Training camp, Day 8 (A.M. practice)
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, July 31st, 2008 at 1:29 pm in Oakland Raiders, Preseason (2005), Raiders features.
Quick hits from Thursday morning’s practice:
– He may not have had his best fastball, but JaMarcus Russell was felt good enough to rejoin practice and make due with off-speed stuff, choosing to simply flick his wrist rather than unleash the full power of his $60 million right arm.
In his first team session, Russell completed two of five passes, one a short pass to Johnnie Lee Higgins and a dump-off to fullback Oren O’Neal. Michael Huff broke up a sideline pass intended for tight end Darrell Strong, a screen to Louis Rankin fell incomplete and Derrick Burgess pressured him into an incomplete pass.
In Russell’s second team session, there were two more short completions.
During seven-on-seven drills, Russell was the victim of a perfectly-played pick by Nnamdi Asomugha, who stole a pass intended for Arman Shields in stride and ran the other for what would have been a touchdown.
“You can see a little bit of a velocity issue with him right now, different from normal,” Kiffin said. “I think that will go away here pretty soon.”
Kiffin said the staff watched Russell closely and that trainer Rod Martin gave the go-ahead to continue.
Russell acknowledged he wasn’t 100 percent but wasn’t comfortable watching from the sidelines.
“I just wanted to get out here today just so I could get back in practice,” Russell said. “I don’t really like sitting out and watching guys bust their behinds when I can be out there doing something. Just anything out there I can help.”
– Right guard Cooper Carlisle and right tackle Cornell Green were given the morning session off, with the Raiders reshuffling their line to accomodate the absence of two starters. Seth Wand got some work at right tackle, Chris Morris at right guard, and Mario Henderson has been working on both sides.
– Speaking of Henderson, it sounds as if Kiffin’s patience has about run out on the first of three third-round picks in the 2007 draft. During the offseason, Kiffin said the Raiders were working on Henderson’s lack of aggression and his passion for football.
It sounds like Kiffin and line coach Tom Cable haven’t made much headway. Rather than shift into coach-speak when asked if Henderson was challenging Green at right tackle, Kiffin was blunt and to the point.
“No, he’s not pushing him. We’ll continue to move Mario around to both sides,” Kiffin said. “Mario is not improving the way we’d like him to so we’ll just continue to push him. But it’s not close right now.”
When asked if Henderson needed to shore up a particular area, Kiffin said, “No, it’s everything right now. Unfortunately.”
– Sounds like Javon Walker, the free agent aquisition whose salary suggests he is the No. 1 receiver but whose practice play has been so-so, will begin getting some extra work starting Monday.
Kiffin said Walker and Fred Wakefield, rehabbing from a knee injury, would begin working twice per day Sunday when the 49ers visit Napa.
When asked if Walker was making progress, Kiffin said, “There’s progress being made. I wouldn’t say as much as I’d like at this point so we’re going to continue to push them. I think pushing him back into two-a-days will help him.”
– Defensive tackle Gerard Warren missed with a thigh injury sustained Wednesday night. Kiffin said he didn’t think the injury was as serious as one that hampered Warren last year and said he was day-to-day. Tommy Kelly sat out as scheduled and should practice tonight. Cornerback John Bowie (knee) did not practice.
Safety Greg Wesley (back spasms) was back at practice but did little of note.
– Defensive tackle Terdell Sands, who has avoided speaking with reporters for the first week of camp for reasons that ranged from a team meal to a team meeting to a doctor’s visit, stopped and chatted for a few minutes.
He conceded to being in better condition this year and was affected last season by the death of his mother.
“I lost my mother last year, so that was very big,” Sands said. “You lose anything like that, some things take tolls on you. You lose things that are aspects of life right there. That’s behind me. I’ve got to push on this year.”
Sands said he takes responsibility for the Raiders’ run defense in 2008.
“I take it all, because they look for me to be a big part of it,” Sands said. “And like I say, I wasn’t mentally in it, so I did some gap responsibility and all my true effort wasn’t out there. I thought I was. But when I watch film, it really wasn’t like I was the year before. So I take responsibility and put it on myself.”
Sands declined to specify how much he weighed last year and how much he weighs now.
– Kiffin has taken to visiting with members of the Raiders’ personnel department occasionally during practice sessions. Wednesday it was Bruce Kebric, Thursday it was Kent McCloughan.
– Defensive tackle William Joseph was worked over by Chris Morris and Jesse Boone on consecutive plays during a blocking drill. Kwame Harris buried Kalimba Edwards on another.
– McFadden was fielding kickoffs along with Hiram Eugene, Rankin, Adimchinobe Echemandu and Tyvon Branch, prompting Kiffin to be asked whether the Raiders’ biggest off-season investment might be utilized on that role.
“He’s such an explosive player that it’s something we have to look at,” Kiffin said. “Part of that will be determined by how the other returners do. Let’s say Branch in preseason is returning great. Then it’s not worth it. If you have a great return situation to put Darren out there that may not be worth it. If we’re struggling, then it becomes more valuable to us.”
Said McFadden, who has been in camp eight days and has had a sunny and agreeable disposition for every one of them: “I don’t know if they’re going to use me back there or not but I’m always prepared for it.”
– Practice joggers for pre-snap violations included Harris, Robert Gallery, tight end Chris Wagner and defensive end Greyson Gunheim.
Gunheim, an undrafted free agent from Washington, actually protested his lap, telling Kiffin that Henderson had first moved his leg, drawing him offsides. Gunheim was right, by the way.
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July 31st, 2008 at 1:42 pm
sell more tickets
July 31st, 2008 at 1:43 pm
TRADE FOR FAVRE, NOW! (jk)
July 31st, 2008 at 1:46 pm
If you dont lead off each blog with a raiderette pic like this you might as well say First!!
http://www.raiders.com/Raiderettes/CheerleaderBio.aspx?id=712
July 31st, 2008 at 1:46 pm
bout freaking time!!! Thanx Jerry you know ur our dawg even if you dont luv the RAIDERS like we do!!!!!
July 31st, 2008 at 1:46 pm
wheres the competition for Janikowski ? This guy better get together.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:48 pm
What about Hartwell???
July 31st, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Supporting your team only when they win is called band wagoning, no one like the last 5 years, but I will grudgingly accept them after 40 years of dominating the NFL.
So you want to throw Al under the bus because of the last five years then remember you are also throwing the last 47 years of our history under the bus with him.
Has he got old, yeah has he got a little senile, yeah but what are we going to do take him out to the pasture and shoot him. We can only hope that he has surrounded himself with good decision makers that are ready to step in when he does die.
Back to my question unkoolkell please do tell me what incredible depth and insight you bring to this Blog again because you sure were bragging about it a minute ago and you never answered my question. Your only retort was how we would care what kind of diapers Al is wearing.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Who keeps breaking the dang site?
July 31st, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Does anyone remember Kent McCloughan?
The first superstar corner for the Raiders #47, he was good.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:53 pm
F’ the Dodgers and Manny Ramirez! Go Raiders Russell to McFadden all day, baby!
July 31st, 2008 at 1:54 pm
It broke down after every game last year right when it was getting heavy into the game.
Cant register
Cant stop the trolling
Cant stop the breakdowns
Sounds like you phoned this on in Jerry
What the hell did my boy do today?
July 31st, 2008 at 1:59 pm
jerry just so you know the spelling and grammer police are out in full force!!!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:01 pm
666,
I’ve been to games when Al Davis was the real Head Coach in 64′
I don’t need some 15-20 yr old kid, wannabe raider fan, telling me what a fan is.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I’m feeling good about this camp, but why can’t Mario get mean and show the staff some progress?
July 31st, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Someone needs to put some hotsauce in that boy’s meals … gettem mean … he’s wasting his time … and ours
July 31st, 2008 at 2:05 pm
wow manny to the dodgers look out diamondbacks
July 31st, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Seabass is our kicker and no other kicker that we would bring in could steal his spot from him. It would be a huge waste of time…Who’s the guy we brought in last year to compete against him in camp?…exactly. BTW where is Vanderjacht? Liquored up? Bring him in and have a drinking/kicking contest between him and Seabass…My money would still be on ol’ Jug Leg.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Mario needs to punch someone in the mouth. A little scuffle, something. He has to develope a mean streak or go across the Bay.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
SeaBass aonother player with all the potential and none of the focus needed to suceed.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Aso, coming up with another big interception…atta kid.
JRuss better not already be showing weakness injury wise…we kinda need him around for a while and if he is gonna become one of those injury prone quarterbacks (McNabb) we could be in trouble.
Otherwise, the line is having problems AGAIN and that seriously needs to get situated on pronto because preseason is right around the corner leaving less time for fixing mistakes.
Cmon raiders STEP IT THE F&CK UP I’M TIRED OF SEEING A LOSING TEAM IT’S TIME FOR REAL RAIDER FOOTBALL NOW, THIS IS OUR DECADE!!! BRING OUT THOSE WINS AND GIVE YOUR FANS HOPE AGAIN…..DO IT FOR ALL OF US WHO STUCK WITH YOU WE DESERVE IT.
GO RAIDERS!!!!! F*CK THE REST!!!!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Hey Andrew, that Raiderette is BOSS man!! I’m with you on that bro. Oh shizz, is that wifey coming…?!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
If Mario is bust and Wilson is gone, we need to find two more tackles….and quickly.
Kwame has potential. Green is a faithful and liable back-up. McQuistan can cover, at a push. But we are short a decent RT and lacking any meaningful cover at LT.
