Eugene will challenge Huff
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 15th, 2008 at 4:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Quick hits from Wednesday’s interview sessions and post-practice press briefing from coach Tom Cable:
– A second consecutive poor game from free safety Michael Huff has put his status as an unquestioned starter in peril five games into the season.
“We’re going to create some competition for Michael and give Hiram Eugene an opportunity to go out and press him a little bit, and see if we can’t bring the best out of either one of those guys,” Cable said.
Eugene started five games in place of a struggling Stuart Schweigert at free safety last season while Huff was the strong safety. He had some of the same problems Schweigert did in terms of open-field tackling.
`The main thing is that we’re going to try to do a little competition thing as far as the free safety thing,” Eugene said. “Just kind of shake things up a little bit and see how it works. I’m just grateful for the opportunity for whatever they decide to go, as far as if I start, the playing time, it doesn’t even matter.
“I’m going to prepare like I prepare every week, like I’m going to play anyway, or start. I’m pretty sure that Mike is going to do the same.”
Eugene said he learned from his five-game trial run last season.
“Well, my main thing was angling, taking the angles on the tackles and bringing the guy down in the open field,” Eugene said. “That’s what I tried to improve on the most because I know that was my (weakness).”
Huff has started all 37 games since being the No. 7 overall pick of the 2006 draft out of Texas in 2006. He has one interception and one forced fumble. Huff was as invisible in the locker room Wednesday as he has been on the field of late.
– Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha can’t count on one hand the number of passes headed his way this season.
But he can do it with one hand and one additional finger.
Asomugha recounted one pass thrown at him in each game, with the exception of the Chiefs game, when there was two. Every week he talks himself into believing it will be the game where teams will come after him, and every week he’s wrong.
He writes all of it down in a spiral bound notebook he showed to reporters Wednesday.
“Don’t get lazy because they’re not throwing at you,” Asomugha wrote in his book, followed by reminders of what can happen if he happens to let his guard down for even a single play.
The Raiders have begun putting in Asomugha at safety in certain formations, as they used to do with Charles Woodson, hoping to get him some opportunities at interceptions. Asomugha had his breakout year with eight interceptions in 2006 and saw only 35 passes his way all last season, picking off one.
“Nam is a special guy,” Cable said. “He accepts that that’s the way it’s going to be but the minute people talk it up too much, all of a sudden someone says, ‘We’ll take that challenge. We’ll come after you.’ At some point it’s going to happen so you want to make sure he stays alert and stays focused on what he’s doing.”
Jets coach Eric Mangini said the low total of passes headed Asomugha’s way is a sign of respect, and that the reasons for leaving him alone are twofold _ one, because Asomugha is that good; and two, when quarterbacks do look his way, the receiver is usually covered and they go somewher else.
– No boot, no limits for running back Darren McFadden. His role Sunday against the Jets should be more like the Raiders envisioned in training camp.
“That was kind of the plan. That’s what we worked on in OTA, that’s what we worked on in fall camp so you want to continue to progress with that,” Cable said. “It has tied our hands a little bit but it’s nice to be getting him healthy so we can continue to get back on track that way.”
The Miami Dolphins, in particular, have had success using running back Ronnie Brown in the “Wildcat” formation as a shotgun quarterback who runs the option. The quarterbacks coach at Miami is David Lee, who installed it at Arkansas last year as the offensive coordinator for McFadden.
“When I was looking at it, I know where it was started, so it’s something you look at, you wish you were healthy so you can go out there and do the same thing,” McFadden said.
– Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell has avoided opportunities to run the ball but said he may be more daring in future games.
“If I time comes for me to run, I will,” Russell said. “Some of the times late in the game, I was trying to make a pass on the run. If it’s that time where I”ve got to keep the chains moving by myself while running, then I will.”
– Jets quarterback Brett Favre owned the Raiders as a member of the Green Bay Packers, with a 4-0 record a 61.7 completion percentage (79-for-128) for 1,188 yards, 11 touchdowns and four interceptions.
His last game in Oakland was the night after his father died suddenly in 2003, and he passes for 311 yards in the first half alone en route to a 22-for-30, 399-yard, 4-touchdown performance in a 41-7 win. When the Packers crushed the Raiders last year, Favre was 15-for-23 for 266 yards, two touchdowns and no picks.
Still, there’s the other side of Favre _ the one who occasionally delivers the turnover _ that the Raiders would love to see.
“He pulls it out of his hat but he also gives you a chance to make plays,” cornerback DeAngelo Hall said. “Brett’s the kind of guy, he’s got nothing to lose. He’s not playing for Pro Bowls, he’s not playing for money, he’s just out there having fun and those are the scariest guys. He can go out there any time, throw a pick to the house or throw a 60-yard bomb so he’s a guy we definitely got to keep contained.”
– Fullback Oren O’Neal was in the locker room on crutches and said his rehab is coming along fine. He said he was surprised to read Lane Kiffin’s comments after the surgery that it was a career-threatening injury.
“I talked to (team Doctor) King and didn’t say anything like that,” O’Neal said.
O’Neal said he hopes to be ready by training camp.
– Running back Justin Fargas was on board with the idea of Tim Brown joining the front office. Brown floated the idea Tuesday on Sacramento radio station KTHL (1140-AM).
“A guy like Tim Brown, with his experience, not just as a football player, but as a Raider and a member of this organization, that would be very valuable to us as players. His knowledge as a player and how things work here, I’m sure it would help.
“I don’t think we’re too far off. It’s just a matter of coming together as a team and getting things done on the field. There are a lot of distractions and different things around here but, overall, as a team, we do a good job of trying to focus on what we can control, focus on our work, because there are so many things that go around, after awhile you kind get numb to it, so you just have to focus on your work. I’m biased. I’d love to see Tim Brown around here a little bit more, interacting with us, because of the type of player he was and the type of person he is.”
– Defensive end Derrick Burgess (strained triceps) was the lone player who did not practice. Cable said Burgess is showing progress in his rehab and said the Raiders would know in a day or two if Sunday was a possibility.
Asomugha (elbow) and linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder) were limited, but Cable said both should play. Guard Robert Gallery and tight end Zach Miller were limited with what Cable called “bruises” but netiher was on the official injury report submitted to the NFL.
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October 15th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
1st
October 15th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
GOOD! he needs to wake up. He has been looking like Stu did for the past few years there.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
put javon the walker in the 3 spot and give a rookie some time. our seasons over anyways
October 15th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Nice, it looks liek the game will be on TV in San Diego…
October 15th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Cruzin Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Nice, it looks liek the game will be on TV in San Diego…
Until the 3rd Qtr.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I was thinkin the same thing. I’d rather see Tyvon Branch back there hitting people.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
This is a bad sign if Eugene may start. Hopefully, Huff can step it up.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
It would be nice if Aso would be more of a vocal leader. that could help the Raiders salvage something out of this season. http://www.examiner.com/x-514-Oakland-Raiders-Examiner~y2008m10d15-How-the-Oakland-Raiders-can-salvage-their-season
October 15th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Maybe Javon can play FS? What a waste of money.
Give Branch a shot. It’s a guarantee that he will do better than Huff.
Which genius decided that Huff was worth a 1st round pick?
October 15th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Patrick, Huff just doesnt have the instinct. Eugene is not an upgrade either. I hope putting Nnamdi back there will be great. I have a hunch they go with Routt, Hall, Johnson, wilson and Nnamdi.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
maybe the problem isn’t the players at FS,but the position their put in due to our incompetent def cord!
October 15th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
I think Eugene will eventually take over by the end of the year, and hopefully Branch next year. Huff simply isn’t a playmaker, and for whatever reason always seems a step behind.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Another aspect to Art’s legacy…
It would have been nice to pick up a quality starter with that pick…
Who did we miss out on?
October 15th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
you all know him-the coach who should have been fired long ago-Rob kiss ass Ryan.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Looks like Huff was a mistake as a #7 overall pick.
Especially considering Jay Cutler could’ve been the pick for the Raiders in 2006…With our QB situation solved, our pick in 2007=Calvin Johnson or Adrien Petersen…QB, Cutler/WR, Johnson/RB, McFadden.
would all be starting for the Raiders today.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Good DB’s seem to be able to show the instincts of anticipation. I have never seen Huff put a good wood on anyone. maybe one day he wakes up and the lights go off like Nnamdi but even when Nnamdi was young he was able to get a good hit here and there.
