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Johnson will be a marked man

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, November 8th, 2008 at 1:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Opposing passers have approached the Raiders like a shooting gallery in arcade game, with the most inviting target being the cornerback opposite Nnamdi Asomugha.

The Carolina Panthers will be no different Sunday when they visit the Raiders at the Coliseum.

With Al Davis having given up second- and fifth-round draft picks and $8 million for eight games worth of DeAngelo Hall before determining he wasn’t even remotely the lockdown corner they anticipated, they turn to a 29-year-old minimum wage journeyman making his second career start.

“I’ve been waiting on this opportunity for five years,” Chris Johnson said.

An undrafted free agent out of Louisville, Johnson spent two years with the Green Bay Packers and never got into a game because of leg injuries. His most extensive playing time was with St. Louis in 2005, where he had one start and played in 14 games.

Signed as a free agent last year, two things appealed to the Raiders about Johnson. Johnson is fast _ so fast Asomugha believes he’s the fastest player on the team. He also plays special teams, with a 99-yard kickoff return for a touchdown in St. Louis, and has played as a gunner with the Raiders.

Not exactly the resume you’d expect for a starting left cornerback, let alone one who must hold up with a good amount of man coverage opposite Asomugha. Johnson will get a heavy dose of what coach Tom Cable called the best set of starting wide receivers the Raiders have faced this season in Steve Smith and Muhsin Muhammad.

Smith has 33 receptions for 613 yards and four touchdowns despite missing two games on suspension for going Romanowski on teammate Ken Lucas.

Muhammad had 37 recetpions for 507 yards and two scores. Smith is quick, elusive and is on anyone’s list of the five most difficult one-on-one challenges in the NFL. Muhammad is bigger, more physical and an expert in using his body to get position and screen off cornerbacks.

If form holds, the Panthers will take turns with both receivers running at Johnson repeatedly and Jake Delhomme will look to his right and away from Asomugha.

Sounds like a mismatch, unless Johnson is a rare late bloomer at a position where players have usually identified themselves by their mid-20s. A Dallas resident, Johnson spent a month of his offseason along with Chargers cornerback Antonio Cromartie working with Deion Sanders.

“You’d start at 7:30 in the morning, be on the field for a few hours, then be back at 2 and go until 3:30 (p.m.),” Johnson said. “(Deion) told me to be patient, that my opportunity would come. To have a mentor like that, the best corner to ever play the game in my opinion, is good for me.”

Back to basics for defense

Sounds like there’s been some confusion on defense, and getting ripped for three early touchdowns and 57 carries for 252 yards against Atlanta brought about some changes, according to defensive tackle Gerard Warren.

“That game exposed one of our basic techniques and pretty much that’s what we’re focusing on _ simplifying the defense,” Warren said. “Maybe things were a little too complicated as far as the game plan, so we simplified things. Obviously the defense didn’t mature in the sense that Rob wanted it to. We have to scale it back down.”

Billick: Al needs some help

During an appearance on Dan Patrick’s radio show, former Ravens coach and Fox analyst Brian Billick said as gently as possible what is becoming increasingly obvious to anyone who has watched the Raiders disintegrate over the last five-plus years.

Davis needs help, and more important, needs to let someone help him. Patrick asked Billick if it would be wise for Jim Harbaugh to leave Stanford for the Raiders.

“The Raiders and Mr. Davis, who is an icon in this industry, need to find someone to partner with to rebuild a very proud franchise. It’s going to take a very special relationship, and I mean that in the sincere sense _ a partnership. I’m not sure who that partner is. Maybe that’s Jim Harbaugh, I don’t know. That’s for Mr. Davis to decide if indeed that’s the direction they want to do.

“But this next relationship does have to be a partnership because there are going to have to be some very hard decisions and some very hard action that is going to have to be taken, and it’s going to have to be done with a partnership. It can’t just be one-sided.”

Parting shot

Spare the faint praise for Davis realizing he made a mistake and then cutting his losses with Hall.

Bringing Hall in was an organizational disaster and cost the Raiders a potentially solid player with the second-round pick they traded away, all for a cornerback who couldn’t play the very technique on which Davis bases his entire defensive philosophy.

It was common knowledge Hall was not a good man-to-man defender, that he gave up too many completions, and that his best work was done breaking on plays out of a zone.

No matter. Davis had visions of Haynes-Hayes II, when what he’d really done was deal for a glorified Phillip Buchanon (who by the way has developed into a solid Cover 2 cornerback in Tampa Bay).

The reality is this _ with defensive backs having been restricted to a five-yard bump zone, playing man-to-man in modern football is much more difficult than it was in the Raiders’ glory years, and even more difficult is finding players as talented as Asomugha who can do it successfully.

Among the players who would have been available to the Raiders with the No. 34 pick which was dealt to Atlanta are the two most productive rookie wideouts in the NFL _ Denver’s Eddie Royal went at No. 42 and and Philadelphia’s DeSean Jackson at No. 49.

Or they could have had linebacker Curtis Lofton, a solid starter for Atlanta who was selected at No. 37.

Note: In earlier blog I wrote the Falcons took Lofton with the pick they got from the Raiders for Hall. In reality, they used that pick to trade up into the first round and take tackle Sam Baker and selected Lofton with their own choice.

(I’ll entertain the argument that these players wouldn’t have necessarily developed with the Raiders as they did with their respective teams).

Found it amusing that Cable would go out of his way to say Javon Walker, who received an $11 million signing bonus and $1 million in salary, has “elevated his game” of late. Chances are that vote of confidence came from Davis, who is hoping Walker can salvage what looks to be another questionable decision on a player no one else was willing to pay that kind of money.

We’ll see how elevated Walker’s game is when that $5 million roster bonus comes due.

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445 Responses to “Johnson will be a marked man”

  1. Raiderfan19 Says:

    Woot 1st

  2. ex-optimistic r8r Says:

    2

  3. Rick The Hunter Says:

    It doesnt matter who the marked man is, we’re probably gonna get demolished anyway. But I will say although I felt the Raiders shouldve released Javon Walker b4 Hall, I also feel there’s no need to pay a man 70million dollars to get burned all day when you can pay a man 700thousand dollars to get burned all day. Its more cost effective. Now maybe they’ll stop paying Walker 55million dollars to not catch a ball when they can pay someone 5million to not catch a ball. Hell,, I’ll do it for the league minimum and would probably make more plays than the scrubs we currently have on the field not making plays.

    Panthers: 31 Raiders:13

  4. La Milicia Negra Says:

    yo

    oaktown, you do realize Carter is on IR, rite?

  5. Aussie Says:

    does anyone think Nnamdi will re-sign with the Raiders?

  6. vann mcelroy Says:

    This is a good example of how backwards the organization is and what a kiss ass yes man Cable is. They are the only two people on the face of this planet who think that Walker has elevated his game. I would have kept Hall over Walker anyday. Walker is the most invisable player along with Kelly.

    Davis should be ashamed of himself and get rid of Walker, Harris, Kelly, Sam Williams immediately.

  7. Rick The Hunter Says:

    Aussie,,,
    one word: NOPE!
    He’ll get franchised again but after that he’ll be a free man. It wouldnt make any sense to re-sign with a team thats in the horrible state we’re in. This situation is headed in the same direction as Charles Woodson.

  8. dikembesaysno Says:

    Aussie, he doesn’t have much of a choice, he will likely be franchised again if he refuses to sign a long term deal.

  9. dikembesaysno Says:

    Sorry for the echo, RTH, the page hadn’t refreshed yet.

  10. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    Let the Walter era begin.

    Go Raiders!

  11. dikembesaysno Says:

    Ghost, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and guess you’re being sarcastic.

  12. Coach Elkins Says:

    Billick is a guy the NFL has tried to control simply because he is too smart for the league. No one likes a guy who knows more that they do and will tell it to your face. He is a great coach: articulate, direct, and confindent.

    Keeping this all in mind, he’s got nothing on me!

    One

  13. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    Walter gives us the best chance to win tommorow.

    Go Walter!

  14. Irish Raider Says:

    Raider Nation – anyone expecting a miracle upset tomorrow is kidding themselves. It is my belief that this year will end like 2006 (Art Shell). It can’t be worse since they have already won two games. Expect blow out after blow out as the players have quit already, the ones who haven’t will quit as soon as the score is 14 to 0 in the first quarter. Al Davis has done himself in, expect a coaching mutiny at the end of the season.
    However, Al Davis being one to always have a surprise up his sleeve I’m sure will surprise the world in the off season announcing Amy Trask as the next head coach.
    Jerry, your thoughts.
    Wish it was better in Alameda, I miss the Oakland Raiders franchise I grew up with.

  15. Eddie Anderson Says:

    It all depends on who Al brings in as coach/gm. Hopefully team nuts up and gets to 4-5 wins. Just so team doesn’t completely disintegrate. Hell, we beat Jets, so we could beat a couple other mediocre teams (Houston/KC) We will then have top 5 pick in first and second round to use on DL and OL. We’re not getting any FAs, so perhaps one of our current guys will step up at WR.

    Then you have a good coach, pray Russell/DMac work out and we break the 10 loss rut next year.

    Vann – In terms of cutting players, you can only cut when we have a better option. LTs don’t grow on trees. If Kwame is best we can do, you don’t cut him since he’s a very cheap option. Recall we had Sims last year, and I believe Kwame is as bad, or a step up. Same with Sam Williams (looks good on ST and is essentially a 3rd string LB). Maybe you cut Kelly, but he’s average, so who replaces him? Javon, tbd. Give him the MeAngelo ultimatum. Take a paycut or leave. He’s probably best of current WR group, just not worth the $.

  16. dikembesaysno Says:

    Ghost,

    It appears you’ve been hydrating with the same kool-aid Davis has Cable drinking. I realize it can’t get much worse, but if you think Andrew Walter is going to morph into the next coming of Ken Stabler behind that line, I say take put down your dixie cup, take a step back and walk away from the cooler.

  17. SECTION 226 Says:

    BILLICK IS SO SMART HE IS BROADCASTING INSTEAD OF COACHING .

  18. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    If USC(-41)could lose to Stanford last year, the Panthers can lose to the Raiders tommorow.

    Go Raiders!

  19. dikembesaysno Says:

    Ghost,

    I must say I admire your optimism, but it’s the RAIDERS my friend.

  20. Irish Raider Says:

    ghost – usc could beat the Raiders, along with many high school football teams throughout the country.

  21. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    Check the stat sheet from last week.

    Walter can’t play any worse.

    Go Raiders!

  22. dikembesaysno Says:

    Good point Irish

  23. dikembesaysno Says:

    We had stats last week?

  24. AO Says:

    gimme 5 yrs minimum and sign me as cornerback..
    matter of fact sign me in 2 yrs
    get me in the weight room
    and have nnamdi teach me a lil bit of da ropes
    and im set for bump man coverage

  25. Vinous Says:

    Jerry the 5 yd bump rule has been in place for a long, long time. The Raiders have had many shut down corners since the rule has been in place. During this decade alone the Raiders have had Woodson and Aso, two of the finest. I am not saying playing the bump and run is easy, but it is and can be done. I think the problems is a great cornerback today, must have more size than 20 years ago. It is difficult to find 6′1″, 6′2″ cornerbacks with the speed and agility to cover WRs with near world class speed. I repeat the Raiders have had two just this decade, TMac before that and so on.

  26. AO Says:

    seriously if i had the opportunity
    like hall.. even with his contract money reduced
    ill take the job serious
    and practice hard

  27. Irish Raider Says:

    ESPN REPORTING:
    Al Davis has flown in all of his former players from the last super bowl victory team and inserted them into the starting line up. He will be on the side line in his leather jump suit for kick off.

  28. Aussie Says:

    okay next question, can we afford to sign FA (Aassuming we’ll have to overypay big time to get them) and also will we have enough cap space to sign, yet another, top 5 draft choice.

    What does everyone thing of Michael Crabtree out of texas tech as first rd choice?

  29. Vinous Says:

    AS Warren said, the Raiders defense is too complicated for the level of intelligence of our players. Not something you’d think they would admit to. Some much for the typical poster that thinks all we do is rush 4 and play man to man.