We have got to go shopping…NOW.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Anybody hear how Kelly is holding up?
July 31st, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Janibrewski must be hating Chef Roll and his menu…
July 31st, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Disappointing to hear that Joseph isn’t dominating. I had hopes that he would thrive here and show some of his college form.
But, good to see that Morris and Boone are still pushing hard for the roster. Morris is a cert because he can cover Guard and Center. If Grove is the starter, I think we should cut Wade and give the back-up spot to a young, hungry stud like Boone. Mr Carlight would give blood for the cause.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Scottish
McQuistan did a better job at RT near the end of the year than Green ever did. Competition my azz he should be there right now.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Just what I was afraid of, Kiff has Russell throwing those %$%&!# 7 ?><”&*) Yard #$~]</’*? McCown’s %^:/< 07 =_`,:{$ playbook.
Kiff,if you mess up Russell’s arm,I will be on the 1st. Southwest plane to Oaktown & kick your azz my own damn self.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:18 pm
RE: post #9
Kent McCloughan, Dave Grayson, Willie Brown and George Atkinson …. Now there was a defensive backfield.
Grayson – All time AFL team
Willie Brown – HOF
McCloghan – All AFL a number of years
Atkinson – The Raiders enforcer before Tatuma and a well known “criminal element” as per Chuck Knoll
When Atinkinson is the weakest member of your secondary … how sick is that!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:19 pm
I am feeling good bout the d. and a checkdown to mcfadden might be good enough coupled with a deep threat. Hope warren stays healthy.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Memo to Jerry:
Do you ever talk to any raiderettes?
I wonder if any of them would come here once in awhile and answer some questions.
Maybe one day you could give us a low down on their practices.
Now that would earn you many atta boys and pats on the back.
PS Tell Cheri I am almost well set financally and I love her eyes
July 31st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Chris Henry had his suspension changed to 4 games. We could use another WR and he is a free agent.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Now thats exactly what I wanted to hear,,,or atleast read about. Kwame Harris putting someone on thier ass. I anticipated the O-line making some strides as the weeks go by. It also looks like Jake Grove is trying to make a statement as well, but unfortunately it looks like the game is about to end for the Mario brother.
And Im with Los T; I wanna know whats going on with Ed Hartwell. It seems like Ricky Brown is making a real good push for the starting line up. Must be something about that name Ricky. YA KNOW?!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:24 pm
McCloughan Grayson, Bird, Brown.
Circa 1967
July 31st, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Henry would atleast be a good insurance policy for Walker, And we would get four games to decide if Walker is foing to make it.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
scott- yes I think boone is interesting… but if wade can eliminte the droped snaps/false starts.. that could be the difference of a season.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Cole
http://www.raiders.com/Raiderettes/CheerleaderBio.aspx?id=716
July 31st, 2008 at 2:26 pm
I like this kid Brown. He sees the opportunity, knows Williams is a pansy-azz and he’s going after it. With ZERO bullshizz and talking! Now that’s the type of attitude we need around these parts!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:26 pm
so, kool, what did you think about Billy cannon’s play??
July 31st, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Andrews mom come on dude are you serious as much as I am a hard core raider fan I must admit we need to work on our cheerleaders I mean the girl u sweatin is ok but like I said yesterday she’s not all that…….now them dolphins down here in fla they got some bombshell cheerleaders we may need to recruit some of them hot tomales! Love the news on these other guys jerry! Javon needs to get his act together but he has time…….Sands I know he’s been through some devastating things my condolences for the loss of his mother, if he’s over it like he say he is then there are no more excuses none this year so I hope he can be the beast we need down there
July 31st, 2008 at 2:27 pm
yes the linbacker comp is super refreshing,
July 31st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
We need another OT. The best still available are:
Donald Penn (RFA), Buccaneers.
Erik Pears, Broncos
Anthony Clement, Jets
Adam Kieft (RFA), Bengals
Come on, Kiff. Make some calls.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Dave Grayson is the best ball-hawking free saftey I’ve ever seen with the Raiders.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Ghost, Wade offers nothing new. A fitter, stronger Grove should be the starter. He was outstanding against the Broncos last season, before he got hurt.
Wade will just clog up development. Boone is younger, hungrier, better on STs and still has real upside. Wade is a respected but tired veteran. Gone.
Just like Hartwell, Spires and Wesley…sadly.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Loved Billy Cannon, what play, SB II ?
July 31st, 2008 at 2:35 pm
cole cherie battle royale- no cage
July 31st, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Thanks for the update on Walker….Is Bush lowering his shoulder and hittin guys or what?
The other players need to have a sit down with Mario and set his ass str8…..
no whimps aloud…hit thr road, if yer heart ain’t in it….
Thanks Jerry
July 31st, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Well I wasn’t alive, think he beat the chargers in the championship when with the oilers, then al recruted him to oakland once al arived here,, never saw him play but he’s my grandpas cousin so wanted to get the first hand
July 31st, 2008 at 2:37 pm
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July 31st, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Real Deal Leadership:
I’m just trying to protect myself as much as I can,” Russell said after practice. “I just wanted to get out here today just so I could get back in practice. I don’t really like sitting out and watching guys bust their behinds when I can be out there doing something. Just anything out there I can help.”
July 31st, 2008 at 2:38 pm
V
Janikowski’s accuracy past the 45 is shaky at best. The one year he changed his plant foot hw faired better.
we should of swept the donkeys- thanks Jano- fat ass
July 31st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Yeah we need to replace the first thing with the cheer leaders it would be better
July 31st, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Oh yeah, I saw that on TV. He was great when he got to the Raiders, and with the Raiders. The Original.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Scottish..
Nice, but that pom-pom is obstructing the goods..
July 31st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Jano isn’t a fat ass, he is a go**amn f**king choke artist that couldn’t make a f**king winning kick if he sold his soul to the devil!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Dirty I like women for more then their looks and the size of their eyes.
She has a killer smile, likes animals, has a job, is a Raider fan and I luv her with all my heart.
I think you are jealous because I am on the fast track to winning her heart.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:43 pm
WE will be able to run the rock again but at the tackles we are in trouble! Willie Jo gotta step uo baby!! I’m hoping Sands bounces back and plays like he did against the Chargers in week 17.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
lol
Sharing is caring
July 31st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
post 54 is a another non truth…….so jano has never made a game winning FG? try again
July 31st, 2008 at 2:45 pm
KoolKell I agree….Russell is a gamer
July 31st, 2008 at 2:45 pm
PhillyRaider…
Now, you’re talkin…
July 31st, 2008 at 2:46 pm
the reports are that ricky brown is making a push at SLB………dont know if it is good or bad. I know at MLB we dont have a sure tackler just a great cover guy
July 31st, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Post # 48?! What did I say moderators, what did I say?!!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:46 pm
#54
Dirty, thats what I am talking about.
Put a smile on the hard working raiderettes and post them instead of First!!
There should be a rule, a Raider rule
July 31st, 2008 at 2:47 pm
909, imagination is everything. Chelsea is the muse of possibility.
As Shakespeare said: “I am giddy, expectation whirls me round.”
Whirl me, Chelsea, whirl me.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Scottish Raiders………I’m not sold on Grove. He is just too weak. He played great vs Denver yeah very true…….but Denver’s dline sucks ass
July 31st, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Andrew
We should have a vote and if it passes whoever ignores the rule gets hazed until a new article is posted!
I vote for the girls!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:49 pm
BY the way, I wrote Cheri and told her I wont look at any other Raiderette pics, just hers.
I think she was the goddess Venus in a past life.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Thanks 909!! Here she is again. Someone took her down ’cause she wasn’t their type:
http://www.raiders.com/Raiderettes/CheerleaderBio.aspx?id=678
July 31st, 2008 at 2:50 pm
I’m in 909!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Brien…but he has been Rolled. In terms of getting our guys fit and strong, Fish was stale but Roll is the biscuit.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:52 pm
I heard through the grapevine that hollywood is a doing a remake of the movie xena : warrior princes and Cheri will play Xena.
I hope her big eyes dont keep her from weilding a sword like a pro
July 31st, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Scottish…..
Just need to see them hips. Like mine a little on the curvy side.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:54 pm
LOL SCottish
July 31st, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Hey Drew’s Mom, aren’t you a chick?
July 31st, 2008 at 2:54 pm
andrews moms got it going on
July 31st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
nope
July 31st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
wow the raiderettes are popular today and so close to the first of the month
July 31st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Hartwell most likely won’t make the team. Sad Story about Mario Henderson. Why do we draft guys that really don’t care about the game?? Get rid of him.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
I’m gonna have to agree with Philly on this one. That asian cheerleader is fine as hell.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Oakglenn let’s just hope Henderson shows better in the preseason games……..Harris scares me
July 31st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
909, you need to close your eyes and be guided by your imagination. Chelsea will lead your soul to the promised land!!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
BTW, Kiff scmoozin with the personnel guys sounds like he maybe lookin to get a few new people!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Philly…thanx again..
