Imagine Lewis in silver and black
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, October 25th, 2008 at 4:38 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Random observations following a long trip to Baltimore:
– The Raiders were far from alone in this, given that the dominant defensive player of his era lasted until the 26th pick of the first round, but how would history have been different if Al Davis had been smitten with Ray Lewis instead of Rickey Dudley?
A Raiders team that has had difficulty stopping the run for most of their return to Oakland would have had the services of the one common thread in a defense which has been among the NFL’s best in that area since 1996.
– “It’s personal. It really is,’’ Lewis told reporters earlier this season. “Me being around here for as long as I’ve been around, it’s just the bottom line whenever a new person comes in here. The first thing I say is there’s something we don’t do. We don’t let people run the ball on us.
“It’s kind of a thing we all buy into from Day 1.’’
– Three linebackers were drafted before Lewis _ Kevin Hardy to Jacksonville at No. 2, John Mobley to Denver at No. 15 and Reggie Brown to Detroit at No. 17. The No. 1 overall pick was Keyshawn Johnson.
(That’s the good news for Oakland _ Denver passed on Lewis as well, meaning the Raiders wouldn’t have had to play him twice a year for 13 years).
Baltimore, getting its move-year from Cleveland off to a great start, also got Jonathan Ogden at No. 4 overall.
– The Raiders traded the No. 17, No. 48 and No. 109 picks to Houston in order to take Dudley at No. 9. Dudley wasn’t a bust _ only Tim Brown caught more touchdown passes during his time with Oakland _ but poor hands made him an unreliable receiver who never achieved the greatness Davis expected.
– The Raiders managed to get Brett Favre of their back last week. Lewis has been equally difficult in his infrequent appearances against the Raiders. The Ravens are 3-1 in the Raiders not including a 16-3 smothering of the Raiders in the AFC championship game following the 2000 season.
The only Oakland win came in 2003 when Rick Mirer made fewer mistakes than Anthony Wright, with the Raiders prevailing 20-12.
(Thanks for correction _ it was Anthony Wright, not Alexander . . . )
– In the last meeting, the Raiders managed 162 yards of total offense and Aaron Brooks left during the first series in favor of Andrew Walter with the Ravens prevailing 28-6.
– As good as Lewis is, and coach Tom Cable believes he hasn’t lost a thing, the Ravens have a rookie quarterback in Joe Flacco who has been error-prone, only one real threat at wide receiver in Derrick Mason (tight end Todd Heap can also do some damage).
If the Raiders can defend the run as they had earlier this season, and put last week’s 242 yards by the Jets behind them, there’s no reason they can’t keep the game close provided they take care of the ball.
Throw in a touchdown on defense or special teams, win the field position battle and let Sebastian Janikowski kick a field goal or three and they’ve got themselves an upset.
– Cable last coached against the Ravens in 2006 as offensive line coach of the Falcons. It was a tightly fought game which Baltimore pulling away at home largely because of two big returns by B.J. Sams.
Maybe he’ll get to the M&T Stadium, break out multiple formations and try to pass the Ravens dizzy, but Cable is selling the notion of a slugfest. The Raiders used to get Junior Seau out of position on occasion, but Cable doesn’t believe Lewis will take the bait.
“He’s played too much, he’s seen too much,” Cable said. “You try to do some things, but he’s seen a lot of football. You’re not going to trick him.”
– What to make of the John Elway blast leveled at the Raiders? Lose 10-plus games five years running and you’re a punching bag. Only way to change it is to win.
It’s worth noting that Russell’s pass protection has actually been better than expected, and through six games he’s not taking the sort of physical beating Elway was alluding to regarding young quarterbacks on bad teams.
But if the Raiders do a grand sweep of their coaching staff following the season, junk their entire offense and start over, then it’s a setback.
But so far, so good.
– The Ravens are very good defensively, but they haven’t exactly been beating up on quarterbacks. They’ve got 12 sacks _ four fewer than the Raiders _ and only bounty-hunting Terrell Suggs (4.5) having more than two.
– More impressive than the site of Camden Yards when driving into Baltimore _ the gas stations. Regular unleaded gas is $2.49 per gallon.
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October 25th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Just win baby.
October 25th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
thanx 4 the fix Jerry
October 25th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
According to Willis Da Raider he already was in 05 we traded for him LMAO
October 25th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
my personal favourite is the 2002 draft taking buchanon over ed reed, no wonder we’ve sucked every year since the sb loss. and yeah dudley was a bust
GO RAIDERS
October 25th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Game three wolrd series
Penn state – overrated nuts…errr buckeyes
And my pals at ROR blogworld to chat with.
What more could an old man ask man.
October 25th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
A defensive TD is needed in this game. Chris McCallister is not the corner he used to be. Go after him.
