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Griffith done for the year

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, October 27th, 2008 at 2:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Fullback Justin Griffith will need knee surgery and is out for the year, coach Tom Cable announced at the Raiders weekly press conference.

Griffith has a torn ACL, an injury he sustained a couple of plays before before scoring on a 2-yard touchdown pass from JaMarcus Russell, with Cable saying it “gave way” on the touchdown.

With Oren O’Neal already lost for the season, Luke Lawton is the only true fullback on the roster. Michael Bush has the size of a fullback, but was less than thrilled when Lane Kiffin ran him out of that position occasionally during practice.

Cable said moving Bush to fullback may not be an option because of Darren McFadden’s on-going toe problems.

Instead, a new fullback will probably be brought in and trained as soon as possible, Cable said.

More to come later . . .

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126 Responses to “Griffith done for the year”

  1. Elway's Teeth Says:

    First

  2. Unknown Says:

    Im the Main!!!

  3. Elway's Teeth Says:

    Is Zack Crockett still in shape?

  4. Norco_Bob Says:

    Cable shouldnt be allowed to finish season,..hes stupid.

  5. Norco_Bob Says:

    When Cable said we are on the cusp of a breakthrough, you can here media people giggling.

  6. Norco_Bob Says:

    Damn I wish Gruden was back. I hate this Cable chump.

  7. Norco_Bob Says:

    Cable keeps saying a breakthrough is upon us,..the media laughs when he says that.

  8. NATION Collective - Bishop916 Says:

    crockett was money on 3rd and 2. Unless it was against the patriots. In the snow.

    I’d still take him..

  9. Elway's Teeth Says:

    And Crockett is (or was) a helluva blocker

  10. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Zack Crockett? How old is he? Wouldn’t be bad for him to come in here and teach Luke Lawton a thing or two I guess, but not start. I think the Vikings cut FB Thomas Tapeh a week or two ago. I’d grab him in a heartbeat.

  11. Norco_Bob Says:

    Cable has a Batman tattoo on his bicep,..I think hes a dork…I think Batmans a dork too.

  12. Norco_Bob Says:

    Cable said Lawton is the fb now.

  13. I Knee'd to Know Says:

    What’s going on this year? There have been an inordinate number of knee injuries. What’s causing this perceived exceptionally high number of knee related loses to all teams? Any thoughts?

  14. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Place Griffith and McFadden on IR. Sign Tapeh and promote Rankin from the practice squad. We’ll be fine. DMC was only a factor in 1 game this season anyways. The season is done. We got 9 games left and the other teams in the AFC West are crap, but we aren’t going to make a run with this roster or coaching staff.

  15. Norco_Bob Says:

    Presser over,..it was pretty lame.

  16. Norco_Bob Says:

    I agree rockstar,..mcfadden is a friggin wuss anyway,..another hyped college guy that has already been paid and now wont play hurt,..hes a bust in my opinion…another wasted draft pick.

  17. Coach Elkins Says:

    Is there a reason one of our TE’s can’t play Fullback?

    I’ll answer this question. There is no reason. The fact that we need to bring someone in to play Fullback just illustrate how little our coaching staff knows about Football. The Raider’s don’t run their fullbacks, they are only used in pass protection and used to catch the ball occasionally.

    One of our 3 TE’s would serve this purpose just fine in a back up role to Lawton.

    I am amazed at how little ingenuity exists in the NFL these days!

  18. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    i think we can win against the falcons. their defense is nowhere near as good as the crows is.

  19. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the Raiders deactivated McFadden prior to the Ravens game because they were afraid he’d get Mendenhall’d. Turns out they got Griffith instead. I think that’s the 4th one this year, isn’t it? Ravens got a bounty on RB’s for sure. Suggs continues to be investigated and we’re minus a starting FB for the season because of it.

  20. Coach Elkins Says:

    The question with the Raiders is always “what’s wrong”?, instead of what’s right?

    You ask the wrong question, you always get the wrong answer!

  21. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    what the fahq! why are comments being deleted!

  22. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Elkins, none of our TE’s can even block from the TE spot besides Miller. I don’t see them moving anybody there to FB, except maybe Fred Wakefield (he plays anywhere and everywhere!)

  23. Batman Says:

    Why is norco boy in here posting?? Isn’t norco boy a dorcus malorcus?

  24. Coach Elkins Says:

    Wakefield, another big body. Good call Rockstar. It seems there are better ideas here than the Raiders will eventually come up with.

