Cable stresses fast pace
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 1st, 2008 at 4:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Quick hits from Wednesday’s post-practice press briefing with coach Tom Cable and interviews with available players:
– Other than failing to recognize he was supposed to break down a special teams huddle at the beginning of practice and seeming confused when stepping to the microphone at the end, nothing seemed indecisive about Cable’s first day as coach.
“Hold on a second . . . do I start this?,” Cable said. “Bear with me a minute.”
Cable was told that since he’s the coach, he can do whatever he wants.
“Oh, really?,” he said with a laugh.
– With systems of football already in place and a quarter of a season in the books, there will be no dramatic changes. One minor change _ the practice of running plays over and over until they get them right that sometimes extended Raiders practices by 20 minutes or more under Lane Kiffin has been junked.
“I will say this to you _ we’re going to stay on schedule. Practice isn’t going to run over. If it’s scheduled to be an hour and 35 minutes or whatever it is, it’s going to be an hour and 35,” Cable said. “We’ll get in, get the work done right and get off the field so we can go in, teach and learn, and get better that way.
“The work will be tempo, tempo, tempo, as fast as we can go and keep pushing that, because I just believe, if you play faster than the other guy he’s going to give up somewhere in that game, so that will always be our deal, to keep pressing them. So, that may be the only difference. If it’s 10 reps, it will be 10 and be done. If it’s 15, it’s 15 and get done. Whatever the situation is, we’ll hold true to it.”
– Rest assured that if Kiffin had to go, the offensive line is on board with Cable as the replacement.
“Coach Cable is going to be awesome,” tackle Kwame Harris said. “He’s done a lot for me, just playing my position since the start of this year. I think what people can expect out of him is a very straightforward, honest, sincere coach who loves this game.”
Guard Robert Gallery said the “tempo” theme was stressed immediately.
“Once we got to the team portion of it, the tempo was a little faster,” Gallery said. “He made that a point this morning that when get in a situation, JaMarcus has been here long enough, he knows it, and the faster we get in and out (of the huddle), the easier it’s going to be on game day.”
– Said Gallery of the “distraction” factor: “I think everyone was tired of hearing about it. I don’t think it was helping us to come in and hear about it every week.”
– It’s doubtful you’ll hear Cable talk openly about his team’s shortcomings the way Kiffin often did. While falling short of Joe Bugel’s memorable “multiple Super Bowls” forecast, Cable is talking about playing in January.
“We’re a good team, we’re going to run for the playoffs, and that’s our deal,” Cable said. “We’re not going to back down, and we’re not afraid to say that. Because you have to if you believe in yourself.”
– Justin Fargas is in his sixth season and is playing for his fifth head coach. So he can be excused for shrugging off Tuesday’s events as just another day at the office.
When asked if it was the strangest day of his Raiders career, Fargas shrugged.
“I don’t know if it was the strangest. It was another day,” Fargas said. “Just shows that change can come overnight and you’ve got to move on and do your job.”
– Fargas, who became a 1,000-yard rusher under Kiffin last season, was sorry to see him go but ready to move on.
“From what I seen and I felt, everybody supported Lane,” Fargas said. “We were happy to play for him. There’s just a situation that happens in this business and you have to be able to move on and, like I said before, do your job. But, nah, guys liked Lane and guys like Cable too. So we’re going to play for our head coach and it’s Tom Cable and we’re going to play for him.”
– Cable doesn’t want any stragglers. He’s not big on team rules.
“What I believe in is be early, we’ll get done early, and you’re going to play your guts out for each other,” Cable said. “That’s all that matters. Be where you’re supposed to be when you’re supposed to be there. That’s plenty of rules. We’re grown men.”
– The Raiders practiced in shells and Cable said the big emphasis was getting in a quick-tempo workout and getting people healthy during the bye week. Guard Cooper Carlisle (ankle) practiced and was limited after being inactive against San Diego. Cable said he thought Carlisle would be ready to face the Saints on Oct. 12.
Also limited were S Gibril Wilson (back), LB Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder) and RB Michael Bush (quad), none of which are considered serious. RB Darren McFadden (toe) and Fargas (groin) were out, as was TE Ben Troupe (foot) and T Seth Wand (knee).
Fargas said he expected to be ready to face New Orleans.
– The Raiders practice Thursday before taking the weekend off and returning Monday.
Sapp sounds off
Former Raiders defensive tackle Warren Sapp held nothing back in assessing the Raiders situation in his role as an analyst on Showtime’s Inside the NFL.
“I remember the first two weeks I was there, we played a pre-season game. Somebody came up one time and said, ‘We’re going deep right here, dog.’ I said, how do you know? He said, ‘The phone just rang.’
“All the preparation that goes into a week of work is there, the practicing that you have to put in order to do these things, sometimes he (Al Davis) messed with that part of it and that’s what kills you.”
More Sapp:
On players signing on to play with the Raiders
Sapp: Nobody tells you how bad it is. I remember seeing Trace Armstrong after spending my four years there. I wanted to choke the life out of him. I wanted to kill him . . . and then Phillip Buchanon was there. I said, Phil, why didn’t you tell me this? I said, you all did wrong. Because any person that calls me on the telephone, (I tell them) do not go anywhere near Oakland.
On Lane Kiffin being fired, fair or unfair
Sapp: Way unfairly. He came in there with a change of mentality. The whole system. He changed how the locker room looked because it was going to take that kind of overhaul for Oakland to become the proud franchise we all knew it was.
On Al Davis
Sapp: He is the common equation. You take him out, put him at home watching film or whatever he is doing – you have a functioning football organization. But once he comes over the top, he goes and starts moving it around . . .
“Al Davis knows football – it’s just ‘60s and ‘70s football. That’s what it is. He’s thinking that Cliff Branch is outside and (Jim) Plunkett is dropping back and you can throw it 80 yards down the field – deep ball, deep ball, deep ball.”
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October 1st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
WHEN DID THE RAIDER NATION GET SOFT? SOME OF YOU MAKE ME SICK.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
AS IF THAT LOSER SAPP HAS ANY SHRED OF CREDIBILITY. THE RAIDERS WERE THE ONLY TEAM THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN IS FAT BUTT. HE RUNS HIS MOUTH LIKE HE IS HURT. LOL.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Phuck Sapp…….he is one of the most overrated players ever……but he did hurt Rice and Young in the same game
October 1st, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Oakglenn Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
WHEN DID THE RAIDER NATION GET SOFT? SOME OF YOU MAKE ME SICK.
In 1984.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Phuck a Raidernation! That term was created in LA and it makes me sick. Screw the black hole and screw anything that was created in LA because LA is the main culprit in all of this
October 1st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
MIGHT HAVE BEEN SPIDER. BECAUSE THIS ISN’T THE REAL RAIDER NATION.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Arachnophobia, why do you come in here? Doesn’t your thong wearing franchise has a blog you can post on or are you that obsessed with your daddy?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
you suck jerry
October 1st, 2008 at 4:26 pm
DAKOTA = SOFT
MR = VERY SOFT
CHAOS = POSER SOFT
October 1st, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Phony Oakglenn shut up.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:27 pm
I AM THE REAL OAKGLENN.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
YOU WERE PWND TODAY OAKGLENN.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I can sukk a dikk real good.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Al Davis is god!!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
wow alot went on in 24 hours…so what do you guys think the record for the remaining games will be????
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Oakglenn: How does it feal?
Oakglenn: Its very painful.
PWND LOL
October 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Warren looked good last night on Dancing with the Stars wearing eye-liner. Not that I watch that show or anything
October 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
hell yeah Jerry! Thanx 4 all the updates!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
SNAKE, WHO CARES AT THIS POINT. LANE KIFFIN IS GONE AND WE NOW HAVE SOME REAL BACKBONE BACK IN THE RAIDER NATION.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
oh forgot my number lol I think they win 4 more, if lucky 5…and looking at the schedule thats ok to fair…if they win 6 more im impressed
October 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Snake…….dunno but it will be more exciting than watching Kiffin’s boring ass dink and dunk offense
October 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
I like taking it up my ass. no really, I do.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
408RAIDER TAKE OFF YOUR “NATION COLLECTIVE” BLOUSE.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Brien your a moron. Almost as stupid as travis henry, why don’t you call him up and try to set up a deal?
Spider…..How was that lone trip to the Superbowl for the Chokers? I thought Natron ment business? JA.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Lincoln kennedy
Warren Sapp
Rich Gannon
Adam Treu
All have something in common, talked about changing games plans on Saturday before games.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
anyway, back to the football talk. We need more ball rings out there.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Warren Sapp knows one thing: As soon as he stops making noise, stops making a spectacle of himself, he stops making the fortune he’s used to. Soon, he’ll have nothing of note to say, but he’ll still be talking anyway.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
NATION COLLECTIVE IS SOFT. PLEASE LEAVE THE RAIDER NATION, WE DONT NEED YOU.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Hey 951 good idea and I can hide the dope up the beloved women in family snatches
October 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
I am ready to be hit by the showers. I love hitting the showers.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
One minor change _ the practice of running plays over and over until they get them right that sometimes extended Raiders practices by 20 minutes or more under Lane Kiffin has been junked.
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Cable, you might want to keep this one. I mean, if you can’t get the play right in practice, probably not going to get it right during the game. Practice like you play!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Sapp is a moron……I’v never liked fat people who talk alot of trash
October 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Oakglenn
Go snuggle back up to Al’s “soft” balzack.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
You can’t just keep discounting what guys like Gannon, Sapp, Moss and others say. It is what it is! Hopefully Al Davis realizes that he has to make some adjustments in how he has run this team over the last 5 or 6 years
October 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
wow. Looks like MR is in full melt down mode again. This started yesterday. Looks like Al Davis broke his brain. You guys, ignore oakglenn posts until he tires himself out and goes to take a nap.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
951- Im sure your aunt,female cousins and sisters would love to part with me after I make the deal with Travis
October 1st, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Hey 951 good idea and I can hide the dope up the beloved women in family snatches
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Thanks for proving my point moron.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
MR has been in meltdown mode for a while…………th guy cant get a date and is scoreless on the leaderboard for 2008
October 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Nation Collective – Pissed off in the 951 Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Brien your a moron. Almost as stupid as travis henry, why don’t you call him up and try to set up a deal?
Spider…..How was that lone trip to the Superbowl for the Chokers? I thought Natron ment business? JA.
Couldn’t tell ya, but I loved the victory over the Packers and the next year against the Falcons. The 3rd best SB was Bucs 150 faders 12!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Brien I would love to part with you already. Go earn your darwin award.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
I’ll be a moron but my scarface dust party with your female familiy members will make me look like a smart man
October 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
I can’t believe that’s still going on – my dad told me about the “phone calls” that came from Davis to throw deep (he worked in ad sales with the Raiders for a bit) 20 years ago in L.A. – I can’t believe Davis still does that – maybe the phone calls aren’t necessary since Knapp called plays last week sitting in the box next to davis – just need a couple cans and a string or prison style morse code taps on the wall.
Anyway, that’s a shocker – I mean I kind of got it in the 80’s, we were still running the Al Davis/Sid Gilman (now better known as the Shell/Walsh offense)offense back then, so he knew the playbook backwards and forwards. Oh well, Cable looks like another yes man, dumping rules, dumping extra reps until they get it right, etc. I guess he had to make a couple changes just so he could show the team he was his own man and exercise a little authority, but we’ll see if he can light that fire we need to finish – I do like the vote of confidence in JaMarcus, he needs to take his lumps – he’s already proven he can operate a safe and conservative offense, and he’s proven he can hit the deep ball and fit it into tight spaces – open this sucker up, throw in more west coast slants, quick outs, and short crossing patterns, along with some trick plays to keep the D honest and protect our tackles a little bit, and let’s see what happens.
Like I said before, you can’t finish until you play to win rather than play to not lose. We all know that, and I won’t complain if Rob Ryan keeps blitzing when we have leads deep into the 4th quarter and we get burned and lose the game that way – if we have to be in a man scheme as our base D, then bring those corners up and send some extra rushers and make the QB beat you in under 2 seconds with a short pass – we must dictate the game with this D scheme and soft man prevent doesn’t cut it. I would love if we could succeed eventually just rushing 3 or 4 guys, but if it’s not working, send more.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Broncos= cheater bowls 97 and 98 you mean spiderwoman
October 1st, 2008 at 4:38 pm
snake Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
wow alot went on in 24 hours…so what do you guys think the record for the remaining games will be????
0-12
October 1st, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Kiffin= loved losing
October 1st, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Spider=believes Elway is coming back
October 1st, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Wow, your happy with 2 wins in two season…..Aim high.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
951- dont be mad at me cuz your depressed in that meth lab heaven called Moreno Valley
October 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Arachnophobia, why do you come in here? Doesn’t your thong wearing franchise has a blog you can post on or are you that obsessed with your daddy?
Sometimes normal gets to be a little boring. I get a kick out of all the dysfunctional ladies on your blog better.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
I’m happy with conservo ass offense being ousted………aim “HIGH” you damn right…….I’ll let you know whenthat deal goes through
October 1st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Jerry Mac..
Thank you, for all the updates.
Cable, sounds like a no B.S. type. Liked the ” be early, get done early” line.
Another coach, had a similar approach.
“Be on time, pay attention, and play like hell on Sunday.”—John Madden.
Would like to see, Sapp blow his knee out. on “Dancing With The Fools.”
October 1st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Brien
WTF? Can you complete a thought or are the words just too big for you?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Dysfunction like Columbine?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Bunch of friggin idiots blogging right now
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
any of you guys like taking golden showers? I do.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Too big……something the ladies never told ya huh buddy
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Cable wants to win unlike Kiffin who wanted to spite Al only with losses
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
The only truth I want to get to the bottom of was Al’s claim of agents calling in complaining. If that is true, that will help Al’s insubordination claim. If it is false, than that is the worst of all lies
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Al Davis is a godam discrace.
Couldn’t have said it better myself brian!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Brien don’t try going somewhere you have no idea about. Last time I checked the 951 was more then MoVal.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Any of you dumb f’cks gonna talk football instead of calling each other out and asking fellow fans to leave?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Vegas……Al aint lying
October 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Inland Empire……..same hillbilly hick area trying to be surburban now……got that GP ready for the meth my friend?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
WTF has happened to Curry’s hands. I thought Lofton was supposed to be an upgrade at WR coach!!!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Vegas……Al aint lying when he’s asleep. He’s upright in his wheel chair.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Wow the Cubs up early 2-0……..Dakota might be pissing his Jeff Foxworthy jeans right now
October 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Don’t bother letting me know, just use it all at once and do the rest of us the favor of offing your dumb azz.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Wheelchair rolls right over cheating ass Bowlen’s feet at the NFL owners meeting every year
October 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
No one in here could ever off me…….trust that…….now the women that are closest to you they can “off” me all they want
October 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Hmmm – I’m rethinking the whole approach of practicing until you get it right, could be a good call – there are no second chances on the field on gameday, so it could be beneficial to stress that point, and force people to get it right the first time, every time. That may take a while to sink in, but the first time the raiders win with that approach, it should definetly help them focus more and perhaps it will help. We’ll see, but there is a good side to that, and it works well with taking the training wheels off JaMarcus and increasing the tempo of the practice.
I like it – it’s a decision with some sound principles behind it – at least this coach is likable and known to the players and has charisma – we needed that to preserve any chance for a good season -
Can’t wait to see the difference of philosophies show up on the field against the Saints – I expect much more passing to the WR’s.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Jedi- exactly
October 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Keep thinking that you toofless moron.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
I’m estatic the olinemen love the Cable prmotion but dammit can you guys pass block for once?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Wheelchair rolls right under Bowlen’s feet at the NFL owners meeting every year.
I agree. Greazeball is that low.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:48 pm
yeah we know the toothbrush was invented in the 951…….if it was invented anywhere else it would be called the teethbrush
October 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Greaseball with more titles, wins and influence that your coward ass cheating owner
October 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Hmmm…..let’s see….just about every former player and coach has negative feelings for Al Davis and his meddling deranged ways (except for the legends he takes care of). And we’re supposed to side with Al?
I buy merchandise and tickets for to watch a sh1t product and stand aside as this idiot Davis runs it into the ground. And we’re supposed to side with Davis.
80% of America blames Davis for the teams failure. And I’m supposed to side with Davis?
You dumb f;ck morons need to get a f.cking life. Go back to school. It’s not too late to finish middle school and maybe, just maybe, graduate high school. Stupid f.ck pieces of sh1t!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Here is my question to Sapp, and I apologies if someone has already asked it. How do you explain the Raiders providing better defense and specifically better run defense (minus the run my LT last week) WITHOUT Sapp this year and more or less it is the same group of DL as it was last year.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Cable,
If the players are not running the plays correctly in practice, they aren’t going to run it well in the game. Be sure to stay on them and demand excellence in execution.
Especially with guys like Javon Walker and our receiving corps. If any group needs to run things till they get it right its that group.!!!!!!!
Same thing with your offensive tackles.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
post 77- we can graduate from those places and still have more sense and pu$$y than you could ever dream of
October 1st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Tex……..great post!!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Hello Nation #70 Jedi…good points. I beleive Teams takre on the personality of their coach. At 1st glance..I like Cables fire and can do attitude.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Sapp was the worse run defender ever
October 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
STI
Try spell check before you preach ignorance.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Cable has more personality than Kiffin. Kiff is like watching a paint dry
October 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The Rams went deep all the time with their ‘Greatest Show on Turf’ and they were pretty damn successful. That was in this decade, Warren.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:52 pm
spell check=zzzzzzzzzzzzz no one cares English teacher……..you want me to bring you an apple before the principal nails you after school hours over his desk?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Greaseball with more titties, spins and effluent than your charismic owner? Why would anyone call that demented old cronie a god?
Now you are seeing the light brian!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
that was hurtful, no bend over so oakglenn can spank you.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
The light= 2006 jake plummer being benched so the mountain my little pony mules miss the postseason
October 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Brien<———spanks women……never is spanked…….try again hillbilly
October 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Cable comes across as as Man’s Man. Ergo His comments.
Be where you’re supposed to be and play your guts out for one another. Simple and true.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Maybe Cable will snap Ryans neck after his next meltdown on defense. One could hope.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Terrapin’s Final Thoughts:
I read no one’s comments – not selfish of me – just busy and all with the markets. Its a helluva time and doubly so for the Raiders.
If any of you are actually justifying this move; then you are truly the super-kool-aid drinkers. You must be drinking it straight from Al Davis’ jock with all due respect. Open you eyes MEN – don’t be led around like some damned dogs.
Its a brilliant move to give Cable the job – both from a player standpoint and a fan standpoint. It makes losing Kiffin a little easier to bare doesn’t it? Why? Because Cable has already received high praise from both – very high praise to be frank.
But don’t be fooled by this trickery. The common equation is still the same like Sapp, Gannon, et al keep reiterating – that being Al Davis.
How the hell do you screw this up? 90% of the fans out there INCLUDING THE PLAYERS (as I cannot stress that point enough) could see this ball club headed for great things. But it wasn’t Al Davis’ way of doing things. Kiffin was too brash.
So what will history have to say about this? Will Kiffin be the next HC to go on to win a Super Bowl after getting fired by Davis. Shall I recant those that have already done it? Shanahan, White, Gruden, and one or two others I’m forgetting.
I’ll tell you what…history is being written at this moment and history is writing off Al Davis. He is ruining is very own legacy he strives so hard to maintain – its over – the cats nearly out the bag on this one. The fat lady has sung. Damn near every public persona you see out there is discredited Davis – even his very own players that once played for him.
Make no mistake Nation – this was a heavy blow. Heavy indeed. Losing Kiffin could hurt this organization tremendously – it could hurt the young stars Kiffin brought in. We lost what could have been a great coach when its all said and done.
I have to retire my fanhood until further notice. I’ll be a fan from a distance. I hope Cable performs well because I have no faith in Davis after what he has perpetrated. I’ll be a fan of the past and hope they change for the future. I will not root in futility.
If you can’t see beyond Davis’ bullsht then you truly are lost. This whole drama is eerily similar to Mike Shanahan’s firing. What would seriously hurt is if Denver hired Kiffin as OC.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Warren speaks the truth and you guys hate on him? Rich Gannon said the same thing in different words. Nobody loves the Raiders more than me, but I’m sick of their pathetic dysfunction. Virtually everyone who’s worked for the Raiders says the same thing: Al Davis is the problem. But don’t believe them – just look at the won/lost record over the past twenty years. Mediocre at best. Or, keep shooting the messengers and drinking the kool-aid.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
951 area code= let’s live in track homes and believe we are from LA
October 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Ottocrat Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The Rams went deep all the time with their ‘Greatest Show on Turf’ and they were pretty damn successful. That was in this decade, Warren.
