Burgess gets a second opinion
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 3:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.
It’s not looking good for Derrick Burgess with regard to playing against the New Orleans Saints Sunday at the Superdome.
Burgess missed practice for the third straight day with a triceps injury and coach Tom Cable said the two-time Pro Bowl defensive would be seeking more medical advice.
Cable said Burgess would be on the trip to New Orleans but it was doubtul he would play.
In that case, Jay Richardson would move to left end, with Kalimba Edwards opening at right end.
Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (elbow), running back Justin Fargas (groin) and guard Cooper Carlisle (ankle) all practiced without restrictions before the Raiders boarded their charter flight headed to New Orleans.
Running back Darren McFadden (toe), linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder) and tight end Ben Troupe (foot) were limited. McFadden and Ekejiuba should play, Troupe would be available if active.
Cable seemed confident McFadden would play a prominent role along with Fargas.
“Absolutely, we’ll spot it,” Cable said. “I see those guys being able to do a lot, like we did in Kansas City, a good mix of the two of them.”
Safety Gibril Wilson, out with the flu the previous day, practiced without restrictions Friday.
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October 10th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
O,k. then
October 10th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Run DMC should only play if Bush can’t go. No need to make him play on turf and make that toe even worse. I think this team can really make a statement down the stretch of things to come in 2009, and we’ll need DMac to be 100% for that.
October 10th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Sounds like they’re ready to play. Just win baby!
October 10th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
what about Bush!
October 10th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
stop him
October 10th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Suckage
October 10th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
I’m the new flava in your ear!
October 10th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Sorry the songs on
October 10th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
raiders win 27-24
October 10th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
I guess my cars staying @ work till tomarrow my brother just got back with more beer!!
October 10th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Sup Dirty
October 10th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
408….
Good thinking there, give your bro a atta boy, from the Nation.
Go Raiders.
October 10th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
JAVON WALKER UPDATE PLEASE.
October 10th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Sup 408
October 10th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
yo Dirty my boss cant hang hes passed out on my couch.. We had a drinking contest @ lunch looser had to pick up the tab.. Hee hee
pluss we never made it back 
October 10th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Burgess is good no doubt. Richardson just doesn’t seem to generate pressure or get a solid push. Frustrated when initial move is thwarted.
Hope he breaks big, but N.O.’s line is stellar at protect.
DMC is worthless unless his toe is healed. Sure, he may bust a 10+ yarder now and again, but so does Bush and Fargas.
Int he ZBS, if you can’t cut back, not helping the team.
McFad favored his toe so bad it destroyed his running style.
Constantly trying to cut off his left foot, it was bad and caused Cooper Carlisle’s high ankle sprain against the Bills.
It was brutal.
Hope, hope, hope he’s healed and ready for the turf in Louisiana. If he is, get ready for 100 +.
October 10th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
909
must win this sunday! I’m looking for Jamarcus to have a breakout game maybe an int or two,but the NFL will know we are no longer 1 dimensional….
GO RAIDERS
October 10th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Speaking of beer.
Just pulled a quick drive thru, at the IBA “Beer Blog”. What a gig, getting paid to go around the country to drink beer and write a bleeping blog about it.
I want that gig.
October 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Yeah well…Screw all the details. Just win. Nothing more, nothing less.
October 10th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
408….
Yeah, J Russ should do good things on Sunday, he will have all his family and friends there. He will want to impress, sort of a homecoming game for him.
Just hope he doesn’t try “to” hard.
Better call for pizza or something, or it will be a “Bad day at Black Rock” for you. One of those hangovers, where your eyeballs hurt…ouch.
October 10th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
We are going to win
October 10th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Burgess has been MIA all year. If he is hurt sit him, let him heal cause he has done nothing yet. I would rather have a healthy Burgess than a one armed Burgess. Were going to be ok. Here comes the passing game, look out NO
October 10th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
909
my brother is firing up the grill.. gonna wake my boss up and battle on some Madden $5 a game 3min quarters…
winner has to buy more beer!!!
October 10th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
I read it lol I wish my boss would take me out for drinks cheap bastard!
October 10th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
I wish I didn’t have a boss and I was rich. Then I could buy myself my own drinks.
October 10th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
dirty I paid 4 lunch cuz I knew he was gonna loose….
October 10th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
408..
LOL, sounds like you having a great evening =)
October 10th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
right on 408
October 10th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
DoH!
October 10th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
420!
October 10th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
408…
Good deal.. those hangovers where even your eyeballs hurt, is not fun. Believe me, I know all about them..lol.
Another dang early game Sunday, bloodymarys at 9:00A.M.
October 10th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Stoner lol
October 10th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
tried to give my boss a hicky with the vacuum cleaner hose LOL hes awake now…
I’ll chack back in a lil bit later NATION!!
October 10th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
That whole thread sounded wrong 408
October 10th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
ok 1 more his lady is mad @ him so I was trying to stir the pot! It was totally a joke 4 passing out…
October 10th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
one must allways be aware 408
October 10th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Bloody Mary @7am,RAIDERS!!!!!!!
