Russell out; what if Walter wins?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, November 9th, 2008 at 11:48 am in Oakland Raiders.
Updates with all inactives, release of Fred Wakefield . . .
So now it’s official. JaMarcus Russell won’t start today’s game against the Carolina Panthers with a rather sudden and advancing case of right knee tendinitis.
When the Raiders released their inactive list, Russell was listed as the No. 3 quarterback, with Walter as the starter. Other inactives include running back Darren McFadden and wide receiver Ronald Curry, who got on the field for one snap last week as a shotgun quarterback, only to have the play nullified by a penalty.
Which begs the quesiton _ what if Walter plays with minimal error and some real efficiency?
What if after 48 first-half possessions with one touchdown under Russell, Walter sticks it in the end zone a couple of times and maybe a third time in the second half?
What if the Raiders’ doormant wide receivers make a few plays on balls thrown with some real loft and touch, instead of waiting for a laser beam to explode into the sides of their helmets?
What if Raiders running back circle out of the backfield on screens and wheel routes break free af few times on touch passes Russell has not been able to complete consistently?
What if the Raiders actually win?
Of the top 35 quarterbacks listed in order of pass completion percentage, Russell ranks 35th.
The Raiders have maintained the position that Russell is actually playing well, he’s gotten praise every week, whether it was from Lane Kiffin or Tom Cable. The problem has to do with the passing game as a whole, when taking into account pass protection, timing and scheme.
Then again, Russell was also urged by Cable to “turn it loose,” to throw the ball to a target before it breaks rather than waiting until its too late. That would indicate that Russell is still to hesitant and too green to operate as an NFL quarterback.
One of the myriad issues between Kiffin and Al Davis was his kid gloves treatment of Russell. When Kiffin was fired, Davis said it was time for Russell to be set free.
In the four games since, with Cable trying to develop the future of the franchise, the Raiders have lost touch with their running game and Russell has been unable to carry the offense.
Should Walter accomplish what Russell could not, against an NFC South division leader that manhandled the same Atlanta team that embarassed the Raiders last week, it presents an interesting dilemma.
When the Raiders travel to Miami next week, do you start the quarterback who just won a game or the $60 million man?
Kind of hard to justify the“we play the players who give us the best chance to win” rhetoric if Cable either goes back to Russell or is told to go back to Russell.
Stay tuned.
Wakefield waived, Gunheim promoted
Along with McFadden, Russell and Curry, Raiders declared inactive were FB Jason Davis, DE Derrick Burgess, OLB Ricky Brown and C John Wade.
Fred Wakefield, who played offensive and defensive line for the Raiders, was waived in favor of practice squad end Greyson Gunheim. Gunheim is active for today’s game.
Inactives for the Panthers were CB C.J. Wilson, LB James Anderson, G Mackenzy Bernadeau, T Omiyale, WR Dwayne Jerrett, WR Kenneth Moore and DT Darwin Walker. Matt Moore was designated as the third quarterback.
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November 9th, 2008 at 11:49 am
No comment
November 9th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Get ready for 2-7 boys……..at least feature Michael Bush in this game to at least see what he can do
November 9th, 2008 at 11:53 am
any sports bars showing the raiders in sacrmento i would love to watch andrew walters prove they are who we thougth they were the same raiders not the quarterback its the whole team from top to bottom office to on the field
November 9th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Abandon the run!
Abandon the blitz!
Abandon ship!
November 9th, 2008 at 11:56 am
or they still get beat 45-3?
November 9th, 2008 at 11:56 am
how can curry be so bad?
November 9th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Jerry Porter scored a TD for Jacksonville. Hes matched Javon Walker’s total for the year.
November 9th, 2008 at 11:58 am
The Jets score 40 points in the first half. I have Jerricho Cotchery (WR) on my fantasy team and the Mother Effer has 1 reception for 18 yards. How lame.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Andrews Mom…
I have confidence your boy will do well today, just hope the O-line doesn’t get him boloed..
November 9th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Clink..it’s bloodymary time, cheers!
November 9th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Good morning Jerry, fellow Raider fans. (It’s morning till 1pm pacific, far as I’m concerned..)
