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Wesley cut

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 11th, 2008 at 2:42 pm in Oakland Raiders, Preseason (2005), Raiders features, Training Camp 2006.

Whether the Raiders utilize Adam Archuleta at linebacker or safety remains to be seen, but they cut a safety to make room for him.

Greg Wesley, omitted from the morning roster but on the field, was released later in the day, according to a league source.

UPDATE: The Raiders have updated Archuleta’s signing and the release of Wesley on their Web site.

It’s also an even swap in terms of salary. Archuleta, should he make the 53-man roster, will make the same $730,000 that Wesley was to receive. Kiffin danced around the topic of Wesley’s status following practice.

“I don’t know that yet. He did move around well today,” Kiffin said. “Had a good workout the day before that but I don’t know that yet.”

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381 Responses to “Wesley cut”

  1. Dakota Says:

    Hi Jerry!

  2. Dakota Says:

    Wesley was worth the risk, and at the same price, so is Archuleta. Let that new S&C guy put some LBS on him.

  3. BHPbayarea Says:

    Archuleta’s washed up…Hell go sign another Bronco, go get Lynch!!!!

  4. Dakota Says:

    Is it just you and me Jerry? I think we did this once before and I got the first 9 or 11 posts that day! Should we go for 12?

  5. Dakota Says:

    DANG IT!

  6. BHPbayarea Says:

    Seriously, Lynch makes sense…he’s a leader in everyway and would be an excellent influence on our backfield. Why not, he’d be cheap and good…

  7. 408RAIDER Says:

    Hey Jerry

    I owe you a few beers 4 all ur hard work!! Keep it up

  8. Dakota Says:

    Lynch didn’t want to be in Denver because he was being phased out, why do you think he would want to come to Oakland to back up Huff and Wilson?

  9. BHPbayarea Says:

    Because he felt he was lied to by Denver…that’s why?

  10. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota..

    yeah for 700K I take a look at a former 1st rounder anytime..

    Yup, Brad Roll, he is worth his weight in gold.. he is this years Cable if you will =)

  11. BHPbayarea Says:

    What better way to get’em back…you really dont see that? Really?

  12. 408RAIDER Says:

    Damn MR was trolling hard on the last thread.. oh well he was being good for a few days I guess thats his limit.. LOL

  13. RAIDERSTUD Says:

    What is perfectly clear is that Kiffen is trying to push Al to make a deal…obvious deal is…..acquire lynch……….not so obvious deal pack up a RB and/or D lineman and get me another legitimate wide reciever so Russel can actually use his arm…..and Kiffen can actually use his passing plays………..its clear to me…….

  14. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    Too bad Roll couldn’t have gotten his hands on Archuleta in May and packed some LBS on him for his transition from S to OLB. Then maybe this would have been a great move. But this late in the game I doubt it will work.

  15. 408RAIDER Says:

    BHPbayarea

    R u another blach hole priest? Or whats the bhp stand for?

  16. Scottish Raider Says:

    Rolling over:

    Dick, most of the better FAs are now signed but Kiffin is just signalling that he wants our HR department to be ready and active when the other teams start trimming their rosters. This is a pre-emptive strike by Kiff.

    Wesley was never fit. Irons is on last chance. Bowie is almost toast. Darrick Brown, Echemandu, Gray, Jackson, McFoy, James, Strong, Wagner and probably Rodd are all no-hopers. We have plenty of room to cut and trial.

  17. BHPbayarea Says:

    Wesley’s actually better than Archuleta. Have you watched him w/bears? He acts as if he’s stoned.

  18. Dakota Says:

    BHPBA,

    I can see that, but at his age revenge is probably not a major motivating factor. He wants to play and win; neither of which are guaranteed with the Raiders. But, I can see him going to the Chargers…

  19. BHPbayarea Says:

    My intials are actually bhp? Why?

  20. 408RAIDER Says:

    Im askin you… with all due respect..

  21. BHPbayarea Says:

    Yeah, the age thing’s a problem. However, the revenge factor would be strong for both he and Al? Either way they can stick to the freakin donks… Shanarat lied again…what else is new?

  22. BHPbayarea Says:

    Not a prob 408…What’s up?

  23. 909raiderlifer Says:

    They’re has to be some better quality re-treads in the UFA market, than this Archuleta. He is at lil’ puss Stu’s level, in coverage. i.e. pizzpoor.

    He USED to be able to tackle.

    Big AL, has to do better than this…

  24. 408RAIDER Says:

    My bad I get it now LOL :P !

    Theres another guy in here that goes by Black Hole Priest.. we call him BHP 4 short!! Its all good..

    RAIDER ON

  25. BHPbayarea Says:

    Thnx 4 headsup dude…geez bro,I’ll change it. That’s messed up. Raiders’ 4ever

  26. Raiders Rain Says:

    When you post first! You’re not really first, you’re only first when you’ve actually read the article.

  27. 408RAIDER Says:

    YEP RAIDERS 4ever

  28. Scottish Raider Says:

    Archuleta apparantly ran a 4.55 40-yard dash and did 38 repetitions of 225-pound bench press at his medical this morning. Not quick enough? Not strong enough?

    I think he is a seriously sensible, risk-free pick-up. We just need more and more competition.

  29. Rick The Hunter Says:

    Im actually not too upset about signing Archuleta. He’s younger than Wesly so we may be able to squeeze a few years out of him, plus Wesly just didnt seem to be healthy enough to stay on the field anyway. Archuleta may serve as a pretty good back up, and could probably make a few good plays on special teams. Let’s just hope for God’s sake he doesnt turnout to be the second-coming of Stuart Schweigert.
    YA KNOW?!

  30. BHPbayarea Says:

    Well may be…but he just looks “out of it”. Like he’s seriously on some nasty *&*&

  31. K-Rock Says:

    Repost from last thread…

    RaiderKen, the Raiders haven’t won a Super Bowl in 25 years. And since then, I doubt our record is much better than SD’s. Heck, is it even better in that time span? I think they might have won more games. I think we’re below .500 over the past quarter century. Get your head out of the past. It’s 2008.

    ………………………………………

    From 83 to 2002 the Raiders were 166-137 with 5 division chapionship and 1 AFC championship. They had 2 AFC championship game losses and 1 Super Bowl loss as well.

    Then with the current 5 year bottom feeding run, the Raiders record has fallen to 185-198.

    You were correct. The Raiders are below .500 since the 83 Super Bowl thanks to the last 5 years of misery.

    The Chargers, however, DO NOT have a better record than the Raiders over this span.

    Chargers are 177-206 with 5 division championships, 1 AFC championship. They also have 1 AFC chapionship loss and 1 Super Bowl loss

    So the Raiders have won 8 more games since 83 and they have been to the playoffs more times with a better playoff winning % than the Chargers.

  32. McRaider Says:

    Ezekial posted,

    RaiderKen, the Raiders haven’t won a Super Bowl in 25 years. And since then, I doubt our record is much better than SD’s. Heck, is it even better in that time span? I think they might have won more games. I think we’re below .500 over the past quarter century. Get your head out of the past. It’s 2008.

    Here are the record

    Raiders 185 wins 198 Loses
    Playoff- 8 times
    AFC Championship appearances 3
    Superbowl Appearances 1
    Season with 10 or more loses 7

    Chargers 177 Wins 206 Loses
    Playoff Appearances- 6
    AFC Championship appearances- 2
    Superbowl Appearances- 1
    Season with 10 or more loses 10

  33. BHPbayarea Says:

    Raider’s rule!AFC West IS the badest, and here’s to a warm afternoon in Tampa in Jan..

  34. Dakota Says:

    Chargers suck!

  35. los angeles raiders Says:

    what are the pros and cons on archuleta when talking about his skill, im not too familer with the guy , I just remember he played for the rams

  36. El Dirty Says:

    He cant cover worth a damn and is always hurt because he hit like a semi!

  37. BHPbayarea Says:

    Dudes, I’m in the STL right now. Im displaced but been here for 7 years. I watched Archuleta play his best and worst. Im just keepin it real boyz, but the dude’s not right! NO one even talks about him in the STL anymore.

    Besides that, the freaking chargers have been good lately. Why all the Charger crap? They’re good now, but just wait. Im guessing they’re a 10 win team at best…

  38. MoteLLparty Says:

    his tackling was his highset…but since the STL cut, its a question mark all around it seems

    he was subpar in pass coverage to begin with

  39. Quagmire'd Says:

    I know at least one team that would love to acquire Lil Huggy—the Donkeys.

    Would any of you make that trade?

  40. MoteLLparty Says:

    are you insane???

  41. BHPbayarea Says:

    Quags, Im saying “Yup”! I think one of their draft studs went down for the count. They’re running looked for **** against Houston. My guess is yes that would. You mean for draft picks…right?

  42. McRaider Says:

    Quagmire’d Posted:

    Would any of you make that trade?

    He!! NO!

    They would have to give us champ bailey and their best left Tackle

  43. Midwest fan Says:

    Was getting into it with a broncs fan last night. Anyone know what our alltime series is at?

  44. El Dirty Says:

    Quag
    I would make that trade for Marshall/ Wait no I wouldn’t…

  45. BHPbayarea Says:

    No way McRaider…They love “Chump” so much they’re trying to sign the whole bailey family over there?

