redundant too me…most of Europe is used to cowering under NATO since the fall of the USSR.

  913. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo..

    you wouldn’t, because you don’t have any interests in what’s outside your boarders…

  914. 408RAIDER Says:

    Andrews Mom Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 10:45 am
    You folks need to pay closer attention in here before you start calling people names.

    thats my bad yo… I still would like to know how 1 talks mexican???
    Im not realy a jw guy..

  915. Dakota Says:

    By Nato, I mean the US and UK…the rest of the members just do our laundry.

  916. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    yup, when DK put stop for a united army,france and Germany tried in 99 to make their own, but as the Danish politicians said, NATO is doing the same job, and so its redundant…

  917. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    you really lower the bar for your fellow country men =)

  918. 4evaRaider Says:

    Andrews Mom I feel ashamed I missed that john wayne quote.But I have a legitimate reason;I was putting music to 408RAIDER post#877,I mean those are some of the most beautifull words EVER spoken,so help me GOD!!!

  919. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    I do my best 8)

  920. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 908 910 YEP!!!

  921. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota,

    Lower that bar a bit will ya? I can’t reach it yet…

  922. Dakota Says:

    Here are Danish troops supporting NATO:

    http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/gja0139l.jpg

  923. Dakota Says:

    Can you reach it now bo?

  924. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Speaking of Danish cartoons, I gotta give respect to the newspaper editors in Copenhagen for running and re-running the Mohammed cartoons.

    I hate intolerance of free speech. Of course, had they put Al Davis in a cartoon they should be strung up as apostates.

  925. 4evaRaider Says:

    Oh Dakota where you come up with all this great stuff Ill never know,but PLEASE DONT EVER STOP!!!

  926. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    We have adopted the only tough European:

    http://content.pimp-my-profile.com/userpics/funny_pictures/173.jpg

  927. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN

    do you know how to make more smileys? I gor the 8) 1 the other day! =)

  928. La Milicia Negra Says:

    withmalice.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/kobe1.jpg

    dakota find a better team, will ya =)

  929. Dakota Says:

    http://inventorspot.com/files/images/Stop4.jpg

  930. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408…

    yeah I know them all, but I hate graphic smileys…

    I’m old school linux guy, so its too teenager-like =)

  931. 408RAIDER Says:

    must be lunch time its getting slow in here….. 4) 0) 8) %) (smiley test)

  932. 408RAIDER Says:

    yeah =) is old faithfull but I like the graphic 1s also… my fave is the guy sticking his toung out =P

  933. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Never tried a smiley…. here goes…;25

  934. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LOL
    ;25

  935. La Milicia Negra Says:

    :P

  936. La Milicia Negra Says:

    let me correct myself… I hate them, but I have no feelings about others who use graphic smileys… I hate that they are not line-aligned I always found those encoders s1upid not to get their job done..

  937. 408RAIDER Says:

    thats the 1… spill the beans dude! share the info…..

  938. La Milicia Negra Says:

    : p

  939. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ^ thats the :p

  940. La Milicia Negra Says:

    :P whoops capital P

  941. MR Says:

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 10:31 am

    —”Al Davis reportedly regrets some of his big-spending this offseason, according to Yahoo! Sports. The Raiders, of course, call this “rumor mongering,” which usually means it’s true. But after blowing a huge amount of money on Javon Walker, Tommy Kelly, Gibril Wilson, and DeAngelo Hall, the Raiders are under a lot of pressure to win this season. If they struggle, perhaps Davis will consider giving up some decision-making power.
    Jun. 27 – 1:14 p.m. ET”—

    …………

    Ha! That’s the funniest thing I’ve ever heard; The last line. Al Davis is under no pressure at all. Kiffin is. Al Davis will scapegoat the f’n fans before he blames himself. If the Raiders tank this season, Al Davis will say that Kiffin wanted all of these guys. It’s that simple.

  942. 4evaRaider Says:

    BSJ Im all 4 free speech 2 except maybe prollix or cornball!!!

  943. 408RAIDER Says:

    smiley test 1.1 : P

    BO nice try

  944. 408RAIDER Says:

    :P

  945. 408RAIDER Says:

    oh yeay IM in the house thanx LMN

  946. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408…

    leave the space out… come again

  947. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Prolix and cornballs are OK terms if they are used together in the same sentence, so that “lix” and “balls” enter the subconscious mind…

    Bo to wife after sharing her aches and pains: “Honey, don’t be such a prolix cornball… mmmm, that feels good baby”

  948. La Milicia Negra Says:

    yeah!

  949. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo…

    you bastard! =)

  950. MR Says:

    Andrew’s mom, John Wayne was a homo. So is Clint Eastwood. It’s common knowledge in tinseltown, regarding both of them.

  951. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    One note of caution: Do not say prolix cornballs when alone… you’ll throw your back out.

  952. MR Says:

    Forgot to add that if the Raiders DO win, don’t expect me to give Al Davis any credit. And didn’t I promise to leave if the Raiders ran the ball 20 times a game? I did, didn’t I? I hope nobody remembers that.

  953. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    :-D

  954. 4evaRaider Says:

    BO thank you 4 clearing that up 4 me.I will act accordingly in the future

  955. MR Says:

    Dakota, it’s no surprise to see you quoting John Wayne. You’re just the yokel that would buy into his image. Dude was gay. Well, he was bi, to be honest. Liked his ohhh and his arghhh. Don’t know what to tell you, Oak.

  956. MR Says:

    It’s been well determined that Al Davis does not understand the modern day game. So that’s correct, to the guy who posted under my name, Al Davis will get no credit. He gets credit for hiring the right people, and that’s it.

  957. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    testing the Elway smiley: :-E

  958. La Milicia Negra Says:

    :E

  959. La Milicia Negra Says:

    hmm didn’t work :=)

  960. 4evaRaider Says:

    Not to change the subject or anything but;I found this PERDUE whole roasting chicken at grocery store.It comes in its own roasting bag!!!.All you do is pop it in the oven at 400 for 90 minutes and viola.When the oldlady gets home theres a beautifull whole roasted chicken on dinner table!!!I look as good as Justin FARGAS last year and I get 2 pick the dessert I WANT!!!And we all know what that is

  961. MR Says:

    Yahoo sports, today:

    “Three sources who have had conversations with the Oakland Raiders general managing partner within the past two months said Davis has expressed regret over the team’s offseason spending spree on players and worries about his ability to end the longest-running slump in team history.”

    What? Al Davis doesn’t believe in our players? That’s it!! Al Davis is not a real fan, man!!!!

  962. MR Says:

    More from yahoo sports:

    “So much so that he would relinquish control of essentially making all personnel decisions and hire someone else to call some of the shots?

    ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported in a blog on the network’s website on June 6 that former Green Bay Packers vice president of player finance Andrew Brandt was on the verge of being hired by the Raiders in a similar role. However, two league sources told Yahoo! Sports that Brandt declined the offer and countered by offering to serve as a consultant. One of the sources found Oakland’s attempt to land Brandt particularly interesting.”

  963. MR Says:

    Not only can Al not hire a coach, he can’t hire a GM, either. My god, has he dug himself a hole.

  964. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    (\_/)
    (o.o)
    (____)o

    (EU infantry smiley)

  965. Andrews mom Says:

    MR I know very little about who john and clint did or didnt do but it would not suprise me because it was recently confirmed that basketball players in LA are into buttsex and other kinky things with each other.

  966. 4evaRaider Says:

    Bo youre getting good at that stuff!!!

  967. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Andrew’s Mom, did you get confirmation by signing a one-night contract as a Laker?

  968. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”Mike Williams’ conditioning level is reportedly still an issue. Williams hasn’t been bad in non-contact OTA work, but he’s still hovering in the 240-250 pound range and doesn’t look like a great bet to make the Titans unless they keep seven receivers. The four-week layoff before training camp could work against Williams due to his apparent lack of self discipline. Jun. 27 – 2:54 p.m. ET”—

  969. KoolKell Says:

    Walker, Probably won’t be ready at the start of camp.

    Kelly, probably won’t be ready at the start of camp.

    Two players, Al invested heavily in will be behind schedule from the jump.

  970. Eurosuccusallotus Says:

    Let’s see what Europe has offered the world the last 50 years……..reliance on US monetary aid……racial and ethnic cleansing…..explotation of African nations…..backhanded deals with the murderous dictator Saddam…….mad cow disease…..and the greatest offering of them all – french wine and brie…..

  971. La Milicia Negra Says:

    yup…

    meanwhile you’ve been sitting in your prayer circles…

  972. KoolKell Says:

    Hey Lane Kiffin Heads Up,

    Al Didn’t spend all that money to come in 8-8. Even if he did spend foolishly.

  973. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LOL @ 973

  974. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    Why is it that someone from Europe comes to this site for an AMERICAN team playing and AMERICAN game and thinks they can dis the whole country? LMN, are you really from Europe or are you on Al Gore’s payroll???

  975. La Milicia Negra Says:

    have I dissed the whole country?

  976. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    What kind of BS news flash is this? An owner regrets dropping big guaranteed money after his new guy gets his face rearranged in Vegas. DUH! Should the owner NOT feel any regret?

    Face it nation. Al takes risks every year to put together a winner. Some pay off, others don’t. If you want an owner who will never roll the dice, get a Cardinals jersey. You’ll be asleep by halftime each week.

  977. MR Says:

    My favorite was the time I quoted Rich Gannon ad nauseum when he criticized the Raiders, but then a couple weeks later turned around and claimed he was nothing but a Raider shill when he praised them. God I hope the Raiders don’t run the ball twenty times a game this year.

  978. KoolKell Says:

    How is it that America elected a moron like Dubya??

  979. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Bedpan,

    Any politician named Al is OK in my book. I have no doubt he was named after the great Mr. Davis.

    “Pride, Poise, Pollution Control”

    “Just Walk Baby”

    Still, I resent Al Gore for robbing AD of the Nobel peace prize.

  980. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 2:21

    “….as I said I’m proud of it, there are some major points I never will get about the US…

    - they all moan about how bad is, but wont pay for the party!?”

    All of us moan about it????? Not me. Not most of the people I know. This place isn’t perfect as no place is perfect for all people, but I’d rather live here than anywhere else. I’ve been to France, Spain, Denmark, Ireland, Norway, and Germany. Some fine things there and some not so fine from my point of view. Nothing Europe offers could entice me away from my country.

    Most of the people who settled this country were from Europe and most of those were the dirt poor. Is that a touch of envy that the dregs and rejects from most European countries have built the most powerful nation the world has ever seen?

  981. KoolKell Says:

    How is it that 8 Airplanes could get hijacked simultaneously and flown into the WTC??? On George W Bush’s watch?

  982. La Milicia Negra Says:

    lol

  983. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Gannon was nothing until AD coached him up.

    Gruden would be a ballboy in Seattle if not for AD.

    Just win baby.

  984. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    Bo,

    I think Al would have won in 2000 if he didn’t come off as such a dead fish whenever you’d see him on the news.

    Still, you gotta give props to the dude that invented the internet!

  985. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Has AD sued the Nobel committee yet?

  986. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    Al did indeed sue. He won, but the verdict was overturned by the world court because America had enough awards already.

  987. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ABA…

    where have I dissed your entire nation??

  988. Andrews mom Says:

    Because the other choice was John Kerry?

  989. KoolKell Says:

    How is it that the “Most Powerful Nation Ever” can’t subdue 1raq?

  990. 4evaRaider Says:

    walker I believe we can deal with it if hes not ready.I say this because I strongly believe Johnnie Lee Higgans is up 2 the task this year.Kelly not being ready presents a bigger problem but we have 12 other DL on roster.They all need 2 step up.I believe some idiot once said you play foot ball with the team you got.Everybody gotta believe in something,I believe Ill have another beer

  991. KoolKell Says:

    Andrews Mom,

    You think Kerry would have been worse?

  992. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Al Davis DID invent the internet, and he did it so his players, coaches and fans could access the immense database of Raider glory 24/7.

    The original setup was RTTP (Raider text transfer protocol) until the Rozelle intervened again.

  993. KoolKell Says:

    World Economy 50 Trillion
    Us Debt 10 Trillion

  994. La Milicia Negra Says:

    btw…

    your nation isn’t great because of rejects of the old world… its great because of its natural resources, because you used to invite any scientist who wanted to join you, because you used to believe in freedom, but since reduced it to a bumpersticker…

  995. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    If Al Gore came across as a dead fish, no wonder the Swedes gave him an award!

    “Announcing the 2006 Nobel prize for lutefisk….Al Gore!”

  996. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo…

    did you know that AOL is like after christ.. it means After Oakland Left…

  997. 408RAIDER Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 11:56 am
    (\_/)
    (o.o)
    (____)o

    nice smiley dude

  998. KoolKell Says:

    Silicon Valley would come to a screeching halt without:

    Indian Scientists
    Korean Scientists
    Iranian Scientists
    Chinese Scientists

  999. Dakota Says:

    http://online-book-store.net/T-SHIRT%20STORE%20FILES/Archive%20Small%20Pictures/Smiley%20GET%20BENT%20small.jpg

  1000. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LMN, what do you do to see games in DK? Do they have sports bars that can get Raider games? It sounds appealing to me…no one likely to bring up the snow job or the Super Bowl loss.

    Then again, I’d probably get loaded, talk trash and get stomped by a bunch of nancyboy soccer fans. LOL.

  1001. La Milicia Negra Says:

    woaw 1001 nights…

  1002. TomTom Says:

    You know what’s kind of funny? I agree with much of what LMN says about America, even say many of the same things myself in discussions with friends. And yet to hear someone from another country say them rubs me the wrong way. Why is that, do you think?

  1003. Dakota Says:

    LMN elsker oppustet lad Amerikaner kvinder!

  1004. 408RAIDER Says:

    # 990

    Ill drink 2 that…..

    Guys Im gonna be sick my daughter is makeing cards for the in laws. She chose blue and orange construction paper OMG what have I done to deserve such betrayal…

  1005. La Milicia Negra Says:

    BO…

    we get live broadcasting, and when there is commercial in the US, the switch to the studio… 2 channels share the NFL…

    each weekend we have at least 4 games, sometimes 8… during the week we get the other games of that particular week…

    Last year was a bad one, broadcasting-wise and raider-wise… so I saw most on NFL Networks… worked great…

    on average, I watch 10 of the weeks 16 games (bye weeks counted out)

  1006. Andrews mom Says:

    I think it does not matter which yale educated skull and crossbone globalist sits in the white house. They are all vile, evil and despicable. They do not have our interests at heart, just their own.

  1007. La Milicia Negra Says:

    dakota…

    close… and yuck!

  1008. Dakota Says:

    Here, I will throw one in that supports LMN:

    http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/europe_vs_usa.jpg

  1009. Dakota Says:

    Why are we fighting when we all know soon:

    http://www.amcoptic.com/Jihad/jihad23.jpg

  1010. La Milicia Negra Says:

    TomTom…

    because, you never like when somebody says bad thing about your own country, even if its true…

    Dakota have mention several times that DK is no military power… but before 1864 we were, every kingdom wanted our alliegence and got it by marry into it… we have the longest running monarchy… But its true we are not a military power any more, and it hurts when people say so…Now we have powers more suiting a mature country… such as engineering, knowledge and development..

  1011. 4evaRaider Says:

    It will be ok 408,shes a child and children can be excused for their silly actions.Plus she has a wise and understanding dad that will teach her the true Raider way.So relax and enjoy that beer its all good

  1012. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    Wow! If I listen to KoolKell and everyone else saying how terrible our contry is, I’d be slitting my own wrists right now.

    You guys want effective change? Do it to the CEOs and politicians where it hurts; in the wallet! Stop buying so much gas. Quit buying consumer goods. Quit charging things on plastic. In other words, don’t spend your green! The less money you spend, the less they make. The less you spend, the less the government takes.

  1013. Dakota Says:

    Prolix:

    http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2635276/2/istockphoto_2635276_blond_girl_with_lollypop.jpg

  1014. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    And bad ass newspaper editors

  1015. KoolKell Says:

    “Now we have powers more suiting a mature country… such as engineering, knowledge and development..”

    Nice one.

  1016. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    Bo,
    you haven’t a clue! Everyone knows that all newspaper editors and fair and impartial to the news they report.

  1017. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    Engineering, knowledge, and developement are really good at keeping terrorist at bay….and so is pandering to them. That is something we can learn from Europe.

  1018. 408RAIDER Says:

    4eva

    Thanx bro…. I convinced her to make some raider shields on them donky looking cards.. Shes getting realy good @ them BTW… Makes me proud :P

  1019. KoolKell Says:

    ABA,

    I don’t think there’s any other Nation in the World, including Denmark, that’s elected a minority candidate as President. That’s how we inspire the world, ok?

  1020. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Denmark has newspaper editors who weren’t intimidated by jihadists into not printing a Mohammed cartoon. Balls are balls, something Lou Dobbs and Bill O’Reilly have none of.

  1021. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    We didn’t elect him KK, William Rehquist did.

    Hey Rehquist, how’s Charlton Heston’s azz taste?

  1022. KoolKell Says:

    Well, we Re-elected him, that’s even worse.

  1023. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    KK,

    You will see several states that mirror the fed in that the executive is of the minority party and the legislature is controlled by the majority.

    Would you want Dems running everything? Would you want Reps running everything? If you’re like most voters, you want the party you support in sole power.

    I personally don’t. It gives too much power to one ideology.

  1024. La Milicia Negra Says:

    American athlete…

    i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/john_donovan/05/11/bullpens.managers/t1_heathbell.jpg

    European athlete…

    i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/footballboners/Cristiano%20Ronaldo/ronhq.jpg

  1025. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    KK,

    BTW, I understand that you mean OBAMA as a minority, but my point is that GW was the minority party in the 04 election. I could give a rats a$$ if our president is black, white, male ,female, gay, straight, etc.

    My point is that I don’t want congress and the pres of the same party ramrodding an agenda they want on the people.

  1026. SpreadtheHate Says:

    Wow. Keep it up guys.

    LMN hates the USA because Europe is so much better! (Even though he spends all day talking to Americans about an American sport!)

    MR hates everybody. Especially himself!

    KoolKell hates white people, republicans, and w. bush. The man has been keeping him down far too long.

    Dakota hates MR, gays, and anyone outside of the USA

    All of you hate the baby jesus!

    Spread the hate! We all know that the world needs more of this!

  1027. KoolKell Says:

    ABA,

    No, I’m talking about a candidate of a minority race. Nobody else has done what we’re about to do. That’s walking it like we talk it.

  1028. 408RAIDER Says:

    trainig camp is never gonna get here… ufck the donkeys…..

  1029. Dakota Says:

    http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs10/300W/i/2006/099/f/4/The_Antichrist_by_ILoveSadie.jpg

  1030. Dakota Says:

    http://o.bamapost.com/obama_anti_christ_3984.jpg

  1031. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Al’s Bedpan Attendant Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    Engineering, knowledge, and developement are really good at keeping terrorist at bay….and so is pandering to them. That is something we can learn from Europe.
    ______________________________________________________

    how has your plan worked out for you?… last terrorist attack on DK was in 1807 by the english… last assassination was in 1286…

    but I might admit, our embassy’s in the midd1e east, have been under some attack after the aforementioned cartoons… and it cost us tons of doe, in canceled orders :/

  1032. Dakota Says:

    I posted both just to be fair!

  1033. La Milicia Negra Says:

    for the record, i don’t hate americans, hate the way they are taught to think about them selves…

  1034. 408RAIDER Says:

    STH I hate the donkeys and the chef oh yeah and the chokers

  1035. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
    # Al’s Bedpan Attendant Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    Engineering, knowledge, and developement are really good at keeping terrorist at bay….and so is pandering to them. That is something we can learn from Europe.
    ______________________________________________________

    how has your plan worked out for you?… last terrorist attack on DK was in 1807 by the english… last assassination was in 1286…

    _______________________________________________________

    LMN,

    Quit bragging about being irrelevant.

  1036. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    I might ad, God you are fair =) LOL

  1037. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408…

    good to hear form you again, and I agree =)

  1038. SpreadtheHate Says:

    We all know how humble Europeans are! LOL

  1039. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    How many Europeans does it take to screw in a light bulb?

    None. They just give the job to those wasteful, irreverant, disgusting, fat lazy Americans.

  1040. La Milicia Negra Says:

    dakota…

    get your purple dress ready, your husband is in your drive way… his name is Paul Pierce…

  1041. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN

    Im glad u dont hate us (= reverse smiley….

  1042. Dakota Says:

    why has no one e-mailed me at my new e-mail account???

    fukeurope@yahoo.com

    Seriously…LMN, e-mail me and we can take this conversation off this site!

  1043. KoolKell Says:

    It’s not about irrelevance, it’s about not fuking with people.

  1044. Joe Says:

    The only things I don’t like about Europeans is the way they stand in line (think: Cincinnati Who concert) and their, shall we say, aversion to showers. The two kind of go hand in hand, come to think of it. Still, it’s my favorite vacation destination, hands down. Too damned expensive right now, though, with the euro kicking the dollar’s ass the way it is.

  1045. La Milicia Negra Says:

    15,000 TICKETS TO LONDON GAME GONE IN 30 MINUTES
    Posted by Michael David Smith on June 27, 2008, 3:59 p.m.

    The NFL said today that the 15,000 tickets it made available for the October 26 game in London sold out in half an hour.

    “Once again this demonstrates the huge interest in the sport in the UK,” said Alistair Kirkwood, managing director of the NFL’s United Kingdom office. “Fans here are excited to be able to see two teams of this caliber playing in the UK, and with a full Wembley Stadium, we expect the atmosphere to be electric when the Saints and Chargers take the field.”

    The league previously put 40,000 tickets on sale for the game, and those sold out in 90 minutes.

    The announced attendance of last year’s Giants-Dolphins game at Wembley Stadium was 81,176. The NFL says it will play at least one game a year in the UK for at least the next three years.

  1046. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    I’m just a fat lazy American, judged by a Dane
    By europe’s definition, I’m clinically insane
    I was late for world war two while ruskie men died for me
    I was blind to my country’s decadence, but now I can see
    LMN has pointed me on a righteous humble path to follow
    He gives me hashish with rhetoric and smiles as I swallow

  1047. KoolKell Says:

    Why is it that the US & 1srael can have nuclear weapons, and 1ran can’t?

  1048. Joe Says:

    Actually KoolKell, it can be and often is both, irrelevance and not f’ing with folks. Especially with idiots who kill people over cartoons they don’t like.

  1049. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    I just realized that KoolKell is really Sean Penn!

  1050. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Joe,

    Many Europeans have not yet learned the value of personal hygiene, be it regular showers or toothbrushing. But this is generally more true of the French and the Brits.

    Not sure why. LMN?

  1051. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Sean Penn is above reproach.

    Al Davis directed Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

    Just Win Baby.

  1052. La Milicia Negra Says:

    yo DEA… I did not give ABA any hashish… had I any I would smoke it myself =)

  1053. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo…

    well I’ve heard it many times in american films, but never come across it my self, first hand… of course there are truckers who stink and so on, but I never come across a guy or girl who didn’t shower twice a day and same goes with brushing their teeth..

  1054. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    twice a day? thats some powerful funk…

  1055. La Milicia Negra Says:

    well morning and evening…

  1056. Andrews mom Says:

    Time for a new blog

  1057. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Andrews Mom…

    I agree =)

  1058. Dakota Says:

    Sean Penn, Rosie O’Donnell, Charlie Sheen, Barbara Streisand, Jane Fonda, Alec Baldwin, Janeane Garofalo, Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Michael Moore….Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Democratic Party!

    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1135/1006808752_acd13c8b7f.jpg

  1059. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    How about a blog where we learn that Javon won’t be ready until week 8 of the season due to his facial injuries?

  1060. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    Dakota,

    You left out David Lettermen and George Clooney

  1061. Dakota Says:

    At least the Republicans have Rip Torn!

  1062. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 1018; no problem my 408RAIDER BROTHER.Anytime or anything 2 help IM honered 2 do.And see with your guidance and intrest in what your babygirl does it will allways be good.She sounds like a true daddys girl and a chip off the ol block.My babygirl is 17 and omg she is sooooooooooooo beautiful she could be a raiderette.And its all good on the babygirl front.GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1063. White Republican Says:

    KK…

    This is why Iran can’t have nukes…

    Nuclear proliferation is a term now used to describe the spread of nuclear weapons, fissile material, and weapons-applicable nuclear technology and information, to nations which are not recognized as “nuclear weapon States” by the Treaty on the Nonproliferation of Nuclear Weapons, also known as the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty or NPT. Proliferation has been opposed by many nations with and without nuclear weapons, the governments of which fear that more countries with nuclear weapons may increase the possibility of nuclear warfare (up to and including the so-called “countervalue” targeting of civilians with nuclear weapons), de-stabilize international or regional relations, or infringe upon the national sovereignty of states.

  1064. Al's Bedpan Attendant Says:

    KK wants Iran to have nukes, but no handguns for US citizens? Hmmm….I see a connection here….

  1065. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Steelers Dump Najeh Davenport..

    Come on Al lets get rid of Jordan!!!

  1066. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ABA…

    I can see you only read between the line, not the exactly lines =)

  1067. I hate you guys Says:

    Why can’t Iran have the bomb? Because they’d use it, that’s why! Duh! To start a war, that is, not to end one, just to anticipate those who might point out, ‘Well, the US used one, too’. No nukes for Iran. Those mofos are crazy, in case you haven’t noticed.

  1068. I hate you guys Says:

    On second thought, let’s make a deal with Iran: Fine, you can have the bomb, but you have to promise only to use it on Denmark.

  1069. Dakota Says:

    Lol! wait…that is not funny!

  1070. 408RAIDER Says:

    Negra Modelo…. mmmmm beeeeeer… wish i had some hashish 2 go with it (=

  1071. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Dos Equis= Better than Modelo

  1072. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 1046 aba;sounds like it could go gold.Ill put some head banging metal behind it,and you could have something there.Ill start as soon as me and LMN finnish off that hash

  1073. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Mmmmmm thats a good beer, only tasted it a few times…

  1074. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    New Castle is the best.

  1075. 4evaRaider Says:

    gotta run guys will be back in couple hours.RAIDER ON!!!!

  1076. La Milicia Negra Says:

    DbT..

    NBA? Newcastle Brown Ale?

  1077. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Yes sir!

  1078. 408RAIDER Says:

    4eva

    17 wow! (I hear they get more aditude as the get older) thankfully it is usually directed @ mom… I dont ever want my babygril to get that old but its gonna happen =[ mine is only 6 born a raider fan even had the RAIDER onezys @ the hospital….

  1079. 408RAIDER Says:

    DEATHbyTATUM Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
    Dos Equis= Better than Modelo

    no way dude! newcastle is delicious tho…. Patron beats em all IMO

  1080. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    My favorites:
    -New Castle
    -Widmer’s Bros. Hefeweizen
    -Guiness

  1081. La Milicia Negra Says:

    DbT…

    yummy, yup thats good too…

    of my favorite foreign beers is…

    Caledonian 80 (Scottish)
    NBA (Newcastle Brown Ale – British)
    Kilkinny (Irish)
    Hoegaarden weisbeer (Belgium)

  1082. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I listed foreign, because you might know them…
    But we have a bunch of beers that I prefer, but you wouldn’t know any of them :/

  1083. La Milicia Negra Says:

    DbT…

    its Newcastle btw… not New Castle..

    btw own by Dutch Heineken and Danish Carlsberg, btw =)

  1084. 408RAIDER Says:

    guiness xtra stout now ur talkin… ever try any of the spaten beers?

  1085. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Lebat Blue=Worst Beer ever. Then again Canadian beer is rancid to begin with. The only good Canuck beer I like is Moosehead.

  1086. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Heineken is piss. Gross.

  1087. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408…

    of course I’ve been to Oktoberfest in Munich several times…

    but I don’t like guiness

  1088. 408RAIDER Says:

    Heineken is better than bud miller or coors now thats piss water

  1089. La Milicia Negra Says:

    DbT…

    most beer you mentioned are owned by heinekken

  1090. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408

    post 1087… was regarding Spaten Bräu..

  1091. 408RAIDER Says:

    I envy u I want to go to Oktoberfest in Munich… I love all the spatens but optimator is my favorite (=

  1092. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Oktoberfest is the worlds greatest party! Both in terms of quality and quantity….

  1093. jeRaider Says:

    Time for a new blog

  1094. jeRaider Says:

    only because you guy’s are making me thirst!!

  1095. 909raiderlifer Says:

    A nice pint of, “Black & Tan” is, IMO a very refreshing beer.

    But, what do I know. Damn near ANY beer that is ice COLD, is refreshing to me.(8

  1096. 408RAIDER Says:

    909 ihear ya bro.. nice reverse smiley BTW (=

  1097. 408RAIDER Says:

    DbT

    moosehead tast like greenbud…

  1098. jeRaider Says:

    (.) (.)
    / . \

  1099. 909raiderlifer Says:

    A chilled shot or three of Patron, always gets the “job” done. After all sometimes, “It’s, just all about results”.

  1100. 408RAIDER Says:

    JeRaider

    nice 1… todays topics r smileys and beer so far thats all ive been able to contribut to this blog

  1101. El NegroyPlata Says:

    Wow, you really know about beers LMN and 408, Im from México, and my favorite mexican beer its Noche Buena and my favorite european beer its Carolus. Salud!!!!

  1102. jeRaider Says:

    thought the bunny was cool, sent that to my wife..

  1103. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    408,

    You know what, I’ve always thought that myself!

  1104. 408RAIDER Says:

    ENP

    whats you favorite tequila??

  1105. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    All Tequila is bad news. I can’t stand the stuff after I had a wild night with it a few years ago.

    Jim Beam all the way.

  1106. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Well, when there is no RAIDER football news, to talk about.)8. Then (8’s and beer. Is better than some of the other drivel, that has been spouted adnauseam here lately.

  1107. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ENP…

    thanks =)

  1108. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Beam on the rocks, or w/ Coca Cola, Is a good way to go.

    “To much of everything, is just enough”.

  1109. 408RAIDER Says:

    dont 4get the zig~ zags or blunts if you prefer

  1110. jeRaider Says:

  1111. La Milicia Negra Says:

    JeRaider…

    what was that? a pimple?

  1112. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Cough-cough??

  1113. 408RAIDER Says:

    http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/

  1114. jeRaider Says:

    just pushing buttons. to see what i got here ..

  1115. Good Beer Says:

    Grolsch is one of my favorites.

    I also like St. Paulie’s Beer, Sam Adams Cherry Wheat, Bass, and Shiner Bock(Brewed only in TX)

  1116. K-Rock Says:

    Broken jaw, cracked orbital bone, concussion…

    I don’t care what Kiffin says, Walker will be lucky to be ready by the first game of the season. Game 2 or 3 most likely.

    What a waste.