I’ll be back in 5 minutes…..lol…
July 31st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
But if I was a chick, Cheri would still be my dreamboat
July 31st, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Man I wish Hartwell would make it……….Raiders need a true MLB badly
July 31st, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Brien,
Post 54 was meant in light of the loss to the Donkeys last year. It is a general comment. Gee, you want the truth and nothing but the truth in every post on here? Not gonna happen. My statement is a generalization obviously, too bad you can’t see that.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Scottish…..HAHAHAHA…you, are killing me bro…
July 31st, 2008 at 2:58 pm
For LMN
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa88/panther115_photo/BIKINI%20BABES/sexy-girl.jpg
July 31st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Being tragically a homer for the city of Oakland……The raiderettes were much finer in LA
July 31st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Thanks Huff! D@mn, I see she has a kid. Well we’ll just have to make sure he goes to bed really early every night!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
http://www.raiders.com/Raiderettes/CheerleaderBio.aspx?id=19608
I saw a few girls that are pretty good lookin but Nicole is lookin pretty sweet and I usually like the brunettes.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Philly – Hah. Theres nothin wrong with MILF status. Just don’t fully commit ya know?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:00 pm
yeah and what’s the truth or generalization in that disrespectful screen handle you sport?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Well, Jano does sound as inconsistent as ever.
Javon Walker is, “questionable”
Haven’t heard much about Kelly
Kwame Harris is running alot of penalty laps
July 31st, 2008 at 3:01 pm
I think Hartwell will make it because I don’t think we have a solid backup MLB and Hartwell brings experience and insurance. He may not push anybody out of the way but hes nice to have if Morrison or someone else gets hurt.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Brien, I agree and I have always wanted Morrison moved outside, but Hartwell is gone.
Mike Smith of the Ravens is the best unsigned MLB still available.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Hmmm..Nicole seems to be a natural brunette. Makes sense.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I’m with you on THAT Huff!! Wow, I just realized I never even went on the Raiderette page til today. I been married way too d@mn long!!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Huff
You impress me all the time
July 31st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
El Dirty…..Big AL, needs to sign HER and quick!!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Wow, we really choked on those three 2007 third rounders (Henderson, Moses and Higgins). If we can salvage Higgins or Holland, and Bush can come around we will have had a great 2007 draft with Miller, Russell, ONeal and Richardson.
Maybe one of those drafts that the NFL Network will one day have to run a story called…How the 21st Century Raider Dynasty Began.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
What bothers me about Kwame Harris is he doesn’t seem to be an upgrade over Barry Sims. Harris is false starting all over the field and he can’t pass block. Whats the damn difference besides the age?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
morrison is solid inside a little undersized but has a nose to get to the ball carrier.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Thank you…Thank you.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
I cannot believe these blogs, everytime I read them JaMarcus is throwing interceptions. I keep forgetting that during practice a quarterback throws 40-60 passes.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Huffster LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL but very true
July 31st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Huff, Nicole teaches Greek-style dancing! She has got to show you that!!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
No offense to JR…but he better be throwin interceptions with Asomugha and Hall covering people.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
My online name? Does if offend you ,Brien? If it does I could care less.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Wow that was so insightful koolkell!
I don’t know what I would do without the incredible insight you bring to this blog!!
At first I thought you were a young punk that acts like he never got laid but now I know your an old fart that has bad hemorrhoid.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
he’s a rookie qb be prepared to see a couple of bad throws a game.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Huff exactly what upgrade at LT did we get? Yes Scottish, sad reality we must go on without a true MLB in Oakland again. Morrison just aint physical enough
July 31st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Some haiku for my love cheri
who drolls for Cheri
Cheri smells like ripe berries
cheri and raiders rule
July 31st, 2008 at 3:08 pm
It wont let me post the best thing ever!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Philly….
Maybe Kiff, was talking w/ those personal guys about trying to get Henry??? Hmmmmm…
July 31st, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Ouch SnB, that was a deep slice! Anyway, I like Morrison in the middle. Yeah he plays a bit light in the azz against the run but you would too with guys coming at you fullspeed on every play.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:08 pm
post 109………..don’t answer a question with a question
July 31st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Since the grammar and name police are out, I might as well chip in…
…the proper term is I COULDN’T CARE LESS
lol, sorry ABA.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Philly – She can show me anything she wants. I love Gyro’s. lol.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Now back to what I bring to the blog. Hatred of local sports writers that like to kick dirt on the Raiders.
I have called them on their lies all off season Jamarcus so called weight problem etc.
It couldn’t be more evident who is in charge, Kiffin is running this organization and Al is letting him. Contrary to what the local sports writers would have you think.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:10 pm
I’m very curious to see this season how Kiffin will use 3 and 4 WR sets……….we know the NFL is moving towards this trend as it is
July 31st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Huff re: harris vs sims… hopefully the difference is the upside … sims had none… Harris has some…even if they start in the same position…
July 31st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
666
You can suck my hemmoroids.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
SNB666- very true. Many are mad because Al gave themthe finger a long time ago
July 31st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
I gotta be honest 909. I know Henry would be an instant upgrade but the guys off-field is worst than T.O.!! And I gave my Iggle boys a load of shizz over that era. I KNOW they’d give it to me bigtime the first time Henry was in cuffs. No deal.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Dakota,
I knew that one because it bugs me as much as someone saying irregardless.
Sooo Sorry to offend the Grammatical Enforcement Squad
July 31st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Danny Clark is he still out there available?? Id sign him
July 31st, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I COULDN’T JUST GET HE PIC ON HERE JUST SCROLL DOWN I HAD NO IDEA!
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/REIGNBLOOD/146335
July 31st, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I COULDN’T JUST GET HE PIC ON HERE JUST SCROLL DOWN I HAD NO IDEA!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
whats the old saying..if you bare it I will share it!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:15 pm
666,
You didn’t know I was and old fart?
That’s why I told you earlier to get a f’n clue. You have no idea what’s going on, cheerleader.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:15 pm
El Dirty – Stop posting pictures of my g/f Jessica. Shes mine!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:15 pm
ABA,
You gotta watch out or the GES will bust through your door and confiscate your keyboard, lol.
What was that noise? Oh sheit, they are coming for me right now!
What do you mean gotta ain’t a word? You can’t take my key…………………………………………
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July 31st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Huff
I never liked her until now
July 31st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Philly….
Just have, BIG AL’S GOON keep an eye on him…lol
July 31st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
No doubt Dirty, Jessica Alba is HOT!! But as a Marvel fan since I was a kid, dude that chick IS NOT Sue Richards. Now the chick Scotty posted… hmmmmm!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
WOW
Thanks El Dirty I liked that picture!!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:19 pm
El Dirty – Well its about time. Way to jump on the bandwagon but listen…you’re too late…I already jumped on the wagon and got the hell out of dodge. I’ve liked JA since the beginning of time…that booty is the best I’ve ever seen in regards to a girl that is like the girl next door. She is the kind of girl you want to take home to mom.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Dakota,
The GES isn’t as menacing as Sister Margaret Francis teaching English. I never knew a nun could hurt you more with a stick than your father could with his belt.
See you later…
July 31st, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Come to think of it 909, you wanna put Javon “Spray Me” Walker and Chris “Steel Bracelets” Henry in the same locker room. There aren’t enough fuzz in Oaktown to handle the chaos, lol!!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:20 pm
For Scottish
http://www.chelseapies.tv/EC264BEC-79A6-4AD8-B0D0-B1472836F3B2.jpg
July 31st, 2008 at 3:20 pm
KoolKell I know you missed your med’s today when the Psych nurse came by but don’t take it out on me.
This is your last chance to prove your prowess.
WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU BRING TO THE BLOG!!!
Please respond this time show me your superior knowledge is all I am asking, or shut your big false teeth having mouth.
You keep saying I don’t have a clue and you are so knowledgeable so please prove it.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:21 pm
ok I’m done with my perverted moment… I got to excited
July 31st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
ABA,
You gotta watch out for those nuns with sticks, and those priests with….
July 31st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
We are all waiting to hear what it is that makes you so superior to the rest of us.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
El Dirty – I’ve liked Alba since 1999 in the movie Idle Hands. Check this out.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z44/crimson-eye/alba1.jpg
July 31st, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Post # 141… Yeeoouch!! That girl is FINE Dirty. Petite all around except where it counts! I wonder if she speaks Mandarin though?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:24 pm
I didn’t say I was superior to anybody else but YOU, ok?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Speaking of superior…what happened to Blackholepriest? Haven’t seen him around.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Just because you were alive during the great depression doesn’t mean you have more football knowledge than the rest of us.
Don’t clam up on us now big talker.
Prove your big time I am waiting.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Huff, Huff, Huff my man, THAT is Jessica Alba!! D@MN!!! I gotta go to the bathroom. I won’t be right back!!! (I kid, I kid!)
July 31st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
I think I was the only person who liked the show Dark Angel. How can you not? You don’t even have to care about whats going on.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
666,
I just said cheerleading pootbutts like you annoy me, ok?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Huff,
BHP is around, he was here last night. He has a very positive outlook…on everything…lol.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:27 pm
what do ya’ll think of Lynch leaving the Bronco’s?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Hee Hee Hee
July 31st, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Black Hole Priest actually is very smart and has some good insight. I enjoy reading his posts more than Jerry’s.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Dakota – I bet he does. Hes gotta be workin for the Raiders Public Relations (PR) Department.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Damn you Huff! I wanna comment on football but I keep going back to that Jessica pic! Wow!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Huff
Wow that is some serious A$$
July 31st, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Winner, winner. Chicken dinner..
Post #128, from El Dirty, is by far and away, POST OF THE DAY. Congratulations, you can redeem your prize, at window # 1…..
July 31st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Huff,
BHP just does not want to tick off Mike Taylor…his inside guy…
I was bummed that BHP didn’t get in to watch camp this year, I would have liked to hear what he had to say about it, even if it was ALL POSITIVE, lol.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
OK glad we straightened that out. So your not smarter than Bill Walsh and Al Davis put together.