I am not a Eugene fan. Tyvon is just too green although he can for sure. I know this would never happen but can they sign Lynch to SS and put Wilson back there to FS?
October 15th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
FINALLY!! Huff is absolutely terrible. Has been since day 1. However, Eugene isn’t much better. I agree, give Tyvon a shot. He already has one more interception than Huff the bust!!
October 15th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
I predict Tyvonn Branch will eventually settle in as our starting FS. It may not happen this season, but look out next year.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
808 Raidah, if we got Cutler. We would not be in positions to take the other players. We would have won at least a few more games the last few years and never have a shot at a top 5 draft pick. Petersen alone could easily count for 2 wins.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
He played both with the Giants.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
art convinced al to draft huff… he hasnt listened to his coaches since… i blame art for this..jk..but seriously
October 15th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
– Yikes. I know Huff hasn’t been great, but is he really in danger of falling below Eugene on the depth chart?
– Gee, we have one corner completely shutting down his man all game to the point that essentially no passes are thrown his way. You’d think Rob-O could come up with a defense to take advantage of that fact and bait the QB into throwing some picks to a safety/LB when they’re obviously going in Hall’s direction.
And where are Morrison and Howard this year?
– McFadden needs to start and get at least 2/3 of the carries. I like that Fargas runs hard and is a good team guy, but you don’t leave your brand-new Ferrari sitting in the garage in favor of your old Jeep, when it counts. Maybe they were just waiting for McFadden to heal up. I know he wasn’t himself for a few games.
– Schilens should start. Watkins deserves a shot as well.
– I like what I see out of Trevor Scott. He hasn’t done much of note, but he has a really good burst off the line. Remember, Jared Allen was an unknown out of Idaho who was drafted as a long-snapper. Scott is nowhere near that but I could see him developing into something if he can bulk up and retain his quickness.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
AlisGod:
Maybe…I think we would’ve had a shot at Petersen went to Minnesota.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
808raidah Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
I predict Tyvonn Branch will eventually settle in as our starting FS. It may not happen this season, but look out next year.
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damn! Tyvon is sooooo good! Once he gets his fundamanetals and reads down, look out!
They talk about “football speed” man, has this guy got it!
Can’t wait to see him with the cast off his hand finally.
Eugene has laid a few solid hits, but coverage is a factor.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
808raidah Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
AlisGod:
Maybe…I think we would’ve had a shot at Petersen went to Minnesota.
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Wasn’t Peterson’s injury history a concern? Minnesota took a flyer I think…
Peterson likely would NOT have performed as weel for Oakland because we didn’t have Steve Hutchinson and 2 other Pro bowlers blocking for him.
Look what happened to Alexander when Hutch left.
DMC will do nicely me thinks…
October 15th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Jerry nice read
October 15th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Nnamdi, i can’t get the pic of Eugene getting ran over by R Brown in Miami last year out of my mind. That was brutal.
If there ever was 1 time where Al D was right about speed, it is this guy. On kickoff, he seems to be going twice as fast as other people.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
I feel sad for Huff and the Raiders. Man, what a serious drag!!!
Wilson is seriously good. Doesn’t mind stickin’ his nose in against the run at all.
Great sign.
I’d like to see Stan Routt take over and dump worthless Hall to Nickle and yeah, I’m serious…
October 15th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Nnamdi21 – Post 68
Nice observation. Good post. No point in revisionist history here. Huff is what he is. AS bad as Huff has played, at least we didn’t give him the ton of money we gave to deAngelo Hall.
You know I would ask deAngelo how he feels about Nnamdi getting no passes thrown his direction and what he could do in his play to change this situation
October 15th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Also, Nnamdi should let deAngelo borrow his notebook to study.
TO THINK WE WILL PROBABLY LOSE THIS GUY MAKES ME SICK!!!!!!
October 15th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
When you think about it, we got some really decent prospects in the last three drafts. Nobody is going to the Pro Bowl right now, but some of these guys have real potential, IMO.
OFFENSE
JaMarcus
McFadden
M. Bush
Z. Miller
Schillens
Shields
Oren O’Neal
Higgins
DEFENSE
Richardson
Branch
Scott
(Obviously the defense is lighter, but that’s because we essentially used draft picks on D-Hall and Warren, plus had entrenched young defenders in Morrison, Howard, Huff and Nnamdi).
Basically, I’m saying that we finally have some good, or at worst decent players through the draft. Which is cool.
As bad as the final score of the Saints game was, I don’t feel like this team is among the worst in the league. I’ve watched a lot of games on the Sunday Ticket this season. And I think we’re somewhere in the middle of the pack in terms of overall talent and execution. We’re probably on par with teams like the Jets, Browns, Ravens, Vikings, Bills and Brady-less Patriots. Definitely ahead of the Rams, Lions, 49ers, Seahawks and Chiefs. And as soon as JaMarcus “gets it” we’ll be competing with the upper echelon.
October 15th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
AlisGod Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Nnamdi, i can’t get the pic of Eugene getting ran over by R Brown in Miami last year out of my mind. That was brutal.
If there ever was 1 time where Al D was right about speed, it is this guy. On kickoff, he seems to be going twice as fast as other people.
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Mmm, that was B.J. Ward that got bowled by Ronnie Brown.
October 15th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
JaMarcus and McFadden will be outperforming Cutler and Peterson by the 2010 season, if not sooner.
October 15th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
S&B Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Also, Nnamdi should let deAngelo borrow his notebook to study.
TO THINK WE WILL PROBABLY LOSE THIS GUY MAKES ME SICK!!!!!!
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Might’ve been Jerry during the live stuff or an article by Steve Corcran, but they stated, and I belive correctly, there is NO WAY Aso, gets away from us.
Franchise tag again? Maybe…but I think he’s the corner ( no pun intended…) stone of our D.
October 15th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
I’d take Rich Gannon over Tim Brown in a front-office position in a heartbeat. Nothing against Tim Brown, he will always be a great Raider. But listening to Rich Gannon on the CBS telecasts, this guy really knows his stuff.
Seth
Raider Fan Since 1982
‘In Lane I Trusted’
October 15th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
I got a good one! Who gets an extention until Dec 16 for sentecing! lol
October 15th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Seth..
I agree
October 15th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Lane Kiffin “I’m In”-SANE
October 15th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Seth Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
I’d take Rich Gannon over Tim Brown in a front-office position in a heartbeat. Nothing against Tim Brown, he will always be a great Raider. But listening to Rich Gannon on the CBS telecasts, this guy really knows his stuff.
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Gannon’s a bitter, bitter man.
Can you imagine his legacy if he’d won us a Super bowl?
He can…
October 15th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
- Good thing we got rid of Kiffin, who was always calling out players in the media. The next head coach would never do such a thing.
D’oh!
- Kiffin: you were fired because you signed off on all these players and then tried to say you didn’t want them in the first place. Al, on the other hand, obviously never signed off on Michael Huff over Leinart. Art Shell must have knocked him out during the first round that year.
October 15th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
El Dirty..
Cool, then you have few days to get over the hangovers..
will you miss the Playoffs?
October 15th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
LMN
Only if the Raiders miss em
October 15th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
yo Dirty what happend bro?
October 15th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Got an extension until Dec 16
October 15th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
yeah, what did you allegedly do?
October 15th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
420
Got into a fight
October 15th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Hopefully is was something like kicked the face in of some little punk of a Charger fan. They are real quick to run their mouths and then when it is time to get down they try to sucker punch you and get their friends to help out.
October 15th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Einstein..
I think you missed it, it brien who is the racist here..
October 15th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Kool Keel, agreed, especially over Football. Even the northern Cali vs. Southern Cali, gets out of hand. I believe one of the brawls at the home opener was Raider Fans fighting other Raider Fans.
October 15th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
LMN did you ever listen to track #3 on my hyper link????
October 15th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
408..
yeah I think so..
October 15th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
A couple things, first, while Huff may be a bust, that draft was full of them, check it out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NFL_Draft#Round_one). Also, we got unlucky with Gallery. All the pundits thought it was a great pick – best olineman in draft, proven in big 10, etc, etc.. Same as Joe Thomas/Long. Cle/Mia get probowlers, we get good guard, thru no fault of Raiders in my estimation.
