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Cable: No regrets about fake FG

News, notes and analysis from Tom Cable’s weekly press briefing Monday, the day after a 20-13 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs:

– Cable again stressed “full responsibility” for the fake field goal attempt which resulted in a 67-yard touchdown for the Chiefs’ Maurice Leggett, but didn’t second-guess himself.

“I don’t regret it. I don’t think you can,” Cable said. “Otherwise I don’t think you make it in the first place. So there’s no sense in doing that.”

– The Raiders coach faced the music with no sense of emotion either way, undertanding he was in the line of fire because the play didn’t work.

“It worked every time (in practice), and that’s the shame of it all,” Cable said. “But it’s like I mentioned a few weeks ago, if you take a chance like that and it works, everybody thinks you’re a genius. When it doesn’t everyone wants to chew on your butt.

“So chew.”

At the risk of biting off more than I can chew, you can’t compare the Janikowski fake to the one in which Jon Alston raced 22 yards as an upback against the Jets.

For one thing, Alston is a former high school running back, is extremely athletic and fast enough to have run down Reggie Bush while a linebacker/safety at Stanford. Janikowski is, well, Janikowski.

Another thing _ the Jets were better or equal to the Raiders, while the Chiefs most definitely were not. When the fake didn’t work against Kansas City, it provided life to the Chiefs.

– If the Janikowski fake worked every time the Raiders tried it during practice over the past two years, that doesn’t say much for whoever was playing the right edge during practice.

“Aw, man, Seabass got me again! C’mon coach, you’re killin’ us with that play!

– I realize I’m not looking at the play with a trained eye, but has anyone seen a replay that suggested that if Janikowski had caught the ball, he would have successfully run a good 17 yards (seven yards behind the line of scrimmage plust the 10 for the first down)?

Although he didn’t break out an overhead projector for purposes of demonstration, Cable apparently has.

When asked if Janikowski could have made the first down if the ball was handled cleanly, Cable said, “Yeah, because of the guy’s (Leggett’s) width, and that’s what we were counting on.”

– The recovery of veteran players such as Gerard Warren, Cornell Green and John Wade will be watched closely in practice as the Raiders must bounce back to play Thursday night in San Diego. Guard Cooper Carlisle, who left the game briefly with an ankle sprain, returned to finish the game and is expected to face the Chargers.

Players were not at the facility Monday, and will have a full day of practice Tuesday _ their usual day off. They have shorter practice Wednesday before departing for San Diego.

– Darren McFadden’s one-touch second half had a mostly to do with the Raiders inability to get off the field on defense, Cable said.

The Raiders had the ball for only 8:50 of the second half, with the Chiefs controlling it for 21:10.

“We really didn’t have the football in the second half,” Cable said. “Some of that was due to that, on the one-play, turnover series, we didn’t get any kind of rhythm in that second half where we could continue to do some of those things.”

It also could have played a hand in a young quarterback who was fell off badly in the second half in terms of accuracy. Russell was 3 of 13 for 29 yards.

“I think certainly when you’re young like that, you want the ball,” Cable said. “You want the ball. But for us, it’s when we get it, we have to do the right things with it, take care of it, move the ball, score points. So can that happen? Sure, it probably could. But you’d like to believe whenever we get it, we’ve got to take it and do the right thing.”

– The lost fumble by Justin Fargas was his first in 288 carries, dating back to last season’s game against the Chicago Bears at the Coliseum. Cable said there was no need to mention anything about the turnover to Fargas, who realized he was carrying the ball with his inside arm. (Fargas has fumbled but not lost possession).

“He carries the weight of this team on his shoulders,” Cable said. “He’s one of your bricks in your foundation. He’s the kind of guy that doesn’t say much, goes to work every day. He feels as bad as anybody today, so it’s not necessary.”

– The time of possesion issue hurt the offense in the second half, but Cable had no real quibble with the Raiders played defensively. Rob Ryan’s defense set up the only touchdown and gave up only 13 points.