Not happy about the move. I’d rather we keep JaMarcus in and go back to a Kiffin playbook, of taking what the defense gives us and thus giving Russ some high percentage consistency, as opposed to scapegoating Russell for a tired old offense that no quarterback can succeed in, including Andrew Walter, as we saw two years ago.
I’ll be rooting for Walter but I expect them to be digging him out of the dirt at some point in the 3rd quarter. …Just keeping it real.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Yeah, good luck Mrs. W.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Andrew (shell-shocked) Walter will have no chance behind the sieve-like Ol of the Raiders. all this “what if” stuff is a waste of time & copy space.
Given a similar situation with any other NFL team (aside from Detroit & Cincinnati)which actually afford protection for their QB I agree it would serve JRuss well to sit & learn. However, what will he glean from watching a prone Walter? Creative ways to protect oneself while being sacked?
Adam Schefter; I really don’t like the punk. However, he is far more accurate than Chris Mortensen @ (B)ESPN. Thus when he indicates Gibral Wilson, among others, want out of the fiasco by the bay I did stand up & take notice.
He went on to say another prominent (only a couple of those) Raider considered “jumping ship” & taking a leave of absence, eschewing the remainder of this years salary. Wow!
And, finally, Lane Kiffin, of all people, recommended the Deadskins sign (M)DeAngelo Hall for the remainder of this season.
Why don’t we pool our resources & offer Al a golden parachute, reminiscent of the fate of other failed business executives?
All this even before today’s game!
Late
Antispy3
November 9th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
BTW, I’m fulling expecting Oakland to get creamed today. I’m seriously considering (for all the good it’ll do) an online petition asking Roger Goodell to either: A) appoint a GM to run the Raiders’ football operations, or B) force Davis to sell the team. Any thoughts?
November 9th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
what ifs? still a team on the decline. I just want to at least compete. Walter – Russell? don’t care! just step and play.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Go back to kiffy’s offense for what! Is it to see fargas run at the middle of the line 30 times for 50 yards. That would be entertaining for you!!
November 9th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Unknown, Kiffin was no Bill Walsh, we’re all agreed. But Kiffin’s passing game was perfect for developing Russell into being an NFL quarterback. Get him a rhythm. Get him used to working underneath the so many defenses that will be playing for his long arm. We’re basically throwing Russell out there and expecting him to run the old vertical game. Routes beyond 10 yards, etc. In today’s NFL, you have to work your way to those. Especially when you’re the Raiders and opponents will always be playing the deep pass.
What do I see in Walter today, Unknown? What I saw two years ago. Why should I see anything different?
November 9th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
we’re not going to win so there is nothing to worry about
November 9th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Go Walter!
Just Win Baby!
November 9th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
kiff’s a Dink. never liked him. Raiders need to go back to the basics, block and tackle.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Block and tackle… What a concept.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
BTW, Unknown, a rebuilding team being patient and taking the NECESSARY steps to becoming a competitive team actually IS entertaining, to me. I like seeing the Raiders improving. I thought the ‘98 and ‘99 seasons were exciting despite winding up at 8-8, because I could see a Raider team molding into what would wind up being a Super Bowl team. That does entertain me, as a matter of fact. It’s forcing deep plays that the defense is not giving you, and showing no improvement whatsoever that actually bores me, Unknown. Guess different fans get excited about different things. Some fans are perfectly cool with losing week after week if we just sneak a deep play in here and there. I’d rather we get back to being a winning team again.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Al Davis hired James Lofton to coach the wide receivers.
Great hire by a genius who knows football rigth?
November 9th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Watching, Titans vs. Bears. The Titans O-line is giving Collins, just enough time to throw. He looks like Y.A. freaking Tittle out there.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
MR
It’s simple as pie. We won’t win anything until we have effective qb play! It doesn’t seem like we will have a dominant defense anytime soon, so we need an effective offense to give us hope! We need an upgrade at every position except rb.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Anyone know of a site that’ll stream a video broadcast of the game?
