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Camp wrap ‘08: special teams

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, August 15th, 2008 at 11:13 am in Oakland Raiders.

If discerning the capability of a defense with no tackling is difficult, assessing special teams is virtually impossible.

The high-speed blocking and collisions which take place on kickoffs and punts are precisely what teams try to avoid in training camp.

As for the kickers, the two guys who have the easiest time of it in Napa are the same guys who came up lame, although both Sebastian Janikowski (hamstring) and Shane Lechler (quad) should be fine for the regular season.

It’s at least a little troubling that the specialists both were injured when asked to actually extend themselves and do their jobs _ Janikowski on kickoffs and Lechler on punts.

Give them time to heal and you’ll probably get what you always get _ Janikowski will be an above-average if not game-altering kickoff man and he’ll be a good percentage kicker from 39 yards and in. He’ll be more erratic from 40 yards and out _ the area that was supposed to be his specialty _ but Seabass is on scholarship and the Raiders have no interest in providing competition at the position.

Lechler is on scholarship as well, and deservedly so. Although the Raiders would love to see Lechler take his conditioning more seriously, there is no need to bring in any other punters when you have the best in the game. Throws a nice ball when his standing-around time is interrupted as well.

Special teams practices in terms of coverage and blocking are all about getting in proper lanes and choreographing blocking schemes, and you get no real idea of how anyone is faring until actual games.

Players who should stick because of special teams skills include Isaiah Ekejiuba, Jarrod Cooper, Jon Alston (personal protector on punts), snapper Jon Condo and rookie safety Tyvon Branch. Fourth corner Chris Johnson has been working as a gunner.

Johnnie Lee Higgins will be given the chance to return both punts and kickoffs, and unless he revisits last year’s ball secruity issues, looks like a good bet to do both until Branch’s broken thumb heals and he can give kickoff returns a shot.

It remains to be seen how much Lane Kiffin will use Darren McFadden on kickoff returns, with the guess being it probably won’t be much. DeAngelo Hall’s hand injury takes the decision out of Kiffin’s hands regarding punt returns.

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201 Responses to “Camp wrap ‘08: special teams”

  1. SilverNblack666 Says:

    666

  2. Lumberjack Says:

    I’m a lumberjack & I’m okay…

  3. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    August 15th, 2008 at 11:05 am

    I’m starting to worry about Jonathan Stewarts health.. :/
    # Raider4life Says:
    August 15th, 2008 at 11:09 am

    LMN—Y?
    ___________________________________________

    Because i have in on my FFL, and its my first time trying.. his toe still hurts him.. I’ll keep him, because I think he will be a moneymaker for the panthers..

  4. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    5th

  5. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    off by 1

  6. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Lumberjack Says:
    August 15th, 2008 at 11:16 am

    I’m a lumberjack & I’m okay…
    ____________________________________________

    LOL good one =)

  7. 408RAIDER Says:

    Lechler will be fine fatboy can take a hike we should just keep the new guy whats his face!!!

    Thanx again Jerry!! And why wont those cheap b@stards get you to the game? We need our fix !!

  8. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Because i have him on my FFL.. even..

  9. Ryder Says:

    ok…..so that post was almost completely meaningless

  10. 408RAIDER Says:

    yeah but it was a teaser fix

  11. 408RAIDER Says:

    we get the real fix in about 5 & 1/2 hours or so!!!

  12. Oakglenn Says:

    Post #1 hahaha. Good one triple 6.

  13. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Yeah If I would have put #1 everyone would have complained about it.

    It was a change up. lol

  14. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Lumberjack is kind of funny

  15. M Says:

    U of N. Arizona, they are OK.

  16. El Dirty Says:

    All I want today is J-Mac to throw a TD. Is this to much to ask?

  17. 408RAIDER Says:

    Sup Dirty

    whaht do you think about the new guy DB dirty sanchez?

  18. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Sup 408Raider

    5 hours left!!!!

  19. 408RAIDER Says:

    666
    yep! 5 hours till all hell breaks loose on the titans!! :p

    as you can see I’ve been drinking Kool-Aid all morning! Is it beer 30 yet?

  20. SilverNblack666 Says:

    at 4:30 I am cracking a cold one!!

    How about you?

  21. RaiderMight Says:

    Time for a real test! Go RAIDERS!

