Game balls galore
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, November 24th, 2008 at 3:54 pm in Oakland Raiders.
It was raining game balls in Alameda Monday, the result of a 31-10 win over the Denver Broncos to snap a four-game losing streak.
Fourteen of them were bestowed upon the Raiders by coach Tom Cable.
Defensive game balls went to cornerback Chris Johnson, safety Gibril Wilson, safety Rashad Baker, defensive tackle Tommy Kelly and linebacker Thomas Howard.
Editorial aside: Nnamdi Asomugha was the only member of the secondary to missed out. What a slacker. Kelly may be the first player to ever receive a game ball without showing up a single time in the postgame stat book.
Those honored on offense were quarterback JaMarcus Russell, guard Cooper Carlisle, wide receiver Ashley Lelie, running back Justin Fargas, running back Darren McFadden and tight end Zach Miller.
Special teams game balls went to punt return specialist Johnnie Lee Higgins and core special teamer Marquis Cooper, who has stepped into all four special teams and been a solid player since the day he arrived.
One more _ assistant coach Willie Brown got a game ball for speaking to the team before the game about the history of the Denver rivalry.
More news, notes and analysis:
– Two Cable slogans appear to be clashing somewhat. When he took over as coach, down came Lane Kiffin’s “I’m in” banner in favor of “1-0.” Cable’s message was to never look ahead or behind, focus only on the task at hand.
Except after beating the Broncos, Cable was talking in terms of 2-0.
“A lot of positives,” Cable said. “In terms of turning the corner and all that, I think you have to answer that after next Sunday. To me, you win a game, it makes you feel good. You win two games now you can start to believe.
“That’s the approach we’re taking this week. This is a huge game for us, just like Denver was. We’re going to prepare that way and get after it.”
Perhaps they’ll just go 1-0 for a second straight week.
– Cable confirmed what was obvious to those who watched the game on television _ that McFadden lobbied hard for the play which resulted in the Raiders first offensive touchdown in 15 quarters. McFadden took a pitch from Russell after a play fake and easily turned the corner for a 1-yard scoring run.
“We didn’t have the flip play out of that formation and he said, `If you give it to me out of the formation where I can get it, I can get it into the end zone.’ So we called the formation where he could get the ball,” Cable said.
– Russell had his most efficient game as a Raider while dealing with family issues and the death of his godmother in Mobile, Ala. Russell left the team Friday night and returned Saturday night, handling personal issues while at the same time being prepared to play.
“He and I had our typical Wednesday meeting,” Cable said. “We talked about it every day to make sure the plans and everything were in order. He took care of it. He met us (in Denver) and got through his review and all the things that we do in preparation for the game. And, obviously, he played very well.”
– Defensive end Derrick Burgess had just two tackles and showed up only occasionally as a pass rusher _ he was in Jay Cutler’s face on one bootleg run his way _ but his presence was a plus, Cable said.
“I think he’d be the first to tell you he’s a little bit rusty. But at the same time he gave our team some needed energy,” Cable said. There’s no question about that. As he gets back into it, like I think you saw with Darren McFadden, you expect him to be better this week and he will be.”
– Pass rushers will receive no special counsel after Howard was called for two personal fouls for roughing the passer, with Gerard Warren getting another. The two on Howard were borderline at best.
“We have to play the game the way we’re supposed to play it which is all out,” Cable said. “It’s unfortunate but it is what it is so let’s just keep ripping it. Calls will go our way soon.”
– As noted last night, the Raiders’ willingness to put the penalities aside and just play without getting all caught up in the blame game with regard to officials was a positive sign.
“I believe this, that we’re beginning to rely on each other and not worry about the negatives,” Cable said. “If I make a mistake, then you’re going to pick me up. If you do something wrong, I got your back.
“And I think that’s starting to happen. I think that it’s that whole thing about team mentality that we’ve been working for and I just felt that, really for a little while now, and I think it really kind of came
together a little bit yesterday.”
One example came after Higgins was called for unsportsmanlike conduct for doing a backflip following his 89-yard punt return for a touchdown, forcing Sebastian Janikowski to kickoff at a 15-yard disadvantage.
With one mighty swing of his left leg, Janikowski still reached the goal line with his kickoff and the Broncos opened at the 26.
Janikowski, who covets touchbacks, told Higgins not to let it happen again.
“He was a little salty to me but in the end we got back and I was like, ‘It’s my bad. Just blame that up on me.’ He was like ‘no, it’s cool. We just can’t have penalties. It’s cool,’ ” Higgins said.
Higgins never saw the kickoff, which traveled 85 yards.
Editorial aside: Maybe Lane Kiffin had something with regard to that 76-yard field goal attempt after all.
“I was busy getting air,” Higgins said. “They say he probably could have kicked it to the second level.”
Cable thinks relieving Higgins of his kickoff return duties with the arrival of Justin Miller has enhanced his punt return skills.
“A kickoff returner is like saying, `you’re going to get in a head-on collision, and you’re a Volkswagon and here comes a Mack truck,’ ” Cable said. “That may distract you a little bit, you’ve go to be wired a little different for that one.”
– The play came back on a defensive holding call anyway, but Johnson was spoken to about his high-stepping interception return in which the ball was nearly knocked out by a Denver defender.
“That ball security isn’t good enough,” Cable said. “There was an opportunity right there to change the entire game had that ball gone the other way, went out of the back of the end zone or something like that. He’s aware of it. Next time it happens he’ll do the right thing.”
– Jon Alston, who carried his helmet in his hand after losing it on a block while running interference for Higgins, also started at strong side linebacker. Alston has been regarded as a tweener _ not really a safety or a true linebacker.
And it doesn’t matter to Cable.
“He doesn’t really look the part and those sort of things but he’s a football player,” Cable said. “He’s good for our team. He’s been tremendous on special teams and all that. He’s a good football player.”
– According to a note in the Rocky Mountain Tribune, Raiders CEO Amy Trask told a man in a Raiders jersey who was being led away in handcuffs by security that it was important to “be respectful” in someone else’s stadium.
Broncos fans had little respect for their own team. They weren’t booing Denver as Raider fans have taken to booing there team in some recent games, but then again, Raider fans weren’t running on to the field three separate times and interrupting the game.
Injury update
Safety Michael Huff left the game with a stinger and did not return, but Cable said he didn’t believe it to be a serious issue with regard to this week against the Chiefs. Center Jake Grove (calf) and linebacker Ricky Brown (groin), neither of whom were active against Denver, are “day-to-day.”
Cable said he thought Brown was getting closer to practicing. Grove said last week he expected to be ready by the time the Raiders played the Chiefs.
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November 24th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Who else would you expect to be first.
November 24th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Al wont get a game ball!!! lol
November 24th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I’m baaaccckkkkkk..
November 24th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
it’s just one game….don’t get too excited
November 24th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0609/gallery.nflcheerleaders.pg/images/chiefs016034889.jpg
November 24th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
What about US? Doesnt the NATION deserve a game ball too? I mean we stick by this team good or bad.. Jerry please bring this up @ the next presser…
November 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Narco_Boob is usually in here with you Brien, during the 3-4pm kiddie hour.
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It was great to see Huff back off that block in the back during Higgins punt return.
Now I go back to re-watch the 2nd half/out
November 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Raiders!!!
November 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
post 4…………..yes MR we know not to get excited
November 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/image/2007/11/25/op4p-4744.jpg
November 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
John Wade still better option at center Nnamdi21
November 24th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
KoolKell so why are you lying to people? Old ass man lying in the room like you ran me over with your corvette lol
November 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Bob isnt even on the computer you dumb shyt
November 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Raiders still have issues on the lines but playing with heart and passion can take you a long way. Glad to see some fight in the guys
November 24th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Einstein Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I’m baaaccckkkkkk..
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FROM THE FUTURE MARTY!
E= Energy + M=ass X C=elitrus2 (speed of light squared)
November 24th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
I love USC cheerleaders:
http://www.wcfcourier.com/blogs/beaton/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/usccheerleaders.JPG
November 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Wade= not as athletic than Grove by any means. But is much tougher and the oline is more physical with him in there. You must show some power playing on the line. Grove have zilch
November 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Brien(Let’s get MR a hooker) Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
John Wade still better option at center Nnamdi21
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Wade looked on yesterday and got 2nd level more often than not, something Grove could not do consistently.
Good game by Wade, but more shocking, Kwame Harris had his best day in Silver and Black
November 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Oregon Cheerleaders look much better, but USC cheerleaders are bad though
November 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Sweet:
http://www.trojanwire.com/hot-USC-cheerleaderspcc3.jpg
November 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Yeah Nnamdi whats up with that huh? Harris found his balls?
Damn shame how my LA friends told me the game wasnt on. Fu-king shame
November 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Oregon:
http://www.insidesocal.com/usc/oregon-duck-cheerleaders-1.jpg
November 24th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
http://www.collegefaceoff.com/pictures/1_2008-03-2709-44-37.jpg
November 24th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
See Nnamdi thats why I think you are cool .We dont always agree but you even saw the offense is better without Grove. Old farts like BHP think Grove is the best thing since slice bread
November 24th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
JaMarcuss Russell has officially had his coming out party and now his confidence is probably through the roof. We shouldnt be surprised if he plays like this for the rest of the year. Amazing what he can do when the line actually blocks for him. Amazing how good the defense can be when they execute thier assignments and the coordinator puts them in the position to make some plays. Welcome to the NFL JaMarcuss Russell.
November 24th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
– According to a note in the Rocky Mountain Tribune, Raiders CEO Amy Trask told a man in a Raiders jersey who was being led away in handcuffs by security that it was important to “be respectful” in someone else’s stadium————-
WTF Amy you traitor!
November 24th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Rick the Hunter………this is what we all want to happen. This game may have did wonders for his confidence. I expect him to play well against KC
November 24th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
http://bp2.blogger.com/_lGNADH5L7Fc/R9fpMGppHnI/AAAAAAAAAYM/crLcBBw-tXI/s1600-h/stokke2.png
November 24th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
408 lol she is a woman what did you expect. Also getting arrested at a football game is stupid. That image of us needs to stop. Many think we are all like that and its not true
November 24th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Brien(Let’s get MR a hooker) Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Raiders still have issues on the lines but playing with heart and passion can take you a long way. Glad to see some fight in the guys
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Hells to the yeah!
Couldn’t agree more…
November 24th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Did anyone see JaMarcus in his presser after the game? Dude looked like a flat out “gangsta pimp”. Had a white fur coat, sunglasses, and blingity bling shining all over the place.
November 24th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
How in the world did this team go 7/8 on 3rd down conv in the 4th quarter? That is crazy
November 24th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Brien was that you getting arrested? Did you tell Amy to stick it?
November 24th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Einstein……Russell is paid and he is from the south. They dress like that
November 24th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Rick The Hunter, Jamarcuss Russell was already here, finding someone who can catch the balls he throws bedsides Zach Miller is the welcome to the NFL part.
November 24th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Einstein I will never go to a game in Mile Low Invesco Field! I know I’m going to jail so why take that chance? I can only go to Raider games in Oakland. I cant take it
November 24th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Einstein Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Did anyone see JaMarcus in his presser after the game? Dude looked like a flat out “gangsta pimp”. Had a white fur coat, sunglasses, and blingity bling shining all over the place.
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Shows you how young he is.
Still doesn’t realize he’s been brain washed by mass media to glorify ugly negative stereo type.
Getting better as a Qb but his decision making isn’t quite there yet…
November 24th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Brien
yeah I’m still down with that guy who stabbed the discharger fan tho…
November 24th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
WAS ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION TO RHOUTT GETTING TORCHED…HE CAN’T TACKLE OR COVER..HE ALMOST LOOKS CONFUSED AT TIMES..
November 24th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I may get tossed out of the stadium sunday though .I’m gonna give LJ hell about how trashy of a person he is and that his career is close to being done
November 24th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Huff flat out sucks, they need to cut his azz.
November 24th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
AGED……..yeah Routt is sometimes here and sometimes there. Talented guy but has to be consistent
November 24th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Huff should be way better than this! Rashard Baker for god’s sake is better than Huff. Incredible
November 24th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
AGEDRAIDER Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
WAS ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION TO RHOUTT GETTING TORCHED…HE CAN’T TACKLE OR COVER..HE ALMOST LOOKS CONFUSED AT TIMES..
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That way all year.
Really disappointing. Thought this would be a break out year for him, but he couldn’t even win the vacancy left by Hall.
Demoted for slacking on special teams, he seems to have lost his passion for the game.
November 24th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
yes…john wade should be the starting center from here on out.
November 24th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Routt was half assing it on some plays. I saw it. He is much faster than that
November 24th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
give huff a chance @ db it worked with Nnamdi… Maybe cuz he was from CAL
November 24th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Darkknight= thank you. I knew you were a smart man. Toughness is lacking on Grove eventhough he is a better athlete than Wade
November 24th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
CAL= God’s team
November 24th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Spider u wish you knew what a hot cheerleader was.. Them donkey chicks yall got look like the mascot..
November 24th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Branch can cover
November 24th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Brien I didnt know you were a Cal Bears fan!
Go SHARKS!
November 24th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Hell yeah I’m a Cal guy all the way………damn near got my cousin to sign with them for basketball cuz montgomery is a winning coach. Met the staff and everything but lil cuzzo chose to stay home at Mizzou
November 24th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Dump Huff and make a big push for Boldin or Ocho 5
November 24th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Spider you are digging deep into that closet again huh? I dont swing that way. I do the ladies from your quiet mountain redneck town!!!
