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Final: Chiefs 20, Raiders 13

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, November 30th, 2008 at 4:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Scoring

KC–Larry Johnson 2-yard run (Connor Barth kicks PAT), 13:43

KC–Connor Barth 27-yard field goal, 8:54

Oak–Sebastian Janikowski 51-yard field goal, 2:55

Notes:

– Tyler Thigpen hit Dwayne Bowe with 13-yard dagger and a first down, with Oakland calling its third time out in succession with 2:31 to play.

The Chiefs, taking over at their own 20, gained 3 yards on a run by Thigpen and 5 yards on a carry by Larry Johnson, with the Raiders calling time out at 2:48 and 2:43.

Johnson later carried 15 yards to the Oakland 46, with the Chiefs assistants requesting the “victory” formation, meaning all Thigpen has to do is kneel on the ball until the clock runs out.

– Janikowski’s 51-yard field goal came after an unimpressive drive which saw the Raiders drive 46 yards in 11 plays, with Russell misfiring on some open passes but getting one first down on a scramble and another on a pass to Zach Miller.

The Raiders have all three of their time outs with 2:55 left to play, meaning they can keep deep if they wish and count on stopping the Chiefs offense.

– After a dropped pass by Miller, Russell ran 21 yards on fourth-and-10 to keep the Raiders alive. Russell nearly had a pass intercepted by Derrick Johnson, with Gunther Cunningham nearly having a stroke in the coaches booth next to the press box.

– A pair of misfires by Russell to open receivers Ashley Lelie and Ronald Curry, leading to a three-and-out, led to a smattering of boos with 8:00 remaining as the Raiders punted the ball trailing by 10 points.

Boos also followed a 2-yard loss by Fargas on first-and-10.

Although officially a sellout, the unofficial crowd count numbered considerably less, and the Coliseum was growing more empty as fans began heading for the exits.

–Fargas began to lose possesion on a carry when with Rocky Boiman getting a hand on the ball, with Bernard Pollard knocking it loose, and the Chiefs recovering at the Oakland 38-yard line just one play into Oakland’s possession following the Chiefs score.

A 26-yard by Thigpen got the Chiefs close, with Kansas City ruining its chances for a touchdown with help from a delay-of-game penalty on third-and-5 from the 6.

Barth came in to kick a field goal when Thigpen’s short pass to Brad Cottam came up short.

– The Chiefs finished off a 16-play, 91-yard drive that ate up 9:24 of the clock when Johnson scored from the 2 with 13:43 remaining.

Thigpen rushed for 8 yards on second-and-12 from the 19, then ran 9 more yards on a quarterback draw to the 2 before Johnson went in for the score.

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  • AlisGod (go Warriors go Sharks)

    Well I just read that they had that fake FG play in there since last year and they worked on it every week. I am trying to figure out how Kiffy and Cable think Jano can run 10 yards to even have it in the playbook.

  • AlisGod (go Warriors go Sharks)

    Unknown, If Cable goes 6-10 I think he will be back.

  • S&B – Nation Collective

    AlisGod (go Warriors go Sharks) Says:
    November 30th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
    Well I just read that they had that fake FG play in there since last year and they worked on it every week. I am trying to figure out how Kiffy and Cable think Jano can run 10 yards to even have it in the playbook.
    ===================================================
    Do that on 4th & 2 not 4th &10!!!

  • Nnamdi21

    Spider Says:
    November 30th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
    Can anyone say: DENVER BRONCOS 2008 AFC WEST CHAMPIONS?
    ===============================================

    Can anyone say: Eliminated in round one after “winning” the biggest joke of a division?

    Listen, Brandon Marshall is one Daquiri away from expulsion and your RB’s are one injury away from suiting up Shanahan.

    Ease down little lady…

  • K-Rock

    Cable said, “The Fake FG wasn’t that big a deal at the time, well, obviously the touchdown was a big deal…”

    Gee, ya think?

    Let’s see. You have a change to go up 6-3 and keep the confidence up, but instead you hand KC a 10-3 lead and kill the moral of the players.

