Can Mario be super?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, July 1st, 2008 at 2:25 pm in Oakland Raiders.
First in a series of concerns regarding the makeup of the 2008 Raiders with the reporting date approaching on July 25 at the Napa Marriott:
There is a lot of speculation regarding the Raiders’ potential problems at tackle, with most of it centering on the left side and free acquisition Kwame Harris.
I am more concerned about the right side, where it appears Cornell Green was in the process of holding off second-year man Mario Henderson during the mandatory minicamp and OTAs.
Harris, the way I understand it, was personally approved by line coach Tom Cable, who deserves the benefit of the doubt considering what he did with the Raiders line last season. The Raiders think they can take some of the pressure off Harris with quick timing passes and blocking help from fullbacks or backs in motion, and think Harris can be a real asset on the second level in the running game.
This isn’t a knock at Green, who is coming off knee surgery and beginning his 10th season. He is your classic veteran backup, a good locker room guy who can fill in in a pinch without a significant dropoff.
In other words, the perfect guy to have around to help out a first-time starter.
In theory, that would be Henderson, whom the Raiders traded up to get in the third round in the 2007 draft. Henderson was so raw he suited up only once even though Green was gone after 10 games with a knee injury.
Instead of seeing Henderson take a quantum leap after his year of learning, there have been more red flags than in the parking lot at Arrowhead Stadium.
It was more than simply the sight of Derrick Burgess racing around Henderson during the mandatory camp, and other linemen doing the same. Burgess can make a lot of linemen look silly, especially when they’re prohibited from firing off putting them on the ground. Nor was it the fact that other linemen were also getting past him.
It also wasn’t all that big a deal to see Cable get into Henderson pretty good on occasion, because that’s what Cable does.
It was coach Lane Kiffin’s assessment of Henderson’s issues which make you wonder if the 6-foot-7, 300-pounder is ready to seize the job and make his mark as an NFL player.
“Pads will be big for Mario. Mario’s got a lot of tools but he needs to become a physical player,” Kiffin said. “To play on this line, we want physical guys and so that’s where Mario is going to have to really grow.”
And then there was this:
“There was a lot of ability there when we picked him,” Kiffin said. “There were some questions about how physical he was, about his passion for the game, for the position, so we’re trying to improve that.”
So he’s an offensive tackle on a run-oriented team who is neither physical nor has a real passion for the game _ which only happen to be two of the most important attributes a lineman can have.
Perhaps Henderson isn’t physical because he is not yet sure of his footwork or responsibilities. He was a late-bloomer of sorts at Florida State and the same thing could be going on in the NFL.
The “passion” issue is more troubling. Kiffin talked of developing the trait, but is that even possible? You’re either passionate about something or you aren’t. If Henderson isn’t consumed by the desire to be a great player, it doesn’t seem likely to happen because his coach said it should. That doesn’t mean he can’t be a professional, a clock-puncher who works at his craft even if he doesn’t love it, but it certainly could prevent him from being an elite player.
The most striking example I can remember of passion being an issue with an emerging player was with tight end Rickey Dudley. In researching a lengthy profile on Dudley in 1998, I learned that all his basketball coaches absolutely loved him and his football coaches never knew what to make of him.
Dudley loved basketball. As a player at Ohio State, he was the team captain, most inspirational player and requested to defend the opposition’s best player so he could lock him up.
As a football player, Dudley liked the sport but never loved it the way he did basketball. It wasn’t his fault, really, because that sort of thing can’t be faked.
If Henderson has issues with passion now, it’s fair to speculate he may always have them.
Catching up
– So the police report says Javon Walker has a broken jaw as well as a fractured orbital bone. If that report is correct, and frankly I don’t know if the officers check with the hospital to verify medical facts, then Walker is either one fast healer or Kiffin was being overly optimistic in saying the injuries weren’t an iassue for training camp.
– Jason Cole’s Yahoo.com story which reported that Al Davis was second-guessing some of his offseason decisions drew a stern rebuke from Raiders spokesman Mike Taylor.
“You obviously don’t know Al Davis. Self-doubt is not part of teh equation with Al Davis. I’m not going to justify this tripe, this drivel by even asking (Davis) for a response,” Taylor said. “It’s ludicrous, it’s insane, it’s rumor-mongering and it’s irresponsible journalism.”
In one sense, Cole came off better in the Raiders eyes than Adam Schefter did when he reported (correctly, as it turned out) that Art Shell would be fired at the end of the 2006 season.
In that instance, the Raiders response was that Schefter was a “false rumor-monger.” Cole was simply involved in “rumor mongering.” Nobody said it was false.
Seriously, I have a hard time imagining Davis spilling all his doubts and fears regarding the offseason, not when the Raiders haven’t even reported to training camp.
If things don’t go well, the more likely scenario is silence, with someone else taking the fall.
– Warren Sapp told the St. Petersburg Times that his experience with the Raiders was “as dark as a black hole” and noted “stuff went on in that organization that shouldn’t go on in sports.”
What to make of it?
What did you expect? Sapp came from tremendous success at Tampa to a team with the worst record in the NFL during his tenure. Losing teams get bashed by departing players. All of them. Period.
Sapp is a more brash, profane version of Tim Brown _ a great storyteller and a remarkable quote, but someone who will fashion his answers for the best effect. When talking to NFL Films about the Bucs Super Bowl season, he said Jon Gruden took them the extra step and his hiring was necessary to get there.
Now he is saying Tony Dungy baked the cake, and all Gruden did was put on the icing. And you can make the argument that both answers are right.
Many thanks
A lot of people I talked to at my father’s memorial service Saturday who had read my blog regarding his death made mention of the string of heartfelt comments that followed the piece.
My family thanks you and I thank you.
I’d also like to thank Bay Area News Group-East Bay for making a “Toys for Tots’ contribution in my father’s name.
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July 1st, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Denmark rules!
July 1st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Copenhagen is better than Skoal
July 1st, 2008 at 2:32 pm
I’d rather Mario be more like bowser
July 1st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Nice to see a new post.
Henderson better step it up.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Glad to have you back Jerry, Love and Light to you at this time. You know he’s with you at all time. That’s the cool thing, he’s free to go and do all that he wants.
Only three weeks and it all begins again. I’m in!
July 1st, 2008 at 2:34 pm
I knew Jerry wouldn’t take weeks and weeks off like a girly man…welcome back Jerry.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Welcome Back Jerry Mac!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
How bout for this blog we just say no to politics?????
July 1st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Jerry…to update you on the happenings while you are away:
We discovered LMN hates Americans, especially the fat, lazy ones…
MR is still a fraud boy and liar…
Florida Pete is still funny…
Oakglenn still hates MR…
M is still missing, along with Memo…
Dakota is still always right…
That about brings you up to date.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Don’t they research that whole passion thing before they trade up to get him in the third round??
July 1st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Hi Nation. You are all losers.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
about time there is a new blog i thought i was on THE VIEW and MR was Barbara Walters……………
July 1st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Nice list Dakota,..heres one you missed…: Dakota is still gay.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Welcome back Jerry.
You were missed, Really missed!!
July 1st, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Hello Raider Nation,
Welcome back Jerry!!
As for no to politics, heres a link to an article that claims that E. Howard Hunt and the Watergate burglars were the hit team on the grassy knoll in Dallas, and Nixon was involved.
http://surftofind.com/nixon
No to politics…. LOL
July 1st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Jesus H Christ Says:
July 1st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Nice list Dakota,..heres one you missed…: Dakota is still gay.
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Jesus, that wasn’t nice at all!
July 1st, 2008 at 2:50 pm
I got banned because of my political views. Doesn’t that make me some sort of hero?
July 1st, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Well, it has been fun carrying this blog for the past 10 days or so…but now that Jerry is back my job is finished. The comment count remained high as I promised Jerry it would…now it is time for me to take a couple of days off.
Take it easy you liberal swine.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Dakota..
not that there is anything wrong with it =)
July 1st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Dakota…
don’t kid yourself, wyou’ll be back!!! Soon =)
July 1st, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Since you guys still want politics, I say we revert back to Anarchism.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Only 21 posts in half an hour after everybody cried for a new thread??