So you don’t like cheerleaders, well that’s too bad because El Dirty just posted some sick ass pictures.
I think most of us in here spend hours a day thinking about Cheerleaders, too bad your missing out.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
reply to post #50 Jano’s 50+ yarder at denver that hit the top of the upright was a phenomenal kick. There was a high snap that Lechler did a great job of getting the spot. Remember, kicking a fg is a timing play. The timing gets off, the kick is less accurate.
Jake Grove needs to step up and dominate.
Dakota, we still have Bowie from that draft. For now.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Can someone sell me the positive outlook on Kwame Harris
July 31st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
I think the Broncos are idiots. They don’t know what they are doing anymore. Lynch is one of their few good players even if he has lost a step and I would love for the Raiders to steal him and let Walker and Lynch reign havoc on the Broncos for like…1 year to come since thats probably the length of time both players will be with us.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:32 pm
OK you guys…I come on here and read your post alot.
Most of you guys seem to know alot about the Raiders.
I’m in a debate with a freak’n Donkey fan and I need some insight on our o-line.
How do you guys think they will be and who do you think will contribute the most.Any thoughts would heip. Thanks
July 31st, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Endzoner……..grove step up……..weell I guess Jimmy Hoffa coming back to take over the teamsters
July 31st, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Brien the only this I can say about Harris is we have to trust that Cable can make him a real LT because Cable wanted us to go after him.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:32 pm
666,
I’m talking about male cheerleaders like you and George Bush.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:32 pm
help
July 31st, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Naw, Lynch is done. Too many concussions. His brain is scrambled egg
July 31st, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Philly – Hah. Oh theres more where that came from. Turn the safe search off on Google.com, click on images, and type in Jessica Alba in the search and you can enjoy an array of JA pics. She doesn’t do nude however and even though I respect that, the evil side of me does not so anything nude is fake or is a double in a movie.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Kwame Harris= “I’ll keep holding on…..holding!! holding!! hooooooooooooooooooldiiiiiiiiiing!”
July 31st, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Brien
He put Kalimba on his a$$ today
July 31st, 2008 at 3:35 pm
KoolKell
I promise I will never say anything to you ever again!
If you promise never to mention me in the same sentence with that dysfunctional Texan redneck again.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Ken, Lynch was out of gas LAST year. The guy was a great player, most likely a first ballot hall of famer, but if you go my posts breaking down the Bronco games from last year, I said ID that guy 47 and then throw the kitchen sink at him. I don’t think he is going to sign with anyone. Same thing with Edgerton Hartwell. Out of gas.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Huff
There’s a safe switch on google? Bastards!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Kwame Harris aka Simply Red
July 31st, 2008 at 3:36 pm
RFFL – If the Raiders are running the ball, look out. If the Raiders are passing the ball, Pray we don’t have 7 step drops.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:36 pm
OK, pheww, well, we look good in the secondary. I think our LB core is good (just… good). D-line makes me concerned. O-line makes me seriously worry! Receivers will be OK and backfield is a plus! IMHO.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Well Huff naw Kiffin aint archaic like Shell
July 31st, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Brien sounds like Simply Red.
RFFL we were 5th in the league in rushing last year we have improved our O-line and drafted McFadden what more ammo do you need. While Denver’s roster slowly erodes from criminal activity and injuries.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Dline doesnt have me that concerned only thing that does is do we have a viable threat from right end
July 31st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Oakglenn
I know he’s done but from a Raider point of view we run more than we pass and not having to deal with him will be one more positive for us.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
RFFL, just remind them of the 366 rushing yards we dropped on them last year and then tell them Harris is a much better run blocking LT than Sims and now we have Bush and McFadden to run wild over the Broncos.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
666
We were sixth in rushing
July 31st, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Philly – And with all that…we still have EZ-D as our defensive coordinator so nothing matters until we fix that problem.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Kwame Harris is Simply Red…………… We have to pass eventually cant run forever
July 31st, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Grove didn’t start against Denver last Dec. NFL is showing that Newbwerry started.
http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/29383/OAK_Gamebook.pdf
July 31st, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Just tell him the Broncos suck…nothing more, nothing less. And then stop being friends with him so you can have the last word.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Endzoner= the second game of the season
July 31st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Post #173 – Huff, I wanna do it but if wifey catches me I’ll have to move in with one of you guys (not Dakota, he’s sick!) lol!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Grove is a good fit for the cut block system. He just needs to stay healthy.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
You know who is a bigger concern… Javon with that big contract! I think Al messed up on this one.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Raider defense= a MLB and RDE from being the best in the NFL
July 31st, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Your right 6th that’s why I don’t consider myself an expert blogger!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I believe Javon Walker comes to play when the clock is running. I’m not that worried about him
July 31st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
666
lol Me either
July 31st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
666
lol Me either
July 31st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Hah – I’ve heard many times that MR lives in the basement somewhere. Maybe his bedroom in the house is available? lol.
When you’re done looking, go to Tools on the upper menu bar, click on Internet Options and delete all browsing history so it doesn’t show up when you type in a certain letter. That will get you caught everytime.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Rich Harden if a fukin’ animal…3 runs in 4 starts and a ton of Ks…I hope his arm can keep it up…
GO CUBS!
Huff,
How are those Giants doing?
lol
July 31st, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Post 196
Too bad Al couldn’t deal with the Tuna for JT
July 31st, 2008 at 3:45 pm
MRS= the Entertainer from I Love Money on VH1
July 31st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
SF Giants= loser franchise will never win a WS in san fransissyco
July 31st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
The Giants are suckin right now. I was hoping we might get a guy like Manny Ramirez because we need someone who can get some runs in but damn…of all teams…The Dodgers. Its not good. Torre is going to turn that team into the Yankees West.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Rffl…
Just, tell that donkey. That, rat season opens on 9-8-08. No Limit…
July 31st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
This sounds like my son’s football camp with Jerry as the father.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Gunheim, an undrafted free agent from Washington, actually protested his lap, telling Kiffin that Henderson had first moved his leg, drawing him offsides. Gunheim was right, by the way.
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I guess running a lap is not to much fun in beautiful Napa, green trees , beautiful sky, clean air, realitive low heat index. Let’s start an over under on laps per lineman, who will run the most, any takers.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
LMAO at HUFF’s post 201 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
July 31st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
AND NO MORE OF THIS
http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/raiders/2006/09/17/RAIDERS_RAVENS_FOOTBALL_BAF102300×304.jpg
I”M GOING TO GO PUKE!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Huff,
You could always pick up….
Barry Bonds!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Dell……….I’ll take 10-1 odds on Kwame “Simply Red” Harris
July 31st, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Jamal Lewis was a bad mo fo in 2000. 2,000 yard seasons destroy RB’s careers.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Well I’ll be d@mned! Delete history. Thanks Huff! I’m free now, I’m FREE!!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Giants= will turn into the Pirates West LOL
July 31st, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Brien
I have you down for Harris.
Who’s next?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:51 pm
SF Giants= been there since late 50s……..where are the titles? oh yeah it says the polo grounds
July 31st, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Dakota – I’d rather watch my team suck then get Barry
Bonds again. He set us back something big time. His attitude kept people away and he wasn’t strong enough to take no talent people to a WS win. He tried to shoulder everything and it was too much for one man and not even Steroids could do it. I’m happy hes gone and hopefully we can continue to build the team with guys like Rowand. I loved when the team had guys like Jeff Kent and Matt Williams.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Philly – Everybody deserves a fresh start. Haha.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, Juan Marichal, Bobby and Barry Bonds, Matt Williams= can’t win the big one by the bay
July 31st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Is it just me or does Darrell Strong get a lot of time with the 1st team?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Huff24= sounds liek the most genuine Giants fan I ever ran across
July 31st, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Ouch.. bspn, just showed footage of Russell, at camp today. That “sleeve” on his 30M right arm, looked like the ones Upshaw & Shell, wore back when….
July 31st, 2008 at 3:54 pm
LMN – The team is probably trying to focus on depth with moves like that. I think they want to find the best quality for the backup positions so they put them in the spotlight. Strong seems to be impressing.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:54 pm
I’ll take Robert Gallery in any contest that involves penalties
July 31st, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Too bad Huff you will never see a baseball title let’s hope we share a football one sometime soon cuz the Giants aint doing much eventhough Lincecum is hell to deal with
July 31st, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Not to sound cold but, how many players have had parents die during their NFL careers? I’m willing to bet that alot have. Is that really an excuse to drag ass for an entire season. Hell, Farve came into Oakland three days after his dad died, and put about 900 points up against The Raiders.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Thank you sir.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Dell I want 10-1 odds though on Kwame
July 31st, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Huff 24: Jeff Kent is known as one of the biggest A-holes in baseball. Now Matt Williams and Will Clark those were good dudes, but don’t ever put Kent in that list
July 31st, 2008 at 3:57 pm
post 227- no buddy no no no no no…..everyone has different circumstances
July 31st, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Favre was already established when his father died and he was also older. Sands is still young and its hard as hell to lose a mom. It really messed me up for about 2 years. I made so many poor decisions. My head wasn’t on right for awhile so being in a stressful environment and trying to force yourself into paying attention and having that passion has to be tough. Its all about how he rebounds that defines him.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:58 pm
response to 227
Brett was so fun to watch that night. He was also lucky. He threw into coverage and his receivers weren’t about to miss a pass. Remember, his dad was a radio interviewer that knew all the players. Not only did their qb lose a father, they all lost their friend, too.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Will Clkar was accussed inthe late 80s as being a racist but usually white guys will get that tag…..its just the USA for ya
July 31st, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Vegas Raider – I think Kent was perceived that way while working with Bonds. My opinion is that hes not all that bad.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Huff24..