Real problem is salary cap. We have to overpay to get players that might be good, let alone huge salaries to rookies. Can Raiders even afford to sign Nnamdi or Burgess. How much of our cap goes to Javon/MeAngelo/JRuss/Huff/McFadden? We can’t get depth b/c we have to pay so much while taking big chances…
Next year I suggest best olineman/def end on the board.
October 15th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Every 2-bit teenaged queen wants to be a tough-guy these days.
October 15th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
1 Nation No set tripping with my Brethren but its 408 on mine…
Oh yeah FREE DIRTY!
October 15th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Eek-A-mouse rules!!!
October 15th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
He might of been a Charger fan it was in San Diego
October 15th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
LMN,
Wish you could see the debate tonight over a few beers. Obama’s opponent is a cartoon caricature of everything
wrong in America
October 15th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
408..
post 55, nope or maybe, i asked you if i had listen to the right one, and i asked you what the name of the song was..
October 15th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
ohh McCain gives hands this time!?
October 15th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
LMN
Ganja Smuggling by Eek-A-Mouse…
October 15th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Its entertaining to me also…
October 15th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
408.. yup heard that one, i liked shipping up to boston better =) reminded me of Heavy version of ‘Big & Rich’
October 15th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
I need the Raiders to cut ticket prices, Senator Obama.
lol
October 15th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Rich Gannon knows his stuff, he just never bought into the Raider way. He wanted the team to be run like basic training, not like the Hell’s Angels at Mardi Gras. I think he would make a great QB coach, maybe even O-Coordinator or head coach, but it’s doubtful that happens in Oakland after his comments about the organization after Kiffin was fired.
It’s pretty obvious Tim Brown is blatantly pandering for a job with the Raiders this week. Maybe it’s for money, maybe it’s because he’s disappointed with the team’s nosedive. Who knows? But hasn’t he teed off on Al and the organization since he retired? I’m pretty sure he’s had some bitter comments in the past himself.
October 15th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Joe the plubmer
Muhahaha.. good one =)
its like watching the raiders vs saints… raiders is the old white male..
October 15th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
And I suspect the only reason he took a public swipe at Gannon was to gain favor with Al, who was likely irritated by Gannon’s criticism.
October 15th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
LMN
Right on..
If you go to playlist.com you can make your own there’s alot of songs available and its free… Check it out..
October 15th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Joe the plubmer
Muhahaha.. good one =)
its like watching the raiders vs saints… raiders is the old white male..
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Hey, what does this symbol stand for =)?
October 15th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Chris
So are you for or against Timmy coming on board to help out? I Say Bring him in cuz it cant get worse @ this point plus I’m a big Timmy guy…
October 15th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Obama wins the power tie contest…
October 15th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
408,
Brown was a great receiver, no doubt. Best in Raiders history in my mind.
I don’t really have an opinion one way or the other if Brown is hired for the front office. I really have no idea if he can evaluate talent or not.
October 15th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
joe the plumber..
its a big grin.. =)
October 15th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Thanks for the info, LMN.
Teach me more. lol
October 15th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Wow Mccain is boasting about the cardinals win over the cowgirls. As good as it gets. lol
October 15th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
chris
your right we dont know about Timmy… I’m just saying might as well give him a shot Big Al might even Listen to him….
October 15th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Is it just me or does McCain look like a tard? Dude has a huge Dome… Maybe its just because he’s going bald.. He keeps interrupting Obama also..
October 15th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Mccain looks like a bust on Mount Rushmore! lol lol
October 15th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Joe The Plumber..
of course he does, his littlebrother is pictured on Mt Rushmore..
October 15th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
LoL..
McCain is talking about all that he things he wants to give the people, but he still claims he will relief for taxes..
October 15th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Gahahahha..
my Boss just joined me.. he said if McCain wins, we would get bigger salaries.. because we do so much work for the americans, we would get a lot more work with McCain behind the table..
October 15th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
LMN, I like that one =) You see, I’m learning already! lol
October 15th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
hehe LoL
October 15th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
While, I’m popular tonight. Maybe I’ll be on Leno or Letterman next. lol
October 15th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Joe the Plumber..
I’m quite sure you’ll make a cameo on Jon Stewart and Colbert Report =)
October 15th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Or maybe the new D.L. Hughley show appearing on CNN October 25.
October 15th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
obama = maccain both do the bidding of the same power.
October 15th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Whoever is “selected” as “president” will have zero impact on the direction the US, and the world takes.
President of the USA = talking head.
October 15th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
President = Fall guy for what ails the USA
October 15th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Eugene isn’t the answer. He was worse than Scweigert last year but was kept because he was cheaper. This is another AD draft pick that went awry.
October 15th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
I know this has nothing to do with the debates but Chris Mimms found dead at 38.
By the way, LMN you make me sick.
Go Raiders!
October 15th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Chris mimms the hoop player?
October 15th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Chris Simms?
October 15th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Mr Comer..
Oh, sorry you feel that way about me :/
October 15th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
the football player for the chargers. not much info
October 15th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Mr Comer..
Oh, sorry you feel that way about me
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LMN, let me guess, is that a frown?
October 15th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
yup =)
October 15th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Mr Comer..
Oh, sorry you feel that way about me :/
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LMN, let me guess, is that a frown?
October 15th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
still, yup =)
October 15th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
LMN, we need you here reforming our school system =)
You seem to be a good teacher =)
October 15th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
I’d start with your health system (or lack of it)
Healthy kids learn better and faster than sick ones, it will pay off later on =)
October 15th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Yeah, and healthy workers perform better than sick ones, also. I like your style, LMN. Have you ever thought about getting involved in politics? Or you wouldn’t dare associate with all of those criminals =)
October 15th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Id love to.. and i have been, we have several parties here, so its more interesting..
But I don’t like to be ‘The Face’ not just because i’m dead ugly, but i don’t like to be the guy infront.. I rather be the guy wispering things in the ear of ‘The Face’/'guy/girl in front’.. Like Karl Rove, just not from the Dark Side.. =)
October 15th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Tim Brown for President and Gm of the Raiders,frig gannon,NOBODY would know his crying ass name if AL didnt pick him up!Raiders!!!!!!!!!
October 15th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
*cough* Gruden picked him up..
October 15th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
My friends, I’m going to give you some straight talk. Al Davis is ruining this nation. His fundamental practices over the last twenty years have been an embarrassment. I love this nation, but I can no longer sit by and watch one man tear it apart. That is why, when I am President, I will work to have Mr. Davis removed from his position where he has continually and recklessly managed the Oakland Raiders with the most heinous and irresponsible behavior. Hard working Americans like Joe the Plumber deserve better from their leaders. That’s why I say to you, Joe, you will be able to live and enjoy your football and beer on Sunday without the tyranny of an Al Davis.
October 15th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
LMG, here is where the ultimate hypocripsy of the Al haters.
Everybody says Al controls everything, which we can all agree to. But when bad things happen, it’s Al’s fault. But when something good happens ooohhhh it’s somebody else. Well Al still signed the check didnt he. If Gannon didnt work out do you think people would blame Gruden or Al?
October 15th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Post 112,who says?And,did gruden pay him? USA
October 15th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Willie, also, everyone forgot that in the middle of Gannon’s original contract, he decided to stay at home and asked for a reneg on his contract after a good year. After he got the new contract, he was not the same player. As good as he was for us during those years, he was never a Raider.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Tim Brown is just pissed at Gannon for yelling at him for all those dropped passes.
Hey Tim, you might have challenged Jerry Rice in receptions had you not taped all your fingers together you loser.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
JR is a fatass dumbass. Time to go to Tui.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Jim Harbaugh will save the day!
October 15th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
JaMarcus and McFadden will be outperforming Cutler and Peterson by the 2010 season, if not sooner.
Well you are 50% right … I would be surprised if JaMarcus is even starting or with the Raiders in 2010.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Post122 What did you say?JRUSS is the MAN,the SILVER and BLACK will put you on a slow jet home!
October 15th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Oakglenn,
I hope that’s a joke man. Listening to the “Start Walter” crazies is bad enough.
What’s next? Start Vince Evans. Start Donald Hollas.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
PFT says…
And, as to Madden, there’s speculation in some circles that he could be the mystery person to whom Al Davis was referring at his September 30 press conference, when Davis suggested hiring for the front office a “unique” candidate with local ties. It’s not much of a stretch to envision Madden returning to the Raiders to help rebuild a franchise that thrived so strongly during his decade as the team’s head coach.
