It’s Showtime for Sapp
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, September 10th, 2008 at 3:23 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Warren Sapp has taken his act to Showtime, the new residence for “Inside the NFL.”
That can’t be good news for the Raiders, as Sapp was unsparing in some of his criticism during a conference call to promote the show.
“As far as where the Raiders are going, they have unrealistic ideas about what their people can do,” Sapp said “That was the experience I had in the four years I was there. They asked people to do stuff they were physically impossible of doing. They asked a guy who hadn’t coached for 12 years (Tom Walsh) to coach. They’re going to suck.”
Sapp’s assessment of cornerback DeAngelo Hall, burned repeatedly in the 41-14 loss to Denver?
“DeAngelo Hall has been getting burnt since he was in Atlanta, so this isn’t nothing new,” Sapp said. “DeAngelo Hall is the flashiest burnt-up corner ever in the history of the game. I mean, he gets burnt more than anybody else, and he all of the sudden is this great Pro Bowl cover corner. I never saw that in DeAngelo Hall. He would gamble and do everything unsound on the corner.”
How about Tommy Kelly, whose skills Sapp praised during his time with the Raiders?
“He never played (tackle), he was at end. Then he had a knee injury, and I never had the chance to teach him the intricate parts of the three-technique,” Sapp said. “(He is) a 6-6, 330-pound country kid from Mississippi who is strong as all outdoors. Can he play the position? Yes. But there are certain things about (defensive tackle) … If you (stand) too high, he’s going to get knocked around, and at 6-6, low man wins in the trenches, and once you get knocked around, you get a little apprehensive.”
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September 10th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
one
September 10th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
foist
September 10th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Sappsucks…. #1
September 10th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Sapp never shuts his fat mouth
September 10th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
man I’ve always wanted to be first!
September 10th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Sapp is just a fat@ss who’s mad because there were rumors that we were going to trade him before he retired.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Inside the NFL is on Showtime now? F’k, I’m canceling HBO. That and the Sopranos was the only reason I kept it for so long, anyway.
Anyhow, here’s a little repost action from another thread….
# MR Says:
September 10th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Brien, maybe you didn’t see because you were sitting in the back of a coliseum security squad car, but Lane did give Russell the call, a few times, and Russell either wound up getting buried into the mud or throwing the ball backward, making it live. What’s Lane supposed to do, keep calling passing plays so he can get Russell killed? The few times Russ did get the ball off our receivers dropped the ball anyway. Denver closed in on Miller, as I told everyone they would. ‘member that, kook aid drinkers? I said that all teams had to do was stop Miller and our running game, and it’s a wrap. Your guys’ response: Teams won’t be able to stop Miller and our running game. Ha!
September 10th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
mr watch entourage!
September 10th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Fool Says:
September 10th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Dakota
see what I mean. You are so quick to tell people how wrong they are, but you are never wrong?
It’s more than just a tad bit egomaniacal, I’m just saying.
_____________________________________________
Dude, I can’t help that I am never wrong…it is not my fault…I have a high IQ.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
And listen to you guys whine about Sapp. Sapp says good things about the Raiders, he’s a true warrior. He tells the truth, on the other hand, and he’s a loud mouth. Babies. Don’t like it, don’t watch. Tid bit: SAPP DIDN’T BUILD THIS TEAM. AL DAVIS DID. That’s who you idiots should be mad at.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Thanks Jedi
The way I see it is Kiff has made some huge strides with the O. We need some fresh bodies but that will come with time. It does not happen overnight.
Kiff is filling this team with young, hard playing, yes sir, no maam types, who will play hard for him. That was proven mon night when “his” young players showed heart.
After you fill the team with this type then you can sign a vet free agent or two on both sides of the line to light a fire in the team. It may be two years away.
Al makes mistakes but all GMs do that. Blaming him isnt gonna get anyone anywhere at this point This coaching staff should be able to get this team to play 500 ball. What I saw Monday night cant all be laid at Ald feet. Hopefully Al will hire a GM but that probaly has 50/50 odds of working out. GM’s fail. a lot. Thats why theres only a few that are worth a dam, Ask Jones and Snyder. All that money and it hasnt landed them in the SB lately.
I think we ran into a buzzsaw that will probaly be a hall of famer. The wise guys said he was the best QB in the draft, ahead of VY & Matt. He looks like he will prove it this year.
This team will rise to the occasion and play close to 500 ball providing they do something about the D. That may mean a new coach.
I am 100% behind the Raiders, thick or thin, good or bad, sick or injured and I long ago learned it doesnt do much good to whine and lay blame.
It is what is, we are what we are.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
YOu can bag on Sapp all you want be he speaks the truth
September 10th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
SAPP Says:
“That was the experience I had in the four years I was there. They asked people to do stuff they were physically impossible of doing”.
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Oh you mean like fugging stopping a running back from kicking your a$$? Yeah you are right Sapp, you were physically unable to do that. Damn us for asking you to attempt to stop a running back.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Re-Repost:
Great read: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/09/SP8L12QPVC.DTL
September 10th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Time to grow some thick skin Nation, Ditka won’t be the last person to publicly criticize, humiliate, laugh-at, or call-out the Raiders this year. Sadly, this team deserves every ounce of that negativity for the way they carried themselves on Monday night.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
http://profootball.scout.com/2/788706.html
September 10th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Einstein…to his credit, Sapp couldn’t get the job done and quit….I wish Al would do the same.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
LARAIDERS, forgot about Entourage. I might keep it just for that. Although I don’t know if one show is worth the 20 bucks a month. The Sopranos made it well worth it. Possibly the best t.v. drama ever. Inside the NFL was great, too. I don’t have Showtime and I’m not going to order it just for that, so I’ll miss it. That show was an HBO cornerstone. I don’t know how they allowed it to get away. Bill Maher’s kind of boring anymore, even though I share most of his politics. “New Rules” is the only part of the show worth watching. Everything else is just a rehash of cable news interviews, but with swearing.
Entourage is cool, though. Arie and Drama are a riot.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I hope that Large Hadron Collider opens up a black hole that swallows Earth…it would be a fitting end to the misery caused us by Al Davis.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Sapp was an over the hill tackle that couln’t stop a run if it laid down in front of him. There was a reason Gruden let him leave and it wasn’t because he was in his prime. STFU Sapp!
September 10th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Damn right, Sapp is gonna be in the hall of fame someday, you can cover your ears all you want, but Warren Sapp probably knows more about defensive scheme than Rob Ryan. When Sapp says they asked people to do the impossible, he is referring to one thing: the ridiculous notion that the secondary play man-to-man, while only rushing four on almost every play.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
At least Lechler went off
September 10th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
I watched a bit of “Sons Of Anarchy” on FX last night, that is a bad a$$ show.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Sapp is being Sapp…Brutally honest!
I hope people are listening.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
I love the sopranos, I just didnt like how tony did chrissy at thee end
September 10th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Dude, Sapp is NOT a hall of famer…
September 10th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Nancy Gay went off….she reads this blog I guess. She beat Jerry to the punch
September 10th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Anyone who thinks Al will ever step down is a MORON.
I nominate MR to be the president of “Nation Collective.”
Just Win Baby.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Sapp said something after Super Bowl 37 about how we let them off the hook by not using Garner. Garner was the only player they were worried about. Yet, we forced the ball to Rice. Played right into their hands. Sapp’s one of those guys that if you listen to him, you just might get better. The truth hurts.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
lol…..sapp………what a sap!
September 10th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I actually hope Al fires Kiffin…then he can get himself in a situation where he can develop as a coach and win…..
September 10th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Entourage is still pretty good, although season one was far and away the best of the series thus far.
Sopranos was the best.
Six Feet Under was not bad.
That surfer show, John from Kansas or somewhere, lol, kind of grew on me, and then got canned.
Big Love is good.
Rome was great.
Deadwood was great.
Curb Your Enthusiasm is okay.
HBO makes the best shows on TV.
Cinemax came out with a new show called Inside a Dallas Cowboy’s Cheerleader, but it was on way to late for me to watch.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Sapp runs his mouth like Barkley, those two are idiots… Listen to them? WTF is your problem..