  1117. 408RAIDER Says:

    gordon biersch Dunkelweizen now thats a great beer brewed in the 408 San Jose California

  1118. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Good Beer…

    yeah many of my friends like Grolsch too, I enjoy one once in a while but, but I find it a bit too bitter..

  1119. wva raider Says:

    Why bash Walker hell all he did was get robbed n beat up while in Vegas.You think thats just wrong hell ratface got rid of a thug but he kept Marshall yeah I think by week one u will love Walker.PS TALK FOOTBALL U SOUND LIKE BUNCH OF HATERS NOT TRUE FANS

  1120. saintkaufman Says:

    2-3 months for a broken jaw, don’t know about an eye socket. I think he’ll be ready for game 1 but he won’t be in “football” shape when he gets there.

    Mmmmmmmm, Negra Modelo, Patron, hash, Gordon Biersch. Man, I’m thirsty!

  1121. 909raiderlifer Says:

    At the moment, I’am enjoying some refreshing ice COLD Coors “banquet” beer.

    What, can I say. My everyday beer of choice for 30+ years.

    Yeah, I know. “brewed with pure rocky mountain Elk pizz water”. yuk yuk.

  1122. 408RAIDER Says:

    my all time favorite beer is……… FREE BEER

  1123. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Eyesocket damage and broken jaw doesn’t mean he cant sit on a stationary bike!

  1124. saintkaufman Says:

    909,
    One of the best beers I’ve ever had was just a straight up Coors that was givin at the end of the tour there in Golden, Co. I could’nt believe it! I live in Portland, Or which has more microbrews per capita than anywhere in the world. I’ve had me some beers, if you know what I mean. But man, that Coors there at the brewery was so refreshing I was taking the drink tickets from my relatives!!

  1125. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Not that, I’ve ever had my jaw or orbital socket broken. (although, have had others try to, on me at times in my younger days.)

    That should not keep Walker from working out, running, lifting etc. To get in shape.

    We will find out when camp opens, whether or not he can participate and get into “football” shape, and learn the offense.

    I’am cutting him some slack for now. Most, if not all of us has done something ill advised or just plain stupid before.

  1126. La Milicia Negra Says:

    909…

    I think running is out of the question.. and at first lifting too… but sit on a bike work of some pounds should be plausible in a few days

  1127. jeRaider Says:

    1st pre season game throw it across the middle and let him get hit to test him out if he gets up good. if he gets hurt well then we can make plans with out him and somebody will have to step up!!

  1128. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Saintkaufman…

    I, have to fess up here a little. My family lived in Evergreen, Co. for a few years when I was a little whipper before, moving out here to SO-CAL.

    Anyway, I remember that my dad let me take a sip or two of o.g. Coors after the tour. So I guess that makes it 40+ years, that I’ve been drinking that stuff.

  1129. saintkaufman Says:

    I doubt he’ll be ready for preseason. He can run and lift and ride all year if he wants but playing in a game is a totally different workout and he’ll be sucking wind hard by the second half if he’s not able to go until week 1.

  1130. saintkaufman Says:

    You gotta love dad 909!!

    I lived in Lakewood for a coupla years in the early 90’s, just by Red Rocks. Got a great Fat Tire at the Busch brewery in Fort Collins as well. Now that was good beer! My mom still lives in Englewood, Co and has 7 fold the disdain for the Broncos as anyone in here!! I love that old lady!

  1131. 909raiderlifer Says:

    LMN…
    Treadmill work, all the live long day, also

  1132. 408RAIDER Says:

    ufck the donkeys… ur mom sounds like a great woman Saint…..

  1133. 909raiderlifer Says:

    JeRaider..#1128..

    Best idea I’ve read in here, in quite a while.

  1134. saintkaufman Says:

    Thanks 408! Truth be told she’s an old school Steelers fan. But she’s not a Raider hater?? Go figure. And yes, I give her sh1t about “that Franco play”!

  1135. 408RAIDER Says:

    steelers OUCH but any 1 who hates the donkeys is ok in my books.. My moms a whiner fan but she still roots 4 the raiders! so I know how ya feel..

  1136. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I’m guessing Najeh Davenport will end up a bronco…

  1137. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Saintkaufman…

    I lived there, 62-66. A old family friend from there is over in Montrose, over on the “western slope”.

    My ol’lady’s son & daughter (from her 1st. marriage.) are on there way out here for a week,as I type.They live in Breck & the Co Springs areas.

    The daughter is a Raider fan, The son could care less, into snowboarding & dirt bikes.

    Colorado is bitchin, ‘cept for the donkeys, I hope to move back there someday.

    408Raider….. Free beer,is always the best beer.

  1138. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hello NATION,just opened,a fosters myself

  1139. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Got 2 go..

    Take care, all..

  1140. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Last word…

    If you can find a place, that serves o.g. Coors on draught. Try a pitcher. Mmmm Mmmm good stuff.

    Take care, all & have a great weekend.

    “I’ve been a Raider, all my life.”–Jim Otto.

  1141. La Milicia Negra Says:

    a pitcher isnt that baseball =)

  1142. RaiderLen Says:

    Hello Nation…Very interesting topics discussed. I’m impressed with the inteligence and horrified with the ignorance.(or Trolls that fan the flames of controversy) Quite a volitile mix!

  1143. 4evaRaider Says:

    what does the o.g. stand 4 in coors?

  1144. RaiderLen Says:

    Oh God…another Coors?

  1145. 4evaRaider Says:

    yuk yuk yuk

  1146. 4evaRaider Says:

    must be about dinner time

  1147. Huff24 Says:

    Why does everybody drink watered down crap? Why drink 12 beers of crap to get a buzz when you can drink 3 good beers to give you a better feeling and if you plan on having a hangover, it will be a better hangover too. I still can’t understand why Budweiser is the King of Beers. Sure…If you’re poor and you want to be a cheap @$$, buy that crap. I personally like Newcastle, Guiness, Warsteiner to name a few. If I want something less harsh, I go with Rolling Rock.

    Now…If I show up to a place and all there is, is cheap beer then yes…Coors is one of the better beers. I can stand Bud light as well but outside of that. Everyone drinks Budweiser and claims its great because they can’t afford anything else because it sure as hell comes cheap in the stores, I feel like I’m drinking bad water and you all know it so don’t deny it. Its like putting 87 gas in your car when you can put 91 gas instead because its BETTER for your car and it gives you better gas mileage. Sorry for the rant.

  1148. 4evaRaider Says:

    it looks like there will be a new pay scale in 2010,no more ridiculous 30 million guaranteed 4 someone who has never played a down.Good the way it was going it might have bankrupt the league.It will be interesting 2 see what they come up with

  1149. 4evaRaider Says:

    Fosters 4 me thankz.I like st.pauli girl too.even tho coors light out of a keg is really fun beer

  1150. saintkaufman Says:

    Interesting how the change comes after The Raiders have these high picks. Yeah, I’m paranoid!! :)

    Hey Huff. All these damn microbrews out here have really turned me away from ales. And dude the hangovers after a night of draught micro’s is brewtal! Ha. I’m all lagers for now, mostly mexican. Bud is for beer bongs.

  1151. Huff24 Says:

    hah.

  1152. saintkaufman Says:

    Man, looking at the roster for the umpteenth time, we need to sack up and go get a bona fide WR in next years draft. Hoping to land the next Colston year after year is not a good strategy.

  1153. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Hey Huff24

    and goodnite to you all…

  1154. Huff24 Says:

    Going to Santa Cruz. Peace.

  1155. Huff24 Says:

    LMN…Hey…Cya.

  1156. 408RAIDER Says:

    4eva u missed it we were talkin beers right after u left

  1157. RaiderLen Says:

    LMN…I’ve read with interest Your comments on America and Americans.

    I think Your brush strokes are Much To Broad.

    There are many Fit, agile, hungry, motivated, intelligent, members of OUR GREAT NATION.

    Statisticly…are we the fatest?…I guess…never checked. If You have, I would beg the question if it was a cross section of Our Entire Populace.

    If so I’ve got a reasonable explaination as to how this might be. (Being Fat)

    It’s called an Aging populace. “The Baby Boomers”

    I could imagine that some in America may be “living off” the reputation of the sacrifice and commitment of “Our GrandParents”

    I’d like to offer a personal insight. My Grand Dad fought in the Pacific Theater in WWII.

    He was one of MY ROLE MODELS. His example and spirit is a Measuring Rod for Me as a Man and Human Being.

    By the way My Dad was a Reserve Marine and a Police Officer.

    I’m not alone in this experience or sentiment in The USA.

    Americans are linked to their History through their ancestors.

    As a whole WE aspire to “do them proud”

    One last egotistical note. I’m damn near 48. I walk 6 to 10 miles a Day, Bench Press Over 350 lbs (for reps)…and I did it all while eating cheese burgers, hotdogs, apple pie, and washing it down with beer.

    : )

  1158. saintkaufman Says:

    Right on Len!

  1159. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 1158 408RAIDER I miss all the fun stuff.But of course I went back and read all the comments,I didnt get 2 comment but its fun,real fun just listening 2 all my brothers.BTW how are those silver shields with the “interesting” back ground colors looking???

  1160. 408RAIDER Says:

    GO Len…. I love this place

  1161. saintkaufman Says:

    Braylon Edwards, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Tory Holt, Andre Johnson, Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald, Roy Williams, Plaxico Burress, Santonio Holmes, etc, etc are all 1st round draft choices.
    You might strike it rich with a T.O. or Colston or Steve Smith in the 2nd or later rounds but we should target a top 3 talent next year at the position. I think we missed out this year.

  1162. 4evaRaider Says:

    Saintkaufman,maybe.But when you consider we got Dmac 1st round,traded our 3rd round pick this year 4 Mario Henderson last year[6-7,300]2nd year out of florida st,I believe we got DeAnglo Hall for our 2nd pick this year,got Tyvon Branch 4th round,got Trevor Scott 6th round,got Armon Shields,Chas Shillens in the 7th round.I dont think we missed out,time will tell.But I agree with you we may need 2 think about a “elite” reciever in 1st 3 rounds.I hope not because Im really high on JOHNNIE LEE HIGGANS.IMO DL or LT comes 1st

  1163. saintkaufman Says:

    There were several very good WR’s this year and instead we got another CB for our 2nd. I’m fine with the McFadden pick, would have rather had a DLineman but I’m excited to see Darren do his thing. Guess who the last WR was we took in the 1st round? That’s right, Tim Brown. 20 years ago!! Can you say HOF? For 7mil more in guaranteed money we could have made a run a Jared Allen!! Al refuses to draft DL and WR’s in the first round.

  1164. 408RAIDER Says:

    4eva

    shields look great shes been drawin 4 me since she was 4 ……

    and now the beer run

  1165. saintkaufman Says:

    In that same 20 year period we have taken 10 DB’s in the first 2 rounds! I don’t know how many we acquired for trades where we gave up a first or second on top of that.

  1166. 4evaRaider Says:

    well its 11:00 here I go play 4 an hour or so then off 2 dreamland.Next time I log on it will be around 4am your time PEACE NATION.Untill THE MORNING !!! P.S. with no new news I can see us reaching 1500 comments!!!

  1167. 408RAIDER Says:

    AL loves his DB’s thats 4 sho… Im still hopeing JLH will step up or jovans face ( & knee) holds up and he scores many TD’s 4 the NATION how sweet would that be ?? ex donkey scorin TD’s 4 the silver & black….. I hope

  1168. 4evaRaider Says:

    come on NATION dont leave 408RAIDER and Saintkaufman alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1169. 4evaRaider Says:

    I hate logging off I just know Im going 2 miss something good

  1170. saintkaufman Says:

    4eva, you could log off for a month and not miss much!! Although the military history banter was pretty good I must say!

  1171. RaiderLen Says:

    Saint…in keeping with the military theme…The Raiders D needs to Blitzkreig and the O needs to Grind it out on the ground.

    However…I’d love to see the Raiders O capable of a full aerial assault.

    Bombs…Quick Strikes…

    : )

  1172. 4evaRaider Says:

    Like 408 said,if I cant wake up and turn this site on I feel like Ill miss something.Oh what the hell Ill have another Fosters,you know the 25.9oz can.BTW Napolean Kaufman was and is my favorite RB in RAIDERS history,dude could flat out fly

  1173. Eric Farrell Says:

    AFC EAST: New England
    AFC SOUTH: Jacksonville Jaguars
    AFC NORTH: Pittsburgh Steelers
    AFC WEST: San Diego
    Wild Cards : Indianapolis (a lock), Ten, Oak, or Bal
    Byes: New England, San Diego
    Wild Card Round: Indy d. Jax
    Oak d. Pittsburgh (Since we’re in the Raider Blog I can be biased)
    Divisional round: Indy d. San Diego
    Oak d. New England
    Now would’nt that be something to see…

  1174. RaiderLen Says:

    4eva…Kaufman was a Home Run Threat…I loved that.

    One could honestly anticipate His Taking it “To the House” on any given carry.

    D Mc Fadden will provide the same kind of excitement.

    I can’t hardly wait to see it.

  1175. Eric Farrell Says:

    Even though the O struggled in games last year, they still scored and moved the ball well in others so I’m not even worried about them scoring points..it’s all on the D. T

  1176. 408RAIDER Says:

    Marcus 32 the tratior was mine till he put on the chefs hat freakin AL did my guy like that.. and seeing THE GREAT TIM BROWN in the yuks uni was even worse…..

  1177. RaiderLen Says:

    E Farrell…I’ve been sipping MY koolaid…and I like the way You think.

  1178. 408RAIDER Says:

    Ill admit I wanted C.Long but now that we have Mcfadden I’m way excited to see what the kid can do hes a bigger stronger Nap…. with the 3 headed monster we are going to be fun to watch… ufck the chokers Its our turn to burn the west 4 200 + yards a game ………. :P

  1179. 408RAIDER Says:

    200 + ruishing yards… the Negra Modelo”s are working

  1180. 4evaRaider Says:

    yeah that whole marcus really hit me hard.Kaufman wasnt even heard of then,everyone loved marcus.That amazing run against the hogs on superbowl is what legends are made of.I guess marcus and AD were a million apart and both were soooooo stubborn,both wouldnt budge.Man marcus killed me when he went 2 the squaws,I hate the squaws more than any team in any sport.I hate the color red.UFCK THE SQUAWS,UFCK THE DONKEYS UFCK THE CHOCKERS.GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1181. RaiderLen Says:

    Hey 408…C Long would have been cool too.

    I agree that DMac is an improved version of Nap.

    Size, Hands, Instinct…etc

  1182. 408RAIDER Says:

    Len

    WTF are we gonna do till camp starts…

    4eva thats what Im talkin bout

  1183. 4evaRaider Says:

    RaiderLen Trevor Scott taken in 6th round has a faster 40 time than C.long a higher vertical leap,bench presses more.IT woulod have been interesting if Long was still there at #4.I still think AD would have taken DMAC,and thats who I wanted,I bloged many times on that one but I think THE NATION might have turned on AD.Every one was thinking Howies kid,but if you think about it he would never score a TD.And I think this Scott will be better than Long.Time will tell

  1184. RaiderLen Says:

    408…drink beer…bs…drink some more beer…speculate…drink some more beer…tell MR He’s a Trolling 9er fan…you know…the usuall. :)

  1185. 4evaRaider Says:

    I think me and Dokota were the only ones who wanted DMAC.MR said if AD took DMAC he would NEVER comment here again,but he wears 49er jammies

  1186. 4evaRaider Says:

    We all do sure think alike dont we brothers!!!!!!!!!!

  1187. RaiderLen Says:

    4eva…That sounds good to Me. Whatever it takes to get the Raiders back on track.

    As a side note, I’d LOVE for Scott to be better than C Long. It will make the Raiders look REALLY smart.

    By the way MY prefference is DMac as well..though I would certainly would have understood a C Long selection had He been available.

  1188. RaiderLen Says:

    4eva…My recollection is that Tommy Trojan pimped Dmac awfully hard as well.

  1189. RaiderLen Says:

    Good Night Nation!

  1190. 4evaRaider Says:

    I agree.Well this time since i have beer comming out my ears,I really am going 2 bed Its 12:12 here,RaiderLen,408RAIDER thank you 4 the stimulating conversation,Ill be back around 7:00 my time 4:00 your time.Good Night BROS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1191. 408RAIDER Says:

    there is still another Long and he plays OT 1 can only hope

  1192. 408RAIDER Says:

    night nation c ya 2marrow

  1193. MR Says:

    4evaRaider, did your dad have any kids that weren’t gay?

  1194. MR Says:

    Eric Farrel, you think we have a chance to be a wild card? Do you see jesus on toast, too?

  1195. MR Says:

    Hey, about the bet with Dakota. I lied to him. Big deal. I respect the respectable. Dakota? Come on. I’m here. Deal with me, ladies.

  1196. Johnny Rebel Says:

    MR wishes he were a white Raiders fan.

  1197. La Milicia Negra Says:

    RaiderLen…

    of course there are fit americans…you are 300M so there are enough to take of… but you are by no comparison the fattest! you got 24M diabetics due to obesity…24M!!! thats 8%!!! and you have 20% obesity, thats 60M fatties, every two roughly speaking is diabetics… But DK is the main producer of insulin so eat away guys and girls =)

  1198. La Milicia Negra Says:

    RaiderLen…

    Whoops!
    those numbers were way too small, 1/3 or 33% of the US population are considered obese thats 100M thats just freaky!

    “A key factor in many chronic illnesses is obesity and smoking. About 33 percent of Americans are obese, compared with 17 percent in 10 European countries reviewed. More than half of Americans are former or current smokers, compared with about 43 percent in the European sample.”

    you had 8% diabetics, here in DK we got 4% or 220K, thats too many, for several years we were at 2%…

    Most text I got on the subject are in Danish, but I found this in English..

    newsmax.com/insidecover/U.S._obese/2007/10/02/37381.html

  1199. La Milicia Negra Says:

    RaiderLen..

    I think its great you Grand father was Helping out during WW2… But even that he was your role model, most of those vets haven’t been role models for your fathers generation, and your generation is lost because of it…(by that I mean they haven’t been asked to be role models)

    I can say the same thing about Danish kids below the age of 18… they don’t know sh1t, and I find this very worrying, we call it “americanization”…

    If you had good role models you wouldn’t have the highest rate of inmates per capita, you wouldn’t have so much violence in your streets and so on… but of course that doesn’t mean most americans didn’t grow up in a great environment… But it sure means a big percentage of them didn’t…

  1200. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning NATION,Good Morning MR

  1201. La Milicia Negra Says:

    .reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL2853704320080628

    crap!

  1202. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Good Morning 4eva..

  1203. 4evaRaider Says:

    2 points;First,MR I didnt have a dad,Im Omnipotent Second,Good Morning La Milicia Negra.The reason we americans have the highest rate of inmate population is we didnt learn the lessons of Prohibition.Over 56% of of that population is because of non-violent offences or in other words,our RETARDED WAR ON DRUGS,started by a retarded president who I posted earlier,was an actor who played second fiddle 2 a monkey.We spend Billions,kill millions of forigners on their own soil.Because of the misguided right-wing leaning republican moralistic police the whole world is ufcked up.I posted earlier that every time a republican gets elected with their holyier than thou attitude we go straight 2 hell.When oh when will my country wake up???All the good men that died because of prohibition are now dieing from the war on drugs.The gov.needs 2 get the hell out of peoples personal lives,you know,kinda like the GOOD gov of the Netherlands.Who cares if someone wants 2 smoke a joint or shoot smack?If they are in the privacy of their own home let them.I thought people fled England was to get away from the Kings MEN.A mans house is his castle kind of thing.Ill stop here,but I could go on 4 days

  1204. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”A man charged with beating and kidnapping Javon Walker is being held Friday on bail $86,000. Arfat Fadel’s lawyer said he probably couldn’t make the bail. Fadel, who was apparently using his girlfriend’s car at the time of the robbery, is not cooperating to reveal who the other person with him that night was.
    Jun. 28 – 9:04 a.m. ET”—

  1205. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Teyo goes to Canada!!

    I really liked him, but he wasn’t good enough…. a wasted 2nd rounder…

  1206. Terrapin Says:

    **Allow Terrapin to disturb all the BS on this board and get to some real talk, if only for a few seconds.**

    Jason Jones makes an observation in his blog today that we all have said one way or another time and time again. That is – This Defense is where all the proven talent lies. Our most talented players are on the defense (in no particular order: NA, DH, GW, DB, TK, KM, TH). At face value, there’s absolutely NO reason why this defense should suck as they have in the past. But as I try to really rank them (you should try to objectively rank too so you’ll get the idea of what I’m saying – it forces you to really objectively think about the players) I find that most of these talents are incomplete. But which team’s talents are?

    1. NNAMDI – without a question is the most complete for his position. The best cover corner in the game and not a bad tackler either.

    2. BURGESS – I’ll give him the nod here (thinking about BHP’s memos as I typed that). BHP and few others have came to Burgess’ defense regarding his run support. I have my doubts but I’ll give way for now. All else being equal, he’s an exceptional pass rush.

    3. HALL – Very young Probowler with a lot of talent. He’ll be targeted if Nnamdi’s ready for the season. He has lapses during the game – whether its gambling or what have you but my opinion before was that he’s overrated and nothing has changed to change that opinion. But that’s not to say the boy isn’t damn good – just not the best as he would proclaim.

    4. HOWARD – Above Kirk? Yeah, I’ll give it to him. He’s a much better athlete and both are great in coverage. But he like Kirk suffer in run support.

    5. MORRISON – Great in coverage, lacking in run support. But then again, you don’t really know until you get some damn good DTs in front of them (see Ray Lewis’ complaints)

    6. WILSON – By default he must fit in here. Don’t know a whole lot about him except what I read. Great run support. Not sure about coverage – a gambler. He’ll be in for some heavy duty run support this year. Hope he holds up.

    7. KELLY – Why Kelly this low in comparison? Because no one can truly, with absolute confidence, guarantee that TK will be a beast at the 3tech if he has yet consistently been in the 3tech. I’m not doubting the boy has talent. Just saying we can’t really bank on it until we at least see it on the field (although I have seen some amazing plays by him outside the 3)

    Our Best defenders deficiencies: NA(none), DB(maybe run support), Hall (gambler, hence inconsistent), TH/KM (run support), Wilson (maybe coverage), Kelly (?)

    Damn – didn’t mean to go all over with this it just progressed that way. But I will say this: The proven talents on this team are on the defensive side of the ball. The only problem as I see it is: We have talent on the edges, talent in the middle of the field, but we are lacking talent in the middle of the line. Does this lack of skill at DT justify this whole defense falling apart is the question (?)

    Your answer to that question is a partial, if not complete, answer to the true abilities of these defensive coaches.

  1207. Terrapin Says:

    If your answer is “NO” …the poor DT play should not justify bottom dweller rankings then these Defensive coaches suck ass@! If your answer is “YES” ….a yes answer can have qualifications or an it will fall apart but within reason sort of qualification – then some leniency should be given ….the degrees of which is subjective.

  1208. Terrapin Says:

    Can’t forget the impact of Huff playing SS in past years.

  1209. Dakota Says:

    We should have drafted Red Bryant.

  1210. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Terrapin…

    yup I’ve rad it…

    have you read this?

    arsnonline.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5539

  1211. La Milicia Negra Says:

    hmm Caroline Wozniacki lost to the world ranked 3 Jelena Jancovic…. I guess that still means she will advance on the list… I don’t know how it works =)

  1212. Terrapin Says:

    Onto the OFFENSE: A LOT of unprovens here so ranking them is even more stupid than ranking the defenders….

    (based on sheer talent alone)

    1. MCFADDEN – He can run, catch and play some QB. Needs to work on his center of gravity though (balance …lower shoulders, build legs). He seems a little to off tilt with his current running style.

    2. BUSH – Another who can run, catch and pass. McFadden over him based solely on speed but its neck-n-neck. This is one big muthaf*er!

    3. JaMARCUS RUSSELL – No. 3 ranking? Ignorance on my part? Maybe. But Bush/McF goes above because they do it all. However, make no mistake about it, the world revolves around Russell.

    4. MILLER – He’s going to be the 2nd coming of the Ghost. Not as good but he’ll still be well above average to great.

    5. COOPERC – Consistency

    6. JAVON WALKER – When healthy

    7. JUSTIN FARGAS – Delivers …gives it his all ..what more can you ask for

    A trend? Maybe its wishful thinking on my part or maybe its true but to me at least it looks like the most talent on the offense are with our young guns (MB,DM,JR,ZM). These are all players that Kiffin drafted; and although its extremely early, they look to be amongst the best “talents” in the League at their respective positions – unproven of course.

    This says to me: Just give Kiffin the time he needs (with due pressure of course to perform) because this thing he’s building could be HUGE! (I’m getting ahead of myself but with this ‘preliminary’ level of talent I’m thinkin’ multiple championships).

  1213. Terrapin Says:

    That is with this ‘preliminary’ level of talent projecting forward (new acquisitions) I’m thinkin’ multiple championships.

    - Peace

  1214. La Milicia Negra Says:

    29. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, Oakland Raiders: DeAngelo Hall might get more attention on the other side this season, but Asomugha is a better player. He’s been overlooked for the past two seasons.

    sportsline.com/nfl/story/10877567

  1215. Andrews mom Says:

    The loafers running jerrys blog deserve a severe tounge lashing from lowbeam like he gave shack.

  1216. Andrews mom Says:

    John Wayne and Rock Hudsun starring in the undefeated on AMC right now.

  1217. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR Says:
    June 17th, 2008 at 11:52 am
    # BART Bridge Balla Says:
    June 17th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    MR isn’t a racist, he hates everybody.

    ………

    You know? I can agree with that. I don’t hate everyone, literally, but I do hate most people. I believe the human race has peaked and is on it’s way down the sewer, and there’s absolutely no stopping it. So, yeh, I’ll take that label.

    MR Says:
    June 28th, 2008 at 12:09 am
    Hey, about the bet with Dakota. I lied to him. Big deal. I respect the respectable. Dakota? Come on. I’m here. Deal with me, ladies.

    ..
    Enuff said, also a gutless man

  1218. Andrews mom Says:

    Give us a new blog you lousy two bit novices.
    Between the two of you, you would not make a pimple on jerrys butt

  1219. Andrews mom Says:

    Thanks for sharing that but nobody here on this overdue abortion called a blog thought he was noble& righteous.

  1220. Andrews mom Says:

    This is a good western. Lots of pretty southern belles in it.
    Next up is Eldorado with John and Robert Mitchum. I always liked Mitchum.

  1221. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Judge in Javon case a 15 yr Charger seaon ticket holder. lol
    http://www.tmz.com/2008/06/27/judge-in-javon-walker-case-go-chargers/

  1222. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    oops, season

  1223. angryhendricks Says:

    This Walker thing is totally screwed. How is this guy gonna be ready for cam. Is he wearing a red untouchable jersey like jammy?

    This guy is an alcoholic or drug addict. Getting into the borrowed car of some dirtbag that cant raise 8 grand to spring himself from jail. And I can see Javon on the witness stand-uh, I don’t remember your honor I was totally wasted.

    What a sad story this guy is. Like my boy said-he’s a tard, but as long as he scores td’s. Well, this guy should be made an example of to save this team. Let him go!

  1224. 4evaRaider Says:

    Defence;We only have 3 players over 300lbs.Warren,Sands,Joseph.I dont think we have the beef 2 play a 4-3.Warren at 330lbs is the big guy.In a 3-4,we could put Warren on the nose.Burgess and Kelly on the ends.I dont know if Irons is ready,but lets assume he is.We could put Irons and Hartwell in the middle.Now comes a million diffrent possibilites.At 6-6 Jay Richardson could play strong side next 2 Irons,kinda like Mad Stork;tall long arms 2 bat down passes.On weak side Trevor Scott could play next 2 Hartwell.He is faster than C.Long that some here wanted.I think he could be a sack machine.I know,I know all of you are saying what about,T.Howard,R.Thomas,R.Brown,K.Morrison,S.Wialliams? This is where the game would decide whos on field.Like I said,it seems were more of a 3-4 than a 4-3.What does THE NATION think??????????????

  1225. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 1221 Andrews Mom says;Wow thanks,Eldorado with Wayne and Mitchum is one of the ALLTIME GREATS.I love that movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1226. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 1222,good morning EXLA.I hear the judge is going 2 move Walkers court date to 12-04-08,the thursday we play the chockers

  1227. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Morning 4evaRaider. I hope he doesn’t have money on the game. lol

  1228. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I’m really surprised bail was so low as the suspects had been stalking Walker for hours. The suspects girlfriend had been packing at their home as they were being evicted in 3 days.

  1229. 408RAIDER Says:

    Morning Nation… ufck the donkeys……..

  1230. 408RAIDER Says:

    u guys read the police report jovan left a piece @ss to get in the car with 2 dudes… thats gay

  1231. 4evaRaider Says:

    EXLA;this smells bad,and its REALLY starting 2 smell worse.I know now they will be set free,with the judge scolding Arfat 4 being stupid 4 getting caught and not finishing the job!!! Good Morning 408;Gay would be correct!!!

  1232. 408RAIDER Says:

    morning 4eva checkin in b4 I take the princess to get a hair cut …..
    Terrapin nice posts

  1233. 4evaRaider Says:

    408RAIDER;AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

  1234. RaiderKC Says:

    Hopefully Al can swing a trade with Detroit, Chicago and New Orleans. If they are desperate for a veteran RB and don’t want to miss out with Jordan signing else where then maybe we can land a WR (Williams or Horn) and dump that J-12 Walker. There has to be some clause for off field activity to save him some money. Or even sign Koren Robinson. I can’t see Walker being ready for contact football in one month after receiving facial fractures. Cut our losses if Al can p/u a decent WR.

  1235. Dakota Says:

    Obama’s tax changes will not adversely affect the average American according to this article:

    (http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/27/news/economy/obama_wealthy_taxes/index.htm?postversion=2008062809)

    I am a Republican and I am leaning Obama…I can’t believe it.

  1236. 4evaRaider Says:

    Years ago a buddy of mine got jumped and got a broken jaw,not multiple,about the least break one could get.It was wired shut for 6 weeks.After 6 weeks the wire was removed.about 4-6 MORE weeks he said it finally didnt hurt with every step he took.The word from the RAIDERS front office IS:They fully expect Walker 2 be ready 4 camp.To me that statement wasnt 4 the press,it was an ultimatium 4 Walker: BE ready OR ELSE!!!

  1237. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    not to rip up in a old discussion, but regarding lend lease….

    The US has done the same thing to finance the war on terror… but in reverse…

    The US has borrowed 600B from the Chinese and 200B from Japan…. which means you now are forced to trade with them as we were forced to trade with you for over 30 years with you….

    who is worlds greatest nation, now? is the american empire’s downfall begun??

    it took us over 30 year to payback the loan, how many generation will it take for the US to pay back to its former enemies?