  46. MoteLLparty Says:

    they just drafted clady…who, actually should be good in zone blcoking but their line might be a mess

    and why get champ? aso and hall is enough

  47. BHPbayarea Says:

    Hold on now E.D..I’d take the Marshall deal. Thank you very much. I’d do it today. Dude’s got major skilz! Give him that much…

  48. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dakota WWIII? Bush dont give a ufck about Georgia…

  49. McRaider Says:

    Against the donko’s

    54 wins 39 loses and 2 ties

  50. El Dirty Says:

    He’s suspended for the first 3 games and he would be the next guy to get beat up in Vegas.

  51. La Milicia Negra Says:

    BHP Bay area

    what does your BHP stand for, are you the real BHP or what gives?

  52. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Quaqmire’d…

    Hell would freeze over, before Big Al ever would do a trade w/ the Rat….

  53. 408RAIDER Says:

    you guys are killing me with all this talk about tradeing Fargas!

  54. Dakota Says:

    408…there is a critical oil pipeline in Georgia…we are all dooooooomed!

  55. BHPbayarea Says:

    Ok LMN, for the 2nd time, it’s my “REAL” intials. I use Bay Area as Im transplanted in St. Louis, and have been for 7 years. That’s it! We cool? Dakota already filled me in on the BHP thing…

  56. Dakota Says:

    Oh sheet, sorry Putin…my bad…please do not poison me or my family.

  57. La Milicia Negra Says:

    BHP bayarea..

    okay sorry, I didn’t backlog..

  58. Vladimir Putin Says:

    Midwest fan, if you’re arguing with a Bronco fan, you’d better go into the past. There’s not much there for your arsenal in recent memory. Idiot.

  59. BHPbayarea Says:

    This aint no black hole priest thing…that’s disgusting anyway? WTF?

  60. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ST BHP..

    don’t rip on BHP, he is okay.. but he hate when I call him blackhole preacher he hates that =)

  61. 408RAIDER Says:

    Oil prices dropped again today despite that mess! Besides Football season hasen’t even started yet!!! LOL

    No It was I 408 who let ya know about the BHP thing! and 4 the record LMN is way cool & you shouldn’t chang your name but be prepared to answer that question again

  62. La Milicia Negra Says:

    vladimir putin..

    we’ll stop talking politics when the guy who controls your keyboard stop changing nicks..

  63. McRaider Says:

    oh I agree. They would never let bailey go, but for Al to trade with the Broncos, they would have to give up their best player and some.

  64. Vladimir Putin Says:

    Dakota, do you realize how much of a dork you look like right now? Everyone knows the world is a screwed up place. There’s no need to talk about it. That’s why we talk football. Ever notice that when you start talking about politics around anyone outside of your small, drunken rube redneck circle, people just cringe? Then they pretend to be nice and mockingly agree with you, just to appease you, before changing the subject? Notice how they never invite you back? Well, the same thing is happening to you here. Shut up. Leave your politics at the door. This is a RAIDERS blog!

  65. El Dirty Says:

    BUT THERE IS ONLY 1 EL DIRTY! MUUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

  66. La Milicia Negra Says:

    “No It was I 408 who let ya know about the BHP thing! and 4 the record LMN is way cool & you shouldn’t chang your name but be prepared to answer that question again”

    LOL yeah maybe even several times to the same guys =)

  67. BHPbayarea Says:

    LMN…there is really a black hole priest? I thought Dakota was saying those you guys referred to somebody in the room whose was frontin using that name? Damn…ok…TY LMN

  68. La Milicia Negra Says:

    El Dirty..

    true =) and thank god for that LOL jk, how many red bulls have heaved down today? =)

  69. Dakota Says:

    I gotta go dig a shelter….later fools.

    When I am safe and sound underground during the blasts and all of you are vaporized into small ash particles I will rise up and rebuild the NFL and take ownership of the Oakland Raiders!

    muhahahahaha

  70. El Dirty Says:

    LMN

    I quit… I eating salad and crap… ughh

  71. Dakota Says:

    Ummmmm, does anyone have a shovel I can barrow?

  72. La Milicia Negra Says:

    BHP bayarea..

    I’ll call you ST BHP, could be SL BHP, dunno, its nothing disrespectful in that.. its just that its easier =)

  73. BHPbayarea Says:

    LMN is way cool huh? Got it! Thnx 4 the heads-up. I’ll be ready to respond…

  74. Dakota Says:

    borrow…???

  75. La Milicia Negra Says:

    El Dirty..

    good for you, if you are healthy you can handle the abuse better, with abuse I think getting wasted =)

  76. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota..

    while you sitting down there, remember to do your chinese studies, they will come in handy when the dust settles =)

  77. El Dirty Says:

    Dakoto

    We have a force field protecting us… Didn’t you hear?

    http://www.internetweekly.org/images/bush_bubble_boy.jpg

  78. El Dirty Says:

    Dakota*

    My bad

  79. El Dirty Says:

    LMN

    Thank LOL

  80. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dirty

    how bout a flick? ur choice this time =)

    LMN 73 LOL

  81. Dakota Says:

    LMN,




    那。














    者!

  82. BHPbayarea Says:

    Dakota Dude…May the force by with ya bro!!!! Hang tight, help is on the way…lol

  83. El Dirty Says:

    http://www.bennadel.com/resources/uploads/suacy_girl_photo.jpg

  84. Dakota Says:

    Dirty,

    Oh, well then never mind! Rock on!

  85. Vladimir Putin Says:

    Ladies and gentlemen (mostly ladies), this is no longer a Raiders blog. It is now officially called the Dakota Politics blog. Enjoy. For those of you here to discuss the Raiders, please find another blog. We’re only here to discuss politics.

  86. Vladimir Putin Says:

    Shut the f’k up and stop talking politics, or I’m going to kick some ass in here.

  87. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Vlad..

    thanks, since you don’t understand pilitics no need for you to be here anymore, thanks for your time, you can go now..

    – Don’t bother responding..

  88. Dakota Says:

    I just asked that Russia delay the start of WWIII until the end of the NFL season…how is that talking politics?

  89. BHPbayarea Says:

    Dirty

    For those about to rock…Im diggin the link you flashed. Niiiiiicccccceeeee! If you gotta go, that’s the way

  90. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dirty is getting better!

    MR is haveing another melt down!

    Big AL is signing old dudes

    all’s normal!!

  91. BHPbayarea Says:

    C’mon Vlad…roll with it! Else LMN may dismiss you once again. OMG!

  92. El Dirty Says:

    That’s what I need before I go… and a martini… and a blunt… and a condom… wait forget the condom

  93. La Milicia Negra Says:

    El Dirty..

    I don’t like how you are treating your women, get them some tops, it looks like they are freezing =)

    thanks for the eye-candy =)

  94. 408RAIDER Says:

    Vladimir Putin Says:
    August 11th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
    Shut the f’k up and stop talking politics, or I’m going to kick some ass in here.

    dude you said you would never threaten any 1 with physical violence!!

    Lier Lier

  95. BHPbayarea Says:

    “Cold is gold”…Keep the freeze on…

  96. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota..

    good work, I appreciate that =) I will take focus on North Kor3a.. my GF is half korean, maybe i can pull some threads, so they will back down too =) LOL

  97. Dakota Says:

    Not politics:

    http://www.tailored.com.au/uploaded_images/gorgeous-girl-735587.jpg

  98. El Dirty Says:

    LMN

    I thought that’s how you guys role? :)

  99. BHPbayarea Says:

    Poor lil Vlad…No one give him no respect. But sure as hell don’t mind givin him the boot!!!!!

  100. El Dirty Says:

    Roll*

  101. Dakota Says:

    half Kor3an huh…is this her?

    http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/4901972243.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

  102. La Milicia Negra Says:

    “Archuleta was a first-round pick of the Rams in 2001. He was cut by the Bears earlier this year and has since been looking for work.”

    “Terms of the deal weren’t disclosed. If the contract is comparable to others negotiated this year by the Raiders, we suspect it will be something like one-year, $15 million.”

    Man Mike Florio sometimes just cracks me up =)

  103. El Dirty Says:

    Dakota

    That one is amazing! post 101

  104. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dakota will not be out done by El Dirty! While 408 gets to sit back and enjoy the battle!

  105. BHPbayarea Says:

    ooohhhh…We luv her long time! Got the Asian contagion…

  106. Dakota Says:

    I have to go build my bomb shelter…here is what it will look like…

    http://shs.westport.k12.ct.us/jwb/AP/Images/BombShelter.jpg

    I strongly urge all of you to start building your own shelters, because I will not have room for you in mine.

  107. BHPbayarea Says:

    lol…LMN. Sure ya right!

  108. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dakota’s on fire

    Dirty step ur game up bro!!

  109. El Dirty Says:

    No I forfeit! I just wish to learn… I’m a young Jedi pimp in training…

  110. El Dirty Says:

    ok once

    http://www.collegeotr.com/images/blogs/3adf2f38459bcd9b0eb9eece2a0595b5.jpg

  111. El Dirty Says:

    lol

    http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Rizzo_MF/HotGirlsAndFootball.png

  112. 408RAIDER Says:

    oh Yeah this is my kind of war!!!

