Cable: No regrets about fake FG
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, December 1st, 2008 at 4:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes and analysis from Tom Cable’s weekly press briefing Monday, the day after a 20-13 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs:
– Cable again stressed “full responsibility” for the fake field goal attempt which resulted in a 67-yard touchdown for the Chiefs’ Maurice Leggett, but didn’t second-guess himself.
“I don’t regret it. I don’t think you can,” Cable said. “Otherwise I don’t think you make it in the first place. So there’s no sense in doing that.”
– The Raiders coach faced the music with no sense of emotion either way, undertanding he was in the line of fire because the play didn’t work.
“It worked every time (in practice), and that’s the shame of it all,” Cable said. “But it’s like I mentioned a few weeks ago, if you take a chance like that and it works, everybody thinks you’re a genius. When it doesn’t everyone wants to chew on your butt.
“So chew.”
At the risk of biting off more than I can chew, you can’t compare the Janikowski fake to the one in which Jon Alston raced 22 yards as an upback against the Jets.
For one thing, Alston is a former high school running back, is extremely athletic and fast enough to have run down Reggie Bush while a linebacker/safety at Stanford. Janikowski is, well, Janikowski.
Another thing _ the Jets were better or equal to the Raiders, while the Chiefs most definitely were not. When the fake didn’t work against Kansas City, it provided life to the Chiefs.
– If the Janikowski fake worked every time the Raiders tried it during practice over the past two years, that doesn’t say much for whoever was playing the right edge during practice.
“Aw, man, Seabass got me again! C’mon coach, you’re killin’ us with that play!
– I realize I’m not looking at the play with a trained eye, but has anyone seen a replay that suggested that if Janikowski had caught the ball, he would have successfully run a good 17 yards (seven yards behind the line of scrimmage plust the 10 for the first down)?
Although he didn’t break out an overhead projector for purposes of demonstration, Cable apparently has.
When asked if Janikowski could have made the first down if the ball was handled cleanly, Cable said, “Yeah, because of the guy’s (Leggett’s) width, and that’s what we were counting on.”
– The recovery of veteran players such as Gerard Warren, Cornell Green and John Wade will be watched closely in practice as the Raiders must bounce back to play Thursday night in San Diego. Guard Cooper Carlisle, who left the game briefly with an ankle sprain, returned to finish the game and is expected to face the Chargers.
Players were not at the facility Monday, and will have a full day of practice Tuesday _ their usual day off. They have shorter practice Wednesday before departing for San Diego.
– Darren McFadden’s one-touch second half had a mostly to do with the Raiders inability to get off the field on defense, Cable said.
The Raiders had the ball for only 8:50 of the second half, with the Chiefs controlling it for 21:10.
“We really didn’t have the football in the second half,” Cable said. “Some of that was due to that, on the one-play, turnover series, we didn’t get any kind of rhythm in that second half where we could continue to do some of those things.”
It also could have played a hand in a young quarterback who was fell off badly in the second half in terms of accuracy. Russell was 3 of 13 for 29 yards.
“I think certainly when you’re young like that, you want the ball,” Cable said. “You want the ball. But for us, it’s when we get it, we have to do the right things with it, take care of it, move the ball, score points. So can that happen? Sure, it probably could. But you’d like to believe whenever we get it, we’ve got to take it and do the right thing.”
– The lost fumble by Justin Fargas was his first in 288 carries, dating back to last season’s game against the Chicago Bears at the Coliseum. Cable said there was no need to mention anything about the turnover to Fargas, who realized he was carrying the ball with his inside arm. (Fargas has fumbled but not lost possession).
“He carries the weight of this team on his shoulders,” Cable said. “He’s one of your bricks in your foundation. He’s the kind of guy that doesn’t say much, goes to work every day. He feels as bad as anybody today, so it’s not necessary.”
– The time of possesion issue hurt the offense in the second half, but Cable had no real quibble with the Raiders played defensively. Rob Ryan’s defense set up the only touchdown and gave up only 13 points.
“You always have to think about points allowed,” Cable said. “That’s what it is defensively. That’s how you evaluate your defense. They did a nice job that way. Obviously, you like to see them get out of a couple of those drives a little bit in terms of time of possession. But when you hold a team to that few of points, you have given your team a chance to win. That’s what you ask of them.”
– Cable on Lane Kiffin’s hiring at Tennessee: “He can move forward now. That’s what he should do and move to the next step in his career.”
– Cable said he talked to Al Davis, but didn’t reveal the substance of the conversation.
“We talked this morning. Like all of us he’s disappointed,” Cable said.“One thing he and I share is a tremendous passion for winning. Losing is about the worst thing in our lives. That’s what it
is.”
– Without anything in the standings to denote that the Raiders are officially out of the picture in terms of the playoffs, Cable is keeping that possibility open.
“We’re really not out of it. You keep having something to play for,” Cable said. “Everyone has had their issues. All four teams have had their issues in different ways, some it injuries, some of it just poor play. So we’re kind of all in this thing together and it’s just really whoever will sort it out best at the end.”
If that sounds possible, belly up to the Kool-aid bar and order a double.
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December 1st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
vegas raider Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Say Seabass did catch the through the legs pass from Lechler and got the first down. Would some Afro’d dude start yelling “OHHH BABY..OHHH BABY” as Seabass threw the ball in the crowd and the fans rushed the field?
December 1st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
The failed actress keeps trolling!!!
kiffy is a college kid, where he belongs!!! hahahahahahaha
December 1st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
If he didn’t have any regrets, he should have.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:21 pm
what a bunch of BS.. Janofat cant run and would have been dropped for a loss on that play..
December 1st, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Lame Sniffin – VOL NATION BABY Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Chaos you gots some issues man. Anger management before you get your azz kicked by mouthing off to the wrong person.
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Fuk that. I don’t need anger management, nor am I worried about anyone steppin to me, especially some internet tough guy. I always say” If you feel froggy, leap”
December 1st, 2008 at 4:22 pm
JERRY SUCKS!
December 1st, 2008 at 4:22 pm
“I don’t regret it. I don’t think you can,” Cable said. “Otherwise I don’t think you make it in the first place. So there’s no sense in doing that.”
So as some of the “posters”in here would say, you go from one extreme to the next…….
December 1st, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Chaos Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I always say” If you feel froggy, leap”
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WTF? Is that why everyone probably walks away laughing at you?
December 1st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
OR, I thank Cable now for keeping Mcfadden healthy for next year!
I saw Peterson running late in the 4th quarter. For what, you tell me! The game was already decided..
Russy is the main player that needs the work for next year!! Those pathetic wr’s needs no work since they shouldn’t be here!!
December 1st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Lame Sniffin – VOL NATION BABY Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Chaos Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I always say” If you feel froggy, leap”
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WTF? Is that why everyone probably walks away laughing at you?
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No they see their life flash before the eyes and think twice.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Was it supposed to be a pass to TE Tony STewart? Stewart let his guy go untouched and looked to be seasling the left edge against pursuit from the right, but maybe J. Kow was gonna throw it? I’ve seen him run to the side line to force a return man out a few times, but can’t see him out scrambling many people for 10 yds and a 1st down.
Bone head play that cost us 7 points and a momentum shift.
Got cute, got the boot.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:27 pm
I’ll be at the game in San Diego this Thursday!
Interesting thing about Kiffin I didn’t know when he was coaching teh Raiders:
http://bumpshack.com/2008/12/01/hot-coaching-wife-layla-kiffin/
December 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
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December 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
THATS WHERE OUT TEAM IS RIGHT NOW. IN THE TOILET!
December 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Beat San Diego!
December 1st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
LTR!
December 1st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Fuk!
December 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Jerry
we stopped drinking the Kool-Aid 8 weeks ago.. Well @ least I did..
December 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Jerry maybe he shouln’t have called it but if it had worked Jano would’ve gotten the first wether you like it or not.
The entire side was clear, the defender got a gift. Courtesy of coach Cable,. I’ll say we didn’t need that play at that time but if it had worked, I certainly wouuldn’t have had a problem with it. And I don’t think anyone else would either.
But wish he wouldn’t have tried it.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Jerry Mac..
A double won’t do the trick, better leave the bottle.
Maybe, Kiff really has a forked tounge.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Calahan was right! We gota be the dumbest team in America
December 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Chaos Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
What he fuk is it to you bytch azz. I definately didn’t suk his ballz either. Turns out I do have a fukin life and a job bytch!
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Hey Chaos, it’s so nice of you to take timeout this whole season to whine after every one of our losses on here and then having to go back to your life and work last week. I am thankful you decided to come back and join us this week after the loss.
but frankly, I call it being weasel or a chicken Schytt…
December 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Why isnt MCFADDEN always on the field.
and Dang man…he needs space on the outside to run…not in
December 1st, 2008 at 4:43 pm
I like how Cable pulls out all the bag of tricks against the one team we might not need it against, the one team we can line-up man-to-man and probably beat them. Against the Pats in a few weeks and probably Thursday night, against teams we could use the creativity, we will be ultra-conservative with Fargas up the middle and punts and FG’s on every 4th down
December 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Nnamdi, it was a run all the way. I watched the press conf today and he confirmed it. The only thing is it didnt work because Jano ran too early. He said the pitch was fine.
the bottomline is 3 things killed us. The bad FG fake, Wilson’s drop and Gonzales. He was a monster. wilson was all over him and he still caught balls.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
The bad thing about it is I still kinda like J-Russ. But as long as he keeps over-throwing his recievers, leading recievers into oncomming danger, and things of that such…I have a new name for him:
J-Dummy Russel…
Lets see how long he is gonna allow me to call him that…
December 1st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
What a bunch of sissified pansys.
Put me on a list of people who go all out supporting the Raiders while you vagfaced, skirt wearing, kiffin knee pad wearing gobblers sign lists saying keep kiff and fire Al and I cant wear my raider gear on monday because everyone makes fun of me.
Keep me on that list!!
December 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
# AlisGod (go Warriors go Sharks) Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
the bottomline is 3 things killed us. The bad FG fake, Wilson’s drop and Gonzales. He was a monster. wilson was all over him and he still caught balls.
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AIG, don’t forget the Fargas fumble. That was an absolute back breaker. We go from a one possession game to a two possession game instantly. At least the D held them to a FG. Can’t really fault Fargas tho. That was the first time he’s lost the ball in like 300 attempts. Gotta like those odds.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Shane Lechler was a high-school QB, why couldn’t he throw a pass if we HAD to run a fake, you know for the spark Tom was looking for. At least a pass down the field shouldn’t be returned for a TD.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
thank you Andrews Mom
December 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
# Andrews Mom Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
What a bunch of sissified pansys.
Put me on a list of people who go all out supporting the Raiders while you vagfaced, skirt wearing, kiffin knee pad wearing gobblers sign lists saying keep kiff and fire Al and I cant wear my raider gear on monday because everyone makes fun of me.
Keep me on that list!!
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LOL!! Nice one Mom. If you are on that list, it is a badge of honor. If you are not on that list, you drink more kiffie spooge than his wife.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
That was probably the stupidest call I’ve ever seen. 4&2 maybe. But the score was 3-3. No way in Hell Janokowski runs 17yds.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Oak Revenge,
agreed 100%. The bottomline is if we beat KC again, everyone would say we didnt achieve anything. We know we can beat them and are better than them. The breaks went their way and Tom Cable helped them go that way. No excuses.
For me, I look to see if we are ready to turn that corner. Are we ready to compete with the big boys? Say what you will about SD and Denver but I consider them good teams in this league. SD had some bad breaks or else they’d be up there. Winning against Denver in their home was a big deal. Winning against SD will also be a big deal. Let’s see how it plays out.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Cable doesn’t have to answer the questions. You guys don’t get it? He doesn’t want the job! LOL. He is coaching to get “unhired” at the end of the year. Run Fargas down the Chefs throats and FG them to death for a 15-6 win? No way. Al might offer him a job he doesn’t want.
His two calls instead of FGs and a 9-3 lead prove he wants to go coach OL in Seattle. Nobody playing to win pulls that garbage or goes pass happy against a team that can’t stop the run.
LOFTON – The only guy left at year’s end. Man they’re gonna stink in 09.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Now I know how Charlie Brown felt when Lucy pulled the ball away
December 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Vegas
remember last time Lechler threw a pass? that isht was ugly…
December 1st, 2008 at 5:02 pm
AIG, exactly. We beat KC yesterday, everyone here goes, eh, so what, they are 1-11. We lose, it is an absolute catastrophe. They played a near perfect game. We did not. We got cute, and it bit us in the ass. Bet that won’t happen again.
Sure ugly. Anyone would rather go from being the leader of the 3 ring circus, to being the guy sweeping up after the elephants. Sure.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:02 pm
This is all complete nonsense, watching the fake fg was like a call made in the USFL give me a break, in the meantime Cable may be a stand up guy but totally over his head and delusional, he is not an NFL coach. russell really disappointed me, he is either not bright, or arrogant, how can he continually look his receiver straight down without check off on other recievers, every damn time he is not savvy like Ryan or smart enough I realize the receivers suck but come on who is teaching him? Is he listening or is Al showing him bobby hoying film? He is terrible shape and scares the heck out of me. The team is cooked this year next year too take the fur coat off ditch the earings and run a few laps! or pay someone with you money to run them for you!
December 1st, 2008 at 5:03 pm
15%…
#35..Good one.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Winning against Denver was a big deal. Really?
Last year we beat a better Denver team in Oakland and beat them in Denver but for Shannys time-out. We did that with Josh McCown, no DMAC, no Wilson.
Have we really improved? Have we turned a corner? Denver spanked us before they were gutted by injuries. Last year we outscored a healthy Denver team over two games. This year we ended up outscored by 14. Last year 1-1 versus the pathetic Chefs. This year? Last year we had 4 wins. This year?
Russell is not up to McCown level yet – big improvement?
December 1st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
mcclown is no qb, fool…
December 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
some posts are so silly they do not merit a response. #40 is one.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
That’s a load by the way. If we had beaten the one win Chefs in Oakland the team would’ve got the credit it deserves for winning a game it was suppose to win. The “turn the corner” crowd would’ve wet themselves and been talking super bowl.
This team sucks and bashing people who tell the truth about that won’t make it any less true.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
neither is russell.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Jmac missed all his recievers yesterday PERIOD.Also when your DEs over-persue and leave gaping holes that your DTs cant or wont plug,you lose.J Richardson never once tried to cut inside,always went 2 the outside.Then our DTS are NO-WHERE 2b seen.LBs were out chasing recievers.We need a true MLB,one that likes 2 bust you in the mouth all day,a nasty breath-stinkin,pissed-off MLB
December 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
MissRaider, is trolling again
MissRaider=Failed Actress
December 1st, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Im not on anyones side in this, i just hope MR Davis gets it right, the way these players play year in and year out i believe its too much of a player friendly atmosphere, these players dont have it hard, all they gotta do is play a game they supposedly love for gobs of cash, cash not credit, cash. i had hope of us beating the lowly chiefs, with mcfadden, miller, but russell missed curry on the fourth and 3. the fake field goal was ugly at best, and our defense gives up long drives so our offense cant get rythem. reminds me of watching the 2005 raiders, offense cant get on the field cause the defense cant get off the field when it matters, ray lewis’s defense is always prepared. its not rex ryans defense, its rays defense. i think captain kirk is good, but he’s not ray ray. al needs more leaders that he has, more winners. more heart, im pretty pissed about the way this talent is being used. if kiffin was a better coach we’d have won those close games last year, same as this year, same with cable. ive been a raider fan since i was 8 tim browns rookie year. its time the athletes get passed on for the best football player period, wheres trevor scott, burgess cant get a sack or any kind of pressure against an o-line that is worse than ours, nnamddii cant cover everyone, gallery is no steve hutchinson, nor will he ever be. no power in the raiders game, no heart, the way they played in denver was great, but this showing in front of the home crowd is nothing. davis is a football man, but he cant coach these overpayed bastards anymore, every minute of every day like he used to. i dont know what these players think but if they loved the game they should give al his money back and the fans the same. we deserve better.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:17 pm
The players dont execute properly all the time. They are young and they need guidance. A lot of NFL teams fall apart or never get well again.
That isnt the Oakland Raiders.
Our best players sucked yesterday. Dmac’s dogs must have tired and JR is playing the hardest position in the NFL.
I Andrews Mom, being of sound mine and sound body do declare that henceforth and forever more, my faith will grow daily in this young team and furthermore I am determined to never let scoundrels of negative ilk mix lies with a little truth to decieve the gullible and call it anything but Radier hate like it is.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
4evaraider, We need so much it’s not funny.
We can get that mlb. Still not enough
We need a stud wr. Still not enough
We need a stud left t. Still not enough
We need an entire coaching staff with about 30 new players, seriously!! These players know nothing but losing!!
December 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
vegas raider Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Say Seabass did catch the through the legs pass from Lechler and got the first down. Would some Afro’d dude start yelling “OHHH BABY..OHHH BABY” as Seabass threw the ball in the crowd and the fans rushed the field?==================================================
LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL
December 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Griffin, also should be gone next year.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
nice post Josh. finally some sense on this loser blog.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
DE’s SHOULD maintain the edge, and NOT get caught inside.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
mcfadden cant get the ball when were using huggy bear all the time. i dig huggy, but is he what we need. he’s been in this league 6 years, how many touchdowns he got, 10. mario henderson for kwame harris, johnnie lee higgins in the passing game more than 4 plays a game, look at what curry can do when he’s involved. russell is givin a long leash with me for his inexperience, only started what 16 college games, he makes good plays for his youth, and i believe they will all grow together in time, but are they gonna win. the raider way. not lose. the bengals, lions, chiefs, what kind of tradition do they have compared to us, none, this is the raiders.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
All we need is an O line a d line A MLB A WR and a FS… LOL
December 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
go raiders, iam a lifer
December 1st, 2008 at 5:28 pm
kiffen is better off at tann, than he was in oak town working for a fuk head ass hole al davis
December 1st, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Josh Mosley Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Im not on anyones side in this, i just hope MR Davis gets it right, the way these players play year in and year out i believe its too much of a player friendly atmosphere,….