  1238. La Milicia Negra Says:

    hmm one ‘with you’ too many =)

  1239. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    I am taking Chinese lessons to prep for the new world order.

  1240. Dakota Says:








    的。

  1241. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning Dakota,The GOP aint what it used 2 be[whatever they were]I can tell by youre post you are prolly one of the smartest guys here.If I would have known you were republican, before youre last post,Iwouldnt have believed it.Somewhere the GOP lost its way,like trying 2 regulate npeoples personal lives.I dont have all the answers but,THIS is what MAKES OUR COUNTRY GREAT.IF you dont like the ones in office THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!!!!!Like in last congressional elections.Also Red BRYANT is lookin good 2 me 2

  1242. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    Yeah, I better start too =)

  1243. Dakota Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    June 28th, 2008 at 10:40 am

    I can tell by youre post you are prolly one of the smartest guys here.
    —————————————————

    I agree 4eva!

  1244. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota..

    we got tons of chinese learning english here… its one of our most profiting classes where they come for a year to learn english and one subclass…engineering, logistics, pharmaceutical engineering and so on… So perhaps we are lucky that we can stick to english and they can talk behind our backs in chinese =)

  1245. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    could Where is my spellcheck?

  1246. 4evaRaider Says:

    BEER RUN ,so i dont have 2 go out again in heat I B BAK

  1247. Al 4 Prez Says:

    Dakota – You don’t have to go Obama. You have a choice – vote for Al!

    You are wrong about Obama not affecting the ‘average American ‘

    I can explain in detail. If you are interested email me marc @ webservicesmedia.com

    Go Raiders.

  1248. Bob Marley Says:

    There are different degrees of damage in facial injuries, Ben Roethlisberger broke his lower and upper jaws as well as his nose and other facial bones after his motorcycle accident in 06.

    His accident was on June 13th and his surgery lasted 7 hours, he was probably in worst shape than Walker and he didn´t miss any training camp practice time and started in Pitt´s 1st pre-season game.

    “training camp won´t even be an issue” says Kiffin, he should know better than any of us.

    Also, you can´t terminate a player´s contract because he was beaten and robbed, you can blame him for bad judgement but truth is, he did nothing wrong and certainly nothing illegal.

  1249. Raider O Says:

    LMN,

    what a game, Germany wins in the last minutes.

  1250. Raider O Says:

    Whats going on nation? I missed all of last week news.

  1251. Bob Marley Says:

    “I’m not going to judge Javon. He’s been through stuff few of us can imagine. He’s really a good guy. I just hope the best for him.”

    That´s former teammate John Lynch, maybe some of you should do the same.

  1252. RaiderKC Says:

    Okay, Bob…Walker is a train wreck. Everyone said it, even his friends say he needs help. He may have passed a physical exam, but he possibly has mental issues that can effect his game. Also,if his face hurts, you don’t think he may be a bit gun shy and not want to get hit? The joker has everything to prove this year and live up to the big $$ paid to him! He should have been in in the bay area studying his plays, running routes with the QB and working out to drop the lbs that his coach wanted him to do. I’m sorry he got hurt, no one should suffer that, but he put himself in the situation and he is a grown man, not a rookie out of college!!! He was to be the best WR on the team and he should all of us how much he really cares so the hell with him, he has no excuse for his conduct. If I were paid millions of dollars and the WR face of a great franchise I’d expect all of you to judge me by my actions as I do of his! So I will not lay off him until he has redeemed himself…

  1253. RaiderKC Says:

    sorry – showed all of us

  1254. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Walker is not insane, he is a thug. I wonder how much money in incentives it will cost him to miss the first game.

  1255. Huff24 Says:

    Bob Marley – You’re a Gentleman and a Scholar.

    When are we going to set up our fantasy football teams?

  1256. MR Says:

    Marley, you’re right from your end, Walker’s critics are right from theirs. They’re just being realistic, that’s all. You’re treating Javon like he’s your son. That’s cool. Having faith that he’ll pull it together, whatever. A lot of us are just calling it as we see it. We don’t hate the guy. I just never thought he was that great to begin with. This is a business, Marley. The Raiders got that in the ’70s. All of those reclamation projects never would have stepped foot here if they weren’t good football players, and RELIABLE, too. Back in those days, teams cut players because their hair was too long. The cultural backlash of the ’60s was still ripe. We picked them up and the result was magic. But that’s not the case today. Some guys are just outright out of control. The closest thing we had to that in the ’70s was Warren Wells and the Tooz. And look at what happened with them. Once Warren Wells was arrested, he was cut. Once the Tooz went after Terry Robiskie with his freakin’ crutch, he was gone. He missed the ‘83 Super Bowl run. That Raiders organization drew a line. This one doesn’t. What’s missing? I don’t know. If I say Ron Wolf, I’m in love with him. And then everyone’s asking me how their asses taste. So fine, I won’t mention him. But whoever it was, Al needs someone like him again. Enjoy your Saturday.

  1257. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 1253 Exactly,i agree no body that does no harm 2 anyone else should have 2 go through that.So untill he redeems himself,like RaiderKC rightfully says I wont lay-off him either.Also BOB MARLEY did roethlisberger have a broke orbital bone???

  1258. Huff24 Says:

    Walker is far from a thug. He was in a car that got shot up by thugs and he was robbed by thugs. If anything, this makes him a victim to thug related activity. He hangs out with people, he gets shot at, he doesn’t hang out with people, he gets robbed. Hes obviously just trying to find a way to have a good time and its not working out all the time. Everyone has a past that has bad memories and situations so stop point the finger and acting innocent.

  1259. Bob Marley Says:

    KC…

    He has no excuse for his conduct? what conduct exactly?.

    He was in Oklanad working out all week in the OTA wasn´t he?. Do you think he was the only Raider who left town over the weekend and partied with his friends?.

    The only reason this became a story is because he was robbed and beaten, hundreds of NFL players were partying all across the country that weekend and hundres will party tonight…and no one will complain or notice unless they end up as the victim of a violent crime, or even worse, if they commit a crime themselves.

  1260. Huff24 Says:

    McFadden isn’t considered a thug right now even though he has some recent “thug” related activity. If he doesn’t play well within these next 2 years…I’m going to bet that people start to call him a thug because they don’t like him as a player. People will always change their story to their benefit. Thats reality. People will say, we should have never drafted him because he was obviously a thug and he can’t play and so on.

  1261. 4evaRaider Says:

    Also Bob Marley;I dont know if Walker had any preformance clauses in his contract.True you cant be cut for being a victim But does no preformance=no money???

  1262. Huff24 Says:

    Matt Leinart was partying with underage girls. What a thug!

  1263. MR Says:

    As far as Walker being a thug…there’s that word, again. Why not just come right out and call him a N*gger? It’s so obvious now that’s all that word means. I never hear it used to describe whites…like the hundreds of white people in that photo where Javon is spraying the champagne. They’re engaging in the same behavior he is, yet they aren’t thugs. They’re just a bunch of idiot kids out having a good time. Guess what, so is Javon. But don’t let me get in the way of your latent, passive aggressive racism and the verbal diarrhea that comes out of it.

  1264. Huff24 Says:

    4evaRaider – Its not like that with rookie contracts so why would it be any different for someone like Walker, who has performed well in the past?

  1265. Johnny Rebel Says:

    I don’t rememebr that many reclamation projects in the 70’s. Everybody had long hair in the 70’s but the military. Tooz retired after the 81 season because he did not want to play anymore. Ron Wolf learned from Al Davis but would not have been a nobody without a great quarterback. The holes keep blowing through your b.s. MR.

  1266. Bob Marley Says:

    Huff24

    I´d say we set it up by the end of July and wait until late August for the Draft, I hate to draft players who end up injured in a preseason game or in training camp.

    What do you think?.

  1267. Johnny Rebel Says:

    It’s always o.k. for you to bash white people MR but when its thrown in your face you whine like a little girl.

  1268. MR Says:

    # Huff24 Says:
    June 28th, 2008 at 11:45 am

    Matt Leinart was partying with underage girls. What a thug!

    …..

    Exactly, man. But it won’t do any good. People who use the word thug to primarily describe blacks are doing it to antagonize, and they aren’t going to stop any time soon. That’s the beauty of the internet. It gives people a place to vent on things that they’re too much of punks to vent on in the real world. Let them have their word thug. Let them have that release from their anger. God forbid they get up on that tower with a rifle and start picking off blacks on the street. Better they let it out in here.

  1269. Johnny Rebel Says:

    I never have known a racial overtone for the word thug or who it applies to. Just more b.s. you try to push on everyone in here.

  1270. Huff24 Says:

    Bob Marley – Sounds good.

    I’m off to enjoy the day. Peace.

  1271. MR Says:

    # Johnny Rebel Says:
    June 28th, 2008 at 11:55 am

    “I never have known a racial overtone for the word thug or who it applies to.”

    ….

    Well, Rebel, as they say…denial’s the first phase of a real problem.

  1272. Johnny Rebel Says:

    In fact “being a thug” is a good way to describe someone throwing cocktails on everyone in the bar.

  1273. MR Says:

    I’m out of here too, guys. Later.

  1274. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Or getting into a car with two known thugs. The one they have in custody is not black.

  1275. Dakota Says:

    I am not being racist or anything, but the world would be a better place without soccer, golf and nascar fans.

  1276. Johnny Rebel Says:

    MR tucks his tail and runs when you counter all his b.s. with logic and proof.

  1277. 4evaRaider Says:

    Huff24,I am ignorant when it comes 2 contracts,not to be rude but thats why I was asking,enjoy your day!!!

  1278. The Dude Says:

    Nascar and cricket are the 2 worst sports around. I love soccer and golf though but i really do not understand why anybody can enjoy cars going in a circle. watch formula 1 if u like racing.

  1279. 4evaRaider Says:

    THUG; noun:a violent,brutal person.Example;look at those young men beat and rob that old man

  1280. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Man Greg Hancock is great tonight… Still hope he’lll lose =)

  1281. 4evaRaider Says:

    La Milicia,if youre still here read post 1225 and tell me what you think,if you will

  1282. 4evaRaider Says:

    alls quiet

  1283. RaiderKC Says:

    Yes, his conduct! As I wrote he has so many people against him (press, etc) that he needs to prove wrong. Coach said he’s over weight, he’s in a new offense as the lead WR with a 1st year (basically rookie) QB and he needed to stay home. He’s got money obviously and he could have had the honeys/buddies over to his house where he can check anyone there! I’m not saying he’s a thug, but he is an adult who should have acted like one. If I was sprayed with booze at a club I’d knocked him out too!

  1284. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    raider KC what’s up? When do tickets come out for 9-14?

    CT RAIDer

  1285. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Just look what his old running mate is doing in Denver, he is a thug too.
    http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_9712776?source=commented-news

  1286. Huff24 Says:

    People…Its a freakin party. A club! When you win a Championship, you get out the champagne bottles and spray them all over the place. Its not a crime. Did anybody come out of the club and say they were pissed off that they got sprayed? Everyone in that place was probably too drunk to give a crap. If anything, they probably opened their mouths to catch as much alcohol as possible. I think everyone was having a good time. I think the robbery had to do with someone knowing who he was and knowing he has alot of money.

    Walker is only 29. Hes still young. Does everyone in here act like an adult 24/7? The only fault of his was not having a couple of friends with him. You should never walk around Las Vegas alone. I’ve heard that gangs are picking up in Vegas and that there have been shootings in the open from 2 different gangs who were across the street from each other. Is the person who got shot in the middle of a cross fire an idiot for not protecting themselves better? Sh!t happens…it could have been anybody.

  1287. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Yes the personin the crossfire is an idiot for being there in the first place. It’s pretty simple, stay away from gang related establishments.

  1288. Oakglenn Says:

    MR (or MoRon as he likes to be called) brings up an interesting intellectual point about the socio-economic differences between certain social strata, sometimes, but not every time, seperated by race.

    In certain instances it isn’t race at all but more of the urban culture surrounding this strata in which art, theater and music provide the catalyst which defines this strata.
    That being said, MoRon no doubt has heard some recent urban music propelled by pro athletes. This is the perfect symbiosis of urban culture, big business (the NFL)and urban art. In other words How does my ass taste MR??

  1289. Oakglenn Says:

    I’ll bet you guys didn’t know I could be such an intellectual??

  1290. Huff24 Says:

    Crime happens everywhere.

  1291. RealityCheck Says:

    You guys crack me up.

  1292. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Oakglenn you elitist!

  1293. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Have you seen the article on Yahoo about Al Davis.

    I have tried posting the link but I to won’t let me.

  1294. SilverNblack666 Says:

    http://

    sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AsZzEXVBXfXehC1ZyRF6RRpDubYF?slug=jc-davishavingdoubts062708&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

  1295. K-Rock Says:

    Jason Cole’s story sounds like a lot of conjecture and possibly some outright lies.

    Several media sources have told me within the last week that Jason Cole is lazy and tries to stir up hits on his second rate Yahoo Sports articles by making up stories.

  1296. SilverNblack666 Says:

    well K-Rock I think you are dead on and I can name a few other reporters who act the same way (Nancy Gay Ann Killion etc.)

    Typical rumor mongering.

  1297. La Milicia Negra Says:

    hmmm PFT bashing Jason Cole’s (Yahoo) article….

  1298. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 10:32 am

    ^^^^

    sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-davishavingdoubts062708&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
    _________________________________________________________

    funny thing, I posted this the 27th and its only now its getting any attention…

  1299. LosT Says:

    SAPP INTERVIEW:

    Not sure if this was already posted, but interesting answer when asked about his RAIDER experience…

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/28/SPQJ11G4LI.DTL

  1300. LosT Says:

    O and go SPAIN!!

  1301. LosT Says:

    HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE RAIDERS?

    Warren Sapp -

    “As dark as a black hole. Stuff went on in that organization that shouldn’t to on in sports. I don’t think there’s one person who knows who or what is making the call. Let’s just say the Oakland experience is unique. The phone rings quite a bit on that sideline. Insubordination is grounds for termination in any company.”

  1302. 408RAIDER Says:

    when the ufck r we gonna get a new thread????

  1303. Huff24 Says:

    Never…we will be forced to live a real life.

  1304. Snake 12 Says:

    Maybe we should make up a new thread ourselves. Here, I’ll start. MR is a gay phony whiner fan.

  1305. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    How about my moniker as a thread

  1306. Vann Mcelroy Says:

    I don’t know why but it sucks to hear Sapp say that about his experience with the Raiders. I admire Sapp, he spent his years with the Raiders when we were absolutely terrible and he didn’t say much. He was a loyal soldier throught the tough times. The organization was an absolute disgrace to professional sports. I hope Al reads that, He is accountable for that. At some point it would be refreshing to hear Al accept some accountability. I love the Raiders anyway and always will. They better keep Kiffin, I think we are going to win 9 or 10 games this season. We need one more wide receiver, and we need to sign the center, Bently.

  1307. LosT Says:

    Mcelroy,

    Lends creadence to what Washington and Stuart were saying…Oh well , just win.

  1308. Dakota Says:

    Smoke from the Cali fires has arrived on my doorstep here in the Black Hills.

    Can’t you liberals keep your forests from burning?

  1309. Huff24 Says:

    Dakota – Try breathing it. We have a health warning out here because of the smoke in the air.

  1310. Dakota Says:

    That is my point, I am breathing it…it is all the way out here!

    I can’t imagine what it is like for you guys.

    Stay safe.

    Thin your forests too!

  1311. Hate Has No Place In Here Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 28th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
    “Smoke from the Cali fires has arrived on my doorstep here in the Black Hills.

    Can’t you liberals keep your forests from burning?”

    Just as soon as all of you ignorant right wing conservatives drop dead. I wish it was McCain that was burning with Obama holding the match.

    Seriously though, you are an insensetive a$$hole that likes to make light of other people’s misfortunes and death. I bet you had some zingers after Hurricane Katrina. Karma is a b*tch and apparently so are you.

  1312. Hate Has No Place In Here Says:

    It’s called lightning genius. It’s what started the majority of the fires in Northern California. Do some research before you spout off like a jacka$$.

  1313. Dakota Says:

    You want McCain burned alive, but I am an insensitive a-hole for saying thin your forests???

    Lol.

  1314. Dakota Says:

    Go save a whale, hug a tree and then abort a baby…that is your SOP isn’t it?

  1315. Oakglenn Says:

    Let me see if I can clarify this discussion about the wild fires here.

  1316. Dakota Says:

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    how long is this going to take?

  1317. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    typical liberal do as I say not as I do, and they are gutless,feeeeeeel gooooood

  1318. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    typical liberal “drilling will not help” ok lets drive to work in mass transit, oh I forgot mass transit goes nowhere, so ride a bike/oh I forgot we need bike lanes to, oh I forgot nuclear is to dangerous, oh I forgot let use wind and sun, oh I forgot its only windy in states that are using no solar, liberals or progressives yuck, junk feel good lovers.

  1319. Oakglenn Says:

    sorry looks like I am banned from posting again

  1320. Dakota Says:

    Well Jerry, I tried to get the comments going again, but it looks like all the liberals are out smoking pot or aborting babies and I am stuck here with trolls.

    lol

  1321. Oakglenn Says:

    maybe that’s what all that smoke is. Maybe Willie Nelsons tour bus just cruised by.

  1322. Oakglenn Says:

    Maybe I am going to have to do this line by line, unfortunately.
    That smoke pouring ove the Black Hills isn’t from the forest fires, it’s the smoke Bush and Cheney have been spewing out their asses for the last 8 years.

  1323. Oakglenn Says:

    Let’s see if this posts.

  1324. McCain's Best Fundraiser Says:

    Dakota: Keep talking! Keep talking! The RNC believes that if you keep lying furiously and consistently enough, most Americans will believe your BS and will vote accordingly! We love you! Don’t weaken now, we’re really going to need you when we pull our October Suprise!

  1325. McCain's Best Fundraiser Says:

    Where are you, darn it? Yes, liberals have caused all the forest fires in the country! They always have! Tree huggers are guilty of bestiality! Well, not exactly, but it’s the same idea! Dakota! Don’t leave your party in the lurch! John, they’ve left us! I don’t know where, but I’m confused! John? John!!!

  1326. MR Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    June 28th, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Maybe I am going to have to do this line by line, unfortunately.
    That smoke pouring ove the Black Hills isn’t from the forest fires, it’s the smoke Bush and Cheney have been spewing out their asses for the last 8 years.

    ……

    Oakglenn, how can someone be so incredibly wrong about the Raiders yet so incredibly right about politics?

    I owe you one, so here it is.

    Al Davis made a good move with Gibril Wilson. Gibril’s play may actually add a few wins. Dude’s a huge, huge upgrade. We’ve got a real shot at 8-8. If all of those Kiffin rumors turn out to be false, we’re a playoff team in ‘09. But I have to admit; I fear that’s a huge if…

  1327. McCain's Best Fundraiser Says:

    MR: Are you a Republican ally? We need you if you are. And as to the Raiders, I am terrified about the LT position, the one position on the team that I have little hope for. Any ideas? Harris? Really?

  1328. MR Says:

    Huff, stop responding the latent, passive aggressive racists in here who throw the word thug at every single black person who sneezes in the wrong direction. They’re doing it to antagonize, plain and simple. These guys don’t have the balls to tell black people in real life how they fell, so they come in here and let it out. Just ignore them. That’s what I do. If I want to hear sexually deprived white guys incessantly cry about black athletes, I can listen to sports talk radio any time I want.

  1329. MR Says:

    Offensive line is still an issue, and the ZBS isn’t the answer to everything. We caught a few teams off guard with that last year. They’ll prepare for it better this year. We’ve got to mix it up, and, yes, our line has to give Russell time, as defenses are going to blitz him relentlessly. If all the Kiffingate drama is false, and I really hope it is, I believe all this stuff will be worked out. If the Kiffin drama is true, and Kiffin’s gone after this year? Lofton? * sigh.

    And, if you know me or my politics, you’ll know that I’m pretty f’n far from being a Republican ally. Haven’t had much use for that party since the “Southern Strategy”.

  1330. MR Says:

    Well, if you believe global warming played a role in the fires, you’re nuts. But if you believe some invisible man in the sky could have started them, you’re a Christian.

  1331. McCain's Best Fundraiser Says:

    I can’t say I know you much at all. This is no insult, most on this site say you should not be addressed at all. But I agree with you about the O-line, and those who are predicting a 90-0 win over the Donkeys are not facing reality at all. I hope we win, but it will be close…

  1332. CopenhagenFan Says:

    Dakota….your political perspective is pretty much the same as the Raiders fans who talk about the “greatness of the Raiders” and Al Davis.

    World War II is over a half a century ago. The United States is now lead by a half-witted, illiterate born again Christian buffoon, with a foreign policy that only erodes the true values and real interests of Americans and their nation.

    Yeah America did their part in WWII, which had benefits for Europe. But look at everything we have done since???

    Now take an honest look at the educational system, the destruction of the environment, the killing, poverty, racism etc. Are those American values?

    The problem is that Americans think they are the best in the world. I love the true American spirit and the attitude that is truly unique, but we have to look at the facts, and the fact is that the U.S. is moving AWAY from it’s true values and falling like a bloated, confused, disfuntional post-Roman Empire.

    The rest of the world has adopted many American values and now it’s time that the U.S. considered adopting some new values itself before it’s too late.

  1333. McCain's Best Fundraiser Says:

    Copenhagenfan: John would be very angry with me for saying this, but I agree with you. Let’s keep it our secret, OK? Americans think the 1950’s were normal life, and they were a unique and “never-to-be-seen-again” time of history.

  1334. Johnny Rebel Says:

    “Thug Life”, yeah now thats the ticket.

  1335. Johnny Rebel Says:

    http://www.thugreport.com/

  1336. Johnny Rebel Says:

    http://mvn.com/nfl-raiders/2008/06/27/most-of-the-truth-comes-out-about-the-javon-walker-story/

  1337. Andrews mom Says:

    The thugreport is racist!
    Its all black people!!

  1338. Andrews mom Says:

    Daily Reminder: This blog still sucks and I hope Jerry goes thug on the waste of human flesh that is suppose to be writing blogs while he is mourning the death of his dad.

    You parasite reporters lick shacks butt
    Hows my butt taste now?

    What the heck did shack mean when he asked lowbeam how his butt taste?

  1339. Johnny Rebel Says:

    He’s probably at the parade with MR today.
    http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?bfromind=2728&eeid=5958075&_sitecat=1522&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=2&ck=&ch=ne

  1340. 4evaRaider Says:

    As I stated b4 people lye when they have something 2 hide.Hell if I was trying 2 save 12-16 million Id lie 2.And by the way Ive seen plenty of these hit and run deals.You take a hit,you like it,go get your cash[or cash in youre chips],go back 2 the man and there ya go.Party boy lives!!!If anything else,he can be accused of GROSS STUPIDITY.RaiderKC said yesterday,he could have his honnies/buddies overe 2 his house.They couldve brought him anything he wanted STOOOOOOOPID

  1341. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 1338 Andrews Mom Only the black peoploe are getting caught

  1342. 4evaRaider Says:

    people;sorry

  1343. Johnny Rebel Says:

    No being a thug and Thug Life are two different things. You’ll have to try and talk to Tupac on a weegie board to find out why he created the “Thug Life” lifestyle. Or you can just google it and find out for yourself. But he was just making music, no harm done.

  1344. 408RAIDER Says:

    …. Morning NATION

    they see me mowin
    my front lawn
    I know they’re all thinking
    Im so white and nerdy…..

    cought a wierd al show last night it was pretty good BTW

  1345. Johnny Rebel Says:

    http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=426968

  1346. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Today’s soccer final to be held in a stadium that was a WWII Nazi Prison.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3457493&categoryId=2378529

  1347. 4evaRaider Says:

    …Morning 408

  1348. 4evaRaider Says:

    Ahhnold is on meet the press

  1349. 408RAIDER Says:

    sup 4eva took the princess to her 1st concert last night had a blast…. couldnt enjoy the beautiful beers (had a few) but we all have to sacrafice sometimes

  1350. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    From Pro Football Weekly
    The long-term contract negotiations between the Raiders and exclusive franchise free-agent CB Nnamdi Asomugha continue to drag on, but we hear they have not turned contentious. Sources fully expect the two sides to reach an agreement, and Asomugha has made it clear that he has no intention of extending his holdout into the season.

  1351. Johnny Rebel Says:

    When he signs, if it were not for Walker, the Raiders would be known for having the best offseason in the NFL this year. Kudos to Davis and Kiffin.

  1352. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Go Spain!!!

  1353. 4evaRaider Says:

    hey Dakota,if McChange picks Romney,you gonna stick with the GOP???Some people are saying he needs the WEST,Romney being mormon,he could really help McChange.

  1354. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Here is what MR is referring to when he mentions “Southern Strategy”, Nixon targeted white voters in the south to get elected. Now Obama’s “Southern Strategy” is to target black voters. I just wonder if MR will swap sides again.
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/06/29/MN5U11GBH1.DTL

  1355. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    LMN
    Go Espana.

    That ones for you! Good luck.

  1356. 4evaRaider Says:

    Looks like all nfl teams are signing O-lineman 2 big contracts.Like it or not Harris is the man.

  1357. La Milicia Negra Says:

    exLA…

    yeah!!1 but history tells me Germany will come out as the lucky winner…

  1358. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”Despite Mike Williams’ improved summer of workouts, he’s reportedly still “a longshot to stick” in Tennessee.
    The Titans would probably rather give their roster spots to younger draft picks who can help on special teams. Williams’ upside at this point is as a slot receiver, and it’s quite possible he won’t have a job this year.
    Jun. 29 – 11:39 a.m. ET”—

    ________________________________________________________

    No sh1t§!?, duhh! I might ad =)

  1359. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    LMN,
    I never root for Germany! NEVER!

  1360. La Milicia Negra Says:

    +1

  1361. MR Says:

    I see johnny rebel’s still trying to pretend he’s not a racist when using the word thug the way he does. How futile. Just drop it, Johnny. Get over your beef with black people.

  1362. MR Says:

    CopenhagenFan Says:
    June 29th, 2008 at 12:55 am

    Dakota….your political perspective is pretty much the same as the Raiders fans who talk about the “greatness of the Raiders” and Al Davis.

    ……

    LOL. Sad, isn’t it? Even worse, Dakota drinks the kool aid out of both cups.

  1363. La Milicia Negra Says:

    MR…

    many things can be said about you, but you at least consistent…

    … and don’t throw Al Davis’ quote about consistency after me =)

  1364. MR Says:

    You know, I didn’t read the Sapp interview in the Chronicle until yesterday. If someone already quoted him on his comments about the Raiders and how they’re ran, forgive me. But here’s an encore. Sorry. But this needs to be discussed.

    Warren Sapp, when asked to describe his experience with the Raiders:

    “As dark as a black hole. Stuff went on in that organization that shouldn’t go on in sports. I don’t think there’s one person who knows who or what is making the call. Let’s just say the Oakland experience is unique. The phone rings quite a bit on that sideline. Insubordination is grounds for termination in any company.”

    …..

    Pure conjecture??? Rumor mongering?

  1365. MR Says:

    Link ^^^ SF Chronicle’s web site, Sports, Raiders section. I have trouble posting URL’s here, so if anyone really doesn’t know how to get to SFgate, google it.

  1366. MR Says:

    Now, although Sapp wasn’t asked directly about the Kiffin/Davis drama, that quote doesn’t go too far to debunk the rumors of Davis and Kiffin’s falling out, does it? I mean, if all was good between Al and Lane, it wouldn’t cost Sapp a dime to just say so. Instead, he gave a statement that clearly indicates the opposite.

  1367. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR is a Liar and Hater Says:
    June 28th, 2008 at 8:21 am
    MR Says:
    June 17th, 2008 at 11:52 am
    # BART Bridge Balla Says:
    June 17th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    MR isn’t a racist, he hates everybody.

    ………

    You know? I can agree with that. I don’t hate everyone, literally, but I do hate most people. I believe the human race has peaked and is on it’s way down the sewer, and there’s absolutely no stopping it. So, yeh, I’ll take that label.

    MR Says:
    June 28th, 2008 at 12:09 am
    Hey, about the bet with Dakota. I lied to him. Big deal. I respect the respectable. Dakota? Come on. I’m here. Deal with me, ladies.

    ..
    Were suppose to believe you a known LIAR what Sapp really means, I guess your evil brain can pick up what people really said as a fact,I forgot your a liberal a gutless position on all things life.

  1368. Joe Says:

    I admit it’s not exactly reassuring, what Sapp said, but it’s also kind of confusing, on the other hand. For example, what, exactly does this mean? “I don’t think there’s one person who knows who or what is making the call.” People have been saying for years that the problem is that Al calls all the shots; Sapp seems to be saying that the problem is almost the opposite, that there is not one, defined decision maker. I also kind of doubt that the ’sideline phone’ rings all that much on gamedays; that sounds like dramatic license on Sapp’s part to me. Still, I will admit to finding what Sapp said to be troubling, as opposed to Randy Moss’s coments, which always sounded like the sour-grape whinings of an eternal malcontent.

  1369. 408RAIDER Says:

    Sapp needs to STFU he didnt do isht as a raider!!! I hold him responsible for our D’s run stopping problems.. and dont give me any BS about his leadership cuz now hes blasting us in the papers… ufck him!!! A new day is comming to our beloved RAIDERS.. Best defense is a good offense and all that…

  1370. MR Says:

    MR is a liar (nice name, btw. One of those great philosopher types one said that all attention is good attention. Don’t quite know if I believe it, but while in this blog, I obviously have no choice but to subscribe to the theory, right?), what do you think Sapp meant by his comments? I mean, I know you don’t KNOW. Because far be it from you to ever give an opinion without having all of the facts. But just this one time, I won’t hold it against you. Give your best assessment of Sapp’s comments.

  1371. MR Says:

    And guys, remember, I didn’t attempt to decipher what Sapp said, word for word, either. All I said was that if there were no drama between Kiffin and Davis, the way the press reported it, it wouldn’t cost Sapp a dime to just say that all is well. Now, Sapp wasn’t asked directly about Davis vs. Kiffin, but his comments about this organization, and mind you, this interview took place LAST WEEK, certainly adds fuel to the fire. I mean, his comment goes in the complete opposite direction of debunking the media’s stories on the dysfunction in Alameda.

  1372. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR

    Sapps just jellous cuz nobody wants him on their morning show… :P So hes tryin to get attention IMO…

  1373. MR Says:

    408, while we’re agreed on Sapp’s performance as a Raider, which was certainly an overall disappointment (can’t help but to believe that Sapp was another has been that Davis got googly eyed over…), do you think he’s lying about the state of the Raiders?

  1374. MR Says:

    Of course Sapp is trying to get attention, 408. The man’s been trying to get attention since the doctor slapped him on the ass. But is he lying?