  113. La Milicia Negra Says:

    dakota…

    nah thats way too korean looking, her grand father was a black american soldier who were stationed in korea in 50’s. her mother and dad where korean, she was adopted by a danish couple prior her first birthday 1980.. she coould be a model, but has helluva brain, so she is in to economics =)

    so better luck looking for a picture who looks like her =)

  114. DarthPirate Says:

    Wonder what Al Davis’ bomb shelter looks like. No room for Kiffin I’m sure.

  115. Oakglenn Says:

    Quickly back to Raider Football.

    # BHPbayarea Says:
    August 11th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Besides that, the freaking chargers have been good lately. Why all the Charger crap? They’re good now, but just wait. Im guessing they’re a 10 win team at best…

    The Dischargers have the distinct history of sucking ass. They are good now. Most analysts are picking them to win it all. What happened to turn a team that entered the league almost 50 years ago, immediately face planted, and have getting effed in the A ever since into a contender?? Well, let’s find out.

    After a dismal 1-15 2000 season the Chargers picking first traded the overall number one to Atlanta for what turned out to be Ladanian Tomlinson and Drew Brees, who left as a FA. After two more mediocre seasons they AGAIN, had the the overall number one where they drafted Eli Manning and then traded him to NYG for Phillip Rivers. It seems the very high draft choices the Discharge had, and parlayed into some excellent players is the source of their rise. Now, we have had a couple of high draft choices, that hopefully can propel US to the next level. Funny tho, how Eli Manning who would NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, play for the Discharge, won a Super Bowl, before the Dischargers. Haha!!

  116. Vladimir Putin Says:

    Some drama must be going down in Alameda again, because they’re talking about the Chargers in here…

  117. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Oakglenn!!

    good to see you are actually here..

    what do you say to this adam achuuuu gesundheit deal?

  118. Vladimir Putin Says:

    I do nolt threalten anyone with the physical violence. I just a warln them. Then otherls will carrly oult the orlder.

  119. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Olympic boxing, on CNBC. French dude kicking azz on a North Kor3an dude. Look to be in the lightweight class.

  120. Vladimir Putin Says:

    Kiffin’s dissing the old man in public again. Sapp called Oakland the “armpit” of the NFL…again..today. Will the turmoil end? Will this team be focused? When you guys are done talking about politics and the Chargers, these topics are on the table.

  121. El Dirty Says:

    Why did everyone stop talking?

  122. El Dirty Says:

    http://nitinrohidas.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/hot_pune_girls.jpg

  123. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dirty I call dibs on the 1 with the blue bag LOL

  124. El Dirty Says:

    I knew that would get a comment. ;)

  125. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I cant post it as a hyper link, but you now what to do =) I know its from a danish site, but since its the pictures you are looking at I can’t see a problem =) its the wives of a few soccer players… Rrrrr =) take a look =)

    sporten.dk/galleri/stjerne-hug-em-spillernes-koner-og-kaerester?slide=1

  126. Vladimir Putin Says:

    408 Raider, if I wanted any lip from you I’d pull down my zipper. Go Russia.

  127. El Dirty Says:

    lol LMN

    I dont know where to go, I cant read it.

  128. La Milicia Negra Says:

    putin..

    what the heck do you want to do here?

  129. 408RAIDER Says:

    this is how I want my bomb shelter to lookhttp://scripps-content.communicationsmgr.com/pcsupload/07779b6b-dd09-411a-8b79-24c978da3505_player.jpg

  130. La Milicia Negra Says:

    el dirty..

    try click on the pictures =)

  131. 408RAIDER Says:

    Vladimir Putin

    veary funny!! why do yuo always resort to the gay jokes? Lame dude realy lame

  132. 408RAIDER Says:

    ratemyspace.hgtv.com/snc/ViewItem.aspx?pguid=6db6be3f-1720-4ba3-a081-999042c09b6b&itemguid=91bd1824-2c4d-4cf9-a69b-e60732571592

  133. Vladimir Putin Says:

    408 Raider, you pipe down now, or you face correction.

  134. 408RAIDER Says:

    stupid hyper link thing

  135. La Milicia Negra Says:

    el dirty,

    you need to ad WWW, i cant post hyper links, i’m on the mods list..

  136. Vladimir Putin Says:

    I suggest you turn on news to see what I do to you if you not pipe down.

  137. JediRaider Says:

    I don’t blame Kiffin for taking a stab at Al about not brining in more talent for workouts, but Archuletta stinks. No way he’s the answer at SLB, and I don’t see him being a SS either, and he would be toast playing FS in our scheme – way too slow. Maybe he can play special teams – but with only 80 guys allowed at camp, we need guys that aren’t constantly injured so we don’t have to limit reps and drills. If he’s just a seasoned vet that serves as camp fodder, then fine, but he doesn’t fit anywhere in our scheme and I see Alston being a much better WLB back-up than a guy that hasn’t played there since college. We should have brought spikes in, and we should bring some DT’s in as well (Grady Jackson if still avaialble).

  138. 408RAIDER Says:

    Vladimir Putin Says:
    August 11th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
    408 Raider, you pipe down now, or you face correction.

    what ever dude I never claimed to be a spelling champ =)

    besides I thought we were cool MR? Im like the only guy in here that thinks your funny!!

  139. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Kiffin wants back-ups who he can count on and who can play special teams. It is a no brainer. He can’t be happy sitting on a guy like Wesley who never showed up.

    BTW – People don’t get it! It isn’t about Lynch or Wesley or any other hasbeen. There are numerous young guys out there. One guy could become the Watkins of the secondary, D-line or LB positions. You can’t find those hidden gems unless you work them out!

    This is a young team – stop worrying about getting some tired guy who’ll be gone by next year. Find the Watkins of the DT world and I’ll be excited. Archuleta – yawn.

  140. El Dirty Says:

    LMN,

    Thanks for the info… Very hot women! I love the fact that no matter where I go in the world… There is always something to look at. :)

  141. Rick The Hunter Says:

    Hmm,, Seatle Seahawks just released DT Marcus Tubbs. If I were Al Davis, I would snatch him up quick. I think he could challenge Gerrad Warren for a starting spot. Or atleast he could challenge William Joseph for a roster spot. YA KNOW?!

  142. Terrapin Says:

    Fargas is by far better than Rankin – case closed. I really wasn’t THAT impressed by Rankin. Besides that long run he had, he also had a number of negative rushes. Now we can point out the 3rd string Oline, but still, I’m just saying. Fargas is way better.

  143. 408RAIDER Says:

    Jedi must be @ work or something =) I wanted spikes too but he got alot of $$$$ from the whiners

  144. Vladimir Putin Says:

    El Dirty, you have hairy on your palms, yes no?

  145. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Vladimir Putin Says:
    August 11th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    408 Raider, f**k to your mother. I have about enough of you. This final notice.
    ____________________________________________

    then we get this mother stuff, cut it out, just behave a bit, thank you..

    - don’t bother responding =)

  146. El Dirty Says:

    YES

  147. G-Raider Says:

    I think we made a good move with Archie, he knows this will be his last chance and silver is the best color to shine in

  148. El Dirty Says:

    http://www.worth1000.com/entries/300000/300394eJmi_w.jpg

  149. Vladimir Putin Says:

    In Russia, El Dirty, we put the guy who have sex with hand into circus. Highly frowned upon. You scared of real female? Or, are you gay for man?

  150. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dirty 146 LMAO

  151. Oakglenn Says:

    LMN, I would be VERY surprised if he stuck. I think Archuleta might be out of gas, altho the idea of moving him back to LB is a good one.

  152. G-Raider Says:

    I went to the game the other night…we looked pretty good for a preseason game…we should try to turn that Rankin into a return man…that guy gots juice.

  153. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Right – o Terrapin. Watched the replay. Rankin had a hole the size or a Hummer to run through. He got caught from behind by a 4th string DB. THEN he averaged 3 yards per carry on the rest of his carries. People need a reality check.

  154. G-Raider Says:

    Archuleta was pretty good when he came out…sometimes laying those hard ass hits takes a toll on you…maybe your right oak…we shall see

  155. La Milicia Negra Says:

    terrapin..

    nobody compares Rankin to Fargas, but to be honest, fargas hasn’t that much gas left in him, due to running style and what not.

    But with both Bush and McFadden on stock, we don’t have that much need of Fargas, so if we could exchange last years stats to a next year pick I would do it in a heart beat..

    Then move Bush and McFadden up the list, and add Rankin as 3rd RB.. btw Rankin has better hands than Fargas, not that it takes much to do so..

  156. 408RAIDER Says:

    Thank god!! Every1 was trying to trad Fargas to the donkys based on Rankin’s run & he didnt even make it to the house! The voice of reason strikes again

  157. Coach on Wheels Says:

    If Rankin can become a KR’r we keep him. Otherwise it ain’t happening.

