Warren, Carlisle hurting
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, September 22nd, 2008 at 5:43 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Aside from the continuing saga of coach Lane Kiffin, the most significant news had to do with injuries which could cost the Raiders two starters for their game against the San Diego Chargers Sunday at the Coliseum.
Defensive tackle Gerard Warren, who has been Oakland’s most dominant interior defender, has a torn pectoral muscle (it was originally identifed as a neck injury against the Bills). Right guard Cooper Carlisle, who left the game against the Bills and returned, has an ankle injury and may not practice this week.
While most coaches do their best to mask the seriousness of injuries, here is what Kiffin said regarding the Raiders two injured players.
Regarding Warren: “That could be a serious issue for us.”
Regarding Carlisle: “It’s bad.”
Not coincidentally, with Warren out of the game, the Raiders faded down the stretch against the Bills. That leaves Tommy Kelly and Terdell Sands as the two remaining tackles. Kiffin also counts Fred Wakefield as a third tackle, but in reality Wakefield is a tight end/offensive lineman/defensive end who only recently began playing tackle.
The Raiders can also move Jay Richardson inside.
If Warren’s injury is for the longterm, the Raiders will be on the lookout for available tackles. It is doubtful anyone could be brought in this week to have an impact.
Carlisle was replaced in the lineup by Chris Morris, who would assume the starting role if Carlisle can’t play. The Raiders prefer to use Paul McQuistan exclusively on the left side.
(Correction: McQuistan, of course, is on injured reserve and out for the year. Brainlock after nine hours of travel headed home from Buffalo . . . thanks to those who pointed out the error)
Another injury of note belongs to Derrick Burgess, who has having an MRI for an triceps injury. Kiffin said it is conceivable Justin Fargas could rest another week, giving him two more weeks, including the bye, before returning to action.
Missed the locker room session while returning from Buffalo, making it just in time for Kiffin’s press briefing _ where the surprise guest was none other than Lane Kiffin.
Some quick hits:
– If the Raiders hope to get Kiffin to resign, it sounds as if they’re wasting their time.
“There’s no way I’m quitting, and that’s got nothing to do with money, at all,” Kiffin said. “That has to do with our players. I talked a lot of these players into coming here at some point – obviously, money has a lot to do with that – in free agency over the last two years. A lot of our coaches, I recruited them and their families to come here and build this thing together. So the last thing I’m ever gonna do is quit, the way that you guys are talking about quitting or even quit behind closed doors, as far as my energy or my passion towards getting this thing turned around.
“Because I believe we can turn this thing around. And there’s a lot of good things going the right direction, and I think we’re gonna turn it around.”
– Kiffin said he hasn’t spoken to Al Davis since before the Denver game and doesn’t feel it is his place to walk into his office and ask for a definitive statement one way or the other.
“There’s so many things to worry about running an NFL team and keeping this team together and coaching it, and our staff, that I’m not about to tell Al how he should be handling this situation,” Kiffin said. “He’s been doing this for a long time, has had great success in the league for a long time. I’ve got enough things to worry about, so I don’t need to worry about telling him how he should handle it. He’ll do what he feels in the best interest of our team, I’m sure.”
That was almost a compliment. He even called him “Al” instead of “the owner.”
– For those keeping score, ESPN and Fox Sports had Kiffin fired as soon as today, the NFL Network said Kiffin would make it through today but that Tuesday is a possibility.
– The bottom line? “Until Al Davis tells me I’m not the head coach, I’ll keep plugging away.”
– The bitter end against the Bills failed to serve as some sort of revelation that the Raiders ought to open things up offensively.
In fact, Kiffin sounds as stubborn as ever.
He talked about playing to position punter Shane Lechler in the fourth quarter and conceded, “It’s very foreign to me. That’s not the way I would want to manage a game. But it is where we’re at right now. And there’s no doubt in my opinion managing the game that way with the way we were playing gave us the best chance to win.”
– Linebacker Thomas Howard told reporters in the locker room Kiffin came to the back of the plane to talk over the game with Nnamdi Asomugha and Kirk Morrison.
– Kiffin said he expected everyone to be hurting with the end result.
“If you’re feeling good about yourself in this organization after that, then you’re not our type of guy,’’ Kiffin said. “Every person should be feeling they could have done something better. I know that’s the way I feel.’’
But he also found the silver lining in the black cloud in stepping up against a difficult opponent on the road.
“I compare that to last year, basically two similar situations where we went on the road, long trips, and that was Green Bay and Jacksonville, two playoff teams that we had to go on the road and play them in a tough environment, and we got handled pretty well,” Kiffin said. “As opposed to yesterday, where we outplayed them, we’re up by two scores with six minutes left. Once again, no one is pleased with the outcome or the way we finished. There are no moral victories, but I do like the direction that we’re going.”
– Kiffin credited Buffalo with speeding up the tempo on the Raiders defense with a “hurry-up, sperad out” situation and cited missed tackles as a culprit in the eventual demise.
If you’re looking for him to say they should have been blitzing . . . sorry. Kiffin said he leaves the defense to Rob Ryan but didn’t seem to have a problem with the strategy.
“Naturally you’re gonna be more conservative on defense in that situation, up by two scores, you’re gonna feel better about letting them complete five-yard passes and making a tackle,” Kiffin said. “And all of a sudden you miss a couple of those tackles and they go for 15, 20 yards now, where before you’re trying not to let ‘em get a five-yard completion. That happens a lot of times, and it happened in that game. And unfortunately, it happened fast.”
– Running back Darren McFadden said again he was unaffected by the turf toe injury against Buffalo _ he slipped at least four times _ but Kiffin ins’t so sure.
“Hardly anybody else had any issues with it but him so I’d be surprised if it wasn’t having to do with his toe,” Kiffin said.
– Film review indicated to Kiffin that Gibril Wilson deserved his 15-yard personal foul against Josh Reed.
“From what I saw on the film Gibril deserved to be thrown out. He clearly punched the guy. I don’t know what happened before that because you can’t see it on the film. I’d love to protect him in this situation but there’s no reason for that,” Kiffin said. “No matter what’s happened before there’s
no reason for that and it hurt us. It hurt us with field position and it hurt us by not having him in there. We’re playing Branch, a rookie, instead of a guy who’s one of the highest paid guys and one of the keaders of our defense. I don’t like the decision that he made. I’m sure
Gibril regrets it as well.”
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September 22nd, 2008 at 5:45 pm
first
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:47 pm
I miss Kiff already.
Just Win Baby.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:49 pm
rivers just got picked for 6! ufck yeah! Lets go jets!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:50 pm
repost
# willie Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Tim k(whatever)is a NINER LOVER,and you guessed it ,a RAIDERS HATER,has been for YEARS!!!!!I dont care what HE says,cant stand any of the Mers reporters,hell,408 will vouch for that FACT
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Kawakami is a douche bag I wish HERRERA woulda knocked his @ss out.. That woulda been gangsta!
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Thank God. Now you can read the words out of Kiffins mouth. He convinced players to come to the Raiders and he hired coaches as well. KIffin doesn’t need full control of everything to be successful. Most coaches don’t have full control of their teams yet they still do better than Kiffin. Tomlin with Pitt. Wise. with Arz. Even old Chucky doesn’t have full control of Tampa. Lanes Daddy was a hold over and untouchable. However, I wish Big AL would touch Ryan and get his azz up out of here. And Lane you can follow.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:54 pm
wow
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Raider Nation – we have a coach that could lead us to a bright future. I do not think Lofton or anyone else can do any better. Remember Knapp is out of here at the end of the year – what will that do to Jamarcus if Kiffin is fired and Knapp leaves. Our number one pick will be forced into a new system that will definitely lead him down “bust avenue”.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
I TOLD YOU CHARGERS LOSE!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Kiffn is the man to turn the team arund. He is standing tall and showing he is the leader and coach that will rise the phoenix from the ashes.
Gerard Warren and Carlisle are big hits; however, Morris is a solid player and he will step up. Sands, Richardson, Kalimba, Wakefield, Scott all have to step up maybe even Sam williams who played DE in college. That is how winning teams do it. Wakefield is a winner to me. Good teams need these type of players to step up when adveristy hits and injuries mount. Keep you head up nation.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:57 pm
#5 Who would you replace Kiffin with Goon?
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:58 pm
GOON-
Who do you expect Kiffin to have brought in? With a team in such disarray, I’d say he did pretty good with coaches like Knapp. And players? Unless they come for the cash – as he suggested – good luck. And we see how brilliantly Al worked that angle this offseason.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Kiffin will only get better.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Jerry – Nothing on John Herrera hurting? No? C’mon!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Jerry Mac, thanxs for the Fix.
And, eff u mod.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Lowery repping SAN JOSE STATE!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:02 pm
That was a nice pass by Rivers. You have to feel good that Russell isn’t making decisions and bad throws like that.
If we have trouble disciplining players, they should put it in their contract and fine them for stupid penalties such as taunting and unsportsman like conduct calls. Once players start losing money they will be more disciplined.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:02 pm
El Dirty Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
I TOLD YOU CHARGERS LOSE!!!
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That’s fine if htey lose as long as rivers and kading give me 21 points (wishing). lol
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:03 pm
909
yep the m o d loves the co ck
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:04 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:40 pm
nation brothers…..come on guys…. there is 13 games left to play.
you live it to learn it…..
2-2 into bye week
2-1 in the division…
8-8 maybe even 9-7
RAIDER NATION IS ON THE RISE AND WILL BE LAUGHING LAST!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:04 pm
RaiderMight its me Vs you next week in FF! Good luck bro
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Thanks for the update Jerry. Worth the wait.
Too bad about all the injuries. I guess with Coop’ down means we are passing even less in SD. Two backups playing on our o line.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:05 pm
I have to make some adjustments. Start playing some of my backups instead of these “stars”. Maybe i give you a better fight than Dirty.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Dang 408, you really whooped BADBOYZ, 93 to 40. lol He’s got 3 chargers on his roster that he’s depending on.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:07 pm
HOW CAN YOU FIRE THIS GUY? I MEAN LISTEN TO HIS PASSION!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Why is every 1 b1tching about JLH’s penalty? It was off set by the unnecessary roughness on the defender who got torched.. Bone head move I admit but It didnt cost us field position as some in here are claiming!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:08 pm
P.S. I suck and need to fade away!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Burning River,
You can come better than that can’t you? The lies have been that Kiffin has no power. Now he tells you that he did infact have the power to bring in people that he wanted. Now you can try to spin that as much as you want but the truth is the truth and Kiffin finally told it. Kiffin admitted that he was instrumental in bringing in both players and coaches something that most here said was only done by Big AL.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I am a senile old man who is going to ruin this team further than I already have.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Well, looks like we’ll see what happens tomorrow – Kiffin has held his tounge in so far the last couple of weeks and I can’t imagine Al firing him on a Wednesday – If not tomorrow, then our next window is Sunday after the Charger game – if we lose and are 1-3, Al will fire him. If we win, Kiff stays until the Raiders are out of the playoff picture – if we can remain competitive for a while, the extra time might allow these wounds to heal.
Moving forward, Denver looks offensively dominant and there’s not much of a chance for us to match their offensive output head to head – they are clearly the class of the division so far, and they’ve done it enough this year to assume they’re legit. We must take advantage of San Diego, and turn that corner – they look weak and LT’s window appears to have closed. With a loser leader like Rivers at the helm and a p*ssy head coach, that team should implode quite nicely. If we can sweep the Dolts and and Quiefs, continue to improve (hopefully last week convinced Ryan he needs to blitz and play 8 in the box for 4 quarters, especially with Warren out of there) our schedule is still soft enough for us to pick up a wild card given the demise of the Pats, Colts, Dolts, Browns, etc. I said we had 14 winnable games this year (giving 1 to the Dolts and 1 to the Pats), and I now say we have 12 more winnable games this year, conceeding the next one to the Donkeys and taking back the one to the dolts and the one to the Pats. A few of them are tough, including the Saints and Bucs, but we play the Saints after the bye and the Bucs at the end of the year when they may sit their starters, so we have a better chance than we normally would.
In essence we beat the Bills on the road despite the score, so we’re looking much better. Thought I’d get back to football instead of Kiffin talk.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:09 pm
I have my complaints about Kiffin…but I give him a lot of cred… his recent statements solidified his ( as if it needed to be ) standing with “his” team… We do have a good nucleus … we can beat the chargers…especially after they shot their wawd tonight trying to beat Bret. yeah I feel it… 2-2… 2-1 in the division… Stop hating… it’s one thing to be upset with a loss… we all are or should be… it’s another thing to hate…just to hate… we get enough of that in the bay area for our team… haters… just to hate… look at the local papers when both bay area teams win or lose… we still get the crap coverage… I hope Al and Lane both get the last laugh… yet… I’m a “fan” so what would you expect.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:09 pm
STR! and memo! the same day!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:09 pm
He sure does talk a great game. Too bad he can’t coach one. Buffalo fans are killin me.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Go Jets
dinner time, take care all.
#4 is breaking my ballz
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:10 pm
I will fire Kiffin who will take over the coaching position at Kansas City and will whip my a$$ the way Mike Shana-rat has done all these years.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:10 pm
LOL… PFT got the story now =)
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:12 pm
RaiderMight
yeah I only have jones playing for me tonight so I’m keeping my fingers crossed. Thec killed me on Monday Night last week when I thought I had 1 in the bag!
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Haven’t played Dirty yet and im 0-2 so Im hopeing to get my first win!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:13 pm
GOON,
Yeah, Kiffin had some power last year. Al gave him some opportunities. And then they won 4 games. I don’t think anyone will call that success.
BUT – consider the circumstances. And consider where Kiffin was coming from. What do you expect of the guy? If you’re going to hire a coach like that, with a roster of young guys and 2nd string guys starting, you’ve got to be willing to give it time. Without all the drama this year, and with a little health, I think we could have seen 6 wins. Not great, but a little better all the time, right? Now, even if we win 4 or 5, I could see us regressing next year under some retread coach. Is this what you want to happen?
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:13 pm
I guarantee that “if” Big AL does fire Kiffin he will not get another HC job in the NFL anytime soon. Kiffin coaching the Chefs. HA-HA-HA!! I wish. No, we all should wish.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Lane is my guy and all, but I have to say that I am little dissapointed that he has not really expanded the Wild Hog yet. Ronnie Brown just shocked the NFL with Miami’s Wild Porpose. DMAC NEEDS TO GET AT LEAST 20 touches. The wild hog allows this to happen. I know lane is focusing on his saving grace ” the maturation Jamarcus Russell”, but he now has to start paying more attention to Dmac and his touches. Al will start focusing on this issue and start bringing heat at his young coach for DMAC’s touches. Lane is untouchable with his handling of Jamarcus for the rest of the year, but Dmac not getting 20 ttouches is a big issue that needs to be pushed.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Post #24 – Kiffin is showing a lot of passion…isn’t that what Al Davis wants? A coach that has passion for the Raiders?
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:16 pm
“I’m sure Gibril regrets it as well.” You mean you havent even talked to him about it yet? Any other coach would have chewed his azz out by now.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:17 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:10 pm
LOL… PFT got the story now =)
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Ahahahaha! Looks like brown noser is in trouble too!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:18 pm
I dont know what the raiders will look like once Kiff is fired. We have to keep a similar system for the players (esp JR). Hopefully all of the assistant coaches are under contract. I thought Keff brought most of those offensive coaches in (like Tom Cable).
I would like to see Knapp become HC.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Fuk Fuk Fuk
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:20 pm
If Al thought Kiffin was gonna take the steaming pile of @#$% that Was left by Noevell,Art AND Himself, and turn it around in a Year or two, then AL needs to check His meds.
So now that AL has discovered that “Lance” has a mind of his own and Opinions AND Philosophies on how to get it done, He’s gonna can Him.
Fkking Perfect. Way to go AL.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:20 pm
I say fine them for stupid penalties like that, and they will stop committing those penalties.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Goon,
I like how you stick up for me! You really do sound as stupid as the actions I take! I can tell we both are from the same mold. Can I hire you to take me out, then you can do the same to yourself?
p.s. Kiffin will haunt us, mark my word…
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:23 pm
WTF The video isnt up yet!
TD Jets
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:24 pm
THAT WAS AWESOME!
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/22/herrera-kawakami-nearly-rumble/
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:24 pm
#46…Wilson lost His composure due to frustration. (We gonna lose) He’s gotta maintain composure, and after winning the game play the scoreboard card.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Say’s you. I don’t see anything but a 1 and 2 record. All that hoping and wishing crap is for Dionne Warwick and the psychic friends people. This is football not child rearing 101. I could care less about the dreaded “D” word (development), which I think is worst than the “P” word (potential). Championships are won ever year while your team is developing.
So what happens when that magic time/number is up and the players you’ve been waiting on don’t develop the way you thought they would? What? Start over right? So more of the same, losing. No thanks. Again, Ryan can walk and since he’s been with the Raiders longer he can show new comer KIffin the way out as well. I’d rather take my chances with a retread but real NFL coach.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:28 pm
This the Kiffin that I had hoped for all along, one that accepts the head coaching position in Oakland for what it is and not what he dreamed a head coaching job should be. He stood up for Al in the interview and admitted to having more control in player personnel than I have ever heard from him. For the players and Raider fans alike its too bad Kiffin did not give the kind of committment to the organization that he ask of the players. I was hoping that Kiffin would be trooper, pay his NFL dues as a rookie headcoach and get the Raiders back to their winning ways. They say winning is everything, but for me loyalty and commitment to a team come first and when the hardwork translates into winning, victory is that much sweeter.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:28 pm
What exactly did Herrera say about Jerry McDonald in that video…I didn’t quite catch it????
anyone?
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:29 pm
This is not good.
Who do we have left?
Looks like we’ll be missing:
– 3/6 of our top o-linemen.
– A starting DT. One of only 3 DTs on the roster.
– Our starting running back
With also bagned up/possibly out:
– Our best pass rusher
– Our most explosive offensive weapon
– Our $11 million per year WR
Oh, and we’ll possibly be switching head coaches right before or after immediately this game against a division rival we haven’t beat in years and risk slipping to 1-3 before the bye.
Really makes that choke job against Buffalo sting even more.
SH!T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Games are won on the line and it’s unfortunate that just when the o-line is getting better on their zone blocking we loose possibly two 0-linemen.
Daniel
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Tim Kawakami from the San Jose Mercury news is a Raider hater, and a 49er lover . It appeared to me that he deliberately tried to bait Herrera into hitting him after Herrera called him on his irresponsible coverage of the Raiders. Guess now I will be banned again.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:37 pm
ROB RYAN’S REFUSAL TO BLITZ IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF EVERY GAME IS THE REASON WE KEEP LOSING.
I hope he burns in hell!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:37 pm
I watched the exchange betweek Tim and Herrera. That wasnt an almost fight. The most there was was some finger waggin by Herrera. Nobody had to seperate them and there wasnt even much yellin betweeen the two.