  1375. Thec Says:

    NATION what is up? Found an article on chris henry. some of charges were dismissed.

    http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5jsytN61g5NfvivBTmYjnWgLP7iZw

    The interesting thing about the article was that an unidentfied team was talking to him. Now the question is was it the Raiders?

  1376. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR

    Lie’n no!! exaggerating?.. well maby but thats besides the point.. untill AL releases some control its always going that way with the RAIDERS.. & no I dont like it but it is what it is.. all Kiffin has to do is win some games like 8 or 9 and hell get more rope….

  1377. MR Says:

    408, if what Sapp says is true (the likeliness of his exaggerating noted..), which you seem to allude to, it would meant that it’s not Kiffin’s fault that we can’t win 8 or 9 games. So it makes no sense for Kiffin to be held to that standard. A coach can not win if he’s being micromanaged by someone higher up the ladder who’s second guessing him at every turn.

  1378. MR Says:

    Either that, or it would mean that Kiffin is getting in the way. If that’s the case, then hey, fire the guy. Hire another puppet like Shell. What’s the point of hiring Kiffin if his expertise is not welcome? Or…if he has none to speak of, which many in here have said? What’s the point???

    Again, this is in light of Sapp’s comments. You guys may think MaddenRaiders’ opening up the same old can of worms. Uh uh…This time, it was Warren who opened it!

  1379. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR

    Agreed but Madden did it as did Flores and to some extent so did gruden(ass face).. so its not impossible for Kiffin to do the same ya dig?

  1380. Raider O Says:

    LMN,

    I guess you were right about Spain, do you think Spain will win against Germany?

  1381. 408RAIDER Says:

    sup O? ur a futball guy to.. I wish I could get into it so the off season wouldnt suk so much but I just cant its toooooo boring IMO so I stuck reading this old a$s blog… come on steve give us something anything ur letting Jerry down and us too….

  1382. MR Says:

    408, it’s possible Davis is getting more difficult to work for, though. Our record over the past 5 years is by far our worst 5 year run, ever. If Kiffin was to bring Gruden, excuse me, ass face like results, he wound up 4 games short of the curve in his first year. We were 6-2 at one point in the ‘98 season, which was ass face’s first year. After Gruden’s first season, I don’t recall too many negative comments, like what came from Sapp, coming from players that played on the ‘98 team. The stench that’s here today just wasn’t there, then. And the press was just as much out to get Al Davis then as they are today.

  1383. Raider O Says:

    408,
    It’s not as entertaining as the NFL, but to me its better than baseball and arena football, and B ball has not been the same since Jordan retired, I love all sports except Hockey ans Nascar

  1384. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR
    gruden got his toys after the 98 season as did Kiffin this off season so…. well have to wait and see. Al cant even make it to Practice anymore so how meddeling can he actually be the guy is old and he just dosent have what it takes any more..so he’s useing Mark and Amy 2 run things now… wich is a whole other scary issue

  1385. MR Says:

    408, you’re making the case now that Al Davis couldn’t meddle anymore due to his age and health. So, you do believe Sapp is lying? Or, is there someone else Sapp’s referring to when he talks about the phone ringing on the sideline? Is Al Davis too old to watch a monitor, watch a football game from his owner’s box, and/or to pick up a phone?

  1386. Raider O Says:

    408,

    I hate the off-season, thank God for the draft and FA, and the off-season drama. Raiders are going to kill some teams this year.(denver,KC)

  1387. Raider O Says:

    Sapp likes to run his mouth, I wouldn’t take what he said too seriously, plus he misses the spotlight.

  1388. 408RAIDER Says:

    O

    but I realy want to beat the chokers this loosing to the AFC west is freaking killing me… I dont have season tix but I go to all divisonal home games Ill just sayu the ride back to San Jose hasn’t been a good 1 for a long time I hate when we loose @ home

  1389. Raider O Says:

    408,

    Denver and KC don’t have the offense or a defense to win, but SD (and I hate to say this cause I live in SD and I hate the chokers) do have a good team that has been playing well for the last 2 yrs, so i would be happy if we split, but Denver and KC are sorry.

  1390. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR

    I already said I didnt think he was lieing… as for whos on the phone how the ufck should I know??? Pluss Al will meddle as long as he’s alive so all we can do is raider on dude…..

  1391. 408RAIDER Says:

    O

    agreed but LT is starting to break down Gates is still a beast and rivers is a snivelling b!otch ther d is good tho….. ufck the chokers they’ve never won anything… I’d be good with a split this year and a sweep next year….. oh yeah thats what Im talkin bout.. Steve ur breakin my balls here we need a new thread….

  1392. MR Says:

    408, who could Sapp have been referring to other than Davis, when he talked of the phone ringing on the sideline? I’m pretty sure he was talking about Davis, unless there’s a GM in Oakland I don’t know about. You’re suggesting that Davis is in no health to micro manage. So, then you are suggesting that Sapp is lying. Again, all that absolves this is someone else being on that phone. Who could it be? Who could it be now?

  1393. MR Says:

    Sapp is lying, Raider O?

  1394. Raider O Says:

    Soccer time.

  1395. Bob Marley Says:

    IMO, Sapp was probably speaking about his whole experience in Oakland, his first 3 years under Norv and Shell were tough.

    We know Norv does not have the kind of personality that takes over a team so I´m guessing many players never really felt he would hold them accountable and AD´s presence was magnified.

    Shell tried to show he was the man from the start but seems like things backfired and we ended up with the Jerry Porter situation, that was a mess as players wanted him on the field, they thougt he was being treated unfairly but Shell never gave in and AD sided with the Coach as he did not intervene in Porter´s behalf.

    As far as last season, here´s what said Sapp said in December with the season nearing the end: “It takes you a little while once you get ahold of an organization to get it turned,” locker-room spokesman Warren Sapp notes, “But so far, so good for the young fella.”

    I would think realized things were changing but his overall experience in Oakland had more negatives than positives and he speaks accordingly.

    By the way, I don´t get Sapp, I just read about his retirement party yesterday and Gruden, Monte and Lane Kiffin were there, this just days after Sapp gave Dungy most of the credit for the SB win and accused Monte of running him out of town…one would think Gruden and Monte didn´t exactly appreciate his comments but they were there, maybe they learned long ago that you have to take everything Sapp says with a grain of salt.

  1396. 4evaRaider Says:

    Raiders will sweep division THIS YEAR 408!!!

  1397. MR Says:

    So Marely, which is it, is Sapp referring to pre Kiffin, or is he lying? You allude to both.

  1398. 408RAIDER Says:

    Bob

    nice comment I totally agree…. MR dude iI never said he was lieing so get off that 1 and Mr Davis can call the sideline whenever he wants Kiffin just needs to learn to ignore AL and do his job wich I feel he is doing…

    4eva I would like nothing more but SD is still veary good

  1399. MR Says:

    408 Raider, you did say he was lying. You said that Davis is no health to micromanage the Raiders. Sapp was certainly referring to Al Davis when he spoke of the phone ringing on the sideline. Your suggestion by default accuses Sapp of being a liar. Perhaps you don’t even know what you’re saying?

  1400. MR Says:

    BTW, 408, which part of Bob Marley’s comment do you agree with, the part where he suggests Sapp was referring to Turner/Shell, or the part where he suggests that Sapp is outright lying altogether?

  1401. Bob Marley Says:

    I think it´s a bit of both, but I just said Sapp´s comments should be taking with a grain of salt, I didn´t call him an outright liar. It´s not like I know the guy and I doubt anyone here does…this is all speculation and “interpretation” on our part, we can´t be right or wrong.

  1402. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR come clean do you bleed silver and black like the rest of us or are u realy a troll choker/whiner fan like every1 thinks…. I’ve given you the Benefit of the Doubt up to this point but ur putting to much stock in this sapp thing and its makeing me wonder…..

  1403. MR Says:

    Yes, 408, I bleed Silver and Black. The reason I’m putting stock into this “Sapp thing” is because my favorite football team is coming off of it’s 5th straight last place season. Because of this, I’m willing to give criticism of this franchise by former player the benefit of the doubt.

  1404. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR Says:
    June 29th, 2008 at 11:44 am
    408 Raider, you did say he was lying. You said that Davis is no health to micromanage the Raiders. Sapp was certainly referring to Al Davis when he spoke of the phone ringing on the sideline. Your suggestion by default accuses Sapp of being a liar. Perhaps you don’t even know what you’re saying?

    look dude I know what I said ur doing way to much… think whatever u want its a free country

  1405. MR Says:

    Bob Marley, so what did you mean by taking Sapp’s comments with a grain of salt, that he’s telling the truth?

  1406. MR Says:

    Will do, 408. I “think” you accused Sapp of lying. In fact, I’m sure of it.

  1407. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR

    good to hear brethrean.. Raider on Nation

  1408. MR Says:

    Thank you, 408. You Raider on, too. But I don’t think Sapp is lying. I think he’s telling the truth, and I think what he’s talking about had better be addressed. I can only hope now that the yahoo sports report that Davis is regretting his own managerial style and is considering giving up control is true.

  1409. 408RAIDER Says:

    # 1377

    MR read it again so we can move on… yeah Im pissed about the 5 year skid also but my glass is full of Kool-Aid and Im excited about our return to glory so please quit harshing my buzz

  1410. MR Says:

    408, if you really believe, then you believe. Nobody can kill your buzz. That’s what the kool aid’s there for. If I’m able to kill your buzz, then it’s probably because you agree with me.

  1411. MR Says:

    I’ll tell you what, I believe that if Kiffin is here for 3 years, we’re a playoff team that 3rd year, which is next year. But like I said yesterday, I fear that’s a huge if. But if he’s here next year, I believe we’re a playoff team. I believe this year we have a shot at 8-8. I don’t believe we’ll win 9 games this year, even if everything is cool between Davis and Kiffin, and always has been. I still don’t think we’re good enough.

  1412. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    MR,
    What a change. It’s great to read rational posts from you. Keep it up.

  1413. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR

    admit I agree with alot of your points… cept 4 when ur agruing with people bout silly isht ( most of the time ur funny tho) and I never said u killed my buzz only that you were harshing it.. =)

    gotta go run some erands like an adult

    raider on nation

  1414. Bob Marley Says:

    Allright, I´ll play along…try to keep up.

    Sapp´s comments don´t even make much sense, first he says no one knows who´s calling the shots and then he says the phone rings a lot on the sidelines which would mean that AD calls every shot.

    Everyone agrees last year´s team played much better than previous years even if the record didn´t reflect it, so….should we thank AD for picking up the phone and telling Kiffin what to do?.

    Sapp said so.

  1415. Bob Marley Says:

    Of course, there´s no way I believe that, but judging from your words today, you do MR.

  1416. MR Says:

    So then, Marley, Sapp is lying, right? Or, was he only referring to Turner/Shell with his comments, which was your first response today to this topic?

  1417. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR Says:
    June 29th, 2008 at 10:15 am
    And guys, remember, I didn’t attempt to decipher what Sapp said, word for word, either. All I said was that if there were no drama between Kiffin and Davis, the way the press reported it, it wouldn’t cost Sapp a dime to just say that all is well. Now, Sapp wasn’t asked directly about Davis vs. Kiffin, but his comments about this organization, and mind you, this interview took place LAST WEEK, certainly adds fuel to the fire. I mean, his comment goes in the complete opposite direction of debunking the media’s stories on the dysfunction in Alameda.

    ..

    Why does sapp need to mention any disagrement with davis and kiffin..was he there or was he just speculating like you are, do you have proof sapp has or knows what was going on.,he is just guessing like you always do MR

  1418. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR Says:
    June 29th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
    So then, Marley, Sapp is lying, right? Or, was he only referring to Turner/Shell with his comments, which was your first response today to this topic?

    ..
    MR do you ever lie to get your point across..i bet you have..just pretend you know everything

  1419. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR Says:
    June 29th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
    I’ll tell you what, I believe that if Kiffin is here for 3 years, we’re a playoff team that 3rd year, which is next year. But like I said yesterday, I fear that’s a huge if. But if he’s here next year, I believe we’re a playoff team. I believe this year we have a shot at 8-8. I don’t believe we’ll win 9 games this year, even if everything is cool between Davis and Kiffin, and always has been. I still don’t think we’re good enough.

    ..

    do you know why kiffin wont be back next year..lets guess why..as you said thats a huge if..sapp didnt mention that..should we worry also

  1420. Bob Marley Says:

    Allright then, I´m out, see you guys later.

  1421. MR Says:

    LOL. Alright, later, Marley. I see you’ve got soldiers doing your fighting for you. Must be nice. I’m the Rambo of this blog. I’m all alone. But I caught you in a pretty good flip flop there, Marley. It’s obvious now you think Sapp is lying. So then why the disingenuous attempt to pass it off as a reference to Turner/Shell? Ahh, you go out and have fun. Let your henchmen answer for ya.

  1422. MR Says:

    MR is a liar (did I tell you I love that name?), I referenced the reports of Davis and Kiffin falling out, and Kiffin subsequently being gone after this year, to make the point that Sapp’s comments go entirely in the wrong direction of dispelling those reports.

  1423. MR Says:

    MR is a liar and hater (sorry, I forgot the “hater” part previously. Forgive me. I try to get names right), assuming you’re not somebody I’ve already discussed this with, having a little fun under an alter ego (I know you’re not Marley. While we now know Marley isn’t the most honest person in the world, I actually do believe him when he says he only posts under the name Bob Marley), what’s your take on Sapp’s comments? Do you, MR is a liar, a hater, and an overall skallywag, believe that Sapp is outright making this all up? Is he telling the truth? Is he referring to Al Davis? Was he only referring to the Turner/Shell years? Is Sapp simply not to be truted? You can always give Marley’s answer, which is the latter two combined, and ignore it’s contradiction.

  1424. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    LONG LIVE AL!

  1425. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR Says:
    June 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
    MR is a liar and hater (sorry, I forgot the “hater” part previously. Forgive me. I try to get names right), assuming you’re not somebody I’ve already discussed this with, having a little fun under an alter ego (I know you’re not Marley. While we now know Marley isn’t the most honest person in the world, I actually do believe him when he says he only posts under the name Bob Marley), what’s your take on Sapp’s comments?
    ..
    i dont give a crap about marley..does your little ego hurt when you have others disagree with you..you usually blame the person your arguing with as there henchmen or your alter ego..the biggest flip flopper here on this blog is you..and i wont answer your questions due to your guessing what is going on and then you are able to provide your own facts to justify your position..sapp has no clue ..just like you..
    ..
    MR is a liar (did I tell you I love that name?),
    ..
    thats why i use it..i will be back.. liar

  1426. Madden Raider Slapper Says:

    Well, MR, Sapp didn’t give us any specifics or name anybody did he? On one hand, he says there isn’t one person who is making the call, then he infers that insbordination is grounds for a firing and the phone rings on the sideline a lot.

    I’ve always found the Al is calling coaches on the sidelines quite funny. It’s amazing that with the advancements in television and showing Al up in the owner’s box for over 30 years, there would be at least one visual proof of Al calling someone on the sideline.

    By the way, here is a specific quote on Al Davis by Warren Sapp that I’m sure a fair & balanced(heavy sarcasm) like you should enjoy.

    “You’re talking about one of the sharpest football minds you’ll ever come around.”

  1427. MR Says:

    Here’s another quote by Sapp, MR Jocker:

    “The Raiders are a black hole”.

    So, Jocker, is Sapp lying about what he recently said?

  1428. MR Says:

    MR is a hater, liar, thief, convict, lawyer, doctor, elitist liberal, and whatever else you can come up with; You did answer my question, rather you intended to or not. You said Sapp has no clue, which makes him a liar. Why do you think he’s lying, MR is a hater, liar, cheat, hooligan, skallywag, person who really gets under my skin? What’s his motive? Back your theory with some clarification.

  1429. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR..it must hurt your feelings that when asked about your boy gruden..sapp replied he just put icing on the cake..MR that is crushing..your great coach is a cake dresser..not a great coach..sapp did say that..but what does that really mean.. is he lieing.. or just having some fun..sapp is and always will be about sapp

  1430. MR Says:

    I already stated earlier, I agree with Sapp regarding Gruden. Gruden won with Dungy’s team. Anything else, MR is an every negative thing in the world? Now, back to the topic: Sapp shredding the Raiders’ organization to the press last week. You clearly believe Sapp is lying. You said he’s “clueless”. Yeh, I’m sure he is clueless. I mean, he only played for the team for the previous 4 years… But anyhow, tell us, why is he making this up? Back your theory up with something concrete. That way it’ll be taken seriously.

  1431. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 11:53 am
    Yahoo sports, today:

    “Three sources who have had conversations with the Oakland Raiders general managing partner within the past two months said Davis has expressed regret over the team’s offseason spending spree on players and worries about his ability to end the longest-running slump in team history.”

    What? Al Davis doesn’t believe in our players? That’s it!! Al Davis is not a real fan, man!!!!

    ..
    pft debukes that story MR..why dont you mention that as a reliable source..you cant ..it doesnt fit your lies or hatred of davis..its better to only site unnamed sources and then lets start the speculating MR games again..you are no rambo..just a low life thug..

  1432. MR Says:

    MR gets under my skin,

    Sapp is telling the truth about Gruden, but lying about the current state of the Raiders? Is that what you’re saying?

  1433. MR Says:

    Well, if Rambo were black, he’d be a thug, right MR gets under my skin? That seems to be the standard for you and Johnny Rebel regarding when to use the thug label; Black skin.

  1434. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR Says:
    June 27th, 2008 at 11:44 am
    Forgot to add that if the Raiders DO win, don’t expect me to give Al Davis any credit. And didn’t I promise to leave if the Raiders ran the ball 20 times a game? I did, didn’t I? I hope nobody remembers that.

    ..
    MR you have no honesty..you are a rumor starter and hater..by the way this blog didnt forget your stupid prediction..it goes with the person that writes crap all the time..and cant back it up..

  1435. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    sapp is exactly how his last name reads…….. a sapp

  1436. MR Says:

    And, it’s “rebuke”, not “debuke”. This is why Marley should do his own fighting.

  1437. MR Says:

    MR gets under my skin,

    Is Sapp telling the truth about Gruden, while lying about the current state of the Raiders?

  1438. MR Says:

    South Texas Raider, welcome. So, do you believe Sapp is lying?

  1439. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    Johnny Rebel Says:
    June 29th, 2008 at 6:18 am
    No being a thug and Thug Life are two different things. You’ll have to try and talk to Tupac on a weegie board to find out why he created the “Thug Life” lifestyle. Or you can just google it and find out for yourself. But he was just making music, no harm done.

    ..
    agreed..thats what they wanted..its called marketing..they own it and wanted it..

  1440. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR is a Liar and Hater Says:
    June 29th, 2008 at 9:54 am
    MR is a Liar and Hater Says:
    June 28th, 2008 at 8:21 am
    MR Says:
    June 17th, 2008 at 11:52 am
    # BART Bridge Balla Says:
    June 17th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    MR isn’t a racist, he hates everybody.

    ………

    You know? I can agree with that. I don’t hate everyone, literally, but I do hate most people. I believe the human race has peaked and is on it’s way down the sewer, and there’s absolutely no stopping it. So, yeh, I’ll take that label.

    MR Says:
    June 28th, 2008 at 12:09 am
    Hey, about the bet with Dakota. I lied to him. Big deal. I respect the respectable. Dakota? Come on. I’m here. Deal with me, ladies.

    ..
    texas dude..this is the dude you are playing with..

  1441. MR Says:

    MR gets under my skin, thanks but no thanks for posting one or Rebel’s lame attempts to explain that he’s not a racist when he throws the word thug at every single black person who winds up in the news. Already caught that show.

  1442. MR Says:

    Hey MR gets under my skin,

    What about the dude that says that Sapp is lying about the Raiders yet telling the truth about Gruden? People as foolish as you are the reason why I’ve lost so much faith in humanity.

  1443. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR..your crystal ball is waiting to be picked up..cash please..you have no credit here..your questions will not be answered..lets wait for the crystal ball purchase..

  1444. MR Says:

    And, of course I lied to Dakota. Big deal. Who makes good on a bet they lost to a putz like Dakota? Of course you leave him hanging. He’s used to it.

    But MR gets under my skin,

    What up with your flip flop on Sapp’s integrity? You pulled up is quote about Gruden (which I agree with, btw), but then in practically the same sentence insist he can’t be trusted when opining on the Raiders.

    What’s with you, dude?

  1445. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR..you dont get under my skin..you have no game..you are so easy to play with..i just bring up your stupid posts and have fun..always fun to bring up your thoughts on stupidity.. your as easy as the thug you are..

  1446. MR Says:

    Marley’s crystal ball first landed on “Sapp’s referring to Turner and Shell”. He should have left it alone. But then he shook the damned thing again, and it wound up at “Sapp can’t be trusted”. Yours seems to be just as funny. My crystal ball keeps coming up as “Sapp’s a straight shooter”.

  1447. MR Says:

    Well then that makes two of us, MR gets under my skin. Because I’m having fun, too, making fun of this flip flopping you and Marley keep doing on the meaning of Sapp’s comments and his integrity.

  1448. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR..this is boring..im out to watch slinkly women with very little bathing suit bottoms..even you can agree with that..maybe..your on this blog always..maybe you dont like women..you hate everybody..i will catch you later..i love to play your game..

  1449. MR Says:

    Alright, kids, I’m catching some daylight. See if you can come up with any original MR put downs while I’m gone. I’ll check in tonight and grade you.

    And, btw…got it. Sapp’s telling the truth when criticizing Jon Gruden, but lying when criticizing the Raiders. Heck, isn’t everyone? :)

  1450. Andrews mom Says:

    MR I hope you dont mind a little constructive criticism since you have no problem dispensing it to others.
    My second ex’s mom was one heck of an unlikeable woman . She could not stand to be wrong about anything so she would always ignore any points being made that did not defend her stance. Then she would pull what ifs and maybes and you said’s out of left field in a vain attempt to make herself look good. And to make it worse she could not stand it if anyone was having a good time so she ruined everything we did, I mean EVERTHING. We took the kids to disneyland, she invited herself and she even rained on the dam disneyland parade. My kids were bawling their poor little eyes out from listening to her whine and complain.

    Her husband ran away from home the first chance he got and we never heard or saw from him again untill her funeral. You would have thought the man had died and gone to heaven. He said just knowing she wasnt lurking in the shadows to ruin his day anymore made him fell like a million bucks.
    To top everything else off, I think the Baby Jesus was poking me with a sharp stick because she was a bronco fan and the only time I ever saw her smile was when the dam doncs beat us and she would rub it in. My wife divorced me shortly after I ran over her moms dog. I was drunk but it was an accident and her mom said I did it on purpose because the doncs beat us that day. She would not forgive me and things fell apart after that.

    Anyway if you are looking for the moral of the story, there isnt one. You just remind me of me exs mom.

  1451. MR Says:

    Oh, enjoy those women on the beach, MR gets under my skin. Like Oakglenn, you don’t need to tell me you pull chicks. I’ve already had you pegged for a pimp. You certainly fit the profile. LOL. I’ll drop in tonight. Come up with some original MR put downs and I’ll grade you. And, we’ll talk more about you and Marley’s flip flopping today. I want to know where you guys stand. Because it seems not even you guys know. Later.

  1452. La Milicia Negra Says:

    YES!!!11

    o/~ Viva España o/~ A victory for football! (Soccer)

    Raider O, 4evaRaider, exLA… did you see the Final??

  1453. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”Undrafted wide receiver Adarius Bowman erupted for 112 yards and a touchdown on six catches in his debut for the Saskatchewan Roughriders. His 73-yard TD clinched Saskatchewan’s win over the Edmonton Eskimos. If Bowman keeps this up, it’ll only be a matter of time before he’s getting calls from NFL teams. He was a first-day prospect coming out before appearing to self destruct with awful workouts and an arrest for marijuana possession.”—

    Shouldn’t we take a look, now that Javon won’t be the mac?

  1454. Andrews mom Says:

    I wish I could pull chicks. I am homely like an old bassett hound so I pretty much settle for whomever will have me. My first wife was a little overweight when we married but she ballooned up after I said I do. The first clue was the big cake she ordered for the wedding. She was so stuffed after the wedding she had a hard time performing her womanly duties that evening but I was like a little gopher and I dug in and didnt take no for a answer.

    Anyway she got real big. As a matter of fact she was so big that I got a hernia trying to lift her spirit.

  1455. Oakglenn Says:

    good to see MR or MoRon as he likes to be called in here making new friends.

  1456. MaddenRaider Slapper Says:

    There’s MR right there…”My second ex’s mom was one heck of an unlikeable woman . She could not stand to be wrong about anything so she would always ignore any points being made that did not defend her stance. Then she would pull what ifs and maybes and you said’s out of left field in a vain attempt to make herself look good. And to make it worse she could not stand it if anyone was having a good time so she ruined everything we did, I mean EVERTHING.”

  1457. Andrews mom Says:

    What type of grading sytem does MR use?
    I bet I get a c+ unless he grades on a curve.

  1458. 4evaRaider Says:

    Viva Espana!!! La Milicia Negra.I saw the replay 1-0 Spain.First Cup in 44 years!!!Man would I like 2 b in Spain 2nite.I was wondering LMN,does that organization,Baath Sepratist? do they celebrate also and stop their activity,and join the party and take pride in the countrys good fortune.I hope so,sports is supposed 2 transend politics.THIS IS A GREAT DAY 4 SPAIN!!!!!I hope all share in youre special special day Brother LMN!!! VIVA ESPANA

  1459. Andrews mom Says:

    If Al Davis was a euro he would have won lots of world cups. Which team is most like the Raiders anyway?

  1460. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4eva….

    the baath are from 1raq, I think the could care less about soccer right now…

  1461. La Milicia Negra Says:

    If Al Davis was a coin???

  1462. Johnny Rebel Says:

    The best thing that could have ever happened for the Raiders in the last 2 years was Sapp finnaly quiting. His leadership was not what Davis had hoped for and he clearly was a situational player for the Raiders but given the starting role due to injuries. Its a good thing he is no longer running his mouth in the Raiders locker room.

  1463. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMN the news just the streets of Madrid WHOO-HOO everyone in the whole country is out on streets!!! I cant remember the name of the organization to the north is Spain.Oh well thats another political conversation,another time ENJOY .Wow Spain is going NUTS!!! Wouldnt it be nice 2 allways see that kind of fun

  1464. 408RAIDER Says:

    sup Nation… MR wont let the sapp thing go huh I tried but….. hot chicks in spain gonna be drunk tonight damn wish I could be there too…

  1465. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4eva..

    ETA

  1466. 408RAIDER Says:

    1554 enlightened black ale (new belgium brewing) mmmmmmmm beer,,,

  1467. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Funny second response to this article at the bottom, telling the TSA to fire the thugs at the airport. But as you notice MR, nothing is mentioned about race, unless of course, you respond to it.
    http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_article.aspx?storyid=92325&catid=45

  1468. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408…

    Cheers…may it taste you…

  1469. 4evaRaider Says:

    Thank you LMN I hope they celebrate too!!!But nevermind party hardy LMN

  1470. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN

    thanx… so how you gonna get your sports fix now that the world cup is over???

  1471. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Sapp was so overrated, Davis really screwed up agreeing to sign that punk. 45-0 should have been all anyone needed to see as a healthy Wheatly ran amuck but they will put him in the Hall because of his big mouth. If not for Gannon’s 5 interceptions Sapp would not even be on dancing with the stars.

  1472. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 1465 Man I agree 408 Senoritas are
    SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

  1473. 408RAIDER Says:

    4eva

    what are u drinking today? freaking NOR CAL fires are burning up all the good green bud….

  1474. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408…

    the national league here in DK starts july 20th…

    and we have bought a swedish defender from a french club, but I worry about our offense..

  1475. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408…

    and on saturday the tour starts.. thats 21 days =) but last year I pledged I wouldn’t see, but I’m not sure I can stay away :/

  1476. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN
    do what you gotta do I wish I could get into another sport half as much as I am about our beloved RAIDERS…. October fest other sports Im green with envy :P

  1477. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408…

    yeah but its a big flaw, Football isn’t bigger, but in 20ys time we will be competitive with canada!!

    Waow, :/

  1478. Raider O Says:

    LMN,

    you called it, Spain won, they beat my favorite team Italy, and they played Germany very well and won. In Spain I trust. I’m sad the Cup is over, can’t wait for August, then September, and hopefully January.

  1479. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Germany of all the losers you came first =) Muhahahah but they will be tough in south africa

  1480. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Rugby is better than soccer and just as old.

  1481. Johnny Rebel Says:

    I want to see Hellboy 2.

  1482. 408RAIDER Says:

    I wanna see jessica alba sit on my face…. (=

  1483. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Johny Rotten…

    and?

  1484. 4evaRaider Says:

    408 9 ouy of 10 days I drink FOSTERS,in a can ONLY.Also thank the bud-god 4 Hydro BRO!!!

  1485. 408RAIDER Says:

    LOL 4eva

    I hear that but the mendicino and humbolt county is right there with the indoor IMO and its cheeper.. like 15 hunnies a bow cheaper…… 8)

  1486. 4evaRaider Says:

    408RAIDER DAMN DUDE and those are my 2 favorite counties

  1487. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    whats up nation

  1488. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Just remember that aluminum releases into the beer over time from a can and then into your system. Born on dates are rumored to be a reaction to the medical material.

  1489. La Milicia Negra Says:

    STR!!!

  1490. 4evaRaider Says:

    408,LMN,my pit-bull[ROXIE]wants 2 go 4 her walk RITE-NOW!!!!!!! and she is VERY persuasive,shes acting like the good people of Madrid,going beserk-O.be back in a bit!!!

  1491. Johnny Rebel Says:

    I am glad to see Davis holding out till the deadline to release Jordan. It’s also comforting to know if Sapp decided to make a comeback Davis has his rights and can trade him to the highest bidder.

  1492. 408RAIDER Says:

    4eva yeah I gotta feed the troops be back in a lil bit …… Steve ur still breaking our balls over here.. New thread please make something up if u have to … ur supposed 2 be haveing Jerry’s back while he mourns the loss of his hero/ father… u dropped the ball dude

  1493. 4evaRaider Says:

    Johnny Rebel,yes I heard that aluminum,born out of NASA,may cause alzheimer’s but I thought aluminum needed heat 2 break down its composition,as in when you wrap food with it and throw it into oven.Icould be wrong,but even if Im not,i will prolly continue 2 drink Foster in can.I dont know why it tastes terrible in bottles.Maybe its all in my head

  1494. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    whats up lmn

  1495. 4evaRaider Says:

    If Sapp gets into HOF he wants 2 go in a buc I think,so in order 2 retire a suckenqueer AD would havs 2 be compensated I believe

  1496. La Milicia Negra Says:

    STR..