yeah exactly my thoughts too, but I honestly had hoped that guy would be Reece…
Now that Wakefield has become more D/O-line guy than a TE, he has a spot as do-it-all guy…
Madsen, Stewart, Strong and Reece will fight for backup spots… I always liked Madsen, but its a good thing to find a guy who is better but still isn’t starter… (miller is untouchable)
July 31st, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Endzoner-lucky to have P-buc and Radio man Gibson in coverage as well jumping barely over credit cards
July 31st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
post 232- sad to hear that I’m thankful I have mines around……my pops wasnt around like he should have been. Id go nuts if my mom left this planet
July 31st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Gaaaah! I was about to submit a comment stating that I was pretty sure that Huff24 wasn’t a Giants fan, when I realized you were talking that, errr, other thing/sport or what to call it =)
July 31st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
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July 31st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Huff 24: He is as big a jerk as Bonds, trust me. My cousin and one of my better friends is Josh Suchon, who use to write for the Trib and both the A’s and Giants, and not trying to name drop, but Kent was a complete jerk 24/7.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:02 pm
LMN – I still think Madsen should be a WR. I really think he would excel. I like Stewart, hes solid. I too would like to see Reece stay but hes definately an odd man out.
If Strong is the real deal and Reece is as good and versatile as it seems then the team should have Miller, Strong and Reece as the TE’s but Stewart is valuable because hes a good blocker and a solid veteran. Can Strong block very well? That will matter.
Again…I don’t care if Madsen kicks one of our younger WR’s to the curb, I really believe thats where he belongs.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Kent is an a-hole but he could ball…Barry forcing him out of town really hurt the Giants IMO.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:02 pm
that’s true, brien. still, anything he threw was caught
July 31st, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Dakota- yup that is what it was. Bonds ego too big for earth
July 31st, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Vegas Raider – Well…You would know more than me I guess. I’d still like to have his talent on the Giants. How’s that?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:04 pm
In that Favre game I think Philip Buchanan played the worst game ever for a DB. I swear Favre just threw the ball up to who ever was being covered by Phil. Filthy Phil, what a waste he was
July 31st, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Jerks are all through pro sports. but its about production of kent was a producer
July 31st, 2008 at 4:05 pm
anybody think the raiders should take a chance on Chris Henry?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Converting Madsen back to WR… could be a big deal… he could be what M. Williams never turned out to be.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Just to put my two cents in, my mom died of cancer in my junior year in college. I was playing ball and yeah it tore me up for about a year, at least. Turdell will move into the “I dedicate myself and my play to my mom” stage in a bit so let’s not judge too harsh.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Bonds is still top 5 baseball player after Ty Cobb, Ruth, Hank Aaron, and Willie Mays
July 31st, 2008 at 4:06 pm
GO GREEN!!! http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=220>1=45002
July 31st, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Philly exactly
July 31st, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Madsen was tearing it up in pre-season last year. I thought he was going to be used alot and have a breakthrough season but Kiffin was conservative to the extreme and he really held things back by not getting Madsen involved and Bush on the field or JLH more playing time. Kiffin really didn’t trust our QB’s.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Huff did you?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:08 pm
The fact that Henderson is a bust really gets me down! …..Cable is a great coach, but he can’t polish a turd!
How can a professional football player with a huge salary not be motivated???
July 31st, 2008 at 4:08 pm
# Huff24 Says:
July 31st, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Favre was already established when his father died and he was also older. Sands is still young and its hard as hell to lose a mom. It really messed me up for about 2 years. I made so many poor decisions. My head wasn’t on right for awhile so being in a stressful environment and trying to force yourself into paying attention and having that passion has to be tough. Its all about how he rebounds that defines him.
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My Mum died in 2005, Cancer.. I was 27
I second that Huff24, 2 years and 2 month exactly before i fell normal again, one morning i just woke, fell “hey, man, this is going to be a GREAT day” and then you realize hey I haven’t felled like this in ages….
thats why I was, so ‘extra’ happy/blessed my dad didn’t died here in May….
July 31st, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Philly – My mom. 2 1/2 years ago. Lung Cancer spread to her brain and then into her bones. Took 5 months. At least she didn’t suffer long.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Yeah you DAMN RIGHT ABOUT PEOPLE not answering
July 31st, 2008 at 4:10 pm
My dad passed twenty years ago last week. I was a basket case for at least a year.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Huff man that sucks I hate for that for anyone………you only get one mother
July 31st, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Brien – Did I trust the QB’s you mean? No. I thought Kiffin played it well. I just hope he doesn’t continue the conservative gameplan. Lets open it up.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Q…
I think we should pass on him…
July 31st, 2008 at 4:12 pm
CopenhagenFan – It seems the team drafted him only because he was the best available at the time so they drafted for need and they came out with a dud. What do you think?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Why are there so many Madsen fans? He’s never done anything and he’s a tweener……
I think you guys dig him because he’s the great white hope.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:12 pm
CopenhagenFan..
a 3rd round Draft pick from the 2005 i think just retired from the colts.. he didn’t feel for the game anymore…
maybe the same thing wiht henderson, but I hate it, I rally do..
July 31st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Kent was a great RBI guy, and sadly he would still probably be the biggest threat in the Giants current line-up.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
NO YO MOMMA JOKES ALLOWED IN THIS FORUM….isn’t that right LMN???
Respect the dead.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Dakota…
yessir!
July 31st, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Huff…we traded up for Henderson so I assume that the strategy was that he was a high quality player, not just the best available guy. I believe we actually gave up this year’s 3rd rounder to move up and get him.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:14 pm
LMN – I hear ya. You learn to appreciate people when you lose others but it hardens your skin at the same time.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Huffster he will this season got more to work with as far as weapons but tackles do suck
July 31st, 2008 at 4:15 pm
LMN is going to kick on some Colbert Report on the telly…
July 31st, 2008 at 4:15 pm
It has nothing to do with the fact that hes white. I don’t see him as a tweener either. He’s 6′5 240lbs. Calvin Johnson is the same size…should he be a TE?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:16 pm
LMN yeah I saw that Colt’s guy is hanging it up and may have to actually pay back some heavy coin…..he must be a manic depressive creep on ‘roids or something.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Yo momma jokes are weak and shows what type of person you are. I havent made that joke since 5th grade
July 31st, 2008 at 4:16 pm
hmm that sentence, I guess, were a bit of americanization of an danish expression…
July 31st, 2008 at 4:16 pm
But wife jokes are in play……lol im sorry they just are
July 31st, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Also…I don’t think Madsen is better than Walker, Carter, Curry but hes better than the rest of the group.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Copenhagen…….truth is with certain types of athletes it still seems the white hope factor is still alive
July 31st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Well, now we all know we got something that serious in common. Nation love. I know our loved ones can look down on us and say… stop oogling those d@mned cheerleaders!! LOL! Turdell will bounce back with a vengeance!!
July 31st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Huff….you have to admit that Madsen gets a LOT of praise on this board. In my opinion, the praise is out of proportion in relation to his actual performance.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
We have had a couple of players that quit prematurely for one reason or another, Kaufman, that DE Davis, can’t remember his first name, …and that Mormon, I think his name was Herring.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:18 pm
I just dont think there is a spot for Madsen on this team honestly
July 31st, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Huff24…
btw… didn’t you just become a Father yourself, at the time you lost your mother then?..
July 31st, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Kaufman’s body was wearing down………i wish he would have stayed….would have been no charlie garbager in Oakland
July 31st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
LMN skal du “kigge på” TV nu? ha ha….that was hilarious….I do that all the time myself!
Dakota…Scott Davis….and Eli Herring said from the start he wouldn’t play, but Al drafted him anyway in the final round to try to pull a Bo in case he changed his mind.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
On, Jeff Kent.
http://latimes.com/simers
Scroll down for T.J.’s column, from 7-29.
To long of a link to type out for me….
July 31st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Funny…How is it that I can talk highly of a black player because I think hes good but if I mention that a white player should be converted because I think hes good…he has to be called the White Hope? I know there aren’t many white receivers or anything but I’m not looking to get one white guy so I can specifically root for him and hope he becomes great. I just want to have good players, no matter the color. Damn. The white man gets no love anymore.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
no hhaving kaufman and ritchie inthe afc title game vs ravens hurt worse than most will know….on top of idiot gruden’s gameplan change on saturday night
July 31st, 2008 at 4:21 pm
The great white hope factor still alive???
Isn’t that statement racist on its face Brein?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Huff you are right but the history of this country is so bad the gray areas cant be seen logically anymore
July 31st, 2008 at 4:22 pm
CopenhagenFan – If anything…I’m the only one giving Madsen most of he praise and its because I personally believe hes better than we’ve been allowed to see. Maybe I’m wrong but hes shown flashes but it certainly isn’t a white thing.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:22 pm
HUFF Whitey has had a good gig for over 220 years.