The media definitely blew that one out of proportion.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:38 pm
A lot of injuries this year. If Kiffin is fired in the middle of the season I will quit watching football till Davis is gone. I refuse to watch another team. Raiders till I die.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Dakota – Herrera said that rumor was apparently started by Jerry McDonald.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:39 pm
I don’t like teams falling back on this excuse, but it must be considered that this team is seriously being undermined by injuries right now. our 1st and 2nd string WR’s have been essentially out for the whole season, our starting RB is out, starting FB is out, starting DT is out, starting LT is out, starting RG is out…All teams deal with it, but we are definitely getting more than our fair shake this year, and that is exactly what the Jaguars used as an excuse after losing to Buffalo. Sadly, some of these guys are already done for the season, but getting Walker, Fargas, and Harris back at 100% is really gonna help this team. Combined with the development of Russell and hopefully maintaining continuity, and this team could be a spoiler this year.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Lets get off this TMz crap.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:47 pm
they took the end off… I got to watch it once and when I clicked again it didn’t show the end.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:47 pm
If AD fires Kiffin, Please Do whatever you can to convince the CORRECT people that AD is MORE concerned with his control over people and he does NOT care for the Team.
Watch Kiffin’s Press Conference on Comcast Sports Network….he reminds me of a YOUNG AD..Kiffin wants to WIN & he’s outspoken & he LOVES this team!!!!
GO Raiders
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:48 pm
TODAY’S WORD IS D-I-S-F-U-N-C-T-I-O-N-A-L
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Where is this fight??? I watched the video like 5 times and only heard someone (herrera) say “not true”…is there a link for any footage of herrera and tim actually fighting/arguing??
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:51 pm
there was not anymore, herrera must have made a phone call, what a tool.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Totally different subject matter: Tomlinson’s “shaded” visor. I believe that LT’s visor should be illegal. I would think that it gives him an extra advantage. The defenders can’t see his eyes. Might explain why he’s more elusive than others. If a defender can read your eyes they can better defend. That works on QB’s so no reason to believe that the same would hold true for RB’s. Maybe we should equip our entire offense with shaded visors. Even if they didn’t improve, they’d be looking cooool…
Damn, another Charger TD. They are starting to pull away from NY.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:52 pm
that little chinaman was going to go mr. miagi on him
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Rob Ryan should be FIRED! Not Kiffin, the idiot play NOT to lose in the 4th with his watered soft zone! The Bills took advantage of it and won the game!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Whats up with Herrera saying Jerry Mcdonald distributed the ESPN column the other day? What are your thoughts on this Jerry? Herrera is pretty much the dumbest executive in America…….Callahan is probably laughing by now…
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:57 pm
How could that scrub Rob Ryan call the dogs off after the 3rd quarter.Why not keep the pressure going.If it ain’t broken don’t fix it.Rob Ryan is clearly undermining Lane Kiffin by doing something like that.Rob Ryan knows that Al Davis has his back and not Lane Kiffins back.Rob Ryan is still holding a grudge against Lane Kiffin for trying to get him fired in the off season,trust that!! What ashame What ashame.Rob Ryan should be the one that’s fired A.S.A.P!!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Did they really crop that video? that’s some old school raiders stuff right there.
Too funny. Can’t wait for Jerry’s comment on it.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:01 pm
yes there is video on herrera fighting on pft!!!!!! after lane talks
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Al Davis has not spoken to the media all season, he has not spoken to Kiffin since BEFORE the Denver game. So where is all this speculation coming from?? John Herrera. The much talked about article that was distributed during the press conference (by Herrera) was only criticizing some of Kiffin’s less tactful mouthing-off, and lo and behold, Kiffie has been on his best behavior lately. Then Herrera denies passing out the article, and gets in an argument with a reporter. This whole thing stinks, these Kiffin rumors have been floated after both games, only to be retraced once Kiffin makes it through the day. It’s just guess work, so far the only quote I have heard that sounds bad is this ominous “he’s not the guy I hired” quote which was supposedly from mid-august, but nobody heard until September. WTF. I think its time the NFL starts investigating John Herrera’s relationship with Al Davis, he could be pushing the old man’s buttons for his own purposes.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:02 pm
408RAIDER,thanks for confirming that the mercury is a 49er lover/leaning paper,cant stand them.In fact,Nancy Gay will respond to emails(HEATED),at least she will listen to BOTH sides of a debate(sfchron),anyway,RAIDERS 2-2 after SUN
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Where is this video????? The ones I have seen dont show jack???
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:06 pm
pft web page……
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:08 pm
post56,you nailed it,as they say ,consider WHERE THE INFO COMES FROM
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:10 pm
it won’t let me post the stupid link…..
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:10 pm
My sister just called me and told me that Errol Mann’s girlfriend told my brother-in-law that Kid Kiffie will be fired tomorrow. Good news from Missoula!
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:11 pm
If Al fires Kiffin, we r screwed anyway. Yes the defensive players love Ryan, but Kiffy has quite a few n his corner too. Knowing after the collossal meltdown n Buff, he now has to overcome a defense that can only play effectively 4 3 quarters, Kiffin will adjust his offensive schemes to compensate. I hope. And by the way coach, if you ignore Zach Miller ever again, i personally will drive from my home n Shasta co., and beat the PEE-PEE out of you.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Warren is likely done. A torn pectoralis major requires surgery and six weeks in sling followed by rehab. I tore my pec and it took about four months to get back. There is no way to forgo surgery until the end of the season. It is impossible to play with.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:12 pm
guys you have to admit the way our oganization handles things is a joke! and very embarassing……..
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Fire Rob Ryan!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Dirty,
El Dirty 84
Who Passed the Wind 85
Ok its time for the jets to kick some arse.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Got the video…the original was edited to not include the argument (prob legal reasons). Anyways that have a new video on PFT site that only encompasses the altercation.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Texguy,
Al is so far gone that not only will Rob Ryan not get fired…He will be headcoach!
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Al Davis is so absent minded.He should have Sued That BUM Bill Callahan for what I believe throwing the SuperBowl against Tampa Bay.How could you not change the offense that the opposing coach Jon Gruden built.I’m still Pissed at that.Then the next year Bill Callahan had almost every Raider ready to hurt him saying This is the stupidest team out there or something like that.Which proves his hate for Al Davis and the Raider organization.God don’t like ugly and I said it then and I’ll say it now Jon Gruden won’t ever win another SuperBowl as an N.F.L. head coach.Callahan is gone Nebrasksa said See Ya to him.He screwed them up and they still haven’t recovered the funny thing is that we the Raiders haven’t recovered from having Bill Callahan as a coach.I can’t stand him or Gruden.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:20 pm
RaiderMight
U wooped me in 2 quarters ugh!
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:21 pm
I would have rather lost you than to see the dolts win, but seems like its headed that way.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:21 pm
VIDEO OF HERRERA, KAWAKAMI SQUABBLE DISAPPEARS
http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/
(Watch this video)
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Gerrard warren,….burgess likely to miss san diego too,…press conf chaos,…this pirate ship has sunk,..this is the lowest I have ever witnessed,..sickening,..san diego will pound the raiders into yet another humiliation,…and i am not caring much anymore…heck with it,..the raiders staff and all the players and coaches are all losers…period…keepin it real.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:23 pm
HERRERA, KAWAKAMI NEARLY RUMBLE
Posted by Mike Florio on September 22, 2008, 8:49 p.m.
The situation in Oakland would be hilarious if it weren’t so damned tragic. And though we’ve generally laughed at suggestions that the NFL should seize control of the franchise for the good of the league, we’re starting to think that maybe a hostile takeover would be a good idea.
Here’s the latest development. With vultures circling the still-coaching carcass of Lane Kiffin, Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News nearly got into a fight with Raiders exec John Herrera, one of the few members of the organization with whom owner Al Davis is now speaking.
By way of background, someone from the Raiders distributed to members of the local media last week a hard copy of an ESPN.com article that was critical of Kiffin. It is widely believed that Herrera is the person who distributed the article, and ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported on Sunday that the article was disseminated at the express direction of Al Davis.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:27 pm
RaiderMight
No worries I will get back into this league
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Its funny to see Mike Florio call anyone a vulture.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Yo Plunkett, no way RR is gonna b a headcoach, he don’t no jack about how to run a defense, let alone try to script a gameplan 4 the offense. I know some coaches r successful n that system, ie Belicheck, Cowher, DelRio to some extent, a few others, none of which is remotely close to Ryan 4 ineptitude. This ball gargleling imposter can wipe up after Al’s little tirades, but handling the head duties r way beyond his qualifications, which as we have seen r blown way out of proportion because of his lineage with Buddy. No way Al, as fuc-ed up as his decisions r these daze, puts a complete door-mat puppet like Robbo n that position.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:27 pm
what a joke………
we have no organization in the building, sad very very very sad…….
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Why is it that many of you so-called diehard Raider Fans are some of the most fickle and knuckle-headed people there are. All a bunch of chicken little’s crying about the sky falling when underneath your noses we now have the best assemblage of players in a half dozen years. Y’all would rather piss yourselves over a stupid soap opera of Robbo Kiffie and Al D. than to appreciate what an effort the players have made the past couple of weeks. I dunno kids, I have always gone to the games to watch and root for the players, not to see what kind of Chuckie pictures are on the jumbotron. get over it. Kid is gone. Next…
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:29 pm
IF SOMEONE IN THE RAIDERS SO CALLED ORGANIZATION WOULD COME OUT AND TELL YOUR FANS WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:29 pm
The only thing em-bare-assing is the way Kiffin uses the media and airs out internal information to the public. Kiffin blasted the off-season moves and then today stresses that he himself talked the free agents into coming to the RAIDERS-What!! look if Kiffin was a winning coach that would be one thing but he is young and hasn’t won sh*t-he acts as if he is a winner. I’m not saying Al Davis is right all the time, but I am saying that Kiffin has been wrong since August 2008 and he’s become the lone MOUTH out there and now he is flip-flopping all over the place. Somebody must have told him that if he keeps blasting the RAIDERS Organization he’d better keep whatever money he gets out of Davis, because nobody will hire him with a 5-14 record & the media as his sounding board, at least no GM or AD in this lifetime…
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:30 pm
M
WE HAVE THE PLAYERS BEING MANAGED BY THE CAST OF ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOOS NEST!
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:31 pm
fire mangini…
favre is a bust…
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:35 pm
“internal information”, 92591? We’re the Raiders. There is no “internal information”. The cat’s out of the bag and everyone always knows what’s going on with the Raiders. Al Davis is able to hide the internal goings on in this organization like a fat woman is able to hide her figure in dark clothing. And, everyone knows the 5-14 record is not Kiffin’s. It’s Al Davis’s. Shanahan’s record as a head coach stunk too when he left here. That really stopped him from getting his next head coaching gig, didn’t it? You’re in first class denial, 92591.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:36 pm
M – True that.
Just Win Baby.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:37 pm
With these injuries to the line maybe we need to play a 3/4 ?
Kiffin keep fightin man!
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Rob Ryan tries to lose games in the fourth quarter because he wants Kiffin’s job. Ryan is kissing Al’s *ss, so he can be head coach.
ROB RYAN’S REFUSAL TO BLITZ IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF EVERY GAME IS THE REASON WE KEEP LOSING.
I hope he burns in hell!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:37 pm
MY NEWBORN SON COULD DO BETTER WITH MEDIA RELATIONS THAN ANYONE IN THE RAIDERS ORG.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Favre is a living breathing INT machine that needs to retire!
ASAP
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Without injuries, we’d be ok.
The defense was coming around.
Jerry McDonald is in pro-bowl form right now.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:41 pm
For those of you still wondering what’s going on, jesus christ, you guys have to be living in a daze.
Al Davis is trying to get Kiffin to quit so he doesn’t have to pay him out. The trick Al tried today was to have someone underneath him fire Kiffin, but without giving him anything in writing, hoping that Kiffin would take it at face value and accept his so called termination. Then when Kiffin claimed the money due to him, Al would say that he never fired him, and that Kiffin instead just quit before he’d made an official decision. Kiffin isn’t going anywhere till he has something with Al’s signature on it saying he’s terminated. Basically, Al’s been outfoxed, again. What Al did today is no different than an offense using the hard count to draw a defense offside, and the defense not buying. The look Al must have on his face today is the same look that a quarterback has as he calls the time out and trots back to the sideline.
Hope that helps any of you who are still confused.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Sproles is going to kill RR this sunday..
holstons first tackle this year ???
lmao
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:41 pm
mista we will have to play more 3-4 if Warren is out. That way the Raiders could use Kalimba, scott, and Sam williams. I don’t have high expectations, but you have to just man up and make plays.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:44 pm
I dont think RR will switch to a 3/4 jesus he started blitzing 2 weeks ago…baby steps.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:44 pm
IF WE CAN PULL OFF A W VS CHARGERS IT WILL TURN OUR WHOLE SEASON AROUND…….
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:44 pm
For the last time,
Lane ain’t Shanahan.
Lane ain’t Gruden.
Lane ain’t Monte.
Lane ain’t Carroll.
Lane isn’t even Sarkisian.
After Sunday, Lane is UNEMPLOYED.
Just Win Baby.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Be interested to see what defense the Chargers play up by 24….
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:46 pm
#112
*Gholston
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Chargers playing man defense and blitzing and they have a 24 pt lead….
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:51 pm
For those of you laboring under the delusion Ryan didn’t blitz in the 4th, thats simply not the case.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Why is Kiff so forthright with sensitive injury information?
“Hey, opponents, attack our weaknesses!”
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Good job jerry! What’s the link to see kiff’s press conference at comcast sports net? Many different area’s, did not find it on bay area link for comcast.
Kiff is the real deal and needs time, its obvious at this point that he is not going to quit! Don’t quit on him either aAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:52 pm
So who is the backup RG with Carlisle/McQuistan hurt?
Wade or Morris?
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Fire Kiffin, your wish isn’t coming true this season, bud. If Al was going to fire him, he already would have. He’s not going to. He’ll have to pay him if he fires him because everyone will be watching this time around. When Al stiffed Shahanan we didn’t have around the clock news coverage. Kiffin could sue him, and tack punitive damages on to it, probably winding up costing Al twice as much. If Al doesn’t pay, his share of the franchise, and thus his title of managing general partner, could be affected. (Al wouldn’t drag it that far, but let’s keep our fingers crossed anyway…)
Kiffin’s here all season. The owner who wants to win more badly than any owner in the game is going to stray from his philosophy this year and instead focus on making Kiffin quit, and Kiffin’s never going to. Today Al tried the “you’re fired” hard count. Tried to can Kiffin without saying it himself or putting it in writing. Nice try, dark lord.
How’s that oldie go?
“I’m still here…”
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Kris Jenkins, NT for Jets,(from the panthers) went down with a back injury late in the 2nd quarter! That’s what’s killing the jets d with the chargers. But with our d line injuries pilling up i am getting the same uneasy feeling the jets have right now
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Here’s the article from Lowell Cohn, Press Democrat:
Raiders: Liar Liar Pants on Fire
This is getting better all the time. Better in the sense of more ridiculous – but these are the Raiders and anything goes.
I’m saying there was almost a fistfight in the Raiders press room after Lane Kiffin’s Monday press conference, a fistfight between a Raiders official and a columnist (not me).
Yee-haw!!
The tension had started a few minutes earlier during the Q&A with Kiffin. My friend Tim Kawakami from the San Jose Mercury asked Kiffin if he feels isolated on the Raiders. Kawakami mentioned an article he said the Raiders passed out to the media critical of Kiffin. From back in the room, Raiders official John Herrera – the one who allegedly passed out the article – interrupted the press conference. This act of interrupting was totally unheard of. Herrera yelled, “That’s not true. That’s not true, Kawakami.”
Kawakami ignored him and so did Kiffin, who seemed mildly amused, and the press conference proceeded in an awkward way. I mean, how could it be the same? It’s like you’re invited to dinner at your boss’s house and your boss has white carpets and you spill a glass of red wine on the carpet. The boss’s wife says “Don’t worry, it’ll clean up,” but you know the evening is ruined.
Well, the afternoon over here got ruined – or maybe it got better. You couldn’t make up this stuff, and in a weird way, it’s fascinating.
When the press conference ended, Herrera started shouting at Kawakami.
“You’re a liar,” Herrera shouted. “You built a whole column on a lie. So did Lowell Cohn.” (Hey, that hurts my feelings, John.)
Kawakami put his hand on Herrera’s arm in a peacekeeping soothing way and said, “Calm down.” Herrera violently shook it off. “Get your hand off me,” he shouted. “Get your (bleeping) hand off me.”
To which Kawakami replied, “Do you want to take a punch at me?”
“Yeah, I’d love to.”
And then I heard Kawakami say, “I’d love to own part of this franchise,” meaning if a Raider official slugged him he could sue.
Hey, kids, they don’t teach you this stuff in Journalism 101. I may have missed the exact words in all the hub bub – things were kind of crazy – but I was very close.
Herrera continued to make his point. “Nothing was distributed in this room,” he shouted. “Nothing. Nothing.”
Herrera meant he didn’t actually make the critical Kiffin article available, although according to sources, he directly handed it to one beat writer. According to my sources he let other beat writers know the article existed. So, technically he didn’t hand it out, but he encouraged writers to know about it and read it.
The last thing I heard, Kawakami – bravely to my way of thinking — told Herrera, “You’re welcome to sue me.”
Another fun day at the Raiders. And get this, I went to see the coach get fired, but a fight broke out, instead. The Raiders always provide.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Nnamdi21–
Why did our defense look so much different in the 4th QTR? I bet the Raiders lead the league in blown 4th QTR leads over the last 5 or 6 years.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:57 pm
I am afraid MR is spot on with his view of today’s drama.
Kiffin is really making Al look pathetic now…our owner can’t even handle a 33 year old boy…but we think he can still run the Raiders? LMFAO
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Herrera picked a fist fight with Tim K? LOL. Wannabe mobster. These Al Davis guys are too funny.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:59 pm
S&B – Nation Collective Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Nnamdi21–
Why did our defense look so much different in the 4th QTR? I bet the Raiders lead the league in blown 4th QTR leads over the last 5 or 6 years.
_____________________________________________
ELEVEN since Rob fuking Ryan became DC….but who is counting? Oh yeah, I am….
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Al should suit Herrera up. Maybe he can get in position to make a play in our cover 7 defense we used when Buffalo was only down by a field goal.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:01 pm
WHY MUST OUR ORGANIZATION MAKE US LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF GRADE SCHOOLERS ARE RUNNING OPERATIONS????
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Nnamdi21…
Here are some quotes from Bills’ QB Edwards after the game…
Twelve of Edwards’ final 14 completions netted first downs. One other resulted in a touchdown that pulled the Bills within 23-21.
Edwards all but thanked Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan for calling off the dogs and giving him ample time to set up in the pocket and wait for a receiver to break free time and again.
“They weren’t bringing their pressure because they wanted to sit in coverage a little bit,” Edwards said. “So, they kind of settled down a little bit, and we were able to hit some throws and get the ball down the field.”
………………………..
What part of they stopped blitzing do you not understand?
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:05 pm
M,
Relax, pull up a chair and enjoy the show because we are all spectators of what will go down as one of the ugliest death throws of a professional sports organization in the history of organized sports. I think Al has a master plan to somehow take the Raiders with him to the grave and there is nothing we can do about it, so we might as well observe and learn so that maybe we can prevent this in the future, lol.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Oakglenn, where are you, buddy? I need my fix. Give us your spin on this. I’m sure you already did but I hate backtracking on this bathroom wall comments section. Too tedious. Just come back and put your spin on this again. Give us an encore. I have Saturday Night Live best of Eddie Murphy in the DVD player. But if I can get you to comment tonight, I’ll have my comic relief and I can save Eddie for tomorrow.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Hey Dakota, just for comparison, how many of the few games the Raiders have won during Ryan’s tenure came when we were losing at the start of the 4th quarter or during the 4th quarter. Just curious.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:08 pm
For all who have uttered words such as, “Jamarcus sucks” or “the Qb has no touch” or “Russell can’t hit hit his receivers” or “he is a bust”, I wish you all and every to simply go find another place to haunt. The man has played four entire games in his career. The instant gratification age of persons are really but a lot of pawns under the thumbs of the media.