    And they can all block in the stetch run game concept. Hands inside, keep your feet moving, take the man where he wants to go….

    Be a pole….The back picks his own hole or cutback lane…..easiest run game ever invented….

  25. RaiderRockstar Says:

    South Texas: why are comments being deleted?

    answer: because Jerry Mac hired a guy who does nothing but read our awesome comments all day. He makes sure there is no swearing or bad mouthing of Jerry. Then he spends the rest of his day fondling himself and deleting any comments pro McCain and anti Obama

  26. I Knee'd to Know Says:

    What’s the problem? We got Wakefield don’t we. He can be the FB. He’ll probably do a fair job of it too like he does as a OL, DL, LB & equipment manager.

  27. Coach Elkins Says:

    Jerry Mac doesn’t hire anyone…..I believe we’re dealing with Kiffs old boss.

    So, while I’m gracing you all with my presence, do you have any questions.

    I have a few minutes!

    ha ha

  28. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wakefield also serves as waterboy, ball washer, GM, Amy Trask’s date on friday nights, comedian and 4th QB.

  29. Coach Elkins Says:

    lol

  30. Coach Elkins Says:

    Also a player coach?

  31. I Knee'd to Know Says:

    #28

    Sounds about right. A good ol’ boy who plays the game wherever it shows up.

  32. Coach Elkins Says:

    The League will start to develop more of these kinds of guys. We need men who can play explore the many different roles on the football field. Currently, the Patriots are the only team using these ideas to their fullest.

    Screw the contracts, treat the players like they are in high school. A body is a body!

  33. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wakefield also provides child care for the other players. He’s the team counselor and lobbied hard to get Pacman this offseason. Since Cable got promoted to interim HC, Wakefield coaches the o-line. He’s the Raiders rep for the players union and more importantly, he’s President of the Raiders “playas club”. I think I even saw him in 50 cent’s new video

  34. 4evaRaider Says:

    that statement by Fargas TOTALLY BLEW MY MIND.Like what kind of message does that send.These players of 2day dont give a fukk,I’m rich so WHO~~~~~CARES we’re rich.I thought Fargas deserved his 6mill gaurenteed 2yrs,for being ready when called-upon,he did all his talkin on the field,led by example.For him 2 say that that bullsh:t he needs a 3 game suspension period.I was against the Hall signing almost as much as the donkey signings both of em,but Hall said you didnt see me celebrate once,its all about the winning and we wernt.Hall needs 2 sit these rich,spoiled,arrogant loosers down and BEAT THEM

  35. 4evaRaider Says:

    my gawd I gott settle down,sooo BEER RUNNNNNNNNNNNNN

  36. RaiderMight Says:

    Dang, another Fullback out for the year.

  37. los angeles raiders Says:

    norco bob talks alot….but then again again..he lives in norco….which is the ass crack of california

  38. Rick The Hunter Says:

    Boy I tell ya, Im wondering if all the people who were saying get rid of Kiffin feels relieved about the direction we’re going with the Cable guy. I thought last weeks win caused people to actually think we were gonna miraculously turn into a winning team and all of a sudden make a run for the playoffs. Sorry folks! It aint gon’ happ’n capt’n. It looks like we may be running sigleback formations the rest of the year. So uh,,,, does anyone think we’ll get lucky enough to land Micheal Crabtree come draft day?

  39. Ajoakraider Says:

    ill tell you what nation i think what was wrong with yesterdays game was field position we had. it was horrible field position to start the game.hell the whole game seemed, we started at the 5 or 9 or 3 for that matter. and if hall makes that pick
    when we had the ravens down by the goal line it could have been a different game. defense gets a turnover by the magehee fumble (which he always does) we score its 22-17. but just not enough protection for JRuss, and the offense is just horrible.

  40. Elway's Teeth Says:

    We’re going to reach a point where the RaiDUHz can’t afford another top 5 draft pick, then WHAT?

  41. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # SS Raider Says:
    October 27th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    LMN, oakglenn hasn’t posted on this site in months.
    _____________________________________________________

    of course not under his own moniker, but he sure has under others..

  42. RickyRich Says:

    Looks like they are going to have to bring the big WR-converted FB, Marcel Reece off of the practice squad. Man, are O-Line sucks, and now we have no FBs to help max protect with the TEs. Zach is never going to catch a pass the rest of the year because he will blocking on every play. FUDGE!!!