September 10th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Sapp has no reason to lie, he made a ton of money here, more than any other team would pay, and was liked by teammates and most fans. I take him for his word. No great revelation that Hall blows
September 10th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
I watched True Blood last night…not very good.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Fire Kiffin,
No one said he would step down….but he will be gotten rid of….
September 10th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
LA Raider, Chrissy was lucky he made it that long. He should have been killed the minute he went to Tony about Adrianna. The only reason Adrianna knew what she did know is because of Chrissy’s fat mouth, and him being high half the time.
In the episode where he kills Chrissy, he sees that Chrissy is high while their driving. After the crash, he can see the tree branch going right through the back window and into the baby seat. Had the baby been in there, it would have been gone. Tony realized at that point Chrissy was way too much of a liability. Him wheezing and gargling on his blood was a trip. What an eerie scene, man. Great show.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I wish that Rob Ryan would disappear and that Al would step down. Unfortunatley neither of those things are going to happen and the coaching wheel will keep spinning with the exception of Rob Ryan.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Sapp is a jack a$$, please for the love of all things holy and sacred lets NOT get into a pissing match of Warren fugging Sapp OK. WHO FUGGIN CARES ABOUT HIM OR WTF HE SAYS. STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP.
JERRY YOU ARE AN A HOLE FOR CREATING THIS THREAD.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Sup Einstein…..Where is the draft you troll?
September 10th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Dam Einstein
I had some respect for you untill you said that.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Andrews Mom,
You’re a fukin idiot excuse swallower too.
WTF, Warren Sapp is not the fukin issue, you moron swallowers.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Until I said what Andrews Mom?
Not a Troll Chaos.. I wrote a 12 page draft, but as I continue to proofread it, I came to reality that it doesn’t really matter, it’s not going to happen.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
From Scout.com:
The Chiefs and Raiders lost during Week 1, but they’re young teams with bright futures. Dorsey and McFadden have the ability and the expectations of leading their franchises for many years, and the rivalry they endured in college will only intensify in ….
September 10th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Lol KK, in rare form today I see bro…
September 10th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Dakota, I agree. True Blood just didn’t work. Alan Ball did a great job with Six Feet Under and he’s trying to get the same spirit out of this, but it just seems too contrived. It was more like a soft core porn than a vampire drama. Always have cinemax for that. No need to sit through a bunch of dialog about vampires.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
The show “Lost” is cool, I dig that show.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
I should have said I was talking about the sons of stupidity. The Sapp stuff may confuse people.
I agree that Sapp is a loud mouth who will say whatever makes him look good. I did not watch him this weekend.
But I watched Strahan and he was very good for a rookie.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
But, I may keep watching True Blood just to see a few more of those chicks get naked…
September 10th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Dont sel out Einstein……Don’t Randy Moss on me bro…..
September 10th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Again, if you are unhappy with the way the Raiders are being managed, than step up and take action. This will only work if we all join together. There’s strength in numbers, and the Nation has many members.
I know we are all tired of what’s been going on with this franchise. And since there’s only one person in charge of it, he should be held accountable. And again, this takes nothing away from who he is, what he has done for the sport, and from the respect he deserves. But I think it’s safe to say that we all know he is responsible.
It’s not placing blame, or whining, it’s saying we have had enough, and we are taking action into our own hands.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Lol Andrews Mom, well I did say I only watched a “bit” of it, for like 15 minutes, and it is the ony time I have seen it. Thought it was cool?
Is it not?
September 10th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
your personal feelings about Warren Sapp aside, what he is saying about the defense holds a lot of water. Can you really say in all honesty that you think this defense performs well, and uses it’s on-field talents in the best way possible.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Dakota & Einstein
Don’t forget about The Shield! Best cop show on TV.
KK
Welcome back to the states. Now head on down to Alameda, take a peak through the fence and tell us if the defense is actually putting any work in.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Not selling out bro, just don’t think there is even a hill to climb with this one. Like I said earlier it’s like trying to defeat the “eye” our Sauron but they have the Ring. Or trying to beat Darth Vader in a choking finger thingy match…
I still think it’s a great idea though..
September 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Dogg,
I don’t watch The Shield because one of my ex-girlfriend’s sister and brother-in-law are both occassionaly on it, lol.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Dogg:
I have three kids, I rarely get the T.V. as it is, unless the Raiders are playing on Sunday Ticket, or Lost is on, then I am like a Pit Bull with rabies, stand back…
September 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Thats ok KK I have never had any respect for you.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
does anyone feel like explaining to me the relevance of this “NATION Collective”? Just curious.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
You’ll get your wish, Dakota. I give the story and acting in True Blood two thumbs down. But the sex scenes two thumbs up.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
occasionally….damn
September 10th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Lost is a good show, too bad this is the last season. On a good note though, hopefully we can finally find out what he hell is going on in that show… Good name for it.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Thats cool……we will continue to grow and maybe you will see the light at the end of the tunnel…..It seems like a long road guys, but our purpose is valid and our personalities as Raider Fans will not allow us to give up…..As I have said b4, I am tired of the smack talk from people about our team and not being able to backl it up because of our team. I will not give up on my team ever, but I will not allow Al to ruin my life anymore!!!!!!
September 10th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
I’m gonna go watch that mess of a game now.
My comments to follow.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
The NATION Collective is like Frodo Baggins, Sam, Mari, and Pippin in the Shire, they will is good, but they great eye and Sauron have the ring, and we know they can’t be beat when they have the ring.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Einstein
The Shield was on last night right after Sons of Anarchy. I dvr’ed them both and will watch them this evening. If you have never watched the Shield, I highly recommend starting with the Season 1 DVD set. The story is deep. The show was originally going to be called “Rampart” based on the imfamous and corrupt Rampart Division in the LAPD, but they were forced to change the name.
Also because it is on FX it is basically rated R, so there is some graphic violence involved among other things.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Dogg:
Goals of the NATION collective
1. Setup True NFL structure within the Raider Organization this would me a clean sweep of everyone including trask.
2. Hire all new blood, new meaning new to the NATION collective. Key hires GM, Player Personnel/scouting dept, and Hr dept.
3. Improve the Image of the NATION.
4. Become relevant by putting a winning product on the field.
5. Increase the value of the NATION. This franchise should be one of the top 3 NFL franchises in terms of value yet the NATION is worldwide we need to capitalize on that. We are 28th….
6. Improve profitability of the franchise.
7. Win SB in 5 yrs max.
8. Build the Dynasty, and return the NATION to it glory.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Dakota
do they have recurring roles on the show and if so what characters, if you know? I’m pretty sure I know who your ex is, and if I’m right she is the sh*tiest actress on the show, by far.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Eintein, it was horrible. I made it about 30 minutes.
Hard core biker whore mom who “kills” her sons baby mama because she has the audacity to get hooked on drugs.
I would go on, but maybe reviews paint a better picture
September 10th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
The site
buytheraiders.com
is currently under construction. We want Davis out………..but we want to backfill this with the Raider Nation as owners of shares in the team so that the team can never get back to this point.
Kind of like the GB Packers do.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Lame Kiffin will never get another NFL job.
He’s lucky that senile old fool was turned down by everybody else.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Hey – I just had a nasty nightmare of the Donkeys demolishing our team 41-14……It was a nightmare right? …..Someone please tell me it wasn’t true….please!….SH1T!!!! It was real.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Einstein,
Thats my Name…
September 10th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Raiders cornerback DeAngelo Hall, was off to the side with no helmet in sight, at the start of practice Wednesday.
No word if he’s injured, but one colleague suggested he could have second degree burns from Monday nights game. — David White. S.F. Gate, Silver and Black blog.
LOL, who is the funny one. Jerry or J.J.??
September 10th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
The Shield sucks. It’s a sheltered, suburbanite’s fantasy of what being a cop in LA is like. I suggest reading the book, “Lessons From a Gang Cop”, by Tony Moreno. He’s the real life officer who Robert Duvall’s character in the movie Colors, “Hodges”, is based upon. Much more balanced, unbiased look at both gangs and the LAPD.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Dogg,
She is my ex’s sister, and she played Paula on a few episodes…her fiancé, or husband (it has been 7 years since I met them) is the guy that plays Gardocki.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
You can’t go wrong with a little Two and a Half Men and The Big Bang Theory on CBS…
Remember everyone:
Man v Wild tonight at 7 pm Pacific…Discovery Channel…he tries to survive SOUTH DAKOTA! LMFAO!