    Every season there’s a guy who rips up 4th stringers and the blog goes hyper. Deja vu. Last year’s Rankin is back with us after doing zip.

    yeesh

  158. G-Raider Says:

    not everyone has the speed to hit the hole…that hole woulda closed on you…so there’s your reality check bud

  159. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Oakglenn..

    post 153.. I totally agree. I would hate to see him at safety, but he is still better than cooper, and as LB he would help the rungame instantly.. but it all comes down to ‘IF’ if he still has it. and I still doubt

  160. G-Raider Says:

    hatin…am i in a charger blog?

  161. 408RAIDER Says:

    Im all for tradeing Fargas next season and not to the donkeys!!

  162. La Milicia Negra Says:

    COW..

    I could see Rankin return kicks, if Branch finger is gone for the year (catching the ball) then I rather see Rankin return than Johnson, I don’t like that kid, too skinny..

  163. darkknight01 Says:

    All Adam needs to do is work hard and be a role player. I’m sure he can still hit and tackle and thats all we need.

  164. G-Raider Says:

    running backs are too expendable, and there is always a young back on the up and coming…we couldn’t get rid of the backs we had…ie lamont, domo…we’re stuck with baby hug…guy’s a raider for life…

  165. Ryan Says:

    Rankin seemed slow. He should have made a touchdown against the 9ers 3rd stringers. He got caught from behind. If that was Fargas or D-Dog it would have been a TD.

    I’ll watch 3 more preseason games before I say lets keep Rankin.

  166. La Milicia Negra Says:

    COW..

    it reminds me of something I heard the other day.. not very original..

  167. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Notimpressed with Johnson KR either.

    Hit the hole? Dude this is the NFL. No back in this league couldn’t have hit that hole. Al Davis couldve gained 3 yards with his walker through that hole. If Rankin was that fast he doesn’t get caught by a DB with a bad angle.

    Hopefully he can step up as a KR’r.

  168. G-Raider Says:

    niner fans were actin a fool the other night…i think they’re trying to match our rowdyness…those guys are weak…it was funny to watch them have nothing to cheer for though…man their O is awful…

  169. G-Raider Says:

    the guy didn’t even have an angle he friggin horse collared his ass

  170. 408RAIDER Says:

    whiners suck

  171. Terrapin Says:

    I want to see Branch on KRs. These other impostors are just that, impostors until we see what Branch can do. I suspect we could have one helluva ST when it all said and done. That is, if JLH is for real and Branch proves my hunch correct.

    Johnson got a shot the other night and stunk. Rakin may stink as well. I’ll withhold judgment but I’m not excited by the prospect.

    When they drafted Branch they had him penciled in to do KRs just like JLH for PRs – They must have seen something in Branch. So I’ll wait till he’s ready> Not getting excited about the other candidates.

    This squad could be hell to deal with shortly. Kiffin is bringing in some great talents. And we could have dominance in 3 phases of the game: Defense, Offense, and Special Teams. Its all coming together.

  172. Coach on Wheels Says:

    G-Raider. I was thinking the Yorks were calling Al to say, “We’ll give you all our QB’s for Walter.”

    Walter bashers need look no further than to understand it could be worse at back-up Qb, much worse.

  173. G-Raider Says:

    I seen a guy in gore jersey get choked by the Oaktown Pd…that s**t was great

  174. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Terrapin..

    don’t expect him to do that in week 1, with his thumb broken, it isn’t likely, but I had him on my list as KR too..

  175. G-Raider Says:

    the only thing I wanted to see the more of was a little more d line pressure, we could of shut them out. they suck .man they suck. nolan is gonna get fired

  176. Terrapin Says:

    If I can remember that moment correctly, Rankin let up a bit and tried to turn it back on but it was too late – caught from behind. He was struggling to run the distance, you could tell – hands and feet whaling all over the place lol. And that hole was literally the width of a tractor trailer. I could’ve moonwalked backwards through that hole and they wouldn’t have caught me! Picture that.

  177. Thec Says:

    Post 176, ROFLMAO i would have paid to see that…

  178. G-Raider Says:

    walter ended with good stats…he’s a steady back up hopefully we can get something for him if we decide to go with Tui for a back up…you can kinda see kiff don’t care much for him

  179. Raider Glory Says:

    I am glad we picked up Archuleta….. I remember him with the Rams…..He gave some monster HITS….. Thats why the Redskins made him the highest paid Safety in the NFL a few yrs ago….It’s a no lose situation……Hopefully he can regain his form!!!

    Go Raiders!!

  180. G-Raider Says:

    they woulda horse collared your ass too…hahaha

  181. G-Raider Says:

    did tyvon return kicks in college too or is this an experiment? whats the word on john bowie…isn’t that dude pretty quick…

  182. G-Raider Says:

    we need a hester type weapon…a special teams threat it’s been a while since we had a spark back there

  183. Vladimir Putin Says:

    Where do my posts go?

  184. KoolKell Says:

    7 Dollars per Gallon if Russia turns the oil off from Georgia.

    If China refuses to lend us any more money, we’re f’d too.

    The Neo-Cons, right Dakota?

  185. Terrapin Says:

    Branch runs in the 4.3s (4.31), lightening fast. As a senior he averaged 28.9 yards per return on 27 returns, returning 2 for TDs.

    Not that it’ll transfer over to the pros; but we’ll seen soon enough whenever he gets that thumb right.

  186. Terrapin Says:

    He was also a gunner on STs

  187. KoolKell Says:

    The Titans ran for 348 yards against the Rams!!!!!!!

  188. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Terrapin and COW..

    you better see the game again, i watched it twice today, and he saved the o-line on a play as well, he got a desperate dump of from walter, which he made positive yards, 12yds, but it was called back by hendersons penalty..

  189. Chris in NY Says:

    Archuleta’s a good signing. I’m curious to see if he will be in the mix at LB, S or both. It makes sense because it’s basically no guaranteed money and it brings in another good tackler with some physical skills who can give some depth at safety and boost special teams. Basically, it’s a younger, faster, healthy replacement for Greg Wesley.

  190. Coach on Wheels Says:

    LMN – Ummm so? I’d have no problem keeping him especially if he is a KR guy. Catching a dump pass is like running through a gaping hole. It is a minimum standard for his job. The guy came into camp a long shot and he still is.

    Doesn’t mean we hate him. Just don’t get all psyched up over one play. The guy averaged 3 yards per carry and almost fumbled (something Kiffin noted). He did this against guys who will be cut in two weeks. Maybe he’ll make the team.

  191. La Milicia Negra Says:

    COW..

    it seems you don’t remember the play.. he made it all on his own..

  192. Tonio Says:

    KKell… I watched the beginning of that Rams game…and Long was getting swallowed up by the Titans… I kept thinking… RunDmC… I know I wouldn’t have complained about picking him at first.. .but (hindsight) … I’m sooooo glad we got DMC.

  193. RaiderKen Says:

    Archuleta is another bring him back from the dead project. Could it work? Yes, but chances are he is cut later. He is just in camp to let people know not to let up as you never know when it’s your turn to get the pink slip.

  194. Dakota Says:

    My shelter is progressing nicely:

    http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/123073/2076411/2091776/031215_SaddamHole.jpg

  195. La Milicia Negra Says:

    tonio…

    I agree, totally =)

  196. Tonio Says:

    Rankin’s 3 yards per carry =’s Gores… (not a good comparison… just funny I thought)

  197. KoolKell Says:

    7 Dollars per Gallon if Russia turns the oil off from Georgia.

    If China refuses to lend us any more money, we’re f’d too.

    The Neo-Cons, right Dakota?

  198. Tonio Says:

    Political re~post KK?

  199. Bob Marley Says:

    Posted by ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson…

    “Adam Archuleta had an impressive workout for the Raiders prior to them signing him today.

    Archuleta ran a 4.55 40-yard dash and he did 38 repetitions of 225-pound bench press. Archuleta has long been known as a workout warrior and for bringing a lot of fire to a defense. The Raiders look at the signing as an extremely low risk move. He was signed for one year at $730,000.

    Archuleta is moving from safety to outside linebacker in Oakland. The Raiders are looking for depth at the position and Archuleta is looking for a new lease on his career. After struggling in recent years at safety, Archuleta is hoping to enjoy a career resurgence at linebacker were he starred at college at Arizona State.

    The Archuleta move backs up what Raiders’ coach Lane Kiffin said. He is looking for more competition at the end of the roster. Winning teams go 53-men strong. That’s’ what Kiffin is looking for and that’s why Archuleta was signed.”

  200. KoolKell Says:

    Long got manhandled huh? I didn’t see the game.

    Is Dorsey playing, how’d he look?

  201. KoolKell Says:

    Tonio

    Taking a stray shot at Dakota’s people ;-) sorry

  202. 408RAIDER Says:

    Im down with that

  203. 408RAIDER Says:

    If when gas hits $7 a gall. Im hoveing to the hills and getting a horse :P

  204. 408RAIDER Says:

    moveing

  205. Dakota Says:

    Neocons are liberals that have moved to the right…they are not my people KK.

  206. Bob Marley Says:

    I´m finally going to watch Friday´s game tonight..it was about time, even if I feel like I already watched it thanks to everyone´s comments.

  207. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bob Marley..

    they starting a blog forum at BSPN, Bill Williamson has been assigned to the AFC West, I like him, he is fair, he calls bullmanure when he sees it. he is the only guys at BSPN I like =)

  208. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota,

    hehe.