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Josh, I think you really hit the nail on the head on this one. One mistake I think Davis has made recently is giving the players a free reign. Which teams do well???? Let’s take a look:
NY Giants w/ Tom Coughlin: stern disciplinarian
NE Patriots w/ Bellichik: not the cuddliest guy
Recent Dallas and Miami teams w/Parcells: makes a cactus seem soft and nice
Pittsburgh w/Cowher and timlin: You kidding me?
You guys get the point I am sure. Davis’ player friendly environment played well in the 60’s and 70’s when the players wanted freedom and individuality, but in the modern NFL these guys might need someone who can put the boot in.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:30 pm
bill pickel, another great raider lineman. sacked the qb what 44 times in 5 years for us, sean jones, greg townsend, howie long, those were raiders. lester hayes, mike haynes. lester was a shutdown corner, so was haynes. they wanted to win bad enough.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Russell 2008 – Comp % 50.5, yard / att 6.2, TD% 2.5,
McCown 07 – Comp % 58.4, yard / att 6.1, TD% 5.3,
Billy Joe Hobert 95 – 55.9%, 6.8 yards, 7.5 TD%,
Donald Hollis 98 – 51.9%, 6.7, 3.8 TD%
Marinovich 91-92 – 60.7%, 6.5 yards, 8 TD passes in 8 games
Yeah russell rocks.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:31 pm
408…
And, a GM, Coach/Staff, possibly a FB. Depending if O’neal comes back healthy.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Yeah Josh, But Al Davis won’t let his coaches discipline the players, and constantly under cuts their authority. That’s why they get so many penalties year after year, and are so dumb year after year.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:36 pm
and this zone blocking is trash, whatever happened to power. you win with power not finesse. well shanahan uses it. whats he won since elway. nothing. POwer, physicalness. Raider football, run the ball down the oppinents throat, then when they get tired you run play action bombs to recievers who get open downfield. not roll outs and misdirection. if we pass on a offensive tackle with our top 5 pick im buying the raiders. mcfadden will be godly givin a better offensive line, not pretty boys like harris, and gallery gets pushed around also, grove is a joke, cant stay healthy too small, carlisle has heart, cornell green wouldnt start for the lions lol.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:38 pm
hey were getting around the end 2
December 1st, 2008 at 5:40 pm
What is lost in all of this is Kwame Harris had a pretty solid game yesterday. So did the guards, Sands, Gerard Warren, and Tommie Kelly. Shock of all shocks.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:40 pm
when your DEs run 10 yds up the field the QB could run inside outside everyside
December 1st, 2008 at 5:42 pm
i agree kool kell, al needs to find someone to do the dirty work, but a guy who has the same philosphy as al. al truly needs cowher, or parcells, or me. i would run these players till they quit, they’d do tackle drills till they quit, and the ones who didnt quit would make the team. weve seen too much quite from these players, were all fans, we all want the raiders/al to win. its our goal.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:43 pm
post #58 – spot on OR!
Add Fisher and Dungy and Gruden and even Shanny. No nonesense coaches win in the free agent era while Marvin Lewis / Al Davis / Herm Edwards / Norv Turner pushovers stink.
Fox benched Steve Smith – Division leader.
Fisher jettisoned pacman – Division leader.
Wisenhunt didn’t cave to Boldin and benched Edge and Leinart – Division leader
Player’s coaches will be in short supply come playoff time.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:43 pm
josh is right that we need a marquee ass beating LT. And an upgrade at MLB wouldn’t hurt either. Both starting corners, Gerard Warren and Cooper Carlisle are all UFA’s after the season. Should be interesting.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Well Yeah Josh again. But why don’t the Raiders play “Raider Football” ?
Oh I remember, the NFL commentariat said it doesn’t work anymore.
But I agree, that’s why I was hopeful when Art Shell was hired.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:47 pm
mcclown has been n the league about 7 years with numerous teams=loser!!
December 1st, 2008 at 5:48 pm
# Coyote Ugly Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Player’s coaches will be in short supply come playoff time.
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well said.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:48 pm
But then again, you have to have the players for it.
Now if he want’s to go back to Raider football, we’ll need a whole new offensive line.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:49 pm
art shouldve gotten another year or 3, he had trash to work with all around. i liked art, he made us tough again cause they did practice hard. he wouldve made our o-line alot better than that 72 sack season. all he needed was an offensive coordinator who knew the game still. arts philosophy with someone calling plays besides walsh i thought this team wouldve been better off. art got screwed for sure in my book.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:52 pm
and you know damn well that mike lombardi sold al on gallery as a left tackle, though with short arms. gallery dislocated his arm 2 or 3 times playing tackle. i hate mike lombardi, look at some of the draft picks made, do you seriously think if al was calling the shots we wouldnt have larry fitz right now. he was pro ready. gallery in turn is getting paid upwards of 7 ot 8 million bucks to play guard. no pro bowls. he is getting better, but was that a crap pick or what. by the time he gets good enough for a pro bowl merit his contract will be up and thats 6 years down the tube.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:53 pm
I know sometimes people joke and say that USC or such-and-such college team could beat a bad NFL team like the Lions or whatever. I never take that stuff seriously.
But I can honestly tell you I think the Oklahoma Sooners have a better offensive line than the Oakland Raiders right now. Not that the Raiders o-line did a bad job yesterday. I think it was one of their better performances. But based on the whole season, I’d say Oklahoma is better right now.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:56 pm
An Art Shell supporter?
WTF!?!?
December 1st, 2008 at 5:56 pm
loadholt, duke robinson oklahoma
look at bamas o-line,
caldwell, andre smith, we need them all.
ya’ll remember b-robb, a center like that. powerful. mean as hell.
id go tackle, center, tackle in the draft.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:58 pm
phillip buchanon over ed reed,
nap harris over someone else lol.
the list goes on.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Chris
Josh is right about Art. We would be real tough and playing 500 ball.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:01 pm
especially in practice, if you got a good o-line, it makes your d-line that much better. simple as that, you think tommy kelly is afraid of grove or gallery lol. i dont. and the leaders of a team should be the o-line. upshaw, shell, otto, henry lawrence. those are lineman.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Coyote – three of those Qb’s you mentioned had Tim Brown and Company to throw to. Thats a big difference to our current situation. However, Russell does need to mature – I will admit that- but he might as well do it on the field. The cat’s gonna be fine. Just limit him for now and pound the freaking rock!!!
December 1st, 2008 at 6:03 pm
and do those players bring out the best of kelly, sands, and warren. i dont think they do, since cornell green took over at right tackle, has burgess been dominant. at least langston walker helped burgess.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:03 pm
By the way, Interesting board you have here…
December 1st, 2008 at 6:05 pm
for you Kitten lovers…I present this article from the VolsExtra….LMAO
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Higgins: Kiffin unqualified to coach Vols
BY RON HIGGINS The Commercial Appeal
Originally published 09:17 a.m., November 27, 2008
Updated 09:17 a.m., November 27, 2008
If Tennessee athletic director Mike Hamilton hires unemployed 33-year-old Lane Kiffin as the Vols’ next football coach, he’s basically sending the following message to Tennessee fans:
“I’m cheap and I’m easy.”
Cheap because Kiffin, fired by the NFL’s Raiders earlier this season as their head coach, has no buyout. Easy because Hamilton doesn’t have to sweat during the Christmas holidays about making a hire to replace the departing Phillip Fulmer.
I’ve seen this head coach search before, circa Ole Miss in December 2004, when the Rebels were sweet-talked the week before Christmas into hiring the disaster known as Ed Orgeron.
We know how that horror movie turned out, don’t we? Three seasons of players being verbally abused, a third of Coach Ohmygawd recruiting classes quitting or becoming ineligible, and the rest of the SEC wondering what the Ole Miss administration was smoking the day they hired Coach 0-for-the-SEC.
Of course, Hamilton is denying he’s offered Kiffin the job, though sources close to the situation are leaking more information than grounded oil tankers gush bubbling crude.
There are a few reasons why Kiffin isn’t the right hire, and they are more than enough for Hamilton to look elsewhere.
Kiffin has never accomplished anything as a head coach. All his rep comes from his time as Southern Cal’s supposed offensive coordinator in 2005 and 2006, but USC didn’t win the national titles in those years as it did the previous two seasons.
Also, play-calling was shared with quarterbacks coach Steve Sarkisian, with USC head coach Pete Carroll having veto power.
So just how brilliant is the boy wonder Kiffin? Consider that the University of Washington, a Pac-10 school, has an opening, and they haven’t even given Kiffin, someone who knows the league, a sniff.
You know the rest of the SEC is hoping Tennessee hires a 33-year-old, who just happens to be just a year older than former Vols quarterback Peyton Manning (Hey, can we get Peytie Pie to be the next coach?).
Sticking Kiffin in the SEC’s all-star lineup of coaches that includes four coaches who have won national championships (Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Les Miles, Urban Meyer) and another with an unbeaten season (Auburn’s Tommy Tuberville) would be like tossing a goldfish into a pool of piranhas.
Hamilton’s hiring Kiffin would be an admission that Tennessee is a second-rate program, not on par with Alabama and Florida, the SEC’s powers du jour.
When Alabama was shopping for a coach after firing Mike Shula (in some respects a Kiffin clone), Alabama athletic director Mal Moore knew his job was on the line if he didn’t sign Saban. Moore, with an open checkbook, knew he couldn’t come home to Tuscaloosa if Saban, then the Dolphins’ coach, wasn’t on the plane with him from Miami.
When Florida was seeking a coach after firing overmatched Ron Zook, Florida outbid mighty Notre Dame for Urban Meyer, coach of the unbeaten University of Utah.
So if I’m Hamilton, I’d make either Texas Tech’s Mike Leach or North Carolina’s Butch Davis write in blood that they wouldn’t want to coach Tennessee before giving up on them.
They are the type of innovative and proven coaches Tennessee deserves, not a 33-year-old who supposedly wants to hire (are you ready?) old USC staff coaching pal Orgeron.
Thirty-three years old? Phillip Fulmer probably has jockey shorts that age.
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Worst thing we ever did was hiring this Dumb a$$.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:06 pm
russell will be special. hes just young, hes only 22. cutler, rivers, jason campbell, all of them started alot in college. russell didnt, and i dont see russell making the same mistakes with way less talent. he dont have no marshell to throw the ball to. russell will be the real deal. it will take time. i believe thats what mr d had in mind. cutler and rivers still make bad mistakes.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Andrews Mom,
500 ball under Art Shell? I assume you mean 500 A.D. or something.
Art is a poor man’s Romeo Crennell. And Romeo is probably one of the 5 worst coaches in the league right now.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Chris in NY … Sooners got ran over by Texas. Please at least pick Florida or Alabama. dubm a$$.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
al made kiffin famous,
washingotn hasnt won a game all year and no kiffin interviews lol. sarkiesian wouldve been a better coach, being that he coached with us during our run at the super bowl and our 3 division championships in a row. if i was al id hire gannon to coach russell. no more video games, or pool table. playbooks and the filmroom.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:10 pm
AlisGod, kiffy didn’t even get a mention for a NFL head coaching job! Not even a usual rumor!!
Even Norv left here and got a NFL job!!!
December 1st, 2008 at 6:11 pm
romeo couldnt hold arts jock. romeo has pro bowl players at 5 positions on offense, cant win a game. his defense has talent in the front 7, cant win a game.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Josh, first thing is no more fur coat
December 1st, 2008 at 6:16 pm
true dat lol, he should be wearing old ass chuck taylors. i wouldnt wear a fur coat after getting beat by the leagues laughingstock. is he pimpin or playin ball lol.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:17 pm
You guys notice how the local paper in the BayArea was spinning how beautifully Kitten played this thing out….until we found out Washington wouldnt even sniff him even though they won zero games….I do remember Kitten lobbying for that job too…funny how these writers make things up as they go.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:19 pm
A new defensive would do wonders…
On 1 of those 3rd down runs by stickpen, with all of the man to man going on, he ran for 35 yards for nearly a score!! If it was a zone defense, he would’ve had about 6 or 7 yards at the most!!
We kept fallen for that every 3rd down in the 2nd half it seems!!
December 1st, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Josh, one thing we all have to admit is that Russy have very few ints. That is his silver lining so far.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:21 pm
writers are trash, most of them never played the game. did jerry play ball, or did he write. these guys wanna make al into the devil, and wanna make these coaches into saints. al let kiffin have his way in my book, gave him the power to bring in the zone scheme and all that comes with it, kiffin wanted more talent, i believe kiffin was huge in the walker signing, and the hall trade. kiffin and mark jackson both. remember al dont show up to work before noon. kiffin was always there working. kiffin is gonna be done in tennesee before his first recruiting class plays a snap
December 1st, 2008 at 6:22 pm
#85 Kiffin talks a good game and all the suckers fall for it. He’s a professional liar who hides from respnsibility.
Mr Davis was sucked because he was desparate and so is UT. His father may be able to save him but Davis saw through his attempt for the safety net.
I wnder if that kid will throw his father under the bus the way he did Ryan so often. At some point he’s going to have to stand behind his own work and be accountable.
Certainly not by his cronnies in here they’ll follow him into a pit. And this may be the pit he can’t dig his way out with lies and fault finding.
Hopefully he learns and changes in time to develope his talent and have a decent career. My immediate opinion is his. he’s bit off more than he can chew.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Is that true the o line hasn’t given up a sack in 2 games?
December 1st, 2008 at 6:23 pm
russell is making good decisions for young qb. he will make better choices as he progresses. i dont doubt that. cutler and rivers will still be making the same bad mistakes and they are veterans.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:23 pm
AlisGod,
I was talking about the Sooners O-Line. Best in the nation. Probably will have two 1st-round picks in the upcoming draft and a prime reason they’re scoring 60+ nearly every week.
They put up 35 on Texas and were winning the entire first half, the majority of the game and with 11 minutes left. So don’t pretend Texas was dominating that game. The Longhorns had a nice comeback but then lost to a Tech team Oklahoma went out and beat by 40 points.
Big 12 is far superior to the SEC this year. Florida and Alabama are the only two teams that could hang with the likes of Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech, Okalhoma State and Missouri this year. The rest of the conference sucks.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Kiff was in Washington, was seen at the airport by Petros Papadakis, two weeks ago.
What didn’t happen, is that Kiff did not leak it to the press.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:26 pm
I knew kiffy couldnt coach when I saw him stick with mcclown, week after week!! Every week he would say I’m going with Josh!!!
I can’t wait to see his qb in college!!! shhhh
December 1st, 2008 at 6:28 pm
its a finesse o-line, i dont like it. giving up a sack is the same as a false start, or a holding call, or a play where the running back should have somewhere to run but he gets stuffed because of a missed cut block. cant score in the red zone cause the zone scheme doesnt allow for man to man blocking. power. things will be different next year with oren oneal back, and a different philosophy. mcquistan also, is a physical blocker. the type we need, drafted by art shell.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:28 pm
I think Kiffin will do all right at Tennessee. The Raiders were a joke under Art Shell the year before he got here. At least there was a little improvement and some competitive games last year.
Plus the great SEC coaches — Meyer, Saban, Miles, Spurrier — are all basically A-Holes. So Kiffin may win over some recruits because he’s a more likable guy … unless you’re Al Davis.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:29 pm
“Mr Davis was sucked because he was desparate and so is UT”
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BHP, if that’s true, it’s more ammunition for Al’s retirement.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm
competitive losses are what we want for 20 games also lol. we want to lose close games. yeah kiffin was wonderful.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
jerry porter just dropped another pass..
They just said he has 8 catches for 115 yds and 1 td catch all year….
Even javon panned out better than that!!
December 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
art had to take over for norv turners crap, san diegos next coach will go through the same thing that art went through after coming in for norvel
December 1st, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Porter just dropped a wide open slant route.
8rec, 135yds., 1TD. So far this season. For 10 Million Dollars.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:33 pm
thats one dude i dont miss, jerry porter, to think he wanted to wear timmy browns number. jerry porter never has or will reach 1000 yards recieving in a season. tim brown did it with donald hollis and billie joe hobert wingin him the ball.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:34 pm
115yds. my bad.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:35 pm
its too bad porter couldnt of blew out his achilles instead of curry, curry has the heart of a lion. he never quits. porters middle name is quit.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Josh,
Competitive losses aren’t the end goal. But they’re better than watching the opposing team go up 20 points in the first quarter and basically kill the clock for the rest of the game because they know your team is completely incapable of scoring.
You can see progress by going from 2 miracle wins and 14 beat downs to 4 wins and 7 or 8 games that are decided in the 4th quarter and only a couple of beat downs.