October 25th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
This should be the Jamarcus Russell break out game. Throw on lst down on more than one occasion and see if the ancient Maven corners can shut down our wides. BTW, hey Gregg Knapp: MIX IN A FEW DRAW PLAYS!!!
October 25th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
More impressive than the site of Camden Yards when driving into Baltimore _ the gas stations. Regular unleaded gas is $2.49 per gallon.
*****
That IS impressive, Jerry. Hopefully the Raiders will be equally impressive, and win!
Just a quick shoutout to 808Raidah, Guamanian Raider, Huff24, KoolKell, SirBlitzalot, I Dress in Black, Silver Blood–Black Veins, South Texas Raider, New Mexico Raider, Jedi Raider, and to all the other cool and respectful posters…keep putting all those Raider haters in place–especially that #1 troll…
GO RAIDERS!!!
October 25th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Its still over three bucks here in pee hole arizona.
October 25th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Back at ya desert Raider.
October 25th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Im for PSU and TBR
October 25th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Lewis’ motor is unquestioned, but he definietly benefited from the Ravens stout front lines.
He was allowed to scrape and make plays as the big men clogged and stuffed.
I don’t think that would’ve happened with Sapp at DT.
October 25th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
I know its early but this stuff is fun.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php
2009 NFL Mock Draft
October 25th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
My Notre Dame is kickin some @$$ early on. Its nice to see one of my football teams score points like this. Haven’t seen this in forever.
October 25th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Far as gas prices go they should be pre war right around a dollar a gallon.
October 25th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
DO NOT FORGET MR LEWIS LEFT 2 PEOPLE DEAD IN AN ATLANTA ALLEY ALSO. WHAT A GUY !!!
October 25th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
DesertRaider24 – Yo!
October 25th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
I wouldn’t mind having a murderer at MLB. I’d love to add Michael Myers (Halloween) if possible.
October 25th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Na hes to slow but Freddy Kruger would be cool..
October 25th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Huff they have us finishing worse than Cincy who haven’t won a game…
October 25th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Huff24 Says:
October 25th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
I wouldn’t mind having a murderer at MLB. I’d love to add Michael Myers (Halloween) if possible.
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Too slow and plays too upright.
Needs to get lower in his pads, but his cardio? Whoo boy…you can’t stop this guy. He’ll play deep into the 4th quarter with no sign of let up.
October 25th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
“Who blinks first”
Russell’s not really a rookie but he is inexperienced.
http://www.raidernationstation.com
October 25th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I like how elway makes reference to what he did when he was drafted. He should be ashamed how that turned out. Instead he’s proud of it. It’s the NFL you go to the team that drafts you. Nothing worse than somebody coming out of college getting a shot in the NFL and being to good to go to the team that drafts you ala rivers.
October 25th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
ala manning
October 25th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
imagine if Robert Comer wasn’t an id1ot..
October 25th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
fill er up!!!!!!!
October 25th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Blah. I’d rather imagine the future for Kirk and Thomas.
October 25th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
AO..
yeah thats much easier.. we all know this blog’s Comer is an id1ot
October 25th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Grow or Pay – Wikipedia me.
Go Raiders!
October 25th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Fluffy, I’m only going to tell you this one more time.
Draft talk in October is for LOSERS!
Go Raiders!
October 25th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
yeah.. as I said you are an id10t. only a fool would use such a moniker.
October 25th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Grow or pay.. aint that the truth..
October 25th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Grow or Pay – Grow a pair.
Go Raiders!
October 25th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Comer..
grow a brain..
October 25th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Good one.
Go Raiders!
October 25th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
ufck I just got the ring of death on my xBox
October 25th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
What’s the ring of death?
Go Raiders!
October 25th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
While it goes without saying that I would love to have Ray, I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that the Ravens would love to Russell, Nnamdi and DMC.
Everyone wants better players if the Ravens had a better QB for the last ten years they would be the Patriots. And that’sthe reason why I find Jerry’s blogs sometimes seek the negative. I bet the Ravenswish they had Brady but they don’t. So to write about crap like this is silly.
The Ravens have lost a ton of games over the last few years because they can’t score, especially late in games. They should be working on a dynasty instead they’re washed in mediocrity because they never got the QB situation straightened out.
So they essentially wasted Ray’s career. What do you think of that Jerry?.
October 25th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
-Comer
wikipedia it..
October 25th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
BHP – True that.
Go Raiders!
October 25th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
-408.. I feel for you.. my 360 did it, and it meant I’ve been a ps3′er since
October 25th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Grow a pair – You smell like Fluffy.
Go Raiders!
October 25th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
I realy wanted to shoot people in the face! Fuk!