July 1st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Jerry, dammit, I want to talk more about Keller. Back to the previous thread, everyone. Now.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Nice to see you back Jerry
July 1st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
What do you mean revert back??? Obviously you don’t live in Oakland ABA.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Thanks, AI. Actually like Barbara Walters. Smart woman.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Me personally, I’m more likely to believe a reporter/Writer than Mike Taylor.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
It seems that Jerry listens to the “in Cable we trust” mantra. I am just as concerned about both tackle spots. I hope we don’t need to keep a TE, RB, FB back for blocking help on every pass play. Kind of defeats the purpose if you are trying to spread the field and creat favorable mis-matches.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Nice article in SI last week about Oakland. Painted a pretty crappy picture
July 1st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Anyhow, I’m going to go ahead now and actually read Jerry’s new post.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Good point #28. Especially if said TE or RB might end up being our better receiving threats.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
July 1st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
What do you mean revert back??? Obviously you don’t live in Oakland ABA.
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LOL I was about to write something similar, but deleted it =)
July 1st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Oakglenn,
I live in the midwest. Grew up in the bay area.
I personally prefer totalitarianism. Kind of like Al with the Raiders.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Actually Jerry, the Raiders did say the rumor-monger’s report was false. They stated that “No decision has been made”. Of course this statement was obviously too hard for Adam to understand as he started crying that ‘why don’t they just say he’s staying then’.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
LMN,
Your country should try it, no wait, you already did when you had Vikings who pillaged and raped.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:10 pm
El Dirty…
Lay low on the Caffeine… how many cans have you swallowed?
July 1st, 2008 at 3:10 pm
MR Stalker, the point Jerry was making is that every time the Raiders call someone a rumor monger, their “rumor” winds up being true. The rumor of Al Davis being completely confused, therefore, is probably true. Would you be surprised? It’s obvious Al has no clue what he’s doing anymore. You do understand that, right?
July 1st, 2008 at 3:10 pm
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest Al Davis is having second thoughts about Javon Walker at least.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
MR Stalker, why are you and Al more concerned with the press than building winning teams? Why?
July 1st, 2008 at 3:13 pm
MR Stalker, btw, is Al still using the regular Preparation H, or is he using the red label now, you know, for bleeders? No better source than the guy who fetches it for him, and applies it.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
ABA…
well history isn’t your strong suit I see…
they lived here, travel to france, ireland, england and other places to pillage…
and the way the ruled was a kind of democracy, not the real thing of course. But the rights people had was not seen before the 1850’s
July 1st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Kool: If he can’t practice most of training camp and plays very little in preseason is his roster spot secure? I say no, but his contract might say otherwise
July 1st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
#27, Having met mediots and Mike Taylor, I’m much more likely to listen to Mike Taylor
July 1st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
25 days and a wakeup till practice.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
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July 1st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Gee KoolKell ya think? What would make you think that Al is regretting signing Walker?
July 1st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Come on..
do you really believe he will be ready for week 1? I think he will see action in week 3 or so…
July 1st, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Since everyone can post this rap crap, figured I’d post some real music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqPpbqSnAI
July 1st, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Vegas,
At this point, I’m very interested in what the defendant has to say about what happened. Because if there’s drugs involved, Al’s contract clauses might come into play
Otherwise, he’ll probably have a slow start in camp, but still be expected to do what he was signed to do as the regular season apporaches
July 1st, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Jerry, someone is posting under my name. This is b.s. Can we do something about this, please? This is unfair. #48 is not MaddenRaiderSlapper, everyone. Oh, now low it must be to clone other peoples’ names. I swear. The gall on some people.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:21 pm
“MR Stalker, the point Jerry was making is that every time the Raiders call someone a rumor monger, their “rumor” winds up being true”
Like Kiffin is going to be fired by March 15th…
Or like no free agent in their right mind would sign with the Raiders this offseason…
Like how JaMarcus Russell is over 300lbs…
Should I go on…No because You are wrong MR and the Media is wrong AGAIN!!
July 1st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
LMN,
Don’t you know we ignorant Americans get our history from watching movies like Eric the Red and the 13th Warrior????
July 1st, 2008 at 3:23 pm
We’ve got a real shot at the Super Bowl this year, guys. But the mediots don’t want to report on it. Take it from me, I’ve met people from the media, and Al Davis. And Al Davis is far more trustworthy. We’ve really got a chance at 15-1 this year.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Wannabe Satan Worshiper, the mainstream press reported that Davis drafted Kiffin a resignation letter, and that Kiffin declined. They also reported that if Davis fired him, he would have to pay Kiffin extra money. That story still has legs. No events have rebuked it, yet. All the press said was that Davis wants him to quit, but he wont. Story is valid. You’re in denial. But what else is new? In order to be an Al Davis loyalist these days, denial is a prerequisite.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Kool:
Dude is a convicted felon, so it is going to be hard for anything he says to stick. I think drugs may have been involved, but it will be hard to prove that. If he isn’t ready for at least the last game or so in preseason, the timing with Jamarcus could be way off, and that will make it tough for him to do what he was signed to do
July 1st, 2008 at 3:27 pm
The one thing I have learned from being a lifetime Raider fan is that you cannot EVER believe a media. For years haters like Nancy Gay and Ann Killion have made a living catering to the niner fans in the Bay Area by constantly throwing us under the bus.
Now the rest of you need to wake up and see that Jerry is a Charger fan (from San Diego) that doesn’t like the Raiders and it is sometimes very evident in his rants.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Funny, the only thing I have learned from being a lifetime Raider fan is that you cannot EVER believe the Raiders.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:29 pm
http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/blogs/mykle-vanhausen/140-what-s-deal-raider-tackle-mario-henderson.html
What’s the Deal with Raider Tackle Mario Henderson?
Posted 06-01-2008 at 11:21 PM by Mykle VanHausen
orig.posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008
Besides Jamarcus Russell, the Raiders have several talented, but unproven players who could be poised to prove their metal in 08′.
Despite the fact the Raiders have brought in Kwame Harris from across the Bay, it’s a possibility Mario Henderson could see time at Left Tackle in 08′.
The Raiders moved up in a trade with the Patriots to get him in the 3rd round of the 07′ Draft and many in Oakland we’re puzzled by the fact Henderson remained on the sidelines all year.
Though vastly improved over their dreadful 06′ season, the Raiders front line still had and has many questions. Among them, the role Henderson will play in the coming season.
The 6-7, 300 lb. Henderson is a large athlete with long arms and only adequate footwork. One of the primary reasons we didn’t see him at all last year may be contributed to the fact he’d appeared in only three games prior to his senior season. Henderson made great strides that final year at Florida State which prompted the Raiders to take a chance on his serious potential.
His lack of experience was most telling when it came to the basics. Henderson needed a lot of work just to get the fundamentals polished and has shown a tendency to fall of blocks and leave some plays unfinished.
He is a massive blocker who combines his great height and bulk with the physical talent to win over individual opponents. Henderson displays the footwork to slide on the outside in pass protection and contain speed rushers, but is very green and lacks proper technique, but when he does lock on to pass rushers he’s shown the ability to stop opponents charges.
Working against Henderson, besides his limited football experience, was the fact he lacked the functional strength to get consistent movement to control and move the line.
It will be very interesting to see if Henderson and the Raiders have used last year and this off season to strengthen and sound the young Florida Stater who showed such late promise for the Seminoles .
It was obvious Henderson was going to need a lot of work when he was selected, but with Barry Sims whiffing on pass rushers and Cornell Greene going down later in the season, some Raider fans viewed the fact Henderson wasn’t even suited up as a sign he might not be any good and another wasted pick by Oaklands sometimes notorious Drafts.
Only time will tell what and if Henderson contributes to the Silver and Black, but in his favor is Tom Cable’s Zone Blocking System which Robert Gallery, (who suffered under the Raiders rotating Coaching dilemma of years past) described as “forgiving.”
