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Training camp, Day 8 (A.M. practice)

Quick hits from Thursday morning’s practice:

– He may not have had his best fastball, but JaMarcus Russell was felt good enough to rejoin practice and make due with off-speed stuff, choosing to simply flick his wrist rather than unleash the full power of his $60 million right arm.

In his first team session, Russell completed two of five passes, one a short pass to Johnnie Lee Higgins and a dump-off to fullback Oren O’Neal. Michael Huff broke up a sideline pass intended for tight end Darrell Strong, a screen to Louis Rankin fell incomplete and Derrick Burgess pressured him into an incomplete pass.

In Russell’s second team session, there were two more short completions.

During seven-on-seven drills, Russell was the victim of a perfectly-played pick by Nnamdi Asomugha, who stole a pass intended for Arman Shields in stride and ran the other for what would have been a touchdown.

“You can see a little bit of a velocity issue with him right now, different from normal,” Kiffin said. “I think that will go away here pretty soon.”

Kiffin said the staff watched Russell closely and that trainer Rod Martin gave the go-ahead to continue.

Russell acknowledged he wasn’t 100 percent but wasn’t comfortable watching from the sidelines.

“I just wanted to get out here today just so I could get back in practice,” Russell said. “I don’t really like sitting out and watching guys bust their behinds when I can be out there doing something. Just anything out there I can help.”

– Right guard Cooper Carlisle and right tackle Cornell Green were given the morning session off, with the Raiders reshuffling their line to accomodate the absence of two starters. Seth Wand got some work at right tackle, Chris Morris at right guard, and Mario Henderson has been working on both sides.

– Speaking of Henderson, it sounds as if Kiffin’s patience has about run out on the first of three third-round picks in the 2007 draft. During the offseason, Kiffin said the Raiders were working on Henderson’s lack of aggression and his passion for football.

It sounds like Kiffin and line coach Tom Cable haven’t made much headway. Rather than shift into coach-speak when asked if Henderson was challenging Green at right tackle, Kiffin was blunt and to the point.

“No, he’s not pushing him. We’ll continue to move Mario around to both sides,” Kiffin said. “Mario is not improving the way we’d like him to so we’ll just continue to push him. But it’s not close right now.”

When asked if Henderson needed to shore up a particular area, Kiffin said, “No, it’s everything right now. Unfortunately.”

– Sounds like Javon Walker, the free agent aquisition whose salary suggests he is the No. 1 receiver but whose practice play has been so-so, will begin getting some extra work starting Monday.

Kiffin said Walker and Fred Wakefield, rehabbing from a knee injury, would begin working twice per day Sunday when the 49ers visit Napa.

When asked if Walker was making progress, Kiffin said, “There’s progress being made. I wouldn’t say as much as I’d like at this point so we’re going to continue to push them. I think pushing him back into two-a-days will help him.”

– Defensive tackle Gerard Warren missed with a thigh injury sustained Wednesday night. Kiffin said he didn’t think the injury was as serious as one that hampered Warren last year and said he was day-to-day. Tommy Kelly sat out as scheduled and should practice tonight. Cornerback John Bowie (knee) did not practice.

Safety Greg Wesley (back spasms) was back at practice but did little of note.

– Defensive tackle Terdell Sands, who has avoided speaking with reporters for the first week of camp for reasons that ranged from a team meal to a team meeting to a doctor’s visit, stopped and chatted for a few minutes.

He conceded to being in better condition this year and was affected last season by the death of his mother.

“I lost my mother last year, so that was very big,” Sands said. “You lose anything like that, some things take tolls on you. You lose things that are aspects of life right there. That’s behind me. I’ve got to push on this year.”

Sands said he takes responsibility for the Raiders’ run defense in 2008.

“I take it all, because they look for me to be a big part of it,” Sands said. “And like I say, I wasn’t mentally in it, so I did some gap responsibility and all my true effort wasn’t out there. I thought I was. But when I watch film, it really wasn’t like I was the year before. So I take responsibility and put it on myself.”

Sands declined to specify how much he weighed last year and how much he weighs now.

– Kiffin has taken to visiting with members of the Raiders’ personnel department occasionally during practice sessions. Wednesday it was Bruce Kebric, Thursday it was Kent McCloughan.

– Defensive tackle William Joseph was worked over by Chris Morris and Jesse Boone on consecutive plays during a blocking drill. Kwame Harris buried Kalimba Edwards on another.

– McFadden was fielding kickoffs along with Hiram Eugene, Rankin, Adimchinobe Echemandu and Tyvon Branch, prompting Kiffin to be asked whether the Raiders’ biggest off-season investment might be utilized on that role.