    Nice job coach.

  • http://mrisatroll Oakglenn’s Revenge

    Well, AIG, that play was right in front of me, I didn’t think Jano had a snowballs chance in hell of getting two yards, more or less 10. That was a bad play call. For the 2nd year in a row, we have a rookie head coach. Rookie coaches are going to make rookie mistakes just like players. Chalk that one up to experience right there.

  • Unknown

    AlisGod, I think the entire staff needs to be gone including Lofton!! It’s no way in the world we will win 3 more games with this talent!!!

    The players need not look any of these losing coaches in the eye next year!!

    Besides, Al didn’t even know Cable’s name when he became interim coach!! I still don’t believe Al hired him!! lol

  • Spider

    What a day!!!!! Broncos, Nuggets and MR’s Niners WIN!!!! Chargers and faders LOSE!!!! Spider is going to sleep well tonight!!!!

  • S&B – Nation Collective

    Cable lost this game pure and simple. Quite frankly, bad coaching has plagued this team all year.

    Buffalo – Poor offensive and defensive playcalling in 4th QTR

    San Diego – Kiffin on the 76 yard kick instead of trying to get closer, Defensive playcalling killed the team
    Carolina – Offensive game plan was a disgrace
    Miami – Another 4th QTR Collapse
    K.C – Nuff said

    Al Davis HAS to get help picking the next coach

  • K-Rock

    Cable excepts no responsibility for play calling. Deciding instead to blame turnovers and time-of-possession in the 2nd half.

    What about the 1st half coach?

    Cable – “I think you need to be creative and have creativity. It gives the players something to focus on and go out and be creative and have fun doing it.”

    Fundamentals are not enough for these guys? They need trick plays to have fun?

    How about focusing on their assignment and executing basic fundamentals without error and penalties.

    Shouldn’t winning be the main priority?

    For Cable, it’s having fun and being creative.

    He found really creative ways to give this game away today.

    Hope it was fun.

  • K-Rock

    *accepts*

  • S&B – Nation Collective

    Raiders play A.F.C football….Another Fourth-quarter Collapse!

  • Unknown

    K rock, it was only 1 trick play!!! Games are won in the 2nd half!! That’s how the good teams do it in the 4th quarter in any league!!

  • K-Rock

    # Unknown Says:
    November 30th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    K rock, it was only 1 trick play!!! Games are won in the 2nd half!! That’s how the good teams do it in the 4th quarter in any league!!
    ………………………..

    At what point did you start thinking the Raiders were a good team?

    This team needs to get leads early and build on them.

    They are not built to play from behind.

  • S&B – Nation Collective

    Unknown,
    THe trick play resulted in 7 free pts for K.C. Our team is not good enough to give away points.

    raiders should have been up 9-3 at half time. Play straight up…

    Cable has to go

  • K-Rock

    Raiders new mascot should be a blind squirrel

  • http://raiders Oakglenn’s Revenge

    You can’t blame this loss on Tom Cable. That is a ridiculous statement. But again, so many fans have been blaming all our losses on Rob Ryan as well. In the 2nd half, Fargas fumbles on our side of the field, untouched, after a 10 yard gain. That right there probably cost the game. Wilson dropping a sure interception, that sustained a drive that resulted in the winning margin. That right there was the game. Jamarcus had a bad game. The receivers did nothing. Any ONE of those things cost this game. To blame any ONE of them, is ridiculous. Team loss.

  • Unknown

    K rock, we had numerous leads this year and lost them!! Most of the close games we had this year we lost them!!!

    It doesn’t matter if we have leads in the final 4 games, we’ll be lucky to win 1 with this dearth of talent!!!

    K rock, a field goal instead of the fake would brought us this same fate, today!!! Look at our record and talent that kiffy left!!

  • James

    this one hurt. there is no excuse for losing to KC. they are only a TINY bit better than the lions.