Mistabrown, good evening
always welcome to see your comments. Yes, Gholston, if it walks like a Mamula, talks like a Mamula and acts like a Mamula, well then… LMAO too.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Heyyyyyyyyyyyy! Gonna get in the hot tubbbba!
Too hottaaaa! Heyyyyyyyy!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:09 pm
FFSniper…after I went through the 50+ losses I didn’t have the energy to look through the 12 or so wins…
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Woopin per nub!
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:11 pm
What is Al waiting for? Rob Ryan is ready to plunge the Raiders to new depths of ineptitude. If the Raiders continue to lose 11 or more games for the next decade will Al continue to release propaganda lauding the past achievements? Doesn’t six years as a bottom feeder status erase the significance of past glory?
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Dakota,
there is no future. that is the legacy of the present US admin. might as well pay attention quickly, what?
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:11 pm
I can’t wait, K rock. If Oakglenn comes in here tonight I can save Eddie for tomorrow. Oakglenn’s enough comedy for one evening.
Haven’t seen the Buckwheat skit in years.
“Figawwwwoah. Fi Gaaah woooah”
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Hey M, where you been ?
MR,
OakGlenn Im sure is in a quandry. He was allover Kiffins sack until Kiffin called out AL/RR’s lame defense now Oak has came to the rescue of Al and RR but how do you defend that mess ?
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:12 pm
oooooh i love these chat rooms. any boys want to talk?
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Just send for my book…
“I wanna be a ho”
by Velvet Jones
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Sadly I see us as a double digit loser for at least a few more seasons. We are lucky the chiefs are garbage, but they will probably recover quicker than we do.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Nice burn M, nice burn.
It is all moot…the super collider goes online in about two months and a black hole will destroy the Earth….but at least Al made the last months entertaining…
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:15 pm
I think the skit where Eddie gets made up as a white guy and goes around New York is on it, too. Just looking at Eddie wearing a straight face in that costume is enough of a riot. I think its the one where he goes to the bank and the loan officer just gives him cash. Then in the next scene all of his black friends are getting made up as white people.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Jamarcus will be fine!!Give the YOUNG man time,he and the RAIDERS will kick butt,naysayers STFU!!!! Remember, my favorite qb was the SNAKE,he sat about five YEARS,and ,guess what,kicked BUTT !!!JRUSS,give him some time,we will be rewarded in time!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Russell is fine…only crack babies are coming in here and questioning his abilities after only 4 starts.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:21 pm
No, MB, I’m looking at an even bigger picture. And that’s Oakglenn and Bob Marley insisting since January that Kiffin is still in good standing, that Kiffin was the one who pulled the trigger on all of the free agent moves, that Kiffin did our drafting, that Kiffin was the one who hired Lofton (they said it. look it up. It’s somewhere), and the granddaddy of them all, that Kiffin was the one who wanted Rob Ryan. Watching them wiggle their way out of those proclamations is the true comedy in all of their b.s. At least Marley’s smart enough to duck it all by talking aboujt players’ bench presses and sprint times, and other irrelevant nonsense. Hoping nobody remembered his b.s. But Oakglenn, we know, isn’t as smart. His memory doesn’t go that far back and as far as he knows he’s been calling for Kiffin’s head all along. We know better, don’t we?
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Steve C0ckring story:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/sports/ci_10533574
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Jamarcus will not be fine if there is a new coach every 2-3 years. His growth has already been stunted from the holdout. If Kiffin stays he will be ok.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Hello Boys and Girls, welcome to Mr. Robinson’s Neighborhood.
That’s the doorbell boys and girls, I wonder who its?
It’s Mr. Mailman boys and girls, with my package from Columbia!
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:24 pm
M, well said about the JR doubters. Kiffin mentioned today that Jamarcus is currently the ‘highest rated’ qb in the 4th qaurter in the entire league.
Now i am not saying he is the best qb in the league, but that has to speak to his poise and ability to step up under pressure. That pass to JLh is a big confidence boost, and Kiffin said he feels that Jamarcus can win games for the Raiders if he needs to. Kiffin obviously still has his doubts about Super Mario and the receiving core: the loss of Kwame, Carlisle, Mcquistain, and Fargas also add to the protection problems.
The recievers are not there yet either. Jlh obviously needs more snaps, but he was running the wrong routes as recently as the final preseason game against Seatle and his rump shaking end zone celebration also illustrates some bad decision making. Chaz Schillens and todd watkins need more snaps. Javon is not healthy nor will he be for the rest of the season.
Curry is just not a good receiver. Ashley can contribute near the goal line, but he is very limited.
In due time nation.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:25 pm
My question is this. Is there really no one, not in the blood family, raider family, or even NFL family, that can step in and have an intervention with Al so that he can finally understand that he’s hurting the team more than helping it?
This is his baby. I don’t buy into the whole “he wants to destroy the Raiders” idea, but I do believe that he is no longer making lucid decisions. There’s either someone, or something feeding the wrong info into Al’s twisted mind, and is in turn causing him to make all the wrong signings, decisions, and firings.
Please, instead of pleading for a removal, let’s plead for an intervention and hope we get to the bottom of what’s behind Al’s demise.
And if indeed a removal is needed, then so be it. But I would really like to find out why things have gotten so bad in Raiderland. And if it’s all Al’s fault, then why has no one done anything to prevent this? He has a son, Mark, has anyone heard of his role within the franchise? I asked Jerry once, he said Mark had no role whatsoever that he knew of. WHy?
We have a very good core of young players, for the love of the game, please, do not let this amount of talent go down the drain Al.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Dakota,
that’s the ticket. It’s entertainment. Aggravating at times to be sure.
and for all the whining pukes (here I will sound like BHP) who want to abandon raiderdom because of a coaching change, there are always the saints, falcons, redskins, cowboys, lions, packers, vikings, cardinals, effingwhiners, rams, chiefs, donkeys, ravens, bengals, browns, jets, dolphins, bills, titans, texans and jaguars (did I miss anyone?)that have not been to a Super Bowl more recently than the Silver and Black. Whine away as you wish.
Incidentally it was a pleasure to listen to Fouts and Criqui do the game on CBS yesterday. They had no interest in the soap opera, they just called the game and they were suitably impressed with the boys from Oaktown to say it. Unlike the BSPN shinolas who only toe the company line of haterism.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Tommy Kelly’s PBTs came back at .09 and .10…he is going to get a reckless driving offer unless his BAC is much higher.
MADD has pushed this sheeet too far…
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Kiffin must stay. I like him a little more each day. Today’s conference was a literal 3 ring barnum and bailey circus. What a circus our franchise is, can it get any more ridiculous? Herrera represents everything that is wrong with this franchise, what a joke and a total embarrassment. Kiffin holds strong, you have to admire how he has held up. I really think he is the answer, the team is not better without him. If we get rid of him I can see him being real successful elsewhere just like every other coach our stupid ass owner has let go, Shanahan, Gruden, Turner…..I hope by some miracle they can work things out or we just start kicking the sh….t out of teams and he has no choice but let him continue. Regardless, there is not mistaking that was the best Raiders performance I have seen since the AFC championship game against the Titans. We looked great out there until the 4th quarter.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Mistabrown,
if the OC is the same for JaMarcus doesn’t matter if the HC changes.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Somewhere Gruden has to be laughing his ass off. His coaching legacy only grows for his time here because he suceeded despite our jackass owner. I feel sorry for the “new suckers” who bought into this mess. They would have been better off buying worthless stock. Al should appoint one of his butt kissers in the front office as coach. It will cut out the middle man. If Kiffin goes so do my tickets.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:35 pm
M,
Kiffin is the OC he calls the plays.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:36 pm
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t211/flaboy49/niners.jpg
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Dakota,
didn’t the (ex?)- governor of S.D. run a stop sign and kill a motorcyclist while he drunker than six cowboys and got off scot free in your great state. (this was after the same man was A.G. of your same great state and while he was A.G. of S.D. he cooked up some godawful crap against the Pine Ridge folk.) perhaps T. Kelly needs some of the same attorneying as had your guv’nor
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Kiffin does call the plays.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Mistabrown,
and Knapp, what does he do? he carries a play sheet with him. and he has a headset doesn’t he?
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:38 pm
M,
He wasn’t drunk…get your story straight…he had a record of speeding and bad driving. If he had been drunk SD would have sent him packing.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Here’s the link to the video of Herrera vs Kiwamakaawe or something…
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2008/09/22/the-raiders-john-herrera-vs-me-in-front-of-the-cameras-today-well-that-was-fun/
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Dakota,.09 is 3 adult beverages for me(185),so ,TK had 5 over an hour or so,WOW,PLEASE,agree that madd has good intentions,but have they ever had a little fun,he was NOT s–t faced,if he was ,hes a rookie
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:41 pm
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September 22nd, 2008 at 8:43 pm
oh, but M. Janklow was a total POS..
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Knapp is Kiffins asst.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:46 pm
It seems to me that we “Raiders” not yet a playoff caliber team played a great game against a playoff bound team until the last half of the last quarter, aren’t we supposed to be rebuilding? And why are we all buying into rumor and inuendo. Thanks V. M. and Mcleroy
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Dakota, what part of South Dakota are you from? I grew up in Sioux Falls and Viborg.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Dakota,
thanks for setting me straight on that. ahem…
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:50 pm
FFSniper,
Mitchell until 3rd grade, Sioux Falls for a time…Hot Springs right now.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:52 pm
M,
Take your ensure.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:53 pm
lol
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:53 pm
More Herrera fight video from jason jones http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Are you seeing Emmit SMith on the post game show ? He has the IQ of a meal worm.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Mistabrown,
and Knapp, a QB tutor, knows what’s going on with the offense correct? who needs Kiffie? everyone has assumed that Cable and Knapp go to Seattle to join baby Mora after this year. why not offer them perks here?
Boy Genius called for two McDaddy direct snaps yesterday resulting in 22 yards for M Bush. He never went back to it. Why?
Tony Sparano gave Brown five direct snaps yesterday and got five touchdowns out of it.
Other team can’t handle something then go back to that well until they do something about it. That is not gimmickry, it is just intelligent football.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:55 pm
It’s nice to know not everyone from SD is a Viqueens, Cheeseheads or Cowgirls fan. I haven’t been home in about 2 years now…in the Navy doing a tour in Japan. Trying to come home for Christmas though and go see the Viqueens take on the Giants since my family likes the Vikes.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Dakota,
yes, I was crawling up Himalayan mountainsides before you were born, but I ain’t “depends”able.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
FFSniper,
Viqueens are east river….west river is full of Donkey fans…that is partially why I chose the Raiders, lol.
Safe journey to you.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Perks in Oakland?
M, are you ok man? Fever ? Light headed ? Whats up with ya ?
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
M,
lol
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Sorry to repost I will be right back:
# Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:55 pm
After watching tape of the game, The Raiders defense pitched a SHUTOUT FOR 50+ MINUTES OF A SIXTY MINUTE GAME. A FUKKING SHUTOUT! The only points the Bills scored was the direct result of a Jamarcus Russell fumble where the Bills took over on the Raider 20 yard line and scored six.
Every single person who posted on this site, saying Ryan and the Defense cost this game, is an undeniable absolute Fukking Moron. What the fukk do you expect???? A defense to go out there and pitch a shut out every game???? UNBELIEVEABLE!! I love that. Posters come in here and say, well the 2001 Ravens and the 1985 Bears uh ya know……you have GOT to be kidding me.
Watching this game live I thought that was one of the most dominant defensive performances I had EVER seen. And I will bet my life savings I’ve seen more NFL games IN ANY CAPACITY than 99% of the people posting on this site. Once Warren went out early in the fourth, and you put a back up tight end in his place, Wakefield, AT THAT EXACT MOMENT, it was up to Kiffin and the offense to win the game.
There is 9 minutes to go in the game. I will be right back.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
The only perk in Oakland is getting paid & then leaving.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Mistabrown,
one can always wax quixotic in a dire time.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Why are we just talking about Kiffen? Wasn’t it Ryan’s defense that went into the prevent mode in the 4th quarter? Why do you spend 3 quarters blitzing and dominating the line and then go into a prevent defense that couldn’t stop anyone. Lane Kiffen didn’t lose the game in Buffalo, Ryan did!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Jerry what happened with Kawakami and Hererra? I heard Hererra mention your name.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Here is a link to a video of the incounter.
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/archives/015586.html
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:03 pm
OakGlenn, you watched tape ?
What do you mean? Duct tape? Are you sniffing glue and watching scotch tape ?
# Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:55 pm
After watching tape of the game,
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:03 pm
And BTW, the Raider offense at this point has converted ONE OF TEN third downs!!!!!!!!!!!! Out of 16 points, 10, over half, MOST, 62.50% PERCENT, were the direct result of defensive turnovers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Anyone see Emmitt Smith bash the Raiders saying won’t play well next week because we aren’t consistent. I hope we win next week. It would be a big statement. But people won’t give us credit if we do. They will say we got lucky or blame it on injuries for the Chargers or something. Get this team ready Kiff…big game this Sunday!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:05 pm
And you are the biggest Moron clown!! Hey Clown how bout jano, how bout Favre, how bout 4-12 being mid ground, clown you are regarded here as the biggest moron on the blog. Go sukk MRs dik as usual.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:06 pm
where are ya clown??
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Here we go again….lol.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Emmit Smith is a lame that fool just laughed about us on bspn! Saying ” the Bills a are undefeated by a little luck in schedule… I mean c’mon the Raiders”
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Captain Delusional, you wonder why you’re a target in here?
LMAO
# Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:55 pm
“Watching this game live I thought that was one of the most dominant defensive performances I had EVER seen. And I will bet my life savings I’ve seen more NFL games IN ANY CAPACITY than 99% of the people posting on this site”
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:07 pm
OG your makeing your self look bad bro! WTF do you call that prevent D @ the end? and that 3 man push was a great call also! Sheeze
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:09 pm
408 the defense gave up 0 points in 50 minutes. Talk about that.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:09 pm
They didn’t play prevent at the end.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:09 pm
OakGlenn you are better than the 3 stooges, no lie and I mean that as a compliment you are funny.
Dumb as a rock but funny…
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:10 pm
408 you wanna see the tape??
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Clown you’re the biggest joke here. Sorry, I don’t respond to garbage.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:11 pm
M,
Kiffin is a better play caller than knapp. Knapp will do more of the same that kiffin is doing now while Jamarcus is still developing. Knapp consistently had one of the worst passing offenses in Atlanta. Kiffin will air it out when the time comes. I trust kiffin’s judgement. knapp is a good oc, but he is just another play caller: think Trestman, hackett, Fassell. The raiders need patience with Jamarcus and Kiffin because the offense is not ready. The wild porpose did good for Miami, and Dmac needs to get more touches in that formation, but that is more along the lines as learning experience than an example that Kiffin isn’t a good play caller.
Finally if Kiffin is fired before the end of the season, i will not renew my tickets: section 115 seats 1-3 right behind the raiders bench. I have seen the impact kiffin has on this team. You can call it whining, but i just call it good sense. i won’t invest my cash into this organization if that is they way they will continue to do business.
I remeber when i figured out wrestling was fake when i was a kid, and i just could not get into anymore: it would be the same here. If the kid gets canned 3 great seats will be up for grabs, and the price will probably rise either way. You can have them. i can only take so much. i love watching football on all levels and would be fine watching the games at home instead of blindly following the crypt keeper. Its agame, but the raiders are personal to us fans that invest so much into them. if i was millionare i couldn’t care less, but im not and and i willl find other things to do with cash.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:11 pm
You know something Morons, bring it.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Wrong, they gave up a TD after JR fumbled. The defense doesnt get a pass just because the offense turned the ballover you putz…a TD is a TD no matter how you want to slice it.
Moron/Ding A Ling
# Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:09 pm
408 the defense gave up 0 points in 50 minutes. Talk about that.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:13 pm
by Cam Inman
Staff columnist
Article Last Updated: 09/22/2008 08:51:09 PM PDT
ALAMEDA
THE LANE KIFFIN Firing Watch reached a new level of absurdity Monday at Raiders HQ.
A team executive stood toe-to-toe with a columnist — not this one — and told him he’d love to punch him out, right there with 100 eyeballs and earlobes at attention inside the media room.
Alas, no right hooks were thrown.
No head coach was fired.
No doubt Al Davis is loving this.
And it’s no wonder that Kiffin, the Raiders’ embattled second-year coach, couldn’t help but smile at how kooky this saga is playing out.
Surely you didn’t envision Davis’ bailout plan for the Kiffin era to involve a soft landing. This is getting messier and more unprofessional by the day. This is, the Raiders.
Kiffin, of all people, came across as the model employee Monday, even though multiple Internet reports cited earlier in the day that he’d been told by team officials of his imminent firing.
In the midst of Kiffin’s standard day-after-game news conference, Raiders senior executive John Herrera challenged the accuracy of a column penned last week by MediaNews columnist Tim Kawakami, who claimed the Raiders distributed to reporters copies of an ESPN.com column that was part anti-Kiffin.
As soon as the news conference ended, Herrera confronted Kawakami at his seat. Kawakami put his hand on Herrera’s shoulder and told him to calm down.
“Get your (expletive) hand off me,” said Herrera, who then repeatedly denied the ESPN article ever was distributed.
Kawakami, and a couple other reporters, insisted otherwise. Herrera then berated Kawakami for building “a whole column on a lie,” and he accused the same of two other columnists.
Asked if he wanted to take a swing at him, Herrera replied: “I’d love to.” Kawakami’s response: “I’d love to own part of this franchise.”
Uh, might want to rethink that retort. You don’t want any part of this franchise.
As that verbal spat played out, Kiffin sauntered out of the room. About 15 minutes earlier, Kiffin was asked if he felt isolated among the Raiders, and Kawakami referred to the alleged distribution of the ESPN column.
“That’s not true! That’s not true, Kawakami!” Herrera shouted out before Kiffin could answer.
Kiffin smirked at the exchange. Who wouldn’t? This saga has turned into a childhood truth-or-dare game.
Davis needs to end this nonsense. Sure, it makes for riveting “drama,” as linebacker Thomas Howard called it Monday. But Davis needs to speak up, either in support of the status quo (Kiffin stays employed) or in declaring a coaching change.
Don’t wait until next week’s bye. Deal with this, already.
“There’s no way I’m quitting,” Kiffin said emphatically. “It has nothing to do with money (remaining on his contract).”
Kiffin cited his allegiance to the players and coaches he recruited to join him on this bizarre, 20-month journey. He dropped no statements that he’s ready to distance himself from this insanity, and he constantly used the terms “we” and “our.”
“Until I am told by Al Davis that I’m not the head coach here anymore, we’re going to keep plugging away the same way we have been,” Kiffin said. “So I have not been told by Al Davis that I am not the head coach. Until he tells me directly, we’ll keep plugging away.”