  30. Irish Raider Says:

    Aussie – it doesn’t matter – he won’t come to Oakland anyway.

  31. dikembesaysno Says:

    No Nylon? Damn he must be serious.

  32. Irish Raider Says:

    It’s not the players are stupid – how do you expect the young video game generation to understand a defense as old as pong.

  33. dikembesaysno Says:

    Nostalgia is the Raiders worst enemy.

  34. Irish Raider Says:

    I agree – Al is living in the past – I don’t care what they did than – it’s now that I care about. Al doesn’t get it.

  35. AO Says:

    Irish, I actually think my game is better because of madden. haha.. no lie.. i pry wouldnt be a fast learner during practice or understand how to read offenses if i didnt play madden

  36. Irish Raider Says:

    Obviously the raider players have been banned from playing madden.

  37. dikembesaysno Says:

    Go out and win a high school track meet AO and there’s a damn good chance Al would sign you.

  38. AO Says:

    Irish haha! are you inferring that raiders suck on madden so we shouldnt play it? i actually kill with the raiders despite being the 3rd sorriest team on the game haha.. if the person im playing likes passing the ball.. i average 3-6 interceptions haha.. and i make jamarcus look like an all star.

    dikembesaysno.. lmao

  39. Rick The Hunter Says:

    Crabtree will be the 1st choice if he’s there when we pick, if not then Rey Mauoluga might be a our choice. After that I say we stock pile the O & D line in rnds 2-4, assuming we dont trade em again for another high-priced overrated player, or Al doesnt fall in love with a corner who runs a 4.2 in the combine.

    Panthers:31 Raiders:13

  40. Irish Raider Says:

    ESPN REPORTING:
    Al Davis is in negotiations with the remaining teams on the schedule. He has offered the remainder DeAngelos Halls contract money for any team who promises not to beat the Raiders this year. Rumors have it that Mike Shanahan is taking the bait.

  41. Irish Raider Says:

    Ao, actually referring that the raider players could increase their game if they played madden too.

  42. AO Says:

    Irish, I read your previous comment wrong. I thought you said “raider fans” instead you said “raider players”

  43. Irish Raider Says:

    no worries

  44. dikembesaysno Says:

    I just looked at our draft history since ‘03…here’s one of the many reasons Al can’t build a winning team.

  45. Brien(I hate Big Ten football) Says:

    Real fans wanna see the big 12 vs SEC in the BCS title game!!

  46. Irish Raider Says:

    iowa??? – I thought this was raiders blog

  47. dikembesaysno Says:

    We had 10 draft picks in ‘03, of which 2 are starters, Nnamdi and Justin Fargas. Only one other pick is still on the team, regrettably everyone’s favorite LB, Sam Williams.

  48. dikembesaysno Says:

    Brien,

    Real fans know what blog to post on.

  49. Irish Raider Says:

    draft ‘03 – I can’t even remember who al pretended the coach was that year.

  50. Al Davis INC Says:

    by some of the crap comments posted here dont think so

  51. AO Says:

    im looking foward to the cal-usc game.
    ima cal fan:)
    i was a lil mad after last years draft
    that we traded our 2nd round pick
    and desean jackson got picked a couple picks after our 2nd round pick
    ..if i think about it.. im more mad now since we dnt even got hall anymore

  52. Irish Raider Says:

    Sorry Mr. Davis, I didn’t know you were blogging.

  53. Al Davis INC Says:

    pay attention….do I need my projector?

  54. Irish Raider Says:

    lol

  55. Rick The Hunter Says:

    I wonder if Jim Harbagh will be crazy enough to take the Raiders job since its been reported that he’s our primary target thus far. We know no NFL coach or coordinator will jump into this hot tub of mess.

  56. dikembesaysno Says:

    Na, you just need “cause.”

  57. Irish Raider Says:

    I can’t understand why he would want to I know he respects Al greatly – but what makes him think he has a better chance of success than anyone else.

  58. AO Says:

    cause with quotations lmao

  59. dikembesaysno Says:

    Brien,

    You should learn how to spell or make friends with the mod…either way Iowa won, so congrats.

  60. This Whole Situation is a Circus and the Big Tent is Ready to Fold Says:

    Raiderfan19 Says:
    November 8th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
    Woot 1st

    ex-optimistic r8r Says:
    November 8th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
    2

    WUZZIES!

  61. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    I’m starting Walter over Rodgers in my FFL tommorow.

    Go Walter!

  62. Brien(I Hate Big Ten Football) Says:

    Dike, do you want to meet me at the Velvet lounge tomorrow for the game.

  63. Brien(I Hate Big Ten Football) Says:

    Afterwards we could make out at my place.

  64. Irish Raider Says:

    I heard Andrew Walter is going to fake the stomach flu tomorrow so he doesn’t have to take a beating and ruin his chances of signing on with someone else next season.

  65. This Whole Situation is a Circus and the Big Tent is Ready to Fold Says:

    The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:
    November 8th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
    Walter gives us the best chance to win tommorow.

    Go Walter!

    What’s Walters record as a starter again?

  66. dikembesaysno Says:

    Ignorance is bliss huh?

  67. Al Davis INC Says:

    it cant get much worse than last weeks qb play, so walter will look all world with 10 completions

  68. Brien(I hate Big Ten football) Says:

    ooooooh now we got a troll…….how nice

  69. Brien(I hate Big Ten football) Says:

    post 70=yawwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn

  70. dikembesaysno Says:

    So true Al

  71. dikembesaysno Says:

    post 73 – thanks for proving my point

  72. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Irish Raider Says:
    November 8th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    iowa??? – I thought this was raiders blog
    _____________________________________________________

    this is so funny in so many ways =)

    then add Dakota, Aussie, Swiss-, England-, scottish-raider and all the other raiders out there – oh and me =)

  73. dikembesaysno Says:

    Reposting of predictions for tomorrow’s game:

    1. Rashad Baker, upon his activation, hires a shaman to bring the team some good luck and in doing so conjures the abilities of Ronnie Lott, he quickly establishes himself as a cornerstone at strong safety and is rewarded with a $70 million contract after the game. Unfortunately, he loses his ring finger on a routine tackle in the third quarter.

    2. An anonymous source leaks that Rob Ryan has been calling the plays on both sides of the ball, John Herrara gets wind and punches out a Raiderette during the halftime show, claiming she was a spy for Tim Kawakami.

    3. Michael Waddell forgets he plays cornerback and runs a fade route on a Panters 4th and 4, extending a Panthers drive that sees Jeff King score from the wildcat formation.

    4. It is discovered in the fourth quarter at the 2 min warning that Jamarcus Russell is in fact left handed and is not an ambi-turner.

    Who’s excited?

  74. AO Says:

    lmfao!!!!

  75. Irish Raider Says:

    gotta go now – meeting al for dinner wants to talk to me about cloning him so he can coach and be general manager at the same time. That way he’ll never have pay another coach again.

  76. Crimedog Says:

    Read an article saying McFadden could possible be shut down for the year to let he turf toe heal. Not against that too much considering we suck but Darren needs to suck it up. Never hurt in college now gets turf toe in both toes. Jesus.

  77. Al Davis INC Says:

    mcfaddin needs to heal, but how much is him and how much is injury.
    these players are puzzies, look at the record its easy to see that

  78. Crimedog Says:

    If he is shut down for the year, we better not hear about turf toe ever again from him. If he gets it again, might as well cut him too.

  79. Charged Up! Says:

    I am stoked about tomorrow. Lets get Charged Up! Chargers 31, Chiefs 0

  80. Charged UP! Says:

    I am stoked about tomorrow. Lets get Charged Up! Chargers 31, Chiefs 0

    It’s the rest of the schedule that has me crapping my pants!

  81. SECTION 226 Says:

    GO CHIEF’S !!!

  82. Voldemort Says:

    McFadden is a beast who had a couple of unfortunate injuries. It’s not his fault he’s hurt, turf toe is a freak deal, and he got 2 of them. When he’s healthy he will be a beast again. Whoever sais we should cut McFadden is almost as foolish as Al Davis.(no one can be AS foolish as that man) Draftbustus Russell on the other hand, the sooner he is gone, the better off we will be. Unless they do a Vince Young to him, and this time when he’s on the sideline make him PAY ATTENTION AND LEARN THE GAME! I would love to see Draftbustus succeed in the future, but I don’t think it will happen. McFadden pretty much single handedly won the only 2 games we have won this year.

  83. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    CHARGED UP:

    You’re kind of lost but then you would be.
    Thigpen is going to have some fu tomorrow with that defense you’ve got.

    I’m picking KC (and the 15 1/2 points).

    GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  84. Bench JaMarcus Says:

    It’s looks like Walter is starting and even PFT is saying the Raiders have a better chance with Walter. Maybe Dr Al doesn’t want to take any chance with his $60 million man JaMarcus … mystery injury benches JR … best Raider news I heard in awhile.
    Please don’t flame me until after the Panthers game because I have been right 3 weeks in arow. I predicted Flacco and Ryan will outplay JaMarcus and Quinn makes Al look back in his first start with the Browns.

  85. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Moss, Randy WR NE ->BUF
    Washington, Nate WR PIT ->IND
    Avery, Donnie WR STL ->@NYJ

    my last two spots, who would you start, passD for the teams is, 12th, 16th and 19th.. I am considering to bench Moss, BUF has the best passD and he was injured during the weak.. Jets suck, and Indi’s D is weird right now.. its quite a predicament, pweeze help =)

    Im a rookie FFL participant and I need all the help i can get, pathet!c yeah I know =)

  86. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    Voldemolt – You 100% right, it’s not Mcfadden’s fault.

    It’s Kiffin fault.

    He should have never played in the Buffalo game.

    SABATOGE!

    Go Raiders!

  87. Voldemort Says:

    Draftbustus Russell sorta makes you miss Josh McCown doesn’t he? I’ll tell you what, it really makes me miss Kiffin! This team was so much better last year, and even better than that at the start of this year. GOD DAVIS IS STUPID!!!!!!!

  88. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    McFadden’s the real deal alright. Out of all the additions to the team in the last two years-he’s the best. Don’t think he’s much good up the middle but when he’s out in the open–watch out! Of course, that only happens when he actually plays. Can’t say that I recall someone getting turf toe with both toes though.
    How come Woodson could play with turf toe? Tougher?

  89. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    You can see now why Kiffin insisted on playing McCown.

  90. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Terribly disapointed in Stan Routt.

    WTF? This was supposed to be his year. Hall was supposedto play better meaning teams would go more 3 wide and pick on Stan giving him a chance to make a name, but nooooo. Routt can’t even give a **** on s[ecial teams and when he did get in, couldn’t make the pick and got burned on 2 costly TDs.

    This team needs discipline and accountability.

    NOW.

  91. Voldemort Says:

    I bet Russell isn’t even hurt, they just don’t want to humiliate him by telling the media that he’s being benched due to piss-poor play, though, it would be hard to humiliate him any more than he has already humiliated himself. It’s no secret that he is pathetic, unless you’re as dillusional as that Darkknight idiot that was arguing with me earlier. COME ON ANDREW, LEAD US BACK TO SOME RESPECTABILITY!

  92. 408RAIDER Says:

    GO BEARS!

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  94. JON GRUDEN Says:

    …my curse continues Are you enjoying it?

  95. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Bench JaMarcus Says:
    November 8th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
    It’s looks like Walter is starting and even PFT is saying the Raiders have a better chance with Walter. Maybe Dr Al doesn’t want to take any chance with his $60 million man JaMarcus … mystery injury benches JR … best Raider news I heard in awhile.
    Please don’t flame me until after the Panthers game because I have been right 3 weeks in arow. I predicted Flacco and Ryan will outplay JaMarcus and Quinn makes Al look back in his first start with the Browns.
    ——————————————————-

    http://www.raidernationstation.com

    “Comparing Russell to Flacco and Ryan flawed logic”

    1. Russell came out a Junior.

    2. Flacco has the support of the #1 defense in the League. Feild position and very little need to put up tons of point with his arm.