Anyone who thinks Art Shell just needed more time, or that Kiffin didn’t improve things, either didn’t watch a game in 2006 or just has a terrible memory.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:36 pm
curry has the talent of kiffy. none
December 1st, 2008 at 6:42 pm
i remember fans saying kerry collins had to go, so art gets to work with aaron brooks. i remember us playing great defense, i remember moss quiting, porter in the dog house, curry getting eased back into the lineup, chad slaughter was our starting right tackle, lamont jordan was our rb, i remember kiffin coming in and saying kevin boothe wasnt good enough, when he was our best lineman, i remember. kiffin sucked, art wouldve turned this team around. now we will never know. kiffin wanted moss gone. art got to hold the bag of trash left over from norv. the only thing art did that i hate was aaron brooks, and starting alvis whitted all year lol. i watched every game chris. i remember rob ryans defense giving up leads in san diego and denver. i do remember, art won 2 games in a row against pittsburgh and arizona. shouldve won 3 more games.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Cable is a much better NFL coach than kiffy, but, he has to be gone at the end!!
We need a face lift from this losing kiffy era..
December 1st, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Also remember that was a traditionally bad Arizona team, not the Cardinals of 2008.
And the only reason we beat Pittsburgh was on a Chris Carr 100-yard INT return for a touchdown.
Should’ve won 3 more games? I highly doubt it.
Art brought in Tom Walsh and never made a halftime adjustment.
If the NFL were like college the Raiders would’ve been losing games 77-3 that year. Teams took their foot off the gas by halftime in most of those games.
And Moss was a quitter, Jordan was lazy, etc. But what did Art do about it. He refused to call out Moss for quitting on plays. He obviously didn’t have the respect of those players. What moves did he ever make to try to gain control.
At least Cable got rid of D-Hall and moved Chris Johnson to the starting lineup. I definitely don’t want Cable to be our HC next year but he’s about 10x better than Art Shell.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:49 pm
well im out of here for the night, im in the central time zone, i hope ya’ll have a great night, and listen to bob marley or burning spear. ill be back tommorrow. heopfully jerry tells us something good, maybe al sells team to raiders fan josh mosley lol. for a nickle a year forever. as long as we win. key word is we.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Good night, Art.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Chris in NY,
Puhleez…It’s all about the W’s bro. How do you explain Tech whooping Okstate yet OKstate almost beat OK. It’s all about the W’s bro. Last that I checked Texas won. You can’t have a team that beat you rank lower than you.
Was it Kitten that kept the game close and competive by scoring this year or was it the D and spec team? Last that I checked his O didnt do crap all year. They couldnt even get a first down to win in buff.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Hey Chris,
How was Kitten’s halftime adjustments….I can’t seem to remember Kitten’s team playing better the 2nd half than the first. Can you help me? Please…with some sugar.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:53 pm
KK I feel Mr Davis was desparate to get new blood in and new ideas. He saw the kid as a link to the future and was trying to jump ahead of the game.
Trouble is the kid is a con-artist, a good coach who has problems owning up to mistakes which actually help you grow. If he doesn’t change that he will never benefit from experiences, he’ll just con his way through life. Ultimately never fulfilling any promise or perfecting anything.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:55 pm
he didnt have long enough to make moves, he was a late hire, behine every other team in the schedule of things. he didnt get hired till march, there for screwed us free agency, screwed us in the draft for the most part. it was bad times for the raiders. but i believe art would have us better off now then where we are. cause those guys had to practice for art, they had to work, you wonder why they quit. hard work, no payoff. art would have his own guys in here now, and we’d be a tougher team. art preached practice, lamont didnt like that, porter, moss, langston walker. they didnt like to practice. so they gave up on him. not the raider way.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:57 pm
BHP, Al’s weaknes is he always wanted to be a gambler and called a genius afterward. He thought having Kitten was a stroke of genius. the only stroking that turned out was Kitten doing the stroking to get the job.
Kitten is a punk. And I am glad Al punked him at the firing. A coach may suck but dont ever diss the Raiders.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:57 pm
WTF was up with Aso getting abused by Gonzalez???
December 1st, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Say what you will about Art but his career record is better than Kitten.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:00 pm
nnamdii is not physical.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Hey Chis,
Do me a favor and look up the top 5 college team this year. Dont judge on how they won, judge on how they lost. The only team that lost by more than a TD is the Sooners. Overrated.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Gonzales too big for Nnamdi. Can’t Jam a Powerforward when you are a guard.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:02 pm
art won 50 games. kiffin won 5
art lost an afc championship game 51-3 a week after bo blew his hip out.
kiffin- beat denver once, beat kc 2 times lol. 5 wins. in 20 games.
art went 2-14 in 06 with nothing, kiffin was on the same path this year with more talent.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:04 pm
i still think huff should be covering these tight ends. not makeing tackles on the run against running backs who have huge lanes to run through. i like how rob ryan plays his free safety 20 yards off the ball, now we know what stu was ranting about.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Nnamdi didn’t understand how to cover a TE, he was letting him get his hands on him and push him around instead mirroring him. He knew he couldn’t outrun him so just mirror him and break on the ball. He just muscled Nnamdi because of bad technigue. he was covering like does a WR and you can’t do that. T Howard wuld’ve been better or better yet Huff.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Puhleeze, Stu? Eugene and Baker seem fine with it.
And so will Branch you just have to be aggressive.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:12 pm
see if we ran a 3-4,
re-g-warren
dt-terdell sands
le tommy kelly
rolb- burgess
ilb-thomas howard-ricky brown
ilb-kirk morrison-jon alston
lolb- trevor scott-sam williams
cb-nammdii-chris johnson
safety- huff- wilson.
we havent the depth for it but we’d be better suited to for quick throws making our man to man corners more effective. blitzing would be more effective than it is now.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Huff is smaller than Aso and he more than held his own. If we stop Tony we win, also that fake FG and dropped int by Gibril hurt us.
Kiffin is weak and will prove it at UT. He didn’t even call plays at SC and he is going to be competing for recruits with Saban, Miles, Meyer, Spurrier, and Petrino. I give him 3yrs tops.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Josh we already do it. All you have to do is stand Burgess up and it’s a 3/4, #91 is really just a LB/RE to give different looks.
Now that Burgess is back you’ll see more and more of it.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 6:53 pm
KK I feel Mr Davis was desparate to get new blood in and new ideas. He saw the kid as a link to the future and was trying to jump ahead of the game.
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Well that’s a convienent excuse, and what good is that?
What about the other 5 Head Coaches in the last 6 years?
December 1st, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Severe that’s generous if you ask me. This kid is on a short leash he doesn’t even have a buy out. I think he signed a junk contract. So that either could get rid of the other if things don’t go well.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm
You don’t want much do ya’? KK what do you think happened? since I’m making excuses.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:24 pm
BHP
That’s no excuse, he is supposed to be a cerebral player. At halftime an adjustment should have been made.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:25 pm
I think he was desperate, Sarkasian and the other candidates turned him down.
He was late, as usual. Bad judgement. Mismanagement. That’s what I think.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Severe, what player?
December 1st, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Man, what’s up with the Jags? Man, they stink.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:30 pm
I’m disappointed. All of a sudden Asomugha sucks? All of a sudden Asomugha isn’t physical? Get the fcuk out of here. He’s the best corner in the league. He only allowed two passes while other corners allow two or more catches EVERY game. He is smaller than Tony Gonzales, but I bet if you put them 1 on 1 again, Nnamdi would kill. All I got to say is hate more, please.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:32 pm
I agree, so what excuse was I making? It was obviously bad judgement. But I also think the kid conned him. JMHO OK
December 1st, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Ao
I totally agree. That talk is sooooo friggin ridiculous.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Al Davis The Hall of Fame Boss of the Raiders, is not supposed to be cornered and conned by a kid.
If he does, he’s obviously slippin. Time to retire.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Ao, don’t be silly no one is insinuating that. He just is not used to covering TE’s, very simple.
Cvering a TE is very different than covering a WR and he just used the wrong technigue………….period
December 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm
nnamdii shouldnt have to cover tight ends lol, hes 6-2 210. gonzo is 6-4 255. why did we sign gibril. if nnamdii still has to cover his guy also. huff never had much trouble with gonzo if i remember right.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Cable is a idiot.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Ao,
No Aso doesn’t suck but he got used like an Al Davis bib on Sunday. You sound like a fanatic that can’t admit when ur boy had a bad game. Tony G worked him like Al Davis walker and that is all there is to it. Bob Sanders is grossly undersized and doesn’t make excuses, neither does Burgess, its called being a defensive leader and making plays.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Well that kid just did it again, and half the people in here are conned by that same kid as well as the media. No one is perfect, Mr Davis ignored warning signs and got burned.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Mosley,
We use Gibril terribly wrong, we basically run a 4-4 with him as the extra LB. He is in the box 90% of the time. It must be tough for him to be 6′0″ 210 taking on tackles, guards, and fullbacks.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm
thats why id trade nnamdii for a kings ransom. try to get all you can before you get nothing for him. like with a guy named charles woodson, who actually can catch and tackle. nnamdii has issues with both.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm
What about the other 5 coaches in the last 6 years. Was he conned by them too?
You guys are really………&%$#*
You have no problem calling out Nnamdi though. But the 80 yr old GM presiding over the game’s laughingstock…….do you fellas want to win, or just keep deluding yourselves and ignoring the problem?
Al Davis Hires All the Players
Al Davis Hires All the Coaches
Player turnover, Coaching turnover, same result.
Why, if not Al Davis?
December 1st, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Bhp
Kiffins 1st season I predict he wins 4 games……what about u???
December 1st, 2008 at 7:51 pm
PinkHolePriest,
With all your wisdom and knowledge that you think you have why is it your unable to see where this team is at or where its going?
Sooner or later its inevitable you will remove your head from your anus and join the rest of the thinking world.
How do you wakeup every damn day and defend this organization blindly like a damn fool ?
December 1st, 2008 at 7:52 pm
oh id can mr d also lol, hes 99 percent of the issue kk
December 1st, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Kk
LOL, Kiffin “recruited” both Walker and Hall
December 1st, 2008 at 7:53 pm
KK,
This dumbell doesnt care about those facts he will slurp AL’s goo like a stupid sheep no matter how pathetic he looks….period
# KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm
What about the other 5 coaches in the last 6 years. Was he conned by them too?
You guys are really………&%$#*
You have no problem calling out Nnamdi though. But the 80 yr old GM presiding over the game’s laughingstock…….do you fellas want to win, or just keep deluding yourselves and ignoring the problem?
Al Davis Hires All the Players
Al Davis Hires All the Coaches
Player turnover, Coaching turnover, same result.
Why, if not Al Davis?
December 1st, 2008 at 7:54 pm
i like nnamdii, but he deserves to be on a winner now. he works hard, i doubt he sits around the complex and plays video games and pool. we all know nnamdii is the most prepared raider every week. but if we franchise him every year what good is that. thats alot of cash. and mr davis has pissed him off to the point where nnamdii probably wont sign a long term deal here in oakland.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:54 pm
What trade Nnamdi?? I’m sorry are kidding. Theree are no corners like that kid. He does it ALL , he has no weaknesses and I would say that about very few players in the history of this great game. I compare to Rod Woodson and Mike Haynes. The two best corners I’ve seen since Willie Brown. CW has better hands and prbably tackles better but he can’t cover like Nnamdi. Nnamdi rarely sees the ball but he catches 8 out of the every ten balls he gets his hands on. Which isn’t much because NO ONE throws at him. Like they threw at Charles all the time.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Cable’s fake FG call is getting all the media play, but the real story of this game and the remainder of the season should be an evaluation of Russell’s future as an NFL QB.
The hold-out can no longer be used as an excuse.
The offensive line sucks – and so do the WRs – Russell doesn’t have alot to work with.
But it’s easy to see why some people are starting to think Russell might be another Alex Smith.
Russell’s accuracy has been horrible. His release is long and slow. He doesn’t appear to have good game awareness.
But it’s the lack of accuracy that’s really becoming a huge concern and should scare the hell out of every Raider fan interested in seeing this team turn things around.
The shortness of his career so far and the lack of a supporting cast makes it difficult to effectively evaluate Russell and project his future — but there’s already enough evidence to suggest it might not be what Raider fans are hoping for.
I hope I’m wrong, but if yesterday’s game was any indication Russell could easily turn out to be a huge BUST.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Cable is going to coach far less games have to deal with injuries to his star RB, QB, DE, starting LB, C and changing starters at CB and FS but may still equal kiffins 1st season win total.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:58 pm
i know the chiefs beat us with no shut down corners. i think nnamdii is the best corner in the league, noone questions that except champ bailey. but why pay the dude year to year to help us win 3 to 4 games. if nnamdii played for the giants a team with a real pass rush he pick off 15 passes a season, kinda like lester and mike haynes did with us when we had long, alzado, townsend, and everyone else. nnamdii deserves better than this.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:03 pm
” 5 coaches in six years…”
The thing about this that makes me laugh is all those coaches, save for Art Shell, were given other opportunities as head coaches elsewhere, so all this” Al is to blame” talk is B.S. the guy gave an opportunity to coaches who maybe he shouldn’t have given the chance do, but that’s what guys like him do when they’ve set trends and been an innovator like Al has..the coaches weren’t great, but Al had the balls and independent thinking to take the chance..too many of you moronic, so called “Raider fans” let the media do the thinking for you..if they continue to say Al/The Raiders are “the most terrible, etc.etc” day after day, only the truly GULLIBLE will start to believe it, and only the GULLIBLE count the last six years of a 40+ year franchise that has produced multiple winners…why do other teams snatch up the ex-coaches AL has gotten rid off? Why don’t they conduct their own searches before relying on second hand info? Because they don’t have the BALLS to make the call before everyone else sees what’s up..
December 1st, 2008 at 8:04 pm
No, we want to lose every game every year.
What the hell do you think we’re here for?
Who doesn’t want to win?
The same goofy ass questions everyday.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:07 pm
some of this has to be players executing assignments, al cant do that for them. players wanting to be the best players they can be, ala nnamdii, if we had 53 nnamdii’s we’d win a few games more.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Cable is a dolt. He makes Jow Bugel look like Einstein. He gave up 13 points two gimme field goals and a 7 point turnover. That’s 13 points and the game.
He coached the Raiders right out of the game. They should put him out of his misery and fire him now. Then hold a raffle and let a fan coach the team. It worked for Whoppie coaching the Knicks in the movie Eddie. It sure can’t hurt given the crappy job the Cable guy has done.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:09 pm
There is another overall #1 draft pick playing right now. About this time in the season last year, a year and a half into his career, people were calling Mario Williams the biggest bust in NFL history. Well, he looks pretty damn good out there right now. And he plays RDE, not Q. Anyone even breathing the word bust regarding Jamarcus is an ignorant ass wipe plain and simple. Not one NFL person would remotely agree this kid is a bust. Sorry.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:10 pm
So do the rest of the guy’s busting they’re ass. As soon as they get tired of losing they’ll win but you will never get there. Saying stuff like “Nnamdi doesn’t deserve this” The more great players you get the closer you are to winning………..period
You back up a Brink’s truck and pay him. As a sign that you intend to win………….period
December 1st, 2008 at 8:13 pm
russell is no bust, hes just learning, give him a chance and a solid running game. i dig the kids composure, he’s laid back, me makes good throws one week, then the next week is off a bit, but before the denver game he was lucky to get the ball out of his hands before he got sacked, or if he completed a pass theres a holding call. let alone a false start. russell is not the problem. kwame harris and cornell green are the issues, then our wideouts.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:15 pm
and i also think our defense would be steller if our offense could score more than 13 points a game. points win games.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:15 pm
One thing from yesterday that isn’t on the coaches…
Tyler Thigpen continuosly running that QB sneek right up the middle…
KIRK, WHERE THE F ARE YOU, BRUH? Didn’t you watch the film on this kid? Maybe the weakside is best suited for you Kirk, for the thousandth time..
December 1st, 2008 at 8:15 pm
We don’t trade Aso because with a REAL coach and a REAL GM we could turn this team around. If Al Davis does what a business man should do this team would be a contender. A smart businessman doesn’t know all of the answers or even pretend to, a smart businessman surrounds himself with people that can answer all the question he could ask.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Actually RaiderFan in Oakland, all those ass wipes that want to talk about the last six years somehow forget the year before we were playing for a world championship. Somehow that never enters the conversation.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:18 pm
# Oakglenn’s Revenge Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 8:09 pm
There is another overall #1 draft pick playing right now. About this time in the season last year, a year and a half into his career, people were calling Mario Williams the biggest bust in NFL history. Well, he looks pretty damn good out there right now. And he plays RDE, not Q. Anyone even breathing the word bust regarding Jamarcus is an ignorant ass wipe plain and simple. Not one NFL person would remotely agree this kid is a bust. Sorry.
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Looks like the last “greatest bust in NFL draft history” just forced a fumble to seal a W. Funny that.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Offseason to do list:
Free Agency: LT, WR, LB
Draft: RT, RB (A James Rodgers type), DT (2), WR, LE..
and, despite the terrible play call, which instantly sounded a death knell for Cable, he stands a 51/49 percent chance of returning as of now…
December 1st, 2008 at 8:20 pm
OakGlenn JR’s not even close to being a legit NFL QB. I rather see him making decision errors vs his accuracy problems. You can coach him up on decision making but you cant coach accuracy too much. His mechanics suck and those are also coachable but he is closer to being a bust than a star.
He needs to lose 15-20 lbs and lose the ear bling during games.
FYI…Brian Baldinger said he was pretty much a bust at this point….sorry
December 1st, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Time for Al to bite the bullet and humble himself like Jerry Jones did a few years back when he went after Parcells.
Al needs to reach out to a strong, respected veteran coach who could come in here and garner instant respect from these players and give them a signal that the BULLSHAT is over.
These guys are not being developed and talent is going to waste.