  209. Oakglenn Says:

    4.55 is certainly slow for a DB. Hopefully Archuleta is healed up and ready to go. As I said, the idea of moving him to LB might be a good one. A 215 lb outside LB?? I guess we’ll find out.

  210. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bob Marley..

    I had it the same way when I saw it today, I later put it on again =)

  211. Bob Marley Says:

    Milicia..yeah, he seems ok, specially for a former Broncos beat guy.

  212. Oakglenn Says:

    Bob Marley, after seeing it live and seeing it on tape, the tape just does not do justice to how amazing Mike Bush is for a big guy or how quick Dmac is.

  213. SilverNblack666 Says:

    “The Archuleta move backs up what Raiders’ coach Lane Kiffin said. He is looking for more competition at the end of the roster. Winning teams go 53-men strong. That’s’ what Kiffin is looking for and that’s why Archuleta was signed.””

    Sounds like Kiffin is getting what he wants unlike the way Jerry was trying to spin it as Coach complaining about big AL.

    Local sports writers in the Bay Area are the worst!

  214. Dakota Says:

    There, done with my bunker:

    http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ZAndrz9ATS4/RyOeSGZNM1I/AAAAAAAACn8/AvqZ8NtvWAY/DSC_0399.JPG

  215. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota,

    Any Polygamists sects or “Cultural Compounds” up there you can move in with until WWIII blows over?

  216. 408RAIDER Says:

    dead link Dakota

  217. Huff24 Says:

    Archuleta is a good signing because we’re not using him as a starter. Hes still better than alot of other guys and at least we have both Arch and Branch who can both hit people when its necessary. We now have a solid tackling secondary.

    Why didn’t we just re-sign Schweigert? haha.

  218. Huff24 Says:

    Dakota – Do I need to start posting some great links? Don’t make me quiet this blog with another 27 minute video. haha.

  219. Tonio Says:

    lmfao @27 minute Huff…

  220. Vladimir Putin Says:

    Laughter out loud. First the Raider fan say ESPN unreliable. Now that ESPN contradict local media report, Raider fan say ESPN credible. Raider fan remind me of Mrs. Putin.

  221. BHPbayarea Says:

    Archuleta @ LB? You gotta be joking dudes? We kicked him out of the STL years ago. And he gone down hill even farther since then. Hell, the bear cut him. Why would anyone in here have the slightest interest in him. If you want old and experienced, go w/Lynch. He’s pissed @ Shanny, he felt he was lied to by the organization. He is in the right frame of mind for serious revenge factor. Plus, as a 9 time probowler, he could add some big time mentoring to our youthful backfield. Do even say we couldnt use that…

  222. Bob Marley Says:

    I think the Raiders are having some of the same problems that many other teams have when it comes to dealing with an 80 man roster, as opposed to 86 as it was before.

    Looking at Kiffin´s comments about depth from Jason Jones at sacbee.com….

    “The areas lack depth the most are cornerback and the offensive line. With a rash of injuries in the secondary, the Raiders had only four corners.

    Safety Hiram Eugene helped fill in for some drills.

    “Yeah, it’s hard,” Kiffin said. “You don’t get many one-on-ones so our receivers end up going on air. We put Hiram down there today in slot a little bit to help us out but it’s a situation we’ve been in now for awhile. It is what it is.”

    - People like Jeff Fisher and Bill Polian have spoken recently against the 80 man roster limit, here´s Polian just a couple of days ago:

    “Q: What do you feel are some of the most pressing on-field trends and issues in the league today?.

    A: “The first thing that we need to have some answers on is how the 80-man roster limit affects what we ultimately come out of camp with,” Polian said last week in an interview with the Globe prior to the Hall of Fame Game in Canton, Ohio.

    “It isn’t good from our perspective….It’s not a good test….I don’t just mean us, but all teams.”

    Polian is curious to see how teams will be affected over the course of the season…Why is this such a big issue?.

    “I’ll use our linebackers as a prime example,” Polian said of a position that has been hit by injuries in training camp. “When you have an injury at one position, you can’t reduce the [repetitions] of everybody else at that position, because this is an interrelated game.

    “So they have to take the same reps as the tackles, and ends and corners, but you’re doing it with less guys. So it stresses the position and you find that you go from one injury, to two, to three, you get an epidemic at one position. Now you’re in a position where you have difficulty.”

    “The question is, what do you do?” said Polian. “Do you reduce reps? Do you reduce practice? Do you change the way you practice? All those kind of things are questions that have to be answered.”

    From the Boston Globe´s Mike Reiss.

  223. BHPbayarea Says:

    LMN…where ya go? It was just getting interesting?

  224. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Vlad..

    you have a very simplistic way to see things, No wonder your country is going downhill..(by your i mean USA) but hey as long as you win gold medals =)

  225. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Nice post Marley. As I stated earlier in a post:

    “Be realistic any coach on any NFL team except probably this years Cowboys would want more talent and competition at every position.

    This is just a comment that many coaches make but since its the Raiders the media automatically puts a negative spin on it. Don’t be sheep and take the disgruntled writers spin on this. Remember that Jerry is a Charger fan and he will at times show that mentality and this is a prime example of that!”

  226. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ST BHP..

    lynch cost much more doe than 700K..

    I like the idea of adam achuuuuleta as situational MLB and SLB.. he hits hard, he is fast as a LB, 4.55 and he would be an upgrade to the rungame, and he would be burned on pass games as LB, because Ball hawks as Morrison and Howard is there, they don’t dare to throw over the middle..

  227. KoolKell Says:

    The writers don’t like Al Davis bwaaaaaaaabeaaaaaaaa. Sheesh.

  228. KoolKell Says:

    Take Morrison out of the game on certain situations and replace him with Archuellta?

    What situations?

  229. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    We do need more competition. So do the other 31 teams in the league.

    When Kiffin talks about competition in camp, he’s not just talking about fighting against others for a job at the same position — he’s also talking about competition against guys across the line of scrimmage. When our #1’s have to go against #2’s and 3’s because of injuries, it means we have no legitimate baseline to gauge the offense by.

    Kiffin also has flashbacks to USC, where they had 100+ guys to pick from year to year. He needs to remind himself — just like we all need to remember — that if we add a player, we’ve got to drop a player now. That’s not as easy as it sounds, and has a lot more implications than just to the roster. How many guys should we drop, only to add more players everybody thinks are washed-up, slow, jigh-risk, etc.? Not like future Hall Of Famers are coming out of the woodwork and walking into camp.

    Kiffin is a good coach who can become a great NFL head coach. This year, he’ll figure out that USC isn’t in the NFL, and the money the team spends per player is at least TWICE as much as they paid Reggie Bush @ USC (where they didn’t even have a cap).

  230. another "scot" posting "damn" Says:

    i read your stuff all the time but never post
    post 34 perfect Dakota!

  231. SilverNblack666 Says:

    For a 60 year old man you sure do act a lot like an angry sex starved teenager. Get some preparation H and follow the media right out to pasture like the Sheep you are!

  232. KoolKell Says:

    I’m 56, how old are you 666?

  233. KoolKell Says:

    I’m 56, how old are you 666?

  234. Bearbacker71 Says:

    The Raiders play the Titans this friday night which gives us the opportunity to see the receiver the Raiders passed over in the 4th round of the draft in order to pick Arman Shields. The Titans drafted Lavelle Hawkins from Cal with the very next pick. So Al passed on the local kid from a major school/conference with very good production numbers, despite being on the opposite side of the field of Desean Jackson, for a speedy receiver (of course) with a bum knee who played for a small-time school (Richard Spiders). My moneys on Hawkins to have the superior year & career despite having a less than great QB in Vince Young. I hope Kiff takes the leash off JR and opens things up a little more this week.

  235. Inside The Oakland Raiders: Wesley cut | The RaiderCast Says:

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  236. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    If Archuleta makes the final roster, we’re in worse shape on D than most of us realize. Even us optimists…

  237. stretch Says:

    Why?

  238. Florida Pete Says:

    good evening, gentlemen…

    i say…

    the raiders are going to exhibit some serious stompitude this season…

  239. Bearbacker71 Says:

    That was RICHMOND Spiders.

  240. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    Jim mora voice;

    Chargers? CHargers? don’t talk about the chargers! CHargers? Chargers? Give me a break! CHargers?

  241. KoolKell Says:

    Yeah, I read this morning that the Chargers are looking healthy and prospects are high.

  242. Bearbacker71 Says:

    Aaron Rodgers looked very good for the Packers in his one quarter of play. How did Alex Smith look the other night? Just a little somethin for any Whiner fans lurking around here.

  243. La Milicia Negra Says:

    KollKell..

    you’re not listening..

  244. stretch Says:

    ya! the whiners blew that pick. what a waste.

  245. KoolKell Says:

    Sorry, I’m just not feelin ya on Archeuleta.

  246. Steelyone Says:

    post 193 Ken

    yup

    Carry on Nation

  247. stretch Says:

    i feel archeuleta will be in for running plays to put a smack down on LT and LJ. covering will go to the others.