  43. La Milicia Negra Says:

    if we sign crockett we all know who’s in charge, he couldn’t even block the last 2 years he was a raider, yeah he was good, but does that mean we should get stabler under center? Nah, didn’t think so..

    If he signs we can’t even win the KC game..

  44. los9091 Says:

    After all is said and done….we are only two games out of first place!!!!!!

    (sarcastic).

  45. Scottish Raider Says:

    Tapeh is the best FA FB currently available but, there are some interesting FBs still available – and it may be smarter to run more 2xRB sets rather than play a conventional FB/RB combination. For example:

    1) Darius Walker ex-Texans
    2) Jesse Chatman ex-Jets
    3) Ron Dayne ex-Texans
    4) Musa Smith ex-Jets
    5) Tatum Bell ex-Lions

    or even

    6) Travis Henry ex-Broncos
    7) Louis Rankin Raiders Practice Squad

  46. O'Neal first, now Griffith, and you expect us to run the ball... - Oakland Raiders Forum | Message Board - Where the Raider Nation lives! Says:

    [...] first, now Griffith, and you expect us to run the ball… Griffith done for the year – Inside The Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly clas… One of the major reasons for our rushing success last year was Oren O’Neal’s blocking. Griffith [...]

  47. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Elway’s Teeth Says:
    October 27th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    We’re going to reach a point where the RaiDUHz can’t afford another top 5 draft pick, then WHAT?
    ____________________________________________________

    I don’t think that will be a problem we are heading for un-capped waters..

  48. vegas raider Says:

    Rick the Hunter: Hopefully not, because he will go top-3 I am sure. The way I see it, Detroit, Cincy and KC will have the top 3. Darrius Heyward-Bey from Maryland, runs a 4.24 forty, is 6′3 and Al will never pass him up with that speed.

  49. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    i think its very possible to still get a wild card spot…..given the way our crappy division is right now.

    anything is possible on any given sunday….

    dont lose the faith raider nation.

    (let the hate on my comment begin)

  50. los9091 Says:

    Last thing we need is another “offensive playmaker” we need to build the team from the inside out…that means o-line and d-line!!!!!!

  51. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Scottish..

    4) Musa Smith ex-Jets he was a good 2ndRB option in Baltimore, but FB he isn’t, he is much like Jordan, just cheaper =)

  52. vegas raider Says:

    South Texas: Maybe win the division, but nobody from the AFC West is getting a wildcard

  53. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # SouthTexasRaider Says:
    October 27th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    i think its very possible to still get a wild card spot…..given the way our crappy division is right now.

    anything is possible on any given sunday….

    dont lose the faith raider nation.

    (let the hate on my comment begin)
    ___________________________________________________

    I truly admire you optimism

  54. 408RAIDER Says:

    This just keeps getting worse!

  55. Raider J Says:

    What a joke of a defense, Rob Ryan. 97 yard drive to a rookie out of Delaware! FIRE THE BUM!

  56. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    true that vegas raider….a division title is the only way for any afc west team to get into the playoffs this year.

  57. Raider J Says:

    Gibril Wilson better never have a game like this again. He should be ashamed of himself! We’ve scored 1 TD in the first half of seven games. Not acceptable!

  58. Raider J Says:

    Los 9091 is 100% right. We have enough so-called playmakers. Now we need blue collar guys to open holes and break QBs up!

  59. 408RAIDER Says:

    So now can we get rid of a TE…

  60. El Dirty Says:

    We will have a better showing againts ATL but Sunday was pathetic.

  61. El Dirty Says:

    We can beat everyone in our division but thats not saying much! God I have become a hater…

  62. i dress in black Says:

    LMN – your kicker, the titans D and jerry porter gotta get you 31 points tonight to get the win

  63. i dress in black Says:

    oh porter is done.. sorry

  64. Cable in Deep Says:

    Scottish Raider Says:
    October 27th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
    Tapeh is the best FA FB currently available but, there are some interesting FBs still available – and it may be smarter to run more 2xRB sets rather than play a conventional FB/RB combination. For example:

    1) Darius Walker ex-Texans
    2) Jesse Chatman ex-Jets
    3) Ron Dayne ex-Texans
    4) Musa Smith ex-Jets
    5) Tatum Bell ex-Lions

    or even

    6) Travis Henry ex-Broncos
    7) Louis Rankin Raiders Practice Squad

    That’s why I’m the HC and you guys troll this blog. Can you see Tatum Bell as a FB? What are you going to do break Travis Henry out of prison to play for the Raiders? Look I know you unappreciative fans are upset and you can dis on me all you want but when you dis on Batman that’s the last straw! I was going to turn this team around within 5 years once I got the personell that I need/want but if you guys are going to be complaining all the time I’ll make sure this team doesn’t have a winning season for the next 10 years. Go cry to mama you panzies!!!!