That would be interesting if Madden and Tim Brown helped bring back the swagger to the Raaaiduhhs!
October 15th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
I see it’s comedy hour, K Rock. Madden working for Al Davis… Hilarious. Madden still has ulcers from his last stint there.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Somebody ask K Rock which “circles” he heard this in. I’m guessing it’s circles of voices in his head.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Hey stupid.
Can you read? It says PFT says…
I know that it might be hard for you, buy try reading more and typing less, moron.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
I firmly believe Andy Walter should start,…Iv seen nothing so far as to why you keep playing Jamarcus…Im for Andy!
October 15th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Phils in WS,..bfd.
October 15th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
I think the mystery person who Al has been talking about is none other than Jim Harbaugh, ex QB coach of the Raiders and current HC of Stanford, thus making him a “local guy”…he would be a great coach for the Raiders coz he is fiery but he has also traversed the politics of the organization…
He has nothing but respect for Davis and is thankful for Davis giving him his opportunity to coach…unlike that weasel Kiffin…
Also, he actually has NFL experience and Head Coaching experience…
October 15th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Dude,…Harbaugh has worked for Al,..which means he wont be the next coach,..nobody ever works for him twice unless he has no other job offers…(Shell)
October 15th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Norco…read Kamakami’s article in todays merc…
“Al Davis is a different story. Harbaugh’s first NFL coaching job was on the Raiders’ offensive staff in 2002-03. Harbaugh was an Al favorite then, and Harbaugh sure brightened up when I asked about the Raiders owner.
“I talk to Mr. Davis now and then,” Harbaugh said, adding that the last conversation came around draft time when Davis asked him about his former quarterback at the University of San Diego, Josh Johnson.
“I love talking to him. I consider him a mentor, and it was always special every time he would pull me aside with the Raiders or call me on the phone. He’s the best.
“Nobody can talk football like Mr. Davis. Every time I talk to him, I always glean something about football.”
October 15th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Norco here’s the link…http://www.mercurynews.com/raidersheadlines/ci_10721929?nclick_check=1
But I was thinking about this earlier than today…Al said a local guy, so everyone assumed he meant someone who had roots in the Bay Area…
October 15th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
norco…you say, “nobody ever works for him twice unless he has no other job offers” I assume you may be basing this on recent history coz the Raiders have had coaches come back other than Shell…Charlie Sumner was one if I remember right…Give me time and I am sure I’ll find you more…
October 15th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
i absolutely LOVE the fact that players hated rich gannon. teams need players AND coaches like that. gannon was obviously NOT an al davis guy, which suits me just fine.
October 15th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
“Jets coach Eric Mangini said the low total of passes headed Asomugha’s way is a sign of respect, and that the reasons for leaving him alone are twofold _ one, because Asomugha is that good; and two, when quarterbacks do look his way, the receiver is usually covered and they go somewher else.”
And three, DeAngelo Hall is so friggin’ overrated, and opposing receivers have been beating him like a drum all season.
Great story on Asomugha in ESPN.com’s Page 2: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=clemmons/081014
October 15th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
post 128,yes sir,Tom Flores,as a player and Head Coach
October 15th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Willie…thanks…
October 15th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Also norco…Jim Fassel, one time OC for the Raiders has interviewed numerous times for the HC position…for some reason, Al never bites…
October 15th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
terry robiskie…ex player, played a few seasons in Miami, then retired and ended up in Oakland for his first NFL coaching job…
October 15th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
ok fools jump on the bad typing ect but listen al is going to be al 36 yrs watching n knowing this idont count before age of 6 just what i know n remember al wont ever let go n pray its still in family we r different tim b wants to be when few else does read john madden is tired of travel guys hell even matt m al is tired just input would be a bonus.
October 15th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
wife typed that shes funny huh
October 15th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
man wanted roy williams wr lions but not that much who is this crabtree wr in college
October 15th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
WV…I can’t tell what you’re trying to say? Are you saying Al is Al and he isn’t going to change…and that if Tim Brown wants to come back and help, that would be great? Also, Madden doesn’t like traveling means…what? Sorry dude…can’t figure out what youre trying to say…
October 15th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Ok, I may be loaded on one too many Norcos tonight,..hey, my cross to bare,..anyway,..Im for Andy,…Andy Walter deserves a shot this sunday,…let Andy play dammit.
October 15th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Robert must have missed the part of my post that read,”unless he has no other job offers…”…have you heard Fassell getting any offers letely?
October 15th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Norco…he is currently working with the Ravens…he has worked steadily since leaving the Raiders…
As far as Walters…I agree that last Sunday, when the Raiders were clearly out of it, it couldn’t hurt to start Walters…but on the whole, Russell has to work his way thru all the mistakes…
October 15th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
crabtree has been tearing it up big time.. he’s with the texas tech raiders, they are ranked 25 in the polls right now
October 15th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Bingo!
# lefty12 Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
maybe the problem isn’t the players at FS,but the position their put in due to our incompetent def cord!
October 15th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Other than Al Davis there is ONLY one other constant the last 5 years….Robert Frickin Ryan!
Head coaches come and go and that schmuck keeps his job when his defense sucks year after year!
Tim Brown, your thoughts on Rob Ryan ?
October 15th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
So what’s up mistabrown? I like your take on things. Ryan sucks, the offense sucks, Kiffin sucks, Jamarcus sucks, the defense sucks, Davis sucks, the fans suck, Oakglenn sucks, the kickers suck, Cable sucks, the receivers suck, Lofton sucks, the stadium sucks, jeez you’re a real Raider fan mistabrown.
October 15th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Why does everyone, or at least alot of people, take the time to state: “in my opinion?” You’re writing it, aren’t you? Who else’s opinion would it be? Just asking…
October 16th, 2008 at 12:00 am
Immodest, you are right. In my opinion, mistabrown is the greatest Raider fan of them all. He hates everything about the Raiders, he sulks and says nothing of value, he wins hands down. In my opionion.
October 16th, 2008 at 12:10 am
MR: In my opinion, it is delightful that my opinion should be buttressed by your opinion. But this is only my opinion of your opinion, of course.
October 16th, 2008 at 12:16 am
mrs,please stfu,or move to niner country! night,RAIDER FANS! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 16th, 2008 at 12:30 am
MR: But surely you exaggerate on your previous opinion, (no,I’m not calling you Shirley). One would have to like SOMETHING about the Raiders in order to be a Raider fan, wouldn’t one, or otherwise why bother? Being a Raider fan is not the easiest of assignments at the moment, after all. We just need 3 wide recievers and a couple of lines, and we’ll be fine…
October 16th, 2008 at 12:48 am
The European stock markets are a bloodbath this morning, after the crashes on Wall Street and in Asia. Not that I have any money, it’s just interesting. I wonder how much stock Al Davis has? With Raider attendance inevitably going south, and no one able to buy gear anywhere, we may only be able to afford a 5th round pick, or maybe a couple of 7th rounders. A tough time to be rebuilding!
October 16th, 2008 at 5:28 am
I am happy to see Cable will be working some new players into the line up to see if improved play will result. So far free safety and wide receiver are targeted but I am sure other spots are being discussed.
Also, some good direct talk about how the Dline needs to disrupt passing timing. What was implied is that the line needs to do it without blitz help. Four guys need to disrupt.
The problem is we do not have enough talent on the Dline now. Drafting help is a huge priority.
Until then the guys that are here need to show up with maximum intensity.
October 16th, 2008 at 6:16 am
This defense is too talented to be this ineffective. Ryan is hamstrung by Davis or is just not that good as a cordinator
October 16th, 2008 at 6:25 am
So no news like King Davis was shopping Nnamdi to KC??
October 16th, 2008 at 6:33 am
Nap back with Vikings
October 16th, 2008 at 6:38 am
What are the odds that Walker and Curry sit out this week. The results would be the same on the stat sheet.
October 16th, 2008 at 6:52 am
The German Bundes Liga (best Soccer League in Germany) have made an analysis of Coach firings..
On avg if a team fires its Coach it results in two more defeats than previous year.. or loss of 6% more games..
They play 34 games a season.. makes one think why we suck so much more than other franchises..
Another thing, the best Danish player ever, Michael Laudrup, Coach of the 5th greatest team in Russia, the 3rd greatest in Moscow, he gets everything he wants..