September 10th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Nation Collective -Chaos
I’m all for it. I also think that the Raiders need to somehow spruce up (clean up) the surrounding area of the Coliseum with new businesses and hotels, a Multimedia Entertainment Complex, and even a on site Raiders Hall of Fame celebrating the rich history and tradition of the Raiders.
My point is, as good as it all sounds, it just seems overly optimistic to expect change in this manner. I think we are all just going to have to wait.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Dexter and Weeds makes Showtime worth it (although Weeds has gone downhill since S1 but I still watch)
Dexter is probably my favorite show
September 10th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Dak, as long as we bragging. My best friends sister is married to the guy who wrote CSI and all the spinoffs.
Zuckerman?
September 10th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
No pre-practice update on Jovan? I think he is hangin with Vince Young
September 10th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
[...] [Raiders] Former Raider Warren Sapp Critical Of Team Warren Sapp has taken his act to Showtime, the new residence for Inside the NFL. That cant be good news for the Raiders, as Sapp was unsparing in some of his criticism during a conference call to promote the show. As far as where the Raiders are going, they have unrealistic ideas about what their people can do, Sapp said That was the experience I had in the four years I was there. They asked people to do stuff they were physically impossible of doing. They asked a guy who hadnt coached for 12 years (Tom Walsh) to coach. Theyre going to suck. Sapps assessment of cornerback DeAngelo Hall, burned repeatedly in the 41-14 loss to Denver? DeAngelo Hall has been getting burnt since he was in Atlanta, so this isnt nothing new, Sapp said. DeAngelo Hall is the flashiest burnt-up corner ever in the history of the game. I mean, he gets burnt more than anybody else, and he all of the sudden is this great Pro Bowl cover corner." Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
September 10th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
MR -
I enjoy the show, not for it’s realism or parrallels with the reality of the lives of the LAPD. I enjoy it because it is entertaining.
I lived in LA for over 5 years and know all too well how the LAPD truly is. The new movie with Sam Jackson comes to mind, something Terrace.
Colors was a good flick but also a story of the gangs in LA in the 80’s. It is sooo much different there now. I am so happy to be back in Northern Cali. The gangs in Sonoma County are just pretending.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Two and a Half Men and Family Guy.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
two of my favorite shows Dogg.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I almost want to feel; soory for abrief second after reading what his mama wrote.
But this is not high school or college. This is the NFL. Time to hold a clipboard, maybe next year for JaMarcus.
Al will bring VY along slowly, he promises.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
how has the discussion turned to shows!!!??!!!
im out untile some football comes back into the conversation.
later brothers
September 10th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
STR
The Silver & Black Show and Behind the Shield are 2 of the best shows on tv!
Is that better?
September 10th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
As implausible as fans taking over the Raiders may seem, there is one ace card in the deck. Us fans are not powerful enough for a coup of this magnitude. The NFL, however, is losing money due to Al Davis. The NFL is currently trying to appeal to a global market, and they will never admit it right now, but the Raiders are the most internationally known team. The NFL’s hopes of penetrating the Europe and Latin America markets are greatly bolstered by having a Raiders team that is not a complete embarrasement to itself and the NFL. Goodell would be a fool if he were not considering ways to end Al Davis’ stranglehold on the most marketable franchise in HIS league.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Couldn’t have said it better BART.
JOIN NOW!
September 10th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
While we’re at it.
Deadliest Catch & Mythbusters
September 10th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
RAI…..DERS…. Says:
September 10th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Hey – I just had a nasty nightmare of the Donkeys demolishing our team 41-14……It was a nightmare right? …..Someone please tell me it wasn’t true….please!….SH1T!!!! It was real.
Oh, it was just a bad dream. Go back to sleep and this time you’ll dream what really happened. Since the NFL does not have a team called the donkeys, what really happened is this: At McAfee baseball field the “DENVER BRONCOS” led by 3rd year QB “JAY CUTLER” and rookie WR “EDDIE “YOUR MAJESTY” ROYAL” demolished the choakland faders. This young combination along with 3rd year WR Brandon Marshall will give you nightmares for years and years and years to come.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Al wont budge
The refs need to give us a fair shake and then an extra shake.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Once again the Raiders are a team that is a powerhouse between the 20’s and a powderpuff in the redzone. They can move the ball all day long and look as good as Esther Baxter in a thong, but if you cant score it doesnt matter. Its like in baseball, you can hit singles, doubles, and triples all day, but if you can’t do any of the three with runners in scoring positions than all those hits mean squat. The defense did a horrible job and had no pass rush but they also had no support. Even if the defense held them to a respectable score, we still lose because of lack of offense.
One poster said that Kiffin doesnt have the respect of his players because of Al…EGGGHHHH, wrong buddy he doesnt have the respect of his players because of his own selfish attitude. If Kiffin used the way Al runs this orginization as a rallying cry and give his players that “us against the world” attitude instead of trying to use Al as scapegoat, he might get more results. Rob Ryan is a much maligned coach by everyone in the nation because well he cant coach, but he has the unflinching respect of his players. His troops would follow him to hell with gasoline jackets on. That is the type of loyalty and trust that kiffin must instill in his players.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Kiffin is “DEAD MAN WALKING”….He knows it, to his own pleasure, and the Raider Players know it!!! This is a pathetic situation!! JUST IN LIMBO, til’ we get another HC!!! Davis is just wating for the right time to cut him loose!!
September 10th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
hey dogg, ive never seen them so i couldnt tell you.
but they sound great just with the names
September 10th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
speaking of Mythbusters: the site where they perform most of their “busting” should be the future home of the Raiders. Alameda Point is currently being looked at as a development site for homes, but in this economy, that plan is going nowhere. The only thing standing in the way of this plan is the mistrust politicians have for Al Davis.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
September 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
does anyone feel like explaining to me the relevance of this “NATION Collective”? Just curious.
It’s actually very simple. All the remnants of fader nashun goes across the bay to SF and steal all the Porches, Bentleys and Rolls they can find. They bring them back to choakland sell them for a dollah and a quartah, put in .99 cents to the collective, buy the faders from greazy al and run the ship any way they see fit. The only negative of this plan is at .99 cents a pop who is going to be the majority owner? I hope your plan does work. I’d love to see greazy al out of the NFL!
September 10th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Hey Jerry,
How come you didn’t mention Sapp’s OTHER show???
Dancing with the Stars!!!
September 10th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Firing Kiffin would be a disaster. That means an entire new offensive scheme for JaMarcus Russell. As we can see across the bay and in Tennessee with Vince Young, changing systems is a disaster for young QBs. How many years has guys like Brady, Manning (both), Favre, Hasselback etc…spend in the same system. One of the reasons this team has been terrible is because of our frequent changing of head coaches. And thats because Al doesn’t allow his people to coach. If (read when) Al fires Kiffen, lets stop the charade and make Al Davis the formal head coach.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Severe – Didn’t know who Esther Baxter was till 15 minutes ago, I thank you so very much!
September 10th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Andrews Mom Says:
September 10th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Dak, as long as we bragging. My best friends sister is married to the guy who wrote CSI and all the spinoffs.
Zuckerman?
Mom-as long as we bragging. My nieces, aunt on her mothers side lives next door to a lady who has a sister who lives next door to Mike Shannahan. You know who he is, right? The coach that will haunt greazy al until greazy al pays up or dies.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
SAPP is a Joker!! He’s a BIG FAT A-hole!!! He does’nt identify himself as an X-RAIDER!! After he retired he said his BIGGEST REGRET “was not retireing as a BUCANEER!!!
F’ YOU SAPP!!!…..You BIG BLOB!!!
You’r an A-hole and an IDIOT!!
September 10th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
I agree S & B, but we don’t know how well Kiffen develops young QB’s. I have more confidence in Gregg Knapp developing Russell than Kiffen.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
I liked The Wonder years…now, thats a shows!