  65. 408RAIDER Says:

    Yo Dirty I jack up Slab 100 to 33

  66. 408RAIDER Says:

    Bush might as well play fb he hardly gets any looks @ RB.. IMO

  67. Yabba Dabba DOO Says:

    ah man, cable has to go, ryan has to go we are in desperate need of a bill parcells to turn around the franchise…

    I watched in utter amazement as Flacco and Co picked our defense apart, running college trickery plays, it was shameful.

    Why is our offensive coordinator down on the field and not up in the boot where he belongs?

    and how many more weeks are we going to have to endure the bewilderer look on Barney Rubbles face, he cleary was hoping the Great Gazoo was gonna show up and somehow bail him out of the mess hes gotten himself into.

    And yet Jeff George is nowhere in sight….

  68. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    Inmann is a douche

  69. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    Although the Raiders blew an oppurtunity yesterday but the bottom line is – THEY LOST NO GROUND in the AFC West.

    This season is a long way from over.

    If the Raiders, 3 point underdogs can beat Atlanta next week and Miami(3 point underdogs)can beat a defenseless Denver team, we will be one game out of first place at the halfway point.

    I’ll take it.

    Go Raiders!

  70. Tom Cables Monday Hangover Says:

    Siht just put Wakefield back there he’s a jack of all trades.

  71. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    Inmann is a big douche

  72. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    Inmann is the biggest douche

  73. Scottish Raider Says:

    Raiders Mock Draft (Pick No 7):

    Round One: James Laurinaitis MLB, Ohio

    Laurinaitis is a leader, a warrior, a run-stuffer and just the sort of mad, maniac we desperately need to fire up this defense. Maualuga would be the alternative.

    Round Two: Jason Smith OT, Baylor.

    Smith is big, strong and smart – and he is an instant upgrade on Harris and Green. We cannot go forward without an improved Oline and Smith is the best available at No39. Okung (Oklahoma State) is the alternative.

    Round Three: Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma

    I know he struggled against Orakpo last week but I think LT is not his best position. Loadholt projects as a top class RT. He has real power and never quits.

    Round Four: Darius Passmore, WR Marshall

    He’s big enough (6′3″) and runs better than 4.48. Good hands, smart and a real prospect.

    Round Five: Chase Daniel, QB Missouri

    Will be marked down because he is only 6′0″ but Daniel is a fighter and a winner. He will make a great scrambling, scrapping back-up to JR when AW leaves.

    Round Six: Jakoby Ford, WR Clemson.

    Only 5′9″ but very quick and with safe hands. He could also challenge Higgins as KR.

    Round Seven: Antonio Dixon, DT Miami

    Just huge: 6′7″ and 328 lbs – Dixon would be the fourth and biggest DT on the roster and a serious roadblock.

  74. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    Inmann is a hugantic douche

  75. 408RAIDER Says:

    who’s Inmann?

  76. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    Inmann is a bag of old douche water

  77. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    A beat writer for this site… and he’s a douche.

  78. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    408… Did you read his crybaby article on the Raiders celebrations during Sundays game?

  79. JUSTautumnWINd Says:

    crap

  80. 408RAIDER Says:

    AZ

    Na Im still trying to figure out who your talking bout..

  81. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    He was bashing the Raiders for celebrating after the few and far between, good plays made by Raider players when they were down on the scoreboard.

    My thinking is, seeing celebrations from these guys is a step in the right direction. At least it shows some kind of team unity, which we’ve lacked.

    Inmann is a douche

  82. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    Look on the Raiders home page on this site under the pic at the upper left. there is an article titled “Raiders having fun losing”.

  83. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    …what a douche.

  84. Rick The Hunter Says:

    I would argue the notion of us already having playmakers. I would only consider McFadden (when healthy) our only playmaker. What we really have is average guys being paid like playmakers. I agree we need to address the line on both sides in the draft, but I wouldnt be mad if we took Crabtree in the 1st rnd then hit the line with the rest of our picks, thats assuming we dont make another dumb trade in the offseason and give up a high rnd pick in return. Putting Henderson back out on the field for the rest of the year to see where we stand with him wouldnt kill us either. Jamarcuss needs some guys to protect him, but he also need someone he knows he can depend on to catch his footballs as well. Just Saying.