November 24th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Now even though we’re all excited about the blow out, we need not get too far ahead of ourselves because we’re still bad, we just happen to show a small glimpse of what we could be in hopefully the near future. We still have to get a real line and find a playmaker reciever in the draft (Crabtree) or a true middle linebacker (Mauluga, Luaranitis) then truly focus on both sides of the line. And fix our coaching situation once and for all, because Im still not sure Cable’s the true answer, afterall, 1 good win doesnt atone for a overall bad season. But still a great win.
November 24th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Yep Go BEARS! My whole family are USC fans.. Thankfully I have seen the light!
November 24th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
STD….miracles do happen. I guess. Too bad we couldn’t do best 6 out of 11. The Broncos would only need 5 more games to pull off that feat.
November 24th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
No lil cuzzo wanted to be in Mizzou for his family because he wants them to stay together. Kid is an amazing person. So unselfish!
November 24th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Denver all time record against the Raiders says loser. We got more hall of famers, titles, playoff wins and a bigger following. Havent you beein around as long as our franchise? Thank…..point RAIDERS
November 24th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Brien,
Wade just adds more of an attitude to the line and he is stronger than Grove, and he also has far more experience in big games and has a winning attitude. Grove seems like he is burnt out already.
November 24th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
So how does little cuzzo fit into your family tree dykeboy?
November 24th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Elway= loser never won a legit title and had a losing record against the Raiders. Fuggin joke he is and Cal ended his college career with the play!!!
November 24th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Blah blah blah blah all time record this and that. So you were hot during the infancy days of the AFL…B F D. At your current rate The records will be balanced before you know it.
November 24th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Lil cuzzo is my first cousin. My dad and his dad are blood brothers. Same last name as me anad everything. I’m talking his immediate family……mom,dad, brother and sister he wants them to all be together. He felt if he left things would go a little bad. But he is so unselfish. Good kid and got nominated for all american this year!!!
November 24th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Yep Go Bears! And Sharks!
November 24th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
balanced? you have to win 3 titles legit to be on our level. has that happened?
November 24th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Yes to Boldin….a big NO to the pre madonna Ocho Cinco!
November 24th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
u gonna always be runner up donkey dude!
November 24th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
I dont do hockey too much but Im down for the boys at the tank in SJ…….They need to win th Stanley Cup in SJ so the party can go nutso off Santa Clara street
November 24th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
forget boldin and ocho…..gimme TJ Housmanzadeh. Cali kid
November 24th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
WE CAN ALWAYS WATCH A SHARKS WIN
November 24th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Dakota you said…
“Getting O’Neal back will be key for our offense. I can’t wait to watch McFadden run behind his lead blocks next season (hopefully)”
I fully agree, but I really think the fans here doesn’t give Griffith enough credit, OO said he credits his blocking to what Griffith taught him, and then add Griffith has nearly as good hands as McFadden and bush..
Plus he is a leader and a good fella in the locker room, something I know Al doesn’t care about, but modern players does.. and me
November 24th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
All I can is wow, the team played with heart and a real determination. Chris Johnson looks like a Raider and isn’t funny that Davis was the one who wanted him active vs. the Bills? Maybe he still may have a slight clue, not backing him at all but he got that one right. You know Zack can be a real star that grab for a first down showed great athletic ability. Fargas is such a pro and Russell showed me something even my friend a real Steeler nut said the td to lelie was awesome. Howard the last 2 games has come to life. not going to get carried away but the play calling has gotten so much better, they are really slowing down defenses. So much to say, but draft should be about oline no way should they draft Crabtree in the first round.
November 24th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
BTW if by some miracle you girlz tied the Broncos at the end of the season for the division and it came down to total point differential who would take the division?
November 24th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
MR is wrong AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
spider..your a typical knee jerk moron..im spider stop or i will go home..you brought it here everyday looooozer ..now its our turn to give you crap girly..
Go ahead, just let me know when you’re ready to start so I can know what it feels like
November 24th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
That you OG?
Come on man let it go…
November 24th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
see now you guys pissed off the mod dude…
November 24th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
408Raider,
I’ve lived all over this planet and there are lovely women, homely women, voluptuous women, haggardly women, sexy women and prudish women everywhere there is to go. Even here in California are all of them. You want hotter? Try Brasil or Argentina. Calif has nothing on that.
November 24th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
MR is wrong AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
spider. so you can blog on this sight and continually throw crap at us and due to your hurt feelings we must stop because you gave us props yesterday.. what a baby you are a loooooozer..did you cry..can i still throw donkey crap your way or will you get upset..
spider your a gutless moron..you are a wussy..
MR’s a$$wipe, you guyz talk smack about the Broncos almost half as much as you talk smack about one another. When or why would I ask you to stop. I am merely pointing out to you ladiez that one win does not make you SB champs. Like your old Virginia Slim commercials used to say, “you’ve come a long way baby.” But you girliez have barely just come out of the starters gate and you have a long way to go. And frankly you girlz aren’t organized enough to get there anytime soon.
November 24th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Like your governor once said, “I’ll be boch.”
November 24th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
#
# M Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
408Raider,
I’ve lived all over this planet and there are lovely women, homely women, voluptuous women, haggardly women, sexy women and prudish women everywhere there is to go. Even here in California are all of them. You want hotter? Try Brasil or Argentina. Calif has nothing on that.
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true enough I like the diversity here in the bay area thats all Im sayin…
November 24th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
I still suck
November 24th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
oreokell, said she is watching the Raiders game again, today. For what, you Raider hater.
oreokell, dakotex, and MissRaider=same troll
November 24th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
going to the bathroom to take a crap is like seeing myself with other people eyes
November 24th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Where is Argentina?
November 24th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
“Kelly may be the first player to ever receive a game ball without showing up a single time in the postgame stat book.
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Yeah, I’ve watched the game twice, and haven’t seen Tommy Kelly either time.
November 24th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
The oreo is watching an Al Davis owned team. Eating words I see.
November 24th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
# 408RAIDER Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
That you OG?
Come on man let it go…
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408 I’ll make it real easy to ID me. Even tho 80% of “my” posts are not the real me. I am only here to discuss the Raiders and how the Raiders can get better. If you have a different opinion than me on how the Raiders can get better so be it, that is fine. If you start calling names, it is on. If you post over and over the same Raider hating garbage, it is on. Pretty simple really.
November 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
This was nice too
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One example came after Higgins was called for unsportsmanlike conduct for doing a backflip following his 89-yard punt return for a touchdown, forcing Sebastian Janikowski to kickoff at a 15-yard disadvantage.
With one mighty swing of his left leg, Janikowski still reached the goal line with his kickoff and the Broncos opened at the 26.
Janikowski, who covets touchbacks, told Higgins not to let it happen again.
November 24th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
pathetic..
November 24th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Finally Robbo decides to turn Howard loose. Duh you freakin idiot, I have been bitchin n here for 2 months to blitz Howard 5 times minnimum every game. Throw the ball to Zach minnimum 10 times every game. Well at least they almost got one of those accomplished. Just think of the results when they pull off both, result, more and more blow-outs.
November 24th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
I like Tom Cable, as a person.
November 24th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Right on OG.. You gotta remember Im still fairly new in here…
November 24th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
“Kelly may be the first player to ever receive a game ball without showing up a single time in the postgame stat book.
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Yeah, I’ve watched the game twice, and haven’t seen Tommy Kelly either time.
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He’s applying pressure and drawing double teams, but against the Broncos Oaklands DT’s struggled this year.
November 24th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
I like Tom Cable, as a person
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Oreo is begging for forgiveness. Not here sucka.
November 24th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Cutler’s only been sacked 7 times this year.
I saw Terdell Sands.
I didn’t see Tommy Kelly
I did see Kalimba
November 24th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Also you have been known to troll from time to time… Its all good tho..
November 24th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
See what happens when you get D-Mac outside. Gotta keep working to do more and more of that. Throw in some more option plays while your at it.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
never, he has never trolled, never I tell ya!! =)
November 24th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
408, you see oreokell is sucking up now. She likes the Raiders now. Silly people. lol
November 24th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Brien..
stop that racist talk, wont ya?
November 24th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Brien
Suk my dik, you little boy.
I was Diehard before you were born.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
You were oreo before Al was born. lol
November 24th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
One game does not make a trend nor a season. Been a lifelong Raider fan but getting excited over one win? I think not. These still are the players who’ve been beaten many a Sunday; coached by a group who has no consistency; and owned by a man dedicated to the destruction of a once proud francise by continually firing coaches and paying underperforming free agents. Until I a change in the organization’s mindset I fear season after season where we fans get excited by one win every 5-6 games.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Brien..
stop that racist talk, wont ya
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What 66 year old fart, tells another man to suk his lil dik? Answer that lmn, please.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
LMN
you ever try Mexican hot Chocolate? I just made a fire and me and the princess are making the
http://chocoibarra.com.mx/ingles/index.html
November 24th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
MissRaider, oreokell, dakotex is back as AlohaRaider.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
408, you are so kiddish with that post.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
I dont think thats Brien…
he has (lets get MR a hooker) after his name…
November 24th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Fake Brien you dont like Mexican Hot Chocolate? Im trying to hip LMN to so good tasty treats whats kiddish about that?
November 24th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Whatever, If the Raiders keep winning, and if you really go to games (which I doubt) I’ll still get a chance to spit in your face.
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How predictable was it, that Norv Turner would take all the steam out of San Diego?
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Tom Cable is a Uniter
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JaMarcus Russsell & Darren McFadden could help develop a new culture
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Al, Do the right thing by Nnamdi
November 24th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
408, don’t get on my bad side. I’m Brien. There is thousands of other Brien’s in this Country in case you didn’t know.
I’ll let you slide with the fake Brien reference, since, you don’t know any better. And I never heard of mexican chocolate.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Do the right thing michael jackson and get the hell out of here.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
408, do you like Oreo Cookies?
November 24th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Everything Norv Tuner touches goes to shiet.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Now I know you aint the 4 reals Brien but its all good #113 made me laugh..
November 24th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
impostor Brien Na I like oatmeal cookies tho…
November 24th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
I enjoyed the win as much as anybody but I can’t believe so many of you think we have turned the corner.
This team has about ten holes to fill before it will be competitive with the top teams.
Our offensive line is weak, we need about three quality starters at center, guard and tackle.
Our defense needs a beast at nose tackle and a MLB.
We currently have ten recievers on our roster, practice squad and IR and none of them are worth a sht!
Given our inability to draft to our needs, I would suggest a little more humility.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
I’m not going there today Brien, although you and 10 other little punks like you could’nt put me out of here. I’m feeeling goood today
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Like Tom Cable said, if we win next week, we’ll know more. Believe more.
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One good thing. JaMarcus seems to like the Denver Defense. 2 starts 2 convincing wins.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
408,
That Tard Boy Brien, is mad because, I have a white wife. He reminds me of that everyday, like it bothers me. I wouldn’t engage that troll if I were you. He’s what’s wrong with my community now.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
oreokell=mexican hot tamale 69Raider
November 24th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
408, you know better. I know.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
KK
whats wrong with having a white wife? I have a white brother in-law.. BTW I think thats a Brien troll….
November 24th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
69raider, you chew oatmeal and oreokell cookies. lol
November 24th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
KK
see the 4real Brien and I are cool he wouldn’t disrespect.. @ least not about race he actually is an enlightened guy when it comes to race..
I will however take your advice and ignore this troll brien..
November 24th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Brien
I take people as they come, black, white, brown, yellow, or otherwise.
But you seem to be a self-hating person. It’s a shame. But you can overcome. I would suggest, if you afford can’t travel, to start reading books.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
408RAIDER Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
KK
whats wrong with having a white wife? I have a white brother in-law.. BTW I think thats a Brien troll….
That is a troll 408. I was raised around good white people and married the woman of my dreams. That Tard doesn’t have anything constructive to do. He is being ignored by everyone.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Read Books, Brien. Broaden your mind.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
408RAIDER Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
KK
whats wrong with having a white wife? I have a white brother in-law.. BTW I think thats a Brien troll….
That is a troll 408. I was raised around good white people and married the woman of my dreams. That Tard doesn’t have anything constructive to do. He is being ignored by everyone
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Married the girl of your dreams? I heard it all, old fart. There is a sucka in every family and you’re playing that part with your new troll friend 69raider.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
KK its cool I give every 1 respect regardless of race color ect.. Some people are just A-holes regardless
November 24th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
OG
that has to be you.. Even MR doesnt pull the race card..
November 24th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Anyway, enough of that hateful foolishness
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I sure hope Cable can win another 3 games. I like the guy. He’s got people skills, that Kiffin did not. Imo, since I never met him. But he had a rep that suggests so.
And his pressers didn’t show me any different.
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And, as I said all along, he stunted Russell’s growth.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
69raider, your friend brien hates that old fart, also.
Everybody knows he is MissRaider, except you, fool.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Twocents,
Well said. We win 3 out of the next 5 then maybe we’re on to something. Beating KC won’t prove anything really. Losing to them win though. We couldn’t score for weeks then suddenly after 1 win people think we’ve (they) have turned everything around? Call me pessimistic but seriously; does really anyone deep down think we are on the right track? I wish I were as optimistic as some of the fans on here but after seeing what Davis has put together the last few years I’ll reserve judgement. Doesn’t make me any less of a die-hard Raider fan though. I’ve just been burnt too many times now.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
man im tired, slept 4 hours, and the last 5 hours i’ve been waiting for some americans to be done with their tasks, at least i can see MNF, but i rather see pillows LOL =)
November 24th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
I still think we need alot of line help … but if we @ leas beat the chefs and the chokers I will feel alot better about the season…
November 24th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
pathetic and vindictive nature you have.. why do you pollute with all this small minded b!tching?