    0 days, 5 hours, 2 minutes, and 27 seconds left until the Oakland Raiders visits the Tennesse Titans.

  22. El Dirty Says:

    408

    That’s my cousin from the hood!

  23. El Dirty Says:

    408

    He’s going to be jacking QB’s all season.

  24. 408RAIDER Says:

    666
    same Im thinking bout useing my comuter mug on the way home j/k kinda!

    Dirty LOL lets hope so brethren!

  25. SilverNblack666 Says:

    you have to get one or two cold ones in before kickoff.

    Not to mention kickoff is 40 minutes after 4:20.

  26. 408RAIDER Says:

    I like the way your thinking 666!

  27. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Sam Farmer, at the L.A. Times. Has a nice article about McFadden, today.

    latimes(dot)com/sports

    scroll around, you’ll find it.

  28. EasTcoastRaider Says:

    Am I the only one that is worried about our D-line being banged up before they even get to the real games?
    Just seems like we are in such a similar position as last year there, because one guy goes down and we are in deep trouble. T Kelly is the key, and also the most likely to go down based on his history.

    Can’t wait to see McFadden run run run…and M. Bush too!

  29. RaiderMight Says:

    I will be at work until 6:30, so I guess I will be listening to it on the radio and watching later tonight on my DVR. :(

    DARN THESE RESPONSIBILITIES!

  30. 408RAIDER Says:

    yep I hear ya RaiderMight @ least yo can hear it tho!

  31. BART Bridge Balla Says:

    good link 909!

    interesting mention of the ’stag’ formation at the end of the article. That must be the secret formation that Jerry wont tell us about.

  32. Raider Raul 53 Says:

    Only 4:20 left till kickoff, baby.
    oh yeah…420…

    Raiders 24
    Titans 16

  33. Nnamdi21 Says:

    what about that Louis running back guy to return kicks? He had a good 28 yarder last week.

    I think our special teams will be improved this year.

  34. Quagmire'd Says:

    The Raiders can’t carry that many running backs…Rankin won’t make the team. They’ll put him on the practice squad and the Donkeys or some other team will sign him to their active roster.

  35. Rick The Hunter Says:

    As far as special teams are concerned. Im not worried about Higgins & it wouldnt surprise me if he takes a few more back this PREseason. Notice I said preseason. I dont wanna get too hyped about him yet because he was outsanding last preseason but then disappeared in the regular seseason. Hopefully he’ll be our version of Devin Hester. Janokowski is my concern. Every time he lines up for a fieldgoal or a PAT I honestly get real nervous because his horse leg isnt the most accurate one. Lechler,, pro bowler,,, no worries. Our main focus should be on tackling and avoiding penalties in coverage. That could be the difference between going 11-5 or 5-11. YA KNOW?!

  36. raiderhomey Says:

    Yo Johnnie Lee, just hold on to the ball baby.

  37. 408RAIDER Says:

    I hope Carr gets knocked the F out!!

  38. 408RAIDER Says:

    Sup Homey! Just a lil over 4 hours till Kick off!!

  39. raiderhomey Says:

    Hey J Fish, what’s ya gonna do, when Farg-Mac-Bush inc. is a runnin wild on you.

  40. Steelyone Says:

    Raidermight? where r your priorities brother?

  41. raiderhomey Says:

    408 it is on holm, T Howard, and Kirk will b huge to-nite, Farg-Mac-Bush inc. will go off a little bit more each week, beginning no.

  42. raiderhomey Says:

    oops, beginng now.

  43. vegas raider Says:

    Raiders 4 point underdogs, didn’t bet it at lunch, but might make a stop on the way home. If Jamarcus plays the whole first half, do you guys think Walter will play the whole 2nd?

  44. 408RAIDER Says:

    Yup! I hate working on game day! I just wanna fire up the BBQ and drink lots O beer!

  45. raiderhomey Says:

    Say 408, might we see a little half back option with D-mac, or Bush tonite?

  46. 408RAIDER Says:

    Vegas dony bet on preseason games!! And no Tui will get his reps!

    Raider on!

  47. 408RAIDER Says:

    Don’t

  48. 408RAIDER Says:

    Hope so Homey but I doubt it Kiffin is keeping it simple. I hope we bust 1 on the chokers @ home tho! How great would that be.