October 25th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
“I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that the Ravens would love to Russell, Nnamdi and DMC”
If you mean love to “have”, then its pretty obvious and redundant.. you are talking about 3 first round picks 2 with less than 8 games under their belt. I think 31 teams would like those guys
Wasted Rays career is pretty much far fetched.. look what he has obtained.. he is already a HOF in waiting
October 25th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
-408
if you still have your waranty it shouldn’t be a problem. of course for the time being but not on monday, you should be able to get a new and improved version.
October 25th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
-Comer
you smell like burned flesh.
October 25th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
GOP
yeah I Know this is the second time it happened thanks tho
October 25th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Of course he is a HOFer, I’m talking their about inept record over his career. They’ve had a dominant defense for the majority of ten years They got lucky and beat us at home. If Gannon had played the entire game we would have won, no doubt in my mind. But Gannon suffered a cheap shot and they went on to win the SB. Other than that what have they accomplished with that defense………….nothing.
October 25th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
-408
thats just bad luck.. 2 times, that shouldn’t be possible, what are you going to do about it, then? try again?
October 25th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
-Blackholepriest, yeah Tony S, ruined his arm, and our chances, hate the guy, I still think Ray Lewis done a fantastic job, and I have to admit I rather have ravens record for the last 8 years than the pathetic record we have accumulated..
October 25th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
They have a ring and that’s what it’s all about. It is time for The Raiders to turn things around. Our DL is OK but lacking in depth. Our linebackers are fast, and our db’s are talented. Our defense is not as good as Baltimore’s but I think it matches up well to Baltimore’s offense. We need our offense to avoid mistakes and find a way to get something done. I think there should be some plays to be made against a beet up secondary.
October 25th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
if our rungame shows up, we will have chance, if the game is based on our passing game then we will be in to it to our necks. Fargas really needs to run hard and hurt the Defense. This is one of the games where O’neal would have been a huge asset.
October 25th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
GOP
I have no choice I have an extended friends list that I game with all the time .. Sucks huh
October 25th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
That ges without saying, maybe what I’m saying is over your head. I’m saying they should’ve been a dominant team for at least 5 years and they haven’t.
Sure our record over the last 5 years stinks, I’m all too aware of that fact but let’s see if we take advantage of Russell’s presence during his career better than they did with Ray and that defense. It’ll be interesting to see Russell develope and watch the Raiders build around him. We should be in contention year in and year out. I think we’ll get 2 -3 SB appearances during Russell’s career. We did it Plunkett Lamonica and Stabler and Gannon. Russell wil get several cahnces to play in the big game. Trust me.
October 25th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
-408..
well the odds say the next one should last
October 25th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
I think trying to force the run against this defense would be like beeting our heads against the wall unless we have some success throwing the ball and get them back on their heels a bit. I would like to see us find a way to make their big guys run a lot and get tired by the fourth quarter.
October 25th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
-Blackholepriest, yeah lets hope so, lets hope he isn’t a jeff george, though I don’t think he is, I just think we wont be able to fight for the good spots until his third year, or maybe fourth, I don’t think we should rush it, and I hate to say it, but Elway is right, we need some weapons to Russell, we need a roscoe, an evans or a Royal.. I have very little faith in the receivers at hand
October 25th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Well give it time these are very young kids and can develope right alng with Russell, One thing I know about Mr Davis, he is not bashful about getting talent.
Sometimes it doesn’t work out but it’s not for lack of trying. If you put a Crabtree or someone with his talent in the mix this WR corp could take off. We’re set at HB. Add more talent to the Oline and continue to biuld the defense. This could happen sooner than anyone thinks. By years end let’s see where we are and then we’ll know what we really need. Chaz could be the one who knows? JLH and Shields could develope into big play WR’s you just don’t know.
But there is no doubt in my mind we will get what we need………………..period
October 25th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
GOP, we have forgotten that we lost a great FB in OO and it shows every week. If he were in the mix I would take our running against anyone. Without OO we are struggling. He is sorely missed. In the passing game as well as the running game. That was a huge blow.
October 25th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
I just pooted fatburger. ewwwww
October 25th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
I have to agree with BHP on his Russell should be in multiple SB’s comment. Yes, we have sucked ass the last five years, but maybe we got the marquee QB this franchise has needed because of that. Indian-crapolis, San Diego, the 90’s Dall-ass teams all built their franchises during long down stretches. You just can’t blow those very high picks. Sorry Phony Whiners.
October 25th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Quint tasted like chicken.