“I want a new field” “We need another type of grass” “I want that Player” “I want to do it this way” Same answer each time, “Yes, Michael, what ever you say and need”..
If our last 12 coaches or what the number is today, had such a free rein I bet we wouldn’t suck as much either..
just something to think about…
October 16th, 2008 at 7:00 am
Al Davis and Rob Ryan are responsible for the plight of the Raiders. Davis for his poor drafting, and Ryan for his passive defense.
October 16th, 2008 at 7:16 am
For the last time; I DID NOT WANT TO DRAFT MARTY HUFF, ART SHELL MADE ME DO IT!
October 16th, 2008 at 7:18 am
It is time to get back to running the ball thats what we do best, forcing the pass just retards the devolopment of the offense. I believe in balance but it’s been run run run or pass pass pass. Set up the pass by sticking to the run then use play action but, the patience is not there to achieve that game plan. How about having a plan and sticking to it.
October 16th, 2008 at 7:22 am
I love Rob Ryan. He alone is the reason we have won 19 games in the last 5+ seasons!
October 16th, 2008 at 7:23 am
Al .. Huff sure looked like a playmaker in the championship game against USC. Thats the player I thought we would get ….sigh
October 16th, 2008 at 7:33 am
Snot,
Here’s a little secret; I don’t watch film of players actually playing in college, that is a waste of time. I only pay attention to the combine, and even there I only watch the 40 yard dash and the weigh in. I watch the weigh in to see how comfortable the guy is in his birthday suit. If a guy is confident while naked, I know he will be confident on the field. Now you know why I have so much success on draft day. Don’t tell anyone, it is our little secret snot.
P.S. I know I have said I wanted Mel Leinhart instead of Marty Huff, but I really wanted Jack Cutler, not Mel Leinhart. USC is overrated these days you know.
October 16th, 2008 at 7:49 am
In light of my recent rise to celebrity, I would also like to campaign for the GM position. I would like to start off by saying that Timmy is a brown noser and will bring more years of more of the same.
JOE THE PLUMBER for GM!
October 16th, 2008 at 8:06 am
Asomugha play FS? yes please! he’s a ballhawk, covers like a blanket and makes the open field tackles. Huff, Branch and Routt can compete for the CB spot opposite Hall.
I know this isn’t likely to happen …
so let’s hope Hiram has improved from last season. It’s safe to say that Huff hasn’t – even though he’s only had 5 games at the new position. How many years did we give Stu ???
October 16th, 2008 at 8:11 am
Oren O’Neal will be back. Kiffin tried to scare him. What a tool! He will be back here punishing guys next season..
Fargas wants Timmy. I’d like to have Mr. Brown on staff in any capacity! At the very least he and Lofton could provide JaMarcus with 2 reliable targets in practice. Tim can help mentor these young WR’s and tell Al Davis to give Watkins, Schilens and Higgins more playing time instead of Curry, Walker & Lelie. If Davis feels he can trust Tim – we’ll be in good shape
October 16th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Huff has had plenty of time to demonstrate that he just ain’t got it for the NFL level. Too bad, but true. He looks like he really doesn’t want to clobber anyone. And one interception?!, c’mon. Sadly, this is yet another draft bust, unless he turns it around dramatically, and soon.
And, Curry too, he looked so promising in years past and now injury-free and getting his real shot, is looking sub-par.
Let’s hope Russell and McFadden mature to full poyential, or else…we’re really screwed!
October 16th, 2008 at 8:25 am
not only their poyential, but their potential as well!
October 16th, 2008 at 8:29 am
Oren O’Neal will be back. Kiffin tried to scare him. What a tool! He will be back here punishing guys next season..
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What on earth do you talk about, he was a Kiffin pick, Kiffin raved about how he liked him..
I think you have a very selective mind..
October 16th, 2008 at 8:33 am
– Fullback Oren O’Neal was in the locker room on crutches and said his rehab is coming along fine. He said he was surprised to read Lane Kiffin’s comments after the surgery that it was a career-threatening injury.
“I talked to (team Doctor) King and didn’t say anything like that,” O’Neal said.
O’Neal said he hopes to be ready by training camp.
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LMN, i read the (above) article. did you?
October 16th, 2008 at 8:36 am
I would NOT let Nnamdi play safety, what have you been eating, he practical shuts off the one half of the field..
I always said Huff would be better CB than any of the safety positions, let him take the side opposite Nnamdi.. But I have very little faith in Hiram, my boy Branch is a better safety. Now Branch is without the cast so that makes him better, I like him over Hiram..
CB1 Nnamdi
CB2 Huff
SS Wilson
FS Branch
CB3 Hall (nickel)
October 16th, 2008 at 8:36 am
Maine, good points. How much potential does this team have? tons! whether they actually show on on gameday and meet our expectations is another story. Hopefully Cable proves he can motivate our players better than previous coaches have. It starts one game at a time. Cable made a bold prediction we would beat the Jets on Monday, did you catch that? I like the confidence and I’m glad McFadden is finally healthy. 3-4 weeks seemed like 8!
October 16th, 2008 at 8:41 am
no doubt Branch probably has more talent than Eugene. He’s a rookie though and he played corner in college. We basically drafted him for special teams… Eugene started 5 games last year, improved this offseason and has 2 years in the system
and you don’t pay a player 10 million per season to sit on the bench and come in for occasional obvious passing plays – especially if he leads the team in INT’s!
October 16th, 2008 at 8:44 am
LMN says “I would NOT let Nnamdi play safety, what have you been eating?”
From the article above …
The Raiders have begun putting in Asomugha at safety in certain formations, as they used to do with Charles Woodson, hoping to get him some opportunities at interceptions.
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It’s already happening smart guy! you really didn’t read the article did you? You don’t come here for Raider football, you come here to argue with people..
October 16th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Lane Kiffin’s comments after the surgery that it was a career-threatening injury.
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Okay then, what would Kiffin gain from scare him, i see it, if he did say it, as a way to say to the guy.. “you might not come back”, not “you will never come back” so OO was mentally ready for what could happen.. surgery like that alway has the possibility to end peoples career, even if its usually doesn’t..
And yes i read the article..
October 16th, 2008 at 8:49 am
RRS..
so because i don’t agree with the things JerryMac is reporting, i haven’t read it..
or what is you chain of thought..
October 16th, 2008 at 8:51 am
Rockstar,
What potential? We have no players with potential on the o-line or d-line. Our LBs are limited in run stopping. Half our secondary is a bust with Matt Huff and Dean Hall. We have some fast young WRs that can’t catch.
The only potential we have is at QB and RB and that just is not going to cut it.
Why did I let these coaches make me draft all these flops? Jim Herrera, get Mike Millen on the phone, pronto. We need a proven winner like Marv Millen around here!
October 16th, 2008 at 8:52 am
RRS..
I read this last night.. its over 16 hours old you know..
and who am I arguing with, it seems to me you are arguing, thats all fine with me..
pleas point out, my post in this thread where i argue.. except of course these ones with you.. =)
October 16th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Rob ryan don’t have the slightest clue as to utilize his players. How the hell can u look at huff when ur not giving ………damn what’s the freaking point!!! Never mind this sht blows big time
October 16th, 2008 at 9:03 am
so because i don’t agree with the things JerryMac is reporting, i haven’t read it..
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LMN, so you know for a fact that Nnamdi isn’t playing safety in games or practice? I find it hard to believe that you might know more about that than Jerry
October 16th, 2008 at 9:03 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 8:41 am
no doubt Branch probably has more talent than Eugene. He’s a rookie though and he played corner in college. We basically drafted him for special teams… Eugene started 5 games last year, improved this offseason and has 2 years in the system
and you don’t pay a player 10 million per season to sit on the bench and come in for occasional obvious passing plays – especially if he leads the team in INT’s!
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First, Kiffin said that within 3 years the plan was that Branch would be a starter.. yes he was drafted to the ST, but on long term they wanted him be a starter.. and he will be..
the last paragraph, i dont know if its Hall or Nnamdi you are talking about.. I assume Hall, BUT..
As i listed it Nnamdi wouldn’t be on the bench at all, Hall would, and this isn’t about the money, this is about making our team better, and keep Hall in just makes the field lopsided..
Hall would get more Int’s as a nickel, than now because then he can roam..