  49. raiderhomey Says:

    Or how about a reverse flea-flicker end-around fake delayed draw option slant post screen pass.

  50. raiderhomey Says:

    At the end of the day 408, I don’t give rats @$$ what they run, just as long as they do run, and I mean run, run, run right, left, up, or out, just run it baby.

  51. Quagmire'd Says:

    Still pissed about Hartwell’s release…he was one of the few with legitimate game experience.

    I noticed on the Raiders website they have Archuleta listed as a LB. Could he be that much better than Hartwell?

    Why not keep him and get rid of someone like Baker or Bowie?

  52. 408RAIDER Says:

    4real Homey but what I realy want to see is Jamarcus turn a bysted play into a long TD to a WR! We already know the three headed monster will do its thing all year we need to pass!

  53. team-of-the_decades Says:

    does any one know where i can catch tonight’s game on net?

  54. 408RAIDER Says:

    my p2p dot com

  55. vegas raider Says:

    Have to spread it out a little tonight, put Jamarcus in some 3-4 wide receiver sets and air it out. Our RB’s and run blocking is legit, we just have to make sure nobody gets hurt. Kiffen will like to challenge the Titans physically a little, but I feel like after every pass Jamarcus gets better, so rack up the tosses tonight!!

  56. 408RAIDER Says:

    all 1 word Team-Of-The_decades

  57. vegas raider Says:

    408: You told me not to do it last week either!! Doobies and parlay tickets is like the only hobby this married man has.

  58. raiderhomey Says:

    Well now 408 my friend, remember back n Dec. against the charge-pukes, we saw Jamarcus make that very throw, albiet to that no-neck punk porter, however, I think during the course of the season, we will see those type of plays more than one would think. And that is because of Jamarcus’s ability to do that quarterback $hit, like stepping up to avoid the rush, or slice over to his right, or left, then hit a wide-out downfield.

  59. SilverNblack666 Says:

    those are two great habits to have Vegas Raider!!

  60. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”A league source tells that Steelers OT Max Starks’ training camp performance “has been among the worst on the entire team. “Pittsburgh doesn’t make many personnel blunders, but guaranteeing Starks $6.895 million via the transition tag may be one. He hasn’t overtaken RT Willie Colon and would be one pricey swing tackle. The Steelers could’ve devoted $500,000 more and retained G Alan Faneca with the franchise tag.”—

    Good we didn’t make a run for him then, I advocated for him, but I’m glad to see him not pan out as I thought, now that we didn’t get him =)

  61. 408RAIDER Says:

    Guess you gotta what you gotta do then Vegas! Take the points good luck brethren

  62. raiderhomey Says:

    By the way, you can tell by the context of post# 49, it is quite obvious that homey just finished burnin a bigg spliff mon.

  63. La Milicia Negra Says:

    lol hahaha well put =)

  64. 408RAIDER Says:

    Yeah waiting till 4 to get my head rite 8) freaking boss wouldnt let me leave early las week but is bouncing @ 3 so ill hang for an hour (just in case) then Im gone!

  65. M Says:

    Flick of the wrist after sidestepping pressure, 35 yard strike to Carter inside the endline, just another day at the office for JaMarcus Franchise.

  66. vegas raider Says:

    Speaking of trick plays, how does Jerry notice that Shane throws a nice ball, he was a high-school QB, and he has never attempted a fake throw ever?? Not when holding on FG or punting. Really, never once?

  67. 408RAIDER Says:

    Vegas

    Jerry was talking about training camp I believe.

  68. La Milicia Negra Says:

    :3H:30M:

  69. La Milicia Negra Says:

    M..

    nah not true..

    I had some specifics all year long, sometimes several subjects to the same position..

    we got two of them, Drew Carter and Gibril Wilson..

    I advocated almost everybody as backup to jammy. Everybody but Culpepper =)

  70. team-of-the_decades Says:

    thanx 408 raider im also from 408 south san jose

  71. RaiderMight Says:

    Steelyone, My priorities are with providing for my family first. More important than anything, and yes including the Raiders. :)

  72. vegas raider Says:

    408: I’m just saying the dude can throw, why not a fake FG once every few years. Sebastian misses half of them from over 40 anyways

  73. raiderhomey Says:

    Yo 408, at 10 min before kick-off the flame will be introduced to the tangerine kush ya no.

