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Kiffin still here

Reports by ESPN.com and Fox News to the contrary, Lane Kiffin appeared at his weekly press conference Monday, addressed the issue of his job secrurity again and said he has no intention of quitting.

Kiffin said he will continue coaching the Raiders until told otherwise by Al Davis.

More to come later . . .

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  • Ottocrat

    What do the Raiders have in common with an alien chick? 3 boobs. Davis, Ryan, and Kiffin.

  • El Dirty

    Otto

    I would hate but that was funny

  • La Milicia Negra

    Dick V

    post 349..

    “Herrera might have just saved Lane’s job. PFT has been saying that Herrera and Taylor are the only two people Al talks to effectively shutting out any nay sayers. Herrera is gone.”

    LOL, yeah, this going to get exciting.. I thought the same thing =)

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  • dick v

    Lane is the man in Oaland. I think I like him because he does not waver in his philosphies. He has the same beleifs he had when Al hired him. He answered his critics and defended his play calling in the game vs the bills. The timeout/ clock management thing is something he needs to learn still, but other than that i like his approach to running this team.

    He is teaching Jamarcus to be a qb in this league the right way.

    I heard Tim Ryan and Pat Kirwin today talking about Big Ben and the steelers today. They said Ben needs to get the ball out and quit trying to make so many plays: taking hits, and sacks. They said Ben is so big he thinks he can do it all, andnow he is getting beat down. Pittsburg is on pace to give up 74 sacks this season, and Ben is already beaten up.

    Does that sound familliar to what Lane is teaching Jamarcus right now. Jamarcus is learning the right way, and he will eventually become a franchise qb thanks to Lane’s teaching.

    The future is bright nation thanks to Lane and Jamarcus.

  • http://none FIRE KIFFIN

    You guys are in denial.

    Kiffin is gone at the bye.

    Just Win Baby.

  • Big AL’s GOON

    By some of the comments here about kiffin you would think we had this great offense, but we don’t. We have the worst passing game in the NFL. All we can do is run the ball. We converted only 2 out of 12 third downs and this is something to get excited about? Sure Rob Ryan needs to go. We need a change on defense, now. But the offense is just a repeat from last year. All run with no passing game. We will not be successful with Kiffin’s current offense. Ryan and Kiffin can both get lost and never return.

  • darkknight01

    KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT LANE against the tyranny of Al Davis!

  • FFSniper

    Maybe Al is just doing this, not just to teach Kiffin to keep his mouth shut, but to make him more focused. If Kiffin gets sick of the same questions each week then he won’t comment and will just focus on getting the team ready for our opponents each week. It is probably nice of me to think that old senile Davis would be in such a mindset.

  • http://www.us.army.mil texguy

    Keep Kiffin!
    Fire Rob Ryan instead!!!

  • Memo

    I would be laughing my ass of if this were another team; but the fact that the Raiders front office is falling apart is most likely going to affect the way the team plays. I just want to see wins goddamn it! I’m still pissed after yesterday’s game. Kiffin needs to be able to hold personnel accountable; (himself included) but he can’t if he is just as dispensable as the TE coach. No one can take him seriously if management is passing around articles calling Kiffin an a-hole.

    Just for the sake of the team, why don’t they just let Kiffin do his job & take care of the issue like, I don’t know – in the off season? This bull – $hit never stops with this team….

  • Maryland Raiderfan

    Thanks for the posts on herrera one of the only things to laugh about since sunday. Kiff’s a smart guy and proabably has used the advice from Carroll! Keep trying to get our young fb team ready for SD lane! I’m in with you, out with aL!

  • Dakota

    memo!

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Yeah, I think JaMarcus is picking up what Lane is putting down. But, now, teach him how to throw TD’s. Afterall, passing is the QB’s primary job.

  • http://view.playlist.com/12165303563/standalone NATION Collective-408RAIDER

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    # willie Says:
    September 22nd, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Tim k(whatever)is a NINER LOVER,and you guessed it ,a RAIDERS HATER,has been for YEARS!!!!!I dont care what HE says,cant stand any of the Mers reporters,hell,408 will vouch for that FACT
    ——————————–

    Kawakami is a douche bag I wish HERRERA woulda knocked his @ss out.. That woulda been gangsta!

  • RaiderLen

    Hello Nation. Kiffin should stay. If that happens I think We’d all be shocked.

    What is up with RR going soft on the D? I’ve seen this CONSISTENTLY with Him.

    You give the Guy a lead late in a game, and he decides to play that weak ass prevent crap.