October 25th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
SC Raider – The receiver you are thinking of was Mike Alexander (back in the L.A. days). I remember him because a friend of mine and I drove down South once as Steve Beurlein tossed a TD pass to Alexander, we stood up and cheered (at the LA Coliseum) as the LA fan base looked at us like we were nuts. My friend then yelled, “What’s wrong with you people, the Raiders just scored!”. The older man sitting in front of us then turned around and said, “The LA fans don’t care that much, the team belongs back in Oakland.”
He was right.
October 25th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
so jamarcus wins one game and youre ready to call multiple super bowls. Yeah lets win more games then we lose and then im ready for the crazy talk.
October 25th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
I hope Jamarcus turns out great, but still need to see more before we know what we have, and please use bush sick of fargas sub 2yrd runs.
GO RAIDERS
October 25th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
don’t forget ray lewis’ outstanding community presence, oh wait, I forgot he was a person of interest in a murder….all you home O’s putting down the raiders need to switch teams, real raider fans don’t need you around anyways…wear your red and gold things proudly!
October 25th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
I like Red and Gold. And Jeff Garcia and Steve Young. Those are real men. And I mean real men.
October 26th, 2008 at 12:02 am
JERRY MCDONALD IS A HATER. I can’t stand his negative comments. He is bitter and uninformed.
We need someone else to cover the Raiders.
Why can’t Steve Corchran do his own daily updates.
Sign me up for any other website.
Why do I come to this site then?
I am wondering that myself.
Go Raiders.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:10 am
Yeh, Jerry is bitter and uninformed, while you’re in the know because why, you’ve got Raiders.com open in another tab. Get a life moron.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:11 am
I like Red and Gold. And Jeff Garcia and Steve Young. Those are real men. And I mean real men.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:11 am
I just pooted fatburger. ewwwww
October 26th, 2008 at 1:12 am
Don’t taze me bro.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:13 am
Just got back from watching a replay of some of the last game. Maybe Al does know what he is doing. The Raiders played well. Plus I love huge bums.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:21 am
And, Oakglenn, the Raiders have been “competitive in most of their games”?!? What does that even mean? Is there a standing anywhere for merely being “competitive” in a game? You having this little league dad-like sympathy for the Raiders is more insulting to them than anything else. They’re a professional football organization, where the industry’s bottom line is WINNING, period. There’s no prize for being “competitive”. It’s not like little league, where they don’t keep score. So if “competitive” is the only goal you and your senile pimp Al Davis are shooting for these days, maybe he should hang the Raiders up, take on a little league team, and bring you along as a mascot. Because in the NFL, competitive alone don’t cut it. You get dumber with every post, Oakglenn.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:33 am
My mistake. The bottom line is making more money, not winning. How stupid can I continue to be..
October 26th, 2008 at 1:36 am
Oakglenn, the bottom line is making money when you own a hardware store. Winning is the ultimate goal of a sports franchise. In most professional sports leagues, a team can be disbanded for going so many years without winning. In fact, that could be what’s in the crystal ball for Al Davis if he doesn’t straighten up his act.
October 26th, 2008 at 2:00 am
anyone know the last time we one 2 in a row?
October 26th, 2008 at 2:36 am
Post # 84 Last Year right? started 02 won the next 2 2W 2L at the bye and then it all went down the crapper except for the two other games they won.
actully if i am not mistaken they did the same thing in 07 and went down the crapper after the bye that year too.
Not going to even claim they will win today I stopped making perdictions years ago. They are of course their own worst enemy you could argue they should be 4 and 2 or at least 3 and 3. But as is the case every years since 03 they have stunk.
On the upside they got a core of young players that might be good if they can learn how to play as a team. Only then can they learn how to win more then they loose.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:56 am
1st play a 5 yd slant to JLH.I still dont think Fargas is 100%.So with that in mind lets turn Bush loose,put Dmac in the slot.We will need 2 use all our ingrediants 2 win,especially STs,but I know we can win this one.Dmac in the slot,in the slot,in the slot.GO RAIDERS.Good Morning NATION =)
October 26th, 2008 at 5:13 am
Isnt that the truth.
Another team with a fully working front office.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:14 am
No coffee yet.
That last post was for #38 BHP
October 26th, 2008 at 5:15 am
How about Texas Tech?
I would love to see them beat Texas.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:21 am
#54 BHP is on fire
October 26th, 2008 at 5:30 am
Dam, not even 100 posts the night before a big game.
This place jumped the shark after the draft.
Where did all the regs go?
Some gay arsed site that allows coke can sized avaters and every other post is
HOWIE RULES!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE THE RAIDER NATION!!!!!!
Regging will not help at this point. Scary needs to hire some more trolls. I bet they fired the copyboy that was screwing with us here at ROR blogworld.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:36 am
#78 MR
Most owners…… errrrr corporations dont care about winning near as much as they care about making money.
Answer this.