That Fake FG was one of the most idiotic, asinine calls I have ever seen in a game. It ranks right up there with trying a 76 yard FG. (Which happened to be called by another ignorant Raiders HC)
Al needs to clear the building of STUPID and bring in some football people like he had in the Gruden days.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Is Cowher’s success attributable to Dick LeBeau?
December 1st, 2008 at 8:24 pm
morrison would be better in a 3-4 not a 4-3 defense as a mlb…
December 1st, 2008 at 8:24 pm
If Houston plays like they are playing tonight, they will beat the Raiders out of the building.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:25 pm
i think so
December 1st, 2008 at 8:27 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 8:20 pm
FYI…Brian Baldinger said he was pretty much a bust at this point….sorry
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Brian Baldinger, the guy who went undrafted, never played a down in his life and is now a Fox Sports analyst??? That Brian Baldinger??? Or is there some other Brian Baldinger who actually accomplished something, that I should know about??
December 1st, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Good thing the Lions aren’t on the schedule. The Raiders would be the team to let them off the hook.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Damn Jerry, you sound as disgusted as threst of us with this team, but I can’t tell if you’re a bitter pi$$ed off fan like me or one of those guys that loves to hate the Raiders and takes huge pride in writing nasty articles about them. Either way, however, you speak the truth, and to answer your question, No, had Janikowski, who is ,well, Janikowski, caught that pitch I didn’t see any possible way he could have picked up the first down. It was a complete bone head call, and, all said and done, ended up costing us the game. However, had he caught it at least, I think we still would have won. It is as Cable said, a defense must be judged on the amount of points that they give up, and ours gave us almost as many as they gave up. As far as the KoolAid bar goes, any realistic Raider fan has dropped the Kool Aid and switched to Gin. I know I have anyway.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:31 pm
OakGlenn, if NFL accomplishments mean something in regard to evaluating the game you have zero credibilty, but you already had none.
Hey Oak was Howard Cosell a great NFL player? How about John Madden? You get my point….or maybe you dont.
At seasons end Im guessing many NFL people will be calling JR a bust and many more will say he has no chance in Oakland in this circu atmosphere, doesnt look good either way you want to look at it but you have rose colored glasses….sorry
December 1st, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Steve Slaton looks dangerous
December 1st, 2008 at 8:32 pm
circus*
December 1st, 2008 at 8:32 pm
As bad as things are around here, to watch Joke-sonville, who was supposed to vie for the Super Bowl, just give quit, is awful. Maybe Jack Del Rio is coming here. Dude played high school football in Hayward.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:32 pm
K Rock
Sadly, thats probably true.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:33 pm
OR, brien did accomplish something. He has a show with a guy who did accomplish something in the NFL: Sterling Sharpe. lol
December 1st, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Jerry Porter just caught a pass.
He has now equaled the WR output of the entire Raiders organization on Sunday.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I heard a rumor (that was more than likely just that, a rumor) that Bill Cower was a candidate to come here. BUt i think I remember on CBS pre game show during the whole Kiffin debacle, James Brown said to Cowher, “If your phone rings and the calller ID says Al Davis do you answer it?” And I seem to remember him promptly saying, “No.” and then they all laughed about it like the question was a joke wth an obvious answer, and asking such a well respected man as him, it probably was.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Mistabrown Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Hey Oak was Howard Cosell a great NFL player? How about John Madden? You get my point….or maybe you dont.
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No, I have no idea what your point is, but you have never made a lick of sense at any time on this blog so that does not surprise me. Once again, missed a brain posts something so stupid, tho I should let it go, I just can’t. Howard Cosell would never have called a player a bust 10 games into his career. But you probably don’t know who Cosell is. And please give an example of Cosell calling a rookie a bust. John Madden was a successful coach who won world championships and he never did it. But you still think they tried that fake FG on third down in the lst quarter of a game right????
December 1st, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Nnamdi is expendable, Russell is a bust, The Stanford Coach is our savior. Fans have the right to be fickle. But
Al Davis Hires All the Players
Al Davis Hires All the Coaches
Player turnover, Coaching turnover, same result.
Why, if not Al Davis?
December 1st, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Wasn’t Madden a damn good O lineman? He played with Shell didn’t he?
December 1st, 2008 at 8:41 pm
I’m not sure that was before my time.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Getting someone like Cowher would require Al humbling himself and making a lot of concessions.
It could be done, but its all up to Al.
I don’t think it would be Cowher, however, because he will most likely end up in Cleveland.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 8:04 pm
No, we want to lose every game every year.
What the hell do you think we’re here for?
Who doesn’t want to win?
The same goofy ass questions everyday.
Darwin2004, do I have to slap a hair lip on you? Or are you going to quit being a pompous a$$hole?
December 1st, 2008 at 8:43 pm
KoolKell, for the first time since I’ve come on this blog you’re king sense, but I do have one bone to pick with you about an earlier comment of your’s. Did you say Higgins was the dumbest player in the NFL?
December 1st, 2008 at 8:44 pm
making sense* not king sense, youhave a long way to go to get there lol
December 1st, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Actually Madden was a very very poor offensive lineman , hence why he went into coaching.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Madden -
A football standout in high school, he then played junior college football at the College of San Mateo before transferring to California Polytechnic State University in San Luis Obispo, California, where he played both offense and defense. He won all-conference honors at offensive tackle. In addition, he was a catcher on Cal Poly’s baseball team. Madden was drafted in the 21st round (244th overall) by the National Football League’s Philadelphia Eagles in 1958, but a knee injury in training camp a year later ended his playing career.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:46 pm
OakGland you did miss the point as usual. You said “No NFL” person would call him a bust and I gave you one.
I gave you 2 examples of respected NFL “persons” as you call them that were not “NFL stars” as you put it.
You have sh|t for brains, do you even know that?
December 1st, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Burress is going to jail for 3 and 1/2 years mandatory minimum for Class C Felony in NY, if convicted.
Thug.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:49 pm
What would expect Cower to say, be cause he was being baited. He knew the intent was t embarrass Oakland and he obliged. Stupid if you ask me, you never say never. And when you show respect you recieve it.
Like the immature kid did in his interview, you never do that, it only caused certain people to ask serious questions about his character and what he must be hiding. You never know how people feel about the person you just embarrassed. You have your job why try and embarrass someone else who can’t respond and has nothing to do with what you’re doing. Just move on…………and grow up.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Actually Madden was a decent player at the collegiate level. He is better than I give him credit for.
As for missed a brain, I still have no idea what he is talking about, but keep researching the fact that you think we would try a fake FG on third down. In the first half of a game. What a moron.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:54 pm
JERRY!
Quick question, did Lester Hayes ever get his Super Bowl ring back?!
http://www.sportslawnews.com/archive/Articles%202000/superbowlring.htm
December 1st, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Mistabrown Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 8:46 pm
OakGland you did miss the point as usual. You said “No NFL” person would call him a bust and I gave you one.
I gave you 2 examples of respected NFL “persons” as you call them that were not “NFL stars” as you put it.
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Where did I use the term NFL stars???? I was saying earlier, there is a program called ‘READING IS FUN-DAMENTAL!! Missed a brain, you might want to try it!! Not only would it help your terrible reading skills, and your poor diction, but it probably would help you string one or two coherent thoughts together. Sorry to say, there is little it can do for your most likely terrible personal hygiene.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:56 pm
BHP, your Darwin2004/IMOROM ways are going to get you in trouble. Just like they have in the past. Stop acting like you know more than anybody else, because that’s all it is an ACT.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Dang Nnamdi21, that’s a crazy story. But all the aches and pains the team went through to get that ring, you’d think he could stand a little more just on a flight home. I’d sell a fckn kidney before my superbowl ring.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Anyone ith any degree of objectivity and is not doing a show. Would never call someone a bust in his rookie who’s competing as well as Russell.
If he were throwing 3 int’s every atart and noty competing yeah maybe. Russell has had vey good showings in almst half his starts something many Hall of famers didn’t. Can you remember Gannon’s first ten starts, they wanted to switch him to defense. The best Qb’s have play worse than Russel has in his first 13 starts.
It’s mind boggling to have to defend this kid after every bad game when, if he plays well these same people dissing him disappear.
Man you should’ve seen Terry Bradshaw early in his career his own coach hated him. Even after he had won SB’s. Yet he’s in the HOF
December 1st, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Reading back on my last post, I just reflected on how much that actually says about NFL players, I think the fans want it 10 times more than the players,(at least in the Raiders case) that’s sad. Or maybe I’m just crazy, that’s always a possibility too I guess, lol.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Dude, what is your obsession with me?
Go let your dog pee on your shoe.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Apparently lester the molester never wore the ring. If he had he would never be able to get it off with all the stickum on his hands.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:06 pm
BHP
I think what it is most of all is the fact that this team is so damn sick of losing that we don’t want to wait forever for him to develop. And then we see the Matt Ryans and Joe Flaccos of the world and wander why we can’t have that. But it is best put as KoolKell said above I think.
“Al Davis Hires All the Players
Al Davis Hires All the Coaches
Player turnover, Coaching turnover, same result.
Why, if not Al Davis?”
December 1st, 2008 at 9:08 pm
RaiderFan in Oakland… The reason all of Al’s previous hires (or fires, if you will) got jobs after coaching in Oakland is that the rest of the world realized a couple of those guys could actually coach, while at the same time smiling because they realized that, if Al Davis wasn’t such a jerk to work for, they would have never gotten the chance to hire the guy in the first place.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Priest, anyone who questions his accuracy is just a flat out knucklehead. As I wrote earlier today, his first pass goes right thru Lelies hands. His last pass goes right thru Zacks hands. Either of those are caught and it’s a different game.
Now, in the receivers defense, lst year QB’s don’t see the field that well, and have the habit of getting their receivers killed out there. That happened a couple of times yesterday. But all things considered, Jamarcus has done nothing to warrant me thinking he is not worth the overall number one, from last year. And I will be very critical of him. One thing I think he can do to help both himself and the team, is take off running and get some yardage every once in awhile. That will keep LB’s in, and create more space for his receivers when he improvises.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Voldemort
Yes, I said JLH was the dumbest player in the NFL
Some of his decisions in the return game are ones a 14 yr old kid knows better than. Like running all the way across the field to field a kickoff that’s headed out of bounds at the 5 yrd line.
Catching punts inside the 5 yd line
Not breaking on a ball Sunday that was a sure TD.
I grew up playing football in the streets like kids used to do. Any kid would know better than to do the things JLH has been doing on occasion.
Sure he can run, like all Davis’ projects, but he has no football instincts, imo.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Madden tore his knee up his rookie year with Philadelphia.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Russell cannot be expected to be mentioned in the same breath as Ryan or Flacco because:
1. He’s a tub of lard that has no stamina
2. His greedy holdout put him light years behind where he could be if he had just signed and played from the beginning.
3. He’s playing on a team that has had ….how many coaching changes in the last 5 years?
4. He plays for a rotten fader team.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:13 pm
As you wish. Matt Ryan is legit, very rare what he’s doing. Everyone else, Flacco is in a good situation with playmakers. Russell is dealing with too many inconsistencies to be consistent.
The rest I don’t see anything special. Thigpen was horrible, but he had Gonzales and Bowe make some plays for him. And we still ahould’ve won.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Spider
How was that cold dish of revenge last week punka$$ donkey fan. Still got the taste in your mouth? take a hike .
December 1st, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Give him 20 – 30 starts and I gaurantee you he will change minds about who is in front of whom.
He just has a lot to learn just like most NFL players early in their careers.
Once he gets consistent play around him he’ll be much more consistent, you’ll see.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Black Hole, what about Cutler? He’s only been in the league a year longer than russel. Oh, BTW you guys could have drafted and ruined him…but you picked? Was it Huff? My fader memory isn’t all that good.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Cutler, had his struggles a plenty and sometimes still struggles.
So what’s yur point or are you making mine.
Give Russell the same amount of time with the weapons Cutler has and you’ll see what I mean.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Failed Coach fired, Hope springs eternal with a new Coach.
Failed Coach fired, Hope springs eternal with a new Coach.
Failed Coach fired, Hope springs eternal with a new Coach.
Failed Coach fired, Hope springs eternal with a new Coach.
Failed Coach fired, Hope springs eternal with a new Coach.
Failed Coach fired, Hope springs eternal with a new Coach……. etc etc etc.
Now it’s Jim Harbough turn to be our savior
December 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Guess again. I think we win this game.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Interesting to see that this week’s game against San Diego is being shown in 3-D to focus groups.
http://www.sportsfanlive.com/web/poll?pollId=6820969
December 1st, 2008 at 9:31 pm
ung ung ung
December 1st, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Jamarcus needs to hang out with Donovan McNabb in the offseason. Maybe he can learn what the meaning of prime physical condition is. Nobody is questioning his heart, or fire, but holmes has got to shedd the bling while in uniform.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Cutler, had his struggles a plenty and sometimes still struggles.
So what’s yur point or are you making mine.
Give Russell the same amount of time with the weapons Cutler has and you’ll see what I mean.
The difference is:
1. Cutler has a special confidence that Russell lacks. Thus, Russell will regress more than Cutler ever did/will.
2. Russell does not have the coaching staff to get him to his potential.
3. Russell is more into the prestige of being an NFL QB than to being a winning NFL QB.
4. He’s to fat to be a good NFL QB
5. He plays for the worst orginization in the NFL.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
August 18th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
His father says he’ll play next game. the kid is chomping at the bit. His father and I talked a lot about Davis and the Raiders.
He also said that Tampa was courting Shields as if he was Beyonce’. they were sure he would be there when they picked in the 5th. He meantioned 2 other teams as well but I can’t recall because we talked so long.
We kind of hit it off real cool, going to go to games together. So we’ll see.
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Sheilds never did play huh BHP, lol, too funny.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Guess again. I think we win this game.
Be careful drinking tha koolaid. It’s a tad bit tainted.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:36 pm
We’ll soon see wont we.
Adios, sports fans.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:38 pm
You fans don’t know how hard it is to play QB in the NFL. I need that extra cushion for when those big bad defensive players knock me on my tush.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Uh! what’s point KK?? It’s not his fault.
Man what do you guy’s archive this stuff?? interesting.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:41 pm
I just thought with all your “insider’ info, you would have been on the money. lol
December 1st, 2008 at 9:43 pm
On the money, are you nuts? about what??
What did I say that wasn’t on the money?? As if I care.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:45 pm
It’s self explanatory, but forget it.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:46 pm
And further more what’s so inside info about that post. It’s just a conversation I had with a players father.
Inside info, what inside info?
December 1st, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Voldemort Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 9:06 pm
BHP
I think what it is most of all is the fact that this team is so damn sick of losing that we don’t want to wait forever for him to develop. And then we see the Matt Ryans and Joe Flaccos of the world and wander why we can’t have that.
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Voldemort brings up two interesting points here. lst and foremost is the frustrations of younger fans who feel players should instantly develop like they are microwave popcorn, and fans who realize how hard it is for these elements to come together. That is where a lot of clashes on this blog emanate from.
With regards to both Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco, you have to realize, the Falcons were in the NFC Championship Game in 2004. They still have some good players on that team. No doubt Matt Ryan is an athletic excellent QB, but Michael Turner will most likely win the rushing title this year. Think the #1 rushing attack doesn’t help a QB?
Baltimore, on the other hand won 13 games in 2006. They knew they were just an excellent QB away from being a very very good team, and they traded up to get one. It was a very wise move for them to do that because Joe Flacco is going to be an excellent player for them. But remember they have Willis McGehee and Pro Bowler Todd Heap to go with a very solid Offensive line that lost Hall of Fame candidate Jon Ogden.
If you put Tim Tebow on Detroit next year, do you think that team is going to go from 0 wins to 14 wins??? That is the problem with bad teams. It takes awhile for them to become winners. We had hoped WE had just turned that corner. Obviously, we hadn’t.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:47 pm
I’m done
Adios.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:13 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
August 18th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
His father says he’ll play next game. the kid is chomping at the bit. His father and I talked a lot about Davis and the Raiders.
He also said that Tampa was courting Shields as if he was Beyonce’. they were sure he would be there when they picked in the 5th. He meantioned 2 other teams as well but I can’t recall because we talked so long.
We kind of hit it off real cool, going to go to games together. So we’ll see.
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Sheilds never did play huh BHP, lol, too funny.
Actually, the Raiders placed Shields on IR. Clearly they did to Shields what they did the previous year to Mike Bush: essentially red shirted him. Arman thought he was going to play, but them Mike wanted to play too, and thought he would be activated. You can’t blame BHP for this info. He could be completely telling the truth. I think it is kind of tacky that you would try to discredit him this way. You should be able to do better than this.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Memo to Cable…
On 4th and short, give the ball to Fargas, not the 245 lb Michael Bush.
That way we are gauranteed a good draft pick next year.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:38 pm
PS, you don’t remember the “Refrigerator”, do you! lol
December 1st, 2008 at 10:43 pm
LMFAO!!!!!!!
Kiffin already being accused of violating NCAA rules at Tenn.
rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Welcome-to-the-SEC-cheater-Signed-Ol-Ball-Co?urn=ncaaf,125819
He will be gone in 2 years tops.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Welcome to the SEC, cheater. Signed, Ol’ Ball Coach.
By Matt Hinton
Welcome to Tennessee, Lane Kiffin. Your grace period ended 12 hours ago:
South Carolina’s Steve Spurrier questioned whether new Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin broke an NCAA rule when he called a recruit a day before he was introduced as the Volunteers’ new coach.