  85. no fillin Says:

    bring back Jon Ritchie!!! How bout Zack Crockett!!! I loved those guys…

  86. Scottish Raider Says:

    Rick,

    I agree about Henderson. I would also like to see James Martens get some game time – Dallas saw him as a real prospect and we need options at OG.

    If we draft well, next year’s Oline could (and should) look very different.

  87. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    Rick The Hunter Says:
    October 27th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
    POST 86
    ……………………………………………

    85 & TO availible as FA’s next year. Then we wont have to draft a reciever till later in the draft.

    GET YOUR POPCORN READY!

  88. 408RAIDER Says:

    To is to slow now he has trouble getting off the line thats why the cowgirls got Williams

  89. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    We’re still not mathematically eliminated from anything, so never give up hope!

    Since I never expected more than even an 8-8 season, I’m barely able to stomach games like yesterday’s. More than anything, I feel this is a season to watch individuals — individual players, plays, positions, drives, coaches, everything.

    Even the harshest Raiders critic can see talent on this team. A few of the things they lack — like proven, productive talent at WR and LB — are being recognised and will be addressed the next time they can be. Evidence is overwhelming that the Raiders need to develop a presence in the middle. Sorry, Kirk — you’re not the monster we need in the middle.

    Almost more important than any positional need is the fact that this team lacks leadership. A guy like DeAngelo is just itching to be one, but because of his poor play to date, he’s biting his tongue. You know that’s not going to last much longer, but you also know he would’ve been much more vocal by now if he had something to crow about.

    If we do not develop real team leaders on the offensive and defensive sides of the ball — both sides — then we need to bring them in from elsewhere. Pretty tough to ask rookies to be team leaders, so our next round of free agent signings better address more than a player’s (alleged) physical ability.

  90. 4evaRaider Says:

    WHEN YOU LOOSE THEIR IS NOTHING 2 CELEBTATE WTF

  91. Yabba Dabba DOO Says:

    didnt read the article – but personally thought howard looked like a douche, celebrating tackles when we were clearly behind and outmatched like he was winning the superbowl single handily…

    thats the biggest problem with this team – it has no sense of team work, no pride, no poise, no commitment to excellence and hasnt for a long time.

    This all stems from the owners handling of players with kid gloves – not instilling discipline and team work, like most teams do.

    The night before the 2000 afc championship, the biggest in a young CB’s career, Charles Woodson was out drinking at a club in oakland where my friend was the bartender. I went down there when he called because I couldnt believe that. C-Wood didnt leave till after 1 pm. What a punk that guy is and looked like crap out on the field the next day – wonder why…

    Barret Robbins awol before the Superbowl… how the hell do you let that happen? Darrell Russell, well we all know how that turned out.

    I could go on and on and on but I wont bore you. I love my team, but our owner has let this once proud franchise disintegrate into the laughing stock it now currently is because he wont change with the times.

    These arent the days of The Snake, where guys go out and drink and play the Superbowl the next day. Als defensive and offensive mindsets are outdated at best. Until a GM who has total control over day to day football ops can come in and rework our whole coaching staff, re-organize our talent – look to building for the future and instill DISCIPLINE and inspire these guys to play as a team, every week will be just another episode of All my Children!

  92. 408RAIDER Says:

    Hey 4eva thats why you gotta be In on FF cuz then @ least you can be happy if your players do good.. BTW Dirty is going down next week!

  93. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    Hey Barney Rubble,

    Did you see the Raiders at the beginning of the season, when someone would make a key tackle or a good defensive stop? NOBODY celebrated, no pats on the back, no piling on top of JLH after a PR TD, nothing… THAT was a sign there was no “team”. Good plays should get praise regardless of the score. The last couple weeks its been nice to see some excitment from our boys, even if we’re losing.

  94. Cable in Deep Says:

    Yabba Dabba DOO Says:
    October 27th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
    ah man, cable has to go, ryan has to go we are in desperate need of a bill parcells to turn around the franchise…

    I’m here for the duration doochbag. If you’re not up with that I suggest you find yourself a new team!

  95. Yabba Dabba DOO Says:

    good players should GET praise! not celebrate for doing their JOB. When you get an order right when your working the drive in at Burger King do you spike that persons order on the floor?