Kiffin said he hasn’t even talked with Davis since the season started Sept. 8. Needless to say, a chat is long overdue.
Kiffin vs. Davis has evolved into Kiffin vs. Rob Ryan, disgruntled fans vs. Davis, reporter vs. team executive and absurdity vs. reality.
“I can’t worry about what other people say,” Kiffin said of the reports predicting his dismissal. “If we believed everything people said around here, we would be in a lot of trouble.”
Like any soap opera, just when you think the climax is coming in the next episode, it doesn’t.
It’s become wackier than the Brett Favre Summer Theatre. Is Kiffin going? Is he staying? What on earth is the boss thinking? When will this end? Not soon enough.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:13 pm
IF Herrera doesn’t get fired after that, then I don’t know what to expect next.
Well, actually, that might happen, because now Herrera has brought attention to himself as the face of the Raiders, so maybe Al will get jealous and fire him. Or maybe Al send him out to do just that. So that someone else can be seen as a bad guy besides Al.
Either way, that was a bad move, because now there’s going to be a lot more people trying to look into what’s going on inside that will only bring more distraction and could very possibly become a huge circus and cost us games and players.
I wonder, if things got bad enough, what would the NFL be able to do? Could they step in and cut ties with the club if needed? Can they do such a thing? I don’t think they would do such a thing, but if Davis doesn’t step down and only makes things worse and doesn’t let the NFL help, could they, or would they do something like that?
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:13 pm
lmao @ this guy thinking hes a coach!!!!
You aint lookin at no tape Oak! You dont even have DV-R!
# Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:10 pm
408 you wanna see the tape??
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Dick the playcalling between the first half and the second half was NITE AND DAY. The offense in the first half was innovative, had Buffalo on it’s heals, pounded the rock. The offense in the second half, was the most mundane, predictable, foolish set of crap ever called. Which person called which?
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:15 pm
OakGlenn, roll the tape bro!
lmao
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:15 pm
What isn’t Raiders’ Davis firing away?
REPORTS: KIFFIN STILL EMPLOYED
By John Ryan Mercury News
Article Launched: 09/22/2008 08:04:16 PM PDT
It’s all over but the shouting, and the Raiders got that going but good Monday, with Al Flunky No. 1 John Herrera confronting our Tim Kawakami.
But really. What’s Al Davis waiting for? Some guesses:
1. Since McAfee chose not to extend its naming-rights deal, Al has been shopping for a new corporate partner in the Raiders’ bright future, and he wants to announce Oakland Coliseum’s new name as he announces his new coach. So far, the candidates whose corporate image most represents the Raiders are Lehman Brothers, AIG and maybe Borden with all those milkmen they used to have. Whatever happened to the milkmen? They used to come every morning and they had to bring extra jugs for Art Shell and Pete Banaszak and do you remember how Art Powell used to run and hey where’s my lunch?
2. Al’s going to wait until the first day that nobody is reporting Kiffin will be fired. Then he can be right and everyone else in the world can be wrong.
3. The all-caps key on the Raiders’ computer is broken, which is a debilitating blow to the public-relations operation that PROTESTED A LEGAL VERDICT IN FAVOR OF THE NFL BY ISSUING A PRESS RELEASE THAT WAS PERSUASIVE SOLELY BECAUSE OF ITS ALL-CAPPINESS.
4. He’s trying to get James Lofton to agree to be player/coach.
5. The man has a problem on his hands. It’s far easier to fire a coach during the bye week and give the new guy more time to slide into the chair. But if he keeps Lance Lane around, there’s a chance the Raiders beat the Chargers and actually have a pulse and an early hope of playoff contention. Then Al might have to keep Lance Lane.
Yes, the Raiders would be the sports equivalent of “The Producers.” Despite the money man’s best efforts to flop, the production would be a success, and wouldn’t that be a horrible thing?
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:16 pm
wonder how long before moss cries in NE cause hes not getting the ball like last year
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:16 pm
I’ll go against the grain here and say that Kiffin should be fired, and fired soon. Why? Because he’s not the savior that you all like to paint him as. In fact, so far he’s a failure in my book. Break it down:
- Defensive meltdown. That D played damn good for 3.5 quarters. To those that blame Ryan for going prevent, I got news for ya. That’s the HC call for what overall scheme to use; the DC just calls the individual plays within. Kiff went super conservative with the lead, both on offense and defense. No way does the DC decide to play soft without being in sync with the offense trying to kill clock. So for all of you fire Ryan types, get a reality check. This was Kiff’s call to play soft.
- Horrendous clock management. Everyone saw the blown chances to uses TOs when the Bills were marching on the final drive. Even worse, Kiff himself said his guys were winded. Gee Lane, maybe an extra minute or two to breathe might be a good thing against a team that you are giving credit to now for speeding up the tempo! Never mind that it might’ve been nice to have some time left on the clock instead of watching it tick down.
- Even more poor clock management. What I haven’t seen anyone call out is the Raiders last drive. At that point you want to take every second off the clock that you can, thus the predictible 3 and outs. And there’s JR snapping the ball with 11 and then 7 seconds left on the play clock on 2nd and 3rd downs. WTF? Suddenly you’re in a hurry? Oh, I know. You expect the 3 and out so you want to have time on the clock after the Bills inevitible score against the soft defense you’re going to call next. Well, that makes sense if you know that you have time outs to use. Horrid!
- Offensive contributions? Let’s see, you were brought here to revamp the passing attack. The run is solid thanks to Knapp and Cable bringing over the same system that had Atlanta as the top rushing team. The passing remains weak for so many reasons:
— You won’t let a #1 overall pick use his God given talents. This despite the fact that guys like Ryan, Flacco, Cutler, Leinart all with the same or less experience are given a lot more rope to hang themselves with and for the most part, are better because of it.
— You imply lack of WR talent, yet you keep the young guns that you want on the bench. Higgins proved what some young legs can do if you let the QB throw the ball to them. And WTF with ignoring the best set of hands on the team. One frickin’ ball targeted to Miller? How about dumping it to DMac on the outside a bit more then, again getting the ball into the hands of playmakers.
- And the last reason to fire him now is that he’s absolutely, positively, 100% gone next season anyway. What exactly is there to accomplish by keeping him onboard now when you could get at least a head start with the new regime?
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Is clowns team in last place of the FF league??? Someone update us. I bet it is.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:18 pm
come on OG I saw the game and I knew when we started rushing 3 and playing zone it was a done deal! I admit the D was Balling for 50 min its the last 10 that I have a problem with(not you)..
Agree to disagree bro..?
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Al Davis is really making BSPN look like a bunch of stupid idiots….Today Chris Mortenson Reported that Kiffin had informed him that he had been fired………10 hrs later…NOTHING!!
He is now doing the complete opposite!!
This guy is just frucken with everybody!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Dakota Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:15 pm
What isn’t Raiders’ Davis firing away?
REPORTS: KIFFIN STILL EMPLOYED
I wish I knew why Kiffin was still employed.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:19 pm
I lost week 1 & week 2 by a total of 3 points but I won yesterday. I dont look at the standings in week 3.
OakGlenn, dont change the subject with FF just keep swallowing RR and AL’s meat stick its better reading material.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Dick V,
that was one of the best thought through paragraphs (post 208)to come onto this site today. Whether I agree or not with all of your sentiments is no matter. You expressed well what you had to say. Thank you. It is always nice to read reasoned personal discourse.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:19 pm
408 you’re an excellent poster, a great fan, and I am proud to correspond with you. But the O and Kiffin cost this game. And I am a BIG KIFF GUY.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Either FIRE his ass or keep him….
STOP it with the charade already….
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:21 pm
So then, uh, you are a loser, huh, Clown??
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:21 pm
408,
I guess you dont know how this goes!
OakGlenn, will say anything & everything to defend RR & AL’s defense. He will then say you said things you didnt actually say to make his case.
Good luck..
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Sorry, I’ll be back in nine minutes.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Hererra say Kawakam was lying. I don’t even know if Kawakam denied lying but I assume he did deney it. Everyone seems to like to jump to the conclusion it was Hererra lying because he has been villified for working for the number one villian, Al Davis. I have no way of knowing who was lying but I do know that the media sure hasn’t been straight with us enough to have my confidence. Remember them telling Russell was 300lbs. We know that turned out to be a lie. Look at all of the other stuff they have told us that didn’t turn out true either. So we know we are being lied to, and we know the media has lied to us before, so I give just as much credence to Hererra’s side of the story as I do Kawakam’s.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Good idea Oak…
There on you like flies on sh!t tonite!!
Maybe things will cool down for you….but I doubt it.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Zymurge,
your argument is sound in 218. complete agreement here.
yes I know there are even more things to add to what you wrote, but it suffices as is. Thanks for making perfect sense in the breakdown.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Raiders have the ball and the lead. Run up the gut, no gain. run up the gut. No gain.
“A very predictable offense…” Dan Fouts
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Trent Dilfer giving big props to Kiff on BSPN
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:28 pm
The hardest part about the loss to buffalo, was knowing that all this will follow. Its ridiculous, Al loves to be in control well control this the sooner the better. I guess Javon Walker was right saying that this was funny. Russell needs to continue to develop, he is not reading defenses, he locks on to one reciever if thats not there he looks to dump it off, he’s still learning to read the game, I’ve yet to see him hit a second or third reciever. This is nonsense, Al Davis needs to step to Kiffen like a man and let him know the situation, it’s only practical, he’s invested millions and millions of dollars into this franchise, and he treats it like his own personal pet. Hopefully key word HOPE, this will make us come together as a team. It’s hard to watch this team knowing that if we lose are head coach will be gone.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Russell has thrown his SECOND PASS OF THE THE HALF. IT WENT FOR SIX. The first one, thrown on first down, was the only time the Raiders got a first down in the entire half. But RR and the defense is to blame for the loss in this game.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Lehman Brothers and AIG are candidates for the new name of the Coliseum? How much money are we talking about here? Will they even have enough money? LOL
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Dakota Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:15 pm
What isn’t Raiders’ Davis firing away?
REPORTS: KIFFIN STILL EMPLOYED
I wish I knew why Kiffin was still employed.
______________________________________________
That was the title of the story I posted you dunce. Don’t try to make it look like I said it.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Oakglenn,
I remember we had a 3rd and 6……. We could have sealed the game with a couple of first downs, but no…..Kiffy decided to run it up the gut…as you said!!
No imagination!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Oh, my bad, I get it now…they were joking…good one!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Dakota-I’m not loser. Why don’t you blame the defense again, imbecile.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:32 pm
tell me u guys saw kiff on bspn… and trent was saying Al would make a big mistake by letting go kiffen and that any team should be looking at him as a head coach for their team! “Kiffen is a leader among men!” HA!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:33 pm
The fact of the matter is this …….
Al is a senile OLD fool…….
AND
Kiffin’s Record as HC is 5-14….
We should get rid of both of those knuckle heads!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Ghost Rider, you are exactly right. I was just sitting in a bar in Oakland watching the Monday nite game and the guy next to me, not a football fan, said, one first down and the Raiders win that game. They could not get one first down when it mattered. But the defense gives up 7 points in 50 minutes of the game and they are to blame. Unbelievable.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:33 pm
we lost as a team, to conservative, on the critical third and six russell misread the defense, threw into double converage. Yes a pass on 1st or second would have been nice, a blitz every now and then would have been nice in the second half as well. Were a young team, I take my pass off to Edward’s he was getting hit and made the right throw everytime making reads, hopefully Russell can develop as well as Edwards has.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Yeah we need to score TD’s instead of field goals OG but we shouldn’t loose with a 9 point lead in the 4th quarter…
RAIDER ON OG…
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Dakota-I’m not loser.
____________________________________
I think that speaks for itself.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:35 pm
I’m proud of my guys for the way they played in Buffalo!! Raider On 408!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Both coaches played to not lose the game, and not to win it, we are learning to win, we have a rookie qb, that is the key. Firing Kiffen midseason will only slow Russells development.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:36 pm
# Dakota Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Dakota-I’m not loser.
____________________________________
I think that speaks for itself.
——————————–
I think you are losing it Dakota. Seriously.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:36 pm
he is still employed because hes not getting fired. this is mort and adam thinking they know Al Davis and they dont.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Oakglenn,
You know it’s a bad sign when the offense continues to get into the red zone and only comes up with 3 points….
Thats always a bad sign!!
It eventually catches up to any football team who settles for field goals instead of TD’s…
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:38 pm
I think MR is playing OakGlenn tonight but they might be one of the same anyway..
It was a team loss not a defense loss. The problem we have with RR is he abandoned what was working for 50 minutes you idiot.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:38 pm
i mean come on! how hard is it to say everyday that as early as tomarrow i could take a crap. eventually it will happen. but in this case it wont.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:40 pm
I keep missing everything! FuK! this lame computer wont let me watch the video @ JJ’s site I’m totally depressed now..
FREE DIRTY!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Oakglenn,,
I was proud of the way they played also Oakglenn….They really did deserve to win…
But I was satisfied with the effort!!
The team is playing their heart out for kiffin, thus far….
Al should wait before he goes for the kill….
Fireing kiffin is not good for the team right now.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Dakota, yeah I forgot to mention the Donkeys, lots of them east river too!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Try this one 408
Dakota Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:24 pm
THAT WAS AWESOME!
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/22/herrera-kawakami-nearly-rumble/
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:41 pm
that news clip was hilarious!
Man, Al Davis is running a 3 ring circus. For someone who has been around the block a few times he sure can make an ass of himself.
Funniest part was Ray “the FAT RAT” Ratto chitting his pants in the background, hahaha!
Here’s to you Coach Kif, WIN or LOSE, I’m with ya Brah!
It takes Man to speak like a man, Lane “big BALLS” Kiffin.
(As I pour my Budwieser to the earth)
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:42 pm
unless cowher or billick are going to replace him, why fire him? theres NO one better on that staff to replace him. its too detrimental to the team if he gets canned.
P.S……F Al Davis
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:42 pm
I told all you pretenders that the Chargers were going to be back tonight. That was just a warm up though for the beating the Raiders are going to take next week. Super Bowl Super Chargers 2009! Yeah Baby, yeah!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Oakglenn, what’s the name of the defense we used at the end? You know, the one where our secondary played 10 yards off of the ball, when we were down by a field goal? It’s not a prevent. Even a prevent has a couple of linebackers watching for the short pass. Does Al have some special name for it?
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Mistabrown,
I think that the D’ just started getting a little tired at the end….
There was no pass rush at the end of the game…
Did you notice??
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:43 pm
So were going to fire kiffen, and replace him with rob ryan or Lofton, the only guys on the staff that kiffen didn’t bring in?
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:44 pm
F’ the frucken chargies..
Notice this punk has been nowhere to be found for two weeks…and now the little fairy shows up!!
F’ you…you little fairy charger fan!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Excuse me, when THEY were down by a field goal, I meant in #`262. Oakglenn, what defense was that called? The one where our secondary kept giving nice 10 yard cushions while we were only up by 2? Al has to have a name for it, right? Because we’ve been using it at the end of close games, and consequently choking, for years now.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:45 pm
On the TD that Buffalo just scored to come within 2 we played a 46 sending everyone with single coverage deep. Routt was the one who gave it up. But their TD was on an all out blitz.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:45 pm
I love the way we competed, we where exciting, the defense was blitzing from everywhere, are playmakers were making plays. Then we put the car in nuetral and watched it roll down hill.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:45 pm
The prevent defense does just what it say’s…
It PREVENTS you from winning!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:45 pm
herrera is LAME
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:46 pm
No, I noticed RR rushing 3 guys and dropping people back and we got served….AGAIN!
Did you read T Edwards comments? He said we dropped back and they were able to execute.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:46 pm
F*ck you Ghost Rider Al, I was here standing up for my team when we got screwed by the refs in Denver you pathetic piece of sh*t.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:47 pm
I still wish Herrera would have dropped bombs on Kawakami!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Oakglenn, I’m not talking about that defense. I’m talking about the Cover 11 we ran when we were only up by 2. Come on, you ‘member. You just watched the game tape, remember? What is that defense called? The super prevent? The ‘at least they won’t beat us with the bomb’? The Head Coach Sabotage?
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Oakglen 267 that was a hell of a throw by edwards, he stood in there took a big hit and deliever a timing pass to a spot.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:48 pm
OG,
The Raiders had the game where they wanted it. The defense had beat up the bills and edwards all game, and Oakland had ran even more effectively in the first half versus the bills than it did vs the Chiefs.. a funny thing happened on our way to another 300 yard rushing performance, tthe bills showed, the heart, discipline and exeecution that they have been known for since last years MNF game vs the Cowboys.
The Bills are also a better conditioned team especially their little small ends Kelsay and Scobel. our boys Burgess and kalimba may be more talented, but those two have that non stop motor and did not quit. The bills defense made plays and contained Dmac in the second half. Think of dmac’s cut back into what look like open field only to be stopped by Greer. on a similar play vs Marshawn, burgess missed the tackle and Ibril wilson got sucked inside and lost containment of marhsawn.
The offense was mundane? what about that perfectly executed seem rout to JLH?
We lost they won. They were the better TEAM on that day. Kelsay and Schobel are not as talented as Burgess and Kalimba but they just want to win more and their dedication in the offseason allows them to keep playing where players like Burgess and kalimba wear down. Gerard Warren’s injury did not help either and if he doesn’t get hurt we are talking about a statement win for the Raiders, but I must say that seems to be the story with Warren. he like burgess hs all world potential, but is he as committed to winning as say a Marcus stroud for the Bills? I doubt it; i doubt he goes as hard as Big stroud in the offseason, and he wears down like so many other players that don’t fufill their potential. Our boys need to put in the work before they start winning. Kiffin will instill that winning attitude into the program if he stays, but if he is fired, we will see more of the same lack of commitment to winning.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:48 pm
OakGlenn, will you just answer him and get it over with?
While your at it tell us how blitzing is a bad idea for our defense…
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Herrera’s a wannabe mafioso, like Al. Tim K probably would have dropped him.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Your’e a little fairy…
Go home.. YOU STUPID CHILD!!
find you’re own charger site…
O’h yea…Thats a hook up for GAY chargie fairy’s!! huh???
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:49 pm
ps. Marshawn Lynch is a beast that was a big third down when Burggess had him in the backfield, and he broke lose for a first down.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:49 pm
our blitzers need to be quicker, he still had too much time
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:49 pm
I say Keep Kiffin, Keep Al, Keep Ryan, but FIRE HERRERA!!!
New campaign blog, FIRE HERRERA!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Philip Rivers was on tonight. He is going to torch Hall next week. Hell, we don’t even LT to play. Norv should rest him against the Raiders.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Wanting to be a gangster is cool when you’re like 15. It’s not when you’re over 60. Herrera’s a goof ball.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Ghost Rider was a terrible movie.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Serious our front office is a very big joke……
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Raiders with the lead and ball. A first down will win the game. they lose 2 yards in 3 plays and are forced to punt. Clearly that is the fault of the Raider defense.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Thanx Dakota.. BTW all my friends in SD are either Raider fans or Redskins fans.. IM just saying
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Dakota do you have a photobucket pic of Herrera ?
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:52 pm
#50 So Len you wonder why Gribil Wilson lost his compsure. Watch the video with Herrera and the Mercury news reporter. Talk about a professional organization making a fool of itself. Herrera did just that. Regardless of who’s right or wrong. Herrera has no buisness doing what he did on video tape, it was stupid and unprofessional. But then again typical for our organization.