Lastly, Branch is already better than Hiram Eugene, he has INT’s even though he had the cast on, now he is cast-free, means even better
October 16th, 2008 at 9:05 am
LMN, so you know for a fact that Nnamdi isn’t playing safety in games or practice? I find it hard to believe that you might know more about that than Jerry
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Don’t be stupid, we all know you are not that stupid..
I didn’t say i knew what was going on, I said I didn’t agree with what is going on..
October 16th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Rob ryan don’t have the slightest clue as to utilize his players..
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DBW, i agree. RR needed to go when Kiffin was first hired, but of course Davis and others looked at the #1 ranked pass defense as a positive, when it was really a stat reflected because teams ran the ball down our throat, chewed up clock and didn’t have to pass – even on 3rd down! RR hasn’t done squat and this is his 5th year as DC. Yet we go through head coaches like dirty socks around here
October 16th, 2008 at 9:09 am
RSS..
you do know that there are a big difference between Agree and believe..
I believe almost every word JerryMac is reporting, if I don’t believe it, then its because its a quote from someone I don’t believe..
I BELIEVE the raiders are doing this, but I don’t AGREE with it.. I thinks its foolish, but almost all our defensive decisions have been foolish, so no surprise there..
October 16th, 2008 at 9:10 am
Regarding Branch,he is a big hitter and that was one reason he was drafted along with his speed.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:13 am
I don’t know who Branch would start in place of. Look at all the money we have locked up in Hall, Asomugha, Huff & Wilson. All are relatively young too. If Asomugha gets a long term deal this offseason that becomes even less likely. Routt is still here as a solid nickel.
I saw the signing of Branch as a replacement for Chris Carr. nothing more, nothing less. an extra db, st coverage guy & return man. he was a pretty solid corner in college though. should use him in dime packages instead of Chris Johnson
October 16th, 2008 at 9:14 am
i agree with posts 181 & 182
lmn & lynn ..
October 16th, 2008 at 9:16 am
fino =)
October 16th, 2008 at 9:17 am
If Hall was a nickel he didnt have to focus on the line, that would Wilson do, then he can do what he always does, stay a bit away and snag the ball..
I think he would be better that way..
October 16th, 2008 at 9:17 am
I like bread.
Give me a bath!
Fire Cable!
Fuq Marcus Allen!
October 16th, 2008 at 9:18 am
How’s ya mutha?
October 16th, 2008 at 9:21 am
instead of nickel, what if we used Hall at FS instead of Asomugha? that would make more sense. he’s known for sure tackling & ballhawking too. just get burnt more often than Phillip Buchanon
then Huff, Branch & Routt could compete for the CB spot opposite Nnamdi.
now that i know you weren’t disputing the facts, just weren’t happy with them makes things easier
October 16th, 2008 at 9:25 am
How about geting pressure on the QB that would fix everything thats wrong with this defense.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:26 am
RRS..
I could live with that =)
and you are totally right, then our money would be used better..
I don’t like the idea of Branch a CB, then it should be the nickel and let Huff get it.. As I said, I always saw Huff as a CB, not any kind of safety..
Routt and Branch would then battle it out in Nickel, and maybe they are better suited for different plays..
October 16th, 2008 at 9:27 am
Sad thing Buchanon was hopeless in Man2Man, so was Fabian, then they go to Cover 2 and they thrive.. Buchanon clearly has been TB’s best man..
October 16th, 2008 at 9:28 am
Cutler and Brees had clean jerseys at the end of the game tells you all you need to know
October 16th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Man to man is not Halls strong suit to say the least.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:30 am
CB1 Nnamdi
CB2 Huff
SS Wilson
SF Hall
CB3 Branch/Routt (nickel)
October 16th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Wade who? Phillips?
October 16th, 2008 at 9:31 am
I say we pull a SD and get rid of The Entire Offensive line, except for Cooper and start over again!
October 16th, 2008 at 9:31 am
# Lynn from Snot Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Man to man is not Halls strong suit to say the least.
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and we all knew it.. :/
October 16th, 2008 at 9:32 am
Lynn from Snot Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Wade who? Phillips?
Seriously? 5th Grade education I see.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:33 am
We shoud fire Lofton and bring in Timmy to coach the WR’s.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:33 am
We should fire Mark Tresman and bring in Gannon to coach to QB.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:34 am
We should fire Willie Brown and bring in Ronnie Lott to coach the DB’s.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:34 am
We should fire the Offensive line coach and bring in Tom Cable to coach the O Line!
October 16th, 2008 at 9:37 am
We should get rid of Keith Mallard as LB Coach and being in Mike Singletary!
October 16th, 2008 at 9:38 am
We should bring in a real defensive coordinator like Monte Kiffin to coach that D into shape.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:39 am
and last but not least, we should bring in Arnold “The Terminator” Swartchenhagger to do strength and conditioning.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Chaos..
Marc Trestman isnt here, but we sure as hell should get him
John Defilippo is our QB coach, I don’t like him, that much..
Marc Trestman, would an upgrade, because that man is intelligent.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Chaos 201
October 16th, 2008 at 9:40 am
victim of public scooling, lol
October 16th, 2008 at 9:41 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Chaos..
Marc Trestman isnt here, but we sure as hell should get him
John Defilippo is our QB coach, I don’t like him, that much..
Marc Trestman, would an upgrade, because that man is intelligent.
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My bad. I was dreamin. Ok then bring in Norm Chow.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:41 am
Gonnon is payed more now at cbs than he ever was as a player so I don’t see him come here at all..
October 16th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Gonnon?
October 16th, 2008 at 9:42 am
# Chaos Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 9:39 am
and last but not least, we should bring in Arnold “The Terminator” Swartchenhagger to do strength and conditioning.
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lol, good one, but have in mind all our players would get banned because illegal substance use..
October 16th, 2008 at 9:42 am
This is what I was alluding to:
The Roe v. Wade decision prompted national debate that continues today. Debated subjects include whether and to what extent abortion should be legal, who should decide the legality of abortion, what methods the Supreme Court should use in constitutional adjudication, and what the role should be of religious and moral views in the political sphere. Roe v. Wade reshaped national politics, dividing much of the nation into pro-Roe (mostly pro-choice) and anti-Roe (mostly pro-life) camps, and inspiring grassroots activism on both sides.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:43 am
Yeah I konw, I’m not Sara Palin
October 16th, 2008 at 9:43 am
LFS..
yeah come on you know gonnon, he was that dude who, oh well =)
October 16th, 2008 at 9:44 am
i agree with Lynn about the lack of pressure from the d-line. Look what the Giants have done with pressure. Makes life a whole lot easier for your db’s! I think the year Nnamdi had 8 INT’s was the year Burgess had 16 sacks and Sapp had 10, wasn’t it? Now (when healthy) teams double Burgess and the rest of the d-line can’t get there. Plus Ryan doesn’t blitz …
New D-Cord please!
October 16th, 2008 at 9:44 am
konw?????
Is that an abbreviation for something…..?
October 16th, 2008 at 9:44 am
now when 408, haven’t been present i’ll say it for him..
FREE DIRT!!!11
October 16th, 2008 at 9:45 am
dammit!!
Free DirtY!!
October 16th, 2008 at 9:46 am
who’s dirty?
Barry Bonds? Shawn Merriman?
October 16th, 2008 at 9:46 am
Mr Pain will be back. Yippee. Best news for a long, long time.
And how much have we missed his blocking ability. Griffith is a smart player but he doesn’t have O’Neal’s power. Mr Pain scares the wits out of linebackers, he is just relentless.
And a brilliant guy.
PS: Why don’t we try Huff at CB or as the Nickel. He played well at CB for Texas and maybe better suited by a man-marking role rather than something more complicated.
PPS: Apart from Howard, am I the only one who thinks that Morrison and Brown are not on their best form at the moment?
October 16th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Here it is boys and girls……..
Defensive pressure causes teams to think about play selection. They tend to go for shorter pass routes which causes them to do one of two things:
1. Streach the field with more WR’s or more deep routes, typically ending in incompletions.
2. Run the ball, of which, our Defensive line has been playing well against the run.
On the flip side, the offensive team needs to keep the clock management under control. Stop throwing the fukin ball downfield ( See comment 1 above) and see comment 2 on how to fix it.
It is simple football. You learn that playing in Mighty Might. God maybe we can send some of our coaches to school to learn how to call plays.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:48 am
why did Jarrod Cooper retire?
to pet the doggies in animal shelters? maybe he’s going to inject them with his roids to see what happens. crazy guard dogs! wooohaa!