November 24th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
408 I NEVER drop the race bomb, altho MR has done it in my name quite a few times, to try to ruin the blog. Ask KK. He and I have gotten into it a few times, never once have I ever dropped a race bomb on him or any one else here. No place for that here, or any where else for that matter. Now, calling MR a boner biting loser???? Can’t say I am above that. But calling MR THAT, is a statement of fact.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
twocents…
Why should anyone have humility here? This is a Raiders’ blog.
The Raiders put it to the Broncos, plain and simple.
Despite the record the Raiders have won games against 2 of the 3 division leaders in the AFC. (Jets and Broncos)
These wins are huge for a young team trying to find continuity and consistency.
Hope Cable takes his own advice and stops coaching so tight on offense. Time to have some fun and see who’s season we can f up next.
1 WR, 1 T, and 1 G could change a lot next season.
November 24th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
hahaha… you talk about race more than most..
November 24th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
LMN
after I pounded all those beers and shots I went to bed @ like 7pm last night I didnt even see the end of the choker game.. lol
November 24th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
K-rock
And a DT, a RE a REAL MLB a FS..
November 24th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
408..
I had to stay up to see if all AFC west teams would lose =) I slept like a kid after the indy win =)
4 hours later i was up and had to go to work, had a rather important day today..
We are thinking about buying new and bigger container cranes to port of Miami..
And now I wait for their some response from them, I have tehm suspected of not working an watching the game.. if it is so the will lose the job, thats for sure, then we will get Samsung or Hyundai to deliver..
November 24th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Looking at that Bunco offense, we need to look at their model and see what they did. They got their QB, and built a solid Oline and receivers to let him flourish.
Yesterday BTW, was an interesting comparison of young QB’s. On one hand you had a three year vet, widely considered one of the best young QB’s in the game, with weapons around him, a stalwart offensive line, playing in front of a boisterous crowd at home.
Then you had a guy who was making his 11th career start, with a line in disarray, a team in disarray, an offense in disarray, playing in a very hostile environment with no weapons and nothing to play for.
One guy had a great game an almost perfect game, while the other guy sucked, lost his composure and fell apart at the seams. Sucks to be their guy huh?
November 24th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Question: Having watched the defense with C. Johnson at Corner…how many games would we have won if we never picked up D. HAll?
November 24th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Raiders vs dischargers will be shown in 3d in NY, LA and Boston.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
S&B, I can answer that: most if not all of them.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
K-rock
And a DT, a RE a REAL MLB a FS..
………
No team has dominant players at every position.
A serviceable DT will be much easier to find than a quality T or G.
Look for Oakland to draft a FS. You know Al will be all over this.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
We need a stalwart LT. Must have. If we are drafting top 6 or 7 there is no doubt we have to take one at that slot. Especially the way our QB is destined to play.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
# Oakglenn’s Revenge Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
S&B, I can answer that: most if not all of them.
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A critical Al Davis mistake, no?
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But hey, I’m willing to let bygones be bygones.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
We are only missing dakotex now. Missraider, and OREOEOOOOOOOOO are here. I don’t know who’s who.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Well KK, I did NOT WANT to do that deal. Last draft was a DEEP DRAFT, and this next draft is going to be a deep draft. As I have written on this blog countless times, I thought the last draft was the time to build our lines. We didn’t. Maybe this one will be.
On another note, while I like Dmac, the one thing that I wrote last year before the draft was how much I liked Dmacs knowledge of running an offense. While I wanted linemen, That, right there, was reason to take him in my mind. Dmac was the one who made the offensive call on the misdirection pitch, for the first TD. Nice call Dmac!!!!
November 24th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
So?
November 24th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Good Monday Nite game BTW
November 24th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Oakglenn’s Revenge,
I think the Raiders would have picked up two more wins had C.J played since day 1. I think opposing QBs knew that they had the ultimate checkdown on D.Hall’s man.
Rob Ryan should have recognized this earlier in the season. His defenses actually look pretty good now (save the last drive against Miami).
I hope Al Davis learned his lesson with D. Hall. And in the future he needs to confer with his coaches before getting these players.
C. Johnson is a player. Didn’t he have a pick against San Diego earlier this year too?
November 24th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Nice Call Dmac. And Nice of Coach to listen. It gives the players some ownership of the enterprise. Which they need, if you want them to care about outcomes.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
whats up brothers…
November 24th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
# K-Rock Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
K-rock
And a DT, a RE a REAL MLB a FS..
………
No team has dominant players at every position.
A serviceable DT will be much easier to find than a quality T or G.
Look for Oakland to draft a FS. You know Al will be all over this.
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true, but FS is the least important thing on D, a real MLB is paramount, draft of FA, but we need a real starting MLB.. #2 a DT #3 a DE.. but FS is the least of our problems, especially with Branch getting ready for next year!
November 24th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
What’s happening Nation? I have a question for everyone…
Has anyone else noticed BSPN has completely ignored the Raider’s/Bronco’s game and it’s highlights?
They mentioned it very briefly yesterday, maybe 30 seconds with just stats and zero highlights. Only one person commented on the game, former Bronco Tom Jackson, and all he did was talk about how the Bronco’s need to improve.
Not one single word about the win.
I thought we would at least get the trademark RRRRRRRRRRaaaaaaaiiiidddeeerrrrssss from Boomer!
BSPN can go to hell. There is a reason they are called BSPN, they just keep reminding me why.
Good to get a W, feels good to see these young kids coming together. They deserve it, especially all of those BS calls yesterday.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
The loser is 66 with no job. Troll away. lol
November 24th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Good to get a W, feels good to see these young kids coming together. They deserve it, especially WITH all of those BS calls yesterday.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Nice Call Dmac. And Nice of Coach to listen. It gives the players some ownership of the enterprise. Which they need, if you want them to care about outcomes.
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Excellent points. There is an expression in life that you should listen to the people on the front lines. They have the most accurate information. Nice point on giving them ownership. If that was Lame Kiffin, Kiffin would have claimed it was his call.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
yo STR..
November 24th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Good to get a W, feels good to see these young kids coming together. They deserve it, especially WITH all of those BS calls yesterday.
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waht really had me in the red, was that denver never got a delay of game, i stopped counting, but at least 6 times was the playclock on zero
November 24th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
RaiderDogg, they tried their hardest to give it away. But we finally just took it.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Actually S&B Chris Johnson did pick Rivers in the first San Diego game. Got a nice return out of it too.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Dogg, what is up????
November 24th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
LMN
Their WR’s were false starting all over the place as well. I counted at least 3 times.
Those roughing calls were what I was really thinking of when I made that statement, especially the 2 on Howard. Complete BS!
November 24th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Chris Johnson and DMAC have given their respective sides of the ball an entirely new look.
JLH is a playmaker….mistake proned…but a playmaker and difference maker.
Kwame Harris didn’t screw up…imagine what it will be like when we get a difference maker at tackle.
This team has been close in several games this year. This will be a tough team to deal with for the remainder of the season. And a fun one to watch too
November 24th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Isn’t Warren Sapp in the finals of Dancing With The Stars Tonight?
November 24th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Dogg..
totally agree, nice to see it didn’t matter =)
November 24th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
do any of you know what time it is in Miami?
November 24th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
JaMarcus Russell won’t get many Roughing The Passer calls. But that comes with the territory.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Message to Al Davis…
If the Raiders can play tough for the remainder of the year, then Tom Cable should be given the job.
Need to get some continuity on the coaching staff. If the Raiders beat K.C and Houston and play the rest close, announce Cable as head coach before the season is out.
Also, if, and a bigger if, but if the defense keeps playing well the remainder of the year, like they have played since the dismissal of D. Hall, then consider bringing Ryan back too…
Wow, did I just say that…
Man, D. Hall was really THAT bad!
November 24th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Dogg..
he haven’t been joking, he has been worse than any troll ever frequented this blog
November 24th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
*hasn’t
November 24th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
what time zone is miami in? eastern or central?
November 24th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
The opposition picked up a lot of 3rd downs underneath Hall.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
hmm I assume its a national secret then =)
November 24th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
It’s the real Oakglenn. If you haven’t found that Mule show you were looking for, I have it on my 122 cab.
It’s the trolls dogg some things never change. + some people here have turned on me because they can’t tell the difference between me posting and the trolls posting as me. Whatever.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
hahahah, good one =)
maybe its because you’ve been trolling that we can’t tell who the real OG is =)
November 24th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
S&B, one thing that Cable really wanted to do was get a bona fide kick returner. One of the great kiffin things was NOT to put too much on rookies. That’s why Kiff had JLH return punts, kickoffs, and be a WR. Higgins obviously could not handle it. Soooooooooooo, now it’s just punts, and let’s see if he can work into the offense. Taking Kickoffs away from him has REALLY helped him out.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
so Miami is EST? and its 2300? is that correct?
November 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
hahahah, good one =)
maybe its because you’ve been trolling that we can’t tell who the real OG is =)
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See, that’s what I am saying. All I have done is come here to talk Raiders and some complete utter piece of sh** that adds nothing to the blog starts talking. What have you ever done Napkin?? You don’t even know what time it is.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
LMN
Good call, they found a way to rise above the BS calls.
I have always known OG to be a straight up guy, sorry to hear he has been trolling. Probably a by product of his feud with MR.
Personally I try to accept people for who they are, warts and all. We all make mistakes, but in the end we are all just fans of the Raiders. I think of it like a family. There are some people in my family that really piss me off and question their behavior. But in the end we are still family.
OG has never done me wrong, in fact he has been a pretty good dude to me. I apologize for him if he offended you in any way. I know that he is passionate about the Raiders.
I do know, for a fact, that he bleeds Silver and Black. Now if was a 9er or Charger troll, of course it would be different.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
okay I give those an hour, then I go to bed, when I go to work tomorrw i will tell my boss I don’t think we should hire a local firm.. I think we let the asians do the job.. they made the container cranes in SD, so why not..
Man i’m getting pissed.. I bet they are watching the game.. fools
November 24th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
LMN,
Miami is EST. Its 2303 right now
November 24th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
No worries OG, I know you’re a good dude.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Dogg..
totally agree, it just went over board the last month, it got really ridiculously.. OG’s feud with MR is pathetic in my eyes.. sadly i was against MR the first year and half, but this season I realized he was right.. and when he was foolish it was somebody trolling as MR..
you haven’t missed anything lately, its been real harsh in here..
November 24th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
s&b NC..
thanks man, I give them till midnight then..
November 24th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Oakglenn’s Revenge,
JLH was just making boneheaded decisions on the kick returns. I think he can do KR, but with the new addition from the Jets, hopefully JLH focuses more attention on his WR responsibilities.
The reverse was nice yesterday. They need to continue to find ways to get him the ball. The offense for the Raiders will be something special when they get the problems sorted out.
JLH, DMAC and Russell’s arm should mean more and more big plays as they mature.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
KoolKell..
please tell me its your wife that make you watch that!
November 24th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
is Heidi Klum the girl in that Guitar hero commercial ??
November 24th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Oaklglenn’s Revenge,
Forgot, also add in Zach Miller too. The Raiders just need to get their offseason and coaching situation stabalized and then this team can really start ot grow
November 24th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
SB NC..
the sooner we and the players know, who the new coach is the better
November 24th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
So nobody else has noticed that BSPN completely ignored our game from yesterday?
On another note, I haven’t seen the Raiders D blitz that much in a very long time. Thomas Howard is the man, way to bait Cutler into that pick. CJ was holding it down as well. DHall could learn a thing or two from that 6th round draft pick. He wears that old #37 well. That was Cutler’s first game all season without a TD. All in all a very satisfying win.
It’s as if we’ve been hitting on THE hottest woman we have ever known, continually being denied. Then we finally get in her pants, do IT and do IT very well and now we just have to wait until next Sunday to see if she calls.
If it’s any solace, that’s exactly how I landed my wife and I have never looked back.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Who knew Cable had the balls??
November 24th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
“Dogg..
totally agree, it just went over board the last month, it got really ridiculously.. OG’s feud with MR is pathetic in my eyes.. sadly i was against MR the first year and half, but this season I realized he was right.. and when he was foolish it was somebody trolling as MR..
you haven’t missed anything lately, its been real harsh in here..”
LMN
OG will probably cringe when he reads this, but I think MR is a good dude as well.
Yes it is Heidi Klum, Seal’s woman.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Dogg..
What?? did she deny you.. and What?
meybe its just too late for me, but I didn’t get that last paragraph at all =)
November 24th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
RaiderDogg,
Blitzing becomes more effective when the opposing QB doesn’t have an AUTOMATIC checkdown. C. Johnson is a huge upgrade to D. Hall and has changed the way this defense can play.
Kind of like that direct tv “Upgrade” commercial. We’ve upgraded and the upgrade was big time.
Too bad it took 8 weeks to realize this. Had C.J been our Corner since the beginning I think we have two more wins
November 24th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
OG will probably cringe when he reads this, but I think MR is a good dude as well.
Yes it is Heidi Klum, Seal’s woman
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Klum is SOOO hot, and Seal is so lucky.. well she has a child with flavio briatore, an 60 year old italian player/playboy..
but hell, I could easily live with that =) flavio is cool, I love Formula one..
yeah, well he has been on my tail a lot lately (trolling) problem is he is easy to detect =)
if they both just let it go, it would be so much easy, its very much binary, either you are with the one or the other, and then one of them troll agains you.. I used to like OG alot, but the last couple of month has changed that..