November 9th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Enjoy the game today, guys. I’m not going to butt heads with the same people over the same things, today. You guys see it from your end and I see it from mine. And, I think you made a good point, Yoda, if we just get the fundamentals of the game right, tackling, blocking, etc., that could be the answer. But I think we’re regressing back to the old vertical game, and don’t think we can win with it no matter how good our blocking and tackling is. The game’s too nuanced and complicating, now. Got defensive coordinators working full time, and overtime, and running a basic offense just makes their job too easy, no matter your talent. Anyhow, enjoy the game, everyone. I hope Andrew Walter’s alive tonight, let alone victorious.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Matt Ryan vs. New Orleans Saints
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT
16/21 248 11.8 2 0
November 9th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Off to the local dive, to watch the game. Hope that Andrew does well.
Have a good one everybody, you to MR.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Who are we playing this week?
November 9th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
You actually have to ask who we’re playing?
November 9th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
where can i get the live game on line
November 9th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Read the blog Jerry posted.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
I hope Russel develoups into a good QB but if he doesn’t he will be a great example on why just drafted college players should not get huge contracts before they have ever proven anything in the NFL. Vince Young is another example of that, though he didn’t go until fifth overall and didn’t get the rediculous contract Russel did.
November 9th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Oops..almost forgot.
Go Raiders!
November 9th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
all good points by jerry mac today….go walter goooooo raidahs
November 9th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Anyone here have the NFL ticket? Anyhow, I’ll be giving my synopsis of the contest here this week.
Consider yourselves privileged!
November 9th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Jerry, I’m not sure if I like the tone of your type today…
Russell is the future….lol to any other idea!
November 9th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Does anyone know where I can watch the game online, I want to see if walter does any better than Russell
November 9th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
jambusto will never see the field again for the raidahs
November 9th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
I don’t care if the Raiders win today and Walter is the reason….
Russell is right where he needs to be….
November 9th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
I was being facetious, dumba$$. It’s hard to care any more.
Go Red Raiders!
November 9th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
post 12 AntiSpy3 lol =)
November 9th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
yea elkins he is huh…on the bench
November 9th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
13 sorry
November 9th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I wouldn’t even respond if someone asked who we are playing…get a fuccing life
November 9th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
lol @ Al Davis Inc…
November 9th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
And “What If” Andrew Walter gets mugged all day?
I’m still pullin’ for him, just being realistic….
November 9th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Joe Montana couldn’t have success with the Raider Offensive scheme….Has nothing to do with Russell whasoever!
November 9th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
HowieLongshlong, I’m sure he will get mugged all day
November 9th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Walter is going to get sacked at least 5 times today….maybe more if the Raiders get down early and try to pass to catch up….
We’ll have to see if they can keep the game respectable in the 1st half.
They just might!
November 9th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Coach Elkins, yeah it has a lot to do with Russell. Even when he does have time he doesn’t look good. He can’t hold on to the ball, so far he’s a bust. I hope he turns it around..this injury, come on, he needs to play
November 9th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
if walter gets 75 yds today I will come in here and post 5th that i was wrong, wish i could get 1st post but too many covet that one lol
November 9th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
RAW – are you in North America? If not you can watch any NFL game live via NFL gamepass
November 9th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
LOL at what IF.
and LMAO at the Raiders winning.
STFU jerry!!
November 9th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Nothing to do with Russell..
This team has never had even an average play caller, let alone the scheme behind the calling of the plays to have it matter.
No screen game whasoever, aside from a little dump screen they run once every two games.
If Russell is hurt, why play him today? Don’t we have a problem at LT, his backside?
I have a feeling Walter is in for some pain today…?
November 9th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
you believe there is a injury 0525? hahahahaa not me man obvious he would play threw some knee pain…he knows the bench gets sticky and his play is worse than bad. they set him period, the team is losing hope and they have to stop that fast. walter will look ok to decent
November 9th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Anyone besides myself have the NFL ticket?