    3. Ryan has the #2 rushing game in the League. Play action, 1 on 1 match ups as they crowd the box and a top flight WR option.

    4. Russell has the WORST tackle tandem in the League

    5. Quinn has Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow Jr and was “the most NFL ready QB” coming out of the draft and ND and got to sit a year to prep.

    6. Russell has no wide outs. They can’t get separation when they manage to make the field and then can’t catch.

    **** the whole uninformed Russell sucks routine.

    Facts and logic.

    You can throw numbers all you want, but its subjective to what the mans working with.

    He can’t throw it and catch it nor block for himself.

  96. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Russell needs all the live fire reps he can get. I’d be surprised if they benched him but it would show the desperation they feel about posting some “W’s”.

    Who knows? Walters had enough time to learn some ****. Still, he’ll need help from his receivers.

    Fargas has been awful on screens and that will need to change.

    One of Gallery’s flaws was his inability to get second level. Thats changed this year and he’s much better. Look for it tomorrow.

  97. Voldemort Says:

    I agree Russell should not be compared to Flacco and Matt Ryan. THEY’RE ROOKIES, RUSSELL IS NOT! He cabe compared to Quinn, if you feel like insulting Quinn that is. I know I would be insulted to be mentioned in the same sentence as Draftbustus Russell, and I don’t even play anymore.

  98. Voldemort Says:

    If you want to compare Russell to Ryan, then try Ryan Leaf.

  99. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    I’m starting Walter over Brees in my FFL.

    Go Walter!

  100. 408RAIDER Says:

    come on BEARS!

  101. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Voldemort Says:
    November 8th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
    I agree Russell should not be compared to Flacco and Matt Ryan. THEY’RE ROOKIES, RUSSELL IS NOT! He cabe compared to Quinn, if you feel like insulting Quinn that is. I know I would be insulted to be mentioned in the same sentence as Draftbustus Russell, and I don’t even play anymore.

    ——————————————————

    Sorry for trying to confuse you with relevent facts.

  102. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    The Raiders have a better chance of beating the Panthers than Cal has against SC.

    Go Raiders!

  103. Tom Cables Monday Hangover Says:

    Nnamdi21
    Fact is Walter did more with the bed and breakfast offense of the 70’s than Russell has done with an up to date offense. Which by the way he can’t understand all.

  104. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    I’m getting Walter Mania!

    Go Raiders!

  105. Tom Cables Monday Hangover Says:

    Ghost your in trouble with your FFL, but I am starting Delome? spelling may be off oh well. We are in for a long day.

  106. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    I disagree. Walter has been itching to get his chance and I think he is going to lead us to victory tommorow.

    Go Raiders!

  107. Charged Up! Says:

    Gonzales owns us and if Thigpen can get him the ball tomorrow we’re 3-6 but we can still win the SB so I’m not worried.

  108. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    Russell’s not ready. Anybody can see that. Right now, he gives the Raiders NO CHANCE to win. It’s not Russell’s fault – Kiffin retarded him. After a little time with an NFL coach he will come into his own. As for this year, Russell needs to sit.(see Young and Lienert)

    Andrew Walter gives the Raiders the best chance to win this year. This is the NFL. No one player is above the team. No matter what the player’s salary and what position he was drafted in, if you are not getting it done – sit down and give the next guy a shot.

    Stranger things have happended.

    Go Raiders!

  109. Oaktown Raiders Says:

    JaMarcus Leaf!

  110. Oaktown Raiders Says:

    Raiders by 3 points over the Cats. Jano wins it with a 50+ yarder FG in the 4th with 2 seconds left on a Walter 2 minutes drill drive.

  111. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    Thank god I didn’t throw away my Walter jersey!

    Go Raiders!

  112. Oaktown Raiders Says:

    Ghost .. you mean the retro Jim Plunket No.16 Jersey.

  113. Oaktown Raiders Says:

    I’m a Daryle Lamonica guy. Too bad there isn’t No.3.

  114. K-Rock Says:

    Draft Harrell

  115. Voldemort Says:

    Nnamdi21 are you trying to say something similar to Darkknight the fool? Are you actually going to argue on behalf of Draftbustus? I think it is an insult to compare Draftbustus to any active QB, rookie or not. And the people who “consider Draftbustus a rookie” are fooling themselves. He is not a rookie, he had a year to watch. He showed his stupidity/personality/commitment/leadership in a bright light when he decided to spend his rookie season holding for more money and buying suits and bling instead of studying football and preparing to lead a once proud franchize back to glory. I don’t want to sound racist, but he did what most black QBs do, which is why, historicaly, blaxk QB’s don’t succeed, with the exception of Donavan McNabb, but listen to him speak, and then listen to Draftbustus speak. McNabb is a well spoken, educated individual, who clearly has a brain. Draftbustus on the other hand, you can barley understand him and you can tell he is trying his best just not to say the “N word” after every other word. He is an idiot and a bust, get over it and move on, or suffer the consequences.

  116. K-Rock Says:

    # Voldemort Says:
    November 8th, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    Nnamdi21 are you trying to say something similar to Darkknight the fool? Are you actually going to argue on behalf of Draftbustus? I think it is an insult to compare Draftbustus to any active QB, rookie or not. And the people who “consider Draftbustus a rookie” are fooling themselves. He is not a rookie, he had a year to watch. He showed his stupidity/personality/commitment/leadership in a bright light when he decided to spend his rookie season holding for more money and buying suits and bling instead of studying football and preparing to lead a once proud franchize back to glory. I don’t want to sound racist, but he did what most black QBs do, which is why, historicaly, blaxk QB’s don’t succeed, with the exception of Donavan McNabb, but listen to him speak, and then listen to Draftbustus speak. McNabb is a well spoken, educated individual, who clearly has a brain. Draftbustus on the other hand, you can barley understand him and you can tell he is trying his best just not to say the “N word” after every other word. He is an idiot and a bust, get over it and move on, or suffer the consequences.
    …………..

    OMG! LMFAO!

  117. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    Voldemort – You are a racist.

    Go Raiders!

  118. DT 42 Says:

    Voldemort please put your McCain/Palin sign and step away from the computer ok?

    go back and look at the previous posts during the OTA’s and pre-season. Russell was always complimented by his coaches for working hard and being focused in the offseason. Look at some of the circumstances that have happened.
    1. Drew Carter (who was brought in to start at WR) blows his knee out. Ok one possible key player gone.
    2. Walker gets beat down in Vegas. Count with me Voldemort, thats your TWO starting WR’s either out physically and/or mentally (Walker) out before the season started.
    3. Curry is having a horrible year. He hit the weight room during the off season and it backfired.
    So now the passing attack is going to rely on Higgins and a street free agent (Lelie) to power it because Miller is gonna be doubled and bracketed all day long. (go and google those terms, there football terms and i don’t expect you to understand them).
    As far as the whole black qb thing, historically there aren’t many black qb’s to compare but i’m sure your right man i remember watching that hack Warren Moon he was horrible. So was Doug Williams wow he was pretty stupid too huh? I don’t know how he won a Superbowl, must have been all of those dumb black defensive backs just letting him win. Wow Voldmort shouldn’t you be getting ready for date night with your daughter/wife/3rd cousin and guarding your moonshine still instead of giving us such insightful analysis on the Raiders?

  119. dikembesaysno Says:

    For once, I actually agree with Ghost, Voldemort you are indeed a racist

  120. R.A.W. Says:

    Who Should we draft?

    WR Michael Crabree from Texas Tech
    Or
    WR Darrius Heyward-Bey
    Or even
    WR/PR Percy Harvin from Florida?

    Michael Crabtree is the better all around WR while Heyward-Bey and Harvin are more of speedsters. Heyward-Bey has the better size compared with Harvin though.

    Those are the current projected highest rank WR’s (If they declare for) in the draft.

  121. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    We should trade down for more picks.

    Go Raiders!

  122. dikembesaysno Says:

    R.A.W.

    I like Crabtree, he’s got size, speed, hands and runs a good route, you watching this game right now?

  123. dikembesaysno Says:

    I’m afraid if we don’t get some line help though, it won’t matter who we have playing WR

  124. DT 42 Says:

    since we are talking about the Tech game what do you think about Tech’s Oline? unreal splits between the linemen. Gives the QB very clear passing lanes. The kid you want to check out is the LT for Baylor. He has potential.

  125. Oaktown Raiders Says:

    Crabtree run a 40’s 4.55. Too slow… Mike Williams territory.

  126. Oaktown Raiders Says:

    Just get the OL guys FAs. They are all vets. If it don’t work out let them go and sign another. We’d cannot afford another Gallery.

  127. DT 42 Says:

    good point Oaktown i still want to see what Henderson can do then i could live with Harris on the right side until the end of the season.

  128. R.A.W. Says:

    dikembesaysno

    Naw I aint watchin the game rite now, but I was watching last week’s and he was getting open.

    True, we gonna need a better o-line, but if you really think about the situation, the only position in our o-line that is horrible the tackles positions. We could always draft a OT in the second round and search in FA. I don’t think Al Davis has forgotten Robert Gallery yet (Yes, Gallery is solid as a LG but he was drafted to be a LT).

    Also, I would be content if we drafted an LT in the 1st round and traded for Ocho-cinco (Though I don’t think it’s a good idea, at least we’ll have a WR that demands respect on the field)

    We also gotta release Javon Walker, too much money for no talent

  129. Whiff24 Says:

    We need 10 new players – complete overhauls of the offensive and defensive lines. Let Namdi go – he does us no good. We don’t need to pay him 12 million next year to hold out and then run around on one side of the field while we get torched everywhere else. This team is years away from competeing, we might as well stat by paying a top LT and two DTs. Of course we’ve been drafting every bust in the draft for about ten years now so… I dunno.

  130. Oaktown Raiders Says:

    Walker gotta go… look at his production. He wants to retire so be it.

  131. dikembesaysno Says:

    Oaktown,

    We need to stop using speed as our number one priority when drafting players…we do it every year and what do we have to show for it? Stanford Routt? Fabian Washington? John Bowie? You want a team full of track stars or football players?

  132. dikembesaysno Says:

    R.A.W.

    I agree we come pick up some O-line help either via free agency, or 2 rd of the draft. My hope is Davis brings in some one to make the personnel decisions.

  133. Oaktown Raiders Says:

    Ala Chad Johnson is injury prone. We’d got another Walker and Carter issues next season. Raiders gotta go after the healthy guys FAs. Why the big bucks for injury prone players? Nobody wants to come to the Raiders.. that’s how I see it. Just give other no names a chance to play in the NFL like old school FA signings. We’d save a ton of FA money too.

  134. typicalraiders Says:

    bunch of idiots j russ a bust?
    how about the raiders been a bust?
    javon wheelchair great receiver hahahah decent not even 3 string maybe
    should i talk about the other recievers? yeah exactly
    how about that wonderful o-line
    how about the fact we lost r fullback for the season.
    how about the fact that theres a reason schillens was drafted in the 7th round.
    bums for receivers. a sorry o-line
    how about r new leader al jr i mean tom cable
    where were these post the 1st 4 games when the coach we had who may have had a mouth that spoke the truth well spoke the truth he said its not that jamarcus aint ready its the talent around him that will make him not ready. so go head talk about walters lets see if you idiots post tomorrow if walters starts

  135. It was a Fumble Says:

    # Voldemort Says:
    November 8th, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    I don’t want to sound racist,……………..
    —————————————————

    You don’t sound like a racist. You sound more like a complete grade A moron who doesn’t know anything. I don’t know which is worse.

  136. dikembesaysno Says:

    134, I’m with you dude..

  137. Oaktown Raiders Says:

    That’s true. We’d shouldn’t emphasize on speed too much when the WRs ain’t even getting the yardages. Crabtree might be a good fit here.

  138. R.A.W. Says:

    dikembesaysno,

    I don’t think Davis will bring in some to make personnel Decisions, though we as raider fans are hoping someone, anyone, like Tim Brown, can help the raiders in some way.