    God I hate that. I can live with losing IF You play agressive and smart, as oppossed to SOFT and WEAK.

  • Dakota

    new post

  • R8RPAVER

    go jets: pick for td hell ya

  • Maryland Raiderfan

    just saw a poll on PFT.com, should lane be fired?–No 2045 out of 2757 votes with 437 with no opinion. Even other casual football fans realize this is a circus and al’s acting the clown

  • Memo

    He hasn’t thrown an INT in 3 games; which is good for a QB who is praticaly a rookie.

    Damn it!! That game felt $hitty. sometimes i wish they would be blown out quick; than c0ck teasing me like sunday’s game.

  • darkknight01

    Al Davis will be gone after this year…I can feel it….there is going to overwhelming pressure from the fans for him to step down and hire a TRUE GM.

    The noose is tightening on the old man nation…without a doubt. Everyone keep calling the offices and leave angry voice mails to Al Davis or Herrera or Taylor or Trask!

  • darkknight01

    GO JETS!

  • http://www.contracostatimes.com Leftcoast

    watching the jets and chargers on mnf tell me why cromartie just picked off farve and while returning it for a touchdown, slowed down and waived bye-bye to a pursuing jet player and received no flag? remember the penalty on jlh sunday? more proof that the league and the refs are raider haters

  • Oaktown Raiders

    Rob Ryan DEFENSE broke down. That’s why we’d lost to the Bills. There wasn’t any pressure on Edwards! He’d should of BLITZ after Raiders were up by 9 pts. in the 4th after Higgins TD. I can understand why everyone wants him OUT.

  • M

    My sister just called me and told me that Errol Mann’s girlfriend told my brother-in-law that Kid Kiffie will be fired tomorrow. Good news from Montana.

  • Senile Kings’ Aricept

    ….I wouldn’t be suprised to hear tomorrow that Caveman was forced to use the soft zone because we only have three DT’s on current roster…(Thanks, Al…)…One of them…Tommy Kelly… rehabs with martini’s – another… Turdell Sands… apparently mourns for the loss of his mother by taking quarter hourly processions to his refigerator…Now , I understand that our lone DT bright spot, Warren is hurt….Look, I know that many of us would appear to be capable of eating meat loaf while watching ” Faces of Death”, but I’ve never seen THIS kind of drama , lunacy and averice surrounding a pro sports franchise. If you were to write this s**t as fiction, no one would find it plausible….

  • http://Mrfbking@yahoo.com Fredrick king

    This is becoming a sorry case.Let this young coach, who took over a team that has been losing,and who has stood up and spoke out about things in the Raider organization, and someone in charge does not like it…Coach and continue to give him the tools that will help us win again.
    I have followed the Raiders since 1964 and this hurts to see what has happened the last 6 years. I love Al Davis…but unless you are God…There comes a time you must change the guard and let another that you have groomed…bring the fire and Dedication that he has shown over many years.
    The reports about the firing..the plane ride and no conversation with the coach…Stop this and give the fans what they need…a winner.
    Mr.Davis…it is never to late to learn about life…even at your age. You have fired 2 Super Bowl coaches..that once was in our organization…this young man Kiffin…has a future and he stands up and speaks out…Like a young man that was an assistant under Sid Gillman who took over as coach for the Raiders and in 1964 turned them into a winner.
    Then became the AFL Commisioner and was responsible for the AFL NFL Merger.
    That young man did things that many did not like.. Is name is Al Davis.
    Many may feel that I am out of line for writing this…but I know the Raider way…and when you cross Mr. Davis…this is what happens..the rumors or the silence and then you are out.
    Enough…The court fights..the move to LA..THE Losing…Enough.
    The once proud Raiders are looking like lost people…Pride and poise…what happened to that.
    We have a young team…let them stick together and let coach make the moves that a head coach needs to make…and let him be in control over the staff that is on the field..both sides of the ball.
    There was a time…when you played the Raiders…you knew you were going to be on the losing side.
    I am a Raider..but also honest..you can’t own and coach at the same time…that is why you hire a person to Coach.
    Also all the rumors can be put to rest…Mr. Davis put this stuff to the side and reclaim the Top of the Football world as Champions…That is what is important.

    Fredrick king
    Mrfbking@yahoo.com

  • toneeg

    Davis is senile. If he fires Kiffin another season is wasted. Kiffin will be replaced by the standard Al Davis bobblehead doll. It remains to be seen which yes man will take over. The Raiders should have their own reality show. All this form the “genius” Al Davis. He can’t blame Kiffin for spending millions on turds. Next season he can keep his f’n tickets I’m done.