November 9th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Al please, please just die TODAY
November 9th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
hey coach, do you actually wacth the game ever???? If so then you can see him drop the ball, you can see him over throw people even when he has time…doesn’t seem very bright. Dont get me wrong I hope he does work out but right now, not happening…open your eyes
November 9th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
LOL@ Walter is facing a huge pass rush…
He isn’t going to do okay…
He is a scapegoat!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
The “IF” was if he has that LITTLE yardage…no way possible Walter is a NFL QB jambusto is a college qb thats the difference
November 9th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Al Davis INC, no I don’t believe he is injured at all
November 9th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Elkins ur starting to sound like a tool man. Walter will make the offense look 100% better than jambusto does
November 9th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
LOL….okay buddy!Keep your handle, we’ll watch the game together and see, won’t we!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
He can’t do any worse, thats for sure
November 9th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
yea 0525…I personally think Al knows Walter is more than servicable…and might realize he burned a 1st overall and ready to make the change . Cant let walter walk if he makes this decesion
November 9th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Normally I might agree, but not against this Defensive Line….
2nd best in the NFL, behind the Giants!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Run at brayton all day!!!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Raiders recieve Kickoff!
Higgins to the 15 and fumbles…
November 9th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Panthers ball!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
sorry elkins didnt mean to attack you there…yea we will see, so will you admit your wrong?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Walter will have to wait to shine…LOL
Who is John Galt?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Higgins is good.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
He must go!!!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
You can’t attack me….I wouldn’t assume it…
November 9th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
well…
i’ve had enough for today…
take care…
November 9th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Billick doing the game…..a plus!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
3rd and 10…1st and 10 at the 3 for the Panthers
November 9th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Watching the Raiders this season has sapped the humor out of all of you. LOL
November 9th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Raider TO
November 9th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
the game isnt on locally omfg they arent putting the raiders on here, unheard of! they always put raiders and 49ers on here omg….they have really falling badly wow
November 9th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
How anybody got a link where I can watch the game on my Computer.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
How to scout the raiders?
Jump on them real early and they can recover.
This means a fumble, a no-huddle offense, whateever it takes to make them go down into a hole.
This aplies to the season too.
Make the raiders star 2-6 and thats it for them.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
forgot to add im not in the blackout area, they just refused the raider game wow
November 9th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Raiders Link
http://www.andromedanet.com/tvtuner_planetsports_nfl.html
November 9th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
TD Muhammad!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Great start!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Touchdown….We stink….still
November 9th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
matt ryan tore up new orleans 2day
November 9th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
thats it
raiders 2-7
November 9th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
7-0 Panthers
13:25 Remaining 1st Quarter
November 9th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Lol, I couldn’t have said it better, this is from the sportsline live glog:
Hollywood couldn´t have written this script. After getting trounced last week against ATL and getting a ton of bad press all week they Oakland starts off today by fumbling the ball on the opening kickoff. Of course Carolina recovered. Fans should start heading for the exit already. No point in staying and paying $8.00 a beer.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
well the screw ups start already, LJH lays the ball down on the carpet and the cats put up a quick 7pts!!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
How do we get the link to work??
November 9th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
I keep thinking about the scene from the movie “The Natural” when the hypnotist says…
“Losing is a disease”!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Fargas running like a madman on 1st carry….
Gotta love that guy!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
more update guys im dying here
November 9th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Fargas, 2 carries 15 Yards
November 9th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Walter completes 1st pass, play action on 1st down. to Tony Stewart, 3 yard gain
November 9th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/gamecenter/live/NFL_20081109_CAR@OAK
this is a decent place to follow the game.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
losing is a disease
raidesra have been sick since gruden left
November 9th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Raiders have ball, 3rd down and 3 on their 42 yard line..
Toss left for a first down…Fargas for 10 yards
November 9th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Running Left so far…
November 9th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
This can’t be our team…. actually moving the ball!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
1st and 10..
Play Action…Walter hits checkdown Lawton for 5 yards….2nd and 5 across in Panther territory
November 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
whos the LT?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Raider Time Out
November 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Art Shell.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
thanks Elkins great job man lol
November 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
what if walter wins today?
end of jamarcus?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
i wish dakota art was a beast
November 9th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Running the ball very well…all run plays have been to the left…
Smart to wear down the pass rush to that side…
November 9th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
No prob…just remember I did this when I’m coaching this team next season…lol
Who is John Galt?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Walter is not going to win today…don’t worry. Plus, Walter would rather play in Canada than stay another year in Fukland.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
you would be a better HC elkins…cant get much worse
November 9th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
2nd and 6
Raiders throw deep….