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Becareful Ottocrat! Make sure that our tender to the touch offensive tackles can hold a block for more than a nanosecond and also make sure that our receivers get separation that allows those deep balls to be successfull.
So far the only player to get separation over the top was Z. Miller. Haven’t seen J.Walker or R.Curry do sh*t that gives me confidence that the greatest show on turf can be recreated here by fiat.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Hey brien,…..
October 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Hillbilly? Did you make it through 2nd grade lil buddy? You went to special classes and peepee’d you panties until last week didn’t you. Grow up.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
The offense sure did fight for Kiffin’s job I noticed
October 1st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
#93..I get the sense that Cable’s attitude will rub of on the entire Team.
If He comes out aggressive and playing to win…the vibe will be felt thru out the Team.
Ryan included.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Jim!! Sup man
October 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Ottocrat Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The Rams take it deep all the time with their ‘Greaseball owner’ and they were pretty damn successful in Greece. That was in this decade, Warren.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
The Cable interview on 1140 was good,…hes solid.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Never claimed to be from LA. Make up something else.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
No I didnt….a woman from your family tree took me in for home school and made me the freak I am now. The situation was similar to the Antoine Fisher story
October 1st, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Cable=solid
Kiffin= jello
October 1st, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Chillin bro,…havin a glass of red wine…watching baseball.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:59 pm
951 area code= for pu$$ies who can’t hack it in LA
October 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Watching Dakota’s cursed Cubbies?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Bob- it has been a riot in here today. People are just getting smacked around courtesy of the B-dizzle
October 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
And any of you fools actually believe Kiffin did not want JaMarcus are really out of your damned minds. I skimmed over that “letter” Al sent to Kiffin, immediately recognized it as horse sht, then read that line that Lane didn’t want Jam and I just couldn’t believe Davis put that lie out there. Dude is a liar.
Two firings: Kiffin & Shanahan …too similar to ignore. Al Davis is a flat out liar.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
fuk wit my Nation and you gonna catch a hot 1!
We pulled up
We all had shotguns…..
October 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
gotta split brien,…will look for you later….by the way how did that ho from CL work out last night?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Spider Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Ottocrat Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The faders take it deep all the time with their ‘Greaseball owner’ and they were pretty damn successful in Greece. That was in this decade, Warren.
otto, get it right the first time would you?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Cable will have balls unlike Kiffin
October 1st, 2008 at 5:02 pm
f sapp. he wasn’t sh*t in da town anywayz
October 1st, 2008 at 5:02 pm
LOL no CL…….Bob its called campus list and I’m a 19 year old girl whose boyfriend is a loser and doesn’t liek to get it on
October 1st, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Terrapin Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
And any of you fools actually believe Kiffin did not want JaMarcus are really out of your damned minds. I skimmed over that “letter” Al sent to Kiffin, immediately recognized it as horse sht, then read that line that Lane didn’t want Jam and I just couldn’t believe Davis put that lie out there. Dude is a liar.
Two firings: Kiffin & Shanahan …too similar to ignore. Al Davis is a flat out liar.
Terrapin, sheeple will believe anyone tells them, they just can’t think for themselves!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:03 pm
terrapin,..kiffin is the liar,..youre just an idiot who cant handle the truth,..stop your crying over kiffin,..hes gone,..maybe you should join him.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:03 pm
CL not bad though……..many of the posters on this blog wives are getting plowed courtesy of CL
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Sapp was not town bizness
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Cable has nothing to lose. He needs to do it His way…If it works..Great.
Play to win. Have a sack. Kick some Ass or get knocked out trying.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
It doesn’t matter how “solid” Cable is. Don’t you guys see? Open your damned eyes. The Rat was “solid”, Gruden was “solid”, White was “solid” …they all won Super Bowls after Davis fired them! And I know I’m forgetting someone.
Its just like Gannon said, what makes you think Cable is going to succeed when all of these worthy “solid” predecessors have failed? To believe so is just ignorance – and I’m being honest.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Len- exactly. You are much mroe dangerous when you have nada to lose
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Cable has Al’s balz just like brien and oakglenn. The old man is still a playa.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
what is wrong with some of you??
Man…some of you clowns are like Al Davis…..you want to win…you talk about winning….but you don’t know what it takes to win!
Clowns!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
my bad guys..
Me and the boss left work early and hit the bar!
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# Oakglenn Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
408RAIDER TAKE OFF YOUR “NATION COLLECTIVE” BLOUSE.
——–
Sup OG? You know I got love 4 you even when it’s Tard boy posting as OG!!
Yo Tard go try to breath under water or something….
October 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
No I didnt….a woman from your family tree took me in for home school and made me the freak I am now. The situation was similar to the Antoine Fisher story
Antoine Fisher? Was he transexual or a transvestite?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Yawn yawn yawn to trash 951. No playas come from your area so you wouldn’t know what a playa is
October 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Cable will go 8 – 4.
Just Watch Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Spider- I dunno maybe your boyfriend Rudy Galindo could answer that
October 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Cable will have greazy al’s balls down his throat, unlike Kiffin
October 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Boooooooooooooooring, your spidey sense outta lead you to funnier commentary………you are sounding more and more like 951’s favorite programming Blue Collar TV
October 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Go pop in your too short 8 track and try to learn some new material.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Al Davis is god!!!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
So, Warren consults with P. Buchannon and T. Armstrong about the Raiders. What do they have in common? They all sucked dack when they got here…
October 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
too short music isthe shhhhhhhhhhit buddy……and don’t you forget it
October 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
LONG LIVE AL Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Cable will go 0 – 12.
Just Watch Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Terrapin – Stop crying. You sound like Kiffin on ESPN last night.
Was yesterday “painful” for you?
Raiders will be 9 – 7 THIS year.
Just Win Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Material= shall be the women of your family……..that’s all the “material” I need to update my shhhhhhit
October 1st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Post 80 – what? What point did you make with your incoherent rambling. “We can graduate from those places and still have more…”? Umm….hello dumb f.ck! So you’re admitting you haven’t graduated from “those places”? LMAO!!!! You are a friggin dropout! I knew it.
You POS. Go the f’ck back to Alabama you f@gg0t! Quit acting like you like the ladies. The only pu$$y you get is from your cuzon (misspelled on purpose dumb f’ck – read it phonetically – or do you even know what that means?) and half-sister (same person).
October 1st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Otto
They were all brought in by
Al Davis.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Too $hort=Town Business
October 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Spider – Do you want cable to go 0 – 12?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Question??
What makes you people believe that Kiffin was such a good coach? Honestly, what did he ever do that makes him such a good coach. The players played hard for him??? The head coach better get the players to play hard for him. That’s implicit in a head coach’s job. The fact is no one here could actually come up with any specific reasons as to why Kiffin is a good head coach. If anything, head coaches need to be good game managers and Kiffin proved over and over that he was not. This will not turn into another Shanahan or Gruden situation.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Spider- I dunno maybe your girlfriend Jennifer too hot too trot could answer that
October 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Not a drop out and much a I “drop in” for monthly visits with women. Alabama=zzzzzzzzzzzzzz I’m from Oakland,Ca boy. Better get up on it. I would take your “lady” but I don’t screw male blowup dolls
October 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
The only way this team ends up 9-7 is if 6 teams don’t show up.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Sapp can talk all he wants. He was a “good soldier” while a Raider. But He was waay past His prime, and kept His mouth shut because He was a proffessional, AND He liked the checks He got from Al twice a month.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Boooooooooooooooring, your spidey sense outta lead you to funnier commentary
outta? Is that in the dictionary?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Spiderwoman- you meant Jams right…….women don’t phuck bronco fans……they just take their money and let Raider men smash when they come into town………….All star weekend 2005
October 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
As always, this is a lot of static except Madden’s take. Quoth the Maden “nevermor”…..
October 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
True that, Crimedog.
Just Win Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Too $hort = played out and boring.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Hell ya…. Play hard on sunday
October 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
spider=tard boys in bred son/nephew
October 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn to dictionary talk. you are reaching now spiderwoman
October 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Too short= never shall be boring…….only boring for people who can’t run the hoes
October 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
darkknight01 Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
what is wrong with some of you??
greazy al bred them?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
951 come on bro short dawg is ol’ school yes.. played out no… Im just sayin
October 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
After the Saint Game we should have a bit of an idea as to how the raiders will perform the rest of the season.
I’ll be looking at the play calls on bothj sides of the ball, and the effort put forth by the players.
It will also be interesting to see how time outs and clock management issues play out.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Nation Collective – Pissed off in the 951 Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
The only way this team ends up 9-7 is if 6 teams don’t show up.
Words of a loose pu$$y
October 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
LONG LIVE AL Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Terrapin – Stop crying. You sound like Kiffin on ESPN last night.
Was yesterday “painful” for you?
Raiders will be 1 – 15 THIS year.
Just Win Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
408 nevermind him……he is SoCal with it…..so he likes Usher these days
October 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
You couldn’t run a ho in a 90 year old womans garden, not because I don’t think you could talk her out of her depends, but that would mean you would have to work for a minute and might loose that welfare check.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Excuse me for a moment. Big Al’s nuts are hanging in my face. It’s time for his treatment.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:17 pm
My welfare check helps support my habit of beating something on your aunts, female cousins and sister
October 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Wow we have a troll……..more testament to my greatness………keep it up
October 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
408
Just talkin smack to nutless. His pu$$y is chaffed.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
LOL @ post# 166. So true. Brien (WTF kind of spelling is that for that name anyway) gave me that same impression (of being on “the welfare”).
October 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
I dont talk women out of their pants……..women talk me out of mines…….its called the Art of Getting Chosed……something you have zero idea about
October 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
try a new line. that was old in 74.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Brien I feel it is my job to enlighten all my so cal brethren… Oh well I tried!
FREE DIRTY!!!!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Welfare is going the way of the dino’s. Can’t hand out what we don’t have.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
nothing is never new accept that new trick your lil sis does with her mouth on me
October 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
LONG LIVE AL Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Spider – Do you want cable to go 0 – 12?
Sure, I wanna see how many good coaches turn greazy al down after he fires Cable, then wath the old geezer hire a 2nd year OL coach out of North Dakota State as his next HC.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Chosed……WTF? If I was Chosed I would have a serious problem.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Cable will go 8 – 4.
Watch and learn.
Just Win Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
74? damn you tell us how old and feeble you are……….74 was the last time you grabbed the tweezers to pull it out so you could get laid?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
951 we’re good brethren…
Short dawg rocks da party tho!!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
And I am fast coming to the belief that Nnamdi wants nothing to do with this organization. He won’t ever sign unless Cable makes some kind of miraculous run. Listening to Nam on NFLN – you can see that he knows what the problem is and all he wants to do is win.
Two star CBs: Nnamdi Aso and Charles Woodson …situations too similar to ignore. Just like Woodson, Aso will never sign with Davis.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
“the Art of Getting Chosed”????
Anyone in the house speak ebonics? Anyone?
LMAO – what a f’ckin moron.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm
B*tches choose 951……..but an ugly JJ faced moron like yourself is oblivious since you have to pay for pu$$y
October 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Keep reaching. You might pull one out one of these days. Until then, nice try. Go pay your hooker before a real pimp shows up and jacks you up.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Ebonics lol. And we all speak proper English in here? Right LOL
October 1st, 2008 at 5:24 pm
jacks you up? And you talk about new material? What’s next you gonna bring back your Androgynous outfits from the 1980s?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Only reaching I do is on one of the top aisles at BevMo!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
You know you still roll in your red and black parachute pants like your homo hero mike.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
“Cable doesn’t want any stragglers. He’s not big on team rules.”
That is exactly the problem. I am not spending any more money on this team, that is for sure.
Oakglen is an idiot, by the way.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
or reaching into the drawer to grab more rubbers
October 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Oakglenn…the real one is cool
October 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Red? Never wearing red. Too close to your team…….the 49ers
October 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Nation Collective – Pissed off in the 951 Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Chosed……WTF? If I was Chosed I would have a serious problem.
How about hosed by greasy al?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Now that this Kiffin / Davis drama is over (except for the money), I’m dropping the Nation Collective tag – I suspect however, that I will be adding it back at some point in the next year or so
I’m equally pissed at Kiffin as I am with Davis – those rumors of him going to Arkansas were true and were reported all over the place – that one part I do believe from Davis, and we know Jerry Jones (Arkansas Alum and huge booster) and Al are buddies and he was the one that called Al. Those rumors were going on 8 games into the season. That is total B.S. – Kiffin took this job for the sole purpose of getting his next job and there’s no way he didn’t get input from Gruden on what it would be like and I highly doubted that Al lied to him and told Kiffin he would have “Total Control” over all decisions – Kiffin lied to everyone he brought on board – no way a first year coach should ditch his team halfway through the season, I don’t care if he showed up to work everyday and busted his tail and got some good things accomplished – no other coach ever publically lambasts his own team, GM, or owner in the media – I fault Davis for a lot of it and I agreed with Kiffin 99% of the time and appreciated the job he did but every other coach we’ve had has kept that in house and more importantly hasn’t lobbied for other jobs 8 weeks into the regular season.
Kiffin was a self-serving traitor before he signed that contract, IMO – I’m sure he’ll be a great coach when he finds the job he wants and all that, but this could have been avoided if Al just fired him after the season and paid him his money – in fact, as soon as he tried to get that Arkansas job, he should have been fired for cause – that should be in the contract – you can’t job hunt 8 weeks into the season.
Al needs to bring in some people to help him out and give his coaches a chance, but I don’t think that will be a problem anymore – Turner had a bad team and couldn’t motivate a jihadi to blow something up, Shell was a disaster and we still had no talent, but now that our salary cap is cleared up from our superbowl run, we’ve had a couple decent drafts and acquired some more FA’s, our rebuild is essentially complete as long as the next coach preserves our Zone Blocking scheme – we need one more tackle and a NT (although sands is starting to play well), a #1 WR, and some depth to be playoff caliber – that’s two offseasons of work depending on how guys play this year. That means our next coach will only play one season before this rebuild is totally complete, and that should mean that he will succeed in his first couple of years AND get a contact extension (first since Shell regime 1 probably). If cable can keep Knapp around or find a good West Coast OC, our offense should be humming for years to come. If Ryan has seen the light and plans to blitz out of man coverage like he has for the last couple of weeks, then I may actually support him and that will give us quite a bit of continuity.
The point is, we now have the talent to compete and win, which will placate Davis and remove a lot of the pressure he places on his head coaches – we didn’t hear about any of this during the last two Gruden years, but it started off so rough that the relationship was doomed – the next head coach has a chance to look like a genious by winning a lot of games so the relationship should work out better. Cable is a raider lifer, understands Davis, and actually appreciates this job – if he can win for us this year, he should get a two year deal as HC, and if he’s successful after that, I doubt Davis wants to go through this again, or at least he’ll think twice.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Nice to know you practice safe sex. I will sleep better knowing that your boyfiends are protected and you care enough to wrap it.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Brien
has tard boy been posting as OG all day?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Terrapin…the Raiders chose not to sign Woodson. No?
Or wouldn’t pay Him what Green Bay offered.. I don’t
recall.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Oakglenn…the real one is cool
There isn’t a real one. He’s a figment of greazy al’s imagination.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:29 pm
yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn to the boyfriend nonsense…….i phuck with b*tches bruh…….. and rubbers are only used half of the time. But someone who is sexually lacking like yourself wouldn’t know about entering the pu$$y raw. You are alike like MR, never feeling the warmth of a woman
October 1st, 2008 at 5:30 pm
408- yes he has tried but failed miserably……similar to 951 right now
October 1st, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Hey 408………I heard about the freak fest party in SJ Hallowen night…….I’m sure SJ will be represented nicely by the Latinas inthe 408 area code
October 1st, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Jedi
Matt is looking for a job. Al could bring him back. Then maybe we could draft a effing WR!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:31 pm
951 just find a sword and jump on it. No one will miss. People would piss and deficate on your grave
October 1st, 2008 at 5:33 pm
yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
October 1st, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Ahhhhhhhhhps its P U R P L E time. Take care every one and 951…….tell your girl to quit calling me its your sister’s turn tonight
October 1st, 2008 at 5:35 pm
I’ll be busy with you mom ………… see I can go middle school too.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:37 pm
jedi keep keeping it real brethren!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:39 pm
brien
you know they will but mostly chicanas in sj don’t get it twisted…
October 1st, 2008 at 5:40 pm
951 – LOL – I was wondering who Matt was and then I put two and two together with the WR – That would be a disaster Al and Millen running the raiders I don’t know how you draft a WR who runs a 4.7 40 in the top 10 though – he couldn’t pick a decent head coach to save his life, but judging from the way he held onto that Detroit job despite stinking it up for 7 years, I’m pretty sure he would be cool kissing Al’s b#tt.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Its funny how when a ex player gives his view about his experience in Oakland they all say for the most part it was a nightmare, and peolpe get upset about it and then wanna drag their names through mud. Look,, if player after player after player comes to the same conclusion about the way things went in Oakland then just maybe there’s some truth to it. I bet some of you Kiffin Haters were the same people who were hoping last year that Rob Ryan would become our head coach. Now you guys have a ton of high hopes for our new “temp for hire” thinking we’re gonna go on a magical playoff run, but I doubt any of you would bet any money on that. I damn sure wouldnt!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Al davis should have never fired al kiffin. He said it himself the offense’s plays were called by kiffin and last time i checked that was the only reason we were still in games. The defense blew leads by playing prevent and allowing teams to rip them apart. Its rob ryans fault we keep losing bring a blitz every once and awhile.Kiffin was moving in the right direction the defense wasnt. Also al davis went out and spent money on players you can tell kiffin didn’t want.(D.Hall & J.Walker) Al should sign the team over to his son and his son should give a coach with a good football mind a full shot at succeding by allowing the coach to pick his players and assitants.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Jedi
He needed a few tries to land the right one bot lucked into Calvin Johnson at the end. Al should have packaged up Kiffin and Fargas and swapped him for Millen and Johnson.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:44 pm
LOL Sapp and Gannon said it. What a joke this franchise is.
The worst fron office in the NFL
The worst owner
The worst stadium
And most importantly, the worst fans (and the ugliest lol)
October 1st, 2008 at 5:44 pm
I cringe everytime I see a 3 man front. At least the last time they managed to get a pick.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Al Davis lied to DHall too about Kiffin’s perceived safety. Remember DHall saying that Kiffin staying was part of his signing? Well get ready for another disgruntled paycheck player. And don’t lay all the blame on DHall either – its the person that signed him that flat out lied to him.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:52 pm
why is everybody talking about mooch coming here?? did he interviewed or something? im lost
October 1st, 2008 at 5:55 pm
So………DDid any of you hear the new audio of tthe dumb azz who hired our new head coach in the break b4 they introduced him?
Here is kind of how it went:
T=Tyrant
H=Herrera
T- So who is going to introduce Cable?
H-I don’t know, why dont you do it?
T-I don’t know anything about him…..Bring me something. I need some information on him, quick…..
Now you may think I am lying, and thats fine, but I am sure BSPN has the audio………FUNNY SHYT…..He has really lost it! He doesn’t even know who he is hiring to cach the team! LOLLOOL….BRIAN Now is your chance!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:56 pm
I cant believe an owner like Al Davis can get away with crap that he is pulling with Lane Kiffen and not paying him. It shows that Al Davis lost reality with the times and somebody needs to take the team away from him. A coach that wants to be the head coach of the Raiders should have head looked at. I’m not a Raider fan and I feel sorry for the Raider nation and they should not be put thru the crap that they are going thru.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Jerry who cares what all these castoff and loser ex-raiders have to say? we gave gannon a chance, he did the best he could – damn good at times, but choked @ the big dance. Phuck Shanarat. Warren Sapp? He was pancaked more than anyone. Lookit Sapp the frikkin turtle, on Dance for the Stars now, oh hell. Wtf you talking about Warren? the man gave you a chance and you blast him for it. I don’t see you handing back the money you made in Oakland though, fatmouth.
I don’t always agree with AD but I don’t need to read this shhhhhhhiiit.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Jedi,
I agree with you. The bottom line is Kiffin took this job as a stepping stone, and he was going after the Arkansas job. He claimed he had no communication with the crypt keeper: perpetuating the myth that Al is closed off and seceretive like a mob boss.
