Live chat pushed back to 3:30 p.m.!
By Jon Becker
Tuesday, September 9th, 2008 at 1:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.
FYI,
Sorry for the inconvenience, but we’re going to need to move today’s scheduled live blog with Jerry McDonald back to a 3:30 p.m. start time.
Lane Kiffin’s press conference with the media today will be at 2 p.m., so we didn’t want to have a chat until Jerry and the crew had a chance to get some answers from the coach himself.
So you at 3:30 p.m.!
Jon Becker
BANG-EB Online Sports Editor
(Update: Live chat link is http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_10418817)
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September 9th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
1st
September 9th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
RAIDER NATION WILL ARISE!
September 9th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
the site sucks I cant post all day!
September 9th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
you are not going to get any answers from Kiffie…
just clever “it’s everyone else’s fault” bullschitt…
“if only i could have all those guys that played in Hawaii last year… what were those guys called ???”
oh yeah…
Pro-Bowlers
September 9th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I love Al but this franchise is not ran like a professional sports franchise. As far as Al goes he needs to retire, and let his son run the team hands off of course. Fire RR and have te oakland police arrest him for impersonating a DCO…..
F@CK Rob ryan
Only news i want to hear is that Rob Ryan was fired last nite….
September 9th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I wonder how long it will be before we see Breaking News across the bottom screen of ESPN saying Lane Kiffin out as Raiders coach. James Lofton to resume as interim coach for remainder of season, and Rob Ryan to resume as D-cordinator.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
408RAIDERS what do you wear to the games?
September 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
This is good. Because Jerry was going to get hammered with a bunch of questions he wouldn’t have an answer to, and now he can just quote the coach. By the way, what’s the spread on Kiffin quitting during the press conference?….lol just kidding, I know he won’t.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
News conference from the Oakland Alemeda head quarters. It was confirmed that AL Davis has retired. Subsequent to davis retirement, Defensive coordinator Rob ryan has retired also.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Einstein Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
You know what really pisses me off, the morons that think they run this blog like Dakota, Oakglenn, 408, SNB666 etc.. and most of them aren’t anywhere to be found today, besides a few posts here and there. These are the same jerk offs that run their mouths in here spewing out garbage and trashing MR. Yet MR is the only one with real facts this morning. Is our fan base deteriorating with Al’s age?
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who ever said that BS? What a clown why don’t you and tard boy get a room!
September 9th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Kiffie will never walk away from this job…
it pays more in one year than he will make in 20 years in his next job…
College of the Canyons is probably looking for a “defensive quality control undertaker specialist”…
September 9th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
What do you wear to the games 408RAIDER?
September 9th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
einstien 408 is a cool Bro, he doenst bother no one nor does he have a attitude. 408 is a good NATION Bro…
September 9th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Long season ahead of us folks. The fans showed up like always, but the D was no where in sight.
So disappointed right now. I hope my news ticker soon reads “Rob Ryan out as Raiders coordinator.”
September 9th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Einstein Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
You know what really pisses me off, the morons that think they run this blog like Dakota, Oakglenn, 408, SNB666 etc.. and most of them aren’t anywhere to be found today, besides a few posts here and there.
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I was on here all night last night and this entire morning, so suck my dik.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Einstein Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
408RAIDERS what do you wear to the games?
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Dude your creeping me out! I where Jeans or shorts A home jersey ( I have many) and a hat! No I don’t where make up or some gay as costume!
September 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Post 14:
You couldn’t have said it better Dakota…. You just proved my point.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
is there a comment 11 by Florida Pete ???
September 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Now Rob ryan, that idiot is not a cool member of the NATION. How do you npot blitz cutler? WTF kinda defense was that ryan. Someone needs to beat the hell out of ryan for that display…. I am not an advocate of violience but based on that performance i do take exception.
what is our D scheme a 4…..7.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
408RAIDER, lol, ok bro, just checking mang.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Drop Rob Ryan off in east oakland or richmond….
September 9th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Einstein Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Post 14:
You couldn’t have said it better Dakota…. You just proved my point.
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WTF is your problem?
September 9th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Al Davis is a ja@%$ss! As long as he remains in power, this team/organization will go nowhere! Our horrid “D” is a direct result of his unwillingness to allow Ryan to blitz. Jay Cutler doesn’t even have to get his uniform cleaned for the next game. A little bit of pressure would go a long way!
September 9th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Good thing you don’t wear a costume. I’m getting really tired of those fools dressing up like morons. Since when did “Pin Head” have anything to do with the Raiders? I even saw some dude dressed up like Gene Simmons, WTF?
September 9th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
there definately has to be a change on the defensive coaching staff.
kiffin couldnt do no more but coach. we have a QB that started his 2nd game of his career. overthrown balls and it didnt help the dropped balls by the WRS.
it seems like we have to pass to open up the run.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
thanx thec I hold you in high regards also!
Einstein is that the only name you use in here? And I only bash on tard boy when he jacks the screen names of my brethren or talks in circles about the same isht! If you don’t like it thats your problem dude.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Thec we don’t have a D scheme…
September 9th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
408RAIDER.. I always use Einstein, always have. And personally I don’t think MR is the culprite of hijacking ALL the time. Not defending him, but he did make some good points this morning.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
what is the status on paul Mquin and burgess…anyone know??
September 9th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
man we got a monster hurricane headed my way. i think i might miss my first game in 9 years due to this. its suppose to hit saturday morning. my home and town arent ready for this…..we are still recovering from hurricane dolly………..THIS SUCKS WORSE THAN RYANS PLAY CALLING LAST NIGHT!
September 9th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
There is some strange sh!t going on in our Raider Nation. Last night just didn’t feel right, nothing worked, and everything failed. Our line backers were non-existant, D Hall got torched by a fuggin rookie, Huff wiffed, Wilson wiffed, our tackling was poor, and we didn’t execute on a single play.
We were not prepared and out coached, by what I STILL consider a mediocre team. We made Dungver look extremely good last night through our complete and utter dysfunction. Something has to change. Personally I can’t take this sh!t anymore, I take it personal, this is MY team and MY life. This is completely unacceptable.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
You know, even pro bowl players reach a point where the game passes them by. So what makes us think that someone like Al doesn’t have such point? When players can’t play anymore they retire. That doesn’t take away from how much they know of the game, or how good they were in their prime, it just meanst that it’s time for them to pass the torch to the next star in waiting. Just like Andre the Giant did with Hogan, and like Hogan did with The Rock. You know your time is up, and all the greats step down gracefully to make way for the new generation.