September 10th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
I just have one thing to say – I will now end all of my posts with “Al’s will be done…” until he is no longer sucking air!
Oh yeah, “Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Raider Glory Says:
September 10th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Kiffin is “DEAD MAN WALKING”….
No! You dumb fock, the Undertaker is “DEAD MAN WALKING”….
September 10th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Not to mention, charles in charge, mr belveder, small wonder,differnt strokes,knight rider, chips, and saturday morning wwf,
September 10th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
May be true Vegas Raider. However, I am more concerned with a consistent playbook than the actual coaching. Meaning, swapping out a position coach, who teaches fundamentals is less of an impact than switching out a playbook and all that goes along with it. Problem is the offense the Raiders have installed is probably a more complex system. Russell, and the rest of the offense, is working hard trying to master this system. Unfortunately, when Al fires Kiffin, get ready for Bed & Breakfast II, whether its Lofton or Fassel that functions as the on-field spokesperson for Head Coach Al Davis
September 10th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Spider!!
Did you Fcuk your best friends sis!! LOL!! I bet you did huh??
Go eat a Shanahan DICK!!!
You li’l BITCH!!
September 10th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
What, we are going back to the 80s now?… great shows, great cartoons, great music, great years.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Well loooozers, it’s nice to hear that you have such a variety of shows to watch on the boob tube, since all your home games will be blacked out.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
philly,
You are very welcome
September 10th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
REPOST
For those of you need statistical evidence: Through 1 week of football.
Oakland Offense:
TOTAL OFFENSE – 15th
Pass Yds – 22nd
Rush Yds – 8th
Points – 23rd
Oakland Defense:
TOTAL DEFENSE – 29th
Pass Yds – 29th
Rush Yds – 23rd
Points – 32nd
Conclusion: Offense looks better – Defense looks like the same ol’ crap! Lets just hope they get on the same page and Ryan finally learns what ATTACK means.
Is this a trend here? The better the offense gets the worst the defense gets? Or maybe its always been that way but teams just didn’t attack as much b/c the offense wasn’t that good. 1 week down. We’ll see how the rest unfolds.
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Listen. I beleive this defense can be a very good defense. But only if Rob Ryan gets more aggressive. If he pulls that same sht all season we are in deep sht. All it takes is a few blitzes here and there – smart blitzes that work. Thats all you players need. Ryan is capable of mixing it up I’ve seen it. He just has to do it and stop coaching scared.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Main thing I do not get is that why do the players love rob ryan so much? It was his scheme that got us burnt monday night. The guy has never had a good overall year defensively yet the players stick by him I dont get it.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Spider CRAWLED up his best friends sister ’s cooch!
You HORNY BRONCO bastard,YOU!! LOL!
Keep you’re tanticles to yourself, you IDIOT!!
September 10th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I LOVE WARREN SAPP. HE WAS AN EMOTIONAL PHYSICAL LEADER ON THE RAIDERS DURING HIS TUNURE. WE NEED HIM RIGHT NOW.
ARAM ROUBINIAN Sec 130 Row 5 Seat 5
September 10th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
I just don’t get you guys with this Fire Kiffin stuff. Its some of the most idiotic things you can blog on because it flies directly in the face of the “real” problem.
The offense improved: CLEARLY
The defense sucked: CLEARLY
So why are we getting rid of Kiffin again?
Really. It just sounds stupid to want to fire a guy in light of such dramatic improvements. Yet a few of you still keep up with that rant. Its like wanting to accept a D student over an A student. Assbackwards!
September 10th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
JT — Rob Ryan is like that supervisor who doesn’t provide constructive feedback or doesn’t tell it like it is. I bet he tries to buddy up with his players and he also serves as a shield from Kiffin. This is what happens when the head coach is subverted from the top. Basically Al Davis is the head coach and Lane Kiffin is like the Assistant Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator. The Assistant Head Coach title is because Kiffin also acts as the team spokersperson, practice coordinator and on-field Raider representative for referee purposes and hand shaking of the opposing coach at the end of the game.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Esther Baxter, nice.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Collective Nation = P!SSING INTO THE WIND.
Just Win Baby.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
I have read that JR is not a good fit for this system.
Is there evidence to back this up?
September 10th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
JT
He had one good year when Art was here. Thats it. And thats up for debate on whether it was him or that pitful offense.
But the players clearly quit on him and the team at the end of the game while the Offense kept fighting. That was it for me. I’m not so sure they respect him anymore irregardless of their public comments.
In comes Kiffin – The offense is now a threat and the defense (i.e. Ryan) begin to show their true colors. He can still get in front of this. There are 15 games left. He must get more aggressive or else all is lost.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Collective doesn’t mean a certain number of a group, it means ALL of a group. This “collective” does not speak for me, nor most other fans — no matter how much it hurts to lose.
What the “collective” is doing is embarrassing themselves every time they reach out to journalists and the league office, trying to make their weakly-formulated “case” against the Oakland Raiders and Al Davis.
Why would a real fan of this team try to do such a thing? The losses aren’t embarrassing enough on their own?
Keep advertising your silly arguments to the outside world, and keep embarrassing yourselves — but don’t speak for ALL life-long diehard fans if you don’t have their support.
Another thing…..it’s not too difficult to see the ringleaders of the alleged collective would like to drive hits to some other website — is there another, more nefarious, reason for trying to rally the troops, besides the idiotic and impossible task of trying to wrest control of the franchise from its present owners? If this weren’t so stupid, it would be funny.
Here’s a hint to the so-called leaders of this non-movement: Before you embarrass yourselves even more, maybe you should use a little spell-check every once in awhile. Oh — and try to understand the words you’re using, and how they’re used in formulating proper sentences. An occasional spelling error isn’t a problem — but showing a lack of knowledge and maturity sure is.
After all, you’re allegedly supposed to be representing a better option for the team than what’s currently available. The people you’re contacting — if you really are doing such a self-humiliating thing — are sitting back and laughing at you. If any of this movement does grow legs, those other people won’t be laughing with you, they will be laughing at you even more. At least those people know how to speak and spell. Most of them do, anyway.
Real fans will stay with this team ’til the end. And do it proudly, win or lose.
No mutiny from this quarter. Not now, not ever.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
man dont hate on sapp because hes telling the truth and we know it especially when ahem mr bed n breakfast cam in to coach, I mean totally looser-ish lol and his assesment on D.Hall…….the red flags are shinning as bright as a lighthouse and im flat out worried. Denver showed no reguard for D.hall and went right at him and hardly ever looked asomuaghs way who knows maybe the both would have had their hands full if brandon marshall would have played, Im still down for the raiders I know we will get it back next week against the chiefs
September 10th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Surprised to hear that Angelo Hall is not practicing. To borrow a line and change the words from Abe Lincoln “If Angelo doesn’t have to practice, no one has to practice!!!!!”
September 10th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I ask myself this question over and over, Why is Rob fuking Ryan still the def. corr. ? Why ? How can Al keep this bum? Is he sucking Al off after each game? Why is he still here ? Nobody knows, just baffling.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I completely, Great job Sapp! I agree 100% that deHall has been regularly burnt throughout he’s career and that he’s way overrated…Also agree 100% on what friking Rob Ryan asks his players to do, it’s not physically possible to stop the offense when prevent is called 100% of the time…On Kelly, I don’t care, we’ve seen Kelly have a nice play or two, that’s about it.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Hey, I recently moved back to New York and need help finding a place to watch Raiders games with fellow fans preferably in Manhattan. Does anyone have any suggestions?
September 10th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Hey Nation, here’s some commentary from Adam True for ya! Let me know what you guys think.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2008/09/its-not-the-work-thats-hard-its-the-discipline/
Hail Esther Baxter and
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Terrapin,
The players as a unit, especially the older guys dont appear to like Kiffin very much!! He’s too young and has no personality!! Always throwing Al Davis under the BUS!! Perhaps Al deserves it!! But it does not bode well in the players eyes!! RR is more like by his defense than Kiffin is like by his offense!! IMO!!