I would not be surprised with Goodell and the NFL Suspended and fined Herrera. Herrera whether right or wrong was very unprofessional. No wonder our players do stupid things at stupid times. No wonder no one wants to coach here. I thought the guy was gonna go postal any minute.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:53 pm
I don’t care if a reporter is not telling the truth, you don’t handle that siuation like Hererra did, what a sad state for this franchise.
If rhis Organization ever wants to grow up it needs to start having good communication with the outside world, especially the fan base.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:53 pm
I agree Shawn Raider. Hopefully this team can pull together threw contreversy and take a us against the world approach because that’s what it’ll take to beat the chargers. Either that or just stay close they’ll find a way to lose there the Chargers, SUPER BOWLESS, forever and a day without a ring.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:53 pm
I disagree with you in 249 McWagon. Kiffin is doing a fine job slowing JRs progress with his kid gloves. Were you impressed with Trent Edwards and his letting the ball fly? Well, he’s got the same number of years in the league but doesn’t sport a #1 overall pick. In fact, he didn’t even get picked until the 3rd round and then had to bide his time waiting fo Losman to fizzle out. Based on the draft value, JR should be kicking his but. But I don’t know if anyone can currently argue who the better QB is thus far in their career.
Maybe he’s getting better quick because his coach lets him make mistakes. You can learn all that you want on chalkboards and in controlled practices, but there’s nothing like real game situations where you blow it to teach you a lasting lesson. He has to learn first hand what his bad tendencies are by throwing bad passes so that he knows what not to do as he progresses.
There main purpose of this season is to develop JR and the other young players as they build their nucleus. Wins and losses aren’t that meaningful when you aren’t realistically targeting playoffs, so let the kids learn. Open it up! Let’s see some play action, some double moves, some deep comebacks, where he can use that monster arm downfield. He’s going to learn what he can and can’t do, and along the way, scare the safeties enough just with the attempts to give the RBs a chance up the middle.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Dakota do you have a photobucket pic of Herrera ?
________________________________________________
Of course:
http://dunamai.com/Humor/BagdadBob/images/bagdad_bob_large.gif
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Real one pls
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:57 pm
yeah dude that was some funny isht! Did any body catch what he said about Jerry? I listened to it like 3 times and I couldn’t catch it..
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:57 pm
I think that deep down Kiffin wants out of this organization…..
Maybe he’s looking at replacing Fullmer in Tennessee….
But he also wants to screw Al Davis by forcing him to pay the remainder of his contract….
Kiffin look’s like he will go directly back to college after his short stay in the NFL!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:57 pm
I don’t know Dick. I see a team that gave up on both sides of the ball once the coaching gave up. You’re analysis in #276 is incredibly good. The question in the game is why, when you are just rolling them, with a first and ten at midfield late in the 3rd quarter, do you just give up, run three straight plays into the line, and try to hold on for a W. At that exact point, all the life was sucked out of the team.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:57 pm
#203 Really? The defense gave up no points for 50 minutes. What are you smoking dude. What was the halftime score, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter. Dude your a freaking nut case and actually should be in the Raiders Admin department, with comments like you made. NO POINTS in 50 MINUTES, wow. OKAY then I guess our defense was not on the field when Lynch scored on a pass out of the backfield in the 2nd quarter.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:57 pm
“I don’t know Dick.”
Exactly.
You say it, we report it, Oak.
BTW, to those in here who actually have a brain, huge LOL at the pic of Kiffin on Raiders.com’s front page. Check it out.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:00 pm
I got nothing Mista.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Zymurge the problem with that is, are offensive line is not built for pass protection, we have a light offensive line built for zone blocking, where as buffalo has a big o line. Are recievers are slow and double moves are unrealistic, with the exception of maybe walker who has yet to earn a dollar, realistically higgens is not a good route runner, curry is slow, so double moves are out of the question its just not realistic, were as buffalo has speedy recievers. I agree this season is to develop Russell into a winner, and he has to learn to make the big third down pass under pressure, as we saw Edwards make time after time.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:01 pm
MR,
let me understand your thinking here, the RAIDERS go three and out with a proximately (let’s say) three minutes left in the game. This three and out is because of Al Davis. Oh yeah and leaving two time outs on the score board, thats Al Davis. Kiffin blasting the off season moves and then today Kiffin the model employee states he talked these same free agents to join the RAIDERS, that is or is not Al Davis. Wait, then Russell is one for one passing from the start of the second half until six minutes or so left in the fourth quarter-one freaking pass, that’s Al Davis… OK talk about somebody in denial-you are a MORON and lack the ability to understand anything logical in the least. Lame is a understatement, first of all Kiffin is 5-14 and he has blasted the players, coaches & the Owner in an attempt to get fired and paid the remaining salary in his contract. Kiffin wants to enter the college job market. Until he is actually able to win football games he will not be offered anything “high profile” which he needs to fit the high esteem he has for himself. That’s why he is NOW back peddling because NO AD or GM will hire this snot nosed “know it all” coach. After blasting his employer in every media outlet across the Nation, with a 5-14 record he is a nobody but a sad story (like Ryan Leaf). Without turning his losing record around he’d be lucky to become the jock strap coach for the Buc’s, and even then Gruden would have to beat his A$$ a few times. Kiffin would more than likely turn to the media and state Gruden ordered the jock straps but he was not responsible for the smell & the laudry room manager and Gruden discuss those things and Kiffin can only control what he can control..
MR you are a first classless MORON… Plus Kiffin’s play calling sucks…
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:01 pm
So If a return guy returns a kickoff 99 yards and the opposing team scores the next play. You hang that one on the defense?? the only thing hurting is truths brain.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:01 pm
ok the defense played a great first half, then when we had them pinned on the 4 yard line the defense was still fresh, we played soft, and they drove 96 yards on us.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:02 pm
2:42 seconds in the game, 92591.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:02 pm
lmao
This is the funniest exchange ever on this site!!!
MR Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:57 pm
“I don’t know Dick.”
MR Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Exactly.
You say it, we report it, Oak.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:03 pm
before u scoof at the idea raiders will sghn sam adams he stated last year over weight n lost it wants to finish better or maybe both him n joseph if warren is hurt no other choise dont think grady is still out there is he?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Actually wagon that was the point. The offense had gotten one first down the entire 2nd half. The defense wasn’t fresh.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Al Davis need to get control of this Circus that he has created, I don’t know maybe he is the ring master and will just make things worse, to many freaking clows runing around here.
These bad public relations are a tougher pill for me to swallow than a 1 point loss, if people just looked at our team they would see we have a good football team, instead they see Herrera trying to kill some 4′8 asian guy on video.
ONLY if the Raiders knew how to COMMUNICATE maybe people would see the football on the field instead all they see is all the clowns and want no part of the crazy b.s. that is going on.
GET BACK TO FOOTBALL AND COMMUNICATE!!!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Mcfadden,,
I can agree with you there….
Our wide recievers are aweful…..
They suck…..
No wonder people say that JaMarcus had better wide out’s at LSU….
Curry,Higgins,Walker Lelie…
They all SUCK!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:04 pm
lt was schit tonite.
sproles is the workhorse and lt gets the ball on the 3 yard line to score……..what a wuss. i guess crater face turner didnt want to see lt cry again….
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Grady is in Atlanta again…I saw him stuff a play in the backfield against the Chefs yesterday…
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:05 pm
MR and clown = Weasel and the Scumbag.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:05 pm
All I want to know is how the opposing team scores after the return guy went 99 yards. Did the return guy fumble & they scored a TD ? Great special teams play Oak…lol
# Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:01 pm
So If a return guy returns a kickoff 99 yards and the opposing team scores the next play. You hang that one on the defense?? the only thing hurting is truths brain.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Oakglenn, theres no excuse to let a sputtering offense go 96 yards on you while your up 9 points.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:07 pm
IF DB IS HURT BRING BACK DE FROM CAMP FROM TAMPA SPROILES OR SEE IF COURTNEY BROWN WANTS TO PLAY GUYS I HAVENT CHECKED THE STREET AGENT LIST BUT WE DO NEED BODYS TO PLAY N PRAY WE DONT GET KILLED. O LOINE WILL BE FINE BUT D LINE WE NEED TO PLUG IN SOME OLD VETS N HOPE.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Oh the defense wasnt fresh argument!
OakGlenn, was the defense fresh the first half of the Denver game?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:07 pm
133.
K-Rock Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Nnamdi21…
Here are some quotes from Bills’ QB Edwards after the game…
Twelve of Edwards’ final 14 completions netted first downs. One other resulted in a touchdown that pulled the Bills within 23-21.
Edwards all but thanked Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan for calling off the dogs and giving him ample time to set up in the pocket and wait for a receiver to break free time and again.
“They weren’t bringing their pressure because they wanted to sit in coverage a little bit,” Edwards said. “So, they kind of settled down a little bit, and we were able to hit some throws and get the ball down the field.”
………………………..
What part of they stopped blitzing do you not understand?
4th QTR 10:06 1st and 10 Bills 36
The Raiders send Morrison, Howard and safety Tyvon Branch after Edwards.
He throws behind Evans.
4th QTR 5:44 3rd and 6 Bills 35 yd line
The Raiders send Howard on blitz. 22yd completion to Reed over Hall.
At some point the Raiders lost Gerard Warren with the neck / pec injury Jerry mentioned so their were guys like Richardson and Wakefiled playing DT and dudes like 3rd stringer Jon Alston in at LB.
Rookie safety Tyvon Branch had to fill for Wilson too remember?
Limited the play book, but the Raiders DID BLITZ 4th quarter.
You probably never even watched the damn game.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Our D gave up 300 yards in the second half and TWO nine point leads late in the 4th quarter….they deserve the brunt of the criticism.
And Oak, if that was the most dominating defensive game you have ever seen then I would suggest watch just one Eagles or Steelers game this year.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:08 pm
90 plus yard drives usually change/determine the game.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:08 pm
I figured it out Oakglenn is really Herrera.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:08 pm
With the injuries and rookies, you can hardly place all the blame on Ryan. This time anyway.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:08 pm
I know you are but what am I ? Is this where we are going OakGlenn? Name calling 2 support your man Rob Ryan ?
Hey Oak, my dad can beat up your dad
# Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:05 pm
MR and clown = Weasel and the Scumbag.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:09 pm
92591Raider,
that was funny. precise and funny. Kiffie must’ve read the words of that unnamed NFL exec who was not impressed with the “childish” handling of a foregone difficult situation. No one’ll want to touch the Kid as that man said and he’ll lose millions.
Think Mrs. Kiffin has been riding his ass about that?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:09 pm
offense did enough to win the game period.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:09 pm
320. Yeah, it was solid D till the injuries and fill ins came aboard.
No lie bought the Eagles. Whoa…
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Actually wagon those are NFL players on the other side. They are going to get points. No one pitches a shut out every single game except to some of the jokers posting on this site. Obviously they do it every Madden 09 game. Giving up 7 points in three quarters is not grounds to shoot the defense and the coach. Especially when your offense does nothing.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:10 pm
92591,
Just what “internal information” could you have been referring to earlier if Al Davis isn’t involved? The only “internal information” Kiffin revealed was Ryan and Davis bro-mancing over the defensive game plan every week. If it’s not true, then why do you fault Kiffin for releasing this “internal information”?
Basically; How’s that corner feel? You know, the one you just painted yourself into…
And, tell us again about how Kiffin isn’t going to be able to get a job because of his record here, despite the fact that Shanahan did just fine after Davis scapegoated him.
Just keep typing, Mr. Zip Code. I enjoy the entertainment.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:12 pm
OakGlenn, was the defense fresh the first half of the Denver game?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Oakglenn I agree Buffalo did a great job hats off, Point blank we where a stop away, a first down away, we where there, after the higgens touchdown i thought it was in the bank as most of us probably did, yet there were brightspots on both sides, theres no way kiffen should be fired after that, that is my agruement.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:12 pm
our offense is really gonna need to step up and control the clock against the dis-charge from the schlooongs. with our defense hurting the way it is, they dont need to be on the field as long.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:12 pm
By weds we have to get 2 d lineman or atleast a dt hell we will end up with a new coach n al trading a 1st n 2nd 4 a slower bum should chad johnson
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Oakglenn, did you ever tell us what that defense was called?
You know the one.
It’s the one we used at the end of the game, up by 2, where we gave the Bills about a 10 yard cushion to throw underneath? That one. What’s it called? Is there a name for it? I would call it the prevent defense, but it wasn’t tight enough.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Wagon, of the 16 points they scored before JLH’s TD, 10 were the direct result of the defense!! The defense handed the O the ball twice inside the 15 resulting in one TD and one FG. Basically, other than the JLH TD Kiff engineered 6 freaking points, which is exactly what he has engineered the last three games. That is not enough.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:13 pm
I STILL SAY WE TAKE DOWN THE DIS-CHARGERS…
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:13 pm
you know what is also a joke, Raiders.com always “filters” out the questions about Job security in Kiffins press confrence.
The Raiders are the equivelent of Cuba in the NFL, they think we are all stupid and just will follow every little propaganda they feed us.
I love the Raiders, I just want to know why what in the hell has been going on latley?????
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:13 pm
If the offense can score 23 points every sunday…
We win a lot of games in the future….
Our D’ has to bring it….
No slowing down in the 4th quarter..
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:14 pm
McFaddensWagon,
offense did enough to win what game? the one with the three field goals in the red zone in the first half this week? or the one with the field goals last week? Specify.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:15 pm
our 2nd pick has already gone to atlanta, hasnt it??
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:15 pm
STR,
You got that right…
We can win with a low scoring game….
Chargies have a short week…
Advantage Raiders…
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Norv Turner had a really tough time getting a job in the league after Davis fired him, didn’t he Mr. Zip Code? I call you Mr. Zip Code because I’m not going to waste my time memorizing the stupid thing. It’s as if anyone cares where you live. Try knowing something about football other than spinning for Al Davis, then maybe someone will be concerned about your locale.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:15 pm
MR you are a pile. And mistabronw is the worst poster in here. Nice to see you boys together.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Oakglenn I agree, but keep in mind we have a rookie qb with limited options on play calling, Kiffen is trying to keep are team in position to win by not turning the ball over and he did. I was shaky on the idea of the defense winning the game yet they where in position to put the win in the bag and they couldn’t. Don’t get me wrong the offense had there chance to but it’s a lot to ask a rookie qb.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:16 pm
No STR,
We already paid our 2nd to Atlanta…
Next yr 2009, we have all our picks…
As of today..
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Once again, there is MR being a MoRon. Al hired Norv didn’t he??? Al must be a fool. Well, MR’s hero, AJ Smith sure didn’t have a problem hiring Norv. As usual, MR argues both ways and loses both ways.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Oakglenn, what is the defense called that we used at the end? You know, the one where we gave their offense a huge cushion, even though we were only up by 2! That one, Oakglenn. What is it? Would you mind if I start calling it ‘the Oakglenn’?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:18 pm
On the bright side Kelly was actually a factor this game, all thou he sizzled out like the rest of the defense, minus ASO he’s a stud.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Waggon, I completely agree. BUT, Jam was 2/2 in the second half. The first pass completion was the only series we got a first down the entire half. he second completion resulted in 6. The guy was an overall number one. You might want to use him.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 pm
MR is a tool.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 pm
We better sign some DT’s this week why don’t we signs chad jackson too can’t be worse than Ron Curry
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Hey Jerry Herrera had your name in his mouth!
Are you just gonna except that?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 pm
MR,,,
You know who is being missed this yr…..
Mike Martz…. The Lions F’t up by letting that guy go to the 49ers..
They should have kept him….
The 49ers offense is playing a lot better this yr..
I think it’s MARTZ scheme thats turning that team around….
Alex Smith sucks !!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 pm
*sign*
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Oakglenn, you’re in no position to play commentator. It’s the Davis loyals on the hot seat tonight, because your idol got his ass handed to him today by Lane. You guys need to be explaining, not asking questions or making comments.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 pm
He has a lack of weapons one completion was a pass to the flat to the Fullback, which was a direct result of play action, and the second was a bullet of a pass to Higgens which has us all excited, about his potential putting a ball threw a hole. Point blank we outplayed them but didn’t make the crucial play on either side of the ball.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Thanks Roller. We all know. Somehow it thinks I will respond to it, but it’s garbage. I don’t respond to garbage. I respond to intelligent questions and statements.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:22 pm
I hear a farting sound coming from the 49ers side of the blog. Is that MR and his lame commentary??
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Hmmmm,
Our offense has pretty much a rookie QB, first year players in the backfield (one of which was banged up), injured starting HB and injured best blocking FB, absolutely no WRs, a patchwork o-line with another young player playing LT and the TE having to help pass protect…but they need to score more than 23 points…
…while the defense had no injuries going into this game, a $70 million dollar d-line, a $120 million dollar secondary and solid LBs, but they get another pass because they did their jobs for 3 quarters and suffered a couple of injuries?
Unreal.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Okay, all of you who advocated Vernon Gholston as the Raider’s first rounder in the past draft please stand up and take a bow. I’m sure you are yet haunting this site with your wisdom.
And, all of you who advocated Calvin Johnson as the ultimate- freak- game- changing- Super Bowl- bound- singular- WR last year, stand up and take a bow as well.
Some of you can double up on these names.
A crap shoot yes. Crapping out straightaway must be a hoot.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:23 pm
If Davis picked all the defensive players, the defensive coach, Jam, Dmac, Bush, the Oline, JLH, even Javon, then put me down as a DAvis guy again.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:23 pm
oh ok, thanks ghost rider.
man this team has alot of potential and so far we have only lost one game we shoulda won….live it, learn it.
3 games and 13 to go….. i still say 8-8 and maybe even 9-7.
plenty of football left to play no matter what and who is coaching, lotta of talent on this team.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:23 pm
on another bright note mario henderson……one word…..solid.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:24 pm
The Offense’s Fault!
The Defense’s Fault!
The Special Teams Fault!
No matter where you stand, Kiffin had it right. It was EVERYBODY’S FAULT!
The Offense could’ve done more. The Defense could’ve done more. And the Special Teams could’ve done more. A first down, a pass defended, a tackle made, a long kick return. Same for the playcalling. ON both sides of the ball. A huge team effort got us the 9 point lead, and another got us the loss.
The whole team is to blame.
But not anymore. Now you can blame it all on the new bad guy of the Oakland Raiders, your truly, John “it’s a lie!” Herrera!
FIRE HERRERA!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Oakglenn, was Al feeling pretty stupid today after Lane didn’t fall for his trick? You know, the one where he tried to have someone tell Kiffin he was fired? Lane didn’t bite. Just went on and did his press conference, and even got to see Herrera have a classic melt down. Oakglenn, it’s not Al Davis’s day. Or week. Or year. Or decade. Is it?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:24 pm
I’m glad to see candy MOSS geting his ass kicked…..
I hate Moss….
He did NOTHING!!
You little FAIRY QUITTER!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Kiffen is a stand up guys I like it, and are team plays like him a young coach learning to win.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:25 pm
AL DAVIS MUST GO ! AL DAVIS MUST GO ! AL DAVIS MUST GO !