According to a story published on VolQuest.com, part of the Rivals’ network, Kiffin and former Gamecocks recruiting coordinator David Reaves called Tampa running back Jarvis Giles on Sunday and left him voice messages.
“You’re supposed to have passed the NCAA test and be on board, I think. But maybe he was just calling him as an interested observer,” Spurrier said today, laughing. “I don’t know. But technically to be able to recruit you’re supposed to pass the NCAA test.”
Wow, kid. Unless you’re Nick Saban, it usually takes at least a winning season before opposing coaches start accusing you of recruiting violations. They’re already accepting you in the club! (If you’re going to get accused, anyway, just make sure your next alleged violation really counts).
Meanwhile, Kiffin was determined to show during his introduction today that he may be naive and unprepared to lead a major program, but he’s not backing down: Echoing Jim Tressel’s “In 310 days in Ann Arbor” speech at Ohio State, Kiffin told reporters “It’s going to be fun hearing ‘Rocky Top’ after we beat Florida next year.” Cute, but a little forced.
I’m not saying Tennessee’s not going to beat Florida next year in Gainesville. But has Lane Kiffin ever heard “Rocky Top”? Played 200 times over the course of three hours? He’s not from Tennessee, you know; he hasn’t been immunized to the repetition, or bred to appreciate the intricate sublimity of “Corn from a jar.” Win or lose, by the end of the game, he’ll be calling his agent about NFL openings just to get away from it.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Higgins: Kiffin unqualified to coach Vols
BY RON HIGGINS The Commercial Appeal
Originally published 09:17 a.m., November 27, 2008
Updated 09:17 a.m., November 27, 2008
If Tennessee athletic director Mike Hamilton hires unemployed 33-year-old Lane Kiffin as the Vols’ next football coach, he’s basically sending the following message to Tennessee fans:
“I’m cheap and I’m easy.”
Cheap because Kiffin, fired by the NFL’s Raiders earlier this season as their head coach, has no buyout. Easy because Hamilton doesn’t have to sweat during the Christmas holidays about making a hire to replace the departing Phillip Fulmer.
I’ve seen this head coach search before, circa Ole Miss in December 2004, when the Rebels were sweet-talked the week before Christmas into hiring the disaster known as Ed Orgeron.
We know how that horror movie turned out, don’t we? Three seasons of players being verbally abused, a third of Coach Ohmygawd recruiting classes quitting or becoming ineligible, and the rest of the SEC wondering what the Ole Miss administration was smoking the day they hired Coach 0-for-the-SEC.
Of course, Hamilton is denying he’s offered Kiffin the job, though sources close to the situation are leaking more information than grounded oil tankers gush bubbling crude.
There are a few reasons why Kiffin isn’t the right hire, and they are more than enough for Hamilton to look elsewhere.
Kiffin has never accomplished anything as a head coach. All his rep comes from his time as Southern Cal’s supposed offensive coordinator in 2005 and 2006, but USC didn’t win the national titles in those years as it did the previous two seasons.
Also, play-calling was shared with quarterbacks coach Steve Sarkisian, with USC head coach Pete Carroll having veto power.
So just how brilliant is the boy wonder Kiffin? Consider that the University of Washington, a Pac-10 school, has an opening, and they haven’t even given Kiffin, someone who knows the league, a sniff.
You know the rest of the SEC is hoping Tennessee hires a 33-year-old, who just happens to be just a year older than former Vols quarterback Peyton Manning (Hey, can we get Peytie Pie to be the next coach?).
Sticking Kiffin in the SEC’s all-star lineup of coaches that includes four coaches who have won national championships (Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Les Miles, Urban Meyer) and another with an unbeaten season (Auburn’s Tommy Tuberville) would be like tossing a goldfish into a pool of piranhas.
Hamilton’s hiring Kiffin would be an admission that Tennessee is a second-rate program, not on par with Alabama and Florida, the SEC’s powers du jour.
When Alabama was shopping for a coach after firing Mike Shula (in some respects a Kiffin clone), Alabama athletic director Mal Moore knew his job was on the line if he didn’t sign Saban. Moore, with an open checkbook, knew he couldn’t come home to Tuscaloosa if Saban, then the Dolphins’ coach, wasn’t on the plane with him from Miami.
When Florida was seeking a coach after firing overmatched Ron Zook, Florida outbid mighty Notre Dame for Urban Meyer, coach of the unbeaten University of Utah.
So if I’m Hamilton, I’d make either Texas Tech’s Mike Leach or North Carolina’s Butch Davis write in blood that they wouldn’t want to coach Tennessee before giving up on them.
They are the type of innovative and proven coaches Tennessee deserves, not a 33-year-old who supposedly wants to hire (are you ready?) old USC staff coaching pal Orgeron.
Thirty-three years old? Phillip Fulmer probably has jockey shorts that age.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:33 am
koolkell=mrs,chaos hates to lose,JRuss needs touch,Dmac needs to JUKE,some kind of MOVE,Justin will finish his career short yardage,Huff should have been on Tony G,Cable is trying hard,AL needs a GM,and the D needs a MLB and a fresh concept RAIDERS!!!!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:38 am
K-Rock’s Higgins quote:
“Hamilton’s hiring Kiffin would be an admission that Tennessee is a second-rate program, not on par with Alabama and Florida, the SEC’s powers du jour.”
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Feature this…
rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Welcome-to-the-SEC-cheater-Signed-Ol-Ball-Co?urn=ncaaf,125819
“South Carolina’s Steve Spurrier questioned whether new Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin broke an NCAA rule when he called a recruit a day before he was introduced as the Volunteers’ new coach.
According to a story published on VolQuest.com, part of the Rivals’ network, Kiffin and former Gamecocks recruiting coordinator David Reaves called Tampa running back Jarvis Giles on Sunday and left him voice messages.”
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It also says:
“Meanwhile, Kiffin was determined to show during his introduction today that he may be naive and unprepared to lead a major program, but he’s not backing down”
Ha!
It begins…
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:41 am
JERRY!!!
What about Buress to the Raiders next year?
Jumping on the “hooligans automatically get considered by the Raiders” cliche.
He and Walker could go to Vegas to celebrate…
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:43 am
“Chargers collapse goes well beyond coaching”
Ah ha ha ha!!!
//sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-morningrush120108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:44 am
Damn!
I’ll try to link again…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-morningrush120108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:03 am
[...] Cable: No regrets about fake FG By Jerry McDonald – NFL Writer Monday, December 1st, 2008 at 4:14 pm in Oakland Raiders. News, notes and analysis from Tom Cable’s weekly press briefing Monday, the day after a 20-13 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs: – Cable again stressed “full responsibility” for the fake field goal attempt which resulted in a 67-yard touchdown for the Chiefs’ Maurice Leggett, but didn’t second-guess himself. “I don’t regret it. I don’t think you can,” Cable said. “Otherwise I don’t think you make it in the first place. So there’s no sense in doing that.” – The Raiders coach faced the music with no sense of emotion either way, undertanding he was in the line of fire because the play didn’t work. “It worked every time (in practice), and that’s the shame of it all,” Cable said. “But it’s like I mentioned a few weeks ago, if you take a chance like that and it works, everybody thinks you’re a genius. When it doesn’t everyone wants to chew on your butt. “So chew.” At the risk of biting off more than I can chew, you can’t compare the Janikowski fake to the one in which Jon Alston raced 22 yards as an upback against the Jets. For one thing, Alston is a former high school running back, is extremely athletic and fast enough to have run down Reggie Bush while a linebacker/safety at Stanford. Janikowski is, well, Janikowski. Another thing _ the Jets were better or equal to the Raiders, while the Chiefs most definitely were not. When the fake didn’t work against Kansas City, it provided life to the Chiefs. – If the Janikowski fake worked every time the Raiders tried it during practice over the past two years, that doesn’t say much for whoever was playing the right edge during practice. “Aw, man, Seabass got me again! C’mon coach, you’re killin’ us with that play! – I realize I’m not looking at the play with a trained eye, but has anyone seen a replay that suggested that if Janikowski had caught the ball, he would have successfully run a good 17 yards (seven yards behind the line of scrimmage plust the 10 for the first down)? Although he didn’t break out an overhead projector for purposes of demonstration, Cable apparently has. When asked if Janikowski could have made the first down if the ball was handled cleanly, Cable said, “Yeah, because of the guy’s (Leggett’s) width, and that’s what we were counting on.” – The recovery of veteran players such as Gerard Warren, Cornell Green and John Wade will be watched closely in practice as the Raiders must bounce back to play Thursday night in San Diego. Guard Cooper Carlisle, who left the game briefly with an ankle sprain, returned to finish the game and is expected to face the Chargers. Players were not at the facility Monday, and will have a full day of practice Tuesday _ their usual day off. They have shorter practice Wednesday before departing for San Diego. – Darren McFadden’s one-touch second half had a mostly to do with the Raiders inability to get off the field on defense, Cable said. The Raiders had the ball for only 8:50 of the second half, with the Chiefs controlling it for 21:10. “We really didn’t have the football in the second half,” Cable said. “Some of that was due to that, on the one-play, turnover series, we didn’t get any kind of rhythm in that second half where we could continue to do some of those things.” It also could have played a hand in a young quarterback who was fell off badly in the second half in terms of accuracy. Russell was 3 of 13 for 29 yards. “I think certainly when you’re young like that, you want the ball,” Cable said. “You want the ball. But for us, it’s when we get it, we have to do the right things with it, take care of it, move the ball, score points. So can that happen? Sure, it probably could. But you’d like to believe whenever we get it, we’ve got to take it and do the right thing.” – The lost fumble by Justin Fargas was his first in 288 carries, dating back to last season’s game against the Chicago Bears at the Coliseum. Cable said there was no need to mention anything about the turnover to Fargas, who realized he was carrying the ball with his inside arm. (Fargas has fumbled but not lost possession). “He carries the weight of this team on his shoulders,” Cable said. “He’s one of your bricks in your foundation. He’s the kind of guy that doesn’t say much, goes to work every day. He feels as bad as anybody today, so it’s not necessary.” – The time of possesion issue hurt the offense in the second half, but Cable had no real quibble with the Raiders played defensively. Rob Ryan’s defense set up the only touchdown and gave up only 13 points. “You always have to think about points allowed,” Cable said. “That’s what it is defensively. That’s how you evaluate your defense. They did a nice job that way. Obviously, you like to see them get out of a couple of those drives a little bit in terms of time of possession. But when you hold a team to that few of points, you have given your team a chance to win. That’s what you ask of them.” – Cable on Lane Kiffin’s hiring at Tennessee: “He can move forward now. That’s what he should do and move to the next step in his career.” – Cable said he talked to Al Davis, but didn’t reveal the substance of the conversation. “We talked this morning. Like all of us he’s disappointed,” Cable said.“One thing he and I share is a tremendous passion for winning. Losing is about the worst thing in our lives. That’s what it is.” – Without anything in the standings to denote that the Raiders are officially out of the picture in terms of the playoffs, Cable is keeping that possibility open. “We’re really not out of it. You keep having something to play for,” Cable said. “Everyone has had their issues. All four teams have had their issues in different ways, some it injuries, some of it just poor play. So we’re kind of all in this thing together and it’s just really whoever will sort it out best at the end.” If that sounds possible, belly up to the Kool-aid bar and order a double. So cable thinks Jano would have gotten the 1st down. Are you fuken kidding me Cable? We’re still in the playoff hunt Cable?? Another dumb ass. __________________ [...]
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:07 am
Nadamdi, He’s facing 3 and a half to 15 years in jail, but Al might wait that long.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:20 am
MR Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 10:53 pm
He may be toast but I would still blow him.
This is the only pig guts eater that openly admits it’s gay. lol
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:37 am
-”it worked every time in practice”, Cable says.
Yeh, Cable, it’s a little different when you’re facing 11 guys in pads and helmets, as opposed to 11 guys in helmets and shorts, alongside 20 or so other guys in white Raider polo shirts clapping and cheering. I swear to god Bill Callahan is 20 times better than this guy. Gruden and Kiffin are Lombardi and Brown compared to him.
-Cable said: “But it’s like I mentioned a few weeks ago, if you take a chance like that and it works, everybody thinks you’re a genius. ”
It’s called gambling, Tom. Gambling. And here’s how it works…when you win, you walk away with the money. When you lose, you pay up.
- Cable continues: “When it doesn’t everyone wants to chew on your butt.
“So chew.””
Feeling sorry for yourself now, Barney? Will do, then. We’ll chew away, for the 4 weeks left of your interim career. Again, See: GAMBLE. Ask VegasRaider what it means.
- Jerry writes: “the Raiders must bounce back to play Thursday night in San Diego.”
San Diego playing in the must win game of their lives, and the Raiders season a wash? Can’t we just save face and forfeit early?
-– Cable on Lane Kiffin’s hiring at Tennessee: “He can move forward now. That’s what he should do and move to the next step in his career.”
An obvious objection to Kiffin’s grievance. Unbelievable. They’ve got the head coach playing spokesperson for team legal issues, now? Al, the guy can’t even coach. Now he’s doing P.R. work? Oh, that’s right, Herrera’s credibility is toast now. My god, Al. This organization is just clicking on all cylinders, isn’t it?
Al, do the honorable thing and drive your motorized wheel chair right into Lake Merrit.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:46 am
“It worked in practice” – Tom Cable.
That will be the quote we remember him by.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:47 am
Also,
Bob Marley, and Tommy Trojan….
Your guys’ absence in the latter part of this season has been noted, and will be brought up when you two resurface in February.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:49 am
MR Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 10:53 pm
He may be toast but I would still blow him
…………
I love your quote better.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 am
Kiffin may be toast, but I would still blow him.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 am
You mean your quote, Willie? ^^^
See how easy this is, dickhead?
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:54 am
Willie, now matter how many names you guys post under, you’ll never bring wins to this franchise. Since I’m an Al hater, and since this team will always lose under Al, I will always be the one getting the last laugh. that’s the truth. You guys can give me all the guilt trips you want. You morons don’t even know me, and have no clue who I am in real life. You have zero control over the issue, But you think by playing stupid games and posting under peoples’ names, you’re somehow going to curtail the Al hate in here, and it’s not going to happen. Al is a hated man, and those who don’t like him and predict season after season that we will lose with his puppets, will always be right and always have the last laugh. Post under my name, I’ll just keep posting under yours, too. And, the raiders will just keep losing. We can play this game for as long as you want.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:55 am
MR Says:
December 1st, 2008 at 10:53 pm
He may be toast but I would still blow him
………….
MR Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 am
You mean your quote, Willie? ^^^
See how easy this is, dickhead
…………….
I do have a huge, wide head just for you. Come get it mama cita.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:56 am
Lane Kiffin came to my house one night, and rammed my mom in the ass so hard that she had blood dripping from her leg.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:57 am
You hate Al’s? You will lovvvvvve minesssssssssssssss. Yeah yeah.
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:57 am
We’ve tried young coaches,50year old coaches,ex-great players as coaches.Lets try a Marine Drill-Sergeant.If what everyone says is true,we are NOT disciplined.Receivers dont run disciplined routes,LBs are not disciplined enough 2 stay home,OL are not disiplined enough 2 count to 3,special teams kickers are not disciplined 2 make a winning field goal.Yep it sounds 2 me we need a Marine Drill Sergeant.YES SIR!!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:58 am
I mean SIR YES SIR
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:01 am
[...] interim head coach Tom Cable says he does not regret the decision to go for a fake field goal on Sunday against the [...]
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:29 am
drop and give me 100
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:10 am
Hello test
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:11 am
Scary wont let me say anything bad about his precious blog.
Can anyone see the two posts above the hello test?
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:14 am
#162 Josh
The Al haters blame Al, of course for Nnamdi.
I got called everything but a white boy for saying Nnamdi does not want to be here.
He wants to be on the east coast, closer to Boston the better. Thats where his mom is and she and Nnamdi do big time charity work.
Its not an I hate Al and the Raiders will never win decision.
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:19 am
Nice little chat MR had with himself.
Nice job on your blog, Scary
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:26 am
Cable sucks! How can you not play the hell out of McFadden. He will be fired at the end of the season anyway, but damn, he should at least try. At this point, we should hire Bum Phillips. Is he alive?
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:54 am
#266 Nnamdi
Great article about the decline of the discharge.
Lots of good stuff in it. Heres one.
They’ve lost their identity,” Baltimore Ravens fullback Lorenzo Neal, who played for the Chargers from 2003-07 before being waived last winter, said late Sunday night. “All the players who put together those great seasons are still there, but they’re not having the same results. Under Marty, the mentality was win, lose or draw we’re coming at you, with runs, play-action and leads and draws. Now they are a passive, finesse team.”
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:55 am
Let me ask you all a question!
Why can’t Al Davis find a good GM that agrees with all his philosophies and schemes and then work toghether to build a winner TOGETHER????
WHY WHY WHY?
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:02 am
We could do a lot worse then Cable.
I dont see that many sure fire, no miss GM’s out there.
I would like to see Marty be GM and make his son Brien HC.
I bet Marty would love to run up the score on the discharge twice a year.
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:04 am
Because Al is a hard working SOB and he thinks he can do the job himself.
Although Al is no fool. he now realizes he cannot run the team by himself anymore.
Next year we will have a new GM.
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:08 am
Maybe the answer is that NOBODY agrees with Al’s way of doing things?
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:24 am
You may be right.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:04 am
Fake field goal sucked but other plays could have changed outcome. Specifically, Gbril Wilson drops sure interception, possibly returned for a touchdown, could have sealed the outcome.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:17 am
Andrews Mom Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:14 am
#162 Josh
The Al haters blame Al, of course for Nnamdi.