How many owners have put their heart and soul 24/7 into a team for almost 50 years like the man you loathe who owns the team some Raider fans love.
AL will take us back to the playoffs and he will spend his last nickle making sure he does not lose when he gets to the playoffs.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:38 am
Anyone can answer this.
How many sure fire hall of fame QB’s have entered the draft in the past 25 (you can use almost any number here) years?
October 26th, 2008 at 5:46 am
I dont know AM I can think of 6-7 tho
October 26th, 2008 at 5:49 am
It suprises me tho,it seems like the best QBs come in the l8ter rounds.Like the greatest of all-time JOE MONTANA came in the 6th
October 26th, 2008 at 5:52 am
I hate when people assume outcomes like that. Ray Lewis is a great play and is a hall of famer but that doesn’t mean he would have been dominant on the Raiders. Think about it, Lewis came into the league and eventually played on some of the best defenses in league history. He was surrounded by outstanding defensive talent across the board.
Lewis is great against the run but has ALWAYS been a liability in coverage. On a lesser defense, teams would have tried to expose this but being surrounded by a superior defense tends to cover up holes like that. Drafting a player is always a gamble. They could have all the potential in the world but if they are put in the wrong situation, there is no room for development.
I hate when people say things like “ahhhh man, how did we pass on this guy?” It’s almost impossible to predict careers. It’s alot easier to judge 7 years after the draft when you had time to watch the player. Who knows…maybe Rickey Dudley was a good player and we just had a bad TE coach? Maybe Ray Lewis would have been exposed as a one-dimensional linebacker in the Raiders organization. Who would Lewis have benefited from? Outside of Burgess and Woodson for 2 years, we never have not had a dominant defender since the glory days. Who would have had Lewis’ back and cover up his lack of pass defense? Napolean Harris? Phillip Buchanon? Tyler Brayton? Terrance Shaw? Ray Buchanon? Regan Upshaw? Sam Adams? Bill Romanowski’s twilight years? All borderlined defenders at best. Ray Lewis would not have been such a dominant player had Oakland taken him.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:56 am
Anderw’s Mom,
Off the tope of my head, I’d say 1…Steve Young.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:59 am
God, am I tird or what….add Elway Marino and Kelly to that list too.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:59 am
tired*
October 26th, 2008 at 6:04 am
4Eva I dont know either.
I was just messing with MR.
I was thinking Peyton and maybe Eli,
Like you said theres probaly about 6 and we have one of them.
I think he will live up to the billing and its obvious Al knows that too. Now we are building a team around him. Al is all in 100% and I bet he is ready to spend every dime he has in two years.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:07 am
Tatum
Even if there were 12, we grabbed one and I hope that he is able to follow through.
I just think having a great QB covers a multitude of sins, so to speak.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:09 am
Come on now, you can’t be that naive and call Russell a sure-fire hall of famer. You just can’t do that. I love the Raiders but come on. Maybe it’s just because I’m a cynic, I’m still not ready to crown McFadden either.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:10 am
I just read that Rush Limberger wants to buy an NFL team.
What do all the Al haters think?
Sell to Rush, move to LA and live happily ever after forever?
October 26th, 2008 at 6:13 am
No thanks on Rush.
I’d rather have dimented Al than a racist pill popper.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:13 am
AM I agree with you 100% Jmac could very well be the one,thee greatest ever,he surely has all the tools physically,If he can learn 2 read a defence 3/4 as good as King Joe Look-Out!!! Also DEATHbyTATUM;I also agree with you too:The draft is a crap-shoot at best,nobody knows=)Thats one of the games biggest and best angles nobody knows
October 26th, 2008 at 6:13 am
I agree Tatum.
I mentioned “before the draft” for that reason.
Now you can debate that JR was considered a sure fire before the draft.
Not to mention I am taking liberty with sure fire.
We all know theres no such thing.
I was thinking in order to qualify as sure thing you would have to be drafted first or maybe second if theres another sure fire ahead of him.
So theres no set rules. Just something to talk about
October 26th, 2008 at 6:19 am
Heres a off the wall topic that I feel I have to share.
Im on the wrong side of 50 and I just discovered last night that you can throw a big handful of popcorn seeds in a brown paper lunch bag, fold it over three times at the top and nuke untill it stops popping.
Much, much cheaper then buying prepared bags with tons of CRAP (probaly half is china poison)
October 26th, 2008 at 6:21 am
4eva
As long as he does not outgrow his body and he learns to read the D and become a leader, then he has the other tools in his bucket.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:21 am
I don’t even remember people claiming Russell to be a “sure fire” coming out in the draft. All the hype was over his arm and playmaking ability outside the pocket. In my mind, that hardly qualifies him.
