McFadden as change-of-pace back?

Quick hits from Lane Kiffin’s press briefing following Friday’s walkthrough as the team began boarding buses the airport for their trip to Buffalo:

— Rookie running back Darren McFadden did very little in practice and will need a pain-killing injection to face the Bills Sunday, Kiffin said.

McFadden will be watched closely during warmups, but Kiffin said it would possible Michael Bush could end up being the lead back, with McFadden coming in for a quicker, faster change-up.

The previous day, Kiffin noted that McFadden’s runs were coming in a “big play, little play,” mode rather than as conssitent yards against Kansas City and expressed concern about a possible fumble as his workload increased.

That indicates that for all the talk of curing McFadden’s fumbling problems at Arkansas, he still does not have the trust of the staff in that area.

— Kwame Harris did not practice and will almost certainly be inactive against Buffalo without what Kiffin called “a big comeback.”

That means another road start for Mario Henderson, who with a little help from his friends and coaches, effectively neutralized Chiefs right end Tamba Hali and was not called for a single penalty.

It gets tougher Sunday. Bills right end Aaron Schoebel has flown under the radar of national consciousness for the most part but his 53 sacks are the most in the AFC since 2003, four more than Indianapolis end Dwight Freeney.

— Wide receiver Javon Walker (hamstring) practiced for the second consecutive day and Kiffin said the Raiders hope to get him involved. Of course, “I said that last week, too. We’ll see what happens in warmups.”

— In Week 1, holder Brian Moorman, the Bills punter, threw a 19-yard touchdown pass to Ryan Denney on a fake field goal attempt.

Now all the Raiders have to do is make sure they’ve got the 19 trick plays covered. The Buffalo special teams, coached by Bobby April, are considered among the best in the league and also among the most deceptive.

“They do a lot of stuff,” Kiffin said. “We’ve got 20 different fakes on film over the years from this, and so we have to be on our toes at all times. They’re not afraid to do anything.”

Kiffin said the Bills have displayed trickery even deep in their own territory.

The Week 1 touchdown pass from Moorman to Denney also included a 63-yard punt return by Roscoe Parrish and a forced fumble by Jon Corto which was later converted to a touchdown.

— The acquistion of 6-foot-6, 310-pound Marcus Stroud has dropped an anchor in the middle of the Buffalo defense, and it’s worth noting that the Raiders have had trouble getting untracked with both the run and pass against teams with elite, powerful tackles such as Albert Haynesworth of Tennessee, the Kevin and Pat Williams of Minnesota, and (when healthy) Jamal Williams of San Diego.

Kiffin didn’t attempt to hide his concern for the matchup between Stroud and Cooper Carlisle, the right guard who has been the Raiders most steady lineman since he arrived. Kiffin said Cooper sometimes has trouble holding his own against big tackles with a huge push.

“He’s on Cooper most of the game, and if there’s something that Cooper isn’t very good at, that would be it. He’s 296 pounds, so he does get pushed sometimes,” Kiffin said. “It is a concern for us and we’ve got a plan, but you can pick five plays out of each of those games where he’s just dominating those plays.”

While defending the run, Kiffin said large, physical tackles, prevent the Raiders from hooking linemen out of a play, and that zone blocking works better run away from players like Stroud then running at them.

Stretching the field on them brings in the possibility of a cut block.

“Once you put it in his head guys are going to cut, and they feel that, now they slow down,” Kiffin said.

— Former Raider tackle Langston Walker, who was part of a offensive line that gave up 72 sacks in 2006, has drawn raves from Bills coach Dick Jauron and by all reports seems to have regained the sense of humor and engaging personality he had in Oakland until things went downhill under Art Shell.

Walker even subbed for left tackle Jason Peters on Week 1 and did a solid job, switching back to his familar right tackle spot in Week 2.

Prone to having difficulties with speed rushers in Oakland, Walker will be faced with Derrick Burgess Sunday.

— In case you haven’t seen it, Kiffin has some support in the form of a web page which wants him retained as head coach.


Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • RaiderDogg


    go to pft.com, they have deets on the Troupe signing.

  • Nation Collective-Delicate Flower

    porter is milking the jags too. we would have been screwed either way.

  • La Milicia Negra


    well if you just arrived some 36minutes go, and is our leading WR, then you not totally off..

    As I said last night, I think Lelie is better than Javon.. but it would be great to have both ready..

