Investments take a dip
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 at 7:28 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Quick hits from Wednesday’s late afternoon practice and media session:
– Not a great day for some of the Raiders most high priced investments.
Defensive end Tommy Kelly, recipient of an $18.125 million signing bonus in a deal which could reach $50.5 million, decided was arrested for DUI Sunday night because he didn’t spring for a driver. Kelly practiced and will face the Buffalo Bills Sunday at Ralph Wilson Stadium.
Running back Justin Fargas, who cashed in with a $6 million signing bonus and a $12 million contract after breaking 1,000 yards last year, didn’t practice and almost certainly will not play.
Running back Darren McFadden, who got $26 million guaranteed, watched practice with his right foot in a boot because of turf toe. Coach Lane Kiffin said he believed that McFadden could have played if there were a game Wednesday, but it’s better in these cases to withhold judgment until he actually practices.
Left tackle Kwame Harris, signed during free agency to be the Raiders left tackle, missed practice with a knee injury after being inactive against the Chiefs. He’s probably 50-50 at best to face Buffalo.
Raiders wide receiver Javon Walker couldn’t complete practice because of his hamstring injury and his status remains in doubt _ as it has all season. Walker got $11 millon to sign, has a $1 million salary and may need to rally to receive his $5 million roster bonus in March.
– Kelly faced the music and spoke to the media regarding his arrest, although his sense of remorse didn’t overwhelm anyone. He had been out with some teammates and was driven back to his car, said he expected a driver, and when there wasn’t one, opted to drive anyway.
Kelly said he “probably” made the wrong decision and “severely doubts” it will happen again.
His message from coach Lane Kiffin?
“He was like, `You can’t take that risk. Don’t even do it.’ He understood,” Kelly said. “What you do in your off time you do, but understand teh risk your’ taking. It was a dumb decision on my own. If I could go back I would have probably just left my car at the hotel and got it the next day.”
– Whatever partying Kelly did wasn’t furnished by the team. There is no alcohol served on charter flights.
–Fargas said it seemed strange to be involved in so many violent collisions in between the hash marks only to be injured running by himself along the sidelines.
“Playing this week isn’t likely, but I’m not going to put a time or date on it,” Fargas said. “I’ll be back as soon as possible.”
– Editorial comment _ what the heck was Fargas doing split wide right in a passing formation anyway? He has the worst hands of anyone in the Oakland backfield. Even more ridiculous was that JaMarcus Russell saw Fargas had one-on-one coverage (you think?) and waved him downfield, hoping for a big play.
– The guess here, and it’s only a guess, is Fargas misses the Buffalo and San Diego games, then uses the bye week to rest up before being ready to go again.
– Turf toe can be a lingering issue, so the Raiders will be careful with McFadden. If he experiences pain against the Bills, Michael Bush could be in for 25-plus carries if the game is in doubt, because the remaining two running backs are block-and-catch fullbacks Justin Griffith and Luke Lawton.
“All the nervousness is gone now,” Bush said. “Last year, I was like, ‘man am I not doing something right or what was it?’ Now they throw the whole playbook at you. As long as I stay prepared and
keep going as I’m coached I’ll be fine.”
– If it were determined McFadden’s condition is serious enough to put him in doubt, Louis Rankin would probably be brought up from the practice squad and the Raiders would have to cut a player to make room.
– Walker’s inability to finish practice continues a trend in which the lead receiver has been unable for one reason for another to step up and assume his role. When asking if his continued absence has hurt, Kiffin was frank.
“Yeah, it has. Here’s the guy who was supposed to be the No. 1 receiver when he comes in,” Kiffin said. “Unfortunately he’s had some issues and he’s had the injuries, and here we go again.
“We’re warming up for the game Sunday hoping that he would get to play. He didn’t feel very good then. Today, he comes out, we talked bout it being a big week for him. He played well against Buffalo last year at the start of the year (9 catches, 119 yards).
“I started talking to him yesterday about it, about a big week, this team needs you, then unfortunately, halfway through practice, he can’t go anymore.”
– Kiffin said he has not been told he’s on the verge of being fired, nor has he been told the stories regarding his job status are incorrect.
“It’s someone else’s decision to make. We’ll just keep plugging along until we hear different,” Kiffin said. “The only thing that I don’t like is for our players, they have to deal with this and it’s a distraction. It shows a lot about our group because if you had some different guys, they could take advantage of the situation, all the stuff in the media and the paper, all the reports from our front office that there’s going to be a firing yesterday and today, all that stuff.
“They could take advantage of that situation. ‘We’re not listening to you. We’ve been told, according to the paper, from our front office, that you’re being fired. It’s just a matter of when.’ So, it shows a lot about our guys.”
– Former Dallas Cowboys Jimmy Johnson, who in the past has been a Davis supporter and confidant, was less than complimentary when talking about the Raiders when talking with Fox sports.
“I don’t know that there’s a lot of people who would want to work there. It’s a mess and it’s been a mess for quite some time,” Johnson said. “I just don’t know how anybody functions in that type of atmosphere. They do have some good young players and they showed that this past Sunday. I think eventually this team will be one to be dealt with but as far as being a coach there, being an assistant coach, being someone in administration, it really is a mess. I don’t know that there’s going to be a whole lot of people who would want to work there to be honest with you.”
Chances are Norv Turner gave his old boss in Dallas a less than stellar assessement of what’s going on in Oakland.
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September 17th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Javon Walker is killing me
September 17th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Hopefully comments like Jimmy Johnson’s are resonating with Al Davis. Leave Kiffin alone and give him the support he needs to do the job
September 17th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
man fahq walker.
i hope the no-names we have on the WR squad step up and show this piece of schit what a real receiver looks like.
September 17th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
1. Keep Kiffin
2. Cut Walker
3. Rest McFadden
4. Run the crap out of Bush
5. Open up the playbook just a little bit more for JMac
6. Success.
September 17th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
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September 17th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Before anyone even considers faulting the coaches, the “Admin crew” should learn to pay players who show up.
September 17th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Severe you still in here, you get my message? I got two words for you: Art Shell.
September 17th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
and they talked walker out of retirement DOH
September 17th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Al did Snake. Good move, huh?
September 17th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
walker is PATHETIC….what a joke of a reciever. he had better break 1000 yds to gain my respect back….
September 17th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
get off your ass javon, or just go home!
September 17th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
DMC will go me thinks but look for the pass. Walker’s needs to be on point.
September 17th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
This kills me…..it’s hard enough to win in this league and AL’s GOING TO FREAKING FIRE KIFFIN??? WTF???? From a fans point of view it seems like he does not have the best interest of the “team” in mind, he has the best interest of “Al Davis” in mind. It’s not fair to all the loyal fans and season ticket holders who show up, pay their hard earned $$ and support this struggling team. I dont think it should be this hard to be a freaking Raiders fan. I love the Raiders, and without AL their would be no Raiders, but this turmoil is killing me. Al, you didn’t fire Kiffin in January, so let him see what he can do since your on the hook for this year anyways. As fans we don’t care if you’re involved in game planning etc…we just want to win. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop the madness.
One Broken Down Raiders Fan
September 17th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
All the drama and stupid f’n signings. Al Davis f’n brain is oatmeal. Gawddam muthaf’n senile ole bizznitch.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Excerpt from article distributed by the Raiders PR department at press conference:
“The Raiders screw up a play and take themselves out of the red zone. Cue Camera 1, the shot of a frail-looking Al sitting up in a press box with those watery eyes. Anarchy in the locker-room? That must be Al’s doing, a result of the man walking around undercutting the coaches in charge with his sense that he knows better than any of them how to run a game.”
not a real flattering article to bring to the attention of the local media.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
They’re all Al Davis flunkies, and incompetent.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
S&BinDC…post #4
Good formula for success. Walker is a total bust, a Davis pick, a Davis talking him out of retirement and refusing to take his signing bonus. Davis is not senile, he’s insane.
Ya, for any chance against the Bills, Kiffin, if still our coach, will need to open up the passing game, and Russell and his receivers we will have to produce.
All you Dizk Heads, who still back you’re hero of the pass Al Davis, just listen to some of the words from Jimmy Johnson and take heed: “As far as being a coach there, being an assistant coach, (even) being someone in administration, it really is a mess!”
As Red said in the Shawshank redemption, as he was about to break his parole: “Get busy living or get busy dying,”
that the God Dazz truth.” Which translates to: “Until Davis dies or falls into a long Coma, we’re not going anywhere.” I don’t want Davis to die, he’s done so much for the Raiders and we have a lot to be thankful for, but his time has passed and he needs to turn the team over to someone? His son Mark, John Madden, someone, and may the first order of business be: Fire Ryan.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Javon Walker is the perfect example of a player that needs a coach with control/significant input into the roster. Javon Walker is the perfect example of a player that needs someone in his face day after day. Javon Walker is the type of player that is hoping a Lane Kiffin gets fired and is replaced by a “Players Coach”
Why didn’t we try to sign Bernard Berrien….
September 17th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
The Raiders organization should come out and….
1) Support Kiffin.
2) Fire Kiffin.
This “days of our lives.” fiasco is getting sick for EVERYONE that has ANYTHING to do with the Raiders.
Al if Jimmy Johnson is bashing you it’s time to listen old man, Take your pills and snap out of it. You are becoming the laughing stock of the NFL, even to your allies.
This does no one ANY good by keeping silent, it’s time to act like a professional organization…..
September 17th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Yeah, it’s a problem, the Raider coaches never have any authority. A lot of players will take advantage. Not a committment to excellence by any means.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
john madden would turn this team into a winner for sure. all the players would want to be here.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Al figures he’s the only thing the team needs. He don’t need no stinkin coaches.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
We should activate Louis Rankin, don’t take any chances, just cut Davis’s pet doggy, Sam Williams.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
I’m afraid eve John Madden would want nothing to do with our laughable organization these days.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
*even*
September 17th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
I don’t know why Al finds it necessary to even have a head coach. Just trot John Herrera out there with a headphone and a clipboard.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
if al davis wasnt involved he would…..
September 17th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Al Davis MUST be crazy. How many seasons does he figure he has left to piss away?
September 17th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Why not just have old senile Al be the coach up in the press booth, it’s not like any legit coach will ever want to come here now anyway.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Jerry, thanks for you’re update, but don’t take so long to post, especially now, with all this madness flying around and all of us Raiders fans sitting in limbo. You’re going to have to put in some overtime. Just send Al Davis the bill. If he can pay all this money to some of these non-producers, he can surely pay for your overtime.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Hell the only way to get a pee wee coach to sign on to this b.s. is to gove him 100 million a year and 35 million signing bonus.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Fargas going deep? I love Jerry’s take. When I saw it, I was ike, “who’s THAT? Looks kinda like fargas but it couldn’t be.”
Justin saw the ball heading his way and his whole body must’ve seized up.
He still looked better than Walker. Did he retire? Seems like he did.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
No, he’s needs a HC only to sheild him from any bad performances. HE WILL NOT TAKE ANY DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY!
September 17th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
The reason Al talked Javon into staying is so he would’nt look bad by signing him in the first place.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
“The Raiders screw up a play and take themselves out of the red zone. Cue Camera 1, the shot of a frail-looking Al sitting up in a press box with those watery eyes. Anarchy in the locker-room? That must be Al’s doing, a result of the man walking around undercutting the coaches in charge with his sense that he knows better than any of them how to run a game.”
He’s been doing it a while and built some serious Championship teams.
I think he got old.
He doesn’t realize the mentality of some of todays players.
They will just take the money and run.
Honor and pride or an afront to your manhood don’t mean anything to some.
Davis is paying players what he thinks they’d be worth if they perform, like he did with Plunkett and others.
You can’t take other teams cast offs and give them a chance to redeem themselves because too many of these guys are playing for the pay not for love or immortality.
Lets hope these guys catch a fire against a good Buffalo team and acquire a taste for winning.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
#35, exactly!
September 17th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
#36
Yeah Al Davis and the Raiders were never the same after Free Agency in 1989
September 17th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
I’d like to see if Gerard Warren can have another good game in a row.
Cardio is not good and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a little of the “K gun” tribute by running a little hurry up.
On the other side, Terrance McGee did not participate in practice today.
If Oakland can get Walker up and contributing it could open up Miller.
Teams in our first 2 games played alot more man and took him away.
If Walker can play and get hot and move the chains 1st half…
September 17th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
I bet javon just doesnt feel like playing or trying but knows he can get paid if he pretends he is getting better.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Get Schilens, Lelea, and Higgins ready to play. Move Curry back in the depth chart until he proves he can be counted on to catch the ball. If Walker can’t get over his injury then don’t keep agrevating it by trying to practice before it is healed. Activate Watkins. He at least did a good job holding on to the ball in camp and preseason. De-activate Walker on game day until he is healthy, then if he can prove he is a number one, great.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Walker’s orbital bone holding him out.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
43 LOL
September 17th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I HATE JAVON WALKER!!!
AL You are a close second!
Walker, I will pay you to go back to Las Vegas.
Al, look at your past coaches who you let go: Rat Shanahan -Super Bowl winner, Chuckie Gruden – Super Bowl winner, Acne Turner – AFC Championship participant. Don’t let go of another coach who has so much promise!
September 17th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Behind the Shield with Jeanette Thompson just turned on. Short interview with Kiffin, no talk about him being fired, just some questions on the Bills’ game plan for this Sunday.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
f@&k the soap operas, happy 81st to George Blanda.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
PFT’s lil brother CFT just posted that Kiffin to Syracuse is highly unlikely because Al Davis is an alum and a big dollar contributer.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Walker got here and found out he didn’t like Kiffin. Kiffin expected too much from him. Being a baby, just like Porter, Walker decided he would just retire.
Al could not have this. This was the last straw. Walker was Al’s prize WR to bring back the deep ball with Russell. How dare Kiffin try to run him off in an attempt to show him(Davis) up.
Al told Walker to just hang out and wait. As soon as Kiffin started losing, he would be gone. Al just needed a reason to fire him and NOT PAY his contract, just like he did with Shanahan.
Now, Walker is just hangin on the sidelines, as ordered by the BOSS. Just tell Kiffin you can’t go. What can he do? He has no control over players.
As soon as Kiffin is fired and Lofton takes over, Walker will be ready to go. Then the Raiders will be right back to the power run with the deep drop, long ball offense that Al Davis has always loved.
Joe Bugle, Mike White, Norv Turner, Art Shell (Twice), and now Lofton. The offensive philosophy remains the same. Power run to set up the deep pass. Just the way Al likes it.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
If Javon Walker does not want to play, we don’t need him. Why didn’t Davis let Javon Go? Al Davis had to keep his Walker….sorry, couldn’t resist. I am really conserned about my Raiders, but I hope that everything will be alright.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Nation Collective, you are a total tool. I’m imagining a large UFC fan in diapers eating hot pockets in the bathtub. Yeah, you’re that big a douche.