Al Davis doesn’t seem to have this mentality however. Don’t get me wrong, if anything, I would consider my self an Al supporter, for all the things he has done. After all, without him there wouldn’t be the Raiders, or NFL for that matter. But after seeing him last night up in his booth, with a towel on over his legs, and barely moving, it became very obvious to me that his time is up, and like every other great leader, he should step down and pass the torch. He has a son, that most of us don’t ever hear from, waiting in line. IF he wants to keep the team in the family, than what better way to do it than to pass it on to him. Now I’m not saying his son is going to turn this franchise around over night, but I’m hoping that he has a clearer mind and can see that what this team needs is a complete do over from the top. And if not Mark, than who?
September 9th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I wish we had an owner that had the balls to face the media. Mr. tough guy Al Davis hides in his hole all year and only creeps out to introduce his next victim, I mean HC.
What a chickensheet. Al owes us answers.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
ite nation at least we can complain and cuss out the staff and owner together haha we will take out the chiefs next week if we dont i stop posting on this site until the raiders make the playoffs thats my word peace.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
I agree 100% Dakota, but, I think the reality is obvious in the fact that AL COULD GIVE A SH!T LESS ABOUT US!!
Thats obvious in the complete and utter destruction of the team, colors, and franchise we all worship and love.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Shanarat’s IQ, vs Rob Ryan’s IQ in a battle of wits. Case closed. Might be a rat but definately outclassed Ryan.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
He outclassed our whole organization and every aspect of the game, not just Ryan.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Einstein…I agree, I got a wierd vibe too. I think there are a lot of things going on in the locker room (i.e. in fighting between players-coaches, players-players, coaches-management) that we are not privy too. Coach Kiffin did not look himself last night, he seemed emotionally exhausted…..and its only Week 1 !!!!
I hope I’m wrong, I’ve been wrong before.
Seth
Raider Fan since 1982
September 9th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
I never disrespect my brethren but I also take offense when some troll comes in here talking smack to the NATION especially after a loss.. Plus tard boy acts like a when ever the enemy invades our blog Its hard to have respect for a guy like that ya know!
September 9th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
If Lane gets fired I will stop having any contact with the Raiders.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
mcfaddenswaggon Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
ite nation at least we can complain and cuss out the staff and owner together haha we will take out the chiefs next week if we dont i stop posting on this site until the raiders make the playoffs thats my word peace.
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You would only be hurting Jerry, not Al. I still say any person caught going to the next Raiders’ home game should be dragged into the street and beaten for supporting Al.
No more games, no more jerseys, no more watching the Raiders on TV…force Al to leave Oakland and then sue the pants off him to keep the rights to the Raiders’ name, colors and history in Oakland. It worked for the Browns, it can work for Oakland.
Who cares if the NFL never puts a team back in Oakland, at least Al will not longer be able to destroy the Raiders.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Einstein, toyr right we dont have a scheme. we look like a bunch of guys running around.
The play that sticks in my head the most was the hand off between fargas and higgins, I ask you guys WTF was that.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Oh My God The Sky Is Falling.One game does not make a season.If we loose to the Chiefs then indeed the sky is falling.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
man we got a monster hurricane headed my way. i think i might miss my first game in 9 years due to this. its suppose to hit saturday morning. my home and town arent ready for this…..we are still recovering from hurricane dolly………..THIS SUCKS WORSE THAN RYANS PLAY CALLING LAST NIGHT!
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Be safe STR!
September 9th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
raider fan Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Oh My God The Sky Is Falling.One game does not make a season.If we loose to the Chiefs then indeed the sky is falling.
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You must have watched a different game last night, lol. We were heartless, clueless and weak. You really can’t fix that during a season.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Einstein Post #30
I have to agree with you bro. I DVR’d the game and just finished watching it. Got so mad (for the 2nd time), I deleted that sh!t. Like everyone’s said here, I really don’t understand the playcalling from the D-side. But also, if you think about it, what’s up with the depth chart??!!
Everyone agrees, Curry is a mediocre slot guy at this point in his career. Why not start a rookie who can help offset inexperience with youthful speed and agility. Both the Eagles and the Donks went with rook WRs opening game and it turned out well. Sooo, if not Schilens @ WR, what was up with deactivating Todd Watkins. I know I’ve ripped Ryan (well-deserved) but that 4th down attempt in OUR own redzone??!!
Hate to say it but I’m starting to believe that Kiff is in full rebellion mode and he just wants to get out… get fired… get paid and never come back. Sad thing is, now everyone leaves this franchise with that attitude.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Fargas threw the ball AT Higgins. He should have set up a soft pitch where Higgins runs into the ball via vertical motion. Instead Fargs tossed the ball at Higgins. Thats not how that play runs, the back needs to place the ball at a spot where the receiver catches the ball in motion. Simple football 101.
However, did you see where Higgins was? Flat out in the middle of the dirt infield, he wouldn’t have been able to turn the corner at full speed due to the dirt. That was a bad play call.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Rob ryan step down now.
Al Davis step down now.
Mark davis assume the role of owner and hire a GM.
Mark davis fire the personel department.
Give Lane Kiffin the latitude to coach.
Did you guys see the way ryan was looking at kiffin.
Ryan is not a member of the NATION. He conspires with the enemy, he is the enemy.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Yeah last nights game was horrible. I was not expecting that. Last year we played Denver very well. I was expecting to see the defense play at least decent but they didnt even do that. To bad they didnt let Rob Ryan leave the team. His defense was horrible. People were out of position getting torched all night. Having said that they careless mistakes dont help either. We are not a team that can come back from mistakes like that. Man J.L.Higgins is one of those guys who makes you say wow 1 minute and wtf are u doing the next
September 9th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I bet Al woke up this morning and had his assistant kick him in the ass for not listening to Kiff on firing Ryan. I would like to know, what the hell was that, all summer we have been in here wondering about the offense and the whole time we should have been wondering about the D. I hope some of you guys that live in Oakland put up some missing person signs this morning.
LOST:
OAKLANDS DEFENSE
LAST SEEN:
KICKING ASS AND TAKING NAMES
WEARING:
SILVER AND BLACK
IF FOUND:
RETURN TO AL DAVIS IMMEDIATELY!
P.S. Al, all I want for Xmas is a good D coord.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Namdi said the Donks called some plays they had not seen before….ok. But every team does this every week. And it’s the defensive coaches job to improvise for such schemes and change their play calling in order to better defend against what the offense might be doing differently than usual. Last night there was no improvising. There was no adapting, or even changing the play calling. How can you get burned for 99 yards and a TD by a rookie WR in the first half, and not improvise and adapt for the second half? I don’t think Hall is that bad. And if he is, oh boy….did we make a huge mistake on bringing him in.