  74. East Bay Ray! Says:

    M Says:
    August 15th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
    “La Milicia Negra,

    you advocated taking nearly every breathing NFL FA at one point or another!!!”

    Oh so true, good call M.

    Every time someone became available LMN made a push for them. Just so when 1 or 2 out of the 30 or 40 he mentions ends up on the Raiders or doing good he can say “I was right all along, I told you guys back in January this guy was the one blah blah blah.” followed up by a naudeating “muahahahahaha”

  75. East Bay Ray! Says:

    Homey -

    purple urkle from now and until end of game…

  76. M Says:

    Just funning you LMN

  77. East Bay Ray! Says:

    followed up by a NAUSEATING “muahahahahaha”

  78. East Bay Ray! Says:

    M -

    No truer words have been said in jest

  79. M Says:

    EastBayRay,

    relax, it’s all in the family. Not like some of the Whiner/Shanarat trolls who peek in from time to time to spew.

  80. East Bay Ray! Says:

    just keeping it real M

    I am not a LMN fan, never have been. Yes he’s a Raider fan. A very pompous, arrogant, know it all, never wrong, Anti-American Raider fan.

    What you said was right on the money.

  81. FIRE KIFFIN Says:

    Good point East Bay Ray! But you forgot to mention his nauseating smiley faces at the end of his posts. It’s revolting and not very Raider like.

    Every time someone became available LMN made a push for them. Just so when 1 or 2 out of the 30 or 40 he mentions ends up on the Raiders or doing good he can say “I was right all along, I told you guys back in January this guy was the one blah blah blah.” followed up by a naudeating “muahahahahaha”

    Go Raiders.

  82. East Bay Ray! Says:

    M -

    At least have the stones to stand by your original statement without fear of hurting someone’s feelings with the cold, hard truth about themselves. Perception is reality, I may be perceived as an a$$hole but at least I am honest and able to stand by my statements.

  83. FIRE KIFFIN Says:

    Est Bay ray, You the Man!

    Just Win Baby.

  84. vegas raider Says:

    I expect a long LMN response here shortly

  85. M Says:

    EastBayRay,

    Stones? Laughable. I mean what I write and yet I feel no antagonism at all. LMN advocated 600 free agents which I think is humorous, not denegrating. A raider fan can be cut some slack in my book.
    As far as perception being reality, well, that is one of the worst illusions confronting humankind.

  86. raiderhomey Says:

    Yo East Bay Ray, I gather u ain’t gonna b votin 4 “the annoited messhiah” eh?

  87. East Bay Ray! Says:

    I’m off to go buy some watermelon wraps for the game. Have fun with LMN.

    Look out for the Raiders D this year. I feel a new physical attitude that has been missing for a few years. I’m talking about putting a hurting on fools!

    OK, I’m out

  88. East Bay Ray! Says:

    M -

    you are deeper than I expected. Much respect, especially since you admit that your statement about LMN was true.

    Should I have said grapefruits instead of stones?

    Enjoy the game fellas, even you LMN

  89. raiderhomey Says:

    All bets r off if obama gets elected, if so , grab your firearms and head 4 the high country, the further north the better.

  90. raiderhomey Says:

    Aso, Howard, Morrison, Gallery, Huff, Miller pro-bowl. Read it, live it, see it, now just do it.

  91. 408RAIDER Says:

    Team-Of-The_decades Says:
    August 15th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
    thanx 408 raider im also from 408 south san jose

    West Side on mines! No set trippin ya dig!

  92. 408RAIDER Says:

    Homey Im still ufckin with that grandaddy 8) got the modelo negra in the fridg chillin! Its a beautiful day!

    NATION Pregame starts in 2 hours on 560 ksfo!!

  93. 408RAIDER Says:

    whats with the hyper link east bay ray?

  94. M Says:

    Yes Raider Nation, enjoy the game. As someone posted earlier, we should be able to learn much more of where the Raiders are at from the Titan contest than from a whipping of the EssEffers.

  95. vegas raider Says:

    408 is always bangin the modelo negra

  96. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Vegas Raider..

    I don’t think I’m gonna bother with it, EBR has been on my case ever since he turned up here.. and Fire Kiffin, yeah his name says it all, so why bother =)

  97. La Milicia Negra Says:

    EBR..