LOL, “why cant we all just get alooooong??”
November 24th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
LMN
My wife is SUPER HOT, tight little bod, very nice up top
with long, flowing blonde hair. It took me a while to get her to go out with me, but when she finally did she fell in love with yours truly. I am a very lucky man.
I was just comparing that feeling to the Raiders finally getting a convincing W yesterday. Now we just need to wait and see if Lady Victory calls back next Sunday against KC.
Long story short, it was a bad analogy.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
GO Cal!!!!
nnamdi asomugha and desean jackson came out of cal:)
marshawn lynch!!
robert jordan is a wide receiver was starting over desean jackson.. he didnt get drafted, i think we should sign him to our practice squad
the homie jahvid best looks like a good elusive back.. we should pick him up if hes avaliable in 6th round or 7th round
but yeah.. why didnt nnamdi get a game ball? he should always get a ball, imo..
any1 kno a way i can contact nnamdi yet?!
November 24th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
S&B
From what I understand, Kiffin wasn’t too high on CJ, hence his limited playing time. I could be wrong.
LMN
I agree with you and Rodney King.
OG
I still don’t have that Mule show from ‘98 at Red Rocks btw. I am blown away that you still have it. When you say Cab 122 are you referring to a Honda Ridgeline? Forgive my ignorance on that one. One of these days bro.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
dogg..
when she finally meat the Dogg, she was hooked, I hear ya, good for you, my friend..
November 24th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Dogg..
nice you got that one =) yeah he got treated like dirt..
November 24th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Ok, RaiderMutt, we’ve had enough of you for the night.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
LMN
I am blessed with a beautiful family. I couldn’t ask for anything more. I can only wish the same for others, so that everyone can know how good life can truly be. Sorry if that sounds cheesy, but it’s true.
Now if the Raiders could just string some more W’s together I would be bouncing off the walls.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Fake MR
That just makes me want to post more. Thanks for the inspiration.
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bwahahahha, great response =)
November 24th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
AO Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
any1 kno a way i can contact nnamdi yet?!
Sure. He lives in the city of Alameda. I won’t give you his address, but Why don’t you just call or write him C/O the Raiders. He’ll get it.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
dogg..
you are friends with RaiderDell, right?
November 24th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Russell is 25 for 33 (75.8 percent) for 308 yards and a touchdown and no interceptions in his last two games since sitting out the Carolina loss with a knee injury.
When Russell gets time to throw he can do it. Checking down, reading defenses all that stuff. Did anyone notice the Raiders throw a couple of screens to DMAC.
Tell the offensive line to keep it up for the rest of the year
November 24th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Dogg, I still DO have that Mule show from Red Rocks. I have an old Hammond B-3, and the 122 is the Leslie cabinet. If you know what any of that means.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
LMN
I would consider Dell a friend through here, like OG. Dell is a great guy, killer taste in music too. I wouldn’t be suprised if he was at one of the Gov’t Mule concerts that I attended in SF this weekend. Why do you ask?
S&B
Nice post
November 24th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Mmmmmm Hammond.. great sound =)
November 24th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
OG
I learn something new almost everyday (I have a 2 year old son). I also learned that you play an organ/keyboards through a nice amp and set of speakers. You still play?
November 24th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Dogg..
okay, I somehow thought you were colleagues..
I would have asked you if you knew what he was doing =)
but now I see you know that as well as i do =)
November 24th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Oakglenn, how the hell you know what town he lives in? lol!
what you mean C/O the raiders?
November 24th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
OG
What year by the way? Didn’t they stop making those in the 70’s?
November 24th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Oh, sure, just did a big gig in front of a big crowd here just a few days ago. Went over well. I actually don’t really talk about myself here.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
LMN
Knowing Dell, he’s probably crunching numbers or listening to the Blues. Hopefully sipping a tasty beverage as well.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
OG
Nothing wrong with tooting your own horn once in a while. I was just bragging about my wife a minute ago.
Did you make it to the Fillmore last weekend?
November 24th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
It think it’s like a 65. I got it from a guy who bought it from Mike Finnegan the keyboard player in Steve Stills band. I think this is the old B-3 that is on the first few CSNY and Stills records. Imagine how many numbers Jimi Hendrix has rolled on this thing!!
November 24th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
# AO Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Oakglenn, how the hell you know what town he lives in? lol!
what you mean C/O the raiders?
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you don’t know what C/o means?? it means “care of”..
it means it you send it to Raiders HQ (head quarters) they will pass it on to Nnamdi..
November 24th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
MR Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Who cares about your retread wife. You wasn’t the first one in it and won’t be the last, my friend. lol
RaiderDogg, don’t take that personal. MR, is so thru on this blog. I’m sure you was your wife’s first and will be her last. I deal with that loser daily.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
All my friends did but I didn’t unfortunately. I’ve seen that Mule band a few times. I really like Warren. Good guy. Did I tell you I have the soundboard from Warrens Wedding??? He gets the Radiators to play his wedding and then some of the Mule guys come on and Jam. Hilarious really.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
OG
If thats for real, it could be the Hammond from the recording of Voodoo Chile with Steve Winwood on keys. Stills was in the studio that night as well. Jimi and Steven were tight.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Raiderdog,
I noticed how BSPN has completely ignored the dominant Raider thrashing of the ponies. No highlights from the egomaniac Berman and not a peep from the unprofessional homer Jackson. The highlights of the game were done by some other BSPN clowns.
Jackson loves to giggle like a little girl when the ponies beat us…but then can’t take it when we thrash his team. I wonder where the professionalism and ojectivity is from those clowns at BSPN?? Pretty obvious there was some kinda conspiracy to not talk about the game too much.
BSPN is a joke!
November 24th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
I think that you did mention the wedding thing. Thats a collectors item for sure.
Back Door Slam, the band that opened for Mule, was smoking! A killer power trio from England in the vein of Jimi and Cream. The lead guitarist is amazing and he is only 20 years old. I highly recommend them.
As far as Warren goes, I have been going to his shows since the Warren Haynes Band days. I saw him open for Blues Traveler on New Years Eve in ‘93 at the Roseland in NYC. I’ve seen Mule over 30 times, I used to tour a little in my younger days.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Darknight01
Thank you!
November 24th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
You are kidding!!! I didn’t know that! This is no doubt a road unit. What happened was Stills was living in Boulder, CO in the mid seventies and divorced his wife. Stills then divorced his wife, and threw this into storage for a couple of years. He called Finnegan and asked him if he wanted it, Finnegan told him hell yeah. But then he left it in storage and never came and got it. I was living in Boulder at the time and it came to me. I’ve had it for some time. Killer keyboard. Stills probably wants it back.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Al, Do the right thing by Nnamdi
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Holy **** dude! If you mean that it’ll probably be letting go somewhere else!~
November 24th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Oakglenn’s Revenge Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
MR Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Who cares about your retread wife. You wasn’t the first one in it and won’t be the last, my friend. lol
RaiderDogg, don’t take that personal. MR, is so thru on this blog. I’m sure you was your wife’s first and will be her last. I deal with that loser daily
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Oakglenn, RaiderDogg didnt by your lame attempt trolling as me.
Oakglenn, RaiderMutt is ashamed to respond to your post trolling as me
November 24th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
All musicians are just frustrated athletes. And vice versa.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Thank you for trolling as me. Go for it. You can have the name.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
good nite all.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
OG
I don’t care what the fake MR says. I wasn’t her first, but, I will be her last. This is why I’m barely here now. It’s a playground here for trolls.
OG, it was nice talking to you. I’ll hollar.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
AO, I could give you his address but boy would he be pissed. Jamarcus lives on Skyline in Oakland. Nnamdi lives in the City of Alameda. If you want to write them a note, I am sure they would love to hear from you. Just be nice!!
November 24th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
OG
it was a long shot with the Jimi thing. True story though.
Good to hear that you play, explains your familiarity with good music.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
wouldnt it be sooo sweet if we could win out the rest of the season and take the division title with an 8-8 record.
of course the donkeys and dolts to lose as well…
if we can play the rest of the games like yesterday anything is possible….any given sunday.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
No. LMN……..I watch the girls.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
I have to say, I feel better watching Drew Brees put up 50+ points on the best pass D in the NFL. People here were going to run Ryan out on a rail. Looks like no one has stopped Brees. San Diego were geniuses for letting him go!!
November 24th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
S&B – Nation Collective Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
“Tell the offensive line to keep it up for the rest of the year”
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Unfortunately the Broncos patch work defense consisting of FB / LB’s and terrible interior play and none of its starting LBs is a match up Oakland SHOULD win.
Won’t be as easy in the weeks to come, but KC is pretty bad too. Might see some more fireworks since they are a terrible team too.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
New Orleans is 5-5 so somebody has stopped Brees just know it wasn’t Rob Ryan!
Glad you feel better now..
# MR’s Troll Patrol Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
I have to say, I feel better watching Drew Brees put up 50+ points on the best pass D in the NFL. People here were going to run Ryan out on a rail. Looks like no one has stopped Brees. San Diego were geniuses for letting him go!!
November 24th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
You believe in me don’t you missed a brain???
November 24th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
OakGlenn, educate yourself so you stop looking so damn stupid.
“It was two months after the end of football season and Deion Sanders was still in pain. The Dallas Cowboys’ All-Pro cornerback had limped through most of the 1998 campaign, his brilliant ability hampered by an injury that limited his mobility. In April, Sanders elected to undergo surgery to address the problem and he’ll most likely return to action this fall. But it’s not a knee ligament or herniated disc that has plagued Sanders — it’s his left big toe, which was afflicted by a condition familiarly known as turf toe”
Link
http://espn.go.com/trainingroom/s/1999/0901/13907.html
November 24th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Roger, way to go! It’s about time that you put your foot down. You just need to be more assertive. Don’t listen to the guys that will tell you how often they get it. Those are always the guys that wouldn’t know what to do with it if it slapped them in the face.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
BlackHoleBishop, thank you. I guess I do kind of worry too much of what people think of me and let them take advantage of me. It’s nice of you to even respond to me. I guess I’m one of those guys that wants to fit in but always gets overlooked.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Raiders make the playoffs!!
November 24th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Post 268, get real!
November 24th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
It’s been a while since I’ve been on this blog, but after such a good win it was necessary to visit and read some of the comments.
I went to Events Sport Bar in Riverside to watch the game, have a few cold beers and a burger and fries, expecting all the time to hear the negative-slamming from the donkey fans. It was great to slam them instead and I enjoyed the win.
I expect to do the same against KC and two wins in a row will be a feeling that we have not experienced for sometime.
Go Raiders…3 wins and the 4th coming up.
November 24th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
missed a brain never debated at all. He just came in here, embarassed himself, got his ass kicked and left with his tail between his legs.
For the rest of you, Being red shirted means you are not playing even tho you can. I told you he would not be playing. Now, if he clearly broke his leg or tore up his knee, that would not be red shirting. But when Dmac gets an injury he never had before, that players play with, that then migrates to the other foot, even tho he is not playing or practicing, he is being red shirted. But missed a brain once again, doesn’t get it. But then again, who expected him to?? BTW, Mike Bush has been red shirted for most of the year as well. Now, late in the season, we can get these guys some work. The red shirt has been lifted.
November 24th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
S&B – Nation Collective Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Russell is 25 for 33 (75.8 percent) for 308 yards and a touchdown and no interceptions in his last two games ——————————————————————————————————-
Yes but the big question is how many of those passes were to the WRs ?
Only 7 … those 2 game numbers are usually a 1 game performance for the top QBs.
November 24th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I’m out of here for the night. My parting comment is that there seems to be a lot of hate and anger around here, and I guess that’s to be expected with all the losses, coaching changes, senile owner and Rob Ryan still around. One good win isn’t going to change anything and hopefully the problems mentioned are corrected in the near future.
Good nite.
November 24th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
lol you guys are funny..
and srry for not knowing the acyronoms.. i cnt even spell;/
wth
November 24th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Yesterday was wonderful and well-earned by the Raider fans who remain, but remember what Tom Flores once said: “Once is an accident. Twice [in a row] is a trend. Three times is a problem [for the rest of the league].” At least we can see that with help at OT, DT, and WR, we might not be as far off as it has seemed, as this season has slipped from mediocre, to bad, to simply ridiculous. At least, with some sort of showing for the rest of the season, Oakland may not be seen as a career “Bermuda Triangle” by talented free-agents and potential draft choices. So, enjoy…….
November 24th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
# vegas raider Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Decent story for you guys:
So in 2002, the year we went to the bowl, the Raiders were 4-4, started 4-0 then lost 4 straight, and going to Mile High on Monday night. Season on the line, back when we had expectations going into the year, and needed to pull out a win. I decided to splurge for a keg, in college it was quite the splurge, and decided to get some good beer and went with the Killians Irish Red. Of course we won, Rod Woodson 90+ int return and Gannon was something like 35-39 or something ridiculous. So Sat. night looking for some beer to go to a buddies to watch the game and the whole story hit me as I was looking at the Killian’s in the store. Got two twelve-packs and told everyone the story that the keg of Killians turned around the season in 2002 and will do the same this year. When was the last time we played as well as we did yesterday? It was because of the Killians.
…….
It’s official. Everyone here is on crack.
November 25th, 2008 at 12:47 am
OK, Oakglenn, whatever you say. Go ahead band break down yesterday’s game for us.