September 10th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Is any fan out there bothered by the fact that our defense just quit? Did you notice that Ryan had NO ANSWER for anything they were doing on offense. Yea Al you fuk up, when you screwed Shannarat, that could be us scoring 41 points, you moron. I say lets get Marty Shottiehiemer, we need a whole new front office, and Al dont help the scouting department come draft time!
September 10th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
RG and Terrapin -
If you ask me, Rob Ryan is like the substitute teacher that let’s you get away with all kinds of bullsh!t and not do your work. You don’t learn anything or get any better but you love the azzhole anyway!!! LOL!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Schottenheimer would never want to coach this team!! He would want to STRANGLE the old man!!!
September 10th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Philly Raider…
I just read that blog, from Treu.
A very good observation from him.
Every ONE here, should read that.
Thanx, for the link. Philly Raider
September 10th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
To me its clear that the real problem is Rob Ryan…I think he purposely having the D play like they dont care,..hey its obvious they dont care,…Ryan is gon in 3 months, all know that,..he wanted to be with the Jets this year and was forced to stay….next year there will be a whole new staff from head coach down,..Knapp in Seattle,….Russell will end up like Alex Smith, terrible ownership with new coaches every other year with no chance at success…the only hope we have is a players strike, or nuclear war. Keepin it real.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Those lucky Titans! Why the hell can’t Rob frigin Ryan go all Vince Young on us and run to the woods to cry and moan that his job is too tough and that he want’s to quit. We hate you Rob!… I know javon already did this but Al talked that quitter out of the woods, godarnit!
September 10th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Rob Ryan should just go to some basic vanilla defenses that emphasize man-2-man outside and sends a safety blitz or linebacker blitz every once in a while. Heck, look up some of the defenses on Madden 2009 and go with that
September 10th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Thanks 909! I agree with you and that’s why I wanted comments. It secretly says alot about the team’s issues we don’t think about!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Philly R,
Perhaps you’re correct!! The OLD RAIDER WAY was just as you say!! They F’ed OFF during the WEEK but always brought it on Sundays!!
These Raiders are just FCUK UP’s!!
September 10th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
NYfan — Ask again on this forum LATE at night, when most restaurants in NY are finally closed…look for SilverandBlackChef — he’s in NYC, and checks this site after work almost every night. I bet he can give you a few options.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Kiffin isnt there to be everyones friend, and thats why RR sucks he wants to be buddy buddy with guys, and praise them and talk them up when they stink, for the longest time there has always been a problem with discipline and kiffin the one with no “personality” is the one trying to instill that with this team, and after 1 year the guy has made siginificant strides even with the limited power he has because of A.D 200 year old fingers always pulling strings, RR on the other hand has been here 5 freaking years and guess where we’ve been ranking against the run? in the freakin 30’s im convinced RR has to get the boot. Al Davis take your 400 year old boot and give it to him
September 10th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
I’ll be right back guys, wifey’s gripin about something. I told her azz I was in mourning from Mon Nite!!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Dogg,
Did you see this post? Was she the actress you were thinking of?
_______________________________________________________
Dakota Says:
September 10th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Dogg,
She is my ex’s sister, and she played Paula on a few episodes…her fiancé, or husband (it has been 7 years since I met them) is the guy that plays Gardocki.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
The Raiders need new blood with experience. These guys are weak. Strahan would have been a great raider.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
LOL S&B thats funny!! yeah take a page out of madden09 lol
September 10th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
If anyone knows anything about being burnt up and washed out it is Sapp. That douchebag wrote the book.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
I do believe that if we go like 2-14,..unsure where those 2 wins will come from though,..that maybe the old man will be forced to stay home and the rest of the brass and investors will hire a GM, maybe Holmgren,..he wants to return to No-Cal where hes from,..have Holmgren hire his coach, his,…I do believe that a horrible record this year and even Als supporters will no longer support him,…..Trask and company….so there will be a silver lining in going 1-15 this year,…unsure where that 1 win will come from though.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Sapp was a great raider, before he retired….
September 10th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
i never liked the guy from day one, took all the money and didn’t shyt for us in four years
September 10th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Man I don’t know…
Too harsh or dead on?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/
It is only one game you know?
Then again, its been FIVE YEARS.
Gawd I hope we play better on Sunday…Chiefs suck.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
When I hear people like Mike Ditka talking The Raiders down, as much as I hate hearing it, I can’t disagree with it until they start proving on the field that it is undeserved.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
For those of you who see and understand this vision and undertaking
and want to see this team return to its greatness and glory
acknowledge yourself as the:
NATION Collective…..
September 10th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Goals of the NATION collective
1. Become the Voice of the Raider Nation Fan Base.
2. Setup True NFL structure within the Raider Organization
3. Hire all new blood, new meaning new to the NATION collective. Key hires GM, Player Personnel/scouting dept, and Hr dept.
4. Improve the Image of the NATION.
5. Become relevant by putting a winning product on the field.
6. Increase the value of the NATION. This franchise should be one of the top 3 NFL franchises in terms of value yet the NATION is worldwide we need to capitalize on that. We are 28th….
7. Improve profitability of the franchise.
8. Win SB in 5 yrs max.
9. Build the Dynasty, and return the NATION to it glory.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Andrews Mom – cool – I agree mostly – Al is not a terrible GM – I’ve looked at past drafts and he’s average – minus the Janikowski selection Al’s done what most people expect him to do – he may overdraft here and there, but no worse than a lot of other teams. My issue isn’t with his drafting or free agent signings – he will always spend what he can to aquire talent – you’ll never find us 20 mil below the cap and there is no question he wants to win. My issue with Al is the fact that he gets too involved with the scheme – it used to be he actually called plays (I personally know this through former employees in L.A. and also Jerry and others have reported on this, so between the two I’m pretty confidant in that statement). Now Al just gets involved in the scheme – that Rob Ryan man scheme is Al’s doing, and Rob is playing Al to keep his job by defending players that shouldn’t be defended so they beg for him to come back after a bad year. I think old Rob is holding out for a HC position. Anyway, the entire planet knows we don’t blitz and just sit in man coverage all day so they might as well have our defensive playbook. Add to that we don’t have the personnel to stop the run or rush the passer on the D line, and it makes playing us very easy, especially for good teams. You can pick your person to blame, either Al for insisting that Ryan run that D or plain just not firing him when his Head Coach asked him to fire Ryan, or Ryan for running what other teams and commentators have called a vanilla scheme. Somebody has to be blamed, and it can’t be Kiffin b/c he wanted Ryan’s big b*tt booted. I absolutely understand the point of this scheme, and the personnel required to run it – we need three more players – NT and two DE’s that can hold the point of attack and rush the passer (think Howie Long and Greg Townsend) and this scheme might work, assuming Hall becomes the lock down corner opposite Nnamdi – speaking of which, if Ryan was going to either play him or let him play 10 yards off the line, we may as well of kept Washington and our 2nd rounder because the point to acquire him was to have him play press/bump and run. If he can’t do it, then we (meaning our scouting department and Al Davis) royally messed up (lost draft pick, wasted salary cap money for years). Anyway, Rob Ryan (the self-proclaimed “head coach of the defense) and/or Al must be held accountable for not adjusting the scheme to compensate for our lack of talent on the D line. I’m not concerned with the fact that we don’t have talent there because I understand that we have been rebuilding both sides of the ball and it takes years to do that and we’ve addressed a lot of other needs, but seriously, look around the league, there are a lot of teams with less talent that can play better d because they run a decent scheme (like the Tampa 2 I was hoping for) – we must play to our strengths (our pass D *WHEN WE CAN GET SOME PRESSURE!*) and scheme to mitigate our weaknesses – run D and lack of pressure from the front 4 in the pass game. During the offseason I was hoping we would convert to a 3-4, moving Burgess to OLB, Kelly to End, and Richardson to End. If we did that, and drafted or aquired a veteran NT, we would have a top 15 D. At this stage, I basically want to run a 4-6, blitz the hell out of the run and pass, and give our secondary the opportunity to play press coverage without having to cover guys for 4-7 seconds. We have an all-pro secondary and two good Cover LB’s, and between Brown, Morrison, and Howard, three quick (especially Brown and Howard – sub 4.4/5 guys) LB’s that can get up the field to the QB or into the backfield fast. This isn’t rocket science – what we are doing won’t work against good teams until we get “hall of famers across the board (as Jerry Porter famously said about Art Shell’s offense which coincidentally comes from the same era as Rob Ryan’s D).