To Raider fans sick of losing and in todays multi-billion dollar NFL one can be excused for the “want it all, want it now” attitude, but the Raiders seemed to understand early on the big Tackle was going to be a project and took the very old school approach of bringing him along at a decelerated pace, rather than throwing him into the fire.
Whether we see him at Left Tackle this year for the Raiders is anyones guess, but with Sims gone and Harris’ pass protection leaving Frisco fans unimpressed, we may find out in 08′ if Mario is ready to contribute at the Pro level or not.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Camp opens in 3 weeks, depending on the severity of the fractures, but I don’t see how he’ll be ready for contact in camp.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Also, this Raider season could be great, but if we start say 1-3, it could be a total disaster, firing Kiffen and players quiting. So we need production starting in week 1, and if Shields or some other rookie can do it better than Jovan….
July 1st, 2008 at 3:30 pm
MR
Kiffin is still employed so the rumor mongering was false and unnecessary not to mention that any coaches job in the NFL is never safe. DUH you could easily write a similar article about any one of the 31 other head coaches.
What about the media reports that JaMarcus was over 300lbs?
July 1st, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Einstein, Elton John and Rupal are fans. They’re friends with Al. If you want to bash them, fine. But real Raider fans are loyal to not only the Raiders, but friends of the Raiders, as well. Support your team. Don’t be like MaddenRaider. We’re 15-1 this year, and winning the Super Bowl. Every team in the league is afraid of us. Believe me, don’t listen to the media. They’re just hating on us. They’re jealous.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Ok, based on the posts I see school is out and it’s Romper Room time. Im out.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Wannabe satan guy, look, I know you devil worshipers are a little slow, especially the wannabes like you, who are nothing more than dorky KISS fans, but try and pay close attention, I’ll explain it to you one more time…..
The media reported that Al Davis drafted Kiffin a resignation letter, and that Kiffin refused to sign it. Nothing has happened since then to rebuke that story. In fact, when Kiffin was asked about it, his response was that where there’s smoke, there’s fire. That’s a yes, Kelly Osbourn.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:33 pm
MR Stalker, the point Jerry was making is that every time the Raiders call someone a rumor monger, their “rumor” winds up being true. The rumor of Al Davis being completely confused, therefore, is probably true. Would you be surprised? It’s obvious Al has no clue what he’s doing anymore. You do understand that, right?
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Every time? They’ve called ONE person a rumor-monger, and again said that NO decision had been made. Were you the same prick that was saying Al would keep Art just to spite Schefter? Schefter stating that a coach with a 2-14 record and a gawd-awful offense would get fired isn’t exactly the same as Alex Jones stating their would be an attack on US Soil blamed on somebody else. But I’m glad that impresses you so much.
By the way, the Raiders aren’t concerened more with the press then they are winning dumba$$. Of course a dumba$$ like you thinks Mike Taylor taking a minute to tell a reporter that he’s effing stupid or releasing a paragraph to the media 2 years ago really eats up at personnel evaluation so that will fly right by you.
And yes, I know you’re delusional enough to believe that you have the proper knowledge to tell a guy with 3 superbowl rings, 5 AFC titles that he doesn’t know how to build a team. After all, we didn’t take your DT that you wanted in the first round, which our first-round pick thoroughly embarrassed the past two years without any threat of a passing game(well I guess DMC was the major passing threat). By the way, when are you gonna break down those games for me. I mean you’re the one that claimed that Dorsey was just ONE guy, so if you can take a break from the sandwich arts and explain line play to us lower-life forms why Dorsey ’stops the run’ even when he can’t stop a one-dimensional offense I’m all ears.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:34 pm
MR what the hell are you doing here if you hate the Raiders so much.
Secondly there is no such thing as Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy or the devil. The earth is 4.5 billion years old we evolved the religious argument is long over.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:36 pm
# Al’s Bedpan Attendant Says:
July 1st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
LMN,
Don’t you know we ignorant Americans get our history from watching movies like Eric the Red and the 13th Warrior????
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Muhahahha
July 1st, 2008 at 3:37 pm
I miss Gruden.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
“The media reported that Al Davis drafted Kiffin a resignation letter, and that Kiffin refused to sign it. Nothing has happened since then to rebuke that story. In fact, when Kiffin was asked about it, his response was that where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”
Wrong!!
It was the reporter who said where there is smoke there is fire Kiffin said no comment you are miss quoting people.
Have you seen this “alleged” letter, NO therefore you cannot prove it exists.
Secondly wake up and stop living in a Leave it Beaver Time warp. As previous posted there is no such this as Santa Claus or the devil.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
The media reported that Al Davis drafted Kiffin a resignation letter, and that Kiffin refused to sign it. Nothing has happened since then to rebuke that story. In fact, when Kiffin was asked about it, his response was that where there’s smoke, there’s fire. That’s a yes, Kelly Osbourn.
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Uh, no a yes, is when you say the words ‘yes’…BTW what about Schefter’s report that Hall wasn’t coming here, then the next day it was done.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
silver,
i don’t know about the devil or santa claus but i am pretty sure tooth fairy is real..
July 1st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
When Gruden was here, my kids still talked to me.
Come back Grudy.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Well, I think I showed MaddenRaider. We’re done here. You can all go home, now. Like I said, we’re winning the Super Bowl this year. Never trust the media. 15-1, and Super Bowl bound. The whole league is afraid of Russell. That’s what we’re hearing. Never mind the press. Al Davis has 3 Super Bowl trophies. How many do Jerry and MaddenRaider have? That’s what I thought. And Al Davis did it all on his own, too. Ron Wolf, Madden, all puppets. The reason why Al can’t win more than 5 games these days is because the league is conspiring against hime. Everyone knows that. But we don’t have to worry about that anymore. Al’s loaded Kiffin up with all of the toys he needs for us to win 15 games this year. So if we don’t win 15 games, it’s not Al’s fault.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Wannabe satan worshiper, come on. Even I know Kiffin is quoted as saying where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Don’t come to a gun fight with a butter knife. Let me handle MR.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
okay… I’m out, maybe I come back later…
A new thread, didn’t help..
July 1st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Kiffin will be here not only this year but next year too.
One known fact is that you and the Media will never know what goes on behind Al Davis’s closed doors and you will always have to speculate and create rumors and spread hate in retaliation to this shroud of secrecy.
Last thing, Jerry is a Charger fan I don’t trust him.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
That’s right MR, keep impersonating me and keep making up sh!t that I HAVE NEVER said to try make yourself look less stupid. You are, were, and will always be a chicken-sh!t liar.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Seriously, don’t you guys miss Gruden a little?,
July 1st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Enough of this rap crap people are posting in here. This is what I do pilates to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMz-wi50ACU
July 1st, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Madden WANG slapper
This is a forum not some kind of cyber fight where you can prove you machismo by posting angrily.
You are feeble minded at best and should not act like a internet bully. Instead try something you might be good at like towel boy at the YMCA.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Jerry, dammit, MR is posting under my name!! Little moderation, please? I mean, I spend hours coming up with a creative handle for this here fine blog. And then someone just rips it off. It’s not right. post number 77 is NOT me. I fed up with this b.s., Jerry.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
MR Says:
Seriously, don’t you guys miss Gruden…corn holing MR while fondling WANG slapper?
July 1st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I agree, Silver 666, I hate MaddenRaider. He’s copying my name. MaddenRaiderSlapper belongs to me. I had to jog my brain for hours to come up with that. Now it’s gone. Damn commies. Go Raiders! 15-1. Super Bowl! That’s common knowledge around NFL circles. The whole league is afraid of us. But the press won’t report it.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:48 pm
WHHHAAAAAA Jerry there are internet bullies out there….
MOMMY!!!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Satan worshiper if no one knows what goes on behind closed doors, how do you know Kiffin will be back NEXT year.
Speculation?
You must have taken the short bus to school.
Go Satan!
July 1st, 2008 at 3:49 pm
I like the new Madden Raider Slapper he is cool and has a positive outlook on the upcoming season!
July 1st, 2008 at 3:51 pm
MR get off my nuts or I will have to believe post #1971 in the last string that clearly says you have homosexual tendencies.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:54 pm
SatanWorshiper what if I am GAY.