I got called everything but a white boy for saying Nnamdi does not want to be here.
Are you a mom or a dad? Are you a girl or a boy. If you’re a male you can’t be a mom. If I washed my manlihood really good would you suk on it?
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:20 am
# Todd Christensen’s Shadow Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:07 am
Nadamdi, He’s facing 3 and a half to 15 years in jail, but Al might wait that long.
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The Name Police is furious about you negligence regarding the names of our greatest players. you received warnings when you called you self ChristiAnSON… and now you can’t write the name of the best corner in the world, right.. you are clearly imitating to be a fan…
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:23 am
Mike and Mike were talking on their show today about what a lousy game Thursday night is going to be. They’re asking their listeners to e-mail a name or theme for the game to try and sell it. I’m thinking the girly bowl or the powder puff bowl. What would you girlz suggest that they call it?
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:38 am
Cable proved he isn’t ready to be an NFL head coach. I wonder how many times he tried that fake FG at Idaho. What a joke. Sixth season in a row of double digit losses. First team in NFL history to do so. Raiders are now an elite franchise in a horrible way. Just like GW Bush, AL says it isn’t his fault. Both idiots need to go out and shoot themselves.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:50 am
Lol cable says ” it worked everytime in practice, that’s the shame of it all” reguarding the fake fg………lmfao!!! It works everytime in practice huh so does that mean the chargers can run a fake fg against our defense and it will work? Lol how funny man why don’t u just say that it was bad playcalling and coaching on your part geeze man, you must love loosing
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:17 am
Post #164….I couldn’t have said it better myself…
But I’ll add this… the sophmoric fake FG attempt that would have required the only player on the roster with a pickeled liver swollen enough to even rival Caveman Ryans’ to make a play, and the equally ridiculous denial regarding the utter stupidity of the decision, has momentarily distracted the public from the more important issue….
As Yogi Berra once said, Deja Vu all over again”, Jamarcus has…sadly… reverted into Chubbustus…Dakota might remember Chick Hearn’s oft heard comment, “He couldn’t throw a pea in the ocean…”
Yes, he made some throws in the first half, but he wasn’t bad…he was f**king awful, and you could see his confidence erode…” Oh Well, the playing field was a little mushy…”
…..Not the type of comment that expresses either any sense of humility or sense of urgency….I can think of only sixty million reasons why…
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:17 am
How about the Lame Bowl in honor of Kiffen?
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:40 am
Why does Fargas have to be the foundation of the team.
He has never really performed all the years he has been here, barely squeaked out 1000 years in garbage time last year and gave the game away with a fumble against the Chiefs—- Why is he the reason McFadden gets 1 touch in the second half when we are trailing and Bush never gets in the game. His (Fargas) biggest failure this year was to not sustain a season ending injury in game 3.
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:44 am
Lol lame bowl, funny man
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:52 am
Marty HATES the Raiders. I don’t think that there is any way he comes here.
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:53 am
I am MR
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:54 am
….( The following is meant for those of us actually old enough to remember Woodstock)…
“Give me a C”
“Give me an H” “Give me a U”
“Give me a B”
“Give me another B” (not bongload…Norco Bob…)_
“Give me a U”
“Give me an S”
“Give me a T”
“Give me a U”
“Give me an S”….
“What does that spell…CHUBBUSTUS !!!”
“What does that spell…CHUBBUSTUS !!!”
“What does that spell… CHUBBUSTUS !!!”
“What does that spell…CHUBBUSTUS !!!”
(…enter Country Joe and the Fish…)
“….Well it’s one…two…three…What’s Chubbustus playin’ for ?”
” Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn,
my drool towel needs changing- man…”
“…And it’s five..six…seven…open up the pearly gates…’cause it hurts too much that my team just sucks…WHOOPIE ! I can’t wait to die !”
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:58 am
Cable….gone, fargas….out,(trade bait) javon……adios,
curry…….see ya(though I still like him)
Sands…….good bye
Anymore dead weight? Mmmmmm revamp the o-line and and bring in a productive run stuffing DT and LB
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:02 am
I wasn’t here yesterday. Thoughts on the game:
why can Huff cover Gonzalez, but Asomugha can’t ?
why bring the wildcat formation so often? they knew we wanted to use it and were prepared for it. that was obvious after the first 2 plays, but we were persistant for no reason.
why try trick plays when you’re playing the Chiefs?
instead of taking the easy FG, we do something foolish and give them a free score. That seven points would decide the game. Then we go for it on 4th down instead of taking another easy FG. WHY? the score could be 7-3 at that point. I know you guys hate Fargas for the fumble, but the cries for McFadden & Bush are sickening. Without Fargas, we wouldn’t have gotten any yards or first downs against the Chiefs because Russell sucked and DMC got stuffed on every running play.
the Chiefs game ball goes to Tom Cable and Jamarcus Russell. 1 step forward, 2 steps back
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:10 am
Cable is an idiot. Fargas sucks, Bush and McFadden are better, yet he continues to start Fargas and run him in short yardage situations when they have Bush at 245 lbs.
It’s not just the fake field goal, but going for it on fourth down. Every coach knows you kick the field goal, especially if your defense is playing well.
This really is the stupidest team in America.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:12 am
How about the pendejo bowl?
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:18 am
So now that we’re relinquished to spoiler role, we can’t forget our identity…
Run the ball, chew clock, gain momentum off play action.
Great to see Russell use his legs, hopefully more of that, but we need to play within our identity Thursday. And that’s smash mouth football, then use the play action to gain success.
And score in the red zone. That is a glaring problem, it’s obvious we’re not able to gash the middle at the goal line, so go for the edge, use McFadden’s speed to sprint to the corner.
And play with character, I hope we’re up for it.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:30 am
Russell is a Panty waste. His bank acct. is now full and he made it to the nfl and now he doesn’t care about being good in the nfl. He looked winded after he ran and then his passes were inaccurate, this team lacks discipline and stamina – plus it doesn’t really seem like any of these players came here to win. To many bad decisions in the last 7 years.
I know, I know it doesn’t matter what name I post under my comments always get deleted, so go ahead and delete.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:36 am
Also, I hate to say it but Jr. Huggy is holding us back, lets beef up this oline we got and throw a good reciever in the mix (Not Plaxico) Then all we need is a Coach who knows how to discipline players and make them want to win.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:36 am
Streaking: The Chiefs have won six straight at Oakland. . . .
The best undrafted player in the league? Steelers outside ‘backer James Harrison would have to get his share of votes. His stat line reads as follows: 14 sacks, six forced fumbles, one INT and 80 tackles. Not bad for a practice-squad grad released by two different teams. . . .
Which brings us to the MVP voting. Kurt Warner? They can’t be serious, can they? Right now, Harrison and Albert Haynesworth are tied atop my virtual ballot. At any rate, defensive player of the year isn’t enough for either of them.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:39 am
Tom Cable has now proved to me that he is not head coaching material.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:41 am
I bought myself a Tennessee Vols jersey yesterday. Going to be sporting it down in here in San Diego in honor of Kiffin. Go Chargers, go Vols!!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:49 am
Not that the AFC West is in a state of transition, but the Broncos and Chiefs have used 29 rookies between them. . . .
True story. My neighbor asked me if Tennessee could pay Monte Kiffin enough to make him leave the Bucs and join his son, Lane, in Knoxville. Excuse me? It’s the SEC! It ain’t intramurals! The UT president would pick up the old man at the airport and drive him to the news conference.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:59 am
Russell is the typical Raiders draft pick. Selected based on potential or upside. I’ve been blaming his performance on
A. basically a rookie
B. poor pass protection
C. terrible receivers
D. bad play calling
but since I live in Missouri I only got to watch 3 games this year. MNF vs the donks and both Chiefs games. Russell just flat out sucks. Looking back, i’m not surprised. showed up flabby to the combine = lack of discipline. contract hold out/missed camp & preseason = selfish, all about the money. not a vocal leader = doesn’t have the tools. He’s not accurate, he can’t read a defense, he can’t win.
Wasn’t Tyler Thigpin a 7th rd pick from Minnesota? Plays for the crappy Chiefs? they have a bad o-line, sucky defense and coaching too. Yet he looked like a pro bowler in comparison to Russell (#1 overall pick) on Sunday. Even Tony Gonzalez noticed what a crap job J Russ is …
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 am
The resurrection:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/gallery/enlargePhoto?id=3738945&story=3738592
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:02 am
U OF T baby, U OF T!!!
GO VOLS!!
VOL NATION!!
CREAMSICLE ORANGE AND WHITE TIL I DIE!!!
RECOGNIZE THE VOL NATION!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:04 am
POST 310:
Good analysis. Your points are absolutely correct. JaMarcus is a bust IMO.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:05 am
I’ll bet that Kiffin has a white boy QB at Tenn because I remember before we drafted JRuss that Kiffin liked Trent Edwards and wanted Calvin Johnson 1st pick overall
Al Davis needs to get a clue … all of our successful QB’s have been white (Gannon, Hostetler, Stabler) or Latino(Plunkett & Flores) not Black … they just dont have the intelligence to be successful except for the rare exception (McNabb) … out of the top 12 QBs for stats in the NFL this year, all are white except McNabb.
I say we try to Hustle Cinci for Carson Palmer…please Al.. do it for the sake of another 6 years of bad QB play from Russell… please Al I’ll do anything even get on my knees and guzzle your old peter to make this change now.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:17 am
Kiffin is back in college, where he belongs. Unless his dad Monte joins him on the coaching staff, that program is going to fall flat on it’s face. Lane doesn’t have what it takes to lead a football team. We’ll find out soon with him being in the SEC. For now you Kiffy lovers need to keep your traps shut. The proof will be in the pudding. Funny thing is, if Davis trusted Kiffin, he might have gotten a say on draft day and the defensive coaching staff. This team would look good with Edwards & Johnson on offense and Monte as the DC. Well… maybe not good, but better.
the past is the past. WHAT IF’s don’t matter in life.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:25 am
I’ve been a Jamarcus supporter, but damn, this past game was really disappointing. To have a 38% completion against the lowly Chiefs just sucks. And I’d love to blame his performance on the o-line, but he didn’t get sacked, so what gives? Just when I thought there was a light at the end of the tunnel after the Denver game, we revert back to the same old Raiders, incompetent and inefficient. When does it end?
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:30 am
It wont until we get a new QB. JaMarcus is a bust. Ala Akili Smith, Cade McNown, Ryan Leaf, the list goes on and on….
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:30 am
I think its safe to say Cable will be gone next year, you can’t lose to the 1-10 Chiefs.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:30 am
post 314 your sick man, get some help.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:32 am
Post 314 is the blogger who calls himself Chaos.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:32 am
so the chiefs beat us 6 times in a row in oakland, and its jamarcus who is the bust? i’ll say management is the bust.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:32 am
Did Jim Harbaugh ever sign that extension to remain a college HC?
Did Jim Fassel really apply to be HC of a CFL team?
Al Davis needs to hire one of these guys and give them 100 % say on all personnel moves and coaching hires. That’s the only way this team improves and we all know this scenario will never happen. Imagine -
HC: Jim Fassel
OC: Charlie Weis
DC: Romeo Crennel
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:34 am
Lame Sniffin,
For our sake as fans, I hope you’re wrong. We’ve missed on so many draft picks in recent years, the Jamarcus pick would be absolutely crippling.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:34 am
mcfaddenswaggon Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:32 am
so the chiefs beat us 6 times in a row in oakland, and its jamarcus who is the bust? i’ll say management is the bust.
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Oh yes, you sir are correct. JaMarcus IS performing like a number 1 overall pick. I do see glimpses of perfection in his performances. He has the “it” factor and will take us to the promised land. ONLY IF YOU ARE PLAYING MADDEN.
Dont give me this crap about him being a rookie etc… dude was the number 1 overall pick, will he EVER play like it? Have you seen ANY flashes of genious from him YET? Dont bother answering, because we both know the answers to my questions.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 am
that fake FG a attempt was just a crappy LOW percentage move and it was unecessary.
How about working on consistent play calling in the red zone and throughout the game in practice instead of gimmick fake FG plays.
How about getting DMC AND BUSH involved in the game plan more??
Jim Harbaugh please save this team!
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 am
dikembesaysno Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:34 am
Lame Sniffin,
For our sake as fans, I hope you’re wrong. We’ve missed on so many draft picks in recent years, the Jamarcus pick would be absolutely crippling.
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I agree my friend. But I think it’s obviously inevitable at this point with JaMarcus. He just doesn’t have “it”.
However we do have McFadden. He isn’t a bust, and will be a star for years to come.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:38 am
I think he’ll be fine, as long as we don’t keep switching the system on him. Not saying he’s joe montana, but I’m sure he’s not as bad as you all think. How did troy aikman do his first year? how bout Eli?
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:38 am
darkknight01 Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 am
Jim Harbaugh please save this team!
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I too am pulling for Jim Harbaugh as the next coach. With Mooch as GM.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:38 am
Post 314
Youre right on, man! we need a honky tonk white boy leading this team, black man will not get ‘er done
Palmer would look great in silver and black, and we might even make the playoffs again, playoffs?, we’re talkin’ about playoffs, Al… remember those days?
Don’t be senile Al, do whats right and get over this JRuss experiment and get a proven vet QB, your legacy will thank you later
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:39 am
325,
Totally agree, we really don’t utilize our weapons. Michael Bush didn’t run the ball once! He was a big part of our win against the Chiefs the first time around. I just don’t get it.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:40 am
mcfaddenswaggon Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:38 am
I think he’ll be fine, as long as we don’t keep switching the system on him. Not saying he’s joe montana, but I’m sure he’s not as bad as you all think. How did troy aikman do his first year? how bout Eli?
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Bad examples, they aren’t the same style of QB.
For example, lets break down the touch pass. The touch pass is a skill learned early on, possibly even in pop warner. It isn’t necessarily the hardest pass to throw, but it takes skill. (I played QB as far as JuCo). It takes patience and experience. JaMarcus can’t even throw a touch pass. Heaving the ball 80 yards isn’t difficult, if you have the arm strength.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:41 am
1. I think its safe to say Cable will be gone next year, you can’t lose to the 1-10 Chiefs.
2. so the chiefs beat us 6 times in a row in oakland, and its jamarcus who is the bust? i’ll say management is the bust.
***
1. I agree. Cable is done. How to you beat the best team in the division one week and lose to the worst team in the division the next week? then at the press conference say the team is improving? HOW? WHERE? clearly a game we should have won. Would have loved to be a fly on the wall when Cable was called into Davis’ office following the loss.
2. management is the bust for selecting players like Russell and coaches like Callahan, Shell, Turner, Kiffin & Cable. Good position coaches and coordinators, but not HC material.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:41 am
Oh..oh..here come the Jamarcus haters who pose as Raider fans….
Jesus…give it a rest you clowns….
Jamarcus is developing and what he needs is a better O line….a better teacher of QB’s and a better play calling coach.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:41 am
How about the “Knife in the Gut” Game?
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:41 am
I dont fault Tom Cable at all for calling a fake fieldgoal,he is doing whatever it takes to get this team in the endzone.the RAIDERS have only scored 13 TD’S all yr.at least he has an imagination he will do whatever it takes to get this team on the winning track.yeh, i no the game changed on that play and it was a 10 point swing,but oh well if it would of been executed properly it would of been a great call.maybe next time.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:41 am
post 327 the QB’s you mention… are white boys
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 am
I don’t think Harbaugh has signed that contract extension either. There were rumors of it…but NOTHING official thats for sure!
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 am
Post 333
LMFAO.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:43 am
Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning, John Elway, were all losers in their first couple of seasons. In fact, the Cowboys and Colts had worse records than the Raiders. Give the guy a break. Russell doesn’t have sh*t to work with, no receivers, no line, no coaching, and a horrible environment to development in. I guarantee you if Russell was on almost any other team, his progress would be much greater by now.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:43 am
I’ve seen jamarcus make every pass, yes he’s had some bad throws, and yes are playmakers are the wideout position are easily the worst in the league. If you don’t support Jamarcus i dont know how you can be a raider fan, he’s is are hope, i know things are bad when you have to quote T.O. but here it is ,”he’s my quarterback.”
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:45 am
Jamarcus is the man! All he needs is a good head coach who can call the right plays at the right time and make the offensive line stronger.
The only thing that will hurt Jamarcus development is if he has to constantly learn new systems and offensive terminology every two years.
That will be NO GOOD! Lets hope the next head coach and GM the old senile man hires….will be kept around for at least 4 years.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:51 am
Oh and did Ryan blitz Thigpen at all this last game??!!
Once again the schizophrenice DC Rob Ryan decides to rush four the whole freakin game practically.
Why does it seem like Ryan always refuses to blitz when the team is at home??
Freakin weirdo Rob Ryan is and he is one of the most inconsistent defensive coordinators I have ever seen.
He thinks he can get consistent pressure on the QB by just rushing four 95% of the time when it is obvious they don’t get to the QB enough! He refuses to make in game adjustments and that is a big NO NO in the NFL IMO.
TERRIBLE!