  • Unknown

    Oakglenn’s Revenge Says:
    November 30th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
    You can’t blame this loss on Tom Cable. That is a ridiculous statement. But again, so many fans have been blaming all our losses on Rob Ryan as well. In the 2nd half, Fargas fumbles on our side of the field, untouched, after a 10 yard gain. That right there probably cost the game. Wilson dropping a sure interception, that sustained a drive that resulted in the winning margin. That right there was the game. Jamarcus had a bad game. The receivers did nothing. Any ONE of those things cost this game. To blame any ONE of them, is ridiculous. Team
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thank you!!!

    How many different ways can I say we HAVE NO TALENT!!!

  • K-Rock

    I am not giving excuses to the players either.

    Cable did not lose the game. The Raiders lost the game.

    Cable did make mistakes that put his players in bad situations.

    He got behind and went away from the running game too fast in the 2nd half.

    Russell had a bad day.

    Miller dropped passes.

    Higgins made a bad read when middle of the field was open.

    Plenty of blame to go around, but it starts with the coach. Young players + bad coaching = loss

  • Nnamdi21

    200. OakGlenn

    Yup.

  • Spider

    Unknown Says: How many different ways can I say we HAVE NO TALENT!!!

    You’re just now figuring that out:-)

  • http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/floresrd508/mcfaddenball.jpg SouthTexasRaider

    FAHQ!

  • K-Rock

    One main reason I brought up Cable was because I was interested in seeing if he would take the heat and assume some responsibility for the poor play calling.

    He did not. He defended it.

    How about, “This one’s on me fellas. I made some bad decisions early and let KC into this game. I will learn and be better next time.”

  • Nnamdi21

    Oakglenn’s Revenge Says:
    November 30th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
    You can’t blame this loss on Tom Cable. That is a ridiculous statement. But again, so many fans have been blaming all our losses on Rob Ryan as well. In the 2nd half, Fargas fumbles on our side of the field, untouched, after a 10 yard gain. That right there probably cost the game. Wilson dropping a sure interception, that sustained a drive that resulted in the winning margin. That right there was the game. Jamarcus had a bad game. The receivers did nothing. Any ONE of those things cost this game. To blame any ONE of them, is ridiculous. Team loss.

    =======================================================

    F’in A. Guys didn’t make plays. Gibril’s bobble of a sure pick would’ve killed a KC drive and kept points off the board. Little plays like a lob ball 3rd and long to Gonzales added with all the rigga ma roll killed us.

  • S&B – Nation Collective

    can we please get a real, qualified NFL head coach

  • Nnamdi21

    Bottom line. We got f’in cute and disrespectful with the Chiefs and it cost us.

    Take this **** seriously Cable and Co.!!!

  • Raiders Rain

    That game was a horrible display, the Raiders almost looked as bad as the Chargers and that’s a low blow for sure.

  • Unknown

    Spider, I”ve been knowing this for about the last 4 years. A team with talent doesn’t win 4 games a year!! You didn’t know that?

  • K-Rock

    # Spider Says:
    November 30th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Unknown Says: How many different ways can I say we HAVE NO TALENT!!!

    You’re just now figuring that out:-)
    ………

    Had enough talent to spank the Broncos in Denver.

    Just young and inconsistent talent that needs to be molded by an experienced HC.

  • DarthPirate

    Nnamdi21, Even our announcers on the radio were saying we got too cute. I think disrespectful was a great word to use.

    They were riding a little too high after that win last week.

  • K-Rock

    Miami has 1 terrible season and goes out and overhauls the front office and coaching staff.

    Raiders have 6 terrible seasons. Does nothing.

  • S&B – Nation Collective

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    November 30th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
    Bottom line. We got f’in cute and disrespectful with the Chiefs and it cost us
    ===============================================
    That’s right. Just play straight up and we win.

    Cable has too much of that Dick Vermeil feel good stuff for me. That doesn’t work in Oakland. I don’t care what anyone says, that hocus pocus fake field goal AND going for it on 4th and 2 lost this game.