  • Sharpe

    He’s waiting for the bye week to fire Kiffin…gives the interum coach enough time to establish himself and a game plan for game #5, week #6.

  • Sharpe

    Keep in mind that this is Russell’s 4th start in the NFL. I think that he has looked progressively better. Drops & play calling hasn’t helpped awhole lot. The season is still young. Ryan went from a totally vanilla week #1, to an agressive week #2 (albeit against 3 pitiful QBs), to a great 1st three quarters in week #3. His mistake was letting up, taking off the heat, playing that soft BS prevent crap. Thing is, he learned from week 1 to 2, and from week 2 to 3. Hopefully the mistatke of week 3′s 4th quaarter will not resurface. I gotta tell ya though, he may have been trying to protect D. Hall cause he was being victimized by edwards in the 4th, play after play. It was soon after Hall got beat about 5 times that he put the LBs in coverage and stopped sending the safties.

    Anyway, hopefully, lesson learned.

    The Kiffin thing is troublesome. I hope that Cable, Knapp, & Ryan stay if only for continuity in the new staff. Gotta keep the play book. God forbid, Kiffen be hired as an assistant Shanahan, Norv, or Herm.

    Gotta take the training wheels off of Russell, this week even. Remember Payton was 3-13 his rookie year.

    Anyway, I’d never trade my tickets! Regardless, I #ucking bleed Silver & Black. Nothing will change that. Maybe the end of time.

    Anyway, Go Raiders!

    Haters, suck it!

  • 5er

    hey Blandafan… No idiot (other than you) would risk going for two in that situation. Going up by two scores (9 points) is more critical with only 6 minutes left in the game.

  • VenturaR8R

    DAKOTA Post #78
    That pic is great! !

  • http://www.Raiders.com Oakglenn

    After watching tape of the game, The Raiders defense pitched a SHUTOUT FOR 50+ MINUTES OF A SIXTY MINUTE GAME. A FUKKING SHUTOUT! The only points the Bills scored was the direct result of a Jamarcus Russell fumble where the Bills took over on the Raider 20 yard line and scored six.

    Every single person who posted on this site, saying Ryan and the Defense cost this game, is an undeniable absolute Fukking Moron. What the fukk do you expect???? A defense to go out there and pitch a shut out every game???? UNBELIEVEABLE!! I love that. Posters come in here and say, well the 2001 Ravens and the 1985 Bears uh ya know……you have GOT to be kidding me.

    Watching this game live I thought that was one of the most dominant defensive performances I had EVER seen. And I will bet my life savings I’ve seen more NFL games IN ANY CAPACITY than 99% of the people posting on this site. Once Warren went out early in the fourth, and you put a back up tight end in his place, Wakefield, AT THAT EXACT MOMENT, it was up to Kiffin and the offense to win the game.

    There is 9 minutes to go in the game. I will be right back.

  • toneeg

    Drive for show and putt for dough. Fifty minutes is great but they have to play an entire game. Up by 9 with the Bills deep in their own territory with less than 7 minutes remaining. A good defense does not lose a game in that situation. The defense lost the game pure and simple. You’re delusional if yo think otherwise. The td toss to Higgins should have iced the game.

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    Blandafan Says:
    September 22nd, 2008 at 2:52 pm
    He should not still be there. When you go up 22-14 in half-way through the 4th quarter, you go for a 2-point conversion. 23 gets you nothing more than 22 if you fail.

    /still bitter

    No you don’t on any card in the nfl 2 pt matrix!
    If you don’t convert you turn it into a 1 score game!
    That’s pop warner!

  • section116row11seats12&13

    Rob Ryan the bruti lost this game and should have been left in a dark alley in buffalo!

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    Oakglenn Says:
    R&R lost the game the way he looses most games he is handed a lead in the 4th quarter on!
    17 point in the 4th quarter no turnovers!
    Whay are you sticking up for this bum he is no buddy!
    Or rex for that matter the brains in the family stopped with REX!
    period dot com

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    Sharpe Says:
    September 22nd, 2008 at 8:35 pm
    Keep in mind that this is Russell’s 4th start in the NFL.
    Good point

    I think that he has looked progressively better. Drops & play calling hasn’t helpped awhole lot.

    drops for sure play calling is based on protection

    The season is still young. Ryan went from a totally vanilla week #1, to an agressive week #2 (albeit against 3 pitiful QBs), to a great 1st three quarters in week #3. His mistake was letting up, taking off the heat, playing that soft BS prevent crap.