Do you have a problem with gay people?
Go Satan!
July 1st, 2008 at 3:56 pm
If it weren’t for the National Sports media, we would know even less about the Raiders.
The Local Media is clearly intimidated, and protecting their advertising income.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:57 pm
no MR I don’t but since you were getting dating advice in the earlier thread I thought I would find out your sexual preference.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:57 pm
KoolKell How bout a little Koolkell rap for the people.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Nice point KoolKell
July 1st, 2008 at 3:59 pm
SatanWorshiper do you want to get together later and talk about it?
July 1st, 2008 at 3:59 pm
MR why are you so enamored with Satan?
July 1st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
LMAO at the silverNblack666 impersonator.
Thats funny
July 1st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
What we need to do is stop accumulating Florida St. players, via draft or free agency.
Jano
Derrick Gibson
Mario Henderson
Javon Walker
Am I missing anyone? Bryant ended his brief career by injury, so he get’s a pass of the FSU list.
Did you know the only player FSU has put in the Hall of Fame is our own Fred Bilitnikoff?
Sure Deion and Derrick Brooks are locks for the HOF, but for a school that get’s so much hype (now and over the years) for producing so much talent….it seems like most of it is mediocre.
Yet we love to put them on our squad.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
MR, I’m not gay. I told you. I’ll never let myself be gay. I’m strong. I know it’ll never happen. Nope. Never. Not gay. I won’t let it happen. I know I can fight it off. I know I can. I believe.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
MR sure lets meet later and talk about your ignorance and why you insist on calling someone Satan or a Satan Worshiper?
July 1st, 2008 at 4:02 pm
99 is not me. It’s MR. He thinks he’s going to turn me over, but he’s not. I’m too strong. I’ll never cave in. I’m straight, and I like the ladies. And, the ladies like me, too. All I have to do is just keep thinking about the two or three girls that have liked me in my life, and it’ll sort of wash out, you know, my paranoia. I know I’m not gay. It’s absurd. Really.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Welcome Back Jerry…
I believe the next 3 months will be very interesting in Raiderland. The usual training camp hype, but preseason games had better be explosive or I wouldn’t be surprised in Al Davis doesn’t make a change at Head Coach. If preseason is flat and the Raiders start 0-3, enter interim head coach Loften…. I like Kiffen, but his hands, like all Raiders coaches are always tied. Davis just keeps the cycle going…and the losses mount….
July 1st, 2008 at 4:05 pm
666 I think we have alot to talk about.
Oakglenn’s dad is coming over and I think you might really like him. He is very gentle soul.
Think about it.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Jerry is just a rumor monger, MVTA Raider. Don’t pay attention to him. The guy MaddenRaiderSlapper knows his stuff, and he says we’re going 15-1. That’s all you need to know.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:05 pm
It would take a pretty feeble minded and insecure person to be so intimidated by a simple number.
The simple fact is that the name I like was taken so I simply added a number to it so I could still be SilverNblack.
There are no religious reasons involved in the choice. But I like how mentally weak you are and you show it in your writing.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Because that’s what Al Davis drafts, because at this point in his life he unable to personally evaluate talent, so he drafts hype, 40 times.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:06 pm
MR, you can sit there and talk about gay stuff all you want. We don’t swing that way, around here. I’m way too strong to ever cave into that urge. So take it somewhere else.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Is Al frustrated or questioning his signings of Walker and maybe others? Maybe. Would Al express this frustration to a reporter from Yahoo Sports? No.
Guys like Adam S love to lump together opinions, predictions, rumors, facts, and speculation all together and let readers try to figure out what is what. The moves made this off-season are many and we’ll see what the results are on the field.
It Appears
Al said Keep Rob Ryan but change the D from a Cover 0 scheme. (per several players)
Pay Kelley like he’s the best DT in the NFL
Pay Javon Walker like he’s actually a top-notch WR.
Trade (sort of) Sims for Harris
Draft a RB and not a D Lineman
Sign the top S FA and get a top CB but get nothing better than a C+ level player for the pourus front 7.
Now, the way to stop the rumor mongering is to use these moves and actually WIN. The team Al has fielded the last five years deserves to be ridiculed. As a Raiders fan I hope Al and Kiffin find a way to shut up the naysayers starting on Monday night against Denver.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Mockery is a form of flattery and I am flattered by the several posts with people using my name.
Thank you fans I do adore you!!
July 1st, 2008 at 4:08 pm
COW how the hell have you been!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 4:08 pm
104 is not me. Jerry, can we do something about this? It’s bad enough you’re a rumor monger, but now you’re letting people post under my name, too. MR is gay and he’s hitting on people. That makes me uncomfortable. Makes my mouth water. Anyway, can you make him leave? Ban his IP, or something? Thank you.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Mockery is a form of flattery and I am flattered by the several posts with people using my name.
Thank you fans I do adore you!!
July 1st, 2008 at 4:11 pm
110
106
103
100
99
98
96
95
93 are all my fans and love me so much they mock me!!
But anyone with half a brain could easily see the weak vocabulary and poor syntax is that of a simpleton and not me.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Welcome back Jerry, Im still sorry for your loss, my dad is dying as I type, as impossable as it seems, Iknow how you feel.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
I’m sorry 666.
Sometimes I just miss Gruden so much I get a little abusive.
Just admit you miss him too.
Do you still want to come over?
July 1st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
112 is my fan and loves me so much he mocks me!!
But anyone with half a brain could easily see the weak vocabulary and poor syntax is that of a simpleton and not me.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
now there are 4 or 5 of me!
This RULES!!!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 4:19 pm
about caught up.Alltell put a block on my laptop 4 some reason.Oh well thats all cleared up.MR you call it meddleing I call it giving advice,of course ADs underlings dont allways listen.But b4 you pounce:there is PLENTY OF BLAME 2 AROUND 4 our abominal record.Believe me,Im just as pissed-off as you,ADs 2 blame,Callahns 2 blame,Turner Shell,THE DAMN OFFICIALS,hell Im 2 blame,I should have supported the team more.SO MR lets stop trying 2 put the blame on 1 persons plate,because everyones 2 blame.All TOGRTHER NOW NATION GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 4:19 pm
HEY JERRY!!!! We sure missed you bro!! Welcome back and I did have your healing in my prayers like I said I would. Your the best man and Dakota… I’ll see your crazy azz in 3 weeks bro!! I AM OUT but I AM ALWAYS IN!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Chris Henry??????!!!!!!!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I understand there’s plenty of blame to throw around, 4evaRaider. But who deserves the most blame? What one person is more responsible than anyone else for us being 19-61 over the past 5 years?
July 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
its good to see you back in the saddle jerry.
just remember, as you ride along the bumpy trail of life, the bright star in the sky will guide you home.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
MR post 54 what you tkink Al DAVIS is afraid 2 pay Kiffin extra money 2 fire him???? He gave Walker 16 million,Hall 24,who knows how much more???AD may be afraid of something but paying money isnt 1 of them.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
MR..how goes the girl safari..not to good..your on the computer all the time..do you have eye problems..do you know the difference between men and woman..man..you need help..i pity your mom and da..they mumble under their breath.. we created a fool.. my gut tells me you will be on late tonight..poor soul very sad life you have..im back to college in 3 weeks..lets talk again..i want to leave you with some hope and knowhow on your ability to pull chicks..leave the politics alone..bummer ..brings people down..life MR..late
July 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
MR post5 123;fat-azz siragusa
July 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Welcome back Jerry!
You know, the draft where they got Mario Henderson, wasn’t the same draft where the 2nd round pick, a DE, didn’t even make the team? Hard to imporve as a team when your 2nd & 3rd round picks don’t even make the team.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Raider Dave,we traded our 3rd round pick in 2007 4 Henderson
July 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Raider Dave – I agree Kiffin’s draft $ucked.
Thank God Al locked him in the bathroom for this year’s draft.