If there is a such thing as “sure-fire” right out of college (and Im sure there isn’t), the player should have all the accolades and some time under his belt. Russell was never metioned in the Heisman run nor did he play 2 years as a starting QB in college. Russell had a quality Sophomore season and a great Junior Season.
For me to call someone sure fire, they need to have at least 3 (maybe 4) DOMINANT seasons in college and win the Heisman. But even this isn’t concrete…Matt Leinart anyone?
There is no such thing as a sure-fire QB coming out of college. Once in a while you can guess right on Lineman or Linebackers but it’s almost impossible to do so with skill positions.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:26 am
Tatum
I said we would have to take a little liberty with the def, and you are right that JR might not fit even with a loose def. I guess we would have to look back at how many QB’s were selected #1 or #2, maybe and then work from there.
I would say Peyton Manning was one though.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:28 am
man this just keeps-on gettin harder-n-harder lol =)
October 26th, 2008 at 6:29 am
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position&position=Quarterbacks
Link for QB’s drafted
October 26th, 2008 at 6:30 am
Lets go back to 77. Thirty years
October 26th, 2008 at 6:32 am
lol theres more then I thought.
12 QBs chosen first overall in thirty years
October 26th, 2008 at 6:32 am
Bert Jones #3 in 73
I always liked Bert.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:36 am
Then Dave Casper ripped out Bert’s heart.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:37 am
6 qbs picked #1 since 2001
9 qbs picked #1 from 1966 to 2001
Hmmm seems like more value is being placed upon having a great QB to win?
October 26th, 2008 at 6:37 am
Didnt Casper do that to many a QB?
October 26th, 2008 at 6:47 am
So we have
JM
Alex Smith
Eli Manning
Carson Palmer
David Carr
Michael Vick
Tim Couch
Peyton Manning
Drew Bledsoe
Jeff George
Troy Aikmen
Vinnie Testiverde
John Elway
Steve Bartowski
JIm Plunkett
Terry Bradshaw
There it is since 1967
16 #1 in 40 years and 6 of those came in the past 8 years.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:51 am
# Andrews Mom Says:
October 26th, 2008 at 6:37 am
6 qbs picked #1 since 2001
9 qbs picked #1 from 1966 to 2001
Hmmm seems like more value is being placed upon having a great QB to win?
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Andrews Mom..
Well I see it more as the college game is getting so much better, that the QB has higher quality and are more NFL ready than they were just 15 years ago..
October 26th, 2008 at 6:53 am
Andrews Mom Says:
October 26th, 2008 at 5:30 am
Dam, not even 100 posts the night before a big game.
This place jumped the shark after the draft.
Where did all the regs go?
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I went to London.. and in danger sounding too full of myself, I can see the blog really suffered =)
October 26th, 2008 at 6:54 am
Smith looks like a bust
Same with Carr although he really looks like a bust.
Vick was more of a stadium draw pick. Few thought he had the intangibles. He should not be included.
Couch = bust
Bledsoe = bust but still a god qb
George = never lived up to the hype
Vinnie = close but no cigar
Bartowski = bust but in all fairness he was drafted by the bucs.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:54 am
LMN
good point
October 26th, 2008 at 6:57 am
as QBs go they gotta have a certain quality.Dont have to have strongest arm,like a Marino did or Jmac does hmmmm,anyway its called a field-general and no-body knows who the next great one will be.No body expected Bradshaw or Montana or Brady 2 become what they became,but on the other handyou would hope 2 expect it as in say a Stabler or a Plunkett who were drafted high
October 26th, 2008 at 6:58 am
I was at a Pub with my GF last night, we were watching Newcastle vs Sunderland, Sunderland hadn’t won at home for 28 years against the big brother in the local derby, but they did yesterday..
the game winning goal came on a free kick, and after it went in, he ran towards the corner with Newcastle fans and taunted them..
Man it was great, thats what NFL needs, we need more intensity, not all this feel-good family sh1t..
October 26th, 2008 at 6:59 am
Speaking of HOF QB’s.
How about two of them getting staph infections in the same year despite having the best medical care in the world.
Scary stuff, sorta like scary mcdonald
October 26th, 2008 at 7:00 am
I didnt realise Bradshaw went #1 =)
October 26th, 2008 at 7:00 am
Terry was drafted #1
October 26th, 2008 at 7:02 am
“despite having the best medical care in the world.”
I think I’ll beg to differ on that one..
October 26th, 2008 at 7:04 am
best medical care money can buy is in Switzerland.. No country is even close..