    Also to your # 131

    True, we should stop drafting as speed. But we should make that a high priority when draftin WR’s cuz J-rock got an cannon for an arm. I think we could be a threat if we had two good OT’s, 1 good DT (T.Kelly aint’ plaing up to expectations), 1 MLB (shirft Kirk to Strong side), and 1 WR.

  139. dikembesaysno Says:

    werd Oaktown

  140. Norco_Bob Says:

    Wish the NFL would allow the Raiders to just forfeit the rest of the year,..I dont want to go tomorrow….but am glad Russell isnt playing,…if I get close enough to him during pregame warmups I will make sure he hears me yell at him he will go down in NFL history as the biggest draft bust ever.

  141. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    AO – Did Cal win????

    Go Raiders!

  142. Norco_Bob Says:

    Russell will never be as good as Walter,..and Walter sucks.

  143. Irish Raider Says:

    ESPN REPORTING:
    Al Davis has just officially negotiated a trade of all 53 active players for Tom Brady who is expected to start tomorrow.

  144. McMarcus Says:

    So rob ryan is simplifying the “always rush 4″ defense. what the hell is he going to call now? “everyone run to the football”?

  145. dikembesaysno Says:

    R.A.W.

    I don’t want to discredit speed, obviously for WRs it’s extremely important. BUT look for the guys who know how to use that speed to get open, change direction, run the route to perfection. AND then have the hands to bring the ball in. Remember for example Tim Brown, Jerry Rice? Not the fastest guys, but smart and savvy.

  146. AO Says:

    post #129, are serious about letting nnamdi go? he’s a shut down corner homie.

  147. Irish Raider Says:

    the new defense is the same they just changed the name to “roll over and quit” that way they’ll always be a perfect defensive unit.

  148. McMarcus Says:

    “so we are going to make the game plan even more simple fellas”… “we are going prevent on every snap”…

  149. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    Bite your toungue.

    Walter is the man.

    Walter Mania is running wild.

    Go Raiders!

  150. AO Says:

    post #142, did USC win?

  151. dikembesaysno Says:

    I heard Rob Ryan is going to start calling defensive signals by doing the robot. Pop’n lock son!

  152. McMarcus Says:

    we are going to rush the ends, and send sands and kelly out behind them running backs… cant miss, its a shut out!

  153. Oaktown Raiders Says:

    Speed is always rank high for WRs from me.. that’s how it goes.. second is hands .. catching and tucking the ball to get the yardages.

  154. Norco_Bob Says:

    crud

  155. Irish Raider Says:

    if speed is a high rank than Javon should go – he couldn’t seperate himself from Al Davis on valium.

  156. dikembesaysno Says:

    Texas Tech could totally beat us, along with a few other top college programs.

  157. Norco_Bob Says:

    ESPN just reported that Russell is officially a bust.

  158. dikembesaysno Says:

    Norco,

    Your originality continues to amaze me.

  159. R.A.W. Says:

    dikembesaysno

    Agreed. Then does that mean you are in with drafting Crabtree?

  160. Irish Raider Says:

    maybe they should line up Turd-ell sands as running back like the bears did refrigerator perry.

  161. dikembesaysno Says:

    R.A.W.

    If he comes out, I think he is the best option at the WR position. BUT, I am not opposed to trying to get more picks in the first round as another option.

  162. MR's Troll Patrol Says:

    Thank you Irish. I’ll go with that.

  163. Irish Raider Says:

    always knew there was more to norco than chicken farms- great intellect too.

  164. dikembesaysno Says:

    Norco,

    Save “the bird” for your man Al, not Jamarcus. He created this mess, we so unwittingly refer to as a “team.”

  165. Norco_Bob Says:

    Well the ONLY reason me and my peeps are attending game manana is to give ot to Russell loudly during pregame warmups,…he will hear what we think of his big fat sorry aaaassss….will tell him we dont want him,…never did,..we wanted Quinn,..we will tell him he will go down in history forever,..will tell him he will be out of the league within 3 years,…yes, thats the only reason we are going tomorrow.

  166. Irish Raider Says:

    norco- do you think quinn will perform amiracle for the browns “manana”

  167. Irish Raider Says:

    norco – you are first class all the way.

  168. dikembesaysno Says:

    Norco,

    So when Andrew Walter becomes a permanent fixture on the ground courtesy of Julius Pepper and co. I assume you will be calling for Tui? Yea, that makes the most sense. It wouldn’t have anything to do with the fact our QBs, no matter which one, is playing behind the worst tackle tandem in the NFL. Na, that would only make sense (BTW that’s called sarcasm, it’s what us educated folk use to mock ignorant dumb**** like you).

  169. Norco_Bob Says:

    Yes I am,..I guess,..unsure the remark,..was it sincere or was that sarcasm?….either way Im goin after russell tomorrow.

  170. Ajoakraider Says:

    we’re in bad shape if u think walter is the answer he sucks Russell will start and if the
    offensive line shows up to play he’ll play well, Offensive line folks it’s not the qb like i said Walter sucks. Russell gives us the best chance to win not Walter. if he starts we’ll get blown out.

    Go Raiders
    4-ever

  171. Norco_Bob Says:

    Dik theres no reason for you to be mad,…its not on tv so if you live in the area you wont have to watch it,..but I will be there and not for the usual reason, which is to get wasted,..tomorrow Im on a mission,..to let russell know we all know hes a bust,..I hope all his teammates here me too,..hope hes standing next to a few when I unload,..they will secretky agree with me…

  172. Huff24 Says:

    (2) Texas Tech 56 – 20 (9) Oklahoma St.

    Texas Tech is now 10-0 by destroying another ranked team.

    Michael Crabtree
    REC YDS AVG TD LG
    8 89 11.1 3 18

    This guy has Jerry Rice attributes. He may never live up to that in the NFL but hes great in college.

  173. Irish Raider Says:

    good one 177 – well I’m out of here, time to go rewind the vhs tape for al so he can watch his last super bowl victory again. Maybe i’ll trick him and put in my daughters Barney dvd. norco- you’re still first class even if you’re a drunken moron. I hope jamarcus leaps up in the stands and slams his helmut across your head. Have fun choking your chicken tonite.

  174. Ajoakraider Says:

    i will be watching it i have directv. in live in San Diego
    hahaha

  175. Norco_Bob Says:

    AJ,..this just in,..russell sucks…..cut his big fat sorry aaassssss….

  176. Ajoakraider Says:

    sunday ticket love it

  177. dikembesaysno Says:

    Norco,

    I’m not mad, I just question if you know anything about football?

  178. DemRaiderz Says:

    He couldn’t be any worse than Chris Johnson.

  179. Coach Elkins Says:

    Is it raining in Oakland?

  180. Norco_Bob Says:

    You have the sunday ticket and you will watch it?…why?…you have all those games and you choose to watch the worst one on?…hahaha…you are clearly a loser.

  181. Ajoakraider Says:

    Norco_Bob why u hate russell so much he’s only started eight games. Look at eli Manning he sucked for like 2 yrs
    now he has a superbowl. give the man a chance.

  182. Norco_Bob Says:

    Dik you are mad,..obviously….get over it,..the Raiders suck,..just live with it.

  183. Ajoakraider Says:

    Loser. your the loser Narco- and u a narc or something
    punk

  184. Ajoakraider Says:

    R U even a Raiders Fan if not stay the fuk off the blog
    Narc!

  185. Norco_Bob Says:

    AJ,..russell sucks and so do you if you support that f`n loser,..i hate that he was ever drafted,..we could have drafted quinn,…russell sets this team back 6 years….guess 61 million dollars just doesnt buy you what it used to.

  186. Huff24 Says:

    Notre Dame lost 17-0. Why can’t I have a good football team? FUK!

  187. Norco_Bob Says:

    AJ,..having trouble reading?…its norco,..I pop norcos…not narco,..hey maybe you are like russell and cant read!!! lmao

  188. dikembesaysno Says:

    Norco,

    I’m mad? You’re the one who’s going to the game for the sole reason of ragging on Jamarcus. You’re pathetic.

  189. Ajoakraider Says:

    fuk Quinn, and every Qb in the league. this is the kind of fan im am if your on the raiders then i support u if u play for someonelse fuk him i hate every other nfl team in the league except for the best team in the nfl the Oakland Raiders period. thats the reason i have directv
    to watch what the hell u think i bought it for in wack san diego.

  190. Ajoakraider Says:

    i called you narco on purpose punk

  191. dikembesaysno Says:

    Ajo,

    There’s no use trying to explain anything to Norco. He’ a moron plain and simple.

  192. Ajoakraider Says:

    If your going to the game and rag on Russell Narco i hope Raider nation jump yo ass. teach u a lesson

  193. Ajoakraider Says:

    your right dikem, dont even know why i’m responding to this cat he’s a waist of time.

  194. MR's Troll Patrol Says:

    Norco is so far gone, nothing can bring his sorry ass back. But one more middle finger at him for the road!

  195. dikembesaysno Says:

    MR TP,

    I’ll join you on that one!

  196. MR's Troll Patrol Says:

    Norco is a POS.

  197. Ajoakraider Says:

    anyone know who’s winning the fight hope jones gets hime

  198. Norco_Bob Says:

    AJ,..they have been doing that,..russell gets boo`d walking on the field,..hes hated there,….some fan tossed his russell jersey on the field last sunday,…I was never stupid enough to buy a russell jersey,..nobody at the coliseum likes russell,..I will be cheered for what i will be doing tomorrow,..I will be a hero.

  199. MR Says:

    No you won’t, you’ll be there, what you are here: a stupid foolish drunken moron we like to piss all over.

  200. Charged Up! Says:

    Okay you dumb Raider fans. I’ve got a buzz going from Thunderbird Wine, I’ve got a hot rocker chick in my bed that makes Phyllis Diller look hot, the only CD I have is the Jonas Brothers and I have to play it over and over, and I’m scared to death what Gonzales is going to do to my sucky defense. And if you really want to know the truth I’m scared as hell that my Bolts will never win a SB in my lifetime. So go ahead and laugh at me all you want because I’ll never see any of you fools in person anyway.

  201. dikembesaysno Says:

    the Jonas Brothers, hahahahahahah

  202. Charged Up! Says:

    And what kind of music do you listen to?

  203. Charged Up! Says:

    And did I mention that the disgusting chick in my bed is wearing a plastic strap on for some funky action?

  204. ToozFan Says:

    we’ve handled Jamarcus poorly from the get go, we should have never let him miss training camp his rookie year, and this year we get little help on the o-line and even less help w/ the recieving corps.
    This kid has been jerked around pretty good by this team, so back off.
    It’s almost as is some of you want him to fail, to make you feel better about yourselves…what’s up w/ that?

  205. Charged Up! Says:

    I guess I forgot to mention that she can take her dentures out too.

  206. Al Davis INC Says:

    very nice mr…charged up is actually almost more pathetic than normal

  207. Ajoakraider Says:

    Russell has the best arm in the nfl we’ll see when the offensive lines shows up and protects him and the recievers can separate. then ya’ll be on his jock
    we need zach miller to have a big game he’s the only reliable reciever we have

  208. Al Davis INC Says:

    haha the best lol doh

  209. Norco_Bob Says:

    AJ ,…I think you are retarded so I will take it easy on you,…best arm?…is that what the nfl is all about?..the guy with the strongest arm?…lol,…try again,…you can hold on to tm,…and that desperate notion,…however the facts are in,…Russell is the worst top ick ever,..live with it,..I have,..but will go after him full throttle tomorrow…then Im done with him,..and he wont be a Raider next year.

  210. Norco_Bob Says:

    Andy Walter I am awsre you suck,…but you are the best we have,…I know you will be great tomorrow,..we trust in you Andy,..we all hate jamarcus russell.

  211. Al Davis INC Says:

    hey norco tell em something for me?
    hey jambusto….ur one stupid tool, you should have stayed in college

  212. Al Davis INC Says:

    Adrew will make jambusto sit for good norco

  213. Norco_Bob Says:

    Ok Al,..but he never went to college,..just showed up for practice and games,…he cant read….but he can hear, and I will let him have it tomorrow….I am happy we all agree to hate him.