Just Win Baby.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
You wanna-be Raider Fans are a joke. Why dont you all take your stupid (non-Raider talk)chit-chat to MySpace or post something worth talking about. I come here for some positive feed-back about the team I love most and all I get is your IGNORANT BRAIN-FARTS. Don’t you people have anything else better to do. My Heart is Oakland. I need a good season this year. Come on Raiders lets prove these Poo$$ies wrong, Yeah that goes for all you heart-less Wanna-Be raider fans too. WATCH OUT NFL HERE COMES THE SILVER AND BLACK AT THEIR FINEST LIKE IT SHOULD BE. Damn I feel good about this season. I couldn’t say that last year. OaktownRaider4Life. For all you PS3 Madden FANATICS come get wooped by WhettoFromDaBay(Madden Web Name) Raiders all day!!!! I Love You Al Davis, Stay Strong for the team we need more than ever.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Dudley’s problems were never about passion. His problems were with his STONE COLD hands. He couldn’t catch a football worth a $*@#! . He was to used to the round ball.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Gotta admit, though, as you say, training camp isn’t here yet, and yet it is, if a player isn’t aggressive and passionate in THIS Sport, like the Dud ‘dud’ ley guy, don’t bring ‘em on-board. The RAIDERS, in none of their LINES especially, need a wimpy, non-focused, walk all over performer, as either people of less talent or no talent have caused some and much of the offensive problems of the past, don’t lets’ have it continue.
Shop around, anythings’ better than nothing at all. Watch the ‘waiver,cut wire’, and don’t just ‘hang onto a 3rd rounder’ with these sorts of ‘blatantly obvious performance problems’. Putting the pads on aren’t going to change anyone, though if he does have ‘exceptional talent for the game and position’ maybe he’ll be one of those sorts of individuals whom’ll get ‘good and mad, angry’ if you will, at all those being so critical and begin playing with the ALZADO CHIP ON HIS SHOULDER, and become what he needs to be.
We have NO MORE TIME or PATIENCE for mediocraty’ from the RAIDERS on their line or otherwise.
They REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY DO have unique talent on the team, that can ‘turn this around beginning week one with Denver’ to make a playoff appearance, but only IF the Lines play up to be supportative of the QB, the RBs’, he WRs’, the LBs’ and DBs’…what else is there, where ELSE is the PROBLEM!!!!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Jerry,
Welcome back bror, glad to have you.
I don’t get why people are so worried about Henderson. What little I saw of him at FSU, and every report I read, every exhibition snap he played, it was OBVIOUS had had a LOT of work to do. Very, very green. He looks to me like a guy who is thinking hard out there, which makes it hard to play physically or with passion. That thing with the feet is really an issue. I’d guess he’s not ready this year.
What mystifies me about this entire discussion is the absent name of Paul McQuistan. Mulet guy sure seemed to me like he played far better at RT than Green did. Far more physical in the running game, better at firing out and engaging the LEs in pass blocking. With the not terribly physical Carlisle at RG, McQuistan really seemed to bring something.
Jerry, somebody, anybody — can you explain with some bit of empiricism why McQuistan seems to be out of the equation?
Peace.
July 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Jerry welcome back. Thx for all the great work.
July 1st, 2008 at 5:46 pm
We will not know the o-line depth chart until camp is underway.
July 1st, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Jerry -
Good to have you back. Sorry for your loss.
July 1st, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Post 97 knows whats up. FSU players sucks arse!!! We are in trobule in pass protection this year no doubt
July 1st, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Jerry,
How can a 80 yr old man be the organizational draft guru? Could you ask Mike Taylor please?
July 1st, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Even tho I think they have McQ slated as a BU guard, RIP is right. he acquitted himself quite well and continued to improve over the course of his stint at RT last year. Why not start him there this year?
July 1st, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Raiders will win the west if the LT position is solid but Harris is garbage!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Good to have you back, Jerry.
July 1st, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Jmac my condolences but you still suck though
July 1st, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Jerry, nice to have you back!
July 1st, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Just admit you guys miss Gruden prowling the sidelines.
Those were the days when my heart filled with pride to call myself a Raiders fan.
Come back Grudy.
July 1st, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Jerry, welcome back. I admire for even making this post in a well-written, well-structured piece.
On Javon Walker, sounds to me like he got robbed trying to make a drug buy. Or trying to score some babe. But how many times do you get in a car with a stranger if he’s gonna get you a babe? You might get in a car without someone who tells you he knows where to score some weed or coke though.
Hope I’m wrong but it’s the only plausible speculation that fit the facts.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Great to have you back. Wasn’t the same without you. Sapp may have a knack for the overstatement, I believe what he says to be true. Stuff does happen with this team that shouldn’t go on in sports. Inmates running the asylum. The looniest of all wearing a jogging suit and overpaying mediocre players might be the whole problem.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:14 pm
I figure this…..the LT and RT positions are just too unknown at this point. There is every reason that indicates it. Harris sucks, Henderson is just mysterious in itself, Green are atrocious and Mullet dude is cool but not a world beater by any stretch but he is better than a trash a$$ tackle. I suppose the best will win in camp and thus lose it at some point in the season.
I’m on record on a few sites saying just let it be Henderson and Mullet dude. Harris is hopeless! Everyone go to youtube type his damn name in and watch the feature. We already seen the no pass protection skills by Green…… it will not workout for that guy at all being a starter for us. Let the young guys all learn together. This is how you not only build a championship team its how you build a dynasty. The drafted guys are usually the biggest part of the entire equation.
We got a young QB and RB eith some enormous measureables. Now we will see if it transfers on the field but wait……….we also got a young tight end that is good for once! The WR spot is questionable but cannot be worse than last season. The o-line has the steepest hill to come but if the Raiders find the right mesh on the line we might see an Al dynasty before he leaves the planet. People think I’m crazy for saying this but everyone has slept on the Raiders moves.
I mean think logically about it if you have been down with Raiders for a long time. Name the last time this much talent was on the team. I wondering how many years you have to go back to see it. Honestly when was the last time this franchise had a young franchise QB and young franchise RB? The Raiders took the best player two years in a damn row. Al has got a plan and it will blow up in the media punk face. In november the two story lines we will be hearing are…..”How Kiffin is doing the unthinkable”..and..”Why the game never passed by Al Davis”….
It’s on Raider people this season and from now on. I feel we have a legit shot to make the playoffs because the AFC West is more comfortable in 08 and the schedule dates favor the Raiders. A 3-1 start is what I believe the team will have going into the bye week. We get three division games early in the season. That makes us battle tested heading towards playing 3 garbage AFC foes and 3 interconferce games(two in Oakland…back to back)before the season gets very difficult to win. After that we got 3 straight division games which will ultimately decide if we make the playoffs or not………… This schedule is so to our advatange it’s sickening. There isn’t one game we have to play in now except for a Denver team we played earlier inthe season. I like that Buffalo and god damn Baltimore aren’t in cold season. We will be fine this season…even with some sorry excuse for players.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Hi,
I am new here…what is the subject?
Are all of you Liberals?
July 1st, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Holy crapp…the Beard is an LA Clipper…how ironic!
July 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Or should I say…holy crap!
July 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Dogg where are you? Your team picked Don N. over the Beard!
WTF?
July 1st, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Mike Lombardi is the man that ruined the Raiders since the Superbowl and he is out of the NFL for that very reason.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Dakota this is not an NBA blog.
STFU!
Go Raiders.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Al Davis is responsible for the Raiders…he ruined us…hopefully he will fix us…but I am not holding my breath.
I am afraid that Kiffin is pretty much gone after next year unless he goes 9-7 or better…
July 1st, 2008 at 7:41 pm
MR your a closet Tampa fan, you should go root for them but you are afraid the Raiders will start winning again so you hang around incase you need to jump on the badwagon this year.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:44 pm
MR is a fraud, a liar, and a pathetic 44 year old living in his mother’s basement…
I only talk to him because I feel sorry for him.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:46 pm
The Raiders aren’t the Raiders without Chuckie.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Your mom’s basement is not a basement without you MR.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Here is a little lesson about your boy Obama.
http://gunowners.org/pres08/obama.htm
July 1st, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Gruden gets credit for blowing the big games for the Raiders, thankfully is he gone now.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:52 pm
MR, I hope your mom is a good cook at least…what else do you have to live for???