Personally, I am tired of performances like this. When you go to a concert, and it sucks, most artists will refund you your money, this game falls in that category.
But I will still give Ryan one more shot next week. KC’s offense is not Denver’s offense, and if our D performs like it did yesterday, than I will jump in with the rest of you calling for Rob’s head. The only reason for me giving him one more chance, is because I take into account that play calling is one thing, and execution is another. But at some point, you have to take the two and see which is worse, and for me, that point is next week against KC.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
ill try 408. that sucker hasnt hit the gulf of mexico yet. dont know if you know this but the gulf is filled with warm water which is like adding fuel to a fire. it suppose to gain strength as it blows over the gulf.
there is some small towns that are still under water from dolly….man its gonna get ugly.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
It was well known that Kiffin’s game plan was to control the ball and not let the donkey’s get a lead as not to put pressure on JaMarcus. Great job Ryan. Do us all a favor and pull your head out of your arse so you can see what is going on in the game.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
We cannot lose to the chefs, I have tickets for gods sake!!!!!!
September 9th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Where was MBUSH?
Chaz was making plays where was he?
Walker got any words for the NATION?
Kiffin what say you?
Rob Ryan you mindless f2ck you dont need to speak.
No i disagree the sky is not fallen, it has fallen….
rey mauluga, or michael crabtree. How many picks do we have next year. Fu@K i love this team but F@VCK
September 9th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Where is the link to the live chat? Would some please post it.
I had to listen to the game on the radio with Dennis Green, He is horrible, I had to turn it off before he said “We are who we thought we were”
September 9th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
This conference better be about someone being fired.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
My boy Chaz deserves to be on the field! JLH is not the answer as much as I like curry for being a loyal raider he needs to go to slow and now he cant catch and please can we get some bush action! FUK
September 9th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Sky has fallen? F@ck that, we don’t have a f@ucking sky, this team is dead, and I don’t know how it can recover.
I have been a fan since I was a little boy, and other than the Bills loss in the playoffs, I can’t recall a game where we played worse than last night. We didn’t have heart, and our soul was sitting in a booth with a towel over his legs with some ugly a$$ hag standing behind him. What is happening to us?
September 9th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I thought they already had the conference, is there another one? If so it could be bad…..
September 9th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
The defensive scheme didn’t look bad on Nnamdi’s side of the field, did it? You guys have it all wrong. It would look like we had good defensive schemes all around if we had the personnel to execute the plays properly.
I’m sorry, but DeAngelo hall is stupid and a bad football “player”. He has no instincts whatsoever. For some insane reason, he started breaking toward post when Cutler dropped that fade over his head into Royal’s hands along the end zone’s right sideline – EVEN THOUGH HE WAS F#CKING LOOKING AT ROYAL’S BACK. He’s the type of player that looks like a genius in 1 out of every 50 plays when he makes a pick. He’s not intimidating, like a Nnamdi or Champ. He’s a loser who brought his losing ways to a team that didn’t need any more of that crap.
It doesn’t matter what scheme you put out there if you have stupid, crappy “players”. You’re going to lose.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
408, your right Bro chaz was my darkhorse also. He played well but didnt get a lot of run. WTF is up with walker….. did he give the money back?
The news confrence should be about Ryan getting arrested by oakland PD for impersonationg a Defensive coordinator.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Fat Daddy, Jerry pushed the Live Chat back to 3:30 west coast time.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Nnamdi will force his way out of Oakland by refusing to sign a long-term deal and just taking the Franchise deal at 20% raises each year to cripple our cap…can you blame him? Read the last part of this article…wait, I will just paste it below the link…
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/raiders/2008-08-26-cornerback_N.htm
“I don’t know how tired the other guys are, but I’m extremely tired of losing,” Asomugha says. “I don’t know if there’s too many people in the Raiders organization that have an insatiable desire to win as I much as I do.”
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Nnamdi knows how cancerous this organization is…he is as good as gone as soon as he can make it happen. His bro, C-Wood is calling him from GB and telling him how great things are outside of Oakland…thanks for the time with us Nnamdi…you are the man and I wish you happiness elsewhere.
September 9th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Rob Ryan looks like a Raider fan. Hopefully soon, that’s all he’ll be!!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
I like the rest of the nation I am completely outraged for witnessing the fiasco that unvieled last night until 1:30Am on the east coast. All of our observations(and Jerry’s)are correct. The D with the talent we do have with exception of a better D line is unacceptable!! Nmamdi exculded! Ryan’s head should be on the block at this point. If Al Davis is indeed calling the D plays then he needs to go. Like ditka said last night–players play and coaches coach. I have seen better D from this squad without DHall;therefore, it goes back to ryan! If AD is allowing play calling freedom then ryan should definitely be outta here(no blitzs,substitutions,etc).
If not then Al needs to go!!
I believe in Kiffin as in the beginning, he may be conservative at times but he is trying to develop the young marque players. He calls it like it is, roster with little talent and inability to bring in appropriate competition. Again, personel issues on the shoulders of AD and the front office. WE are the best fans of a storied franchise and derserve better than this garbage. HE is the head coach and let him act like one and if he leaves because of this AD BS I will not blame him. Then there will be another HC of a team that will routinely kick our tail! Can not wait to here the Kiff press conference!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
that move that royal put on hall took what 5, 6 ,7 seconds…… Who in the NFL gets 7 seconds to throw?
Ball supposed to be out in 3 cutler had 5,6,7,8 secs. he could have hit me in the open…..
September 9th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
RaidingTexas Says: Post 61
“It doesn’t matter what scheme you put out there if you have stupid, crappy “players”. You’re going to lose.”
Hasn’t D Hall been to the Pro Bowl? Aren’t these stupid, crappy, players NFL players on NFL teams? How can it not matter whast scheme you put out there? The scheme is everthing dude. The scheme places the strenghtes of players at the right positions, and protects the deficiancies through deception and compensation. The lack of talent isn’t a profound statement. A successful D coordinator must have the ability to adapt his defense to the personell. However, we don’t have D coordinator.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
No blitzes, no pressure at all, the whole game from Rob Ryan. In the pre-season you saw a lot of early blitzes from Howard and Morrison which established a tangible fear to the opposing QB’s. The First Team defense gave up no scores during the pre-season. Then last night Denver marched down the field and scored on their first posession. No hurries, no tipped balls, just soft coverage. It was like they were playing the prevent defense for the entire game. It just makes no sense to me, why the defense played it like that. The whole thing just smells fishy.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Einstein Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Sky has fallen? F@ck that, we don’t have a f@ucking sky, this team is dead, and I don’t know how it can recover.