  214. Al Davis INC Says:

    sure will be nice to see a guy play with some pasion and love for the game….by elbusto may you never dress for a game again

  215. Seattle Raider Says:

    Gannon, Garner, Brown, Rice, Porter. SIGH!

  216. Al Davis INC Says:

    yea i know norco, obvious he wasnt learning anything there at lsu, lucky he got a good agent or al would have chester mcglocked his azz

  217. Norco_Bob Says:

    Al,…russell is done,..he will never play for us again,…he will get another shot somewhere,…but hes done on the nfl as a starter,…we all hate his guts.

  218. Al Davis INC Says:

    agreed

  219. Norco_Bob Says:

    I dont care about the cap hit cutting his fat aaasss…there will be no cap in another year…russell sucks and we all hate him as a fanbase.

  220. lefty12 Says:

    if Russell was all some of you think he is he wouldn’t need his WRs to get so much separation.he could fit the ball into tight spots.oh,that’s right,he has a difficult enough time trying to fit the ball in when a WR is wide open,that is if he sees him.

  221. Norco_Bob Says:

    even though he wont be playing tomorrow, I wil lstill get a huge chant of ,..russell sucks goin,..it will be great,…we all hate russell….we are united on that.

  222. Norco_Bob Says:

    the receivers look bad because russell makes them look bad,..the receivers hate him as much as we do.

  223. Norco_Bob Says:

    joe calzaghe britalized roy jones jr,..jones might lose an eyeball,..it was gross.

  224. lefty12 Says:

    don’t hate-he just isn’t ready.

  225. Norco_Bob Says:

    word

  226. Big AL's GOON Says:

    No-one is united against J-Russ, stop the lies.

  227. Norco_Bob Says:

    I choose to hate…lefty you can conitnue to be mr nice guy,..I wont be,..Im into hate and will let it all hang out tomorrow,..if the cops boot me out I will thank them. russell cant read a defense or book.

  228. Big AL's GOON Says:

    J-Russ is not ready yet. Let the man gain some experience.

  229. Seattle Raider Says:

    Culpepper Jr. without a Moss to make him look good? Maybe, But I can’t help remembering the play last year against SD, where he rolled left, had some time and hit Porter for a 40 yard TD. It showed promise, and I can’t help but think given time he could be great.
    I hope time on the sideline will give him a new perspective (as watching someone doing your job should) and may help in the long run.

  230. OAKLAND FAN Says:

    AL DAVIS HAS MADE THE OAKLAND RAIDERS THE WORST ORGANIZATION IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS !!!!!!!!!!!!

  231. Al Davis INC Says:

    sure wish steveo played for the raiders…that little wr has more heart than jambusto and yavonne combined

  232. Norco_Bob Says:

    Goon,..we are united,..you are on the outs bro,..we all hate russell.

  233. Al Davis INC Says:

    als goon….hes ready finally to take his place starting tommorrow…on the bench where he belongs

  234. Al Davis INC Says:

    hey norco…so I think they carry his lazy azz too final cut downs preseason next year…how bout urself

  235. Al Davis INC Says:

    andrew gonna get a new contract soon now, he gonna show some non believers what a nfl qb looks like

  236. Norco_Bob Says:

    oakland fan,…its not davis`s fault,…its russells,…we all hate him…nobody at the game tomorrow likes him,…we all want him off the roster…goodbye russell you mother f*cker.

  237. Norco_Bob Says:

    Al,..nope,..hes gone after season officially ends,…it unofficially ended the day russell was named starter.

  238. Big AL's GOON Says:

    Narco Bob,

    Who is we? There is no movement against J-Russ. If there was they don’t go to home games. Most realize that J-Russ is a young inexperienced QB that is going to need some time to develop. Most fans wanted us to draft a QB versus picking up a vet to man the position. Well, this is what happens when you rebuild with an inexperienced QB.

  239. Norco_Bob Says:

    God dammit I am saddened E.T. isnt on HBO tonight,..mother f*cker I love that little bastard from outer space.

  240. Big AL's GOON Says:

    AL Davis INC,

    J-Russ won’t be on the bench for very long. There’s nothing wrong with a young QB taking a seat and giving the more experienced but still very young back-up some playing time. Maybe the A&W guy can spark the offense.

  241. Seattle Raider Says:

    PRE-DRAFT SUMMERY

    Brady Quinn – More NFL Ready, Less Arm Strength

    JaMarcus Russell – Physical Specimen, Green, Raw

    We were warned….

  242. Norco_Bob Says:

    Look Goon,..we all wanted quinn,..and we saw the other night what we didnt get,..and we already know what we got stuck with,…Al saw russell could throw a ball far on his knee,…I guess thats why he was given 61 million dollars,…its too bad russell never told anyone he wasnt a quarterback.

  243. Bench JaMarcus Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    November 8th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
    if Russell was all some of you think he is he wouldn’t need his WRs to get so much separation.he could fit the ball into tight spots.oh,that’s right,he has a difficult enough time trying to fit the ball in when a WR is wide open,that is if he sees him.

    —————————————————————————————————————
    EXACTLY well said … stop blaming the WRs … if their QB can’t throw the ball to the spot how in the fuk can they catch it.

  244. Ajoakraider Says:

    Norco-bob your not a raider fan your a racist i can read the way u blog. l i said i hope the raider nation jump yo ass tomorrow

  245. Norco_Bob Says:

    on that dreadful day, draft day 2007,..I had quinn on my card,…but noooo,..oakland picked the big dummy,..making sure we would suck for several more years,…oh and this year was great too,..number 4 pick got us a guy who cant take nfl hits,…wont play nicked,..is soft,…etc.

  246. Norco_Bob Says:

    AJ you are the racist,..you are the one bringing up race,..I never did,..you did. busted!!!!

  247. Norco_Bob Says:

    AJ take you and your racism outta here,..this is not the place for that…leave please.

  248. Ajoakraider Says:

    we dont need any racist people in hear only positve people its okay to critisize but hate come on man

  249. Ajoakraider Says:

    shut up im a true raider fan what r u?

  250. Norco_Bob Says:

    I agree AJ,..you racist pig,..leave now.

  251. No More Fargas Says:

    I dont want to hate on Jamarcus but watching him play even if he play to his full potential i see him as a poor mans culpepper without the speed. I know he has only stared a handful of games but what improvements has anyone seen. Of course its hard for anyone to look good with this o-line

  252. Ajoakraider Says:

    make me leave punk

  253. Norco_Bob Says:

    AJ leave or Im getting the mods on you,..you are the typical honky racist scumbag we dont need in here…racist bastard,..LEAVE AJ!!!

  254. Ajoakraider Says:

    if u hate russell and the raiders so much why do you blog hear

  255. Norco_Bob Says:

    hear or here?…lol,..man you are as dumb as russell!!!!lol…AJ you are a loser.

  256. Ajoakraider Says:

    but we need u right punk Naro bastard

  257. Ajoakraider Says:

    Ill be at the game tomorrow i’ll meet u in the parking lot
    punk ass

  258. Bench JaMarcus Says:

    I’m confused … how come when a rookie white QB does bad he is benched quickly but when a rookie black QB does bad … the answer is get him a chance he’s still learning, bad OL, poor playing calling … excuses, excuses.
    Go Walter Go … who needs JaMarcus Leaf.

  259. Ajoakraider Says:

    I’m from east oakland so i’ll be close bye so i can shut u up. thats what we do where i’m from since u like to talk and all

  260. Norco_Bob Says:

    goin after russell with a vengeance!!!!!

  261. Ajoakraider Says:

    anyway we’ll shock the world tommorrow no one expects us to win. hopefully r running game is good to go

  262. Norco_Bob Says:

    Aw,..is poor little AJ all mad now?….lol,…oh please,…man I messed with the wrong tough guy in a blog,..ooooh nooooo….lmao…thansk for laugh AJ….loser,..you live in east oakland?…that confirms you are a loser.

  263. Seattle Raider Says:

    #21 on Steve Smith aaaaaaaaaaaal day long

  264. Norco_Bob Says:

    Im outta here,..AJ, goodnight you loser scumbag from the ghetto.

  265. Ajoakraider Says:

    actually i’ve been in the military for the last 14 yrs
    and military people r definitly not losers we protect your
    freedom. so u can talk the mess u do. Retard

  266. Seattle Raider Says:

    (like Kiffin ) “I’m out”

  267. Gay Steve Says:

    Good evening fans!!!

  268. Gay Steve Says:

    RAIDERS WILL WIN TOMORROW.

  269. Blackholepriest Says:

    So after 8 starts Russell’s a bust and will never make it as a starter?? huh??

    So when he starts making plays and winning games, what will you say? I remember reading the same stuff about Justin Fargas, JLH, Gallery and so on. Tyler Brayton was the worst 1st rnd pick in history. Jerry Porter couldn’t start on any other team in the NFL. Jake Grove is garbage.

    Talk is cheap especially when that’s all you can do.

    Russell is a very young QB trying to catch up to the speed in the NFL, simple as that, no more no less. AS soon as DMC is healthy and the timing between QB and WR’s improve he will be just fine Also the running game must get back n track first and foremost. The best friend of a young QB is a running game. Lately he hasn’t had one.

    You guy’s are a bunch of fickle fans who jump ship at the first sight of trouble. If you ddn’t know Russel would struggle that’s your fault. Because it was inevitable. Just as his development is and in time you’ll see it.

    It’s obvious that lost of you couldn’t wait until this happened so you could jump all over him, well jump now because you only have a short while. And then you’ll start eating all your words.

    I challenge all of you Russell haters to repost your comments when he’s starts playing well so the rest of us can see who YOU REALLY are.

  270. gilbert Says:

    norco bib,I think Most of us will give JRuss time,because it takes time!If Walter plays ,ill be pulling for him as well

  271. BDUB Says:

    These blogs are pretty intense, all of this finger pointing, name calling, excuse making gibberish. Its seems that all of these blogger are either politicans or actually work in Alameda at the Raider complex..hmm…hahaha…

    I thought it over and I came to the conclusion that Jim Harbough will be our next coach and AD will give him the power he did Kiff. when he hired him. You know the actuall ability to have an influence in personal decisions. And our raiders will start anew again. The biginning of November begins the holidays, snow, the midseason of America’s sport (nfl) and for me (or us) a mandatory longing for Feb. the end of this NFL season and the dawn of a new one… One full of new coaches, players, a new regime full of change and opportunity. (wow– I am sounding like a politician now).

    To this 08′ season. To the 3 games I sat in section 312, to the jano. kick in ot, to the 300+ dollors I spent on gear, to the chicken and beer, to the dominoe games, tailgaiting and to hopes and dreams of this season.

    To this season goes the bullet… Good bye 08′ Hello Feberuary!

  272. dorco bob's buffoon squad Says:

    Dude this blog sucks now, what the hell happened?

  273. BDUB Says:

    Hey, I like my blog- but I should have joined earlier–I would have liked to stir the pot abit

  274. Just sell Baby........ Says:

    Al Bundy Davis
    The laughing stock of the NFL !!!

    Just sell baby……………….and so it is !!

  275. Andrews Mom Says:

    Good morning to everyone here at Rag On the Raiders chat room!!!!!!! This place is more like a chat room then a blog.

    I am so excited this morning. My boy might actually start. Someone was afraid Peppers would ruin JR’s life. So they will let a man they dont care about take the punishment.

    Well, I have news for those clowns. AW will have a great game. If Andy started every game this year we would be 4-4 and in the playoff hunt.

  276. Andrews Mom Says:

    I am not ready to claim JR a bust yet, but I keep thinking of the last QB who could throw 60 yards from his knees.

    Anyone remember who I am talking about?

  277. ??? Says:

    Um Ok Dumb question where does it say walter is officialy starting?

    Dont get me wrong I like the guy but the teams problems on offence go way beyond Russell.

    I think his growth may ave been slowed last yeae because of his hold out.

    But not sure he would be any better now if he was on time to camp his rookie year.

    The O line has regressed this year in particular once TC took over has the head puppet and the long and short of it is when he does have enough time to make a good decision on who to throw it too the WR 9 tmes out of 10 drops the flippen ball.