You have nothing better to do on a beautiful Wednesday night than post lame links on a football blog? Obviously you have no friends and have never had the company of a woman.
Seriously, leave those of us who are coming here for information alone and go to the Lord of the Rings fansite. I’m sure you’ll find plenty of lonely, overweight retards there to play with.
Unbelievable.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Lane will be the hc for the rest of the year. Al jusy wanted him to shut his trap: mission accomplished.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Raiderkoolaid — You are right. Its sort of time to fish or cut bait…and Javon Walker needs to be cut. Let’s go with guys we got and develop them the best we can. Javon is useless as long as he won’t practice and play. Its amazing that Javon is so irresponsible and careless…Guess Al Davis didn’t do much of a background check.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Or even “concerned”…how ’bout that?
September 17th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
post # 32
NOW?
2 words – Art Shell!
Its been awhile since the raiders HC job was thought of as desirable. We all went through this before with Chucky… string of misfits after – Callahan, Norv and Art w/ the king of the B & B as our OC. Sure ya might argue Norv is a great OC – but look what he did to a good Chargers team – he Norved em.
It pisses me off to no end that the Raiders front office wont end this speculation about Kiff’s job security! It really proves that Al has no interest in winning, let alone his commitment to excellence. Its just his way – or the highway!
Tune in next week for another exciting episode of…
WHEN WILL AD DIE?!?!?
September 17th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
#38
KK, so true.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Can anyone tell us exactly WHO said Kiff was to be fired? Except two unnamed sources?
Is this “story” possibly a blog- and media-spurred frenzy, that somehow grew legs, and then started running?
Kiffin knew his responsibilities when he signed on the dotted-line. He’s done a pretty good job of things so far. Now, he needs to build a few wins into his program, and the accolades will come.
He’s got support, but he still hasn’t gotten the team’s players “rallied” behind him. At least they haven’t turned on him — a very good sign. Hopefully they all rally for a common cause…winning as a cohesive unit, with an “us-vs-them” mentality. Like, “Yeah, we’re the Raiders. So??”
No excuses — everyone held to the same standard…and winning is that standard. That could actually happen again, you know. It could happen starting this week. Imagine…a “surprise” victory in Buffalo, and then getting to face the sputtering Chargers before the Bye Week, in Oakland. Talk about incentive at home!
As it should be — if Kiffin wins, he’s in. Time for the other half of his offense to come alive, and for Kiff to show the NFL he’s more than a 3-horse pony. His QB project, JaMarcus, needs to start taking-charge on the field…and Kiffin needs to stay in charge of his entire team (even on the defensive side), as he continues his own growth.
Keep winning, Lane, and everything’ll be alright.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
K-Rock — And those 7 step drops will be happening behind our tender pass blocking tackles….
September 17th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
A huge problem for the passing game is the
O-line. They need Zack to stay back and block even though he is Jmac’s most productive receiver
September 17th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
I never….They need to spread out the field…If they did that, Zach could line up outside on a smaller backer and not have that problem.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Decoys my man. What good is an 8 man front with 4 wide?
September 17th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Raider Kool aid, I agree with you about benching Curry and playing Lelie, Schillens, Watkins, and JLH. Lane needs players that he can count on, and Jamarcus should try to figure out who he has a chemistry with. I think Schillens is good for about 3-4 catches a game. JLh is a threat with the ball in his hands. I would throw him a screen or two, and let him come around as a pitch open on a couple of plays maybe while Dmac is in the wild hog.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
NC
Wow, that was very clever. Take a statement of mine and come up with a pathetic retort. Wow. Did you learn that kind of wit at Burger King? You know, when the customer says “Make mine a small?” and you confidently say “Would you like to upgrade that to a King Size?”
I respect that you’ve managed to stay in a long term relationship, but committed beastiality is currently frowned on in civilized culture. I’m not sure if you were aware of that.
Anyway, if you have anything somewhat logical to contribute to the current state of the Raiders, I’d love to hear it. Otherwise, please keep your clicker off You Tube links and go take care of your poor wife. I’m sure her teets needs a good milking.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Damn you mods….
September 17th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Al did a great job talking Javon out of retirement. Now he’s on the roster and acting like he’s retired.
A great job by the senile “boss of bosses” signing a turd to big $$. Maybee he should have lent Tommy Kelly his Rascal to get home….
September 17th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Zach miller will need to assist Mario Henderson, and we are a run team, so why would we want to go away from that when it actually works.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Hey newbie,
I havve said what I needed to about the tyrant. If you were not in here for that, thats your bad.
Oh and I milked your mom this morning. Plenty of silly cone for the week!
So if you are done….
September 17th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Any discussion about what was once our un-disputed strength of the team — the running game? If McFadden is still hurting this weekend, what depth we had just a few days ago is gone. No depth, with a kid coming back from a broken leg having to carry the load.
Here’s to ya, Michael Bush!
September 17th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Dick V,
Remember what the Tyrant used to say before he got Al’s Heimers?
“We don’t take what the defense gives us, we take what we want”
So why line up in max protect when you force them to play your game. If they decide to commit to pressure, audible and go for the quick pass or a screen. Peyton Manning does this very well, don’t you think?
September 17th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Hayes,
What about Rankin…..He reminds me of Sproles….
September 17th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
I think i finally got an ulcer with this team. Idiot AD wants to fire kiffen but keep Ryan? The only reason we won last week was that we played against a team that is worse then us. Kelly & Sands disappeared again. They are the worse pathetic lineman in th nfl.Get rid of these two idiots. Burgess finally showed up. Very disappointed in him this yr. He was horrible against Denver and he was playing one on one. He no longer has it.We need a complete new D-LINE. It pisses me off that we are going to keep Kelly & Sands all yr and next yr. We will continue to suck until we get rid of these guys and bring in some new talent. Walker is a big bust. Bring in Joe Horn if he is still available or any other receiver that wants a chance. I’m sure they will be better then what we got. Curry is horrible. Lelie is the only one that looks good. We won’t win another game until we play against the KC.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
#59
In theory that’s true, but the reality is the O-line doesn’t provide enough QB protection without the help of Griffith and Miller.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Look at some point, the young man at qb is going to have to grow up. Whether he is in the Kiffin system, or Lofton, or Rathman, or, oh god its too much……he is going to have to put on the big boy hat that he used to wear at LSU and play football. Stop thinking and let the game happen. All of this talk about the stone handed recievers is getting old. These guys are paid an nfl salary to play the position, but if you do not engage them in the flow of the game, the end up lame duck like moss. We see where that got us.
So yes, you put the emphesis on running all of the time, great, but eventually teams smell the vanilla and attack it. Then what. It is too late and your skrewed!
September 17th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
The word is that Corey Williams is already a bust in Cleveland, and the coaches are pissed that Savage traded away Leigh Bodden even though, Shaun Rodgers has been a “beast” so far.
Phil Savage basically put the coaching staff on notice that they need to win now.
Brad Childress has already pulled the plug on the Tavarias Jackson experiment two weeks into the season.
The Rams gm annouced to the press that changes may be coming soon if they don’t turn things around quickly.
Rod Marenelli has to feel stupid that hepaid Cory Redding Tommy Kelly money and Redding is a bust as a 3technique: maranelli did not think too highly of Rodgers who Crennel saya is a “beast”. maranelli is in year 3 and Detroit sucks: you know what they are going to say when Millen fires him ” who can win in Detroit”, and who would want that job.
In light of Redding and Corey Williams already being proclaimed busts by the regimes that gave them the money: same money Kelly got for basically the same production… I feel like Kelly might end up being a good signing from what i have seen so far.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
It worked last week. Run until they prove they can stop it. Occasionally use the play action IF the running game is working. Control the time of possession and win the game. Simple.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Hey Dick,
You notice that more and more teams are in turmoil these days….I heard the term today, win now…..there is no time anymore for anyone to do anything…..Hell when you really crunch the numbers, Kiffin has only coached for 18 games now. That’s nothing compared to some of the coaches out there. How can he establish anything in that short a period of time, with asmany young players as there are?
I just don’t see it!
September 17th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
The only hope we have for Sunday is a pass game, predicated on JR hitting Miller and our RBs out of the backfield. We have to establish the run, but that alone won’t be enough – must be diversified to win. And please Ryan – continue the blitz and give everyone a chance to get some! Gotta see our safeties get a sack or two.
Oh yeah, and NC – I know you just discovered this site, so I hope you some fun with your momma jokes. Eventually more will be expected or you’ll be driven out to the Charger blog.
Anyway, a free pass is extended to our rookies brothers. Don’t worry, you all get a hard time in the beginning. Please don’t let us down.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Mo…..Many aliasis man…..The one you see is recent….but been here for a few years now…..
September 17th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Put it like this, you leave the wife out and I leave the MOM out…….
Come on Davis……
September 17th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
It’s all good brah, just cut the crappy links. Let’s get down to the real business of keeping the Nation on top.
One day we could be sharing whiskeys at Clancy’s in Seal Beach.
One love
September 17th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
The mods cut them out. They’re probably gonna cut links out all together…..Damn it!
September 17th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Al also says we have a commitment to excellence.
Berand Berrian dropped a few passes already in Minnesota, and he never sniffed a 1000 yards in the NFl, but he got 16 milly in g’s
Dante Stallworth has been injured over in Cleveland not contributong though getting 10 milly in g’s
Jerry Porter gt 10 milly in g’s and has yet to contribute
Madeu Williams got 16 milly in g’s and he is hurt might not play this year at safety for the vikes.
I can say with confidence that free agency is a bigger crap shoot then the draft after the first 10 picks; however, if you have to make some moves: I think signing Javon over berrian, porter, and stallworth, and Kelly overCorey williams, kris jenkins, and Gibril over Madeu were better moves. no telling who willl work out, but I am just pointing out that there is a market that decides what these players get, and Al has to pay more being in Cali to get these guys. I would rather see the Raiders get a gm, keep kiffin, and build through the draft, but I do not own the team.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Damn Jim…..Want a link of his pic?
Just Kidding Just Kidding…….
Or am I?
September 17th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Soon Dick V. Soon…….
By the way, Wilson is a stud and this run d is better for having him.
I am gonna check the run d stats.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Chaos this the nfl…. you already know what that stands for ….
September 17th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
#13 in rushing defense.
#1 in rushing offense..
Thats good so far.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
I read in this blog alot about you all saying Davis wants to fire Kiffin,..I see it on bspn also,..last year bspn even reported Ryan got fired. The local writers claim Kiffin is about to be fired. Have any of you heard Davis say he was firing Kiffin? Has Kiffin said he was being fired? Some people like the posters in here believe everything thear read in blogs, newspapers,..bspn,…I think you are all victims of a Davis/Kiffin hoax…you are all being fooled. Not me.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
In the hole in passing offense…obviously and 21 in passing defense. Tahts all due to the donks.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
We have to get Curry going soon. Time is running out on giving this guy too many more chances. If he continues to drop passes left and right, then we need to put Lelie in more. He has been the only receiver I’ve seen catch w/ his friggin hands instead of letting the ball hit him! And to think we have Lofton as our WR coach!
September 17th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Otto,
Thats because you are in the press box……right next to the tyrant!
September 17th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Why would I want a pic?…I have met Jerry, a few times…he sees these athletes out in town in very expensive cars,…hot babes,…big houses,..hes beyond jealous,..it consumes him….eating him alive.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
We need to get better in the take away dept. We have 2 int’s. Thats it.
Can’t afford that the way our offense is playing.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
I’m going to put on a tracksuit and run up and down in front of Al’s house. Maybe he’ll throw a few million my way next year? Heck I’d sign for a few hundred thousand. Then I could be the “1# receiver” and stand around on the sidelines all year.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Jim….I was kidding bro…..Nevermind….over the head…..
September 17th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
I actually wanted Oakland to draft Trent Edwards,..hes going to be real good for a long time,…and would have saved about 50 million bucks.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Did you know that Mc Fadden has 210 yards on 30 carries already. Thats frekin rediculous.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
And yes Chaos, Im on Norco again,..to answer your next question…they wouldnt let me on Grants show yesterday.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Otto, it’s not about people reading the blogs, newspapers, or bspn, people can read between the lines themselves and figure out there’s a problem, no one needs to be a Fly on the roof at Raider Headquarters to figure out there are issues here with Al and Kiffin. We get our news from other sources and we piece them together like we do any other news. If you’re going to ask people if they believe this story is true, then people can ask you if you believe ANY story you ever hear is true, and sports news is no different. So on that note, who are we kidding here?
September 17th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Ok Rainman, but I will believe the “story” when hes fired, I wont cry about in hourly in a blog. Bspn reported Ryan was fired last year, I saw him on the sidelines last sunday. You keep reading between the lines Rainman, I will keep going with the facts.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
There are so many suckers out there that simply want to see a train weck that you can never trust anything until it’s a fact or Davis is quoted.
It might be true and it might be someone’s wish. And I’m not talking about a writer. Use your imagination. There are people in that front office that hate Kiffin and I’m talking about people that can force issues.
I wil admit one thing Bruce Allen did a good job of squelshing a lot of this crap. And some of those people forced him out (not Davis)
September 17th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Can you say MBush to the rescue. Theyneed to get him up to speed quick. He can single handedly beat Buffalo.
Kiffin can ue DMC as a decoy or get him on the perimeter instead of running him between the tackles.
Get DMC about 15 touches should be enough and start getting the ball to the WR’s Schelins, Curry and Watkins and JLH. Not to mention ZMiller must be a factor if we’re going to win this game.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Bring it on Priest, who wanted Allen out?….if youre referring to Trask, no way, shes still upset Bruce and Jon are gone.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Whats he even doing on the field with DMAC & Bush on the roster ?
– Editorial comment _ what the heck was Fargas doing split wide right in a passing formation anyway? He has the worst hands of anyone in the Oakland backfield. Even more ridiculous was that JaMarcus Russell saw Fargas had one-on-one coverage (you think?) and waved him downfield, hoping for a big play.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
JL use your own deductive reasoning. The biggest culprit is not here anymore others you may or may not know.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Trent Edwards had not proven anything. You wanted the Raiders to draft him off of what… the whim of adying man that has strong ties to Stanfford.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Single handedly beat Buffalo ?
BHP, you are getting further & further into a deep fog.
WAKEUP DING A LING!