But seriously, I cringe when I see people talking Madsen up when he’s done NADA….Whitted had better numbers ha ha
July 31st, 2008 at 4:22 pm
292 you cant say it isnt still alive in peoples hearts rather they want a white to succeed or they blame the extra pub for the basis he is white…..it works both ways
July 31st, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Whitted? Dont ever say that name again
July 31st, 2008 at 4:23 pm
LMN – Not me. I talking up my niece and nephew. Maybe thats what you’re thinking? I’m waiting on the kids thing…I want to have a life for as long as I can. I want to be selfish for awhile and I want to be spoiled.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
lol @ no love for the white guy
July 31st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
HUFF I’m not accussing you of supporting Madsen because he’s white. But with all the support he gets here without any performance to back it up, it’s just a “feeling” or notion I had.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
CopenhagenFan…
nej, jeg mente: “jeg smider/sparker lige noget tv på”
I’m watching last nights Colbert Report on my old xbox =)
July 31st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
The issue isn’t white or black. If none of those WR’s got hands (after the projected top 3-4) then yeah, shift Madsen’s azz to WR and take one of these young studs as the 2nd TE. You gotta admit Madsen doesn’t drop shizz!!
July 31st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
This is the United States and if you think race doesn’t matter why are we talking about it? They aren’t as much in other places……..we got a bad track record that is too dirty to clean up apparently. I don’t like it because I know some great white folks who don’t deserve any bad treatment and know some black guys that should get a coward’s death
July 31st, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Philly Madsen does have good hands
July 31st, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Moving to Denmark has allowed me to have a very small insight into how the typical African American possibly could feel in the USA.
You can’t pinpoint it, you can’t prove it, but the MAN is working behind the scenes to bring you down LOL
July 31st, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I think the reason everyone loves Madsen so much, is when he has done something ( which hasn’t been that often) he has made it look so easy and smooth. The two catches against San Diego two years ago looked great, but he never did anything again.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Huff24…
our situations then is very alike… well we about same age…
I just remember one of the good ole regulars when I first joined this site, just became a father then… thought it was you…
July 31st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
The man is working behind the scenes against everyone…………i.e. the Federal Reserve….the real slave master
July 31st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Brein,
It is a double standard and you know it…if a white guy got on here and said something about a player only making a team because he was black you would be all over that person calling him racist.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
LMN ok…ha ha…I’ve never heard the expression “sparke” on the TV. That must be the super cool version that I’m not privy to.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
LMN
Did you see my post 88 for you?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Madsens performance?? IMO he really hasnt had a good chance to show us his skills he has good speed and nice soft hands. The only issue with him is the blocking, remember hes a converted WR so I think he will always be under utilized unless we run like a 2 tight end set
July 31st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Brien are you hinting to the Trilateral Commission and it’s Zionist tendencies?? LOL………just kidding….IRONY.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
CopenhagenFan…
305… lol, yeah its surprising how detachment, can open ones eyes =)
July 31st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
or sarcasm in English….
July 31st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Well Dakota……….think about it……….the league is 70 pct black so that comment wouldnt really hold water. But in some cases with black coaches it might make the difference. For many years blacks were denied or cut in favor or a white guy…..as I said the history here in too painful to deny
July 31st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
dakota= football has had racist ideals as it is anyways and you know it
July 31st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Post 304 – Thanks Bri. ANDhe hustles his rump off on every play! No Mike Williams shizz here. And that’s not race-based, that was a LAZY dude!
July 31st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
LMN I felt it as I walked the streets of Nørrebro about 8 years ago in the snow without a job and without being able to speak Danish. I felt like throwing a brick through a window….then I understood.
But of course, then I busted my ass, learned Danish and started a company instead of feeling like a total victim.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
El Dirty…
yeah I did… it was great =), apart of that it was Dutch… (and I’m a Dane)
July 31st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Brien…yeah…Jimmy The Greek hæ hæ
July 31st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
why do white fans almost always think that white guys hustle so much?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Jimmy the Greek just told the truth……that’s why they cut his chord
July 31st, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Mike Williams=POS
July 31st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Brein,
The example I used was purposefully ridiculous, but there are other examples that would fit, but if I stated them you would label me a racist…don’t you see the hypocrisy? Or have you earned the right to make racist statements without repercussions simply because you are African American??? I just want to understand why you think you can come in here and make a statement about “the great white hope” and think you can avoid being called a racist yourself.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Copenhagen………well it is true in alot of cases I must be honest LOL
July 31st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Brien…was Jimmy the Greek an expert in genetics and evolution?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Brien<———not African America………that is the stupidest term I’ve ever heard
July 31st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Copenhagen Fan…
yeah… have you ever watched, ‘Yes, Minister’ and ‘Yes, Primeminister’ if I ever going to live abroad my kids will be forced to see it as ten year olds…
July 31st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Brien..I guess they have to hustle because they have no speed? Or what? LOL get the f… outta here ha ha
July 31st, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Brein what would here prefer?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Dakota I think you need to scroll up and sreview how i said the idea comes from both sides……….
July 31st, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Perfect example of what’s wrong with the NFL rookie salary draft position number.
Mike Williams the gret one while at USC was cut today by the third NFL team he was signed to play for.
Williams came out highly ranked from college and was given a huge 13 million guaranteed contract by the Detroit Lions.
What motivation is there when your handed the keys to financial security the rest of your life, why do others strive to create a name for themselves while others fall down hard, you can include the QB from the Dischargers Ryan Leaf in this comment.
So for all you racist guys we have one white and one black who stunk up the joint.
The rookie draft picks are going to ruin the NFL until they institute a salary cap or a set wage based on your draft status similar to the NBA.
The veteran players are getting screwed, and guys who haven’t played are getting millions.
Mike Williams was asked by Kiffin and Jeff Fisher to lose weight, that’s it, how difficult as that is, it’s your only job of importance to do to play football.
Can you remember when he was cut by the Raiders, typical comment, he hinted that the drop ball last year in Tenn was a good thing, he was cut I believe a few weeks laterwhen he made that comment.
The great one’s over come the instant cash and play for respect and pride.
Don’t look any farther than Jamarcus and DMAC, they want to kick ass, money has not changed them.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Brein, but I do agree…Madsen sucks, lol.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:39 pm
LMN no I haven’t seen those shows….I watch (K)anal KBH!
July 31st, 2008 at 4:39 pm
if you think whites wouldnt be hapy to see a white guy be a top athlete afterthe stereotype of whites not being athletic enough then you are in denial…….jut like I would be in denial saying blacks dont get bent out of shape when a good white athlete comes intothe fold and they holler about the fact that he is white and all that jazz
July 31st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Copenhagen- jimmy the greek told the truth about slavery and that is fact
July 31st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
on thing you CAN’T hold against Mike Williams that he doesn’t want to play in the NFL…
Dumbed so many times, and still tried to comeback, had he been more careful with his shape, he might have had a shot as a 3′rd or 4th at some team…
July 31st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
DELL..yeaaaaaaah DMAC is proving to be a stud….at least he’s busting his butt to become a top professional. He’s all about excellence….
July 31st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Jimmy the Greek knew what was up
July 31st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Just saw the 4 game suspension for former Bengals receiver Chris Henry. We need to sign him now. He’d be instantly better than any player on the roster and if he can just keep his nose clean could be a huge help to our receiving corps.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:43 pm
for us to move forward as people of this country we can no longer lie about things we know to be true. the truth will hurt all of us but we must come to grips with it if we want to be better
July 31st, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Brien…that the slave owners “bred” slaves by matching the most physically gifted specimens? Perhaps….but it’s a large leap of faith to reach the conclusions that Jimmy the Greek made even assuming that the aforementioned assertion is correct.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
CopenhagenFan…
its a satirical show about government, made by BBC in the late 70’s, top-intelligent-humor…
Our own Primeminister in the 80’s gave a copy to all his civil servants….
thats twice as funny =)
July 31st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Brein,
Progess is being made, the Boston Celtics just won the finals with an all black finals roster! Now…if we could just work on Utah…
July 31st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Brien in agreement with you on your last comment. Let’s move forward and tell the truth. The first thing we should do is disenfranchise all of the born again rednecks who voted for Bush LOL
July 31st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
who the fu©k is jimmy the greek, some used cars salesman in jersey?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
LMN I don’t do Brit humor except for Smack The Pony LOL
July 31st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Copenhagen lol well with idiots like ludacris opening his mouth it will be hard pressed to get that accomplished
July 31st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Dakota LMAO!!!!! Utah? You are asking for too much. Boston had zero choice
July 31st, 2008 at 4:48 pm
CopenhagenFan…
Couplings, is a newer show, fantastic… saw all seasons in one weekend, and then did it the next weekend again…. so clever written…
July 31st, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Mario Henderson better step up! Looks more and more like a wasted pick everyday, we could have got a good player with that pick this year.
And Sands is the man, i like his attitude and we need him badly to stuff the run!
July 31st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
LMN
My bad
July 31st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Brien
Well said.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
international hoop players cant beat our best and that is a fact………USA will kill these olympics so badly
July 31st, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Brien…our Dream Team has gotten it’s A$$ handed to them by “inferior” talent then ha ha
Now we play zone D in the NBA…..
July 31st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Some of you guys have stated that Hartwell is done. What is that based on? The fact that his name has not come up at all, or facts?
July 31st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
LMN…who ??! ha ha
July 31st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
El Dirty…
No worries.. its a common mistake by americans… to you we speak alike, though we don’t understand eachother, and our daily life, our beliefs and politics are very alike…
As long as you don’t think Ikea s the capital of Denmark (or any country, for that matter)
July 31st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
All you Europeans look alike to me ha ha
July 31st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
oooh well, a round of poker before i will put on my Jamme-jammies… LOL (sorry Dakota)
July 31st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
lol
Ikea sucks… I have bought 4 beds from those guys they all broke… Yeah baby!