  96. Yabba Dabba DOO Says:

    Cable in Deep,

    MR your shtick is old and tired, just like your mom whose basement your living in!

  97. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    it is real dumb to start predicting draft prospects and positions….please stop.

  98. 4evaRaider Says:

    HEY 408 did Dirty get sentenced??? but this aint fantasy,my brother =)

  99. Rick The Hunter Says:

    Sorry my man but Inman isnt a douche bag, he’s actually right. The last thing the Raiders shouldve been doing is celebrating for making 1 good play. Thats one of our biggest problems,,,we get outplayed, outschemed and outmaned. We let a rookie out play us not only as a quarterback, but we also let him out play us as a wide reciever. Thats nothing to celebrate about. Losers shouldnt celebrate, they should be humble, yet angry at themselves for giving a half-heart effort, yet expecting a full paycheck. Sorry my man but Inman or whatever his name is hit it on point. If I was getting my ass beat up I wouldnt celebrate for landing one good punch. Doesnt make much sense.

  100. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    Barney,

    How do they “get” praise? After the game behind the dumpster or what?

    Get loud! Get pumped! Celebrate! Have fun out there guys because getting all butt-hurt because your team finds ways to lose is not a solution. I’m in no way saying that celebrating while down by 22 does, but at least it keeps the energy level up. Besides, it’s a game Mr. Rubble…

  101. 408RAIDER Says:

    4eva

    Dirty got his sentencing pushed back till late Dec or early Jan..

    FF is fun being a rookie and in 2nd place got me talkin smack like a mofo… :P

  102. El Dirty Says:

    408

    whats up bud good win this week

  103. Cable in Deep Says:

    Yabba Dabba DOO Says:
    October 27th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
    Cable in Deep,

    MR your shtick is old and tired, just like your mom whose basement your living in!

    MR? Try again I AM Mr. Cable or Coach Cable to you.

  104. AZ-RAIDER Says:

    My boy DeAngelo is slowly starting to show up to games. He’s been looking a bit more like what we thought we were getting the last couple weeks. Get those picks though homie!

  105. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dirty

    Thax man.. Tour Next! Muhahahah

  106. willie Says:

    STR,Agree with you,we have two home games coming up,win them both,and we hit Miami at 4-5.I still think 8-8 will win the AFC West,keep the faith,nation!

  107. 408RAIDER Says:

    * your.. Doe :P

    1 would think I would @ least double check when talking smack,but, Nooooo…. LOL

  108. 408RAIDER Says:

    Willie It was all about Tequila on Sunday.. I needed the real stuff to shake off that loss

  109. antispy3 Says:

    antispy3 Says:
    October 27th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
    Where to start?

    Intimidation definitely did it’s part yesterday. You gotta “man up’ in the NFL.

    Were they confused by the Ravens schemes? I realized going in the running game would be hard to establish & field position restricted the Raiders early game play-calling but, regarding the Raiders offensive execution, in the immortal words of John McKay well, I’m all for it.

    Is it the relative (youth) of the Raiders? For a truly competative (DRuss, DeAngelo Hall, Nnamdi, Huggy Bear Jr.) sort the bigger the challenge the biggger the juice. It’s just hard to take seeing a RAIDERS team being intimidated into submission. Their second half effort was better, but by then the damage had been done.

    Hard to concoct a fair determination of Coach Cable in the driver’s seat. On the other hand road efforts in New Orleans & Baltimore leave a lot to be desired.

    last week another blogger lamented future Raider HC candidates. The names included some of the “best & Brightest” of current NFL offensive & defensive coordinators.

    Knowing what we already know & especailly following the handling of the Lane Kiffin situation what would lead anyone to suppose an “up & comer” would be interested in coming to “Oaktown?” I surely would never wish my beloved Raiders any ill harm but it just hurts knowing there is a growing legion of coaching talent reticent in starting their HC career in Oakland.

    Supposedly Jim Harbaugh, current Stanford Cardinal HC, equipped with an NFL playing & coaching pedigree (that would satisfy Don Maynard. The Ex-Jet HOF WR spoke out about the dearth of NFL background in the predominance of current NFL coaches) would be amenable th heading up the Raiders. In the immortal words of the aforementioned ‘Kif, “I’m in”!

    Perhaps Kwame Harris is the long term answer to JRuss’s backside protector. However, if all goes according to script Al will hire a new coaching staff (on offense, anyway), retarding the growth of JRuss in particular & the offense as a whole as they adjust to yet another new scheme/philosiphy.