“You always have to think about points allowed,” Cable said. “That’s what it is defensively. That’s how you evaluate your defense. They did a nice job that way. Obviously, you like to see them get out of a couple of those drives a little bit in terms of time of possession. But when you hold a team to that few of points, you have given your team a chance to win. That’s what you ask of them.”

– Cable on Lane Kiffin’s hiring at Tennessee: “He can move forward now. That’s what he should do and move to the next step in his career.”

– Cable said he talked to Al Davis, but didn’t reveal the substance of the conversation.

“We talked this morning. Like all of us he’s disappointed,” Cable said.“One thing he and I share is a tremendous passion for winning. Losing is about the worst thing in our lives. That’s what it
is.”

– Without anything in the standings to denote that the Raiders are officially out of the picture in terms of the playoffs, Cable is keeping that possibility open.

“We’re really not out of it. You keep having something to play for,” Cable said. “Everyone has had their issues. All four teams have had their issues in different ways, some it injuries, some of it just poor play. So we’re kind of all in this thing together and it’s just really whoever will sort it out best at the end.”

If that sounds possible, belly up to the Kool-aid bar and order a double.

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  • The Reverend Jesse L. Jackson

    Mr. Whiteboy, please be informed that you have left out enough rope to officially hang yourself. You WILL be hearing from our legal team.

  • MR

    ’70s, enough posting as Jessie Jackson. YOU said Plunkett isn’t Chicano. YOU are yet to provide a source. Why would you just make up Plunkett’s ethnicity? Is that your source for every topic in here? Your imagination?

  • Love Buzz

    Look who just came out of the closet: MR!! Good to see you are OK with your sexuality MR. I was wondering who was throwing all the racist blasts and getting everyone to argue with each other. Good old MR!

  • dikembesaysno

    70s,

    That’s not my concern. I don’t appreciate the ego. Rather than name calling when explaining something, just leave it at the explanation. We are all Raiders fans in here, except for a few obviously(Chargerd Up, etc.).

  • http://none Back to the 70′s

    I met Jim Plunkett in Yosemite in 1989. He didn’t claim to be Mexican American like Flores so often has. I was always under the impression he was American Indian. If I am wrong so be it. But, like I said he didn’t mention he was hispanic like Flores does so often. Not that it matters. I just thought he would be more proud of it and brought it up like Flores has.

  • MR

    70s, now you’re going to give me a guilt trip for calling you on your b.s.? You guys were arguing when I came in. Talking about black quarterbacks being dumb and what not. I pointed out Plunkett being Chicano, and you said he isn’t. We’re still waiting on your source. I don’t think you use sources for anything. You just talk out of your ass and make stuff up, then when you’re called on it you start these pissy ass guilt trips like someone is picking a fight with you.

  • MR

    So that’s your source, ’70s? You and Plunkett scaled Half Dome together and he never once actually told you he was Chicano? You make your proclamation that he’s not Chicano on the sole fact that he doesn’t walk around wearing a pancho and sombrero? You’re a first class moron.

  • Dr. Bertrand Freneshande

    Coming out in front of the entire Raider nation MR. How does that make you feel?

  • http://none Back to the 70′s

    Ego = I sit in the second Row. I never said it wasn’t on top of Mount Davis did I? I guess you just assumed something.

  • dikembesaysno

    When you call some one an idiot after explaining something what I am supposed to assume? Your humble?

  • http://none Back to the 70′s

    We actually were on a mule pack for 7 days together. I worked as a guide. He was really cool. And no, I don’t let race be a factor on what makes the man. My dad was a huge Plunkett fan cause he always told me he was of Indian Decent like I am. That’s all. We didn’t talk race we talked football. Thanks

  • MR

    You sit in the second row, ’70s? Why should anyone believe you? You just said Plunkett wasn’t Chicano, like you knew what you were talking about, and you were dead wrong. Now you want us to believe you sit in the 2rd row? You probably don’t even go to games. You’re a proven liar, so why should anyone believe you?