    That said, those who bashed Lelie and Javon prior to march 2008, should be careful of what they say..

    if you kow what I mean..

  • RaiderDogg

    Nice breakdown Terrapin.

  • La Milicia Negra

    I rather have an injured Javon, than an injured Porter.. Porter would just destroy his surroundings, I don’t think Javon is like that..

  • La Milicia Negra


    # RaiderDogg Says:
    September 20th, 2008 at 9:09 am

    Morning LMN
    or should I say afternoon?

    good evening, I guess =) its 1825 here now =)

  • Nation Collective-Delicate Flower

    so who did we cut to sign him?

  • RaiderDogg

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    September 20th, 2008 at 9:25 am

    # RaiderDogg Says:
    September 20th, 2008 at 9:09 am

    Morning LMN
    or should I say afternoon?

    good evening, I guess =) its 1825 here now =)”

    LMN –

    Well then it sounds about time that you start enjoying your Saturday Night then. I hope you are off work soon.

    I agree with your Porter vs Walker assesment as well.

  • La Milicia Negra


    yup I got home from work, 10 this morning.. my next shift is Monday night..

    But now i’m without debt =) that means the MNF game is payed back now =) finally =)

  • http://fixthebold.com Terrapin

    Denver couldn’t stop the run game. KC couldn’t stop the run game. And now comes Buffalo – maybe they can limit it but I doubt if they can stop it. I would be surprised if they were able to.

    And yes, Denver could not stop our run game. If the game didn’t get so much out of hand you all would’ve been able to see it with more clarity. I saw it during the 1st drive – Fargas was tearing through their defense. Vs KC I saw it on the 1st drive as we were tearing though that defense too.

    Lets hope Bush and DMC can do the same to Buffalo. Tough game man. Tough game.

  • La Milicia Negra

    Flower Power..

    well I haven’t heard anything yet.. there was this guy ‘Was a fan’ he said he knew and that he was pissed about it – well he didn’t like Kiffin either, so I just thin he was an Alpologist..

    But I haven’t heard anything.. yet =)

  • RaiderDogg

    The key to the running game is to run away from Stroud when you can and when you do run at Stround, cut him, cut him and then cut him some more. Get it in his head that we will be cutting him all day long!

  • Exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    McFadden’s skinny legs generate more power than the predraft doubters thought. lol

  • Nation Collective-Delicate Flower

    i think if JR tosses for 175-225+yds 2TDs and with 150-200yds rushing we will win this game. keep them off the field and wear there D down. then the haters on the networks will have to talk up about us.

  • S&B – Nation Collective


    I agree with your assessment about the Raiders being able to run the football. I am sure the game plan assumes mostly 8 and 9 man fronts. The key for the Raiders is two-fold:

    1. Maintain a run-first offense for 4 QTRs — no matter how tough it gets. 1 to 2 yds per rush in the 1st QTR can turn into 5 to 6 yds per rush in the 4th QTR

    2. Rob Ryan has to put together a game plan that pressures the QB, stops the run, and keeps our offense in the game.

    No prediction because I am not comfortable with Rob Ryan’s game planning

  • RaiderDogg

    You know that if the Raiders win it will still be more of the same BS. Even when the Raiders win they still get negative coverage. It will be that way until Al Davis either dies or gets a new heart and brain from the Wizard of Oz.

  • La Milicia Negra


    woaw? i don’t thin JR will throw for more than ~150, and I think we will run for 175-225 combined.. so what I’m saying is switch pass and run, the I agree =)

  • big E

    brutal but nice contrast

  • big E

    Winning three games in row in the NFL is no easy task period, for any team. The bills are due for a loss.

    Media makes EDWARDS the next great thing or everyone the Raiders play the hot new team.

  • Exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Yahoo’s what next in Davis-Kiffin saga:

  • Voldemort

    377 LMFAO your fuggin hilarious dude

  • http://none RaiderNation

    LMN – I’m afraid we will get a whooping tomorrow night.

    Nice prediction LMN. Now I know the Raiders will win. Because you don’t know squat.

    Go Raiders.

  • big E


    Its unlikey will be paaing on the Road in a hostile noisy venue…come on..Raider Lore is filled with false starts.

    We have average at best pass block line that requires RB/FB and TE to stay and help.

    I m not going to even get started with WRS.

    Look for screen passes against a BIlls defense that might over pursue.