    With that in mind they really need to target Andre Smith, Alabama LOT with the first pick in next year’s NFL entry draft. I really hate to think that far in advance (a recent mid season activity underscoring the Raiders lack of on field success. Can you say exercise in futility?) but as of recent this seems to be the next “in season” page Raider fans turn to.

    If you are going to a new offensive philosiply you may @ least go to a talented guy cutting his NFL teeth than to a guy, regardless of his obvious intelligence (Kwame Harris) whom by that time will be going through his sixth different pro scheme. Unless somehow the incoming HC will inherit the zone-blocking scheme (the NFL blocking scmene de jour. Hate to loose Greg Knapp, tom Rathman, james Lofton & John DeFilippo. Continuity is the true toolof growth in the NFL & bouncing from one philosiphy to another is a recipe for disaster.

    Tom Cable is a good enough guy that has the “love” of the OL. Well, until the Raiders can sift through the minefield that encompasses the Raiders current offensive (apt word) tackle position I solve this debacle JRuss will have to do due dilligence to his cardio work (can you say “run for your life?” Run, JRuss, run!). However, methinks he is miscast as a HC & should remain an OL coach.

    Not to mention the sieve-like run defense. Oh, I just did. An argument for another day. Enough for the negativity spewing from my computer keyboard!

    Late

    antispy3

  110. 4evaRaider Says:

    Rick the Hunter I agree I would be mad as a hive-o-hornets,not 2 mention EMBARRESSED. Good 4 you 408!!!!!!!!!!!! =)

  111. antispy3 Says:

    antispy3 Says:
    October 27th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
    Dakota

    First you indicate the Raiders should exercise frugality in free agency next off season (which may be here sooner than we would like) then you list five candidates that were either franchise or transitional free agents last year (Karlos Dansby, Jordan Gross, Albert Haynewsorth, Julian Peppers & Terrell Suggs and a sixth (Lee Evans) that just broke the bank to the tune of a big time multi year contract extension.

    I did like seeing TJ Houshmenzadeh & Mike Peterson on your list.

    Charlie (posts 315 & 420); you are preeching to the choir. The Raiders achilles heel is getting punnished on both sides of the line of scrimmage. Or has nobody noticed the success of the Tennessee Titans & New York Giants is predicated on the OL & DL? The inclusion of Andre Smith while moving Kwame Harris, a fine run blocker, to either RT or RG (the chances of retaining Cooper Carlisle after this season have to be quite small) would enhance the Raiders OL. I’ve always been a Mike Roos fan. Too bad it was the Titans that got a clue when he was available.

    VegasRaider; here is Darrius Heyward-Bey’s write-up, compliments of the SportingNews “Warroom.”

    Is a huge receiver with rare athleticism; show quick footwork, agility and speed of a much smaller man. Accelerates to full speed in a blink quickly, and shows burst out of cuts to create separation. Uses body to cut off and shield defenders from the ball, and knows how to push off defenders to create a little space. Shows very good hands; when playing with good concentration, makes tough catches seem routine. Is a dangerous runner after the catch; gets started upfield quickly, accelerates to full speed, and shows elusiveness to make tacklers miss, as well as size and strength to maintain balance and gain yards after contact. Shows good feel for finding open spaces in defenses. When blocking, usually keeps targets from impacting plays.

    Weaknesses: Does not always maintain focus on ball, leading to drops on some easy throws. For a big receiver, does not go after throws aggressively in jump-ball situations. Does not run sharp routes, hindering ability to separate from defenders. Lacks elite speed to run by defenders and consistently gain separation deep. Must stay after blocks longer and become more dominant in that area.

    Bottom line: Heyward-Bey, a junior, is expected to declare for the 2009 draft; if he does, he figures to be one of the first receivers taken. There is little doubt he has the physical tools to be a legitimate big-play threat in the NFL. However, to join the ranks of the elite, he must improve his route-running skills and show greater consistency catching the ball. He will need some time to develop in those areas, but we are confident Heyward-Bey will become a very productive starter.