On offense, there’s only so much Kiffin can do – 1st year QB and a bad pass blocking line – he must have the run game to set up the pass, and he is relying on his D, and rightfully so given the amount of time and money thrown that way on this scheme and what he has to work with, to keep his team in games so he can continue to run the ball and work off play action. Kiffin’s hands are tied, it was a miracle he was able to get 17 points a game last year as he was trying to work through who was good and who wasn’t.
Kiffin’s offense is shannahan’s offense, obviously it can put up points when the pieces are there and it gives us a great run game which will open up everything else. I expect 8-10 wins this year based on our offseason moves and our soft schedule, but we’re not going to get it with this D unless we get aggressive.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
If they ever are going to play better I would think it would be this Sunday. They hopefully feel very embarrassed right now and should be itching for Sunday to get here to put this embarrassment behind them.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Problem is this franchise is not run like a “normal” NFL sports franchise. With clarity brings some tough decisions. Continue to go on and lose and accept it as “fans”. Or hold the team, and owners accoutable…
The owners of this team we love so much need to be held accountable to us the fans for the product they put on the field…
September 10th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Koolaid,..they are not embarrassed, not at all,…they are only in it for the money,..they do not care about wins and losses,..just the money…is that hard for you to understand?…you think these Raiders care about winning?…they clearly do not. 0-16, keepin it real.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
OK, wifey flameout no. 9,999,572 is settled… BTW, if you are single – STAY SINGLE! But if you’re married – STAY MARRIED!! Definately cheaper to keep her! Anyway -
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
The owners, and the players need to be held accountable to you the fans…
September 10th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
HayesDaze#37 Says:
September 10th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Collective doesn’t mean a certain number of a group, it means ALL of a group. This “collective” does not speak for me, nor most other fans — no matter how much it hurts to lose.
What the “collective” is doing is embarrassing themselves every time they reach out to journalists and the league office, trying to make their weakly-formulated “case” against the Oakland Raiders and Al Davis.
Why would a real fan of this team try to do such a thing? The losses aren’t embarrassing enough on their own?
Keep advertising your silly arguments to the outside world, and keep embarrassing yourselves — but don’t speak for ALL life-long diehard fans if you don’t have their support.
Another thing…..it’s not too difficult to see the ringleaders of the alleged collective would like to drive hits to some other website — is there another, more nefarious, reason for trying to rally the troops, besides the idiotic and impossible task of trying to wrest control of the franchise from its present owners? If this weren’t so stupid, it would be funny.
Here’s a hint to the so-called leaders of this non-movement: Before you embarrass yourselves even more, maybe you should use a little spell-check every once in awhile. Oh — and try to understand the words you’re using, and how they’re used in formulating proper sentences. An occasional spelling error isn’t a problem — but showing a lack of knowledge and maturity sure is.
After all, you’re allegedly supposed to be representing a better option for the team than what’s currently available. The people you’re contacting — if you really are doing such a self-humiliating thing — are sitting back and laughing at you. If any of this movement does grow legs, those other people won’t be laughing with you, they will be laughing at you even more. At least those people know how to speak and spell. Most of them do, anyway.
Real fans will stay with this team ’til the end. And do it proudly, win or lose.
No mutiny from this quarter. Not now, not ever.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Philly,
check out Angel Lola Luv, she is my second fave behind only Esther.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Whats Ron Rivera doing anyway?
We need to find a coach to fire up this defense and make some plays.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Hayes #37,If people want to help,Buy season tickets!I agree w/youre post,lets get behind the Raiders,we should have zero blackouts,our fan base is awesome,they need to grab some money,show the NFL that this market is not a joke!
September 10th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Rivera is the LB coach for SD I think…
September 10th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Naw Severe,
That chick got surgery! It’s all fake, check the YouTube vid!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV2VRtRobRE
But thanks anyway!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
We need Mike Singletary.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Hey Severe,
This is tight azz! And it’s real growth, dude. I’ve loved this chick for years!
http://www.girlskickbutt.com/images/girls/jenna_von_oy/jenna_von_oy_009.jpg
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
philly,
Now thats commitment to excellence, just win baby.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Dakota,
The player or the coach????
September 10th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Yeah baby, YEAH!!! LOL!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
LMFAO philly your a clown man, that was soo funny1 I wholeheartedly agree with ya
September 10th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Check it Severe,
If you wanna go dark bro, go deep, dark choc-lat!
http://www.hhdb.com/hip-hop-honeys/114/1263/bria_myles_bending_down_in_white_lingerie/Bria_Myles
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Funny sheet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZB09oLWa2s
September 10th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Rob Ryan is getting the benefit of an inflated statistical performance in 2006. We all know what happened with the bed & breakfast offense. This defense was showing problems during the preseason. Remember that Tennessee breakdown at the end of the game. The scheme was jacked up and the QB drove down the field for the winning drive.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
jenna got a fat AZZ yeah thats what im talkin bout keep em comming philly
September 10th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
DAKOTA, you are a FUKKIN NUT dude!!! ROFLMAO again!!!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
LMFAO Dakota man that was priceless!!!!
September 10th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
I’m sorry but Hall a burnout corner I don’t see that. I seen him get beat but I also seen give the beating. Nobody’s perfect. I liked Sapp in Tampa/Oakland but as an talk show host, he tries too hard to be funny and jokes that he thinks are “Hilarious” really aren’t. I do agree the Raiders expect more from the players they sign but they are usually a bust or on the verge of being a bust. Stop living in the Glory Days Of The Raiders AL and get some young talent for the future (Russell,McFadden) will be the future bust for Oakland if they don’t get o-line improved
September 10th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Hold up DBW,
We can’t disappoint the Nation bros who like meat upstairs either!
http://www.hhdb.com/hip-hop-honeys/65/623/vanessa_zotth_peaches/Vanessa_Zotth
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I was there standing next to the Violater and I can tell you one thing, it was ugly. That area of Oakland is awful and too many thugs are allowed in the game. This team is leaving Oakland in two years because the NFL will make it happen to save the franchise. Russell played well and Kiffin should have opened the playbook from the beginning instead of telling Shanarat he was going to play conservative then actually doing it. Ryan needs to go. One other note, Shanarat is kissing Jeff Fisher on the mouth for recommending Cutler. Davis got lucky getting Russell but not taking Cutler could haunt him for years to come. Russell and McFadden were the only bright spots in that game.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Sith, I agree. The thug sh!t needs to go. But I widh our D-line had 1/1,000,000 of that type of attitude!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Sorry *wish*
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Sith Lord–No regrets not getting Cutler. Cutler would be shellshocked like Walter was playing in an offense that defies logic. He also would have to deal with the same dysfunctions that Russell is trying to manage. Russell can be a good QB and his first two starts have really not been that bad. 65%+ completion ratings and a couple of TD passes. People around Russell have to make plays and run crisp routes. Hell, Russell would have looked good too if he got 6 and 7 seconds to throw
September 10th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
yo filly that was the best one thanks
September 10th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Alright guys, stop looking at those chicks and get back on the blog!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Yo Severe & DBW,
You guys know Ki Toy?!!
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“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
OK …enough with the other stuff. Lets talk about football here. I think this team “should” beat KC; but no more than the should have beaten Denver. I will not predict a victory b/c I don’t trust Rob Ryan. Simple as that! 2 run blitzes 1 pass blitz all game …in the face of Zero pressure on the QB all game? That just signifies incompetence. And the defense quit on him. The effort totally plummeted late in the 3rd Quarter. They were embarrassed and I don’t know if you can get the players back after that.
Offensively I expect JRussell to continue to show what he’s capable of. I expect DMC to really put it on KC (hopefully). Javon should have a nice day. Lelie should start opposite Javon until he proves he’s no more reliable than Curry. But I’m not so sure that will happen given Curry position is a bit tougher to learn. The passing attack should be more stable.