“He’s such an explosive player that it’s something we have to look at,” Kiffin said. “Part of that will be determined by how the other returners do. Let’s say Branch in preseason is returning great. Then it’s not worth it. If you have a great return situation to put Darren out there that may not be worth it. If we’re struggling, then it becomes more valuable to us.”

Said McFadden, who has been in camp eight days and has had a sunny and agreeable disposition for every one of them: “I don’t know if they’re going to use me back there or not but I’m always prepared for it.”

– Practice joggers for pre-snap violations included Harris, Robert Gallery, tight end Chris Wagner and defensive end Greyson Gunheim.

Gunheim, an undrafted free agent from Washington, actually protested his lap, telling Kiffin that Henderson had first moved his leg, drawing him offsides. Gunheim was right, by the way.

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  • La Milicia Negra

    CopenhagenFan…

    nej, jeg mente: “jeg smider/sparker lige noget tv på”

    I’m watching last nights Colbert Report on my old xbox =)

  • PhillyRaider

    The issue isn’t white or black. If none of those WR’s got hands (after the projected top 3-4) then yeah, shift Madsen’s azz to WR and take one of these young studs as the 2nd TE. You gotta admit Madsen doesn’t drop shizz!!

  • Brien

    This is the United States and if you think race doesn’t matter why are we talking about it? They aren’t as much in other places……..we got a bad track record that is too dirty to clean up apparently. I don’t like it because I know some great white folks who don’t deserve any bad treatment and know some black guys that should get a coward’s death

  • Brien

    Philly Madsen does have good hands

  • CopenhagenFan

    Moving to Denmark has allowed me to have a very small insight into how the typical African American possibly could feel in the USA.

    You can’t pinpoint it, you can’t prove it, but the MAN is working behind the scenes to bring you down LOL

  • vegas raider

    I think the reason everyone loves Madsen so much, is when he has done something ( which hasn’t been that often) he has made it look so easy and smooth. The two catches against San Diego two years ago looked great, but he never did anything again.

  • La Milicia Negra

    Huff24…

    our situations then is very alike… well we about same age…

    I just remember one of the good ole regulars when I first joined this site, just became a father then… thought it was you…

  • Brien

    The man is working behind the scenes against everyone…………i.e. the Federal Reserve….the real slave master

  • Dakota

    Brein,

    It is a double standard and you know it…if a white guy got on here and said something about a player only making a team because he was black you would be all over that person calling him racist.

  • CopenhagenFan

    LMN ok…ha ha…I’ve never heard the expression “sparke” on the TV. That must be the super cool version that I’m not privy to.

  • El Dirty

    LMN

    Did you see my post 88 for you?

  • pantiesniffer

    Madsens performance?? IMO he really hasnt had a good chance to show us his skills he has good speed and nice soft hands. The only issue with him is the blocking, remember hes a converted WR so I think he will always be under utilized unless we run like a 2 tight end set

  • CopenhagenFan

    Brien are you hinting to the Trilateral Commission and it’s Zionist tendencies?? LOL………just kidding….IRONY.

  • La Milicia Negra

    CopenhagenFan…

    305… lol, yeah its surprising how detachment, can open ones eyes =)

  • CopenhagenFan

    or sarcasm in English….

  • Brien

    Well Dakota……….think about it……….the league is 70 pct black so that comment wouldnt really hold water. But in some cases with black coaches it might make the difference. For many years blacks were denied or cut in favor or a white guy…..as I said the history here in too painful to deny

  • Brien

    dakota= football has had racist ideals as it is anyways and you know it

  • PhillyRaider

    Post 304 – Thanks Bri. ANDhe hustles his rump off on every play! No Mike Williams shizz here. And that’s not race-based, that was a LAZY dude!

  • CopenhagenFan

    LMN I felt it as I walked the streets of Nørrebro about 8 years ago in the snow without a job and without being able to speak Danish. I felt like throwing a brick through a window….then I understood.

    But of course, then I busted my ass, learned Danish and started a company instead of feeling like a total victim.

  • La Milicia Negra

    El Dirty…

    yeah I did… it was great =), apart of that it was Dutch… (and I’m a Dane)

  • CopenhagenFan

    Brien…yeah…Jimmy The Greek hæ hæ

  • CopenhagenFan

    why do white fans almost always think that white guys hustle so much?

  • Brien

    Jimmy the Greek just told the truth……that’s why they cut his chord

  • Brien

    Mike Williams=POS

  • Dakota

    Brein,

    The example I used was purposefully ridiculous, but there are other examples that would fit, but if I stated them you would label me a racist…don’t you see the hypocrisy? Or have you earned the right to make racist statements without repercussions simply because you are African American??? I just want to understand why you think you can come in here and make a statement about “the great white hope” and think you can avoid being called a racist yourself.