  248. El Dirty Says:

    How many of u guys have to look at the last name before u post. lol

  249. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I am 42 KoolKell

  250. Steelyone Says:

    what’s yer point dertee?

  251. stretch Says:

    i was copying koolkell. so if its wrong its his fault….lol

  252. El Dirty Says:

    Exactly

  253. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    If Archuleta is a monster on ST’s, and if he plays great in some hybrid or backup capacity on Defense, then his signing will be a good one. But, mostly because of price. Archuleta better translate all that lockerroom speed and strength to the field in a hurry…his tryout has only just begun. Long before he left STL, no matter how hard he hit, he was considered overrated in some aspects — never quite living up to the long-term all-around potential people gave him. And I’m talking about the people right there in STL. Washington knew they overpaid him (in relative/NFL terms, of course) very quickly after they did so.

    Now, he’s on the Raiders…so, to me until he proves otherwise, he belongs here and will get my support — whether or not I think there are better moves to be made right now. Just like Kiff, I’m not the GM…so I just go with the flow and hope it was a good signing.

    If he does make the cut, my greatest wish is for Archuleta to help school the younger guys — especially when it comes to laying wicked hits — and for him to be a standout Special Teamer. Then, his $730k will be a bargain.

  254. Terrapin Says:

    Guys I wouldnt look too deep into and overanalyze CLong at this point in his career. DLinemen sometimes take a year or so to get assimilated to the power and skill of the NFL. Look no further than Mario Williams. So stay away from the I told you so’s for now. Time will tell.

  255. DarthPirate Says:

    Bam! Another swimming gold medal for the US. Phelps has two, one of the women has one, and Piersol just got another for us.

    See? There some things we are still better at then everyone else. Of course I suck at swimming.

  256. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    KK — Since I’m a Al Davis fan (for better or worse), I hope that doesn’t automatically qualify me as an “evangelical” also? That term doesn’t really fit me too well, ya dig.

  257. KoolKell Says:

    666, sure you are. (lol)

    Al Davis Evangelicals religiously follow orthodox scripture, rather than their own eyes and ears and brains.

  258. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    KK — Who you talking to?

  259. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    C’mon…I’m pretty quick to disagree with Al, on plenty of occasions. Just ’cause I like the man doesn’t mean I think he’s perfect. And, I’m very objective in my opinions of players and moves made by the team.

  260. 408RAIDER Says:

    so when do we get a new fix?

  261. armond Says:

    its funny now we have the trade fargas crowd when alot of u said he and bush was a reason NOT to draft mcfadden. now trade him or bush because 3 rb is 2 much 2 have but u want rankin 2 take his spot. so if rankin gets shut down by the titans do we trade him instead for a 4th rnd pick? ill take archuleta over stu any day and hopefully we will add more depth. i hoped the raiders would check on lecharles bentley health just to see if he can work out for a spot like newberry last year. the raiders r still a work in progress so filling out the depth chart will rely more on next years draft and fa. of course if mario gets off his ass and plays better that would help out alot. the team is 19-61 over 5 years for a reason. so unless they have the midas touch with camp cuts and young diamonds in the rough this will be a problem for the rest of the year. just be patient see what they do and enjoy the rest of the preseason. yall want a quick fix 2 much which has been the problem. if al just developed the team with the proper coaches and had a plan 2 develop younger players over time after the superbowl loss we could be challenging SD for division titles and possibly more right now. yall need to stop actin like football crackheads. we gettin better slowdown!!!

  262. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    Armond — You’re right about keeping Fargas. One veteran, and two first-time NFL players do not make an instant success. Neither of the younger guys has taken an NFL pounding…and the one who has taken a pounding gets broken a lot.

  263. KoolKell Says:

    HayesDaze, I wasn’t particulairly talking to you, but if the shoe fits………..

    Btw, I will always honor Mr Davis’s legacy.

  264. KoolKell Says:

    Nice post Armond.

    People don’t respect the craft and skills of players worked on and developed through practice.

    Skilled players are not the product of Al Davis’s scheming and moves, as the Evangelicals like to think. Players and coaches develop the crafts and skills necessary to be a professional.

    Al Davis thinks his button pushing is the reason. But games are won on the field, not on paper.

  265. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    KK — There’s gotta be another term you can come up with for us who lean far less than the evangelicals. Something that still reflects support for Al, but a little more atheistic perhaps? (All due respects to BHP, of course!)

  266. shawnraiders81 Says:

    Guys…… we need to stop crying everytime the media relays a comment by Kiffin about Mr. Davis.

    Kiffin and Davis are not best friends they don’t have to be. Kiffin is still the HC because Al Davis wants him there, otherwise he would have fired him asap.

    Remember Davis fired Shanahan in the middle of the season, Al will do what he wants and if he wanted Kiffin gone it would have happened by now.

    If you pay attention Kiffin uses the media to get a message across and to motivate, he did it with Mario Henderson, Michael Bush, and Javon Walker. and he may be trying to motivate Mr. Davis to bring in more players, It’s not a bad strategy.

    p.s. anyone who wants to trade Fargas after 1,000 yard season in 8 games last year is nuts, we have a three headed monster we can do alot with. Fargas/Mcfadden at the same time, Bush/McFadden McFadden!!!!!

  267. shawnraiders81 Says:

    KK some of us like the evangelical way of life, even if we are Raiders fans :-)

  268. Bob Marley Says:

    Hey old man, what´s bothering you nowadays?…

  269. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    #264, KK — You’re arguing with yourself on that one. The only reason the coaches get the players to coach-up is because the owner/GM brings them in. If a player comes in and doesn’t produce, who gets blamed? If it’s you, or one of the others who can’t help but point at Al), he gets the blame for every flop. No recognition for anything done well (yes, even in the infamous 19-61 era, good things have happened).

    What if the team totally bombs this year? Is it because Al didn’t get the right players? Because Kiff didn’t coach ‘em all up properly? Because the assistant coaches weren’t as good hoped? Because the players just don’t know what it’s like to be winners anymore? The simple answer is yes. To all those, and many more.

    You and a few other notable posters in here are leaning as far to your side as the Al backers are. To label all of Al’s backers in one category, is like the rest of us equating you to the other Al Haters — and I know better than that. I think.

  270. raiderhomey Says:

    Yo nation, Fargas just plain and simple ain’t goin anywhere. Get ready all you Jamarcus fans, this team is gonna run, and run, and then they will start runnin somemore. Don’t be surprised to witness several 200 yard rushing games posted by our Raiders this season. I f they stay away from turnovers, 10-6 will be a snap.

  271. GRIM Says:

    10 and 6 or 9and 7 is what i’m thinking.

  272. Florida Pete Says:

    jamarcus’ job is to simply hand the thing off cleanly… try not to trip… and definately stay out of the way…

    pound it till it bleeds !!!

    (um… you know what i mean…)

  273. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    Who’da thunk the tape-delayed Olympics would pull so many Raiders fans?

  274. 408RAIDER Says:

    mens diveing is retarded and gay.. My wife is watching tho LOL

  275. KoolKell Says:

    HayesDaze,

    You’re right of course. You’re making me feel bad for sterotyping.

    I’m alirght Marley. I’m kool.

    I would like to see Lane Kiffin institute some kind of recognizable passing scheme though, other than dump offs.

  276. 408RAIDER Says:

    Jerry ur breaking my ball again!! Sup with the fix

  277. daniel Says:

    Adam Archuleta had an impressive workout for the Raiders prior to them signing him today.

    Archuleta ran a 4.55 40-yard dash and he did 38 repetitions of 225-pound bench press. Archuleta has long been known as a workout warrior and for bringing a lot of fire to a defense. The Raiders look at the signing as an extremely low risk move. He was signed for one year at $730,000.

    Archuleta is moving from safety to outside linebacker in Oakland. The Raiders are looking for depth at the position and Archuleta is looking for a new lease on his career. After struggling in recent years at safety, Archuleta is hoping to enjoy a career resurgence at linebacker were he starred at college at Arizona State.

    The Archuleta move backs up what Raiders’ coach Lane Kiffin said. He is looking for more competition at the end of the roster. Winning teams go 53-men strong. That’s’ what Kiffin is looking for and that’s why Archuleta was signed.

  278. Florida Pete Says:

    408RAIDER Says:
    August 11th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
    mens diveing is retarded and gay.. My wife is watching tho LOL

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    men’s diving is okay…

    men’s sychronized diving is retarded and gay…

  279. daniel Says:

    sorry for putting that again

  280. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    KK — Right on; and I won’t lump you in, either.

    As far as JaMarcus being let-off the leash, or given a longer one…..I think it has more to do with his own capabilities and confidence than anything else. I’m going to guess that a majority of our longest plays this year will come from “broken” plays. I can see the scripted long-bombs, but I also can see the check-down becoming the check-up-the-field (a la the great Raider Jim Plunkett) during a lot of plays — we have too many guys who can get deep during the chaos.

    JaMarcus will break the leash that is artificially keeping him held back. He will start to regularly take what the defenses gives him, and it will be obvious to all of us when he gets that big picture.

  281. SilverNblack666 Says:

    KoolKell

    “Al Davis Evangelicals religiously follow orthodox scripture, rather than their own eyes and ears and brains.”