Herm will play Herm ball and try to run it all game. Or maybe he goes after Hall thinking he’s got his Huckleberry.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
PhillyRaider…
Thanx, for the flicks…You have a good eye for talent. Maybe you should come out, to the Island, and help the Old Man out..lol
September 10th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Kelly should at least jog to the sidelines. When he leaves the field he walks, thats not good leadership.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
My pleasure 909!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
yeah man!!!
September 10th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Where the hell is Huff?!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
our d-line was being moved like a loaf of bread like sap said they get low they will win in the trenches thats what kelly and sands
September 10th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Hello,Hello,has Mr Davis offered the OAKLAND RAIDERS for sale? Hell no ,sorry ,you must be under the influence,I will NEVER play youre game,Raiders,WIN OR LOSE!!!!After one game,lets cry some more,you want to buy something,try season tickets!!!
September 10th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Huff24,
The only guy in history to ever post porn on a sports blog! I love this place!!
(the chick was gutted though)
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Huff was on one-on-one coverage with their 2nd receiver. Sigh….
September 10th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Hey, when the d-line always has to go 4 on 5 vs the opponent’s o-line, they are always going to get owned…throw in a LB blitzing once in a while and maybe our d-line looks a little better?
September 10th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
needs 2 do
September 10th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Sith Lord Davis, there are thugs in the crowd, but it’s not the majority base of Raider fans, and what do you mean the Raiders will leave in 2 years because the NFL will make it happen to save the franchise? Save the franchise? The Raiders are raking in the cash cow with record ticket sales now that they’ve taken over their own business, now what do you mean by save?
September 10th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Davis won’t sell the Raiders, he will move them because the NFL be thrilled to get out of Oakland.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Good point Dakota. You know, at this point I would take Rob Ryan just copying every call his dad ever made step by step. We’d at least have a top 15 D!!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Where was the safety blitz? Have Angelo Hall and Nnamdi on one-on-one press and send a safety or blitz a linebacker. Blitz from different sides of the field. Move players around……If Rob Ryan doesn’t change the approach we will lose to the Chiefs….guaranteed!!!! and they better not let Bowe run wild either
September 10th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Jerry Mac…
About time for a FIX.
Or, is Kiff running a 3hr. practice?
From what I saw on Mon. they could use it.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Raider Rain when you get panhandled getting off the Bart shuttle every day its never a sign of good things to come.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
and there are thugs in the crowd in Philly, New York and Cleveland. Oakland just gets played up because we aren’t winning. When you don’t win, people spend time scrutinizing coaches, owners, fans, media, the moon and lousy t.v shows.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
If you are a head coach of another team preparing to play The Raiders how could you not go after Hall after last week?
September 10th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Saw Cutler’s after-the-game interview and HE said Royal was just makin up sh!t to get open! NO receiver should EVER get enough time to do that kinda sh!t!! WTF, playground sh!t!!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Sith Lord Davis, when did the NFL say they wanted out of Oakland?
September 10th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
There is even grafitti on aluminum siding on the homes near there, on businesses, on vans, ect… It’s bad.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Post Game Headline
THE LIGHTS WERE ON BUT NOBODY WAS HOME.
The entire franchise sucks Monday night. Plain and simple. Nobody came to play, or coach, or own.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
They won’t stop a move by the A’s or the Raiders unless the city cleans the place up and they got two years to do it.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Davis and Ryan need to go if they won’t blitz.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
I don’t know how they deal with it at the MAC, S&B, but when Philly opened the Linc they had all those warning commercials then they put a judge IN the stadium! The started havin the notorius PHILLY PD whoop some azz right in the stands and then they served the dudes fines and sentences IN the stadium! That cooled that sh!t down real fast! LOL!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
What kind of family atmosphere are you promoting if you let people smoke blunts and drink beer on the Bart shuttle?
September 10th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
And thats what I was saying Philly Raider #208
Ryan wasn’t helping his players at all. He did nothing to help them. Except dial up a 3-4 defense just to have everyone drop in coverage and blitz no one; which made the pass rush even worse. I.N.C.O.M.P.E.T.E.N.C.E. And thats why it looked like they quit on him.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Sith Lord Davis, what are you talking about? Panhandling & Graffiti? Oh what a fine example of the NFL wanting to get out of Oakland. Dude, you attended a football game, not a day at Disneyland, man up guy!
September 10th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
PhillyRaider — That post game was humiliating for the Raiders. Cutler sitting up there saying they didn’t win by game planning, it was just one-on-one match ups all day. To say Royal beat Hall over and over and over again….disgraceful…I hope Angelo Hall saw that press conference and learns to keep his mouth shut and play…also, angelo had better have practiced today too. If he can’t press his guy he is useless
September 10th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I would not take a child to a game in Oakland Raider Rain, would you?
September 10th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
What was it? One blitz called on ten or eight 3rd downs …Wow …thats one way to fool the opposition.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
“they put a judge IN the stadium!” that is hilarious!!!! Judge and jury at the game. We needed a judge Monday night to serve Hall with willful neglect charges.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Cutler also said the Raiders blitzed alot and we all know thats a lie.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
David White, over at sfgate has a fix up.
It has some quotes from Kiff, on the D.
Kiff more or less said: “Go ask Ryan/Al, not my job.”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Terrapin, S&B, until we get Ol’Wrinkled Azz outta here I think we’re in for more of the same. I don’t wanna believe it but I think it’s true.
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Drink Beer & Smoke Blunts on the Bart Shuttle? What does the NFL or the Raiders organization have to do with public transpiration? If you have a problem with people on Bart, you should call Bart Police.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Did any of you see the HBO series Band of Brothers? In the first few episodes of that series the Ross actor from friends was the Lt. commanding the company. He talked a good game, but when it came to actual action, he blew goats and his men had no respect for him and they sucked.
Rob Ryan is like that guy, talks a big game and says all the right things, but when the pressure is on he chokes…ALL OF THE TIME.
FIRE ROB FUKING RYAN!
September 10th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
The fans could clean up the act but they are too afraid.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
AL DAVIS is going to show the whole world he is a genius…..
All of you shyt talkers remember I said this….
AND REMEMBER WHO TOLD YOU!
September 10th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Sith Lord my man,
Cutler just doesn’t wanna give the Raiders incentive for game two.
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Philly Raider — I am almost with you on Al but the truth is the defense does have talent. Look at the roster on defense,…Nnamdi and Gibril have known success and Angelo Hall did go to a pro-bowler….Morrison and Howard are supposed to be good. Huff is playing his natural position and is supposed to be a stud when we drafted him….Burgess is supposed to be dominant and Kelly too…..If Davis is willing to stick to old philosophies and lose on some misguided stubborness, then that whole “Just Win Baby” is B.S
September 10th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Keep Ryan…his heart is in the right place…he has loyalty and can learn…
Fire Kiffin, who signed his contract solely for the MONEY!
September 10th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Keep all of them….get rid on LANE!
September 10th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Nation Collective if you want to become relevant, I can make it real easy for you. Just find 1,000 people who are willing to put up $100 grrrrr each as shareholders and you will have some cred. Of course even at those numbers you’ll own about 12% of the team, and you still won’t have a say, but you’ll have some cred.
Did anyone read Nancy Gay’s article in the SF Comical this morning???? It was straight MR. Word for word. I mean we all knew MR was gay, we just didn’t know MR was Nancy Gay. It all makes sense now.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
LOLOL>….IF this is not the most damning statement:
“For the most part, I let Rob do his thing over there,” Kiffin said. “He has a belief in certain things and he has a conversation with the owner about that.”
I feel sorry for the man. Davis, you hired a rebel YOU GOT A REBEL!!
September 10th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Rob needs to call up dad and get a couple of Buddy Ball Blitzes going on…
No Pass Rush = Hall in flames
September 10th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
That is awesome Terp, lol. Kiffin rules.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
S&B, I don’t blame Kiff or Ryan or any of the coaches ultimately. They are who we thought they were. Kiff is young and enthusiastic (at least he was when he arrived). But HE is young. Experienced HCs SHOULD beat him initially. Ryan is an Al lackey and he makes no attempt to hide it. He does Ol’ Wrinkled’s bidding without question, even if it’s causing the house to fall apart. Like Ditka said Monday night, this all starts at the top. He called Al out because he was embarassed for the players and the organization!