October 26th, 2008 at 7:09 am
this blog sucks now… Overrun with frat boys and lsers. Jerrys’ fault. He let the trolls ruin it …too bad… Sound the funeral drum.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:09 am
another thing about Bradshaw;I swear I hated him whenever we met him,man the games we had against the steelers just awesome.But thers one thing I had 4 Bradshaw:total RESPECT.He went to a 1-13 steelers team and didnt complain once.On the other hand you have an Elway{stomping his feet and crying like the sissy he still is}who wouldnt go 2 a 1-13??? colts team.So I may have hated Terry Bradshaw too this day I Respect him.Elway on the other hand I looth&despise.So I wont give any creedence 2 what he thinks or says that Punk
October 26th, 2008 at 7:12 am
Opps, I forgot about the superior swiss.
Everyone knows that Brady & Peyton put their careers at risk by letting the American docs operate instead of the watchmakers and bankers who eagerly hide the money of the corrupt politicians throughout the global world.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:13 am
Good morning nation!
Perfect football weather in Baltimore.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:20 am
Bradshaw was beaten out in 1974 for the starting QB job by Joe Gilliam. Joe Gilliam though had a heroin habit and Bradshaw got his job back. If not for the drugs, Bradshaw would have been a backup.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:22 am
wow EXLA I remember Gilliam now,tho I didnt know the reason 4 his demise Thankx
October 26th, 2008 at 7:26 am
wikipedia
Gilliam was out of the National Football League at the end of 1975 He battled cocaine and alcohol addiction on and off over the next few years.
Gilliam died of a heart attack on December 25, 2000 shortly after watching the NFL game between the Dallas Cowboys at the Tennessee Titans. He had been sober for four years prior to his death and was able to attend the final Steelers game at Three Rivers Stadium.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:29 am
Post #16….Sad , but true.Lewis is a great athlete, and ,…God help me…, I wish we had him, but I remember the incident very well and ,at that time, Lewis showed absolutely no remorse or class regarding his involvement in the two deaths.Sickening. This is a violent game played by violent people, whom ,by and large, show disrespect for the game as they are as self-indulgent and unaccountable for as they are fabulously and obscenely wealthy…(…apologies to the few classy athletes like Tim Brown, Nnamdi, and McFadden…) . I feel sorry for the fans of whatever team Michael Vick eventually plays for. Good luck justifying his presence on the field to your children………As much as I dispise Belacheat and the Patriots, they seem ,( unlike Al Davis),to understand that character matters…unless, of course, it’s in their best interests( Randy Moss ).Ray Lewis, might remember the fate of O.J….The mills of the Gods grind slow, but exceedingly fine…..
October 26th, 2008 at 7:29 am
I want to rent out Elway for a tailgate party. He would make a great bottle opener! lol
October 26th, 2008 at 7:30 am
Ricky Dudley not a bust? What are you… drunk?
October 26th, 2008 at 7:32 am
Welcome to Maryland Jerry. Hope we send you home with a win.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:36 am
Come on Raiders never thought i would be so excited about the chance to win two in a row.Hope to see the rooks scott, D-Mac, chaz and branch come up big .
GO RAIDERS!!!
October 26th, 2008 at 7:40 am
post 132 lol =)
October 26th, 2008 at 7:48 am
2hrs and 13 mins
October 26th, 2008 at 7:48 am
Gas is 2.09 where I live
October 26th, 2008 at 7:53 am
2.63 4 me
October 26th, 2008 at 8:06 am
Andrews Mom Says:
October 26th, 2008 at 6:54 am
Smith looks like a bust
Same with Carr although he really looks like a bust.
Vick was more of a stadium draw pick. Few thought he had the intangibles. He should not be included.
Couch = bust
Bledsoe = bust but still a god qb
George = never lived up to the hype
Vinnie = close but no cigar
Bartowski = bust but in all fairness he was drafted by the bucs.
BARTKOWSKI…DRAFTED…BY…FALCONS…DUMBASS!
October 26th, 2008 at 8:13 am
oooopppppssssss excuse me, however in all fairness I have never declared myself to know much about football especially the x’s and o’s.
I was too mean to play pop warner and too cool for school.
All I bring to the table is a cheerleader for the Raiders.
October 26th, 2008 at 8:30 am
I always thought Steve DeBerg was a great QB.Man he gave everyone fits with that boot-leg of his.Once again hate but respect =)
October 26th, 2008 at 8:32 am
I must have been thinking about one of the other QB’s they drafted in the first round like Steve Young, Doug Williams, Vinnie Testaverde, and Trent Dilfer.
Three of those won a SB with another team.
Vinnie came close. They need to learn how to develop young QB’s. Maybe Monte can convince them to hire his son, Lame Kitten.