    I don’t call that a mistake I call it sabatage and he is brutus

    Thing is, he learned from week 1 to 2, and from week 2 to 3. Hopefully the mistatke of week 3’s 4th quaarter will not resurface.

    He has repeated that mistake since he got to Oakland!

    I gotta tell ya though, he may have been trying to protect D. Hall cause he was being victimized by edwards in the 4th, play after play. It was soon after Hall got beat about 5 times that he put the LBs in coverage and stopped sending the safties.

    That’s BS first play of that drive to the last and the rest of the game no heat at all! Also if he wanted to throw D Hall a life line play cover 2 on that side and send the LBS! Ryan gets scared and blows it over and over he is a gas can of a releiver in the the 4th quarter!

    Anyway, hopefully, lesson learned.

    The Kiffin thing is troublesome. I hope that Cable, Knapp, & Ryan stay if only for continuity in the new staff.

    Knapp and Cable are gone at year end if Kiffin is Fired!

    Gotta keep the play book. God forbid, Kiffen be hired as an assistant Shanahan, Norv, or Herm.

    That would be Shannarat 2 the sequal!

    Gotta take the training wheels off of Russell, this week even. Remember Payton was 3-13 his rookie year.

    Well that is if we can protect him!

    Anyway, I’d never trade my tickets! Regardless, I #ucking bleed Silver & Black. Nothing will change that. Maybe the end of time.

    I respect that I won’t either but if Kiffin get’s fired Al needs to wheel his rusty old walker down and coach this team himself!

    Anyway, Go Raiders!

    Haters, suck it!

    Go Raiders beat the Bolts!

  • http://Mrfbking@yahoo.com Fredrick king

    Another thing that is bothering me is the defensive game plan. Ist game vs.Denver…we had no clue and they had us off balance. Next game vs.Kanas city very aggressive and still almost let them back in the game…a game and a team that has not won in 11 or 12 games.
    The Bills game was ours…you must be aggressive. They were getting strong play up front and was dominating the game..until the 4th.Prevent defense prevents you from winning. Look at the Eagles vs The Steelers…Pressure over and over.
    You made that young QB for the Bills look like he was Unitas…If we played the way we had played earlier…we win.
    Kiffin can’t go and talk to Ryan and ask…”What the hell is going on”…This has to stop.
    We have found ways to lose and yes Kiffin is 5 and 14…but remember what he picked up when he joined the team.
    Now you have 3 great young backs…Russell must be allowed to be a QB…That means throw the ball to the wide outs and bring back the Tight end to this offense.
    The great Raider teams always had great tight ends..Billy Cannon,Chester,Casper,Christansen…were has that arsenal gone.
    The offensive line is opening holes and that is great….but until Russell is passing the ball more they can’t develop a feel for where he is in the pocket.
    The team must get back to being consistent in winning games and what ever is going on in this Organization need to change and that is real.
    One of the Executives for the Raiders in the face of the media and angry…if it happened years ago…you the fan never knew it…he telling him to get his F…… hands off me…Professional…Pride and Poise… Does it still live in the Organization.
    They may read this and feel I am wrong…Look at our record since the Super Bowl loss…The 2 Coaches we fired that won Super Bowls…the Great players who came here and it almost ended there playing days…This was the place everybody wanted to come…This was the place that turned losers into winners. Plunket played for the Patriots when he came in the league.then was considered washed up with the Niners…Then he came to Oakland and was given the chance to play for them when Dan Pastorini was hurt vs. the Redskins…The rest is History and 2 Super bowls later he is a future Hall of famer.

    There are many more that when they put on that uniform there life changed. I want to see that again and you may also feel that I am rooting for Kiffen…The truth is I feel If you give a man a job…let him do it.

    I am a Raider that has had enough of losing…the law suits,the moving,the rumors the firing and some hiring of coaches. I Remember seeing Art Shell as a kid…I still feel he is the Greatest Tackle to play…you could not beat him…but he was not head coach material…Management yes…not head coach.
    I always felt he wanted Art because he was a yes man..no disrespect to Mr.Davis or Art Shell…but this is how I feel.He hired him twice…other great coaches would not come to Oakland under Mr.Davis…He wants to own and Control….Let a man do his job.
    Gruden….Remember him…young,work around the clock..aggressive…the team was winning.
    I am tired of coaches taking all the blame…If you give a Captain a Ship..make sure it has no holes in it…so he won’t sink.

    Fredrick king
    Mrfbking@yahoo.com
    If you want to contact me..I welcome it.