July 1st, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Okay, I will check in later to see the meltdown.
Guitar Hero III on PS3 is calling.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:56 pm
MR needs a Dick Cheney doll to go along with his Barack Obama one.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Chuckie had stylle. Chuckie had flair. He looked at me once. It was the single greatest moment of my life. There will never another coach like Chuckie.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:58 pm
He will be 1-2 vs the Raiders at the end of this season.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Everyone can feel the energy, its going to be a great season and a good team for the next few years. You got to make a choice MR sooner or later, riding the fence won’t get it done. You are either commited as a fan or not, you worry about things you cannot control. If you are afraid of rooting for a team becaue they have been loosing then find another team and quit bitching.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Johnny Retard When the 1 out of the 1-2 is the SUPERBOWL, I wouldn’t brag about it.
Come back Chuckie.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:09 pm
When you have been to 5 Superbowls and won 3, I can brag all I want.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:11 pm
All under Davis, Gruden will never even come close to matching it. Go root for Tampa or are you too cowardly to take a side and stick with it?
July 1st, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Jerry – Henderson is truly a big question mark in my book (heck almost that whole line is). However, I’m not going to read too deep into that “passion” remark of Kiffins. I can’t say whether or not it was taken out of context – that is, if he really meant Mario had no desire for the game or was he referring back to the physical aspects of Mario’s play that ‘we need to “improve” upon’. I can’t say. Only Kiffin, Cable and Knapp can.
Either way, a Super Mario would be a Godsend but I’m not holding out too much hope. A lot can change in one year and lights do go off; but from what I remember of him from last preseason, the boy was Super Green – too green as a matter of fact. He has a lot of potential but needs a lot of work.
If Mario ends up resembling a dominate or just above average Tackle that’ll catapult this offense 2 years ahead of itself (and I know we all want it now). If the sucks – nothing changes – we’ll just be stagnant and have an eye out for better Tackles.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:15 pm
SilverNBlack666, at least you got my hyperlink right. Oakglenn always screws up and leaves “Raiders.com” when posting under my name. You’re smarter than him. Then again, that isn’t hard to be. Continue cloning me. You’re doing fine. You’re about a 7 out of 10 on the cloning effectiveness meter.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Anyone who doesn’t wish we had Gruden back considering the last 5 years obviously doesn’t care about winning. I’d take Gruden back 10 times out of 10, and most Raider fans probably would.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:21 pm
SilverNBlack666 dreads bringing back those winning ways. It’s no fun. Winning does get boring. But those of us fans with an ounce of dignity actually would prefer it.
SnB, you’re just not cool enough to be a devil worshiper. So what’s with the 666? You’re just a KISS fan, aren’t you? Do you dress up for the concerts? What a dork. You’re divorced, aren’t you? If you aren’t, you will be soon.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Johnny Rebel, you’re right. I’ve got to make a choice, so I’ll make one. I’m giving up on Al Davis. If we win, I’ll give Kiffin the credit. There. The choice is made. I’m no longer riding the fence regarding Al Davis.
Go Raiders!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Gruden would have taken last year’s Raiders to the SuperBowl. He could turn a grown man to stone with a LOOK. You can’t teach that kind of charisma.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Jerry thank you … thank you … thank you… everything gets better with time
July 1st, 2008 at 8:36 pm
The last five years of my life have been wasted rooting for the Raiders without Chuckie. Seeing Chuckie in Tampa colors is a pain that gets worse every day. If you guys had any guts you’d admit you feel the same way.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:37 pm
LMN
No Red Bulls lately this is the recover period. Just victory smoken for the good month!
July 1st, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Just admit it would be a rush to watch Gruden roam the Raiders again. Gruden is the biggest star to ever wear the Silver and Black. The franchise will never recover. Deep down you all know it’s true.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:50 pm
MR Says:
July 1st, 2008 at 8:36 pm
The last five years of my life have been wasted rooting for the Raiders without Chuckie. Seeing Chuckie in Tampa colors is a pain that gets worse every day. If you guys had any guts you’d admit you feel the same way.
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drinking again???
chuckie ain’t built no dynasty down here…
in fact… his record is pretty ordinary…
oh… let me help you with your response…
“well, ‘ordinary’ would be a huge improvement over the 19-61 nightmare that i, personally, have suffered for the past five, count ‘em, five, years…
“and oh, did i mention 9-11″…
July 1st, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Anybody who wants to post under someone else’s name, I’m just retarded enough to think it’s the real person, and I’ll even respond to it.
July 1st, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Every time that piece of mail shows up that says I won 10 million dollars, I always fall for it. Always call a couple of relatives to announce it. The first two will just laugh at me but usually the third or fourth will let me in on the fact that I didn’t win anything. Hey, I’m from Florida. Give me a break. So please, people, stop posting under other peoples’ names, because I can’t tell the difference.
July 1st, 2008 at 9:26 pm
MR, how’s my ass taste? Ha ha!! Yes!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 9:29 pm
MaddenRaider, I’m sorry I lied yesterday. Yes, at first I tried to say that Sapp was referring to Turner and Shell, then in the same breath I said that Sapp was lying. I figured most people in here would be stupid enough to buy it all. Usually, they are. But you were here, MR, and you called me on it. Big props to you.
July 1st, 2008 at 9:32 pm
MR wtf is up i saw that im a choker fan thing .. dude not cool @ all ….
July 1st, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Gruden would’ve kept Moss happy and he wouldn’t have wasted Russell’s rookie year. We would’ve won another 3 SuperBowls by now. You never know, Billy Martin returned to the Yankees several times. I still hold out hope for a Chucky return to Oakland. Al can’t live forever.
July 1st, 2008 at 9:51 pm
MR, Gruden was the best coach we’ve had since Madden. I hope he comes back, too. But Kiffin’s close to him. Anyone who runs the team and just ignores Al’s nonsense is ok with me.
July 1st, 2008 at 10:00 pm
I know you want him back Oakglenn. We all do. Props to you for being man enough to admit it. Don’t worry. He’ll be back. He just has to. It’s just not the same without him. It’s like the all the air went out of the baloon the day Chuckie left Oakland. We need Chuckie. I like Lane but he just doesn’t have that steely glint in his eye like Gruden did. He could make a grown man cry with one look. That’s what I call talent.
July 1st, 2008 at 10:05 pm
MR..do you have that crystal ball visionary karma thing goin..you know how everything turns out..if your so good at knowing all..why dont you see yourself as a liar and hater..why cant you change..does that crystal ball only work in your favor..or against what other may say..you should try to ask the crystal ball why you are a loser on this blog..nite and day always..and why you cant pull chicks..most hate you..i feel very sorry for you..have a great work shift tonite..i enjoy you remarks in the mornin..
July 1st, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Great to have you back Jerry!
July 1st, 2008 at 10:14 pm
MR Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 11:52 am
# BART Bridge Balla Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 11:47 am
MR isn’t a racist, he hates everybody.
………
You know? I can agree with that. I don’t hate everyone, literally, but I do hate most people. I believe the human race has peaked and is on it’s way down the sewer, and there’s absolutely no stopping it. So, yeh, I’ll take that label.
MR Says:
June 28th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Hey, about the bet with Dakota. I lied to him. Big deal. I respect the respectable. Dakota? Come on. I’m here. Deal with me, ladies.
..
Enuff said, also a gutless man
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any more truthful tidbits you have to explain..any time is the right time..so you lied to dakota…do you lie to your mom an dad..i bet you have lied all of your life..i guess you could be called a thug..just bringin up the points you have been preachy about recently..
July 1st, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Mr..looks like you left..i will leave and you will come back and say i cant hack with you..no prob..i will be back manana..im off to a party..chicks may be there..in your honor i will go easy on them..you sensative dude you..no pullin here..late
July 1st, 2008 at 10:24 pm
No pullin here either. Not since Chuckie left town. I’m relly drunk.
July 1st, 2008 at 10:25 pm
MR why are you posting as me again??
July 1st, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Becase you get mad.
July 1st, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Good to have you back JMac.