I sided with Lane because i beleived the perception he was creating. After it is all said and done, Lane has not proven anything. Lane has not accomplished anything, he has proven to be self serving and untrustworthy. He dodged the trey wingo question on communication with Al after al made him look like a snake.
Lane was asking for players to build up his roster on the back end, and Al produced: lelie, james martin, and ben troupe all of which were upgrades to the offensive side of the ball.
Lane distanced himself from the defense after the mnf loss: showing his lack of integrity, leadership, and judgement.
I liked the kid, but he is the one that lost out along with the fans. Cable will have his shot if not a line will beout the door to get that job. Al is still the owner, and the players signed on to play for the raiders for big money. time to close the door and move on.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:59 pm
BTW, in case any of you couldn’t tell, I’m Oakglenn, without a doubt.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:00 pm
I expect D Hall to show up and play as well as he is capable. When he signed Al Davis didn’t know that Kiffin was going to continue in his insubordanance to the point that he would have to be fired.
Hall is making a lot of money. More that he would have been likely to get elsewhere. His personal pride should push him to be as good as he can possible be, and if he doesn’t like it here he can ask for a trade and then raise the level of his game to the point that he is worth decent compensation as a trade piece.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Winning will cure all of the locker room problems. If they start winning we will hear all kinds of stories about how the locker room has come together and how much the players enjoy playing together. If they keep loosing we will hear stories about a disfunctional locker room.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:05 pm
DHall is capable. It is the screwball scheme that has him off the ball and not in press. WTF blitz and have the corners 10-12 yds off the ball? The DC should be able to coach the kid up and say WTF if he was doing it himself. But he’s not. Its Ryan’s scheme, either a). cuz he is frikkin stupid, or b). he was trying to throw the game.
Who cares.
Don’t bother to respond.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Since Kiffin had to be fired, I’m glad that Cable is the man.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Well put, Warren Sapp. Most Raider fans share your sentiments, believe me. Thank you for speaking out.
Re: Cable and his disbelief in team rules….
Here we go again.
Everybody thinks because Madden pulled this off, it will work today.
But as Madden said, just today, as a matter of fact; Back when he was here, it was he, Davis, and Ron Wolf, and a few other guys. Everyone was involved with everything. Now, it’s Al building the teams by himself, building it with a bunch of morons who can run fast and bench press a lot, but can’t catch a football or tackle. They also have zero work ethic. Not the squad you want to toss out the team rulebook on. But whatever floats your boat, Cable. Kiffin imposed rules on these guys, and still couldn’t get them to do s’t. So you know how bad you’re going to be.
3-13. Guaranteed.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Rich gannon is another idiot. He says how impossible it was to win in Oakland: what does that mean it took a great Qb like him to win in Oakland… sounds like he is too full of him self. its hard to win in the nfl with a good organization. At the beggining of the year Cleveland was as good as gold: 6 primetime games, predicted to be in the playoffd, two good young Qb’s, a good hc, and a savy general manager. If romeo switches to Brady quinn and losses, he too will be fired. What happen where did they go wrong?
October 1st, 2008 at 6:11 pm
MR…….Post 218…..As serious as my kids!!!!!!!!!
October 1st, 2008 at 6:11 pm
More on Cable and his lack of team rules:
We lose most of our games in the 4th quarter. This is as indicative of a poor practicing team as anything. No rules means practices will probably be shorter. So, what exactly changes under Cable? Instead of losing by a score in the 4th quarter, our opponents will be opening up the score on us in the 4th quarter. You can put that on record as another prediction of mine, alongside 3-13.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:11 pm
I feel sorry for you pitiful Kiffin supporters. We will have some courage on offense. The team wanted him gone. I will not let you guys down
October 1st, 2008 at 6:12 pm
We shall win all 4 quarters in all three phases of the game. The team has already rallied behind me
October 1st, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Hey Cable….How does it feel to know that the tyrant does not even know who you are…..?
October 1st, 2008 at 6:13 pm
5-2 Dakota….8th Inning!
October 1st, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Cable sounds like another failure: art shell
October 1st, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Terrapin- why do you think Kiff was a good coach? He certainly belittled the organization and Al, but that’s not the job of the coach.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Here doesn’t need to know me. It is important the players know me. They want a real leader like me
October 1st, 2008 at 6:15 pm
He, excuse me Raider nation. The Idaho education didn’t treat me well
October 1st, 2008 at 6:16 pm
I have Al’s support and I won’t be an insurbordiante clown. Because Al has given me a chance I am now relevant
October 1st, 2008 at 6:16 pm
I drank the Kiffin KoolAid, and I won’t be so enamoured with the raiders as to waste my time yelling at my team every damn Sunday (lack of continuity = lose) . But Kiffin did blab his mouth too much. go yell at your boss and see where that gets you. then go complain to everyone in your workplace about your boss. for weeks, months, etc – You’d be fired too…
October 1st, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Tom Cable,
When I see you at Safeway in a year bagging my groceries, can I get your autograph?
October 1st, 2008 at 6:18 pm
3-13? We are winning the next 3 games so we can be over .500 for the first time in 6 years. I wanted this job. I grew up loving this franchise. I’m not like Kiffin using the job as a stepping stone.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:19 pm
I will be coaching until I die
October 1st, 2008 at 6:19 pm
next three games – ??? that puts you at eh 4-12 for the season. Unless you got more in the tank. Doubtful.
that Idaho education did you wrong bud.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Bishop- that’s why I have his job
October 1st, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Did any of you hear the new audio of the dumb azz who hired our new head coach in the break b4 they introduced him?
Here is kind of how it went:
T=Tyrant
H=Herrera
T- So who is going to introduce Cable?
H-I don’t know, why dont you do it?
T-I don’t know anything about him…..Bring me something. I need some information on him, quick…..
Now you may think I am lying, and thats fine, but I am sure BSPN has the audio………FUNNY SHYT…..He has really lost it! He doesn’t even know who he is hiring to cach the team! LOLLOOL
October 1st, 2008 at 6:21 pm
4-12 will not happen on my watch
October 1st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Go drink the ad koolaid. I’m not fooled. Sure he has some valid points. But wtf, cable is not kiffin. For better or worse AD has been trying to get him fired for ever it seems and he is gambling with the raiders season and our livelihood as the fans of the team. So wtf become chargers, or niner fans/ Healllzz naw! go fishing or something. Eff it.
So yeah, I’ll be watching from afar, but don’t look for me on Sunday.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Tom Cable,
You look like the typical fat loser eating chicken wings and dousing himself in cheap beer at a sports bar. You really do. Your double chin has early heart attack written all over it. Just hope the stress from your upcoming job as Raiders Head Scapegoat doesn’t push you over the edge. Grilled chicken, lots of veggies and fruits, lots of water, exercise, yoga, and no more than a couple of light beers per day, Cable. Nice lean diet. I’m telling you, you don’t look like you can handle the stress that goes with working for Al Davis. You look the rent a cop driving the little cage car around Wal Mart’s parking lot. It’s not good.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
I’m out!
October 1st, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Chaos doesn’t want to win. He likes Kiffin and his losing ways
October 1st, 2008 at 6:27 pm
LOL…..What makes you think that? Because I speak of factual audio that your boss spoke…..LOL You UCLA Clown!
October 1st, 2008 at 6:28 pm
What am I doing talking to you like you are Cable…..LOL
October 1st, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Lane I’m sensitive about two chin………you know Charlie Weis and I are twins. But guess what we at least have jobs unlike you
October 1st, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Chaos because as everyone knows……you are an idiot
October 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm
WANDER IF ANYONE HAS SET THAT STUPID “I’M IN” SIGN ON FIRE YET ? PROBABLY CABLE !!!
October 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm
The players responded well to me today. Glad that the drama is over with. Now they can focus on winning games. The last coach wasn’t concerned with winning but I am
October 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm
I will carry the name because you said so….OK!
October 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Tom, of course you’re not like me. That’s why you’re probably not going to win more than 2 games as a Raider head coach in the one year you’re here. I’ve won 5, lard ass. My wife’s calling. She’s feeling sorry for me. About to give me some sympathy tail. My wife’s hot, Tom. What’s yours look like? Oh, never mind. I’ve seen her. I mistook her for Warren Sapp once.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
I’m in was a loser slogan. Most of the team sound it sounded to cheesy
October 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Those of you who don’t think AD rules the black hole are just delusional.
It would be different if it was just Kiffin making noise I’d tend to agree with the AD supporters. It’s not just him, it’s everyone whoever worked there.
Wake the freak up!
AD must go, and he must keep his fingers out of the football!
October 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Yeah do that but I msut get confirmation from big Al
October 1st, 2008 at 6:32 pm
must……sorry that Idaho education is killing me again
October 1st, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Respect my boss Al. Have some class unlike Lane
October 1st, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Hey Little Biotch Brien,
Did this blog give you your props man, for being down wit Al?
October 1st, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Al fired me because he knew I’d make the team better with my own system, and not his. He got rid of me now so I wouldn’t have the wins under my belt that Gruden had, so his dumb ass loyalists could use my record to rationalize my premature termination. He’s going to give you two years because he knows you suck, Tom. He doesn’t want to win with anyone else’s ideas. Just his own. Anyhow, take care, Tom. I’ll miss that double chin. You make Farley look like a track runner.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:35 pm
LOL……………This dude….
October 1st, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Tom Cable,
Is that you biotch Tard Boy (Brien)?
I recognize the 3rd grade grammar.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Farely a dead drug addict. I’m a food and Raider addict. And I’m your coach
October 1st, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Tom Cable, you’re spineless. You’ve never stood up to anyone in this league. You just walk with your arms out like you’re buff. It’s all fat. I told you before we could go to the parking lot and fight. You always laughed it off like I was joking. You’re fat and spineless, Tom.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Cable will you be at my first home game against the jets?
October 1st, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Lane I don’t do any fighting. I’m a grown man, I’ll shoot your ass
October 1st, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Espn put up a stat: the raiders have lost 7 games while leading in the 4th qaurter during the kiffin era. i remeber about three with some very questionable clock management. Cable just needs to bring in some wins. The raiders have more lost leads in the 4th qaurter than any team since the 07 season. kiffin should have been playing his young players: i hope cable learns from this and just throws jlh and schillens in the fire along with mario henderson. if he does this the raiders may have a chance to make a run at the end of the year: curry, leleie, and green are just not good players: lets see what the youngsters got.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Brien? Don’t ever compare me to that dumb azz!
October 1st, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Dick V, I’ll play the young players
October 1st, 2008 at 6:41 pm
we need to find players that have the will to win. cornell green’s holding penalty on the goal line is just ridiculous.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Cable, if I ever see you with a gun I’ll kick the jelly roll off of you.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:43 pm
i saw three passes to ron curry that he did not even get his head turned around to look for the ball: not even able to try to make a play because he is notgetting out of his breaks quick enough. curry needs to ride the pine he is just not a good receiver.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Darron Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:56 pm
I cant believe an owner like Al Davis can get away with crap that he is pulling with Lane Kiffen and not paying him.
Goodell is supposedly thinking of making greaze ball pay it out of television revenue. Luckily for kiffen the NFL pools the money for all the games because no one watches the faders on TV.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Al just hired me to get even with my dad for crushing him in the Super Bowl. Al hired me to destroy me. If Gruden had a kid my age, he’d go after him. But I was the next best thing. But I got what I wanted, a gang of money I would have never gotten at USC. And I’m about to get more. Goodell’s going to bitch slap Davis, like I’m going to bitch slap your fat, jelly roll ass when I see you, Tom. I don’t like you.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Bob Marley is Mike Taylor, btw.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Herrera does not post on blogs. He can’t type.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Al called Herrera “Tom” like a hundred times when I was there. I asked Herrera why. Herrera whispered to me that sometimes Al thinks he’s Tom Flores. That’s who you’re working for now, Cable. Ya fat f’k.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Hey Dakota….Not worried huh….1-0 in the series you homo….I know your gonna see this cause your sorry azz cubbies just lost!
October 1st, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Some of you guys really have to step back and think about this. This sht is so 2nd grade its ridiculous. Tell me – how many times have you seen PR battles waged? It goes on in courtrooms and living rooms. And its always the same story: Vilify the person and make them look bad in the public’s eye so everyone was sympathy for you – i.e. you (we) are the victim(s) …Victimized by HIM (Kiffin)!
This sht is so elementary. I saw it as soon as I began reading Jerry post of what Al Davis was saying and the letter he supposedly wrote. How many times has Davis pulled this stunt? This sht is really retarded.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Exactly, Terrapin. But Al Davis is different. He’s got a legion of retards that will believe everything he says. He’s kind of smart for playing to them the way he did yesterday. He’s going down regardless, though. I’ve got that son of a bitch. And Tom Cable, my foot once a meeting with your fat whale of an ass. What do you say Ricky’s parking lot, 9pm sharp?
October 1st, 2008 at 6:54 pm
I’ll be out there with my Karate Kid outfit, Tom. Be there.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:54 pm
It’s the Raider Nation, if you don’t like it, get the hell out of here!
October 1st, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Listen to the players man – the players. Both the players that have left and the ones that are still here. The ones that are still here, all I hear is they were behind Kiffin 100% – EVEN AS THE MAN IS FIRED!
Here’s a dose of reality for you: When you’re boss gets canned that’s a free ride to rip him as you see fit. But NO ONE has done that to Kiffin. No one except Al Davis.
Sounds like you guys take Kiffin’s bluntest with players more personal than they do. If it was a problem don’t you think you would’ve at least heard about it by now. Open your damned eyes man!
October 1st, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Has anyone seen any proof that Kiffin was fired? how do we even know the media isn’t just making this all up? Were any of you there? I think Al and Lane are just playing the media, just like they did with the free agent moves and drafting McFadden. Al and Lane are taking us to the Super Bowl! Everything is fine! These rumors are getting really old.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:57 pm
I agree, Raiders Rain. Just because the media reports that Kiffin has been fired, people believe it. Al and Lane are just messing with everyone. I’m In! Super Bowl!
October 1st, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Listening to MR, Terrapin, and Dakota crying like little girls is music to my ears.
No wonder you girls are so in awe of Kiffin.
You cry just like her.
Is it “painful”?
Just Win Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:00 pm
# K-Rock Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Kiffin will go to Denver as their new Offensive Coordinator and kick our ass for 20 years.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:01 pm
# K-Rock Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
You guys that live in Oakland need to riot and burn down the stadium.
Al Davis has got to go!!!!!
October 1st, 2008 at 7:02 pm
# RaiderJ Says (regarding Kiffin being asked to resign):
January 25th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
I can’t believe this. I’am seriously sick to my stomach…….
October 1st, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Fook you all for talking crap about Jerry. Its like being one of those bitczhes at home talking about how something they dont agree with on TV but keep coming back for more.
That is just straight stoopid. Why talk crap about J. Mac for bring YOU the news. It is news from his take but seriously, quotes from former players and you blame Jerry, Jesus Christ, some of ya’ll are just retarded!
*** I am seriously starting to think that many of these posts come from people on the AD Football payroll AKA The Oakland Raiders… aka the blood I share for the Nation that is beyond disfunctional but like any family I will never quit, I will just take the beating year after year and hope that one day the light will shine from these years of darkness.
**** Thank you Jerry. I love the fact that you provide the heartbeat and the news that is unavailable anywhere else… If someone finds something that is similar and as updated, please drop me a line but I have all the respect for Jerry McDonald for all he does.
To reiterate, if you dont like Jerry McDonald, STFU and stay away.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:03 pm
# K-Rock Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Al needs to go. Dennis Green says he has no ideal what Al is talking about.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:03 pm
# vegas raider Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
This is such a disgrace, Al has made the Oakland organization a place to avoid for players and coaches. It doesn’t even matter if Kiffen is a good coach or not, the way he is treating him makes it probably the most undesirable coaching position in any sport.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Davis f’ked the players and he f’ked the Nation with this BS – I aint gonna sugarcoat it.
The team was lockstep behind Kiffin. Kiffin got Rob Ryan to FINALLY blitz more (anyone notice how much more aggressive Ryan has been getting after Denver prob at the bequest of Kiffin who was complaining about the lack of pressure?).
Even the defensive players were behind Kiffin, even after he was fired. Nnamdi clearly was…but oh wait, Kiffin was being to hard on them ..BS!
October 1st, 2008 at 7:05 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Wow, you guys RELAX!!!!!!! Jesus H. Christ, this crap goes on ALL THE TIME in these types of organizations. They’ve had some disagreements, Kiff told Davis to fire him, Davis said you don’t like what goes on, resign. Davis ain’t gonna fire him, Kiffin ain’t gonna resign. If it would’ve happened, it would’ve happened BY NOW. Jeez, Everyone calm down, this was last weeks news. Now let’s all go back to work on the draft.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:07 pm
# Shawnraiders81 Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Here are some facts for you dumb asses who want Kiffin out.
1) Davis runs off Gruden, we lose the Superbowl to Gruden. You do the Math.
2) Davis fires Turner, Turner takes the Chargers deep into the playoffs and beats us twice. once again you do the math.
3) Davis hires Art Shell and bed & breakfeast and we go 2-14. yep you guessed it do the math.
4) 5 years 100 coaches and even Gannon said it was an issue as to why this Organization sucks ass.
Maybe Al Davis needs to fire himself. it’s abviously not anything the coaches are doing wrong, they don’t have enough time to do so.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:08 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Wow. You guys still haven’t relaxed???? Jeez, here, don’t you guys remember this with Jon Gruden?? Gruden is going to Ohio State, Gruden is here, there and everyhwere. Every few weeks Gruden was fighting with Davis and going somewhere. And no, Gruden wasn’t run off by Davis. That’s what happens when you have a hot commodity coach. It’s like when your girlfriend is hot, dudes talk to her, ask her out. Maybe some of you guys don’t know about that part.
Nancy Gay comes out and says Davis stripped Kiffin of all his power. That’s LUDICROUS!! Amy Trask completely refutes that, Amy is a lawyer and frankly, Kiff would’ve filed a grievance with the league if that would’ve happened or sued for breach of contract. One thing I can tell you about Davis, HE SUES OVER BREACHES, he doesn’t get sued over breaches. Kiffin, when he signed on, had contractural specificities that allow him a lot of control. Which was wise of him, giving Al Davis’ long history.
Next, contrary to what you all believe, James Lofton and Davis are on good terms. I’m sure Lofton is coming up north here to explain to Davis what happened.
Here, I’ll let you guys in on what happened to Lofton in San Diego. When the lame Dischargers choked another playoff game even tho Brady threw 3 pix, all the players went to Lofton, not Norv. Talk about being UNDERMINED. Norv fired Lofton on the spot, and Lofton would be a great hire here in Oakland in any capacity. I’m sure Kiff wouldn’t want him, but Lofton has been over in SD for 6 years, which corresponds to the lame Discharge rise. Coincidence??? Probably not.
Lastly, yeah, I know, Oakglenn is an idiot, I don’t know sh**. Remember you heard it from me here first: Holmgren will be coaching the Whiners by this time next year.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:09 pm
I’m done. Those of you who can’t see night from day – keep walking yall blind asses around thinking everything’s honky-dory.
(This coming from a guy that was all about Al Davis – check the record)
October 1st, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Another player, Sapp tells the truth about this sad organization. Davis’s press confrence has a much different light when you consider what players have to say. Somebody should Fed-ex Davis th take a hike.
I’m voting with my feet next year. I’ll still follow my team but I won’t put another nickel into his pocket.
I told the ticket office that “Al Davis is accountable
to me the season ticket holder and he should go away”.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Mann! You doodz are sumptin elze. Back in the day they uzedta call us dizfuktional becauze we would mazter bait on the opposing teamm when they walked outta the tunnel. But when it cumz to being dizfuktional you punkz take the cake. Back in my day no one would ever dream of dizzing mazter Daviz. When mazter Daviz zaid jump we’d azk how high on the way up. That’z why LK got fired, he had the nerve to queztion mazter Daviz.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:13 pm
My goal in life is for eveyone to hate Al Davis as much as I do. I miss Gruden so bad it hurts.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:16 pm
# Bob Marley Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Gee, missed a few hours and come back to find madness….Sorry for the long post but please bear with me, I think we all have to wonder:
1.- Knowing what we all know about Davis (never affraid of a fight or a lawsuit..the whole Shanahann firing-money owned deal)….then I don´t get this:
If he decided that he wants Kiffin out, why not just fire him, refuse to pay him a dime and let Kiffin make the next move?.