    I think we should take a look at Adarius Bowman…

  1497. 4evaRaider Says:

    Pandemonium 4 LMN STR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1498. Huff24 Says:

    I really wanted the Raiders to pick this guy up in free agency. There is no guarentee he would be great in the NFL but it couldn’t have hurt.

    PFT.com

    BOWMAN MAKES A BIG SPLASH
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 29, 2008, 4:10 p.m.
    Spurned by the NFL, rookie receiver Adarius Bowman headed north of the border. And, in his first regular-season game with the Saskatchewan Roughriders, Bowman, um, blowed up.

    Six catches, 112 yards, one touchdown.

    Bowman’s efforts propelled the Roughriders to a 34-13 win on Saturday night against the Edmonton Eskimos.

    “I’m loving this — we’re in it together and this is the first of many,” Bowman said after the game.

    With the Roughriders leading by only seven points, Bowman caught a 73-yard touchdown pass.

    The former Oklahoma State product fell off NFL draft boards, and then drew no interest via undrafted free agency

  1499. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Huff24

    me too, when he didn’t get drafted, I hoped they wouild take a look at hem as UFA..

  1500. La Milicia Negra Says:

    see post 1454

  1501. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR Im a pimp..you just dont know how to work the circuit..i dont understand pulling chicks..you must be old..never heard that term..i see you on here night and day..excuse me at any moment my doorbell will ring..im expecting a beautiful girl to come by..or as you say chick i pulled..my point is you have no life..you must be no chick magnet..i guess this blog is your chick..about that grade..i expect you to give us all f’s..that what you probably got in HS..excuse me the doorbell is ringing..shes here..gots to go and brought my favorite beer and some takeout..as you would say i pulled her in..late

  1502. Huff24 Says:

    I think most people come on here just to argue and throw insults. You guys realize you can do that with real people in real places right? You may not like the outcome but if you’re going to do it…go all out.

  1503. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Well…

    night all!

  1504. 408RAIDER Says:

    go Raiders……

  1505. linds....daraiderrukas Says:

    408raider….
    i want to apologize for comments made last week.
    4 the record i’m pretty sure you dropped a diss bomb first. anyway no disrepect i like to talk fotball and football alone. i just felt like folks were dissing walker they sounded like hyprocrites and it’s funny. i’m not on walker’s nuts by any means , i just hope he makes plays , and he’s a raider i support my team .
    anyway…. peace brother ….. go raiders

    some say i’m negative, but there not positive !

    2008 raidahs baby !

  1506. Dakota Says:

    You liberal pukes make me sick. Aborting every pregnancy while you live in trees. Quit smoking pot and open your eyes. How can a group of people be so idiotic. It reminds me of LMN and his elitist Euro buddies. Completely misinformed and misguided.

    STOP ABORTIONS NOW! Even with r8pe and inc3st, abortions must end now! They are MURDER!

    Only fraud boy should have been aborted.

  1507. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    Did someone say they wanted McCain burned alive? That’s already been tried but he survived. I believe it was 5 years worth of torture he survived. What a short term memory this country has.

    ct raider

  1508. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    post 189. Ben Franklin. Really? very little contributions. Have you ever heard of Dr. Deming? Went to Japan and was the reason they are what they are.

    CT RAIDER

    ALso, we have 100s of military bases over seas. In fact, a LOT in Germany! They pay us to be there. What would their cost be if we weren’t protecting their asses? WOuld they be able to spend all that money on R&D and education if they had to fund a full military?

  1509. MR Says:

    Jesus and Bob Dylan are liberals. That’s good enough for me.

  1510. MR Says:

    MR gets under my skin,

    Congrats on the chick. And, I really believe you.

  1511. MR Says:

    Rebel, we’re agreed (for a change) on Davis making a mistake by signing Sapp. Al took no consideration as to why Tampa dumped Warren. Al’s sort of known for that, and he hasn’t changed. See: WALKER, Javon.

    But that being said, I have no reason to believe that Sapp is lying about the current state of the Raiders. His comments seem to be consistent with everything that has gone on and everything that has been reported in recent months. Remember Kiffin: “Where there’s smoke there’s fire”. That was his response as to rather or not ALL of the rumors were true or false. It was the white collar version of what Sapp said.

  1512. Hall of Fame QB Steve Young Says:

    Well Said, MR. Way to keep up the heat on the Raider fans. Raiders suck. time to come back to 9er HQ and put your cute little Niner Jammies on, MR.

  1513. MR Says:

    Ha ha. Cute. An original way to pull the “you’re a Niner fan” card. I give it a 7 out of 10.

  1514. MR Says:

    BTW, Al Davis is putting more heat on Raider fans than I ever could. He’s the one who’s making you hard cores look stupid year after year.

  1515. MR Says:

    If I were in charge of the Raiders? You guys would be sitting pretty. You’d actually have wins to point to when niner and dolt trolls come in here, as opposed to empty rhetoric and nostalgic glory. *tsk tsk…I would have addressed our run defense this off season.

  1516. Hall of Fame QB Steve Young Says:

    You mean you’re not a niner fan MR??? (wink wink). You coulda fooled me. Now on to doing another Toyota commercial. Just tell those dumb Raider fans how much Al Davis sucks and how great Ed DeBartolo was.

  1517. MR Says:

    I’m no Niner fan, nor an Eddie Debartolo fan. Debartolo…Freaking 3rd rate wannabe gangster, wound up snitching. But I’ll continue to tell the kool aid drinking Davis worshippers how much Al Davis sucks, you can count on that. If there’s anyone more responsible for the Raiders losing 61 games in the past 5 years than Al Davis, let’s hear it.

  1518. MR Says:

    The only team I want the Raiders to be ran like is the New York Giants. They’re the champions. Al Davis’s goal should be to make his team better than the champions. That should be every GM’s goal. I don’t see where he’s made one single move in that direction. He’s only trying to build a caricature of his 1967 team, like he has the past 5 years. I don’t see how this season’s going to wind up any different, unless Kiffin just takes the team over and does whatever he wants, rather Al likes it or not. Let’s hold the good thought.

  1519. CopenhagenFan Says:

    Why is “liberal” a dirty word in America?

    Bush and Cheney, Newt Gingrich, Jessie Helms, Strom Thurman, etc are conservatives.

    Let’s put a brother in the White House and change America for the better and embrace TRUE American values. Our founding fathers were EXTREME liberals!

  1520. CopenhagenFan Says:

    Maybe if we had like universal health care, fair conditions for all and a good education system there would be fewer “thugs”? :-)

  1521. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    Jesus was not a liberal! He didn’t believe in “hand outs”. he’ll teach you to fish not allow you to sit on your couch while the community paid for fish to be delivered to your house.

    We are an animal. In animal world the weakest link dies. Let it be.

  1522. CopenhagenFan Says:

    JIM if the weak die out based on natural selection, how does that explain the existence of hoards of trailer parks filled with uneducated, ignorant, beer guzling white trash? :-)

  1523. Johnny Rebel Says:

    The coaches and players are the ones that have lost 61 games, not Davis, no matter how you try to spin it.

  1524. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Better to let all the thugs live in trailers than give them a house and health care on tax payers money like in some parts of Europe. Anyone can get a free education these days. You can educate people but its up to them to listen. Letting thugs get a free pass does not solve any of their problems, it just creates more problems for eveyone else. Maybe Obama or McCain will push for a carbon tax on the rest of the world to help the thugs in America get on their feet. Since Europe likes taxes so much we can raise thier taxes to help the common good of the world.

  1525. Johnny Rebel Says:

    The thugs do eliminate each other so there is some natural selection there.

  1526. Johnny Rebel Says:

    How was the gay pride parade MR?

  1527. Johnny Rebel Says:

    And since you guys brought Jesus into the reading, he was not a liberal but a radical that wanted to over throw the Roman government of the time, thats why he was executed, the dead sea scrolls put all the fairy tales to rest years ago.

  1528. 4evaRaider Says:

    Goog Morning NATION!!!

  1529. RaiderTW Says:

    Dakota Says:
    You liberal pukes make me sick. Aborting every pregnancy while you live in trees. Quit smoking pot and open your eyes. How can a group of people be so idiotic. It reminds me of LMN and his elitist Euro buddies. Completely misinformed and misguided.
    STOP ABORTIONS NOW! Even with r8pe and inc3st, abortions must end now! They are MURDER!

    Dakota, I thought you were a student of history, check the mortality rated for mother & unborn children before abortion was legal. That is if you are worried about useless deaths.Besides when did YOU grow a womb?
    Speaking of useless deaths, why are you a republican if you care at all? You root for the party that refuses to take care of our soldiers with care after they are wounded(veteran’s hospitals). 4 tours of duty for soldiers. Beinfits for soldiers. Ending a useless war that kills our soldiers. Since you voted for GWB your opinion involving politics should be over looked because of the faulty judgement you showed. Oh, BTW WHERE’S IS BIN LADEN????? Typical republican, support the wars but abandon the soldiers fighting, care more about the unborn than you do the people all ready alive. Disgusting belief system from a faction of people who crave nothing but power & money but shove their version of “holiness” in everyone’s face.

  1530. RaiderTW Says:

    Oh, by the way, Dakota, eyepatch, k-rock, don’t believe in global warming? Explain this:

    http://www.tothecenter.com/news.php?readmore=5833

    Perhaps it’s the wrath of your crazy/schizophrenic/vengeful GOD. What did the people in Iowa & Mississippi do to PISS him off? george bush doesn’t care about black people (Katrina0 george bush doesn’t care about WHITE people (Iowa). george bush doesn’t care about WET people. (Watch the Daily Show instead of Faux News).

  1531. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Anti abortionists are the worst terrorists this world has come across…

  1532. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Johny Rotten…

    better learn some history in stead of bible history… its not the same you know…

    The romans asked the J3ws what to do with Jesus… the J3ws told the romans that they wanted him dead, but the Romans thought that was far fetched, but indulged for peace in the region…

    K-Rock id the scholar of bible study, go talk to him about it… I stick to real history…

  1533. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dakota,Dakota,the days of lies and deceit are numberd,they will end November 7!!! Maybe then your eyes will see it takes all kinds of ideas and compromises to make the world a better place,not some sort of one-sided idealogical nonsense that a few try 2 ram down peoples throat in the name of patriotism

  1534. 4evaRaider Says:

    Typical religous right,right-wing bullshiot.Hey Dakota if and when someone rapes and impregnates your wife or daughter,will you love and nuture that unwanted child???

  1535. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4eva…

    of course! its what Jesus wants of him =)

  1536. 4evaRaider Says:

    nurture

  1537. La Milicia Negra Says:

    then could him and the child go watch some kobe in some lakers games

  1538. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning LaMilicia!!!Im suprised that you are up,let alone coherent.Ah!!! you prolly havent slept yet.VIVA ESPANA.Sorry I dont know how 2 make that squiggly thing above the P

  1539. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hell might as well bring “dad”too.One big happy family now

  1540. saintkaufman Says:

    Well, talk about your light early morning reading material.

  1541. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 1532 LMN; Just another example of the religous wrong trying 2 keep mankind down

  1542. 4evaRaider Says:

    Saintkaufman;just warming up!!!

  1543. RaiderTW Says:

    La Mil, sorry to have missed the “Euro” bashing about WW2, I didn’t know so many posters here “saved your Danish ass” during WW2 I figured they were much younger than 70-80 yrs old. They (flag waving, gay for america fanatics)take past war so seriously when you point out a few flaws, it’s like you attack their manhood here in america. But I have to point out how Prescot Bush (yes GHWB’s father & GWB’s grandfather) supported the Nazis with the most valuable commodity at the time that would get the Nazi army off the ground: $$$$$$$. But it’s best to ignore the important stuff like they do with global warning(if it doesn’t fit their belief system BS, then it needs to be ignored or blasted the people bringing it up as “no good s#!ts!!!!) But by pointing out the truth in their eyes I hate America (again their BS). Funny how truth is the staple of their religion but best to ignore that thing or they might go crazy!!!
    On a possitive note………….GO RAIDERS!!!!

    George Carlin:
    You Civil War reenactors should really use live ammo. You could raise the IQ level of Americans in one afternoon!!

  1544. saintkaufman Says:

    I guess we’re gonna sign Keller today, huh?

  1545. CopenhagenFan Says:

    yeah…let’s get back to Keller

  1546. CopenhagenFan Says:

    Do you guys think that Jevon is a junkie?

  1547. RaiderTW Says:

    Yeah, Keller is the answer!

  1548. saintkaufman Says:

    A junkie? No. Why?

  1549. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I am a junkie.

    Al Davis is the pusherman.

    Just win baby.

  1550. saintkaufman Says:

    I’m out.

  1551. 4evaRaider Says:

    a crackhead more likley.The short time from getting in arfat ride,comming back 2 cash out,fits the M.O.

  1552. 4evaRaider Says:

    Looks like the saints might be interested in Jordan

  1553. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4eva…

    yeah i’m alive and well =) I got monday off because I took some shifts last week =) so my workweek starts in 23 hours =)

    Nice long weeekend =) God Europe sucks =)

    /LMN

  1554. 4evaRaider Says:

    NEWS FLASH!!! Lane Kiffan head coach was at the Tampa Hard Rock Cafe saturday night celebrating Warren Sapps retirement party with dad Monte Kiffan.All proceeds went 2 the Childrens Cancer Center

  1555. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Guys… Keller have been signed for a few days now, they kicked out Erik Mayer to make room…

    though it good and all, I just gets me fired up… if we are going to see him, it means Jammy will be injured. So I cant see theres anything to rave about….

    I’d like us to stack up WR.. especially Adarius Bowman… he was nasty in College.. give him a weed-alizer or something and lets kick out Javon, Carter is my man in ‘08…

    I can see I’m rambling, but hey its my 2 cents =)

  1556. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4eva…

    thats a new one… i’m a fan of Kiffin, but no need to give the guy a new name…

  1557. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4eva…

    by that I mean…

    its KifFiN, some here writes KifFEN, you wrote KifFAN…

  1558. 4evaRaider Says:

    Lmn why does Europe suck,and the Netherlands is not part of Europe is it??? you guys dont use the Euro system do you???

  1559. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    La Milicia Negra,
    I do not watch soccer. Yesterday was the absolute
    exception. To be honest, I probably will not watch again until another major event. The quality of play and the action was spectaculor. It was riveting and exciting. The difference between a regular season game in any sport and the best of the best in a final.
    I finally saw a soccer game that was more exciting than watching paint dry. lol
    Go Espana!
    Go Raiders.

  1560. 4evaRaider Says:

    Kiffin got it thankz LMN

  1561. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4eva…

    again… I’m not from Holland/Netherlands, but yes they use the Euro, we don’t… we kept our currency…

    and the Europe sux, was sarcasm, that my week starts tuesday, at 1500 =)

  1562. La Milicia Negra Says:

    exLA…

    next time is in 2012, or the world Cup in South Africa in 2010…

    But in a few weeks the real soccer starts again, and I will have weekly again =)

  1563. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Holland/netherlands…

    at-rejse-er-at-leve.dk/kort/egne/holland.gif

    bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/lpg/bp_lpg_denmark/STAGING/local_assets/images/europaholbel_375×429.jpg

    and Denmark is….

    images.nationmaster.com/images/motw/europe/denmark_rel99.jpg

    two different people, two different nations… Period!

  1564. La Milicia Negra Says:

    take a look, and get it straight once for all… its like I was thinking Peru and US is the same thing….

  1565. Dakota Says:

    Dakota Says:
    You liberal pukes make me sick. Aborting every pregnancy while you live in trees. Quit smoking pot and open your eyes. How can a group of people be so idiotic. It reminds me of LMN and his elitist Euro buddies. Completely misinformed and misguided.
    STOP ABORTIONS NOW! Even with r8pe and inc3st, abortions must end now! They are MURDER!
    ______________________________________________________

    Troll alert:

    I did not say this. When MR is posting, always take other posts with a grain of salt.

    Well, actually, I agree with most of the troll’s comment (living in trees, pot smoking, and elitist Euros), but I do not agree with the second to last line. I do not believe in aborting healthy babies just for the convenience of the parents, but in cases of inc3st, r@pe and medical necessity there should be exceptions.

    It has nothing to do with God, just right and wrong…and I decide what is right and what is wrong for everyone! lol.

  1566. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMN ok I think I got it now .Havent looked at world globe ln many moons.Thanks 4 putting up with a geographically challenged american.Ahhh,the phone rings ,money comes in!!! Time 2 go do some work.Catch up later.RAIDER ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1567. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    thats good to know

  1568. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4eva… LOL

  1569. Oakglenn Says:

    That’s the problem with having conversations with MR or MoRon as he likes to be called. Next thing ya know we have tons of 1566. MR posting as others.

  1570. La Milicia Negra Says:

    okay… now we have passed the battle of Hastings…we have passed the Martin Luthers reformation… do we go to WW1 or the space odyssey before we get a new thread??

  1571. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Face it LMN, Denmark & Holland = same thing. Your Peru/US analogy is spurious. Try naming a country that is 200km away and you will have a valid comparison.

    Next you’ll be telling us Lichtenstein and Switzerland are worlds apart too.

  1572. I hate you guys Says:

    I say we talk about pretentious eruotrash — LMN, the floor is yours.

  1573. Dakota Says:

    Let’s talk Napoleon! And I mean Bonaparte, not Kaufman or McCallum!

  1574. Dakota Says:

    Or Harris!

    I think we hold the record for Napoleans on an NFL team.

  1575. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 7:52 am
    exLA…

    next time is in 2012, or the world Cup in South Africa in 2010…
    ——————————————————
    That’s just about right, once every 2 years!!! LOL

  1576. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo…

    okay, US and Mexico is the same thing…

  1577. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo…

    I could somewhat accept you guys thought Norway, Sweden or Denmark was the same, we have the same history and so on…

    but its just after WW2 Denmark and Holland is alike… due to our socializt way of thinking, as Dakota would say…

    Holland/Netherlands, did not concour Britain and ruled it for 250 years nor did they have any vikings….

  1578. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ExLA…

    that what make it so more exciting… 4 years between euro cup, so every other 2 year there is a major tournament…

  1579. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 8:54 am
    Bo…

    okay, US and Mexico is the same thing…
    _______________________________________________________

    We are getting very close to that point!

    Maybe I should throw some Spanish lessons in with my Chinese lessons?

  1580. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    Ha, yeah I have been thinking of dusting of my spanish.. haven’t used it for quite some time.. may I should go visit Cuba or something…

  1581. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    If you do visit Cuba, just remember to bring protection!

  1582. Dakota Says:

    Oh wait, Aids in Cuba is virtually stopped…they test everyone for it and then they imprison anyone that tests positive…

  1583. Johnny Rebel Says:

    It was really just a crowd of followers on a street that was asked to choose.

  1584. Johnny Rebel Says:

    James or Jesus and they liked James more.

  1585. Thec Says:

    Dakota, Are you really learning chinese? Which dialect are you learning?

  1586. Dakota Says:

    No, but I plan on eating some for lunch…

  1587. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Thec…

    I think it was an ongoing joke between me and Dakota…

    Hey Bo, I could have said LA and Bay area is the same thing… just as misleading…

  1588. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Muahhahaha 1587… good one =)

  1589. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Thank God. My hangovers are on retreat…

  1590. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 9:25 am

    Thank God. My hangovers are on retreat…
    __________________________________________________

    …thanks to air support from the USA!

  1591. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    if you gonna call Coke airsupport, well okay then =)

  1592. Johnny Rebel Says:

    In response to your insult La Milicia the only reason Pilot let the sect choose who to save is because Pilot was outnumbered if he had went ahead and killed them both. Thats why the Romans arrested James and Jesus in the first place is that they had gotten wind of a uprising. The Romans could have cared less about peace in the region, Pilot just did not want to get hung by an angry mob that day. I don’t know what history you are reading but its not very accurate.

  1593. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LMN, to the rest of the world the Bay Area and LA are the same thing: plastic fantastic.

    The same approach is valid for Denamrk/Holland. With so many similarities, the minor differences (so dear to locals) prove meaningless to the broader public.

    The same is true for:

    > Spain/Portugal
    > Australia/NewZealand
    > Scotland/England
    > Southern US/armpit

    Speaking of armpits, what say we let Puerto Rico become a state and combine North and South Dakota to keep an even 50?

  1594. Time is Right for Winning Says:

    I went to a free Oakland As game this weekend (where they were used to mop the floor with) vs the Giants. My God I had forgotten how boring that sport is. No amount of beer could have helped make it a little exciting.

    There where a few times when I saw the out fielders for both teams yawning a few times.

    Americas past time my arse! Raider games are hundreds of time more exciting. After a while I was cheering “Leave Oakland!!” or “Cover up my infield!”.

  1595. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I didn’t know they had plane then, pretty cool of the romans to have a pilot…

    But it doesn’t matter Pontius Pilate was outnumbered, the was the only force present.. numbers didn’t matter… it was his own who let him get killed.. in fact thats a major point of Jesus life….

  1596. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Thats b.s. you read from the bible, the mob was already armed but had no leadership because the Romans had them.

  1597. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo…

    true so very true… but we have pretty similar history to Sweden (norway was under Danish or Swedish rule most of their existence), where Netherlands history is more like the Swiss, belgium and lichthenstein…

    But today(after 1960’s), Holland/netherlands, Denmark, Norway or sweden are more like eachother, and are proud of it…

    To you our englis is pretty much similar too, i guess… same weird quirks…

  1598. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Most of the crowd present was from Qumran and supported James. It was just bad luck for Jesus.

  1599. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Johny

    again.. you read the bible, I read history books…

  1600. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Yeah right lol. Are you a christian?

  1601. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    How can GOD have bad luck?

  1602. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Thats why Jesus became unpopular proclaiming to be God. His ministry lasted 1 year and James’s lasted 20 years, you figure it out.

  1603. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo…

    Muhahhaha yeah good point =)

    well my point is that jesus was brought to us people so his own could get him killed, for the ’souls’ of future people…..

  1604. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LOL. Only 1600+ posts and we have arrived at Jesus’ divinity. Now can we complete the circle and get back to Al Davis?

    And where is Dakota? I thought he would be defending the Brokeback Hills he calls home…

    Cali smoke knock out his satelite?

  1605. Johnny Rebel Says:

    In the beginning man created God, like 28,000 b.c.

  1606. La Milicia Negra Says:

    yeah I think I might go for a while, hangovers and bible talk just don’t mix =)

  1607. Dakota Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 9:43 am

    Speaking of armpits, what say we let Puerto Rico become a state and combine North and South Dakota to keep an even 50?
    ______________________________________________________

    not funny!

    North Dakota is a complete hole…South Dakota is beautiful!

  1608. Dakota Says:

    ND:

    http://www.barraclou.com/photo/skyline/nd/north_dakota.jpg

  1609. Dakota Says:

    SD:

    http://www.d-travel.com/images/South-Dakota-01.jpg

  1610. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I can see why they need spirit in ND…

  1611. Dakota Says:

    SD:

    http://www.wadih-ghsoubi.com/Nature/3/original/Moon%20Over%20Mount%20Rushmore,%20South%20Dakota.jpg

  1612. Dakota Says:

    ND:

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2371/2356142045_147a4845dd.jpg

  1613. La Milicia Negra Says:

    have they ever arrested the guy who ruined the mountain?? I mean the socalled patriot who vandalized the mountain?

  1614. Dakota Says:

    SD party:

    http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/1607763.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939057D9939C83F106A7196C7F15E0B7155A5397277B4DC33E

  1615. Dakota Says:

    ND party:

    http://engagingconflicts.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/sheep-looking-into-camera.jpg

  1616. Andrews mom Says:

    Bummer, MR did not grade my attempt. Oh well, maybe next time.

  1617. Dakota Says:

    This one if for LMN,

    http://www.sturgis-rally.com/cart/images/msp05/P-12aug11-05-5pmbig.jpg

  1618. MR Says:

    Jim (Ct Raider),

    Comparing Jesus to an animal, huh? That’s new.

    And, most people who sit on their couches and take hand outs aren’t even liberal. Talk to anyone who works in the advertising department at NASCAR.

    That being said, I was more referring to Jesus’s views on peace and love, views considered to be a weakness by modern day conservatives. If Jesus is alive today, according to American conservatives, he’d be a pacifist coward.

    And, besides, I don’t know if Jesus would be as conservative economically as you think. Who the heck survives on fish these days, anyway? There was no Halliburton when Jesus walked the earth. You’re trying to make it sound as if Jesus spent most of his days trading stocks on his cell phone, while ignoring homeless people asking him for change. In this world where big businesses destroys the planet, I can see Jesus being a union leader.

    Jesus is more liberal than anyone walking the planet today.

  1619. MR Says:

    Andrew’s mom, I was referring to MaddenRaider gets under my skin, with the grading thing. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were more mature and had better things to do. My mistake.

    So, you compared me to your father’s ex girlfriend, was that it? I didn’t read it thoroughly, I more less skimmed. But what I picked up, and what you perhaps might have missed yourself, is that as much of a bitch as she may have been, she was obviously stronger than your father. She’s strong, your father’s weak. So, I’ll take the comparison to her.

    Therefore, that put down would have to be a “D-”.

  1620. Dakota Says:

    LMN…some Mount Rushmore history…we really pulled one over on Calvin:

    Presidential Attention

    In the spring of 1927, President Calvin Coolidge decided to spend his three-week summer holiday in the Black Hills.

    State officials immediately began preparing for the visit by remodeling the rustic State Game Lodge in Custer State Park, which was selected to be Coolidge’s “summer White House.”

    On June 15, Senator Norbeck and 10,000 South Dakotans warmly greeted President and Mrs. Coolidge, their two dogs and the First Lady’s pet raccoon, as they stepped from the train in Rapid City. They were soon settled comfortably into the Game Lodge and the Dakotan way of life. Their three-week visit turned into a three-month stay.

    Coolidge couldn’t have known that his fishing skills were greatly enhanced by park officials. Before the president’s arrival, chicken wire was stretched across the creek upstream and downstream from the president’s quarters. Lunker trout from a nearby fish hatchery were trucked in nightly—so many that Coolidge couldn’t help but fill his creel as he “learned to fish.”

    This extended vacation allowed Borglum and Norbeck enough time to convince Coolidge to participate in the formal dedication of Mount Rushmore. On August 10, the president rode horseback to the mountain, sporting cowboy boots and a 10- gallon hat given to him by local residents.

    “We have come here to dedi-cate a cornerstone laid by the hand of the Almighty,” Coolidge told a crowd of 1,000 South Dakotans. In an impassioned speech by a man not known for his passion, Coolidge became the first to refer to Mount Rushmore as a “national shrine,” then pledged federal support for the project.

    After listening with satisfaction to the president’s remarks, the 60-year-old Borglum climbed to the mountain’s craggy summit and symbolically drilled six holes to mark the commencement of carving. The Mount Rushmore dream would em-brace the remaining 14 years of his life and leave a monument unlike any other.

  1621. MR Says:

    Johnny Rebel,

    I said to name one single individual human being that’s more responsible for the Raiders losing 61`games in the past 5 years than Al Davis. The reason you haven’t named one yet is because there isn’t one…no matter how you spin it.

  1622. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dakota,
    I used to go to a men’s clothing store in Yankton called the Globe. Then west to cover accounts near the Missouri River near the reservations and then back North to Worthington. Beautiful country which every one should have the opportunity to see. Except for the speed trap on the interstate near Worthington. I knew I was in trouble when sitting in front seat, the trooper has a brass name plate under the radar detector. lol.

  1623. MR Says:

    Dakota, very few people under the age of 65 take Mount Rushmore seriously. Nobody visits it. They did a report on how the place is always littered with trash anymore. People get out for a few seconds, and throw their McDonald’s bags right over the barrier.

  1624. La Milicia Negra Says:

    funny story… still sad :/

  1625. MR Says:

    What’s sad is that there’s slave owners up on a freaking rock that old white people, to this day, still pay homage too. F’k Mount Rushmore. Here’s another reason to not take it seriously…there’s a movement taking place to put George W. Bush up there. I actually hope they do, because it would solidify my point that the whole thing is a joke. Soon as Bush goes up, nobody, of any age, would take that thing seriously anymore. It’d be filled with graffiti.

  1626. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”Free agent Isaiah Kacyvenski hopes to return to the NFL this season. Kacyvenski, once a special teams star with Seattle, tore cartilage in his left knee during Raiders camp last summer and was released with an injury settlement. He says he’ll consider retirement if no teams call him by Week 4. Jun. 30 – 2:06 p.m. ET”—

  1627. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Hilarious how pathetic MR is. He even attacks Mt. Rushmore in his neverending quest for negative attention.

    Hey MR, can you dis Mother Teresa next? She was such a self-serving poseur…

  1628. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 10:43 am
    Andrew’s mom, I was referring to MaddenRaider gets under my skin, with the grading thing. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were more mature and had better things to do. My mistake.

    So, you compared me to your father’s ex girlfriend, was that it? I didn’t read it thoroughly, I more less skimmed. But what I picked up, and what you perhaps might have missed yourself, is that as much of a bitch as she may have been, she was obviously stronger than your father. She’s strong, your father’s weak. So, I’ll take the comparison to her.

    Therefore, that put down would have to be a “D-”.

    ..
    MR those two letters D & F ..pretty much sum up your elementary and high school years..i would expect nothing less from you..oh by the way..when you post your brainless thoughts to me..please dont lump me in with your two boyfriends olglenn an mrley..i have no clue who they are and you are always writing about them..and take the thug test..if you pass i will leave this blog..just like you did..LOL

  1629. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR Says:
    June 29th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
    MR gets under my skin,

    Congrats on the chick. And, I really believe you.

    ..
    thanks MR..living in Redondo Beach has a few rewards..
    and i never believe you..

  1630. Dakota Says:

    MR,

    You need to see someone that can help you with your issues.

    You are in my prayers.

  1631. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 1619 MR you are correct:Jesus is the MOST liberal individual person on the planet today or anyday.He would send the religious right straight 2 eternal damnation!!!!

  1632. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR..i will catch you later..the beach is were im going..my hope is you can pull chicks to someday..your on this blog so much i dont see how..late

  1633. Dakota Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 11:28 am
    post 1619 MR you are correct:Jesus is the MOST liberal individual person on the planet today or anyday.He would send the religious right straight 2 eternal damnation!!!!
    _______________________________________________________
    4evaRaider,

    You mean Jesus would support this:

    http://www.republicanvoices.org/Partial-Birth_Abortion.jpg

  1634. Regis Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 7:59 am
    “Dakota Says:
    You liberal pukes make me sick. Aborting every pregnancy while you live in trees. Quit smoking pot and open your eyes. How can a group of people be so idiotic. It reminds me of LMN and his elitist Euro buddies. Completely misinformed and misguided.
    STOP ABORTIONS NOW! Even with r8pe and inc3st, abortions must end now! They are MURDER!
    ______________________________________________________

    Troll alert:

    I did not say this. When MR is posting, always take other posts with a grain of salt.