October 10th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Why do NFL players rush/get rushed back from injury too quickly? It always drags the injury on through the season. Why did Burgess practice on a Monday??? He’s an NFL star, he’ll remember how to rush on Sunday. And Bush/Rankin might have worked out the last couple games instead of having McD play slip n’ slide, and keep his toe from healing.
-sigh-
October 10th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Good to have Gibril back!
MVP of the defense so far…when he’s not punching opposing players of course
October 10th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Good news for the SO-CALS out there. The Raider game will be on KCBS ch.2
Bad news, The Dohyers still getting beat.
October 10th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
i think bush and mcfadden should play and do there best
October 10th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Willie..
7:00A.M.? More power to you.
Go Raiders.
October 10th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
408, I don’t have a response for the nonsense
October 10th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
hitting town RAIDER NATION 4eva
October 10th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
sounds good..still think we get a W
October 10th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
if we can get pressure on the QB that is..kirk and ricky should b coming on the blitz early and often with T How spying reggie. we can do this.
October 10th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
RW Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Good to have Gibril back!
MVP of the defense so far…when he’s not punching opposing players of course
……………………………………………….
…UH. …that would be Nnamdi Aushomua I think. I could be wrong though.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
909raiderlifer,I think 408raider understands my game day prep,sort of!Maybe not his cup of tea,but RAIDERS!!!!!!!
October 10th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Jerry Mac..
You going to hit the town, in the “Cresent City”? couple of hurricanes and some jazz music, get a hottie to flash the goods.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Willie…
Lo effin L.. 7:00 A.M. is a tad early for me bro, and I’m Irish. But I will toast you at 9:00A.M when I make my first one..
Go Raiders.
p.s. Dohyers lose. 8-5.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Yeah,,,the Dis Chargers are the most overrated team in the league…..AGAIN….
October 10th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
I’ve never met a Chargers fan outside of California…just goes to show what a lame ass team it is, lol.
The Raiders are global, the Chargers are lame.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Charger dude..
You, keep forgetting one thing.
The “Norval Factor”. that is your weak link and Belicheat will exploit that.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Discharged up, I need a sexy Puerto Rican photo. What ya got? You always come with some good photos.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
909raiderlifer,a toast it is at 9:00am,nation is ready for Coach Cables first WIN! PS,when the RAIDERS are at home,we start at 6:00am ,waiting for the gates to open!!! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!
October 10th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Willie..
Your on.. 9:00A.M. it shall be.
As Coach Cable said: “Got to choke ‘em out in the 4th qtr.
Go Raiders.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
It’s Brien, for the record. shhhhhh
October 10th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Yo Brien,whats up?Hows youre buddy KK doing?
October 10th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Me and KK aren’t kool anymore. That brother did me wrong.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
lil willie stop trolling as me. I know it feels good. But come on.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
If you want to know the truth, I saw pictures of KK sitting on my boyfriends lap on his MySpace page.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Chambers best dis charger Wr – out
v jackson sore knee missed yesteday practice
true 2nd string QB Rivers = bruised ribs.
tomilison toe = 25%
gates= 75%
You have the worst pass D in the NFL, and cant stop the run. loved the ronnie brown run as he trucked the overated cro… ha that was great.
You will never sniff the SB this year or any other. but keep wishing band wagoneer.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
discharged up, I always knew you liked losers. You just said it! lol
October 10th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Brien,None of my business,if we ALL keep football in mind,ONLY,Its all Good!Talk it out,in private,or on this blog,like both of YOU,period!
October 10th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Are you APE MAN? lol
Or ms. willie?? lol
October 10th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Brien, you are so larrrrrrrrge.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
You are a freak
October 10th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Hey BRIEN,be back later,trolls are out,fuggers ps,Im out,anyone posting as willie are 49er gaybirds from this point on! hello mr/mrs
October 10th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
By Ape Man
October 10th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Anyone smell a BIG game outta JRuss coming up? You know, being back Louisiana and all….
October 10th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
That Al Davis was up to his usual tricks when he let Norv go so that the Chargers would pick him up, that Al is dirty, talk about a sabotage.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Have y’all seen that chocolate rain video. That sh*ts funny as hell.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Where is everyone?
October 10th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Howie Longshlong Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Anyone smell a BIG game outta JRuss coming up? You know, being back Louisiana and all….
I smell something but as bad as you girlz stink I don’t think it’s your QB having a big game.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
HHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DID I MISS SOMETHING?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
GUESS SO
October 10th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
ALL CAPS BABY
October 10th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
We really need Ekejiuba to be healthy. The Punt return teeam needs to stop Bush
October 10th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Spidey your team and town is so boring your in a Raiders blog, get a life loser.
we will always be better than the broncos even if we never win a game again, more history and tradition here.
better than lame denver I don’t care what happens even John Elway knows Raider women are better…..
October 10th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
hi friends
October 10th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Hows everyone doing tonight?