    Btw, I will always honor Mr Davis’s legacy.

    So which is it my bi-polar blogger?

  282. Bob Marley Says:

    Night fellas…it´s taken me 3 days but I´m about to get my first look at the 08 Raiders.

  283. 408RAIDER Says:

    Florida Pete

    I ment to say men’s sychronized diving is retarded and gay…

    but its all good now womens beach vollyball is on now :P

  284. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    SilverNblack666 Says:
    August 11th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
    KoolKell

    “Al Davis Evangelicals religiously follow orthodox scripture, rather than their own eyes and ears and brains.”

    Btw, I will always honor Mr Davis’s legacy.

    So which is it my bi-polar blogger?

    ————————————————

    Now, that was pretty funny!

  285. Thec Says:

    I dont like te Archuleta move. He is slow. We should have got Takeo Spikes.

  286. FANG Says:

    SPIKES IS EVEN SLOWER DUMB ASS…stfu moron

  287. Random Drugtester Says:

    Hey guys…forget the past and the numbers…only thing that matters is THIS YEAR!! 19 – 61 means squat!
    6th in running offense means nothing!
    We are a different team this year than last year, and so is every other team in the league!
    However, I think the RAIDERS have improved and have matured light years more than anybody else in the league, especially in our division!

    It all looks good, no matter how you look at it;

    Tommy Kelly looking good!
    Defense looking tough!
    Offense looking unpredictable and explosive!
    Special teams looking as good or better than anybody!

    BELIEVE IN NOW!

    Go RAIDERS!

    JUST WIN BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  288. 408RAIDER Says:

    Thec sup bro?

    Jerry’s breaking balls again! Im just waiting for the fix!

  289. KoolKell Says:

    I will alway honor Mr Davis’s legacy, but it’s time for the old man to step aside. What’s the problem?

  290. 408RAIDER Says:

    Internet tuff guy!

  291. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Random Drugtester

    I like what our saying just know that some of these posters will be calling you an Al evangelical.

    I get called that everyday for being so stoked on the upcoming season and not getting sucked in to the local sports writers rumor mongering.

  292. SilverNblack666 Says:

    OK so lets say he decided to step down just who do you suggest would better or more qualified of a replacement?

  293. SilverNblack666 Says:

    There is no one else on this planet that could run this team better than Mr Davis its that simple, if you can think of someone please do let us all know.

  294. Random Drugtester Says:

    i live in Toronto Ontario, Bay area (local sports writers) mean nothing, or have no impact on my opinion.

    We just follow NFL on our own and are unaffected by sportswriter bias.

    Having said that, Rashard Mendenhall in Pittsburgh scares me a little!

  295. Random Drugtester Says:

    P.S. I am watching a replay of the SF exhib. game and I really like that Rankin guy!

  296. 408RAIDER Says:

    666

    I hate to say it but if the old man steps down its mark and amy who are going to take over! Not that I want that to happen or anything

  297. Random Drugtester Says:

    Al Davis = Raiders (and Raider Fans)

  298. garthraider Says:

    Dakota,agree 100%,some seem to think football is the end all,end all,I wish it was!We had a taste w/9/11,but when we nut up w/putin,the gloves are off the table.The RAIDERS help by being a focus that takes me away from forces that threaten our kids/family.Sorry for being a downer!

  299. SilverNblack666 Says:

    That’s exactly what I am saying 408Raider

  300. Steelyone Says:

    u know…

    I tried..

    thought about it for a moment

    If Al were not around, who would be a better replacement?

    Think about it fellas…

    Just a hypothetical

    Parcells?
    Mark Cuban?
    Saudi Price Fahhad

    Al is the man…good, bad, right or wrong?

    His son will likely carry that torch when the time comes.

    “I dreamed we would have the finest players and the greatest coaches”

    Al Davis

    Carry on Nation

  301. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    There isn’t another GM in the league any better for the Raiders. Having a better string of sucesses lately? Of course, there are some. Better over the long-haul? That’s laughable. Are there others any more or less likely to make a mistake? Sure, Al’s not perfect…but neither are any of the others, and most don’t have anything like the knowledge of Al Davis.

    Any OBJECTIVE look at Owner or GM records will show that Al’s choices are no better or worse than others are. Show me a GM who hasn’t made mistakes in their choices, and I’ll show you a GM who hasn’t done anything yet.

  302. Random Drugtester Says:

    We need Al to groom or endorse somebody so that we can have some continuity as RAIDER fans

  303. raiderhomey Says:

    yo coach Kiff, just keep matriculateing down the field, that’s it lenny.

  304. SilverNblack666 Says:

    You are wrong garthraider there is positively, absolutely nothing of larger or greater importance in life than the Oakland Raiders!

  305. Random Drugtester Says:

    accordint to the announcers on NFLNT, McFadden is 6′2″ 210lbs

  306. Dakota Says:

    http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2007-01/fallout-shelter.jpg

    My shelter is fully stocked! Got internet, XM radio, flat screen tv, I-pod ready sound system, sat tv (HD package & surround sound), 1250 movie library, PS3 with all the sports games, heated floors, central air, generator with 200,000 gallons of gas, 48 issues of playboy, fully stocked library, and my toothbrush.

    Bring it Putin!

  307. SilverNblack666 Says:

    “matriculateing” that’s a old Hank Stram saying.

  308. Dakota Says:

    …oh, and lots of booze too….mainly Captain, some Crown…

  309. raiderhomey Says:

    What we have here is the ability 2 communicate, we will run Fargus, then we will run D-Mac, then we will run Fargus somemore, then we will run Bush, then we will run D-mac some, then we will run Bush, then we will hit D-mac with a little hitch-pass, and if he does not score, then we will throw a screen 2 Bush, and then if he does not score we will run Fargus, then we will run Bush, then we will run D-Mac some, and I think right about now, the entire freakin league, and the gm’s included r $hit-ting n their pants hopeing that the Raiders do-not remain healthy, cause if they do, we will run run and run, then we will start running it somemore, right down their friggin throats.

  310. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    Homey — That KC blowhard with the rug on his head and a microphone in his lapel used a big word he didn’t even understand. Even young Kiff knows his football team doesn’t want to matriculate the ball anywhere. They want to pound that ball, throw that ball down the field, and do well on Defense and Special Teams.

    By using the word matriculate when he did, that KC blowhard with the rug on his head simply memorialized his stupidity for eternity.

    Did I mention he was a KC blowhard with a rug on his head?

  311. Random Drugtester Says:

    Hey Dakota! Up here in Canada we have a saying…

    Q: If you knew the world was going to end tomorrow, what would you do?

    A: Go to Dakota…they are 50 years behind in everything there.

    (North or South makes no difference)

  312. raiderhomey Says:

    Yes silvernblack it is, however it will b reinstituted by our beloved Raiders beginng on Monday nite.

  313. SilverNblack666 Says:

    raiderhomey I have said in here many times that I would like to see us run the ball 40-45 times a game. Most people im here are not going to be happy seeing Russell only throw 20-25 passes a game however. But I like the idea of us running the ball so much.

  314. Steelyone Says:

    200,000 gallons of gas at say…$4.90 per…

    comes to

    $98 K ….. I think

    must be nice Dakota

    Share some scratch brother

    don’t forget the NFL Films library

  315. Dakota Says:

    lol, good one Random…I like that one.

  316. Random Drugtester Says:

    and if one of our running backs get injured!….we still have a stud named RANKIN….that guy is friggin awesome!

  317. raiderhomey Says:

    Ok Hayes, I realize the scope of time, but u will see some matriculation, Kiffy style.

  318. Steelyone Says:

    you know what forget it

    I’ll Sniper Putin myself

    end of conversation

  319. KoolKell Says:

    Evangelicals! sorry HayeDaze, but it’s true. Sheesh.

    There’s nobody else in football who can go 19-61? Yeah, probably not.

    Mention 19-61 and the evangelicals start spouting scripture, and speaking in tongues.

  320. Random Drugtester Says:

    ;) ….don’t have a link to an appropriate jpg though

  321. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    RDT — these actually will be a pertinent questions for this crowd:

    Who do you random drug test up there? Aren’t the laws regarding such things a little more lax in the Great White North?

  322. Thec Says:

    408, what up bro? had to go walk the dog. What do you think about the archuleta move? I see some of the whiner fans have shut up. nice….

  323. raiderhomey Says:

    Like i been sayin since the schedule came out, if they stay away from turnovers, 10-6 will b a snap.

  324. Thec Says:

    post 308, homey you speak truth Bro….

  325. Dakota Says:

    Random:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFs5l9K–7M&feature=related

  326. Random Drugtester Says:

    Hey KoolKell…being negative is easy..get tough and be a RAIDER fan! or face the wrath of us true Silver and Black people!

    (yes I am calling you out, 19-61 means crap today, and tomorrow…or NOW!)

    MAN UP KOOLKELL!

  327. shawnraiders81 Says:

    you guys JaMarcus has only thrown 5 passes in the preseason how in the world do we know he will not be airing it out in the regular season!!!! don’t read to much into a preseason offense or defense for that matter.

    I remember watching the Raders in the preseason when we got Sapp & Washington and thinking damn we are going to have a great run defense….. well I was wrong.