    Well, actually, I agree with most of the troll’s comment (living in trees, pot smoking, and elitist Euros), but I do not agree with the second to last line. I do not believe in aborting healthy babies just for the convenience of the parents, but in cases of inc3st, r@pe and medical necessity there should be exceptions.

    It has nothing to do with God, just right and wrong…and I decide what is right and what is wrong for everyone! lol.”

    I love this blog, you can say anything and then if a bunch of people get mad at you, just say it was a troll. Good cop out Dakota.

    Most of us know it was really you, stirring the pot as usual. The truth comes out of you late at night.

    I am not fooled by your bs at all. I know that YOU POSTED THIS!

  1635. MR Says:

    Mother Theresa will never get dissed by me. One of the great people in history. But why compare her to the slave owners on Mount Rushmore? You’ve done more injustice to her with that comparison than anyone could.

  1636. MR Says:

    MR gets under my skin, I hardly knew ya. I stepped away for a few minutes. Sorry I missed you. Ahh, who are we kidding? You haven’t gone anywhere. Welcome back, kid. So, how went the date last night? Because I’m sure you really had one…

  1637. La Milicia Negra Says:

    regarding post 1619…

    I read a book from a danish author many years ago, where the synopsis was Jesus was a commi, in the eyes of americans, that is. Which meant they missed the following of jesus and christianity and became more messy than they were…

    it was called Comrade Jesus… very funny =)

  1638. Regis Says:

    Just kidding Dakota, I know that was not you, it was MR trying to turn people against you. I would not fall for bs like that. I got your back.

  1639. MR Says:

    And, Bo Jackson, I watched a news story on how the viewing area at Mt. Rushmore is always littered with trash. So I guess I’m not alone. After all, I’ve never been to the place. Wouldn’t even notice it if I drove by it. Who cares?

  1640. Dakota Says:

    WTF?

  1641. MR Says:

    Dakota, what would Jesus say about a bunch of old white people worshiping slave owners on a rock? Isn’t it a sin to worship anyone other than God? In that regard, I’m praying for you.

  1642. Dakota Says:

    MR Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 11:39 am

    And, Bo Jackson, I watched a news story on how the viewing area at Mt. Rushmore is always littered with trash. So I guess I’m not alone. After all, I’ve never been to the place. Wouldn’t even notice it if I drove by it. Who cares?
    ______________________________________________________
    MR,

    You are such a lying douchebag:

    http://www.civicimages.com/im/united_states/south_dakota/mount-rushmore-010.jpg

    Boy, this image taken by a tourist really shows how dirty Mt. Rushmore is…you ignorant fuking liar.

  1643. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dakota,
    Have they finished the mountain of Sitting Bull yet?

  1644. Dakota Says:

    Exla,

    Crazy Horse, and no they are not even close…

  1645. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dakota,post 1634 Absolutely,and he would love and comfort the mother no matter what drove her 2 such an action

  1646. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Oops, Thx for the correction.

  1647. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Oops, Thx for the correction.

  1648. MR Says:

    Dakota, do you seriously believe that calling me a liar, or “fraud boy” really hurts my feelings? I am a liar, I have admitted that long ago. I root for the Charges and I like to come on this site to mess with you Raiders fans. So what? Sue me you right-wing fanatic.

  1649. MR Says:

    Dakota, there was a news report done a couple of years ago showing how littered the place was. I’m telling you, the place is a mess. Nobody cares about it.

  1650. La Milicia Negra Says:

    1650… the year where my regiment was founded!

  1651. La Milicia Negra Says:

    dang, too slow =)

  1652. Dakota Says:

    4eva,

    Only if she asked for forgiveness…8)

  1653. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Muhaha, when I think about it, My regiment was founded in 1658…

  1654. MR Says:

    Not bad, clone, with # 1649. I’d actually rather be a cloned as a Charger fan than a Niner fan. Where do you guys keep getting the idea I like the Niners? My god, please stop with that. I hate that team and their fans. The Chargers are nothing to be proud of, either. But I’ll take their fans over these cheese eating, wine drinking obnoxious Niner fans in the Sac valley any day.

  1655. Dakota Says:

    MR Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 11:51 am
    Dakota, do you seriously believe that calling me a liar, or “fraud boy” really hurts my feelings? I am a liar, I have admitted that long ago. I root for the Charges and I like to come on this site to mess with you Raiders fans. So what? Sue me you right-wing fanatic.
    _______________________________________________________

    There you have it folks, he finally admits what we have known all along…he is not a Raiders’ fan…

  1656. MR Says:

    That was a clone, Dakota. I bleed Silver and Black, more so than most of you, which is why I’m demanding Al Davis’s retirement. I know it’s the only way we’ll ever win again.

    But I’m glad he cloned me as a Dolt fan rather than a Whiner fan, for once. He’s mixing it up. Good for him.

  1657. MR Says:

    LOL. Why am I telling Dakota that it was a clone posting as me, knowing it was him? I’m too nice.

  1658. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Yeaah 350 years since my Regiment was founded… did I do it?

  1659. Dakota Says:

    sure

  1660. La Milicia Negra Says:

    hmmm I’m just plain slow to day =) Hehe

  1661. Dakota Says:

    Two can play this game….

    Stop making fun of Mount Rushmore!! And you’d better believe Bush will be up there!!!

    God bless this great country! God bless everyone except for anyone who criticizes George W. Bush! May they burn in hell!

    Sincerley,

    not really Dakota, just a clone, having fun.. :)

  1662. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
    Yeaah 350 years since my Regiment was founded… did I do it?
    _____________________________________________________

    Back when they had to hand-wash all the clothes???

  1663. MR Says:

    Yeh, Dakota, if I’m a Dolt fan operating undercover as a Raider fan to sneak in here and bash Al, why do I admit it and blow my cover? Learn how to clone, idiot. Not my fault you were so easy to spot.

  1664. Dakota Says:

    MR,

    I am used to you posting things as me, so it doesn’t bother me…but I’ll bet whoever posted as MR is having a good laugh about you blaming me!

  1665. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    what do you mean? are there other ways to clean clothes? I go to the river, thats why I’m so glad we have water without chemicals…

  1666. MR Says:

    Dakota, when you clone on blogs and message board, you’re supposed to use subtleties to make the person look stupid, that way people are really confused as to rather or not it’s them. You can’t just come out and say, “I’m a 49er fan!!”, or “I’m a charger fan!!”, or “I’m gay! I’m going to the gay pride parade”. A tad bit too obvious, Dakota. Don’t you get that? I always welcome you guys to clone my name. But do it right. Be original.

  1667. Dakota Says:

    MR,

    You know I think you are a Broncos’ fan from Natrona County Wyoming…

  1668. Dakota Says:

    Mary Steed…

  1669. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMN you can be excused today you had a party that was 44 years in the making last night

  1670. MR Says:

    Mary Steed was me. Trying to duck and dodge the man, know what I’m saying? Had to use a few aliases. They seem to be letting me run with MR, so I’m sticking with it. No, I’m not a Bronco fan, and I wouldn’t go to Wyoming if my life depended on it. Boring place full of rednecks. I’ll pass. I’m a Raider fan, from Sacramento.

  1671. Dakota Says:

    Well, that explains your fixation with the Lakers…

  1672. MR Says:

    Sacramento…80 miles from Oakland, btw. About an hour freeway drive. Born and raised on the Raiders. Everyone in the neighborhood I grew up in is Raider fans. And, they’re all disgusted with the losing. These are local fans, who were on board from day one. Lamonica, Stabler. And, they bash Al all the time. Give him credit for the good he’s done, but aren’t afraid to admit that he’s lost his mind. That’s how local Raider fans, in and around the bay area, feel about Al, for the most part. It’s idiots out in tenbucktoo Wyoming who like the Raiders solely for all of Al’s stupid mythology. We want the team to win. We have to deal with these Whiner fans out here. It’s a non stop game of one upmanship. Same goes for the fans in LA, vs. the Chargers. You yokels out in the yonder just don’t get that. You guys have the luxury to buy into all of this stupid mythology.

  1673. Dakota Says:

    MR playing the cowbell at the Kings-Lakers game:

    http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/582445.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CED2A1562A789C278A284831B75F48EF45

  1674. MR Says:

    I loved the Lakers when I was a kid. Magic, Kareem, James, Pat, the whole town and the whole city. Used to love going to LA. Demanded my dad took me to a Dodger game. Would have loved to go to a Laker game in the ’80s if you could get a ticket. I don’t know what happened to that organization, and its fans. It’s sad. Both on the court, and off. We see now what the Lakers can do without Shaq and the refs….

  1675. Dakota Says:

    MR Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    We have to deal with these Whiner fans out here. It’s a non stop game of one upmanship. Same goes for the fans in LA, vs. the Chargers. You yokels out in the yonder just don’t get that. You guys have the luxury to buy into all of this stupid mythology.
    _______________________________________________________

    I live 5 hours from Denver…I deal with it too…

    Besides…I petitioned to have AD evaluated and removed from power!

  1676. The High School Graduates of Sacramento Says:

    Denver is closer to Sacto than Oakland. Go Broncos. And Niners

  1677. Dakota Says:

    STATE OF CALIFORNIA IN CIRCUIT COURT
    COUNTY OF ALAMEDA JUDICIAL CIRCUIT

    RAIDER NATION,
    Plaintiff,

    v. ORDER FOR PSYCHIATRIC
    AL DAVIS EXAMINATION
    Defendant.

    A motion has been made by Raider Nation, the aggrieved party in this case, requesting the Defendant to submit to a psychiatric examination and the Defendant has entered a plea of not guilty and not guilty by reason of mental illness to the charges against him.

    It is, therefore,
    ORDERED, that the Defendant be committed to the Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services at 2000 Embarcadero Cove, Suite 400, Oakland, CA 94606 for examination to determine the following:

    1. Whether the Defendant has the present ability to understand the nature and purpose of winning in the National Football League;

    2. Whether, at the time and place of the request for the resignation of Lane Kiffin as head coach of the Oakland Raiders, the Defendant was capable of knowing the wrongfulness of that act.

    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that such determination be promptly communicated to the Raider Nation. It is further

    ORDERED that the Sheriff of this County transport and convey said Defendant, Al Davis, to the Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services at 2000 Embarcadero Cove, Suite 400, Oakland, CA 94606 and deliver him into the custody of Satan, or his representative and that said Defendant remain in the custody of Satan until the examination is completed.

    Dated this 25th day of January, 2008.

    BY THE COURT:
    _______________________________________
    Circuit Court Judge

    ATTEST:
    ______________________________ Clerk of Court
    (SEAL)

  1678. Dakota Says:

    Damn formatting never transfers correctly!

  1679. MR Says:

    You’re right, Dakota, those cowbells were no match for the corrupted officials. I don’t know what those idiots were thinking.

    BTW, I’m not that big of a Kings fan anymore, and really even wasn’t when they were good a few years ago. I actually liked the team a few years before the Maloofs bought it. I liked Gary St. Jean’s team, Spud, Mitch, Walt, B. Grant, they were a budding team. It’s just that turd owner (from LA, no surprise) wouldn’t get them the pieces they needed in the FA market. Only Mitch Richmond got the big check. Everyone else was on the cheap. Maloofs took over, sprayed their money all over the place. Great…except for the fact that every bandwagon fat bitch in town became a Kings fans. Families and kids started showing up to the games (used to be you could go to a game, buy standing room, and find an empty seat on the first level by half time). It’s been a zoo, since. Good luck getting a ticket. No standing room. You’ve got to shell out serious cash to someone selling them in the paper. Screw those idiots and their cowbells. I’m torn between being upset at how the refs screwed the Kings, and being perfectly pleased with the fact that those bandwagon a-holes with their stupid cowbells got what they had coming. In the early ’90s these heffers coulnd’t find their way to Arco.

  1680. Charger Says:

    Are you Faiduhs ready for another losing season? Commitment to Blackouts continues. Uncle Al will save us from ourselves! The Raider Nation is nothing more than a 3rd world country. Mostly populated by all of the babies made by 1st round BUST Darren McFaidden.

    Taste the chocolate rain b*tches!

  1681. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Charger

    At least we have won the BIG ONE! Please do enlighten us on some Charger history or choking in the playoffs…

    Not to mention we found out how soft LT was last year.

    That guy sat out the big game what a pillow biter.

    LT IS SOFT!!!

  1682. MR Says:

    No real Sacramentan would be caught dead with a cowbell. We have too much of an inferiority complex. We’re a mini Oakland, that way. Those idiots with the bells were yuppies that just moved to Sac in the past decade or so.

  1683. Dakota Says:

    MR Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
    You’re right, Dakota, those cowbells were no match for the corrupted officials. I don’t know what those idiots were thinking.

    BTW, I’m not that big of a Kings fan anymore, and really even wasn’t when they were good a few years ago. I actually liked the team a few years before the Maloofs bought it. I liked Gary St. Jean’s team, Spud, Mitch, Walt, B. Grant, they were a budding team. It’s just that turd owner (from LA, no surprise) wouldn’t get them the pieces they needed in the FA market. Only Mitch Richmond got the big check. Everyone else was on the cheap. Maloofs took over, sprayed their money all over the place. Great…except for the fact that every bandwagon fat bitch in town became a Kings fans. Families and kids started showing up to the games (used to be you could go to a game, buy standing room, and find an empty seat on the first level by half time). It’s been a zoo, since. Good luck getting a ticket. No standing room. You’ve got to shell out serious cash to someone selling them in the paper. Screw those idiots and their cowbells. I’m torn between being upset at how the refs screwed the Kings, and being perfectly pleased with the fact that those bandwagon a-holes with their stupid cowbells got what they had coming. In the early ’90s these heffers coulnd’t find their way to Arco.
    _______________________________________________________
    MR,

    Seriously dude, they have medications that can help guys like you. You will no longer have to be angry at EVERYTHING!

    Do I need to petition the court for you too???

    It is for your own good!

  1684. 4evaRaider Says:

    Charger and hes gay like you

  1685. MR Says:

    Oakland is just over an hour drive from Sacramento. Denver is in Colorado. Now I believe you graduated from a public school in Sac. It’s showing. Private schools too, for that matter. Christian Brothers and Jesuit churned out nothing but idiots, too. Jesuit’s a basketball factory, anymore. Gives poor blacks from Oak Park and the Heights free tuition to go there, giving them an edge over b ball powerhouses like Sac High. Scaring off all the rich white people, making them put their daughters in home studies.

  1686. 4evaRaider Says:

    and oh yeah,Charger HOWS MY ASS TASTE

  1687. MR Says:

    I’ve got my medication, Dakota. That’s the one thing we do have in California.

  1688. MR Says:

    Chargers isn’t me, 4evaRaider. Calm down.

  1689. Dakota Says:

    Maybe they need adjusting?

  1690. MR Says:

    Oh, I’ll always take something more potent, Dakota. My pharmacist usually lets me know when something comes along.

  1691. 909raiderlifer Says:

    LMN……1652

    The year, my ancestors on my dad’s side of the family, came to America from Ireland.

  1692. MR Says:

    I hate people that know their genealogy. Screw you guys. Have no clue what my family’s is. This guy told me once that it means my family is from England. If you’re white, and you don’t know, you’re a Brit. It’s that simple. You’d know if it was Spanish, by surname. Everything else is recent enough to where you’d know for sure. Whatever. I have some Cherokee in me, too. That’s all I recognize, ethnic wise. Even though I’m white as a ghost. It’s my prerogative.

  1693. Florida Pete Says:

    Laramie, Wyoming…

    has got to be one of the best party places in the US…

    great place…

  1694. La Milicia Negra Says:

    909…
    in roughly 100 post the independence… Jerry are you back??

  1695. MR Says:

    Sure there’s a lot of diversity there, too, Florida Pete.

  1696. Dakota Says:

    Irish and German myself…but judging from the size of my junk I might have some African in me too.

  1697. Dakota Says:

    or maybe I just have small hands???

  1698. 4evaRaider Says:

    MR I didnt think charger was you.Thats just how i would talk 2 any chocker donkey or squaw.RAIDER ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1699. MR Says:

    Dakota, if you’ve got “African” sized junk, why are you in here so much? Do you realize the reason why most of us are in here is because we certainly do not have African sized junk? You should start dating, Dakota. Don’t kid yourself. Size does matter. Any girl will tell you.

  1700. MR Says:

    Well thank you for letting me know that there’s other people who you guys ask the question as to how your ass tastes, too. Takes some heat off me. Really. Carry on.

  1701. Dakota Says:

    MR Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
    Dakota, if you’ve got “African” sized junk, why are you in here so much? Do you realize the reason why most of us are in here is because we certainly do not have African sized junk? You should start dating, Dakota. Don’t kid yourself. Size does matter. Any girl will tell you.
    ______________________________________________________

    Married…

  1702. Dakota Says:

    Jerry where are you? Only women take more than a week off of work to mourn.

  1703. Quagmire'd Says:

    Damn, Dak- not cool.

  1704. KoolKell's Ghost Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
    “Irish and German myself…but judging from the size of my junk I might have some African in me too.”

    Someone that feels the need to say something like this on a football blog obviously is overcompensating for the shortcomings that make him so insecure.

  1705. Dakota Says:

    Sheesh, you guys have no sense of humor.

  1706. Dakota Says:

    ….but really Jerry, unless you had to fly to the Ukraine and are waiting for the ground to thaw before you have the services, you need to get your azz back to work.

  1707. Dakota Says:

    Read a self-help book or something…and then get back to work…working will help the healing process begin.

  1708. Dakota Says:

    Al Davis died in October of 1999, and he was back at work in less than 72 hours!

  1709. Florida Pete Says:

    MR…

    Laramie, Wyoming, home of the Univ of Wyoming Cowboys…

    does have a football team, and a basketball team…

    ergo…

    Laramie does have people of color…

    and no, i do not deny that these football and basketball players comprise approximately 95% of the Negro population of Wyoming…

  1710. 4evaRaider Says:

    Or Jerry could come here.There are many caring “shrinks”in here and we could save him$$$

  1711. Dakota Says:

    Pete,

    I think you have to say “African American” and not “Negro”.

    Be careful, we have some sensitive people on this board.

  1712. Florida Pete Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    Al Davis died in October of 1999, and he was back at work in less than 72 hours!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    now i understand the need to new “blood”…

    really, has anyone seen Al exposed to direct sunlight in the past 8 years ???

  1713. Dakota Says:

    Pete, it happened last year at the Dolphins game…here was the result:

    http://vampires.monstrous.com/pictures/killing_vampire02.jpg

    Thankfully there are some gifted plastic sourgoens in the Bay Area!

  1714. Florida Pete Says:

    gotta question…

    do Hispanics, who do not speak English, have to use the English word “Black” to describe an individual who is “Negro” in Spanish???

  1715. Dakota Says:

    surgeons

  1716. 4evaRaider Says:

    Florida Pete;ask LMN

  1717. Dakota Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
    gotta question…

    do Hispanics, who do not speak English, have to use the English word “Black” to describe an individual who is “Negro” in Spanish???
    ______________________________________________________

    No, to be PC they have to call them Norteamericanos Africanos.

  1718. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Muhahahahahaha

    Damn you guys are funny… LOL

  1719. Dakota Says:

    But they can call me galleta blanca, I really don’t care.

  1720. MR Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    Pete,

    I think you have to say “African American” and not “Negro”.

    Be careful, we have some sensitive people on this board.

    ……

    Yeh, tell me about it. Don’t say anything bad about Mount Rushmore.

  1721. Florida Pete Says:

    i am taking notes…

    i am getting some really good stuff here…

    thanks…

    and to all my negro friends…

    black is beautiful !!!!

    La Raza !!!

    going home now…

  1722. MR Says:

    BTW, Dakota, referring to African Americans as “black” is perfectly acceptable. Always has been. Is there something else you’d like to call them? Is that your beef? You can always call them “thugs”. We’ll know what you mean. That’s Johnny Rebel’s policy.

  1723. MR Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Sheesh, you guys have no sense of humor.

    ………

    This coming from the guy who can’t take a quip about Mount Rushmore having slave owners on it. Even your hero Bush would have gotten a kick out of that, Dakota. He would have rolled with the punch, came back with something. You blew your wad. So don’t accuse others of not having a sense of humor. When it comes to the wide range of things you take seriously, you have no sense of humor, either. That’s common knowledge in here.

  1724. La Milicia Negra Says:

    two of my favorite quotes…

    “I’m Black and I’m proud of it” (said by an Irish)

    “Always bet on black”

  1725. MR Says:

    Pete, Laramie is known for violent gay bashing. Is that why you left?

  1726. MR Says:

    And, Dakota, what’s it matter if you’re married? We’re talking about sex, here. Your wife cheats on you…well, if she looks good she does. If she doesn’t, then that’s the only reason she’s not. It would mean you’re the best she can do. People are only as faithful as their options. So, go out and let the ladies of Montana in on your African sized junk. If you wife could do better than you, she would.

  1727. KoolKell Says:

    Dude’s living in South Dakota, and he’s worried about what to call Blacks? sheesh, what’s your problem?

  1728. MR Says:

    He seems to opine on the black experience in America an awful lot for someone who needs not be “worried” about blacks. Why do you think they live out there in the sticks to begin with, Kell?

  1729. La Milicia Negra Says:

    hey guys, it was a funny question, nothing more, and btw it was FL pete, who asked it =)

  1730. MR Says:

    To keep the Africans and their “junk” away from his wife and daughters.

  1731. MR Says:

    …And to keep his wife and daughters away from the Africans and their “junk”. You’d better believe it.

  1732. KoolKell Says:

    To stay as far away as possible. IMHO ;)

  1733. KoolKell Says:

    Then, they’ll turn around and call ME a racist ;-)

  1734. KoolKell Says:

    All of a sudden I’m s-e-n-s-i-t-i-v-e

  1735. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Patriots, D-back Willie Andrews has been arrested again. 2nd. time since SB XLII. Thi time for assault w/ a dangerous weapon.

    per, pft.com.

  1736. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I don’t think this is the real KoolKell

  1737. KoolKell Says:

    It’s me LMN, I’m not angry or anything, it’s just that I have to deal with the innuendo sooooo much.

  1738. MR Says:

    That’s right, Kell. Reverse racism is destroying this country. And so is white guilt. If we can just get back to standard anti black racism, everything will be fine…

  1739. MR Says:

    Jerry, your dad is already 10 years into his next life. We love the guy. But come on. New topic.

  1740. 4evaRaider Says:

    All this money and still dont know how 2 act.Why do you think people came up with nick names like “Teflon Don,invisible slick no-name or they were simply called MOBSTERS.WHY,because they had money SOOOOOOO they PAID OTHER PEOPLE 2 do their dirty reeds 4 them.Smart thug,mobster Smart!!!

  1741. K-Rock Says:

    Wonder if this thread will reach 2000 comments?

    Just about all subjects have been covered…

    How about Life on other planets?

  1742. La Milicia Negra Says:

    K-rock…

    yeah… good one..

  1743. 4evaRaider Says:

    charger is from Uranus

  1744. Florida Pete Says:

    about 20 years ago i bought a very nice shirt with a logo that reminded me of my home planet…

    it made me very happy…

  1745. Dakota Says:

    MR Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
    BTW, Dakota, referring to African Americans as “black” is perfectly acceptable. Always has been. Is there something else you’d like to call them? Is that your beef? You can always call them “thugs”. We’ll know what you mean. That’s Johnny Rebel’s policy.
    _____________________________________________________

    I never said it wasn’t acceptable…can’t you read moron?

  1746. MR Says:

    Dakota, don’t get so worked up. You’ve got African sized junk, remember?

  1747. MR Says:

    Today, at Sporting News.com (though google news search: “Lane Kiffin, Al Davis”)

    “If the rumors are accurate, Kiffin could be pushed out — even before training camp. Such a move would be highly unusual, but Oakland owner Al Davis supposedly views the offensive and defensive coordinators as the two keys to the coaching staff, and he believes the head coach is an easily replaced game-day manager.

    Even if Kiffin coaches the Raiders in Week 1 against the Broncos — and he probably will — he needs to have a big year. Whether that includes a playoff appearance remains to be seen. If the Raiders are on the wrong side of .500 again, it’s a safe bet that Kiffin will be the latest in a line of Oakland coaches who didn’t survive more than two seasons on the job.”

  1748. 408RAIDER Says:

    freakin slave drivers not lettin me get my blog on… good afternoon NATION…

    Dakota not all people who poke smot are tree huggers or baby killers,,,, FYI

  1749. McCain's Best Fundraiser Says:

    John? We need help. I thought this was supposed to be a Raider blog. Now it’s about astronomy, like Uranus. And what’s African sized junk? John, pass a bill NOW to help us out. John? John? JOHN!!!

  1750. saintkaufman Says:

    Blah, blah, blah.

    Kiffin to be fired today, Kiffin to be fired tomorrow, Kiffin to fired before camp, Kiffin to be fired on the sidelines during week 1, Al puts hit out on Kiffin, Kiffin leaving Raiders to become a dentist, blah, blah, blah. What an easy ass job!

  1751. saintkaufman Says:

    Hey 408,
    Is that because they’re lazy or just forgot to do it?? :D

  1752. McCain's Best Fundraiser Says:

    John, if the Raiders fire Kiffin, they’ll be in the same shape our campaign is in. We can’t let that happen, or what will we watch on TV after the election? John, help us…John? JOHN!!!

  1753. MR Says:

    Yeh, St. Kaufman. It’s not like Al Davis to fire coaches after two seasons, so Florio was way out of line for suggesting that Kiffin is on the hot seat.

  1754. KoolKell Says:

    Frankly Speaking
    • In an interview with the St. Petersburg Times, Warren Sapp gave a vivid description of his time with the Raiders: “As dark as a black hole,” he said. “Stuff went on in that organization that shouldn’t go on in sports. I don’t think there’s one person who knows who or what is making the call. Let’s just say the Oakland experience is unique. The phone rings quite a bit on that sideline. Insubordination is grounds for termination in any company.” Having worked in that “black hole” for eight years, I know exactly what Warren is talking about. And those calls to the sideline are from one man and one man only. At times I have been the reluctant messenger on a few of them myself. They are never pleasant.

  1755. 909raiderlifer Says:

    For you ipod folks out there, who could use a good laugh, on a subject that has been on here quite often lately.(how a certain part of the human anatomy might taste.)
    Check this one out, from comedian Ron White’s cd “Drunk in Public”. Track 12 “Osama Bin Laden”

    WARNING: Border line X-Rated material, and very explicit.

    Happy Hunting.

  1756. McCain's Best Fundraiser Says:

    As I’ve said before, I don’t care about any of your opinions, and you don’t care about mine. Why am I here? Because this site has become about nothing, like the Jerry Seinfeld show. Like our presidential campaign. I like nothing. It feels cozy, like a Teddy bear. Here’s to oblivion!!!

  1757. 408RAIDER Says:

    saint..

    LOL im just sayin tho… I smoke go & to work every day pluss both of my children are on the honer roll ( even if their dad cant spell) pluss I have the time to get my blog on.. 8) …… and I never pay 4 it and its brings me $$$$$$$$ not benzo $$ like some people in here claim 2 have but Im doin ok…..

  1758. MR Says:

    McCain’s campaign at this point entirely relies on racism. His only prayer is that in November there’ll be more white people afraid of a black president than white people who would be willing to vote for Obama. Judging by the polls, it’s not happening. McCain could also pull ahead by denouncing Bush. That would put him neck in neck with Obama. But, obviously, he’s nothing more than a tool for the Republican party. I think he’s their throwaway candidate. They were seeing if Guiliani would fare well against either Obama or H. Clinton but the Florida polls didn’t look good, so Rudy made up some stupid excuse about his health to save face. He’ll be back, running against Obama in ‘12.

  1759. MR Says:

    In fact, you can stick a fork in Rudy. Rudy ran on that 9/11 this, 9/11 that platform in the Repub primaries and it got him nowhere. ‘12 will be over a decade removed from the attacks. If his invoking 9/11 into every single issue didn’t work in ‘08, it’s not going to work in ‘12.

  1760. vegas raider Says:

    I think McCain’s campaign is all about experience, or Obama’s lack there of, not racism. Isn’t bringing up racism, when nobody else is, reverse racism?

  1761. saintkaufman Says:

    Just keep takin care of those kids 408! After 20+ years of enjoying it I came up to the great NW, got a hold of some KGB and discovered that my brain could no longer send signals to places like my mouth so I figured it was time to let it go. But the jones comes at least a couple of times a year. :(

  1762. McCain's Best Fundraiser Says:

    Darn it MR, don’t give out our secrets. We’re supposed to pretend that John will be a great statesman! We know he was an all-pro POW, but that such experience does not teach strategy and that he is not even a journeyman Senator. But these are closely guarded secrets…

  1763. 408RAIDER Says:

    is reverss racism like a reverse smiley (=

    we need a new thread…. this is getting lame

  1764. 408RAIDER Says:

    will do saint….

    my daughter is only 6 and she draws RAIDER shields on everything she makes 4 me… my son is into Kung Fu but still rocks his RAIDER gear altho he wont sit and watch a whole game with me like the baby Im keepin my fingers crossed tho…..

  1765. Oakglenn Says:

    All this talk about racism. What’s the problem MR? Whitey keeping you down?

  1766. McCain's Best Fundraiser Says:

    No new thread. And we’re not racist, just because we voted against Martin Luther King day. He didn’t do anything useful, just like John, and no one has proposed a John McCain day!!!

  1767. saintkaufman Says:

    Ha. That’s awesome 408. Can’t get my son to watch a whole game either. Maybe if the games were rebroadcast in cartoon we might have a chance?

  1768. saintkaufman Says:

    If we’re the human race, doesn’t there need to be a whole different race of something for us to hate on to become racist??

    Personally, I hate moles. I hate the whole frickin mole race!! That’s right, I said it. Those nasty diggin nazi’s!!!

  1769. Immodest in Modesto Says:

    This thread has become a disaster. Will someone please tell me again why I shouldn’t be terrified for JMarc with this O-line. And please don’t give me this mystical “In Cable we trust ” stuff. Tell me who we have to play LT, and why I should not expect a QB on injured reserve after the first game…

  1770. saintkaufman Says:

    For starters because our first game is against the Broncos.

  1771. Immodest in Modesto Says:

    Which means…

  1772. saintkaufman Says:

    Come on Modesto, you know it’s going to be a patchwork project all year. A lot of roll outs to the right, alot of TE and FB help, alot of running plays and screens to the left, etc. Fortunately our schedule is somewhat soft when it comes to DE’s.

  1773. KoolKell Says:

    JMarc is Big, Mobile, Has Quick Release, and Lane Kiffin will dink and dunk us to death, that’s why.