October 10th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Need what kool?
October 10th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
I wont be watching the game sunday morning,..going to Tahoe for the day,…but looking forward to Jets game,…we have a pretty big tailgate planned, brien if youre reading this call me and will give you deatails of whre it is,..its not in usual area,…anyway, I will be getting real drunk for that one,…we never beat Favre,..and we wont a week from sunday either….I wont recall it monday though so its all good.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Man this tv show, Snapped, is pretty cool,..alot of crazy folks in the world.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Well goodnight…in my opinion the Aints will crush us,..but who cares anymore,..we are used to losing,..just another game.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Who do I start…
Brees at home against Oakland?
Warner at home against Dallas?
October 11th, 2008 at 12:02 am
oh Man, Sarah Palin is guilty of abuse of power. That messes everything up.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:12 am
Im sorry. for getting you in my mess.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:24 am
K-rock, that oakglenn guy would give you a break down of matchups, but since I am now him, I guess I shoud do it. Go with Brees against the Raiders. First off I hate the Raiders and they haven’t done shi*. then Burgess is out, so Brees will have a field day against Dhall and the lame Raiders defense. they suck dude.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:34 am
I think Palin and McCain are going to pull it out. Tom Bradley effect. This country is as racist as it ever was, it’s just in the closet now as opposed to out in the open. And there’s nothing more in the closet than the voting booth.
If you’re white and hanging out with a bunch of white guys, and they start making fun of blacks and Mexicans, and they always do, and you try to confront them on their racism, you might as well be a tree hugging loon. You’re not invited to the next outing. You’re ostracized. We’d have to be crazy to think that won’t play a factor at the voting booth.
My prediction: McCain wins, market crashes, all out chaos ensues and martial law is enacted. I’m so sure of it I’m willing to bet on it. BTW, I think the same thing would happen if Obama wins. Seriously. This country is doomed to fail. Karma’s catching up with it. It’s not going to be mid east t-e-r-rorists or N. Kor-ea. It’s going to be us. We’re going to kill ourselves. The rest of the world is just going to watch, and eventually Ru-ssia, I-ran and N. Ko-rea will pick up the crumbs. You guys know this is going to happen. Deny it all you want. Goodnight.
Oh,
Saints 34, Raiders 10.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:42 am
That must be lmn speaking stupidly like that.
October 11th, 2008 at 2:07 am
Kool Kell, you’re right. I was talking foolishly.
It’ll really be Saints 34, Raiders 0.
October 11th, 2008 at 3:28 am
I wouldn’t play Mcfadden, there’s no need.
They better stop screwing with this kids future, we all know how turf toe can linger.
Remember C-Wood, he’s still getting it shot up after all these years.
October 11th, 2008 at 4:36 am
ﺗﻜﻮﻳﻦ 2
1 وَهَكَذَا اكْتَمَلَتِ السَّمَاوَاتُ وَالأَرْضُ بِكُلِّ مَا فِيهَا.
2 وَفِي الْيَوْمِ السَّابِعِ أَتَمَّ اللهُ عَمَلَهُ الَّذِي قَامَ بِهِ، فَاسْتَرَاحَ فِيهِ مِنْ جَمِيعِ مَا عَمِلَهُ.
3 وَبَارَكَ اللهُ الْيَوْمَ السَّابِعَ وَقَدَّسَهُ، لأَنَّهُ اسْتَرَاحَ فِيهِ مِنْ جَمِيعِ أَعْمَالِ الْخَلْقِ
4 هَذَا وَصْفٌ مَبْدَئِيٌّ لِلسَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ يَوْمَ خَلَقَهَا الرَّبُّ الإِلَهُ.
5 وَلَمْ يَكُنْ قَدْ نَبَتَ بَعْدُ فِي الأَرْضِ شَجَرٌ بَرِّيٌّ وَلاَ عُشْبٌ بَرِّيٌّ، لأَنَّ الرَّبَّ الإِلَهَ لَمْ يَكُنْ قَدْ أَرْسَلَ مَطَراً عَلَى الأَرْضِ، وَلَمْ يَكُنْ هُنَاكَ إِنْسَانٌ لِيَفْلَحَهَا،
6 إلاَّ أَنَّ ضَبَاباً كَانَ يَتَصَاعَدُ مِنَ الأَرْضِ فَيَسْقِي سَطْحَهَا كُلَّهُ.
7 ثُمَّ جَبَلَ الرَّبُّ الإِلَهُ آدَمَ مِنْ تُرَابِ الأَرْضِ وَنَفَخَ فِي أَنْفِهِ نَسَمَةَ حَيَاةٍ، فَصَارَ آدَمُ نَفْساً حَيَّةً.
8 وَأَقَامَ الرَّبُّ الإِلَهُ جَنَّةً فِي شَرْقِيِّ عَدْنٍ وَوَضَعَ فِيهَا آدَمَ الَّذِي جَبَلَهُ.