    Factor all that in Walter aint going to do any better with this offensive unit.

    Same goes for Brady Quinn and Matt Ryan.

    Put Russell behind a good solid O Line with at least decent recievers and a healthy Darin Mcfadden then if he Russell fails under thoes conditions then call him a bust.

    One thing he does need to work on though is his touch in the red zone but thenagain maybe if they actully got there more often he would get better at that.

    As for next years Hc JH? If your smart stay at Stanford. Our Franchise player? Well unless the team shows major improovement next year. Assuming he is tagged again. Get the hell out if your smart lol.

  278. ??? Says:

    Interesting they finally waived Wakefield and activted
    Greyson Gunheim Well welcome to hell and good luck rookie you are going to need it. :)

  279. bank-bank Says:

    This blog doesn’t suck.our Raiders suck and it’s Al Davis fault.It’s still Als fault.If our Raiders were a competitive legit playoff team then this blog would have alot more positive bloggers.We are Raider fans we are passionate about our Raiders.I totally understand,Frustration is being released every day on this and other Raider blogs because we love our Raiders.This will continue to happen until Al Davis comes out of his coma and does the right for a change!!!

  280. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 120 Heyward-Bay hands down.But I feel we need DT OT MLB 1st

  281. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we can “somehow pressure Dehlomme” oh never -mind .But if the cutting of Hall makes sands play the DT position like its supposed 2 be played,well who knows,I’m always hopefull 4 a win

  282. Andrews Mom Says:

    This blog does not suck?

    lol

  283. 4evaRaider Says:

    well if this blog sucks,I guess we’re all suckers =)

  284. ??? Says:

    Ok Fine I stand corrected I just saw the thing On NFLN saying Russell wont play.

    But that dont change my point any in post 278.

    Walter aint going to do any better then Russell because he still has to play with the same crappy offensive line and recievers.

    The only thing he might do a little better at this point assuming he aint having to drag his ass up off the grass on every play is show a little more touch in the red zone assuming they even get into it.

    Russell makes the same mistakes most first year starters make they are just magnified because the te supporting cast around him is either hurt or not living up to its potential or both.

    The worst thing Davis could have done was change coaches after the season started. He should have made the change back in march during the up coming off season or not at all.

    But not during the season that almost always turns out to be all bad.

    Look at the history leauge wide of teams that make coaching changes after the season starts. It sucks.

    One of the few exceptions was Art Shell in 1989 7W 5L

    Then they get stomped by the bills a year later in the AFC Championship.

    But it was a differnt game back then the Deffence they played worked back then.

    as for the Offence well they had Bo Jackson and a still productive Marcus Allen. The O Line could also keep the QB Up right and The WR’s were competent even if they were not great. Not to mention because the O line was not real bad they could throw the ball to the tight end which has always been part of a decent Raider offence rather they were in Oakland or LA the only exception was maybe under Gruden.

    But ok I saw it on TV looks like Walter will start but dont expect much Not with the tools he has to work with.

    Also keep in mind there was one game last year when Mclown was supposedly out and then game time rolled around he started. Also up until that fiasco last week Russell has looked much better at home for the most part. The team has has a whole except against Dever maybe even in that game Russell was ok considering he had nothing to work with. Ok now iam done. :)

  285. Andrews Mom Says:

    Its not the info, its the unregged trolling that makes this place suck.
    Especially because anyone can “post” as anyone else.

    But I am not in favor of changing it now, Its too late.

  286. Andrews Mom Says:

    ????

    nice blog, I just think Andrew is much better then you give him credit for.
    We will move the ball today and it will make all the difference in the world.

    Go Andrew!!

  287. Andrews Mom Says:

    AW starting might just be a smokescreen to “fool” the Panthers, but I doubt they will prepare any different for Andrew then they would for JR.

  288. 4evaRaider Says:

    you must be proud Andrews Mom =)

  289. bank-bank Says:

    Hey Great Raider Fans of America,Im frustrated also but honestly some quarterbacks need more time than others.Eight professional football games is not enough time to measure a quaterbacks play.Sorry,it just isn’t.Lets be fair and drop the frustration for a second.J.Russells career so far has had to deal with constant chaos A stubborn old owner,constant coaching changes,Al Davis,bad signings,Al Davis,a non-caring stubborn owner who doesn’t care about his team fans,constant backstabbing with coaches and players,a disfunctional atmosphere,and I can go on and on what the ROOKIE Raider quarterback has gone through so far in his EIGHT game professional football with our Raiders.No one should be so lucky.It’s not J.Russes fault that he plays for a playoff bound Raider football team.Believe that and you’ll believe anything.Al Davis is the Main Problem because he created this MESS in which no ROOKIE QUARETRBACK can succeed.How would YOU like to quarterback for this Raider football team coming out of college.You think you can do better under the current circumstances that J.Russ is under now.No Way its almost impossible for any quarterback to succeed under these current Raider circumstances.IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!

  290. 4evaRaider Says:

    you can take that 2 the bank

  291. Andrews Mom Says:

    lol 4eva

  292. Andrews Mom Says:

    How about them Red Raiders!!!

    I thought OK would whup em after TT’s big game with Texas and because OK has a great running game that was suppose to keep TT off the field.

  293. 4evaRaider Says:

    alright AM !!! those Red-Raiders are 4 real!!!

  294. Andrews Mom Says:

    How about them homos rioting?
    Good thing they are picking a fight with whitey and his church. I would love to see the homos march on mexicans and blacks.
    They would get close and throw their birkenstocks and run like hell.

    And the media said it would be blacks.
    Those preconcived notions will get ya everytime.

  295. Andrews Mom Says:

    I would love to see them win out and play Florida in the bigbowl.

  296. 4evaRaider Says:

    Texas-Tech plays Oklahoma next in Norman OK,think they can handle it AM!!!!

  297. Andrews Mom Says:

    Actually theres no way I can see them beating Texas, OKS and OK in three straight games but after what they did yesterday I would say they kick OK’s arse.

    Probaly go down in history as one of the greatest teams in history if they manage to win out.

    I bet Al is licking his chops thinking about getting Crabtree and his coach!

  298. Andrews Mom Says:

    Norman is a very hard place to play at especially when its mind numbing cold as it often is this time of year

  299. Andrews Mom Says:

    Has any team in history beaten three straight top 10 teams?
    Texas was #1
    OKS was #9
    OK will be #5

  300. 4evaRaider Says:

    I dont know sorry.Dakota might know,EXLA should know =)

  301. 4evaRaider Says:

    those guys know all =) really

  302. Josh Mosley Says:

    Ok People

    Im sitting here wondering about the summer when i thought of the worst possible scenarios for the raiders

    #1 lose to denver opening night
    #2 a new coach
    #3 al snaps
    #4 Watching tyler brayton kick cornell greens ass for 4 sacks this fine day.

    All the worst things are happening to our fine football team. It too bad to see,Talent dont win ball games if its not used properly. Rob ryan needs to be canned quickly he’s wasteing our defensive talent because he was a linebackers coach, not a defensive coordinator for the patriots, he’s still learning on the job. 5 years, and our defense has been trampled by the like or joe flacco, hell even brooks bollinger beat this defense one year, im disgusted with the oakland raiders, been a fan for 20 years. never have i been this bitter about a losing campaign, i wonder if al sees what the deal is. or does he care. he needs a GM. like say mike holmgrem or bill cowher. they might be able to save our raiders. al could show up at noon all day if those two were in charge.

  303. Andrews Mom Says:

    I see it a little different. Rooting for the Raiders all these years have brought many special memories.

    Al is the big reason the Raiders became they team that has a nation. Things have gone worse then bad the past years and I know it tears Al up inside. He keeps thinking he will turn it around but he is a not a fool.

    He panicked and hired Kiff after Arts “worse year ever” when sticking with Art would have us playing 500 ball this year at the minimum and we would have a O line that could roll over almost anyone.

    Art is going back to the “B&B” and we will be much better off because of it. It will be what makes JR a star in the NFL. IT may be a tough few years but Al will right this ship.

  304. jake Says:

    Shut down corners need a pass rush. No corner in any system can cover without a pass rush and the q/b looks around to select his receiver of choice. Also, Cable should be putting Aso on the other teams best receiver. O/line and D/line are the worst in the NFL and it was a position the Raiders chose not to improve and now they are living with it. It hurts every part of offense and defense, but they knew what they had and decided to sign Harris, wasn’t that just a great move. We saw Harris suck in SF and they still brought him in. However, it not only Harris, its Gallery, Grove Carlisle and Green but we knew it last year, and please fish wrappers don’t say Gallery has improved as a guard nothing has changed with his game. He still is a major suck job along with the rest of them but its to late to change any of it. Watch Grove being pushed into the back field today, it makes you sick to even watch. The Raiders play soft. They do not have aggressive players. Not one linebacker will smack you.

  305. Maryland Raiderfan Says:

    JR a bust already? Our running game that could of given him time is none existent d/t Dmac injury. The O line has regressed and Harris does suck! Miller is doubled when he is not in to block and we lost our good blocking fB esp Oneal! No decent WR with whom he has chemistry to throw to and the other one got on IR Carter. Too many reasons why JR is struggling in his yes rookie year! I am one willing to give him a chance b/c Kiff was getting somewhere with him slowly yes but somewhere. We need a real HC would can develop talent for i feel cables strength is just with the o line. This mess is all on AL as always. RYAN is a JOKE!!! How much more evidence does anyone need!! Simplify the defense was so complicated about it!! Other teams are doing the same crap all year with no response– Quick snaps, screens plays etc. Ryan has no clue how to make adjustments cause he has not made them and really does not have the players either d/c the d line sucks. But he is a AL Kiss A and tells him that his players are great!! and will get it!!LOL!
    The Hall purge is the only sign al may have had a glimer of lucidity!!

  306. 4evaRaider Says:

    other teams used 2 fear us now they cant wait 2 play us cause were down and we always used 2 spank their ass

  307. Andrews Mom Says:

    I think Cowher may be a little overrated (this will start fireworks)
    Two SB’s in 15 years as coach of one of the best managed and most consistent teams (by a longshot)in the NFL.
    Everything the pundits say we are not.
    One VL in 15 and that was questionable.
    12-9 in playoffs
    Take away the two SB years and Bill is 6-8 in playoff games.

  308. Andrews Mom Says:

    Holmgren has a much better record.
    I can see him being Parcells for a team and doing a fantastic job.

  309. 4evaRaider Says:

    and we all know Holmgren LOVES a challenge.that would be great

  310. Andrews Mom Says:

    Thats right 4eva

    And he has spent his years in the NFC.
    I bet he would love to return the Raiders to glory.
    And here is something interesting.

    He played high school ball at SF.
    He started his coaching career at the same high school
    And he started his college coaching at SF State.

    Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmmm.
    Doesnt Mike like the B&B and big linemen?
    Maybe someone does have Als ear

    Let us pray!!!

  311. Andrews Mom Says:

    Return to Raiders was a mistake

    I should have said he started his NFL coaching career at SF under Walsh

  312. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm =)

  313. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Good Morning Raider Nation;

    4evaRaider Says:
    November 9th, 2008 at 5:56 am
    I dont know sorry.Dakota might know,EXLA should know =)

    What should I know?

  314. 4evaRaider Says:

    But I bet he personally would love 2 see the Raiders return 2 their rightfull place.If he thought of Walsh as a father figure,then he would revere Big Al as Grandfather imo

  315. 4evaRaider Says:

    I’m also willing 2 bet Holmgren cant STAND what he is watching,having respect 4 Al

  316. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning EXLA:Andrews Mom was wondering if any team has beating 3 #1s in collage,like Texas Tech might do in 1 year,and its true you or Dakota know most things =)

  317. Andrews Mom Says:

    I was wondering if any team has beat three top ten teams in a row like Texas Tech has a chance to do.

    #1 Texas
    #9 OKS
    #5 OK

  318. 4evaRaider Says:

    sorry I miss-quoted you AM =(

  319. 4evaRaider Says:

    yeah thats what I meant lol

  320. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Who would you start??