  1774. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I have a dream this afternoon,
    That the brotherhood of man,
    Will become a reality
    In this day, with this faith,
    I will go out and,
    Carve the tunnel of hope,
    Through the mountain of despair
    With this faith,
    I will go out with you and,
    Transform dark yesterdays
    Into bright tomorrows
    With this faith,
    We will be able to achieve
    This new day
    When all of God’s children,
    Black men and white men,
    J3ws and gentiles,
    Protestants and Catholics
    Will be able to join hands
    And sing with the negroes,
    In the spiritual of old
    Free at last, free at last,
    Thank God almighty,
    We’re free at last.
    ___________________________________________________

    in Extremes, ‘Peacemaker Die’ it sounds GREAT!

  1775. Immodest in Modesto Says:

    Really? That soft? Someone on our line is going to have to learn to stand their ground, or all the trickery in the world is going to fool no one.

  1776. La Milicia Negra Says:

    “Through the mountain of despair”

    that would be the last 6 years!

  1777. KoolKell Says:

    The Negative

    In Week 7 last season, the Chiefs were beating Oakland 6-0 in the second quarter. The Raiders had just one first down prior to the drive. Faced with a third-and-two from the Kansas City 18, Oakland rookie head coach Lane Kiffin called for a run resulting in a 1-yard gain. Instead of kicking the field goal, the Raiders went for it on fourth down and failed to convert. The Raiders ended up losing 12-10. Many naysayers pointed to the fourth-down call as the mistake, but in reality, the third down call was the real miscue. Had the game been managed correctly, Kiffin would have known a field goal was not an option before making his third-down call. With that knowledge, the play book is wide open on third down and the potential is there for a big play.

  1778. Immodest in Modesto Says:

    LMN: Thanks for that . I’m going to copy and keep that.

  1779. saintkaufman Says:

    I’m not so sure KK. One of the best running teams in the NFL can’t get 2 yards on the ground in 2 plays?? He had to be playing the odds on that one. We came back and did the same thing to KC later in the year.

  1780. 408RAIDER Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 9:43 am
    LMN, to the rest of the world the Bay Area and LA are the same thing: plastic fantastic.

    thats a joke right… 2 diffrent worlds compleetly… I know I have family in both but I rep the 408…

  1781. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Through the mountain of despair

    Transform dark yesterdays
    _______________________________________________________

    I know about that. God I hope Kiffin is the one, let it be!

    btw I like the way he says, “Thank God almighty”

    “Free at last, free at last,
    Thank God almighty,
    We’re free at last.”

  1782. saintkaufman Says:

    …..of course that 4th and 1 was given to Lamont who was averaging just below 1ypc at that point!! OK, rookie mistake Kif!

  1783. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408…

    LA and Bay area is the same vs Denmark and Holland/Netherlands are the same…

    you will need to read the whole conversation to get the point =)

    But don’t =)

  1784. La Milicia Negra Says:

    inmodesto..

    =)you’re Welcome… Notice Ive change it to J3w… you might change it back

  1785. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN im still trying to catch up been gone all day my bad… bo just touched a nerve .. you probly dont understand the NOR CAL ~ SO CAL thing but its there and its real…

  1786. La Milicia Negra Says:

    LMN shoves Extreme, III Sides To Every Story’ on…..

  1787. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408…

    the point is I exactly know that there is a thing between NORcal and SOcal…

    thats was my point =)

  1788. Immodest in Modesto Says:

    I’m not hearing alot of support for Harris. Before the draft, I plead for Clady. We had our big star in JMarc, and potential stars at RB. A strong line has always been a Raider hallmark, and I.m getting little feeling from the NATION that they really believe in this line. That worries me. I’m SICK AND TIRED of our seasons ending in October, which is why I called for a draft-down and a legitimate LT. I’ll support whoever we drafted, that’s not the point. Anyone care to enlighten me?

  1789. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN

    OK then I stand corrected… 4 the most part I dont care where people are from as long as they respect me & my loved 1s….

  1790. KoolKell Says:

    Cable made nice progress with the line last year. But it’s not the typical power Raider O-line. Because O=line play is so choreographed, maybe he feels comfortable with this group and the work they’ve done together.

    But Harris’s sacks allowed in not impressive during his career so far.

  1791. 4evaRaider Says:

    If youre backs cant get you 1 stinkin yard,you dont deserve 2 win.True the wrong call was made on 3rd down.Lets say Kiff calls a pass play on 3rd down,converts,well than we got 4 more downs or score.In that situation as coach I could say I went 4 it,it didnt work out.Field goal unit get out there,take 3pts.You cant we would have won 13-12 but it would have taken the goose-egg off the board and maybe changed momentum,and we all know about MO!!!

  1792. 408RAIDER Says:

    4eva

    hope your not working 2 hard bro… Ima get some fosters in a can 2 go with my green bud 2nite as a tribute 2 you …. LOL.. (= RAIDER on NATION…

  1793. Oakglenn Says:

    Sure Immodest. I’ll try. Basically, and everyone is the organization is in agreement on this, the org felt the defense played fairly well. Not great, but fairly well. What the thinking is if we can ball control more, keep the defense off the field and REALLY establish a running game, even tho we had a good one last year, that would take huge pressure off both the defense and the passing game this year. Hence picking McFadden.
    The issue with Harris is while his pass blocking is certainly circumspect, no one can deny his run blocking. In other words we are REALLY gonna run it at opponents this year. With defenses looking to stop the run, that will help both Jam and Kwame. Oh and did I mention we have an absolute 245 lb stud in Mike Bush just waiting to smash someone’s face in???
    Now, if the Raiders get behind 30-3 in the first half of a game, we’re gonna be in trouble, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen too often.

  1794. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408…

    no worries…

    It was a point to illustrate that Denmark and Holland isn’t the same thing… I dont under stand Dutch…the language of Holland/Netherlands..

    I speak Danish, and are from Denmark =)

  1795. 408RAIDER Says:

    OG Hell yeah BUSH is a beast Im glad Im not the only 1 who thinks so …. I cant wait 4 training camp to see what we got dont be suprised if Bush is our #1 back come september….

  1796. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN

    were always good brethrean…. :P

  1797. Oakglenn Says:

    Actually 408, Capt Kirk (Morrison) said this guy Bush was so good in Mini’s no one is supposed to talk about him. The Raiders want no one to see this guy coming. So, this guy Mike Bush you’re talking about……never heard of him.

  1798. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 1793 408RAIDER WOW BRO I AM HONERED!!!!!! IF you never drank a FOSTERS the first drink might be a little diffrent than any beer you ever tasted.BUT after that one its a wonderfull beer.GREAT BUZZ along with youre sticky skunk,you will find yourself doing silly things.Party ON BRO,I doing same,tho your skunk Im sure is better than mine

  1799. Dakota Says:

    We got a bod pod!

    http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2008/6/prweb1058974.htm

  1800. Dakota Says:

    http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10882613

    Nice line about Miller.

  1801. KoolKell Says:

    Russell looks good in the Charger game. 23-31 224 yds 1TD.

  1802. Dakota Says:

    I hope Russell looks good in the bod pod.

  1803. La Milicia Negra Says:

    1807… first recorded terrorist attack…

  1804. La Milicia Negra Says:

    now i’m too fast… just plain bad, LMN!!

  1805. Dakota Says:

    I have so many comments “awaiting moderation” I am not sure what the true comment number is!

  1806. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ahh Dakota, thats why =)

    well here it goes…

  1807. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 1804 LMN Who ,what and where

  1808. Immodest in Modesto Says:

    LMN: Don’t worry, some will never understand the difference between Danmark and any other country. To the devil with them. I understand…

  1809. La Milicia Negra Says:

    England.. against Copenhagen… one day that marked our downfall…

  1810. Immodest in Modesto Says:

    Oakglenn: I see one hole in your theory. If, after a couple of games, teams see that all we have is the run, why won’t they crowd the box like usual and our season ends in October because we are one-dimensional and therefore easy to defend against?

  1811. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMN are we still talkin about some geographically challanged american??? lol

  1812. KoolKell Says:

    My goal this year is for the season to go past Halloween.

    Yeah, you really have to be able to do everything well to be a contender. All facets of the game are in symbiosis with each other.

  1813. KoolKell Says:

    That’s why I worry about Lane Kiffin, if it’s his nature or lack of experience. You cannot have a good offensive football team without the ability or will to have Quarterbacks throw to Wide Recievers

    Running the ball and dinking to Running Backs will Not get it done.

  1814. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4eva…

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    post 1804 LMN Who ,what and where

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    England.. against Copenhagen… one day that marked our downfall…

  1815. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hey 408RAIDER,how you doing???

  1816. 4evaRaider Says:

    good nite all,untill tommorrow PEACE-NATION

  1817. Florida Pete Says:

    Immodest in Modesto Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
    Oakglenn: I see one hole in your theory. If, after a couple of games, teams see that all we have is the run, why won’t they crowd the box like usual and our season ends in October because we are one-dimensional and therefore easy to defend against?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    because…

    Russell and Miller showed some real rapport in the last game of last season…

    8 catches…

    it’ll be up to Russell to make the call and feed Miller…

    i smell play action !!!

    that’s raiderin’ baby…

    it’s the only way !!!

  1818. Dakota Says:

    Sprinkler is fixed…life is gooood.

  1819. Blackholepriest Says:

    Koolkell and others concerned about our ability to throw deep. It seems quite evident that the Raiders have made a concerted effort to resolve that. This offseason I think we added some outside speed in FA and in the draft. Maybe I’m missing something here but worrying about eight in the box seems a little unnecessary.

    Why did we get Todd Watkins? Walker, Carter, Shields and others, just to allow some team to stack eight in the box and we’re stumped and confused as to what to do?……come on.

    Having said that. I must admit that I hadn’t read many posts at all. So I’m sure someone else has made these obvious points.

  1820. 408RAIDER Says:

    dude glad to hear u got ur sprinkler fixed… time to blow a j LOL… and I aINT NO tree hugger pilgrim……

  1821. Blackholepriest Says:

    That link to breakout players, should show JaMarcus Russell somewhere in the top ten IMO. I can’t say when but I eel strongly that the offseason preparation. With the cameo appearances last season will pay dividends some point this season for Russell. My guess would be somewhere in the second half of the season. He will demonstrate the type talent and what sort of QB he’s capable of being. And start to perform at a high level more consistently.

    The running game will carry us early and I think you’ll see us round into a more balanced attack as the season wears on. This has the potential to be at some point one of the more difficult attacks to contain in the NFL as Russell starts to settle in.

    When I read comments that question our ability to attack opponents deep or stretch the field. I just don’t think those questioning understand Russell’s talent or what it takes to get that done.

    No one and I mean NO ONE will stack 8 or 9 in the box against with any real success. If they do it, it will be at they’re own expense.

    If there is one thing the Raiders will do this year it will be to get the ball down field effectively and successfully.

  1822. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    props to lmn and mr for reading my slams on (ob and liberals) and neither made it a race. They just may have thought differently of my thoughts but never that i was slamming a race.

    ct raider

  1823. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    i’m tired of losing posts… i’m not offensive or using vulger!

  1824. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    Copenhagen: JIM if the weak die out based on natural selection, how does that explain the existence of hoards of trailer parks filled with uneducated, ignorant, beer guzling white

    Copenhagen: i mentioned the weak should die out. It obviously doesn’t happen as represented by your post. However, I’m cofused as to why you didn’t think i was referring to white people as well. Are you a racist? Defensive?

  1825. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    Copenhagen: Appearantly, you didn’t comprehend what i wrote. Why would you think i would exclude white people? WHy does KK think i’m a republican when i dared to question the almighty (BO)? hmmmmm sounds like some racist have never met an open mind. Hang out w/better people. Get away from your family (if that’s the problem). Good luck my friends.

  1826. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    jhhhaha i copied (per lmn) and cut it into two pieces and it was posted.. why not the first time:???

    CT RAIDER

  1827. KoolKell Says:

    I don’t question Jmarc’s ability to stretch the field. I have doubts about Lane Kiffin’s playbook.

  1828. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    kk: i’m the opposite. I thought we should have picked up calvin johnson (who’s a beast) w/the 1st pick and chose the stanford dude who now starts for buffalo… trent…. or something.

    Then we wouldn’t have p/u walker (i was against) and we’d have a west coast qb and a stud receiver to go w/our running game. I’m sure kiffin would want the same thing but al is al and is impressed by an 80 yard arm even though the WCO is quick hits with receivers busting it. Now that we don’t have any receivers… lets jr and throw a bomb…like brady did all year except w/o any receivers or a pass blocking line.

    ct raider

    what’s the buffalo qb name? he started half the games last year….didn’t hold out for an extra 4mil over what .. 6 years.. so he missed a whole year.

  1829. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    trent edwards!!!! and CJ/curry/miller and that running game… enough money left over to p/u Boldin… and sign namdi… wooo hooo.

  1830. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    but i will always root for russell as long as he’s a raider! just don’t think the pick made sense. i pray i’m wrong.

  1831. KoolKell Says:

    I don’t know if Lane Kiffin and JaMarcus Russell is a good fit

  1832. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    kk: i agree. lk is a wco and jr will either have to show he’s a wco qb or they’ll have to go back to ANOTHER offense. AD needs to draft to coaches or pick coaches to the draft. he mixes.

    ct raider

  1833. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    kiffin threw deep a lot at usc. i think his thought was he had margin of error by throwing bombs to big receivers. we have picked up all big receivers so that should help out a young qb (margin of error). and of course…. THE RUNNING GAME!!!

    i’m counting on a good season! 9-14 at kc…here i come!

    CT RAIDER

  1834. Blackholepriest Says:

    I’m not sure I understand why you think his playbook is a problem? His playcalling last year was based primarily on his wanting to cut down on sacks, t/o’s and negative plays. He had to biuld confidence in this teams ability to execute. We really didn’t attack anyone by design. Which is your reason for concern I suppose. But this is a very different team from the one we fielded last year.

    I gaurantee you we will set up big plays with the short stuff. He’s not going to just throw caution to the wind and force things. But we will make defenses cover the entire field this year.

    Trust me his playbook as well as playcalling is no different than anyone else’s. It’s how he will use it. But we will attack deep without question.

    BTW you’ll see, Russell and Kiffin may have their differences but it’s a great fit. He will develope this kid properly.

  1835. Blackholepriest Says:

    Why does everyone think we run a WCO? The offense is just offense and has very little if anything to do with the WCO.

    Why does everything have to be the WCO if it has short and intermediate pass plays?

    I’m not sure what offense we run but it aint the WCO. that’s for sure.

  1836. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    bhp: i’m on board and i’m remaining positive! i invited a gb fan over last year for the game. I took sooo much ridicule when they showed jr all bundled up on the sideline. i wish they didn’t activate him that game and left him in cal. it was sooo embarrassing!

    CT RAIDER

  1837. KoolKell Says:

    Kiffins playcalling reminded me of Grudens last year. I understand the QB situation was weak. But if you want to make an omlette, you have to break eggs.

    The QB’s primary function is to get the ball to Wide Recievers.

  1838. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    kk: correct.. it’s to manage the game. like malcom x said, “by any means necessary” if that means an extra huh huh to get a man off sides.. if it’s a qb run on 3-3, in a tight game or if it’s to dump the ball. his job is to not have negative plays and keep pressure on the d. if we can’t stop the run then his job will be to chew up time as well.. and score 6s not 3s.

  1839. Blackholepriest Says:

    Yeah KK, it did look like boring but you had to know why. He had no confidence in ur ability to get the ball to WR’s consistently. Especially deep, I doubt that will be the case this year.

  1840. Blackholepriest Says:

    But Kiffin doesn’t want t/o’s either so they will be very smart in the approach to the verticle game you and I love to see.

    Defensive coord’s must fear our ability to put points up quickly, forcing them to play us honest.

  1841. KoolKell Says:

    I hear ya’ll, but coaches are stubborn, we’ll see, because of the QB situation last year, I give him the benefit of the doubt. But Chuckey even with a All-Pro QB ran only 5 yd crossing routes. In order to strectch the field and have a credible offense you have to get the ball to your wide recievers.

    Later guys.

  1842. Blackholepriest Says:

    If you remember that pass to Porter vs SD in the endzone by Russell was a direct response to the chargers playing the run and stacking the box, leaving Cromartie in man.

    The results Touchdown Raiders!!!

  1843. Oakglenn Says:

    Immodest in Modesto Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    Oakglenn: I see one hole in your theory.

    IIM, clearly as Blackhole Priest and others have pointed out, you want to run a “balanced” attack. In other words, knowing the Raiders want to smash the rock, lst and ten, lst play, what if Jam rolls right, and throws a ten yard completion to Miller. You’re the defensive coordinator. Now what do you do?? Stack the box?? If you do, as BHP and Florida Pete have said, there’s gonna be some passing. If you back off, Dmac is toting the rock. In the immortal words of former NFL QB Ron Jaworksi, you wanna die fast, or you wanna die slow??

    On a different subject, Knowing MR is white, if anyone took exception or offense to me saying what’s wrong MR, whitey keeping you down, please, accept my heartfelt apologies. Just having some fun.

  1844. K-Rock Says:

    Heard on NFL Total Access…

    Gave props to Fields for being first in the weightroom at the Rookie Symposium this morning. Said he came in a little after 5 AM.

    Also said Mike Williams showed up for Titans camp after losing 30 lbs! Only problem is he still weighed 240lbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That’s right folks. That means when Williams played for the Raiders last season, he weighed close to 270!

    This is a freakin WR we are talking about.

    Rich Eison said he should have played on our offensive line. LOL!

    What a turd!!!!

  1845. Mistabrown Says:

    It was Shields that showed up first and yeah thats a good sign of his work ethic..

    Who else thinks Clinton Portis is a moron?

  1846. Oak Ridge Boy Reject Rob Ryan Says:

    1847 posts about Sam Keller?

  1847. Mistabrown Says:

    Who ?

  1848. MR Says:

    All I ever discussed was Keller. I never strayed off topic. Oakglenn’s another story.

  1849. MR Says:

    Who is Keller, anyway?

  1850. MR Says:

    Yeh, Kell, we wouldn’t want Kiffin to call plays like Gruden. I mean, what a horrible time that was when Gruden was here. All that winning…yuk. Let’s hope Kiff just forces the ball down field and we wind up losing games by a touchdown.

  1851. MR Says:

    Oakglenn, I am white, and whitey is keeping me down. You nailed it.

  1852. MR Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 30th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    “I have so many comments ‘awaiting moderation’”

    ………

    Thank God. Keep up the good work, mods!

  1853. MR Says:

    Vegas Raider, the phrase “reverse racism” is racist because only white people can claim it. So run along, racist. And, yes, McCain’s only prayer is that more white people are afraid of a black president than they are inspired by Obama. According to the polls, no luck. Race relations are starting to improve, and Obama’s playing a major part in that. That’s good for America, but, of course, bad for the McCain campaign. And make no mistake, they’ll do whatever they can to change it. Won’t work, though. McCain’s just a bad candidate. He can’t sell it. Too funny looking. Hey, that shouldn’t matter, but this is America and in this country, how you look on the tv screen is who you are. And in that regard, McCain can’t hold a candle to Obama.

  1854. Florida Pete Says:

    i am white too…

    and i have been keeping me down…

    back to bed…

  1855. CopenhagenFan Says:

    Jim (ct raider)….no I think you misunderstood me. My point was that the majority of the United States population is a bunch of white rednecks, so letting the weak die would like erradicate the majority of the population. When I read your post, I didn’t even think of minorities.

  1856. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    Copenhagenfan: 70% of america is white but not rednecks. how many people have you met?

  1857. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    no such thing as “reverse racism”. It either is or isn’t

  1858. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning NATION!!!

  1859. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Its fun to see MR whine about being black.

  1860. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Obama makes MR horny. Break out your Adams family coloring books and find Lurch, use a brown crayon to fill in the lines and presto, you have Obama.

  1861. 4evaRaider Says:

    nice little write-up by Os Davis on the future look of the Raiders on Raidernews.com

  1862. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Hey Nation

  1863. La Milicia Negra Says:

    civil war time, and when DK lost 1/3 of its territory…

  1864. 4evaRaider Says:

    class,claaaaass,shut-up.Morning LMN

  1865. Johnny Rebel Says:

    That guy in Texas cleared of shooting those two thiefs as they ran away through his neighbors yard.

  1866. La Milicia Negra Says:

    we just had the Draw for the first competitor in the UEFA cup, we going to meet a team we should be able to win against.. so the new season is just around the corner =)

  1867. 4evaRaider Says:

    he shot them both in the back,he is white,they were black.The 2 had burglarised his neighbors house.His neighbor was on vaction.He saw them exiting said house with bags of stolen goods.Mr.Horn told them 2stop.They came towards him,he told them to stop,he then clicked his shotgun told them 2 not run away,they did,he shot them both in back.There were 3 shots fired.Since they came towards him he said he feared 4 his life.When they heard him pump shotgun thats when they turned and ran.In Texas you can by law defend your property or in this case your neighbors as well.Also a view held by many:A corps cant testify against you

  1868. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Race has nothing to do with what the court decided, the neighbors had asked him to watch over their property, the law is very clear.

  1869. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Rumor is starting to circulate Marshall may be suspended before the first game, looks like Davis and Kiffin got the lesser of two evils from Denver.

  1870. 4evaRaider Says:

    Johnny Rebel,you are correct,the law is very clear in Texas.I just wanted ALL the facts out on this one,b4 this site blew-up.Also in Texas,if you catch your spouse in the act with some one else,you can kill them then and there,plead temporary insanity and the case will be dismissed.One moe thing it is looking like Brandon Marshall could be suspeneded for an undetrined amount of time,like 9-08-o8!!!

  1871. 4evaRaider Says:

    Its called a crime of passion

  1872. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Everyone knows who is going to try and play the race card because of the way the court ruled when he posts again, its unavoidable.

  1873. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Georgia just passed a new law this morning expanding gun rights.

  1874. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Didn’t Tyler Brayton get suspended for a “crime of passion” two years ago?

  1875. 4evaRaider Says:

    Thats good 4 the good citizens of Georgia.Their will be a lot of new gun laws now because of the recent Supreme Court ruling

  1876. Johnny Rebel Says:

    I think so, wasn’t he the one that got into it with that TE from Seattle?

  1877. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Yeah now the group is going after the airports there.

  1878. 4evaRaider Says:

    Jeremy Stevens???Hewas just signed 2 a contract extension by the Tampa Bay Suckenqueers

  1879. Dakota Says:

    http://www.allfordmustangs.com/photopost/data/3243/right_to_bear_arms.jpg

  1880. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dakota,are you taking orders 4 those??? I dont have one ,yet

  1881. La Milicia Negra Says:

    “Rumor is starting to circulate Marshall may be suspended before the first game, looks like Davis and Kiffin got the lesser of two evils from Denver.”

    well Javon might up sitting in the seats as well…

  1882. jeRaider Says:

    a week and no new news on the raiders.

    i guess the new guy fell a sleep.

    Come back JERRY, we need you.

  1883. Mistabrown Says:

    If Jerry was here Im sure there would be a thread on Sapps comments.

    FYI…Rod Brooks who was on the Raider sidelines for a few years said yesterday on KNBR that he never saw the things Sapp alleged.

  1884. Mistabrown Says:

    Here’s what Sapp said:

    “As dark as a black hole. Stuff went on in that organization that shouldn’t go on in sports. I don’t think there’s one person who knows who or what is making the call. Let’s just say the Oakland experience is unique. The phone rings quite a bit on that sideline. Insubordination is grounds for termination in any company.”

    You can guess who’s making those calls. If you’re clueless, here’s former Raider employee Mike Lombardi writing for SI.com:

    “Having worked in that “black hole” for eight years, I know exactly what Warren is talking about. And those calls to the sideline are from one man and one man only. At times I have been the reluctant messenger on a few of them myself. They are never pleasant.”

  1885. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Walker will be fine, I read they operated on his jaw and the orbital bone damage was just a fracture instead of crushed like what Romo did to Williams.

  1886. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Sapp is bitter because he sucks as a player now and is trying take out his frustration. He’s got to find something to talk about to get a job in the media. If Al were on the phone all the time why has he never been photographed talking on a phone from his booth over the last 4 decades? Because it doesn’t happen.

  1887. LosT Says:

    You can call Sapp overated, lazy, etc.etc…but he tells it like it is…

  1888. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Then why are there players that say they have never seen what Sapp is talking about? Was he looking for phone calls while out on the feild playing defense is a better question to ask.

  1889. LosT Says:

    No players have stated this…Rod Brooks is a sideline reporter…

    Sapp isn’t the first player to criticize the organization…

    Breshnahan did it. Moss did it. Rhodes did it. Washington did it. Sweighert did it. Sapp did it.

    As Kiffin stated this year – “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”

  1890. LosT Says:

    And Lombardi just mentioned it…

  1891. jeRaider Says:

    I THINK THAT IT IS TRUE.. AS MUCH AS SOME OF YOU B!TCH ABOUT BIG AL AND THAT YOU WISH HE WERE TO DIE SO THAT THIS ORGANIZATION COULD BE RUN DIFFERENT AND NOT JUST BY AL AND ALL HIS LIVER SPOTS. YOU ALL HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT IF STUFF IS NOT GOING RIGHT DURING THE GAME THAT AL IS MAKING A CALL. AL RUNS EVERYTHING WE ALL KNOW THAT. SAPP IS JUST SPEAKING OUT, AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

  1892. La Milicia Negra Says:

    WHAT ARE YOU SAYING; I CANT HEAR YOUUUUU!!!!!!111

  1893. Johnny Rebel Says:

    I can see Al calling Lombardi because he has nothing to do with gameday activities and asking him why he hand picked all the bums playing for Davis’s Raiders over the last 5 years, but as you can clearly see Lombardi is gone now and so are the players he supported. Thats why Davis chose Kiffin to coach was to rebuild the roster Lombardi built and cut out the middle man. I think Kiffin is doing a good job too. Denver has their hands full in week one even if Russell gets off to a shakey start. I think it will be a close game with the Raiders pulling away and winning with a strong running game in the fourth quarter. Kiffin should have beaten Shanny the first time around and but won his next opportunity.

  1894. Eric Farrell Says:

    Sapp is the kind of dude whose prone to exaggerate a little while speaking, however, this team needs to quit screwing around. Let the freaking coaches coach, let the players play, enough of enough is enough…time to get back to what’s most important, which is winning games

  1895. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Well you never see Kiffin talking on a phone during a game to Davis do you? They got camera’s everywhere during a game and always have one on Davis and the coaches yet the only ones talking are the coaches. Sapp is just stirring up b.s. to promote himself.

  1896. 4evaRaider Says:

    Johnny Rebel;on this one I disagree with you.I say when the donkeys come 2 town,we slaughter them.5 YEARS of bullshiot will be taken out on them and Shiotarat.It will be so totally brutal that there wont be anything left 4 the glue factory!!!Then its off 2 kc 2 rape and pillage the squaws,ufck the squaws!!!Then its open season on buffylows,then backhome 2 chockers,ufck the chockers.Then a well deserved break.GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1897. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I’m not so sure we gonna steamroll anybody…

    especially not the donkys or the Jills…I think we gonna start okay, and as a slow big snowball we gonna get momentum and self esteem…

    The 2 Playoff sleepers in my book are Bills and Texans, we gonna meet both!

  1898. Raider0525 Says:

    Once again I’m heading to Oakland from Ohio with my son. I’m looking to buy 2 tickets to the San Diego game. Let me know if anyone know of some decent tickets out there. Thanks

  1899. FIRE KIFFIN Says:

    Bring on the Muuuuuuuuuchh.

    Just Win Baby.

  1900. 4evaRaider Says:

    donkeys are in disarray,they wont have #1 reciever.squaws just plain suck,jills will b tough imo.chockers are on down side but will still be formidable.Is it just me or do others feel there is something sooo big so awesome that we are about 2 see? True we have not addressed all our needs but Ive allways said a great running attack oppertunistic defence will get you far.I believe we have both and then some

  1901. 4evaRaider Says:

    as dick enberg would say:OH MY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1902. FIRE KIFFIN Says:

    Steve Mariucci has not ruled out returning to the head coaching ranks again some day.

    But much to the chagrin of Green Bay Packers fans or Yoopers hoping to see the Iron Mountain native nicknamed “Mooch” return home, his return would likely be in northern California.

    “The right situation may never present itself again,” Mariucci said, “because we’ve decided as a family not to move anymore. We are back in northern California in our home and we settled back in. I’ve moved my wife 18 times, and I don’t want to move again, nor does she. Our home base is going to be in the Bay Area. It’s that simple.

    “For me to coach again, it either has to be on the West Coast or I would have to commute.”

  1903. La Milicia Negra Says:

    4eva…

    well we haven’t got our #1 receiver either, and its a new crew… I still see donkeys as better set for teh first game, where as I think we will dominate the late return game.. because at that time our are gelled..

  1904. MR Says:

    Sam Keller? Alright!

  1905. MR Says:

    # Jim (ct raider) Says:
    July 1st, 2008 at 3:31 am

    “no such thing as “reverse racism”. It either is or isn’t”

    ……….

    Thank you.

  1906. MR Says:

    Rebel, Obama doesn’t make me horny. Don’t swing that way. But I haven’t talked to one woman who doesn’t find Obama attractive, liberal or conservative, so you obviously have no clue when you’re suggesting he’s funny looking, or whatever.

  1907. MR Says:

    Talk about ghoulish looking…John McCain looks like every deformed t.v. character in history rolled into one. Shilling for that Republican party puts some years on you, that’s for sure… He was actually a young, sharp looking guy when he got back from ‘Nam. So that wasn’t it.

  1908. MR Says:

    Johnny Rebel, you ducked my question yesterday, buddy. What one, single, individual person is more responsible than Al Davis for our 61 losses in the past 5 years?

  1909. MR Says:

    Mike Lombardi of SI, today:

    ‘• In an interview with the St. Petersburg Times, Warren Sapp gave a vivid description of his time with the Raiders: “As dark as a black hole,” he said. “Stuff went on in that organization that shouldn’t go on in sports. I don’t think there’s one person who knows who or what is making the call. Let’s just say the Oakland experience is unique. The phone rings quite a bit on that sideline. Insubordination is grounds for termination in any company.” Having worked in that “black hole” for eight years, I know exactly what Warren is talking about. And those calls to the sideline are from one man and one man only. At times I have been the reluctant messenger on a few of them myself. They are never pleasant.’

    SI.com/nfl

  1910. MR Says:

    So, now we’ve got Sapp and Lombardi telling the same exact…”lie”. Liars, I tell ya… :)

  1911. vegas raider Says:

    Mr: While you may be right that “McCain’s only prayer is that more white people are afraid of a black president than they are inspired by Obama” I am holding out hope that the American voting population is a little more credible than that. I am no fan of McCain, the whole two party system is a joke IMO, but just because I don’t like Obama doesn’t make me a racist. Just like if you don’t support the war doesn’t mean you hate the troops

  1912. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMN,donkeys dont have any proven RBs.When we take a 10-14 point lead Cutlers gonna chock and when he does Nnamdi gonna be there and so is Hall.I can see at least 1 TD by our corners.I now I sound optimistic but I cant help it.Ifeel like were gonna suprise alot of teams and people

  1913. MR Says:

    You know what’s funny?