I have been a fan since I was a little boy, and other than the Bills loss in the playoffs, I can’t recall a game where we played worse than last night. We didn’t have heart, and our soul was sitting in a booth with a towel over his legs with some ugly a$$ hag standing behind him. What is happening to us?
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“…with some ugly a$$ hag standing behind him.”
Lol, I know, I thought maybe that was a hospice nurse or something….
September 9th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Good point Thec #67! Even the move he made on Nnamdi was like straight outta playground! It wasn’t even a recogizable pattern and he got the time to just adlib into the open!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Hospice nurse? My Gawd bro, that looked like something from the after life, all she need was a sythe.
I would cancel whatever health insurance I was using if they provided a hospice nurse that looked like death. She scared the sh!te out of me.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Dakota,
Just to make you feel better about life, Kobe opted to not have surgery on his pinkie until after the season as he says “he has unfinished busines and he doesn’t want to miss training camp and the start of the season.”
September 9th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Where can we get live coverage of the “press conference?”
September 9th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Was that AD’s wife behind him?
September 9th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Conference going on now with Kiffin:
This just in:
“Both me and Rob, all the players in the locker room, and the fans with pitchforks outside this building, are taking a stance against Al “Hitler” Davis. We will no longer stand by and witness the genocide of this organization. So either Al goes, or we all go.”
Just kidding, but by what some of you have been saying about last night seeming a little weird, now that I think about it, it kind of did. Which is why I said what I said above, what if, the coaches were taking a stance against Al? I don’t think so either… but the play calling yesterday makes you wonder this type of things… sorry.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Someone, maybe a player from the raiders of old, should step up and talk with Al Davis, telling him its time to let go and retire.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
I would hope they wouldn’t do that to the players though Raider11680. If I was a player and they did, I would be pissedddddd…
September 9th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Does Al Davis even know he’s still alive?
September 9th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
I heard Mucus Allan on Colin Coward this morning, and Mucus didn’t really say anything about the current state, Colin even set him up to fire bombs at Al, but Mucus just said the team doesn’t have player leadership.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
I know, its Marcus Allen, I work with a dude named Allan, thats why I mis-spelled his name, my bad.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Why are the former players like Marcus Allen afraid of Davis?
September 9th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
They don’t call him “Godfather” for nothing, that’s why.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Raider11680 – Post 76
Here’s my theory my man, I think you off just a tad. Kiff is in full-blown rebellion against Ol Wrinkled Al and wants to be terminated at the bye. Ryan is in full-blown rebellion against Kiff and wants same. Effect of all the silly sh!t and attitudes is last night’s performance and a thousand, thousand pissed off highly disappointed fans. Ultimately, none but the fans give a shi!t about the effects though.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
A Tim Brown, a Rich Gannon should talk with Davis and tell him to retire.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Exla,
I saw that…I wish he could have gotten the problem fixed, I think if changes his game more than we can imagine, but 12 weeks is a long time. He better get it fixed first thing next summer.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
You may be right PhillyRaider
But what does that say about Kiffin?
September 9th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Im watching Kiffins presser on Comcast,..he sucks …a real loser,..doesnt care at all about the loss…he needs to be fired now.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Godfather Davis, what is he going to do? sabotage his former players from future jobs in the media or whatever?
September 9th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Kiffin will want another job. He wouldn’t intentionally lose games to get fired. That would lower his attractiveness to other teams. You guys are total nuts – even for Raiders fans. Get real.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Everyone who has season tickets or even idividual game tix please burn them week by week. Until Al either dies, resigns or moves to Brazil he doesn’t deserve to have any fans or support of any kind. Prove to us loyal, longtime Raider fans that serious changes are coming. We deserve a quality GM and quality coaches. We don’t deserve to have an old, senile, stubborn shadow of a once great man running everything. Al has run our beloved organization right into the ground of his own free will. No longer am I gonna stand by and let him make us look like the biggest clowns in pro sports. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. NO MORE. F*CK YOU AL!!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
What is Kiff to do, JT he desperately wants out bro! I’m sure Al promised to give him leeway and power over personnel changes and so on but after the phone kept ringing on the sideline and in the coaches lounge day after day. The dude just wants it to be over.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Kiffin saying the team quit in the second half.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
It is over philly,…he may get canned this week.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
There was play in the 2nd? qtr. Denver, had the ball around mid field. 3rd and 2. Royal, motions to the left, then reverses back to the right.
NO ONE, on D adjusts. NO ONE is covering him AT ALL.
Ball is snapped, all Cutler has to do, is take one step back, throw to a WIDE effing OPEN, Royal. Who proceeds to go for 20 yrds. Before a player on the D is close enough to make a play.
FIRE, ROBBO NOW..
September 9th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I disagree RT. I didn’t say he was trying to throw games. I think he called the O the way he said he would (remember his statements before the Titans preseason game). But I just can’t figure the depth chart game lineup decisions dude! It’s insaRSne. JLH and Curry as the starting WRs??!!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Yep. Fire Kiffin. Bring in somebody else and give him the keys to this 1975 Ford Pinto. Point to the nearest brick wall and tell him to drive straight at it as fast as he can.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Kiff gets canned? Enter the next puppett to get canned, and the next, and the next and the next…..
Al has lost his fuggin mind… and he hates us.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
PhillyRaider
Then he should just quit and be a man! If he really values his coaching expertise, then he should feel secure knowing he will get a better job, right? And just quit.
But coaching to loose is both stupid to the NFL and to himself…
He would loose integrity around NFL circles…
September 9th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Yeah Jim, count it bro he gone! I remember that play 909, it went down so easy I d@mn near fell on the floor with disbelief!!!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Who else was he supposed to start at WR? That GREAT offseason acquisition Javon Walker was MIA. Higgins and Curry were the two guys left who are most familiar with the plays and routes. Lelie and Shilens have not been around long enough.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
JT, I agree.
Madden, Howie Long, Stabler, Shell, Sistrunk, Brown, Blanda, Blitnekoff, Tatum, Otto, Flores, Plunkett, Hayes, Wisenewski, Golic, Kaufman, Bo Jackson, Willie Brown, Lofton, Trask, and all the other Raiders’ greats need an intervention to tell Al to retire. It was just sad to see him alone in his box, drooling and stroking out last night.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
JT, I’m open to any and I mean ANY alternative theory you have bro. I mean sh!t maybe I’m grasping but I have NO answers for the bullsh!t I witnessed last night!!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
MR Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 10:52 am
OMG…still no Oakglenn?