Blackholepriest Says:
September 17th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Can you say MBush to the rescue. Theyneed to get him up to speed quick. He can single handedly beat Buffalo.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Oh give me a break,..if you are referring to Lombardi,..thats a laugh,..he was powerless and he actually tried to go to Tampa with Bruce.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
BHP, you have finally overtaken your good lil buddy OakGlenn in the category of “ridiculous comments”…..period
Jerry get this clown a prize.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
another bad free agent signing was the colts making Bob Sanders the highest paid safety in the league: he is injury prone and has missed at least 4 games for the past 3 -4 years. he looks great when healthy but he is too small to hold up: sort of like trent edwards
September 17th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
LMAO @ not Davis
# Blackholepriest Says:
September 17th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
I wil admit one thing Bruce Allen did a good job of squelshing a lot of this crap. And some of those people forced him out (not Davis)
September 17th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Bryant Johnson is doing a nice job in SF. He WOULD be our #1 WR in this horrific group we have.
AL I TOLD YOU SIGN BRYANT JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!!
September 17th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Mista thats true,..Davis tried hard to keep Bruce here,..even the press conference both stated that,..and Davis said in that press conference he hopes Bruces “comes home” soon.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Ok, I feel sorry for the players, too. But what about us fans??? Does ANYBODY feel sorry for US??? We have to deal with this crap week in and week out, year in year out. WE’RE PAYING THE FRICKING BILL$ for crying out loud!! The money comes from US!!
September 17th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Powerless?? I think not. maybe you should give it more thought.
IMO MBush under these circumstances for a few games is the perfect HB, he’s a complete back and can take the pounding.
Until Fargas and DMC are up to speed again he’s the perfect HB to turn to.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Our WR group is garbage. Tim Brown is the only quality WR AL has drafted in 20 years!
20 years!!!
Not a problem drafting a good punter or a half a$$ed kicker but WR is such a FK’n problem, why ?
September 17th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
OTTO-YO- MIND, if you have all the facts then prove that Ryan wasn’t fired and re-hired. Where’s your proof Mr. Fact Finder? Dude, you are a clown.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
What a travesty. Javon is such a loser. not even sniffed a reception yet.
hey, is anyone taking Buffalo in their suicide pool???
September 17th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Jim Lofton – yeah, I’m with you on Edwards – I thought we could swing Calvin Johnson and get Edwards – a perfect WCO QB – smart, mobile, good arm – good value in the second round too – kill two birds with one stone – franchise WR and franchise QB – thrown in McFadden this year and we’d be sick (on paper). But I’m happy with JR – Edwards never won, and if he’d been that great a prospect, he would have been taken in the top 15 (like Cutler jumped up the year before) – but I did like him coming out of college – seemed like a good risk – get the stud WR and take a chance on a 2nd round QB with a lot of potential (highest rated high school QB when he was being recruited).
Moving forward, JR won at a big time level, has a once every 20 years type of arm, and has proven himself to be a very disciplined, likable, committed, and motivated guy – can’t pass that up if you need a QB – Edwards just has more around him as far as WR’s and Olineman. JR will probably be much better – but as for winning now, CJ and DMAC on the same team with a decent QB would be nice…
September 17th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
No way Priest,..Lombardi was Bruces coffee boy,…Davis tried to keep Bruce but Bruce wanted to go work with Jon,…so if thats who you think got Bruce to leave youre dead wrong,..nobody forced him, he basically left a year after Jon because he was always year to year in a contract,…he would have left with Jon but couldnt.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
#110
Bruce Allen left on his own free will nobody forced him out.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Whatever jedi,..I havent heard Cal Johnsons name once yet on espn, only time they mention him is when they talk about his bad back,.I never wanted him…or Russell….all I wanted was a trade down but nobody would take the top pick.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Thats my point mista.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Nobody has weight in that organization but AL.
When people leave they either get fired or throw their hands up and bounce on their own. Bruce was probably at a point he couldn’t deal with crazy AL any longer.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
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September 17th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Well of course thats it mista…and thats a bummer,..Jon and Bruce should still both be here,..likely 2 rings would have been had also,…when Jon left so did the good times,..I need another Norco now dammit.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
calvin just got two td’s against green bay
September 17th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
You’re crazy JL, it’s true Bruce had Davis’s ear but Lombardi also had some powerful allies. I know for a fact. Not only that he was a very good personnel man, whom Big Al trusted. If you think he had no power then there really is no point discussing this because the power struggle between he and Allen was famous in the halls on Harbor Bay Parkway.
Gruden desparately needed Allen and persuaded him to join him. However Mr Davis should never have let him go.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Trent edwards would have a hard time beating out Andrew Walter all things being eqaul.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Good for him,..was that after they were down by 21 and GB laid off?
September 17th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Sista, how in the hell would you now?? sit down and shutup.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
McCown beat out Walter..
In some other organization I would agree A Walter would likely beat out T Edwards.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Priest you havent convinced me,…You think youre more hip then me on whats goin down at hq?…I doubt it,..true I lost my main source there but I still email daily with 3 others there who arent janitors…Lombardi had zero to do with Bruce leaving,…he really enjoyed the team he and Jon were,..when Jon left, traded for nothing, Bruce wanted to leave that day also,..but couldnt, he worked that one year contract and left to work with Jon,…you know squat Priest.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
you said you hadn’t heard from Cj. i was just pointing out you don’t apparently hear much
September 17th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Tell you what I wish would happen,..Davis retires,..Trask takes over because she will whether we want her to or not,..then she brings back Bruce and Jon,..the good times return…but I wont hold my breath.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Im already sitting, ding a ling
September 17th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
What I said was I havent heard him mentioned on espn, and I watch alot,…he would have been a lousy number one pick.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
you should start watching the nfl network: i see your problem already
September 17th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Nah,..dont like Eisen…giggling fairy host,…cant watch that show….by the way the Raiders only playing one reg game in the dirt this year,…infield gone by Charger game,..bfd yes I agree.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
your right we should have drafted trent no. 1 overall.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Uh huh! and you know it all right?? Well I know for a fact that Bruce didn’t want to leave until he lost the power struggle.
In fact if it were up to him he’d still be there. B4 that he basically worked for the league if I’m not mistaken. Bruce loved it there. He was the spokesman for the organization.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Trent No 1 overall Dick V? you’re obviously kidding right?
September 17th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 17th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Bryant Johnson is doing a nice job in SF. He WOULD be our #1 WR in this horrific group we have.
AL I TOLD YOU SIGN BRYANT JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!!
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I totaly agree with that, Johnson was the 3rd WR behind Boldin and Fitzgerald and he still made some plays… that’s pretty hard to do!
Walker should be kept, who knows if he can bounce back and if not, he should be kept as an evidence, of what Davis does wrong here!
If Fargas and DMAC are out for sunday, we need to throw… Bush can’t carry the load and make big plays just like DMAC and huggybear do. It all depends on the Defense… if they don’t perform and force some Turnovers we lose!
I meantioned it many times before: Trade our 1st round pick for Anquan Boldin, he’s the real deal.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
I’ll take Bruce back anyday, Gruden hell no.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Ya Priest,…lost a power struggle to whom?….Lombardi?..the guy who was locked out of draft war rooms?…the guy who had Mike Taylor on his butt every minute?…thats your boy?…forget it man, Lombardi never had anything to say there and is now unemployed…he consistantly badmouths the Raiders,…hes the power struggle winner?…ok, sure Priest.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Ok Priest,..but “Hell no” is what Gruden would say if he was asked to come back.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
You really don’t have a clue JL, you’re talking just to be talking. He was the director of player personnel, He was as close to the GM as you can get.
this is stupid …….adios!
September 17th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
GOOD, because no one would ask.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Director of player personnel?…In alameda that means he gets the coffee.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
yeah yeah yeah………..freakin clueless.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Im not going to allow you or anyone else ruin my Norco high,..goodnight.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Hey JL and BHP, how about quit arguing, and educate the rest of us that aren’t privy to the inner workings of the Raiders? What do you know about what has happened, and what is currently being said?
September 17th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
bhp yeah it was a joke: a off hand shot at Jimmy. Jamarcus was the right pick. He has shown poise, patience, and seems to be taking to the coaches well.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Let me ask something else… If you have some inside information, please enlighten the rest of us regarding the Kiffin situation. What has really transpired?
September 17th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Crickets…..
September 17th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
BHP,
Like I have told you before Jaarcus is on the right path. He is making good reads, checking down or throwing the ball away when nothing is there: i think he has taken two sacks and has not thrown an int yet. He isn’t going to be just a game manager because he does have the biggest cannon around, so seeing him develop into an effective game manager is exciting to me because i know that as soon as we have some players develop around him and dmac, it will be very special: who knows what a year will bring with the development of Mario Henderson, JAMES marten, Chaz schillens, Johnny lee higgins, and Arman Shields.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
Al told Lane to watch his mouth, and Lane said f u old man fire me…until then i am speaking my mind. Al got pissed and now has got that youngster thinking it is real now.
Damn all that is without knowing one single person who llives or works on Alameda.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
The Raiders need Javon Walker back.
http://www.examiner.com/x-514-Oakland-Raiders-Examiner
September 17th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Pat i hope your not pimpin your own story on this blog.
September 17th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
I guess BHP and JL don’t really know anything. For the last two years I’ve been asking them to elaborate, and then they just disappear.
Thanks for nuthin’…
September 18th, 2008 at 12:00 am
you know solicitation violates the blogger code of ethics.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:01 am
Evidentially, I wasn’t clear on the mercurial rules of blogging… My bad…
September 18th, 2008 at 12:01 am
If they had a source inside they would be writting their own blogs. We are all just speculating.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:03 am
Both of those guys have claimed that they have inside people for a couple of years. They hint at it, and provide snippits of info, and if pressed, they bail. It’s BS…
September 18th, 2008 at 12:04 am
i was talking to Patrick who posted that examiner link of a story about javon by some dude named Patrick, but i guess he didn’t want to stay here and promote his own ideas…he aint going to make it.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:04 am
Jim Lofton -
Here’s his stats – 2 td’s in two games, two 100 yard games, 18 yard average, etc. etc. on a bad team. CJ is the man.
2008 Detroit Lions 2 13 236 18.2 118.0 47T 2 5 1 8 0
September 18th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Jedi, Jimmy is just high off them pills. You were backing up his point about Trent and he was too sedated to know
September 18th, 2008 at 12:13 am
Huge LOL at the Raiders using a national columnists’ op ed as documentation against Kiffin. Remember, this is the same media no longer to be trusted by the Raiders. Just goes to show how much of a baby Al Davis is. He has all but denounced the press in recent years, yet as soon as someone punches up a column that makes him look good, he’s on for a piggy back ride. Any of you who thought this man had any kind of resolve can now see why so many of us don’t take him seriously for a second.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:15 am
Sac Bee poll:
80% want Kiffin to stay.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:21 am
add one more vote for Lane
September 18th, 2008 at 12:25 am
And before the Davis crowd bashes Sacramento, remember that the Oakland Tribune ran a similar poll back in February that had 90% on Kiffin’s side. In fact, I think the 90% wanted Al Davis to retire. I think the poll was regarding who fans would rather have gone; Davis or Kiffin. 90% said the crazy one should be out.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:27 am
He felt like Brad Pitt???
Did the Head coach of the Oakland Raiders just say he felt like Brad Pitt???
I’m not even going to touch that one.
That is just downright disturbing.
Is it just me or is Lane Kiffin enjoying all the attention a little too much?
Just Win Baby.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Fire Kiffin, I don’t know why I waste the bandwidth, but I’m going to ask you guys this every time. Of the people willing to take the HC job in Oakland, who will do a better job than Kiffin, and how will he do it?
Note to all readers: This question is yet to be answered by people who want Kiffin fired.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:33 am
BBB, #7
Art Shell is a total different situation than Rathman. Art hadn’t coached in over a decade, Rathman has been a coach since ‘97. Art shell won rings in the old school, Rathman won in an offense very similar to the one that we run. Pretty lame argument u make with Shell comparison and you know it.
Many want the org to come out and give kiffin a vote of confidence. Why should they do that??? They are unhappy with kiffins perfomance so they are putting his job in jeopardy much like kiffin did to several players.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:36 am
I don’t know about those first three paragraphs Jerry. What do McFadden’s and Fargas’s injuries have to do with how much money they make? They got their injuries busting thier butt on the field. Kelly made a serious mistake but he’s accepted responsibily for it and how much money he makes has nothing to do with his mistake.
It’s kind of like you’re stretching all of these things to prove that the Raiders are dysfunctional when in fact these things happen to all teams.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:38 am
The Raiders and Al can forget Bruce, Gruden or any other established coach or GM for the future unless Al retires and the whole front office and scout staff is cleared out.
I would like to see that happen, start from scratch and hire someone like Marty for GM that makes a statement and he has a no bull rep, him and Kiffin would make a team I’m willing to bet. However that won’t happen because of Trask and her ilk. If you ask me once Al got feeble, is when the team went to hell. The ability to persuade him instead of him just going out and making the decision himself is what doomed the Raiders. If I had Al’s ear I would convince him to do something radical and not like fire the head coach, that’s what everyone expects him to do, but he won’t because he has just enough stones left of pride and won’t want to appear wrong.
1. Hire significant GM
2. Clean house
3. Hand the reigns over
The best thing he could do for the Raiders.
If he should fire Kiffin then the season is lost and next years too.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:39 am
When the raiders start assuring everyone that lane won’t be fired, look for him to be fired shortly thereafter.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:42 am
Forget THREE paragraphs.Were you sitting on a prickly bush when you wrote this?!
September 18th, 2008 at 12:42 am
EnglandRaider, what Jerry’s critical of is Al spending the kind of money he did on high risk players, be them injury prone or too wild off the field, or both, as is the case with Walker. Do you honestly not understand that?
September 18th, 2008 at 12:45 am
Severe Raider, what’s “brothers united”? Is that the Davis kool aid crowd’s answer to The Collective? Did you guys try to call yourselves “band of brothers” first, and got a warning letter from HBO, or something?
September 18th, 2008 at 12:46 am
Brothers United is a bit sexist too, isn’t it? What about female Davis loyalists? What’s Trask to do? She’s no “brother”. Guess she’ll have to join The Collective.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:48 am
And what do black fans think of “brothers united”? Kind of a head scratcher for them, is it not? Is it really wise for a group of bony white 30-somethings to be walking around East Oakland calling themselves “Brothers United”?
September 18th, 2008 at 12:50 am
boo brothers united …yay collective
September 18th, 2008 at 12:55 am
I heard Marty schotenheimer say on the Sirius blitz the other day he is more likely to jump of the empire state building than to work for Al Davis.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:57 am
Better name: “Brothers Blinded”.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:58 am
England Raider you know Jerry has to write something to feed the most successful blog that Ibabuzz has.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:58 am
Brothers United mascot is a lemming going over a cliff. T shirts out by Friday.