    “Enjoy the game fellas, even you LMN”

    thanks, I hope..

  98. vegas raider Says:

    We gotta be nice to LMN, who else are we going to get European civil war history from?

  99. La Milicia Negra Says:

    LOL, true.. Dakota might make a try =)

  100. 408RAIDER Says:

    whats up with that ? inthe blue square in my post #92?

    Hell yeah Vegas Modelo Negra is 1 of my favorite beers!!

    Some1 is trolling hard tryin to hate on LMN

  101. 408RAIDER Says:

    alright who broke the site again

  102. Coach on Wheels Says:

    The criticism of Seabass is another of those, “If we’d drafted him in the 3rd round we’d be talking about what a steal he was.” guys.

    He is THE BEST kickoff man in a league that has many “kickoff specialists” wasting roster spots.

    He is near perfect from inside 40 yards. Gee, that is what you’d expect from any kicker in the NFL.

    He struggles from 40+ is not entirely true. From 40-49 yards he is an average NFL kicker.

    BUT -

    He struggles from 50+ and that drags his stats and reputation down. People who actually follow the NFL know guys like Vinateri may attempt 1 or 2 50+ FG’s a season. Jano may try TEN! In the Denver game he hit from 50+, then got Shanny’d and hit the upright on the 2nd try. WAKE UP! Half the teams in the NFL are throwing HailMary passes in that situation. Jano gives us a shot from beyond 50 few other kickers do.

    Watch where the Titans are taking in kickoffs tonight. Last week it was between the 15-25 yard line. Jano is practicaly a member of our defense with his kickoffs.

    Jano-
    Kickoffs – Best in NFL
    Under 40 FG’s – Average
    40-49 yards – Average
    50+ #1 in attempts and made

    Yeah, he stinks.

  103. La Milicia Negra Says:

    .2H:30M.

  104. LosT Says:

    Where in the world is Stuey Schweigert?

  105. 408RAIDER Says:

    LosT

    we must not speek that name in here!

  106. La Milicia Negra Says:

    LMN has to figure out what to kill the time with.. Colbert Report from yesterday or Poker..

  107. Coach on Wheels Says:

    I hope Lechler gets more standing around time in the regular season. That’ll mean the offense is actually moving the ball.

  108. La Milicia Negra Says:

    LosT..

    I think he is in the metro in NY begging for jobs..

  109. vegas raider Says:

    I agree COW, as much fun as it is to watch him punt sometimes, once or twice a game will suffice

  110. CasperGhost Says:

    Sounds good Coach, just as long as it isn’t because of turn overs.

  111. CasperGhost Says:

    Then it would be nice to see Seabass only kicking the PAT

  112. Quagmire'd Says:

    In the metro begging for jobs? What is he Jamaican?

  113. LosT Says:

    D-Dawg at Quarterback??? Thanks 909…

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-farmer15-2008aug15,0,797755.story

  114. LosT Says:

    408, LMN…

    Just having having fun on stueys behalf (where in the world is carmen sandiego)…Bored and can’t wait for kickoff…

  115. Quagmire'd Says:

    D-Dawg? How was that name conjured up?

  116. Batman Says:

    Are we nervous Raider Nation ? Will we stop the run tonight ? Will we be able to run the ball tonight ? Will Jarmarc hit the mark tonight ? WERE GOING TO DO IT ALL TONIGHT BABY ! I told catwomen get ready for batmans victory spanking tonight! RAIDERS KICK SOME ASS!

  117. 408RAIDER Says:

    freaking pats are gonna sign Lynch

  118. LosT Says:

    Quag…

    McFadden was interviewed on the radio the other day. He was called DMac by the interviewer and then asked “Is DMac ok or What do you like to be called”?

    Mcfaddens answer was “I’m D-DAWG, Always Have Been. Thats what the fellas call me, my teamates and family call me. But If you want to call me Dmac, then I’ll let you.”

    So the man wants to be called D-Dawg then so be it…

  119. This Just In Says:

    Pats signed Old Man Lynch 1 year 1.5 mil

  120. Quagmire'd Says:

    Thanks LosT…i thought it was kinda gay.

