Training camp, Day 4 (P.M. practice)


Quick hits from Sunday night’s Raiders practice:

— Tackle Mark Wilson, a practice squad player signed to the active roster following the season, sustained a left leg injury, was taken off the field on a cart, and was sent to the hospital for X-rays.

— Left tackle Kwame Harris (lower back) returned to practice after missing the previous two sessions. He moved well and at one point fared well in a pass blocking opportunity against Kalimba Edwards.

— For the first time, no offensive or defensive lineman had to run laps for committing a false start or jumping offsides.

— Wide receiver Ronald Curry and center Jake Grove took the workout off, as scheduled. John Wade got the majority of the snaps with the first team offense in Grove’s absence. Defensive end Fred Wakefield, battling a stomach ailment, did not practice after practicing in the morning session. Safety Greg Wesley (back spasms), who returned to practice in the morning, missed the evening session. Grant Irons is still out with a hamstring pull.

— Al Davis made his first appearance at practice, watching from a golf cart between the two fields.

— During kickoff drills early in practice, running back Darren McFadden was deep and running kickoffs hard up the middle. Kiffin mentioned McFadden as a possibility for return duty on occasion.

Interesting McFadden would get his most work in that area in a practice Davis attended. Whether or not McFadden returns kickoffs will almost certainly be a decision made at the top. Davis resisted the idea of having Charles Woodson play offense or return punts, although part of that probably had to do with Woodson’s history of nagging injuries.

— Expect McFadden to be utilized only in crucial situations, in games where the Raiders need a strike at the end of a half or game, or when they are struggling on offense and need a momentum switch. To use him at all in that role in the preseason would be a questionable use of a major investment.

— McFadden had a much better practice catching the ball out of backfield than he did in the earlier session, when Kiffin expressed concern over his “hand placement.” Guess he figured out they had to be somewhere near the ball.

— Other players returning kickoffs were cornerback Chris Johnson, wide receiver Jonathan Holland and safety Tyvon Branch, who Kiffin said earlier in the day is the current leader for that role.

— Rookie wide receiver Chaz Schilens was taken to task by receivers coach James Lofton for not coming back hard enough to catch a pass.

— The offense spent one session running plays apart from the defense, meaning the opposing “defense” consisted of second- and third-line offensive players. McFadden, fortunately, looked to be a rock when it came to pass blocking against blitzing Ivy League quarterback Jeff Otis.

If the 49ers play their second-line offense as a defense against Oakland, the Raiders look to be in business.

— Johnnie Lee Higgins would seem to have a roster edge since he is the leader to be the punt return specialist, but in terms of catching the ball and making plays as a receiver, Holland appears to be staying right with him or even outplaying him.

— Nnamdi Asomugha perfectly diagnosed a JaMarcus Russell slant pass in a 7-on-7 drill, jumped the route and ran for a would-be touchdown.

— Linebackers Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard are so adept at pass coverage that the defense they refer to as the “dime” _ which in most cases utilizes one linebacker and six defensive backs _ has both men on the field. It is distinguished from the nickel by the positioning of the backs.

— Wide receiver Todd Watkins had one drop of a Russell pass over the middle and later a juggle which he managed to retrieve, but ended practice on a strong note, catching a deep out from Marques Tuiasosopo with an impressive leap and grab as three horns sounded to end the session.

— Following Watkins’ grab, the team met in the center of the field, but Kiffin dispatched Janikowski to attempt a 57-yard field goal. Usually in those instances, something is on the line _ extended curfew, reduced meeting time, etc.

Janikowski, who had nailed a pair of 43-yard kicks in an end-of-game drill earlier in practice, this time missed wide right.

— The Raiders practice once Monday from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m.


Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Dakota


    Are you hoping for a move back to LA???

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    I have a feeling that AD will not deal with a player repped by Alvin Keels again. Keels is the agent that got Larry Johnson his big money contract with the Chiefs.

  • Die Hard Broncos Fan

    Rapid City Raiders has a certain ring to it…

  • Dakota


  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    I’m not hoping for a move to L.A. I just want the Raiders to have the revenue streams to compete with the deep pocket teams. Unless they move to N.W. Ohio,(lol) I could care less where they relocate to or whether they remain in Oakland.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    The Rapid City Raiders could hold their training camp in conjunction with the Sturgis Rally. lol. That would toughen them up. lol

  • Dakota

    I’d like to see Jevon Walker try to spray the crowd at the Buffalo Chip with Champagne, lol.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Sturgis.com for 2008 info. August 4th-10th.

  • Dakota,

    You been following the sale of our beloved Cubbies?

    Price is over $1 bil… I’ll need another job ot two.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Report over the weekend that Mark Cuban has the highest bid but the Commish is trying to put another group together as he fears the impact Cuban would have.
    Cuban is 1 of 3 finalists. http://cbs11tv.com/sports/mark.cuabn.cubs.2.779814.html
    Coulnd find the anti Cuban link.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Found it. Selig trying to manuver associate as he fears impact on White Sox.

  • Dakota


    I would love to see Cuban as our owner. The Tribune Co. screwed us for years and the only reason they have been spending $$$ over the past 4 years is because they wanted to boost the sales price and it looks like it is going to work. The sale includes Wrigley Field doesn’t it? For 1.3 Billion I would hope so!

    Cuban + no salary cap = spending spree…probably will not win us a WS, but it will be exciting.

  • Dakota


    John Canning Jr already missed the cut…he is out of the running for the Cubs.

  • Andrews mom

    waaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa
    My rant didnt get any attention
    I guess it isnt near as witty as I thought.
    Maybe I best go back to the top ten QB’s of all time

  • Dakota

    Give it time Andrews Mom, BHP isn’t awake yet.