If Kiffin wanted to go to court to get his money, do you really believe AD would cave? AD and his attorneys would fight back with their own breach of contract allegations regarding the alleged college jobs and even if Kiffin were in the end awarded the money, AD would probably look at the fact that he put him trough that whole ordeal as a win, let alone the fact that it would take a long time to actually pay him, if at all.
2.- If Kiffin is so unhappy, why wouldn´t he just quit and move on?. He´s 32, I´m sure he does not need the money and I´m even more certain that he´d have a job very soon.
In reality, when a coach is in a situation like the one that´s been ”reported”, the only thing holding him back from quitting is the fact that he has a contract and he´d be subject to repercusions for failing to fulfill his commitment and the Raiders would actually still have his rights and would be subject to some sort of compensation if another NFL team were to hire him.
He´s essentially being given a free pass to get out of such a ”horrible” situation, he certainly would come out of it smelling like roses, the media would make him the latest victim of a mad man, he´s rightfully viewed as a guy with a bright future and he would get a good laugh out of all the bashing AD would surely take.
I don’t get it, what would make him wanna stick around?..the money? really?…I honestly don´t see Kiffin as that kind of man, I´m sure he´d rather have his freedom and dignity than the money, which by the way he´ll earn somewhere else for sure.
It just doesn´t seem right to me, I´m not claiming to be a completely made-up story either, it´s just a little hard to believe the way it´s been portrayed.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Come back Terrapin.
I need the laughs.
Just Win baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:16 pm
# Bob Marley Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
That being said….
I´m gonna say it, I´m a bit worried here, I have always liked Kiffin, I praised him all season long. If he actually does resign or gets fired it would be devastatting and there would be no one to blame but Davis, I certainly hope Kiffin stays and things work out.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:17 pm
# Raiderkoolaid Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
I will believe that there is an ounce of truth to this rumor when I see the press conference. The media loves to stur up stuff just to try to gain readers or viewership and doesn’t care an iota about truth, or who they may hurt in the process. They view AD as a villan and so they jump on any unsubstanciated rumor to promote their stereotype.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:18 pm
[...] A recap of Day 1 of the Tom Cable era. [...]
October 1st, 2008 at 7:18 pm
I’m not pathetic. I swear!
October 1st, 2008 at 7:18 pm
# Bob Marley Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
A couple of observations…
The ESPN report first stated the Raiders had already contacted Dennis Green about the job ”opening”…
-Green was called and asked about it, he said that did not happen.
The ESPN report states that in the letter sent to Kiffin: ”Davis stated that only he would have control over his staff and full personnel decisions, sources said.”….
- An interview between Lane Kiffin and James Lofton for a position on the staff will take place on Monday.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:21 pm
# kush Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 11:32 am
The problem here seems to me that everytime one of those BSPN writers say anything, everyone gets their panties all in a bunch. Who did BSPN use as their source for this story, other than their infamous “anonymous source close to Kiffin with knowledge of the situation”?
Only a moron would believe that crap and get all butt hurt about a half a** story like that. The bottom line is wait and see. If anything the Raiders spokesperson came out and flatly DENIED all of this foolishness, so right now I believe him over BSPN’s mystery “source”. Wake up and get a grip people!
October 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pm
# K-Rock Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
It is a sad day for the Raider Nation. Al really thinks that he has enough talent to win in the NFL. That is why he can’t find a coach. He picks the players and expects the coach to win with them. There is no coach alive that can win with the crap the Raiders are fielding. Al Davis has missed on so many players the last several years that have became stars in other places. I know the system has a lot to do with players maturing and learning, but raw talent has to be there.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pm
# K-Rock Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
I know people who have 4 decades of driving experience. That does not mean I want to ride in the car with them.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:27 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
What I love is the “BIG” hint that Lane is gone is he isn’t wearing any Raider gear on the sidelines like the Raider Coaches. Someone pointed this out: Mike Nolan is wearing the exact same gear as Kiff!!! So what does this mean?????????? Let me tell you what it means: it means according to asswipe Adam Shefter Mike Nolan can never coach the Raider organization!!! Hope you guys get the joke.
Look head coaches are wearing under armour gear because of a sponsorship clause in the contract Under Armour has with the Senior Bowl and the NFL!!! You guys are such freaking knuckleheads!!! And no one more so than Adam “Denver Broncos rule” Shefter. Don’t believe me???? There’s the exact same clause in the NFL league contract for Head Coaches: they have to wear their team gear so the league can shill stuff. Still don’t believe me??? Ask Mike Nolan. He and Jack Del Rio had to get league permission this year to NOT wear that gear and wear suits instead. Sheeeeeesh. The sky is falling, the sky is falling….
October 1st, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Hey Sapp you forgot one thing, they didn’t throw deep during your tenure.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Oakglenn Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Let me rephrase this: Kiff could easily be gone. he didn’t look good on the sidelines I will say that. I’m sure we’ll know by the end of the week. Clearly it would be a HUGE step back.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Warren had no problem taking Al’s cash when no other team wanted him for that price. Fat fuk.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:33 pm
The RAIDERS will win with Coach Cable ,we dont need a liar as coach,a wanna be VICTIM,the Raiders will be winners,but all of you losers get tf out,naysayers we dont need!
October 1st, 2008 at 7:33 pm
I have been adie hard raider fan for over 35 years, and yes the situation the past five years has been awful, but lets not forget al davis is the silver and black always has been and always will be, everybody blames him for the past five years, but lets not forget he is the reason we have been to the superbowl and have won it..heck just five years ago we went to the superbowl, yes we lost, but atleast we went..sure we are having bad times, but al will right the ship..he will make the right choices and yes we wil reurn to the promised land again, maybe a few more years, but with our talent that we have on the roster,w eare only a few good players away…IN AL WE
TRUST
October 1st, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Cable was a great College coach at idaho!
October 1st, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Oakglenn Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Honestly Old Raider Fan, I’ll bet Al Davis and lane Kffin don’t know what’s gonna happen next. Seriously. Personally, I think everyone is gonna cool down, and we’ll go back to evaluating players and it’s back to business as usual.
The thing about Lofton and Saunders coming in doesn’t feel good if you’re a Kiff supporter, which I am.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pm
11-35 is not too shabby.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:36 pm
To all the haters,STFU,and wait,OUT
October 1st, 2008 at 7:37 pm
How can so many dim wits be on one blog at one time.. Oh Yeah…This is the Fader nation.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Warren had no problem taking Al’s cash when no other team wanted him for that price. The senile old fool had it coming to him. Way to go big guy.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Man I like Cable. If its 10 reps then its 10 reps, if its 15, do the 15 and out. Don’t care if those reps suck azz, Im sticking to my math baby…Kwami and Gallery endorsing Cable? Dude!….”That’s all that matters. Be where you’re supposed to be when you’re supposed to be there. That’s plenty of rules. We’re grown men.” you hear that Javon?… Im getting that Bugel feeling. Hope I’m wrong.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Love the article about Cable, looks like Al got his YES man HC to go along with his ultimate YES man Ryan…can’t wait to see his “uptempo” offense…how many INTs do you think Russell has against the Saints?? I’m thinking 3 uptempo INTs…
Kiffin wasn’t a great coach but him being fired will affect Russell the most, he was handling him perfectly by bringing him along slowly…setting him up to succeed.
Has Tom Cable been fired yet?
October 1st, 2008 at 7:45 pm
MR Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 3:18 pm
“exposing himself to be a slanderous harasser.”
MR
That’s something that you have done yourself countless times, so you obviously are speaking from experience.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:49 pm
A week ago, I would have called 2-14. But now I’ll go with 1-15.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Here’s the facts: The Raiders’ winning percentage from 1990-2007 is 47%. Their winning percentage 2000-2007 is 41%. Those are facts. During that time, Al Davis is the only management constant during that time, and he has arranged the team’s by-laws so he has virtually all of the decision power. The correlation is clear, and the facts are in: Al Davis has turned the Raiders into a worse-than-average team over the past two decades. Do you trust his decision to fire Lane Kiffin? Based on what evidence?
October 1st, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Sapp just didn’t have it anymore. He was a good player a few years ago, but aging has dragged him down. Have you noticed how much better our defense has been without Sapp? It’s like night and day. Getting rid of Sapp was the best move the Raiders made to improve their defense. It sounds like he resents not being wanted anymore, by any team, but has decided to let his last employer have it. He better stick with something he knows like dancing. Your football days are done.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Take a look around,haters jumping in,and if they are Raider fans so be it!However,I have niner coworkers who are LOVING this and ADMIT POSTING here for fun,just be aware ,RAIDERS
October 1st, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Al Davis puts himself in front of the media to give the Nation a complete depiction of the facts. He them subjects himself to media questions and answers them without hesitation and completely. Also providing letters to Kiffin from within the Raiders Organization, all of this for us in the Raider Nation. The team has talented young players and they will win football games, Al Davis wants to win football games. How come so many so called Raider fans are openly bashing Al Davis and backing Lane Kiffin, Kiffin who lied to the Raider Nation and is a Sh*ty play caller with a record of 5-15. Three passes in the second half of the Bills game, very poor clock management, 76 yard field goal against the wind, using Russell like he is a freshman quarter back, bashed coaches and players (that’s our job as fans not the head football coach). Some of you should really consider being a fan of another team, because you guys are MORONS…
October 1st, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I think Sapp is upset with AL. Remember when Sapp retired AL told him we will do something for you to honor your retirement. AL never did and this Sapp’s way of getting back at him.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Raider Realist…be careful man…you’re making too much sense. Those guys can’t follow you because if they did they would not be backing Kiffin….The very same guys that wanted to give us the finger in his first year…but hey…lmao
October 1st, 2008 at 8:01 pm
The team is out of shape and is living up to the “Faders” logo. The head coach was a punk and got canned. The new head coach is cutting back on reps for a team that is already unable to finish an opponent due to being babied and pampered. There are maybe 5 players of NFL caliber on the team and Russell ain’t one of em’. Prediction: 1-15
October 1st, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Hey doodz, you all claim to be Raider fanz but you bazh one another and make fun of the orginization. Where iz the loyalty to the black and zilver? I think we all need to take a chill pill and figure a way to reunite for the zake of the nation. Maybe if we ztarted all over again, like we never knew each other from before and we all juzt met today for the firzt time? I’d be more than happy to faciliate. I’ll ztart by telling a ztory about myzelf so that you doodz can get to know me as a perzon. Then maybe when I’m done another member of the Raider Nation can tell hiz ztory and so on until we form a bond for the nation.
Once at band camp I met thiz really hot chick from Auztin zo I ztarted calling her Tex. Thiz chick waz zo hot all the doodz waz walking around with woodiez all the time. One day I finally got the nerve to azk her to walk down to the lake with me. To my zurprize zhe zaid yes, but zuggezted that we take our coatz becauze it looked like rain. Zo we walked off hand and hand through the forezt juzt az it ztarted to rain. Once we got to the creek the rain suddenly ztopped and the zun popped out. Az Tex waz ztarting to crozz the ztream I reached for her jacket and azked, “may I hold your coat Tex? Then….then… Aw! Zhit! I forgot where I waz going with this ztory. Dam Alz hemmoroidz dizeaze to hell anyway. Anyhow I ztink you doodz getz the idea. Who would like to be the next Raider fan to tell hiz ztory?
October 1st, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Could be true, Lee. But Sapp’s telling the truth, so it doesn’t matter.
When the reports of Kiffin being asked to resign first surfaced, you guys all said it was rumors. I’m sorry, but it’s the credibility of the Davis loyalist that’s out the window now, and the credibility of the Davis “haters” that’s riding high. Speak on it, Warren.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Trojan, if you are going to predict 1-15 then just make sure you come back in here and apologize when they win. Atlanta, Miami, KC and Houston….you’re telling me we can’t we one of these games. For sure, I guarantee you we will not lose to Houston and Atlanta. Just make sure you are ready to come on here and apologize ok?
October 1st, 2008 at 8:09 pm
MR….Are you good at browsing for audio clips?
October 1st, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Mr….Will you STFU up. Kiff said he never spoke with Al and Al documented his communication with him throughout this process. Who is lying now?
Your points are so stupid and I am getting so sick of you coming on here and bla bla bla…..god dang put some logic in your argument.
Only your dumba$$ would think Al is going to get sued for slandering. Al may lose in his case for paying Kiff but he aint going to lose any case for slandering….you big DA.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Im getting the same feeling about Cable being a Joe Bugle type.
No rules?
Only rules be on time.
Man, here we go again….
October 1st, 2008 at 8:10 pm
OK- Heck, we would run the table if all the games ended at halftime. No, I’ll stick with 1-15.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:11 pm
K-Rock Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Kiffin will go to Denver as their new Offensive Coordinator and kick our ass for 20 years.
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On Jan 25th, the guy still had some credibility with me. That was before he came out and didn’t do shat this season but cry and run the ball 2 times into the tackles, call a screen pass for 3 yards, and punt EVERY FREAKIN SERIES OF THE 2nd HALF in one game and then try a 76yard FG in another game. Hold time outs for no reason, and waste a 70 million dollar QB.
I defended him after the Buffalo game. I let the 2 time outs slide because he is young. However, now I don’t think it was a mistake. I think he did it on purpose to try and show up Rob Ryan. (Who sucks anyway and doesn’t need help from Kiffin to show his inability to do his job!)
After the San Diego game, I lost anything I had for him. The team quit 2 weeks in a row. They freakin quit. Plain and simple. That is a direct reflection of the HC. Kiffin managed the game like crap.
The 76 yard FG was the icing on the cake. I don’t care if it was a shot at Al Davis. Keep that crap off the field and out of the press. You don’t put your team between you and your boss. Don’t use the team as a weapon to fight your battles. Those guys depend on the HC to put them in a situation to win.
If any other HC in the NFL tried a 76 yard FG in a game, they would still be laughing at him on ESPN today. Yet, Kiffin gets a pass because he works for Al Davis.
So apparently, according to ESPN, its ok to be insubordinate and throw games in the NFL, as long as you and them don’t like the owner.
Kiffin may be a good coach even if he is a liar and a waste as a person. Both of those traits apply to Shanahan, but it hasn’t stopped him from winning games.
However, he has become NOT GOOD for the Raiders because he was more worried about proving a point to his boss than winning games.
JUST DO YOUR JOB, BABY!
October 1st, 2008 at 8:13 pm
I am pretty good at it. Dakota is better at finding audio and video clips. Now sukking a dik. That I’m good at.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:15 pm
POST 289 – MOST PLAYER’S, THOSE WITH ANY CLASS ANY WAY WOUDN’T RIP A COACH OR ANY ONE WHO HAS JUST BEEN FIRED IN THE OPEN MEDIA. WHO KNOW,S WHEN YOU WILL CROSS PATHES WITH THISS PERSON AGAIN DOWN THE LINE
October 1st, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Best article yet!
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/01/raiders-owner-takes-this-coach-firing-personally/
October 1st, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Yeah JT those are the same rules John Madden had, so yes!!! here we go again.
MR, you must have a tiny tool, feeling like a big man with a little tiny pee pee. Your posts are lacking any true knowledge of anything but Chaos gets it doesn’t he…
October 1st, 2008 at 8:16 pm
All the other post, I stand behind.
I have never said Al is without blame in this situation.
K-Rock Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
You guys that live in Oakland need to riot and burn down the stadium.
Al Davis has got to go!!!!!
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I like this one. You guys need to do this.
Then go kick Lame Queffin in his sac as well.
Don’t leave out Rob Ryan and the drunk guy that does games on the Radio.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:18 pm
I wonder if the two Oakglenn’s are really the same person with a personality disorder?
October 1st, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Greazy al has CMD and he’s taking his act to Sons of Anarchy. Watch the show and see what I mean.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Guess I was kinda shocked that Kiffin’s gone. Hopefully Cable and the rest can somewhat get us back on track. It’s been utterly ridiculous for way too long.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Is it a coincidence that our run defense improved since Sapp’s been gone?
October 1st, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Well, they had the press conference, and now I do believe it. I just couldn’t believe that Kiffin, hired and given such an opportunity, would be ready to jump ship eight games into a contract that if he were conservitive would give him a degree of financial security for the rest of his life, not to mention that once he fullfilled the contract he could use it as a stepping stone. If given an opportunity like that I would certainly see it through.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:22 pm
# Art Shell’s Hat aka MR Says:
March 1st, 2007 at 2:18 pm
A lot of bashing of Jeff Garcia.
Rich, coming from the fan base a team that has won less games over the last two seasons than Garcia won last year alone.
Jeff Garcia is special to the Raiders for two reasons:
One is that he’s a veteran quarterback with leadership skills, but more importantly because his more west coast oriented skills are just what the team needs at the qb position to rid this organization of the unholy stinch that Al Davis and his brain fart, the Vertical Offense, has left on it. Jeff Garcia is an antagonist to everything that Al Davis believe in, just like Gannon was, which is why Garcia will be every bit as good as Gannon was when he was here.
If anything has been proven in recent years, the farther the Raiders go in the opposite direction of Al’s philosophy, the more they win. The more they go Al’s way, the more they lose.
Al Davis is a natural born loser. Garcia is the carbon opposite of him, genetically, spiritually, and physically. Look Al Davis. He’s never had a drink or smoked, and he can’t make it to the bathroom. He’s 80, not 97. An 80 year old who’s never drank or smoked should be in good enough shape to get around on their own, barring any diseases related to old age. But Al Davis is a physical weakling, along with being a mental weakling. In fact, his fast physical decline is in conjuncture with his fast mental decline. He’s never been strong in either category.
Jeff Garcia, on the other hand, is strong, mentally and physically, like Rich Gannon. He’s a sharp decision maker, and he’s everything we need to permanently rid our offense of the dysfunctional, poisonous Al Davis mindset.
ART SHELL’S HAT!
Girl, I’m a freak, you shouldn’t say those things!
October 1st, 2008 at 8:27 pm
K-Rock Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
It is a sad day for the Raider Nation. Al really thinks that he has enough talent to win in the NFL. That is why he can’t find a coach. He picks the players and expects the coach to win with them. There is no coach alive that can win with the crap the Raiders are fielding. Al Davis has missed on so many players the last several years that have became stars in other places. I know the system has a lot to do with players maturing and learning, but raw talent has to be there.
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I have to say that the Defensive line still has a ways to go, along with the offensive line.
Wilson was the only decent free agent signing this season. I’m not sure about Harris.
Russell, Miller, Bush, McFadden, and Higgins look like decent pickups.
And the jury is still out on if a coach can win with this group.
One thing for sure, though, the COACH HAS TO AT LEAST TRY!
LAME QUIT ON THIS TEAM A LONG TIME BEFORE DAVIS FIRED HIM!
LAME QUIT with 6 minutes left in the Buffalo game.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:30 pm
I am not for one or the other of these guys.
I don’t like either one of them.
I just want to see the Raiders win a dang game.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:33 pm
# MaddenRaider Says:
March 30th, 2007 at 1:13 pm
Lodog, zactly on Quinn. Both him and Russell are overrated. Both are boneheads.
All those responsible for last year’s offense are out of Oakland, except for, of course, the person that actually hired them all. But, we’re stuck with him. He made the one good decision he has left in him, hiring a young head coach with substantial offensive experience. Now it’s time for him to go to an island somewhere and let a better man run this football team.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:39 pm
how can you get mad at someone for telling the truth Warren Sapp is saying what everyone else says its only obvious
October 1st, 2008 at 8:39 pm
No wonder the sorry azz Donks fans come on our blog……They have 4 comments or less on all of their articles…….LOL…..
October 1st, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Hey doodz, you all claim to be Raider fanz but you bazh one another and make fun of the orginization. Where iz the loyalty to the black and zilver? I think we all need to take a chill pill and figure a way to reunite for the zake of the nation. Maybe if we ztarted all over again, like we never knew each other from before and we all juzt met today for the firzt time? I’d be more than happy to faciliate. I’ll ztart by telling a ztory about myzelf so that you doodz can get to know me as a perzon. Then maybe when I’m done another member of the Raider Nation can tell hiz ztory and so on until we form a bond for the nation.
Once at band camp I met thiz really hot chick from Auztin zo I ztarted calling her Tex. Thiz chick waz zo hot all the doodz waz walking around with woodiez all the time. One day I finally got the nerve to azk her to walk down to the lake with me. To my zurprize zhe zaid yes, but zuggezted that we take our coatz becauze it looked like rain. Zo we walked off hand and hand through the forezt juzt az it ztarted to rain. Once we got to the creek the rain suddenly ztopped and the zun popped out. Az Tex waz ztarting to crozz the ztream I reached for her jacket and azked, “may I hold your coat Tex? Then….then… Aw! Zhit! I forgot where I waz going with this ztory. Dam Alz hemmoroidz dizeaze to hell anyway. Anyhow I ztink you doodz getz the idea. Who would like to be the next Raider fan to tell hiz ztory?