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Tim K saying on his blog that his wife slaps his arm harder than Herrera did.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Hopefully Al could stop being scared of kiffen and talk to him like civilized human beings.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Oakglenn, does John Herrera drink? I’ll bet you he does after today. What do you think?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Dakota it is not that at all. The players played very well on both sides of the ball. Whoever was calling plays late in the game, did absolutely NOTHING to win. They ran up the gut repeatedly which clearly was not working. Or did you somehow see it working??? When we needed one first down, we could not get one. With an overall number one, and overall number 3, another potential Heisman back, a 2nd round TE, and others. Dakota you are OK with just rolling over??
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:27 pm
On the bright side, Robert Gallary has finally developed into a fine offensive linemen.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Kawakami got a bad cat for lunch today.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Kirk at No. 57,
Holy Sh!t brother. I think that’s the most sincerely angry and hateful thing I’ve ever seen posted on this board. And I was following on here during the 2-14 season.
Congratulations.
But I can’t say at this point that I want to see Rob Ryan “burn in hell” for not blitzing in the 4th quarter. Get back to me in a few weeks though.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Only lunch Kawakami ate today was John Herrera’s, A.I.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I think BHP wanted Ghoolston…Did’nt he???
Or did he want Dorsey from LSU….
I wanted DMAC or Li’l Howie…….
I’m glad we got DMAC……
C. Long looks like a lost puppy dog out there in ram land!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:29 pm
That little gook eats cats, Im sure of it,..and I bet he sucks at driving too…I hope he had lots of family in Hiroshima that we turned to dust.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:30 pm
So is anyone going to explain to me why you expect our young, inexperienced, injured and incomplete offense to out perform our overpaid, big name, high draft pick defense?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Herreras a loser..always hated that jerk. wish that jap would have gave him a nice karate chop.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:30 pm
no schit oakglenn…. running up the gut will not AND did not get us anywhere but 3 and out.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Um,.Dakota,..say that again?..wha?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:31 pm
On the bright side we have seen the potential of both sides of the ball, last week mcfadden and run game. This week defense, and Jamarcus potential to make a big throw.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:32 pm
this movie on hbo,..Reno 911/Miami is funny.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Oakglenn,,
I believe that they continued to run up the gut because of their success in K.C…..
Our WR’s suck…..
But where was Z Miller????
I think he was the key to winning…
JaMarcus threw no passes to him in the fourth…did he??
I could be wrong, but I barely notices Miller out there…
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Later NATION
you guys play nice!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Kawakami has been getting all the payback he needs for Hiroshima, making Al Davis look like a fool. Oh, wait, maybe not. Nobody in America cares about Al Davis.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:33 pm
hey waggon,..potential?…tell you what,..tune in sunday,..chargers might drop 60 on our potential.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Thanks South Tex!! AND WE DID IT TWICE!!! Once with a first and ten at midfield late in the 3rd and then at the end of the game. WTF??? Your QB at that point was 2/2 for 100 yards and a TD in the half. What should you do???? Oh sh**, don’t put the ball in his hands. You’ve been running it up the gut for nothing all half. Better run it up the gut!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm
I’ve gotta admit, I wanted the Raiders to get C. Long or trade down for the Cowboys’ two first-round picks in the draft.
A trade down may still have been good when you look at Chris Johnson (Tenn.) and Felix Jones (Dallas) and the chance to bolster the trenches.
But I’ve gotta give Al credit for sticking with McFadden. He’s got the look of a great RB in the making. If it wasn’t for slipping down on a bunch of carries because of that damn turf toe he would’ve broken off some longer runs on Sunday. Too bad because we could’ve used them.
Still, you can’t argue with the pick.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm
ghost rider al….teams are aware that Jamarcus likes to throw to miller and prepare for him. They take him away, and a lot of times this leaves jamarcus dumping it off, he’s yet to develop the ability to get it to his second and third options, the game has yet to slow up for him.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Coach & GM havent spoken in 3 weeks??????
M-i-s-m-a-n-a-g-e-m-e-n-t!
Wtf is Davis doing???
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm
kawakami eats cats,…he cant see too good, his eytes are all slanted in a weird way,…its an odd look for sure…he cant drive…typical jap.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:35 pm
MR where di your lap dog sistaclown go?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:35 pm
The sad thing about all this is, that when all is said and done, there’s going to be 3 things that are going to be hurt the most out of all this.
1- The Team
2- Our young and talented players
3- Us, the fans.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:36 pm
maybe hererra can get the mexican mafia on that fish head kawakami.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Jim Lofton, the chargers couldnt drop 60 on us if we had one person on defense, reason being LT would want the ball, Philip rivers would want to throw the ball, and norv turner would sit on the side lines bamboozelled.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Only MR would care about a presser. grasping at straws fat loser?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Oakglenn, what was the defense called that we used at the end? The one where we played 10 yards off the line, even though we were only up by 2? I would call it the prevent, but the prevent usually involves at least one defender looking for the 10 yard pass up the middle. Was the defense called the “prevent Kiffin from winning”?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 pm
FIRST, THE MEDIA SEEM TO WANT LANE FIRED , MAYBE THE NEWS PAPER SELLS ARE LOW : } . THE MAN HAS SAID HE HASN’T BEEN TOLD HE’S FIRED BUT THE ” MEDIA ” KEEPS ASKING THE SAME DUMB A** QUESTIONS. I WILL SAY THIS, LANE BROUGHT THIS ON HIMSELF AND WHEN YOU PLAY WITH FIRE …YOU GET BURNED. LANE OPEN THE DOOR FOR YOU GUYS AND NOW HE’LL BE ANSWERING THESE DUMB A** QUESTIONS ALL SEASON [ SCRATCH THAT ] UNTIL HIS CONTRACT IS UP. SECOND, STOP PLAYING [ SCRATCH ] COACHING NOT TO LOSE .. PREVENT OFFENSE…..
JUST WIN BABY,
MR. SNAKE
9HUNDRED RECORDS,INC.
OAKLAND,CA.
NINEHUNDREDRECORDSINC@YAHOO.COM
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Do I really care about Kawakami and the presser?? No. Why would I?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 pm
emraider,..grow up,..nobody is getting hurt,…the team?..how?…the young and talented players?..hardly,..the fans?…we quit caring years ago,…have a stiff drink, a toke, pop a pill,..chill out man.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Miller might be staying in to help Henderson too. I haven’t been paying close attention to what Miller is doing out there, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he has to block pretty often.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Holy Roller, it’s time for coffee, bud. Didn’t we already have a talk before about your drinking? You were posting hammered in the morning one time.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Are you the lap dog MR?? or is sistaclown?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:39 pm
A.I, Herrera doesn’t know any mobsters. He just imitates them, like Al. And very poorly at that. Kawakami stood up to him today, for crying out loud. Tony Soprano never had that problem.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Mcfaddenwaggon….
Was that it???
We should have put in Madsen….
Did he make the team????
I cant believe how bad our wide outs are!!
Micael Crabtree outta Tex. Tech would be a GREAT pick for us next yr…
That dude is awesome!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Roller, coffee time.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:40 pm
mcfaddendude,…they will score 60 sunday if they feel like it,..are you aware the raiders havent beaten the chargers since gannon played here?…been awhile dude they will do as they please sunday.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:40 pm
No. That was you being up all night from the techno clubs MR. Remember. You went home with some dude that night. You probably don’t remember.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Are defense is good when we blitz and it makes perfect sense, ASO stud, 2 catches on him all season. Hall is ok when pressing horrible when playing with a cushion. Michael huff is a goodt cover saftey, Stanford route is a solid nickel. Are linebackers are fast. Are defense is horrible when sitting back in zone examples buffalo second half, denver whole game, we have holes in are zone, and speedy small recievers seem to bother us, examples, ROYAL, and ROSCOE.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:40 pm
you use condoms now right MR?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:41 pm
God I hate it when you call me ai,…reminds me I lost my insider,..works for A`s now,….bummer.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:41 pm
If Tim Kawakami is your hero MR you are more of a loser than any of us could possibly imagine.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Awesome:
After action report part 2 http://www.raidernationstation.com
THEY DID BLITZ!
I had no idea Alston and Trevor Scott played.
With Tyvon and Wakefield no wonder we couldn’t get it done.
You can lay off Ryan now…
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:42 pm
oh man that was funny,..reno 911/miami
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Chris,,,,
Miller needs to be a focal point in our offense!!
I heard Tom Flores say that JaMarcus zings the ball with velocity and accuracy in practice,but he falters on Sundays….
Whats up with that???
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:42 pm
If Herrera were even a mob associate, he’d get whacked for letting Tim Kawakami get in his face and talk smack the way he did. And, didn’t Al try to hit a reporter with a cane last year? Carlo Gambino never needed the cane, know what I’m saying? A phone call was all he needed.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Haha. oakglenn. good one. kamakami is MR’s favorite player on the team.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:43 pm
“You can lay off Ryan now…”
Ok, maybe lay on him a little…
Kiffin’s convervative play calling late hurt oo ya know…
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:44 pm
You guys shouldnt worry about that dwarf little gook,..who cares…hes 4′8″,..thats tall for a jap.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:44 pm
I dont think are defense matches up to bad against the chargers. Huff has always played gates well. Yes over the years LT has killed us but this year against the run where fairly solid. ASO will shut down his half of the field, and Hall seems to have trouble with the small fast ones, Chargers won’t put up 40 against us. I’ll go out on a limb they won’t put up 30.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Nnamdi of course they blitzed. That’s what I am saying. Some of these knuckleheads don’t have ANY IDEA what is going on out on a football field. MR, Clown, looking at you here.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Oakglenn, it’s been a rough day for Al Davis, hasn’t it? Did any of you nimrods really think that Kiffin would fall for that rouse? You guys must have been furious when he just got out there and did the press conference, like nothing happened. Herrera sure was.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:45 pm
yea they blitzed. kamakawi didn’t blitz tho did he MR.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:45 pm
The Chargers blow.
They’ll miss the playoffs this year and Tomlinson is clearly on his last legs. Who knows if a post-steroids, post-surgery Merriman will ever be any good. Norv is no prize. Rivers is a complete weenie. I hope Thomas Howard just lights him up on Sunday. Someone should totally crush that fool.
The Chargers are teetering on the edge of a cliff and the Raiders will kick their ass over the side this Sunday.
See you in 20 years Super Chokers.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Oakglenn, do you know John Herrera personally?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Zzzzzzz….good wine tonight,…Meridian again,…got sick of Ironstone.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Holy Roller, you’re funnier when your sober. When you’re drunk, you get too hung up on one particular thing. If you don’t believe me, just come back and review your comments tomorrow.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:47 pm
I say we run that play the Dolphins run with ronnie brown and let mcfadden do that, triple threat.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Wine’s pretty popular in San Franciso, A.I. Especially in the Castro. Done any tasting there?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:47 pm
I hope Kiffin gets an extension,…I like him,…I would like to see ryan gone though.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Nope,..Napa,..Healdsburg,…Sonoma…dont get to sf.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:48 pm
We’ve all wanted ryan gone for years now. Al Davis must have flashbacks and think that its his dad, when really its the son Rob Ryan who has done nothing in this league.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Rob Ryan not blitzing in the fourth quarter of all our games is why we lose.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:49 pm
or first quarter example….Denver
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:49 pm
I’m just saying, A.I, they drink a lot of wine in Frisco, especially in places like the Castro. I see you drink your wine elsewhere. That’s cool.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:49 pm
ok one question………….y did it take the players to go up to the coach and tell him to blitz?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:50 pm
dam right chris…..
WE WILL WIN SUNDAY……if we lose i will not post until our next win.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:50 pm
A.I., if you’ve changed your tune on Kiffin, you might want to consider a new screen name and web link.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:51 pm
alright nation, goodnite, hang in there, hopefully Al is not as crazy as everyone thinks. Key word HOPE
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Oh man,..this tv show, Intervention,..its about this dude,..pill addict,…lol…good timing huh?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:51 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:50 pm
dam right chris…..
WE WILL WIN SUNDAY……if we lose i will not post until our next win.
________________________________________________
See you after the KC game STR!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:52 pm
nah,..I like this name and link,…keepin it….i will let you be the one who needs multiple identities.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:53 pm
i doubt it dakota,..kc will win for their only win of the year,..we coin toss with them for number one pick.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:53 pm
mcfaddenswaggon Says:
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:47 pm
I say we run that play the Dolphins run with ronnie brown and let mcfadden do that, triple threat.
——————————————————-
very true. he can throw. i bet that would be good to back up the defense a bit.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Watching the NFL Network///That little weASLE DION. SANDERS BAGGING ON THE RAIDERS SAYING THAT THE TEAM IS A LOSING ORGANIZATION THAT HAS NO CONFIDENCE!!
BUT XCOACH OF THE 49ERS/LIONS DEFENDED THE RAIDERS SAYING….THAT TEAM, THE RAIDERS WAS IN A SUPER BOWL JUST 5 YRS AGO WHICH IS MORE THAN I CAN SAY FOR CERTAIN TEAMS THAT HAVE NOT WON A PLAYOFF GAME(COWBOYS) IN SOME TIME!!!
SHUT YOU UP DION!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:54 pm
I think I saw that program, A.I. Intervention. The pill addict. The guy also goes to every Raider game and gives a bunch of racist drivel. It ends with him tossing and turning on a sidewalk, with Tim Kawakami stepping over him.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:54 pm
man this show, Intervention, sucks..hate it,…hope none of my people try and spring this crap on me…sheesh.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:55 pm
SAINTS-BRONCOS ONE-LINERS
Posted by Mike Florio on September 22, 2008, 10:43 p.m.
Said CB Champ Bailey of Denver’s 34-32 win, “We’ve got to be the luckiest team right now.”
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so dam fahqin true……..very fahqin lucky!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Kawakami would need a ladder to step over me,.lol…but thanks for the warning, I will hide my cat.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:56 pm
That actually was a good comeback by Mooch, ghost rider. But crossfire is the format of those shows. Mooch also knows how bad Al is screwing the Raiders up, and how dumb Al Davis has to feel after today. How embarrassing. Kiffin ate Al’s lunch today.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:56 pm
funny dakota
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:57 pm
i saw that too ghost rider,..it was clear mooch wants to coach again and knows its the raiders or nothing.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:58 pm
I’ll hide your cat from you, A.I. No doubt you’ve eaten a couple on your pill and booze benders. Homeless people will eat anything.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:58 pm
STR,,
BRONCO LUCK WILL EVENTUALY SWING INTO BAD LUCK…
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST…
WAIT N’ SEE!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:59 pm
dang madden, thats the 2nd “ate his lunch” reference in the last 20 minutes,..you must like it!!!…lol
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Just to show that Mooch and Deion’s exchange was likely staged, ghost rida, Deion could have easily came back by flashing the rings. Mooch doesn’t have any.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Night all….
M, just remember…
Don’t take VI@GRA if you take nitrates, often prescribed for chest pain, as this may cause a sudden, unsafe drop in blood pressure.
Discuss your general health status with your doctor to ensure that you are healthy enough to engage in s3xual activity. If you experience chest pain, nausea, or any other discomforts during s3x, seek immediate medical help.
As with any ED tablet, in the rare event of an erection lasting more than 4 hours, seek immediate medical help to avoid long-term injury.
(Just looking out for my elders)
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:00 pm
447. Hells to the yeah.
Way to shut him up Mooch.
3 super bowls Deion. 3
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:00 pm
nope, not homeless,..you still are bad at guessing after all this time,..keep trying though bro.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:00 pm
only a loser like MR would have a chump soon to be out of work writer as his hero. good one MR. youve reached a new low.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:01 pm
That’s because there is no better reference.
Kiffin’ ate Al’s lunch.
Kawakami ate Herrera’s lunch.
It’s just about literally true.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:01 pm
MR,
I UNDERSTAND THAT…..
BUT DION HAS ALWAYS BEENA HATER…
WHY DOES’NT HE TALK ABOUT HIS COWBOYS NOT WINNING A PLAYOFF GAME SINCE ….WHEN 92′
AL DAVIS MIGHT BE AN IDIOT…..BUT I’M SURE THE CLEVELAND BROWNS AND DETROIT LIONS WISH THEY HAD HIS SUCCESS!!
MARIUCCI SLAPPED HIM DOWN…AND THAT WAS COOL TO SEE…
HOPEFULLY WE CAN PUT IT IN THEIR FACE NEXT WEEK VS SAN DIEGO….
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Gotta run, king of queens is on,..later,.and mr, cheer up bud!!..tomorrow is another day,..maybe you will feel better by then?..night!
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:02 pm
I said you’ll end up homeless, A.I. Give it time.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:02 pm
A.I, I’m not the one who had an ass made out of myself today. That’s Al Davis and John Herrera. But I’ll join you in wishing them a cheerful tomorrow. Take it easy on the pills, A.I. Later.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Actually, I don’t wish Al Davis and John Herrera a cheerful tomorrow. I hope Kiffin continues clowning them. This is good. If we’re not going to win, might as well take joy in Kiffin pulling the mask off the entire organization.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:05 pm
other than the other writers who stand up for each other who cares? only a loser like MR. wheres your lap dog sistabrown?
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:06 pm
WELL I’LL CATCH YOU GUYS LATER….
HOPEFULLY WE KEEP KIFFIN ATLEAST THRU THIS SEASON….
BUT IF WE DONT WIN ATLEAST 6 GAMES THIS SEASON….
I SAY CUT HIM LOOSE!!
G’NITE!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:06 pm
you calling others homeless MR? Don’t you live in your car?
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Hitting the Gay bars tonight MR? Hitting the bottoms up? maybe the Rear Admirals?
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
I just want to thank all of my clueless fans out there; you have stuck with me through years of blowing 4th quarter leads because I look like a Raider and I use the F word a lot.
Thankfully, you are as dumb as A. Davis and let me slide while three head coaches have paid the price for my incompetence. I can’t wait until A. Davis names me Head Coach, but if he doesn’t, don’t worry, my scheme will make certain that Lofton fails too.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Dakota,a wager?You say we wont win until the end of NOV,lets see how much interest is out there,lets come up with the prize! Raiders will win before the KC game,lets get it goin!come back
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Rear Hole Priest, Oakglenn, Willie, M, Florida Pete, thank all of you for ignoring the obvious and placing the blame on Kiffen.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:19 pm
mr=missessss raider
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Does Mooch want a coaching job?
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:22 pm
My family has won 5 super bowls. I won two of them in NE as a janitor. I am the man and Mr. Davis knows it.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:23 pm
post475,bite the bag
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Winnie, I already bite Mr. Davises bag and it is very hairy so I dont think i can get yours in my mouth to.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:28 pm
post480,youre lost,try the other side of the bay,gaybird
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Just wait till you see what Mr. Davis and me have cooked up for San Diego! Rivers will go to the pro-bowl and Kiffen will be blamed by my clueless followers. Mr. Davis will have a lot of support to fire Kiffen after the San Diego game believe you me.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:31 pm
I think we should get rid of coach K yesterday. I am the very best ever at playing Madden. Let me coach the team. I would open up the offense bigtime and the one thing that I am sure I can do is manage the game clock much better than Kiffin. Let me be the next Raider HC. I know what timeouts are for. I am the greatest ever at playing Madden. I think that I could be the greatest Raider Coach ever, At least much better then Kiffin.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Mr. Davis needs a rub down, and he like the feel of my wiskers on his taint, so I better get a move on.
BE RIGHT THEIR MR. DAVIS! I JUST HAVE TO PUY SOME BRISTLE CREAM ON MY BEARD AND BRUSH MY TEETH!