  • Dakota,

    I’m pulling for Cuban too. Can’t stand the Mavs and his whiny act, but for some reason I think he would be great for the Cubbies. An owner that cares about wins? I wouldn’t know how to act…

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Down but not totally out.
    “The Canning group could return to the process, especially if baseball finds Zell’s recommended owner objectionable. Some insiders saw the rejection of the Canning bid as Zell trying to preclude a dictated choice by Major League Baseball.”


    Interesting that Jordan signs with NE. What does NE see that most here can’t? Hopefully not the same thing they saw in R. Moss that none saw here as everyone here wanted Moss gone only for him to leave for nothing and go to NE and set records and lead the league.

    After being burned like that it’s good that Big AL took his time and hopefully made the right choice. The last thing I want to see is another former Raider return to the top of their game after leaving the Raiders because the coaches couldn’t get the best out of the player.

  • I can see it now. Cuban gets the Cubs then signs $900,000,000 in free agents in the first year he owns the team. THAT would be good for baseball. Another owner that can compete with the Yanks for every big name FA. With all his money, he’ll petition MLB to institute the DH in the national league so he can spend more monet to get Manny!

  • Money, not monet, unless Cuban is an art afficianado

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Raider training camp one-liners @ PFT.com

  • Dakota

    I am sure Moss would have dominated with McClown throwing him balls in 2007, lol.

  • Johnny Rebel
  • Dakota


    If Cuban wins the bidding and then FrankenBud and his cronies reject him as an owner and force his little Brewer’s buddy on the Cubs I will be pissed…I don’t know what I will do but I will be pissed!


    Kiffin has alot of work to do and alot to prove this up coming season. Unless Kiff is a complete disaster early he will be given this season to prove his worth. We’ve been re-building throught the draft for the past 5 years like so many fans have wanted and losing like young inexperienced teams do and all fans can do is complain about AL.

    Big AL gives this virtual nobody with no HC experience in Kiff a chance to coach a pro team. Well excuses aside, Kiff only won four games and we didn’t have a passing game nor a run defense. This year Big AL has added a few peices and both Kiff and Ryan will be closely evaluated as we should not have those same problems at least not to the same degree.

    Warm and fuzzy personal feeling aside about Kiff, Norv Turner to date is still the most successful Raider Head Coach since the 2002 SB.


    McClown was Kiff’s choice and R. Moss has proven that he can produce with different QB’s throwing him the ball. lOl!!

  • Dakota


    Ever wonder why Al had to give a “virtual nobody” a chance to be the head coach of the Oakland Raiders?

    Al made his bed, now he has to sleep in it….wet behind the ears coach and all.

  • Dakota

    BIG AL’s GOON Says:
    July 28th, 2008 at 9:36 am
    McClown was Kiff’s choice and R. Moss has proven that he can produce with different QB’s throwing him the ball. lOl!!

    Like Aaron Brooks and Kerry Collins?

  • Dakota

    If Al didn’t want to move Randy Moss, Al should not have traded Randy Moss. Remember, Al is the General Manager, not Kiffin.

    If Al allowed himself to be manipulated into trading Moss by a 33 year old college assistant coach, against his better judgment, then he should retire from the game immediately.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    It won’t let me post about the Curse of the Billy Goat on the Cubbies. I’ve eaten at Billy Goats under Michigan Ave., the basis of the cheeburger, cheeburger skit on Sat Night Live with Buluchi and Ackroyd.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Let’s try it again: http://www.dacurse.com/

  • Dakota

    The Raiders have not won for 25 years…is it time we announce a curse?

    I nominate: The Marcus Allen curse. (can only be cured if Marcus Allen signs a one-day contract with the Raiders and re-retires a Raider)

  • Big Al is the decider.

    Moss wasn’t worth two Bowies.

    Pride and Poise.

  • Thec

    Lamont jordan will have issues just making the patriots team. If he does he will be low on the depth chart

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Careful what you wish for. With the hatred between AD and Marcus, we won’t win for 100 yrs. lol

  • I think the curse has more to do with Bo and the freak leg injury.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    The curse on the Bengals continues:
    “Defensive end Antwan Odom, the biggest-money free-agent acquisition the Bengals have ever made, emerged from the first training-camp practice with what appears at first blush to be (per Bengals.com) a “major injury” to his foot.”

  • Dakota

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 28th, 2008 at 10:00 am
    I think the curse has more to do with Bo and the freak leg injury.

    The Kevin Walker curse?

  • Dakota

    Bo Jackson college highlights:


    HD#37, even you should click on this one…

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder


    MR could relate to that! lol

  • Dakota

    Lafat Jordan should never have been allowed to desecrate and defile the #34.

  • Florida Pete

    the only way Lamont gets a ring even as a Patriot…

    is if someone hands it to him…

    cause he damn sure won’t catch it…

  • Raider Dell

    Al’s Bedpan

    Post # 87 was just great and funny, great observations and promise for this upcoming season.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    For LaMont’s sake, I hope he does’t get a ring. He’ll eat himself out of the NFL on the banquet circuit,

  • Dakota
  • Florida Pete


    THESE are Jordan’s hands…

    (okay, they’re replicas, still)

  • Dakota Says:
    July 28th, 2008 at 8:09 am
    Calm down 408, lol, we will be big and bad once we get some decent offensive tackles and DTs…right now let’s shoot for respectable.

    7-9 or better this year,
    10-6 or better next year, w/ a playoff win
    Super Bowl contender in 2011!

    you dakota stop raining on my sunshine unless its with Kool-Aid LOL

  • Dakota

    I found Al Davis’ senior picture:


  • Dakota

    Sorry 408:


    No kool-aid found here.

  • I found this pictures of MR on his wedding day!!!