July 31st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
thank God that Ikea is Swedish ha ha
July 31st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
El Dirty…
remember its made for slim, fit scandinavians… LOL
July 31st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
LMAO
July 31st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
July 31st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
we need Taco Bell here in Denmark
July 31st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
LMN I know you’re going out to Field’s tommorrow and engulfing a huge meal deal from KFC!
July 31st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
NATION, what is up?
I just read Mike Williams was released from tennessee today.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Thec..should we pick him up or what?
July 31st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
yuck…
i thought KFC had closed all its stores besides that at city square… its only tourists who gets off the path and ends up such horrid places… LOL =) but i’m pretty sure i’m eating a pizza tomorrow
July 31st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Nation, what it do, pimpin?
56-0, Raiders over Denver. Anyone who doesn’t think so should be at the mall shopping with their wives that day. The two of you can try on knickers together.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:24 pm
NICK sorry it’s like 2:30 in the morning here. We have brain rot…sorry.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Let’s talk about the next Ken Stabler. That’s right. One JaMarcus Russell. No difference at all between the Snake and J Russ, except that J Russ has about a 6 inch longer sock size.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:25 pm
LMN I think my single days are numbered….bad timing!
July 31st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
NICK let’s hope that Jammy thows fewer picks. Probably not if he throws left handed.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Thec
We play againts each other Week 1. PREPARE YOURSELF lol
July 31st, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Unbelievable vs a year ago ..Gallery’s FIRST called penalty during the entire TC? (or at least he hasn’t been mentioned in quite a while – 100s of plays run – no calls on Gallery) Who would thought that was even remotely possible?
Consider Henderson a blow. It really is a blow to the future, but none that can’t be overcome. Its not like he’s a busted 1st round pick QB. They would set the franchise back too many years. We can potentially get another RT in FA or draft.
On the other hand, its starting to look (at least I’m hoping it looks) like we have gained at a more valuable position – OLT. Harris is showing good improvement.
So on the margins: Gain at OLT, Gain at RG (not as many penalties), Neutral a C, Neutral at LG, Neutral now/future Loss at ORT …..I’ll say the line has improved.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Dakota
“HELLS BELLS’
July 31st, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Al Campanis can rot, too. Blacks don’t have the necessities? Too bad he didn’t stick around to see who we elected President in 2000.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:32 pm
CopenhagenFan…
with me its seems to be the opposite… I got my GF a job in London, we are going to try to work out the long distance thing… with my working hours it looks like it could work out great, being single 2 weeks, being a couple 1 week and then being single for 2 again… I have a great relation with my boss, and I know her boss, thats how she got it =) so we’ll give it a try… then I can see all the sport I want to, without any feeling of guilt =)
July 31st, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Terrapin…yeah you’re right….the left side of the line will be an improvement from last year, while the right side and center will be the same as last year. In reality I believe that Jake Grove will prove to be better than Newberry was last year, if the reports of his bulking up are true. No more head bob at the time of snap this year.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:34 pm
“Hells Bells” should be our theme song this year. Either that, or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qae_TUTeGo
July 31st, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Dell, my bad on mike williams. Yeah we should pick him up copenhagen he woud fit nicely in kiffins scheme lol
July 31st, 2008 at 5:34 pm
LMN..that sounds like a good gig.
I’ve been running around for 3 years like a madman shagging chicks, now I found one I like, but she’s moving to NYC in the near future to act so I’ll try to enjoy it while it lasts. Commitment is scary.
But I’m IN with the Raiders, win or lose. Of course I reserve the right to be critical when it applies.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Thec…Are you sure Mike Williams can take the “whole wheat” gig?
July 31st, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Well, we’re not talking football. I’ll find a Raider blog where people are talking football. Don’t want to break up your guys’ chat about England, Taco Bell, Ikea, the Village People, Erasure, and bathhouse parties. Goodbye. I’m leaving. I’ll check in later to see if things livened up a bit in here. Goodbye.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Thec
Dinner time will catch you later. And your never bad.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Speaking of the “whole wheat” approach, I think it’s great that Kiffin is involved in the diet of the players and has added a more aggressive strength and conditioning coach.
It could fix our fold in the 4th quarter with a lead D.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:38 pm
looks like the Jimmy the greek fan went away after some history/economics lesson… LOL
July 31st, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Geez Nick it’s ok to get a break sometimes a lot of us are on here all day (it’s sad)
July 31st, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Interesting conversation.
“How do you give one equal rights, without surrendering ones priviledges “
July 31st, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Here’s a nice easy tune for your guys’ conversation in here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqPpbqSnAI
See you guys later tonight, and I say “guys” hastily.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:40 pm
NICK on that note, I think I’ll head to the Amigo Sauna
July 31st, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Don’t bend down to pick up the salsa.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Has anything happened today in camp? I heard Kiffin is running the show. Setting the tempo. Taking complete control. Heard the team is really starting to buy into his system. Of course, this all means he’ll be in Tampa next year.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:58 pm
hells bells
July 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
With the Donkeys officially releasing Lynch on Friday, who thinks Al will bring him in?
July 31st, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Not sure on lynch…. I would not want to waste a roster spot on him. We have wilson, he is a man hitter.
lynch would be a good mentor. heard sd, and detroit were looking.
July 31st, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Kiff will be with the NATION as long as he wants to.
July 31st, 2008 at 6:22 pm
gotta go grub, is the draft automatic?
July 31st, 2008 at 6:22 pm
El Dirty is the draft automatic?
July 31st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Thec
it is if ur not there but on draft day u log on and u can choose ur own players
July 31st, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Fresh Copenhagen, a pinch between the cheek and gum…None of that p***y Skoal s**t. Fargas will beast this year and Selvin young will have exaztly 68 yards on Monday night…Kiffin needs to grab an OT QUICKLY!!! Remember Jamarcus’ last play last year…No protection from the blind side-what a nightmare!
July 31st, 2008 at 6:29 pm
exaztly=exactly
July 31st, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Brein,swim class starts at 7pm,jacka-s
July 31st, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Is there a pm practice today (and accompanying blog entry)? Apologies if this has already been discussed..
July 31st, 2008 at 7:28 pm
I think this is the longest no one has posted a comment… its like a twilight zone… NYC I don’t know I looked and didn’t see anything.
July 31st, 2008 at 7:32 pm
yeah, but that stuff was covered hours ago.
July 31st, 2008 at 7:54 pm
# Thec Says:
July 31st, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Kiff will be with the NATION as long as he wants to.
……
That’s obviously not true, because he’s here now.
July 31st, 2008 at 7:55 pm
# El Dirty Says:
July 31st, 2008 at 7:28 pm
I think this is the longest no one has posted a comment… its like a twilight zone… NYC I don’t know I looked and didn’t see anything
……
People looked at their calendars and realized it’s still July, and went to the beach.
July 31st, 2008 at 7:56 pm
RaiderDell…..
Finised w/ chow yet?????
July 31st, 2008 at 8:01 pm
corp NYC….
Yes there is. Everyday. Tonight 7:00-9:00 p.m PDT.
Jerry, has been pretty good about, giving us our FIX, within a hour, from the end of practice.
Tune in @ 12:30 a.m EDT….
July 31st, 2008 at 8:05 pm
***finisHed**….errrrrrr…..
July 31st, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Al Davis=god!!!!
July 31st, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Pat Bowlen=greedy cheating bastard who has been on the NFL financing committee………you wonder what teams have won the SB since the salary cap was introduced? Go look who has been on those committees the truth shall set you
July 31st, 2008 at 8:13 pm
909
Are you out there.
July 31st, 2008 at 8:13 pm
FREEEEEEEEEEEEE
July 31st, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Hope the following hasn’t been re-hashed, but todays newspaper in Riverside ran some NFL notes. This one should be of interest to us as it should help our defense.
RULE CHANGES AIDS DEFENSE:
The elimination of the “force out rule” will be a big help to defensive backs. (Bill, “the cheater,” Bilicheck said.) He also said: “Now I think there is a little bit more opportunity for the defender to play the man as opposed to the ball and just try to knock the player out of bounds, rather than knock the ball loose.”
In the past, if a receiver caught the ball and was shoved out of bounds before landing with both feet in play, the official could award a catch if he judged the receiver would have got both feet in if the defensive back hadn’t forced him out.
Now a receiver must get both feet in bounds and have possession of the ball for it to be a catch. “It changes the way you’re going to play the sidelines,” Fernando Bryant, Patriots corner back, said: “Now you can be more aggressive.”
I would think that this rule change should help us big time, with Hall, Aso, Wilson, Huff, etc.
July 31st, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Riverside it outta help out. I mean it cant hurt the defense. Bt its a two edge sword because now we cant get the force out catch on offense
July 31st, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Brien Says:
July 31st, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Riverside it outta help out. I mean it cant hurt the defense. Bt its a two edge sword because now we cant get the force out catch on offense
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and you think this hurts us….
…
…
hahahahahahahahahahahaha…
man, you had me going there…
July 31st, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Rule of thumb: Rules changes are never designed to help the Raiders. And usually when the league finds out that it does, they change it again.
July 31st, 2008 at 8:33 pm
yo Dakota you got any shakira 4 your boy? BTW catching a flight 2 denver on sunday my buddies are picking me up 7 takeing me back to SD 4 the rally!!!!