9 وَاستَنْبَتَ الرَّبُّ الإِلَهُ مِنَ الأَرْضِ كُلَّ شَجَرَةٍ بَهِيَّةٍ لِلنَّظَرِ، وَلَذِيذَةٍ لِلأَكْلِ، وَغَرَسَ أَيْضاً شَجَرَةَ الْحَيَاةِ، وَشَجَرَةَ مَعْرِفَةِ الْخَيْرِ وَالشَّرِّ فِي وَسَطِ الْجَنَّةِ.
10 وَكَانَ نَهْرٌ يَجْرِي فِي عَدْنٍ لِيَسْقِيَ الْجَنَّةَ، وَمَا يَلْبَثُ أَنْ يَنْقَسِمَ مِنْ هُنَاكَ إِلَى أَرْبَعَةِ أَنْهُرٍ:
11 الأَوَّلُ مِنْهَا يُدْعَى فِيشُونَ، الَّذِي يَلْتَفُّ حَوْلَ كُلِّ الْحَوِيلَةِ حَيْثُ يُوْجَدُ الذَّهَبُ.
12 وَذَهَبُ تِلْكَ الأَرْضِ جَيِّدٌ، وَفِيهَا أَيْضاً الْمُقْلُ وَحَجَرُ الْجَزْعِ.
13 وَالنَّهْرُ الثَّانِي يُدْعَى جِيحُونَ الَّذِي يُحِيطُ بِجَمِيعِ أَرْضِ كُوشٍ.
14 وَالنَّهْرُ الثَّالِثُ يُدْعَى حِدَّاقِلَ وَهُوَ الْجَارِي فِي شَرْقِيِّ أَشُّورَ. وَالنَّهْرُ الرَّابِعُ هُوَ الْفُرَاتُ.
15 وَأَخَذَ الرَّبُّ الإِلَهُ آدَمَ وَوَضَعَهُ فِي جَنَّةِ عَدْنٍ لِيَفْلَحَهَا وَيَعْتَنِيَ بِهَا.
16 وَأَمَرَ الرَّبُّ الإِلَهُ آدَمَ قَائِلا: «كُلْ مَا تَشَاءُ مِنْ جَمِيعِ أَشْجَارِ الْجَنَّةِ،
17 وَلَكِنْ إِيَّاكَ أَنْ تَأْكُلَ مِنْ شَجَرَةِ مَعْرِفَةِ الْخَيْرِ وَالشَّرِّ لأَنَّكَ حِينَ تَأْكُلُ مِنْهَا حَتْماً تَمُوت».
18 ثُمَّ قَالَ الرَّبُّ الإِلَهُ: «لَيْسَ مُسْتَحْسَناً أَنْ يَبْقَى آدَمُ وَحِيداً. سَأَصْنَعُ لَهُ مُعِيناً مُشَابِهاً لَهُ».
19 وَكَانَ الرَّبُّ الإِلَهُ قَدْ جَبَلَ مِنَ التُّرَابِ كُلَّ وُحُوشِ الْبَرِّيَّةِ وَطُيُورِ الْفَضَاءِ وَأَحْضَرَهَا إِلَى آدَمَ لِيَرَى بِأَيِّ أَسْمَاءٍ يَدْعُوهَا، فَصَارَ كُلُّ اسْمٍ أَطْلَقَهُ آدَمُ عَلَى كُلِّ مَخْلُوقٍ حَيٍّ اسْماً لَهُ.
20 وَهَكَذَا أَطْلَقَ آدَمُ أَسْمَاءً عَلَى كُلِّ الطُّيُورِ وَالْحَيَوَانَاتِ وَالْبَهَائِمِ. غَيْرَ أَنَّهُ لَمْ يَجِدْ لِنَفْسِهِ مُعِيناً مُشَابِهاً لَهُ.
21 فَأَوْقَعَ الرَّبُّ الإِلَهُ آدَمَ فِي نَوْمٍ عَمِيقٍ، ثُمَّ تَنَاوَلَ ضِلْعاً مِنْ أَضْلاَعِهِ وَسَدَّ مَكَانَهَا بِاللَّحْمِ،
22 وَعَمِلَ مِنْ هَذِهِ الضِّلْعِ امْرَأَةً أَحْضَرَهَا إِلَى آدَمَ.
23 فَقَالَ آدَمُ: «هَذِهِ الآنَ عَظْمٌ مِنْ عِظَامِي وَلَحْمٌ مِنْ لَحْمِي. فَهِيَ تُدْعَى امْرَأَةً لأَنَّهَا مِنِ امْرِيءٍ أُخِذَتْ».
24 لِهَذَا، فَإِنَّ الرَّجُلَ يَتْرُكُ أَبَاهُ وَأُمَّهُ وَيَلْتَصِقُ بِامْرَأَتِهِ، وَيَصِيرَانِ جَسَداً وَاحِداً.
25 وَكَانَ آدَمُ وَامْرَأَتُهُ عُرْيَانَيْنِ، وَلَمْ يَعْتَرِهُمَا الْخَجَلُ.