November 25th, 2008 at 12:54 am
Can I join?
November 25th, 2008 at 1:05 am
Been a long time since we beat anyone by 20 pts. Last time was Buffalo in 2004 (38-17). Our record in blowouts (20+ point margins) since 2002 is 2-18, counting yesterday. We were 6-1 in such games in 2002, the lone loss being the last game. Like to see us do KC the same way next week. Crazy, man.
I just think close games have a lot to do with luck, but performance in lopsided games is a measure of real power.
November 25th, 2008 at 1:30 am
-It’s good to have Alston back whether he wears his helmet or not. He has been exceptional on special teams and they seemed to suffer when he was injured.
-Doesn’t really seem like Kiffin was right about Seabass’s 76 yard kick. Sure he kicked it 85 yards in this game but kicking into the end zone is a lot easier than kicking it that distance AND getting it through the uprights.
-Those personal fouls to Howard and Warren were ridiculous. Cable’s reaction is interesting: “not to worry about the negatives”. Al and Maddens’s main message to the defense was to go after them and go after them hard. That’s Raider tradition. If you’re a defensive player and you’re going to get a personal foul just for breathing in their face, you might as well get it for hitting them hard.
-Warren also seemed really pleased to be beating his old team. He’s played well for us.
-Amy Trask told a Raider fan being led off in handcuffs to be polite to the Bronco fans?!!!!!!!!
That tells us all we need to know about what’s wrong with the Raiders.
-Tom Cable should have gotten a game ball because he had them really ready and called a great game. Also, there are great individual players but the team really seems to be together.
November 25th, 2008 at 1:52 am
-Defensive plan was great and Rob Ryan deserves credit for it. The defense has played well lately.
November 25th, 2008 at 1:54 am
Englandraider, would you be mine?
November 25th, 2008 at 1:56 am
-I must admit that was for Hall-it’s the gambler in me-but Chris Johnson was terrific in this game and last week. He makes quite a difference to the secondary. Aso-who is still king-might even get some balls thrown his way when coaches watch the film of this game. As someone above said, Chris Johnson was a guy that Al wanted. Of course, he also wanted Hall.
November 25th, 2008 at 2:09 am
I’m thinking me, England Raider, MR, and Oakglenn. FOURSOME! And I aint talkin’ golf…
November 25th, 2008 at 2:09 am
Ooh god damn. Whenever you’re ready, Dogg.
November 25th, 2008 at 2:11 am
I just want to lick culo, baby. All night.
November 25th, 2008 at 2:11 am
Well then let’s lick, dogg.
November 25th, 2008 at 2:11 am
I want in! Ruff Ruff!
November 25th, 2008 at 2:37 am
Honestly, I’m tired now. I hope you arent leading me on. I’ll catch up with you tomorrow night about this same time. Hugs and kisses to you.
November 25th, 2008 at 4:02 am
Amy Trask is all class. No one seems to give props for that, although Al does ocassionally get accolades for his work with minorities and ex players. Either Peter King or some other national writer called him out for the tribute he gave to Upshaw earlier this year.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:14 am
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November 25th, 2008 at 6:16 am
Dakota:
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November 25th, 2008 at 6:49 am
come on 76ers!
how do you beat the Clippers & Warriors, then lose to the stinking Bobcats? get it together!
November 25th, 2008 at 6:51 am
Is this a Raider’s blog or a date site? Too funny!!! Anyways…
I believe that maybe the time has come; not saying they will turn the corner, but as all fans wish, this years of wtf has to end and I see a good start. Whether or not Cable will bring the team down to Earth and get a win this Sunday against KC (which we should because Denver’s team as a whole is better than KC) would make me start to believe in the Cable guy and what he is trying to do. Sundays game brought back memories of 2002, although distant memories, but games like that needs to come back with or without Big Al in his box…
November 25th, 2008 at 6:54 am
RaiderTW..
I read you post in the last thread, I don’t believe you read the entire post of mine, because tehn you wouldn’t write that such a reply..
November 25th, 2008 at 7:04 am
LMN, just making a point of my own. The Pres couldn’t have ruined this country more than if he tried!
November 25th, 2008 at 7:11 am
as far as injuries go, please sit Grove, Brown and Huff for another week. Wade, Alston and Baker played well in their place. Keep Burgess in as a situational pass rusher only again. That worked well. He’s rusty and we don’t want him to land on IR. He might add a little spark on 3rd downs. Lastly, place Javon Walker on IR and either bring Holland up from the practice squad or resign John Madsen again.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:20 am
Hey RaiderRockstar,
You’re right…what the heck is Walker still doing on the active roster? Only Al knows, I guess…
November 25th, 2008 at 7:21 am
Hey if we can beat K.C. then we can at least be 4-8, would 5-8 be too much to ask?
November 25th, 2008 at 7:24 am
Rockstar you said it. Let the people playing well- play.
Yeah– no game ball for Nmamdi…. All he did was take away half the field all day — that’s a Cutler quote
November 25th, 2008 at 7:40 am
yep,I stated b4 Wade was our best F/A pick-up.Tampa bay has had a solid ground game and Wade was the heart of it.Grove sucks get rid off him
November 25th, 2008 at 7:41 am
Nnamdi should have got a game ball, but he may have been overlooked, because he plays that well every week – win or lose.
Also, why does Russell only throw to one WR? Is that what Knapp & Cable are telling him to do? Is it too big a task for him to scan the entire field? Schilens got all the catches, Walker, Curry, now Lelie. No love for Higgins or Watkins? The only play Higgins made was that long one against Buffalo. I thought they might try and get him more involved after that. guess not …
November 25th, 2008 at 7:45 am
31-10! haaaahahahahaha
November 25th, 2008 at 7:51 am
Morning NATION
Ok Im over the Greatness that was sundays game.. Still If we beat the Chefs and the chokers then what? Do we consider giving cable an extension? Maybe the OC job any thoughts??
November 25th, 2008 at 7:55 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
# Unknown Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
LMN, I will always blast anyone who blames only Al for the team’s problems!!
That’s not fair for only 1 person to be blamed for everything that goes wrong, but, gets no credit for things going right. Do you agree??
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no i don’t thats the price of sitting on the top..
many of you guys blames bush as well, and he didn’t do all this crap you are going through alone, but he is the boss, he is the main man, and i CANT find any reason to defend him, I’m a fan because of what he did from the 60’s to the mid 80’s since then he made many, too many dubious things.. He has lost it.. period. I respect your opinion, but I can and will never agree.. Al is the problem, problem is Bush could max sit on top for 8 years, we are stuck with our !diot..
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# La Milicia Negra Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Unknown..
only the raiders does ONE man have so much power, the more power a man has, the more blame does he deserve when he screws up.. and Al just keep on screwing up.. he is the champ in that..
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# Unknown Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
LMN, you are a 100% right about Bush!!! There has always been major problems in this Country for certain Races or Ethnicities (Hope I spelled it correctly=)! I’ve always said it wasn’t all his fault for years, he only exascerbated the situation. Business as usual, you know!!
As for as Al goes, I disagree with you, but, as long as their’s no name calling, I can chat with anyone, even you =)!!
Got to eat now!! I’ll be right back
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# La Milicia Negra Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
# Blackholepriest Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
That idiot biult the team you watched yesterday and the drafted the QB that will lead this team to a SB. Not bad for an old idiot.
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my point is, Bush must have done something right donw the way as well.. but the overall mess is still blamed on him.. same with Al, if you shoot birds with canons, you must hit right a long the way.. Al does not have any credit for last nights win.. it was Cable for firing up under the players, but most of the credit goes to the team.. for the first time it looked like the played for their new coach..
But keep telling you self that Al is the reason to all good and the coaches are just for show..
November 25th, 2008 at 7:56 am
RaiderTW..
as you can see i didn’t defend bush.. you only commented on one sentence..
November 25th, 2008 at 7:58 am
408, i don’t think Cable will be the OC or even OL coach of the Raiders next season. It’s Head Coach or OL coach elsewhere. His contract is up, so why settle for less? The new HC, whoever it may be (even Cable) will get to have a say in the staff they want here. Even Kiff recruited all the coaches on offense to come here. The defense is the same one Norv Turner brought in. Time for that to change. It’s about time!
November 25th, 2008 at 8:03 am
408,
Cable as OC? I guess if he lights it up for the rest of the year. Highly unlikely though.
IMO Cable will win one, maybe two more game this season and then not be offered the HC position.
I think Al needed to see Cable take this team to 7-9 or 8-8 before he would even consider Cable. Hell, Al didn’t even know Cable’s background when he hired him, it was clearly just a stop-gap measure for the rest of 2008 and Cable would need to blow Al away to retain the job. 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10 just isn’t going to get the job done for Cable IMO. A 3-9, 4-8 or 5-7 record by Cable isn’t good enough for Al. If he had gone 7-5 or 6-6, then maybe.
No way we win 4 or 5 of our last 5 games.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:04 am
—”Raiders coach Tom Cable said Michael Bush “has really taken” to playing fullback. Bush still sounds less than enthused about his new position, reiterating just yesterday that he is a running back, not a fullback. But with Justin Fargas and Darren McFadden ahead of him on th depth chart, Bush is smart to do whatever gets him on the field.”—
November 25th, 2008 at 8:05 am
why do the guys wearing “I heart Kiffin” t-shirts always compare George W. Bush with Al Davis? and when John McCain was running against Obama he was also compared with Al Davis. Are the guys with “Kiffin rocks my world” tattoos all democrats or just idiots? Al Davis doesn’t have any similarities to any of these guys. It’s like anybody you don’t like suddenly becomes Davis. It’s retarded and I wish it would stop. Don’t even compare Davis with Kiffin. Compare him with other owners or a commissioner. At least then it makes sense looking at his background.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:06 am
RRS
Yeah But If Cable can get these guys motivated down the stretch then what? Let’s say (for arguments sake) the raiders win out! I’m all for dumping RR @ the same time I would love some continuity we can not keep changing our scheme every year and expect to have success…. :/
November 25th, 2008 at 8:06 am
i just want to say great job by the raiders this past sunday.i saw a complete game played today by the raiders.hopefully this will be a win this team can build on throughout the rest of the season.i have been quite criticle of j russ all yr, but this past sunday he actually showed me something ,he was poised and calm in the pocket he showed leadership and played like a seasoned vet. GREAT JOB JaMarcus Russell! now lets goout there and beat KC like we no we can.GO RAIDERS!!!
November 25th, 2008 at 8:09 am
408..
knapp and RoRy will be on the plane before the players gets to the lockerroom after the last game..
November 25th, 2008 at 8:11 am
Dakota
I just think if we can play like we did on sunday for the rest of the year Cable will prove his worth as a motivator @ least..
November 25th, 2008 at 8:13 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 8:05 am
why do the guys wearing “I heart Kiffin” t-shirts always compare George W. Bush with Al Davis?
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you don’t know why? i think its obvious.. but let me explain..
only Al has that much power of his franchise, no other GM or Owner has his hands on decisions.. only one man in hte US has that kind of one-sidedness.. its your president.. not just bush, but your president.. that said, Bush has been a Fu©k-up just as much as Al has.. in fact the downfall started nearly at the same time..
I know we went to the SB, but the foundation of this downfall was made way before that season..
November 25th, 2008 at 8:14 am
LMN
I hope your right!
Flippin It guy was messing with my computer… all my favorites are gone… I cant get @ my playlist WTF..
November 25th, 2008 at 8:15 am
Raidermaniac,
you and many others here have been critical of JRuss. Amazing what happens when you’re not pressured by defensive players as soon as you take the snap. JaMarcus will resemble what you saw on last Sunday EVERY Sunday if he isn’t being snowed under by D linemen and blitzers 1/8 of a second after he drops back.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:16 am
Man,
I can’t imagine what would happen if we went out and beat KC and SD in the next two weeks:
Pandemonium!!!! People on this blog would be calling Cable the next Vince Lombardi and stating that we were going to make a playoff push and go to the SB, and that there is going to be a Raider dynasty.
Al Davis would be handing out $50 million dollar contracts to Chris Johnson, Lelie, Wade and Sam Williams.
Rob Ryan would declare himself the Defensive Head Coach/Managing General Partner.
The refs would hold meeting on how to stop us.
Everyone would be mad at me for saying “Cool your Jets, it was only KC and SD.”
Good times.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:20 am
408,
Even if the Raiders win the remaining 5 games I think Ryan is done. Continuity has been with the defense. Ryan and his assistants have been here 5 years and for 5 years we haven’t been able to stop the run. Plus we don’t blitz or pressure the QB much. He puts players out of positions and wastes talent. Brayton played 4 different positions in 4 years. Huff was a SS under Ryan. Stu was a starting FS under Ryan. Ryan blamed himself when Hall played like crap – said Hall was a pro bowl player just weeks before Davis cut him. Ryan couldn’t get him to play man like Nnamdi. Ryan has Morrison at MLB. Had Sapp at DE. Sam Williams & Grant Irons at OLB? Also said Tommy Kelly could be the best 3 technique DT in football before Davis gave him that monster contract. This guy is clearly a dunce.
“I would love some continuity we can not keep changing our scheme every year and expect to have success”
I agree with that statement you made and I think that applied to the Head Coach and the offensive coaching staff. try giving them 5 years to get it together. I’m guessing even Art Shell would make more strides than Rob Ryan did in that amount of time.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:21 am
Dakota,
sarcasm about Tom Cable et alii is fine, but remember, the Cable Guy wants to be in Oaktown! He bleeds Silver and Black. It is nice to see.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:26 am
RRS
Hell yeah I think Ryan’s time is up.. I hate that guy and his prevent Defense… But Big Al is the only 1 who matters when it comes to these decisions.. All we can do is hope 4 the best…
November 25th, 2008 at 8:27 am
408,
Kool-Aid stocks throughout the world will dwindle from excessive consumption if the boys win a couple of more games.