September 18th, 2008 at 1:05 am
where that damn web site for the Collective. It isn’t that damn hard to put up a website. I might have buy stock in Brothers united. I am guiding down expectations for the collective til i see that damn website.
September 18th, 2008 at 2:35 am
Dick V – thanks for the info
getting back to the game v. the bills…bush can handle the load, but we have to have a passing game and we need one of our WR’s to step up. Javon, earn your damn money.
September 18th, 2008 at 2:51 am
Oh, internet tough guy. Keep it up, and I’ll tell your mom. She’s right here.
September 18th, 2008 at 2:58 am
The Al Davis crowd resorting to violence. What a shock. Don’t let them deter you, Collective. Make no mistake, Severeretard’s macho cyber mouth is a shot across the bow at the collective. And don’t let him give you this crap about the “brothers united” being for what’s best for the Raiders. What’s best for the Raiders is Al Davis being out of football operations. Period. Severeretard is not for what’s best for the Raiders. He’s for what’s best for Al Davis, and using this unity b.s. as a guilt trip. Now, we can add cyber tough guy to his resume`. What a loser.
September 18th, 2008 at 3:12 am
Mods keep hating…i gotta tend to ur mom. Be back in the morning.
September 18th, 2008 at 4:55 am
Ifn ya guyz isa thinkin dat Ima funnin wit ya I’z cood sendz ya my resoomay (dat der is frenchie fer da storie uv my time I haz spended on the futball filled). Withn mizter mac an mizter guz hert an all I cood reely tek der plaze. Why I is fastr dan a spedding kork-gun, I ken jumpz hier dan a misery bulfrog, I haz beter mooves dan a henry-j and I’z can tek a hitz beter dan a mac-truk. Ya guyz wood reely likez me on yer teem.
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September 18th, 2008 at 5:29 am
Florida Pete… I think you’re onto something.
We all know that Kiffin poor mouths our WR’s and QB saying that we can’t pass.
What if we busted loose and aired it out against the Bills, pulling an NFL version of the Rope a Dope?
September 18th, 2008 at 5:31 am
LOL @ slender build
September 18th, 2008 at 5:32 am
Walker has missed more Raider practice and game time than Cliff Branch missed in his entire career.
This is getting old.
September 18th, 2008 at 5:37 am
kiffin is an idiot with no loyalty keep him to the end of the season then fire him unless we make the playoffs
September 18th, 2008 at 6:42 am
Scottish Raider..
what does the Scottish Papers say about last nights game?? I know you don’t fancy soccer, but I bet its been a frontpage story =)
September 18th, 2008 at 6:44 am
And don’t label me as a Davis apologist either. The men who you so boldly trash here (Ryan, Kiffin, Davis, Allen, Lombardi, Shell, etc.) have put the time and effort in to earn the responsibilities they’ve had for the Raiders. For better or worse, their role with the team reflects their guts, maturity and talent. SHow some yourself if you want to make a difference. You fruitcakes just want to hold hands in a circle and align your chakras until the team starts winning.
The “collective” members are Raider fans for the same reason that Elton John likes biker bars.
September 18th, 2008 at 6:46 am
hmm I didn’t know that, so Copenhagen was a character or a city in Star Wars!?, well ohh well..
September 18th, 2008 at 6:56 am
If Al keeps wasting money on players that don’t perform he wont have any for the players that deserve to get paid.
September 18th, 2008 at 7:07 am
[...] [Raiders] Raiders WR Javon Walker Can’t Get Through Practices Raiders WR Javon Walker couldnt complete practice on Wednesday because of his hamstring injury and his status remains in doubt. When asked if his continued absence has hurt, caoch Lane Kiffin was frank. "Yeah, it has. Heres the guy who was supposed to be the No. 1 receiver when he comes in," Kiffin said. "Unfortunately hes had some issues and hes had the injuries, and here we go again. Were warming up for the game Sunday hoping that he would get to play. He didnt feel very good then. Today, he comes out, we talked bout it being a big week for him. He played well against Buffalo last year at the start of the year (9 catches, 119 yards). I started talking to him yesterday about it, about a big week, this team needs you, then unfortunately, halfway through practice, he cant go anymore." Walkers inability to finish practice continues a trend in which the lead receiver has been unable for one reason for another to step up and assume his role. Source: Contra Costa Times [...]
September 18th, 2008 at 7:11 am
I hope this whole “coach on the hot seat “is a bad episode of Punked . Then Al and Kiffin pop out from inside AL’s limo at a scheduled Raiders press conference and tell the media you’ve been Raidered.
September 18th, 2008 at 7:17 am
La Milicia Nancy,
Stick to soccer, and other euro-fruit sports (like handball) where men wear dolphin shorts. You know you are just claiming to be a Raider fan in a pathetic attempt to appropriate a masculine persona.
September 18th, 2008 at 7:23 am
209!!!
September 18th, 2008 at 7:25 am
……….At the risk of being redundant,…The results, thus far, have been sadly predictable: Scholarship Caveman Ryan & Co have nothing to fear from ..,(by his OWN admission..), an emasculated head coach…e.g. Adam True’s revelation that our d-backs choose to not wear the white socks over the sanitary socks clearly indicates that the inmates are running the asylum.(Shame on you Nnamdi)…( Al Davis’ excuse is that “the lights are on , but nobody’s home…”); Not to mention the fact that these players are out of touch with reality regarding the present economic climate- that they so cavilierly can blow five grand on a fine…like making it rain- says they are making way to much money..)….Kelly’s alledged comportment aboard a local airline, if true,… is a macrocosm encased in a microcosm….
September 18th, 2008 at 7:36 am
CB/oakglenn..
seems to me, that you know a lot about fruits, or at least your post screams that you have a keen interest in the subject. makes one think, doesn’t it??..
September 18th, 2008 at 7:44 am
This would be a really bad time for Michael Bush to have his first chance at significant action, from his standpoint. Buffalo is extremely tough to run on with Stroud and Posluszny.
September 18th, 2008 at 7:53 am
First off I just want to say that I am not MR, I am simply a long time reader of this blog and the comments. Think of me as an impartial 3rd party observer. I have noticed from my months of reading these comments that there are two individuals that seem to wreak havoc; MR and Oakglenn. Almost all of you hate MR, but few of you mention Oakglenn. I do not understand why Oakglenn does not get the same hate as MR. Yes, I believe MR occasionally posts under different names, but Oakglenn does the same thing but on a much larger scale. Oakglenn and all of his different personas really make this blog hard to swallow. He is mean and spiteful and when he is proven wrong by someone like Mistabrown, he takes the womanly rout of posting under different names.
My point is, Oakglenn is as bad, if not worse, for this blog than is MR. Just because MR takes an anti-Al Davis stance and Oakglenn takes a pro-Al Davis stance does not mean that Oakglenn should get a free pass for his trolling.
Just an opinion; do with it what you will.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Hey Nation Collective, and all of you who are seeking to overthrow the throne, read this, if you haven’t already. It will give you hope…
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/16/SP7G12VAVA.DTL&feed=rss.49ers
September 18th, 2008 at 8:15 am
By Steve Corkran
ALAMEDA — USC coach Pete Carroll is the person who hired Lane Kiffin for his first high-profile position. Naturally, they have remained in contact since Kiffin joined the Raiders in 2007.
Carroll said their phone calls of late have centered on Kiffin remaining focused in the face of outside distractions.
Kiffin is engaged in a power struggle with Raiders managing general partner Al Davis and in danger of being fired.
“I’m continuing to support him to do what he knows how to do,” Carroll said in a conference call. “I don’t know why anyone would want to make this thing so disruptive right now.”
Carroll said part of the allure of coaching in the college ranks is the autonomy that comes with the job. That’s something he learned from coaching stints in the NFL with the New England Patriots and New York Jets.
“It’s really hard to get everybody on the same page,” he said. “It’s hard to support the guy who has to have the support: the head coach.”
That’s not a problem at USC, Carroll said.
“I’m the (general manager), I’m the personnel guy, I’m the academic adviser and I’m the head coach,” he said.
Kiffin said Wednesday that he has no idea what Davis is thinking these days and has not met with him since Bay Area News Group reported Sunday that Davis is prepared to fire Kiffin.
“No, I have not had communication with him over the last two weeks,” Kiffin said in a conference call with Buffalo-area media. “All I know is what people tell me or what’s in the paper; that front office people have informed (reporters) that he’s making a decision, whenever it’s coming. “… As crazy as it sounds, I know as much as (the media).”
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September 18th, 2008 at 8:18 am
We can’t play the Chiefs every week. We ARE going to go 2-15, again. Perhaps the league can step in on some sort of “non-competetiveness” clause. AD and company are still getting rich selling “bangergear” to street criminals, they don’t care. Just keep throwing away millions on athlete after athlete that either never was any good or has no work ethic.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Trojan Fan,
I’ll bet you $1000.00 that we don’t go 2-15.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Kiffin needs to stop using the media for his sounding board. It is just making the situation worse.
Al, writes the checks witht the big #’s and he has a big ego. I mean how many coaches can you fire in a decade.
If things keep up the way they do no one will want to come to the Raiders. To keep them will have to keep leveraging the bank to get them here. Jerry Jones was right when he said management was a mess. It is a mess and Al Davis has been a main part of it.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:24 am
EMraider..
well Newcastle United has a St James Park, recently renewed Ratto forgot to mention that, and the passion for the game in England will alway surpass any other sports passion in USA, and I think thats a sign of mental health on USA’s behalf.. =)
September 18th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Morning NATION!
I’m worried about Lynch that guy is a beast.. We stop him we win! Goon news is langston Walker is starting for da bills
September 18th, 2008 at 8:25 am
LMN,
As much as I rib you about soccer, I would still love to see a soccer match in Europe. Craziness.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:26 am
Oops, my bad. 2-14
September 18th, 2008 at 8:28 am
LNM do they tailgate @ soccer games? Or is that strictly a U.S. thing? I know the set up fights before the game that’s kinda hardcore….
September 18th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Is Javon Walker is still milking that hamstring ? its been almost a month and he can’t go? WTF I’m sure he will be ready for the bye week then come up lame for week 6. It is obvious that he has no confidence and is avoiding playing because he knows he will be exposed as a has been that got one last big payday. BTW Vegas is calling baby Vegas.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Please Fire Kiffin now! Al has been laying low. He’s probably afraid that if he saw him face to face he would fire him. If Lance wanted to remain the coach he would shut the “F” up. He is posturing to the media and is diverting his inadequacies as a head coach on the Rob and Al as the doers of all things bad in the organization. How about you shut up and do your job! You were never hired as the GM. You are not the MGP or owner. Go work for your Daddy or better yet go back to USC. The team will not do any worse if your not here. Greg Knapp has called plays on some successful offenses and can handle that job just fine.
Not to say that Mr. Davis has not made his blunders. Especially, for his over paying of mediocre talent and drafting very poorly since Bruce Allen left. He is grasping a one last title before he leaves this earth and has made some very poor choices. Please Mr. Davis if you do decide the fire the pompous little b#*$^@d, I have but only 1 request….. Hire Rob Ryan as head coach since you will not fire him anyways. The D players like him just fine and maybe its his turn to try.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:31 am
whats up Dakota and LMN
September 18th, 2008 at 8:32 am
Face it, we will not get close to Edwards on Sunday. The Bills have great pass protection and we don’t exactly excel as a pass rushing team. Our secondary might be in for another looooong day. D. Hall better spray himself with fire retardant because the Bills are going to try to burn him all day.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:33 am
PS This is an American Football site. Who cares about soccer.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:33 am
TheDumbestbloggerInAmerica
Are you serious Rob Ryan as a head coach?
Give me some of what your smoking
September 18th, 2008 at 8:37 am
Rumor is is that Al thinks bringing back Tom Flores as HC is the key to SB #4.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Buffalo is feeling pretty cocky right now especially with Team Turmoil coming in Sunday and the Lambs up next. I hope they’re looking past this game as an easy W.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:40 am
# Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2008 at 8:37 am
Rumor is is that Al thinks bringing back Tom Flores as HC is the key to SB #4.
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So will Pappa be the OC?
September 18th, 2008 at 8:41 am
All of the prognosticators are viewing their tea leaves and saying that the Raiders won’t get more than two field goals against Buffalo.
A bit of ball hawking could alter those fortunes (read Marshawn coughs it up). Yes the Buffys are a good team, but I don’t see them as unbeatable.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:45 am
whats up M
I think not only is Buffalo a good team they have beaten two pretty good teams already and one on the road so they are legit.
Are they as explosive as Denver on offense NO but they have great special teams and run the ball real well.
We are going to have to be on our A game and they will have to be looking past us in order for us to win.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:45 am
408..
hmm hard to answer in a short post =)
now, its different from country to country how the culture is..
but essential its mostly men, and most meet at a pub before the game and drink their brains out, then go to the stadium, and sings the rivalry songs and light the flares and stuff =)
most are in factions, supporting the same team, those factions sometimes buds head, and sometimes they join eachother and buds heads with the factions of the other teams..
but at the same time, ordinary people can go to the pub, and go to the game without problems, because well its weird, but essentially it comes down to, if you want trouble you’ll get it, if you just out having a good time, those who wants trouble a let you alone.. they’ll find somebody like them self to see who the biggest gorilla on block is =)
in spain its even more craxy than in England, they are more violent in England, but still Spain is more crazy.. some of the biggest soccer club in spain is in fact owned by the fans.. factions has a certain amount of votes, and those who try to become presidents of the club, then try to please those supporters..
My club is more like Oakland.. we had one guy, a doctor who was elected chairman and took our club and made it the dominant club for 2 decades… now its evened out and we have trouble with the old fart trying to ruin my club… sounds familiar doesn’t it?
September 18th, 2008 at 8:45 am
TheDumbestbloggerInAmerica hands the pipe to SilverNBlackIdiot
September 18th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Hey Dakota, SnB-Sixes, M, 408..
Good Morning to you.. =)
September 18th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Trent Edwards ? I don’t remember him being great at Stanford. In fact he sucked. Two games into the season and now he’s the second coming of Elway. Time will tell if he’s the real deal but for now I’ll take a wait and see attitude.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:51 am
Dakota..
yeah I totally understand.. I think you would enjoy it =) the atmosphere, the energy even if you didn’t give a flying fu©k about the game..