  121. 408RAIDER Says:

    Where’s Dakota? I haven’t had a picture laugh all day

  122. 408RAIDER Says:

    Raiders pregame on 560 ksfo now

  123. Scottish Raider Says:

    For salary/CAP addicts only, Fox have just updated the current payroll commitments for the 32 teams:

    1 49ers $123,820,036
    2 Redskins $122,668,964
    3 Saints $116,132,251
    4 Browns $112,000,964
    5 Patriots $109,262,118
    6 Ravens $108,349,722
    7 Lions $108,005,332
    8 Broncos $107,618,050
    9 Jets $107,519,404
    10 Cowboys $106,662,942
    11 Colts $105,442,196
    12 Rams $104,665,747
    13 Seahawks $104,503,069
    14 Bills $103,851,660
    15 Titans $103,437,665
    16 Steelers $103,274,123
    17 Raiders $102,315,072
    18 Chargers $102,065,225
    19 Texans $101,097,634
    20 Bears $99,415,911
    21 Eagles $98,918,649
    22 Cardinals $98,330,390
    23 Chiefs $98,313,525
    24 Buccaneers $97,928,904
    25 Vikings $95,266,630
    26 Jaguars $88,060,571
    27 Bengals $86,962,384
    28 Panthers $85,660,041
    29 Packers $84,354,106
    30 Giants $84,175,343
    31 Falcons $78,591,241
    32 Dolphins $75,819,770

    A word of caution, these payrolls aren’t 100% kosher, because contracts are always being restructured. The good news is that we are a respectable and sensible 17th. Our CAP isn’t quite so healthy, because we have some heavy future commitments to JR, DMac, Huff, Miller, etc. But we do still have some scope for talent shopping.

    Unlike those idiots across the Bay!!!

  124. raiderhomey Says:

    I don’t know about ya’ll, but what I want 2 c alot of this season is, 8 min drives resulting n 6. one or two of those and the defense is all done, especially after the quick int via Howard, Morrison, Aso,Hall, Huff, by the way 408, huff 1 4 me bro, it’s almost 4:20 on the west coast, so close 2 toast time, titans will b ground up like big-mac patties.

  125. LosT Says:

    Quag,

    Didn’t like it either, but thats what he likes…

    Coaches name is Monte Lane Kiffin Jr., but he goes by Lane.

  126. 408RAIDER Says:

    george atkinson sounds drunk all the time! or his toung is too big 4 his mouth

  127. El Dirty Says:

    It’s on in 2 hours!!!!! I hope I am wrong about everything I have said about the passing game! leaving work in 1 hour and turning off the phone, getting a carne burrito, 12 pack off Corona, feeding the dog and locking the door!

  128. La Milicia Negra Says:

    El Dirty..

    is it me does time go slower the closer we come?

  129. raiderhomey Says:

    Geez Scottish, u must really like 2 type, why don’t u type up a few eulogies, starting with the first three 4 the charge-pukes, donk-d!ks, queef-coppers!!!

  130. Los Malosos Says:

    Less than 2 hrs to game time baby! Six pack of Tecatito! hahahaha! We shoulda kicked their butts last season, JRock & D-Dawg will do us right this time around….animo razita!

  131. 408RAIDER Says:

    Homey 1 4 you on the way home on 101! freaking hate traffic a swisher will get me home tho

  132. El Dirty Says:

    LMN

    Longest hour ever!!! Reminds me of school!!!

  133. La Milicia Negra Says:

    El Dirty…

    true LOL =)

  134. raidernathan Says:

    Looking forward to this year. I have a good feeling the Raider Nation will be celebrating a lot this year.

    Some of you, who I won’t name, seem like they would rather be right than be winning. I’m all for trying to keep things real and on paper this team should make the playoffs. But we know games are played on the field. This team has the makings of putting together a successful year. Successful doesn’t need to be playoffs, just a HUGE improvement over the last few years, which include more wins. For me, 8-8 would be a successful year. Anything greater than that would exceed my expectations. And quite frankly I want my expectations exceeded. And with this schedule, they can very well do that.

    One other thing. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, good or bad, right or wrong. But that’s what makes it an opinion, because they could be good and right to some, bad and wrong to others. But we are all Raider fans and we can agree to that.

    Here’s to the Raiders for finishing the year with a better winning percentage than the previous 5 years combine.

  135. El Dirty Says:

    Raidernathan

    Well said…

  136. El Dirty Says:

    LMN

    Lad os drikke til fremtiden for vores elskede hold … Gå Raiders!