July 1st, 2008 at 10:41 pm
But mainly because I let men pound my 5hole
July 1st, 2008 at 10:44 pm
194 is not me. Every one knows I’m a top. Your dad knows, Oakglenn.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:19 pm
MaddenRaider, as much as I don’t like you, we’re agreed on Gruden. I really do miss him, too. I see shades of him in Kiffin, though. Like Gruden, Kiffin knows what it takes to win and thumbs his nose at crazy Al.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:21 pm
196 is not me!!! Dammit, Jerry, what can we do about this? This isn’t fair, Jerry. People are posting under my name. I want action to be taken, at once. I’m sick and tired of this, so sick and tired of it I might actually consider leaving this blog.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Who wants to talk football? Just ignore the trolls, everyone.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:22 pm
MaddenRaider, how’s my ass taste? Ha ha. Yes!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 11:23 pm
I pull chicks!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Oakglenn your ass tastes terrible.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Sorry Oakglenn. I’m realy drunk. I know you miss him, but I REALLY miss him. If you know what I mean. I’m sorry I said that your dad is gay. I love you man. I spend more time talking to you than I do my own kids. It was diffrent when Chucky was in town. I was different.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:41 pm
If Ricky DUDley had so much passion for basketball, why didn’t he play in the NBA instead of slogging through the NFL like the first round BUST that he was? What a wasted draft pick.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:46 pm
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July 1st, 2008 at 11:48 pm
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July 1st, 2008 at 11:52 pm
But don’t come to Raiderfans.net if you’re black. I hate pinche mayates. And I will have Candygirl ban you if you try to stick up for blacks. Tu sabes? She’s Mexican and she hates chongos too. Only Mexicans and whites, please. Asians too, but only because you’re smart. Just no blacks.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Or Rob Ryan getting fired??
July 1st, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Just so everyone here knows, I swing both ways, too. So come to Raiderfans.net and if you’re, you know, curious, send me your email. In this regard, I’ll take blacks, too. Because, well, I know it’s not a myth, know what I’m saying? I like you chongos in the sack. I just hate you politically. All your crying about slavery whaa whaa. But I’ll take your giant black chorizo. Come to Raiderfans.net and give me a pm. We’ll chat.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Rob Ryan is not hot at all.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:57 pm
I thought this was a football blog, specifically a Raiders blog. What does race have to do with anything?
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:03 am
Tyson, cut it out, ok? We’re a reputable site. I talked to you about the thing with black people. We have to be more subtle about it. We can’t talk about it out loud, ok?
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 am
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July 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 am
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July 2nd, 2008 at 12:08 am
CC me, calm down, sweetie. And, I’ve had a piece of that pie. Let’s just say I needed penicillin the next day. CC Me is nice to hang out with but put a sock on the pickle if you go any further. Fair warning. Praise the lord and go Raiders. Visit us at Raiderfans.net.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:12 am
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July 2nd, 2008 at 12:13 am
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July 2nd, 2008 at 12:16 am
Sorry Mods. I drank way too much tonight. Please be so kind to delete all of my posts. Especially the post where I apoligize too Oakglenn. I hate Oakglenn. i hate everyone. The human race has peaked with Chuckie and we are now circling the drain.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:24 am
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July 2nd, 2008 at 12:32 am
Yep, RF.net likes to rag on people after they’re gone, and when they can’t fight back. Got that hall of shame folder. They should let sleeping dogs lie. It’s not like people can’t just rag on them at other sites, like this one.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:32 am
Come on Mods! What do I have to say to get deleted around here. This the drunkest I’ve ever been in my whole life. I didn’t drink that much when Chuckie was still town. I didn’t have to.
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:21 am
Welcome back Jerry.
AL Davis having second thoughts? How about 24/7?
Al Davis calling the sideline? Is anyone suprised by that? I mean this is Al we’re talking about. There is nothing new in Cole’s article. He’s just rehashing the obvious. Couldn’t you say the same about a whole boatload of owners?
Sapp is great. but he says that kind of stuff about a lot of folks-including Jon Gruden. Sometimes he makes great comments and sometimes it’s just stuff that goes straight through both ears.
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:44 am
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July 2nd, 2008 at 3:13 am
At work, wuts up nation. I get tired of this whole Gruden crap, he won against a team he helped build and an offense he designed. He would have had to be a retard not to win that game in dominating fashion. If that Raider team would have played anyone else in that game in would have been a rout. If it wasn’t for Jon Grudens crappy drafting we would be in a much better position right now. For all his coaching prowess he has a serious lack for spottig talent. That explains why he has 5 Qb’s on his roster…..though Josh Johnson will be a star IMO.
Mr, how can u give Kiffin credit for winning and at the same time place the blame on al for losing??? Al built that team that went to the superbowl, all the clues are there. We had a team full of journeymen, castoffs, and reclaimation projects.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:30 am
I just read an article that said we would go 3-13 and finish last in the AFC west. If that is not biased media hating I don’t know what is. With all of the talent that we have on this team combined with a weak division and easy schedule we should be no lower than a .500 team.
On the Javon Walker incident. Whoever suggested drugs is correct IMO and whoever suggetsed coke and weed are not at all street smart. When u deal coke or weed 99% of time u are strapped or with someone that is strapped due to the turf wars. I’ve had homeboys that got shot and shoot at people because they were in the wrong territory trying to make a deal. Its difficult to beleive that Javon, even in his impaired state, would be dumb enough to forget this especially when he was wearing 100k in bling. He was probably trying to get some x.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 am
This is the first known mention of Walker and drugs: http://mvn.com/nfl-raiders/2008/06/27/most-of-the-truth-comes-out-about-the-javon-walker-story/
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:00 am
Good Morning NATION,Fits the crack head M.O.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:18 am
been a while since i’ve been on this blog n i’m dissapointed that some of the garbage is still here. Gruden’s been n gone. Forget him. he had his chance n wanted out. We dont do re-treads. Still some mighty whites spewing their filth around here too. Ignorant f#@%s.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:41 am
Severeraider
X never thought of that but it makes alot of sence Jovan could have stayed in the O if he wanted to thizz tripple stack stlye…
4eva sup bro I still cant sleep this sucks I gotta go to work in a couple of hours…
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:47 am
you guys gotta read this…. LMAO
http://www.yahoo.com/s/909973
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:50 am
That’s what I’m saying….Javon was in front of his hotel with a bad breezy getting ready to smash, I find it hard to believe that he would turn down a piece of a$$ to get faded. If I were headed to vegas and getting ready to party and I smoked, I would bring some of that california sticky from the yay. I heard that vegas weed was like smokin straight dried grass and hay. I don’t smoke so it don’t matter to me.
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:07 am
Real talk…..the guy obviously kan’t take a punch for nothin and I already know how dudes get down in the yay so he betta have a bodyguard or an entourage wit him at all times. My homeboy live up there and he told me that they just as grimey as los skandolous. They don’t call it killa kali for nothin.
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:27 am
Hey 408 Brother ,Good 2 hear youre word!!!How did you like dem Fosters,the more you drink em the more you like em.Work still slow 4 me but Im still hangin on GO RAIDERS
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:32 am
If I may be permitted to interrupt all the talk about politics, race, religion, drugs, etc., does anyone know a site where I can find a sound byte of “there are 31 teams in the NFL………..and then there are the Oakland Raiders”..classic……my money says if anyone can find this, its Dakota
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:36 am
Raiderrave,Dakota can find anything
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:42 am
4eva fosters were cool pluss they were on sale… (=
check out the link on #229
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:49 am
408 sounds like a bunch of squakin squaws.Fosters here is $10.00 a 12 pack 4 12 oz cans.Its hardly ever on sale.American beer is 2 sweet 4 me,except mick lite or coors lite out of a keg only
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:52 am
Not you 408 :kc fans sound like squawkin squaws sorry 2 you if it didnt look right,BRO!!!
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:04 am
why, who and what? lite beer?!!? explain it…
if you go up in thing that are light you shouldn’t drink beer – period! all the taste is hidden in what has been carved away to make it LITE…
Bwadr! lite beer is wuzzy guys who like purple teams!