    Is a huge receiver with rare athleticism; show quick footwork, agility and speed of a much smaller man. Accelerates to full speed in a blink quickly, and shows burst out of cuts to create separation. Uses body to cut off and shield defenders from the ball, and knows how to push off defenders to create a little space. Shows very good hands; when playing with good concentration, makes tough catches seem routine. Is a dangerous runner after the catch; gets started upfield quickly, accelerates to full speed, and shows elusiveness to make tacklers miss, as well as size and strength to maintain balance and gain yards after contact. Shows good feel for finding open spaces in defenses. When blocking, usually keeps targets from impacting plays.

    Weaknesses: Does not always maintain focus on ball, leading to drops on some easy throws. For a big receiver, does not go after throws aggressively in jump-ball situations. Does not run sharp routes, hindering ability to separate from defenders. Lacks elite speed to run by defenders and consistently gain separation deep. Must stay after blocks longer and become more dominant in that area.

    Bottom line: Heyward-Bey, a junior, is expected to declare for the 2009 draft; if he does, he figures to be one of the first receivers taken. There is little doubt he has the physical tools to be a legitimate big-play threat in the NFL. However, to join the ranks of the elite, he must improve his route-running skills and show greater consistency catching the ball. He will need some time to develop in those areas, but we are confident Heyward-Bey will become a very productive starter.

    Height: 6-2 Weight: 206
    40-yard dash: 4.51

    You will notice, VegasRaider, that he has timed out in the “40″ @ the aforementioned time & not 4.26. Perhaps he plays to that speed on game day. However, the Warroom did mention his lack of “elite speed’ as a weakness. Seems the 4.26 you quoted is a bit of a reach.

    Here’s (B)ESPN’s take on his performance against Wake Forest. Keep in mind (B)ESPN ranks Heyward-Bey as the 31st pick overall in next year’s NFL college entry draft;

    Maryland WR Darrius Heyward-Bey vs. Wake Forest CBs Alphonso Smith and Brandon Ghee
    Heyward-Bey caught 11 passes for 101 yards and a touchdown in the Terrapins’ surprising 26-0 win over Wake Forest. The Demon Deacons clearly respected Heyward-Bey’s considerable top-end speed because Smith and Ghee frequently gave him a healthy cushion. Unfortunately for the Wake Forest defense, Heyward-Bey and the Maryland offense did an excellent job of adjusting by attacking underneath instead of forcing the ball downfield.

    On the Terrapins’ first offensive play of the game, Heyward-Bey recognized zone coverage and settled into a soft spot before hauling the ball in for a 9-yard gain. Just two plays later, he caught a bubble screen and followed the block of WR Torrey Smith, who kicked out Ghee and led the way for another 9-yard gain. On Heyward-Bey’s fourth catch of the game, which came late in the first quarter, he ran a crisp 5-yard out and caught the ball in front of Smith, who was lined up so far off the ball that he couldn’t close in time to make the play. Heyward-Bey also did a nice job of getting both of his feet down inbounds on the play.

    Heyward-Bey’s touchdown came on his third catch of the game. He lined up opposite Ghee and, at the snap, ran a slant and got inside leverage on Ghee. Meanwhile, QB Chris Turner pitched the ball to RB Da’Rel Scott, who ran to the right before hitting Heyward-Bey for the 9-yard score. The most impressive aspect of this play was Heyward-Bey’s ball skills: He timed his jump well and aggressively snatched the ball out of the air, which was important because Scott didn’t get great zip on the pass.
    Just keeping it real!

    Late

    antispy3

  112. 4evaRaider Says:

    and FREE DIRTY!!!!!! =)=)=)

  113. willie Says:

    408RAIDER,We got our ass kicked ,lets focus on Atlanta.Tequila reminds me of the ex wife ,stayed with Vodka and beer.Im thinking Ill have one now,hair of the dog

  114. JaMarcus LEAF Says:

    I AM A BUST !

  115. 4evaRaider Says:

    jamarcus LEAF lmao =)

  116. 408RAIDER Says:

    new fix

  117. Someone with Intelligence Says:

    Yabba Dabba DON’T. As in Don’t bother reading that drivel.

  118. Grim Reaper Says:

    Scottish Raider Says:
    October 27th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
    Raiders Mock Draft (Pick No 7):

    Round One: James Laurinaitis MLB, Ohio

    Laurinaitis is a leader, a warrior, a run-stuffer and just the sort of mad, maniac we desperately need to fire up this defense. Maualuga would be the alternative.

    JL won’t go to the Raiders unless wannabe Road Warriors in the Black Hole stop mocking his dad.

  119. ggnringo Says:

    how ’bout Madsen at FB???

  120. The Molester Says:

    Indy is done.

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