Javon Walker drops deep ball, perfect pass, might have been outta bounds had he caught it….but he didn’t
November 9th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
3rd and 6
Sacked by Peppers, time to punt
November 9th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
And a promising drive results in. .. a sack
November 9th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
TUI TUI TUI
November 9th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Might have wanted to run the ball after the time out on 3rd and 6…but what do i Know!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Russell can’t hand off the ball and throw short? J.C.!!!!
If we were just going to do this, why don’t we play Russell and let him develop?
Here I was thinking we were putting Walter in because Walter was going to come out and go over the top of the secondary, yet he’s doing nothing but handing off the ball and throwing short…SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE DOING WITH RUSSELL, and something Russell can easily do! Meanwhile, we start Russell last week and throw him to the wolves, expecting HIM to air out the ball, giving him no support via calling running plays, short passing plays, etc.
Only this f’n team. I swear. Hey, we keep this up, we’ll win today. But Russell misses out on yet another week of development. Just stupid.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Walter must go!!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
this is why yavonne needs to be cut tommorrow
November 9th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
on 2nd and 6…not 3rd ooops!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
No punch by our Offesnive Line on pass drops…..ugly stuff
November 9th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
hey mr …what if russell choses to only throw deep sorta like jeff george? some players arent smart
November 9th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Panthers 1st and 10 9 yard line….run play no gain
November 9th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Don’t worry guys, Rob Ryan’s family has five super bowl rings, we are in good hands! lmfao
November 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
ASO!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
1 handed pick by asomough..what a f’in catch
November 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
WOW
November 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Namdi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Leadership
November 9th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
so the cats move their playmaker peppers around and gets an easy sack against cooper carlisle would looked like he just casually steps back. This is the kind of o line we have. Lets see what adjustments ryan makes with his d????? I will not hold my breath!!!!!!!!!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Johnson must have scared Delhomo into throwing towards Nnamdi?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
im crying in my booze….fking local tv station gonna hear this tomm
November 9th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
That play could jump start the season!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
That was the best coverage I’ve ever seen…perfect technique
November 9th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
If JR wasn’t overthrowing his short targets, he would be starting today. Unfortunately, he couldn’t even get that done so that is why Walter is in there, doing the simple things that JR has failed to do.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Raider 1st and 10…24 yard line
November 9th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
what a fuccing int…he’s great
November 9th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
28 yard line…excuse me
November 9th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Hiw will we fuk this one up? fumble, int, sacks or just get a fg?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Raiders use 3rd Time Out his half…still first quarter
November 9th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
what great time management…thats coaching
November 9th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Lol funny man, I hope no one here has high hopes about this game, or for the rest of the season…..I still support the raiders but there’s not much life in me to get excited about them, with all this loosing
November 9th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
LOL @ #138
Whatever Pal
November 9th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Aso is the mutha fn MAN!!!! Al pay hom now!!!!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Keep Dreaming….
November 9th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
That’s Al’s fault they are out of timeouts!! Dummies
November 9th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Run the ball please
November 9th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
lol…3 TOs in 8 minutes! we suck.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
1st and 10…16 yard line…swing pass to Bush
November 9th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Hole E Crap…. another 1st down. Bush
November 9th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Picked off in the end zone…
LOL @ Unknown…
Gotcha
November 9th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
And another promising drive ends in… a pick
November 9th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Who is John Galt?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Aso is the mutha fn MAN!!!! Al pay him the big money now!!!! Shut down cb in the truest sense
November 9th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Uh oh….WALTER IS A BUST!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Panther ball…1st down pass dropped….
2nd and 10 (9 yard Line)
November 9th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
the guy was held and fell, you blame walter on that
November 9th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
3rd and 7
1st down
November 9th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
omg did any one catch the grab of the jersey on schilens just before he went down!!! that int was not walters’ fault! it should have been a flag for a hold on schilens
November 9th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Nope, I blame Al Davis.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
LOL to the people who said we should let Nnamdi go!