Yes!
November 25th, 2008 at 8:31 am
nice one 408. i forgot about the prevent defense in the 4th quarter. haha
somebody will pick us this clown and I hope it’s the Jets. Favre retires after the season and the Jets are a 4-12 team again with Clemens at QB and Ryan coaching the D. LOL
November 25th, 2008 at 8:31 am
If Al keeps Rob Ryan and Tom Cable we will be in for another 2-3 losing seasons.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:33 am
M
Hells yeah.. I enjoy a good Kool-Aid buzz I just wish I really had a reason to believe.. We all had such high hopes coming into the season.. Well aside from the gloom and doom guys… but what do I know I think were going to the SB every year…
November 25th, 2008 at 8:34 am
Yeeeeehoooooo!!!!!!!
November 25th, 2008 at 8:34 am
Yabba dabba doooo!!!!!
November 25th, 2008 at 8:37 am
# Dakota Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 8:31 am
If Al keeps Rob Ryan and Tom Cable we will be in for another 2-3 losing seasons.
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No. If we get a new HC, he will want his assistants, his players, his systems, his draft choices, AND THAT, will set us back another 2-3 years. Taking a guy who has the team playing well, who probably just got the break thru he needs, will give us some continuity here. Something we really need around this place.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:37 am
Dakota,
If Davis locks Ryan up for another 5 years then all the people who said “we won’t make the playoffs until Davis kicks the bucket” were probably right. Although I certainly don’t wish that on him or anyone.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Fumble,
I guess we shall see. Was it a break through? The jury is still out, and beating KC next week will not confirm it….but, if we beat KC and SD in the next two weeks I might even start to believe. Cautiously…
November 25th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Bring on the Chefs! And that crybaby rivers too… Oh man Im getting too excited about 1 win over a weak donkey team…But seriously I hate the donkeys.. I’ve been to 5 Raider donkey games in Oakland and we havent won 1 of them ishts.. I hate the donkeys with a passion… I know some of the Older Raider fans feel the same way about the chefs but 4 me it isnt even close…
November 25th, 2008 at 8:56 am
post 338 M Never fear I have “my people” working nite&day to ensure the KOOL-AIDE stock-pile NEVER gets depleted =)
November 25th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Sup 4eva?
I know as soon as I go into the lab we’ll get to 408 without me…
November 25th, 2008 at 9:00 am
If possible, I would love to see a transcript of the speech Brown gave on the rivalry.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:05 am
Certainly pleasant to visit this site this week. All of the “doom and gloom”-ers can get a rest from their negativity for a day or two.
Yes, I know that it is easier to believe that all will turn out poorly, makes disappointment feel better I suppose. I find it easier to believe the Raiders will do well in spite of everything. As I have no hope for the human race, gotta have hope in something.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:10 am
M..
well what is worse? one win over denver and people was talking playoffs.. or the doom and glum patrol?
the doomers have a touch with reality, the others dont.. I will always follow the once who base their thoughts on reality and not the dreamers..
I love this win, no doubt about that, but it doesn’t change the overall picture.. we are still fu©ked.. we will win over KC, we have to, but bucs and texans will humiliate us..
November 25th, 2008 at 9:13 am
Nation, we don’t get a ton of high points in the season, so take the time to vote for two bright spots in the season:
Coach Cable was nominated Coach of Week and Darren McFadden was nominated Rookie of the Week.
http://www.raiders.com/Common/Article.aspx?id=57270
November 25th, 2008 at 9:15 am
cable an an oc ??????
didn’t we just get told that mcfadden drew up the first td on his hand?
is fargas still starting over mcfadden?
can we please get rid of all the experimenting and on the job training with our coaches?
November 25th, 2008 at 9:20 am
# 408RAIDER Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Big Al isnt as big a Fuk up as Bush… IMO thats a lil harsh dude..
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well, I just call it as I see it.. Al has fu©ked up a proud NATION and franchise, bush did the same..
99% of their decisions, made things worse..
November 25th, 2008 at 9:20 am
408RAIDER Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 8:11 am
Dakota
I just think if we can play like we did on sunday for the rest of the year Cable will prove his worth as a motivator @ least..
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I thought Willie Brown was the motivator?
November 25th, 2008 at 9:22 am
Its been six years since a Raiders team led by Rich Gannon crushed the orange crush in Denver. You guys may still try and call Russell a bust until he eventually leads the team to the playoffs, but fact is the Raiders have not had a quarterback play that well in Denver since Gannon. Cable has this team on the right track and they will get beat again, that much is certain. Kiffin forgetting what a rival is was the worst blasphemy he uttered during his whole tenure. Now we have a real Raider fan as a coach that gets emotional win or loose. I have not seen a coach for the Raiders like that since the days of Madden. Even Bugel never got teary eyed when he finnaly won a game over a hated division rival. Cable hating everyone the Raiders are supposed to hate is a breath of fresh air and a great motivational tool if you reflect on the Marty S. and the pre-Cable Shanahan years. Great win to build on.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:22 am
please keep ur caution flags up D … if u won’t say it, I will!
Its only KC and SD, just like it was a depleted last place defense we finally beat.
wins over these sorry azz teams should not give u hope that cable and ryan .. CABLE AND FRICKIN RYAN …. can lead this team to where it needs to be.
C’mon …
November 25th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Sac
good point! you too jhill..
November 25th, 2008 at 9:23 am
the mod is kissing babies and slapping wives or however that saying goes …
kicking dogs and taking names.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Jhill..
long time no see.. good to have ya back
November 25th, 2008 at 9:25 am
this win really got a lot of the good old poster of this blog to return =)
November 25th, 2008 at 9:26 am
I cant believe the mod deletes the things he does then lets all the racial and homo stuff stay up.. Its freaking tarded
November 25th, 2008 at 9:27 am
The Raiders will win out, and win the division!!! The thought that they are going to actually make the playoffs is making me hard.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:28 am
LMN,
Reality is whatever one decides it is. 6,000,000,000 people, 6,000,000,000 realities. Culture defines a common ground for people to share their interpretations of reality.
As for dreams, those and any other mind sets are equally as real to whomever experiences them.
Keeping reality real.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:28 am
I really like Alston. He’s as fast as Howard and he’s pretty aggressive. I do think the Raiders probably need to get a new MLB and move Morrison to the outside, so I’m not really sure where that leaves Alston, but I’d love to see him on the field a lot more. If they decide to leave Morrison at MLB I think they should keep Alston as a starter at OLB.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:30 am
you’ve got to be kidding me B with the Wade hype …
u do realize the line he was playing agains, right?
dj williams was out, right?
who the heck was he powering outta there?
what about the debacles of the past 2 weeks?
your Grove hate is hilarious.
I do agree we need another C though. I’m tired of his injuries.
too funny!
November 25th, 2008 at 9:30 am
during the presidential race he left all the negative mccain comments and deleted all the negative obama comments. that wasn’t obvious!
the dude needs to be fair. delete the racial and homo stuff for sure! the name calling doesn’t make people more informed on Raider football either. feel free to remove that junk
November 25th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Gotta stomp the Chiefs this week.
Come one JaMarcus, keep it rolling, big fella.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Since Hall and Kiffin were purged the Raider defense has started to jell to the dismay of the Ryan haters.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:31 am
408 still enjoying the big WIN.Man-O-Man that was sooo sweet.I thought in only his 2nd start Wade has already brought stability and a little TUDE,watch that fukker against KC.Many points 2 consider,like JLH has wings on his ankles =),and SUPRISE~ Bush is a LEFTY ,but like I said EEES GOOD!!!
November 25th, 2008 at 9:31 am
AD Underoos,
post 324, much the same regards here.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Ryan still sux
November 25th, 2008 at 9:35 am
what’s up lmn …
I still keep my eye on u guys (did u pull it out against D last week in ffb?)
I agree with ur bush analogy, by the way
November 25th, 2008 at 9:36 am
JaMarcus may have had a bit extra in his psyche last Sunday after attending his God Mother’s funeral. Never a bad thing to have something more to strengthen oneself, but having an O-line keep you from being hit helps as well.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:36 am
I like how NFL Network Total access never said one f’in word about the Raiders…
November 25th, 2008 at 9:36 am
I only like to make fun of non raider fans who come in here.. try to keep it civil with the NATION
November 25th, 2008 at 9:37 am
The big difference I see in Russell after Kiffin has been removed is that he is looking for open spaces to put the ball instead of waiting for the receiver to complete his route. Much better anticipation of where the receiver should be and where the defenders are not. Improved head swivel and decision making, he is starting to look at receivers just to throwoff the secondary and looks much more confidant after a short transition to Cables passing philosophy.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Do you realize that if, two weeks ago, we held that lead over Miami (i.e. a stop on 4th & 5) and Roddy White holds onto that TD to beat Denver, we’d be sitting ONE game out of 1st place right now with a game against KC coming up and Denver facing the Jets.
Damn.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:38 am
John Wade is a lot stronger than Grove. Grove excels in the zbs because of his aggressive style and quickness. He’ll hold his own and cuts pretty well, but he never dominates anyone. He simply gets the job job, which makes him average. Wade has more power and the ability to move people, but he’s not as quick as Grove and probably doesn’t cut as well. He wasn’t familiar with the zbs, because the Bucs didn’t run one. Those reasons made Grove the starter, but since Wade has had a little time to get the zbs down, he seems to be getting better. His strength is a huge lift for us and I don’t think he’ll get mauled by Jamal Williams when we play the Chargers, like Grove would. I think he should start as long as he’s playing well. Same with Alston & Lelie.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Al Davis Underoos Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Since Hall and Kiffin were purged the Raider defense has started to jell to the dismay of the Ryan haters.
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Didn’t we get blown out by NO and ATL after Kiffin was fired? Agree about Hall tho. Worst trade ever..
November 25th, 2008 at 9:39 am
raiderrockstar,
You hit on all points about why Rob Ryan time is here is done!
November 25th, 2008 at 9:40 am
post 319 RaiderMight,thankx 4 the link!!! I voted =)
November 25th, 2008 at 9:40 am
NO put the smash on GB last night.. They happen to play a man defense like we do plus they play it better IMO…
November 25th, 2008 at 9:40 am
AFC Playbook had Brian Baldinger and Sterling Sharpe pointing out how Denver was looking so good and had found their run D. BalDinger went on to say he doesn’t like the Raiders and its clear Sharpe’s no fan.
Eat a heapin’ bowl of up yours jag offs.
Can’t blame you too much from what Oakland has shown this year, but there really is something special there like it or not.
Just have to focus the beam for the laser to get destructive.
I hope the Raioders have gotten a taste for victory and realize they can get into the end zone.
They played down and almost apologetically at times this year.
I hope we see no more of that.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:42 am
AFC Playbook had Brian Baldinger and Sterling Sharpe pointing out how Denver was looking so good and had found their run D. BalDinger went on to say he doesn’t like the Raiders and its clear Sharpe’s no fan.
Eat a heapin’ bowl of STFU.
Can’t blame you too much from what Oakland has shown this year, but there really is something special there like it or not.
Just have to focus the beam for the laser to get destructive.
I hope the Raioders have gotten a taste for victory and realize they can get into the end zone.
They played down and almost apologetically at times this year.
I hope we see no more of that.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:42 am
I also love how the idiot Primetime Sanders, didn’t put JLH Punt return in his top 10 highlights.
Did they even show the highlights or do I have to look them up on youn tube? LOL
We all know how BSPN tried to avoid the dominating win all together….what a joke.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Peter King picked GB of course lol.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:44 am
freakin mod we woulda been @ 408 if you didnt have to delete a bunch of comments.. Now I gotta go into the lab ufck!
November 25th, 2008 at 9:44 am
We all send emails to and clown DumbDinger and Sharpe and the NFL Network and send emails to the annoying Berman and biased Tom Jackson….anyone here have any contact information for all those clowns?
November 25th, 2008 at 9:44 am
I see that someone was trolling as me late last night. My positivity must have really gotten under someone’s skin. Hilarious.
Morning D, LMN, M, 408 and all the rest of you real folks out there.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:46 am
Morning DK01
thanks again for that validation last night. I was beginning to think I was falling into my Oliver Stone mindset.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:46 am
If these young Raider players get a good taste of dominating the division and the skies the limit. Gotta love how McFadden talked Cable into calling the play he said he would score on. Russell and McFadden were very young studs in the SEC most seem to forget. They won’t be busts.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:47 am
“Reality is whatever one decides it is”
ehh no?! I know you know of Søren Kierkegaard..
you are thinking of the reality of an individuals thought, and i’m talking about the reality of fact..
if you say you can walk through a wall, you might believe it, I still say you can’t because the reality of fact says you can’t, the physics says you can’t..
this win will not get us to the playoffs thats fact, this win does not mean our team is on the right track, this win does not mean our roster suddenly is good, this win does not mean much other than for the players to start believing in them selves again.. but that means helluva a lot
November 25th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Morning Dogg!
I cant say who was trolling as you but OG sure was getting his troll on last night…
Check you guys out later I have to get some work done…
November 25th, 2008 at 9:48 am
yo Dogg..
thank for keeping me company last night, those Miamians never called back, my boss was so pissed, he contacted hyoundai in korea, right away, they got the deal.. lol
November 25th, 2008 at 9:48 am
We all know how BSPN tried to avoid the dominating win all together….what a joke.