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:54 am
This offseason is going to be crucial to the progression of this “team.” The right GM needs to be brought in and the right coaching staff needs to be assembled. We cannot whiff this offseason.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:56 am
First of all from what I have been reading here for the last several months is that Al Davis calls the plays. If this is true we don’t have to worry about JMac not having a consistent tenure in Oakland. He will have the same play caller his whole carreer. And there is no way in hell Al’s is senile enough to give up on a guy that he nearly shed a tear talking about during the Lane Kiffin press confrence. Also, the Raiders of old and Old style Raider football is rushing 4 down linemen and they do get to the QB. Remember Howie, Sistrunk, and Co. We have never been a team that blitzes a lot. Do you people really root for the Raiders and watch the games are do you just like the look of the uniform.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:57 am
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December 2nd, 2008 at 9:57 am
Nostalgia is the Raiders worst enemy.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 am
Cable may have no regrets about trying the fake FG, but I have serious regrets about hiring Cable as head coach. I really should have looked at his resume. Herrera forgot to mention that Cable was 11-35 at Idaho! I based my decision to hire him on his 40 time, he can flat out fly for a fat ass.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 am
As I stated before, Jamarcus is immature, perhaps more so than Al realized, but the best place for him to grow up is on the field. He’s too damn big to get hurt anyhow. I actually kind of like his scrambling ability. We need to sign Ted Martinez as his personal B coach. At least he runs better than Jano…
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:03 am
Hey Back to the 70s,
Just because the Raiders have been doing something forever does not make it the right thing to do. Are you retarded or simply slow?
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:05 am
This is not the 70s and until AD realizes we are in the 21st century the team will continue to regress. The NFL is the most competitive professional sport and schemes that may have worked in the past are not necessarily going to be effective in today’s game. I appreciate the history of the Raiders like any other fan, but this has got to stop. Reminiscing about the good ole days does nothing for this current team.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:06 am
you can’t say white QB’s are better than African American QB’s. This site will be closed down by the end of the year, based on it’s support of racism.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:06 am
Yes I am slow and retarded. Our defense did only give up 13 points. They really suck. They are terrible. You guys are all of the idiots.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 am
The Wild cat is an older offense than the west coast. Thanks for playing idiots.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 am
Back to the 70s,
The Chiefs offense had the ball for 21+ mins in the second half.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:09 am
If excuted properly even Walsh’s offense would have been good. Get some books boys and learn your football history.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 am
Our offense went 3 and out 4 times. That really helped in the time of possesion. Do you read what you post before you hit enter.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:12 am
Hey Retarded Slow 70s Boy,
So what if our D only gave up 13 points? They couldn’t stop KC when it mattered and that has been a consistent problem with Rob Ryan’s defenses hasn’t it? Do you watch any of the games, or just read Rob Ryan’s blog? Our D is ranked at the bottom of the NFL, and year after year Ryan blows multiple 4th quarter leads as has been pointed out many, many times. Rob Ryan’s defense, when not blitzing, puts very little pressure on the opposing QB, which results in losers like Thigpen having all the time in the world to drive the ball down our throats. If you can’t see it then there is no help for you, or Al Davis for that matter.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:14 am
Do you? Declaring that the bed & breakfast would have been successful? That’s like saying if Andrew Walter had some blocking he could have made the Pro Bowl.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:14 am
Hey Al see post 356 for reason the D is so tired.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 am
All of you are on notice. If one more racist remark is made not only will this site be closed down but anyone making racist remarks will be repremanded to the highest extent of the law.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:16 am
If properly excuted any offense would work regardless of what era it was invented. We just didn’t have the excution and discipline that it takes to make it work. The Bed and Breakfast offense is very similar to offfense run by the New England Patriots. Thanks.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 am
What good does speculation do? NOTHING. You’re welcome.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 am
The tired D excuse? Seriously? Are you so fuking uninformed that you don’t know that under Kiffin in 2007 we actually dominated the time of possession stats, yet Rob Ryan’s defenses consistently crumbled in the second halves of games? Are you really that fuking dense? Get a clue and then come back here when you are able to hang with the big boys.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:19 am
I sit second row every home game. Thanks for your concern football is all about timing and execution. We don’t have it on offense. We need JMac and the WR’s in the offense to go off to some undisclosed site and throw routes and get their timing and help them with excuting plays.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:20 am
if asomugha leaves, he should sign with the giants.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 am
NAACP – back up your statement with facts — “you can’t say white QB’s are better than African American QB’s”
When is the last time a black QB won the Superbowl?
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 am
Back to The 70’s,
First off, I don’t care what row you sit in. Secondly, do you think you are being profound with that last post? It doesn’t take a genius to figure out the offense doesn’t “have it” when you go 15 quarters without scoring a TD.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:25 am
I’m not a Rob Ryan fan. But, after reading this blog I just thought you should know that football is a game of wills and when an offense is firing on all cylinders and everybody is on the same page it’s a thing of beauty. Rob may want to blitz more. How would we know. He is Al Davis puppet according to 90 percent of the blogers oppinions in here. So, how can you say for sure that it’s Rob’s fault if he is being told not to blitz and to only use the 4 down line men like he used to do. I was just stating it. I don’t believe we shouldn’t blitz. I was being sarcastic after reading all of the other post. We should be blitzing. Our offense could greatly help or defense by getting first downs. Like in the Denver game.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 am
I don’t care where you sit either Dikembe.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 am
You telling us where you sit does not lend any credibility to your argument.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 am
I was just answering the question do you watch the games. I do. And like a lot of us in here. I really want the Raiders to be great again. I just think if you really know football. Then you know that it really doesn’t matter what offense you run or don’t run. It’s a matter of execution. And we are just not executing when it counts. Like we were with Gannon and Co. It’s that simple.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 am
And did I mention where I sat? Didn’t think so. Because I know no one cares.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:37 am
Whiteboy, does the name Doug Williams mean anything to you? When you take the percentage of black QB’s to that of white QB’s Their W-L records hold up admiribly.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 am
70s,
Next time, don’t come in here declaring everyone idiots because you sit in the second row.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 am
Boy Dikembe if you took that much out of my comment I really feel sorry for you. I don’t think if you sit in the front row it makes you smart. It may mean you are good at making money. But, get over it man. I was just stating that I do watch the games from my seats in the second row. I also watch on a big screen T.V. at home when they are away. Don’t get too mad about that. Ok.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 am
#361…
“The Bed and Breakfast Offense”
LOL!!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:43 am
FU NAACP… Doug Williams does not mean anything to me… one brotha outta 42 Superbowls doesn’t make your point…racist fool.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:44 am
You know a football team is dumb when the people posting on the message board know how to win better than the coach and the owner.
Honestly.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:44 am
Your only argument has been quashed and now all you can attack is where I sit. Idiot. Thanks for playing here’s your card.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:50 am
Back to the 70’s Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 am
Boy Dikembe if you took that much out of my comment I really feel sorry for you. I don’t think if you sit in the front row it makes you smart. It may mean you are good at making money. But, get over it man. I was just stating that I do watch the games from my seats in the second row. I also watch on a big screen T.V. at home when they are away. Don’t get too mad about that. Ok.
This is BHP in disguise.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 am
Whiteboy, you ain’t nothing but a trailer trash talking honky!
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:58 am
BHP must be a good Raider fan then too.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:58 am
70’s,
When you pull your head out of your A$$ and realize it’s the 21st century, then maybe we can have an intelligent conversation. Until then throw on your nylon jumpsuit and retreat to your recliner chump.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:03 am
Keep insulting me, I reall don’t care. I am real comfortable in my skin. I don’t think it’s possible to have an intelligent convesation with you., It’s one sided.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:03 am
NAACP… please dont resort to racist profiling… you are the example of an uninformed fan who needs education on the history of white boy QBs in the NFL… proven overwhelmingly by history…Al Davis needs to realize this too… so move on from JRuss… he is an great example of a furcoat wearing $$$ bling blinger who doesnt have the talent to win in the NFL… We need a white boy like Carson Palmer who is proven that he can win and take this team to the playoffs… JRuss never will…Mark My Words.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:04 am
AlisnoGod Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:05 am
“Al Davis needs to get a clue … all of our successful QB’s have been white (Gannon, Hostetler, Stabler) or Latino(Plunkett & Flores) not Black … they just dont have the intelligence to be successful except for the rare exception (McNabb)”
……
We can take away all of these rules designed to make women like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady look better, and see how many great white quarterbacks are. Joe Montana, Ken Stabler, and Terry Bradshaw were great white quarterbacks. None of them were known for being very smart. Montana threw 3 picks in “the catch” game. Had “the catch” not happened, there might be no Joe as we know him. Bradshaw? A lot of people believed he was clinically brain dead. Stabler was a drunk. And, like Montana, was mistake prone despite his heroic moments. All 3 have rings.
Jim Plunkett was a great Chicano qb. Warren Moon was a great black qb. Doug Williams has exactly one more Super Bowl ring than Dan Marino and Jim Kelly combined (the dumb ass white boys), and it’s shinin’.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:04 am
Can ANYONE explain to me why we dont play the Wishbone formation with Bush, McFadden, and Fargas? Such formation removes the Z and only has the X as a lone wideout. It’s not as if we have an X and Z on the field anyway.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:04 am
Back to the 70’s Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:58 am
BHP must be a good Raider fan then too.
No, he’s not even a good publican. The diety is ashamed of him. He belongs on his other blog where he posts as IMOROM or Darwin2004. Oh! I forgot! I chased him off that blog already.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:07 am
Plunkett is not Chicano. He is a has some Native American Indian and Caucausian.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:08 am
70s,
You act like I’m the one who started this? Did you not come in here and start calling everyone idiots? And for what? Because the Raiders traditionally rush 4 down lineman? It’s nice of you to toot your own horn, but you are not going to be well received. End of story.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 am
Lame be careful about bringing up old offenses that work when properly executed. People in here don’t know enough about football to think that could work in the 21st Century. I think you have a great point.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 am
Source on Plunkett’s ethnicity, ’70s?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:13 am
According to Wikipedia…
Plunkett was born to Mexican American parents with an Irish-German great-grandfather on his paternal side.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:13 am
No, I was just calling you all idiots because you guys all come in here and complain about our system and how it is run and you blame Davis for everything and I agree most of the time I agree. But, in reality if you have been watching Raider football for as long as some of us have you would know that Al Davis likes to only rush 4 down linemen. So we wouldn’t have to keep having these same arguments over and over. I don’t care how any of you receive me. I am just here to point out the obvious for you. Your welcome.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:14 am
back to the ’70s,
hello?
Do you have a source to back up your claim that plunkett is not Chicano, or were you just talking out of your ass?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 am
70s, no doubt you are you’re biggest fan.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:17 am
So Mora may not take the Seattle coaching position and might take the Huskie job. Quess that might leave some Raider coach’s hanging unless they want to go back to college.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:18 am
Thanks. I’m really starting to warm up to you Dikembe. I have actually read your posts in the past and have agreed i have agreed with you a lot. I just don’t think we need to keep rehashing that fact that we don’t blitz as much because Al doesn’t prefer it.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:18 am
Exlaraider, wow. This means Cable stays? Alright! Look out now, NFL…
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:19 am
Back to the ’70s, you don’t have a source that Plunkett isn’t Chicano, do you? Why would you take a crack at Plunkett’s ethnicity when you have no clue what you’re talking about?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 am
Mr. Whiteboy, please be informed that you have left out enough rope to officially hang yourself. You WILL be hearing from our legal team.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:22 am
’70s, enough posting as Jessie Jackson. YOU said Plunkett isn’t Chicano. YOU are yet to provide a source. Why would you just make up Plunkett’s ethnicity? Is that your source for every topic in here? Your imagination?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:22 am
Look who just came out of the closet: MR!! Good to see you are OK with your sexuality MR. I was wondering who was throwing all the racist blasts and getting everyone to argue with each other. Good old MR!
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:24 am
70s,
That’s not my concern. I don’t appreciate the ego. Rather than name calling when explaining something, just leave it at the explanation. We are all Raiders fans in here, except for a few obviously(Chargerd Up, etc.).
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:24 am
I met Jim Plunkett in Yosemite in 1989. He didn’t claim to be Mexican American like Flores so often has. I was always under the impression he was American Indian. If I am wrong so be it. But, like I said he didn’t mention he was hispanic like Flores does so often. Not that it matters. I just thought he would be more proud of it and brought it up like Flores has.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:25 am
70s, now you’re going to give me a guilt trip for calling you on your b.s.? You guys were arguing when I came in. Talking about black quarterbacks being dumb and what not. I pointed out Plunkett being Chicano, and you said he isn’t. We’re still waiting on your source. I don’t think you use sources for anything. You just talk out of your ass and make stuff up, then when you’re called on it you start these pissy ass guilt trips like someone is picking a fight with you.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:27 am
So that’s your source, ’70s? You and Plunkett scaled Half Dome together and he never once actually told you he was Chicano? You make your proclamation that he’s not Chicano on the sole fact that he doesn’t walk around wearing a pancho and sombrero? You’re a first class moron.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:28 am
Coming out in front of the entire Raider nation MR. How does that make you feel?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:28 am
Ego = I sit in the second Row. I never said it wasn’t on top of Mount Davis did I? I guess you just assumed something.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:30 am
When you call some one an idiot after explaining something what I am supposed to assume? Your humble?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:30 am
We actually were on a mule pack for 7 days together. I worked as a guide. He was really cool. And no, I don’t let race be a factor on what makes the man. My dad was a huge Plunkett fan cause he always told me he was of Indian Decent like I am. That’s all. We didn’t talk race we talked football. Thanks
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:31 am
You sit in the second row, ’70s? Why should anyone believe you? You just said Plunkett wasn’t Chicano, like you knew what you were talking about, and you were dead wrong. Now you want us to believe you sit in the 2rd row? You probably don’t even go to games. You’re a proven liar, so why should anyone believe you?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:32 am
Our White Brother in Arms, Whiteboy, shall be freed from slander that the racist, The Reverend Jesse L. Jackson, spews from his DSL’s, mighty big ones indeed.
Whiteboy QB’s rule, African Blackboys are only good for toting the rock and going long.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:32 am
Oh, so now you have two sources,
1) Plunkett never actually told you he was Chicano…
2) Your dad said so.
Well, your dad’s a moron who doesn’t know what he’s talking about, either.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:32 am
Whatever Dikembe. Keep watching football and you will see offenses come and go and defense of schemes come and go. It’s part of it.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:33 am
dikembesaysno Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 am
70s, no doubt you are you’re biggest fan.
Another reason to suspect that he is BHP.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:34 am
And, back to the ’70s, if you don’t believe race is a factor, then why did you try to make a case that Plunkett wasn’t Chicano? You reveal yourself to be more full of sh*t with each comment. Just quit digging your hole, dude.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:35 am
Back to the 70s,
How are we to know at this point that you’re not lying about basically everything? Why should anyone believe anything you say at this point?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:35 am
70s,
Whatever? A typical response from someone who has been caught in their own BS.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:36 am
You went to Yosemite with Plunkett…You’re native American…sure. What are you going to make up next, moron?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:36 am
Thanks Mr. my dad is dead. I wil make sure to go to his grave and tell him he is a liar. That he told all four of his sons a lie. And that because my dad was such a liar I never really ever cared to check his ethnic background. I was just told something and believed as a kid. Wow. You are obviously perfect. I was just stating what I believed and I guess I have been proven wrong. I don’t think Wikepedia ever got anything wrong either. Whatever. I really don’t care if I sit in the second row or the last row as long as I am at the games.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:37 am
Back to the ’70s doesn’t believe Snoop Dogg is black, because Snoop never actually said so.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:39 am
Back to the 70’s Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:24 am
I met Jim Plunkett in Yosemite in 1989. He didn’t claim to be Mexican American like Flores so often has. I was always under the impression he was American Indian. If I am wrong so be it. But, like I said he didn’t mention he was hispanic like Flores does so often. Not that it matters. I just thought he would be more proud of it and brought it up like Flores has.
Another fine example of name dropping Namaste….err…I mean BHP!
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:40 am
Back to the ’70s, this isn’t about your dad. It’s about you making up Plunkett’s ethnicity, probably because you’re ashamed to face that fact that one of the greatest quarterbacks in Raider history is of MEXICAN descent. Then, after you’re proven wrong, you try to say that race isn’t a factor to you. Oh, sure, which is why you chimed into begin with by claiming Plunkett was not Chicano. Nice try, idiot.
This isn’t about your dad, ’70s. It’s about you being entirely full of crap, and nothing else. Don’t try and spin this, you moron.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:41 am
we believe you are gay MR because you have told us so, a million times. We get it already.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:46 am
I can vouch that Plunkett is Hispanic and not Native American. I once asked him if he could score some peyote for me. He didn’t have a clue as to what I was talking about.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:48 am
Probably because Plunkett doesn’t use drugs, Spider. He’s a beer drinker. He’s actually a conventional, middle American type of guy. But he is in fact Chicano, no matter how ashamed of it people like Back to the ’70s are.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:48 am
I just asked 5 people in my office and they all said Native American Indian. Wow. I really don’t think a chance meeting with Plunkett is name droping. And I really don’t care. Keep attacking me. It feels good.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:51 am
Oh, Back To The ’70s has a new source, everyone.
All of his imaginary friends in his imaginary office just concurred with him that Plunkett is not Chicano.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:52 am
Back To The ’70s,
I thought race doesn’t matter to you? So, why are you bugging your co workers now about Plunkett’s ethnicity? You’re beyond race, remember?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:53 am
Are you going to pull out your tomahawk and do a warcry dance around your office now, Back to the 70’s aka Native American Indian?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:54 am
Back To The ’70s, you might be the biggest moron I’ve ever met in here, and believe me, there are a lot. But you’re contending for the championship right now.
“I just asked 5 people in my office”.