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:39 pm
I didn’t name myself MaddenRaider after a video game, retard.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Did Holy Roller finally black out?
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:43 pm
You guys, just imagine how Al Davis must be feeling right now. We know he’s awake, staring at the ceiling. He really thought Lane Kiffin would fall for an Al lackey telling him he was fired, without anything in writing. Didn’t work. I imagine the way Al feels right now is close to how he felt after Super Bowl 37. What do you guys think?
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:50 pm
I think you are probably right. He probably has the stupid look on his face like when the cameras go to him during the game and he just sits the with his mouth open in a daze. Maybe he will come to his senses for a few seconds and realize Kiff needs to be coach and then go back to senile ways. Is it possible he can be senile and realize Kiffin needs to be the coach at the same time? I hope so!
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Can we get someone to go in and hypnotize Al into keeping Kiff and hiring a GM?
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 am
Am I blocked from posting?
Go Raiders….
Raider on,
Guamanian Raider
p.s. moderator: if not, please clarify reason for disallowing post
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:36 am
Where has Bob Marley been? Did the Raiders let him go? Is he spinning for another team now?
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:46 am
I blog! I’m blogging!
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:52 am
I’m blogging tonight, big time!
Video of Herrera’s meltdown today.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2008/09/22/the-raiders-john-herrera-vs-me-in-front-of-the-cameras-today-well-that-was-fun/
I’m blogging! I blog!
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:57 am
Going into what amounted to be a Prevent Defense with a Quarter to go???? What were the coaches thinking?
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:03 am
That’s impressive, Oakglenn. Your bloggingness. But tell me something, why are the Raiders so tough off the field, but so weak on the field? That’s the question that’s been circling around the sporting world for, I dunno, a couple of decades now.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:13 am
Agreed, Intense. The only use for a prevent defense is to let the opponent kill their own clock when you have an insurmountable lead. I know some teams get away with using variations of it in close games, but god knows any team ran by Al Davis has never been one of them. You could write a book on all of the times throughout history that Al Davis choked using this defense. There should be a drinking game for every time Al prematurely uses a prevent D. Nobody would be able to walk.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:19 am
Oakglenn – Sorry to disagree with you – yes, dominant performance through 3 and 1/3 quarters – nobody disagrees with that – but Rob Ryan switched to an Al Davis Special – the man prevent – you said you watched more games than 99% of us – tell me you haven’t seen that bs scheme before in the 80’s and 90’s – man prevent – soft man coverage that still leaves you dependent on a 4 man rush (or three as Ryan went to) and with little help over the top – play deep 1/3 safeties for god’s sake – soft man prevent went out of style when modern offenses came into existence with spread formations – the whole term “prevent defenses prevent you from winning” came into being precisely because of the soft man prevent – we are the only team that runs that sh*t – you think rob ryan is a good def. coordinator – Sapp playing DE in a 3-4 with Brayton and Irons at OLB? dropping 11 back with no pass rush vs. cleveland? multiple osses directly due to the fact that ryan runs a man prevent when he gets a lead? Puh-lease.
You said it perfectly – Warren went out and we had to put in Wakefield – one, that speaks to poor personnel decisions by Al Davis for not acquiring better depth, two, that speaks to Rob Ryan’s incompetence. What did Kiffin do to compensate for the fact that he had to start mario henderson? developed a scheme to mitigate the fact that mario sux. And it worked. What did Rob Ryan do? Nothing. When he couldn’t get pressure with 4 rushers, he switched to 3 three rushers and hoped the extra defenders would stop the pass – newsflash – everyone knows that any decent NFL QB will tear up a D if they have enough time, especially vs. a man defense and even more especially if it’s vs. our bs soft man prevent. Rob Ryan was successful because he augmented the four man rush through 3 and 1/3 quarters with the blitz and threat of a blitz. He failed when he decided to play not to lose and played his terrible Al Davis prevent defense, the direct equivalent of the antiquated Tom Walsh offense. If you don’t scheme to mitigate your weaknesses, other teams will exploit it. There is no excuse to give up a 1st and 20. As I said before, Rob’s defensive schemes had the CB follow the WR (who was performing a crack back block on the DE) in motion therefore taking him out of the play and opening up the flat by 1. not being there and 2. screening out our LB who was in man coverage which left a massive hole in our coverage. That’s pop warner (or should I say Hutchinson Community College) bush league play calling. Put the team in a zone, blitz the hell out of Edwards and force him to throw short and get rid of the ball before the play can develop. When you know the other team has to pass, attack them. We lost this game for one reason and one reason only. Rob Ryan switching the play calling to soft man D. That kept the D out there, let them get punched in the mouth for 30 plays in a row, and wore them down to the point where they had nothing left in the tank. Talk all you want about the perfect game Rob Ryan called up to that poing, but he was in charge of protecting two 9 point leads with less than 10 minutes to go and he FAILED. What’s more, I, along with a bunch of others on this blog, called it. I knew we would lose as soon as Rob switched the scheme. The fool never learns and only recently started blitzing (probably at Al Davis’ direction after Kiffin called them out) the last two games. Surprise – it works! don’t get away from it – play to win, etc. etc. etc.
I posted three pages on this and I’ll rewrite it all to prove my point if necessary. Fire Rob.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:46 am
Jediraider
Mario henderson was our best lineman last game. There were several runs that went to his side, in fact all of our longest runs were to the left. You don’t have to formulate much of a scheme when a guy is playing that well. Also kiff had the advantage of knowing Harris was out, no one could have predicted that warren would go down. Additionally the lack of depth could be contributed to kiff’s affection for special teams guys and his soft spot for Wakefield, in reality we should have retained Joseph for depth if not for his stout play against the run.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:04 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OuOKSJUU4A
Rob Ryan admits he doesn’t have a “prevent defense” – that would be the soft man coverage prevent I’ve been bitchn about – interesting video of Kiffin – rare to see him outside of a controlled media environment – he’s actually got some charisma and personality – I can see why al made the choice despite the lack of credentials and why he’s debating the firing -
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:05 am
Also it was not Ryan who played not to lose it was kiffin, he chose to put the defense in that situation. Kiff did not have good playcalling in this game and that hurt us late. Early on we had used a read option play with mcfadden at an and it worked to perfection yet we never saw it again. Late in the game Ryan had to protect a lead and protect Branch who was in for Gibril and it hurt us. Your no nonsense tell it like it is head coach agreed with RR decision to go to a softer zone, which btw was not a prevent and some of you idiots keep calling it that, and kiffin acknowledged the impact that not having gibril in had on the gameplan. RR was playing a cover 3 NOT A PREVENT!!!!!!!! I have to rewatch the last drive but to that point there was no prevent, some of you need to learn what fcuk a prevent D is. Kiffin did not call a horrible game but he did not adjust to what was working, buffalo has a very fast and young d that tends to overpursue, some misdirection plays would have been highly effective. Like I said the read option, draws, screens, would have all worked. Perhaps what would have been the most effective play is a reverse bootleg, get Russell on the move and match Miller on a lb and simplify the reads for J-rock.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:05 am
Jerry you seemed to have missed a small incident at the press conference! I have watched that video a couple of times. I am so so proud to be a Raider fan right now! Having the best hour and a half belly laugh, reading comments from all over the country, I would just like to thank the Raider organization but mostly Big John Herrara The 60 year old Gangsta. This has been priceless!!! I didn’t think I could still laugh this hard. Priceless I tell ya!
Did I distribute a flyer in this room? No! Your a Liar! Did I distribute a flyer in the hall? Oh you might have me there!
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:08 am
Howie,
Is that on raiders.com???
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:19 am
Jedi,
Absolutely agree with one statement. You are correct when you said shen you know a team has to pass you should bring the blitz. Some delayed blitzes would have been perfect, especially with the speed of Howard and Morrison. Early on the 4 man rush was as good as a blitz, but later on it faltered and RR should have made more of an adjustment. He needs to watch tape of the eagles d and what they do in obvious passing situations.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:40 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
November 8th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
“Every team knows that if you just keep the game close with the Raiders they will eventually blow up and lose the game.”
that schit is pretty f#ckin accurate and on que.
i bet thats the last sentence in all the opposing teams preparation booklets for us this year alone.
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:00 am
some on defence wanted 2 blitz but they were cooked.We need more conditioning,rest Dmac and let Bush carry the load.Get JLH more involved,hes awesome
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:14 am
“The Raiders prefer to use Paul McQuistan exclusively on the left side.”
Hey isn’t McQuistan on injured reserve?
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:53 am
With all this going on I figured you guys would start talking about how Davis calls the sidelines with plays to run on offense, but I guess that rumor been squashed by Kiffin saying he has not talked to the owner. Now we get to see how the media really does bait the Raider rumor mill by Jason Jones admitting that nobody received the article in question, good luck with more rumor mongering.
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:54 am
Al Davis is so senile that he can’t see how that scrub Rob Ryan called the Dogs off of the Bills in the 4th quarter.Rob Ryan should be Locked up for that move and Fired!!Plus,Al Davis is causing all of this turmoil within his organization and it’s trickling down to everyone else.What about trying to get your team preparred to play football on game day.No,Als got everyone asking them questions about everything else instead of Football.Al and Rob Ryan=problem.Al,lets put all of this internal nonsense to rest and lets get this thing turned around so we can get back to playing football on game day by fighting on the field against our opponents not internally within yourselves.It’s early the season is still wide open.There is time to change for the better but,you must stop this B.S. before its too late!!!
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:56 am
The sad thing about all of this is many people seem to think coaching is going to make a difference in wins and losses this season. It won’t because we do not have enough DEVELOPED TALENT yet.
Coaching will help develop the talent but we are at least one solid draft away from contending for a playoff spot.
Kiffin and staff are doing a great job with a young developing team. Those that do not think so do not understand how pathetic 2006 really was.
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:58 am
Thats what is so funny, the only internal fighting is with the press, by media buffs frustrated to get a story from Davis, good luck with that.
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:01 am
I told you guys Wilson was a liability versus the pass just like they said he was in New York.
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:02 am
This is what we get…….they shoukd know we’re gonna get hit with injuries so they do nothin to add depth to the team. I guess considering playing a TE as a DT is acceptable on this team how pathetic! We should have kept william joseph, shoot bring his arse back damn do something we need more beef! Oline and dline
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:04 am
Wilson hasn’t been exposed to the pass its D.Hall that’s the liability that damn busta. Wilson has been what we needed at the position, solid in the box agains the run and a solid tackler
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:06 am
He did not look solid getting pushed into the endzone then trying to bitch slap the player that did it before getting ejected.
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:10 am
I agree charlie we have a real young team that is still developing we just need time…..being in a league where they want instant results, we have to have a solid foundation and build this team, and we will be there soon
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:13 am
Sith cmon man that was one play and do you think he can help much when we have a TE in on that play,playing DT getting thrown like a sack of potatoes?
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:20 am
If Millen gets canned, maybe Al should think about bring him on as GM. I guaruntee none of this front office crap will be going on under him.
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:23 am
McQustian is on IR. WE should try out Ed up in smoke Johnson or Rod Coleman
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:27 am
Yo dice ya man im feeling you on those 2 guys is grady jackson still out there?
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:29 am
#10 hit the nail on the head in responding to Goon and all the other fans out there screaming at Al ” Yo, Fire Kiffin’s azz, yo!” Despite ending the drama in theory, it would hurt Russell’s development.And the team would have to learn yet another system. More importantly, like he said, who is going to coach? Who is going to be willing to take the job. I’m not sold on Lofton as a head coach or Ryan.Calling for Kiffin to fired, especially in mid-season means you aren’t thinking.Finally I am afraid without Warren, LT will hang 200 yards on us come Sunday.
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:33 am
morning…is Kiffin still with us?
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:36 am
Yeah scary thought about LT, I agree wholeheartedly we are not prepared to have a coaching change on this team davis and the suits upstairs will destroy the raiders and the development of russell
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:41 am
Hey, I am running late so gotta role but you guys have to go to profootballtalk.com and see the fight that went down at the press conference yesterday before it get taken down. Interesting $&it…………
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:49 am
Dakota..
yup, I think so =)
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:50 am
I’ve watched the game 3 times now, I really tried to see it like those who want Kiffin gone.. but I must admit I come up with the same conclusion.. its Rob Ryans fault..
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:21 am
Wakefield will play often on Sunday. we were thin to begin with and Sands isn’t an every down player! Move Richardson there and give Kalimba Edwards more time at DE. Scott and Wakefield could split time at the other side if Burgess injury is serious.
Activate John Wade and let him back up both guard spots. Kwame Harris backup LT.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:22 am
Kiffin has said it many times. This team does not have a GM . Yesterday was a perfect example of why the Raiders are the Bengal’s of the late 80’s and 90’s. There was talk back then of pressure being put on the bengals owner (Brown)… the same must be done to Al Davis. This just needs to stop man. No one will want to coach here . No one. Should the raiders hire a 25 year old college intern?
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:31 am
HA Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha….
Did you guys see me run on Sunday…..Byatches!!!!!!!
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:33 am
I wonder what a page ad in the Oakland tribune costs for sunday to tell Al to leave kiffin in and to fix his organization, that many fans are fed up with the shennigans, but still behind the team and the players.
and then signed and a link to the keepkiffin web site.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:39 am
why have we not signed a big fat defensive tackle?
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:39 am
As a season ticket holder since the return in 95′ I am done with Al and his goons! I am not going to any more games and giving my tickets up, thats it! The orgainization is a complete embarassment. I know many of the poeple I have sat with in section 118 feel the same way, they are done with old man Al! In fact I hear there could be a big effort this weekend at the Chargers game by many fans who will let Al know they want Kiffin to stay and that Al SUCKS! But I will not be there because I am not giving that myopic old man any more of my $ or loyalty.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:42 am
Trade John Herrera for Matt Millen.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:47 am
AL-
Is that the guy you’re listening to..?
Judging by his interaction with that lame reporter, I think you need to find more inside guys…you guys operate like some sort of gang it looks like, with Herrara playing the tough guy at age whatever…tell that old fart to sit down and let the KID do the talking..Al, the kid may have displayed a little disloyalty, but Mr. Herrara is not doing you any favors AT ALL…
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:48 am
Where did you pluck this guy from? A bar in the Fruitvale District?
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:48 am
Rob Ryan sucks
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:50 am
Embarassed Says:
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:33 am
I wonder what a page ad in the Oakland tribune costs for sunday to tell Al to leave kiffin in and to fix his organization, that many fans are fed up with the shennigans, but still behind the team and the players.
and then signed and a link to the keepkiffin web site.
I think everyone should print out that Keep Kiffin sign……………Can you imagine a sea of white in the stadium? Wouldn’t it be awesome if someone sponsored a bunch of t-shirts with the logo on it and they handed them out in the parking lot. I think 70 thousand fans, ok I am being optimistic, but a lot of fans in the Mca….I mean Oakland what ever stadium would be a great sight!
Maybe we could blind the old bastyrd while we are at it!
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:51 am
Alot of you guys crack me up. We COULDNT PLAY MAN IN THE LAST 6 MINUTUES even if we wanted to because our D was GASSED!!! Hello? Even D-Hall admitted he was gassed. Even Kiff had to take a time out because he saw our D was gassed. Stop whining about the D. When your O was only 2-12 on drives, the D will get tired. We got unlucky when they converted that long third down from their 1 and they drove on us.
Until we start playing some offense, we aint going to win anything. Stop whining already…jeezzzz
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:52 am
I mean, did you see this guy? Walking around with his shirt hanging out his waist, then in the middle of the confrontation with Captain Yuppie Tim Kawakami, pull up his pants around his fat waist?
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:56 am
#57, thank you…
three times in the red zone, three field goals..
What happened to throwing the ball to Zach once, coach.?
Come on kiff, use your playbook
USE THOSE PLAYS, DAMMIT!
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:56 am
I wish we could just go back to wondering who Kiffin was dancing with at the combine, Ahhh! the good ol days
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:58 am
Was watching Mike and Mike this morning, Golic made a great point. He was saying that behind all this front office chaos and dysfunction, the actual team is looking much better than last year, and is quietly improving from week to week. The Denver game was just Shanny with a perfect game-plan to pick apart our defense, KC we pounded them into the ground with our run game, and in Buffalo we lost by a point in the final seconds to a playoff bound team (on the road).
That seam route to JLH was our first real good looking pass-play of the year, the running game seems to be on track, and despite what RR does to ruin things, that defense clearly has some talent. If we had a half decent offense, we would have destroyed Buffalo on Sunday with all those turnovers and stops in the first 3 quarters. The offense just has not found its rythm yet, but that will come with time. Kiff is bringing Jam along with a good foundation of protecting the ball and managing the game. Soon enough he will be making all the throws.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:58 am
And Al, please tell your GUY he needs a little thicker skin if thats the way he reacts to a 49er beat writer..they already have it in for the Raiders, so don’t waste your time..instead, answer questions only from media typre who have a preference for Raider football, like me……
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:00 am
Hey Raider Fan……Did you see when he gave himself a murphy. It almost looked like backwards mooseknuckle!
http://www.lonnieknuckle.com/images/mooseknuckle.jpg
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:06 am
Dear Al Davis:
What is wrong with you? Don’t you want to win games. I know you say you do, but I am not so sure. I have been a Raiders’ fan since 1986, and it has become increasingly more difficult over the years to believe in this team. Your ego and antiquated management practices are preventing your beloved Raiders from winning. You and your team are the laughing stock of the sports world. If you have any sense left, do not fire Coach Kiffin and please, for the sake of all Raiders’ fans, hire a real GM. The game passed you by twenty years ago.
Sincerely,
A Raiders fan.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:06 am
Its 10:06 AM and Rob Ryan still sucks.
That is all.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:16 am
But, but (sniff, sniff) we did blitz in the 4th quarter. You didn’t even watch the damn game!
………………………………
Nnamdi21, you sound like a woman. Like having a discussion with my wife.
I don’t care what your little raidersfan blog friends had to say. THE QB FROM THE OTHER TEAM would know more about the defense than anyone WATCHING THE GAME!
VVVVVVVVVV
Edwards all but thanked Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan for calling off the dogs and giving him ample time to set up in the pocket and wait for a receiver to break free time and again.
“They weren’t bringing their pressure because they wanted to sit in coverage a little bit,” Edwards said. “So, they kind of settled down a little bit, and we were able to hit some throws and get the ball down the field.”
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:17 am
Did he say smoke potters?
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:18 am
AL IS GOD
Y0U ACT LIKE ITS THE OFFENSE FAULT FOR NOT STOPPING THE OTHER TEAM ON THERE MANY 3RD DOWN CONVERSION. IN MY EYES THE DEFENSE IS BETTER THAN THE OFFENSE AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COUNT ON THEM TO FINISH OUT GAMES. ITS NOT LIKE THE OFFENSE CAME UP SHORT THEY THREW NO PICKS SO HOW IS THE OFFENSE AT FAULT
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:19 am
This is what I told Tim,
Tim,
My man. Glad to see you called that bastyrd to the mat. Although I will say you got punked. As a man, with someone putting their finger in my face, he is trying to bait you yes, but he is also questioning your manhood. I know your a niner guy, but even niner fans have rights. Step up next time like you have a pair and put your foot in his azz. I would have stomped him into next year! Way to go though. Do it again!