October 16th, 2008 at 9:50 am
post 230 His tatoo washed off
October 16th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Lots of great ideas from everyone today. I can’t imagine a scenario where Rob Ryan returns next season. He is at the end of his contract, and I don’t think Al likes his scheme as much as people seem to think. Ryan has failed to improve this defense one iota since arriving 5 years ago, and for all of his decently schemed games, he has two or three complete failures. Robbo is a great D-coordinator, but I don’t think he embraces the Cover 0 bump-and-run that Al wants as our base D. Al needs to find a D-coordinator in the college ranks that plays a bump n run, if he insists on employing that defense. It is obvious that Ryan does not use the free-safety very well, everyone they have tried to plug-in there is burned. Ryan also doesn’t use a dominant CB very effeectively, as they are just avoided. While his LB’s have played well in some situations, they have lots of holes in their games. The D-line has been a joke during Rob’s tenure, period. If Al is serious about winning another Super Bowl in his lifetime, he needs to find a competent D-coordinator this off-season, who has a background in secondary coaching or playing.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Bart,
Don’t worry, I will get Ryne Ryan to sign a new contract as head coach of the defense before I hire a new head coach that wants to hire his own defensive coordinator.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Willie Shaw please come back
October 16th, 2008 at 9:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 9:46 am
who’s dirty?
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El Dirty… Raider Fan..
October 16th, 2008 at 9:59 am
BART Bridge Brigade Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Lots of great ideas from everyone today. I can’t imagine a scenario where Rob Ryan returns next season. He is at the end of his contract, and I don’t think Al likes his scheme as much as people seem to think.
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Then why did he get 5 years, and 3 HC’s? that doesn’t compute to me..
October 16th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Ryan won’t be back in Oakland unless Al Davis offers him the HC job. Same with Tom Cable
October 16th, 2008 at 10:04 am
That was his contract, for 5 years. Al loves to ax head coaches, but for everyone else he seems to honor the contracts.
I think Al would have fired Ryan last year if Monte Kiffin had actually been available. The fact of the matter was that Kiffin did not give any suggestions to Al that were feasible so he stuck with Ryan, so that he could fulfill the contract. Plus, Ryan has a standing offer from Mangini to coach the Jets defense, why would he want to stay here, being forced to defend himself in post-game press conferences because the owner forces him to play man-to-man, Cover 0 defense.
October 16th, 2008 at 10:04 am
I wish these guys would just leave. Up and go without warning.
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October 16th, 2008 at 10:05 am
The players could probably do better coaching themselves at this point.
October 16th, 2008 at 10:06 am
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October 16th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Tim Brown needs to pay Al Davis a visit. Bring him some prunes and vanilla ensure as a gesture of kindness. Timmy can be a guy that disagrees with Davis w/o being rude or insulting. He loves the Raiders and appreciates Davis and his legacy. He’s young and the players (especially WR’s) will look up to a player headed to Canton as a Raider
October 16th, 2008 at 10:07 am
yep Chaos,
During the KC game the commentators mentioned that Morrison had approached Ryan about being more aggressive. So basically they are already trying to coach themselves, but Ryan is just getting in their way.
October 16th, 2008 at 10:09 am
does anybody think Cable will sit Russell on the bench during cold weather games like Kiffin did in Green Bay last year? protect him! get Walter in there to freeze his balls off!
October 16th, 2008 at 10:12 am
how is fatboy bigmouth Sapp doing on Dancing With The Stars?
Anybody watch that crap?
October 16th, 2008 at 10:19 am
At some point, Pride takes over and the paycheck doesn’t matter. Look at Nnamdi. He plays on an island. He is probably the BEST player on this team, hands down!
October 16th, 2008 at 10:25 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 10:12 am
how is fatboy bigmouth Sapp doing on Dancing With The Stars?
Anybody watch that crap?
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Our NFL presenter, a former player and won the danish cahmpionship as coach is sadly the male host in the danish edition.. But No I don’t see it, his Co-host on the NFL show, teases him at every minute he get =)
October 16th, 2008 at 10:29 am
….and winner of the danish championship as coach….
October 16th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Raiders have to go out and play ball. That’s it. Its just time to play ball. As for coaches, they have to prove that they are better than a man off the street. Defensively, Rob Ryan has to find a way to use a talented roster. Pure and simple.
offensively, if you can’t find a way to utilize DMAC, Fargas, Miller and that O-Line, you shouldn’t be coaching at the nfl level.
I want to think that this team is more than just a team that is marginally better than the Lions or Bengals
October 16th, 2008 at 10:36 am
I want to think that this team is more than just a team that is marginally better than the Lions or Bengals
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you’re right, but at the same time, even if we played the Lions, Bengals, Rams or Chiefs (again) we could win. We have to play better across the board as a team, the coaching especially has to improve
October 16th, 2008 at 10:37 am
i doubt we would win (above)
oops!
October 16th, 2008 at 10:38 am
well I even don’t see us as better as those I still see us as the 2nd worst team
October 16th, 2008 at 10:42 am
how many passing yards and TD’s will Favre have this week?
Any INT’s ?
predicted score?
October 16th, 2008 at 10:44 am
54-0 Jets over the Raiders.
Farve 350 yards 4 TDs, no ints.
Commitment to excellence!
October 16th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Negra, where did all the decent commentators to this blog go? Realfootball 365?
October 16th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Mr. Davis, please go meet with Tim Brown and quit wasting your time on Jerry’s blog!
October 16th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Rockstar,
Tom Brown can go to hell, he is a traitor that demanded to be released and signed with the Green Bay Bucaneers despite me ordering him not to. I want to talk to Warren Gault, now he was a great Raider wide receiver, even if Mitch Shanahan thought otherwise!
October 16th, 2008 at 11:11 am
post 251 is an instant classic lol
October 16th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Rock,
20-17 we win. The jets are one of those teams that we match up better with. They’re not as talented in play calling and imagination as Payton or Shanahan.
Expect the D to get one int and set up a short field position for a TD. Expect the O to score one themselves. Expect the D to get us short field position for 1 FG and the spec team to get us another short field position for another FG.
As for the Jets offense, they will get sloppy early on and then make a rally in the 4th quarter to keep us scared.
I see this as another Bills game but this time we should win. The jets D are not as good as buffalo.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Scary thought: Raiders secondary in 2009 or 2010
CB1: deAngelo Hall
CB2: Adam Jones????
I have a sneeky suspicion about this happening. This would be all Al Davis. Especially if Nnamdi no longer wants to play for the Raiders
October 16th, 2008 at 11:14 am
as long as we score its good.
I wonder what mark davis has to say about the raiders current state? I sure he would side with his dad but just curious as to where his mind set is regarding the great debacle, the oakland raiders.
1-15, we draft a punter, ss, then cb.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:16 am
S&B,
Nnamdi does not have any say whether he wants to play for the Raiders or not. If he gets franchised again, most likely, he aint going to sit home and not take the 10+ mil.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:16 am
keep dreamin if we win another game would be a miracle. everyone wants off this ship including the players. only ones sticking around is us fans as we have no choice.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:18 am
chance of the raiders have a winning season in the next 5 years? low
chance the raiders will have 10 losing seasons in a row? high
October 16th, 2008 at 11:21 am
knowing al we could take a rb first pick also.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Please Cable Guy,..start Andy Walter this sunday.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Donedeal, you might be right. We might not win another game this year. Anything is possible. But then again St. Louis did beat Washington right? Any given Sunday.
right now it is too early in the season for teh players to pack it up. In Dec, they will pack it up.
But try to be logical on this. The teams we got blown out to this year are teams that have very good play callers, gives up few sacks, and have a topflight QB.
1. Favre is no longer a top flight QB. The last time he was here he had an awesome WR corp. not right now other than the Cards game.
2. He has been sacked more than Brees and Cutler.
3. Their playcalling is not the same as Payton or Rat face.
When we play a team straight up, we do pretty well actually. When we play a team with lots of play calling imagination we get torched.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:22 am
MR I quit worrying about wins and losses 5 years ago,..I go to the games now simply as a place to get drunk in public. Not alot of places to do that anymore.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:23 am
the goos ship oakland raiders is a sinking vessel. Who can keep this boat afloat? who would want to? alas poor oakland raiders I knew them well when they were a good football team. I still love them but hate to losing oh well.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Alisgod,..will you please change your name to Alisstupid,..then we will take you seriously. Thank you.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Hey people, Im outta here,.off to get a 40 and bring it to the river with my dog,…nice day out here. Go Rays tonight!