I can’t wait for my first tailgate/college game/ NFL game/Raidersgame/…
September 18th, 2008 at 8:52 am
This song goes to Dakota..
o/~ So I bought a .44 magnum it was solid steel cast
And in the blessed name of Elvis well I just let it blast o/~
September 18th, 2008 at 8:53 am
R8R4FER,
Edwards has a great line blocking for him, and any QB given that much time is going to look pretty good.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:53 am
I think Burgess can beat Walker and get some pass rush. He was to much for Walker when he was here. Hopefully Burgess remembers how to beat him.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:54 am
Trent Edwards has great feet’s, he ligns up his hips nicely when he throws the ball, I like him, a lot in fact..
September 18th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Hells Bells..
I hope you are right, but sadly Walker’s game stepped up after he leaved oakland..
September 18th, 2008 at 8:58 am
Morning Silver&Black, Afternoon LMN,
Bottle up the run game and make Trent beat you. I as well, R8R4FER do not remember Edwards being such a big deal while down on the farm. Beating out Losman doesn’t necessarily send you to Canton.
Edwards said of his gamr winning drive against the Jags that the Jacksonville D went into a “cover 4″ at the end. In other words, a prevent. Listen up son of Buddy, Attack attack attack!
September 18th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Langston Walker will definitely have trouble with Burgess. As I remember speed rushers gave him trouble.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:59 am
M..
Edwards and Walter are very similar..
September 18th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Dakota,
what’s up in the land of wind and fossils?
September 18th, 2008 at 9:00 am
dazed and confused:
http://www.raiders.com/uploadedImages/Newsroom/Articles/042808ryan-qa1.jpg
September 18th, 2008 at 9:01 am
LMN
That sounds cool specially the way the rowdy crowd leaves the mellow crowd alone. Kinda like being @ a Raider home game.. Tough deal that both you favorite teams have owners that were great and are now just old!
September 18th, 2008 at 9:02 am
I think Kalimba Edwards will have a bigger game than Trent Edwards …
I’d sit Javon Walker until he’s 100%. If that’s midseason, so be it. I want to see what Schilens, Lelie, Watkins & Higgins can do. Curry really needs to step it up or he should have limited playing time. He’s the one guy we thought we could count on… what a lame duck in the first 2 games. Who is Jamarcus supposed to throw to if Zach Miller has to stay in and block every play?
September 18th, 2008 at 9:03 am
M Says:
September 18th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Dakota,
what’s up in the land of wind and fossils?
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The fall chill is in the air. Leaves are turning. Time to get the snow blower up and running. The usual.
Where are you located these days M? Still in Montana?
September 18th, 2008 at 9:03 am
I think the Bills will test Hall early and if they have success will force us to rotate a safety to help thus opening up the middle.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:05 am
LMN,
got to see a lot of Edwards on TV during his losing Stanford days. Commentators spoke of his (dreaded word) potential because in reality he was not very good. Perhaps he has changed into Warren Moon in the past months, but I almost never get a telecast of Buffy games to watch and find out for myself.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:06 am
Dakota,
back in the Bay Area for a couple of weeks.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:06 am
post 243 loks like a the big labowski but over weight.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:06 am
First off I just want to say that I am not MR, I am simply a long time reader of this blog and the comments. Think of me as an impartial 3rd party observer. I have noticed from my months of reading these comments that there are two individuals that seem to wreak havoc; MR and Oakglenn. Almost all of you hate MR, but few of you mention Oakglenn. I do not understand why Oakglenn does not get the same hate as MR. Yes, I believe MR occasionally posts under different names, but Oakglenn does the same thing but on a much larger scale. Oakglenn and all of his different personas really make this blog hard to swallow. He is mean and spiteful and when he is proven wrong by someone like Mistabrown, he takes the womanly rout of posting under different names.
My point is, Oakglenn is as bad, if not worse, for this blog than is MR. Just because MR takes an anti-Al Davis stance and Oakglenn takes a pro-Al Davis stance does not mean that Oakglenn should get a free pass for his trolling.
Just an opinion; do with it what you will.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Seahawks are a weak team right now, they even rank lower than we do in the SI power rankings. The Jags have a pretty good D and the Bills put up only 20 points on them. The jags, with a poor offense because of injuries, put up 16 points against them.
I see our passing D being better than the Jags. And our running game also. Remember, the Jags Oline is in shambles right now, so I could even go as far as saying that right now, our Oline is better as well.
So, can we put up more than 6 points against them, and prove our critics wrong? I think we can for sure. Can our D hold the Bills to 20 or less? Considering the Jags have a better Dline, but we have a better backfield, I would say yes. And if we run the ball and control the clock, we can for sure keep them within 20. So is this game winnable? For sure it is. Agree?
September 18th, 2008 at 9:08 am
666
Whats up bro? Hows your Kool-Aid? Mine has been very harsh lately…
September 18th, 2008 at 9:10 am
M..
well I saw him play last year, and I was pissed we didn’t got him, and chose CJ in the 1st =)
I think Edwards will be better than Romo, okay i don’t hold Romo in high regards, but I think Edwards seem more clever and has better technique
September 18th, 2008 at 9:10 am
GOODDDDDDDD MORNINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG VIETNAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM…………
How is it up there in the North Mr. Tyrant?
I hope the tyrant is getting his early morning choke right about now!
Someone get his his bedpan before he has the early morning doo doo in his pants……
So getting to business, I want to thank the gentlemen last night for the good words of encouragement. Our movement is slowly gaining strength and our words are begining to resonate with the few who have been here through think and thin and are tired of the wasted time in their lives they can not get back.
As far as the current state of the website, it is being built, to include a blog and hopefully be insightful with real information rather then speculation from facts of what is REALLY going on. We are having some breakdowns between person to person because of logistics and details, but it is being ironed out.
We have a CPA on board who is watching over and getting the bottom line together so that we can control anything that needs to be. You have to have a good foundation for this to be real, and I think we are going about it the right way.
As the link in the post earlier said, the fight will be long and hard….kinda like me……but anyways back to what I was saying, long and hard and relentless. We will continue to win over support from those of the Nation , who are very many I must say, that are tired of the tyrant and his helpeless mindset.
Be angry gentlemen (and ladies) at what you are getting on the field. Be angry at the coach if you want, although he has no control at the talent he is given to work with. Be angry that you spend your hard earned money and root with all of your might, but the end result is still the same. The old man in the booth looks down at you with his stupid smerk and watery eyes and just laughs.
But I say this, have no doubts…..We will be the last ones laughing, senile, bitter, cold hearted old man. You are a ghost of your past. You are a bad dream and everyone will wake up. They will wake up and remove themselves from this horrible place that you have created. HELL ON EARTH as I call it!
“Passion will not wait. The tragedy in the lives of great men often lies not in their conflict with the times and the baseness of their fellow men, but rather in their inability to postpone their work for a year or two. They cannot wait.”
September 18th, 2008 at 9:11 am
WE NEED TO keep switching up the run calls. Run both inside and out like last week. Seems we were very succesful running wide. Hope DMAC can go. Moving Stroud in the middle will be difficult.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:12 am
okay last soccer post.. =) I wish LOL
I’m pretty pleased with the recent development, and I think Danish Soccer will have a great season (finally!) LOL
Last night in Champions league a danish team (AAB) “won” 0-0 over Celtics (the real ones) with only 10 men left in the last 15 min.. only big teams as Bayern, Barca and other super clubs has gone off their pitch with points =) is a tough job to win in Scotland..
just now in the UEFA cup, another danish club (FCK) won over one of Russia’s best clubs..
in 2H and 45M my club (brondby) will meet Rosenborg in the UEFA CUP, Norways best team
and last week our national team beat Portugal.. seems like we about to rise from the quagmire..
September 18th, 2008 at 9:15 am
AMS
maby its because OG only ufcks with MR & mistabrown where MR will ufck with anybody and everybody.. JMO
September 18th, 2008 at 9:18 am
This game sunday is huge. Could be Kiffins biggest game to date. A win an confidence will be sky high.
Please DMAC heal up. Stop the run=win the game.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:20 am
LMN
I’m a lil slow how the hell?
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Last night in Champions league a danish team (AAB) “won” 0-0 over Celtics
September 18th, 2008 at 9:24 am
408
My guess is penalty kicks.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:28 am
[...] Source: Contra Costa Times [...]
September 18th, 2008 at 9:30 am
GOOOOO LAKERS!
September 18th, 2008 at 9:33 am
Wish we could have picked up Artest or Posey. Granted we are going to get Bynum back. Huge line up,
7-1,7-0,6-10,6-6,6-2.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:33 am
bells,
not only do we have to stop the run, but we also have to run the ball well. Our pass offense stinks. Not blaming it all on Russell. It’s a combination of his inexperience, the o-line and the receivers. If they stuff the run and we do, this could be a 9-6 game. Hopefully Janikowski plays like he did last week. I’m not worried about Edwards torching us like Cutler did. I’m not worried about D Hall matched up with Evans or Hardy either. Shannahan had a long time to come up with that gameplan against us, ever since the schedule was released. Plus they put up 39 against the Chargers who are supposed to have an awesome defense, especially pass def.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:35 am
Fart Melvin Spander
Do you expect us to believe that crap?
Sorry not me
September 18th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Hells Bells ok but wouldn’t you still have a score?
September 18th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Dakota,
d’ya think Bronko Nagurski or Dan Birdwell would’ve played with an ailing hamstring or turf toe?
September 18th, 2008 at 9:39 am
good morning 408
Dakota I said HI
September 18th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Rockstar
I agree. D Hall just had a bad game, think he was over confident. Last week he played great. Would rather have Hall than Cromartie. WE stop the run we take away the play action which is how they get Evans loose. Think we can run on anyone, just have to stay with thr runiing attack even if it sputters at first.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Dmc needs to borrow T.O’s hyperbarric chamber so his toe cann heak quicker we NEED this guy against the bills
September 18th, 2008 at 9:39 am
408..
“Last night in Champions league a danish team (AAB) “won” 0-0 over Celtics”
LOL,I understand why you choked on that one..
in Ch.League and Ueaf cup, you get 1 point for tie and 3 points for wins.. big difference in points and goals.. the games are all played in two’s, so celtic will go to AAB and get a return game in two weeks..
But if you are the underdog and you get a tie in the away game.. its a small victory, its easier to win home of course =)
and after the other clubs in Group E also got a tie, they all have 1 point, this means our little danish representatives has just as many points as the big ones, Man U and Villarreal and Celtics.. #1 and #2 gets through, then there is a new draw..
So it was a tie, but feels as a WIN and I bet the Celtics feel they lost the game..
September 18th, 2008 at 9:40 am
408
Goes something like this
0-0, (5-3 on pentalty kicks)
September 18th, 2008 at 9:42 am
guess I was wrong, ask me about football sometimes.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:43 am
can anyone tell me why Watkins has been on the inactive list two weeks in a row, and when will Curry stop dropping passes. Let the young guys play. Walker, Curry should not even be on the roster. Shillens, Watkins,Lelie, and Higgins are the way to go.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:44 am
LMN ok that was like a total brain teaser…
September 18th, 2008 at 9:45 am
666,
Hello to you too
M,
They probably would not have even mentioned those injuries…times have changed.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Maybe Walker will be inactive this week. Give Watkins a chance, guy worked his ass off all summer.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:55 am
One thing I can assure all of you hard core fans like myself is that when Al Davis dies there will be years and years of court battles over this team who has the power and who owns what % of the team.
I seriously believe that Al has treated his post life preparation of how this team, is handled like he has treated all of his business transactions in the last 5 years…..Horribly.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Oakglenn vs MR Says:
September 18th, 2008 at 7:53 am
First off I just want to say that I am not MR, I am simply a long time reader of this blog and the comments. Think of me as an impartial 3rd party observer. I have noticed from my months of reading these comments that there are two individuals that seem to wreak havoc; MR and Oakglenn. Almost all of you hate MR, but few of you mention Oakglenn. I do not understand why Oakglenn does not get the same hate as MR. Yes, I believe MR occasionally posts under different names, but Oakglenn does the same thing but on a much larger scale. Oakglenn and all of his different personas really make this blog hard to swallow. He is mean and spiteful and when he is proven wrong by someone like Mistabrown, he takes the womanly rout of posting under different names.
My point is, Oakglenn is as bad, if not worse, for this blog than is MR. Just because MR takes an anti-Al Davis stance and Oakglenn takes a pro-Al Davis stance does not mean that Oakglenn should get a free pass for his trolling.
Just an opinion; do with it what you will.
____________________________________________________
I think most here know this about Oak.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Per PFT:
“While the Lane Kiffin termination watch continues, we’ve picked up some interesting details about the current dynamics in the Raiders organization.
As we hear it, Davis currently is consulting with only two members of the organization regarding Kiffin’s fate: Mike Taylor and John Herrera.
Taylor is a media relations exec, and Herrera appears to be a jack of multiple trades, but apparently not a football guy.
It was Herrera, we’re told, who distributed in the press room on Wednesday the ESPN.com article regarding the folly of Kiffin’s decision to air dirty laundry regarding issues with defensive game-planning.
So why do Taylor and Herrera have Al’s ear? Apparently because they’re telling him what he wants to hear. And the strongly-held belief is that both Taylor and Herrera want Kiffin to be kaput.
Though it’s not publicly known whether others in the organization are of the same mindset as Taylor and Herrera, it’s safe to assume that, if they were, Davis would be talking to them, too. Since he’s only talking to Taylor and Herrera, it’s also safe to assume that the rest of the front office disagrees with what’s happening.”
What is with this John Herrera guy? I am starting to really hate him, his name pops up everytime there is a problem. It’s time we start the Fire Herrera campaign.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:58 am
ok how can these reports of Al is going to fire Kiffen be accurate if Al hasnt talked to anyone in weeks? who knows what Al is thinking unless someone in the front office is smoken ol’ Als sausage for him and hes whispering sweet nothings in in this pole smokers ear, and then this nob goblin is leaking info to the media for return favors, Mediaites will do anything for a lil juicy saasage….ooops! i mean gossip!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:00 am
KB & Bells,
I think the reason Watkins has been inactive is because last week we were hoping Walker would be ready. He wasn’t, although he did a nice job blocking on that long run by McFadden to his side. Watkins must need to improve his blocking skills and special teams ability, thats all I can think of, because we’re a run oriented team and he was catching everything thrown his way in camp.. Curry improved his blocking in the offseason too. I’d like to see more balls thrown to Lelie & Schilens and less thrown to Curry.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:03 am
I truly believe Al has been doing all the things completely on purpose to destoy the organization before he dies. He is hoping that he can do so much damage they it will never be the same. He wants to take the Raiders with him when he dies and sees this as the only way. He has always been nothing but a a lying slime ball whole stole the organization. Yes at one time he was a brilliant football mind, but now he is an old, senile, angry fool. If something isn’t done within the next couple of years Al will push this organization past the point of no return. He should have never been given complete control EVER. It just get worse by the day and probably we will never see this team get back to where it once was. THANKS FOR ALL THE CASH THOUGH AL.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Anyone who thinks Kiffin isn’t gonna be fired??? Yeah right. How can you keep telling a guy he is gonna get fired and just keep going? My guess is after SD. The new coach (Lofton, RR, Cable or Knapp) will at least have a couple weeks to get ready. I wish Al would go into a long sleep and get Brian Billick control.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Even if Curry has improved blocking and he does seem to find openings in the secondary, JaMarcus might be becoming reluctant to throw to the current wearer of the Dick Stuart honorary Hands of Stone medal. Ronald might give stickum a try or change his middle name to Clank. I like the man, he’s a pro, but Marv Throneberry could’ve held onto some of the balls thrown his way.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Morning Nation! We up or down today?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Dude Al looks crazy in his suite with his mouth hanging open!