Guys, seriously, is he ok?
Before I clown his ass for being a complete coward,
Here is a guy who hides behind other peoples names, who feigns being a Raider fan so he can labaste a 4-12 teams fans, calling others a coward. the Raiders may have lost 41-14 lost nite MR but you have proven again you are the gutless tool.
I don’t say and do things based on emotion (see Brett Favre) and I have only seen the game live, but of all the losses the Raiders have suffered over the years, last nite was among the worst. To me, that looked like a good Oklahoma Sooners team playing San Francisco City College. Clearly Al Davis has got to take the blame for this. The personnel on this team is not very good. When you have the overall #4 pick and then you spend your 4th rounder on a corner, and do not address any of your real needs, clearly the team is in serious trouble.
Kiffin was so completely over matched and in over his head last nite, it was ridiculous. The only thing that surprised me was that Shanahan didn’t pull out a machete and decapitate Kiffin after the game. Shanahan probably would have if he could have and Lane wouldn’t have seen that coming either. How Kiffin did not know Shanarat was going to try to destroy him was completely beyond me.
Ryan and the defense had no answers. Now what I saw live was what I have been saying for years: I saw a defensive line getting blown off the ball on run plays, and getting absolutely NO PUSH on pass plays. I saw a 2ndary that had not played a game together and boy did it show. Watching those lame Bunco receivers repeatedly get behind the safeties was absolutely ridiculous.
More Later.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
The sooner…
the better.
Just Win Baby.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Listen, I doubt very much Ryan intentionally blew the game, or kiffin for that matter, or even Al Davis based simply on the fact that he poured BIG $$ into the team this off-season and that is not the action of a man who is willing to tank a season just to make a coach resign, however, the players all know that something is not right between the owner, HC and DC, and so they have zero respect for any of them at this point, and it showed in their performance.
I like Kiffin, but I think both Kiffin and Ryan need to go…Ryan right now and Kiffin at the end of the season.
The problem is, we would still have the insane ass clown calling the shots from his golf cart…we are doomed until Al is gone.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
He wasn’t alone Nate, there was a congregation of people in there. Didn’t you see the female of death standing behind him? Or could it be only Dakota and I are tuned into the paranormal and we were the only ones who saw her?
I see dead people.
I see a crappy a$$ owner who is killing my true love, the Raiders.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
the costumes in the stands pale in comparison to the costumes on the sidelines. RRyan was in his usual defensive coordinator costume. We know you are really just Al Davis under there.
Kiff did his best chucky impersonation even pretending to be highly upset when Curry dropped his first pass of the season. We know you really WANT to be fired and collect and get hired by someone else.
Stuart S. really had a nice costume, very believable as Dante Hall. All he had to do was add some of the classic Hall tantrum 15 yarders and he had us all fooled.
M. Bush must have had a great costume on because I couldn’t even spot him.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
RT Post 101,
Schilens has been here since APRIL!!! And for a guy with little knowledge of the offense, he outplayed all other receivers including Curry. And WHY NOT activate Watkins???!!!!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Hey, KoolKell…
If, you should run into Robbo again at the Safeway.
Do us a favor. Kick him square in the nutz.
Oh, wait. Robbo doesn’t have any.
Nevermind..thanks anyway.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
we have no revceivers………..
atleast jlh didnt fumble…
September 9th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Kiff is just frustrated. I doubt he doesn’t care about the loss. The thing is, no coordinator wants this gig if they can’t implement their own system and pick their personnel. Al has to seriously look in the mirror and for a change, ease up on the controls just a lil’ bit. If he relenquishes just some of his threatening grasp on every effin scheme/exec move, we’ll be better as a unit. What I wanna know is what the hell do the rest of the execs do if Al runs the show. Does everyone sit around like puppets similar to Darth Vader and his roundtable when he telepathically choked that one dude in Star Wars?
September 9th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I saw the lady of death too… and I find it funny that she was standing ove Al’s shoulder…. oh the irony. lol
September 9th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
He wasn’t alone Nate, there was a congregation of people in there. Didn’t you see the female of death standing behind him? Or could it be only Dakota and I are tuned into the paranormal and we were the only ones who saw her?
I see dead people.
I see a crappy a$$ owner who is killing my true love, the Raiders
September 9th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
The best starting offense for next weekend would be:
WRs: Lelie & Schilens
TE: Miller
FB: Griffith
RB: Fargas
QB: Russell
RT: Marten
RG: Carlisle
C: Wade
LG: Gallery
LT: McQuistan (or Harris, if McQ is unfit)
Schilens showed well in the few opportunities he had. Lelie was a good surprise. Harris and Green are liabilities and Grove disappointed (again). McQuistan and Martens both have huge wingspan and a rough edge.
On Defense:
CBs: Hall & Asomugha
FS: Branch
SS: Wilson
LBs: Howard, Williams (MLB), Morrison
DEs: Burgess & Richardson
DTs: Kelly & Sands
Huff wiffed. Morrison is not an MLB. But our defensive depth is very, very poor.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Lady of Death over Al’s Shoulder – Funny SH!T, ROFLMAO!!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
WTF I am not MR, I have been posting all day. Don’t come in here Oakglenn acting like you are up on whats going on in here. Go back a few hours and read some posts. Jerk off running your mouth.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I see a crappy a$$ owner who is killing my true love, the Raiders.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Fuq it Al, step back and put this guy in charge of EVERYTHING! What could it hurt? He is looking for another opportuninty in the NFL, and he is a USC guy, so you could save some face:
http://www.trojanwire.com/Pete-raiders.gif
September 9th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
It follows a dialogue and a monologue regarding a very strange looking female standing behind Al during the game. STFU with your Fart Melvin sh!t you a hole. Im not MR.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
I don’t care if lombardi came from the dead to coach this team…as long as that old a@# man is still running this franchise, we loyal raider fans will suffer. I will continue to watch and root for the team, but I will no longer buy anything with a raider logo on it until this old creep is gone.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Oakglenn is the worst troll on this site…haven’t you guys figured this out yet?
Watch…my name will soon be hijacked for pointing out the obvious…
September 9th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
No Jokes, Post 118 is how I feel today! (sniff, sniff)
September 9th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Dakota Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Oakglenn is the worst troll on this site…haven’t you guys figured this out yet?