Morning Nation!
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:12 am
408 where are you
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:16 am
Javon was targeted for the robbery…..look at the facts it makes perfect sense.
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:16 am
I guess Im not perfect,LMN,I should have said its been years Since I had a lite beer.But I cant lie,2 this day I would drink COORS LITE out of the KEG RIGHT NOW!!!
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:23 am
“Instead of seeing Henderson take a quantum leap after his year of learning, there have been more red flags than in the parking lot at Arrowhead Stadium.”
GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK JERRY
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:23 am
4eva…
well I know you have had lite beers in the states for tons of years, we have had alcohol light beers, but now we got this calorie light beer, and I’m asking myself, if you buy this you shouldn’t even drink! =)
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:27 am
Severeraider – if he wasn’t already on E when he got in the car. That junk will make u do some dumb $h!t, especially if u are around people u can’t trust.
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:33 am
4eva…
you said Denver didn’t have any RB’s
Najeh Davenport, Shaun Alexander, Travis Henry, Cedric Benson, and Kevin Jones are still on the market, and for one year these guys are pretty good.
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:33 am
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July 2nd, 2008 at 6:38 am
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I wouldn’t be surprised if he had popped some pills at the club. He was prolly all hopped up on goofballs when he got in the car because even when ur drunk ur not stupid…I heard e makes u do some far out stuff.
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:04 am
LMN,we all know why Denmark is the happiest place on earth;you guys drink manly beer (lol)!!!In my youth I climbed and repelled many mountians,lite beer was 4 me didnt fill you up on the way up.Last ten years or so,its been all FOSTERS,but I stand by my statement if there was ever a keg of the silver bullet I would drink like fish!!!
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:06 am
Just found out i have a virus on my laptop talk to you all later RAIDER ON
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:12 am
4eva…
hahaha Manly beer =)
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:18 am
Welcome back Jerry.
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:20 am
Now that Sapp’s retired he’s all about Oakland was torture the whole time he played here,it was a black hole from which nothing good will ever come.But he sure didn’t have a problem cashing Al Davis’ big fat checks the last five years, did he? No, sir. It’s now all about how awesome Tampa is/was. If he and Dungy had stayed they would’ve been a dynasty and all this crap. Marginalizing Gruden,and deifying Tony Dungy.Then why didn’t he stay in Tampa? Or try to sign with the Colts.
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:25 am
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July 2nd, 2008 at 8:15 am
Glad to have you back mate.
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:22 am
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July 2nd, 2008 at 6:12 am
408 where are you
@ work now another 4 hour sleep night aaaaaaaaaaaaaa… I think I might have to move up 2 narcos
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:45 am
F**k Sapp, F**k Baron Davis, F**k Adam Sniffer, F**k Jason Cole. Let’s all go to Arrowhead and stand for the whole game.
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:48 am
4life
Im In but we all gotta where home jearseys
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 am
408–All Black. Nothing but Black!!! Stand the entire game. Make Arrowhead a sea of black. Oh and F**k the Chiefs and their sitting fans. Chiefs officials will be setting up a system so they can text them about fans who are standing or “unruley”. HAHAHA what a bunch of hillbilly morons.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:23 am
Thanks for update, Jerry. Good to have you back.
Offensive tackle is the Raiders weakest position on the team and a cause for much concern. Everyone knows skill players can’t do anything without a good offensive line. I am also worried about the defensive line. There isn’t much depth in either of the trenches and those are foundations of the football team. At least Tommy Kelly apparently isn’t the highest paid DT in the league anymore. No offense to him, but that seems to be a little much. Forget the injury, was he really the best DT in the league before he got hurt? Maybe he was, it just seems like he would have been making a bigger impact if he was.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 am
Raiderrave Says:
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:32 am
If I may be permitted to interrupt all the talk about politics, race, religion, drugs, etc., does anyone know a site where I can find a sound byte of “there are 31 teams in the NFL………..and then there are the Oakland Raiders”..classic……my money says if anyone can find this, its Dakota
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Are you sure the line isn’t…”There are 27 teams in the NFL, and then there are the Pittsburg Steelers.” ???
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 am
Welcome back Jerry
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:04 am
Dogg,
Sorry about Beard.
Maybe you will pick up Gilbert to assuage the pain???
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:16 am
Gilbert is gonna sign with Wash for $127 mil for 6 yrs. Warriors offered 100mil for 5 yrs.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 am
Ouch…sorry Dogg.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:24 am
Dakota -
The Beard claims he still wants to play for the W’s. He is an LA guy so I wouldn’t be suprised to see him in the Purple & Gold, although Clipper Red & Blue seems more likely. Hate to see him go, but Ellis is primed to be the guy. The W’s need a big man more than they need the Beard, as much as it pains me to see him go.
Is Arenas worth over $100 million with a balky knee? He’ll stay in Washington anyway, they are offering him more $ than the W’s. With that being said I would welcome Agent Zero back with open arms, I just don’t see it happening.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:38 am
From what I’ve heard, Baron wants to be closer to his Grandma who lives in Compton, to be near her in her later years. He tried to buy her a house in a nicer area but she refused. So he upgraded her place instead, call it Pimp My Grandma’s Pad!
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:51 am
post #9. i agree w/dakota. lakers in 5.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:59 am
Jim,
Glad to see you are not the madman they were after in Ill and Mo…I saw the connection to the states you have recently moved through, and I thought….hmmm, maybe Jim is the guy they are after!
Glad I was wrong.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 am
Nice to hear from you Jerry..
Dogg, you too.
I´d say throw Henderson to the wolves in the pre-season, it´s not like old Cornell Green needs a lot of reps anyway. Of course, we should put him in after Russell sits.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 am
Dakota, in reference to #260, originally that was the quote, but, when I ventured out to Oakland a few years back to see the Jets beat the Raiders(2003?) as the Raiders came on the field, the announcement on the jumbotron said “there are 31 teams…..” havent been back so dont know if they still do that or not.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:07 am
New post.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:07 am
caught the wrong man!!!!!! they usually do. by the way, i posted an incorrect episode i had last night on last blog. i was rushed to er because i an allergic reaction. throat completely closed and my face looked like will smith (hitch). they loaded me benedryl and other fine medicines. i thought it was strawberries because i’m allergic to tree nuts and all fruits but it was SOY MILK! Anyway, i was on the table and i said, “i can’t make dakota this happy!!!” haahaha I also thought, “i need to purchase those final 4 tickets (women’s bb) right away. I don’t want to sound too stupid (too late, i k now) but i honestly believe my dad was there (passed away). i think he fought for me because i haven’t purchased the tickets for my mom yet! haha i’m also asthmatic so they unloaded steriods in me. i think i’m not allowed to play in my softball league now!
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 am
notice how i’m much more mellow
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 am
Dakota was right. He said Lakers in 5. But he meant next year. I said 6 games but meant next year!!! lol
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:23 am
ex:
Nice! BUt you need some one physical. there as smooth as silk but as soft as chocolate ice cream. Except your Euros… they’re as soft as vanila ice cream with only milk!
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Welcome back Jerry.
Wow, how many beat writers would come back from a tough time off and dig in on reports from Rickey Dudley’s old basketball coaches to produce a thorough analysis of a second-string offensive lineman. In early July no less!
I can’t imagine there’s another NFL team with a blog as thorough or insightful as this one.
Thanks JM.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:08 pm
I have toadmiit I have almost 7-years clean. I used to
be a tweeker myself, he is not doing meth. walker would not smoke cannabis{stays in your system up to
30-35 days depending on your metabolism and body
fat. walker was either buying coke,crack or
prescrip drugs. it takes a recovering tweeker
to see a crakhead. he was gonna gets some dope and
phornacate with one or all the woman in his
group I know I would if I was an addict in this
situation. I don’t care just be ready to score
td’s this season. what walker does in his own time
is his bussiness the trick is don’t get caught
or be stupid like he did.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:56 pm
It is always tough to get back to work after you suffer a loss. Welcome back Jerry, and was a very good blog today.
Stay upbeat!
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