Thanks,
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:20 am
GOOD QUOTE K-ROCK
EVEN THE OTHER TEAM KNOWS WE STOPPED PRESSURING THE QB
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:20 am
Kiffin even said he agreed with Ryan’s call on the zone defense. He was willing to give up 5 yard completions and make a tackle, but a few missed tackles and the plays turned into 15 and 20 yard plays.
This even shows how stupid Kiffin can be. 2 five yard completions equal a first down. First downs mean the other team is still moving the ball.
They went 96 yards dinking and dunking on the Raiders soft zone D. This is what gassed the defense.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:24 am
How are the Raiders going to score or stop the Chargers from scoring to keep it close this week ? That is going to be hard enough without the pissing contest thats going on right now.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:25 am
Al Bundy Davis is at the same level of ownership as the Rams…………………
He paid a price for players, that can’t play. He is in the spot light when things go good and takes all the credit, but when his decision making goes bad he starts to point the finger at others. Why keep Hall and Ryan around ??
Al Bundy Davis has ripped-off the fans, the tax payers of Oakland. Oakland deserves a better team owner.
Just sell baby…………….and so it is !!
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:25 am
YOUR RIGHT K ROCK AND IM NOT SAYING KIFFIN IS NOT TO BLAME BUT I DNT THINK HE HAS A SAY IN THE OFFENSE R DEFENSIVE PLAYS IN OAKLAND COACHES ARENT ALLOWED TO COACH. ONE MORE THING JOHNIE LEE HIGGINS SHOULD BE BENCHED FOR HIS STUPIDITY WHEN HE SCORED THAT TOUCH DOWN HE ALMOST GOT CAUGHT.
WHERE IS JAVON WHEELCHAIR HE CANT EVEN WALK LET HIM TELL IT
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:25 am
K….
Do you thik Kiffin wants to admit in public that he disapproved of the defense calling? Look at the video of the final drives. He looked pissed as hell and he was looking in Ryans direction. Don’t take the bait on that one. I am sure he was told to back off Ryan and blasting him in the media. Hell maybe Ryan told him,
“Look Kiff, you and I know that I am gonna leave here next year. Lets just get through this year, without bashing my name, I will go into the public and rant and rave like a little byatch to get the pressure off of you, but just keep my name out yo mouf byatch!”
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:28 am
I THINK THE MORE THE RAIDERS PLAY THE MORE KIFFIN LOOKS LIKE HE KNOWS HIS STUFF DURING THE PRESEASON HE SAID THAT HE WASN’T WORRIED ABOUT THE STARTING PLAYERS BUT THE BACK UP PLAYERS WE HAVE LIKE IF JAMARCUS GETS HURT THE ONLY POSTION THAT IS SOLID IS RUNNING BACK AND THATS GETTING THIN, KIFFIN WAS RIGHT WE NEED BETTER PLAYERS ON THE BENCH THAT CAN COME IN AND MAKE A IMPACT
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:29 am
Get Millen in here asap He did once punch the Pats owners son after a game. Thats the kind of leadership we need around here.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:30 am
Ya know, it occurs to me that if members of the media in general invested one-eighth the amount of effort into uncovering all the crimes and lies of the present U.S. administration as they do trying to dig up dirt on the Raiders, there would be a large number of folks in D.C. and elsewhere on their way from the White House to the Big House for a long long time.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:34 am
Did you see that video of Tim Kawakami and John Herrera. How I wish I was there and could have punched that little turd in the face for all the lies he has spread about our team over the years.
I wish I knew where that little weasel lived I would punch him for Herrera!!!
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:35 am
Don’t give up the ship men, for we have just begun to fight! Al will be gone soon and hopefully baby kiffin and Ryan sooner.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:39 am
We need some DTs! Even before Warren’s injury we only had 3 guys, and Kelly was out of shape coming into the season, and we know Turd Sands is good for 1 maybe even 2 plays per game. Al, Bring in some DTs! no wonder our D is getting gassed at the end of games, we only have 3 dts and one of them sweats lard! jeesh
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:41 am
can somebody please explain this article to me..
contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_10533705?nclick_check=1
just wince babe, I get it, its a reference to the raider slogan, but where why how ‘wince’?? He doesn’t explain this ever in the text, so the headline looks stupid to me..
lastly, doesn’t he contradict himself a bit?
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:41 am
Not just the present administration. All of the administrations.
Government is dirty. Dems and Pubs. Anyone wanting to get involved in politics has to be dirty from the jump.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:42 am
Helllllllo Laaaaaadies! I see the circle jerk session is still going on and on and on. Hey girlz. I really want to apologize for my comment when I said your team was still living in the 70’s. That is slowly changing. Now I recognize that you girlz are wising up and slowly becoming the Broncos west. You copy cats are going to the zone blocking on the offensive line and picking up any Bronco outcast that you can get your hands on. At least you girlz are on the right track for improvement and who knows? Maybe by the next century you’ll be contenders?
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:43 am
LMN…
Any mature person watching the circus the Raiders organization has become would be forced to wince.
Kind of like watching a car wreck
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:47 am
Not defending anyone on this, but Kawakami is notorious for writing BS about the Raiders in the past. This time maybe he is in the right, but a lot of journalist just throw sh*t out there just to see what might stick. Herrera is nothing but another puppet of Al’s just like Rob Ryan. For the good of the team and to salvage this season Kiffin has to go. I like the guy and I think he is a good coach, but he an Al cannot coexist in Raiderland. It has become a huge distraction to the team and its progress. We have a lot of good, young players and I think this is hurting their development. Bottom line is this isn’t a bad football team. It is a horrible organization run by a madman that gets in the way of the team being productive. When Al is finally eliminated from this team (either by removal or death) I believe it will shine again. Best of luck Kiff.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:48 am
It’s not just people watching this car wreck. Major news outlets are now calling for Kiffin’s head. Washington Post has him on the “chopping block” along with Scott Linehan and Rod Marinelli. At this point maybe he should just resign and save some dignity.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:51 am
You and your smoke pot buddy…
LMFAO!
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:52 am
K-rock..
thanks, that helped me.. as when a kid winces under the desk to hide??
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:54 am
The evil dictator has had a stroke! Well, that other evil dictator Kim Jong-il
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:55 am
btw i might go to the game in SD dec 4th..
4 day thingy, USD $2300..
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:56 am
Hey Dakota, I am not even gonna talk shyt. Last week, I told some dude that God was gonna give him a disease and I smashed my finger in the door.
Screw that.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:02 am
some funny stuff…sad, but funny
http://blog.mlive.com/flintjournal/its_just_sports/2008/09/more_dysfunctional_franchise_d.html
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:02 am
Dakota..
have you ever noticed those two buy their outfits the same place?
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:03 am
If Kiffin leaves, that is good for the team? In the middle of a season, with a whole new crew of coaches? What of morale of the team if the players and coaches respect Kiffin and are willing to play for him?
Kiffin actually is doing what a leader does. Taken at face value, he is taking care of his people, coaches and players alike, in a difficult situation. He keeps them focused, motivates them, maintains morale, shields them from the stupidity going on in the higher echelon. This is the mark of a good and effective leader. Even in the best-run organizations, there will be stupid politics and a good leader shields his/her people from such stupidity and focus them on the jobs at hand.
The team is actually playing well, unlike Raiders of old. In the old days, if a coach was on the hot seat, we could all see that reflected in team plays. The players took plays off and we would lose ugly. The Bills game was a huge improvement. We came close to winning that game. Even the D managed to fight and claw for close to 50+ minutes. There was focus and good discipline on the field. Why would the players play their hearts out if they were not properly led?
If Kiffin were slacking and causing problems in the locker room and the field, then it will be correct to seek his ouster. Kiffin is doing everything within his power to be an example, control what he can and take care of his people. Davis should be so lucky to have someone like that in his organization.
Davis is really blind now and beyond redemption for letting this festers. He is now showing his complete incompetence for the world to see. I am glad I cancelled my season ticket for this season (for a different reason). An effective leader who cares about an organization (including the fans) would never let personal feelings against one person cause this much problems. Davis is clearly a destructive failed leader.
The ball is in Davis’ court. He can suck it up, pay Kiffin the money and fire him, or can this power-struggle show and let Kiffin finish the season. This sort of stupid self-destructive power play is laughably childish and amateurish.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:07 am
the result of all this is, whether Kiffin will be fired, let go, leaves on his own or simplye just stays the rest of the season and then is gone.. it all makes me a Kiffin devotee, what ever team NFL, College or High school, I will follow Kiffins teams and root for them.. this doesn’t mean I wont be a raider fan, thats given always a raiderfan.. just not a Al-fan anymore..
So I hope Kiffin wont end up in KC or in Denver.. I can live with him going to Texans..
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:11 am
Watch out LMN, if the Chargers miss the playoffs, Lane could be a candidate for that team to. Especially if we beat them this week.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:17 am
I never noticed before, but I think you are right LMN (#579)!
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:19 am
Suppose Kiffin is let go/fired/walks away and Rob Ryan is hired as head coach. What will the team do when he has to go on maternity leave? He could give birth any day now.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:20 am
At first, I was on the fence about lane staying or going. After hearing his press conference, I am now in full support of Kiffin. IMO, he is learning what to say and what not to say. Also when he talks about the team, he says we, us our. That tell me that he does want to be there and that he is not just going through the motions.
I really wish that he and Al could find a common ground.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:21 am
BART Bridge Brigade Says:
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:11 am
Watch out LMN, if the Chargers miss the playoffs, Lane could be a candidate for that team to. Especially if we beat them this week.
That’s a pretty big IF there Bart. Wanna place a bet?
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:22 am
So are we walking today?
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:23 am
Ailene Voisin: Turmoil in the Nation continues to drag on
By Ailene Voisin – avoisin@sacbee.com
Last Updated 9:12 am PDT Tuesday, September 23, 2008
Story appeared in SPORTS section, Page C1
ALAMEDA – You can’t make this up. You can’t make this up, because this is all so implausible, it comes from the world of make believe. Then you revisit the topic and the toxicity of the environment – the Raiders at their headquarters – and the craziness of the Monday afternoon media session makes complete sense.
First, this is what did not happen. Al Davis did not fire Lane Kiffin, contrary to earlier reports by ESPN and Fox Sports. Kiffin did not call his boss and quit. Davis and Kiffin did not break their verbal impasse of several weeks, either.
But the conversation at Raiders camp Monday was loud and clear. Think chaos. Or walls crumbling.
In a scene more common at a weigh-in for two lusty heavyweights, a Raiders executive seated in the back of the press room interrupted a San Jose Mercury News columnist questioning Kiffin about reports that team officials recently distributed an ESPN article critical of the head coach.
“That’s not true, (Tim) Kawakami, that’s not true!” Raiders senior executive John Herrera bellowed.
Kawakami stared at Kiffin and persisted: ” … How isolated do you feel in this organization?”
Now, if there was ever a chance for Kiffin to offer Davis a bailout, to leave even the remote impression that he had his owner’s back on internal matters, this was it. And it didn’t happen. And it probably wasn’t ever going to happen, which surely has to be causing Davis more angst than is medically advisable for someone of his advanced age.
The kid is really, really good at this. Kiffin slithers along where few men dare and even fewer survive – under Al’s skin. When he receives that final paycheck, he should immediately take his act to Vegas and hit the poker tables at the Palms. He incited the situation Monday without singing a nasty note, let Al have it simply by leaning into the microphone and lending credibility to the reports. (He knows the reporters. He believes who he believes.)
“I don’t have that feeling of isolation because I go in and my day’s not really different, whether this stuff you’re reporting on is going around, or articles being passed around or anything, that has nothing to do with it,” an impassive Kiffin responded. “Does it help? No. I’m not going to sit up here and lie to you, tell you that it helps, that it brings our team together, that we’re going to bond together like the movie ‘Major League,’ like somebody told me. It doesn’t help. But I can’t control it. All I can do is keep our team together.”
In other words, he let Al have it – in essence, exacerbated a situation that has been seething since the offseason. He is daring Davis to fire him for his 5-14 record over these two seasons, defying the owner by reporting to work every day as if the Raiders’ comings and goings were nothing out of the ordinary.
But the Raiders haven’t been ordinary for years. Ordinary implies mediocrity. They haven’t been that good since Rich Gannon. Jon Gruden, Bill Callahan and Norv Turner came and went and endured the daily drama of Davis. Their exploits were worthy of front-page news, though, not the stuff of comic books. This stuff leaves the Silver and Black black and blue. It’s embarrassing, ridiculous, unnecessary.
All of which leads back to Al. To the ultimate question. What is he waiting for? Congress is threatening to move faster than this. The prospects for peace – and let’s not even delve into the distraction this must be causing his young quarterback – remain nonexistent until the Raiders change coaches and some other sucker takes a shot at the job.
Meantime, even press rooms should limit testosterone levels. Herrera kept at Kawakami (and excoriated other journalists by name) long after Kiffin had left the room, and though the columnist maintained his customary cool, the exchange was unpleasant. For those who missed the highlights, monitor the news outlets. Those Raiders hits keep on coming, certainly faster than the wins.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:24 am
I think they should do a Dirty Jobs inside the Raiders HQ.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:25 am
The keep using the word Chaos…..I wonder why?
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:27 am
So we need a D-Tackle….Is Warren available?
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:27 am
I know some common ground they could find.
AL COULD FIRE ROB RYAN.
That is how all this crap got started. If Al lets Kiffin send Rob packing at the end of last year, they would be laughing, high-fiving one another, and enjoying a 3-0 start to the season.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:32 am
Tuesday… 12:41 pm eastern time…
time to fire kiffie !!!!
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:36 am
K-Rock Your right . I been saying for the last four years that Ryan has no idea what the hell he’s doing. He only looks like a raider with a fat belly and the long hair, and everybody thought he was great, one person in particular, who use to give a hard time, when I blogged under Casper, by the way I have not seen a post from him in awhile, Terrapin where are you now ?
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:38 am
I’m sure Hall is investing in a asbestos jersey this week after watching the MNF game last night. But, I doubt even that will stop him from getting torched like an untrimmed tri tip in the parking lot tailgate.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:54 am
9:54 pacific time
Time for Florida Pete to go get a life!
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:55 am
Herrera has got to go.
i’m thinkin’ that this goon sits w/ Al, hears him(Al) spew some unrealistic ideas, (ie. fire the kid) and then turns it over to the media, thinking he is doing his job. What a tool.
I don’t like tim K., but I believe he rec’d a copy of that article last week.
This guy is a Judas to the Raiders org, and needs to realize that Al is out of his mind! Maybe Herrera should start hanging out w/ Tim and Jerry on there “smoke breaks” and calm the f*#k down, and stop perpetuating this circus….
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:56 am
I suggested it in #517 and didn’t get a response, but what about Millen as GM? He’s one of us,Al if your looking I’m sure he is gonna be available real soon. None of this front office crap will be an issue, because no one is going to mess with him.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:01 am
Lane Kiffins Nikes Says:
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:24 am
I think they should do a Dirty Jobs inside the Raiders HQ.
____________________________________________________
I can see it now:
Mike Rowe: I am here today at the headquarters of the Oakland Raiders and with me is John Herrera. John, I hear you have a dirty job for me?
John: Yeah, you could say that Mike. Come with me into Al Davis’ office.
John: Mr. Davis, I am here with Mike Rowe of the Discovery Channel show Dirty Jobs, do you remember me telling you about this?
Davis: What? No, does it have something to do with Marcus Allen?
John: No Mr. Davis, he is just going to help me change your diaper and wring out the Sham Wow we put on your lap.
Davis: Whatever. Did you have that Kawakami killed yet, I am so…
John: Mr. Davis, please, we can talk about that later!
Davis: Oh, alright. Go ahead.
Mike Rowe: Okay John what is the first step, and should I wear protection?
John: Here are the latex gloves we use and I would suggest stripping down to your undershirt and underwear.
Mike Rowe: Why on Earth do I have to strip down to my undershirt and underwear?
John: Just do it Mike, Mr. Davis likes it that way, so that is the way it is done! What, are you afraid or something? Are you a smoke pot, smoke pot….do you know Tim Kawakami?
Mike Rowe: What? Yeah I smoke pot, but I don’t know any Kawakami’s. Come on let’s just get on with this.
John: Okay, first you need to get him up on the desk.
Mike Rowe: Okay Mr. Davis, here we go! Wow, you are pretty light…kind of like lifting a bag of bones.
Al Davis: I can still kick your azz you little…
John: Okay, okay, lets just get on with this….here is a shovel, you might need it; he ate some prunes last night.
Mike Rowe: Thanks, I think. Okay, let’s get this jumpsuit off of you….okay, wow…what a mess. How much do they pay you to do this type of work John?
John: $35 dollars a day…no vacation, but I love it!
Mike Rowe: Should I have a respirator or something?
John: No, this is all natural, but watch your eyes and close your mouth, sometimes he sharts.
Mike Rowe: Okay, he is changed, where do I put this dirty diaper?
John: We have a laundry shoot that runs directly into Lance Kiffin’s office.
Mike Rowe: Oh man, what did he deserve to get that poop storm every couple of hours?
John: Long story Mike, and frankly, I am not all that sure as to the reasons, but Mr. Davis wants it that way, so it will be that way.
Mike Rowe: Okay, now where do I wring out this Sham Wow?
John: Oh, um I forgot to call in my assistant. Someone get me Mike Taylor, pronto!
Taylor: Here I am John, sorry I am late, please don’t hit me….I brought the bucket.
Mike Rowe: So after I wring out this Sham Wow…which is surprisingly wet for being on top of a jump suit and a diaper…what is all of this?
John: Well, it catches a little leakage from Little Al, but also some drool too.
Mike Rowe: Little Al? Oh, okay, I see. Well, it is wrung out, now what do I do?
John: Shine Mr. Davis’ sho3s with it.
Mike Rowe: What? Shine his sho3s with it, are you insane?
John: I might be, I have worked here a long time.
Mike Rowe: Alright, whatever, I just need to get out of here.
Mike Rowe: Thanks everyone for watching another episode of dirty jobs. I am running out of ideas, so please, call us with your ideas, and we might just end up helping you with a dirty job!
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September 23rd, 2008 at 10:19 am
Thanks Dakota. Exactly what I had in mind!
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:49 am
John Herrera is WillieDaRaidahFan.net
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:59 am
Post 594…
ROFLMAO!!
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:15 am
Lets hope this team just unleashes there anger against the Dischargers.
They need to want to hurt the division opponent this week defensively and breag LT’s legs and knock out cry me a Rivers.
The offense needs to use a game plan similar to what Miami did against the Patsies last weekend to catch the Dolts by surprise and keep them off balance.
Lofton needs to prove his worth for this game!
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:56 am
Rob Ryan.. Zone defense only works if you’ve got more than a 1 score lead with 4 minutes to go.. Nit wit
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:55 pm
The offense needs to stay conservative and run the ball and we need to incorporate alot more screen plays for Mcfadden and Bush. That would slow down so much of the blitzing teams do against us. Defensively we need to play like the Eagles, relentless! Use all the defensive players we have available to pressure the qb and hit people in the mouth! We have to be the intimidaters in the division once again.
September 24th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Trouble on the way man! Damn shame with this team
September 25th, 2008 at 11:56 am
PLEASE PICK UP ED JOHNSON. He will help tommy kelly while warren is out…his off field problems can be corrected…Can you guys suggest or submit proposals that he be picked up form waivers
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