So does anybody besides me think were going to win on Sunday? Bush will march us to victory!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Do you guys think we’ll bring Rankin up from the practice squad and team him with Bush against the Bills? I think we should save McFadden for the Chargers. If we don’t promote Rankin I think we should have some runs designed for Justin Griffith behind Luke Lawton and Zach Miller to the right side. Now that’s power baby! 2 big backs smackin ya in the mouth as a 1-2 punch. woohaa. Then try a fake outside run for Bush and have him throw it to Miller. That’s the only we’re we’re gonna find Miller open. Teams know that the TE is always a safety valve for a young QB and Miller has the best hands on the team.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Javon Walker= Jive Soul Bro
September 18th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Long live Al! Long Live Al!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Yo Dirty sorry to hear about your sentencing
Don’t trip tho brethren well still rep the NATION while your gone! If you were me would you trade McNabb for Royal?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:12 am
hey Brien old buddy old pal…………………….How the hell are ya? Ready to stirr the masses?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Did anyone else read this article where an “inside source” said this about the Lane Kiffin issue: “Al Davis has a plan, and he will execute that plan when he’s ready. He will not make any rush decisions. And he’s not bound to anyone’s timeline.”
2 things, 1- who’s this “inside source”, and 2- what does this mean exactly?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:13 am
HellsBells..
there are only penalty kick shootouts in finals.. world cup and such.. 1/8 finals the penalty shootout start..
This is why you as an american has difficulties with the games, because real soccer is played by the clubs and most americans only watch soccer when its world cup or euro cup..
you need to understand that National teams soccer only is a byproduct of real soccer, and a way for us not to fight wars, but still get in eachothers faces..
you = the common you, not Hellsbells..
September 18th, 2008 at 10:14 am
I hope DMAC can go. Want to see his speed on some turf.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:14 am
EM…..
1-Brien is the inside source. He talks football everyday with the Tyrant.
2-Nothing.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:14 am
KC couln’t get out of their own way. Buffalo is a solid team. Only hope is to have about a 5-0 turnover ratio, run the ball like crazy and keep JaMarcus upright. Is there any way to get Al committed to a nut house??
September 18th, 2008 at 10:15 am
Actually, I would like to retract the @ 2 comment earlier….
#2 should read:
2. He plans to die slowly in a pool of his own vomit and was simply indicating that he is making his funeral arraingements.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:16 am
408
No worries man I accepted it a long time ago… The most I can get now is a year and its a breath of fresh air compared to what I was looking at… I will be back before you know it. Who has Mcnabb? I would not trade him, he is on fire. Who is your back up QB? He has to give you more than just royal…
September 18th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Chaos=zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz try getting some new material
September 18th, 2008 at 10:18 am
El Dirty man that sucks bruh
September 18th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Hells Bells
I think we should sit DMac Its a long season and were gonna need him. Besides I want to see what Bush can do as the feature back…
September 18th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Dakota #281
Exactly what I was saying earlier.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:21 am
Brien…my scholarship friend whats new?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:21 am
408
You think Bush can handle all the carries. Dont see them bringing up Rankin. Dmac as change of pace back?
Also we dont know how bad he is hurt. Think it is just precautionary. We need this game.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:22 am
408 its about the purple this time if year.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:22 am
Highly unfortunate to hear that LMN
September 18th, 2008 at 10:22 am
Hells:
Rankin will be a last min decision. Kiff is just waiting to see if the handcuffs would be taken off of him to get rid of Sam Williams.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:22 am
El Dirty..
we are definitely up, great sports day today (or infact all week) so the mood is good =)
what the hell have you been doing, driving while mobile talking??
September 18th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Dirty
Glad you got your head up Jail Sucks! I have McNabb and Cun tler. Was trying to get westbrook but something about a no trade thingy or whatever.. So Im trying to get T.O. id do that but so far no response!
GO RAIDERS
September 18th, 2008 at 10:23 am
666- yeah especially while you are on scholarship!!!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Hey El Dirty…….as much as I’d like to think I am…..no one is perfect brother………trust that
September 18th, 2008 at 10:25 am
BRB
September 18th, 2008 at 10:27 am
666 hell yeah! Sadly I broke my last night…
so Im all about the blunts 4 now!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:28 am
LMN
Whats up bud Just got to work.
408
You have the luxury of 2 goood QB’s make the trade for TO not for Royal unless they package someone else with him.
Dakota
Got into a fight and got 5 charges on it… Was looking at a long time but now everything was dropped but 1 charge… So instead of them striking me out and growing old in a box. I have 1 yr max no prison time. I never brought it up before because I used this place as an escape but now that I know it’s not that bad I can talk about it.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Hey brien
September 18th, 2008 at 10:31 am
brien give dave a yell,..hes not wanting to drive for charger game,..we need his rig,…my charger bud is coming…everyone will be there but isaac…call him,..I need all to grind on him to drive….if he doesnt drive theres no tailgate.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Well on sunday we shall see if our raiders can run the ball on the bills and let’s see if they can stop the the run. Hope Bush does great. My prediction raiders get killed, cuz of the defense, AGAIN, Kiffin is the scapegoat, gets fired, Rob “Vagina” Ryan becomes head coach, gives a rah, rah speech, maybe he wins one more game, at the end of the season he has one million excuses why its not his fault and next year will be promising, then will be now, and we will be in the toilet once again.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:35 am
I wonder if Walker is afraid to play… Maybe his head isn’t on right…
September 18th, 2008 at 10:37 am
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Hang in there!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Hells Bells
Damn Right I think Bush can handle it.. I didn’t want to get McFadden because we had Bush(I wanted cLong) but now that we have him Im on the bandwagon! Turf + turf toe = new bigger injury.. IMO
September 18th, 2008 at 10:38 am
DMAC should not practice until hes completly healed…
“Take the week off son. In fact, take them all off. We’ll see you on Sunday…”
September 18th, 2008 at 10:38 am
can anybody give me there honest opinion about jamarcuss russell? it it the play calling, recievers, blocking or him, me personally i think if he was on any other team he would be a star please reply
September 18th, 2008 at 10:38 am
D just has to stay aggressive. Cats out the bag, thats how we need to play. Went to zone when up 16 to K.C. and got torched. Release the hounds.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Also I think the D scores for us this week. Hall pick 6.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:40 am
The reason why Walker can’t play is he pulled a hammy from all the cash in me.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:41 am
Dirty,
Sounds like a decent deal.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:44 am
FREE DIRTY!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:44 am
damn right 408,
You guys member how excited we all were when they drafted Bush? He was a beast at Louisville, the total package. Kiffin has tried to peg him as this short-yardage banger back, but the fact of the matter is he is more of a feature back. He has real quick feet, is elusive in the pile and in space, has great hands, can make people miss, and has the speed to get downfield in a hurry, and the power to steamroll DB’s. While McFadden can hit the home run, he doesn’t move the ball consistently, Bush on the other hand can move the chains and sustain those long drives.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Dirty,
Would you like all of us to write character letters to the judge for your sentencing?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Is Severeretard in here? I don’t want him to beat me up. Just tell me if he’s here, please? I’m so scared…
September 18th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Dear Judge Judy,
El Dirty is a cool guy, even if his girl is a Chargers fan.
Sincerely,
Dakota
September 18th, 2008 at 10:48 am
# Art Melvin Spander Says:
September 18th, 2008 at 9:06 am
First off I just want to say that I am not MR, I am simply a long time reader of this blog and the comments. Think of me as an impartial 3rd party observer. I have noticed from my months of reading these comments that there are two individuals that seem to wreak havoc; MR and Oakglenn. Almost all of you hate MR, but few of you mention Oakglenn. I do not understand why Oakglenn does not get the same hate as MR. Yes, I believe MR occasionally posts under different names, but Oakglenn does the same thing but on a much larger scale. Oakglenn and all of his different personas really make this blog hard to swallow. He is mean and spiteful and when he is proven wrong by someone like Mistabrown, he takes the womanly rout of posting under different names.
My point is, Oakglenn is as bad, if not worse, for this blog than is MR. Just because MR takes an anti-Al Davis stance and Oakglenn takes a pro-Al Davis stance does not mean that Oakglenn should get a free pass for his trolling.
Just an opinion; do with it what you will.
______________________________________________________
Come on MR that’s a joke right??? How many times has someone accused me of posting under another name?? LMN just called me Caribou Barbie a couple of posts ago. I’m not posting as Caribou Barbie. Where the confusion lies is MR posts as me, and others and does so with the intent of destroying the blog and making a mess. I post as Oakglenn. I don’t have to post as others. I have cred. I stand by every single post I have ever put up on this blog. And there are thousands of them. MR has been completely discredited as a liar, a fraud, and someone who just comes here to eff this place up. Now that once again his anit Al, anti Raider tirade has been beaten back, it’s time to try to discredit Oakglenn with unproven accusations. Take that as you wish.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Thanks Dell
Dakota I got real lucky I have nothing to complain about.
408
LMAO
September 18th, 2008 at 10:49 am
MR,
Did you give True Blood another shot? I watched the second episode, and it is growing on me.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Dakota
I’m actually collecting those… If you guys would that would be awesome… eldirty101@hotmail.com I just dont know how it would work since I never really met you guys.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:50 am
BBB
Not knocking Bush. Just think we need two backs to be sucessful. DMAC 7.0 yards per carry is pretty good. Let Bush beat them up and let DMAC run by them after they are beat up. Love Bush also.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Guys, had nightmares all night of Severeretard and his “slender build”. That dream where he’s chasing me and my feet are too heavy to run. Woke up in a cold sweat. He really shouldn’t have gave me his measurements when he threatened me last night, because now I’m twice as scared. I’m seeing 6′, slender people in my dreams, left and right. It’s making me insane.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Dakota, only watching Entourage right now. Did you watch that?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Dirty,
I was just kidding. I would avoid giving the judge letters from your blog friends for two reasons;
First, we don’t really know you, and
Second, the judge may look at letters from people that comment on a blog as proof that you are not really contributing to the betterment of society.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:55 am
How’s DJ Quik say it? It’ a medium fit me proper cause I’m nice and slim… Oh no. Severeretard is DJ Quik! I knew I shouldn’t have messed with him. I don’t mess with Compton, man. Severeretard, I’m calling a truce. I’m too scared. So just put your 40 and the freezer and get bent tonight.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:56 am
BBB
exactly! I always thought Kiffin was trippin for trying to make him the short yardage guy.. Bush heres your opportunity seize the moment my man!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Should give props to super Mario. 1st NFL start. 0 holding penalties, 0 false starts, and 0 sacks. BSims hasn’t had a game like that his whole career. I hope DMac can go, but don’t want him hurt any further. Bush looked awesome in the 4th.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:56 am
MR,
Yeah I saw Entourage on Sunday. Drama cracks me up, but the episode was kind of boring IMO.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Now I’m out of the tub, I’m feeling fancy free…
September 18th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Does anybody need some reading material? I have some articles to pass out.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Isn’t Mike Taylor a USC guy that came on board when Kiff got hired?
September 18th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Dakota
Good point lol I could imagine what some of those letters would look like
El Dirty is a !)@#*$&!)@#*&)#*%&)#*%&)#**%&%@#))!#@#&$&*%*(#(@($%)%(#&^@^$^%*#*@#(#($*^!#&Y$%(!#$% ans his girls is a #$&%(Q*#&^$%(Q*&^%(Q#*^%^@%@%^V%^$&&$ He once said #*#&%Q(**#%)@)$%*%&#& about my mom! That $&*#**#)Q@*#&%)(*#%)Q#*%&)Q#*%&) and he also said *$%&Q)#%Q)#%)Q#&%)Q#*%&Q)#*%&Q)*@#@^
September 18th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Hey Dakota,
Democrats privatized Fannie & Freddie, and the Republicans nationalize them, go figure.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am
Drama’s meltdown was classic. Most episodes are boring. I mainly watch for Ari and Drama. They’re the comic relief of that show, no doubt.
Although, I think the plot line’s getting interesting, too. When Vinny Chase was getting set up with that girl’s friend, instead of the one he wanted, he realized he was a second fiddle in tinseltown, and that Ari had pretty much cut him loose. Ari tells him he never thought he was a good actor. Just a good star. That’s hollywood.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am
John do you think you can tell Kiff to not play Javon again? He needs two strong legs to carry me around. Also, tell Al to please keep feeding me cuz I wanna get fatter.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Dirty
If I put my name on a letter to a judge they might throw away the key!
I can send you some skin flicks while your in there tho…
MR 342 LMAO
September 18th, 2008 at 11:05 am
LOL, Herrera. Suddenly the media is your friend, huh? Some resolve there in Alameda. First the press is not to be trusted, then all they had to do was stroke you guys the right way, and you melt like a girl on prom night. Kreidler’s writing a book on Al Davis and his management during Oakland’s second stint. Set to rip him hard. He’s writing pro Raider stuff right now to get in with you guys, for more interviews and sources, numbnuts. Read between the lines.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:05 am
“I don’t know that there’s a lot of people who would want to work there”
Didnt we hear this same crap about free agents? The fact is Money talks, B.S. works for Fox sports.
If they are paid enough they will deal wiith the situation. Jerry Jones pays his coaches a lot. Thats why they put up w/ him in Dallas.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:06 am
post 339… im puking of laughter..
if i was a judge an received letters from a raider blogg, I would sentence you to either life or let you go..
its a crap shooot, lets see how it goes =)
September 18th, 2008 at 11:08 am
dammit.. post 349.. even =)
September 18th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Everyone in the press it out for Al Davis’s blood. Everyone. Ever since Padecky. Kreidlers’ no exception. So you really have to wonder why he’s taking up for Davis all of a sudden. He’s playing scorpion.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:09 am
ahhhh just ordered in the tex-mex.. the game starts in 35 min, I’m starting to feel pumped! Sad I’m not going to the stadium, but then again now I can eat and smoke till I drop…
September 18th, 2008 at 11:09 am
That Kriedler article was commissioned by the Raider PR dept. Let’s be serious.