By the way Bucs have a great team site starting with the opening. http://www.buccaneers.com/matchup/2008/08_Cowboys_Away/index.html
October 26th, 2008 at 8:32 am
and Andrews Mom you represent good commenting CARRY-ON BRO,youre much more than a cheer-dude,dude =)
October 26th, 2008 at 8:35 am
As a novice head coach, Mike Singletary said he knows he’s going to make mistakes in his new role with the 49ers. In fact, he admitted to mistakes he hasn’t even made yet. “What it comes down to is did you win the game or did you lose the game?” Singletary said Thursday. “I’m sure I’m going to make some bonehead decisions. There are guys been coaching 20, 30 years and they make bonehead decisions. Why should I be different?”
October 26th, 2008 at 8:36 am
Thanks 4eva
October 26th, 2008 at 8:38 am
de nada
October 26th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Al is not the only owner who makes mistakes on WR,s
Heres a 6 million dollar man,
Earnest Wilford, the fifth-year NFL veteran, didn’t sign a big-time contract with the Dolphins this year just to sit on the bench. But he enters Sunday’s game against Buffalo with one catch, and he’s been on the inactive roster for two straight games. “Am I hurt? Yeah,” Wilford said Thursday. “But this is nothing new for me. Nothing in life came easy for me. This is just a little phase I’m going through. “I just have to continue to believe in myself and crawl my way out of this valley.
October 26th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Great article from Baltimore about todays game. Lots of positive things said about the Raiders.
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2008/10/Ravens_vs_Raiders_Game_Preview.aspx
October 26th, 2008 at 8:52 am
$2.49 a gallon?? I’m moving to Baltimore! It’s still over $3.00 in Reno.
October 26th, 2008 at 8:53 am
God…if we can play Defense…this game is going to be close. Terd, Kelly and Sands are going to have to bring the wood today.
October 26th, 2008 at 8:54 am
I was on Lake Don Pedro over the summer….$7 a gallon.
October 26th, 2008 at 8:56 am
BIG-WOOD
October 26th, 2008 at 9:03 am
it feels GREAT to have the respect of our peers.Sometimes I think we beat ourselves up;expecting sooo much from this young team.Im not talkin bout last year or any other.Even in the ST.PETE TIMES they call us “the improving OAKLAND RAIDERS”
October 26th, 2008 at 9:05 am
Wow HUGE NEWS:
McFadden INACTIVE.
Also:
Samari Rolle, Chirs MacAllister and Leron Landry are all out for Baltimore!
Russell should be let loose on Fabian!
October 26th, 2008 at 9:06 am
not if we were playing them but I really feel sorry 4 the Lions.Old proud organization man their FRUSTRATED FANS.1 of handfull of teams never 2 win it all: like the dis-chargers kinda =)
October 26th, 2008 at 9:07 am
espn simulation game has raiders winning 27-13. i like it.
October 26th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Casserly is coming up on NFL today.
He usually has good insight
October 26th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Morning NATION!
Ufck the Ravens!!!! We must get to the QB early and often! I Think special teams and defense will win this game for us as long as Jamarcus protects the rock it will be all good!
17-13 Raiders
GO RAIDERS
October 26th, 2008 at 9:12 am
DMAC inactive today. COme on BUSH AND FARGAS!!!!
October 26th, 2008 at 9:14 am
mcfadden is inactive for the game what a blow! cause hes was suppose to be the wild card in this game so we’ll see.
October 26th, 2008 at 9:22 am
its about time we got our heads out of our azz bench Dmac 4 his and our future.Steelers Santonio Holmes arrested on OMG maryjane charge.This is why we are SOOOOOOOOOOO FUKKED UP .Like weed should be against the law in the 1st place.fukkin radical wrong
October 26th, 2008 at 9:23 am
It’s going to be wet and slick, it’s going to be a slobber knocker. Bush suits this game better by being a battering ram.
Their entire starting secondary is out, minus the FS! Russell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 26th, 2008 at 9:24 am
hey guys why not join us us on the new thread?
October 26th, 2008 at 9:25 am
not 2 change but;Addai out 4 colts on MNF,which means we can see what we gave up on in Rhodes
October 26th, 2008 at 9:28 am
Ok NATION I’m off 4 da GAME RAIDERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS FUKK-YEAH
October 26th, 2008 at 9:33 am
The Raiders by holding out DMAC are conceding this game, its clear..they know they have no chance to win so will not even play the fragile little wuss,..DMAC cant take the NFL…hes a wuss.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
People forget about the 2006 game against Baltimore that Aaron Brooks played. This is the first and last time I will mentioned his name in an article. He fumbled the snap twice in a row. I haven’t heard of that happening before or since. He’s by far the worst I have ever seen. Now the Raiders have a real quarterback in Russell, and hopefully he can develop.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:57 am
The Raiders would have stiffled Ray Lewis , just like Al can kill any player , so Lewis would have become a no body in S& B
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