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		<title>By: Full Version Game Downloads</title>
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		<title>By: raiderhomey</title>
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		<dc:creator>raiderhomey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Kell, here&#039;s your answer. Al Davis does&#039;nt give a $hit about penalties. &quot;Just Win Baby&quot; worked very well when we had 6 or 8 probowlers on the roster, that just ain&#039;t no mo. The reason is simple, pi$$-poor conditioning, drafting dumb fast players, instead of football players, and not working their a$$es off in practice. The result is the players don&#039;t respect the coaches, the coaches no that Al &quot;muther hens&quot; the players, and we the fans suffer thinking that we are still fielding a competitive, well coached team, and the exact opposite is true. Until somebody with &quot;old&quot; Raider blood is brought in to right the ship, we will continue to be rudderless on the field. A shing example of that just occurred these last two weeks, we go into Denver reeling, a heavy underdog, and kick their a$$es up and down the field all day. even tho we did&#039;nt sack Cutler once, they were in his face, throwin his sorry a$$ to the turf repeatedly, and the result was a lopsided victory. The very next week at home against a weak and poorly coached Chief team, jamarcus and co. went back to their pop-warner style of play, and we loose an ugly game albeit the freakin fake field goal. My point here is, the Raiders have no concept on momentum, continuity, disapline, or knowledge of what they are supposed to represent when they put on that storied uniform. Al got it right for a long, long time, but your simply cannot micro-manage a billion dollar entity like it is still a 50 thosand dollar pop-sicle stand. Until he brings back either Madden, Flores, Tim Brown, Gannon and the likes, we will continue to be mediocre at best, and the way we&#039;ve been lately at worst. Now how&#039;s that for some astute type $hit ther kell-ster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Kell, here&#8217;s your answer. Al Davis does&#8217;nt give a $hit about penalties. &#8220;Just Win Baby&#8221; worked very well when we had 6 or 8 probowlers on the roster, that just ain&#8217;t no mo. The reason is simple, pi$$-poor conditioning, drafting dumb fast players, instead of football players, and not working their a$$es off in practice. The result is the players don&#8217;t respect the coaches, the coaches no that Al &#8220;muther hens&#8221; the players, and we the fans suffer thinking that we are still fielding a competitive, well coached team, and the exact opposite is true. Until somebody with &#8220;old&#8221; Raider blood is brought in to right the ship, we will continue to be rudderless on the field. A shing example of that just occurred these last two weeks, we go into Denver reeling, a heavy underdog, and kick their a$$es up and down the field all day. even tho we did&#8217;nt sack Cutler once, they were in his face, throwin his sorry a$$ to the turf repeatedly, and the result was a lopsided victory. The very next week at home against a weak and poorly coached Chief team, jamarcus and co. went back to their pop-warner style of play, and we loose an ugly game albeit the freakin fake field goal. My point here is, the Raiders have no concept on momentum, continuity, disapline, or knowledge of what they are supposed to represent when they put on that storied uniform. Al got it right for a long, long time, but your simply cannot micro-manage a billion dollar entity like it is still a 50 thosand dollar pop-sicle stand. Until he brings back either Madden, Flores, Tim Brown, Gannon and the likes, we will continue to be mediocre at best, and the way we&#8217;ve been lately at worst. Now how&#8217;s that for some astute type $hit ther kell-ster.</p>
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		<title>By: Roch Romanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roch Romanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the penalty issue, I believe its a matter of history and created expectation, for too long the Raiders have suffered from mental lapses, and subsequent penalties, that now the zebras expect it, watch for it, and call it.

Many on the penalties called, some may call questionable, and I point to the Howard penalties in Denver, however the Raiders as a franchise have set the tone, so I ask who do you blame. But that does not account for the many mental mistakes, and bad conditioning calls that the Raiders take.

I really have to question the conditioning of the team in general. But is that a function of the environment? 6 losing seasons, makes it difficult to ask players for the highest level of commitment, but millions of $$ definitely makes a strong arguement.

Fact is this team has talent, but there&#039;s sooo much baggage that they make it harder than it needs to be. I can&#039;t help but get a chuckle out of Marty Schottenhiemers quote &quot;Keep it close and let the Raiders beat themselves&quot; sometimes I can&#039;t help but think that no truer words have ever been spoken.

But we have potential and young talent that should step in to leadership roles, but they need to gut-check themselves, and ask if they are willing to lead by example, or simply provide soundbytes for the media. And those players know who they are. The best part of adversity is that it allows the opportunity to play through it.

But the many talented players on this team need to decide how they want their careers marked... as the worst stretch in NFL franchise history (72 losses over 6 seasons or something crazy like that?) Or those that rose from the ashes to greatness...or at least respectability.

The ATL game was a disturbing sign, and even worse was the follow up in Denver which simply proved that this team can decide to be great, I don&#039;t know which is worse, being bad, or being bad by choice...