    Moss, Randy WR NE ->BUF
    Washington, Nate WR PIT ->IND
    Avery, Donnie WR STL ->@NYJ

    my last two WR spots, who would you start, passD for the teams is, 12th, 16th and 19th..

    I am considering to bench Moss, BUF has the best passD and he was injured during the week.. Jets suck, and Indi’s D is weird right now.. its quite a predicament, pweeze help =)

  321. Senile Kings' Aricept Says:

    …BHP#270,….While I usually admire your voice of reason, I disagree on one point. Given the fact that our OT’s are basically garbage at pass protection, even when given time, Russell routinely and completely misses wide open targets where there is obviously enough margin for error for even many of US to have completed the pass. I simply, as others do , fail to believe that this is purely a issue of timing between Russell and the receivers…We’ve all heard the idioms.You can’t teach speed…arm strength…etc..
    However, if Russell is a belated Sandy Koufax, how do you address his accuracy issue ?…
    …..On a different topic, I’m dissapointed with Nnamdi’s recent reaction to DeAngelo Hall’s status. Nnamdi’s ” If the peasants don’t have enough bread to eat, let them eat cake” attitude is out of touch with reality. I wish he had some perspective. Once again…Presto !…another unhappy millionaire…Yo…Nnamdi, Your play has been stellar, you also should be commended for your community involement, but you should ask yourself,…If you didn’t have the physical skills that allow you to earn a million a month, just how much would you be earning at some other vocation ?…Supreme Court Justice?…Computational Bio-Physicist ? How about Mgr. of an establishment whose employees routinely ask of their customers, “Do you want fries with that ?”…

  322. Andrews Mom Says:

    I believe the Steelers dropped Nate Washington

  323. Andrews Mom Says:

    Maybe I am thinking of Davenport

  324. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Nate is still playing =)

  325. Raider0525 Says:

    I hate to say this but I think Russekk is a bust . I agree even when not presured to over throws the receivers. Look at Quinn and Ryan, wish we had either one of them.

  326. Raider0525 Says:

    sorry cant spell this morning :)

  327. Andrews Mom Says:

    Quinn will be shut down, a lot.

    JR needs a pocket and some time. Then we may see him start picking apart D’s.

  328. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    From Scott Osler: “why didn’t the Raiders notice before signing Hall, that he can’t play one-on-one? I hear the Raiders’ coaches wanted to watch film of Hall, but the overhead projector was being used.”

    LOL

  329. Lynn from Snot Says:

    9 games and Russell’s a bust? Marino couldn’t do much better with this cast of o-linemen and recievers.

  330. Raider0525 Says:

    I hope you are right because we cant have bust. I like Russell and I hope he works out. But come on all these injuries are killing us, they need to step up and play. I think when things go bad people don’t want to play

  331. Raider0525 Says:

    Look at the way he throws. He has too much on his throws. He needs to develope a touch which he doesn’t have yet. Plus he cant hold on to the ball. I think hes dropped a ball in every game, or just about every game. I’m not hoping he’s a bust. I hope he works out. So far he doesn’t look good at all.

  332. 4evaRaider Says:

    you would think with all the money they would be ashamed and play their heart out win or loose,2 try 2 keep their self-dignity imo

  333. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Then they should get a real job if things go bad .

  334. Lynn from Snot Says:

    amen 4eva

  335. Raider0525 Says:

    yes you would think that but NFL players heads are so big and they act like big babies. Their money they make is so out of hand and I thinks thats a lot of the problem

  336. Lynn from Snot Says:

    I hope they simplify the defense it gets no easier than tackling the guy with the football.

  337. Andrews Mom Says:

    #0525

    You may be right. Time will tell.

    Lots of teams would have loved to draft him as #1 pick. Even teams with fantastic scouts and GM’s and everything we dont have picked him to be great. His pros outweigh the cons.

    I have faith that he will prevail in the end and be our QB for the next ten years.

  338. Blackholepriest Says:

    Russell’s accuracy issues are linked to timing and not enough reps under game speed. In practice he’s making those plays in game situations he’s not. That’s seeing things that aren’t there and guessing instead of reacting. There are no short cuts to playing effectively at that position it requires so much and he’s not accurate to be sure. But reps will help a ton in that situation.

    Something Lefty12 brought out that you’ll see today Walter has adjusted to this league and sees the field with lore clarity than Russell and will be able to ANTICIPATE recievers breaking open and make throws ON TIME. Russell is guessing and seeeing things that aren’t there. The only way to get better is to play.

    But right now I’m going to agree with Lefty12, I think this team and organization desparately needs better leadership and that’s something Russell simply cannot provide at this point. QB play is most important thing a team needs when it’s trying to turn around it’s fortunes you see it in Arizona. You’ll see it in SF tomorrow. Walter IMO what we need right now Lefty12 is right ( believe me that’s tough to admit).

    When I read Gibril Wilson comments about the talent on this team. Right away it became obvious that the team needs Walter right now just to spark the team, and get our confidence up, get us out of this funk. Russell will benefit also by seeing when and where he should go with the ball. Not to mention that I’ve always thought very highly of Walters talent, he is very accurate and is probably exactly what we need right now to get this team’s confidence up.

    The biggest mistake Kiffin made was to never give Walter a chance. It could’ve made all the difference in the world.

  339. Andrews Mom Says:

    Some players lose the desire to play hard and win, let alone play 100% 24/7. They have won and been “better then” those around them for all their life and all of a sudden they find out it is not all fun and now they have to work hard.

    I remember when I lost that passion, especially now looking back on it. I was not very good but I played as hard as I could 24/7 and had no concept of anyone not giving it their all.

  340. Andrews Mom Says:

    Clayton just said he thinks JR will start.

  341. Raider0525 Says:

    so are you saying you don’t think Russell is really hurt that bad? That they decided to go with Walter instead?

  342. Mistabrown Says:

    BHP, what do you know about Football ? You’re a Ding A Ling. Talking out both sides of your mouth and your neck. You’re a fraud!

    Six weeks ago you would have never supported Walter and here you are today saying its a good idea. You would have bashed Kiffin till the cows came home if he started AW.

    Wheres your left tit OakGlenn?

  343. Voldemort Says:

    OH NO!!!!!!!!!! BSPN just reported that Draftbustus’s toe is hurt and will probably play through it. First of all, I thought it was his knee, and second, SIT THE STUPID OAF ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!HE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want to see an efficiant compatent quarterback, is that too much to ask for? Plaease start Walter, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEAE!!!!!

  344. Raider0525 Says:

    Russell is his knee, Mcfadden is his toe

  345. Andrews Mom Says:

    BHP

    From the practice reports I heard here, JR has rarely if ever been accurate including 7 on 7 drills.

    Good QB’s complete ALL their passes on those drills more often then not.

    But I sure agree about lame kitten screwing my boy and this team by not playing the best QB last year.

    I will always have a “strong dislike” for him and any team he goes to. He should change his last name to weasel..

  346. Blackholepriest Says:

    Russell is not a bust, you people are a bunch of retards. He’s just learning the ropes. You guy’s ar worse than a bunch of twisted children players must adjust to the speed of this game and he will. But the team around him is not playing well and neither is he which makes it look worse.

    Damn grow up! how long have you been watching NFL football?

    But right now we need wins desparately or this thing could crater way out of control and force changes that don’t need to be made.

  347. Mistabrown Says:

    BHP, do you wanna talk defense and your boy Rob Ryan ?

  348. Raider0525 Says:

    no need to get nasty. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Time will tell whether he’s a bust or not. I hope not but he’s not looking to good right now. Look at Quinn the way he came out. Was he perfect…not at all, did he make rookie mistakes…yes but he showed that he could make the throws and HOLD ON TO THE BALL.

  349. Andrews Mom Says:

    By the way I would start Moss.
    Cassell is improving and Moss is overdue.

  350. typicalraiders Says:

    anyone know where to watch the blacked out raider game in sac

  351. Andrews Mom Says:

    More news is coming out about Hall last week

    He had a BBQ for Atlanta players and nobody showed.
    Then he went to the hotel and they didnt want anything to do with him.
    Then he tried to fight one of them in the tunnel.
    And he argued with coaches on the sidelines.

  352. 4evaRaider Says:

    ding-a-ling I love it =)

  353. Blackholepriest Says:

    What? what? who has seen practice to be able to make those comments. Jerry hasn’t seen practice since the preseason. And Russell is practicing well it’s when Sunday rolls around and he’s under pressure.

    Again I fully expected this from him, but I did’t know what the rest of the team would be like.I thought that we had a chance to be much better than we are.

    Russell is not the problem with this team, THE TEAM is not playing well which exascerbates his struggles. Make no mistake I’m not blaming Russell for our record or competence of the team. It’s just that right now we as a team need better play at QB than he’s prepared to give. And we have Walter who just might be exactly what the doctor ordered.

  354. Andrews Mom Says:

    Our coaches, not theres.

  355. typicalraiders Says:

    is andrew walters starting? if he is that makes the game a whole less interesting

  356. Andrews Mom Says:

    BHP

    You said

    “Russell’s accuracy issues are linked to timing and not enough reps under game speed. In practice he’s making those plays in game situations he’s not. ”

    I was just wondering how you knew accuracy was not an issue at practice?

  357. Voldemort Says:

    I hope Draftbustus breaks both of his legs today if he plays. That’s the only way this idiotic team will give themselves a chance to win. Do they think he will be better hurt or something? I supose it couldn’t hurt, he is theorst QB I’ve ever seen when healthy, so maybe with a hurt knee (or toe according to espn) he will be better? YEAH RIGHT! SIT THE OAF AND START WALTER IF YOU WANT TO WIN CABLE! Walter may not win today, because the Panthers are a great teamand we are a pathetic team, but I can assure you that Walter will not go out there and go 7 for 35 or 6 for 19 or whatever else pathetic numbers Draftbustus has posted. It is as se to impossible as anything for Walter to do as bad as that idiot. How’s this for leadership qualities…0 for 8 for -2 yards and 0 first downs? That was Draftbustus’s first half aainst the sorry a$$ dirtybird Defense. PLEASE SIT THIS RETARDED OAFY FOOLISH BUM!!!!

  358. Andrews Mom Says:

    TYpical

    Its a game time decision.

  359. Blackholepriest Says:

    We’ll talk later. I’ve got something much more important to do. But suffice to say Sistabrown everyone is having problems on this team. Not just the defense.

  360. typicalraiders Says:

    i know for sure that andrew walters on his best day isn’t jamarcus russell

  361. Blackholepriest Says:

    Players and coaches.

  362. Andrews Mom Says:

    If he starts, AW will move the ball and punch it in.

  363. 4evaRaider Says:

    andrew walter NO S

  364. Voldemort Says:

    Blackholepreist is a dillusional fool and Draftbustus Russell has thouroughly earned his nickname. If you support Draftbustus at this point, you should be institutionalized, or you’re a Donkey fan. I bet the Donkeys love Draftbustus Russell!

  365. Raider0525 Says:

    Blackholepriest, wow calm down, people are just talking in here. no offense to you but he just doesn’t look like he has it. Maybe and hopefully he will get it. Who can really blame him or anyone else on the team with all these distractions. Davis has once again fucced this team

  366. Mistabrown Says:

    BHP I see you’ve shelved “Ding a Ling” in favor of “retards” you’re a blogging legend in your own mind.

    Ok, you dont want to talk defense I can understand that. Rob Ryan – ditto.

    How does it feel to be the one idiot that trys to put lipstick on a pig every sunday ?

  367. Senile Kings' Aricept Says:

    BHP,#339,…lol…I’m sure you remember Marc Wilson. Ugly interceptions aside, he seemed oblivous to backside pressure….With our OT’s….Walker is likely to get killed today…

  368. typicalraiders Says:

    the reason my is typical raiders is because

    rich gannon- fans “we want tui”
    rich gannon – fans kerry collins
    kerry collins fans tui
    aaroon brooks -”fans andrew walters ”
    then when andrew walters proved who he was for a whole season
    josh McCown fans cullpepper
    cullpepper fans mccown or jamarcus
    jamarcus idiots andrew walters

  369. Andrews Mom Says:

    Has anyone else heard something about JR being accurate in practice?