  • KuKluxKlan aka KKK

    Our White Brother in Arms, Whiteboy, shall be freed from slander that the racist, The Reverend Jesse L. Jackson, spews from his DSL’s, mighty big ones indeed.
    Whiteboy QB’s rule, African Blackboys are only good for toting the rock and going long.

  • MR

    Oh, so now you have two sources,

    1) Plunkett never actually told you he was Chicano…

    2) Your dad said so.

    Well, your dad’s a moron who doesn’t know what he’s talking about, either.

  • http://none Back to the 70′s

    Whatever Dikembe. Keep watching football and you will see offenses come and go and defense of schemes come and go. It’s part of it.

  • BlackHoleBishop

    dikembesaysno Says:
    December 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 am
    70s, no doubt you are you’re biggest fan.

    Another reason to suspect that he is BHP.

  • MR

    And, back to the ’70s, if you don’t believe race is a factor, then why did you try to make a case that Plunkett wasn’t Chicano? You reveal yourself to be more full of sh*t with each comment. Just quit digging your hole, dude.

  • MR

    Back to the 70s,

    How are we to know at this point that you’re not lying about basically everything? Why should anyone believe anything you say at this point?

  • dikembesaysno

    70s,

    Whatever? A typical response from someone who has been caught in their own BS.

  • MR

    You went to Yosemite with Plunkett…You’re native American…sure. What are you going to make up next, moron?

  • http://none Back to the 70′s

    Thanks Mr. my dad is dead. I wil make sure to go to his grave and tell him he is a liar. That he told all four of his sons a lie. And that because my dad was such a liar I never really ever cared to check his ethnic background. I was just told something and believed as a kid. Wow. You are obviously perfect. I was just stating what I believed and I guess I have been proven wrong. I don’t think Wikepedia ever got anything wrong either. Whatever. I really don’t care if I sit in the second row or the last row as long as I am at the games.

  • MR

    Back to the ’70s doesn’t believe Snoop Dogg is black, because Snoop never actually said so.

  • BlackHoleBishop

    Back to the 70′s Says:
    December 2nd, 2008 at 11:24 am
    I met Jim Plunkett in Yosemite in 1989. He didn’t claim to be Mexican American like Flores so often has. I was always under the impression he was American Indian. If I am wrong so be it. But, like I said he didn’t mention he was hispanic like Flores does so often. Not that it matters. I just thought he would be more proud of it and brought it up like Flores has.

    Another fine example of name dropping Namaste….err…I mean BHP!

  • MR

    Back to the ’70s, this isn’t about your dad. It’s about you making up Plunkett’s ethnicity, probably because you’re ashamed to face that fact that one of the greatest quarterbacks in Raider history is of MEXICAN descent. Then, after you’re proven wrong, you try to say that race isn’t a factor to you. Oh, sure, which is why you chimed into begin with by claiming Plunkett was not Chicano. Nice try, idiot.

    This isn’t about your dad, ’70s. It’s about you being entirely full of crap, and nothing else. Don’t try and spin this, you moron.

  • The Raider Nation

    we believe you are gay MR because you have told us so, a million times. We get it already.

  • Spider

    I can vouch that Plunkett is Hispanic and not Native American. I once asked him if he could score some peyote for me. He didn’t have a clue as to what I was talking about.

  • MR

    Probably because Plunkett doesn’t use drugs, Spider. He’s a beer drinker. He’s actually a conventional, middle American type of guy. But he is in fact Chicano, no matter how ashamed of it people like Back to the ’70s are.

  • http://none Back to the 70′s

    I just asked 5 people in my office and they all said Native American Indian. Wow. I really don’t think a chance meeting with Plunkett is name droping. And I really don’t care. Keep attacking me. It feels good.

  • MR

    Oh, Back To The ’70s has a new source, everyone.

    All of his imaginary friends in his imaginary office just concurred with him that Plunkett is not Chicano.