  137. 408RAIDER Says:

    Mcfadden & Harris comming up on pre gam! This is the hardcore Kool-aid for all us homers in the nation

  138. 408RAIDER Says:

    dirty huh?

  139. vegas raider Says:

    My wife calls George Atkinson “marble mouth” and I think it is her highlight of preseason, watching and listening to his sideline reports

  140. El Dirty Says:

    I cheat when I talk to LMN

    http://www.google.com/ig?hl=en

  141. RaiderMight Says:

    0 days, 1 hours, 33 minutes, and 32 seconds left until the Oakland Raiders visits the Tennesse Titans.

  142. 408RAIDER Says:

    Yo dirty how bout a flick?

  143. The NEWS Says:

    LOL regarding the Atkinson comments. Dude needs to be pulled from the TV coverage. Heck – pull him from radio too.

    I appreciate all the Kool-aid he prepares for us Raider fans but the man can’t speak coherently. I get embarrassed just watching him.

  144. Terrapin Says:

    Sticking with the theme …For all you’s Youtube fanatics …you can check TBranch out on is 2 KRs for TDs last year. 27 returns 780yds 2TDs in ‘07

    Skip the noise

    vs Rutgers 50secs into vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PftZR_9QvIE

  145. Terrapin Says:

    vs Akron 1:50secs into vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7XRj0kZRMg

  146. Terrapin Says:

    Hope Branch turns out to be what they think he can be as a KR.

  147. 408RAIDER Says:

    Get well soon Plunkett! Dude had surgery on both knees! Ouch

  148. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    im with you Los Malosos but instead of tecatones voy a tomar Bohemia, my favorite beer!

  149. Joey Bee 1 Says:

    Branch will be All-Pro in 2 years.

  150. Joey Bee 1 Says:

    With Namdi and DeAngelo in camp, everyone will get better.

  151. Quagmire'd Says:

    Hey 408, did Al fit the bill for those surgeries?

  152. Oakglenn Says:

    Screw the Tennessee Tight-asses. Time to kick some country music hick ass.

  153. Quagmire'd Says:

    Dude’s name is Hummer…lol…listening to KSFO.

  154. Joey Bee 1 Says:

    Fargas, McFadden, Bush = HB “U” or HB”Central”

  155. 408RAIDER Says:

    Quag

    I dont know they just said he had them both replaced on the pre game Kool-Aid Fix! 560ksfo.com

    Kwami sounds like a european dude! Veary wellspoken tho!!

    Kirk & Nnamdi are up next

  156. Terrapin Says:

    I don’t know about that. Branch will still be trying to learn the safety position in 2 years!

  157. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    anyone here about bearnie mac passing away. that dude was funny back in the day. friday and don’t be menace to south central while drink juice in the hood “you think you tuff! i hate blackpepper,woopy goldbergs lips, forest whitakers neck uggg, and most of all i hate that black ass wesley snipes” but most of his new stuff was lame. r.i.p

  158. 408RAIDER Says:

    OH Yeah! The Recieving dude just gave me a six pack of corona and told me to get my Raider on!!

  159. Joey Bee 1 Says:

    Branch has NFL speed and can tackle with the best of them, watch.

  160. edward teach Says:

    Don’t know, Terp. Maybe Joey meant as a special teamer? That sounds a lot more realistic.

  161. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    corona is not a good beer, its piss water. 51% of corona is owned by what used to be anheiser busch. i’d rather drink tecates than corona.

  162. Tonzino Says:

    Tommy Harris? is he Hartwell Browns cousin?

  163. Joey Bee 1 Says:

    Branch will hold it down.

  164. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    but i wouldn’t refused a six pack of anything if someone gave it to me for free not even budlight

  165. RaiderMight Says:

    Tonzino Says:
    August 15th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
    Tommy Harris? is he Hartwell Browns cousin?

    ———-

    Yeah. He got big money today for his ability to “get off the ball”.

  166. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dude free beer is the best beer ever! ur trippin brethren

  167. vegas raider Says:

    Hey free beer is free beer

  168. Tonzino Says:

    Buuuud Ligh?

  169. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    where can i get a hartwell brown jersey? they don’t have any at the image store

  170. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    where can i get a hartwell brown jersey? they don’t have any at the image store.