October 1st, 2008 at 8:42 pm
This team needs a pair of tackles. Mario Henderson may be one of them, and the book is still out on Kwame Harris even though he struggled against San Diego. I thought he was playing well against Denver until he got his leg rolled up on from behind. I hope his struggles against SD were just because he was coming back from injuries.
The team also needs a dependable WR. Maybe one of the young guys, Higgins or Schilens, could step up and be that guy, or maybe if Walker could get healthy he could be that guy, but someone needs to step up and do it.
Other than that this team is pretty solid, though not very deep. We will find out starting against N.O. but I think this team could be pretty good.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:49 pm
# MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2007 at 11:43 am
McCown starts because Culpepper and Walter are Davis guys. End of story. Wise decision? Probably not. You should play the best guy, period. which makes Walter a better choice.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:51 pm
This team needs a pair of titties. Mario Henderson may be one of them, and the hook is still outfor Kwame Harris even though he struggled against Santa Clause. I thought he was playing well against the tooth fairy until he got his log rolled up on from behind. I hope his struggles against VD were just because he was coming back from herpes.
The team also needs a dependable WHOR. Maybe one of the young guys, Higgins or Schilens, could step up and be that ho, or maybe if Walker could get healthy he could be that ho, but someone needs to step up and DO IT.
Other than that this team is pretty shaky, though not as deep as I like to take it. We will find out starting against NORWAY. but I think this team could be pretty god awful.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:53 pm
# MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2007 at 10:26 pm
Kiffin can not hear your guys’ boos, nor does he care that you’re doing it.
Boo on. He’s staying, like it or not. Al Davis is just smart enough to know that he has no other options.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Bad signs:
1. Cable dropped Kiffin’s practice of running plays until the players got them right….Great idea! Wouldn’t want to get something right would we?
2. He’s not big on team rules…hmmmm, yeah, those teams with team rules like NE, Pitt etc really don’t have much success with that team rules thing do they?
Very bad signs…I want to give Cable a chance, as a matter of fact I just told someone I was excited about Cable, but those two policies are not a great sign of things to come…sounds like the inmates will soon be running Al’s asylum. Gannon knows exactly what needs to be done to win…discipline, leadership, professionalism…all those things are lacking in Oakland right now.
Come on Cable, make this work.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Sapp is a sap, he is trying to sell himself to the media market so he thinks he has to jump on the waste Davis wagon. He didn’t have any problem spending Al’s money. No back bone, same old tripe. I hope Cable is cerebral person because that’s what it takes to win in this game. You simply have to out smart your opponent when it comes to coaching and sometimes when it comes to AL.. Long live Al but retire now!
October 1st, 2008 at 8:58 pm
I liked Kiffin bringing in a fresh attitude, and I think that made a difference in terms of effort from the players. But the little things never seemed to occur to him.
You can’t play two-faced games with your owner and the Press. It’s too much of a distraction for a team that desperately needs to shut out the outside world and learn how to play smart football. How about NO COMMENT once in a while for crying out loud.
You don’t criticize your players in public, because once you start, the Press won’t ever let you stop.
You don’t push injured players like McCown onto the field when you have a healthy, experienced reserve that can play just as well.
You shouldn’t sit a healthy player (Bush) for the second half of the season when you have only one consistent RB (Fargas) that has never stayed healthy for more than a few games. Especially when the second half of the season is not gonna get to the playoffs.
You don’t try FG’s beyond 55 yards in a close game unless it’s the last play before time expires. And you certainly don’t blow 30 seconds off the clock before you try a 75 yarder.
And you never leave timeouts unused when you’re about to lose the lead at end of the game. Fumbles can happen, mistakes can happen, you make them snap the ball.
Did I think Kiffin was a bad enough coach on the field to justify firing him? Not until the end of the year if couln’t win 7 games. But if he’s just gonna poison the locker room, you have no choice.
We all know in our hearts that Kiffin was only talking in public the way he was because he thought that would help him get his way behind the scenes. Pissing off Al Davis is never gonna win him over, and Kiffin thinking it would indicates that he would never be a successful coach with this team.
It’s clear Al Davis doesn’t know much at this point about how to put together a successful head coach and front office. He may luck into something with Tom Cable, stranger things have happened.
I will keep hoping for wins, and expecting losses. And I’ll watch the continuing soap opera in the front office. The team is improving, and if playcalling and game management improve, then respectability is close. Then, who knows what may come to pass?
October 1st, 2008 at 9:00 pm
# MaddenRaider Says:
January 31st, 2008 at 10:41 pm
I really doubt Davis is a liberal. A “Humphrey Democrat”, is what the post says; Whatever that is. Hubert Humphrey is a bit before my time.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Bad signs:
1. Cable dropped Kiffin’s practice of running plays until the players got them right….Great idea! Wouldn’t want to get something right would we?
2. He’s not big on team rules…hmmmm, yeah, those teams with team rules like NE, Pitt etc really don’t have much success with that team rules thing do they?
Very bad signs…I want to give Cable head, as a matter of fact I just told someone I was excited about Cable, but those two policies are not a great sign of things to cum…sounds like the inmates will soon be running Al’s assholing. Gannon knows exactly what needs to be done to win…discipline, leadership, professionalism…all those things are lacking in Choakland right now.
Cum on Cable, Davis does.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:05 pm
# MaddenRaider Says:
January 31st, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Great post, Glen, although I’m not sure what Amy Trask really runs. My belief is she’s an adviser, at best.
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# MaddenRaider Says:
January 31st, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Later, Marley.
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# MaddenRaider Says:
February 1st, 2008 at 12:05 am
# Blackholepriest Says:
January 31st, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Amy Trask is much more than an advisor, she is the CEO of the Oakland Raiders. Head lady in charge.
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Please…
October 1st, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Are you kidding me mod…….seriously….you deleted that last post…..fukkin moron!
October 1st, 2008 at 9:06 pm
WTF?
October 1st, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Sapp is a sappy, but sappy tastes good. He is trying to sell himself to the ho nation so he thinks he has to jump off the waste Davis piled a mile high. He didn’t have any problem spending Al’s money. No back bone, same old tripe. I hope Cable is corn hole person because that’s what it takes to win in this game. You simply have to out smart your opponent when it comes to shooting and sometimes when it cums to AL’s SHLong!
October 1st, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Dakota….1-0 bytch!
October 1st, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Did you see the last post b4 they deleted it?
October 1st, 2008 at 9:09 pm
yeah great point dakota sounds like this is a Al Davis call telling him to leave the players alone. When you read that statement it makes no sense at all what the hell is John Candy I mean Tom Cable talking about. thats a great way to earn the teams trust make them not work and not worrying about getting things right only getting out at the time they’re suppose to. Am i the only one that works overtime? I would love to make 5 million a year i would work 15 hours every day with no complaints ever
October 1st, 2008 at 9:10 pm
yeah, I am looking Chaos.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Are you kidding me mod…….seriously….you deleted that last post…..well I guess you were right to do it. It was very childish and I’m nothing but a dumb old dildo anyway.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Did you see the last post b4 they deleted it?
It was my most juvenile work of the year. Kudos to the monitor for a job well done.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:15 pm
lets give cable like 2 games then start bashing I need be
October 1st, 2008 at 9:15 pm
If you want to see the real (mature) side of me, go to kissmyass.com.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:16 pm
lets give Al Davis 0 games and then start bashing him.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Xx52YrR04
Here is a clip of the break…didn’t hear what you are lokking for, but near the end Davis is talking about Kiffin breaking the contract and he said and I quote…”you have to be under the supervision of the general partner and you just can’t do things on your own.” Around 9:15 on the video.
Case fuking close Sheep, from Al Davis’ own mouth…Raider coaches can’t even take a piss without Al’s permission…but he want’s you to believe Art Shell drafted Huff and Kiffin traded Moss, lol.
Come on fools wake up.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:17 pm
He has already cost us one superbowl at least how many more seasons must we deal with his ego.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Hey D.ickhead, when you decide to troll me, you should learn to pay attention to detail…….
October 1st, 2008 at 9:25 pm
We do not have a lot of depth.
Practicing over will take a toll on the players in the games, and we do not have the backups to give them rest.
He did not say practice would end…
“We’ll get in, get the work done right and get off the field so we can go in, teach and learn, and get better that way.”
They will be on the field less and in the film room and position meetings.
Practice less time, but practice faster. Get more done in less time.
Maybe Cable is a film and chalkboard guy.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:25 pm
It will be interesting to see what Cable and Knapp do with the offense. do they stay the course or pull out all the stops?
I think somewhere in between.
Russell’s not ready. what 5-6 starts EVER?
Makes a world of difference with Walker in there. we’ll see if the bye finally heals him.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Put Henderson back IN!!!
October 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Hope you are right K-Rock.
Hey, did you go to church yet to ask for forgiveness for what you said to me earlier?
October 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pm
That last post of mine was weak, but I’m trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
Now if he sends Janiporkski out for a 75 yard FG, all bets are off.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:29 pm
LOL! What did I say?
The HOMO ERECTUS thing? That didn’t hurt your feelings did it?
October 1st, 2008 at 9:30 pm
“With systems of football already in place and a quarter of a season in the books, there will be no dramatic changes. One minor change _ the practice of running plays over and over until they get them right that sometimes extended Raiders practices by 20 minutes or more under Lane Kiffin has been junked” Cable.
Oh yeah that bodes well.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:30 pm
You called me a homo you homo.
lol
October 1st, 2008 at 9:31 pm
# Bob Marley Says:
November 28th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
RaiderDogg
Glad you liked it, knowing Madderaider, he will either disappear for a while and never comment on it or he´ll resort back to one of his other nicknames to make his ”points”.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Cable has the right idea. We will win.
Sapp should stop clowning himself, he makes no sense.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:34 pm
That was for saying the Spurs play like women. I was waiting on a chance to throw one your way.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:37 pm
And yes, I went to church tonight.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Tom
“I’m there, I’ll bring the salsa.”
October 1st, 2008 at 9:38 pm
“Al Davis knows football – it’s just ‘60s and ‘70s football. That’s what it is. He’s thinking that Cliff Branch is outside and (Jim) Plunkett is dropping back and you can throw it 80 yards down the field – deep ball, deep ball, deep ball.”
October 1st, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Sapp can go to hell for all I care. He milked a contract on the downside of his career. Bitched that he couldn’t play in a 4-4, and let lineman dominate him like a convicted pedophile in general population.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:40 pm
K-Rock,
You are like Al, you never forget a slight….and eventually….
whack! You strike like a snake and take your revenge!
b@stard
Hey…how is bald spot’s ankle?
October 1st, 2008 at 9:40 pm
All the radio stations in Tampa used to just dog Sapp all the time.
The dude would refuse to sign autographs for crippled kids. CRIPPLED KIDS, for Pete’s Sake!
I remember him saying, “Just give us 17 points, and we will win.” That was his message to Kiffin before last season.
We all know how that turned out.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:42 pm
That was when he played for Tampa. Not after he left for Oakland.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:42 pm
IDIB,
Funny how we get a lot of guys milking big contracts on the down side of their career here in Oakland isn’t it?
Probably Kiffin’s fault, or Art’s fault according to Big Al.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:43 pm
I don’t pay attention to basketball until football season is over.
I really don’t watch it until the playoffs.
How far from Grand Forks do you live?
October 1st, 2008 at 9:45 pm
I live 705.26 miles from Grand Forks…why do you ask?
October 1st, 2008 at 9:48 pm
We need to cut Curry Coach. Sign Eric Moulds, Tim Dwight or trade a pick for Roy Williams.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:50 pm
# MaddenRaider Says:
October 1st, 2007 at 1:22 pm
So, if Kiffin decides to go with a healthy McNown over Culpepper, I’m behind him. Does anyone want to name a better game time personnel man in this organization than Lane Kiffin? I’m all ears.
I refuse to fault Kiffin until we lose our 9th game. There is no reason for this squad to not go at least 8-8 with the overall talent, if a good game plan is used. So at that point, I would agree that Kiffin may have been the wrong choice. Therefore, you Kiffin doubters have 7 losses to go before you have my ear.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Al Davis does’nt give a rats ass about any one on here……pro Davis or Anti Davis!!
I dont understand why you guys continue to argue over how good./bad/old/senile/competent/Great Al Davis is.
Cant you guys just move on and hope for better times ans support the new coach!!!
If Cable wins 3 or 4 games in a row how many people here will even care what lane kiffin is doing….
Lets just talk Raider football and move forward already!!
Pleeeease!!
October 1st, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Dakota that was the secret sauce in the Raider formula for succses for a long time. It has even worked as recently as the gruden SB team. Guys like Rice, Brown, Romo, Garner and mostly Gannon. No one really talks about BALCO much in relationship to that team but if you look at when all that went down, who was subpoenaed and what happened to the level of play after the fact makes you wonder if the Raider veteran rescue project was not heavily supported by ‘flaxseed oil’.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:52 pm
IDIB,
I am sure that is all just rumors, Al Davis does not encourage cheating. Just win baby!
October 1st, 2008 at 9:53 pm
K-Rock…you have dial-up or something?
October 1st, 2008 at 9:53 pm
700 miles!?
Are you in South Dakota?
I was born at Grand Forks Air Force Hospital. My dad retired from the Air Force when I was 3. Family moved back to TX.
As an adult, I have never seen where I was born.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:54 pm
No. I’m playing NCAA 09 on the 360. Only football that doesn’t make me throw up lately.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:56 pm
# Bob Marley Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
A recap:
1.- The ridiculous report on air by Schefter that ”actions speak louder than words” about how Kiffin was not wearing Raiders gear at the Senior Bowl was quickly rebuffed when it was pointed out Mike Nolan was wearing the same logoless outfit from the brand sponsoring the game. (read about it, pft.com).
2.- The previous report that Kiffin and Ryan were no longer in speaking terms has been rebuffed as well, I´m sure I´m not the only one who saw them not only speaking but laughing togheter about something at the NFLN´s broadcast of the game today.
Will Kiffin be our coach next week??…I hope so and I wish I knew. But I do know that what´s posted above turned out to be speculation.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:57 pm
K-Rock,
Grand Forks is in the NE part of ND and Hot Springs is in the very SW corner of SD…
From what I have seen of Grand Forks, you are not missing much.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:59 pm
# Bob Marley Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Hey Dell…
If this thing turns out true as it´s been reported then everyone should have a problem with Al, no matter how long a fan. Unless there is stuff we don´t know yet, I can´t see a good reason to let him go.
Night all…..
October 1st, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Lane Kiffin is gone, the Cubs lost. Life is really terrible for me right now. I think I will go get butt fuked to make me feel better.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Damn MR…searching the archives tonight?
October 1st, 2008 at 10:02 pm
I like to bend over, grab my ankels, and SQUEEEZZZZ…
October 1st, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Reminds me of when I was in prison.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:04 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
January 27th, 2008 at 11:24 am
i’m really surprised at the depth of support for Kiffen…
the kid did okay… not special… sometimes immature, sometimes not…
the experience he gained this year HCing the Raiders was immeasureable… and will help him in his future endeavors…
the problem with me was he was polishing that resume starting in week one…
my perception of Kiffin was that he was more anxious to prove that he can be a Head Coach in the NFL than he was in proving that he can be the Head Coach of the Raiders for the next decade…
let the boy go where he wants and let’s get someone in here who really wants the position of Head Coach of the Raiders.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:04 pm
# Bob Marley Says:
January 27th, 2008 at 11:36 am
I know it´s yesterday´s news but still…
The whole Kiffin ”attire” deal is meaningless, there is obviously something going on here.
But it does prove that some in the media will say just about anything in regards to the Raiders, even if it doesn´t make any sense and even if the facts are staring them in the eyes (Nolan´s wardobe).
This was not just some obscure blogsite or journalist, it was the NFL Network´s Insider wrongfully citing Lane Kiffin´s wardrobe as some sort of evidence.
Of course, pft.com picked it up and posted it only to have to post and update later where they just put it under the rug and moved on.
But like I said, that´s meaningless in the big picture, we still need to worry about just what the hell is going on and how is this gonna end, just be careful to fall for everything you hear or read.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Dakota……I knew yu wer a awagonfaof tose sorrazz cubies……couldn’t even wager a fukkin case of coronas bytch!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:05 pm
LOL….Fukkin wireless keyboard!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Damn dude, was the supposed to be English?
October 1st, 2008 at 10:06 pm
I said, I knew you were a bandwagon fan of those sorry azz cubbies!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:06 pm
See post 429 bytch!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:06 pm
fuk you Chaos. you piece of sh1t
October 1st, 2008 at 10:07 pm
是性交您失敗者
right back at you!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:07 pm
suk it bytch!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Fuk the NATION Collective
October 1st, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Hey that video ended right when he was supposed to talk to Herrera about introducing the coach he didn’t know……I am calling ESPN tomorrow to get the link…..I want to post that shyt bad for all the non believers that this dude is off the deep end!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:09 pm
I love kiffin. I miss him already.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Hey Dakota…..have you ever met any of these clowns in person?
October 1st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
I wonder how many of them would actually be able to sit down and have a genuine conversation in person?
October 1st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
yes. I dress up like a clown every night, and get whipped by other clowns. its very erotic. its called clown sex, or clown porn.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Which clowns Chaos?
October 1st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Well that would count you out Chaos, we all know you are a fukn ididot.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
yo Dakota r you OK? I mean your guys lost today and all… It’s all good brethren get them next time and all..
baseball sux anyways
October 1st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Can’t hide behind a screen name at that point!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:11 pm
408 WTF You gave in?
October 1st, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Chaos we all know you are a little pusy, and get your as.s kicked all the time. its obvious.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Troll, go to sleep.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:12 pm
lol, you gave in?
No moron, he realized how big of an idiot he was with the “NATION Collective” moron tag.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:12 pm
HAHA…..Yeah I sure do bro……6 time State Championships in Taekwon Do……but I get my ass kicked all of the time!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:13 pm
HAHA……or do you mean on the blog I get my azz kicked?
October 1st, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Okay, I am out of here. Night all…and I am sure you know those posts are not me.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:14 pm
BS Chaos. you don’t have a belt. they don’t let f.ags in martial arts.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:14 pm
# Bob Marley Says:
January 27th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
”Kiffin also wanted to fire about five other assistant coaches whom he had hired. Davis refused to allow that to happen because he did not want to pay off the year all of them had remaining on their contracts.”
Ira Miller, today.
Wait, so now Davis is refusing to fire Kiffin´s own people? and who exactly are those assistants?… what´s next?…Al Davis wanted to hire Monte Kiffin but Lane refused and told him to fire him?
Does anyone else get the idea that since this thing came up, most local writters decided to have a party and Al is playing the pinata role?.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Finally the troll is going to bed. Good night troll.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Yeah Dakota I know…..So will you win a game in the series….or can I take my previous statement of a sweep to the bank?
October 1st, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Chaos
It was all about keeping Kiffin! We lost bro… Its RAIDER NATION on Mines!!! AL is a crazy b@stard but he’s our crazy b@stard.. U Know?? No luv loss tho…
GO RAIDERS!!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Yes, we wont win a game. LA will sweep us, take it to the bank.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:16 pm
408 glad to see you came back to reason. Good for you.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:17 pm
I would love to get back to just football talk………………don’t know if we can at this point!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
# Blackholepriest Says:
July 24th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Boy! reading these post today is like everyne is on a high. It’s the dame high I’ve been on since the day we drafted Russell. He will change everything, offensively and defensively. He gives us a legitimate chamce to win every game. This entire team will play with much more confidence with him at the helm.
Aso knows we can win now and he doesn’t want to be the one to reduce that chance, so he’s here. Russell’s talent makes evryone icluding the coaches more confident in executing whatever assignment they have.
The same as Montana for the 49ers or Elway for the Broncos. Now they know that they can compete…………..period
‘Black Moses’ will lead us to the promised land……trust me.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Yeah I sure do….In my half million dollar house….with my 2 cars…and the wifey who sleeps in the bed next to me….unlike your lonely azz…..yup still live with the parents and walk around with my ballz hangin out the draws…..