  • MR

    Back To The ’70s,

    I thought race doesn’t matter to you? So, why are you bugging your co workers now about Plunkett’s ethnicity? You’re beyond race, remember?

  • raiderraider

    Are you going to pull out your tomahawk and do a warcry dance around your office now, Back to the 70′s aka Native American Indian?

  • MR

    Back To The ’70s, you might be the biggest moron I’ve ever met in here, and believe me, there are a lot. But you’re contending for the championship right now.

    “I just asked 5 people in my office”.

    LOL.

  • Spider

    Boy! You fader girlz are in between a rock and a hardplace. If you lose on Thursday Charged Up is going to ride your pansy a$$e$ all week long. If you win you all but hand the division to the Broncos. Can’t win for losing cany you lozerz?

  • http://none Back to the 70′s

    Mr. Thanks coming from you I will take that as a compliment.

  • MR

    We’re losing out for the draft now, Spider. Davis just wanted to beat Denver. Denver’s always a huge game we get pumped up for. Now that we’re out of playoff contention, we’re playing for the draft. The Raiders don’t use failed seasons to build momentum for the following year. They go for the high draft pick.

  • http://none Back to the 70′s

    Next you guys are going to tell me he doesn’t belong in the HOF?

  • MR

    Notice how nobody in here is really even talking about beating San Diego. No game breakdowns, or anything, and this game is 48 hrs. away. Nada. We’re talking draft now, homie.

  • MR

    ’70s, what are you talking about? Just shut up before you get caught in another lie.

  • Spider

    Yo quieros Jim Plunkett muchos. El es un fader muy bueno, solemente.

  • http://none Back to the 70′s

    A lie. I didn’t lie once on here. I said I was told by my dad that he was of Native American Decent.

  • http://PROFOOTBALLTALK.COM DIRT LOT FOOTBALL

    SPIDER- SIX LEG’S AND NO PLACE TO GO, SOMEBODY PUT A FOOT ON TIHS GUY…

  • http://none Back to the 70′s

    I am guilty of not checking my dad’s statement. And for not asking Plunkett himself. Boy, I better go and run. Whatever.

  • MR

    They weren’t “faders” when Plunkett was here, homie. Those were the Ron Wolf days, back when we had a team every year.

  • Spider

    MR Says:
    December 2nd, 2008 at 11:56 am
    We’re losing out for the draft now, Spider. Davis just wanted to beat Denver. Denver’s always a huge game we get pumped up for. Now that we’re out of playoff contention, we’re playing for the draft. The Raiders don’t use failed seasons to build momentum for the following year. They go for the high draft pick.

    What’s this we stuff pale face? I thought you were a Niner fan?

  • raiderraider

    Guilt by assocation…70′s

  • MR

    No, ’70s, you’re guilty of lying about his ethnicity. You claimed he wasn’t Chicano. Again, you STATED that he was NOT Chicano. I asked you for a source, and here’s what we got. Ladies and Gentlemen, please hold all laughter until all of the sources have been named.

    1) He never told you he was (you never asked).

    2) Your father said so

    3) Your imaginary co workers said so in your imaginary office.

    Then, when that failed, you went to the typical “Well, race shouldn’t matter anyway”, card. Oh…of course it doesn’t matter, once you’ve been proven wrong in a discussion on race.

    Have a good day, liar.

  • Spider

    MR Says:
    December 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 pm
    They weren’t “faders” when Plunkett was here, homie. Those were the Ron Wolf days, back when we had a team every year.

    I will have to give you that. But I thought you were a Niner fan?

  • http://none Back to the 70′s

    I was just proud to think he was an indian american. I am having a good day pulling your strings MR. I think you are incredible arguer and I love to see you in action.

  • MR

    Did I ever say I was a 49er fan? Or, are you simply not smart enough to tell when people’s screen names have been jacked?

  • MR

    Pull my strings? Ha. That’s cute.

    No, here’s what happened, Back To The ’70s.

    You lied,

    I proved you wrong,

    You’re owned.

    End of story.

    No strings attached.