October 11th, 2008 at 5:07 am
Woaw!! Rumor has it that KC are willing to trade Tony Gonzales to NYG!!, then they are almost totally without talent =)
October 11th, 2008 at 5:27 am
LOL! gahaha, Guns/Axl has announced a date for the album :/
October 11th, 2008 at 6:56 am
I thought Cable said he would rest Dmac if needed.Fargas will be back,Bush is healty I think.We’ll see if Yvonne can go,I hope not,we need JLH in the game 4 every play,he is Truely da man.MAN-O-MAN,Jmac&JLH
October 11th, 2008 at 6:57 am
Komm in mein Boot, der beste Seeman war doch ich!
October 11th, 2008 at 7:01 am
LMN I agree {I think???}
October 11th, 2008 at 7:04 am
4eva..
LOL, its german, and from the lyrics i just heard =) I bet 408 knows it =)
October 11th, 2008 at 7:09 am
thanks LMN I think 408 is still sleeping tho,he REALLY must have had a wild night.Dam no dog food BRB
October 11th, 2008 at 7:18 am
..testing?!
October 11th, 2008 at 7:19 am
…testing, 1, 2, 3.. testing.. shotgun!?
October 11th, 2008 at 7:20 am
ShawnRaiders81 Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Spidey your team and town is so boring your in a Raiders blog, get a life loser.
we will always be better than the broncos even if we never win a game again, more history and tradition here.
better than lame denver I don’t care what happens even John Elway knows Raider women are better…..
Blah…blah…blah…blah…you girlz sure like to talk but you never say anything that makes any sense.
October 11th, 2008 at 7:21 am
testing.. envy
October 11th, 2008 at 7:23 am
testing.. seems like i got the wrong leg out of the bed this morning..
October 11th, 2008 at 7:24 am
hmm why cant i post this..
4eva..
LOL, yeah, I guess 408 wishes he had a shotgun by his bed, when he wakes up =)
I was full of envy last night, reading how he blew off steam.. I was working last night :/
October 11th, 2008 at 7:42 am
I almost forgot.
I bought two large jars of orville redenbacher.
Its cheap and filling.
October 11th, 2008 at 7:43 am
[...] [Raiders] Raiders DE Derrick Burgess Unlikely To Play Vs Saints Its not looking good for Raiders DE Derrick Burgess with regard to playing against the New Orleans Saints Sunday at the Superdome. Burgess missed practice for the third straight day with a triceps injury and coach Tom Cable said the two-time Pro Bowl defensive would be seeking more medical advice. Cable said Burgess would be on the trip to New Orleans but it was doubtul he would play. Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
October 11th, 2008 at 8:21 am
blowing off steam is the thing 2do
October 11th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Andrews MOM!!
good to see ya, long time!
October 11th, 2008 at 8:31 am
hey LMN;408 is prolly yelling at the spider stomping his legs on the wall 2 keep it down!!!
October 11th, 2008 at 8:46 am
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80b7eb95&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
For the first time this season, the Raiders and Rams can focus on one thing only — winning a football game.
That is refreshing. That gives us a chance to see the best of exactly what are the Raiders and Rams.
Haslett gives a rare view of both situations.
Haslett began his pro coaching career as a Raiders linebackers coach in 1993.
“I love Al Davis,” Haslett said. “He understands the game. He may be a little demanding in some areas. And it’s a hard job working for Mr. Davis. He’s very demanding of the defense. He knows how he wants it run. He wants a defense that is quick and that can run. He wants an offense that throws the ball long.”
Davis wants Cable to do those things. And win.
October 11th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Cable said he wants his team playing at 100 miles per hour, not afraid to make mistakes. He is looking for receivers Javon Walker, Ronald Curry and Johnnie Lee Higgins to step boldly forward. He has stressed tempo in practices. He is openly talking about a playoff run in his team’s final 12 games.
October 11th, 2008 at 8:51 am
…Post #94….Although we are likely to lose Sunday by double digits to the Saints, I don’t agree at all with your doom and gloom forcast for the U.S…..Evidence last night McCain actually defending Obama against his own campaign’s desperation inspired hate mongering….(The OLD John McCain’s ONE gracious moment of late…) Our GNP still smokes. Period….Democracy isn’t perfect, by any means, but it’s still the best system yet. By comparison, just look at the Raiders- ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY- this concept applies to both to the managing general partner,( with “toys in the attic” to boot…), and several obscenely overpaid ,unhappy millionaire players whom seem to be devoid of maturity, commitment or character.
October 11th, 2008 at 8:56 am
thanks K-Rock I didnt see that one;good post
October 11th, 2008 at 9:54 am
where everyone?????????????????????????
October 11th, 2008 at 9:59 am
must of followed 408s lead,everyone drunk-up or better
October 11th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Curious to see if there is any difference in who we will throw to Sunday. If Walker just catches his 2 balls and disappears or if he is acually a factor. we need to get the TE involved too if Troupe plays Miller can be more of reciever than blocker.