    I dont think I have heard that before

  370. Mistabrown Says:

    Andrew Walters?

  371. Mistabrown Says:

    The only thing I heard positive about Russell in practice is he shows up and can throw the ball 60 yards from his knees.

    Whoopty freakin doo

  372. Andrews Mom Says:

    Remember the last first round QB who was famous for that?

  373. Voldemort Says:

    Raider0525
    I completely agree with you that this whole mess is, once again, Al Davis’s fault. But the the drafting of the bust over Quinn or Calvin Johnson and Trent Edwards also must be included in the long list of things the power hungy senile old fool has F’d up. I believe his biggest mistake of all was firing Lane Kiffin, that guy made us competitors, now we’re right back to the pre-Kiffin ways, LOSERS, and it is 90% Draftbustus’s fault.

  374. Andrews Mom Says:

    Kyle “warm bench” Boller

  375. Raider0525 Says:

    Voldemort, I agree with you 100%. Kiffin could of and will be a great coach.

  376. Mistabrown Says:

    Half way into the season Cable is going to split playing time at left tackle as if this is pre season and not 1 media person is blowing this guy up.

    Commitment to Excellence!

  377. Mistabrown Says:

    New thread

  378. Mistabrown Says:

    Link is busted just like our team.

    Commitment to Excellence!

  379. Andrews Mom Says:

    You made me look

  380. Lynn from Snot Says:

    We have turn stiles at the tackles what else can be done?

  381. Mistabrown Says:

    You’re 100% a jacka$s for this comment.

    # Voldemort Says:
    November 9th, 2008 at 8:36 am

    Maybe on our next road game the plane will crash and kill our whole team and all the coaches, and most importantly, Al Davis. That would be awesome. Something that drastic is our only hope of success in the near future.

  382. Andrews Mom Says:

    I hope Culpepper lights it up and beats the Jags

  383. Mistabrown Says:

    You can give ONE guy ALL the reps in practice and go with it.

    # Lynn from Snot Says:
    November 9th, 2008 at 8:36 am

    We have turn stiles at the tackles what else can be done?

  384. Maryland Raiderfan Says:

    Until we get a HC that is allowed to be a HC ala Jim Zorn, Sean payton, mike smith, etc and a gm like parcells, dimtroff and others we will be relegated to bantering about what the fix is to no avail. The fix is AL Davis stepping aside and only worrying about signing the checks!!!!!!!!

  385. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Culpepper will fumble at least twice today…… believe it

  386. Voldemort Says:

    Thanks for calling me a jackass Mistabrown. Everyone knows it’s true, I just said it.

  387. Seattle Raider Says:

    I hope we score more than 3 points

  388. Lynn from Snot Says:

    then play Henderson

  389. Mistabrown Says:

    #388 you’re welcome.

    Lynn, yes play Henderson or leave Harris in there but dont flip flop as if this is pre season football. You answered your own question.

  390. 4evaRaider Says:

    4 our offence 2 work properly we need a brusing FB when OO went down that really hurt us,then Carter,then Dmac.Thats 3 big time starters and we’re still reeling

  391. 4evaRaider Says:

    With OO in the backfield,Miller goes out

  392. 4evaRaider Says:

    4 passes that is

  393. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    i hate going into every fukkking sunday hoping we wont lose too bad. i BLOWS to think that way.

  394. Voldemort Says:

    4evaRaider
    do you play Madden online on X Box 360? I saw someone with that name on there last night…

  395. 4evaRaider Says:

    F-U-K-K

  396. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Joseph gives us a little more depth this week god knows we need it.

  397. Voldemort Says:

    what we need is a miracle

  398. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    anyony play PS3 online?

  399. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    anyone! im lame

  400. Seattle Raider Says:

    Don’t forget Griffith, he was possibly better than OO

  401. Lynn from Snot Says:

    The only teams that “they” use injuries as a reason a team is struggling are the colts or the jacksonvilles of this league. The teams “they” deemed contenders.

  402. 4evaRaider Says:

    what we need is time a coach no injuries an o-line a d-line,I guess youre right Voldemort

  403. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    lets hope on the 2 lines get some TLC. thats where it all begins

  404. Lynn from Snot Says:

    No what we need is a stiff drink right about now. The bar just opened.

  405. 4evaRaider Says:

    everybody has got 2 believe in something I believe I’ll have ANOTHER drink =)

  406. S&B - Nation Collective Says:

    Hopefully Andrew Walter can get us a spark. I’ve always liked Walter and thought the Raiders needed to stick with him despite struggling in the 2006 season. However, our GM, who is the worst owner in sports, gave up on a young QB with promise. Just like we are probably going to do with our other young QB. Just like we did with Tui…Sigh… That’s water under the bridge. Walter needs to get rid of the ball quickly and HOPE the running game shows up. Walter is fairly accurate and has a live arm.

    The Raiders have a shot, just a shot, if the offense can work on a short field AND the defense is somehow able to slow down the running game. Maybe we can get Delhomme to make a mistake.

    Doesn’t this look like 2006? We have a POS offensive line, Walter at QB and an offensive line coach masqerading as a head coach…

    Where’s the Commissioner?

  407. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I believe I will have another bong hit

  408. typicalraiders Says:

    any sports bar in sacramento show the raider game

  409. 4evaRaider Says:

    Ive been hittin the bong too its sunday feelin kinda sunday

  410. 4evaRaider Says:

    deja vu anyone???

  411. S&B - Nation Collective Says:

    The Raiders have the HIGHEST payroll in the league?!?!!

    They also have the only young QB struggling mightily

    10 coaches in 19 years

    The worst offensive tackle tandem in football history (Cable is supposed to be this genius????)

    Their best receiver is a 7th round pick from San Diego who has started 2 games this year.

    The pass defense is terrible despite having the best cornerback in the league

    The run defense is the third worst in football (30th) and yet the defensive coordinator job remains secure

    The overall defense ranks 29th…terrible, Rob Ryan????

    Their young QB (Russell), unless something changes, is heading down the road that Walter, Tui, Billy Jo Hobert, Todd Marinovich, Steve Beurlein, Marc Wilson…..franchise can’t develop QB’s. Why? See coaching change statistic above!

    And the GM/Owner can’t see the mistakes because of his arrogance!

    Where’s the Commissioner?

  412. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    We need Walter.

    Go Raiders!

  413. S&B - Nation Collective Says:

    The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:
    November 9th, 2008 at 9:44 am
    We need Walter.

    Go Raiders
    ===================================================
    To bad YOUR owner gave up on him after 2006. Calvin Johnson could have been a nice target. Unfortunately, Kiffin didn’t like him either. Hope Walter does well and the Raiders can find a way to win.

    6 years of this garbage!

    Where’s the Commissioner?

    Where’s the Commissioner?

  414. Mike Nolan Says:

    Is the game sold out?

  415. Skloomsh Says:

    What’s the Commissioner supposed to do about it? More to the point, on what grounds is he supposed to do anything? The only possible one would be the vague and open ended ‘for the good of the game’, but that’s a slippery slope that the NFL, I’m sure, has enough sense to avoid. Not only that, but they know damn well that the Raiders would sue and no judge in the world is going to rule against an owner who can show that he’s trying his hardest to win, whatever the results on the field might be.

  416. SECTION 226 Says:

    WHEN AL IS NO LONGER AROUND ( DEATH – DEVINE INTERVENTION- WHAT EVER) AND THE OAKLAND RAIDERS HAVE I LEGIT FRONT OFFICE, AND ARE STILL PUMPING OUT 2-14 / 4-12 RECORDS. WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THIS BLOG READ’S.

  417. 4evaRaider Says:

    I believe its tounge-in cheek Skloomsh =)

  418. Andrews Mom Says:

    DC just threw a 51 yard pass to Johnson

    TD a few plays later

  419. Andrews Mom Says:

    Why did DC leave the Raiders?

    Because kiff put him in the doghouse?

  420. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Left the Raiders because he was a tiny handed fumbling injury machine who wants to start instead of mentor and back up.

  421. The Ghost of Robert Comer Says:

    Kiffin was a fraud.

    Go Raiders!

  422. Andrews Mom Says:

    Goos answer!

  423. Andrews Mom Says:

    lol good answer

  424. Andrews Mom Says:

    He is a weasel too

  425. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Ufck Kiffin.

  426. gilbert Says:

    The Commissioner is at home,kicking back,enjoying the games!He will not single out the Raiders,or any other crappy team,it is what it is!Its up to the players and coaches,period

  427. Maryland Raiderfan Says:

    Jerry, what’s with the web site ? your latest post will not come up. Schefter reports more players want to jump ship? WTF If this is true then al is more senile than i thought. Also worrisome is if ASO will not sign a long term deal d/t to the BS in OAKLAND. Possibly our best chance to sign ASO left when KIFF was fired in the TV fiasco.

  428. Al Davis INC Says:

    just start walter damnit…no jabusto today please. Jammarcus knows if he leaves the lineup it may be for good, and will try to play if possible.
    Cant wait to see Walter back up and read the defense, something jambusto cant do at all

  429. Al Davis INC Says:

    Although a huge Asom fan, have a question for you fans…..if no one EVER tries to pass at the guy because the other side is ALWAYS open, how good is Aso? I believe hes probably the best, but my mind came across this earlier today, he never gets any attention mostly because of his reputation, if the other side was covered 50% of the time how would Aso look? Just hypothetical. Also why is ryan still the d cord? so obvious he sucks Al cant be this stupid.
    Whats Als plan and who has his ear all of a sudden, this “local guy” has made a impact and isnt officially even a part of the team. Someone made the suggestion its Holmgren, man that might be true….him and al could be making moves but cant let it out because hes under contract. If its Holmgren Wowowowow that would be a legit football guy for sure. The thing about Holmgren is the way he does business…if you dont play your gone, and contract holdouts hahaha dont waste ur time

  430. 4evaRaider Says:

    post 395 Voldemort no I dont play I wonder if that thief stole my moniker here tho

  431. Andrews Mom Says:

    But if we trade Nnamdi we will get 31-0 instead of 24-0

  432. 4evaRaider Says:

    how do I,or even can I licence or keep my moniker all 2 Myself???

  433. Native Says:

    #21 is worthless at run support hes like the MATADOR in Dallas he should own the defense by now instead of sounding like a little kid!!!
    HELL it took the guy 3 years to get an interception???

  434. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Good day Nation.

    eff you mod.

  435. 4evaRaider Says:

    oh now I see @@

  436. 909raiderlifer Says:

    I will be heading over to the local dive, to watch the game. Although I have this feeling of rather going to the DMV or the Dentist.

  437. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Andrews Mom…

    If your boy gets to play today, I have confidence he will do well..

  438. 4evaRaider Says:

    watchin new-england-buffalo; it dosent matter who plays QB 4 the pats.,that o-line is very disciplined.with continuity look what happens.AD wants to change systems 2 much.make-up our mind Al so we can get started

  439. Senile Kings' Aricept Says:

    As crazy as this sounds….drafting Nnamdi was a terrible idea … Huh ? What?…The bottom line is because is the ONLY example in recent memory of successfully teaching an athlete to play football, it gives Al Davis amunition that his overall plan will work…As much as I hate the Patriots,( Tuck rule, Belicheat…etc…), you gotta admit that the scheme of drafting football players over athletes has worked out pretty well for them…After our one shining example, Nnamdi, finally “gets it”, he can’t wait to make even more money in free agency….

  440. Senile Kings' Aricept Says:

    ….because HE is the only example…sorry…

  441. 4evaRaider Says:

    man could we use a MLB like Vrable

  442. Al Davis INC Says:

    we could use a new post jerry mac

  443. 4evaRaider Says:

    I can see that logic SKA

  444. 909raiderlifer Says:

    NEW POST!!

  445. CantstandtheHaters Says:

    dont know HOW i ended up here but while im here i wont go b4 i say hes a PAID man now. CJ that is…

    saying he completly earned it with game-changing performances while wondering if this ever will be read by someone lol!!!

    GO RAIDERS!!!

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