  • Brien

    Copenhagen………well it is true in alot of cases I must be honest LOL

  • CopenhagenFan

    Brien…was Jimmy the Greek an expert in genetics and evolution?

  • Brien

    Brien<———not African America………that is the stupidest term I’ve ever heard

  • La Milicia Negra

    Copenhagen Fan…

    yeah… have you ever watched, ‘Yes, Minister’ and ‘Yes, Primeminister’ if I ever going to live abroad my kids will be forced to see it as ten year olds…

  • CopenhagenFan

    Brien..I guess they have to hustle because they have no speed? Or what? LOL get the f… outta here ha ha

  • Dakota

    Brein what would here prefer?

  • Brien

    Dakota I think you need to scroll up and sreview how i said the idea comes from both sides……….

  • Raider Dell

    Perfect example of what’s wrong with the NFL rookie salary draft position number.

    Mike Williams the gret one while at USC was cut today by the third NFL team he was signed to play for.

    Williams came out highly ranked from college and was given a huge 13 million guaranteed contract by the Detroit Lions.

    What motivation is there when your handed the keys to financial security the rest of your life, why do others strive to create a name for themselves while others fall down hard, you can include the QB from the Dischargers Ryan Leaf in this comment.

    So for all you racist guys we have one white and one black who stunk up the joint.

    The rookie draft picks are going to ruin the NFL until they institute a salary cap or a set wage based on your draft status similar to the NBA.

    The veteran players are getting screwed, and guys who haven’t played are getting millions.

    Mike Williams was asked by Kiffin and Jeff Fisher to lose weight, that’s it, how difficult as that is, it’s your only job of importance to do to play football.

    Can you remember when he was cut by the Raiders, typical comment, he hinted that the drop ball last year in Tenn was a good thing, he was cut I believe a few weeks laterwhen he made that comment.

    The great one’s over come the instant cash and play for respect and pride.

    Don’t look any farther than Jamarcus and DMAC, they want to kick ass, money has not changed them.

  • Dakota

    Brein, but I do agree…Madsen sucks, lol.

  • CopenhagenFan

    LMN no I haven’t seen those shows….I watch (K)anal KBH!

  • Brien

    if you think whites wouldnt be hapy to see a white guy be a top athlete afterthe stereotype of whites not being athletic enough then you are in denial…….jut like I would be in denial saying blacks dont get bent out of shape when a good white athlete comes intothe fold and they holler about the fact that he is white and all that jazz

  • Brien

    Copenhagen- jimmy the greek told the truth about slavery and that is fact

  • La Milicia Negra

    on thing you CAN’T hold against Mike Williams that he doesn’t want to play in the NFL…

    Dumbed so many times, and still tried to comeback, had he been more careful with his shape, he might have had a shot as a 3′rd or 4th at some team…

  • CopenhagenFan

    DELL..yeaaaaaaah DMAC is proving to be a stud….at least he’s busting his butt to become a top professional. He’s all about excellence….

  • Brien

    Jimmy the Greek knew what was up

  • The Snake

    Just saw the 4 game suspension for former Bengals receiver Chris Henry. We need to sign him now. He’d be instantly better than any player on the roster and if he can just keep his nose clean could be a huge help to our receiving corps.

  • Brien

    for us to move forward as people of this country we can no longer lie about things we know to be true. the truth will hurt all of us but we must come to grips with it if we want to be better

  • CopenhagenFan

    Brien…that the slave owners “bred” slaves by matching the most physically gifted specimens? Perhaps….but it’s a large leap of faith to reach the conclusions that Jimmy the Greek made even assuming that the aforementioned assertion is correct.

  • La Milicia Negra

    CopenhagenFan…

    its a satirical show about government, made by BBC in the late 70′s, top-intelligent-humor…

    Our own Primeminister in the 80′s gave a copy to all his civil servants….

    thats twice as funny =)

  • Dakota

    Brein,

    Progess is being made, the Boston Celtics just won the finals with an all black finals roster! Now…if we could just work on Utah…

  • CopenhagenFan

    Brien in agreement with you on your last comment. Let’s move forward and tell the truth. The first thing we should do is disenfranchise all of the born again rednecks who voted for Bush LOL

  • La Milicia Negra

    who the fu©k is jimmy the greek, some used cars salesman in jersey?

  • CopenhagenFan

    LMN I don’t do Brit humor except for Smack The Pony LOL

  • Brien

    Copenhagen lol well with idiots like ludacris opening his mouth it will be hard pressed to get that accomplished

  • Brien

    Dakota LMAO!!!!! Utah? You are asking for too much. Boston had zero choice