October 1st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Chaos
yeah but if we ever get the movement going to buy the Raiders I’m IN… Hell I’ll be back in just to piss off tard boy ya dig
October 1st, 2008 at 10:21 pm
LOL……You know the tyrant did say that anyone is capable of owning a minority share….it was somewhere in the transcripts……….I also heard that Godell is supposed to talk to him soon about some things….I am sure he wanted to hear Kiffin out first….
October 1st, 2008 at 10:21 pm
# dick v Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 1:03 am
The Broncos can not stop the run, and they have got their hopes on the likes of Dwayne Robertson, and Koudividas. They simply do not have the talent. That O line they always have is simply not there any more. Loosing Nalen and Lepsis is too much for any team. Clady may be a stud, but he is a rookie, and he will struggle. Jay cutler is the 1 qb that may be dumb enough to challenge the secondary. The Raiders are flat out better than this team, and the hate runs deep to not let off. They will be swept. I am more worried about kc in week 2 then any Denver game.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:22 pm
MaddenRaider Says:
October 1st, 2007 at 1:38 pm
I have no case to make for McCown, other than that Kiffin is the only person in this organization I trust to lead this team.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Dude this guy is just going through the archives and reposting…….Must either be a mod or someone with a lot of time on their hands…..
October 1st, 2008 at 10:22 pm
# Johnny Rebel Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 5:51 am
Its fun to watch Davis put all the people in place to do what he can’t do and hasn’t been able to do for a long time now, run the franchise from his hip pocket, now Hackett will scout upcoming opponents as Davis once did long, long ago. Donkeys are first on the list.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:23 pm
# SilverNblack666 Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 8:15 am
I think the next post should be…Why did the media lie to us so much during the offseason.
Why isn’t Jamarcuss 300 pounds, why is Kiffin still coaching and why did big name free agents sign with the Raiders in the offseason.
I think all you rumor mongering local sports writers, should have to explain why you lied to us the last few months about every aspect of our team. Pathetic losers!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Hey oooooooooooooooooooooooldie………Try to get one of my good ones on there too……I am sure there are at least one or two depending on who you talk to!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:24 pm
# Blackholepriest Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 9:31 am
All this bashing the media is going piss COW off you guy’s. He insist that what they have to say is accurate. And it’s the Raiders fault that they have to report such negativity.
Ths is why I was saying what I was saying prior to camp and was vilified by Dakota and others for pretending that everything was “perfect in Raiderland”.
Obviously nothing is perfect but I felt we were a lot closer than what fans were saying. As Fargas said “we know we have a lot of talent” now we just have to put it all together. That’s all I was trying to say.
This supposed stripping of Kiffin’s powers was all crap. He has been given as much power as most coaches in this league along with the talent that most caches DON”T have. When Russell gets his game on, this could be one of the most lethal offenses in the game.
And all the hue and cry about the defense as I have said many times is much ado about nothing. This defense has been improved talent wise. Nolw they just need to execute and make plays when those plays are there to be made.
You mark my words Tommy Kelly once fully healthy will be worth the money. I have said that B4 he was injured I thought he was playing at a very high level and I think you’ll see what I meant.
With our ability to score I’m not nearly as worried about this defense. We need to score early and late in games to win. That’s how you become a complete team. We have the ability to do that now. Instead of praying the defense holds to win we can just attack and give the defense points to work with. That’s called closing games out. This team by years end should be a threat to win beat anyone anywhere………….period.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:24 pm
I will be at the Carolina game too.
I will be the 6′4 360lb guy with a beard and tattoos all over my head, face, and arms.
When you see me, don’t bother talking, just punch me right in the face.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Post one of my old comments….I might have been crazy in July too.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Anyways….408 and everyone else worth a shyt….I’m out…….I am gonna try harder tomorrow not to antagonize people on here so we can try to get back to being Raider Fans again…..kinda tired of the bullshyt!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:25 pm
fukin missed 408 again but I got some more songs on my playlist..
oh yeah I put hand on the pump 4 Chaos!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:25 pm
K—If you are serious….lets pound a few brews…….
October 1st, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Ill be in the PADS with the executioner mask……
October 1st, 2008 at 10:27 pm
HAHA….CYPRESS……
October 1st, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2008 at 11:29 am
Oh, John Herrera said it is not true so we can take his word for it…right…Kiffin is as good as gone.
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Right as usual.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Alright 408….Ill hit you guys up tomorrow.
Raiders!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Bob…look what I found!
http://straightcashhomey.net/post/20310438/eddie-jones-los-angeles-lakers-you-probably
October 1st, 2008 at 10:30 pm
# MR Says:
August 31st, 2008 at 11:08 am
I’m a boner biting loser who has no friends.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:30 pm
I was just joking man, but you can still punch the big guy in the face if you see him. LOL!
I was going to the New Orleans game. Have my hotel reserved and dinner reservations at NOLA.
But my wife says we have to finish paying our taxes!
Damn IRS!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:33 pm
# The Real Oakglenn Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
In fact, Huff, when I contact Jerry today I’m going to tell him about you as well as Mo Ron. I’m taking legal action against all of you. I’m sick of you guys ruining my blog.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:34 pm
# MR Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
My breakout player, Marley?
I’ve got to go with Kiffin. He’ll be breaking out of here by week 4, with Al’s money.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Night Chaos!!!
1 NATION
October 1st, 2008 at 10:38 pm
# SilverNblack666 Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
But I thought Kiffin was going to be fired?
You guys (local sports writers) have been telling me that since February.
What the HELL happened.
Oh yeah I know…you lied to us!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:40 pm
# SilverNblack666 Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
# SilverNblack666 Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
All 79 players reported to camp and on time.
What does that say about the supposed turmoil there is in the organization.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:41 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
i think we’re gonna win a lot of games…
and what’s really special is that whatever Jam or McFadden does will just be bonus stuff…
October 1st, 2008 at 10:43 pm
# Blackholepriest Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Look out Boys! we are on our way and the sky is the limit with this kind of a talent slnging the ball all over the field. Few teams have the ability to defend us.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Dakota Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Okay,
We really need some damage control here. If Kiffin is still going to be the Head Coach we need some verification of that other than a John Herrera statement.
Yeah, I know, why should the Raiders respond to a non-story or media BS? I’ll tell you why, because Lance Briggs, Dansby, Haynesworth, Faneca, Starks and every other free agent target and every Raider player watches ESPN. They don’t come to this blog to get the truth from Jerry, they rely on ESPN. So if this stuff is not true and Kiffin will be our coach next year, we need to see Al Davis and Lane Kiffin at a press conference holding hands and singing kumbaya. If not, most of those free agents and the agents of every college player coming into the draft will have no idea what the heck is going on in Oakland. We need a display of solidarity so that we do not ruin the little bit of respect Kiffin brought us in 07′.
Can’t the Raiders see that? Can’t the AD sheep see that? This story will not die until we hear from the Godfather. If they fail to address the issue it will grow into a monster that will break down the players and the Raider organization in 08′. Frankly, AD can’t afford to ruin any more years due to his ego.
Since they have displayed the ability to try and squelch an issue (see the Rob Ryan public announcement) they need to do so for Lane Kiffin. If they fail to do so in the next couple of days things are going to get worse and worse. The speculation will grow and no quality player, coach or executive will want to touch our organization with a ten foot pole.
PS: Kiffin is an idiot (or trying to get out) if he really tried to fire RR without consulting Big Al. Big Al, give your next head coach the power to hire and fire his assistants.
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Damn, I was spot on wasn’t I?
October 1st, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Really. Really. Another coach fired from Oak town. Well, he lasted longer than 1 season, I owe my bro 20 bucks. Despite what anyone thinks, Al Davis is like baseballs Mr. Comiskey…once you get rid of the head honcho, the team will start winning. Until then, save your money and time and root for Al’s death
October 1st, 2008 at 10:49 pm
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October 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 pm
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October 1st, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Dakota Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Lane is out; it’s just a matter of time. Divorces sometimes drag on and on, but we might as well prepare for the aftermath. Even if there is only a scintilla of truth to these rumors the damage has been done and the relationship is likely irreparably damaged.
If Lane was staying these rumors would have been addressed via a press conference ala Rob Ryan’s press conference.
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Damn, Dakota is still right!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:52 pm
SFC Gonzalez
go back to castro you homo
October 1st, 2008 at 10:53 pm
# MaddenRaider Says:
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:02 pm
This is not the best time to be a Charger fan.
They’re in a worse spot than we were in at this point in 2003. Coming off of a big year, their coach is gone, it could only get worse for them if Shottenheimer got hired with the Raiders as some kind of special assistant to the entire staff. It’s understandable they’re in hiding.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Dakota Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 8:08 am
Here is what Al Davis looks for in a coach: Loyalty, devotion, submission, obedience, conformity, capitulation, acquiescence, obsequiousness, toadying, and sycophancy = Rob Ryan and losing.
Here is what Al Davis should look for in a coach: Leadership, direction, command, authority, weight (and not Rob Ryan’s kind of weight), guidance, management, organization = Lane Kiffin? = winning (not sure yet) = competitiveness (certainly).
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I am good!
October 1st, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Sorry, but I will not believe that this story is dead until I see a press conference where Al and Kiffin kiss and make up. Until then these rumors will not die, and our misery will continue.
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the misery lasted many many months didn’t it?
October 1st, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Can I get some LMN quotes while your @ it
October 1st, 2008 at 11:07 pm
408 Raider, what are you (using the term loosely) talking about? castro? what…if you are referring to AL as Castro…then maybe you might be making sense.
October 1st, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
MEMO
TO: Raider Nation
DATE: January 25, 2008
SUBJECT: Resignation
FROM: Al Davis
This will confirm my resignation as Dictator of the Oakland Raiders.
I have accepted a position as Executive Director of a reaping operation at a growing retribution company stationed in Hell. I am looking forward to my new position and the challenges that await me.
My last day of work will be April 28, 2008, which should allow me plenty of time to finish my ongoing push to destroy the Raiders by controlling one last draft. I will turn over the position to my replacement, Carol Davis. Please feel free to contact me at any time should you have any questions regarding my past work. I hope that the transition will go smoothly for everyone.
My experience with the Raiders has been very rewarding. I appreciate having had the opportunity to run the franchise that I took to such heights directly into the ground. I wish the Raider Nation and the NFL continued success.
Yours Truly,
Al Davis
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Funny as usual…
October 1st, 2008 at 11:14 pm
SFC
MY bad thought you were a whiner fan..
no disrespect and spenca 4 the homo blast…
October 1st, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
March 31st, 2008 at 10:00 am
I give up!! you DMC freaks will comeup with any old weak ass arguement for the skinny HB.
I got better things to do, adios
———-
haha
October 1st, 2008 at 11:24 pm
to all you mud-whistles that critize kiffin, how come there hasn’t been one-NOT ONE-player who has had ill words about the man. should these guys get fired too?? this whole situation is a gigantic joke. i love the raiders and always will, but i hope kiffin catches on with KC or Denver. we know how this story will end. great young coach gets fired and has success with someone else.
if al davis is such a genius, what in the hell makes him think this is going to turn out any different?? like i’ve said: al davis is insane.
ps…obviously i’m a big fan of mr. rich gannon. why would rich gannon have any bad things to say about the raiders?? why would he lie?? after all, he was arguably the NFL’s best for 4-5 years when he wore silver and black. maybe, just maybe, al davis has no idea what he is doing, and things in oakland are rotten. i’ll take gannon’s word over big al’s 100 times out of a 100. gannon, btw, didn’t have ANY harsh things to say about kiffin.
uncle richy says there’s something wrong…there must be something wrong.
October 1st, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Ghlston is far from suspect against the run anyone with half a brain would never project a DE that high if he were weak against the run. Sorry but that doesn’t fly. That kid has tremenduos potential as an every down DE/OLB and anyone that doesn’t think so would never draft him in the first round.
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Is Gholston even starting? lol…this is fun.
October 1st, 2008 at 11:32 pm
sapp also said that al davis runs the defense and that al is the one that doesnt let ryan do his thing( blitz, put 8 in the box)
October 1st, 2008 at 11:35 pm
ohh yea …. ” hows your mother?”
October 1st, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Also I’ve never mentioned this before but there is something about Mr. Davis that only those that are very close to him or who have worked for him in the personnel dept. know that makes me believe that it’s very slim that he really like DMC as much as the press keeps professing he does. DMC has the speed he covets but he has a fatal flaw that Mr. Davis hates something coaching can’t change. And that’s what makes me so adamant as to my belief that I don’t think he’s nearly as crazy about DMC as one might think.
Blackholepriest Says:
March 30th, 2008 at 12:28 am
K-rock your close, but it’s a little lower than the thigh. It has to do with the a players base and launch ability. He feels it helps him in his explosivenees, balance, power and overall competitive strength.
DMC has narrow calfs, or thin pins in scouts vernacular
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Dakota Says:
March 30th, 2008 at 12:32 am
We can always get McDadden some calf implants before the draft.
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Oh sheeet, that is some good stuff…memories
October 1st, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Dakota Says:
March 30th, 2008 at 1:06 am
Easy E,
As long as Rob f@#king Ryan is DC, it will not matter how many 1st round picks and free agents we add to the defense, we will suck. Might as well draft McFadden so we do not allow Ryan to ruin another high draft pick.
Al, please, FIRE RR!
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Money comment right there…
October 1st, 2008 at 11:50 pm
That was fun! night
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:22 am
I don’t have the time or the patience to sort through all of the crap that is allowed to continue on this blog. It is absolutely insane and so I have decided to just read your posts and get out. I’m sure that I will feel better about myself and accomplish a lot more!!!!!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:49 am
# Oakglenn Says:
July 26th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Denver is in serious trouble. The team is in disarray, Shanarat drafted a bunch of guys with questionable commitments to the game, guys like we had here for years.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:49 am
# Johnny Rebel Says:
July 26th, 2008 at 10:20 am
After last years 34-20 dismantling, the Monday Night opener could be 34-14 or worse the way the Broncos look right now.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:50 am
# Johnny Rebel Says:
July 26th, 2008 at 10:21 am
The cellar days are gone.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:51 am
Florida Pete Says:
July 26th, 2008 at 10:24 am
i bet shamarat is gone after this season…
and that team does look like the raiders of 2 and 3 years ago…
except maybe worse, because instead of cleaning up their salary cap mess, they’ve made it worse…
i doubt denver gets more than 6 wins this year…
as for Kiff… he’ll be a nominee for Coach of the Year… and the Raiders will make the playoffs…
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:51 am
# Johnny Rebel Says:
July 26th, 2008 at 10:35 am
When talented players come together and get on a roll they hard to stop. Ask any Tennessee fan about Russell throwing that winning touchdown pass in front of 110,000+ screaming fans for the win, in the final seconds in Knoxville.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:53 am
# no more infield Says:
July 26th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
People like MR buy into everything the press says about us. Has anyone seen the letter? We are not generally liked by the sports media in case you haven’t noticed. The still spek about the number of trouble makers on the team even though there has not been on raider arrested from this present team. They were talking about Jano’s incident almost five years ago as an example. Even though there are players getting arrested everyday in the NFL from almost every team in the league they talk about Jano! The guy’s been maried and sober for four years!
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:54 am
# Johnny Rebel Says:
July 26th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
MR, I am not sure why when you mention the Raiders you use the term “we” or “we’re”, as if you are considered a Raiders fan by anybody in here. Your riding the fence and scared of the fact they are going to be good and all your long winded posts mean nothing. Don’t worry about things you can’t control. The bus has already left and you will never be on it, bye bye now bye bye
. Raiders 34 Denver 14.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:55 am
# Oakglenn Says:
July 26th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
The offensive line CLEARLY IMPROVED over the course of the season. They gave up like NO sacks over a few weeks if I remember right, and the running lanes really improved. All you can ask for at this point is steady improvement from the Oline and we got that last year.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:56 am
# Florida Pete Says:
July 26th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
we’re going to be the no 1 rushing team in the NFL this year with or without McDaddy…
relax…
illigitemi non carborundum…
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:01 am
JediRaider Says:
July 27th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Hey MR,
We’ve got Denver (Home), KC, Buffalo, and San Diego (at home) in our first 4. That’s a good schedule to go 4-0
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:04 am
Blackholepriest Says:
July 27th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Ahhsheeit, brotha we are light years ahead of last year. I think we have a legit HC now. One that has real ability to be special, a running game that’s in the stratus sphere. A secondary that’s the best B4 we even touch the field. An offense that has confidence. A defense anxious to prove themselves.
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:07 am
# SilverNblack666 Says:
July 28th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
“Myself and Brad Roll sat down and put a menu together with the chefs here”
This is one damn good coach and pays attention to the smallest details.
It doesn’t sound like a guy who was given as letter of resignation or is on his way out of Oakland.
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:38 am
RICH GANNON for GM!
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:17 am
Copenhagen:
Maybe you’re joking but-
Never really thought of Rich Gannon for GM but that might be an idea that would work.
That guy was a pretty good general on the field-Mr hustle!
In his press conference Al Davis-for the first time that I know of-indicated that he wants to hire “an executive”-whatever that means.
Why not a GM, then Al can do the Jerry Jones thing. He’d have someone running the show but Al would still be the boss.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:39 am
I would rather see Rich Gannon as our head coach.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:23 am
Rich Gannon is a fighter and bad ass and demands nothing less than perfection. We need a guy who demands perfection.
But most of all we need somebody who can work with Al. And Gannon would never be able to do that. Nobody can!
October 2nd, 2008 at 5:20 am
I don’t pay attention to basketball or football people like me are more into the ballet.
I really don’t watch it, because it interferes with my way of life.
How far from Grand Forks do you live? I have a man crush on you and I’m dying to meet you
October 2nd, 2008 at 5:36 am
Doodz, Traviz Henry juzt got buzted for coke. I vote that we give him an offer zheet to zign zo he can play for uz after he getz out!
October 2nd, 2008 at 6:12 am
I wonder what Jamarcus thinks since he found out Kiff’s true feelings. Kiff probably just lied to him like he lied to the press and to the fans.
October 2nd, 2008 at 6:24 am
Kiffin started to talk about the letter Al showed everyone and tried to insinuate that just because the letter was printed on paper and throw up on the projector, he implied it did not exist. But his demeanor sure did change in his interviews the last few months like he indeed did read what Al read to us and heard alot more way before the Buffalo game. He can’t squirm his way out of this one. Now we hear he was scheduled to have a press conference the day Davis did so he had to know he was close to being fired if he ran his mouth or called odd plays during the games. He got beat to the punch again by Davis just like Patrino. Kiffin can look in the mirror to find the real problem in all this.
October 2nd, 2008 at 6:37 am
What happened to Jason Jones’ article?
October 2nd, 2008 at 6:51 am
K-rock..
he is on paternity leave..
October 2nd, 2008 at 6:55 am
# Copenhagen_Fan Says:
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:23 am
Rich Gannon is a fighter and bad ass and demands nothing less than perfection. We need a guy who demands perfection.
But most of all we need somebody who can work with Al. And Gannon would never be able to do that. Nobody can!
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problem is Al doesn’t want perfection, he just want his way.. nothing more.. Al deosn’t care about winning, he hasn’t the last 5 years, he just want the last word.. now he has it.. again..
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:00 am
If it were not for Davis giving Gannon a chance he would be a nobody today. Gannon still has not answered why he threw five interceptions in the Superbowl. How come he was not man enough to keep an eye on Robbins instead of whining to the media about players that like to party too much. Gannon gets into deeper and deeper trouble the more he runs his mouth, just like Kiffin.
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:03 am
hahaha.. why didn’t al keep an eye on robbins?? so now gannon is a bad guy? HAh he’ the last hero of this franchise..
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:04 am
Hey Rich, how about the Raven playoff game where you looked like you took a shot of morphine at halftime and ran the offense in the second half like you were in a two day drunken stooper? You never were a team player but thats another story.
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:06 am
yeah he got the morphine alright, because Tone siragusa thrashed his arm.. thats why.. you are very selective huh?
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:07 am
Gannon is a punk for running his mouth just like Kiffin and then they hide from the tough questions. He was no hero of mine. The Raider fans I know would alwasy expect him to collaspe at some point either by injury or his play, he hated to get hit and it showed time and time again.
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:08 am
sheeps..
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:09 am
Your obviously too young to compare Gannon to a real quarterback like Plunkett so that would explain why he is your hero LMN.