October 11th, 2008 at 10:11 am
The SAints throw deep down the middle or post routes it appears to me so i expect us to use alot of nickle coverage. Huff and Wilson can’t get sucked in too much to stop the run and fail to get back on play action.
October 11th, 2008 at 10:11 am
I agree Lynn From Snot,and I’m glad you posted I thought I was awone in the universe;the NATION is international and it was WAY 2 QUIET in here!!!
October 11th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Yeah i guess they’re in a no post zone
October 11th, 2008 at 10:24 am
and Brees is a very mobile QB and can throw off either leg.This was not something he developed in NFL.He used 2 drive the BIG 10 nuts on 3rd downs.Oh yes Brees is very cagey
October 11th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Javon Walker sucks. Davis should have let him quit when he wanted to. JLH should play the wideout, with Branch fielding kicks.
But we will lose because Rob Ryan never blitzes in the fourth quarter.
October 11th, 2008 at 10:26 am
I thought the Saints would have ran more last week but I think they’re in love with the long ball. That reminds me of someone Hmmm. The Vikings stopped them most of the game barring the returns for TDs.
October 11th, 2008 at 10:28 am
post 128 Kirk;absolutely
October 11th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Kirk I do nit agree we will loose,I agree about JLH he is the bomb!!!
October 11th, 2008 at 10:32 am
not sorry
October 11th, 2008 at 10:33 am
We are wearing down late in the game because the offense can’t get a first down when they need one . Only in the KC game did we keep the chains moving to run out the clock. The last 3 games we’ve taken leads into the 4th only to let up on both sides of the ball ,if that changes then and only then we will win.
October 11th, 2008 at 10:37 am
LFS,I think with Cable we will go 4 the jugular attack attack attack
October 11th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Now that JLH has learned to field the ball on KOs It’s time he moves on to being a deep threat as a reciever. While Miller can be our 3rd down go to guy. Now all we need is for Walker to show up for once.
October 11th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Sunday will be a good test of where this team is at and where it’s going
October 11th, 2008 at 10:45 am
4 the sake of the NATION,I hope I’ve been wrong about the donkey.If he’s finally ready{I wont go there}he BETTER DO THE NATION PROUD.I have as much patience as anyone,but this is ridiculous
October 11th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Thomas Frekkin Howard this game is built 4 you!!!Stop R.Bush and you become a superstar,which you Truely are.MAN-O-MAN come on T
October 11th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Thomas Howard wears #53 PROUD
October 11th, 2008 at 11:02 am
this blog used to be filled with intelligent comments from long time dedicated fans who were open to criticism of coach and owner.
NOW its run by juvenille ignorance….CABLE is BUGEL
enough said..later NATION
October 11th, 2008 at 11:04 am
If He ain’t going to solute our nations flag then F-Him. If you disagree with this take you are a staight out dumb sh*t “a sheep to the slaughter”
Men have sacrificed blood for the philosiphy of freedom and this Barack has no respect for that! he will be dead within the first term!
re: our Raiders just let us have some cohesion!
October 11th, 2008 at 11:06 am
post 136 stated;We will see tommorrow,Big E
October 11th, 2008 at 11:23 am
The sun is shining and the temperature is in the mid seventies here in Ohio. Life is good.
The dawn of a new Raider era is almost upon us. Sunday will either be the beginning of the Raiders return to excellence or the beginning of a downward spiral that will make the current economy seem stable.
Ever the eternal Raider optimist, I predict the former. The defense has done well against the run. J. Russ has been avoiding the typical rookie mistakes and meltdowns. We have talent and depth at most of the skill positions. We have a coach that knows his place.
Raiders 33 – Saints 17
October 11th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Marv Hubbard Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 11th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Random memories from the Raiders past:
Best hit I’ve ever seen:
1972 playoff Steelers vs. Raiders (immaculate reception game). The Steelers were holding on to a tenuous 6 – 0 lead late in the third quarter. On a fourth and one at around midfield, the Steelers elect to go for it. Everyone in Three Rivers Stadium including the Raiders expected Franco Harris to get the call. Steelers snap the ball, Bradshaw hands off to Harris, BOOM, Jack Tatum comes up to the line of scrimmage and plants a helmet to helmet collision that sent Harris straight to the ground. You could hear the collision all the way in Niles, Ohio (where I was watching the game on TV). There was no lunge forward, there was no struggle for extra inches. It was as if Harris had rammed his head into a brick wall and just slid straight down. All for naught, unfortunately.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:37 am
4eva the eternal optimist Marv
October 11th, 2008 at 11:38 am
myself Marv sorry
October 11th, 2008 at 11:46 am
I was watching that game myself Marv and KNEW we had it.Everyone knows by the trajectory of the ball it hit the ground
October 11th, 2008 at 11:47 am
4evaRaider:
I feel sorry for the doom and gloom crowd. What is it like for them to always expect the worse and rarely be dissapointed?