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
That stadium was effed up Monday nite. There was soooooo many drunk parolees throwing up all over the stands I couldn’t keep count of em. Sad, really. That is NOT the image the NFL wants.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Where did Kiff say that Terp?
“Al’s will be done…”
September 10th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Sith Lord Davis, the Raiders have a huge family base of fans, and there are seats available for such families, the upper level seats are usually where families with small kids sit, you can’t sit in the Black Hole and expect Sunday School. Dude, don’t come to a football game to smell the roses because a day in the Rose Garden is not what it’s all about.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Heres my point…
Mr Davis and Rob Ryan have been working together for sometime. Here comes Lane, and the first time something goes wrong, he wants to blame everyone outside of himself…
This is not a leader!
A Leader takes responsibility even when its not his fault. This is his job. No one man is more important than any other. Each has a role. When the Head Coach, Kiffin want his D Coordinator gone in the off-season it was the wrong move. A leader would work with what he has, not complain that he has the wrong pieces…
This is the whole problem with this entire country. No one takes responsibility, just a bunch of finger pointing….
If Lane took responsibility last season, perhaps Mr. Davis and Rob Ryan would be more apt to listen to him, they would have built some trust in him and the team would have followed…
This is not the case, and that is why its easy to see the direction the Raiders are headed.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
New post!!
September 10th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Its truly getting sad though b/c its sounding more and more like Kiffin wants no part of being a Raider anymore. Davis ruined this kid. And in turn is ruining the franchise. There I said it. If you guys can’t see it. Oh well…
Any blind man can see that we needed pressure out there. Davis will not listen until the defensive players speak up. He listens to the players. But they won’t b/c they’re too buddy buddy with Ryan and they know its Davis running the system too.
Nothing in particular is wrong with the system imho. What wrong is the person(s) running it won’t be aggressive with it. Still there could be better alternatives out there.
September 10th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Terrapin Says:
September 10th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Its truly getting sad though b/c its sounding more and more like Kiffin wants no part of being a Raider anymore.
That’s how I feel. I’m a big Kiffin fan, but he looked and acted like it was all a big joke. Well, if you’re getting paid $2mm a year, maybe it is a joke. People paying thousands of dollars for season tickets didn’t think it was too funny tho. Sad thing is the joke is on him. Cause you could pay me a lot less to go out there and get rolled. I can go out there, put a head set on, and get completely rolled by the opposition. Nothing special about that.
September 10th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Rob Ryan grew up with a famous coach father who believed in bring pressure and forcing the issue. Why won’t he do it now?
September 10th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
sapp sucks
September 10th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
sapp is right!hall got beat like a drum! Al needs to GO
September 10th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Don’t hate on Sapp. He is keeping it real. He was there and played with the raiders. He was one of the few that actually worked and played hard. ALOT BETTER then kelly. Everything he has said about the raiders is true. It was proven on Monday. They won’t win against KC. They can’t win at home on prime time, they are sure not to win on the road. Sorry fellow raider fans, another horrible game this sunday and season.
September 10th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
You can all diss Sapp all you want but he wasn’t the one shown on TV monday night with his mouth open looking like a slobbering idiot. If Al Davis was one of are relatives we would have a nurse with him 24 hours a day and we would be in control of the relatives finances. But instead we have an owner who gets praised for his football knowledge, when right now he looks more like a man who couldn’t judge talent at a high school game. Look at the draft he drafted people with an east coast bias and no talent. Where are the draft picks at on this roster. The raiders don’t even draft players in there own backyard. We could have drafted Marshawn Lynch and Desean Jackson we could have drafted James Jones out of San jose state but instead we draft guys with reconstructed knees who are still healing. Anybody who knows footbal knows that Hall is a head case who can’t even be mentored by eion Sanders so how the heck is he going to listen to Al. Hell Al couldnt even get the best out of Woodson because he refused to make him practice now he is in green bay practicing every day and poaying dividends.
September 10th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Man I dont know about you guys but all this stuff seems familiar? a team comes out and gets thrashed the first couple of games and everyone thinks they’re the worst team in the world then they have a player who retired the year before on a television show with nothing nice to say about the team and the they pull it together further along down the road and then… bam there in the beg show against arguably one of the best teams ever in nfl history and pull the biggest upset ever in nfl history…. Sound familiar?(;
September 11th, 2008 at 1:24 am
Dont hate on Sapp, the stuff he’s saying is true. DeAngelo hall ISNT that good, he gambles way too much. He’ll get his picks that way but he wont be able to cover consistantly. And what he said about Kelly is true too.
September 11th, 2008 at 6:26 am
Why you guys mad at Sapp?!
Dude is speaking the truth. I love it!
September 11th, 2008 at 8:57 am
Warren Sapp. The leader of the worst defense the Raiders have ever had. Do i really need to say more?
I am just glad i don’t have to watch Sapp get blown by on a running play while trying to get a sack on a QB who handed off two seconds before. Again, Warren Sapp, the leader of the worst defense the Raiders have ever had.
September 11th, 2008 at 10:41 am
Man, it embarrasses me to read the comments of some of my fellow Raiders fans. Guys please stop, some of you are absolutely delusional. Our owner is a clueless. He has been running this franchise to the ground for a decade. When we get something going he’s the first to open his mouth and destroy it. And please be rational with your expectations. We are not going to be good this year. Our o-line and d-line are both weak and outside of RB depth our offense will be average. We can say all negative comments we want regarding Sapp but the fact of the matter is he knows a lot more about how the Raiders are run than we do.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:58 am
That does not change the fact that Sapp Was the leader of the worst defense in the history of the Raiders. DT’s stop the run. They are paid to stop the run. I guess warren gets a free pass though.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Warren Sapp can kick rocks barefoot. He was never really a Raider.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Oscar, remember this one thing: There would be no Oakland Raiders if it wasn’t for Al Davis. Regardless of what some of you “fans” think, those 3 super bowl rings DO mean something.The man has the right to do what he wants with the team, the best way he knows how, even in failure. The dude is 79 years old. He will be gone soon enough. Until then either represent the team with the commitment Al does or go be a Chargers fan or something. Al hasn’t played a down in years (if ever!) so he can only do so much.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
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September 11th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
The Nation is feeling the collective snickers of all of the fans of the teams we have murdered in the past and it sucks. If you are not pissed then you are not a Raider fan. I love what Al has done in the past. But this sh-iite has to change. I can’t put myself thru the emotional roller coaster anymore. I have always had Al’s back, but now its getting harder and harder to keep defending this organization. Its starting to feel like one of these mindless republican pundits constantly defending Bush even though he is the worlds biggest f-up. What to do????
September 11th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
And i enjoyed watching De angelo hall alot more the first time we had him. When his name was Phillip Bucahnnon.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Al has earned the right to go out on his own terms, like it or not.
Hopefully the return to greatness begins in 2009 when he fires Kiffin and Ryan for their equal suckitude and hires the Great Rich Gannon to right the ship. And for those who werent paying attention, Kiffin’s gameplan wasnt much better than Ryans. Run, run, pass, punt. Theres plenty of blame to go around here, yet Kiffin is always so quick to remind everyone that its not his fault. Screw visor boy! Im Rich Gannon b*tch!
September 12th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I am a die-hard Raiders fan, and Sapp is right! Hall needs more skills. As far as Al Davis goes, he still wants to be the coach, that is why we won’t win. Kiffin will be gone after this year. Another Gruden like coach to leave the Raiders. Unbelievable! How can you, “Just Win Baby,” when you can’t hold on to a good coach? Al Davis should go somewhere and play checkers.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Hey sapp is just calling a spade a spade!! Im a oakland raider fan and will be till the day I die but in all honesty the raiders are so far gone and i think it starts from the top! (hint hint) Also Sapp is correct about Hall when we picked him up as a free agent I thought WtF must be Al davis who picked him up cause I can name two Wr who humiliated him everytime they played Steve Smith and Chad Cinco!!!!
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