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    toneeg Says:
    September 22nd, 2008 at 8:12 pm
    Davis is senile. If he fires Kiffin another season is wasted. Kiffin will be replaced by the standard Al Davis bobblehead doll. It remains to be seen which yes man will take over. The Raiders should have their own reality show. All this form the “genius” Al Davis. He can’t blame Kiffin for spending millions on turds. Next season he can keep his f’n tickets I’m done.

    This is all over Al’s fing ego not the performance of the coach!
    EGO!
    F his ego I don’t want to flush the season away!
    We are still in it!
    But he probably will make a change at the buy and we play the heart of the weekest part of our schedule!

  • section116row11seats12&13

    6 more wins and close ones 2 of the 6 gets us to 9 wins could be good enough to make the wild card!

    close game the Saints have no D!

    @ New Orleans Saints CBS
    Sunday, October 19 1:15 PM

    The Jets that’s a Win
    New York Jets CBS
    Sunday, October 26 10:00 AM

    That’s a Win!
    @ Baltimore Ravens CBS
    Sunday, November 2 1:15 PM

    That’s a win!
    Atlanta Falcons FOX
    Sunday, November 9 1:05 PM

    Close one
    Carolina Panthers FOX
    Sunday, November 16 10:00 AM

    That’s a win!
    @ Miami Dolphins CBS
    Sunday, November 23 1:05 PM

    Revenge factor!
    @ Denver Broncos CBS
    Sunday, November 30 1:15 PM

    That’s a Win
    Kansas City Chiefs CBS
    Thursday, December 4 5:15 PM

    Close 1
    @ San Diego Chargers NFLN
    Sunday, December 14 1:15 PM

    Close 1
    New England Patriots CBS
    Sunday, December 21 1:05 PM

    That’s a win!
    Houston Texans CBS
    Sunday, December 28 10:00 AM

    close 1
    @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers CBS

  • section116row11seats12&13

    This is with Kiffin still here!

  • jankinz
  • http://InsidetheBayArea.com BUCKEYE RAIDERS FAN

    I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS DC RYAN THREW THE GAME TO SABOTAGE KIFFIN BECAUSE HE IS STILL BITTER THAT KIFFIN WANTED HIM FIRED.HES A EGOMANIAC THAT PUT HIS AGENDA AHEAD OF THE TEAM WIN IS THAT THE KIND OF COACHING THAT IS GOING TO BRING US BACK TO RESECTABILITY I SURELYDONT THINK SO!!!! COACH RYAN SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HIMSELF

  • http://aol ns41

    Maybe Al is dead and its Weekend at Bernie’s.

  • S&BinDC

    For everyone calling for Kiffin’s head because his offense is “conservative”:

    Are we on the same planet? Watching the same games? What offensive “weapons” does Kiff have, exactly? Whom can he UNLEASH on the offense?

    Let’s see: Two rookie backs, a mostly-rookie QB. Useless road apples at wideout like Walker. An offensive line anchored by the functionally-retarded likes of Gallery and Henderson.

    Summary? Total crap offense.

    The defense, however? Nnamdi on one side, DeAngelo on another, a solid backing corps in the middle, safety help with Wilson, a Pro Bowl-caliber end in Burgess, etc.

    The fact that Kiff manages to score at all, to say nothing of scoring enough to actually LEAD the game in Buffalo is, frankly, AMAZING.

    Meanwhile, Rob Ryan with all his “influence” and “the players love him” and his “defensive weapons” manages, TIME AND AGAIN, to bag the game.

    Give Kiffin a chance with an offense something better than Contra Costa High. But, for the love of God, send Ryan packing.

  • Fire Al Davis

    Mr. King #378: I applaud your thoughts. Thank you for saying what many of us feel.

  • aaronraider13

    I can’t believe people actually take what BSPN says seriously. Last week he was getting fired for sure!!!
    After that why would i listen to anything they have to say? They are the national enquirer of sports. Nothing more. Monday thru thursday he’s getting fired. Friday he’s getting ready for the Bills. Ri-ght.

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    Blandafan Says:
    September 22nd, 2008 at 2:52 pm
    He should not still be there. When you go up 22-14 in half-way through the 4th quarter, you go for a 2-point conversion. 23 gets you nothing more than 22 if you fail.

    /still bitter

    ——————————————————
    8 points is only a one score lead (TD + 2pt conv.)

    9 points is a 2 score lead….infinitely better position.

    /u r still bitter and mistaken

  • darkknight01

    Ryan going vanilla and soft toward the end was the COWARD way of calling a defensive game and surely cost us the game.

    Defenses are supposed to win games and championships….anybody in here really think Ryan was going to lead the defense for one last stop? I knew it was over as soon as we punted.