October 16th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Norco…you’re a racist and you dont normally have anything good to say other than talking about getting drunk and degrading black people.
Why dont you change your name to I-am-a-racist. I know people that are racists but at least they dont hide it. At least stand up for what you believe in. chump.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:27 am
you have aq complelling argument alls the onbly problem is that you forgot to take into account our offenss outside of the running game flat out suks.
we score 3 points against no. wtf is that? sorry to say this team is lousy lousy lousy. but still love um.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:28 am
norco bob, you are Alemeda insider right. why are you drunk all the time? Is this real or some act?
October 16th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Wow you leave for a second and people want to jump in rivers and call eachother chumps. I thought there was some sort of togetherness this morning. Guess not. Oh wait, those were all my comments for a while. No wonder they all made sense!
October 16th, 2008 at 11:33 am
donedeal, I understand your point.
However, other than the one pass in 4th qtr in buffalo, one pass to miller against SD, and a couple of runs by Bush and McFadden, our O never really put a good drive this year.
the reason we were able to be competitive in those 3 games (bills, KC, and SD)is because largely due to our spec team and D giving the O good field positions. In Buffalo, it was Dhall’s int that gave us a very short field to score a TD. The same goes for the SD game. We got the turnovers. Against Denver and NO, we didnt benefit from any D’s turnover and only one good return by the spec team.
One thing I did like (and there wasnt many) from the NO game was that we actually put together some first downs. They end up getting stalled but we were able to move the ball. That rarely happend in the first 4 games.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:33 am
cant reason with someone under the influence of al davis.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Wow. I guess Old Jon Becker and Jerry took offense to my comments a few days ago. They are deleting just about every other post on here from me.
Losers! Delete that Losers!
October 16th, 2008 at 11:35 am
The new policy on Jerry’s Blog for the Mods:
“Delete anything that talks about what happens on the inside of this building. I want nothing on our blog that talks about how we rub eachother.”
October 16th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Chaos
Always causing havoc
October 16th, 2008 at 11:37 am
My screen name is more a sarcasm. I consider myself pretty fair when it comes to Al. People bitch and whine but they have to know Al is going no where. Deal with it. I take his good with his bad.
You can make fun of my screen name but I believe my points are pretty valid.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:37 am
alls, i cant get drunk off of wanting this team to be good, and hoping we get better problem is neither will come to furition any time soon. we will be very fortunate to win another game. also we are the laughing stock of all pro sports.
I am no longer under the influence of al davis like some drunkard who is about to OD on the al davis is good kool-aid.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Shouldn’t our defense be able to manage these “high powered” offenses. Isn’t that why Al signed deAngelo Hall to pair with Asomugha? Is Gibril Wilson a top tier safety? Isn’t Huff a former top10 draft pick? Moorison and Howard, aren’t they pro-bowl caliber? And the D-Line, didn’t Davis pay Kelly top money and give Terdell Sands a big contract? Isn’t Burgess supposed to be a premier pass rusher?
I want to know why this defense, led by Rob Ryan, is no better than 26th against the pass and pedestrian against the run? What possible free agent acquisition could significantly improve one of the more underperforming defenses in the league right now?
October 16th, 2008 at 11:42 am
We are not the 97 Raiders nor the 2006 Raiders. I believe you win with talent and this team has enough talent to be a mediocre team.
We still need one DE to pass rush and one receiver who can actually catch the ball in traffic. You cannot defend by relying on a passrush from the DT position (warrne and sands). Curry used to catch in traffic but he no longer wants to sacrfice his body.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Sup Nation?
Tim Brown for Front office position!
October 16th, 2008 at 11:45 am
S&B, to me, Burgess had 2 good years and that was it. He disappeared last year and so far this year as well. i dont know what happened. he is playing for a new contract. Our D in 2006 was good because of his production and the other team not challenging our passing game.
I am not sold on Burgess. A good passrush remedies everythign in the passing D. The QB must go down.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:45 am
So as far as Defense goes Should I start
Buc’s Vs Seattle
or
Titans Vs KC
??????????
October 16th, 2008 at 11:46 am
i havent comment in forever
but asomugha is dope.
hopefully we resign him to a long term deal nxt yr.
we should put tyvonn at fs.
if he doesn’t do good
put nnamdi back there and
tyvonn at nickle w/ routt starting.
schilens should start.
I cnt wait to see arman shields nxt yr.
chaz is playing gd and shields is supposed to b better.
I’m still upset that we couldve had monte
but didn’t bring him in w/ kiffin.
still a raider regardless!!
October 16th, 2008 at 11:47 am
correction post 280…i meant to say our pass D not passing game.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:48 am
LMN
Nice playlist.. It took me weeks to get mine together…
October 16th, 2008 at 11:48 am
AlisGon,
20-17? good call. I’m gonna say 24-20 we win.
Favre has an average day. 270 yards, 2 TD’s, INT
Jones rushes for 75 yards. Coles & Cotchery 1 TD each
I think our defense will have 2 sacks. 1 by Warren, 1 by Edwards. Hall gets the INT
on offense, 1 rush TD from Fargas, 1 rec TD from McFadden, 1 rec TD from Miller.
Russell finishes 190 yards, 2 TD, INT, fumble lost
Fargas has 90 yards on 17 carries. DMC has 50 yards on 8 carries and 2 catches for 40 yards. Bush has 35 yards on 8 carries.
Miller has 4 catches, 70 yards
October 16th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Doe new fix!
October 16th, 2008 at 11:49 am
#261, AIG — Favre is no longer a top-flight QB?? And he doesn’t have an awesome WR corps like last time?
Favre currently has the 5th-highest passer rating in the NFL. His 2:1 TD to INT ratio (13-6) isn’t the greatest — but when you’re winning games, you’ll take Favre’s high risk-high reward style of play any time. He was one of the best QB’s in the league last year, and he’s showing he hasn’t lost anything this year. The Raiders might be able to capitalize on some of his risk-taking, but it’s going to be another long, sad day if they don’t.
As for his WR corps — He’s formed a good relationship with two very good WR’s (Coles and Cotchery), either of whom the Raiders would LOVE to have right now.
That 6-TD game Favre had a few weeks ago wasn’t a mistake, they’re good at what they do. And, the Raiders are good at letting other guys come in and have legendary performances at the Coliseum. RR’s schemes better have old man Brett running for his life.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Alisgod,
I don’t think we have anything better on the horizon than Burgess. Other teams generally don’t get rid of great players. Right now that would mean two Defensive Ends we would need? Not good given Al’s track record with free agents the last few years
October 16th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Unsolicited thought of the day: Did any of you Russell hawks/Kiffin haters that think Kiffin should have trusted the passing game more (or at least thought so, before the Saints), based on what Matt Ryan is doing, ever consider that his defense and pass protection are huge advantages Ryan has that Russell doesn’t. Sam Baker is doing a great job for the Falcons after they gave up a lot (including the 2nd round pick we gave them) to move up and get him. Meanwhile we’ve got crappy Kwame Harris protecting Jamarcus’ backside. Maybe if the Raiders had taken my advice and used their 1st & 2nd round picks to shore up their problems in the trenches, rather than take a RB with the 4th pick and trade the 34th pick for DeAngelo, we wouldn’t have such a crappy team now and an even crappier future ahead of us.
October 16th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Left out a word in my last post. The beginning of that should say, “Did any of you Russell hawks/Kiffin haters WHO think that Kiffin should have trusted the passing game more based on what Matt Ryan is doing…”
October 17th, 2008 at 11:04 am
[...] Asomugha Being Used At Safety??? “The Raiders have begun putting in Asomugha at safety in certain formations, as they used to do with Charles Woodson, hoping to get him some opportunities at interceptions. Asomugha had his breakout year with eight interceptions in 2006 and saw only 35 passes his way all last season, picking off one” Eugene will challenge Huff – Inside The Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly clas… [...]
October 18th, 2008 at 9:21 am
[...] with eight interceptions in 2006 and saw only 35 passes his way all last season, picking off one” Eugene will challenge Huff – Inside The Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly clas… Woodsen was moved to safety because he flat out couldn’t cover anymore. Randy Cross (who I dont [...]
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