    Get a real coach

  • Charged Up

    KC started TWO ROOKIE CB’s = RAIDERS WR’s caught ONE ball for ZREO YARDS !!!! baaaaaawaaaaahahahaha

  • Unknown

    K-Rock Says:
    November 30th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
    # Spider Says:
    November 30th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Unknown Says: How many different ways can I say we HAVE NO TALENT!!!

    You’re just now figuring that out:-)
    ………

    Had enough talent to spank the Broncos in Denver.

    Just young and inconsistent talent that needs to be molded by an experienced HC.

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    k rock, that’s 1 game.. The lions wont have talent if they win 1 game this season!!

    We will be switching coaches every year if we kept 75% of these losers!!

  • http://! Blackholepriest

    This was a classic case of recievers and QB not oln the same page. Russell struggled badly today and at one point his confidence was obviously shaken.

    Russell needs to really work on his footwork in he offseason it’s very sloppy at times. You can’t arm the ball in this your mechanics must be sound and his are erratic at best that is the biggest reason for the inconsistency.

    Lelie’s head was not in this game. He ran bad routes several times of which Oak has already mentioned. When that happens the QB starts guessing and that I believe led to Russell loss of confidence.

    Russell is still leaning on one player way too much. If e would spread the ball around he would be more successful IMO. When Lelie wasn’t into the game, Russell continued to go to him when Higgins was beating his man like a drum. Russell must get that fixed.

    Fargas’s fumble killed us I really felt we would win until that happened. Bad timing, horrible play. If we answered with a TD on that drive we win this game……………period

    Everyone keeps calling for DMC to get 20 carries I disagree to a certain extent. He’s just not himself, he’s misreading blocks and is struggling seeing holes. The last few weeks since he’s been back he’s missed several opportunities for huge plays. As he starts to see those more then yeah, he should start but today he should’ve made bigger plays with the touches he got. I’m not sure why but he struggles carries the ball out of the backfield, there are cutback lanes and he never sees them.

    Our lack of big plays 40+ yards is killing this team, we work too hard to score. I feel that is our biggest problem. Everything is short of the goaline it’s mistifying.

  • S&B – Nation Collective

    2nd and 3 in the red zone….How come Bush does not get the ball? Fargas is not a short yardage back! Cable is a terrible offensive coach

  • Nnamdi21

    DarthPirate Says:
    November 30th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
    Nnamdi21, Even our announcers on the radio were saying we got too cute. I think disrespectful was a great word to use.

    They were riding a little too high after that win last week.
    =====================================================

    yup, yup. http://www.raidernationstation.com

  • Nnamdi21

    Black hole Priest said:

    ” I’m not sure why but he (DMC) struggles carries the ball out of the backfield, there are cutback lanes and he never sees them.”

    He sees them just can’t cut.

    Turf toes still bad…

  • Nnamdi21

    238. Bush makes more sense in short yardage but not sure if they trust him with ball security…

  • DarthPirate

    241. To be honest, I’m not sure that Bush is a short yardage back. He seems to be better in space.

  • http://raiders Oakglenn’s Revenge

    Nnamdi is exactly right. We did get too cute and it pissed them off. The other excellent point Nnamdi makes is they made plays. We didn’t. We had that game in our grasp and gave it away. When they needed a first down, Thigpen busted gains for 20 yards on his own. Look at the ball he threw to Gonzalez on the left boundary on third and 14 in the second half. How do they make that play??? The final third down conversion with CJ all over the reciever. Their guys came down with it. Their guys made the plays over and over. Our guys fumbled the ball without being touched. Our guys couldn’t get open. Our guys dropped int’s. Our guys got cute on a fake punt and effed sh** up. That’s the difference between wins and losses games in this league.

  • RAIDER209

    Once again we can go back to letting rob ryan call the run D when we are trying to get the ball back, what happen to cable calling all the plays? other than that I thought, besides the loss, our offesne looks better…charged up, we are beating you guys on thursday so dont look forward to it, 17-10 RAIDERS

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