Al is definetley feeling the heat.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:10 am
408
Thanks lol
September 18th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Al Davis,
You wanna call all the shots, take the heat baby!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Lane Kiffin has said he will not be your scapegoat.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:14 am
Raider Tay, here’s the difference:
Al Davis doesn’t pay his coaches jack. Jones does. Yes, if Al Davis did actually pay his head coach a real NFL head coach’s salary, more top tier coaches would come here just for the scratch and cope with Al’s meddling. But he won’t. And never will. He wouldn’t give Gruden a new contract after he took us from 4-12 to the AFC Championship game, in 3 years flat. Only offered him an extension. Then when it was obvious Gruden was going to leave, offered him a bigger contract. He basically fired him. That’s Al Davis. And that’s why nobody worth a damn will come here. That’s why people like Kiffin are the best we’ll ever do. That’s why we need him.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:15 am
just imagine the stories we all will get wehn old man Al dies, then all those once hired by him get enough nerve to tell the truth.. Oh man that will be a tough year, they might wait over a year of respect of Mr Davis, but then, then the bile will flow =)
September 18th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Was just reading that RR will be the next head coach after Kiffins dismissal.
Silver lining maybe AL will hire a DC.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Al doesn’t think the Raiders need an NFL coach. He thinks he’s the only coach the Raiders need.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:18 am
hells bells if you got that info from Raiderfans.net it’s a joke, those people are the tabloid reporters.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Kell, I think Kreidler’s working Davis because he’s writing a book. Kreidler wrote for the Sac Bee for years. He knows how many Raider fans hate Al. He’s targeting that market for a book, guaranteed. HE’s taking up for the old man now to get in good with him so he’ll have more inside sources at his disposal. Then he’s going to just smash them in his book. The press sticks together. They’ve never forgiven Davis for the Padecky incident, and never will. You don’t try to frame a writer for drug possession and expect not to get repeatedly whacked by the press for the duration of your celebrity.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:18 am
fire the temp…
September 18th, 2008 at 11:19 am
I dont if I would want a Ryan as a head coach. I dont know if anyone got the same feeling on sunday but I thought Bill Cohwer ( I know I misspelled it) was speaking very passionatly about the Raiders… Maybe hmmm Bill next head coach?! Nice dream
September 18th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Al is proof that Karma rules. Always a dirt bag, slime ball. For every person he helped there are a thousand he has crapped all over including every fan. Burn in hell big Al you piece of garbage. But thanks again for making me so freakin fat.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Hurricane Pete
September 18th, 2008 at 11:20 am
The Kriedler articles timing suggests to me he was commissioned by the Raider PR dept.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:21 am
MR……I think that Vinnie is gonna get whooped on the white girl he was trying to get at……not that I would complain, but dude….he should be pimpin….
September 18th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Raiderfans.net members come here a lot to get away from Attyla. His father knows best, wannabe cop, holier than thou attitude gets old. People just need a break so they come here for a few weeks. If BK knew what he was doing he’d strip Attyla of his mod status, fast. They’re losing activity because of him. Guaranteed.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Gannon: Kiffin doing a great job
Despite an overall coaching record of 5-13, Lane Kiffin has his admirers. And at least one of them is sure to make an impression on those who follow the Raiders. It’s Rich Gannon, the central figure of the last Oakland team to sport a winning record.
From 1999-2002, Gannon had four of the most prolific passing seasons in franchise history. His last two NFL seasons were truncated by injuries. Now he analyzes games for CBS – most recently, the Raiders at Kansas City last Sunday.
Following the news about Kiffin’s perilous position, and having seen the Chiefs’ narrow loss to reigning AFC champion New England in Week 1, Gannon expected Kansas City to prevail at home. The Raiders won fairly easily, and the former quarterback was impressed with the way they ran the ball.
“I went back and watched the film,” Gannon said by phone from his home in Minnesota. “And the job Lane Kiffin did, and has done with JaMarcus Russell – he’s done a phenomenal job. The game plan was to run the ball, and they were diligent about it. I think JaMarcus Russell is very, very, very raw. He’s a guy that doesn’t have a lot of experience.”
So Kiffin put the ball in the hands of Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden and Michael Bush, and the team wound up with 300 rushing yards and its first victory of the season.
“What did he complete, six throws?” Gannon said of Russell, who was 6 of 17 for 55 yards. “I got a kick out of it. If I had numbers like that as the Raiders quarterback, I would have been booed off the field. But they stuck to the game plan and it worked. That’s why I think Lane’s doing a very good job.”
Gannon did not voice his opinions in a vacuum. He knows that owner Al Davis may fire Kiffin any day, any minute. And this puts the former Raider in a tough position. He has some fondness for Davis, who gave him the financial commitment other teams had been unwilling to offer, and enabled Gannon to become a league MVP.
But it pains Gannon to see what his former team has become since he left.
“At some point, you have to say, ‘Who’s making the decisions?’” Gannon noted. “If they go 5-11, they’ll set a record (for most consecutive seasons with 11 or more losses). They’ve already tied the record set by Tampa Bay (1985-89). They talk about commitment to excellence, but that’s not getting it done. So you say the problem is Bill Callahan. Then you say the problem is Norv Turner, then it’s Art Shell, then it’s Lane Kiffin.
“Well, who’s hiring them? Who’s the general manager? Whose decision was it to pay Tommy Kelly $50 million, and to pay Javon Walker $55 million, and to pay DeAngelo Hall that kind of money? I really don’t know. But was it Lane Kiffin’s decision? I don’t think so.”
The clichéd-script version of an NFL team would have a rowdy or outspoken player a suit-and-tie coach or owner. (Think Duane Thomas playing for Tom Landry’s Cowboys.) Here, the reverse was true. Gannon was fiery, but all in the service of the team concept. Davis, on the other hand, has always tolerated, even celebrated, a loose ship.
“Mr. Davis and I get along. I enjoyed my time with the Raiders,” Gannon said. “But we never saw eye-to-eye with discipline. You look at the teams that have it, and they win every year – we’re talking Pittsburgh, New England, Green Bay. You can take Randy Moss. He’s been a problem child everywhere he’s been. But you put him in New England and he isn’t a problem at all. Why? Because the GM and the head coach aren’t gonna tolerate that.”
When Moss was in Oakland, his pouting was clearly tolerated by Davis, and by extension, Turner and Shell. And we all saw how that worked out.
Speaking of Kiffin, he had another gem this morning, on his conference call with Buffalo-area media. Asked how he got up for work every morning not knowing his fate, he said: “How about when you go for a jog yesterday and you feel like it’s paparazzi, because the TV cameras are following you and they’re asking you if you’re still the coach of the Raiders? I felt like Brad Pitt.”
After finishing his answer, mostly a continuation of his “I don’t worry about what I can’t control” mantra, one of the writers back there asked him if he ever thought he’d be treated like Britney (or as it was written in a transcript of the conversation, “Brittany” – insert Buffalo-as-backwater joke here). “I said Brad, not Britney,” Kiffin replied.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:22 am
How about Turtle…….So you lie to your boyfriend, why don’t you tell him we didn’t have sex last night……I wish that crap worked when I was playin the field……That crap would have got someone slapped…..
September 18th, 2008 at 11:23 am
You know, I can see Al keeping Kiffin for the only reason being that maybe with all this “heat” everyone’s talking about Al Davis is feeling, he might actually beging to worry about his “Legacy”. SO in a selfish effort to keep from falling from grace (if he hasn’t already), Al will apeace the fans, media, and critics, and keep the kid for at least this season.
Which would be the smart thing to do football wise too, if he cared about the players and the team. Because it would give whoever is coming in next (who will be someone from within) time to see what’s work this year and what hasn’t. And then they can make their changes accordingly.
And the players will have some consistency this year, Russell won’t have to learn a new gameplan midseason, and will give the whole team a full off-season to get caught up on whatever the new HC will bring with him, or might change.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Chaos, I think it was more about Vinny getting that second fiddle feeling when she was setting him up with her friend. What kind of A list celebrity gets passed off to the friend? That’s when he flipped and confronted Ari, and Ari just about admitted to him that he’d been pretty much released. Even told him he wasn’t a good actor. Only a good star. I’m actually getting into the plot line, probably because I’ve been around Hollywood (on a student and gofer level..). It’s a well written show.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Everytime I try to read an article on Insidebayarea, it never loads properly. This happens at home and work. Is everybody experiencing this? If someone could post that ‘Kiffin seeks counsel…” article, I’d really appreciate it.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:26 am
jeezus MR… you want to accuse Davis of setting up Padecky???
what’s next ??? three mile island ???
September 18th, 2008 at 11:27 am
branden marshall is in legal trouble AGAIN…..
espn.com
September 18th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Hey Tyrant….I wont say the name because I despise it….Here is the story….
ALAMEDA — USC coach Pete Carroll is the person who hired Lane Kiffin for his first high-profile position. Naturally, they have remained in contact since Kiffin joined the Raiders in 2007.
Carroll said their phone calls of late have centered on Kiffin remaining focused in the face of outside distractions.
Kiffin is engaged in a power struggle with Raiders managing general partner Al Davis and in danger of being fired.
“I’m continuing to support him to do what he knows how to do,” Carroll said in a conference call. “I don’t know why anyone would want to make this thing so disruptive right now.”
Carroll said part of the allure of coaching in the college ranks is the autonomy that comes with the job. That’s something he learned from coaching stints in the NFL with the New England Patriots and New York Jets.
“It’s really hard to get everybody on the same page,” he said. “It’s hard to support the guy who has to have the support: the head coach.”
That’s not a problem at USC, Carroll said.
“I’m the (general manager), I’m the personnel guy, I’m the academic adviser and I’m the head coach,” he said.
Kiffin said Wednesday that he has no idea what Davis is thinking these days and has not met with him since Bay Area News Group reported Sunday that Davis is prepared to fire Kiffin.
“No, I have not had communication with him over the last two weeks,” Kiffin said in a conference call with Buffalo-area
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media. “All I know is what people tell me or what’s in the paper; that front office people have informed (reporters) that he’s making a decision, whenever it’s coming. “… As crazy as it sounds, I know as much as (the media).”
Running backs hurting
The success enjoyed by running backs Justin Fargas and Darren McFadden against the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday didn’t come without a price.
Fargas sustained a groin injury. McFadden came away from the game with turf toe. On Wednesday, both players missed practice.
Kiffin said he is hopeful that McFadden will return to practice today. As for Fargas, Kiffin said: “It doesn’t look very good right now.”
Therefore, second-year player Michael Bush is the lone healthy back on the Raiders roster, and he touched the ball for the first time in his two-year NFL career only four days ago.
Extra points
Left offensive tackle Kwame Harris (knee) also missed practice. He has not practiced since he sustained an injury against the Denver Broncos on Sept. 8. Kiffin said he is hopeful Harris will practice today. Harris missed last Sunday’s game. Wide receiver Javon Walker (hamstring) aggravated an injury he sustained late in training camp and missed the last half of practice.
— Steve Corkran
September 18th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Hey MR……You know the show is based on reality right? I think they have good actors that improvise and make the characters stand out, but for the most part it is based on that new kid on the blocks brother….what the hell is his naame…………………………….Markie Mark….
September 18th, 2008 at 11:31 am
I also think it is funny that he acts in his own story…..with Ari playing golf with him…….comedy bro….
September 18th, 2008 at 11:35 am
But seeing as Kiffin kept his job thus far, he almost certainly will be the coach Sunday when the Raiders play at Buffalo, where they are 9 1/2 -point underdogs.
After that, all bets are off. Kiffin is in the second year of the three-year, $6-million deal he signed in 2007. In Kiffin’s first season, the Raiders were 4-12, doubling their 2006 win total, and held fourth-quarter leads in nine games. They improved in most offensive categories, including going from 29th to sixth in rushing.
While saying he has no specific inside information on the day-to-day decisions of the team and owner, Raiders great Tim Brown says he thinks the Kiffin-Davis split is based on conflicting personalities, not dueling philosophies.
“It can’t be about the young kid and what he’s doing as far as coaching,” said Brown, who retired in 2005 as the team’s all-time leading receiver. “Something happened behind closed doors that they didn’t click. It’s Al’s ball, and he can play with whoever he wants to play with. And if he chooses not to play with Lane anymore, that’s just the way it’s going to be.”
espn
September 18th, 2008 at 11:35 am
I never thought that I would see a group of Raider fans talking about Entourage… lol
September 18th, 2008 at 11:35 am
EMRaider, that’s a good point. But remember that Al likes to wait till he has a moral high ground (at least in his own eyes…he’s not fooling others) to fire someone. We just killed KC. From everything I’ve read about Al Davis, he really doesn’t like firing people outright. He likes to force them out. He likes to pressure them into a corner and make them start doing things that would give him the high ground to fire them. And, that’s no doubt what he’s doing to Kiffin right now. My guess is that Al waits till the bye. If we’re 1-3, Kiffin is gone. Probably immediately after the SD game. He probably won’t even show up for the press conference. If we’re 2-2, Al will spend the whole first week of the bye mulling it over. If we’re 3-1, Kiff will stay. Al’s not going to fire him while we’re winning. But he’ll never stop screwing with him. And for that reason, Kiffin will never stop using the press as his weapon. Best case scenario is that we improve while Al Davis and Lane Kiffin have a Billy Martin/Steinbrenner relationship. Or, better yet, a Jon Gruden/Al Davis relationship.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Shawn
Tell whoever dropped Royal thanks!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:36 am
oops wrong league
September 18th, 2008 at 11:37 am
No, I don’t blame Al for everything, Florida Pete. Just awful management of the Raiders and yes, the Padecky incident. I don’t blame Al for anything else.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:38 am
lol yeah i would not hace dropped him!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:39 am
have
September 18th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Yeh, Raider fans watching Entourage…
Guess times are changing.