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:09 am
…….In as much as I’m impressed , thus far, with JR’s learning curve ,(most noteably the lack of interceptions), I’m becoming increasingly concerned that he’s not accurate enough, and I fear that this ,(like speed), may not be teachable…Although Miller slipped and fell down on that crucial play, it appears that the pass was overthrown anyway. Bottom line…JR must start making big plays when it counts. I recall that Brady, Montana, and other successfull QB’s demonstrated this ability rather quickly…..Although, I’m concerned that the Cable guy apparently distains repetition, perhaps the livelier tempo might be conducive to better conditioning…speaking of which, Cable isn’t setting a good example for his players with his John Candyesque luggage. I remember many years ago , as I was watching an afternoon game with the Dodgers playing the Giants, that Tommy Lasorda looked like he had lost weight… Until I realized that I had just spent the previous three hours watching Ray Malavasi grazing along the sidelines…
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:10 am
Accuracy is a timing issue with Russell, its not his arm.
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:10 am
okay, then lets eliminate all the gannon years.. you do know that our success rate will go below cardinals..
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:12 am
Why are we still talking about Kiffin? He’s gone, get over it.
Tom Cable is the man now so get on board or shut up and get outta here!
The Raiders have enough critics, we don’t need wayward fans criticizing the team. How does that help us get better?
The glass is half full. If yours is half empty it’s because you dumped the other half of the glass on your pants to make it look like you pee’d yourself.
boo whoo: how bout a back rub baby?
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:13 am
Gannon was no Elway, he was fortunate to have very good offensive squad around him that really did not hit its stride till Garner and Rice arrived. If they had just stuck with Brown he would have cost them a couple of games with all the dropped passes.
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:13 am
he isnt my hero, but he is one of the last raider heroes..
but no reason to keep this going on, you want nixon in the white house, us playing old fashion football, and I just hope our franchise realize the millennium has changed..
you side won.. raiders loss..
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:14 am
…..Gannon WAS accurate. Too bad he choked …(tanked).. in the Super Bowl…unlike Plunkett and Stabler…
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:14 am
SLD..
yeah lets just forget all the MVP Gannon won..
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:16 am
ENGLAND RAIDER.. regarding post 525..
it will never happen, Al can’t share the spot light, if we get a GM or a ‘local’ at he calls it, it will purely be a puppet..
I don’t like Jerry Jones, but I wish Al could be a bit like he has the last few years..
a coach needs power, and a GM needs power to be effective, if all power is located at Al’s office.. it doesn’t matter who we will get in.. or what they do when they arrive.. no reason to keep pouring the soup, when the bowl is broken..
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:17 am
how many of you guys were mad that Dominic Rhodes, Chris Carr, Stuart Schweigert & Barry Sims ran their mouths when they got sent packing? I know I was.
Rich Gannon & Warren Sapp were good football players for the Raiders. They need to show some class and appreciation for the team that paid them well and treated them well for years. You guys really think these guys know anything about running a franchise? no way!
Take example guys like Tim Brown, Rod Woodson, John Madden & Jon Ritchie. that’s class
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:20 am
LMN they look really close to me to being respectable. They have played teams with a combined record of 10-6 where say the Titans are 4-0 but the teams they played are 3-12.
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:24 am
“Take example guys like Tim Brown, Rod Woodson, John Madden & Jon Ritchie. that’s class”
I predict, that roughly a year after al is gone, they all start running their mouth too..
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:27 am
# Sith Lord Davis Says:
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:20 am
LMN they look really close to me to being respectable. They have played teams with a combined record of 10-6 where say the Titans are 4-0 but the teams they played are 3-12.
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yeah and the guy responsible is now gone, at least the process will continue because we know Cable will continue the work started..
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:35 am
Wrong, these guys responsible are still there, they look better inspite of Kiffin, not because of him. They could be 3-1 with Knapp calling the plays.
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:38 am
It will be interesting to see how the play calling will change with Knapp in there. Getting back to running the ball and controlling the clock would help out. The next game will tell us the direction we’re headed, either back to the future or a step in the right direction.
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:50 am
well it won’t change much, I saw how Knapp called plays in Atlanta..
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:53 am
Please stop mentioning class when you talk about this organization. You can make any other statments of hope that you would like. Feel free to dream and say they will go the rest of the year undefeated and all of this other Disney Magic like stuff but don’t talk about who has class and who does not in this organization. This is a classless organization from the top down.
I think the new players are blending in well but you can tell the whole team is scared to give their true opinions. The reasons guys let it all out when they leave is because they fill so controled while they are there. The pattern says it all, they suck!!!!
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:56 am
we also need our RB to get healthy and our wr to start getting open.With kiffin gone i hope walker will start playing
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:56 am
So anybody who’s not critical of Al Davis has class and all of the guys who call him on his crazy BS are losers?
Al Davis is the loser…look at his record since Gruden was shown the door.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:00 am
Sith Lord Davis how do you know that things will be better with Knapp calling the plays?
Did you see Micheal Vick in ATL?? He was a super star but only ran and threw to the TE.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:01 am
Al knows he made a mistake when he let Gruden go just by the look on his face when it was brought up in the news conf
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:02 am
R8…yeah Al looked like he was about to cough up a furball when Gruden was mentioned…
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:04 am
……..Although Al Davis is a Shakespearian tragedy, you gotta admit it’s great theatre….
Gruden was able to achieve 8-8 with less talent than this team has. Let’s see how Cable does…
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:08 am
I think the trouble with al is he whats to win so bad all the time that he does not let a system take hold
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:08 am
Post# 558 – Well said.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:09 am
…….Someone should tell Cable to mix in a salad once in a while- or he might end up as Candy did…….hey…..what if Cable…heaven forbid….had a massive heart attack on the sideline….would we, perish the thought, see A.D. on the sideline ? THAT would be more interesting than watching tonights’ televised execution of Sarah Palin……..
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:11 am
On Gannon: I think the man loves the organization and is pained by what´s been going on the last 5 years. That´s why he gives his opinion on whats not working and how to fix it. On Sapp: loudmouth that will be unemployed in 2 years…I don’t think the playcalling will change that much. I hope Jamarcus keeps improving, and Knapp is going to have to take care of him, the worst thing that could happen is JR loosing confidence ala Alex & Akili Smith.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:14 am
Morning Nation?
Is the sky still falling?
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:18 am
no sky falling today, it’s a neeeewwww mornin’…all we can do now is move forward. Al’s still a frickin jerk today tho, as always.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:19 am
Here’s where it went wrong:
kiffin din’t have the personality to coach here, brash and unbending, conservative whiner. You don’t put your company and boss on blast and expect to keep your job-period. He knew this and wanted out. He wanted out last december(ark). He also did not have faith in his team or QB, he played to not lose, in the NFL you stomp on the guys neck or you lose. Go down swinging or go home, he’s home now. He did however have us moving in the right direction.
Al Davis is the other half. He let it go on for to long. Pride got the best of him, didn’t want to have to have this press confrence again. He wanted the PC at the end of the year where he gets to state his and the Raider greatness. How great he was for hiring kiff and all the big free agants. At least he took resposibility for all the bad coaching hires. To bad he didn’t take responsibility for the other blunders by him.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:20 am
How can people get on here and criticize Gannon like that? The guy was tough and, if anything, was a team player. He demanded a lot from his teammates. The Ravens game, he got ruined by a Siragusa swan dive (with no penalty I might add). Come on, man! Did you forget that?
Not tough? The guy was known for avoiding the rush, keeping plays alive, and diving head first when needed.
Injury prone? Give me a break. You’re revealing your ignorance.
Someone mentioned that Tim Brown has class. Well he’s been critical of this organization too. So is he now off your list of people with class? What a joke!
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:21 am
wonder if Seabass will be practicing 70-yarders today, lol!
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:21 am
Copen
you notice difference in play calling last game (partly) it’s cause kiff and knapp shared, can you guess who called second half and 4th quarter. thats why it will be different with knapp calling
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:23 am
ten percent and a cach in two days….
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:24 am
I liked Gannon for how hard he played; however didn’t like seein him scream in Gruden’s face on the sidelines, on national TV…Gruden I’m sure didn’t like it either…a player yelling down the head coach, not cool in my book.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:26 am
Post 574 – there wasn’t much difference between the 2nd half and 1st half in play calling. We were ruined on 2 pass plays – don’t you remember? The fumble by Russell and the INT off of McFadden’s hand.
Those 2 plays ruined us and they were both pass plays. Sh1t happens. If not for those plays, we win. End of story.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:27 am
Those of you who want the offense to open up, I have some questions…. Who will pass protect for this? Who will catch the passes? We had what you are asking for not as far back as you think. It was called Art Shell 2 years ago.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:29 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:17 am
how many of you guys were mad that Dominic Rhodes, Chris Carr, Stuart Schweigert & Barry Sims ran their mouths when they got sent packing? I know I was.
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I appreciate their candor & it confirmed my worst fear that Al is destroying the team.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:29 am
408….I have liberated myself as well…….
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:31 am
Hopefully a new day brings new discussions……
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:31 am
we win if not for a holding on a touch down and if miller doesnt slip on the break
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:33 am
correct me if I’m wrong but did we not see Greg Knapp calling plays in the San Diego game.
that was his game.
and I thought that the play calling was a little different. we came out with alot of passes and made some big plays, Jmac only had a few missed passes. one that was hugh.
we lost that game because of special teams gave up a big run back, defense gave up the hugh run to LT, but by that time the game was over.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:34 am
Post 582 – that’s true too. Dam, I wish Miller didn’t slip. I hate holding calls. They shouldn’t call it unless it’s obvious. Did you see the holding? I didn’t get a good look.
I remember a ref being interviewed that once said “if we wanted to, we could call holding on every play”
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:34 am
Davis is a penny pinching egotist.
He didn’t want to fire Kiffin before the season, because he would owe Kif the entire amount AND would need to hire a real coach at real pay during that time to keep the fans happy and paying.
So he has his attorney watch for ‘transgressions.’ That way, in court later, it’ll be he said she said and they can settle somewhere in between.
Davis wont pay have to pay the full amount.
And he isn’t paying for a decent coach either. Probably gave Cable at a 20 percent bump if that.
Just Make money baby!
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:36 am
We need a good mix of well timed runs and passes. I think they would have mixed in a little more runs last week if Fargas or McFadden were healthy. I though Bush was running too tentatively. He was holding on to that ball like it was his baby and running too upright.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:37 am
re post 555;quit drinking the koolaide and take a reality pill.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:37 am
Dickota Says:
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:33 am
correct me if I’m wrong but did we not see Greg Knapp calling plays in the San Diego game.
that was his game.
and I thought that the play calling was a little different. we came out with alot of passes and made some big plays, Jmac only had a few missed passes. one that was hugh.
we lost that game because of special teams gave up a big run back, defense gave up the hugh run to LT, but by that time the game was over.
I said the same thing during the game and people said no way Kiffin is calling plays……
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:40 am
Killa it wasnt that bad he spun him and fell on him i think the guy slipped and they both went down like you said you could call holding on every play i think it was a chicken $h-t call
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:43 am
Killa#586 we also need to move J-ROCK out of the pocket to give him more time
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:43 am
morning Chaos… yeah we lost I want to believe we can salvage the season but my gut says were about to start yet another downward spiral…. lets hope Im wrong!
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:46 am
Post 591. True. He needs to run more decisively too. I remember a 3rd and short play last week where he ran out of the pocket but instead of just running for it (there was some open field), he threw and missed.
But yeah, I’m not sure what happened to the roll outs.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:47 am
Al Davis got me with the hypno-beam the other day but its starting to wear off.. so now I’m like WTF did he do to my beloved team!
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:49 am
The Poole article today was on target although I think Mr Davis has been taking input from people he trusts long before Jon Gruden.
The palace intrigue and paranoia that has surrounded the Raiders since the mid 60’s is not the problem.
Poor drafts are the problem. Perhaps you believe Davis reads The Sporting News and drafts from that.
I do not. There are alot of people in the process who have messed this up.
None of us fans will know the details but the process needs to improve.
Al knows he is the top guy and he has accepted responsibility for poor results. Other people in the organization need to do the same.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:51 am
……….Sarah Palin was right……..humans do indeed walk with dinosaurs at the Raiders HQ….
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:52 am
Post 594. He got a few folks with that beam. It’s funny – the media asks “why did he come out and say all those things”. I’ll tell you why – he realized that a lot of fans like you and I would be pissed about firing Kiffin mid-season like that. Davis keeps up with media and I’m sure he knew there was a lot of support for little Kiff. He was trying to win us all over. He can fool the ignorant real easy – some fans are like sheep, what can I say. But a lot of us saw right through the BS.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:53 am
Man! im so tired of the circus. i wears on me big time.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:57 am
I think what it is, people want to understand both sides of the story. Most intellegent people can read through lying and truth, and he made a hell of a case against Kiff. The problem is that you can never tell who is lying and who is truthful unless they are debating every point face to face. Typically that is when individuals can not hide behind a lie.
The problem with the presser the other day, is that there were too many facts thrown out there for people to soak up. It almost seemed like he had that hypno-beam pointed on everyone to be the one to take higher ground with supposed facts rather then here say like Kiffin was giving.
Here is the part that sucks, Kiffin worked for him, and could not be 100% honest. I think the dude had ballz and was right in standing up to the tyrant for the better of the team……but he could not kiss and tell…because he would have immediately sealed his fate. Moving forward, we will never know the entire truth until the arbitration is ruled on by the NFL and Kiff writes a book, unless as part of the arbitration ruling, there could be a clause that Kiffin needs to keep quiet and not ruin the old man otherwise face a lawsuit.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 am
He isgoing to get his money….there is no denying that, because the unions and the league is set up to deal with situations like this now a days…….and I can tell you that Davis does not want to take on the Coaches Union……he will not win that battle…so they will settle out of court by ruling of the nfl commissioner and lane will go silently into the night to coach elsewhere……….AND COME BACK TO HAUNT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:03 am
Regarding Sapp’s comments:
Does the visiting owners box have a phone connection to his team’s sideline? If that is the case do you think other owners call plays?
What a bunch of BS.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:05 am
Copenhagen_Fan Says:
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:00 am
Sith Lord Davis how do you know that things will be better with Knapp calling the plays?
Did you see Micheal Vick in ATL?? He was a super star but only ran and threw to the TE.
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If all we do is run and throw to our TE we will be better off than just running like we have been. We have the best TE in the league next to J. Witten in my opinion. Like Cable said, lets get the ball into the hands of our playmakers (McFadden, Bush, and Miller and a bit of Higgins are the only ones to show up so far) and we can win some games. Get Curry off the field (sorry bro, i love ya but…), get Shillens some touches and we’ll see some points…
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:07 am
Did all of you just start following the Raiders ? I guess this is the first time you heard Al Davis owns the team. Calling out Al Davis doesn’t win games. So do yourself a favor and don’t waste your time. Al will do what he feels is best for his team and that will never change.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:08 am
LOL chaos big AL would rather spend the money in court than give Kiffin a dime!
Best of luck Kiffin Thanks for trying to restore my beloved RAIDERS swagger….
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:11 am
He’ll get his money alright. That “with cause” BS won’t stand up.
I think we need to take a step back before saying that “too many facts” were thrown out by Davis. How do we know any of the BS is true?
For instance, I don’t believe for a second that Kiff wanted Walker. Not for a single friggin second!!! That deal had Davis written all over it and he tried to blame Kiff.
Davis also made it out like Kiff had control of what calls would be made on Def. Bullsh1t!! Gruden also said that Davis was very involved and controlling of the defensive schemes. Would both Gruden and Kiff lie?
He blamed Kiff for trading Moss. All deals go through Davis. He can blame himself if he didn’t like that deal. He also mentioned Collins. He’s delusional to imply that Moss and Collins could have had 20 TDs together here in Oakland. He’s crazy. Moss wanted out – he plays when he “wants to play”.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:13 am
B-#602 with kiff gone i hope walker will find himself and start making plays
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:16 am
Walker is not our best reciever bud. Regardless of what he did in 2004. Higgins and Shillens are our only hope in that WR corps. I’d like to see Miller lined up outside at times too, but I’m not calling the plays…
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:18 am
#605…..All I was making mention to the “supposed facts” was that he was trying to make everyone think they were facts because he had them written down. Someone who makes a prefessional showing or case will always seem right. Come on the pomp and circumstance behind the presser was rediculous. Projector, all of the media, handouts…fuk you would think he tyrant had a circus coming to town…….oh wait, he is the circus!
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:19 am
I didn’t believe everything he said….not for a minute……..but I do have to say that he had his people do a good job of documenting everything…….
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:19 am
there is a possibility of this thing imploding but I still have high hopes, I liked Kiffin but he is just one person on this team. the offence respects cable so they will play hard for him. the defense plays for Ryan and they have been playing great football these last three weeks, at least for 10 quarters.
I think they try to really open the offence up and see what jmac can really do. Kiffin had the team bottled up and for go reason, but I think he may have been a little to cautious with the passing game.
i think alot will depend some of the young guy’s and the new ones as will. the ones that have been here for a long time have already moved on. so if the new guy’s can move on then all should be good on Oaktown.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:20 am
B-#607Ray charles can see walker is not our best reciever but if he would start playing it would take a little presure off the QB
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:23 am
Will you so called Raider Fans get over what the media is trying to portray and get back to supporting your team..who gives a flying F*ck about how Al looked, this ,what Mark Schelereth has to say, screw it all…I’m a Raider Fan, not complaining, and I LIKE what Cable is saying and I like the feeling he gives me..makes Lane look like a spoiled little rich USC kid
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:24 am
Go get ‘em, Cable!
No more soft little “I’m in” slogans…that stuff sounded sooo high school
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:25 am
I can’t wait for the game against N.O.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:26 am
RaiderFan in Oakland Says:
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:23 am
Will you so called Raider Fans get over what the media is trying to portray and get back to supporting your team..who gives a flying F*ck about how Al looked, this ,what Mark Schelereth has to say, screw it all…I’m a Raider Fan, not complaining, and I LIKE what Cable is saying and I like the feeling he gives me..makes Lane look like a spoiled little rich USC kid
Talk about whinning…..If you don’t want to read the fukkin posts, dont read them……..
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:26 am
I don’t have enough time to argue back and forth, I could care less about being right in this invisible BLOG, but know that I feel good about Cable, win, lose or draw
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:26 am
#612 IM WITH YOU BROTHER
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:26 am
Did someone say Dinosaurs?
http://images.footballfanatics.com/productImages/_132000/FF_132001_s.jpg
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:27 am
Choas, you must be one of the “so called fans”…
just shut up and watch the game, no one cares what you think..if they did Lane would still be coach..
GET OVER IT!
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:28 am
did someone say Poole was on target? That guy is so off target he couldn’t score in middle school basketball game…Poole right? Now I know the world has gone to heck…funniest thing I’ve ever heard…
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:29 am
We all wanted to like Lane, but we honestly knew deep down he wasn’t rough enough or aggressive enough for this here, so back to college or high school for you
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:29 am
Hot chick:
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e399/edie669/Raider%20Files/Great%20Weekend/RaiderSexySat.gif
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:30 am
THANKS DAKOTA…
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:32 am
I like that dinosaur Dude! =) I wan to get 1 for my nephew!!!
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:33 am
People, the media always have to be right..they can’t be wrong..that’s why their is such a defesne to their stories, why SprtsCenter gets condescending towards whatever subject they are wrong about..and that includes a lot of members of the media..point is, your not going to convince anyone to like/dislike Al if they already like the man or they don’t..just like the presidential race…you either voting Rep of Dem, no matter the outcome of debates or whatever..therefore…
Go get ‘em CABLE!
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 am
I dont believe Sapp I honestly dont think Al was calling plays for Kiff. If that was the case they would not have thrown the ball three times during Buffalo.
Sapp acts like the Raiders take so many shots down field. We rarily ever see long bombs.
Maybe that was the case under Shell, but Tom Walsh was such a disaster I wouldnt blame Al for callin a few plays.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 am
Just trying to distract all of you from the circus:
http://www.insomniacslounge.com/uploaded_images/bootylicious-757766.jpg
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:38 am
MR
I see you brought up some of my previous posts, I have no problem with that. I thought the situation made no sense and I was right, it didn´t make any sense. It still does not make any sense the way Davis and Kiffin handled this thing.
When I post here I do it in good faith, I´m just expressing my opinion, I maybe be wrong but I´m honest, I dont change my story to suit previous statements.
Most of us come here to have a good time talking Raiders with fellow fans, you come here with your weird Al Davis fixation and you will say absolutely anything to try to “make” a point, it doesn´t matter if you lie or contradict yourself all the time.