LOL LOL
November 9th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Raiders Defensive Scheme is always dictated by the Offensive formation….
We are always reacting instead of forcing the action
Back to the game
Tommy Kelly gets sack, but get a facemask call…
1st and 10 (28 yard line)
November 9th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Raiders are giving effort…thats for sure…no quit!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Why are you doing a play by play Elkins? People, just go here to follow the game:
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/gamecenter/live/NFL_20081109_CAR@OAK
November 9th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
It’s like watching the keystone cops
November 9th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
3rd and 5
dropped by Steve Smith or he might have gone
November 9th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
coach, it’s the first quarter…give them time, they will quit…lol
November 9th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Panther Punt
Fair catch at the 19 by Higgins
November 9th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
TV timeout…
They aren’t quitting yet…thats all I’m saying…
1st down pass to Walker…15 yard gain
November 9th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Peppers causes fumble by Walter…Raider retain possession
November 9th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Elkins,
Drop the fuking play by play. jesus
November 9th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
2nd and 10…
0 gain by fargas run
November 9th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
How you like that Kwame Harris,,,,
WHat a JOKE
November 9th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
big ass terrell sands
sounds like they’re saying
turdell
November 9th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
ok coach I will give you that
November 9th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Selecting Kwame Harris as a starting Left Tackle???
Where’s the Commissioner?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Dakota, I didn’t ask!
November 9th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
3rd and 14 and you run the fuccing ball….give me a break
November 9th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Honestly,this is a huge what-if, but what if Walter did win? What would we do?
Probably come up with excuse that Jamarcus still has tendinitis so we can start Walter again…
November 9th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
They are saying Turdell
November 9th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
I bet Peppers ends up with 4 sacks
November 9th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
go fuk yourself Elkins, if people are too dumb to find a site to follow the game they can just eat schit.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
4th and 12 woot! massive offense
November 9th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Anybody see Jamarcus on the sideline when Javon caught that last pass… Knee looks fine to me
November 9th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
same old shyttt, all they have to do is bring pressure to our o line and they crumble. Harris still and will always suck. He lucked out he recovered the fumble! You could put montana or elway behind this line would look bad
November 9th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Temper temper Dakota….
Here you go..I have a present for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P13gQdardGw
November 9th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Maryland Raiderfan,
Post 190 is right on. Saw the same B.S against the Ravens.
Kwame Harris is not a starting left tackle. Yet al and Tom gave him millions
Where’s the Commissioner?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Am I stealing your thunder?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Put in super mario. We need to see if he can be a left tackle in this league before we go out and draft one with a top4 pick.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Raiders are playing man coverage all day long….
Panthers to Punt
November 9th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Coach Elkins Says:
November 9th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Am I stealing your thunder?
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No d1ckhead you are not even on the most current thread. lol
November 9th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
I will be pretty easy to cut Kwame though. Not much of cap hit there. Looks like we can’t pick up other people’s garbage like we used to.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Dakota…are those the only bullets in your gun?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
I like kalimba Edwards.. I think he’s a keeper man.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
look folks, walker makes one catch and shows some effort and breaks a tackle hurting his ankle! Thanks Al who is walter going to throw to now? nmamdi?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
marios in
November 9th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Yeah Kalimba has been decent. Just has to stop lining up upsides. Seen him do that a couple times.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
We have a really really good… punter
November 9th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
LOL at Sam Williams
good job chris Johnson
November 9th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Is Javon out for the game?
November 9th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
deangleo hall made man coverage look hard;/
November 9th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Getting rid of deangelo was the best play we have made all season
November 9th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
post192,youre preaching to the boys,does zero good,please STOP sounding like a BROKEN RECORD
November 9th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
As I’ve always said, Andrew Walter sux and will NEVER be a quality NFL QB.
Walter is very inaccurate and still afraid after 4 yrs in the league.
Uncle Al, please find 2 or 3 receivers who can run routes and catch the football. The Raiders receiver corp is the worse in the league
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