    If we have 3rd and long will be setting up punting and field position.

  • big E

    How much is WALKERS hammy costing AL per quarter/game break down? ouch!

  • La Milicia Negra


    why don’t you come with some Ideas of your own, in stead of commenting on what I say?

  • M

    To win in Buffalo I believe that JaMarcus will have to make a significant contribution, not the simple milque toast avoidance of mistakes. Fling the rock around a bit and gain some further confidence.
    Again, as Terrapin wrote,Ryan’s game plan for the D is essentially the key to whether anything on O will even matter.

  • We are screwed

    We cant win with a no O Line and a mediocre D line that the DC refuses to compensate for.

    Al needs to let Kiffin do his job.

    From Silvers SI article. I don’t think Ronnie Lott has a reason to lie:

    Sources who were part of the team say that in the late 1980s and early ’90s Davis ordered Raiders coaches to limit Allen ‘s playing time, often in favor of far less effective runners. Steve Smith and others say that Davis sometimes ordered that quarterbacks not throw the ball to Allen . “The other players had heard so much about this ‘family’ thing, but then we saw what happened to Marcus,” says Ronnie Lott , who played safety for the Raiders in 1991 and ’92. “All of a sudden, the guy who was Mr. Raider wasn’t part of the family. We wondered, How can you not play your best player?”


  • El Dirty

    Did we sign Ben Troupe?

  • La Milicia Negra


  • mcfaddenswaggon

    run dmc

  • El Dirty


  • La Milicia Negra

    I hope it means Bush will see much more action in the 1st Q because I think its a waste of his abilities to first use in lat in 4th Q

  • La Milicia Negra

    El Dirty..

    yes, we did, and no release yet..

  • R8R4FER

    After watching the Chefs game it is apparent that Russell had open lanes to take off and run for good yardage.But, was reluctant for what ever reason. This week I think he will run if its there. that might take some of the pass rush pressure off .

  • El Dirty


    Thanks man…That is HUGE! I know he has had some injury issues and hasn’t lived up to potential but he will free up ZM and we need another catcher cuz our starting WR’s suuuuuuuuuck.

  • R8R4FER

    Bush is our closer when we have our full stable of RBs he can really wear out a tired defense but I’m sure he will be used in a number of ways this week early and often.

  • R8R4FER

    Do we know if Troupe is even activated for this game?

  • La Milicia Negra

    El Dirty..

    totally agree..

    so is it Madsen? who’ll go?

  • La Milicia Negra


    I believe most teams does this at the deadline, not to give up anything at hand to the opposing team.. But I believe he will be..

  • M

    One thing is certain as the Buffys studied last week’s game tape from KC they had to notice that between McDaddy and Mikey, 30 carries 3 fumbles. Hope that is avoidable tomorrow. Let Marshawn do the oops-ing.

    A prayer out to Mr Ronald “Clank” Curry to soften those hands of stone. Give J Russ a break.

  • El Dirty

    I don’t see them cutting Madsen… He is the oh sh!t we f&cked up reserve. I think we lose someone on D to make room

  • La Milicia Negra

    we have many WR’s on roster, 3 TE’s AND wakefield..

  • La Milicia Negra

    new thread..

    its madsen =)

  • http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/floresrd508/mcfaddenball.jpg SouthTexasRaider

    whats up nation…..

    dam i cant wait for tomorrow


  • truppy

    wow! im really impressed with your oakland raiders. the fact that grown men would get upset with being heckeld by some bills fans at the hyatt hotel in buffalo this weekend. i was at a wedding in wich your raiders were staying at and some bills fans attending the wedding wanted to let some raider players know how they felt about them coming into there hometown and in return the raiders got the entire wedding shutdown. man, i guess there paychecks are not big enough to sooth there pain from someone saying “raiders s__k!” i mean, when the raiders go into an oppossing teams stadium and get booed do they decide not to play because there fellings got hurt, they have to be the biggest loosers in the entire nfl. well yeah they are! look at there record recently. i’m not even a bills fan, infact i’m an eagles fan and ill be the first to tell you that if that was a philadelphia hotel, there would of been alot more than a you s__k comment. i hope the bills slauder the raiders sunday and lane kiffin ( who i seen the following moring exiting the hotel, and looks like he could care less about his job) just gives up becuase he realizes hes coaching a bunch of premadonas. what a joke.

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