LOL.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:54 am
Boy! You fader girlz are in between a rock and a hardplace. If you lose on Thursday Charged Up is going to ride your pansy a$$e$ all week long. If you win you all but hand the division to the Broncos. Can’t win for losing cany you lozerz?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:55 am
Mr. Thanks coming from you I will take that as a compliment.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:56 am
We’re losing out for the draft now, Spider. Davis just wanted to beat Denver. Denver’s always a huge game we get pumped up for. Now that we’re out of playoff contention, we’re playing for the draft. The Raiders don’t use failed seasons to build momentum for the following year. They go for the high draft pick.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:56 am
Next you guys are going to tell me he doesn’t belong in the HOF?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:57 am
Notice how nobody in here is really even talking about beating San Diego. No game breakdowns, or anything, and this game is 48 hrs. away. Nada. We’re talking draft now, homie.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:58 am
’70s, what are you talking about? Just shut up before you get caught in another lie.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Yo quieros Jim Plunkett muchos. El es un fader muy bueno, solemente.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:03 pm
A lie. I didn’t lie once on here. I said I was told by my dad that he was of Native American Decent.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:04 pm
SPIDER- SIX LEG’S AND NO PLACE TO GO, SOMEBODY PUT A FOOT ON TIHS GUY…
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:04 pm
I am guilty of not checking my dad’s statement. And for not asking Plunkett himself. Boy, I better go and run. Whatever.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 pm
They weren’t “faders” when Plunkett was here, homie. Those were the Ron Wolf days, back when we had a team every year.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 pm
MR Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:56 am
We’re losing out for the draft now, Spider. Davis just wanted to beat Denver. Denver’s always a huge game we get pumped up for. Now that we’re out of playoff contention, we’re playing for the draft. The Raiders don’t use failed seasons to build momentum for the following year. They go for the high draft pick.
What’s this we stuff pale face? I thought you were a Niner fan?
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Guilt by assocation…70’s
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:08 pm
No, ’70s, you’re guilty of lying about his ethnicity. You claimed he wasn’t Chicano. Again, you STATED that he was NOT Chicano. I asked you for a source, and here’s what we got. Ladies and Gentlemen, please hold all laughter until all of the sources have been named.
1) He never told you he was (you never asked).
2) Your father said so
3) Your imaginary co workers said so in your imaginary office.
Then, when that failed, you went to the typical “Well, race shouldn’t matter anyway”, card. Oh…of course it doesn’t matter, once you’ve been proven wrong in a discussion on race.
Have a good day, liar.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:12 pm
MR Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 pm
They weren’t “faders” when Plunkett was here, homie. Those were the Ron Wolf days, back when we had a team every year.
I will have to give you that. But I thought you were a Niner fan?
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:15 pm
I was just proud to think he was an indian american. I am having a good day pulling your strings MR. I think you are incredible arguer and I love to see you in action.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Did I ever say I was a 49er fan? Or, are you simply not smart enough to tell when people’s screen names have been jacked?
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Pull my strings? Ha. That’s cute.
No, here’s what happened, Back To The ’70s.
You lied,
I proved you wrong,
You’re owned.
End of story.
No strings attached.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:17 pm
MR STFU YOU IDIOT.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:18 pm
MR is a waste of Time. Don’t listen to him 70’s, there isn’t a SINGLE blogger that gives a rats azz about this fool MR. He is a very strange individual who posts in here with approximately 15 or more nick names. He is quite creapy. It’s better to just avoid his wierdeness.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:18 pm
What does “Lame Sniffen” mean?
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:19 pm
It means I smelled your mom, and SHE STINKS like your breath. What you been eatin, her?
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Creepy is spelled with two “e”s, genius. And, what does “Sniffin” mean? What’s the gist of that?
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pm
HAHAHAAH MR WAS JUST OWNED. HAHAHAHAHA SUCKA.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pm
You own me now. I like how you feel so impowered. I never lied. I thought what I was saying to be true. I didn’t Wikepedia it. I was just retelling what I was told. I think it will interesting to see what you do with me now that you own me. Can I quit working and what time do I have to show up at your house to start my service.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:21 pm
It means you smelled my mom…wow, that was a solid comeback, Lame Sniffin. I get it. The name’s so retarded that you don’t even have an explanation for it. I thought it was a shot at Kiffin, but I just don’t know what “sniffin” refers to.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:23 pm
70’s:
May your father RIP my Raider brother.
MR typically tries to put others down on this blog, he isn’t a Raider fan, just ignore him. His sole purpose in life is to spend countelss hours on an Internet blog acting like a bully. When in real life 99% of us would drop this fool in person. Thats his gig, strange as it is, it’s his thing. Very odd.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:23 pm
MR if I wanted to hear anything from you I would have farted, now STFU and go away loser boy.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:24 pm
AHHAHA MR SUCKS THE BIG ONE. YEAH BABY.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Back To the ’70s, are you brain dead?
You did too lie.
You said Plunkett was NOT Chicano. Scroll up and see for yourself. You were asked for a source, and your sources are nothing short of a joke.
Your first source was that Plunkett never said he was Chicano, like he’s supposed to say, “Hi, I’m Jim, I’m Chicano”.
Your dad said so.
Your co workers said so. You’ve been in here for over an hour which means you’re not at work. So you’ve resorted to making up sources, too.
Then, when all else failed, you’d try to pull that “race doesn’t matter anyway” safety lever. Too late. Maybe you should have played that card BEFORE trying to lie about Plunkett’s ethnicity?
You’re owned. Bow out now because the more you try to make your case, the dumber you look.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:26 pm
MR STFU. Nobody cares about you or what you say. You lie everyday. You lie to yourself that you are worth anything or meaningful to anyone. You are a clown who is hated by everyone. You have no life, and nobody likes you kid.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:27 pm
MR SUCKS THE BIG ONE AGAIN. HE SHOOTS HE SCORES. MR OWNED.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Sniffen, “drop the fool in person”? Why are you talking tough over the internet?
Anyhow, what does “Sniffin” refer to? What’s the association with Kiffin? I’m sure it’s funny, but you won’t even explain it.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:30 pm
MR Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 am
You mean your quote, Willie? ^^^
See how easy this is, dickhead?
…………..
I knocked on your door last night. Where were you for me?
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:31 pm
SUCKING THE BIG ONE MR IS AGAIN. HMMM YODA IS KING HE IS. AND MR SUCKS IT HE DOES. MMMMM
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:33 pm
I guess you’re not going to explain what “sniffin” means. You’re name is so retarded you don’t even get it. “Lame” is actually clever. “Lame” Kiffin. LOL. That’s good. But “sniffin” is retarded, like you. Your name makes no sense yet begs for attention, hey, like you!
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm
this board is getting more rediculas by the day!
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm
HA HA HA HA HE HE HE HE HAH AHAHAHA MR SUCKS Ha hahahaha
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Are you King of the blog now dude? geez!
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:35 pm
MR SUCKS IT WITH A BIT OF PEANUT BUTTER.
AHHH HE SHOOTS HE SCORES. MR OWNED YET AGAIN.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Sniffin, why are you always talking about blow jobs and peanut butter? Like in every comment?
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:36 pm
raidersmaniac Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm
this board is getting more rediculas by the day!
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Just like your spelling and gramamr home boy.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:38 pm
One has to wonder about your obsession with 3 things, evidenced by the consistency of you bringing them up in comments, Sniffin:
1) Lane Kiffin
2) blow jobs
3) peanut butter.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:38 pm
MR Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Sniffin, why are you always talking about blow jobs and peanut butter? Like in every comment?
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Hmm interesting MR. I think you just gave us a bit of information into your personal life. I NEVER mentioned BJ’s, YOU DID kid. What is on your mind? My my MR that was very revealing. Interesting. Though most of us guessed you were that type.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:40 pm
the good news about our loss against the chefs is we will be that much closer to drafting a top 5 player in the draft next year. If we win thursday i will celebrate the win at the wu-tang clan concert this friday at the house of blues in downtown san diego!
WU-TANG CLAN AIN’T NUTHIN TO FUK WITH!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Then what were you referring to when you said “sucks it”, Sniffin? The back door? Fair enough. Why are you obsessed with licking assholes, peanut butter, and Lane Kiffin?
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:42 pm
MR Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:38 pm
One has to wonder about your obsession with 3 things, evidenced by the consistency of you bringing them up in comments, Sniffin:
1) Lane Kiffin
2) blow jobs
3) peanut butter.
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Ahh yet again another revelation into the personal life of MR. Are those your favorite things in order?
I never mentioned your option number 2, you did kid.
WOW MR. WOW.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:45 pm
MR Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Then what were you referring to when you said “sucks it”, Sniffin? The back door? Fair enough. Why are you obsessed with licking assholes, peanut butter, and Lane Kiffin?
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MR we are starting to get a clearer picture of you and your oddities. So based on your blog posts we now know a few of your favorite things:
1 – Lane Kiffin
2 – BJ’s
3 – Peanut Butter
4- Azz licking
Quite the hobbies eh MR? lol
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:46 pm
You said “sucks it”, Sniffin. The phrase “suck it” in American slang usually refers to blow jobs. But you were actually obsessing over guys licking peanut butter out of other guys asses, so I’m corrected.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:47 pm
He shoots he scores. MR owned. Lol. Ouch that one hurt didn’t it MR.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Sniffin, you were the first one to say, “sucks it”. Scroll up and see for yourself. Sucks what? What were you referring to? Do you mean sucks, as in the Raiders have sucked badly since Gruden’s team fell apart? If that’s what you were talking about, say so.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:49 pm
MR Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:46 pm
You said “sucks it”, Sniffin. The phrase “suck it” in American slang usually refers to blow jobs. But you were actually obsessing over guys licking peanut butter out of other guys asses, so I’m corrected.
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Hmm, never said anything like that, excpet “suck it”, and you are the one that turned it into you personal sexual desire, not me kid.
Where is your SOURCE regarding the term “suck it” in American slang. Post your source MR.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:49 pm
MR is known for bieng a butt pirate
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Post your source MR.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:51 pm
unknown Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:49 pm
MR is known for bieng a butt pirate
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Oh yes, we all assumed as such. However, he just addmitted it in at least 3 or 4 various posts.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Ahh MR left. Bye bye kid.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:55 pm
For those of you just joining the conversation. Let me show you where we are at:
Repost 1:
MR Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Sniffin, why are you always talking about blow jobs and peanut butter? Like in every comment?
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Hmm interesting MR. I think you just gave us a bit of information into your personal life. I NEVER mentioned BJ’s, YOU DID kid. What is on your mind? My my MR that was very revealing. Interesting. Though most of us guessed you were that type.
Repost 2:
MR Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:38 pm
One has to wonder about your obsession with 3 things, evidenced by the consistency of you bringing them up in comments, Sniffin:
1) Lane Kiffin
2) blow jobs
3) peanut butter.
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Ahh yet again another revelation into the personal life of MR. Are those your favorite things in order?
I never mentioned your option number 2, you did kid.
WOW MR. WOW.
Repost 3:
MR Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:46 pm
You said “sucks it”, Sniffin. The phrase “suck it” in American slang usually refers to blow jobs. But you were actually obsessing over guys licking peanut butter out of other guys asses, so I’m corrected.
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Hmm, never said anything like that, excpet “suck it”, and you are the one that turned it into you personal sexual desire, not me kid.
Where is your SOURCE regarding the term “suck it” in American slang. Post your source MR.
Strange isn’t it. But, it is what we expect from this kid.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:07 pm
I kind of liked that MR dude when I thought he was a NIner fan. Now that I find out he is really a fader fan I even like him more. He reminds me of fader nashun. Takes a beating and keeps on licking.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:21 pm
…..Hopefully, the fact that our next President, Obama,who just happens to be black,…a breath of fresh air-long overdue…will not only help dispel the antiquated and vile notion that blacks,( or any other minorities), are intellectually inferior to whites,(…i.e.Black vs. White QB’s..), but also create the environment for several prominent black athletes ,(in the news lately ),to finally behave in a socially responsible manner, as they no longer have the built in selp-handicapping excuse to carry the chip on their shoulder the size of Conecticut- they now get to sit at the adult table….
That being said, although I’m rooting for Jamar-.I mean Chubbustus to succeed, I am dubious because he just doesn’t have any “touch”…doesn’t show any overt leadership … clearly is out of shape, and lacks the confidence as clearly seen early on in those QB’s that have indeed made it that preceeded him.
I frankly don’t give a s**t if he is white ,black, cyborg or alien. I just want to be able to suspend my disbelief by not questioning his character, motivation or effort.Period……..
I might further suggest someone mention to Chubbustus that Joe Namath donned his white fur coat only after he proved he could swing his ba**s with Unitas, Starr and the contemporaries of his day…
Just because he conned our purpetually drooling , senile ,fearless leader out of sixty million , doesn’t justify his swagger, his fur coat…his bling… In fact, his demeanor ,akin to Wilt Chamberlain’s wild boasts of 20,000 sexual conquests,(presumeably with females…), is probobly more reflective of his underlying insecurity…
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:25 pm
MR is just mad cause he didnt get it from oakglenn today
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:25 pm
This was a good blog, and not very long ago, either. Now it’s just a bunch of teenagers talking smack to each other.
Boring.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:26 pm
New post people. Get with the program.
BTW 490 is a GREAT post.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:58 pm
The closet racists are coming out the wood works today, aren’t they?
Now we have this weirdo named Senile King, who kicks the door open, stands on a soap box, and proclaims that because America has elected a black president, that black athletes should start behaving themselves. Hmmm. What percentage of black athletes have been arrested for anything, or have even had incidents, Senile one? More than 50%? Come back when there are. Because as it stands, and as it always stood, most black athletes are professional adults. But I could understand how you would forget that when you probably spend 9 hours a day listening to unimaginative, uncharismatic white sports radio hosts blame black athletes for the lack of competitiveness in today’s pro sports (overlooking the role owners have played in it, by allowing t.v. and advertisers to influence the direction of the game…but then again, who signs the radio hosts’ checks???).
Then, just as your fellow closet bigot, Back To The ’70s, did earlier; You claimed that you…”don’t give a s’t” about who’s white, black, etc. Well then, how’d you notice the president was black, and that there were so many black athletes that now need to “behave” themselves because there’s a black president?
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:22 pm
WHY DONT YOU GO FCK YOURSELF LAME SNIFFIN , AT LEAST I DONT COME IN HERE WITH STUPID SH!T.
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
I still don’t get the “sniffin” thing. I think it’s just a lack of creativity on his part. “Lame” Kiffin would have been fine. Either come up with something clever, or just go basic. The guy just tries too hard. Like I said, his screen name is synonymous with his comments. They beg for attention, yet they’re neither moving or imaginative.
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Post #494…Grow up. The issue is indeed complicated. No question that the large % of black athletes are not in the news for killing their wives, shooting themselves with unliscensced guns , running dogfighting rings, openly supporting those who run dogfighting rings, convicted of dealing cocaine, conspiring to kill Federal Judges who imprison them, showering people with $15,000 bottles of Champagne, shooting their servant with a shotgun, then claiming it was a suicide etc…
I also agree, as does Deacon Jones, that the system is broken.Yes. The owners are at fault. The bloodless agents are also at fault….And we, the fans, deserve a share of the blame. Look… Take any underprivliged child,(regardless of race) and throw them tens of millions of dollars without having to show any responsibity or accountability to others- and you will have a monster on your hands.
I’m not a big Jim Rome fan, but hypersensitive people such as yourself openly attacked him for his condemnation of Michael Vick’s deplorable antics, Rome correctly responded that if it were Brett Favre or Payton Manning,instead of michael Vick his position would be the same.
As for making notice that our country can be proud of electing a black president, thus…after time…perhaps that “gangsta” segment of the black athletic population will act as adults too,…it should signify that we are growing and maturing as a nation…Stop calling me a biggot for simply asking THAT SEGMENT of the black athletic population to simply mature individually as a country, we are in the process of doing collectively…
What would you propose…Eubonics ?
I can see it now…The next Supreme Court Justice…Snoop Doggy Dogg….
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
nice jerry
just the facts. don’t over do it. next thing ya know there won’t be no rivalries anymore. they’ll just be playing for the money and won’t care anything about the game itself.
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:22 pm
What happened to Micheal Bush(other than the fact he is NOT and does NOT want to be a fullback). Last time we played the Chiefs he had a huge roll in that game. I am afraid the Raiders are in the process of mismanaging one of their more talented draft picks in the recent 5-7 years. Contrary to the mathematical standings of the AFC West the Oakland Raiders are OUT of the playoffs why not use this time to deveolop some of our promising prospects. Dont get me wrong i like Justin Fargas but he is not a premiere everydown back for the NFL, and with the way he runs he is only going to last maybe another season or two. Mcfadded he cant carry the load either. Running back by commitee is the wave of the future, you can see it on almost every team. Mcfadden and Bush could be a great tandem.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:51 pm
He should regret the ridiculous fake field goal. It was assinine and single handedly cost us the game. If he kicks that field goal and the other one he passed on we win the game. You have to take the points you earn in a game. Even if it’s 3 points. 19-13 us winning is much better than losing 20-13. It was a completely inexcusable rookie move. No intelligent human being would ever think of having Janikowski run a football. He’s too fat, slow, and dumb. Just like the coaching in that game. Pure and simply cable tried to get cute and it cost us a win. There is no excuse for losing to the hapless Chiefs. They’d lost 19 of the previous 20 games. Completely inexcusible.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 am
It worked everytime in practise because he was running it against the Raiders Special Teams…give me a break. Play the frekin’ game right. That was a 10 point swing early in the game which the Raiders were slowly taking control of. If we were a good team that would never have been called.
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