  328. Random Drugtester Says:

    KoolKell = Mrs. MR

  329. raiderhomey Says:

    And let’s not forget the payback that is due 2 those bolt wearin eff-in punks n diego, they will go down, and they r going down HARD.

  330. Thec Says:

    Keep preachin truth Brethren……
    If i was a DCO I would be happy JRUSS missed all last season. If he plays last season we run to SB next year.

  331. Riverside Raiders Fan Says:

    Jerry:

    Ya Basta (enough already)…we need your pm wrap-up.

    As prison warden, Norton, said to Fritz: “Not tomorrow, not after breakfast, NOW!”

  332. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Lions are 24-72 under GM Matt Millen.

    You said no one could do worse. Again I proved you wrong!

  333. shawnraiders81 Says:

    p.s. coaches don’t show their cards in the preseason……..

  334. shawnraiders81 Says:

    Anyone remember Art Shell 4-1 in the preseason……

    Superbowl!!!!!!!!!!

  335. Thec Says:

    Will talk NATION tommorrow

    LTR

  336. raiderhomey Says:

    Yo thec, just run it baby, all the way 2 freakin PAYDIRT!!

  337. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    Main Entry: ma·tric·u·late
    Pronunciation: \mə-ˈtri-kyə-ˌlāt\
    Function: verb
    Inflected Form(s): ma·tric·u·lat·ed; ma·tric·u·lat·ing
    Etymology: Medieval Latin matriculatus, past participle of matriculare, from Late Latin matricula public roll, diminutive of matric-, matrix list, from Latin, breeding female
    Date: 1577

    transitive verb
    : to enroll as a member of a body and especially of a college or university
    intransitive verb
    : to become matriculated

    —————————————————

    What that KC blowhard with a rug on his head should’ve done was matriculate himself right into an English-language classroom.

  338. garthraider Says:

    666,hold on to youre Raider teddy bear

  339. Dakota Says:

    Putin = Antichrist

    we are fuked.

  340. I WILL Says:

    Unsure why the Raiders went for a washed up Archuleta when they should have went for a washed up Lynch…at least Lynch could have provided leadership…I would have advised going after neither,..my guess is they talked to Lynch but he said no thanks.

  341. Oakglenn Says:

    Honestly, 19-61 is completely irrelevant. It might be relevant in the off season, but in sports there is only one time that matters. Now.

  342. SilverNblack666 Says:

    garthraider and you hold on to your bible, your family values and oh yeah keep voting republican!

    I don’t watch other sports I only like Football so it means more to me than most other fans and I stand by what I said. There is nothing in life more important than the Oakland Raiders. If that make me a teddy bear hugger then so be it!

  343. MR Says:

    Um, ok, SNB, I know satan worshipers aren’t known for their math, but could you please enlighten us as to how 19-61 is NOT worse than 24-72?!?

  344. Random Drugtester Says:

    my last 2 posts never showed….why? didn’t swear or anything!

  345. Mistabrown Says:

    Now cut Jano, the last scholarship player on the roster.

  346. Random Drugtester Says:

    Um, ok, MR, I know figures lie and liars figure, but could you please enlighten us as to how 2 records from the past have anything to do with NOW and the FUTURE?

  347. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I agree Oakglenn its the beginning of a new season and most of us are stoked for the upcoming season. While others in here are brooding about the last 5 years putting Al Davis in a grave in hopes that a Leprechaun is going to come down from the clouds and make a better owner.

  348. garthraider Says:

    Steelyone, a little 11 bravo action,or something more stealth

  349. Mistabrown Says:

    All of that and no Raider season tix ?

    # Dakota Says:
    August 11th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2007-01/fallout-shelter.jpg

    My shelter is fully stocked! Got internet, XM radio, flat screen tv, I-pod ready sound system, sat tv (HD package & surround sound), 1250 movie library, PS3 with all the sports games, heated floors, central air, generator with 200,000 gallons of gas, 48 issues of playboy, fully stocked library, and my toothbrush.

    Bring it Putin!

  350. Howie's Neck Roll Says:

    Raider game on NFL Network….Bush just got busy!

  351. Dakota Says:

    Mista, how’s it going?

    I was just warning everyone that Putin is the antichrist and that we should all build our bomb shelters because the sheet is about to hit the fan…and Putin is totally going to ruin the upcoming NFL season by starting WWIII.

    How have you been?

  352. KoolKell Says:

    Insanity= Doing the same thing and expecting different results.

  353. MR Says:

    Yeh, Oakglenn, the only time that matters is now…unless you’re bringing up the fact that we went to the Super Bowl 5 years ago to justify Al’s poor management.

    And, let’s review what’s happening now. Kiffin is going to the press and blaming Davis for the fact that our roster is too top heavy, with no competition at the bottom. All we have to speak of is a pre season win against the Niners, where while our first string defense looked improved, our first string offense looked the same. Russell was hurried and sacked. And he had a little too much touch on that deep ball he’s supposed to be known for. McCown could have lobbed those up.

    So, this is what’s going on right now, Oaklglenn. We’re 19-61, and we’re on preseason game into our new season where only minor improvement has been shown on our first string. Oh, and over the course of the last 5 years, Al Davis is a worser GM than even Matt Millen. That’s up to date. That’s NOW.

  354. Mistabrown Says:

    Howies Neck,
    That vanilla man 2 man defense was enough to put a choke hold on the 49er offense too bad we cant play them 16 weeks.

  355. KoolKell Says:

    Speaking of NOW, what the hell does a Super Bowl in 1983 have to do with now?

    Exactly why Raider Fan is the laughingstock of the NFL.

  356. Dakota Says:

    he said worser, hee

  357. Mistabrown Says:

    WOW, I should watch the news! I thought Reagan took care of the Russians! Whats goin on ?

  358. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Calm down there Cujo it was a typo I am looking for the link again where I got the info I am pretty sure it was 24-81 I know you are salivating at the opportunity for me to be incorrect on something.

  359. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    Bad records like:
    19-61,
    24-72,
    No Super Bowls since 1969,
    No Super Bowls — EVER,
    And on and on…
    ——————————————-

    All those things $uck — the only thing (besides winning) that matters when looking at PAST records is that a team’s leadership continues to try to improve, to the best of their ability, even after successful seasons. Al does that.

    Man, you haters…you’re all alike. :)

  360. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Random drug Tester you learn fast!!

    You figured those two losers out real quick, funny thing is they actually call themselves Raider fans?

  361. MR Says:

    SNB666 said that Matt Millen is doing worse than Al Davis. Our favorite little satan worshiper would have done a much better job of making his sell had he not actually posted Millen’s record, which clearly indicates that Millen has not in fact done worse than Al Davis. He’s better than Al Davis. Thanks for proving yourself wrong, SNB666.

  362. Mistabrown Says:

    He called him “cujo” haha

  363. Rick T Says:

    GO RAIDERS!!!!

  364. MR Says:

    Me, Mista Clown, Kell, Coach on Wheels, Scottish Raider, and all other people who’ve criticized Al Davis are all the same person. You guys didn’t know that?

  365. Dakota Says:

    new post turdheads

  366. Random Drugtester Says:

    MR…you should come up here to Canada….you and KoolKell can get married legally up here.

    still waiting for you to prove you ARE a RAIDER fan.

    But you never have and never will because you are such a simp….get lost already…nobody likes you…you must be at least intelligent enough to know that aren’t you?

  367. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I am hoping one of them come and pay me a visit during a game I keep posting my seats in here with the glimmer of hope that it will happen.

    Now for all of you that want to keep putting meaningless numbers up in here about a 5 year period of time what you should be posting is our all time record not just the last 5 years like a feeble minded brooding sports writer. Quit living on Nancy Gay Jerry and Ann Killion’s stats it makes you look like a sheep.

    http://www.raiders.com/History/Default.aspx?id=882

  368. Law Says:

    I know it is still early, but it looks like the Raiders are headed down the same old path. Injuries, poor QB play, no WR’s, etc….

  369. JediRaider Says:

    Hey 408 – back in the house – how much did Takeo Spikes get from the 9ers? I didn’t see contract info – thought it was a one year deal for the vet min.

    Anyway, most of us true believers and die hards know that we’re a strong run stopping d-line away from winning 10-12 games this year because we should make some plays against the pass and our schedule is weak. Kiffin gave us 17 points per game last year and our o was terrible with zero playmakers – even if JR struggles, we’re putting up at least 21 a game with DMAC’s big play ability and JR’s ability to hit our new speedy WR’s down the field even if we don’t reduce the turnovers from last year. If we can put up 21 a game just with our offense vs. our weak schedule and stop the run decently to force teams to pass, we should be able to add 3-4 points more per game via turnovers generated by our d. All we need is a decent NT to play 20 snaps a game on 1st downs and in short yardage situations and we’re set. Al – go get Grady!

  370. DarthPirate Says:

    Jamarcus on Sirius now!

  371. Sammyg Says:

    Archuleta is one of the worst players ever. he was so highly touted out of college, and has ben such a bust since he is too slow for coverage, and too small for the backer position. the only thing that has kept him around is the fact that he is a workout warrior… he will be a bust in oakland too!

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