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that’s so true dark! i didn’t get to watch the game (live in MO) and was trying to catch the highlights and only saw them one time in 5 recorded episodes of Sportscenter. ESPNEWS didn’t show them either on The Blitz. Watching the Giants/Cards game there wasn’t one gamebreak for the Raiders either after they scored. and during half time of that game all they showed was the stats, no Higgins highlight PR TD. We’re the team everybody loves to hate. You know if the donks won, ESPN and other networks would have been all over the game
November 25th, 2008 at 9:50 am
The Raiders roster is not that bad, ask the Jets. The approach was all wrong with Kiffin starting with the no rival talk.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:50 am
408
OG and I have no beef, so I highly doubt it was him. It was some fake MR trying to hate on me last night. I rise above the nonsense anyway.
I think it’s hilarious that someone found it necessary to pretend to be me.
have a good day bro
November 25th, 2008 at 9:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 9:38 am
John Wade is a lot stronger than Grove. Grove excels in the zbs because of his aggressive style and quickness. He’ll hold his own and cuts pretty well, but he never dominates anyone. He simply gets the job job, which makes him average. Wade has more power and the ability to move people, but he’s not as quick as Grove and probably doesn’t cut as well. He wasn’t familiar with the zbs, because the Bucs didn’t run one. Those reasons made Grove the starter, but since Wade has had a little time to get the zbs down, he seems to be getting better. His strength is a huge lift for us and I don’t think he’ll get mauled by Jamal Williams when we play the Chargers, like Grove would. I think he should start as long as he’s playing well. Same with Alston & Lelie.
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Don’t know where you got your Grove info from but its wrong on a couple of points.
Grove’s NOT quick.
Been bothered by a bum knee for 2 years. Finally had surgery on it this ofgf season and said he felt great.
Before he got dinged, he could rarely get second level and it showed in our lack of outside ground gains.
He’s looked slow and fat too often this year, but does well in tight, but quick nuh-uh…
Wade blew several assigments against Denver mostly inthe run game but was successful at getting second level and its one of the reasons we had a 100 yd rusher and some semblance of a ground attack.
12th yr man Wades not the answer, but neither is Grove.
Grove actually played well against Jamaal week 4 for the most part and had a solid game against Marcus Stroud too.
Wade’s been a disapointment, but not nearly as much as Grove.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Jhill..
yeah I won, and an important win.. i won this week too..
but that was way easier, he had earnest graham and Javon walker as starters.. and what was weird he had brady on his bench.. I had discarted that fella right after IR, but why not, he just made it easier for me =)
November 25th, 2008 at 9:53 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 9:48 am
“yo Dogg..
thank for keeping me company last night, those Miamians never called back, my boss was so pissed, he contacted hyoundai in korea, right away, they got the deal.. lol”
LMN
It was a pleasure, I miss chatting with the brethren. That’s why I’m back so soon.
Funny how some people seal their own fate inadvertantly. Those Miamians blew it!
November 25th, 2008 at 9:55 am
darkknight01 Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 9:42 am
I also love how the idiot Primetime Sanders, didn’t put JLH Punt return in his top 10 highlights.
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I wonder if Peion Glanders showed Chris Johnson high steppin’ ala Col. Sanders on his called back interception?
Eat it mass media. we know whats goin’ on. If Oakladn can start to win and keep progressin, they won’t be able to ignore for long.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:55 am
N21: Grove nor Wade are problems on this o-line. Major upgrade over Newberry. the problems on the o-line have mainly been Harris & Green. not only for poor pass protection, but for the false starts. These two players have really hindered the offense. Too bad all we have is Henderson & Marten backing them up …
November 25th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Dogg..
I can’t understand why.. they didn’t call didn’t email, fax us or anything.. this was a major deal, I bet it would have made work for at least 150 jobs for 6 month..
we decided to go local because its a good sign, and transportation is cheaper, we was thinking about the tough stretch you guys are gong through.. but nopes, those who made the cranes in SD, will make these now..
I don’t know the size of the deal, i just know it was BIG..
November 25th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Harris and Green are better than Simms and Walker though.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Nnamdi -
I was very suprised that Deion didn’t mention CJ at all, considering Sanders is CJ’s mentor and they work out together in Texas in the off season.
I think it will take a few more W’s before the Raiders get the respect that they deserve.
Meanwhile the Lions continue to get coverage.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:58 am
I would love to see this team draft Alex Mack, but it probably won’t happen unless they trade down from there 1st pick….or trade up from there 2nd rounder.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:59 am
Its almost certain Davis will take a lineman this time around if they can’t find any before the draft right after the season is over.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:59 am
I think Marten and Henderson can develop. This team needs a legit bookend LT who can do it all!
November 25th, 2008 at 10:00 am
everybody used to call him Pee On Deion when I was younger … he was always a flashy self promoter and when DeAngelo Hall played in ATL he reminded me of Sanders. That’s why I wasn’t thrilled about the trade. Too much flare, not enough substance. Too much talk, not enough football to back it up.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:00 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 9:55 am
N21: Grove nor Wade are problems on this o-line. Major upgrade over Newberry. the problems on the o-line have mainly been Harris & Green. not only for poor pass protection, but for the false starts. These two players have really hindered the offense. Too bad all we have is Henderson & Marten backing them up …
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Centers are a prob, just not the most glaring.
Agreed. Worst tackles in history.
Oddly, Harris had his best game as a Raider.
Hope Henderson comes around eventually. I like the kid, he’s got some technique and has been bulking up. maybe nexzt year he can start to get worked in.
Think its a matter of him being comfortable and executing better.
Like you mentioned about Wade, maybe a lack of familiarity with the ZBS…
November 25th, 2008 at 10:00 am
hmm I better go fetch some dinner before i go watch some champions league..
November 25th, 2008 at 10:01 am
I’m hoping Mack will be available with our second-round pick, might be a pipe dream though.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:01 am
408..
are you ready? only ~25 posts to go..
November 25th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Al Davis Underoos Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 9:59 am
Its almost certain Davis will take a lineman this time around if they can’t find any before the draft right after the season is over.
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Tauscher looks like Al’s kinda guy. Cheaper than most FA’s next year at least.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Harris and Green are better than Sims and Walker though.
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ADU: that is the best joke i’ve heard all day!
November 25th, 2008 at 10:03 am
I’m telling we need to email NFL Network and BSPN….and just rip them and call them out on there BS!
Those stations love to try and dish it out…but they can’t take it can they? Cowards with no credibilty!
And people don’t think there is a conspiracy against the Raiders??
Blatantly obvious…or alot of those media clowns lost alot of money on Denver! hahaha
November 25th, 2008 at 10:04 am
DK01
That’s what I’m talking about. Spearhead that effort and let me know where to send the e-mail.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:04 am
The ESPN shills still believe in the myth that Davis coaches the team from his golf cart.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Funny how no ones really all over Johnson’s great performance. Don’t want to jinx it or call the ball too soon. Hope he just plays at this level now and we’ve got a bad ass one on one shut down corner outa no where.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:05 am
RR Simms and Walker would have false started us into a loss last Sunday if they were still here lol.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:05 am
385. Right awn!~
November 25th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Arguing Sims/Walker vs. Harriss/Green is like debating the merits of Meister Brau vs. Milwaukee’s Best.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:07 am
What about that pop that Johnson laid on that guy in the flat. Never saw Meangelo do anything like that.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:07 am
Unleash the beast!!
November 25th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Al Davis Underoos Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 10:04 am
The ESPN shills still believe in the myth that Davis coaches the team from his golf cart.
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BNecause there are no more real journalists in TV anymore, no one even tried to question Kiffin’s famous “Davis Letter”.
I wishthey would have. Fromthe letter it sounded like Kiffin had afar more control and say than we’d been led to belive possible from ole Al.
Course they just dismiss everything off hand because they’ve bought into the lie and over blown hype they helped create.
The only vengeance is winning.
Raider Nation
November 25th, 2008 at 10:08 am
I think Marten and Henderson can develop. This team needs a legit bookend LT who can do it all!
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i agree dark. We need a LT in the worst way. If we keep Cable and the ZBS i think we should move Kwame to RT and draft a LT in the 1st round. Keep Green as the backup RT. Cut Marten and have Henderson compete with the rookie to be the starting LT.
If we abandon the ZBS the entire line might need to be scrapped, except maybe Wade, McQuistan & Marten. Even those guys might just be backups …
November 25th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Hudepohl for the ESPN team. http://countryjoescollectiblestuff.com/hudepohl_can.html
November 25th, 2008 at 10:11 am
I think we let Wade start rest of year,all next year to groom Chris Morris 4 the center position,the position he started for 3 years at Mich.St.Drafted by us in ‘06.If we could get 1 good year out of Wade Morris will be ready imo
November 25th, 2008 at 10:13 am
who is going to cover Tony on Sunday?
Hiram? Gibril? Stanford? Thomas? Kirk? Jon?
November 25th, 2008 at 10:13 am
RRS says:
i agree dark. We need a LT in the worst way. If we keep Cable and the ZBS i think we should move Kwame to RT and draft a LT in the 1st round. Keep Green as the backup RT. Cut Marten and have Henderson compete with the rookie to be the starting LT.
If we abandon the ZBS the entire line might need to be scrapped, except maybe Wade, McQuistan & Marten. Even those guys might just be backups …
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If Cable can inspire a few more wins this year and show enough progress he might be our HC next year…
I think Ryan stays too. His defensive baby is just about ready to be good. I think he’ll wanna stick around for the pay off.
Then again, you never know with this outfit. You never know…
November 25th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Nnamdi21,
How do you expect these guys to have the time to research stories AND make commercials for their gay Nutrisystem diet? It’s one or the other, dude.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:15 am
I think Chris Morris had the highest score on the wonderlic test, didn’t he? must be a smart player.. I know that Raiders draft class had the highest overall of any other team that year. Maybe he’ll eventually be our version of Kevin Mawae?
November 25th, 2008 at 10:15 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 10:11 am
I think we let Wade start rest of year,all next year to groom Chris Morris 4 the center position,the position he started for 3 years at Mich.St.Drafted by us in ‘06.If we could get 1 good year out of Wade Morris will be ready imo
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I like Morris but not sure if he’s the man at this level. Like his diversity at C / G though.
They say Centers the most important position for the ZBs so we’ll have to see. If he could work out that would rawk.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Rob Ryan is now a good DC? Did the past 5 seasons prove nothing to you people? How many 4th quarter leads must the man blow before you people realize he is worthless? He is already up around 18 times…does it take 40 blown 4th quarter leads before you people realize he doesn’t have what it takes?
And Cable is a good OC? Does the fact that a player had to teach Cable a play that would work in the red zone scare anyone other than me? We didn’t have that toss play in the playbook? Well fix the fuking play book and add some good fuking plays into it. Not just Farglas to the right, Farglass to the Left, Farglass up the middle. Jezuz cripes, are our players really so ignorant that they can’t assimilate a few new plays in the middle of the season? Or, are our coaches too moronic to fix what is obviously broken? Other teams make mid-season adjustments…why do we keep trying the same schit plays in the red zone when they are obviously not working? It took THE MAN MCFADDEN begging and pleading with Cable to actually use a play that might work! Unreal.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Chris in NY Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Nnamdi21,
How do you expect these guys to have the time to research stories AND make commercials for their gay Nutrisystem diet? It’s one or the other, dude.
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BWA-HA-HA!
Lost weight and was still ugly!
November 25th, 2008 at 10:18 am
I certinly hope so RaiderRockstar,he cerinly has the brains&the brawn.I thinke he will have a great carrer with us and some trophys too imo =)
November 25th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Chris Berman, Dan Marino, Mike Golic, who else?
November 25th, 2008 at 10:20 am
#397: Wouldn’t be suprised if Huff is healthy they throw him out there a little. As crappy as he has been, he always did well covering Tony and Gates.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Dakota Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Rob Ryan is now a good DC? Did the past 5 seasons prove nothing to you people? How many 4th quarter leads must the man blow before you people realize he is worthless? He is already up around 18 times…does it take 40 blown 4th quarter leads before you people realize he doesn’t have what it takes?
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Alot of those 4th quarter leads were because of forced substitutions with sub par players.
Thats what happens when your offense goes 3 and out 4 out of 5 times.
This is a good defense. They’re just blown up in the 4th because thy’re on the damn filed too much.
Need a real MLB though. Morrison will be great at SAM, but can’t stop the run. Bites too hard and takes bad angles.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:20 am
sorry 4 the spell I’m a little under nthe weather =( 408 408 408
November 25th, 2008 at 10:20 am
I really do not want to see the ZBS system scrapped completely. If anything it needs to just be upgraded.
IMO….even tho Andre Smith or Oher may not be 100% ZBS system guys, they would still fit in nicely at LT. Both of those guys have great feet and long arms and they can probably play in ANY system. Just as long as they know, there main responsibilty to protect Jamarcus at all times! They need to keep the ZBS and the old man just needs to hire a coach who will find a happy medium with ZBS, and a stretch system. A power blocking scheme can be used at times in short yardage or goal line packages.
Draft Andre Smith or Oher..let Wade and Morris compete at Center next year….let Kwame, Henderson and Green compete for RT. Keep Marten and McQ compete for backup guard spots.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:22 am
vegas raider Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 10:20 am
#397: Wouldn’t be suprised if Huff is healthy they throw him out there a little. As crappy as he has been, he always did well covering Tony and Gates
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His TE coverage has been his saving grace.