Watch…my name will soon be hijacked for pointing out the obvious…
——————————————————-
Exactly the point I made earlier. MR might not be the most popular person in here, but he isn’t the only one doing the hijacking. Everything is cool, then all of a sudden Oakglenn comes in and all hell breaks loose. Oakglenn is a tool.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Hey Dakota, Ol Wrinkled should have saved all of the offseason money and combined it all to hire that guy!! The patch would have sealed the deal!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
PhillyRaider
My alternative is someone of the old raiders to talk to Al Davis, to have a sit down with him, and tell him like it is.
That is the only way, clearly, for Al Davis to go away.
We have been talking about this for a few years now. His last glory was hiring Gruden.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Dakota,
Here’s the conversation:
Pete Carroll: So I’m in charge of everything including staff and players including the draft and all matters.
AD: Pete, you have my word on it.
lol
September 9th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
JT:
The only problem with that is the “old Raiders” are COMPLETELY loyal to the “OLD Al”. What exactly would they say to him to make him relinquish control of HIS team? And, why would he?
September 9th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
i would rather see route starting that hall
September 9th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
The only problem is that longevity runs in Al Dsvis family…. I think his mother is still alive…? dont remember…
So we may be stuck with him for another 10 years…
September 9th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Wasn’t there some rumor about Al calling Gene Upshaw after 2006 and hinting at Upshaw taking over as GM of the Raiders?
Maybe last night will be the game that finally puts Al over the edge towards hiring an actual GM…then again, it would probably be some ex-Raider tool like Matt Millen instead of some sharp assistant GM that works with someone like Bill Polian.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
JT, that sounds very logical but unfortuately the guy is years past normal senility. I bet Madden has tried to talk to him let alone players. Oh yeah, AND he’s a megolomaniac. A SENILE MEGOLOMANIAC!!! Is there anything worse.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Dakota, Put Lane in charge of everything….
Are you kidding?
September 9th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Einstein
If I worked at a place and then retired, and was fond of my boss, and if my boss had a problem now, like drinking or senile, etc, I would feel the need to try to help him for the beter of his company and himself, out of gratitude…
If old raider players feel grateful toward Al, they surely know that he is ruining the team and would try to interfere…
Dont know… just a ramble on tuesday after a very frustrating start to the season.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Glad you guys took meAngelo Hall off our hands. Now the Falcons can win some football games and not worry about meAngelo Hall giving games away with stupid penalties.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Lelie, the only player who hasn’t been Raiderized by Kiffin had a decent game…
Give the coaches a week to rub off on him, he’ll lose his confidence like the rest of them….
Garbage in, garbage out!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
It hurts!! That’s about all I can think of to say right now. We are in for a long season.
I am still going to three games this year but will not as excited about it as I was last week.
Its a sad day for all of us to come to this realization that we are bottom dwellers again.
Everyone is to blame for last night, the owner Amy Trask, all the coaches the players and the equipment guy and yes us fans for buying into the hype again.
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Yes, a senile incontinent megolomaniac…the towel was to hide the pee stains.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Our Offense was more pathetic than our Defense, and our Defense was confused about what they thoguth they were going to see…..
PlayAction killed us the most!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Coach Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Dakota, Put Lane in charge of everything….
Are you kidding?
______________________________________________
When did I say that?
September 9th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
PhillyRaider
I think it was said on this blog that Amy Trask would be in charge once Al goes…
September 9th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Should have kicked the ball on 4th adn inches early in the game…
Young team, would have put point on the board…onto the next play!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
post 119
September 9th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
I agree Coach. Points on the board.
Bad move by Kiffin.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
I see, you were referring to Carroll..
Well, I half still disagree…
But based on yesterday, I almost would agree with you!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Sorry Dakota!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
I think there’s something to Al. Something strange and different. I know, it’s no secret, but seeing him last night up there by himself, with lady death standing over him, just gave me an very weird feeling. Maybe that’s the weird feeling to the game some of you talk about…I don’t know. But it really left an impression on me. I have seen him before, on his walker, cruising around in his golf cart, but last night just had a weird, different feeling to it. We were getting beat, really bad, but he didn’t seem upset. He just seemed like there was nothing wrong…. I don’t know. Weird…
September 9th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
I wish I had one of those big breasted girlfriends so I could hide my face in he cleavage the entire week.
This sand is hurting my eyes!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Coach…that link was to Pete Carroll…not Lane Kiffin.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
JT: not dissing you or your comments bro, I was just merely responding to your comment.
Not sure exactly what they would say to him to convince him otherwise.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Al is God.
Kiffin is a FRAUD.
If you’re a Kiffin lover you should consider yourself a DISGRACE to Raider Nation.
I only hope you b!tcthes hit the bricks when your boyfriend gets canned.
You make us ALL look bad.
Just Wn Baby.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
I just watched the Lane kiffin q&a with the media and our very own insider Jmac.
Kiffin is a good coach. He is young, and he makes mistakes, but Al Davis should have expected that when he hired a 31 year old kid OC from USC.
He did not take shots at the defense and he refrained from singling out anyone as being the main problem.
Everyone knows He wanted Rob Ryan gone, Al overuled him: I was in favor of Ryan coming back myself, but after I spent last night in total shock at the coliseum, I feel like Lane was right, and I hope Al lets this kid finish his contract out because Al has really made the job that much harder for this guy with keeping a defensive coordinator that the whole world knows the head coach did not want.
Lane made some good points about Jamarcus’ fumble which was a game changer as far as momentum. If Jamarcus connects on the screen, Darren McFadden walks into the end zone, and the rebirth of the offense attack in Oakland has arrived; however, that did not happen.
Jamarcus played like a rookie. He fumbled twice (one being a turn over). He took a sack in the first half for a nine yard loss that killed a drive before it started: he should have and had plenty of time to get rid off the ball. That being said I beilieve Jamarcus knows that well because he was getting the ball out the rest of the night and only had two sacks despite that god awful o line.
I am officially off the Ronald Curry band wagon: this dude really killed the energy with his drop. He drops too many passes. My wife doesn’t even know who he is by name, and she screamed finally he catches the ball when he got the TD in the 4th.
Dangelo Hall got roasted. He was the worst off season move by far. I was skeptical when it happened, but now I am convinced that the Raiders overpaid for him, and only slightly upgraded over Fabian Washington.
D hall should play tight man 2 man coverage in the slot on passing situations, and routt should handle the outside.
Rob Ryan sucks. He needs to blitz. I don’t care if Al is telling him not( which I doubt); he has to get pressure on the qb.
Kiffin took one shot that was at Ryan: we had 10 third and long passing downs, and we did not presseure( blitz) once.
I feel bad for Kiffin he has to bite his tongue and find a way to ignore the pink elephant in the room which is that everyone knows he has no control over the defensive game plan.