I prefer to look at the positives. I will admit that 2006 was a challenge, even for me.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:47 am
I was 14
October 11th, 2008 at 11:50 am
I think that the officials were of the mindset that if they called the play back, they would not make it out of the stadium alive.
Steeler fans were downright scary back then. Remember Bob Moore, the Raiders starting tight end at the time getting beat up by stadium security the day before?
October 11th, 2008 at 11:51 am
“yowhats up this tajai from the mighty souls of mischief”
October 11th, 2008 at 11:52 am
whatever happen to danny clark, last time I saw him, he was in a saints uniform
October 11th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Marv we have been truely tested thats 4 sure.But NEVER,NEVER have I ever thought about leaving.This is my parents,this is my child,you are all my brothers,and that is the way it is.2 be TOTALLY OPTIMISTIC in these times is to be ONE.WE are one Marv,and all the true believers!!! RAIDER ON!!!
October 11th, 2008 at 11:53 am
I was 17.
I was waiting to walk out the door to go to work at the end of that game. I had my car keys in my hand. After the ruling, I threw my keys against the TV so hard, they chipped the screen.
I feigned ignorance as to what caused the chip for years.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:54 am
wow marv that was the best play play description ever…what a way with words
October 11th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
I was so mad;you could cleary see.This is just here-say,but a good friend was in MAUI and ran into Franco.When asked if he caught ball,Franco wouldnt answer.I saw a tv show on it and the refs were afraid 2 call it back
October 11th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Vilapiano played a hella game
October 11th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
The Tuck game was just s painful because we’ve been down for a while and looked like we were going finally get back to winning again . That game was the begining of the end.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Phil Villapiano was the epitome of Raider toughness.
I remember watching him in a Superstars competition back in 75? He was going toe to toe with OJ Simpson in the clean and jerk (he he, I said jerk). OJ had the form down to a science. Phil just brute forced his press. OJ won but Phil came in second. As I recall he straight pressed 225 pounds which was close to his weight.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Vilapiano=tough Ohio kid!!!
October 11th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
I’ve stated b4 we have the personell 2 b a 3-4.Speed is our strength.Marv like you said Vil weighed only 225 but played much bigger.Its scary,I think our LBs are better now,all we need is a true MLB or a commitment to the 3-4
October 11th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
K-Rock — That was a great quote by Haslett, and it goes right to the heart of why Kiffin needed to leave (besides the high school gossip stuff, etc)…
——–
Haslett began his pro coaching career as a Raiders linebackers coach in 1993.
“I love Al Davis,” Haslett said. “He understands the game. He may be a little demanding in some areas. And it’s a hard job working for Mr. Davis. He’s very demanding of the defense. He knows how he wants it run. He wants a defense that is quick and that can run. He wants an offense that throws the ball long.”
———————–
If a HC does’t think he can win with the same philosophies, then said coach shouldn’t take the job in the first place.
We have a QB with one of the strongest arms in the league — it’s time to use it (hey, what are we gonna do, lose some more?). One of the best arms in the league? And is it connected to the proper brain? We’ll find out, finally.
Javon Walker and the other WR’s could’ve and should’ve been used more all along — it’s very likely that Kiffin was holding Javon back, even when he was ready to play (Javon has nothing good to say about the guy). If Walker is NOT ready to contribute on game day, then Cable needs to have the ballz Kiff lacked — and USE other receivers (not just stick ‘em on the field), no matter what their experience level is.
The defense will be immensely better if DeAngelo Hall gets over his anxieties and starts to press more. Chance of a big play going over him? Yeah. Chance of making his own big play comes with it, though. Bumps and bruises aside — time to man up, DeAngelo, re-establish yourself as a top player.
Drew Brees is only human — a pressure defense can/will cause him and his offense to make mistakes. The ball will be flying around enough to grab a few, that’s for sure. The D needs to heed the advice of the Saints defensive-minded former HC Haslett, and use their speed to apply heat — all over the field.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
At the beginning of 1976, we lost three out of four of our starting D-line. The Raiders switched to a 3 -4 with Sistrunk, Matuzak (picked up from Houston), Rowe (Cardinals?), backed up by Millen, Hendricks, Villapiano, and Rod Martin (I think). We ended up winning the Super Bowl.
Oh good lord, I have completely reverted to living in the past.
As much as I like the 3 – 4 defense, it has been a challenge for us to come up with three quality LB’s let alone four. Isn’t the 3 – 4 Rob’s preferred scheme?
October 11th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
HayesDaze#37
I agree in regards to J’Russ. When even the most ardent fans are writing “we have the personnel to finish 8 – 8″, its time to think about our future and let the kid take his lumps.
As you said, worse that will happen is we lose some more games.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Marv I dont know if its RR scheme.Please believe me when I say this:We have THE BEST LBs in NFL!!!A true NT or MLB will put us over thed top.Rod Martin had 3 interceptions in that SB,thats why I’m so high on Thomas Howard,he wears #53
October 11th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Good idea…comparing this squad to our ’70s team. Because our ’70s team also hit a 5 run stretch losing 61 games, so obviously there’s a huge similarity. My god, you guys are such geniuses!