That´s the difference between you and the majority of the other posters on this blog.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:39 am
‘Fear is the mind killer’. – Frank Herbert
Afraid of the rest of the upcoming season and what it will bring? Afraid the O-line won’t block? (their man is now HC, they’ll block their a88es off for him) Afraid that Javon won’t make it up to speed? Give him time. Afraid of Knapp’s play-calling? (in Atlanta he did not have a QB, he had a runner with a great arm. Here he has J The Franchise Russ.)Afraid that the D will melt down? They’ve been playing quite well for a few weeks so I don’t see it.
Cable has said that with few rules he expects that grown men will act as grown men. The onus is on the players to get it done. As it should be.
So, don’t be afraid of speculation.
Being afraid is what makes you leave the field with two time outs in your pocket.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:39 am
MR
And this is one example of what I´m talking about:
- Here is what you said when Kiffin was hired:
“MaddenRaider Says:
January 22nd, 2007 at 8:26 pm
We have the talent to be a playoff team as soon as this year.”
- Here is what you said when we were 2-2 last year:
“MaddenRaider Says:
October 1st, 2007 at 1:22 pm
There is no reason for this squad to not go at least 8-8 with the overall talent, if a good game plan is used.”
* By the way, we went 3-13 after you said that.
- You were taling playoffs whe Kiffin was hired, we had the talent you said.
Then you said we should be at least 8-8, again we had the talent, we just needed sound game-planning.
- But here´s what you said just a couple of days ago when Kiffin was fired:
“MR Says:
September 30th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Only Davis worshiping retards think we have the personnel.
Kiffin can only work with what Al gives him, as Al makes the final call on personnel.
With this personnel, frankly, I think 5-15 is actually good.”
- Apparently and by your admission you are a Davis worshipping retard.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 am
al davis has lost his luster when it comes to evaluating talent. The term committment to excellence no longer exists due to no committment to anyone but himself. Would you believe that Al Davis calls timeouts from the booth. he is only a phone call away. He is the reason why Angelo Hall gets chewed up every week because he changes coverages and dictates who plays bump and run.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 am
Here’s the way I see it.
Davis most likely lied to Kiffin when he hired him, telling him things like; You’ll be able to hire your own staff, have complete control over that. And also knowing how Davis works. I would not be surprised if Davis lied and told Kiffin that if he took the HC job that he would be able to make the first pick in the draft, or that Davis would take the player that Kiffin wanted. (Even Davis admitted that Kiffin didn’t want to draft JRuss) And to me that started the problem right there.
First Davis Hires Kiffin, tells him you get the say in the draft based upon your knowledge of College Football. So then what happends Kiffin wants to a. Trade the pick b. choose Brady Quinn, or c. draft Calvin Johnson. But what happens the OWNER AL DAVIS decides he wants to pick JRuss. Less then 3 months on the job and Davis has already LIED to Kiffin.
Remember the Davis – Kiffin press conference, remember what Davis said about Kiffins knowledge of College football and his recruiting ability? I would be 100% shocked if Davis didn’t tell Kiffin that he would be able to draft the players he (kiffin wanted) at least in his (kiffins) first draft. But like always AL Lied and did it his way. Then Al most likely lied when he allowed Kiffin to Hire Mark Jackson as his point man for contracts because Al doesn’t believe in contracts.
Say what you want but in the End AL MOST LIKELY LIED at the very beginning, and therefore to me Al Loses all credibility.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:48 am
You got my attention Dakota
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:48 am
remember that Kiffen only got the job because there were no other quality coaches willing to tolerate “dictator davis”. Part of the success from 2000-2003 was due in part to Davis being “committed” to Jon Gruden and the youth movement. We went out on a limb and signed Rich Gannon. Along with a young offensive line and veterans on defense, the raiders were set for years of success. Remember that Gruden wanted out so bad and was solely because of Al Davis and his antics. We all know what happenned since.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:49 am
Kiff did hire his own staff on the offensive side.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:51 am
HowlonguntilwefireCable,
let he who is without sin…
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 am
i also agreed with Kiffen that we should not have drafted Russell with the 1st pick. Quinn was a better fit to run the offense but you know Al, he loves to throw the deep ball and wants to go back to those glory days. It’s not going to happen using that old school philosphy. Russell is talented but Quinn is a natural, pure passer with expanded football knowledge playing under Charlie and Notre Dame.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:53 am
I like Cable’s “grown men” comment. Thats one thing I think Kiff didnt get. He acted like he was still in college. Holding guys out of the game because they didnt practive everyday. Thats college stuff.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:53 am
Did all of you just start following the Raiders ? I guess this is the first time you heard Al Davis owns the team. Calling out Al Davis doesn’t win games so we are stuck loosing until he croaks. So do yourself a favor and don’t waste your time. Al will do what he feels is best for Al and that will never change.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:55 am
Lakeshow,
ND media hype.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:55 am
Davis has no eye for talent? I guess everybody wanted to make a free safety from cal an NFL corner…nmamdi is the best in the league that was all al Davis…yeah he’s had dome busts but this guy just drafted jruss and dmac…trust me al knows football!
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:57 am
howlong…,
Even if Al never directly lied to Kiff about the first draft pick, that is a horrible way to start your GM/Coach relationship. Bring him in for his knowledge of college players, tell him he can run whatever offense he wants, let him assemble the coaches to run that offense, then when it comes time to acquire the very first and most important player to the entire offensive system, Al just goes over his head and gets a guy that Kiffin may or may not have wanted (for his system). That is team sabotage at it’s finest right there, thanks Al.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:58 am
Dakota Im diggin the booty shots.. Thought you were a rack man?….
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:59 am
quinn are you kidding the guy can’t even beat out derek Anderson…,
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:02 am
BridgeBrigade,
It wasn’t Kiffie’s money. Would you shell out $60 million for something you did not want? Sabotage? J Russ is a fine young man and looks to be a better QB each week.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:04 am
M,
Respectfully disagree. If Al wanted to run his vertical offense, that’s fine, it is his team. But he should have hired a head coach that was willing to run that offense. A West Coast Coach, with a big-armed pocket QB does not make sense for any of them.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:06 am
What up nation. Good morning.
408RAIDER I see you dropped the “NATION Collective” idiot tag. Good for you. Welcome back to reality, how does it feel?
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:06 am
Dakota…post 481.
Just admit it, that´s you man….lol.
I bet you put on the same outfit last night, except you were wearing your Henry Rodriguez Cubs jersey.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 am
Read this crap
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2008/10/shaun-phillips.html
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:09 am
M,
For the record I like everything I have seen from J-Russ as well. Great young man, with loads of talent, but assembling an NFL team is not like playing with legos: you can’t just acquire talent and throw it all together in a blender. Randy Moss should have taught Al that lesson, but sometimes old dogs don’t learn new tricks.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:13 am
OG
yeah I was just frustrated with big Al,but, he fired Kiffin so might as well go back to 408RAIDER from the NATION…
Morning Dirty!
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 am
I don’t know where I was going with that legos analogy. Maybe it should be building an NFL team is not like making a smoothie, or building an NFL team is like assembling a jigsaw puzzle, the pieces need to fit together. Whatever, that being said, I hope Al intends to build an offense around Jam from here on out, because we definitely got the horses.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 am
408RAIDER:
Good for you, moments of clarity are refreshing.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:19 am
If somebody would sponsor a fund to knock off Al Davis, I’ll contribute 50 bucks. It can’t cost that much. Or at least give him a 2 week notice as GM.
I’m stuck. I can’t switch teams. I’ve been a Raiders fan since #3 and when George Blanda would come in as quarterback and perform miracles.
Al Davis has to die one way or another, or be given an offer that he can’t refuse.
Ignacio
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:19 am
Morning 408
Hate living in Limbo
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:22 am
Dirty WTF that link Harshed my Buzz big time!! LOL Im in a bad mood now!
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:24 am
I really like Gannon, but he cant say work for the raiders its an imposible thing. Thats bs.
Before the raiders gannon was a bad QB backup. The vikins draft him because they thougt he can play as LB.
Nobody wants Gannon before the Raiders, even almost all of us hate him.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 am
El NegroyPlata
Let em know brother!
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 am
Yeah I know I read it this morning. Typical ra ra I have heard all week. I have people down here that dont even recognize that they almost lost.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:30 am
BridgeBrigade,
thanks for being civil. Yeah I did not quite grasp the “lego” thing either when you wrote it.
Your point is excellent. Form the O to give J Russ the best chance to use his arsenal rather than try to fit him into a preformed box. And I am not talking about 80 yard bombs on every down.He is a unique talent and he can make ALL of the throws. Just allow him to find his comfort zone and it will all slow down for him. He’s gonna be special (barring injury).
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 am
Well then M, I think we can both agree, Jam is the centerpiece of this team from here on out. I don’t agree with every move that Al makes, but he chose Russell so I can only hope that he surrounds him with all the tools that he needs.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:40 am
M Says:
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:55 am
Lakeshow,
ND media hype.
______________________________________
M, I have to disagree with you just a little bit on this one. I am a ND fan, and I have to admit that when Quinn was here I thought he was nothing more than an above-average QB. I still think his arm in not suited to make the 20+ yard NFL throws, however, his leadership skills and intangibles became clear last year after Quinn was gone. Quinn truly made chicken salad from chickensheet in his last two years at ND. His mobility and pocket presence and decision making are very, very good.
I would rather have Jamarcus, but I think Quinn is going to be a very good NFL QB. Not great, but very good. Jamarcus could be great, unless Al derails him with multiple HCs and systems.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:41 am
post 657………Gannon wasn’t drafted by minny and he wasnt drafted as a LB!
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:41 am
I don’t know if anybody has already thought of this, but in regards to Al’s mystery executive: I had previously assumed it was Mariucci, but the thought just occured to me, that perhaps it is none other than Jim Fassel. Fassel grew up in the LA area, coached at Stanford, and his son is already on the staff. He was seen rocking a raiders hat at training camp, which is when he could have had contact with Al. I have a huge amount of respect for Fassel in regards to offensive football, and I for one would be thrilled to get him in our organization.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:41 am
OG dont get it twisted I’m still pissed @ Big Al… I wanna kick him in the a$s…
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 am
Bob…sorry, no H-Rod jersey, I sport the Louis Salazar jersey!
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 am
Dakota, damn brother tough game last night
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 am
Shut up, Sapp. You came in for 4 years, and played decent for 1. Go get your ass kicked on the dance floor, you fat slob!
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:43 am
Brien,
Now that Kiffin is gone it should open the door for some changes on the o-line right? Wade starting at C?
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:43 am
Won’t be seeing anymore 76 yd field goal tries. I’m sure JaMarcus (who’d probably been throwing “Hail Mary’s” just before halftime since PeeWee football) was thinking the same as most of us as SeaBass lined up, WTF? Hell, just before the half of the Buffy game, Raiders took a knee from their own 30. I thought it was a waste. Just toss that sucker and see what happens.
Personally I thought it was quite disrespectful toward Russell, the O-line and to the WRs.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 am
Sup Brien?
Who drafted Gannon then and you know they wanted him to be a DB.. so lets just say they wanted him to play D
ENP is cool take it easy on our brethren in Mexico..
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 am
Dakota, we shall see if that happens but I’d like for Wade to start at center. I just feel power is lacking with Grove and people can talk all that ZBS crap if they want but inside the 10 you need power when teams are stacking verse the run. John Wade has proved for years he can handle the load. I mean for heaven’s sake Tampa only got rid of him because Jeff Faine was a Pro Bowler
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 am
Hey Dakota…….Who is starting for you tonight?
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 am
New England drafted Gannon as a safety in 87 I believe
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 am
BART
I know you are not a fan of Tom Cable but let’s assume for a moment that he does ok this year and gets the job for next season, would you like to bring Scott Linehan as OC?.
Truth is I don´t even know if they are close, just that they were teammates at Idaho but I´m just speculating anyway…so I´m throwing it out there.
It would be a different system so that´s the downside but maybe Cable makes the transition easier.
- “Linehan was offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach for the Minnesota Vikings from 2002-2004. The Vikings’ offense ranked second, first and fourth respectively during his tenure.
Quarterback Daunte Culpepper’s 110.9 passer rating in 2003 was fourth-highest in NFL history. The Vikings scored 290 points the year before Linehan joined them 390, 416, and 405 in three Linehan’s three seasons.
Linehan joined the Rams after one season as offensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins, who improved from 29th in the NFL in total offense in 2004 to 14th in 2005 and from 31st in rushing to 12th. The Dolphins finished the season with six consecutive victories.”
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 am
Chaos, the Dodgers pulled a shocker IMO. But hey when you got Manny out there anything is possible. My grandfather is an old school Dodger fan from the 40s
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 am
Big Z is starting.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:49 am
Dakota I tell you Kwame Harris starting at left tackle will be a problem all year. Did you hear this guy talk yesterday? Oh my god he sounds like a pu$$y and not a football player. To me it sends a message like most Standford guys…..”I’m soft as medicated cotton”
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:50 am
Big Z is a good pitcher but he also beats people up lol
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:50 am
I think it was only a shocker to everyone who has not been watching them lately. They have been on a tear and I do think a lot has to do with Manny. I hope we have a freeway series this year, with the Angels Vs. The Dodgers. I have some really good seats with the company and have never been to a baseball playoffs game!
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:51 am
Freeway series will not be happening at all. Sox has matchup advantages of the Angels. The Angels cant beat them. Boston got squad and I think they are winning the whole damn thing again
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:51 am
My, my, my, everyone here seems to be quite cordial this morning. Very nice to see. Makes for more thoughtful discussions. Passions and viewpoints are much better when expressed without the invective. Thanks all.
Dakota,
I am not an ND fan so I have a natural bias against them. Perhaps you are right that The Q will be very good. I don’t see it, but I might not look for it due to my predisposition against the Golden Domers.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 am
My god I hate the red sox but I just dont see them winning. Personally I’d rather see a Windy city series with White Sox winning
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 am
M- everyone is cordial because the coaching mess for now is done
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 am
Brien…would you rather see Henderson at LT and Harris at RT with Green and his penalties on the bench?
I guess now that Cable is the HC we should have a pretty good idea about his confidence in Henderson.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:54 am
M- all of us have two things in common……….we are tired of the losing and we love the Raiders
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:55 am
Dakota
Lol..I don´t even know who Salazar is and thats why it´s would make a great jersey, but let´s face it, it´s the rest of the clothes that make that outfit a classic, don´t get rid of it.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:56 am
Bob, you better bookmark that photo so you can nail me with it during next year’s NBA finals.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:57 am
QUIET B4 the STORM!!!!!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:57 am
Marley Esq.,
interesting speculation about Linehan. Who knows what the future will bring with staff? I’m just hoping that for the rest of this season Knapp will feel free to take the training wheels off.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 am
Dakota Kwame Harris best days were at RT in san francisco. He jsut doesn’t have what it takes to be the best pass blocker on the o-line. Now whether Henderson can I don’t know but in college people said he would play down to his competiton but show up against top tier pass rushers like Gaines Adams.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 am
Dakota Green needs to sit
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 am
Green is a distant cousin of mines and I’m very embarassed of it
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 am
where’s boo whoo? i miss her lovely comments, plus I haven’t got “owned” yet today
Tom Cable has head coaching experience and NFL experience. 2 things Lane Kiffin didn’t have when he took over as HC here. Plus he looked like a liar & a sissy. deserves nothing, because he did nothing here. Kiffin fans aren’t Raider fans. Choose a side suckas!
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:03 am
Knapp is a 49er ingrate but he has more knowledge on how to beat NFL defenses than the last guy we had calling the plays.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:03 am
Great point Marley. I think Al and Cable would both like that move. Who says I don’t like Tom Cable? I just feel bad for the guy, because he had to assume the role of head Scape-Coach at mid-season. He is in a very tough spot right now, but I really hope he can pull it off.
My prediction if Cable struggles though is Jim Fassel steps in as pseudo GM, and hires the next coach.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:04 am
BART
I noticed that when Davis spoke about the “TV guy” he said he got a call from him that morning wondering what was he going to do…sounds like he was interested in the vacancy or maybe, if it was Mariucci, it was to put the word in for Knapp and Cable, two guys who coached for him.
And then, after the conference was over he dropped the “football executive” who is a “local” and it would be “unique”.
So it seems to me like the TV guy is different than the football executive, it could be a number of people but it´s always fun to speculate, I´d have no problem with Fassell either.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:05 am
M every 1 is being all chill because tard boy isnt here yet!
RAIDER ON…
Dakota where can I get 1 of those dinosaurs for my nephew..
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:08 am
speak of the devil!
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 am
408…here you go
http://www.collegegear.com/sf/stores/1333/p-211205.shtml
Dakota…always here to help.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 am
Dakota
Don´t worry, I know where to find your picture, it will be posted peridically wether the Lakers win it or not.
M…590
Agreed, I would say do it at a smart pace, but quicker than it was.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 am
BridgeBrigade,
the Raiders do have enough good players to win in the NFL. Certainly not star quality at every position, which team does? I don’t think it will be all that tough for Cable to deal with. (Now Haslett has got a mess of problems.) And for the players, they now have a coach who will not go to the media saying “We can’t win with this roster”.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:14 am
Looks like MR is back to posting as me. MR why don’t you just HAVE the Oakglenn name. Obviously, it means more to you than it does me.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 am
Actually 408, tard boy just woke up and is posting as me. So sad for him. It really is.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 am
“His eventual goal is to coach with his dad, though he admits he isn’t ready yet to work at that level.”
That is from an article about John Fassel, Jim’s son back in 2000. John Fassel is now a QC coach for our ST’s. Interesting.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 am
Dakota
That was a nice FF game last week by the way, I was scared that Mendenhall would get a couple of goal line scores, good thing he broke something lol.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 am
Thanx Dakota my brother in law is gonna hate it(whiner fan) but my nephew already wears raider gear that I buy him!!
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:16 am
Doodz everyone is cordial becauze no one iz bazhing Mr.Daviz! And it better ztay that way or I’ll ztart kicking zome azz!
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:19 am
If any of you guys look at the play calling the last three games, you’ll see a first half which is daring, imaginative, non predicatable, but yet tough. Then you see a second half which is boring, predicatable, waaaay too conservative, and predicated on a premise of trying not to lose, instead of winning the battle. Knapp and Kiffin decided to split play calling duties so that opponents could not find discernible patterns to exploit. Guess which one called each half?
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 am
M,
I defer to Mr. Madden on that point. With an owner willing to pay the price for winning, this team has a lot less obstacles than one might think.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:23 am
OG I thought the lil guy got tuckered out going through the archives last night…
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:28 am
OG I thought the lil guy got tuckered out going through the archives last night…but then again he really came up with some good point. Plus he made me take a long, long look in the mirror. I have to admit, we really do shoot off our mouth’s here in faderland. We need to kewl it so people stop laffing at us and make us eat ourword.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:28 am
408, the poor lil guy has obviously got deep psychological issues. Any grown man that holds on to a 49er blankie as tightly as he does, has serious problems. But if being “oakglenn” can somehow make his mundane existence better, hey, it’s not a big deal for me.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:33 am
Another piece to my theory:
After Art Shell took over for Shanahan, none other than Jim Fassel became offensive coordinator for a team that went on to the play-offs the next two seasons before missing them in 1992. In 1993 Tom Walsh, yeah that Tom Walsh became Shell’s OC, and Shell never took the Raiders back to the play-offs during his tenure. Both he and Walsh were canned.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:35 am
are you gonna be OG or 408?
Hey I admit some of your stuff was funny I think Dakota did a better job BTW…
dude I like you better as MR..
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:37 am
New Post!
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:49 am
Just BLITZ, Baby !!!
A WIN is cure-all !! So lets go out n get some !!
Gooooooooo Raiders !!
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:15 pm
i thought i would pop in here to harsh someone’s buzz…
Al Davis Rules !!!
well… okay… mission accomplished !!!
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:20 pm
two words why the raiders are as terrible as they are:
Al Davis
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:23 pm
you guys remeber when the raiders blew it against the bills…..what a shame
GO Bills
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:52 pm
On KNBR they played Al Davis telling his flunky he didn’t know anything about Tom Cable and to get a media guide so he could introduce him. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Al’s in depth interview. It seems like he got all the coaches in a room and asked anyone ho wanted the job to step forward. Apparently, Cable was the only one who didn’t step backward.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:06 am
Post # 5 Brian you have to be the stupidest meathead idiot thats ever posted on here .Last time they won a Super Bowl was when they where in L.A dont blame L.A blame AL and your momma for not aborting your dumb waste of air a$$ when she had a chance see what inbreeding does it brings retards like u into this world and on here posting garbage.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
vigetladom…
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