  171. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    lite

  172. Joey Bee 1 Says:

    Branch is better then Stanford right now!
    If he gets time, he will produce.

  173. 408RAIDER Says:

    NoLuv4Hoes

    now ur talkin my language!

    These guys on the raido are killing me

  174. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    any beer from balast point brewery is a good beer.

  175. RaiderMight Says:

    Got some nice cold Coronas’ waiting for me at home.

  176. vegas raider Says:

    Out of here fellas, enjoy the modelo’s 408, going to throw on the old Luniz “I’m a Raider” on the way home to get pumped. Raiders baby I’m in!!!

  177. saintkaufman Says:

    What’s up nation??

    It’s game day, left work early to hit the beer store and I am so ready to see the next phase in Kiff’s plan for OUR team.

    I think we’re looking at a higher scoring game today. Maybe 30+ for The Raiders.

    Afternoon 408 and Terrapin.

    GO RAIDERS!!!!

  178. Huff24 Says:

    60 Minutes from Gametime!

  179. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    any beer bottled by montezuma bottling is good.

  180. 408RAIDER Says:

    Later Vegas1

    Sup Saint are you ready for this game or what? I hope your rite! Ill check back when I get home Im about to sneek out the side door!!

  181. Tonzino Says:

    Anyone else find it weird that Papa works for the SF Giants postgame?

  182. Joey Bee 1 Says:

    Im looking at that Strong side Line backer competition. We have a heard of them trying out and right now I like what I see in Jon Alston and Robert Thomas. If Archuleta steps in and proves he’s All-Pro then we might be on to something. Sam Williams where you at? Cut.

  183. r8dr4lfe Says:

    Dos xx and Pacifico are the best
    with some carnitas and aguacate’s

  184. saintkaufman Says:

    Pacifico all day R8dr4lfe.

    KK, crack a whole bunch of cold ones first!!!

  185. r8dr4lfe Says:

    I dont need beer and the lady’s are looking good there having a carwash next door to my work looking dam fine

  186. Fo Shiggidy Says:

    KK -

    You got that right there sonny boy!

  187. r8dr4lfe Says:

    Pacifico with papitas aguacate’s limon metalica playing in the backround UNFORGIVEN our RAIDERS on the tube or should i say on the wall

  188. r8dr4lfe Says:

    Oops almost forgot the hippie lettuce roll it up men lets do it

  189. Fo Shiggidy Says:

    fire that sheett up man, do your thug thizzle all dizzle fo shiggidy, with that sticky icky icky, ya heard?

    ain’t that right KoolKell?

    Paaaaarrrrddddnnnneeeeerrrrr!

  190. DirtyBathWater Says:

    Can ne one in here get the game online? P2p or sumthin?

  191. 909raiderlifer Says:

    The Patron is in the freezer, the beer is on ice, getting COLD. Good to go.

    If, he gets the start. The most important player tonight, will be “Super” Mario. He had best make sure Russ does NOT get flattened.

  192. KoolKell Says:

    lol, I was being facietious.

  193. saintkaufman Says:

    Televised locally here in the NW on Fox. Sorry bro!

  194. Huff24 Says:

    I don’t think we can really put any stock in veterans signed by the Raiders anymore. Donovin Darius, Edgerton Hartwell, Greg Wesley. I’d like to say that Archuleta can make this team but nothing is guarenteed. We’ll just have to wait and see.

  195. DirtyBathWater Says:

    Damn I need to see this action! So there are no links of a broadcast on the computer screen ?!,!!,? Im gonna cry the games gonna start soon

  196. 408RAIDER Says:

    DBW I posted a link on the next thread hurry up b4 the mods get it

  197. Voldemort Says:

    I thought it was nationally televised? It’s on fox in Reno…

  198. 909raiderlifer Says:

    DBW…

    No t.v.? Game is a National broadcast on Fox.

    Can’t help w/ the link. (sorry). Saw it either back up this thread or on the last thread. Good luck..

  199. Riverside Raiders Fan Says:

    Stupid ass Javon can’t catch a ball right on his hands…what the heck…We would have 1st and ten on the 30 or 40…Good on the blitzing…two in a row…nice going defense.

  200. ghost to the post Says:

    Hall returning punts = more games won… He is a star because of what he does with, as opposed to without the ball

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