July 31st, 2008 at 8:34 pm
i’m reading that Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the Rams…
July 31st, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Im far from a conspiracy theroist but can any one tell me if there has been a tuck rule ruling since that snow job.
July 31st, 2008 at 8:36 pm
S&Bchef
did you get that new car? I tried brother
July 31st, 2008 at 8:38 pm
I’m still waiting,
But good lookin though
July 31st, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Overall, especially with our man-to-man coverage, our bump and run, etc., I do believe that it will help us more than hinder us. We’re on top of those receivers and on a close pattern where we’re smothering the receiver, we can now bang or slam him out of bounds. In a zone defense, I don’t think it would matter as much? And, we don’t play any zone that I know of.
I also would “like to believe” that rule changes have nothing to do with any specific team. But, then with our history, you never really know. I wonder what Kiffin thinks on the rule change?
July 31st, 2008 at 8:40 pm
excuse me pete? i didnt quite get that. i use to live in florida so i know how the humidity affects the brain……come again
July 31st, 2008 at 8:41 pm
If you ask and recieve the next J.Mac post I will be expecting at least a three digit number for tomorrow’s lottos number.
July 31st, 2008 at 8:42 pm
nick bell interesting concept
July 31st, 2008 at 8:44 pm
rush limbaugh to buy the rams? well no black people will be allowed in the facility
July 31st, 2008 at 8:44 pm
F it i’m playin 408 for the rest of the week.
July 31st, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Brien, At least Quarterbacks anyway
July 31st, 2008 at 8:46 pm
lol well tony babks did suck
July 31st, 2008 at 8:46 pm
banks
July 31st, 2008 at 8:47 pm
cant go wrong with that altho it hasent been working lately =(
July 31st, 2008 at 8:48 pm
think rush limbaugh will find it un-american to adhere to the rooney rule?lol
July 31st, 2008 at 8:49 pm
EndZoner, post #164:
For years and years now I have heard excuse after excuse for Seabass, but the truth of the matter is that he can’t make the winning kick. When the game is on the line, or a situation that can turn the game to our favor, he’ll miss the kick. Usually has, usually will. But Seabass can walk around a night clubs parking lot at 1:30 am and kick off the “rear, side view, mirrors” on the cars parked there.
The excuse there was that those were his volka drinking days but that that’s behind him now. His fat belly tells me he still drinks, and drinks heavy. HOPE I’M WRONG and that he WINS a few games this year.
July 31st, 2008 at 8:50 pm
I have never wrote one of these but due to all of your interesting and funny statements I am inspired. I have been very skeptical of the raiders and I have been the biggest Raider fan i could be. but I have read all the other teams camp notes and i am trying to be as unbiased as possible, and I believe that the Oakland Raiders have the most interesting and possitive camp in the AFC west. has anyone else been reading all the afc west teams notes? and if so what do you think? I think we look the cleanest and strongest!
July 31st, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Riverside, trust me your not the only one that thinks that when it comes to clutch time he’s unreliable, the team had to wait an extra day to splurge on dinner cause he shanked one
July 31st, 2008 at 8:56 pm
sd=rivers and gates injury issues…..missing lofton at wr coach
kc=trash at its lowest level. overrated draft
den= in trouble the dline is trash and the offense lacks true weapons outside of mcdee’s wrapper marshall
July 31st, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Was his dinner at the Chop House, that was awesome, $2,500 worth of food and fine wines? Or, was he in on the Mexican food that made some of them a little woozie?
July 31st, 2008 at 8:59 pm
brein=moron/brian=tamad=walang silbi/dumb ass!!!
July 31st, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Surgeon,
I listen to alot of sports radio and unfortunetly stuck in the KITCHEN I’m stuck listening to bspn and heard John Clayton say the Raiders were one of his sleeper teams on Cowherd and an hour later on Turico and Van Pelt they gave the Dolphins a win against us at home. So dont buy into anything right now.
July 31st, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Jerry, practice was over 52 seconds ago. Wheres your post for the pm practice.
Honestly, thanks for all the info on our Raiders, much appreciated. Hopefully we’ll see your post by 10 bells.
July 31st, 2008 at 9:02 pm
He probably spent most of his time at the BAR, lol
But the Defense went to the Chop House. It wasant recorded where the spec team went
July 31st, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Aw Fremont Hub are you upset?
July 31st, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Dont fret child, your city has a chance to be known for once when the A’s leave Oakland. You will have a pro team there but will still be known ass soft………..cheer up
July 31st, 2008 at 9:08 pm
oh,I see you missed swim class,would not have helped anyway!Right FR
July 31st, 2008 at 9:10 pm
swim class? that was dry
July 31st, 2008 at 9:12 pm
at least be funny in your futile attempts please. be a worthy opponent
July 31st, 2008 at 9:12 pm
RRF
you know what Im talkin bout!! Jerry’s been taking like 1 1/2 to 3 hours to give us our fix l8ly!! Freaking guy LOL
July 31st, 2008 at 9:13 pm
OK OK play nice, although the thought of infield dirt not hampering Jano kicks is not to bad
July 31st, 2008 at 9:15 pm
The kc chiefs are full of holes and the donkeys have cut everyone that might have been an influence. kcs’ training camp sounds like ours during the Shell days. and the donkeys are all talk even on their own website. It was so hard for me to read all the biased news that those tools had to write. but after reading I am so much more confident the silver and black! I think Kiffens tough regiment will do us alot of good compared to all those other rebuild posers!
July 31st, 2008 at 9:15 pm
yo b
let freakmont slide on this 1 its all bay!! east bay 4 that matter altho freakmont gets no respect kinda like milpitas in the 408 ya dig
July 31st, 2008 at 9:17 pm
milpitas is worth my time over fremont. fremont is on edge of the east bay…….you can take them in the 408
July 31st, 2008 at 9:18 pm
im telling you guys SD is in much peril these days. the media dont want to report it
July 31st, 2008 at 9:20 pm
new thread
July 31st, 2008 at 9:21 pm
what peril do you speak of Brien?
July 31st, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Surgeon,
I could be wrong but i think the difference between Kiff is he understands players, thats why he installed lights to split practices and preserve players, Thats why they play hard for him. We lost alot of close ones but were always in it because the team never gave in.
July 31st, 2008 at 9:24 pm
rivers knee is not healthy and wont be in 08…….gates is hurt……..lofton gone hurts that WR unit……..jamal williams is old and done…….you cant be serious with norv. LT got bout 2 years left his body is worn
July 31st, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Jerry, please Tell us that Kiffin was only trying to motivate Henderson and that it worked. That he showed sand and grit in the pm practice, that some of Gibril’s
“just kick ass and punish” attitude rubbed off on Mario and he had an excellent pm practice. We can’t afford to hear about another “bust” draft pick, especially in his second year, and more importantly, because it concerns our weakest position on offensive.
Al, quick, pickup someone, pay the bucks and just do it!
July 31st, 2008 at 9:26 pm
SandBchef,
I tried to go back and look at last years camp notes and nothing as fluid as this year. It is hard for me to say but I am very excited about this year. I hope I don’t get burned like the Turner years! O line thats it. with a such a good secondary i don’t have to worry about the run d so much. the o line is very scary
July 31st, 2008 at 9:33 pm
The Surgeon
Monday we’ll get our first look, though small and not game like in situation, at least against another team where we can smack a few faces around. Can’t wait for the first pre-season, just to see the indicators of who will make the 53 man cut.
July 31st, 2008 at 9:36 pm
BREIN,i just dont see you able to finish swim class,after all,65% DONT! Maybe you cant see,or reason,period!nite to ya all(trolls inc)
July 31st, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Tks 909, El Dirty..
August 1st, 2008 at 12:03 am
Thanks from all the military serving overseas. This is the only site that I can get on to find out how our soon to be World Champion Raiders are doing in training camp. McFadden = MVP.
August 1st, 2008 at 4:39 pm
How does McQ end up a back up on the left side and Green starts?
Stop the insanity train…
Keep bringing it Coop.
Law Firm of Morrison, Howard and Brown.
August 1st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
SilverNBlk, -DAVIS senile? I don’t see it…unless you qualify normal aging declines as senile…I do not think that qualifies as senility by anyone that has been around older people. In other words, Davis’ analytical skills are still sharp. He may forget mundane things, those are quite unimportant to decision making, which requires experience and ability to draw from such as well as the ability to analyze and compare competing alternatives.
To me Davis has more ability to make good decisions than those surrounding him in the past few years, including Kiffin. So where we would be this season had Davis not stepped in this off-season and taken control?
August 1st, 2008 at 9:29 pm
fellow raider fans, we are going to have another horrible season. I can’t believe kiffin is bagging on mario. How about gallery? he has been a pathetic player since day one. How come they haven’t cut this idiot? He caused alot of false starts, holding, and sacks. They need to get rid of this bum! Our defense line is a joke…Kelly and Sands? the two worst DT in the league. I can’t believe they didn’t bring anyone in to compete for the job. We need some fat run stoppers. These two guys get pushed around like little bitches. Coach ryan needs to get kicked out of oakland.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Everything seems to improving a little except what many of us have been concerned about..Which is
Harris,Gallery, Center?, Carlisle, and Green. How long can Kiffin wait until he attempts to work on the problem. This could get real ugly if they go with the current starters.Harris,Gallery and Green still jumping. = lack of self-discipline.
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