October 11th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
BTW that is a SB record by a LB thank-you very much!!!
October 11th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Marv — The only way RR’s defense ever makes it to an elite level, is with a beast in the middle. As much as I dislike the guy — a Ray Lewis type (on the filed) is exactly what this team needs. Great guy Kirk Morrison has his moments — but we need a LB whose moments are all-game long, and who demands his teammates step up their game in a violent, yet legal, way.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Al Davis’s record as a GM is 20-64 since the great Gruden blunder blew up in his face. The last thing we need is someone who praises Al Davis, HayesDayez. No thinks on Hasslet.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
“No thanks on Haslett”, I meant to say, not “no thinks”
October 11th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
remembering daze while you still sh:t your pants Maloso
October 11th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Nice comparison between our modern defense and our ‘83 defense, 4evaRaider. I remember that ‘83 squad getting torched like we did in week one against Denver, and blowing leads like we did against Buffalo and SD, and pretty much all of last year. My god, where do you guys get this football brilliance?
October 11th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
The “doom and gloom” crowd. LOL. That’s rich. I’d rather be “doom and gloom” than be certifiably insane and start comparing this team to our ’70s and ’80s teams. You kids are too much.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Maloso;I believe our D of 2day can be better than 83D.We got WAY more speed,we just need a true MLB
October 11th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Maloso,I’ll take our 3 LBs and a TRUE MLB
October 11th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Maloso,
First, I was referring to the 76 squad, not the 83 squad.
Second, chill. Remember, we are going to be 1 – 0 after Sunday.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
One thing about the 80-81 team the beat the Eagles in the Superbown and the 83 Superbowl champs was that they were not a great team starting off the season but at some point the light went on and they became suddenly solid. I hope that this team can do the same thing.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Matt Millen is available. I will take him at 55 (?) over the backup LB’s on our roster.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
MM — Take out his praise of AL, then. Any HC who comes in here knows what he’s getting into. Whining about the differences in philosophy after you’ve $igned a multi-million dollar contract is no way to be a head coach — Kiffin should be made to pay back AL for what he took from him!
20-61? What’s that except old news due to a bunch of mistakes? THIS team is 1-3, had a few chances to be better than that, and still has a chance to improve more than any team since Gruden skipped town.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Exellent post 178 Raiderkoolaid!!!
October 11th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Maloso,
Also, thanks for calling me a kid. I haven’t been carded since 76. At 53 I will take what I can get.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
I just turned 50 this past sunday
October 11th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
thats right they had my BD off
October 11th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
8-8 at the end of the year? Now, that would be some kind of achievement.
I’d “just” like to see Cable get this team to play at least .500 ball from here on out — that would be an achievement of its own, and should earn him a contract.
October 11th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
agreed HD37
October 11th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
4evaRaider:
50 is the new 30 … which means that 30 is the new 10 and 70 is the new 50 … whatever.
Its 4:00 PM EST. Time to go party which for us 50 + crowd means dinner, maybe bowling, maybe rent a DVD … jeez I’m old.
October 11th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
You’re NEVER 2 old Marv
October 11th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
4evaRaider:
Never too old, just too tired.
October 11th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Time can be burdensome,you just need a pick me-up,mental-wise
October 11th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
One last blast from the past.
Best pass:
1980, Pastorini out with broken leg. Monday night game, Steelers vs. Raiders. With Plunkett starting I have all but given up on the season. Raiders on third and long. All I see is a mass of Steelers and Raiders jerseys when all of a sudden a football comes shooting out of the middle. WTF?? Next thing I see is Branch streaking down the sideline hauling in a perfect bomb from Plunkett for a TD. A new beginning.
This Sunday will be a new beginning.
October 11th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Marv its funny you should say that.Cliff Branch WOW!!! I swear JLH is the 2nd comming of Branch.JLH will be streaking 4 6 many times!!!!!!!!!!!!Jmac+JLH=Best Ever imho
October 11th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
From one old RAIDER fart to my fellow old RAIDER farts, keep up the positive posts, and “JUST WIN BABY!”
October 11th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Dear Marv Hubbard Rules,
In 1976 the Raider linebackers besides Ted Hendricks and Phil Villapiano were Monte Johnson and Willie Hall.
Rod Martin and Matt Millen would arrive later.
October 11th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
thank-you Charles Oakey clarifacation is Always wanted and needed!!!Sometimes we get carried away YA KNOW
October 11th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Marv Hubbard rules…Bo Jackson steamrolling Mike Harden of the Broncos may be runner-up to the stop on Franco Harris…….
………..Higgins can get open & catch the ball………I wonder how long it will take for him to assume a starting role ?……..
October 11th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
……..If we win……..Mike Bush will out play Reggie Bush, Kalimba will have 2 plus sacks…..
October 11th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
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