Give us a break. Hee Haw isn’t on anymore.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:42 am
When you’re 80 years old, and your days are numbered, you get more selfish. It’s human nature I guess.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Al Davis= king of the world
September 18th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Oh, Raider fans watch The Shield, too! Some of us are wannabe actors and film makers, others are sheltered white neo cons who love nothing more than to curl up under a blanket and watch a bald headed white cop terrorize LA’s black and Latino communities. Whatever your fancy.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Boy, George Bush sure ran this country into the ditch!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Brien!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Maybe Al Davis should sell the Raiders and start a new career…as an investment counselor! HA HA!!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Hey now Al and George Bush have something in common. Besides being crooks they run things into the ground. Al the Raider and GW the country.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Kook Kell, McCain thinks the economy’s strong, and that America is full of whiners. Maybe he’s right. Maybe we should all get a huge loan to start a business, fail miserably, then go the government for a bailout. That’s the conservative way!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Ima a gezzin sinze ya doodz aint aksed me to play runnin bak fer ya team yer nota tekkin me berry cereal. All minez life I beena wnatin ta folla en my pa’z shewz. ess cee woodnt tek me cuz I coodnt pazz the rithamtek tezt. So iahdda goez ta Bondad Tek where I dun broked all the rush rekkurds ther juzt like minez pa did at ess cee. Whin I wuz tellin minez pa dat I waza gonna go an pley fer the radars so I cood weer a unaform liken hiz he advized me ta go pley fer da bozz in kay cee cuz he wuz mor prufeshnal thn wuz dat of da radrz bozz. I dun tole pa dat I had dun conzidard pleyin in kay cee an awerina unyform liked pa dun did in kay cee. Butt iwuz inberazzed ta cuz da laffin stok of the nfl beetz da teem fro kay cee on sudeyan now kay cee wuz da laffin stok uv the nfl. Now dat I’vabeen aksin ya doodz ifn I couldz pley fer yer teem an youz binn anorin me I dun tawked to my frien Jawzh Shawl wo wuz a pleyin fer yer teem befer ya doodz give hm daboot. Jawzh Shawl dun toad me dat dem der muztangs frum the roky mowtenz iz alot betta teem ta pleyz fer dan da radarz cuz theyz got demself goood cochez an good pleyerz andat da oner uv dat teem in Callarado aint az tardid az da oner uv da radarz. So Ima gonnna mozey on upta Denvar townz an becums a mustang. Den whin I playz aginst ure zorriassed teem ima gonna runz mine hardezt agin uze teem an betcha I duz run fer ober 200 yardz aginst yer lozer teem. Den youz doodz wil be zorry fer nata lettin me pley on yer fellaz teem. Pa mor n likly will be mor n happyz dat I sokked it ta da ole man in da wheelchare 2.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Brien Says:
September 18th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Al Davis= king of the world
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yaaaaaaaaaaawn or zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, which ever witty comment you like best, lol.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:48 am
What is Adimchinobe Echemandu up to these days? Raiders seem to be running out of RB’s at an alarming rate.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:49 am
I really wanted to give walker a chance, but he is killing us right now. We cannot release him, no one will trade for him, so all we can do is either encourage him to retire again, or wait for him to get healthly. Ashley L. appears to be our best WR right now. WOW!! That is a shocker to me.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:49 am
KK, I wish he JUST ran it into a ditch. I think George ran this country off a cliff and into an abyss.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Why does anyone need the government to bail them out. Just ask Javon to help you. He’s got enough for everyone.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Javon Walker + Johnnie Lee Higgins = Zero catches so far this season. I think our wide outs have a combined total of about eight catches so far..
September 18th, 2008 at 11:51 am
404=0
September 18th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Obama’s back ahead in most polls. What did I tell ya? He doesn’t even have to run. This economy is going to win the election for him. Palin’s charm is no match for the news of America’s economy going into the crapper, and McCain already having taken the wrong position on the economy too many times to retract.
If the real thing dont do the trick
No, you better make up something quick
You gonna burn burn burn burn it to the wick
Ooooooohhhh, barra barracuda.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:54 am
I just hope recent events will cause people to think for themselves, and not be sheeple. Because a lot of people (poor people even) were all for the Trickle Down practices of the Republicans.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:55 am
I would certainly rather have Kiffin or Rathman as the HC ahead of Lofton or Ryan.
I think Rathman would be a good game manager and he would bring discipline. He knows what it takes to win games and Super Bowls and he believes in the West Coast hybrid style offense that Kiffin and Knapp are running. Full time play calling duties would go to Knapp with help from Cable. I can live with that!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:56 am
In regrads to: Post #410
By: Raiderbaitor Says
That’s a disturbing stat, we need someone to step up in the passing game. Buffalo will stack the line of scrimmage, and unlike KC they have the personnel to stop our running game.
If the passing game continues to fail, Kiffin might be out of a job on Monday.
Seth
Raider Fan since 1982
‘In Lane I Trust’
September 18th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Entourage is lame
September 18th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Koolkell,
Like I said…if McCain and the evil and crooked GOP Republicans win this election by CORRUPT methods again….then unfortunately this country will BE FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Not only will Buffalo stack the box, but they will probably be able to score TD’s. Which makes our passing game even more imperative.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Raiderbaitor= Higgins hasnt had the ball thrown his way…….dont even put Walker and Higgins in the same category….we know Higgins has heart
September 18th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Brien, I just like Entourage because I worked in Hollywood for a brief time. Sort of like how you would find interest in a show about homelessness.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Mc Fadden, was suited up for practice. Fargas and Harris, were not…per, Jason Jones.
No mention, of the Hammy one..
September 18th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Darkknight the country is already in the crapper
September 18th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
You worked in Hollywood briefly? So you were briefly living that “Hollywood” lifestyle huh?
September 18th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I can’t believe McCain can win, when the rubber meets the road. The ruling party’s record is just too bad. Even for those who have reservations about voting for a black man. Americans aint that stupid!
September 18th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Homelessness joke was quite lame MR…….you were so on yesterday now we are back to the regular you
September 18th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
What happened to getting the backs involved in the passing game? Play action dump it off. Builds confidence and would set up the deep strike.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
With no threats at WR Buffalo will have 8 guys up every down. I see the offense getting less than 150 total yards for the game. Kiffin might even put in AW to absorb some of the abuse. Al will be smiling with those yellow teeth cuz he can finally force Kiffin out. In two years Kiffin will go on to coach Syracuse to a national title.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
MR,
Palin doesn’t have charm….she is a naive woman who abuses her power and is under investigation as we speak. Plus she is married to corrupt big oil!
She didn’t even know what the Bush doctrine was and was stumoed on national TV. She is garbage…
September 18th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
McCain is not winning……..not even young white people wanna see his old butt in office
September 18th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
If Kiffin pulls off the upset against Buffalo, Al really needs to re think himself.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Kell…………Obama is black? since when?
September 18th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Darkknight………..I bet she can blow a good one though
September 18th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
kiffie will coach syracuse into the same location they are now…
le toilet…
(pardon my french)
September 18th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
The “Hollywood lifestyle”? You mean, being rich, famous, and nailing any woman you want to? No. Only went to film school and got coffee on a couple of indy sets. Sorry if you were looking for a gay fantasy story to pleasure yourself to. There’s plenty of sites for that, Brien. Then again, I don’t have to tell you. You’ve probably got one in another tab right now. That’s why you’ve been so quiet this morning.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Kiffin= a nobody………Al will make your ass famous
September 18th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Here’s our stats so far in the league:
per game NFL AFC WEST
Total Offense 331 yds 13th 3rd
Total Defense 315.5 yds 18th 1st
Points Scored 18.5 pts 19th 3rd
Points Allowed 24.5 pts 23rd 2nd
Here’s the Bills:
per game NFL AFC EAST
Total Offense 311.5 yds 16th 1st
Total Defense 247.5 yds 5th 1st
Points Scored 27 pts 7th 1st
Points Allowed 13 pts 7th 2nd
September 18th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ you the one going into 49er gay stuff not me sir…….Hollywood lifestyle I was referring to was the drugs and women…..
September 18th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Proabaly so, Pete. And Al Davis will manage the Raiders into the same location they’re in now. I’ll just say it in English. The toilet. This team was in the toilet before Kiffin got here, and will be in it after Kiffin leaves. It will be in the toilet as long as Al Davis is alive. And, you know it.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Film school? so what USC, UCLA or CSUN?
September 18th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
MR= loves it when the Raiders lose………it helps his argument against Al Davis
September 18th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Oh, sorry, Brien. It’s just that you accuse everyone you disagree with of either acting like a woman or being gay. So, forgive me for assuming your mind is on the gay lifestyle most of the time.
Hollywood lifestyle, for a film student working part time in Sacramento to make ends meet? Drugs- little bit. Women- no better than what’s available to the average angry, black Al Davis worshiper in the east bay.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Fuk try to get some work done and I miss out on 408!
GO RAIDERS
September 18th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Kiffin will never Coach at Syracuse. AD is an Alumni as the media has reported and donates large amounts of cash. Just media trying to cause problems for Kiffin.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
fire the temp…
al’s biggest mistake was hiring shaman-a-rat to be head coach…
it got us away from the promoting from within philosophy…
my company promotes from within… and the results are very very good…
September 18th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
MR <– Never rooted against the Raiders in his life.
So called “real fans” root against the team at the end of every season, Brien, so we can get a higher draft pick. I’ve never done it. Always believed that finishing a season strong, no matter how bad the team, is the best spring board for the following season. Take up your wishing losses on the team with them. They’re the only ones I’ve seen do it.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Oh no dont get it confuse you still act like a woman no doubt……..Average? Most definitely not………….most black folks here in the east bay dislike Al so….try again
September 18th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
I think the President of Iran could do a better job of running the Raiders. Can we trade him for Al?
September 18th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Yeah right now you are just flat out lying
September 18th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Brien, how would you know what a woman acts like? The only one that talks to you is your mom. Is your relationship that bad?
September 18th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
President of Iran is no worse than the president of this country
September 18th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Brien Says:
September 18th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
President of Iran is no worse than the president of this country
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you don’t see President Ah-made-a-dinner-jacket screwing over his own country so his buddies can make a buck…
i’d say he’s better…
September 18th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn my mother lives in florida………me and my mother are on great terms……….thanks for asking………….now as for yours it is quite obvious things are not running smooth……..you more than likely have an Oedipus complex and that damages things further huh? You may need to find some help little fella
September 18th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
LOL pete
September 18th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Can we get Iran to take Al hostage? Please. How bout Pakistan?
September 18th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Brien…
MR (lives with his mom) is sensitive about talking about his mother…
be cool…
September 18th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Agreed on President of Iran and Bush, Brien. Ademijijad (sp) would have to kill thousands of innocent Americans before he caught up to the number of innocent I-r-a-q-i-s Bush killed. President of Iran is a bad person. I don’t support him. But the truth is he’s not as bad as Bush. Doesn’t have as many murders under his belt. The math doesn’t lie.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Pete I know thus the Oedipus complex
September 18th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I think Al still lives with his mom to cut down on rent. Al didn’t tell anyone yet that she is dead so he can still collect her social security checks. He uses her walker cuz he thought she wouldn’t need it anymore.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I get along fine with my mother, Florida Pete.
Brien’s obvious hatred of women makes me wonder what his relationship is like with his mother. If he says it’s fine, fair enough. It must just be from him being rejected so much by women, then.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Hey MR so we would love to hear the breakdown of the Raiders-Bills matchup………we are still waiting
September 18th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Brien<———doesnt get rejected…….gets chose constantly
September 18th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Al says the Bills will win 51-3 cuz Bo got hurt. Can someone please pick up that damn phone.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Brien, do you honestly think you act like a person who gets “chose constantly” by women? Think anyone would buy that, other than your buddy Florida Pete? Even he doesn’t believe you. He’ll just say he does to make you feel better.
Brien, you’re a lonely soul. It’s obvious. I’ve never claimed to be a pimp or anything of the like, but I know just by reading you that my dating life isn’t nearly as bad as yours.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Hmmm, blog was going along just fine then Brien shows up and it turns into a circus….coincidence?
September 18th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Right MR……….you have a dating life? Highly doubt that
September 18th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Brien, why do you want to hear my breakdown of the Raiders-Bill matchup?
The topic of this blog entry involves Al Davis pissing away his money. I’m more on topic than you are.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
The “willing” Dakota in the house
September 18th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
MR all you ever post is about Al Davis this and Al Davis that……..kool aid this and kool aid that
September 18th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Palin….. Dirty Dirty things to that cougar… roooaar!
September 18th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Sup Dakota……….out there campaigning for the GOP with that slick Joe Dirt mullet?
September 18th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
El Dirty…………you are El Terrible……….but its great!!!
September 18th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
I know I cant help it
September 18th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Brien, I do date. I do alright. But your hatred of women shows me that about the best you do is desperate, unattractive women with insecurity issues. Their mental instability wears you thin, and rather than facing the fact that these women are screwed up, and that they’re the best you can do because you have zero game and look like a bum, it’s easier for you to just tell yourself that all women are like that. They’re not. But you’d never know. You’re in the pool you’re in. My advice to you would be to improve yourself so a better class of women will attract themselves to you.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Brien, the topic of this blog entry has to do with Al’s foolish spending. I’m on topic. Maybe you need to find a new blog, in which the topics are more oriented toward game breakdowns? It just so happens that this blog’s author has the same outlook on Al Davis and you boneheads as I do.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Hatred of women? LOL keep reaching MR……reach on….I’ve met more attractive women with mental instability than the unattractive one……..but a gameless guy like yourself has limited experience with the opposite sex so you wouldn’t comprehend that………yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn to the class thing
September 18th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Funny shhhhhhit I’m getting dating advice from a guy who more than likely hasn’t had sex in the calendar year
September 18th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Entourage sure is on topic………as well as Obama/McCain…yeah you are on topic
September 18th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Yesterday the Shield was the topic of the blog
September 18th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
okay…
new topic…
how many of you think “Dora the Explorer” is hot…
uh-huh…
now go down to the police and turn yourself in…
September 18th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Brien, no matter what anyone here says, nobody can picture you with anything but an unattractive woman with mental issues. It shows in ever assessment you make about women.
Also, you never called me out for talking about Entourage or the Shield. you called me out for not breaking down Sunday’s game, as if THAT’S the topic of this blog entry. this entry’s topic is breaking down how dumb of a spender Al Davis is. So my criticism of Davis is far closer to topic than any breakdown of Sunday’s game.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Good post Dick V (#88). The Raiders are not that far off. If they can get a stud WR in next year’s draft than it will be a whole new ball game.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Yawnnnnnnnnnn MR………..I was referring to the TV shows after you talked about being on topic….. MR no one on this blog can picture you with a woman period
September 18th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
And what a loser you are to have a “bad” dating life living in Sac!!! There are hella women up there………….pitiful
September 18th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Wow, there is so much footbal knowledge on this board it is incredible…..Not!!!
September 18th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
McRaider #484 – i agree
too much of people insulting eachother and posting their political views. not enough talk about Raider football
lame
September 18th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Al Davis would be a perfect inmate at ARKHAM ASYLUM!
LOL!
September 18th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Patron Silver,
Good prediction on the Buffalo game….
September 21st, 2008 at 1:06 pm
same raiders same offense and defensive scheme
losers!!!
May 18th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
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