One more thing for better or worse on Kiffin: he established he runs the team until further notice at least on who plays.
He sat out Kalimba Edwards and Javon Walker because they did not practice. A fan next to me asked Javon why he aint playing and Javon shrugged and said he doesn’t know: well I know, kiffin sent a message to this guy that you just don’t turn the lights on and go play. Now you fire kiffin people might say that is a mistake, and he very well may get fired, but he is estbalshing one thing, he is consitent in what he controls. He just manned up and let his team know that you have to practice to play. This has been a side story between Kiffin and Javon since camp started. Javon needs to buy into that if he wants to play, and I feel he will.
If he doesn’t I am fine with watching Chaz Schillens, and Ashley Lelie. JLH might even be able to make some things happen. I don’t think Kiffin should back down because he will loose the repsect of the guys that are doing it the right way: Namdi, Derrick Burgess, Darren McFadden, Jamarcus Russell, and Justin Fargas.
If Kiffin backs down walker and D Hall will start doing their own thing, and other players on the fence like tommy Kelly, gerard warren… will follow suit.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
no schit coach.
how many times have we played denver???
they always run the playaction and we acted like we’ve never seen it before.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
And what was that going for it on our own 20 yard line…I don’t even see kids do that playing Madden!
And then to run the ball….LOL
I supposed we should blame that on Ryan too…
Kiffin has to go!
September 9th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Al is about to kick the bucket he doesn’t look good. I hope the heirs to the Raider Nation are prepared to take over.
Could be a sad year for us if we lose Al and Gene in the same year.
September 9th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Is this the kind of turmoil people go through when they have a parent that has lost touch with reality? You know, when Mom loses her mind at 75, spends her retirement on QVC, then runs off with the retired Catholic priest?
September 9th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Dick V, get outta here with that shyt….we were embarassed worse than in team in the NFL, thats a fact.
Too be optimistic now is ignorant…
Its only going to get worse…
I only hope other coaches aren’t as effective with an entire off-season to pre-pare for this Vanilla Kiffin Offense…
Long year fellas
And to think what the rest of our opponents have to be thinking after watching that mess….they can’t wait to play the Raiders now!
September 9th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Licking their chops
1st impressions are everything!
September 9th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
My son sick
September 9th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
And you all know I’m right!
September 9th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
dakota Al needs a GM. He is the owner and he has too much heart to manage effectively. He has created a mess. He needs to go to his resources ( ron wolf, Gil Brandt, Bill Parcells…etc and get a gm to take over. Or his son need to step up. I don’t care as long as it is someone with some common sense.
common sense tells you that Kiffin should have been either fired or Ryan should have been fired to find a coaching staff that is on the same page.
ryan is barrier between the defensive players and Kiffin. Kiffin needs to have everyone in line to be a successful coach.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
JT #141 – From everything I’ve read she’s a sharp cookie!
Dakota #138 – You are the funniest bro!!!:)
September 9th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Its Kiffin’s job to assume the leadership role….that is his job..
It isn’t someone else’s job to step back so kiffin can be heard…
You’re an NFL Head Coach…act like it….
Stand up for your team when they f’ck up!
He is a sheep…
September 9th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Dick V…get outta here…you’re pissing me off….
If you work for the Raiders it would explain alot!
September 9th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
new post
September 9th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Just had a thought….what if Kiffin is throwing games to get fired and Rob Ryan is calling off his defense to get Kiffin fired. Remember the defense was pissed at Kiffin last year due to his constant criticism of them and his lack of scoring with the offense, couple that with the fact that he tried to get rid of their unquestioned leader and you have the makings of a full on mutiny. I think RR wants to be the head coach and i think he beleives Al would give him the job.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Why is everyone so scared of Al Davis?
Why can’t any of these weak minded coaches get along with the man….
He is the godfather of the sport!
PERIOD!
September 9th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Whats up Nation,
Did you guys see Nnamdi pleading to RRyan to stop calling the vanilla defense. They showed it during the game. Or maybe he was complaning about DHall. There is something fishy going on with our team.
Our defense needs to wake up. Lesson Learn!!!!
I’m Still In!!!!
September 9th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
fake coach,
Get out of where. I am stating my opinion. rob Ryan and his defense lost that game. The offense would have not been able to compete with Denver any way you slice it with that poor performance by the defense.
Ryan needs to pressure. There was too many blown assignments and miss tackles again without Stuart Schweigert. The same problems are persisting and getting worse on that side of the ball.
This is a QB driven league. Al brought Kiffin in to develop a qb. Jamarcus has two td’s no int’s and 111 passer rating. Kiffin is doing his job: developing the QB. If Jamarcus develops over the next two years, the Raiders will be able to compete despite or inspite of that god awful play on the defensive side of the ball.
I have been on Ryan’s side, but last night was ridicoulous. you can’t let jay cutler have all night to pick you apart. You can’t let him get seven step drops, bootlegs, and play action passes to find mismatches.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Dick V – That was an excellent post my man!! Jerry might be gettin worried! On point!
September 9th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Fake coach the Once, JR is developed, I could care less what happens to to Kiffin. Jamarcus is the answer. He needs a stable enviroment around him to develop: Kiffin, knapp, and Paul Hackett or giving that too him. Once he is developed he can be every bit as good as Donovan McNabb, but maybe more like Carson Palmer: a good QB on a dysfunctional team. The organization is dysfunctional: Kiffin is apart of the solution and Russell is the answer.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
PhillyRaider
Hopefully Trask is smart enough to hire other people to run personnel.
Then we would have a normal looking NFL team.
Coach
Kiffin likes to go for it on 4th down to get momentum, but at the 20 yard line was pathethic.
I even tought Shanahan would just sit on the ball, but he loves to rub it on the raiders.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Kiffin made a bad call to go for it 4th down, but the score was 34-7 and the game was already a nightmare. I was happy he went for it.
I rather him let them hang than to do a move like mike nolan and try minimize the damage which has already been done: an example is nolan choice to go for FG instead of getting shut out a few times. kiffin wants the offense to scores touchdowns, and knows a fg in a meaningless game does absolutely nothing for the team. On that same fram of mind, a first down in that situation builds confidence for a young developing offense. It was a bad move, but i can’t blame him for taking shots the game was over either way. The defense was getting killed and they were supposed to be the strength.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
if Kiffin takes the Mike Nolan approach to football, the raiders loose that game 34-6 because both 4th qaurter touchdowns came on 4th down.
Kiffin took the “my bread and butter is Jamarcus approach” and opted to build this kids confidence: mission accomplished in that regard, JR made more plays than not, and he finished with a 111 passer rating, 65% completion percentage, and about 7 yards per pass attempt(respectable) two td’s, and no ints.