With all my heart, with Silver and Black in my veins, and only because I can&#039;t be on the field, I hope our players, our Raiders, begin to decide to be a good football team, and its obvious is that they are the ones that can choose...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the penalty issue, I believe its a matter of history and created expectation, for too long the Raiders have suffered from mental lapses, and subsequent penalties, that now the zebras expect it, watch for it, and call it.</p>
<p>Many on the penalties called, some may call questionable, and I point to the Howard penalties in Denver, however the Raiders as a franchise have set the tone, so I ask who do you blame. But that does not account for the many mental mistakes, and bad conditioning calls that the Raiders take.</p>
<p>I really have to question the conditioning of the team in general. But is that a function of the environment? 6 losing seasons, makes it difficult to ask players for the highest level of commitment, but millions of $$ definitely makes a strong arguement.</p>
<p>Fact is this team has talent, but there&#8217;s sooo much baggage that they make it harder than it needs to be. I can&#8217;t help but get a chuckle out of Marty Schottenhiemers quote &#8220;Keep it close and let the Raiders beat themselves&#8221; sometimes I can&#8217;t help but think that no truer words have ever been spoken.</p>
<p>But we have potential and young talent that should step in to leadership roles, but they need to gut-check themselves, and ask if they are willing to lead by example, or simply provide soundbytes for the media. And those players know who they are. The best part of adversity is that it allows the opportunity to play through it.</p>
<p>But the many talented players on this team need to decide how they want their careers marked&#8230; as the worst stretch in NFL franchise history (72 losses over 6 seasons or something crazy like that?) Or those that rose from the ashes to greatness&#8230;or at least respectability.</p>
<p>The ATL game was a disturbing sign, and even worse was the follow up in Denver which simply proved that this team can decide to be great, I don&#8217;t know which is worse, being bad, or being bad by choice&#8230;</p>
<p>With all my heart, with Silver and Black in my veins, and only because I can&#8217;t be on the field, I hope our players, our Raiders, begin to decide to be a good football team, and its obvious is that they are the ones that can choose&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dikembesaysno</title>
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		<dc:creator>dikembesaysno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S&amp;B,

How unrealistic should it be for an athlete to make the right decision as a human being?  That kind of logic perpetuates the concept that they are above the law and adhere to their own rules.  I really don&#039;t know the details of the Sanders situation, but thought I would give my two cents on that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S&amp;B,</p>
<p>How unrealistic should it be for an athlete to make the right decision as a human being?  That kind of logic perpetuates the concept that they are above the law and adhere to their own rules.  I really don&#8217;t know the details of the Sanders situation, but thought I would give my two cents on that point.</p>
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		<title>By: RaiderRockstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaiderRockstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NEW POST !!!</description>
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		<title>By: Skloomsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skloomsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#  MR (Now worried about Brien) Says:
December 4th, 2008 at 11:40 am

Clem Daniels and Todd Christensen…LOL. Guess Skloomsh doesn’t have any examples from THIS millennium.
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The point is/was that having players change positions isn&#039;t necessarily a bad idea. I suppose it depends how things work out in the end. As far as examples from THIS millennium, there&#039;ve been a few, some more successful than others, but I don&#039;t really feel like playing that game with you. Look them up for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#  MR (Now worried about Brien) Says:<br />
December 4th, 2008 at 11:40 am</p>
<p>Clem Daniels and Todd Christensen…LOL. Guess Skloomsh doesn’t have any examples from THIS millennium.<br />
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<p>The point is/was that having players change positions isn&#8217;t necessarily a bad idea. I suppose it depends how things work out in the end. As far as examples from THIS millennium, there&#8217;ve been a few, some more successful than others, but I don&#8217;t really feel like playing that game with you. Look them up for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: S&#38;B - Nation Collective</title>
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		<dc:creator>S&#38;B - Nation Collective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, even if Crabtree knew about the cocaine dealer, are you expecting him to turn in his teammate to the authorities.  In the middle of a potential championship season.  Little unrealistic if u ask me.

Maybe he requests a transfer to another house or they kick the drug dealing teammate out.

But you are assuming that Crabtree knew about everything that was happening.  I would need more information.

Crabtree will be fine and I am sure that everyone has been in uncomfortable situations (maybe not as extreme as cocaine dealing) where one decision or just plain luck prevented serious personal trouble</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, even if Crabtree knew about the cocaine dealer, are you expecting him to turn in his teammate to the authorities.  In the middle of a potential championship season.  Little unrealistic if u ask me.</p>
<p>Maybe he requests a transfer to another house or they kick the drug dealing teammate out.</p>
<p>But you are assuming that Crabtree knew about everything that was happening.  I would need more information.</p>
<p>Crabtree will be fine and I am sure that everyone has been in uncomfortable situations (maybe not as extreme as cocaine dealing) where one decision or just plain luck prevented serious personal trouble</p>
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		<title>By: dikembesaysno</title>
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		<dc:creator>dikembesaysno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any reason we don&#039;t get JLH involved in the passing game more?  I realize he&#039;s not the most cerebral guy, but he should be able to separate from corners.

Charley,

Fair enough...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any reason we don&#8217;t get JLH involved in the passing game more?  I realize he&#8217;s not the most cerebral guy, but he should be able to separate from corners.</p>
<p>Charley,</p>
<p>Fair enough&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: raiderhomey</title>
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		<dc:creator>raiderhomey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another thing while I&#039;m at it, I realize that maybe, just maybe Jamarcus and Huff just might pan out after all, but I much rather would have been happier then, and much more now had we drafted Cutler and calvin Johnson, i know, just sayin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another thing while I&#8217;m at it, I realize that maybe, just maybe Jamarcus and Huff just might pan out after all, but I much rather would have been happier then, and much more now had we drafted Cutler and calvin Johnson, i know, just sayin.</p>
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		<title>By: Brien (He is a House Bro)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brien (He is a House Bro)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oreo kookie kell, you havent been working in a while. lol   Loser</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oreo kookie kell, you havent been working in a while. lol   Loser</p>
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