    Why won’t the Davis loyals just admit that he meddles? I mean, on one hand, they brag about his supposed knowledge of the game. In that regard, considering that were actually true, I mean, what would be wrong with him meddling? But when a story breaks of him meddling, or when two former employees give the exact same account of his meddling, as Sapp and Lombardi just have, these guys all of a sudden go on the defensive and suggest that Al Davis would never do such a thing. I mean, let’s play devil’s advocate here, why not? He’s all knowing, isn’t he? Surely Al Davis knows more about the game then two nit wits like Mike Lombardi or Lane Kiffin, or even Jon Gruden, right? These guys are bunch of kids who could kiss Al’s pinky ring, right? So therefore, what would be wrong with him meddling? Yet, you guys will never fess to him doing it when the accusation of his meddling arises. I don’t get that. Make up your minds. Is Al Davis the most knowledgeable owner in the game, or is he just like the other suits, minding his own business and letting others run his team?

    Let’s take a stand here once and for all, Davis loyals.

  1914. MR Says:

    Vegas Raider, I dunno. The term “reverse racist”, which you used yesterday, is usually thrown around by these white people with bottled up racist views. I mean, only a white person can claim “reverse racism”. So the phrase in and of itself is racist. Why does racism have to have some special name when done against whites? You’ll never admit to it, but I think at least part of the reason you wouldn’t vote for Obama is because you have a problem with black people. And, McCain certainly needs you guys. But I don’t think there’s enough of you. At least that’s what the polls are indicating.

  1915. Oakglenn Says:

    Al Davis “meddles” with the Raiders??? And this is news???????????? Hey everyone: it’s HIS Effing Team!!!!! He can drive it off a freaking cliff if he wants!!! This is America. It’s a free freaking country. If You don’t like the Raiders, or If You don’t like Davis, or if you don’t like the colours silver and black, you can go follow the Broncos or the Whiners or any other team or go take a walk in the park. Hell go follow the New York Yankees. Lord knows Steinbrenner never “meddles”.

  1916. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Mike Lombardi.

  1917. 4evaRaider Says:

    MR yes al davis is the most knowledgeable owner in the game.I dont think when you say meddle,hes coaching from the box.I do think week in and week out he will have things to add or offer up 2 his coaches 2 look 4 but AD lets them make the game time calls.But I never played 4 him so I dont have first hand knowledge like some in here do.Also if AD meddles he has every right 2,afterall he IS the most knowledgeable owner 2 ever be in the game

  1918. RaiderTW Says:

    Oxymorons:
    reverse racism
    moral majority
    owners meddling
    unborn children

  1919. Johnny Rebel Says:

    No good looking women ever say anything about Obama unless they are coached to.

  1920. MR Says:

    So, 4evaRaider, Sapp and Lombardi could very well be telling the truth then, right? “If” he meddles. That’s what you said. So then, why are so many Davis loyalists on the defensive right now, suggesting Al doesn’t meddle? What would be their problem if he did? That’s all I’m wondering.

  1921. MR Says:

    Rebel, I talk to women about politics all of the time and I haven’t heard one yet say that Obama isn’t attractive, women of all political affiliations and all ranges on the looks scale. Besides, it’s not like ugly women don’t know what a good looking guy looks like. I mean, you know what a good looking woman looks like, right? Same scenario.

  1922. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Seriously how much meddling can a 90 year old man do between naps?

  1923. Johnny Rebel Says:

    I know Obama’s wife is not good looking. That about sums it up.

  1924. SilverNblack666 Says:

    MR quit trying to hide your homosexual tendencies.

  1925. Johnny Rebel Says:

    McCain’s wife on the other hand is attractive and her family owns Budweiser. Go figure.

  1926. MR Says:

    Uh oh, now Rebel’s going to go off on an Oakglenn tangent and tell us he “pulls chicks”, too. Every time we accuse someone in here of being unattractive, we seem to get that in response. Let it go, Johnny Rebel. I was joking. I’m sure you’re a pimp, just like Oakglenn. I mean, doesn’t it show?

  1927. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Obama’s wife is ugly but not as ugly as Barbara Bush the Oatmeal lady.

    Now Jackie “O” was a hot First Lady

  1928. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Davis likes to show recievers how to run routes in his turbo charged wheelchair.

  1929. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Johnny Rebel yes she is attractive if you like 60 year old women!

    Better have some lube handy Johnny Rebel!

  1930. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Pull chicks? I am happily married to a knock out wife, what about you MR, going back to the gay parade next year? I noticed you did not post Sunday until after it was over.

  1931. SilverNblack666 Says:

    “knock out wife”

    Does that mean he beats her?

  1932. Johnny Rebel Says:

    She is more attractive than Obama’s wife even if she is 60.

  1933. MR Says:

    Obama’s wife is no supermodel, but she’s not bad, either. She looks a bit too angry. Honestly, I think McCain’s wife looks better, too. She’s the only good thing he’s got going for her, although she does strike me as an airhead. But that won’t change the dynamics of this election. McCain’s only prayer is good old fashion racism. And it doesn’t seem to be getting traction. And, regardless of what you think of Obama, it’s well documented that he is far more charismatic than McCain is. And, again, I haven’t met a woman yet, of any political affiliation, who doesn’t think he’s attractive. McCain, on the other hand? Haven’t meat a woman yet, of any political affiliation, who thinks he is.

  1934. Johnny Rebel Says:

    MR just can’t get any, thats why he whines about women so much in here.

  1935. SilverNblack666 Says:

    They cant all be as good looking as Bill Clinton and JFK.

    McCain looks like he was held hostage in a foreign country. Oops he was

  1936. SilverNblack666 Says:

    MR resorted to farm animals years ago he gave up on humans ever wanting to interact with him.

  1937. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Now that be funny right there:)

  1938. MR Says:

    Also, McCain ditched his first wife for his current one. His original wife was there for him all through the POW ordeal. She’s the one who met him with open arms at his return…but she had been disfigured in a car accident while he was on duty. He dumped her, and later married Cindy. This is something that will not resonate well with women voters. It hasn’t been much of an issue, because Obama is keeping his promise to keep the wives and families out of the campaign. But let McCain, or any of his sneaky political action groups that claim to not be affiliated with him, start going after Michelle or any of Barack’s immediate family, and the story of the two Mrs. McCains’ will be stamped on John McCain’s forehead until November. Count on it.

  1939. SilverNblack666 Says:

    when we are left with posting about MR’s sexual preferences and how good looking the presidential candidates are we are truly in need of some more Raider news!!!

  1940. MR Says:

    LOL. A guy posting as “Johnny Rebel” is accusing me of not “getting any”….

  1941. SilverNblack666 Says:

    “the two Mrs. McCains’ will be stamped on John McCain’s forehead”

    Like Gorbachov?

  1942. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Yeah McCain ran women so what? But they like him because he is for abortion. Obama is a flip flopper you will see. They both come from the same establishment already in place. Neither one of them will change a thing. Obama’s downfall might be telling small business owners they must provide health insurance for their employee’s when they can’t afford the coverage.

  1943. MR Says:

    I don’t know anything about sex with farm animals, Silver Nblack666, nor even sex with human beings that might resemble farm animals. But Cindy McCain does.

  1944. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR..are you still trying to figure out how to meet chicks..or your term pull chicks..first you must do is leave your chair and keyboard..then talk about something chicks are interested in..dont bring up davis or politics or racisim..smile..they will see you as being happy..im only 19 and you need personal coaching..you sound very old and unhappy..go and pull,man..i understand you dont believe me..you lie so much you cant believe anybody..just go out and talk to chicks..even you may find your match..

  1945. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I hate how the media always talks about how Kiffin maybe on his way out.

    Truth be told any NFL coach is always one season away from being fired. Typical spin doctors and rumor mongers that cant find anything else to write about. Journalism today has eroded to the point of fence gossip.

    Long Live Kiffin!!!!!

    I’M IN!!

    I have always been IN!!

    In my past life I was IN!!

  1946. MR Says:

    Rebel, if the story of the two Mrs. McCain’s breaks wide, McCain will lose by a landslide. There’s going to be a record number of female voters in this election and that story will kill him. It’s already out, it’s just not being spotlighted because the Obama camp is sticking to their promise of keeping families out of it. They don’t need it, anyway. They’re beating him just fine with the story buried. But let McCain get desperate and start going after Obama’s family, and the Obama camp will drop the boom on him and make sure the tale of the two Mrs. McCains is fresh in every female voter’s mind on election day.

  1947. SilverNblack666 Says:

    MR so you need some help with the Ladies. I can let you borrow my Leonard Smalls Video (The Lady’s Man)

    Its a sure hit and teaches such great opening lines as “can I buy you a fish sandwich”

  1948. Johnny Rebel Says:

    MR if you are so smart who was the real Johnny Rebel? I used this name to pull your chain and you still haven’t figured it out lol.

  1949. Johnny Rebel Says:

    I liked Obama’s wife’s racist rant on you tube, very enlightening.

  1950. MR Says:

    MR gets under my skin…welcome back!

    Let me get you up to speed.

    Marley’s been on a milk carton since I pointed out his flip flop on Sapp’s comments. Not a peep from him. Is he done here? Is he posting under other names? Never thought he would, but who knows? I really pulled his mask of with that Sapp thing, so he has to be a little embarrassed. Claimed that Sapp was talking about Norv Turner at first, then claimed Sapp was lying. I asked him which was true. He still hasn’t answered. Shame, shame, Bob.

    Anyhow, now we’ve got Johnny Rebel and Satan666 in here telling me I’m gay and I can’t pull chicks, because, only a homo would defend Obama. And, I’m sure these guys are just pimps. And, even though Johnny Rebel is married, I’m sure young, hot, 21 year old girls are flirting with him all of the time, really wanting him. I’m sure the reason he’s faithful to his wife is by choice…I mean, can’t we all tell?

  1951. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Here’s a hint MR think, David Allen Coe.

  1952. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR..politics and football are dead ends to pulling chicks..you need to add some game to your play fella..start by looking good..rest assured that wont be easy..but try..slowly move in and presto..you are the man..the great thing will be if you can find a chick like you that hates davis..the talk would last into the nite..and then it bed time..you will be surprised..davis got you a woman..thats sweet..

  1953. SilverNblack666 Says:

    MR calm down there is no way McCain will win the election with Bush having a 32% approval rating and he is running on the same platform of 8 more years of lies, tierney and the abatement of civil rights.

    Its going to be a landslide anyway with or without the deformed wife story.

  1954. MR Says:

    I liked her rant, too, Rebel. She hit the nail on the head. Call it racist all you want. She spoke the truth, and it didn’t hurt Obama at all. That’s old news, been recycled by the mainstream media more than Anna Nicole’s death. Did no damage to Obama, whatsoever. Hillary was the one behind that, putting Barack on blast over race. She failed. McCain isn’t even going there because he knows Obama will pull his bigger artillery if he does. He’s just hoping white Americans will vote white. Doesn’t look like it’s going to happen.

  1955. SilverNblack666 Says:

    by the way MR I didn’t say you were gay, I said your homosexual tendencies were showing.

    Big difference.

    As far as dating goes I offered you my (Ladies Man) video.

  1956. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LMN made the news…

    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN3040033620080630

  1957. MR Says:

    I’m calm as could ever be, Satan. Since McCain got the Republican nomination, I’ve never had an ounce of uncertainty that either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama could beat him. McCain is the worst candidate ever. I’m just having fun with his supporters.

  1958. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Also Hillary was the better choice for the Dem’s and they blew it, she would have clobbered McCain.

    (her balls are bigger than his)

  1959. Oakglenn Says:

    Because we have three weeks before training camp even opens, I am going to break my long held belief to only come on this site and discuss the Raiders. This is a presidential election year, and this is an important election, I am calling out to MR to join me, MR and I to debate all comers, we’ll take the Obama side, everyone else can take the other side. MR and I will put aside our strident differences, me being a Raider, he being a Whiner, me being straight, he being gay, we’ll put all our differences aside and debate all comers on the coming election, history, and policy decisions. MR, the rest of you, what do you say???

  1960. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Hopefully, if he does get elected, he will eliminate welfare in his first term.

  1961. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR..who is marley..why do you care..you need a woman..you sound very desperate..close ranks..and stop worrying about these internet guys..get out and enjoy life..a woman is just around the corner..where do you live..are you near water..thats the hot spot for woman..leave your love the internet..and find a real love out there..MR i am your mentor ..lets get going..

  1962. MR Says:

    Satan, are you delusional? Barack is going to beat McCain in a landslide. Either him or Hillary would. The second Guilaini chickened out and made up the b.s. excuse about his health and dropped out, leaving the Republican party with bible nuts like Huckabee and stiffs like McCain, this puppy was over. It was either Hillary or Barack, from that point on. Now it’s Barack, and there’s nothing in his way.

  1963. MR is a Liar and Hater Says:

    MR..im off to the beach..i will catch you late

  1964. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Nobody has said they support anybody here yet but you MR, the honky hater.

  1965. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Oakglenn good idea now we would have the gay side represented by MR and the straight side represented by you.

    I like that yes, lets debate:

    Gas prices…I wish I had a time machine and could go back to 1950 and get gas for 50 cents a gallon.

    Which candidate will support my building of a time machine better Obama or McCain?

    Please talk amongst yourselves…

  1966. MR Says:

    Speaking of “pulling chicks”, here’s Oakglenn.

    Hey Oakglenn, did you see me rip your boy Marleys’ mask off yesterday? He’s been on a milk carton since. Review the thread. Dude said that Sapp was talking about Turner and Shell. Then said Sapp was lying. Then when called on his contradiction, disappeared like a rabbit.

  1967. SilverNblack666 Says:

    MR…thanks for addressing me as your lord Satan…I said that Obama would win easily this Fall but I was merely pointing out that Hillary would have won by a larger margin.

  1968. MR Says:

    Honky hater, LOL. I’ll take that. Everyone should be a honky hater. I’m white, but I’m no “honky”. Screw honkies. Let ‘em live in the woods and start their little cockamie militias.

  1969. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Congrats LMN,
    Denmark happiest country in the world!
    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN3045469520080701

  1970. SilverNblack666 Says:

    MR let it go about Marley, your posts are not that compelling to justify someone leaving the forum.

    That is very egocentric and imaginative on your part.

    You are obviously infactuated with Marley and thats why we call you gay.

  1971. MR Says:

    Satan, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Both Obama and Clinton bury McCain. It’s a matter of which of the two it would be. It’s Obama, and it’s a wrap. Once Guiliani, the mayer of America, pussed out and made up some excuse about his health, it left the Republican party with jesus freaks like Huckabee and corpses like McCain. It was over the minute America’s mayer turned into America’s coward.

  1972. MR Says:

    “Mayor”, not “mayer”. Got me there.

  1973. SilverNblack666 Says:

    As far as the Warren Sapp comments go lets hope he pulls a Tiki Barber and talks smack about his old team while they march all the way to the Superbowl.

  1974. MR Says:

    Satan, just telling it like it is. Marley said that Sapp was talking about Turner and Shell, and in the same damned post went on to say that Sapp was lying. All I asked him was which one is it. He’s been gone since. I thought he was the straight shooter around here?

  1975. SilverNblack666 Says:

    MR I am agreeing with you, and you must admit that Hillary would have done slightly better.

    Admit it!

  1976. SilverNblack666 Says:

    MR Marleys absence is probably more drug related than post forum burn syndrome.

  1977. MR Says:

    That’s a good analogy, regarding Tiki Barber. One problem, they’re the Giants, and we’re the Raiders. They aren’t ran by a senile owner who’s lost touch with the modern day game, yet still runs all football operations.

  1978. Oakglenn Says:

    666 good to see ya back here.

  1979. MR Says:

    Slightly, like 1 or 2 points? Sure. I can imagine Hillary doing better in states that McCain would win anyway. But Obama is every bit as much of the candidate she was, and more. McCain is an awful candidate, so it doesn’t matter. This thing is already over.

  1980. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Thanks Oakglenn I would like to follow up on your earlier comment on the election.

    I would like to know your (straight guy) opinion on gay marriages and then a rebuttal from the other side (MR)

  1981. SilverNblack666 Says:

    OK well fine you did finally admit it.

    You are correct there will be a change in administration this Fall and it would have been either Hillary or Obama now it is Obama and he is s very strong candidate.

    Can you say landslide…

  1982. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Re: 1973

    LOL @ “infactuated”….He invented a cool, new word. You heard it here first!

  1983. MR Says:

    Well, a guy who watched “the Ladies man” for tips on how to get women certainly would know if someone is gay…

  1984. La Milicia Negra Says:

    LMN could join with a fact or two from Denmark, but I know Dakota would go ballistic with my ’socia1ist’ state

    LOL

  1985. MR Says:

    Satan, Hillary’s out. It’s over. The division tactic between Hillary and Obama is old news. You had months to beat that drum. It’s over. Obama is the better candidate. Hillary threw the “kitchen sink” at him with the race thing, and he stood tall. If he were white, he would have won by March. Obama will beat McCain as easily as Hillary would, if not more easily.

  1986. SilverNblack666 Says:

    LMAO you mean 1971

    and I meant infatuated.

    Who is dumber the guy who made the typo or the guy who couldn’t point it out without making a lame brain mistake himself.

    Go back to school with your inferiority complex and syntax policing.

  1987. La Milicia Negra Says:

    In Denmark, civil unions with the same rights as marriage have been around since 1989, and other Nordic countries followed suit in the 1990s.

  1988. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    McCain is infactuated with Iran.

    Al Davis is infactuated with 40-yard dash times.

    Just win baby.

  1989. Dakota Says:

    Denmark…one step away from Communism.

  1990. SilverNblack666 Says:

    MR calm down…and yes Hillary is out and some of us are not happy about it.

  1991. Oakglenn Says:

    So whaddya say MR?? You and me against the conservative world?? We take on all comers??? Oakglenn and MaddenRaider on the same team???? wheeew. Armaggeadon must be approaching.

    666, there’s my personal opinion on gay marraige, my legal and political opinion on gay marraige and then there’s this opinion that I am gonna espouse right now. The gay marraige issue is designed to confuse the populace as to the more pressing problems in this country which include the education, health care, economic, and foreign policy directions this country needs to take. Once all of those issues are headed in the right direction, I will be more than happy to prioritize and discuss the gay marraige issue.

  1992. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LMN, was that you in the local Copenhagen news? (post 1959)

  1993. Dakota Says:

    Nothing wrong with gay marriage…but once you morally bankrupt liberals decide to legalize bestiality I am moving out of the US.

  1994. StockownRaider Says:

    FYI- I just read good news on the net a couple days ago. Randy Cotoure’s wife just fought in a cage fighting match and had here jaw broken in two or three places. She said they have a new procedure for fixing broken jaws. They don’t wire shut all the time. They place titanium inside to hold the jaw togethor. This helps the persons jaw be stronger and the healing time is half as long as normal. Hopefully with the money Javon has, he hears about this new procedure!

  1995. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo…

    LOL…

    “A drunken 78-year-old Swede” Im not a Swede, and I’m definitely no 78 years old =)

  1996. SilverNblack666 Says:

    “The gay marraige issue is designed to confuse the populace as to the more pressing problems in this country which include the education, health care, economic, and foreign policy directions this country needs to take. Once all of those issues are headed in the right direction, I will be more than happy to prioritize and discuss the gay marraige issue.”

    Very Nice…Well put!!!

    We have Millions of hungry people right here in America and yet we spend Billions of dollars on stuff like space exploration.

    We are the richest country in the world yet most of us don’t have health insurance.

    We used to be an entrepreneurial country and now we are dependent on foreign oil.

    In the 1800’s the British put to high of a tax on Maple syrup (used to make whiskey) so what did we do as Americans we then made whiskey our of corn.

    The same should be said for energy consumption.

    Please do retort.

  1997. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I wonder if someone is going to say

    2000!!!

  1998. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    holy sheep schit!!!

    gay marriage talk on an OAKLAND RAIDER BLOG!!!!

    dam has this site gone oprah or ellen……

    dam it boys!!!!! i’ll try back later.

  1999. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    July 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm
    In Denmark, civil unions with the same rights as marriage have been around since 1989, and other Nordic countries followed suit in the 1990s.
    _______________________________________________________

    No wonder more and more of you are turning up with brown eyes.

  2000. RaiderNationPA Says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  2001. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    LOL

    yeah… Usa used to be the land who broke frontiers… Now you only 20 years behind =)

    At least California tries to keep up the pace =)

  2002. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    I guess you learned Intelligent Design in school, and not how the birds and bees work =) LOL

  2003. Oakglenn Says:

    Nice call on the morals of this country that the Bush/Cheney ticket got elected on. The republicans were elected on the plank to bring morals back to the White House. Let’s look at how well they have done:

  2004. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    Don’t worry, we will break new frontiers once again…soon Californians will be pushing the right to practice bestiality…

    I know Europeans already hump their animals, but it is still widely frowned upon in the US.

  2005. Dakota Says:

    Shoot, I guess it’s not a new frontier if Europe is already doing it…

    I guess we really are behind the times!

  2006. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    Muhaahaha… good one =)

  2007. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    When it comes to health care, vital infrastructure, regulation of drugs/food/pollution, and guns, Republicans want SMALL government.

    When it comes to abortion, defense spending, death penalty, drugs, and gay mairraige, the Republicans want a BIG government.

    Hypocrits!

  2008. vegas raider Says:

    Mr: My wife is black, I have no problems with any race, including african-americans. I think when people, like you, keep bringing up racism, when I wasn’t, it takes away from the ACTUAL racism that is out there. Go Raiders

  2009. Florida Pete Says:

    2009…

    the year we return to sanity !!!

  2010. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo….

    Exactly…

    That have always been my point… and you can add, they don’t want to pay for any of the service they demand =)

  2011. La Milicia Negra Says:

    FL Pete!!

  2012. Florida Pete Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 1st, 2008 at 12:57 pm
    LMN,

    Don’t worry, we will break new frontiers once again…soon Californians will be pushing the right to practice bestiality…

    I know Europeans already hump their animals, but it is still widely frowned upon in the US.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    frowned upon, yes, especially in the Dakotas…

  2013. Florida Pete Says:

    RIMSHOT !!!!

  2014. Dakota Says:

    Mod…why can’t I say woodp3cker on this site??? lol. Was it the context???

  2015. Florida Pete Says:

    LMN

    good raider day to you, sir !

  2016. Oakglenn Says:

    Looks like I have been banned from political discussion

  2017. vegas raider Says:

    When did Lombardi between a scribe anyways??

  2018. Florida Pete Says:

    eh ?

  2019. La Milicia Negra Says:

    2018…

    please explain what you mean?!

  2020. Dakota Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    July 1st, 2008 at 1:04 pm
    Dakota Says:
    July 1st, 2008 at 12:57 pm
    LMN,

    Don’t worry, we will break new frontiers once again…soon Californians will be pushing the right to practice bestiality…

    I know Europeans already hump their animals, but it is still widely frowned upon in the US.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    frowned upon, yes, especially in the Dakotas…

    ______________________________________________________

    It really brings the cattle prices down when the cows are bowlegged…

  2021. vegas raider Says:

    I thought he was involved in personnel and such still, and now he is writing for SI? Doesn’t seem like a step-up in one’s career

  2022. Florida Pete Says:

    just cook it longer…

  2023. Dakota Says:

    too salty…

  2024. Dakota Says:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-07-01-midwest-killings_N.htm

    Has anyone seen CT Jim. aka MO Jim aka Ill Jim???

    I think the authorities are looking for him.

  2025. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota, I live 45 miles from Rock falls, IL where this bozo did his last work…

    Did you see his photo? Boy sure looks like a Dakotan (North of course).

  2026. Dakota Says:

    NBA Rumors:

    Baron Davis sign and trade for Lamar Odom…

    Warriors make max offer to Arenas…

  2027. KoolKell Says:

    CNN Study:
    Denmark is the happiest country in the World.

    USA #16

  2028. RaiderTW Says:

    Incredible, how many gay sex scandals were the Republicans involved with in the last 10 years????
    Party of morals & values………

  2029. KoolKell Says:

    ANN ARBOR, Mich., July 1 (UPI) — Americans may be used to being No. 1 in many things, but when it comes happiness the United States ranks No. 16, a survey indicates.

    The World Values Survey, the work of a global network of social scientists, says happiness increased from 1981 to 2007 in 45 of 52 countries.

    “Rich is better than poor, but more importantly being free — being in a democracy — as well as gender equality and tolerance of minorities were the key factors to happiness,” study director Ronald Inglehart of the University of Michigan’s Institute for Social Research, told United Press International. “The most important determinant of happiness is the extent to which people have free choice in how to live their lives.”

    Denmark tops the list of surveyed nations, along with Puerto Rico and Colombia. A dozen other countries, including Ireland, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Canada and Sweden also rank above the United States. Three of the world’s poorer countries with long histories of repressive government — Moldova, Armenia and Zimbabwe — are at the bottom of the list.

    The survey, published in the journal Perspectives on Psychological Science, had a representative sample of about 1,400 in each country and the margin of error of 3 percentage points to 5 percentage points.

  2030. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”Scout.com’s Adam Caplan reports that the Patriots released Willie Andrews. This hasn’t been confirmed elsewhere just yet, but it was expected after Andrews’ latest gun-related arrest. The third-year pro was no lock to make the roster after failing to develop at cornerback. He’s a fine returner.”—

  2031. Dakota Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 1st, 2008 at 1:25 pm
    CNN Study:
    Denmark is the happiest country in the World.

    USA #16
    ____________________________________________________

    Danes are happy because they have a good thing going. They are like all of the Raiders’ defensive players that love Rob Ryan. No accountability, no responsibility, just sit back and collect a paycheck.

    No wonder those soci@lists are happy.

  2032. Dakota Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 1st, 2008 at 1:24 pm
    Dakota, I live 45 miles from Rock falls, IL where this bozo did his last work…

    Did you see his photo? Boy sure looks like a Dakotan (North of course).
    _______________________________________________________

    I checked it out…does kind of look like someone I know from Dickinson ND…

    …he also looks like that actor from Alpha Dog…the one that played the victim’s older brother.

  2033. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota,

    Maybe America can stop trying to rule the world as well.

  2034. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    post 2033, who are you talking about?

  2035. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    July 1st, 2008 at 1:39 pm
    Dakota…

    post 2033, who are you talking about?
    _______________________________________________

    The guy in this story:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-07-01-midwest-killings_N.htm

  2036. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LOL, typing “Soci@list” gets you moderated…

    I feel violated, and I think I’ll sue.

  2037. Dakota Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 1st, 2008 at 1:39 pm
    Dakota,

    Maybe America can stop trying to rule the world as well.
    _____________________________________________________

    Okay…

    I just want everyone to bend to our will…I don’t want to rule anyone, lol.

  2038. La Milicia Negra Says:

    dang..

    he looks like a real nice fella, and his record clearly show he is a stand up guy… :/

    chicagotribune.com/media/alternatethumbnails/quote/2008-07/40592964-01095650.jpg

  2039. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bo…

    all that PC cant handle, use a 1, a 3 or Z instead, then the filter let them through…

    1raq
    J3w
    Socializt…

  2040. KoolKell Says:

    No news in the Javon Walker incident???

    What’s the defendants saying????

  2041. La Milicia Negra Says:

    KoolKell…

    “I’m so so Sowwy”

  2042. MR Says:

    Oakglenn and Dakota’s posts are being cut? Mods, tip coming your way. Keep up the good work.

  2043. Dakota Says:

    KK, here is what the defendant had to say when interviewed on TV:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

  2044. MR Says:

    My god…are Republicans still trying to scare people with the soci**ism and com**nism threat? Talk about being stuck in the ’60s…

  2045. Florida Pete Says:

    hmmm…

    communist…

  2046. Florida Pete Says:

    fascist…

  2047. La Milicia Negra Says:

    MR…

    do you think there are a MOD following all our posts, Come on man…

    you stuff a filter on the site, enter the No-No names and words, and then of you go!

  2048. Florida Pete Says:

    hmmm…

    communism…

  2049. Florida Pete Says:

    fascism…

  2050. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota was implying we have a soci@list defense…

    Thats it I’m voting for McCain.

  2051. KoolKell Says:

    Here’s what Sapp said:

    “As dark as a black hole. Stuff went on in that organization that shouldn’t go on in sports. I don’t think there’s one person who knows who or what is making the call. Let’s just say the Oakland experience is unique. The phone rings quite a bit on that sideline. Insubordination is grounds for termination in any company.”

  2052. MR Says:

    Vegas, the “actual racism” that is out there is the closet racism people like you suffer from. It enables what’s left of the damaging racism that police and property owners still engage in frequently. Tell your black wife I said hello. You wouldn’t be the first racist to have sex with black women, Vegas. Most slave owners did. What’s the point of bringing your wife into this?

  2053. Florida Pete Says:

    ah…

    spelling soc!alism with a z get a moderation…

    velly, velly interesting…

    but stupid.

  2054. MR Says:

    Bo, the word “socia**ism” is dead. Republicans always go to that card when they’ve got nothing else. And, I’ll give you my condolences in advance for voting for McCain.

  2055. McCain's Best Fundraiser Says:

    John, order this newspaper to post a new thread. If you don’t, I might withdraw my support of your campaign. DO IT NOW. John? John!!!!!!!!!!!

  2056. Florida Pete Says:

    lol…

    this is actually fun…

  2057. KoolKell Says:

    You can guess who’s making those calls. If you’re clueless, here’s former Raider employee Mike Lombardi writing for SI.com:

    “Having worked in that “black hole” for eight years, I know exactly what Warren is talking about. And those calls to the sideline are from one man and one man only. At times I have been the reluctant messenger on a few of them myself. They are never pleasant

  2058. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Re: Voting for McCain, soci@lism, etc.

    MR, if you pay closer attention you might detect my sarcasm. Or maybe when you get older you will understand.

  2059. Florida Pete Says:

    i wonder how many people in the bay area could claim they:

    “bagged a Lombardi” ???

    man, i crack me up…

  2060. KoolKell Says:

    As I was once told, there’s a reason why the Raiders rarely blitz on defense.

    Best case: Davis’ calls provide insight that help. But with all that goes on during a game, no coach wants to worry about taking a message from the owner during a game

    The practice only reminds players their coach really has no say. And there are players that view Raiders coaches as puppets.

  2061. RaiderTW Says:

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2008/07/a-medical-use-f.html

  2062. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    OBAMA/SAPP ‘08

  2063. Bo Schembechler Jackson