Kiffin will take those stats and continue to build with this kid. Jamarcus will be down about the loss, but he will take some confidence from this game.
all you trolls on here can call me overally optimistic, but when you have season tickets and are committed to coming to these games week in and week out: what other choice do you really have?
September 9th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Hey All,
I live in Melbourne, Australia and love my Raiders even though I gain most of my info of the internet and ESPN. The game was on ESPN last night down here and if someone can fill me on how a Defence with so much talent, got shredded by a Rookie WR and why Jay Cutler had so much time to throw the ball?
It doesn’t make sense???? Is it the scheme that Ryan has set up or as the commentators mentioned a fault with the player personnel area?
September 9th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Raider11680 Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Namdi said the Donks called some plays they had not seen before….ok. But every team does this every week.
Ummmmmmm……you said donks…..maybe if you learn some respect for the “BRONCOS” I’ll ask Jay to take it easy on Hall.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
We cannot lose to the chefs, I have tickets for gods sake!!!!!!
Ummmmmm……you said chefs…..now the “CHIEFS” are going to lay the smackdown on you too. It’s all about karma and if you can’t walk the walk don’t talk the talk.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
My favorite part of last nights game is when the camera panned up to the press box and showed that old, ugly decrepid old man in the wheel chair. He had drool rag on his lap (I’m assuming to catch the puss that drains from his face sores)and his hands looked like duck feet. He couldn’t even move just one finger at a time. It was like some of his fingers were stuck together (probably from punetas). And this guy is calling the shots for your orginization? Man! When the put the camera on him my first thought that this old coot looked like the spirit of x-mas past, present and future all rolled into one. Then I realized that the old grease ball IS your past, present and future. Dam, the future looks pretty bad out there in the Bay area!
September 9th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Listen all you Raider fans if any of you are really fans it was 1 game and yes it was a really bad one but come on we play the Chiefs this week and they have no QB at all we will win that game 24-10.
Now what Kiffin needs to do is be more creative with his play calling don’t call running plays 8 times in a row and if Ryan can’t develop a blitz package then he does need to go I doubt that is the case he is very capable of attacking the QB what worried me is that D.Hall who is supposed to be a shut down corner was being burned by a rookie who looked like Jerry Rice now he is a pro bowl CB so I will give him another chance so yes there are some problems to fix but lets give the Raiders another game or 2 before we pass judgement.
September 9th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
I’m a bit late to the party, but I’m coming back at #51 Raider11680…
What is one thing that has been a constant throughout the losing streak? Rob Ryan D coord. He has been here since goddamn ‘04. I am tired of hearing that we have to give him a chance, because he has had 4 years to get it right and he hasn’t got it right yet. It is personnel, execution, coaching, scheme. All of it lies with the coords to motivate their squads with a plan that works. Ya’ feel me? I mean, nowadays, the head coach just sets the agenda for the practices and sets the gameplan, and works with the off. coord to call the plays on gameday. Stuff like that. The coordinators execute their respective segments of the team. Greg Knapp has his work cut out for him too, don’t get me wrong, that is evident. And we have seen improvement believe it or not.
But for 4 years running, Rob Ryan fails. Straight up.
September 9th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Raiders Fans are the only idiots who consistently blame our deficiencies on the Effin owner. What the hell does Al Davis got to do with Rob Ryan’s horrible coaching of a talented bunch? When was the last time A.D. out on a helmet and cleats. You guys are infidels! I mean, Our D-line in shaky, but everywhere else on D better than average. The reason sorry ass Royal was open so much is because sorry ass Cutler was getting 35 secs. to throw it on every play! If you or I run around for 35 seconds, we’ll get open at some point, even if Deion Sanders was covering us. We havent blitzed in 27 years, and QB pressure is our major malfunction, everyone knows that. And Ron Curry is a bum, I used to love him, now I hope we cut him.
September 9th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
And Im tired of you idiots who dont know crap about football talking about D.Hall getting burned. He was in R.R.’s lame ass zone ALL FRIGGIN NIGHT. These guys are man corners, why the hell was J.Wilson covering Royal anyway? Because we were in that stupid ass zone on that play. I hate Rob Ryan.
September 9th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
You guys are defending Lame Sniffin over Al Davis? You guys are tools, and infidels. The league is purposely causing dissension between the Nation in order to push out Al Davis and make our uniforms pinks and orange and make Tom Brady(tuck rule) our Q.B. Long live Al Davis, and screw the NFL and their cheatin ass refs.
September 9th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Ryan is a pathetic excuse for a defensive coordinator. If Senile Al is even considering him as a head coach, then he doesn’t give a damn about winning football games. Ryan’s always full of excuses for his failure to put an acceptable product on the field. He needs to be held accountable and let go just like in the real world. Al is only concerned with his ego now. He doesn’t give a damn about the fans. I’ve been a diehard Raider fan for over 40 years and I am fed up with these childish feuds of his. He is destroying this once proud organization and needs to step aside if he wants another ring before he kicks the bucket.
September 10th, 2008 at 10:02 am
no more support for Al Davis till he puts at least a competent product on the field.. I Dont feel like a Raider anymore because of the poor players Al,s trying to pass off as an NFL team.. Bottomline … Al Davis is responcible
September 10th, 2008 at 10:50 am
so paul mcquistan is done for the year, harris knee is hurt, we cut seth wand, signed jeff marten off waivers, super mario sucks and is gonna get russell killed…walker should have retired, curry drops all the important passes. schillens is raw but talented, lelie might be our best receiver, so why haven’t we signed koren robinson? and why can’t anybody answer the question we all want to know…where the hell was michael bush monday night, could it be he’s about to be traded? god i hope not!
September 10th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
The only way to turn this team around is for Davis to step down !! He owes it to the fans……………
And so it is……………
September 10th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
I finally got the call!!! Al Davis just called me and said he found out I was the most penalized player on my pop-warner team when I was 8 and wanted to know if I still had any gas in the tank… I told him 11 million guaranteed and I will be there!
January 20th, 2009 at 8:11 am
“Another day at the Fadier Comedy Central Network”
Al Bundy Davis is WTF with the Faiders.
The Cable Guy is off his contract, yet he wants to be the coach, and doing the main interviews with potential Head Coaches ?? WTF is wrong with this picture………But what, this is The Faiders ! Higher other coaches before you hire the Head Coach, and you wonder why Al Bundy can’t put a winning team on the field………..
Just Sell or Die Baby………….and so it is !
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