Not much of one, but its something.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:22 am
This defense needs a true MLB and another stud DE.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
November
Alot of those 4th quarter leads were because of forced substitutions with sub par players.
Thats what happens when your offense goes 3 and out 4 out of 5 times.
This is a good defense. They’re just blown up in the 4th because thy’re on the damn filed too much.
Need a real MLB though. Morrison will be great at SAM, but can’t stop the run. Bites too hard and takes bad angles.
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BS, we won the time of possession battle last season and Rob Ryan’s defense still blew 4 leads. What was his excuse last year? He hated Kiffin so it was justified blown 4th quarter leads?
November 25th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Peace owt Raider Brethren!
enjoy the day and the week!
Thank you Jerry.
We’re lucky to have you!
November 25th, 2008 at 10:24 am
i’LL try and find contact info on those clowns at NFL Network and BSPN…
They hide….
November 25th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Dakota says:BS, we won the time of possession battle last season and Rob Ryan’s defense still blew 4 leads. What was his excuse last year? He hated Kiffin so it was justified blown 4th quarter leads?
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This defense is built to protect leads, defend the pass and get after the QB.
Only works if we can out score.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:27 am
darkknight01 Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 10:24 am
i’LL try and find contact info on those clowns at NFL Network and BSPN…
They hide….
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Not sure some of them can read…
November 25th, 2008 at 10:30 am
4 sure we need a OT,MLB,RG,DT,DT,then who ever grades out best imo =)
November 25th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Dakota says:BS, we won the time of possession battle last season and Rob Ryan’s defense still blew 4 leads. What was his excuse last year? He hated Kiffin so it was justified blown 4th quarter leads?
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This defense is built to protect leads, defend the pass and get after the QB.
Only works if we can out score.
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Lol what? That is my point…blown 4th quarter leads under Rob Ryan. If this defense is built to protect leads, it isn’t getting the job done under Rob Ryan right?
November 25th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Dakota
How did you think Rob Ryan’s defense played on Sunday? How about the previous Sunday vs Miami? And the previous Sunday against the Panthers? Did Steve Smith have a catch that day?
I know that you think that you are always right, but you need to leave a little wiggle room for that rare occasion when you are wrong.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:41 am
the man right cheeeerrreee, mcfadden gone blow the chiefs up again?
November 25th, 2008 at 10:42 am
they doode good last three weeks with the exception of letting chad pennington get a game winning drive.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Defense particularly this defense, is much easier to play when you have a lead. Think about being the pitcher in a game of baseball. With a 6-0 lead as a pitcher you can take tons of chances. With the game 0-0 in the bottom of the ninth, you can’t take any chances. That’s the way our defense has been the last five years. How often have they had any type of substantial lead?? And a substantial lead isn’t two points.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:58 am
Rob Ryan is garbage. If you think otherwise, you must not have watched the Raiders defense try to stop the run over the past 5 seasons.
The guy was an inside linebackers coach before he came here. Not even LB coach! I’d take Chuck Bresnahan (again) or Mike Nolan as DC before giving this guy a contract extension and that’s pretty sad!
November 25th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Rob’s defense has been excellent since CJ replaced D-Hall.
Rob does go to the Prevent D way too early though. Most prevent defenses are meant to allow 5-10 yard completions. The Raiders’ prevent is the only one that gives up 25 yards at a time. Avoiding those kind of gains is the whole point of the prevent.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:00 am
The Buffalo game was the only time the D blew a substantial lead. The Chargers game fell apart after the bone-headed screen pass they threw with the lead in Charger territory
November 25th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Chris in NY Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Arguing Sims/Walker vs. Harriss/Green is like debating the merits of Meister Brau vs. Milwaukee’s Best.
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i’m thinking Schaefer’s vs. Brew 102
November 25th, 2008 at 11:13 am
At least BHP, Goon, M, LMN and all the rest of the guys in here have the spine to make comments under their names and then defend them, but guys like you amount to nothing. You have no self-confidence and no courage. I’ll bet you are as useless in your real life as you are in this blog.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:14 am
Stop crying ladyboy and post under the name you usually post under or just STFU.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:15 am
we need courage to go along with cowbell…
you need both in this leauge…
courage…
cowbell…
’nuff said…
(and yes, i will back that up!!!)
November 25th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Dakota
Your continual focus on who I am instead of the fact that you are wrong is the source of continual comedy. You mention courage? This from a man afraid to face himself? LMAO!
If you had half a brain and a much smaller ego you would have no problem figuring out who I am, based on my name. You are far too wrapped up in your own nonsense to realize this.
The point is, who I am is irrelevant. But please continue to distract yourself, by all means.
Still lmao at you
November 25th, 2008 at 11:15 am
# vegas raider Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 11:00 am
The Buffalo game was the only time the D blew a substantial lead. The Chargers game fell apart after the bone-headed screen pass they threw with the lead in Charger territory
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But again Vegas, remember our offense did absolutely NOTHING the entire second half. We had one first down the second half of that Buffalo game! ONE. Jamarcus was two for two in the second half of that game for 78 yards and a TD, all Kiffin needed was one first down to win the game and he ran it up the gut like 5 straight times on his last two possessions. That is not the defenses fault, when your offense cannot get One first down!
November 25th, 2008 at 11:15 am
my real name is Mark Davis. I’m trying to learn about football from the Raider fans, because my father Al won’t teach me. I watch the games, but I really don’t understand them. I know the other teams we play are better than we are because at home games our own fans (you guys) boo us and at away games the fans cheer for their teams because they are winning. on this blog there seems to be many who think we need better coaches and players. I agree, but dad will do what he pleases. He is a great man and one day I will take over this proud franchise. Like daddy says “we will win”. Keep the faith RAIDER NATION! The greatness of the Raiders will be in it’s future, not it’s past.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Dakota Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 11:13 am
“At least BHP, Goon, M, LMN and all the rest of the guys in here have the spine to make comments under their names and then defend them, but guys like you amount to nothing. You have no self-confidence and no courage. I’ll bet you are as useless in your real life as you are in this blog.”
I don’t see you backing up any of the nonsense you spew, what a hypocrite!
Dakota Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 11:14 am
“Stop crying ladyboy and post under the name you usually post under or just STFU.”
LMAO
I am clearly getting to you
Continual source of comedy. Thanks for making my day and proving my point simultaneously.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Anybody want a free Raiders bumper sticker? come by Raiders HQ and ask for Mark. I’ll be more than happy to give you one. Bring your cameras too. I’ll sign some pictures if you like. Unlike Rob Ryan, I will be better at evaluating talent than my father.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:25 am
The defense definitely blew that Chargers lead, Vegas. The offense hopefully could’ve put it out of reach with a TD there, but the defense didn’t stop anything in the 4th quarter.
The Raiders have only had 4 substantial leads all year: KC, Buffalo, San Diego and Denver. The defense blew two of them.
I will say this though, a lot of teams blow substantial leads. And the Raiders have been in several games this season (Buffalo, San Diego, Jets, Carolina, Miami) that they had no business being in based on the offense’s performance.
The special teams and Defense are definitely solid. I think they’re actually both very good at this point.
That’s why the Denver game was so encouraging to me. McFadden is back and Russell may have turned the corner. I’ve been saying it since last off-season. This team will rise and fall with JaMarcus. If he explodes, it’s not impossible this team could win out.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:27 am
Chris in NY Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Rob’s defense has been excellent since CJ replaced D-Hall.
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Actually Chris, Ryans defense held Buffalo to 7 points thru 3 quarters in Buffalo earlier this year and San Diego to 3 points thru 3 quarters here. Buffalo just put a 50 spot on KC, and SD has had a good offense all year. When you hold teams to those point totals thru 3 quarters, the games should be over. Running your defense out there time and time and time again to hold, is not a winning formula.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:30 am
New post up
November 25th, 2008 at 11:31 am
why so negative guys? we just beat the denver broncos! i like to see tom cable jumping around on the sidelines. he gets very emotional. i thought he was going to cry in the interview following the win. the players believe in him and he believes in them. he has made players accountable to eachother, not just the coaches and the organization. Will any of you be at the Raider/Chief game this Sunday? i have a luxury box reserved for only the best Raider fans I can find. Amy Trash will be there to greet you. have a pleasant day
—Mark Davis
November 25th, 2008 at 11:34 am
We need to have more class, our guys make a good play and start going “dumb”. Let’s act like we’ve done it before. And Janikowski has every reason to be mad, that man’s looking out for his money. A touchback in the NFL is worth…? Have John caugh up the bread.
I see Fargas didn’t get a game ball…it’s time to show case McFadden. His time is now, the Fargas era is done or should be sun! Fargas is a legit back-up, don’t kid yourself. START MCFADDEN NOW!!!!
November 25th, 2008 at 11:35 am
let me echo the fire rob ryan chants ..
are we that desperate that one win against donks erases all the past misery he’s caused us?
so what he called a good game against these other non playoff teams. ryan’s performance since he’s been here can not be defended.
more importantly, let the next hc pick his d coordinator. I doubt anyone other than cable will pick him.
this blind loyalty is killing the franchise. when is performance going to matter to some of u?
November 25th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Here’s the formula for victory:
McFadden + 20 carries = win
November 25th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Bottomline, DeAngelo is a bust. Johnson had a great game, I can’t wait to see him this week. Can he be consistant? Is the question.
November 25th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Johnson has been doing it the last three weeks. This is just the first time anyone really noticed.
November 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
What about Janikowski? how many kickers do you know that can kick it 80+ yards not just once but all day long like its nothing. And Nnamdi should get the ball of the year for the fear he puts in qbs.
November 25th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Jerry -
Great stuff – For the record you did say the following Sunday morning – Corkran, and the rest had us loosing but somewhere in that cold press heart of yours you saw the possiblities!
“The hell with it. I’m going all in.
Since I’m so much wiser now, and fully cognizant of the fact the Raiders are capable of a no-show at any time, I won’t say the Raiders will win.
Instead, I’ll say they could win. How could this happen? Bear with me for a few moments before responding with your insults, unabashed support or anything in between.
1. The Broncos will be overconfident
No amount of hocus pocus by Mike Shanahan can erase the memory of the opener. The Broncos will never have an easier game than in Week 1. No way they have any respect for the Raiders based what they experienced that night.
They were probably rolling in the aisles when they watched the film the day after the game. They won’t take the Raiders seriously.
2. The Raiders are due
This is how I started the Sept. 8 entry, and it still holds true. C’mon. At some point, the law of averages has to count for something. The Raiders will have a good game at the same time the opponent starts sprouting turnovers.
3. Denver is a sieve on defense against the pass
JaMarcus Russell was fairly accurate (15-for-22) last week against Miami, and Tom Cable reluctantly returned his most reliable wide receiver, Ronald Curry, to the lineup.
Oakland doesn’t have an offensive touchdown in the last three games, and has only one since Cable took over following the bye week.
But here come the Broncos, giving up a 69.1 completion rate, a 100.1 passer rating and have 4-to-14 interception-to-touchdown pass ratio. Champ Bailey has missed three games with a groin injury. Their entire linebacking corps has been turned over.
This is Russell’s opportunity for a breakout game, like say, two touchdown passes.
5. The Broncos can’t run
Denver has built its 21-6 record against the Raiders in the Mike Shanahan era in large part because of their ability to run the ball.
The 2008 Broncos are a passing team, one that cut the Raiders to ribbons in the opener. Oakland is better equipped to handle that this time around. But the Raiders problems of late have come against the run, and Denver is down to Peyton Hillis as a feature back.
6. Darren McFadden could be a factor
Unless what I saw in training camp was a mirage, McFadden is a special player whose rookie season has been ruined by turf toe. Not sure if he’s 100 percent or even close, but there seems to be a big difference in his level of enthusiasm in dealing with teammates, support staff, and the media.
He’s acting like he thinks he’s heathy again. A big play or three could change everything.
7. Derrick Burgess could be a factor
Even if you’re a cynic who believes Burgess has been milking an injury, he needs to flash his skills if he hopes to be trade bait prior to the 2009 draft, which could lead to a better contract. The salary push doesn’t start next year, it starts now.
He’ll be in demand if he picks up half a dozen sacks before the end of the season.
8. Tommy Kelly is becoming a force
He’s been splitting double teams fairly regularly the past few weeks and pressuring the quarterback. He may never live up to the contract he signed in the offseason, but Kelly will end up being a bargain compared to Javon Walker and DeAngelo Hall.
Together with Burgess, Kalimba Edwards and Gerard Warren, the Raiders could disrupt Cutler in a way they couldn’t in Week 1.
9. Thomas Howard is due to make a play
Overdue, as a matter of fact. He was ranging far and wide against Miami, but hasn’t intercepted a pass in his last 12 games. Last time Howard was in Denver, he ran one back 44 yards for a touchdown.
10. Better special teams play
Sebastian Janikowski has a reasonable shot at making anything inside of 65 yards and Shane Lechler is capable of keeping the Broncos pinned deep in their own territory any time the Raiders get as far as their own 35-yard line.
After a debacle against Baltimore, Oakland’s special teams has rebounded nicely and put the Raiders in position to steal a win last week against Miami with Johnnie Lee Higgins’ 93-yard punt return and a Lechler punt to the 6 that set up a safety.
At first glance, Justin Miller looks like a nice addition on kickoff returns, and free agent acquisition Marquis Cooper was also a find in coverage units.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
recording golf stats…
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June 1st, 2009 at 12:15 pm
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